Replies: 18 Unseemly Comments
My fun trivia question for the week
Which Tony award musical has as one of its producers a man who produced softcore porno 3-D movies?
Clue: Among the actors touted for the lead was a three time Tony winner.
Another tony award winner,
one who's career was chiefly before the Tony Awards were a major award. He would go on to win a lifetime achieve award.
Another actor was chiefly know for his film work usually playing tough bad guys and not know for his singing. He would years later win an oscar.
Name the musical
and try to name the actors.
Posted by Michael Shayne @ 05/11/2002 09:11 AM PST
I posted a correction this morning, but now I find that the new Notes are up, and probably nobody read my correction, especially not Mr. Mark Bakalor, the intended victim recipient, making me feel like poor Tom of Oz.
I will not just let the chips fall where they may. My Joe just cleaned the kitchen floor, and he would be livid!
So, herewith, my correction again:
Mr. Mark Bakalor:
Excuse, please, the seeming nonsense of "Are you up to the task of numbering and -ing them? "
That should read:
Are you up to the task of [less than sign]a name="..."[greater than sign]-ing them?
Does this work:
Are you up to the task of <a name="...">-ing them?
It's the fershluganah double interpretation of the code that mucks it up.
Posted by William F. Orr @ 05/11/2002 09:50 AM PST
My Guess for the trivia question
The Show:
Family Affair
The Writers:
Willaim Goldman(Butch Cassidy, Magic, Princess Bride)
James Goldman (Lion in Winter, Folies, Evening Primrose)
John Kander (Cabaret, Chicago, Funny Lady, New York/New York)
The Serious Actors:
Morris Carnovsky and Eillen Heckart
The Juvenile Leads:
Rita Gardner (The Fantasticks)
Larry Kert (West Side Story)
The Comic Actor:
Shelly Berman
The Director
Harold Prince (Cabaret, Company, Follies, Evita etc)
Ensemble Player
Linda Lavin (Tony Winner for Broadway Bound)
and four emmy awards among them Linda in Wonderland, The Sunset Gang as a producer
Posted by Michael Shayne @ 05/11/2002 10:03 AM PST
I am sorry folks I accidently posted this. Many wet lashes with noodles.
I wasn't thinking. Shoooot!
BK can you erase this from the postings?
Posted by Michael Shayne @ 05/11/2002 10:06 AM PST
I am sorry folks I accidently posted this. Many wet lashes with noodles.
I wasn't thinking. Shoooot!
BK can you erase this from the postings?
Posted by Michael Shayne @ 05/11/2002 10:06 AM PST
Alright, already - I'll come out of the land of lurking and post.
I think my favorite flop musical has to be STEEL PIER. I love the score and loved the performances and also this show is sentimental to me because it was the first time I drove into New York City BY MYSELF!!! I think one of the reasons the show wasn't successful was the book and its lack of focus on who's story was being told. So much of it was Rita's story, but then when it would shift to other characters, their stories, relationships, etc., for me at least, were never developed.
Thinking about this question, I realized I've seen quite a bit of flops. And most of them opened at the Richards Rodgers theatre. What's that about?
Posted by Mark L. @ 05/11/2002 11:00 AM PST
Well, for only the second time in our history, someone has posted rather than e-mailed the trivia question answer, thereby making null and void this week's question. I'm going to go in now and do a substitute question, so if you've already read the notes, check them out again for the new question.
Posted by bk @ 05/11/2002 12:22 PM PST
Well, I think Michael Shayne merits ten minutes in the penalty box and a collective bitch slap from all and sun dried.
Are we ready? One! Two! Three! Bitch Slap!
(This offer is not available to residents of Canada.)
Posted by William F. Orr @ 05/11/2002 06:30 PM PST
Sure, Michael Shayne can post the answer, but can he tell us the punchline to the Diller joke? Noooo. :)
I am wondering if the rumor is true that Mr. Mark Bakalor has signed a deal with ABC for a series entitled The Bakalor, wherein he is offered 26 theater websites and must choose which one he wants to design. I think it might get ugly.
Posted by JMK @ 05/11/2002 08:10 PM PST
But on to today's topic--since everyone seems to be reclused in meditation over their filial guilt before Mother's Day--flops.
Of course that really depends on your definition of flop. I've seen several box-office and artistic flops, but for the most part I felt they deserved their fate.
