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07/04/2002:
"THE RED, WHITE AND BLUE PANTALOONS"

Photo of Bruce Kimmel

bk's notes II

Well, dear readers, here it is, the fourth of July, our very first fourth of July here at haineshisway.com. Well, we must celebrate, dear readers, we must make fireworks and barbecue our wieners and chicken bits and burgers, we must put on our pointy Uncle Sam party hats, our red, white and blue pantaloons and we must march around our various and sundried homes in patriotic fervor. Even the singing bird has gotten in the spirit of things and is currently singing Piddle, Twiddle and Resolve. Yes, get out the cheese slices and ham chunks, because today is the fourth of July and the devil take the hindmost.

I had a marvelous massage last night and my neck feels ever so much better. I am now feeling myself again. Why do I feel myself? Can’t I get anyone else to feel me? Am I repugnant or something? Am I repellent or something? Have I got the cooties or something? Perhaps if I light a sparkler then someone will feel me? Perhaps not. Maybe if I light one of those little black snake things someone will feel me. Oh, well, I suppose I shall have to make do with feeling myself. What the hell am I talking about?

This here fourth of July celebration will be going on all day here at haineshisway.com, so do check back every few minutes for the latest and greatest. We must all put on our Speedos and lounge in our yards. Those who don’t have pools can swim in the sink. We must parade gaily, showing off our abs and buns of steel to all the passersby. We must play patriotic music such as You’re a Grand Old Flag and The Name Game. Oh, what fun we shall have heating our collective coals, barbecuing our collective wieners, and watching fireworks light up the sky. I myself will be throwing jello hither and thither and also yon, just because jello is so festive and jiggly. I hope you will all join me in the throwing of the jiggly jello.

Well, even though we are celebrating the fourth of July, there are still excellent questions which need answering by the likes of me. Therefore the likes of me will now answer all your excellent questions. But first, the likes of me and the likes of you must click on the likes of the Unseemly Button below.

Well, shall we take a little break from the fireworks and wieners and jiggly jello to answer your excellent questions? I do believe we shall.

William E. Lurie asks why the Nudie Musical DVD has not been reviewed in any of the four New York newspapers? Well, I know Image Entertainment is fairly good about getting review copies to people, so hopefully they will get around to it – no one, unfortunately, has any control over what these people print and don’t print, and I think we all know that many of these people don’t seem to be aware of films they should be aware of. Not that we are casting aspertions – oh, no, we are not casting aspertions. Have I started a sequel to Benjamin Kritzer and if so when will it be released? Mr. William E. Lurie’s only criticism of the book was it’s length, which he felt was too damn short, more like a novella than a novel. Actually, the word count of the book more than meets the requirements for a full-length novel – I checked and we are over 20,000 words more than a novella. I don’t want to say too much right now about a sequel, other than that I have begun one and am plugging away quite slowly. The first book took me quite awhile to get going on – getting a form I was happy with, seeing where it was going, and this new one is exactly the same. If I end up liking where it takes me, then I’ll continue and finish it and see if I like it. Were there ever any songs that I wanted to include on a Lost in Boston or Unsung Musicals album that I could not get permission for. No, I got permission for everything I wanted to record, even from the usually unbendable Bernstein estate for the West Side Story song.

Kerry asks if I think the book for Smile could be rewritten and the show brought back. Yes, absolutely. The score, as I’ve said, really works pretty much of the time, and it’s melodic and fun and clever. The movie works pretty damn well, so I believe there’s enough there to fix the problems with tone and wrong direction in Mr. Ashman’s book. And I’d make the show perkier and faster. It’s unbelievably slow at times, and always seems to be veering toward the maudlin or the melodramatic. If it were to be brought back, who would I cast? Well, young people. I’m sure we’d find something for our very own Tammy Minoff and Juliana A. Hansen (who sings a great Disneyland, let me tell you). Kerry wants to know what Mr. Guy Haines is up to these days? Well, he was kind enough to sing the songs on the Benjamin Kritzer CDs. He’s also been quite busy with his tennis, and is very confused as to why his CD doesn’t seem to be available. Kerry also bought Miss Lisa Richard’s CD and likes my very own song and wants to know if there are other songs of mine floating around which have been recorded by other folks. Well, there’s Chinese Food in Bed on the aforementioned suddenly hard-to-find Guy Haines album, there’s Michelle Nicastro singing What Do I Do Now? from my musical version of A Comedy of Errors (on the Shakespeare on Broadway album), and there are a few things sung by others on The Music of Bruce Kimmel CD, which is also hard to find. Other than that, there are the cast albums of Stages and Together Again. Kerry also asks what I think of the trend in restaurants to present food in a vertical manner. I don’t know that I know about that trend. They serve steak standing up? The meat is actually vertical? I do not like vertical meat, that much I can tell you. Finally, what is the worst cabaret act I’ve ever seen, and what is the worst number I’ve ever seen performed in a cabaret act? Well, I went to the Cinegrill one fine night and was one of two people in the audience – the singer would not stop singing – she never shut up for two hours and acted like we were begging for more. It was horrendous – she couldn’t really sing at all and it was excruciating. The worst number was some guy (he’s well-known in LA apparently, even though I’d never heard of him), who sang and played the piano and also played the harp, all at the same time, at least I think it was a harp. He did My Funny Valentine like that and I thought I was going to do the Danny Thomas Spit Take when he started his little jazz waltz version.

