Replies: 45 Unseemly Comments
Having admitted I am Barry fan and bought the "Ultimate Manilow" compilation (and realizing I knew every damn song on it) -- I would say the music he wrote to Johnny Mercer's lyrics for Nancy Wilson's "When October Goes" album is of the highest order. I first became aware of him with "Mandy" of course because I am old enough to remember these things.
Posted by Philip Crosby @ 08/08/2002 09:23 AM PST
When did I first fall in love with Barry's music? Geez...I dunno. Picture it: Bookham, England, 1981. My family and I were living in Great Britain thanks to my father's fabulous job with Kentucky Fried Chicken (yes, you read correctly) and some friends from home flew out to visit us. With them they brought Barry's album of greatest hits and I remember sitting in the living room while they ate (probably fried chicken) and I simply couldn't stop listening to "I Write the Songs." "Copacabana" always scared me because of the screaming Lola, but I soon got past that and now I am a true-blue Barry Manilow fan (much to the chagrin of my mother who, to my horror, calls him Barry Fagilow). I even have a recording of the stage production of Copacabana, though I admit it's only been listened to once.
I would say that my favorite Barry tunes are:
"Copacabana," "I Write the Songs," "Mandy," "Somewhere in the Night," "Could This Be Magic?," "I Made it Through the Rain," and "Even Now."
And if we could only discuss Olivia Newton-John, I'd be in late-70's music heaven...
Posted by Jason @ 08/08/2002 09:28 AM PST
Could it be? Am I the first poster today?
I was a Manilow fan when I was (much) younger, and still enjoy some of his earlier material. A few of my favourites would be "This One's for You", "Weekend in New England" and "Could This Be Magic".
Something else Bruce and I have in common is that we both "got" the Sixth Sense within the first ten minutes. I did not see the film in the theatre, but rented it and watched it at home with my wife (who had already seen it). After about 20 minutes, we paused the video to go make popcorn, and on the way to the kitchen I told her how I thought the movie might end, and asked if I was right. She just looked at me in shock, but wouldn't tell me if I was right or not. I watched the rest of the movie believing that it couldn't be so obvious as that, and began to contrive a different ending. When the conclusion came, I was disappointed, because my ending would have been better.
Like Bruce, I also liked Unbreakable. Given that we seem to have the same "sense" for Mr. Shyamalan, I think that he would like Signs, as I enjoyed it more than somewhat.
Posted by Dave @ 08/08/2002 09:30 AM PST
Back to Coprophilia
What earned the coprophiliac high marks in booster club?
His esprit de crap.
François: Je regrette que je ne regrette rien.
Barry Manilow: The medley of commercial jingles. Greatest Hits.
Posted by freedunit @ 08/08/2002 09:42 AM PST
My favorite Barry song has got to be "Weekend in New England". I like them all, though. Insidently, I can't wait to see Copacabana on DVD, but in the same breath, I can say that the worst two hours or so I've ever spent in the theatre was when I saw "Copacabana - the Musical", I was very curious as to how bad it was after I read the reviews and heard the reviews from my friends. It isn't even silly and fun. Oh well, I still love Barry's music.
"You know I can't smile without you...."
Posted by Matthew @ 08/08/2002 09:42 AM PST
I can't smile without you...
I can't laugh and I can't sing...
I'm finding it hard to do anything.
Posted by Jason @ 08/08/2002 10:07 AM PST
I liked Barry Manilow best when he was Bette Midler's piano player. She was at her best then too, doing a wide variety of styles. Once she became a pop diva and began recording mostly songs not worthy of her, she lost something. But the old Bette/Barry combination was wonderful. As for Barry-without-Bette, I prefer the less over-produced solos such as "All the Time". Actually, a little Barry goes a long way.
By the way, to prevent someone going into your e-mail address book and sending to everyone on your list, create a false first listing. Name it 000 (that's the digit zero, not the letter) and use an e-mail address that does not exist. This will be the first name in your list and when it gets sent back the virus will not continue with your list.
Also a good anti-virus program like Norton Anti-Virus will alert you if any of your e-mails contain a virus before you open them.
Posted by William E. Lurie @ 08/08/2002 10:12 AM PST
Here's a strange conundrum...as if there's any other kind...
