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05/11/2002:
"LETTING THE CHIPS FALL"

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bk's notes II

Well, dear readers, today is the day when I’ll be doing The Broadway Radio Show with our very own Mr. Donald Feltham. Mr. Donald Feltham’s instructions seemed simple enough – pick twelve of my favorite showtunes, in performances from original cast albums or from cover versions. Well, it was not as simple as it seemed, let me tell you that. It was, in fact, quite a daunting task. I agonized and fretted and fretted and agonized over these choices. Finally, I just had to choose my choices and let the chips fall where they may. So, I went to the cupboard, opened some chips (Doritos) and tossed said chips in the air and let them fall where they may, which in this particular instance, was the kitchen floor. Where else were the chips going to fall? Of course the chips were going to fall on the kitchen floor, where did I think they were going to fall, Rancho Cucamonga? So, I hope you’ll all tune in on Sunday to hear the showtunes I chose and the reasons I chose them. It actually turned out to be a very eclectic and strange batch of showtunes, and I think you’ll find it fascinating, at least I certainly found it fascinating. Perhaps whilst listening to the show, you can open some chips and let them fall where they may.

Yesterday, I finally got to see the handy-dandy menus for the DVD of my film, The First Nudie Musical. They are very clever and lots of fun – they’re fully animated, they have music and sound-bites and I was very impressed. Above all, they are easy to navigate. Some of these DVD menus are nigh unto impossible to navigate. I don’t like that word “nigh” do you? You just know that some lazy word person somewhere said, “well, if I just take the “t” off of “night” I’ll create a new word, “nigh”.” Look at that word, just sitting there like so much fish, with no point and no purpose other than to annoy me. In fact, that whole phrase, “nigh unto impossible” just irks me. I am irked just looking at it. An irked person is typing right now. And while we’re at it, why don’t we just drop the “t” off of “right” and have a new word, “righ”. Yes, our menus are righ unto the probable to navigate, so there. What the hell am I talking about? In any case, the menus are spiffy and totally with it and cool, man. In fact, I would go so far as to say they are cooliscious – I’ll say it and let the chips fall where they may.

Well, you all know what today is, don’t you? Today is our handy-dandy Unseemly Trivia Contest question day, that’s what today is. Now, no sitting on your unseemly butt cheeks – you must play to win and win to play. You must not lurk, like our other lurkers. You must step forward, head held high and you must guess, dear readers, even if you feel finding the answer to the question is nigh unto impossible. So, let us gird our collective loins and just click on that Unseemly Button below. “Gird our collective loins”? Did I just write that sentence? Frankly, I would much prefer to loin our collective girds, wouldn’t you? The last time I girded my loins I had a hernia. “Loins”. That is just such a Jerry Lewis word, isn’t it? Let’s all say “loins” in our best Jerry Lewis voice, on the count of three: One, two, three: Loins. Whoa, that was a cacophony of Jerrys. Of course, to a coprophiliac that would be cacophony. Where was I? Oh, yes, we must gird our loins and click on the Unseemly Button below.

I don’t know about you, dear readers, but my loins feel ever so much better since I girded them.