Freedunit asks what does this country, the United States of America, and its democracy and freedoms mean to me? Well, it’s the fourth of July, and the USA is a fine place to be. Do I think it’s perfect? Of course not. I am especially not enamored of the judicial system which favors the wealthy and lets people of lesser wealth get abused by people who have the wherewithal to do so. On the other hand, what other great nation allows the wearing of pointy party hats, colored tights and pantaloons, the eating of cheese slices and ham chunks and the dancing of the Hora, on a regular basis, without regard to race, creed, color or sexual orientation? I’d say that makes us the greatest country in the world, damn them, damn them all to hell.

Hapgood asks what the difference is between an orchestrator and an arranger. An arranger figures out the layout of the song – how it’s to be done. Does it have a vamp at the top (which the arranger will frequently write), does it have an instrumental repeat, do you take the verse and move it to the middle, do you take the bridge and move it to the beginning, do you extend the ending, do you put songs together, all of that stuff. All of that arrangement (which may even call for certain types of instrumentation) is then handed to an orchestrator, who assigns all the notes to the various instruments. Sometimes the arranger and orchestrator are the same, sometimes not. For example, Mr. Stephen Sondheim is obviously the “arranger” of his songs within the shows he writes them for (others can arrange them in different ways – when they are used outside of their original context). He hands Mr. Tunick (or whoever) his very detailed piano part and Mr. Tunick assigns the notes in the piano part to the orchestra. Mr. Sondheim has been known to be snappish if someone gives Mr. Tunick too much credit – I’ve heard him say, “It’s all in the piano part.” Last night, Hapgood heard a song called Imagine My Surprise – do I know where it comes from or who wrote it? I do not, but I’m sure one of our dear readers can help with the information.

Michael Shayne asks what have been the highlights for me, as: An actor – I suppose either Nudie Musical or the Peter Nichol’s play Forget-Me-Not Lane, which I did at the Mark Taper Forum and then for PBS. A writer – Benjamin Kritzer, by far. A director – I suppose Nudie Musical, but I think there are better things a comin’. A composer/lyricist – well, I feel some fondness for my musical, Stages. And there are several songs I’m rather fond of, including When You’re Waiting for Love which Miss Lisa Richard features on her new album. A record producer – oh, I guess doing The King and I would be a highlight. Working with Loudon, Bacall and Stritch would be a highlight, but then again, working with all the tremendously wonderful and talented people I’ve been blessed to work with would have to be a highlight to. And getting to know and be great pals with Harvery Schmidt would definitely be a highlight. Was Susan Pomeroy’s mother named Eva, because there is one Pomeroy still living in Montreal. Well, Susan’s mother had run off long ago and she lived in Montreal only with her father. Are the movie theaters mentioned in Benjamin Kritzer still in existence? Which one had the most memorable architectural design? Of the neighborhood theaters, the Picfair and the Lido are gone, both parking lots. The Stadium became a Jewish temple in 1960, and that story will be in the sequel, if and when I finish that book. The Wiltern is still there, but it’s a fancy-shmancy concert venue now. The Cinerama theater on Hollywood Blvd. is still there, but used only for private screenings. It was remodeled in the early sixties, after three panel Cinerama bit the dust. The Village in Westwood is still there and still gorgeous. One of the all-time treats of my life was seeing a preview of Nudie Musical there. The Wiltern was the one I remember being the most spectacular architecturally, just a stunner on every level.

