Replies: 37 Unseemly Comments
Oops, a couple of last minute questions:
Phil Crosby asks what the worst professional production of a musical I've seen is: Cyrano, the Dutch one. Horrifying. Close second: Martin Guerre.
Ron Pulliam asks what my 10 dessert island CDs would be. We've done that a while back, so use our handy-dandy Unseemly Search box and put in "dessert island" and you should find all our dear readers lists, including mine own.
Posted by bk @ 04/11/2002 10:09 AM PST
I would love to see or hear the musical of Lolita, but of course that's already been done. (Would one of our experts remind me who wrote it, because I cannot recall...?)
I always thought that Lord of the Flies would be an interesting musical. Perhaps by Sondheim? But the casting of the children would be hard.
Also, I think that the play A Thousand Clowns would be a good musical if it hasn't been musicalized already.
Posted by Lolita @ 04/11/2002 10:12 AM PST
I'll answer my own question-
It's enjoyable to answer ones own questions.
Book-The Great Gatsby(not the opera-the musical)Kander and Ebb
Play-Thieves Carnival by Jean Anouilh-Sondheim and Sondheim
Movie-One,Two,Three-Billy Wilder"s wonderfully funny farce-Jerry Herman
Posted by Arnold M. Brockman @ 04/11/2002 10:30 AM PST
I'm hoping one day to see "Benjamin Kritzer--the musical" by Earnest and Meltz.
BK, you posted a link once to the prologue of you novel, so everyone knows about your fondness for rolling down stairs.
Posted by Laura @ 04/11/2002 10:39 AM PST
Lolita, "Lolita, My Love" was written by John Barry (music) and Alan Jay Lerner (book & lyrics). There's a soundboard recording available, plus, didn't I read some time ago that Yeko or someone like him is doing a studio version?
Posted by JMK @ 04/11/2002 10:59 AM PST
Ooooh, good topic. How about "Blue Velvet: the Musical". We could replace Dennis Hopper with a singing, dancing Christopher Walken.
I think the big chorus numbers could include: "Yes, that's a human ear alright" and "There's a Naken Man in my Closet". Maybe Bruce could write this one for us?
Posted by Mattso @ 04/11/2002 11:19 AM PST
I've always thought it would be interesting to see a Woody Allen movie "musicalized" (and No, I don't consider his "musical" film to be enough to put my notion to rest).
My choices for a musical of a Woody Allen film:
Either "Manhattan" or "Hannah and Her Sisters."
For "Manhattan," my only choice of composer is Sondheim.
For "Hannah...", it's wide open, although I'd want some really good songs. Maury Yeston springs to mind....I love "Nine" and I'm fond of "Titanic" ... but I'm open to suggestions.
Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 04/11/2002 11:24 AM PST
Note to Bruce: Thanks for alerting me to the search button and the previous topic of discussion.
But alas, alack, alarum....
There's no listings for "desert island CDs" -- only "desert island" movies.
If there have been listings of CDs, could someone share different search parameters with me?
Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 04/11/2002 11:31 AM PST
There is an interview with Nabokov which was republished in one of his books--can't recall which one right now. The Interviewer asks, somewhat disdainfully, "How do you feel about the fact that a--[holding his nose, evidently] musical is being made of 'Lolita'?"
To which V.N. replied quite politely, "It is in the very best of hands. I admire the work of Alan J. Lerner and think him quite capable of pulling it off."
By the way, I would like to point out that Bruce--paragon of humility that he is--did not quote my full description of him, namely "a record producer of legendary status."
Posted by William F. Orr @ 04/11/2002 11:43 AM PST
Apropros of nothing in particular, I recently picked up a CD by Elaine Paige because it had her singing two songs from "Sunset Boulevard."
I have seen various Lloyd-Webber specials on TV in which assorted divas who have sung the roles he has written have warbled through the "Sunset Boulevard" songs without much range and with much stretching for notes -- low and high -- with varying degrees of mediocrity.