I just downloaded several CDs onto Real Player so that I wouldn't have to bring my discs with me to work anymore, and when I downloaded my "Haines His Way" disc, all the tracks showed up as Track 1 or Track 2. Well...I downloaded The Phantom of the Opera (The Original Mexican Cast Recording) and now, all of Guy Haines' tracks are called by the titles of songs from Phantom. That probably makes no sense...that's why it's a conundrum.
Posted by Jason @ 08/08/2002 10:31 AM PST
I thought of a few more...
"Looks Like We Made It"
"Trying to Get the Feeling Again"
"Even Now"
Side note: I am currently directing a production of THE SCARLET PIMPERNEL, and whenever the chorus is singing the title song and gets to the lines "this plucky ne'er-do-well, this lucky bloody swell...", I am always reminded of a similar musical phrase in "This One's For You". Is it just me, or do you hear it, too?
Posted by Dave @ 08/08/2002 10:49 AM PST
Gee, I liked Barry Manilow back in high school. But that's been so long ago I don't even remember much about the songs. My sister had a cd called Barry Manilow Sings Frank Sinatra (or some such thing) that we enjoyed while driving to Vegas a couple years ago. Also, I came across an 8-track Manilow tape a few weeks ago while cleaning out a closet.
Posted by Laura @ 08/08/2002 12:20 PM PST
Laura: It's about time Barry came out of that closet...
(Remember...groaning is not allowed at HainesHisWay.com)
Posted by Jason @ 08/08/2002 12:22 PM PST
Well, I have to admit I'm feeling a little left out. My question about lamb dining wasn't answered. And since I wasn't asking for myself, but for my ever-lovin' der Brucer, whose birthday it is today, I really don't know what to do. He's sitting here, dressed very nicely and spiffy like a spruced Bruce, waiting for his lamb dinner, and there is none to be had. Poor little lamb.
Manilow? I'd say he hit my radar about the time of Mandy. Strange, since the only person I know of named Mandy is Patinkin, which gives the song a whole different spin.
Posted by S. Woody White @ 08/08/2002 12:35 PM PST
First off I think we should put on our pointy party hats and raise our voices in a hearty:
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, EVER-LOVIN' DER BRUCER!--even if you do leave all the posting to S. Woody White.
And then, Jason, you became a Manilow fan (or a Fanilow) at the age of 5 by my calculations. Is that correct?
So far nobody has included my favorite Barry song, "The Toilet Bowl Blues".
freedunit: Happy to have you with us again. Did you know, I gave a party in Paris, and nobody showed up? Edith Piaf didn't even send her regrets. (Miss Otis did, however.)
Posted by William F. Orr @ 08/08/2002 01:05 PM PST
William F. Orr: You are correct, sir! Yes, I was but a babe when I first heard the conga-driven beat of Copacabana.
"Boy the way Glenn Miller played
Songs that made the hit parade...
Gee, our old LaSalle ran great...
Those were the daaaayysss!!"
Posted by Jason @ 08/08/2002 01:18 PM PST
I, too, love most of the songs mentioned abovy by Barry Manilow, although all my Manilow albums are in storage (LP albums). For some reason, I have no Manilow on CD.
I do recall a time when I had to ask myself which I preferred -- "Mandy" or "Brandy."
And "Brandy" won hands down, for some reason:
Brandy, you're a fine girl
What a good wife you would be
But my life, my love and my lady
Is the sea....
I'm guessing it was the Navy influence on me!
Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/08/2002 01:40 PM PST
Apologies to S. Woody White - sometimes when I'm cutting and pasting the questions I miss one. I don't love lamb although as a child I really liked lamb chops - so, lamb chops are how I like lamb prepared, not that I've had it any other way. I probably haven't even had lamb chops since I was twelve.
It's interesting that even though we've dropped in the number of posts, traffic is hugely up, best we've ever had. So, let's not look puny here, we need posts and more posts. If you're through with the topic of discussion, discuss whatever you like, that's the point. I've been listening to the cast album of Copacabana, in honor of having watched the DVD last night. It's pretty bad.
Posted by bk @ 08/08/2002 01:50 PM PST
Have follwed Barry M's career since the early days. Saw him in '78 in Forest Hills, again in the late 80's during his first Bdwy tour. Have all the albums on CD (including some only available as Japanese imports - ouch!), which is a truly large number of Barry CD's in the drawer (as opposed to the closet)
Favorite songs?
I Am Your Child
One Voice
Ships
Gonzo Medley
Anything on Paradise Cafe (when the critics realized Barry had talent)
Most anything on Here At The Mayflower" - a song cycle much in the vein of the Sinatra albums of the fifties. Not finger snapping stuff - it takes a while to get into this material.