Craig asks if I ever got the box sets of the British TV show, Thunderbirds. Not yet, but I shall be. Oh, yes, I shall be. What was the most spectacular fireworks presentation I’ve ever witnessed? Well, around fifteen years ago I went to a Dodgers game and the fireworks were pretty spectacular there. I think it was a Dodgers game. Do they play baseball on the fourth of July? Maybe it was the Hollywood Bowl. Do they play baseball at the Hollywood Bowl? Maybe it was a bowling alley. Do they play baseball at a bowling alley. Maybe it was some other kind of alley – some alleys have incredible fireworks. Did I ever get to see Jason Graae and Susan Egan in High Button Shoes? Sadly, no. I was all set to go, had my name on a list and everything, but I got really nauseous (I think I’d eaten something rotten in Denmark) and didn’t want to chance throwing up in the car or in the theater. I heard it was great, and that they were both superb. What was going on at the end of the Nudie Musical documentary, when someone was peering through the faux tinted window behind me. Well, Nick Redman, our director, thought that was amusing, having someone looking through a faux tinted window while we were filming. I thought it fairly outré myself, but then the whole documentary is fairly outré. If I could be any celebrity for a day who would I be and why? I can’t really imagine wanting to some celebrity for a day, unless it was to do something interesting that I couldn’t do otherwise, like be mobbed by hordes of screaming teenagers. Why don’t a lot of DVDs use the Title/Text feature – Nudie Musical doesn’t – is there a reason behind that decision? I don’t even know what the fershluganah Title/Text feature is, so that is one reason we didn’t use it. Do I do any impressions, and if so, who? Yes, I do. When I used to do my nightclub act (all throughout the eighties and early nineties, at the Gardenia) a segment called Dueling Fools, wherein Anthony Newley and Joel Grey sing a duet of What Kind of Fool Am I? I do both gentleman very well indeed. I also do an impression of Don Knotts playing Tevye. I also do a very good Tammy Grimes. If I couldn’t direct a film version of my novel, who would I like to do it? Would Barry Levinson get a meeting? Would Robert Mulligan? Twenty years ago, maybe Robert Mulligan, who I like a lot. I wouldn’t be thrilled with Levinson. There aren’t many filmmakers I care for too much. I don’t know, Lasse Halstrom is good, but it’s such an American story, he probably isn’t right. Joe Dante would be too smart-alecky, although he would certainly get the material. I would just not want anyone to overdo it or make it too big and gooey. Someone who could get the comedy, and make the love story believable but not sugary, and keep it all very simple. We’ll be making this very thing a topic of discussion in a few weeks, so stay tuned. When I sit down to write a song what tools do I use? I use a screwdriver and a ball peen hammer. Do I use a scratch pad, a thesaurus – what is my process? I don’t really have a process. It comes to me quite naturally. For the new musical I’m working on, David Wechter and I discuss the character and plot and then, when I’m alone, I just sit at the piano and wait for something to happen. Usually I’ll start noodling or coming up with a chord progression – that will suggest some lyric pattern to me and then I go from there. Sometimes I have a title, which makes things easier. Chinese Food in Bed took six minutes to write and I never changed a line of the song. I just got the title and it came pouring out. Ditto with When You’re Waiting For Love. I got the intro verse – I don’t even remember why it came to me – and then the rest just flowed easily. Then there are songs that take a month to complete. I’ve also been known to write a complete lyric without any music and also write an entire song musically with no idea of a lyric. I spoofed the porn industry in Nudie Musical – if I were to direct another film spoofing an industry, what would it be and why? You will find out the answer to that question in good time. Finally, what is my favorite day here at haineshisway.com? Well, every day is my favorite day, but my most favorite day I think, is Ask BK Day, because I do love and enjoy everyone’s excellent questions.

Jed asks who is the singer on I Don’t Have to Hide Anymore during the end credits of Nudie Musical. Why, that singer is my very own self. You want to see where Guy Haines got his style – just listen. He stole my act, that Guy. All you have to do is hear Guy’s version on the documentary soundtrack – he just rips me off unbelievably. I hit him in the head when I heard him do it, but he likes that sort of thing. Did I ever find my Susan Pomeroy (or whatever her real name is)? Does she have a clue that she has been immortalized in quasi-fiction? I don’t want to say too much about this because Susan is a magical character and I don’t want to diffuse that magic in any way. I will only say this: Susan is based on someone I knew at my grammar school – someone who did look exactly like Ingrid Thulin. But it only lasted for a couple of months and then she moved away. I wrote that story exactly that way, somewhere around page fifty, and the whole thing lasted maybe six pages. When I went back and read it the next day I realized that that was what the book had to be about (I’d been writing blindly up till then). I moved it to part two, and then expanded the real life event into something I wished it would have been. Once I began writing her, she just took over and from that point on the book really wrote itself. It was like having her on my shoulder, really. As to whether either Benjamin or myself ever found her again – well, we shall have to wait and see, shan’t we?