Then, on an A&E Biography on Elaine Paige, my eyes were finally opened to what a "singer" could do in the role. I don't pretend the show would be any better with her in it, but it would certainly be sung to a fare-thee-well. Next to her, Glenn Close's seemingly cross-eyed Norma is a mediocrity.
Okay...flame me!
Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 04/11/2002 12:47 PM PST
"Lady For a Day"/"Pocketful of Miracles" should most definitely be turned into a musical. A couple of friends had such an idea many years ago but could not get the rights from Damon Runyan's estate. My first suggestion for composers would be them. Years later (and yet still years ago) Jerry Herman was approached with it, but he declined. He would be perfect for the job; and it's such a great idea. It has been announced several times that the musical would be made and tailored for Elaine Stritch or Angela Lansbury as Apple Annie. The character parts alone would be a dream to cast.
Posted by Kerry @ 04/11/2002 01:48 PM PST
Ron, I could have sworn we did a desert island discs, but maybe we called it something else. I remember several of the responses. Oh, well. Some of mine would be Bill Evans' Conversations With Myself, some performance of Rachmaninov's Second Symphony, A Little Night Music (OCR), Best Years of Our Lives score CD, Claus Ogermann's Gate of Dreams, a Mancini compilation CD (which would have to include the two recorded tracks from The Great Imposter and the one from Soldier In The Rain, and it of course would have his greatest hits), Li'l Abner (OCR), a Bacharach compilation, The Accidental Tourist (John Williams - not his greatest, but one I listen to over and over), and how can I stop at ten?
Posted by bk @ 04/11/2002 01:50 PM PST
I also think a really good musical could be done of "Philadelphia Story," and "High Society" wasn't it. I'm not sure who should do music and lyrics. Any suggestions?
Posted by Kerry @ 04/11/2002 02:01 PM PST
To Bruce: Please accept my apologies for answering questions. I was confused by the message board; and I will try to not do it again. What about Haines boxers--Hanes or not Hanes?
Antiflame to Ron Pulliam: The industrial-show, corporate-musical Sunset Blvd. was never good on Broadway. It was awful with the egregiously miscast Glenn Close, who hurt one's ears while wearing kabuki-style pancake batter-- er, makeup and those horrible, visible face microphones. It was better with Betty Buckley, who at least sang most of the score and hid her microphones better. It was best, such as it was, with Elaine Paige, in her Broadway debut, looking so much like Gloria Swanson it would have been frightening had it not been hilarious to watch her climb the stairs. Paige was the only one to sing the entire role, without self-indulgent and unmusical ad-libbing.
Posted by freedunit @ 04/11/2002 03:06 PM PST
I thought the desert island CD list came about in an interview with BK (der Brucer, but not Woody White's der Brucer) on another unnamed website.
Posted by Kerry @ 04/11/2002 03:30 PM PST
The desert(ed) island lists are under the 2/26/02 archive. Evidently, we have not been consistent, and called that one destertED island (which is, after all correct), rather than desert, or even dessert. I found the correct archive by searching for one of the rarer CDs on my list. The search utility performed wonderfully, I would just like to say. And how the HELL are you people bolding and italicizing your comments? What I wouldn't give for some bold italics right about now! :)
Posted by JMK @ 04/11/2002 04:48 PM PST
Ooops--so I can't spell. Deserted island, yes, desterted island, no.
Posted by JMK @ 04/11/2002 04:49 PM PST
JMK,
Here is the little secret. You must use HTML (HyperText Markup Language), which is the code that all web pages are written in. There are all sorts of guides to it to be found on the Internet, but here are the basics you requested:
Type "This is in italics."
It will appear on the screen as "This is in italics."
Type "This is in bold."
It will appear on the screen as "This is in bold."
Type "This is in bold and italics."
It will appear on the screen as "This is in bold and italics."
