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I must post what I remember as one of the funniest movie comedies-OPERATION MAD BALL starring Jack Lemmon,Ernie Kovacs and Nickey Rooney, It has never been released in any video format. Does anyone remember this comic gem??
Posted by Arnold M. Brockman @ 04/20/2002 10:00 AM PST
Arnold M. Brockman, get you're pants back to the unseemly comment box and post a response to the topic of discussion!
The first musical that I ever experienced was Oliver. When I was two and in the Cayman Islands with my parental and grandparental units, I became ill. They rushed to the video store and the only thing that looked remotely fit for me was Oliver. How sorry they became. I watched the tape over and over, twenty thousand times a day, for the entire vacation.
However, the first musical that I saw on stage was Into the Woods, which I saw while it was at the Kennedy Center in Washington DC. I was very young (I don't remember how old I was exactly) and don't remember anything except the Witch's entrance of Act Two and the Baker and Cinderella's Prince rolling around on the stage (which I found very risque). Also, I was allowed to buy one of those big programs with all of the production photos and tidbits (What are those called, officially?), which I poured over for years and years and years, although it disappeared recently.
The first musical I remember seeing was the tour of Hello Dolly with Carol Channing and Florence Lacy and a man whose name escapes me. The experience was heightened indeed by a kind usher who allowed my grandparental units and I to sit in the SECOND ROW CENTER. This thrilled me beyond belief because I knew Carol Channing from Thoroughly Modern Millie and seeing her in the flesh was just beyond beyond. ANYWAY, that was lovely.
What am I, Rob Pulliam all of the sudden?
;)
Posted by Lolita @ 04/20/2002 11:08 AM PST
Rob Pulliam?
Rob?
"Ohhh, Robbbbb!
"Now, Laura...don't get upset sweetheart!"
I look forward to "Rob's" posts. Maybe we're related.
The first "theatrical" musical I ever saw -- honestly -- was "Stop the World! I Want to Get Off!"
It was extremely well done by the Greenville Little Theater (Joanne Woodward's last amateur performance was there). Next was "Brigadoon" and, again, extremely well done.
How would I have known? Because by that time, I was a major film musical fan, having seen most of the wonderful musicals of the 30s and 40s on Sunday afternoon TV.
The first musical I was ever in was "The Music Man." I had various bits, but mostly I was a dancer/chorus/townsperson. Actually, as a theater major, it didn't matter whether I could carry a tune or not. I could. But who knew I could dance? The show was choreographed by a gent named Ben Bagley, long since departed from this earth, who was a pro from NYC. Ben thought I had potential. And what was left over after me didn't make his assessment much of a stretch. I did the "Marian the Librarian" bit dancing with both Harold and Marian and I danced in "Shipoopi," too. We had a lot of fun.
I have detailed my next theatrical musical experience in a past missive -- playing Matt in "The Fantasticks."
One day, BK will open the door, or crack open a window -- if, in fact, he doesn't actually "crack" the window -- and I'll get into my military years of theatrical experience playing grownup Patrick in "Mame" and Albert in "Bye Bye Birdie."
It won't take the cake....I already took it. And some pie and fudge and lots of cookies. And I had some major Snickers attacks. Oh, yes! Major attacks!
I could use some Richard Simmons advice...but my mother's aerobics group (back in South Carolina, of all places) uses his "Sweatin' to the Oldies" tape. He might have to work up something a bit more theatrical for the likes of me (or us, as the case "might" be).
Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 04/20/2002 11:46 AM PST
Since you do not count Rosalie at the St. Louis Muny, I am not going to count the children's theatre productions I saw at the Mill Run Playhouse in Niles, Illinois, as much as I loved being taken to them. Therefore, the first professional musical I saw was the first national tour of A Chorus Line at Chicago's Sam S. Shubert Theatre*. Seeing Michael Bennett's A Chorus Line affected me profoundly. It made me aware that the magic that at 9 years old I had thought could occur only in an M-G-M musical could happen live before my eyes and be even more exciting in person. A Chorus Line made me want to experience the magic again and again and it made me want to attempt to create it for myself. The razor-sharp production set the standard by which future productions would be measured, and no other tour ever came close. A Chorus Line reinforced the idea that parents make mistakes and are not always right. A Chorus Line made me believe that if I was not happy where I was at 9, that some day I might find my own ballet or Jewel Box revue. A Chorus Line brought me here.
[* Remember when all the important cities had their very own Sam S. Shubert Theatre? Of course, now the Nederlander Organization owns Chicago's very own Sam S. Shubert Theatre, an occurrence so unseemly it might rip or tear the space-time continuum.]