Lolita asks if I have kept or keep a journal? No, I really haven’t, except, I suppose, for these here notes. Do I write long hand or short hand or on the computer or the typewriter. I’ve never really written much in longhand – although sometimes, if I’m sitting outside, I’ll take a pad and scribble. Benjamin Kritzer was written on the computer, although again I did write some on a pad every now and then. I used to write everything on a typewriter, but I find the laptop ever so much more convenient. However, lyrics I write longhand, in scribbles. On napkins, on notepaper, on paper that’s already been used – I’ll write lyrics on anything, anywhere, anytime. Do I collect anything else that I haven’t mentioned? Well, art, books, DVDs, CDs, and sometimes odd junk. I’ve managed to amass a nice collection of menus from restaurants I ate at as a kid, and I have quite a bit of Godzilla memorabilia. I used to be a rabid movie poster collector (I had a major collection), but when I got into original art, I got rid of the posters. What is my favorite Shakespeare play? I’ve been asked that before, I think. I always answer A Comedy of Errors, because I was in it, and it’s easy to understand, plus it’s pretty damned funny. When is Benjamin Kritzer going to be in bookstores? Well, it’s online first, for about six weeks, then it’s available for bookstores to order. Whether they will or not is up to each store or chain. However, the process slowed down a bit, because I made a change to the hardcover, and it’s still not available in that form yet (it should be mid-next week). Those who have this first printing will have a genuine rarity if the book ever does anything. There were only 100 copies printed before I made the change and the subsequent fixed copies will have a later date on them. I know you’re all wondering what the change is – it’s quite simple really. If you’ve opened your hardcovers you will notice that it goes directly to the title page. They printers inadvertently left off the front free endpaper and the half-title page. The new version will have that and, as I said, should be up and running and available next week. Do I ever listen to CDs with headphones on? No. Do I like children’s books? I haven’t read a lot of them, but I enjoyed the first Harry Potter book, and the Lemony Snicket books look clever, although I’ve only read a bit of the first one. I like Roald Dahl’s books as well. One of my favorite books is Thurber’s The Last Flower, his sweet and tremendously moving little parable in pictures.

S. Woody White’s ever lovin’ der Brucer asks what our very own Vinnie Cirilli is up to these days. He’s been working, moving into a new house, and keeping busy. I miss Vinnie and I’m certain will be working together again very soon. There is more I would like to say about Mr. Cirilli, but I will save it for the appropriate time. Let us simply say that he has not been treated fairly. Oh, no, he has not been treated fairly by those who should know better.

William F. Orr tells me he has five undecipherable autographs on his Nudie Musical DVD and asks me to identify them. On the right arm: Leslie A…. – Leslie Ackerman, who plays Susie. On the left arm: Buc…. – Bruce Kimmel. Right thigh: Lloqa B… - Lloyd Gordon, dildo and choreographer. Left thigh: Nick R… - Nick Redman, director of the documentary. Star: Me…q Fimley – Greg Finley, who plays one of the backers and also the transvestite mugger. Approximately when did I start and finish writing Benjamin Kritzer? I began the actual writing last May (2001) and finished in mid-November. How did I first get into producing CDs and how did I learn my craft? Well, the first CDs I produced were for Bay Cities, then I moved on to Varese. The Bay Cities CDs were like rehearsals for me. When it came time to do Unsung Sondheim and Liz Callaway, which were recorded back to back, I learned by doing. I talked to a few people, got a few pointers and then basically just did it. Working with the talent was easy – just like directing a film. Working on the arrangements for Unsung Sondheim was easy, too. I devised a way of recording on those two albums that served me well over the years, and which enabled me to do them at a reasonable cost (compared to what other labels would spend to do the same thing). Vinnie and I used to fight like cats and dogs and also dogs and cats, because I could not be articulate in telling him what sound I liked. I’d just say things like, “No, that’s not good – push some buttons.” I’d say by the third album (Toonful) he at least had an idea of what I liked, and we refined things as we went along. Somewhere around the tenth album we got it right, and then it was much easier. Around the fiftieth album, it was a piece of cake and we had a blast – everything was very simple then. When are we going to set the DVD signing at Footlight? Hopefully we will firm a date in the next week or so.