On the other hand, both Pacific Overtures and Merrily We Roll Along were technically flops. And I can't really fault PO, although I understand that Sondheim was heard to say afterwards, "It should never have been written."
Merrily, on the other hand! I would fault only the sets, the costumes, the direction, the book and some of the performances. But, ah!, that score in search of a book! I believe this show well become the Flying Dutchman of theatre, perpetually being rewritten, perpetually seeking the perfect artistic balance it strives for. In that aspect alone, it is one of the most interesting of Bruce Kimmel's close personal friend Stephen Sondheim's shows.
Well, actually Sweeney Todd was a commercial flop. For which I blame Harold Prince's dreams of grandeur, that rebuilt factory set, and the decision to put it in an all-but-unfillable theatre. If only he had had the vision to think small! And then he got his revenge with Phantom of the Opera, where there was no briliance of book and score to get in the way of his vision.
Am I getting tacky? Who am I all of a sudden, Rudy Dedescu? I admit, there is a vague resemblence.
But speaking of trivia questions--we were speking of trivia questions, weren't we?--what ever happened to those two mini-trivia questions? I mean mine about the play and musical whose titles came from men's room graffiti, and Mattso's, wasn't it?, about the two stars with the same name who costarred with the spouse of one of them. Have both questions disappeared into the void?
Posted by William F. Orr @ 05/11/2002 08:51 PM PST
Ask and ye shall receive. Comment order has been modified...
Posted by Mr. Mark Bakalor @ 05/11/2002 09:20 PM PST
Dumb question -- but what's a menu for a dvd?
Posted by Laura @ 05/11/2002 09:55 PM PST
Bitch-slap your ass for
misspelling my name!
Posted by Eileen Heckart @ 05/11/2002 10:42 PM PST
Menu for a DVD:
Something to bite or nibble
on?
Would you like chips or
cookies?
Posted by Your Waiter This Evening @ 05/11/2002 10:45 PM PST
Well, do we all like having the posts in the correct order, first to most recent? I think I do, by jove and by golly. When you put a DVD in the player, usually the first thing you'll see on your screen (after the unseemly FBI warning and such) is a "menu" - a screen with all your viewing options, from which you choose to view the movie, set up the audio, view the special features, etc. Depending on what you click on, that menu will either take you directly to the film, or to another menu with other options. Some menus are just still frames, but some are animated and move and do fun things (the James Bond menus are the coolest in the land) - ours are animated and a ton of fun, I think. They have music and sound bites, too.
Posted by bk @ 05/11/2002 11:30 PM PST
"Working" is one of my favourite "flop" musicals. I really enjoyed seeing it performed and I like the recording and the James Taylor songs on his own album. ("Flag" I think). People had to think when they were in the theatre - always a problem I guess. I have seen very bad professional productions of "Chess" and very entertaining and competent non-professional productions. I suspect it is the book and the timing that was wrong. It seems to work quite well as a concert version. "Merrily" certainly works as a CD - I have not seen a professional production but have enjoyed it when done otherwise - maybe my expectations were not as high. I don't see the backwards story as being its problem - and certainly not that wonderful score.
Posted by Tom from OZ @ 05/12/2002 01:20 AM PST
Well! We have had quite enough bitch slapping for one day. I say a hearty hip hip hooray and a tip of the Hatlo hat to Mr. Mark Bakalor and his software wizardry!
Now our Unseemly Comments no longer look like the umpteenth revision of Merrily We Post Along but have a chronological fluidity in the classic story-telling tradition.
All absence and truency are forgiven, and I take back all of my vicious and/or semivicious remarks about my words falling off the left- and/or right-hand side of the frame. Cheese slices and ham chunks all around. (But save some for Mother, please.)
Posted by William F. Orr @ 05/12/2002 02:40 AM PST
If we don't count Follies and She Loves Me (both of which were, technically, flops), then my favorite major flop was The Grass Harp which boasted such unmicrophoned stars as Barbara Cook, Karen Morrow, Max Showalter and Carol Brice. Today, it's score would be considered a minor miracle, but at the time, the show came and went in a week. I still think there is a great show in The Goodbye Girl, but neither the New York or London productions managed to reveal it -- the New York version because they tried to be politically correct and the London version because they threw out the best parts of the score (which were never the problem).
Posted by Robert Armin @ 05/12/2002 09:10 AM PST