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08/08/2002:
"AT THE COPA"

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bk's notes II

Well, dear readers, there is something heinous (heinous, do you hear me?) going on. Yes, you heard it here, dear readers, there is something heinous (heinous, do you hear me?) going on and I shall speak of it and expose it right here and now and also right now and here. Someone has hacked our webaddress here at haineshisway.com (or rather my e-mail address link) and is sending out virus-laden e-mails which appear as if they’re coming from bruce@haineshisway.com. Well, let me assure you they are most certainly not coming from here (a simple look at the headers will tell you the truth), nor have I ever had a virus on this computer. No, someone else has a virus on their computer and that someone else most likely had this address in their e-mail address book, and now that virus has picked up all those names and is sending out more viruses as if they were coming from those names. As it’s been explained to me, it does this to cover its originator’s tracks, and is like a big daisy chain that just gets worse and worse and more endless. So, if you get something from bruce@haineshisway.com do not open it if it has an attachment. First of all, I never send attachments from that address – in fact, I never send anything from that address. That’s how you know it’s bogus – that is merely a link to a normal e-mail address with my usual ISP. In fact, this has been happening for a week or two, and I immediately forwarded it to our handy-dandy webmaster, Scott, but he told me then that they are definitely not coming from here. He also told me that it was most likely not a hack job, that someone was putting our name in the “from” field. I found that news pretty interesting, and then I got a bounced-back e-mail and I looked at the headers and at the bottom was an “apparently from” header, and I recognized the name. When telling one of our dear readers about this rather shocking news, he told me that that is how viruses work, that that person most likely has a virus on their computer that is doing this – or they could have even been a victim of someone else with a virus. Of course, there’s always the off-chance that they could have done this on purpose, but that doesn’t really make sense to me and I think it’s one of these other scenarios.

In any case, I have made it a rule of thumb (I've also made it a rule of ear and a rule of elbow) to never open an attachment from anyone ever, even if it’s from a name I recognize, unless a) I have been told it’s coming and what it is or, b) I confirm via e-mail that they’ve sent it and what it is. I must tell you that if it’s b, never once have I even gotten a response (if I e-mail the person asking them what the attachment is). I recommend all of you do the same. I say this because one of our dear readers got one of these disgusting things and because it was from here tried to open it. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again – what thrill do these stupid idiots get from causing this trouble? Do they covertly walk around thinking, “Ooh, today I really got thousands of people by sending out viruses that will screw up their computers.” I mean, what kind of psycho losers are these people. They’ve been doing this for years, these virus people, but they’re getting worse and worse and more sophisticated at hacking innocent people’s addresses. Just know that you should always check the headers when getting it, find the root if you can and then send something to abuse at that domain.

I shall now get off my box of soap and back to today’s regularly scheduled notes, which are of the long and winding notes variety, or perhaps even the long and winding notes Hollywood Reporter.

Last night I watched a DVD, which I just got an advance copy of. It contained a made-for-television motion picture entitled Copacabana, starring Mr. Barry Manilow and my pal, Annette O’Toole. I’d somehow missed this when it was originally shown in 1985, and I’ve somehow continued to miss it over the years. I do know there was a stage version done, and I myself recorded two songs from it for my Prime Time Musicals album, Who Needs to Dream (sung by Christiane Noll) and Man Wanted (sung by Jolie Jenkins). Well, may I just say first and foremost, I like Barry Manilow, and I’ve always liked Barry Manilow and if that makes me an old poop then I’m afraid I’m an old poop. In fact, I like him so much that I once did a rather wicked spoof of him for a cable comedy show called Likely Stories, which is wicked and affectionate at the same time. So, I was predisposed to enjoy Copacabana. Unfortunately, all the predisposition in the world could not have prepared me for what I witnessed. May we just say that while Mr. Barry Manilow is charming and fun, he is not an actor, although he tries mightily to be one which, of course, is part of the problem. He is simply goony in this telefilm, some of which is fine and lots of which is not. The script, by that master of ooze, Mr. James Lipton (he of Inside the Actor’s Studio) is filled with one risible scene after another – all unintentionally hilarious (I actually fell off my couch howling at one point because I could not believe I was hearing and seeing what I was hearing and seeing). It’s one gigantic cliché, all “adapted” from the song and lyrics of Barry’s hit, Copacabana. Joseph Bologna, as Rico Castelli, is so horrid it’s unbelievable. I’ve never seen him give less than an okay performance, but this one belongs in the cliché pantheon. It’s mostly a period piece which seems to be set in the early forties – and yet Barry lets loose with one of his big power ballads in the streets of New York (all on a backlot) and it’s so out of place and so shoehorned in, it’s just impossible not to laugh (especially given its inept direction and staging). My pal Annette O’Toole is a marvel, however, as she always is, plus she gets to sing, and she’s the saving grace of this sorry enterprise. One of my favorite things was the location of where she works, at The Glass Slipper Dance Hall at 43rd and Broadway. When you see the backlot street and set, you will know how truly ludicrous this whole thing is. The supporting roles are not especially well-cast, which is also problematic. I kept thinking, maybe it’s camp, but it’s not, it’s just bad. They’re really trying to be serious and give it depth but they do it in all the wrong ways. And then there’s the infamous La Bravo number, which Bologna is going to resurrect at his famous Havana nightclub, starring his new obsession, Lola. He describes this number as the most famous nightclub number in history. Well, it’s so mind-bogglingly awful in every way, it’s amazing. It could not be more mind-bogglingly awful. The minute you see the “boys” dressed as pirates, with their dance belts run amok, you know what land you are in and it’s not Kansas. The excellent Grover Dale provided the not excellent choreography. From that point on, it just gets sillier and sillier as Barry “rescues” Lola from Havana, in one ineptly filmed scene after another. Along the way, we do get to see Barry perform several numbers (I do like the totally wrong for the period, Sweet Heaven, which he does in white tie and tails as a Copa headliner), although the music production, despite its pedigreed people, sounds surprisingly cheap. Barry’s hair also gets larger and larger as the show goes on – it’s positively huge by the end. It’s a must-have DVD – I think it comes out relatively soon and you simply must have it whether you own a DVD player or not.