I am in the midst of watching quite an entertaining DVD entitled Expresso Bongo, starring Mr. Laurence Harvey and Mr. Cliff Richard. It’s a musical, really, or at least it has a lot of songs. It’s based on a short story and play by Wolf Mankewicz, and the play had music and lyrics by David Heneker, Julian More and Monty Norman (he of the controversial James Bond Theme). The film has those songs plus a lot of others. Mr. Harvey, who I’ve always been a fan of, gives a superb performance, and I’ll have a fuller report once I’ve finished watching it. I was fortunate enough to see Mr. Harvey on the stage right here in Los Angeles, California, at the Huntington Hartford Theater. He was in a play that was trying out here and then heading for Broadway. In the play, Mr. Harvey played someone who married newly widowed women and then murdered them to get their money. He meets a newly widowed woman at a funeral and marries her, only to find out that this woman marries newly widowed men to murder them for their money. The first act curtain line was, “Good God, a competitor!” Isn’t it funny that I still remember that line from a play that I saw once over thirty-five years ago. I thought it was a great show – the entire second act is the two of them trying to kill each other and it was absolutely hilarious. It didn’t hurt that playing opposite Mr. Harvey was Miss Elaine Stritch. The play was by Peter Barnes, who would go on to write The Ruling Class. The director was a well-known Brit, but I can’t remember which well-known Brit it was – by the time the show limped into Los Angeles, the well-known Brit had been canned and the direction was credited to one Fred Hebert, who didn’t even warrant a Who’s Who in the program. I believe there were many personality problems, and Miss Stritch was in her heavy-drinking period. When I recorded Drat! The Cat! and got to work with Miss Stritch, I told her I’d seen the play and that I thought she was brilliant in it (she really was), and she told me some great stories, and she also seemed rueful that it hadn’t come into New York, because it really was a very good and very funny dark comedy. I have the script somewhere, too – I must dig it out and read it. Oh, and one other fascinating thing about that production – the incidental music was by Miles Davis and Gil Evans. It’s on CD, in one of those huge Miles Davis box sets and it’s great.

Well, let us tarry no more, let us get to our handy-dandy Unseemly Trivia Contest question without further ado. But first, let’s all say “loins” again, on the count of three (and in our best Jerry Lewis voices): One, two, three: Loins. Man, we’re good at that. In any case, here is this week’s question:

One 60s musical had an incredible group of artists working on it. It had two authors and a composer who would go on to have huge careers in both musical theater and films. It had two great serious actors in leading roles; one great comic actor; two adorable juveniles, both of whom had been involved in incredibly successful shows; and one director who had a hand in creating many hit musicals. The cast also featured someone in a very small ensemble role who would go on to be a major television and theater star (winner of both the Emmy and the Tony).

Name the musical.
Name the two authors and the composer.
Name the director.
Name the two serious actors, the two juveniles, the comic actor and the director.
Finally, name the ensemble player who would go on to be a major television and theater star.

If we have no guesses by Sunday, I will give you all an unseemly clue. Remember, don’t post your answers, send them to me at bruce@haineshisway.com.

Well, that was the question - unfortunately, one of our very own dear readers posted the answer rather than e-mailing it, so that question is now null and void and also void and null. So, I've had to quickly whip up another question, which is not nearly as good but that will have to do:

What musical spawned a major television star, a multiple Academy Award nominee. and a beast. And what traumatic and life-changing event happened to certain members of the creative team?

Name the musical, the major television star, the multiple Academy Award nominee, and the beast. And name the certain members of the creative team and what the life-changing traumatic event was that befell them.

Well, dear readers, I must be off to tape the handy-dandy radio show. In the meantime, I feel you should all open you bags of chips and let them fall where they may and I also feel you should gird your loins whilst doing it. Today’s topic of discussion: Since I was talking about Time of the Barracudas – what is your favorite flop play or musical that you’ve seen, and why, since you loved it, do you think it wasn’t successful? I’ll start: I’ve already told you why Barracudas didn’t make it in – too much behind the scenes turmoil – but if that show had been done in the seventies or early eighties with stars like Harvey and Stritch, I think it absolutely would have been a smash hit. Other than that, the closest thing would be Mack and Mabel, which I really enjoyed. It had real book problems which they, to this day, haven’t solved, but the production was a total delight, and Peters and Preston were wonderful in it. It has some terrific Gower Champion numbers and an almost wholly successful Jerry Herman score. Your turn.

- Bruce Kimmel



Replies: 18 Unseemly Comments


My fun trivia question for the week

Which Tony award musical has as one of its producers a man who produced softcore porno 3-D movies?

Clue: Among the actors touted for the lead was a three time Tony winner.

Another tony award winner,

one who's career was chiefly before the Tony Awards were a major award. He would go on to win a lifetime achieve award.

Another actor was chiefly know for his film work usually playing tough bad guys and not know for his singing. He would years later win an oscar.

Name the musical

and try to name the actors.