Posted by Phil @ 08/08/2002 02:24 PM PST
Mr. Jason H. Bratton: I visited the Poop: The Musical website and listened to the cuts, etc. But there is no information on how to obtain the demo CD. Is it possible? I would love to play it for my in-laws, as it concerns their favorite dinner-table conversation topic.
Ron Pulliam: "The Ladies will now retire to the Drawing Room to freshen up, while the Gentlemen enjoy Brandy and Cigars in the Billiard Room, after which Brandy may rejoin the Ladies."
Posted by William F. Orr @ 08/08/2002 02:25 PM PST
And how could I forget "And When October Goes"??? If I ever get to do a cabaret act, this one's in there!
Posted by Phil @ 08/08/2002 02:26 PM PST
Hello everyone! Due to my extremely hectic schedule this week, the next Broadway Radio Show will need to be an Encore Presentation. So, I need all of you to email me with your suggestions of past shows you'd like to hear again. I will try and pull together a random list of past shows and post them here tomorrow, but, in the meantime, please email me with any of your particular favorites. Sorry about no new show, but I do have a phone an interesting phone interview tentatively planned for this weekend which will make for a wonderful upcoming show.
Thanks, everyone!
DONALD
Posted by Donald @ 08/08/2002 02:27 PM PST
Mr. William F. Orr: Should you wish to obtain a demo recording of Poop: The Musical! The Life and Times of Thomas Crapper you may do so by writing to the composer/co-lyricist, Mr. Joe Major. I'll email his email address to you. If anyone else is interested in a demo recording of Poop!, please let me know.
Posted by Jason @ 08/08/2002 03:03 PM PST
Dear BK: Appology accepted. Sorry you haven't had much lamb, as it can be a very good meat.
Which leads me to another subject. Food TV is planning a marathon showing of Alton Brown's "Good Eats" series, and is asking viewers to vote on their favorite episodes. This is over at FoodTV.com and then follow over to TV Personalities, Alton Brown. Along the way, there are links to all the recipies from all the episodes that have ever been broadcast, so I've been very busy printing them out and putting them in a handy dandy binder. One of the recipies is for "Silence of the Leg O' Lamb," where he grills a boned leg o' lamb (well, duh!), with lots of garlic and rosemary and mint and Dijon, and it sounds very very good. Brown is also inclined to call his stuff by names like "Raymond Beurre Blanc" and "The Once and Future Beans," a very good-sounding baked beans recipe. So, if anyone out there has all kinds of time and printer paper, do like I do and start your printers! (Brown is also the author of "I'm Just Here For the Food," a very clever bestselling cookbook that I highly recommend, especially if you like to know they whys and hows of cooking.)
A question for Mr. Orr, in his response to Mr. Pulliam: Are we to assume that Cigars is an English Sheepdog, perhaps?
Posted by S. Woody White @ 08/08/2002 03:11 PM PST
I enjoy "Good Eats" almost as much as I enjoy "Trading Spaces!" Almost. Alton Brown has some kind of weird cuteness about him. I guess its the dork factor that I so heavily rely upon. :-) I particularly enjoyed his baked beans episode as well as how to make an apple pie.
Posted by Jason @ 08/08/2002 03:22 PM PST
Sorry to post again so soon, but speaking of apple pies....did anyone else hear the news that they've signed on to make "American Pie 3?" Isn't that just what the world needs? Pardon me while I purge...
Posted by Jason @ 08/08/2002 03:23 PM PST
Jason: Thanks.
S. Woody White: :-/
Jason: Thinks haven't been the same since they stopped making Porky's sequels.
Posted by William F. Orr @ 08/08/2002 03:43 PM PST
"Mandy" was the first Manilow I heard. I thought to myself "What is this.....fish?" (or something to that effect). There had already been a hit recording of the song "Brandy" by Scott English the year before. Same song. (Not the Looking Glass song referred to above by Ron). Mandy was not as good. I also preferred The Carpenters singing (first again) "Can't Smile Without You". First song I liked of Manlow's was "Weekend In New England". I do like his duet with Barbara Cook.
Posted by Tom from OZ @ 08/08/2002 04:01 PM PST
Today is a red letter day, although this will probably be in black. Chocolate cake for all.
Thank you Bruce for the answers.
I never saw the television special of "Copacobana." I'll have to check it out.