What am I, Ebert and Roeper all of a sudden? I should see if Mr. Mark Bakalor, the most errant and truant human being on the face of the planet, can put up a video or sound clip from my Barry spoof, entitled Barry in Concert. I play Barry (in white tie and tails, big shoes, and big hair), singing his greatest hits, including this one:

His name was Marvin,
He was a show girl
Yes, he wore panties and wore hose
Couldn’t get enough of those
And he was cute as hell
And that is why I fell

At the Ramrod
Down there on Highland
It was an island full of sleaze
Everybody on their knees.
At the Ramrod,
Down there on Highland
Tight jeans and tight buns
You might find the right buns
At the Ramrod!
You get it all…

Well, these really are getting to be the long and winding notes, aren’t they? And we haven’t even gotten to the answers to your excellent questions yet. So, let’s all click on the Unseemly Button below whilst singing, “Her name was Lola, she was a showgirl.”

Well, we have many questions for which I shall provide many answers, so we may as well get right down to the long and winding answers.

William E. Lurie asks when I see an older musical do I prefer a revival or revisal. Unless something is really untoward in the original, I prefer the original, unless, like the upcoming Flower Drum Song, they tell you it’s basically a whole different show. I detested Annie Get Your Gun – I’m sorry but that show doesn’t need Peter Stone’s help, just as Peter Stone’s 1776 doesn’t need anyone else’s help.

Jason asks if someone were to write a musical about your life, using only pre-existing theater music, what overture would I want for “my” show? Well, I’m not sure what you’re asking, so I’ll just say that for “my” show I’d like the overture from 110 In The Shade. What song would I want for my Act One Finale? Everything’s Coming Up Roses, of course. Or, if I’m feeling defiant (which I am), And I Am Telling You I Am Not Going. What composer/lyricist would I ask to write my Act Two Finale? Hmmm. Maybe Jule Styne and Comden and Green, maybe the Gershwins, or maybe Mr. Berlin. Would my show be a comedy or a melodrama. Well, I’ve certainly had some of both let me tell you, but comedy wins out every time. What living actor would I want to play me in my me show? Well, that’s tough, isn’t it? Someone dashing, someone vibrant, someone charismatic, someone sexy, someone… oh, very well, I shall play me!

JMK asks if I can define “anamorphic” in easy-to-understand language, and also which processes utilize it. Well, I’m not sure I can do anything in easy-to-understand language, but I’ll give it a whirl and a twirl. Cinemascope was the first mainstream process to use anamorphic lenses. These lenses would “squeeze” the image onto standard 35mm film. In other words, if you looked at the actual film, the actors or scenery would appear thin and elongated. That film, when projected with an anamorphic lens, gets “unsqueezed” and wide, with everyone looking their proper proportion. All true widescreen processes that used anamorphic lenses worked like that, be it Cinemascope, Panavision, Franscope, Tohoscope or whatever. 1:85:1 which is the standard widescreen process is not anamorphic and not squeezed. Super 35 is a different kind of widescreen process, which I don’t totally understand, but which does not involve anamorphic lenses for filming. JMK also asks if I’ve seen any of the “thumb” movie parodies? Nope – I’ve seen the DVD packages but not the films themselves.

William F. Orr asks what kind of car I drive? I drive an Infiniti I30, which I am very very very (that is three verys) fond of. What was my major in college? Theater Arts. Would I like to direct more movies. Yes, I would, and if all goes according to Hoyle, yes I will be. I will have more news on this front very soon indeed. Have I ever had a pet? Yes, I had a dog named Sandy, who I found abandoned in a used record store in 1979. Have I ever traveled outside the US and if so, where? I am ashamed to say I have never been to Europe, but that will change soon, I’m hoping. I have been to Toronto and Montreal, if that counts.

Jed asks when I play a CD at home, how often do I listen to one that I produced? Practically never, unless I’m having a massage, in which case I occasionally play Sax and Violence, my film noir album. If I were to do another “in Jazz” album with Terry Trotter what show’s score would we like to tackle next? Well, we’d both like to do one more Sondheim album, with songs from all the shows we didn’t do, like Into the Woods, Sunday in the Park, Pacific Overtures, Evening Primrose, etc.