Well, I hope I’ve provided some decent answers to your excellent questions. I hope you’ve gotten your wieners out and are placing them on your various and sundried barbecue machines. I hope you’re all wearing your red, white and blue pantaloons and Uncle Sam pointy hats. Most of all, I hope you will have a safe and sound fourth of July. Do try not to put the firecrackers in your mouth. Today’s topic of discussion: Who are your favorite non-theater female singers? I’ll start: the young Barbra, the young Eydie Gorme, Helen Merrill, Cleo Laine, Rosemary Clooney, Doris Day, Karen Carpenter, Carly Simon, Melissa Manchester, Peggy Lee, Ethel Ennis, Petula Clark, Lulu, well, the list is apparently endless. Your turn.

- Bruce Kimmel



Replies: 29 Unseemly Comments


In Alphabetical Order:
Shirley Bassey
Ann Hampton Callaway
Cher
Rosemary Clooney
Ella Fitzgerald
Aretha Franklin
Judy Garland—for her popular recordings
Annie Golden
Deborah Harry
Jennifer Holliday—for her popular recordings
Cissy Houston
Chrissie Hynde
Mahalia Jackson
Annie Lennox
Darlene Love
Melissa Manchester
Maureen McGovern
Bette Midler—for her popular recordings
Stevie Nicks
Linda Ronstadt
Annie Ross
Grace Slick
Phoebe Snow
Ronnie Spector
Barbra Streisand—for her popular recordings
Tina Turner
Ann Wilson
Nancy Wilson

Posted by freedunit @ 07/04/2002 12:47 AM PST


Here I expected to find more unseemly comments for July 3rd, and we're already on July 4th.

Favorites (in no particular order):

Polly Bergen
Jeri Southern
Teddi King
Marlene Ver Planck
Doris Day (of course)
Rosemary Clooney
Peggy Lee (most definitely)
Young Eydie Gorme
Joanie Sommers
Judy Garland

Posted by Kerry @ 07/04/2002 01:27 AM PST


A SAFE AND HAPPY JULY 4TH

For Hapgood:

The song: Imagine My Surprise

There is one written by Holly Near.

There is another written by
Mitchell Ayres/Aaron Goldmark/Emma La Frenier

If you or any of the readers are interested in finding out who wrote a song it is quite easy. Your can go to the ASCAP or BMI websites. Below are the links to the sites.

http://www.ascap.com

http://www.bmi.com/home.asp

Posted by Michael Shayne @ 07/04/2002 05:07 AM PST


Below are my list are favorite non-theater singers although some cross over ever now and then but I look at them as the cabaret/nightclub genre

In Alphabetical order:

Karen Akers
Shirley Bassey
Barbara Brussell
Ann Hampton Callaway
Eva Cassidy
Petula Clark
Judy Collins
Barbara Cook
Ella Fitzgerald
Roberta Flack
Anne Kerry Ford
Mary Cleere Haran
Diana Krall
Nancy LaMott
Ranee Lee
Susanah Mars
Amanda McBroom
Susanah McCorkle
Maureen McGovern
Linda Purl*
Lisa Richard
Anne Runolfsson
Anna Russell
Joan Ryan
Helen Schneider
Marlene Ver Planck
'Nita Whitaker
Julie Wilson
Sara Zahn

*Her album produced by Bruce was one of the geat surprises of my collecting singers. Afterall these as seeing her as actress I never knew she could sing. A great album all the way.

Posted by Michael Shayne @ 07/04/2002 05:29 AM PST


BK I forgot to ask:

Mary Cleere Haran

Is Cleere the last name or is it Haran if I want to put her alphabetical order. I have have been using Haran, but not wuite sure

Posted by Michae Shayne @ 07/04/2002 05:31 AM PST


to Michael, Mary's last name is Haran. And she is not only a magnificent performer, but one of the sweetest women I have ever had the pleasure of working with an knowing. Trivia - her husband (also a great guy) is Jack Gilford's son.

to BK - The title/text feature on a dvd is when you can hit the title/text button on your remote and the name of the dvd you are watching comes up on the LED display on your player (and also onscreen). Silly feature I know, since you should KNOW what dvd is IN your player.. but it's just interesting that some have it programmed on the dvd and a lot don't. I would think the programming wouldn't take too much space on the actual DVD. So I was wondering if there was some mystery behind why it's done or not. I guess it wasn't done on yours because you didn't even know about it...