Barry Manilow. Well, the first song of his I liked was "Weekend In New England." I was never all that big on "Mandy" (although I like Irving Berlin's "Mandy" --especially with Vera Ellen dancing to it.) or "I Write the Songs." (I do like the bridge with its George Martin-esque orchestration and counter melody, though). I love "Even Now," "I Made It Through the Rain," "All the Time" and "Copacobana." I also like "One Voice," but I think my favorite song of his is "Ready to Take A Chance Again."
All these songs though are so tied in to the times they were popular and what I was doing during those times.
I'm mainly glad that Barry Manilow is still around and still making money. It became so chic for awhile to bash Barry Manilow, so it's nice to see him outlasting all those bashers.
Posted by Kerry @ 08/08/2002 04:30 PM PST
Cigars? -- Sheepdog?
Brandy? -- Rejoin the ladies?
Ahhh....smut!
Now things are livening up!
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Why I oughta......
Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/08/2002 04:34 PM PST
I was watching "Mr. Deeds Goes to Town" on AMC this afternoon -- and they ran the entire film without a single break...until just at the end as Jean Arthur sits weeping in the deserted court room, not knowing if Deeds will ever forgive her. Suddenly, there's a break for commercial, lots of promos and then the start of "Back Story: Wall Street" -- the rest of the Capra classic was totally forgotten about!
Except by me...I wrote a very irate complaint via e-mail! AMC has gone down the toilet in the past year and I, for one, don't appreciate it! "American Classic Movies" indeed!
Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/08/2002 04:44 PM PST
What? No one has posted in the last hour?
A few aspersions get cast about Brandy and the nature of sheepdogs and everyone crawls into the wood(work)s?
Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/08/2002 05:45 PM PST
OK, OK, I'm posting. I thought of another Barry Manilow song: "It's Just Another New Year's Eve."
Posted by Kerry @ 08/08/2002 05:54 PM PST
Kerry: Thanks for the Alton Brown info. I didn't realize he was married. Guess you can't be right all the time, huh? Haha...
Has anyone else seen "The Rerun Show" on NBC? I think I'm becoming obsessed with it, even though it's not all that funny.
Why has no one posted in the last hour? Whatever happened to days of one- and two-hundred posts? Whatever happened to Faye Wray? That delicate, satin-draped frame? And whatever happened to Saturday night?
Is anyone else disturbed by the story on the "flying" snakes on AOL and CNN.com? Isn't it bad enough that they slither? Do they really need to fly, too?
Posted by Jason @ 08/08/2002 07:12 PM PST
Ron, be prepared to continue to weep. My Joe and I have been noticing that AMC's "classics" have been creeping from the sixties and seventies into the eighties, and now the mid-nineties. Doesn't it take a little time before you can declare Speed a classic?
Then comes a story in TV Guide that AMC is planning to totally revamp their format next fall in order to appeal to a "younger demographic".
Well, every once in a while Newsday questions local teenagers on their film-going tastes. Invariably the answer to "What is the greatest movie ever made?" is something less than a year old.
But I could bitch on what's happened to all of my beloved cable channels recently. Why be negative? I'm going to have some cake. With raspberries in it. And if freedunit doesn't like that, a raspberry to him: Pbththth!
Posted by William F. Orr @ 08/08/2002 07:34 PM PST
A piece of Kimmel history is up for sale on Ebay!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1553929062
Posted by MDS @ 08/08/2002 08:07 PM PST
When October Goes is by far my favorite Manilow creation.
Trying to Get the Feeling Back Again.
Weekend in New England is okay, I guess, but I prefer Reba's When Whoever's in New England.
All the Time is quite nice.
At the Bandstand is quite good.
I am Your Child is actually from some very obscure film, didya know that? It is a haunting little melody.
I guess I'm one of the lucky ones who did get to see Barry when he was with Bette - and that was my introduction. The Syria Mosque in Pittsburgh. As Bette Midler said, "It looks like a Holiday Inn - IN LEBANON!"
Posted by td @ 08/08/2002 08:42 PM PST
Der Brucer was telling me, over dinner, that the first time he saw Barry Manilow he was wearing a towel. Der Brucer was, not Barry. Yes, it was at that infamous/famous nightclub/recreation hall. But Barry only got the regular plain white towels. EILEEN FARRELL got the deluxe black towels passed out for her audience, thank-you. Wasn't that a very nice thing to discuss during dinner?