Dolores formerly Lolita asks what is the most unseemly thing I have ever heard? Well, when we were shooting The Creature Wasn’t Nice, Mr. Leslie Nielsen had his device with him at all times, said device being a flatulence sounder. Every five minutes or so he would use it (even in scenes we were shooting!) and the sound of passing gas would ring out all over the sound stage. That was fairly unseemly. I remember Patrick Macnee coming up to me and saying, “Dear boy, does Leslie have stomach problems?” What is my favorite rhyme from a lyric? Oh, there are too many, but You Must Meet My Wife is loaded with great rhymes and a brilliant rhyming pattern, and so is Please Hello from Pacific Overtures. What do I think of M. Night Shyamalan and will I see Signs in the theater or wait for the DVD? I was, I guess, one of the few people who “got” The Sixth Sense within ten minutes of its opening. I did enjoy it, but did not find it brilliant. I’m also one of the few who enjoyed his second film, Unbreakable. It was also not brilliant but there was something I liked about it. I’ll probably see Signs at a screening of some sort.
Am I a list person? Do you mean do I list to the left or right? Sometimes I do, I just stand leaning one way or another. I had a teacher in college who did that and one day he just fell over. I don’t make lists, if that’s what you mean. Am I a notebook person? Not really – I’m more of a legal pad person. Am I a human person? I’ve had my moments. Have I ever heard of a “man purse” and would I consider using one? If you mean those little bags that go around the waist, no I would not. I don’t like extraneous things on my person. I wear no jewelry for that very reason. Clothing, yes, but not things that are too too too (that is three toos, which might be considered a six) bulky and cumbersome. Finally, what do I think are important issues and where do I stand on them? Well, I thought my daughter was an important issue, although I don’t recall ever standing on her. I think living in a sane world is an important issue and that’s where I stand on it. I think loyalty is an important issue and that’s where I stand on it. I think stamping out evil is an important issue and I’m firmly for stamping and stomping it wherever it resides.

Dave asks given my penchant for wordplay, do I like puns? I couldn’t say that I’m in love with them, no. I did used to enjoy saying that I produced 130 albums in eight years and that had to be some kind of record. What is my opinion of Miss Betty Buckley? Well, I enjoyed her in Triumph of Love. I have heard horror stories from those who have worked with her that she can be a very peculiar sort, but I like her voice when she is simple and doesn’t stomp a song to death with overkill or too much “meaning”. Of all the singers I have worked with over the years, who would I rank as the top five pure singers – male and female – singers who have the best pitch, intonation, diction and overall vocal quality. That’s a hard one, because I sometimes like singers who may not be as perfect as what you describe, but who connect with a song in very special ways. That said, I’d have to rank Liz Callaway at the top – she can do anything. Kristin Chenoweth has an extraordinary instrument. Rebecca Luker as well. Christiane Noll is not chopped liver (well, I don’t know that for a fact) and Alet Oury was (and probably is) a wonder. But I’ve really liked everyone I’ve worked with for the most part. Of the men, I haven’t worked with all that many, but I think Brent Barrett is great, as is Jason Graae and Norm Lewis. Given that I work with great singers, do I find that I need to do any tweaking of the vocals on any of my albums? Sure, I do as many takes as I need to until I feel I have enough material to make an absolutely perfect take. If that’s one take, that’s great. If it’s three or four then I comp the vocal, sometimes just using one take for the basis and putting in occasional lines, sometimes alternating lines often, sometimes going word by word if I have to, and I’ve even replaced the second half of a syllable. I’m maniacal about vocals, and that’s why singers trust me and like to work with me, because they know I will protect them and make the best vocal that’s possible. When we do tweak, it’s always totally seamless and there is no way to tell what we’ve done, and the singers invariably think they sang it that way in one take. As for pitch, I don’t use a pitch controller often, but I wouldn’t say that I’ve never used it. Of all the many hats I wear, if I could wear only one which would it be? That’s too damn hard. For the last eight years, I was willing to put aside all hats except for record producing because I love doing that. It’s actually a combination of everything I love, because when I do an album, I produce, I direct, I write arrangements, I conceive albums, I cast – it’s like making movies for the ear. But writing my book made me realize how much I missed writing and I loved that experience and have been writing a lot lately. I also love directing dearly, although I don’t know if dearly loves being directed by me. Acting I can live without, and thankfully Guy Haines has usurped my singing career (he’s much better than I am).

Michael Shayne has several questions: Will I continue the online bio I was writing, better known as “The Story”. I don’t think so, as fascinating as it all is, it ultimately is a negative and I don’t want to dwell on negative things. Even when I began telling it, I was in a foul mood every time I sat down to write it. So, my guess is no. If I were to write my bio to appear in Playbill what would it say? Well, I like the bio that appears in the back of Benjamin Kritzer, so probably that would do. What credit would I omit? Well, I’ve never listed Prime Suspect in any bio. If I were to have a dinner what musical theater (or film) characters would I invite and why? Oy. Mama Rose, Tevye, John Adams (just so I could say, Sit down, John), Gelsomina (with translator), Ella Peterson, Gigi, Madame Armfelt, Annie Oakley, Molly Brown and Peter Pan. That would be a fine and interesting gathering. Same question with real people (producers, writers, performers, directors, etc.): Well, let’s see – Steve Sondheim, Schmidt and Jones, Dorothy Loudon, Lauren Bacall, Jason Graae, Harold Prince, Tony Walton, Bernadette Peters, Alice Ripley and Kander and Ebb. Finally, would it be possible to have a chat room here at haineshisway.com? We discussed it early on and decided it would be problematic for a number of reasons – that’s why we went with the posting system that we have. But I have been thinking about having some kind of monthly “event” live chat – and we’re looking into that right now. Let me know your thoughts, dear readers.