Posted by Michael Shayne @ 05/11/2002 09:11 AM PST


I posted a correction this morning, but now I find that the new Notes are up, and probably nobody read my correction, especially not Mr. Mark Bakalor, the intended victim recipient, making me feel like poor Tom of Oz.

I will not just let the chips fall where they may. My Joe just cleaned the kitchen floor, and he would be livid!

So, herewith, my correction again:

Mr. Mark Bakalor:

Excuse, please, the seeming nonsense of "Are you up to the task of numbering and -ing them? "

That should read:

Are you up to the task of [less than sign]a name="..."[greater than sign]-ing them?

Does this work:

Are you up to the task of <a name="...">-ing them?

It's the fershluganah double interpretation of the code that mucks it up.

Posted by William F. Orr @ 05/11/2002 09:50 AM PST


My Guess for the trivia question

The Show:
Family Affair

The Writers:
Willaim Goldman(Butch Cassidy, Magic, Princess Bride)

James Goldman (Lion in Winter, Folies, Evening Primrose)

John Kander (Cabaret, Chicago, Funny Lady, New York/New York)

The Serious Actors:
Morris Carnovsky and Eillen Heckart

The Juvenile Leads:
Rita Gardner (The Fantasticks)
Larry Kert (West Side Story)

The Comic Actor:
Shelly Berman

The Director
Harold Prince (Cabaret, Company, Follies, Evita etc)

Ensemble Player
Linda Lavin (Tony Winner for Broadway Bound)
and four emmy awards among them Linda in Wonderland, The Sunset Gang as a producer

Posted by Michael Shayne @ 05/11/2002 10:03 AM PST


I am sorry folks I accidently posted this. Many wet lashes with noodles.

I wasn't thinking. Shoooot!

BK can you erase this from the postings?

Posted by Michael Shayne @ 05/11/2002 10:06 AM PST


I am sorry folks I accidently posted this. Many wet lashes with noodles.

I wasn't thinking. Shoooot!

BK can you erase this from the postings?

Posted by Michael Shayne @ 05/11/2002 10:06 AM PST


Alright, already - I'll come out of the land of lurking and post.

I think my favorite flop musical has to be STEEL PIER. I love the score and loved the performances and also this show is sentimental to me because it was the first time I drove into New York City BY MYSELF!!! I think one of the reasons the show wasn't successful was the book and its lack of focus on who's story was being told. So much of it was Rita's story, but then when it would shift to other characters, their stories, relationships, etc., for me at least, were never developed.

Thinking about this question, I realized I've seen quite a bit of flops. And most of them opened at the Richards Rodgers theatre. What's that about?

Posted by Mark L. @ 05/11/2002 11:00 AM PST


Well, for only the second time in our history, someone has posted rather than e-mailed the trivia question answer, thereby making null and void this week's question. I'm going to go in now and do a substitute question, so if you've already read the notes, check them out again for the new question.

Posted by bk @ 05/11/2002 12:22 PM PST


Well, I think Michael Shayne merits ten minutes in the penalty box and a collective bitch slap from all and sun dried.

Are we ready? One! Two! Three! Bitch Slap!

(This offer is not available to residents of Canada.)

Posted by William F. Orr @ 05/11/2002 06:30 PM PST


Sure, Michael Shayne can post the answer, but can he tell us the punchline to the Diller joke? Noooo. :)

I am wondering if the rumor is true that Mr. Mark Bakalor has signed a deal with ABC for a series entitled The Bakalor, wherein he is offered 26 theater websites and must choose which one he wants to design. I think it might get ugly.

Posted by JMK @ 05/11/2002 08:10 PM PST


But on to today's topic--since everyone seems to be reclused in meditation over their filial guilt before Mother's Day--flops.

Of course that really depends on your definition of flop. I've seen several box-office and artistic flops, but for the most part I felt they deserved their fate.

On the other hand, both Pacific Overtures and Merrily We Roll Along were technically flops. And I can't really fault PO, although I understand that Sondheim was heard to say afterwards, "It should never have been written."