The B and I can be either upper case or lower case. Be sure to type the part with the slash at the end, or everyone else's posts will end up in your bold and/or italics.
Now don't you wonder how I got it to put the on the screen rather than just doing bold and italics? Maaagic.
Somehow I haven't been able to make work for underline on this site. A mystery only Mr. Mark Bakalor can explain--once he finds time out from bitch slapping BK.
Posted by William F. Orr @ 04/11/2002 05:27 PM PST
I was wondering the same thing about the bold and italics. How do you get them? The Bold and Italics? Wasn't that a primetime soap opera with Nolan Miller as the costume designer? Or was it a doo-wop group out of Philadelphia? Or, was it a song by Ernest and Meltz?
Posted by kerry @ 04/11/2002 05:28 PM PST
Oh, Bill, you mad, impetuous fool you--I believe in attempting to show me the secrets of HTML, you have inadvertently simply ended up with the same thing twice (or at least so it appears on my computer screen). However, my wife is an HTML-maven (yes, there are such things), so I will ask her when she returns and soon I, too, will be bold and Italian--er, italicized.
Posted by JMK @ 04/11/2002 05:48 PM PST
To Ron Pulliam:
The most likey candidate for a Woody Allen movie being made into a musical is The Purple Rose of Cairo. I have heard talk of it for the last number of years. For the life I cannot remember who is associated with it, but its a well known composer/lyricist duo. Along the lines of Hamlisch/Carnelia, Coleman/Zippel (?),
Aherns/Flaherty. (Kander/Ebb are not doing that I know)
STOP THE PRESSES!!!!!
I just remembered Hamlisch and Carnelia are prepping a musical version of Bullets over Broadway and Woody Allen wring the libretto.
Posted by Michael Shayne @ 04/11/2002 06:04 PM PST
Not only is Woody Allen wring the libretto, but he is WRITING it as well.
Posted by Michael Shayne @ 04/11/2002 06:05 PM PST
If they do a studio cast of Lolita I will stand on my hands and do the Hula. Wait! Isn't that a Earnest and Meltz song?? Standing On My Hands and Doing the Hula For You?
I think that there's also an LP out there somewhere but I'll stand on my hands and do the hula if I can get my hands on it.
Posted by Lolita @ 04/11/2002 06:54 PM PST
If they do a studio cast of Lolita I will stand on my hands and do the Hula. Wait! Isn't that a Earnest and Meltz song?? Standing On My Hands and Doing the Hula For You?
I think that there's also an LP out there somewhere but I'll stand on my hands and do the hula if I can get my hands on it.
Posted by Lolita @ 04/11/2002 06:54 PM PST
Oops ;)
Posted by Lolita @ 04/11/2002 06:55 PM PST
1. Going, going gone
2. The same old song
3. Saturday
4. In the broken promise land of 15
5. Dante, Petrarch and Poe
6. Sur les quais
7. Charlotte's letter
8. Farewell, little dream
9. At the bed-d-by motel
10. Tell me, tell me
11. Buckin' for Beardsley
12. Beardsley school for girls 13. March out of my life
14. All you can do is tell me you love me
15. How far is it to the next town?
16. Lolita
This can be found on Blue Pear Records 1009. The recording is from a sound system tape and Denise Nickerson played Lolita at this point in the show
Posted by Michael Shayne @ 04/11/2002 07:39 PM PST
I'm suddenly feeling very bold. Oooh, so cool. Oy, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Anyway, Lolita, the soundboard recording is an LP, on Blue Pear Records. It turns up on eBay quite frequently. Or, if you happen to be an Angelino, check out A-1 Record Finders on Melrose. He has a ton of rare old cast albums.
Posted by JMK @ 04/11/2002 07:44 PM PST
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!
I am going to bitch slap Mr. Mark Bakalor!
I type the "code for the code" and press Preview. My previes shows up correctly. But when I push Post, it turns right back into bold and italics.