Ron Pulliam asks if I am going to start a new label and if so what will it be called? Well, the thought has obviously crossed my mind and I have a standing offer of major distribution should I do so. I don’t know what the future holds in that regard, but I would say it is certainly a possibility. I have several projects in the works right now and am waiting to find out if all of them are going to go. Let us all keep our digits crossed. Did I ever resolve the issue with the animal corpses at my doorstep? Well, it’s happened twice, but hasn’t happened since the last time I reported it. How about the dead flying things in the bathroom? Those are still there, but not very much anymore. Just two or three, so whatever the problem was seems to have righted itself.

Kerry mentions that there is at least one other hidden track (other than the ones Michael Shayne mentioned) on my albums – I’ll go look, but off the top of my head I can tell you there’s one on Cole Porter: A Musical Toast (although I don’t really consider it one of my true hidden tracks) – okay, here are the others I’ve found (including one I’d totally forgotten about!): The Paul Simon Album (a great hidden track with Jane Krakowski and Lauren Kennedy doing a rap version of 50 Ways to Leave Your Lover), Bells Are Ringing (Faith Prince horsing around with the band), Cinderella (Bibbity Bobbity Boo sung by Michelle Nicastro), and the one I’d forgotten about – Monster Mania (my Godzilla album – a great album of Godzilla themes – there’s a heavy metal Godzilla song as the hidden track). Kerry keeps hoping I’ll produce a CD of various male actors and singers, using my usual troupe of wonderful guys. If I were to record such a CD which songs would I use and what would the title of the album be? Well, that would take a lot of thought, and besides we don’t want to give away good ideas, do we? If I could play any role in A Chorus Line, which would it be (assuming I would be in the appropriate age range and could do the dancing – in other words, a fantasy question)? Well, Bobby is fun – but the easiest would be Zach, so I could just sit in the back of the theater and read my lines off a paper.

Jeff Krispow posted a very nice post about my film Naked Space, aka Spaceship, aka The Creature Wasn’t Nice and asks if I could and would ever put out a special edition DVD of the standard release version and my cut (which was only seen in a handful of previews). I would love to do so, because I feel it would vindicate the film a bit, and also really surprise people how different two versions of the same film can be. All I can say is, be careful what you wish for, because talks are going on and it is a real possibility.

Craig has his usual plethora of questions: If I were writing a stage musical of The Silence of the Lambs what would some of the song titles be and can I give us a lyric from the big 11:00 number for Hannibal. Well, I don’t know how these things get out, but it so happens I am writing such a musical and therefore am not at liberty to divulge any titles or lyrics. Have I ever had the chance to invest in a show, movie, etc. and didn’t and it turned out that the profit off the investment would have set me up with so much fish? Well, not a show or a film, no. But I did have a chance to own a third of Varese Sarabande (back in 1978) for $2500. I passed. Oh, well. Also, I was one of the first to know that eBay was going public, and I could have purchased shares for eighteen bucks. I happened to have had a good deal of cash lying around because at that time we’d just gotten paid for The Faculty. I’d never invested in any stock in my life, so I didn’t do it. Eight weeks later it was at over four hundred dollars a share. Now, the thing is, if I had bought it, I think I probably would have sold it when it hit twenty-five dollars – in other words, I wouldn’t have had the guts to hold out and see how far it went. Had I bought and had I had guts, I’d be a multi-millionaire today. What are my favorite rhymes from showtunes – I answered this earlier. What are some of my favorite movie quotes of all time? Most of the usual suspects. Perhaps my all-time favorite is from Ride The High Country (“All I want to do is enter my house justified”) but I also adore the whole “Chalice from the palace” bit from The Court Jester (actually that movie is one great quote fest – get it, got it, good), Casablanca has many of my favorite lines, and you can just run any Billy Wilder picture because no one writes more quotable dialogue than he and his various collaborators. Craig would like to know about the women behind Meltz and Ernest. I do think I mentioned them briefly – I’ll have to go back and look. Both were married for many years – but all that will be revealed very soon, I promise you. If I could create something that could make my life easier what would it be? A perpetual ATM machine from which I could endlessly withdraw cash whether I had money or not. That would be spiffy. What is my favorite kind of fruit? I’m not a fan of fruit, but I do enjoy various and sundried melons, and I enjoy cherries and red seedless grapes. What are my thoughts on Michel Legrand (who is finally going to have a show on Broadway – musical directed by our very own Todd Ellison)? I adore Michel Legrand (did you know I did an album of all Legrand material with Terry Trotter?), I think he’s a brilliant composer and his melodies are always surprising and sublime. I met him once, and he was charming and lovely and very down-to-earth. What was the last thing that made me laugh uncontrollably? Well, as I said earlier, Copacabana had me on the floor.

Tom from Oz asks what are my favorite Noel Coward songs, and have I discovered any more Ivor Novello songs since discovering them in Gosford Park. No to the latter question, although I’ve been listening to the Gosford Park soundtrack regularly. As to Noel Coward it would take too long a list, so I’ll just say If Love Were All is one of my all-time favorite songs, and I do adore the title song from Sail Away. I recorded the cast album of If Love Were All with Twiggy and Harry Groener and I did love all the songs in that show.

Well, dear readers, if your question came in too late for me to answer, please reask it again next week. For now, I must take the day, do the things I do, put on my Barry hair, my white tie and tails and sing Sweet Heaven. Today’s topic of discussion: What are your favorite Barry Manilow songs and when did you first become aware of him and, if you’re a fan, what song made you become one? I’ll start: I love all his early hits – but I especially love Weekend in New England by Randy Edelman, a beautiful song. But I became a Barry fan from his very first hit, Mandy. Your turn.