Posted by Craig @ 07/04/2002 06:38 AM PST


To Michael Shayne: I'll tell Susannah Mars she has a fan in....well, where the heck are you, anyway? Keep your fingers crossed, because if everything falls into place, Susannah will be starring in a musical of mine early in 2003, and all Hainsies/Kimlets will be invited. I am foaming at the mouth over this prospect (not a pretty sight).

I have already mentioned that probably my favorite female singer in any genre is the tragically underrated Lani Hall (Mrs. Herb Alpert). Why she never had a solo career post-Sergio Mendes is beyond me.

Re: Godzilla. I have two priceless "kids say the darndest things" moments for you. When my eldest son was about three or four, we found that we (his mom and I) had probably been a bit loose with our use of the Deity's name (i.e., G-d), and now our son was using that word with great abandon. So I explained that G-d was very busy and that we should only use His name when we were praying, etc. I also explained to him that that was why in our Hebrew prayers, instead of saying G-d, we said "Adonai", so as to not bother Him unnecessarily. My son thought very deeply for a moment, and then said, "You know what, Dad? That means we should say 'Adonai-zilla' when we're talking about that movie, huh?"

And just this morning, my youngest son, who is three, and who has heard my theological conversations with my eldest son now for a couple of years (my kids are deep thinkers--what can I say?), woke up and immediately said, "Dad, we're ALL part of Godzilla, aren't we?"

HAPPY FOURTH to one and all!!

Posted by JMK @ 07/04/2002 08:18 AM PST


Definition of HEINOUS:

A 3 day (46 episode) marathon of The Twilight Zone and it does NOT include the episode with Susan Gordon (The Fugitive). Well.. you know what I think should happen to the sci-fi channel program executives, don't you freedunit?

Posted by Craig @ 07/04/2002 09:09 AM PST


Are we not allowed to say God on this site?

Posted by Laura @ 07/04/2002 09:38 AM PST


We can say anything we like here at haineshisway.com as long as it is not hurtful to any dear reader. Non-dear readers are, of course, on their own. My goodness, I slept like a log. That's what a massage does to me and yes, Virginia I wrote the notes before going to sleep because I knew I would sleep like a log which, by the way (BTW, in Internet lingo), I did. If you asked any questions after midnight last night, please post them again and I will answer immediately.

I've already put on my red, white and blue Speedos and tight t-shirt and the bird gave me an appreciative wolf-whistle. Yes, the bird does impressions, too.

Posted by bk @ 07/04/2002 09:56 AM PST


I must add Ella Fitzgerald and Gogi Grant, too.

So, today is Independence Day. Is anyone celebrating (or contemplating) any personal sort of independence? Leaving a job you hate, getting divorced, getting a car that works, or just something as silly as appreciating the choices you've made? God only knows (and yes, we can say God) why I'm off on this tangent. Is Dr. Joyce Brothers around?

We can also say "Stuntcock."

Posted by Kerry @ 07/04/2002 10:08 AM PST


BK!

Happy 4th! Well I just watched the Mothman Prophecies and had a comment about your comment about "Mary". To refresh, the movie opens up and you see Richard Gere talking on the phone assumably with a "source" and he says "OK.. so it's with a Y" or something similar. Then they cut to a shot of the paper he is writing on which says "MARY" on it. I think PERHAPS this was bad scripting. Richard Gere's character has a wife named Mary and he is rushing to get out of the office to meet her to go house hunting. I THINK the intention was to portray Gere's character as totally in love that he was thinking about his wife and had written her name while listening to whatever story the person (we don't know if it's a woman) on the other end is telling.

The FATAL mistake was to have him say the letter "Y" - it should have been any OTHER letter NOT in the name MARY if this was the intention. Of course, this could have been an oversight (hard to believe) but I have seen movies where characters actually call another by their real name and not character name and it inadvertantly gets left in. It's worse if that's the case here, as it's the VERY first line of dialogue.

It's an interesting question indeed. What wasn't so interesting was the movie and it's "based on true events" angle. After reading the insert (after I watched the movie) you come to find out that very little of the movie was actually based on real events other than the image of the mothman and an incident in Point Pleasant in the late 60s.