Merrily, on the other hand! I would fault only the sets, the costumes, the direction, the book and some of the performances. But, ah!, that score in search of a book! I believe this show well become the Flying Dutchman of theatre, perpetually being rewritten, perpetually seeking the perfect artistic balance it strives for. In that aspect alone, it is one of the most interesting of Bruce Kimmel's close personal friend Stephen Sondheim's shows.

Well, actually Sweeney Todd was a commercial flop. For which I blame Harold Prince's dreams of grandeur, that rebuilt factory set, and the decision to put it in an all-but-unfillable theatre. If only he had had the vision to think small! And then he got his revenge with Phantom of the Opera, where there was no briliance of book and score to get in the way of his vision.

Am I getting tacky? Who am I all of a sudden, Rudy Dedescu? I admit, there is a vague resemblence.

But speaking of trivia questions--we were speking of trivia questions, weren't we?--what ever happened to those two mini-trivia questions? I mean mine about the play and musical whose titles came from men's room graffiti, and Mattso's, wasn't it?, about the two stars with the same name who costarred with the spouse of one of them. Have both questions disappeared into the void?

Posted by William F. Orr @ 05/11/2002 08:51 PM PST


Ask and ye shall receive. Comment order has been modified...

Posted by Mr. Mark Bakalor @ 05/11/2002 09:20 PM PST


Dumb question -- but what's a menu for a dvd?

Posted by Laura @ 05/11/2002 09:55 PM PST


Bitch-slap your ass for
misspelling my name!

Posted by Eileen Heckart @ 05/11/2002 10:42 PM PST


Menu for a DVD:
Something to bite or nibble
on?
Would you like chips or
cookies?

Posted by Your Waiter This Evening @ 05/11/2002 10:45 PM PST


Well, do we all like having the posts in the correct order, first to most recent? I think I do, by jove and by golly. When you put a DVD in the player, usually the first thing you'll see on your screen (after the unseemly FBI warning and such) is a "menu" - a screen with all your viewing options, from which you choose to view the movie, set up the audio, view the special features, etc. Depending on what you click on, that menu will either take you directly to the film, or to another menu with other options. Some menus are just still frames, but some are animated and move and do fun things (the James Bond menus are the coolest in the land) - ours are animated and a ton of fun, I think. They have music and sound bites, too.

Posted by bk @ 05/11/2002 11:30 PM PST


"Working" is one of my favourite "flop" musicals. I really enjoyed seeing it performed and I like the recording and the James Taylor songs on his own album. ("Flag" I think). People had to think when they were in the theatre - always a problem I guess. I have seen very bad professional productions of "Chess" and very entertaining and competent non-professional productions. I suspect it is the book and the timing that was wrong. It seems to work quite well as a concert version. "Merrily" certainly works as a CD - I have not seen a professional production but have enjoyed it when done otherwise - maybe my expectations were not as high. I don't see the backwards story as being its problem - and certainly not that wonderful score.

Posted by Tom from OZ @ 05/12/2002 01:20 AM PST


Well! We have had quite enough bitch slapping for one day. I say a hearty hip hip hooray and a tip of the Hatlo hat to Mr. Mark Bakalor and his software wizardry!

Now our Unseemly Comments no longer look like the umpteenth revision of Merrily We Post Along but have a chronological fluidity in the classic story-telling tradition.

All absence and truency are forgiven, and I take back all of my vicious and/or semivicious remarks about my words falling off the left- and/or right-hand side of the frame. Cheese slices and ham chunks all around. (But save some for Mother, please.)

Posted by William F. Orr @ 05/12/2002 02:40 AM PST


If we don't count Follies and She Loves Me (both of which were, technically, flops), then my favorite major flop was The Grass Harp which boasted such unmicrophoned stars as Barbara Cook, Karen Morrow, Max Showalter and Carol Brice. Today, it's score would be considered a minor miracle, but at the time, the show came and went in a week. I still think there is a great show in The Goodbye Girl, but neither the New York or London productions managed to reveal it -- the New York version because they tried to be politically correct and the London version because they threw out the best parts of the score (which were never the problem).

Posted by Robert Armin @ 05/12/2002 09:10 AM PST





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