- Bruce Kimmel



Replies: 45 Unseemly Comments


Having admitted I am Barry fan and bought the "Ultimate Manilow" compilation (and realizing I knew every damn song on it) -- I would say the music he wrote to Johnny Mercer's lyrics for Nancy Wilson's "When October Goes" album is of the highest order. I first became aware of him with "Mandy" of course because I am old enough to remember these things.

Posted by Philip Crosby @ 08/08/2002 09:23 AM PST


When did I first fall in love with Barry's music? Geez...I dunno. Picture it: Bookham, England, 1981. My family and I were living in Great Britain thanks to my father's fabulous job with Kentucky Fried Chicken (yes, you read correctly) and some friends from home flew out to visit us. With them they brought Barry's album of greatest hits and I remember sitting in the living room while they ate (probably fried chicken) and I simply couldn't stop listening to "I Write the Songs." "Copacabana" always scared me because of the screaming Lola, but I soon got past that and now I am a true-blue Barry Manilow fan (much to the chagrin of my mother who, to my horror, calls him Barry Fagilow). I even have a recording of the stage production of Copacabana, though I admit it's only been listened to once.

I would say that my favorite Barry tunes are:

"Copacabana," "I Write the Songs," "Mandy," "Somewhere in the Night," "Could This Be Magic?," "I Made it Through the Rain," and "Even Now."

And if we could only discuss Olivia Newton-John, I'd be in late-70's music heaven...

Posted by Jason @ 08/08/2002 09:28 AM PST


Could it be? Am I the first poster today?

I was a Manilow fan when I was (much) younger, and still enjoy some of his earlier material. A few of my favourites would be "This One's for You", "Weekend in New England" and "Could This Be Magic".

Something else Bruce and I have in common is that we both "got" the Sixth Sense within the first ten minutes. I did not see the film in the theatre, but rented it and watched it at home with my wife (who had already seen it). After about 20 minutes, we paused the video to go make popcorn, and on the way to the kitchen I told her how I thought the movie might end, and asked if I was right. She just looked at me in shock, but wouldn't tell me if I was right or not. I watched the rest of the movie believing that it couldn't be so obvious as that, and began to contrive a different ending. When the conclusion came, I was disappointed, because my ending would have been better.

Like Bruce, I also liked Unbreakable. Given that we seem to have the same "sense" for Mr. Shyamalan, I think that he would like Signs, as I enjoyed it more than somewhat.

Posted by Dave @ 08/08/2002 09:30 AM PST


Back to Coprophilia
What earned the coprophiliac high marks in booster club?
His esprit de crap.

François: Je regrette que je ne regrette rien.

Barry Manilow: The medley of commercial jingles. Greatest Hits.

Posted by freedunit @ 08/08/2002 09:42 AM PST


My favorite Barry song has got to be "Weekend in New England". I like them all, though. Insidently, I can't wait to see Copacabana on DVD, but in the same breath, I can say that the worst two hours or so I've ever spent in the theatre was when I saw "Copacabana - the Musical", I was very curious as to how bad it was after I read the reviews and heard the reviews from my friends. It isn't even silly and fun. Oh well, I still love Barry's music.

"You know I can't smile without you...."

Posted by Matthew @ 08/08/2002 09:42 AM PST


I can't smile without you...
I can't laugh and I can't sing...
I'm finding it hard to do anything.

Posted by Jason @ 08/08/2002 10:07 AM PST


I liked Barry Manilow best when he was Bette Midler's piano player. She was at her best then too, doing a wide variety of styles. Once she became a pop diva and began recording mostly songs not worthy of her, she lost something. But the old Bette/Barry combination was wonderful. As for Barry-without-Bette, I prefer the less over-produced solos such as "All the Time". Actually, a little Barry goes a long way.

By the way, to prevent someone going into your e-mail address book and sending to everyone on your list, create a false first listing. Name it 000 (that's the digit zero, not the letter) and use an e-mail address that does not exist. This will be the first name in your list and when it gets sent back the virus will not continue with your list.

Also a good anti-virus program like Norton Anti-Virus will alert you if any of your e-mails contain a virus before you open them.

Posted by William E. Lurie @ 08/08/2002 10:12 AM PST


Here's a strange conundrum...as if there's any other kind...

I just downloaded several CDs onto Real Player so that I wouldn't have to bring my discs with me to work anymore, and when I downloaded my "Haines His Way" disc, all the tracks showed up as Track 1 or Track 2. Well...I downloaded The Phantom of the Opera (The Original Mexican Cast Recording) and now, all of Guy Haines' tracks are called by the titles of songs from Phantom. That probably makes no sense...that's why it's a conundrum.

Posted by Jason @ 08/08/2002 10:31 AM PST


I thought of a few more...

"Looks Like We Made It"
"Trying to Get the Feeling Again"
"Even Now"

Side note: I am currently directing a production of THE SCARLET PIMPERNEL, and whenever the chorus is singing the title song and gets to the lines "this plucky ne'er-do-well, this lucky bloody swell...", I am always reminded of a similar musical phrase in "This One's For You". Is it just me, or do you hear it, too?

Posted by Dave @ 08/08/2002 10:49 AM PST


Gee, I liked Barry Manilow back in high school. But that's been so long ago I don't even remember much about the songs. My sister had a cd called Barry Manilow Sings Frank Sinatra (or some such thing) that we enjoyed while driving to Vegas a couple years ago. Also, I came across an 8-track Manilow tape a few weeks ago while cleaning out a closet.