Postscript: The first Broadway musical I ever saw was Patti LuPone in Evita. It was an awesome performance, and I have followed her ever since. A boy's first diva always holds a very special place in his heart, I suppose.
Postpostscript: I do not mean to boast, but I have successfully ruled out Mary Martin and Ethel Merman as the answer to this week's Unseemly Trivia Contest.
Postpostpostscript: I wish this bled to the left, rather than listed to the right.
Posted by freedunit @ 04/20/2002 11:48 AM PST
P.S. There's always something else I meant to say. I have seen the "'Sweeney Todd' in Concert" -- and Neil Patrick Harris really sings the hell out of "Not While I'm Around." I was astonished.
I had not heard he could sing...or do much of anything, actually, since his scant movie career highlight of "Starship Troopers." I heard him, then focused on him and found myself grasping for a name since I recognized him -- finally, yelped out "Doogie!" and I new it was Neil Patrick Harris. I don't know about a revelation, though. The OBC performance is not easily forgotten.
Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 04/20/2002 11:51 AM PST
Firstly, I must correct my most egregious absence from yesterday's discussion and mention my favorite weepers.
Actually, I will burst into tears at any movie or television show with the slightest hint of sentiment, a trait which my Joe finds "cute", although he was raised with a pure masculine ethic under which the slightest sign of functioning tear ducts in a male animal is proof conclusive of unforgivable sissihood, and even now, when he often joins me in grabbing for a Kleenex upon, say, Captain Picard's mud fight with his older brother, the tears come only with a great effort to overcome years of suppression.
"The Way We Were" Yes, I know that Arthur Laurents is manipulating me shamelessly, just as he did in the novel, but I could not be more willing to be manipulated and inevitably boo-hoo-hoo along with Babs when she does her "best friend" bit on the telephone--and I don't even like Robert Redford all that much.
"The Graduate", the final scene on the bus always has me sobbing away, even though a voice in the back of my head keeps saying, "No job, no prospects, and they don't even know each other well enough to carry on a conversation about anything except her mother--don't you realize why Simon & Garfunkel are singing 'The Sounds of Silence'?" But I just keep on crying.
"Field of Dreams" Back in Oklahoma I hated baseball, a sentiment which is tantamount to blasphemy in that State. But it isn't the baseball, of course. It's the father/son thing. Haven't you noticed that, although most men will claim à la "Sleepless in Seattle" to be unmoved by romantic movies, film makers are well aware that unresolved father/son issues get them all right in the gut?
FIRST MUSICAL:
Alfred Drake, Doretta Morrow, Joan Diener, and Richard Kiley in Kismet on Broadway.
When I was eight, our family took a summer vacation, driving from Tulsa to New York and Washington D.C. to visit my aunt and grandmother respectively. I saw the Lincoln Memorial, the White House, the Smithsonian, the tallest building in the world, the U.S. Senate, and I shook hands with J. Edgar Hoover--but what most impressed me was Kismet.
Agog. That's what I was. Agog. At the sets, the costumes, the story, the romance, the dancing, the acting, the spectacle. Watching the June Taylor Dancers in black and white on a twelve inch screen had not prepared me for this.
I spent most of the next year poring over the program and explaining to all my schoolmates--who couldn't have cared less--every intricacy of the plot of what I was sure was the ultimate artistic achievement of the human race.
I still like it. I even had a ball at Timbuktu.
Posted by William F. Orr @ 04/20/2002 11:59 AM PST
And Lolita,My Love keep your panties on.
I don't think that in the comment box you have to necessarily answer or contribute to the question of the day. I believe all comments are gratefully appreciated(am I right,bk???)
First Musical--I believe it was the original production of Oklahoma.Alfred Drake,Joan Roberts,Celeste Holm and Just Great.
I am now pantingly putting on my pants and going for a stroll(don't you just love the word STROLL? Much more poetic that WALK,don't you think??)
Posted by Arnold M. Brockman @ 04/20/2002 12:19 PM PST
I'm so sorry!!!! RON RON RON!!!!
(For the record, I meant to type Ron, but "b" and "n" are right next to each other on the keyboard...)
Posted by Lolita @ 04/20/2002 12:20 PM PST
As far as I and my family can remember, my first professional musical was Guys and Dolls at a summer theatre. I had a great time, even though I fell asleep near the end-and slept right through "Sit Down, You're Rocking the Boat"! Little did I imagine that just this past year I would play that great role of Arvide Abernathy.