I'm giving it one more try:
<B>Does this show the code?</B> (Posting it is the only way for me to tell.) What I hope to see here is "less than sign-B-greater than sign".
Anyway, JMK, glad to see your wife showed you.
Posted by William F. Orr @ 04/11/2002 08:40 PM PST
Thanks again to Michael for being the font of knowledge!
"Bullets over Broadway" would make a wonderful musical, just so long as one of the score's best songs turns out to be "Don't Speak!"
And Marvin Hamlisch is way overdue for a big hit!
Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 04/11/2002 09:58 PM PST
Note to William Orr: I notice that BK has not taken up our generous offers to participate in his benefit show.
Posted by Laura @ 04/12/2002 12:11 AM PST
If we're going to have three wells, might I suggest the third well be Dawn? That way, Orson and H. G. can nosh on coconut cream pies. ("I will eat no pie before it's time!)
Some time ago, I thought it would be wonderful if Stephen Sondheim were to adapt William Goldman's The Silent Gondoliers, but then I realized it would have been best if he's written it sometime between Pacific Overtures and Sweeney Todd, simply because his music keeps changing (it keeps melting before our eyes).
Posted by S. Woody White @ 04/12/2002 02:20 AM PST
Laura,
I'm sure Bruce is just trying to figure out whom to fire so that he can put us all in it. I'd wouldn't want Sally Kellerman to be jealous of my show business career, simply because she is unable to give a rather dry lecture on how to calculate interest and annuities.
And speaking of Nancy Sinatra--were we speaking of Nancy Sinatra?--speaking of Nancy Sinatra, has anyone caught her early television special that they occasionally show on American Movie Classics? It was evidently made before her boots were made for walking and was sponsored by Royal Crown Cola. In between her other numbers, at every available opportunity, she sings the Royal Crown Jingle.
Now, at the mention of her name, Joe and I always go into our rendition of "It's a mad, mad, mad, mad Cola!"
Posted by William F. Orr @ 04/12/2002 03:58 AM PST
Yes, it's the Next Morning, but I have found an online record dealer who sells Lolita My Love and I am just Oh So Excited. Also, on the Cast Recording FAQ (a wonderful site that I discovered last night...) it is reported that the show is being recorded by Original Cast Records, but there is no date listed. Thanks for the songlist, though, Michael!
http://www.castalbums.org/newrelease.html)
Posted by Lolita @ 04/12/2002 07:16 AM PST
I notice that Hairspray is mentioned on that page. Does anyone know anything about the upcoming version of Hairspray?
I bet John Waters is tickled pink, which is really an interesting color to be tickled.
Posted by Mattso @ 04/12/2002 07:41 AM PST
Regarding Hairspray:
Rehearsals begin on April 15, and the off-bway tryout will be in Seattle (a run of 3.5 weeks). After that, it moved into the Neil Simon Theater in later june, with an August opening. In the cast are Harvey Fierstein, Marissa Winokur, Kerry Butler, Laura Bell Bundy, etc. Marc Shaiman has written the music, and Marc and Scott Wittman have written the lyrics. They have a website at http://www.hairsprayonbroadway.com .. Incindently... I have heard a good portion of the songs from a demo and they are "light" but very fun.. and in my opinion, Marc has done a great job in creating 60s tuners.
Trivia for those who care, also in the cast is Joel Vig, which means that Laura Bell Bundy and Joel will be sharing a stage once again after 10 years (They were in RUTHLESS!)
Posted by Craig @ 04/12/2002 08:04 AM PST
Apropos to Mattso's comment about John Waters:
Would that be Flaming(o) Pink?
: )
Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 04/12/2002 08:10 AM PST
Craig, Thanks for the info. I agree, the songs aren't bad. I am glad to hear more songs about Baltimore.
Ron, yes Flaming(o) pink indeed. Actually we should follow this with a musical of Pink Flamingos. I ould love to write the big Singing Sphincter number. (grin)
Posted by Mattso @ 04/12/2002 08:17 AM PST