Posted by Laura @ 08/08/2002 12:20 PM PST


Laura: It's about time Barry came out of that closet...

(Remember...groaning is not allowed at HainesHisWay.com)

Posted by Jason @ 08/08/2002 12:22 PM PST


Well, I have to admit I'm feeling a little left out. My question about lamb dining wasn't answered. And since I wasn't asking for myself, but for my ever-lovin' der Brucer, whose birthday it is today, I really don't know what to do. He's sitting here, dressed very nicely and spiffy like a spruced Bruce, waiting for his lamb dinner, and there is none to be had. Poor little lamb.

Manilow? I'd say he hit my radar about the time of Mandy. Strange, since the only person I know of named Mandy is Patinkin, which gives the song a whole different spin.

Posted by S. Woody White @ 08/08/2002 12:35 PM PST


First off I think we should put on our pointy party hats and raise our voices in a hearty:

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, EVER-LOVIN' DER BRUCER!--even if you do leave all the posting to S. Woody White.

And then, Jason, you became a Manilow fan (or a Fanilow) at the age of 5 by my calculations. Is that correct?

So far nobody has included my favorite Barry song, "The Toilet Bowl Blues".

freedunit: Happy to have you with us again. Did you know, I gave a party in Paris, and nobody showed up? Edith Piaf didn't even send her regrets. (Miss Otis did, however.)

Posted by William F. Orr @ 08/08/2002 01:05 PM PST


William F. Orr: You are correct, sir! Yes, I was but a babe when I first heard the conga-driven beat of Copacabana.

"Boy the way Glenn Miller played
Songs that made the hit parade...
Gee, our old LaSalle ran great...
Those were the daaaayysss!!"

Posted by Jason @ 08/08/2002 01:18 PM PST


I, too, love most of the songs mentioned abovy by Barry Manilow, although all my Manilow albums are in storage (LP albums). For some reason, I have no Manilow on CD.

I do recall a time when I had to ask myself which I preferred -- "Mandy" or "Brandy."

And "Brandy" won hands down, for some reason:

Brandy, you're a fine girl
What a good wife you would be
But my life, my love and my lady
Is the sea....

I'm guessing it was the Navy influence on me!

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/08/2002 01:40 PM PST


Apologies to S. Woody White - sometimes when I'm cutting and pasting the questions I miss one. I don't love lamb although as a child I really liked lamb chops - so, lamb chops are how I like lamb prepared, not that I've had it any other way. I probably haven't even had lamb chops since I was twelve.

It's interesting that even though we've dropped in the number of posts, traffic is hugely up, best we've ever had. So, let's not look puny here, we need posts and more posts. If you're through with the topic of discussion, discuss whatever you like, that's the point. I've been listening to the cast album of Copacabana, in honor of having watched the DVD last night. It's pretty bad.

Posted by bk @ 08/08/2002 01:50 PM PST


Have follwed Barry M's career since the early days. Saw him in '78 in Forest Hills, again in the late 80's during his first Bdwy tour. Have all the albums on CD (including some only available as Japanese imports - ouch!), which is a truly large number of Barry CD's in the drawer (as opposed to the closet)

Favorite songs?

I Am Your Child
One Voice
Ships
Gonzo Medley

Anything on Paradise Cafe (when the critics realized Barry had talent)

Most anything on Here At The Mayflower" - a song cycle much in the vein of the Sinatra albums of the fifties. Not finger snapping stuff - it takes a while to get into this material.

Posted by Phil @ 08/08/2002 02:24 PM PST


Mr. Jason H. Bratton: I visited the Poop: The Musical website and listened to the cuts, etc. But there is no information on how to obtain the demo CD. Is it possible? I would love to play it for my in-laws, as it concerns their favorite dinner-table conversation topic.

Ron Pulliam: "The Ladies will now retire to the Drawing Room to freshen up, while the Gentlemen enjoy Brandy and Cigars in the Billiard Room, after which Brandy may rejoin the Ladies."

Posted by William F. Orr @ 08/08/2002 02:25 PM PST


And how could I forget "And When October Goes"??? If I ever get to do a cabaret act, this one's in there!

Posted by Phil @ 08/08/2002 02:26 PM PST


Hello everyone! Due to my extremely hectic schedule this week, the next Broadway Radio Show will need to be an Encore Presentation. So, I need all of you to email me with your suggestions of past shows you'd like to hear again. I will try and pull together a random list of past shows and post them here tomorrow, but, in the meantime, please email me with any of your particular favorites. Sorry about no new show, but I do have a phone an interesting phone interview tentatively planned for this weekend which will make for a wonderful upcoming show.

Thanks, everyone!

DONALD

Posted by Donald @ 08/08/2002 02:27 PM PST


Mr. William F. Orr: Should you wish to obtain a demo recording of Poop: The Musical! The Life and Times of Thomas Crapper you may do so by writing to the composer/co-lyricist, Mr. Joe Major. I'll email his email address to you. If anyone else is interested in a demo recording of Poop!, please let me know.

Posted by Jason @ 08/08/2002 03:03 PM PST


Dear BK: Appology accepted. Sorry you haven't had much lamb, as it can be a very good meat.