Posted by Hapgood @ 04/20/2002 01:07 PM PST
I believe my parents dragged me off to "South Pacific" with MacDonald Carey and a Nellie whom I cannot remember when I was probably six or seven. But the first show I asked to be taken to was the first national tour of "1776," with most of the OBC. I remember two things that impressed me--how steeply raked the set was (and who for crying out loud was throwing leaves on the set anyway?--sorry), and also the fact that there was dramatic underscoring beneath the dialogue. I remember turning to my Dad and saying "It's just like a movie, with music underneath the talking!" Hey, I was but a child.
Posted by JMK @ 04/20/2002 02:04 PM PST
The first musical I saw on stage was a tour of "The Sound of Music" starring Marie Osmond. That was about 7 years ago, for my 9th birthday. We didn't have much money then, and the tickets (balcony seats) seemed very expensive. But they were worth it, since seeing that show turned me into one of the pitifully few musical theater fanatics in my school.
Posted by Adrienne Hollister @ 04/20/2002 02:37 PM PST
Mister Arnold M. Brockman- First you do not discuss the topic of discussion and now you reference my panties!
(I am asked to point out that my panties are indeed cotton and that cotton panties are indeed the favorite of one young Benjamin Kritzer.)
Posted by Lolita @ 04/20/2002 03:09 PM PST
The first musical I ever saw was the first national company (I believe) of Fiddler on the Roof with Paul Lipson when I was growing up in Montreal which was not exactly a mecca for Broadway musicals.
Although Hello Dolly played at Expo 67 at a theater built especially for the show. (I didn't get to see it)
The first show I ever saw on Broadway was one of these three. It was over one weekend. (Pippin, Chicago and the The Magic Show)
The first show I saw in London's West End was Sondheim's Sweeney Todd
The first musical I ever acted in was Oliver! I played Charlie Bates.
Also did Gypsy. (Played LA in that one)
Also did Fiddler On the Roof. (I came in at the last moment as a favor to the director and played the rabbi!! The actor who played the rabbi's son Mendel was older than me!)
The first musical I ever wrote that was produced was a version of Lysistrata.
Posted by Michael Shayne @ 04/20/2002 03:39 PM PST
Do light operas count as musical? If so, HMS Pinafore at BAM in Brooklyn was my first.
Just in case I am about to be bitch-slapped for stepping out of the realms of discussion by Miss Lolita, I believe my first Broadway Musical was "Joseph and the amazing technicolor dreamcoat" with Mark Hamil. Could that be so?
I seem to remember seeing something with the fabulous Bernadette Peters, but I can't think of what it was.
Not to bee outdone by Lolita, I am also wearing cotton undergarments.
Posted by Mattso @ 04/20/2002 04:16 PM PST
The first show I ever saw was Pippin. Northern J Calloway (David, from Sesame Street) had taken over the leading player and after that show - I was hooked on musical theatre. I believe the very next show I saw was Yul Brynner and Constance Towers in The King and I.
Sadly, I was so excited to go to the Papermill Playhouse to see the new re-imagination of PIPPIN awhile back and it is one of the only shows I have ever REALLY wanted to walk out of. I didn't because I was with family...and, much like a roadside accident.. I couldn't help but watch with horror. But I digress...
Posted by Craig @ 04/20/2002 04:26 PM PST
Cotton underpants? Where in tarnation have I been? Do you know I just got a call from the LA Times, doing a survey. They asked me several interesting questions, like was I Hispanic, Negro, Asian or white. I answered white, just for the hell of it. Then she told me that today's survey was only for certain respondents. Apparently I was not good enough for her fershluganah survey - I did tell her to call back and that I would try to be Hispanic for her next call. She did not find me amusing in the least, so I suggested she come to haineshisway.com where she could find even more non-amusing stuff. She said "good day" and that was that. I was so ready to be Hispanic, Asian, Black and White and had a name all picked out - Jesus Toshiro Tupac Finkelstein. Oh, well, it's the LA Times' loss. Now, where were we? Oh, yes, cotton underpants (I do seem to have a fondness for same much like the titular character in my book Benjamin Kritzer), and first professional musical theater experience. Continue apace.
Posted by bk @ 04/20/2002 04:38 PM PST
Craig reminded me that I also saw the late Northern J Calloway as the Lead Player in Pippin and a mermber of Kimmel Rep Players Michael Rupert as Pippin and Joy Franz (later to be in Assassins and Into the Woods)
Posted by Michael Shayne @ 04/20/2002 05:01 PM PST
As with William it was "Kismet" that I thank for my introduction and love of Musical theatre. "And This Is My Beloved" still brings back the memories of the professional production in Melbourne. I must have been about 10. The "top 40" hits from the show probably helped cement my love of the score. I love Peggy Lee's version of "Baubles".