Anyway - I don't know if you finished the movie or not.. but it was fairly predictable and any attempt at suspense failed miserably. And it reaked of familiarity to movies that have already been made that are far superior.

Just my .02

Posted by Craig @ 07/04/2002 11:32 AM PST


P.S. Bruce - did Meltz and Ernest ever write a patriotic song?

Posted by Craig @ 07/04/2002 12:04 PM PST


Where is everybody? Are you all wearing your red, white and blue Speedos? I am about to put wieners on the barbecue - are you? Come now, we must have more partygoers, mustn't we? How can we have the ultimate fireworks display without all dear readers present and accounted for?

Meltz and Ernest, like most Tin Pan Alley tunesmiths before them, did write a patriotic song: THE PATRIOTIC FLAG RAG, a wonderful song in the ragtime mode.

Just see those stars and stripes
And you can have no gripes
Cause we are in the USA.
Red, white and blue unfurled
It says "Hello there, world"
Come see America today!
We've got all colors, creeds and races
We say America's the best of places

It's the patriotic flag rag
It's the rhythm of the flag we call our own.
It's the patriotic flag rag
It's the flag of freedom and it's tightly sewn.
So, step right up
And see it wave
In the land of the free and the home of the brave
It's the patriotic flag rag
And it's waving for you and me
It's the patriotic flag rag
And it's waving for you and me!

Posted by bk @ 07/04/2002 01:05 PM PST


I'd put on my Speedos if I had abs and buns of steel like Bruce. The only way I could put blond highlights in my hair would be to paint my head. So, I'll just have to think summer-- which is not at all difficult when it's 110.

Posted by Kerry @ 07/04/2002 01:16 PM PST


Forgot to mention that I saw Anne Heche's Broadway debut on Tuesday night in PROOF with Neil Patrick Harris and Len Cariou thrown in as well. Heche lived up to my every expectation and casting her may have been the most brilliant idea since Robert Lindsey in Me and My Girl.

If you haven't yet seen the play, by all means do so now. If you have, you will undoubtedly agree with me that Heche makes the part very much her own.

As for singers, there are too many to mention but Linda Purl, Susanah McCorkle, Teddi King, Ella Fitzgerald, Rosemary Clooney, etc. are always good for a listen.

BK, I did a bit more editing on the Together Again CD and have now wrapped it in a package to mail to you. To save me the trouble of searching for it, send me your address again and I'll post it tomorrow.

Posted by Robert Armin @ 07/04/2002 01:17 PM PST


Hello all you Hainsies and Kimlets! It is with the great pride and pleasure that we offer the following fireworks display exclusively for you! Watch and sing along with the Patriotic Flag Rag!

Click here to START the festivities

Posted by The Grucci's @ 07/04/2002 01:18 PM PST


Robert-

You are fortunate indeed to have seen Ms. Heche as she is now out ill. There's a story about it on www.broadway.com

Posted by Craig @ 07/04/2002 01:44 PM PST


Ella Fitzgerald
Dusty Springfield
Peggy Lee
Linda Ronstadt
Barbra Streisand
Eydie Gorme
Karen Carpenter
Patsy Cline
Connie Francis
Brenda Lee
Helen Shapiro
Wendy Matthews

Posted by Tom from OZ @ 07/04/2002 03:14 PM PST


Thank you for the card. Who are the Grucci's?

Posted by Scott @ 07/04/2002 03:17 PM PST


Bruce, thank you for deciphering those signatures. Truth to tell, I kind of recognized yours.

Well, this will be a quiet fourth here at Bill and Joe land, and quite fortunately, too. One of his plethora of sisters is moving to California next month, and she was being very insistent on our going out with her to her inlaws' summer house just beyond (but not in) the Hamptons. Nice idea, but...

This is the hottest day in many a summer. The Hampstons area is bumper-to-bumper most of the summer and especially so now. My car AC is not on the fritz but near to it. The summer house has no AC and, we just learned the new well has been dug but the pump is not hooked up--so no water. Thus the prospect of braving the traffic to enjoy 100°ree; weather without water, but with two toddlers and two untrained dogs... plus Joe's disease which has him flat on his back. Well, I don't think we're going. Not that I don't love my sister-in-law dearly, but, hey we invited them here where we have central air and an acre of woods to enjoy.