Which leads me to another subject. Food TV is planning a marathon showing of Alton Brown's "Good Eats" series, and is asking viewers to vote on their favorite episodes. This is over at FoodTV.com and then follow over to TV Personalities, Alton Brown. Along the way, there are links to all the recipies from all the episodes that have ever been broadcast, so I've been very busy printing them out and putting them in a handy dandy binder. One of the recipies is for "Silence of the Leg O' Lamb," where he grills a boned leg o' lamb (well, duh!), with lots of garlic and rosemary and mint and Dijon, and it sounds very very good. Brown is also inclined to call his stuff by names like "Raymond Beurre Blanc" and "The Once and Future Beans," a very good-sounding baked beans recipe. So, if anyone out there has all kinds of time and printer paper, do like I do and start your printers! (Brown is also the author of "I'm Just Here For the Food," a very clever bestselling cookbook that I highly recommend, especially if you like to know they whys and hows of cooking.)

A question for Mr. Orr, in his response to Mr. Pulliam: Are we to assume that Cigars is an English Sheepdog, perhaps?

Posted by S. Woody White @ 08/08/2002 03:11 PM PST


I enjoy "Good Eats" almost as much as I enjoy "Trading Spaces!" Almost. Alton Brown has some kind of weird cuteness about him. I guess its the dork factor that I so heavily rely upon. :-) I particularly enjoyed his baked beans episode as well as how to make an apple pie.

Posted by Jason @ 08/08/2002 03:22 PM PST


Sorry to post again so soon, but speaking of apple pies....did anyone else hear the news that they've signed on to make "American Pie 3?" Isn't that just what the world needs? Pardon me while I purge...

Posted by Jason @ 08/08/2002 03:23 PM PST


Jason: Thanks.

S. Woody White: :-/

Jason: Thinks haven't been the same since they stopped making Porky's sequels.

Posted by William F. Orr @ 08/08/2002 03:43 PM PST


"Mandy" was the first Manilow I heard. I thought to myself "What is this.....fish?" (or something to that effect). There had already been a hit recording of the song "Brandy" by Scott English the year before. Same song. (Not the Looking Glass song referred to above by Ron). Mandy was not as good. I also preferred The Carpenters singing (first again) "Can't Smile Without You". First song I liked of Manlow's was "Weekend In New England". I do like his duet with Barbara Cook.

Posted by Tom from OZ @ 08/08/2002 04:01 PM PST


Today is a red letter day, although this will probably be in black. Chocolate cake for all.

Thank you Bruce for the answers.

I never saw the television special of "Copacobana." I'll have to check it out.

Barry Manilow. Well, the first song of his I liked was "Weekend In New England." I was never all that big on "Mandy" (although I like Irving Berlin's "Mandy" --especially with Vera Ellen dancing to it.) or "I Write the Songs." (I do like the bridge with its George Martin-esque orchestration and counter melody, though). I love "Even Now," "I Made It Through the Rain," "All the Time" and "Copacobana." I also like "One Voice," but I think my favorite song of his is "Ready to Take A Chance Again."

All these songs though are so tied in to the times they were popular and what I was doing during those times.

I'm mainly glad that Barry Manilow is still around and still making money. It became so chic for awhile to bash Barry Manilow, so it's nice to see him outlasting all those bashers.

Posted by Kerry @ 08/08/2002 04:30 PM PST


Cigars? -- Sheepdog?

Brandy? -- Rejoin the ladies?

Ahhh....smut!

Now things are livening up!

:\

Why I oughta......

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/08/2002 04:34 PM PST


I was watching "Mr. Deeds Goes to Town" on AMC this afternoon -- and they ran the entire film without a single break...until just at the end as Jean Arthur sits weeping in the deserted court room, not knowing if Deeds will ever forgive her. Suddenly, there's a break for commercial, lots of promos and then the start of "Back Story: Wall Street" -- the rest of the Capra classic was totally forgotten about!

Except by me...I wrote a very irate complaint via e-mail! AMC has gone down the toilet in the past year and I, for one, don't appreciate it! "American Classic Movies" indeed!

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/08/2002 04:44 PM PST


What? No one has posted in the last hour?

A few aspersions get cast about Brandy and the nature of sheepdogs and everyone crawls into the wood(work)s?

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/08/2002 05:45 PM PST


OK, OK, I'm posting. I thought of another Barry Manilow song: "It's Just Another New Year's Eve."

Posted by Kerry @ 08/08/2002 05:54 PM PST


Kerry: Thanks for the Alton Brown info. I didn't realize he was married. Guess you can't be right all the time, huh? Haha...

Has anyone else seen "The Rerun Show" on NBC? I think I'm becoming obsessed with it, even though it's not all that funny.

Why has no one posted in the last hour? Whatever happened to days of one- and two-hundred posts? Whatever happened to Faye Wray? That delicate, satin-draped frame? And whatever happened to Saturday night?

Is anyone else disturbed by the story on the "flying" snakes on AOL and CNN.com? Isn't it bad enough that they slither? Do they really need to fly, too?

Posted by Jason @ 08/08/2002 07:12 PM PST


Ron, be prepared to continue to weep. My Joe and I have been noticing that AMC's "classics" have been creeping from the sixties and seventies into the eighties, and now the mid-nineties. Doesn't it take a little time before you can declare Speed a classic?

Then comes a story in TV Guide that AMC is planning to totally revamp their format next fall in order to appeal to a "younger demographic".

Well, every once in a while Newsday questions local teenagers on their film-going tastes. Invariably the answer to "What is the greatest movie ever made?" is something less than a year old.

But I could bitch on what's happened to all of my beloved cable channels recently. Why be negative? I'm going to have some cake. With raspberries in it. And if freedunit doesn't like that, a raspberry to him: Pbththth!