Posted by S. Woody White @ 08/08/2002 10:19 PM PST
I had not heard about the flying snakes. Do they have them everywhere, or is this something limited to the Jungles of South America or something?
Posted by Kerry @ 08/08/2002 11:41 PM PST
Eileen Farrel played the Continental Baths? OMG! Haven't posted much because I (we) got caught up in celebrating our (me and my Anthony) 7th anniversary. Awww, how schmaltzy. But it sure was nice:-) Actual date was the 7th (7 years on the 7th). Domestic bliss. I love it.
I haven't seen Mr. Manilow, live or on video/television for a long time but I see a group of his fans every year at Christmas. I volunteer for Broadway Cares Equity Fights AIDS when they put together gift bags for people with AIDS (first two and a half weeks in December in case you're interested in helping-call BCEFA). One of Barry's large fan clubs, A Little Harmony, comes in every year and coordinates the children's portion. They raise money w/Barry's approval and do a beautiful job of putting together gifts for kids with HIV/AIDS or kids whose parent(s) are living with HIV/AIDS so Barry has a soft spot in my heart.
Posted by Ben @ 08/09/2002 05:26 AM PST
Exciting news!! I hope everyone has checked out www.broadway.com this fine morning. If you have, then you would have noticed that BK's very own Alice Ripley has apparently (though unofficially) won the role of Audrey in the premiere Broadway cast of Little Shop of Horrors!! Hunter Foster (of Urinetown is said to be the likely pick for Seymour. How exciting is that? I think that's splendid casting. Your thoughts...?
Kerry: I think the flying snakes are in Asia somewhere, but then again, West Nile Virus was just in Africa, and now look what's happening!
Posted by Jason @ 08/09/2002 05:52 AM PST
Kerry: Here's the link if you're interested. Simply frightening...
http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/science/08/08/coolsc.snakes/index.html
...and here's the link to the Alice article:
http://www.broadway.com/template_1.asp?CI=19610&CT=38
Posted by Jason @ 08/09/2002 05:56 AM PST
I have mixed feelings about Alice Ripley playing Audrey in LITTLE SHOP OF HORRORS. She is certainly capable of singing the part, but I hope the musical director can encourage her to give up her attempt to become a belter. Listening to SIDE SHOW, she seems to have two voices - her singing voice (which is lovely) and her belt voice (which is screechingly awful). Anyone who has heard her perform "Someone Else's Story" in the concert version of CHESS can testify that Alice is not a belter. Ouch!
Hunter Foster as Seymour, on the other hand, is practically ideal casting.
Speaking of ideal casting, I think I prefer Bruce's idea of casting Alice Ripley as Daisy Mae in LI'L ABNER.
All this talk of singers reminds me that I haven't responded to Bruce's answers to my questions about singers. I have to say I totally concur with Bruce's choices for female singers. I agree that Liz Callaway can do anything, and she ranks very near the top of my list. I would also have to list Kristin and Rebecca in my top five, along with Audra MacDonald (who I know is not Bruce's cup o' tea...)
But Bruce cheated with the men, listing only three. I will add a few for him - Brian D'Arcy James (Stephen Schwartz and Stephen Sondheim Albums), Howard McGillin (SHE LOVES ME) and Ron Raines (NIGHT OF THE HUNTER). Bruce, would you agree?
Posted by Dave @ 08/09/2002 07:05 AM PST
I agree with you about Alice's belt. Sometimes it can be a bit underpitch and screechy. But I think she can pull it off...really I do.
And, finally, someone who appreciates Howard McGillin's voice. I love that man...he's oh so very talented, and as we've already established, a very handsome young man. ;-)
Posted by Jason @ 08/09/2002 07:16 AM PST
What's not to love about Howard McGillin? Phenomenal voice, great stage presence, and excellent acting ability. I've had the pleasure of catching his performances in She Loves Me and Kiss of the Spider Woman, and couldn't have been more thrilled.
Second the Ron Raines vote. WHEN will someone write a show for this man?
Posted by Elan @ 08/09/2002 07:50 AM PST
Of course I concur about Brian and Ron, they're great. And someone has written a show for him, and I've already recorded it - I wish to hell it would get produced already - The Night of the Hunter. And I also like McGillin very much.
Posted by bk @ 08/09/2002 09:03 AM PST
Tick tock...tick tock...tempus fugits...
Tick tock...tick tock...how time flies...
Posted by Impatient One @ 08/09/2002 09:47 AM PST