So I will be tuning in from time to time to dance a patriotic pudding dance with everyone--even Tom of Oz and you Canadians and Sushi and François, who are all honorary Usonians for the day just so you get some of the ham chunks and cheese slices. And, of course, we expect the same on your own national holidays.

Cleo Laine
Amanda McBroom
Karen Akers
Barbara Cook
early Barbra Streissand
all of whom have done theatre, but...

Carly Simon
Shirley Bassey
Rickie Lee Jones
Joanie Mitchell
Judy Collins
early Joan Baez
Eydie Gorme
Judy Garland
Rosemary Clooney
early Liza Minnelli

and not to forget

Dame Edna Everage

later, possums.

Posted by William F. Orr @ 07/04/2002 04:20 PM PST


Bruce & all and Sun-Dried:

For a couple of hours I couldn't reach haineshisway.com. That's why the post above, which I wrote around noon (9:00 PDT), just got here. Anyone else have this problem? Is Mr. Mark Bakalor in for a you-know-what?

Posted by William F. Orr @ 07/04/2002 04:27 PM PST


William - I had no problems with the site.. maybe a communications error between your "node" and the site - it's not uncommon.

Scott - The Grucci's are perhaps the most famous creators of fireworks displays in the world.

Posted by Craig @ 07/04/2002 04:32 PM PST


Well, Happy 4th to All!!!
(I'm waiting to break open the 5th, myself; and on the 6th of next month, i'll be another year older!)

Favorite Female Singers:
Nancy LaMott
Doris Day
K. T. Oslin
Janis Ian
Jennifer Warnes
Rosemary Clooney
Dinah Washington
Elly Stone
Judy Collins
Judy Garland
Ann-Margret
Alison Moyet
Helen Terry
Cybill Shepherd (Yes! She can talk Memphis to me any ole time!)
and just a few theater-related:
Dame Julie
Betty Buckley
Barbara Cook
Debbie Shapiro Gravitte
Amanda McBroom

Posted by td @ 07/04/2002 04:33 PM PST


I finally saw a video store ad that featured FIRST NUDIE MUSICAL. It was J&R which usually has the best prices in NYC. Unfortunately it was not their ad in the Times or other daily. It was in THE VILLAGE VOICE a paper most known for its sex ads. Still with that title it will probably help sell some copies.

Posted by William E. Lurie @ 07/04/2002 04:46 PM PST


One name I find conspicuously absent from the list of favorites: SARA ZAHN. If you do not own her "Witchcraft" CD, you must obtain it immediately! And then you, like I, can wonder when she'll release a second one...

Posted by Pam @ 07/04/2002 05:38 PM PST


When I posted my alphabetical list of favorite, non-theatre female singers, I knew I must have missed someone, but, of course, I could not remember who. I keep thinking there are several I must have missed. One of them:

Lorna Luft

She has the the most beautiful tone and the best pitch in the family. Her mother remains a peerless legend, and her half-sister the unequivocal star Luft seems never destined to be. Still, Luft is an able musician with an attractive instrument.

Craig, that is simply heinous! I will join you at once for double-team bitch-slapping of Sci-Fi Channel programming executives.

Laura, I believe some of us at this site are allowed to write God and others of us are not. You are allowed.

Kerry, yes, but beware spoonerization.

Posted by freedunit @ 07/04/2002 06:44 PM PST


There is a song called "Imagine My Surprise" by Holly Near.

Its lyrics go:

"Imagine my surprise! I love that I have found you
"But I ache all over wanting to know your every dream
"Imagine my surprise! To find that I love you
"Feeling warm all over knowing that you've been alive

"Pirates off an Eastern Coast
"Women you lived in danger
"But I hear your laughter free of petticoats
"No need for foolish chivalry
"Though you're living in the eighteenth century
"You make love to each other on your boats out on the sea

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 07/04/2002 09:49 PM PST


Hi all!

Many, many good names posted already (Ella, Ann Callaway, Rosemary Clooney, Bette Midler, Linda Ronstadt, Barbra Streisand). Excellent selections all, but one rings a lot for me:

Nancy LaMott

First heard her while on a business trip to NOLA, quickly picked up all of her CD's. A wonderful talent who left us too soon.

Also Liz Callaway, who does as much justice to bdwy & pop as his sister does for jazz (loved her medley from "Promises, Promises").

BK - I know I'm a day late, but your question spurs one of my own: What female vocalists would you most like to work with?
Please name two (one living, one dead).

Posted by Phil @ 07/05/2002 06:20 AM PST





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