Posted by William F. Orr @ 08/08/2002 07:34 PM PST


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Posted by MDS @ 08/08/2002 08:07 PM PST


When October Goes is by far my favorite Manilow creation.
Trying to Get the Feeling Back Again.
Weekend in New England is okay, I guess, but I prefer Reba's When Whoever's in New England.
All the Time is quite nice.
At the Bandstand is quite good.
I am Your Child is actually from some very obscure film, didya know that? It is a haunting little melody.

I guess I'm one of the lucky ones who did get to see Barry when he was with Bette - and that was my introduction. The Syria Mosque in Pittsburgh. As Bette Midler said, "It looks like a Holiday Inn - IN LEBANON!"

Posted by td @ 08/08/2002 08:42 PM PST


Der Brucer was telling me, over dinner, that the first time he saw Barry Manilow he was wearing a towel. Der Brucer was, not Barry. Yes, it was at that infamous/famous nightclub/recreation hall. But Barry only got the regular plain white towels. EILEEN FARRELL got the deluxe black towels passed out for her audience, thank-you. Wasn't that a very nice thing to discuss during dinner?

Posted by S. Woody White @ 08/08/2002 10:19 PM PST


I had not heard about the flying snakes. Do they have them everywhere, or is this something limited to the Jungles of South America or something?

Posted by Kerry @ 08/08/2002 11:41 PM PST


Eileen Farrel played the Continental Baths? OMG! Haven't posted much because I (we) got caught up in celebrating our (me and my Anthony) 7th anniversary. Awww, how schmaltzy. But it sure was nice:-) Actual date was the 7th (7 years on the 7th). Domestic bliss. I love it.

I haven't seen Mr. Manilow, live or on video/television for a long time but I see a group of his fans every year at Christmas. I volunteer for Broadway Cares Equity Fights AIDS when they put together gift bags for people with AIDS (first two and a half weeks in December in case you're interested in helping-call BCEFA). One of Barry's large fan clubs, A Little Harmony, comes in every year and coordinates the children's portion. They raise money w/Barry's approval and do a beautiful job of putting together gifts for kids with HIV/AIDS or kids whose parent(s) are living with HIV/AIDS so Barry has a soft spot in my heart.

Posted by Ben @ 08/09/2002 05:26 AM PST


Exciting news!! I hope everyone has checked out www.broadway.com this fine morning. If you have, then you would have noticed that BK's very own Alice Ripley has apparently (though unofficially) won the role of Audrey in the premiere Broadway cast of Little Shop of Horrors!! Hunter Foster (of Urinetown is said to be the likely pick for Seymour. How exciting is that? I think that's splendid casting. Your thoughts...?

Kerry: I think the flying snakes are in Asia somewhere, but then again, West Nile Virus was just in Africa, and now look what's happening!

Posted by Jason @ 08/09/2002 05:52 AM PST


Kerry: Here's the link if you're interested. Simply frightening...

http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/science/08/08/coolsc.snakes/index.html

...and here's the link to the Alice article:

http://www.broadway.com/template_1.asp?CI=19610&CT=38

Posted by Jason @ 08/09/2002 05:56 AM PST


I have mixed feelings about Alice Ripley playing Audrey in LITTLE SHOP OF HORRORS. She is certainly capable of singing the part, but I hope the musical director can encourage her to give up her attempt to become a belter. Listening to SIDE SHOW, she seems to have two voices - her singing voice (which is lovely) and her belt voice (which is screechingly awful). Anyone who has heard her perform "Someone Else's Story" in the concert version of CHESS can testify that Alice is not a belter. Ouch!

Hunter Foster as Seymour, on the other hand, is practically ideal casting.

Speaking of ideal casting, I think I prefer Bruce's idea of casting Alice Ripley as Daisy Mae in LI'L ABNER.

All this talk of singers reminds me that I haven't responded to Bruce's answers to my questions about singers. I have to say I totally concur with Bruce's choices for female singers. I agree that Liz Callaway can do anything, and she ranks very near the top of my list. I would also have to list Kristin and Rebecca in my top five, along with Audra MacDonald (who I know is not Bruce's cup o' tea...)

But Bruce cheated with the men, listing only three. I will add a few for him - Brian D'Arcy James (Stephen Schwartz and Stephen Sondheim Albums), Howard McGillin (SHE LOVES ME) and Ron Raines (NIGHT OF THE HUNTER). Bruce, would you agree?

Posted by Dave @ 08/09/2002 07:05 AM PST


I agree with you about Alice's belt. Sometimes it can be a bit underpitch and screechy. But I think she can pull it off...really I do.

And, finally, someone who appreciates Howard McGillin's voice. I love that man...he's oh so very talented, and as we've already established, a very handsome young man. ;-)

Posted by Jason @ 08/09/2002 07:16 AM PST


What's not to love about Howard McGillin? Phenomenal voice, great stage presence, and excellent acting ability. I've had the pleasure of catching his performances in She Loves Me and Kiss of the Spider Woman, and couldn't have been more thrilled.

Second the Ron Raines vote. WHEN will someone write a show for this man?

Posted by Elan @ 08/09/2002 07:50 AM PST


Of course I concur about Brian and Ron, they're great. And someone has written a show for him, and I've already recorded it - I wish to hell it would get produced already - The Night of the Hunter. And I also like McGillin very much.

Posted by bk @ 08/09/2002 09:03 AM PST


Tick tock...tick tock...tempus fugits...

Tick tock...tick tock...how time flies...

Posted by Impatient One @ 08/09/2002 09:47 AM PST





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