Re Sweeney: As with BK, I have not been able to listen to the whole of the NYP/Patti Lupone version. The only other "Cast" album I have failed to get through was Bernadette Peter's "Song and Dance". I will nevertheless try to watch the DVD when it is available. It is hard to beat the OBC but I do enjoy the OLC (probably because I saw the show in London). The Australian Opera company is currently "doing" Sweeney. I will see it in Melbourne next month.
Posted by Tom from OZ @ 04/20/2002 05:23 PM PST
Did anybody here know that they brought "Whatchamacallit" candy bars back? The wrapper is almost the same, and everything. A friend of mine and I finally went to see ET tonight (just as it's leaving theaters) and I first stopped at Walgreen's to get us (natch) Reese's Pieces to munch while watching, and to what did my wondering eyes appear but my old pal, the Whatchamacallit bar! Well, don't you know I just had to get one, for old times' sake. Just as yummy as ever.
Posted by Lulu @ 04/20/2002 07:24 PM PST
My parents has been attending performances at the Los Angeles Civic Light Opera for many years but I had no interest in going until my Mom told me that the next musical, "Carnival," had puppets in it. Well, I was 10 at the time and very into puppets, so I went. "Carnival" is the perfect first show because of the way it opens with an almost empty stage and a single man with a concertina. As the music starts, Gower Champion filled the stage with a the magic of theatre right before your eyes. I fell in love with musical theatre at that moment and went to every show I could with both the LACLO and the Valley Music Theatre.
Posted by Robert Armin @ 04/20/2002 08:48 PM PST
The first professional musical I saw was a touring production of A Chorus Line from the back row of the orchestra section. The first show Sandra saw a touring production of Sound Of Music -- the children were hired locally and her best friend from preschool was cast as Gretl. The girls were four years old at the time. Sandra was good as gold through the entire production and never uttered a peep.
The show that totally hooked us on live theater was Phantom of the Opera. Sandra had heard the cassette (that's how long ago it was) and insisted the only thing she wanted for Christmas was a ticket to see Phantom. She was six years old at the time. I told her if she didn't name a reasonable gift that I'd buy her a toy truck for Christmas. No, only a ticket to Phantom would do. My husband happened to mention that to someone at work, who told him that Phantom was playing in LA. He gave me the go-ahead to order a pair of tickets and take her at spring break. She still wouldn't name a reasonable gift she wanted, so I gave her a toy truck -- with the tickets taped to the box. When she opened the present and saw the truck, she cried. I felt so terrible! Of course, at age six she didn't know what a theater ticket looked like. When she realized she did get the tickets after all, she was ever so happy! We had a great trip to LA to see the show at the Ahmanson and made it a yearly trip, until the show finally left LA.
Posted by Laura @ 04/20/2002 10:26 PM PST
The first theatre musical that really made an impression on me was "Bye Bye Birdie". I remember how the Hollywood Squares set for "The Telephone Hour" was literally rocking back and forth on the stage (perfect for a rock 'n' roll show, eh?). But the real kicker for me was the "Spanish Rose" number. How did Chita and the other dancers do it? The way they disappeared behind that long table bobbing up legs first and down head first! Amazing! Such inventive and amusing choreography! Come to think of it, the shows that made the most lasting impressions on me were primarily shows with wonderful choreography...Jerome Robbins' "Gypsy" (the segue from backstage behind the curtain to stage front that began Gypsy's rise in burlesque) and "The King and I" (the "Uncle Thomas" ballet)...Gower Champion's "Hello Dolly" (the waiters number) and his "42nd Street" (those time step tapping feet in the opening number)...Bob Fosse's "Pajama Game" ("Steam Heat")...Agnes DeMille's "Oklahoma" ("Dreams" Ballet), and many more.
P.S. If there is such a thing as "stage noir," "Sweeney Todd" certainly fits the category. What saves it from being totally noir for me are the curtain calls. Once the actors step out of their characters into their bows, the atmosphere lightens and you realize it was only make believe. Hmm. Do you think I get too involved in the story?
Posted by Donna - Cabaret West @ 04/21/2002 03:32 AM PST
Just like to correct Donna on small thing. The number from Bye Bye Birdie where the dancers disappeared under the table was actually the Shriner's Ballet and not Spanish Rose.
Posted by Michael Shayne @ 04/21/2002 05:09 AM PST
Click on my name for a review of the CD Do I Hear a Waltz that Bruce produced.
Posted by Michael Shayne @ 04/21/2002 07:19 AM PST
Whoops! Let's try again. Click on my name to go to a review of Bruce's CD of Do I hear a Waltz?
Posted by Michael Shayne @ 04/21/2002 07:21 AM PST