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Regarding CONTACT, it doesn't come off nearly as well on television. In fact "Swinging" which comes off as a time filler on stage came off best on tv.
"Did You Move" is nothing without Karen but then it was written for her. The replacement husband (who doubles as the bartender in "Contact") was also a disappointment. But on stage at least you once had the glory that is Karen Ziemba and that made it worth it.
As for the "Contact" portion of CONTACT, it lost a lot on television. With so many closeups in the aparrtment scenes you lost the sense of isolation you felt on stage when he is alone on this large stage. And there was too much going on in the bar scenes to make them work well in a recorded medium. Alan Campbell was fine, but the one perrformance that was an improvement on the original was Coleen Dunn as the girl in the yellow dress/yellow chenille robe. She was wonderful... both sexy and down to earth at once.
I have read that the lady in the baseball cap is filming CONTACT. I don't know it is is the whole thing or just Part III and reconcieved for film it might work. Televising a live production - particularly in the three-quarter-round can't capture what was seen on that stage.
Posted by William E. Lurie @ 09/02/2002 10:43 AM PST
Am I the only dear reader logged on Labor Day? In NYC it is dreary and rainy and the kind of day to curl up with some good BK-produced CDs and a keyboard.
Your mention of Jerry Lewis made me think of when he replaced Victor Garber in the Ray Walston role in the awful rewrite of DAMN YANKEES. I did not see him and wonder if anyone could confirm or deny this rumor. I heard that when he first took over he tried to play the role straight, as re-written and directed and people hated him because they wanted to see the Jerry Lewis they remembered so he gradually started adding more and more of his crazy bits until it bore no resemblence to the character but drove the audiences wild. If this were the original script I think I would have hated to see him ruin it, but since it was totally wrecked before he even took over I guess it was okay.
Posted by William E. Lurie @ 09/02/2002 11:04 AM PST
Looks as if everyone is
following in BK's footsteps and
doing nothing today, including
not checking in here! Oh well,
I guess that's allowed from
time to time. As for me, all I
have today is the
end-of-the-season picnic for
the summer theatre I've been
involved in these past 5 years.
I suppose it's nice to have the
shows behind us and be able
to resume our other lives, but
the end of the season is
always bittersweet, as I lose
my socialization time with all
the wonderful people I work
with, plus I lose my excuse to
escape my rather boring little
hometown and get an hour
away on a regular basis!
Choreographer faves (all
included in BK's list already):
Fosse: Steam Heat or Who's
Got the Pain
Bennett: ACL opening
Robbins: WSS prologue
Posted by Jed @ 09/02/2002 11:23 AM PST
I saw Jerry at one of his first Damn Yankees performances (prior to his official opening). I went with Rupert Holmes and we adored him. Jerry was visibly taken aback and moved by the ovation he received on his first entrance. He played it straight, with only one "laaady" (which of course brought the house down), and his shtick in Those Were the Good Old Days (which worked wonderfully). We went and met him after the show and he was very funny and very gracious to us.
Posted by bk @ 09/02/2002 11:58 AM PST
I'm here! I'm here!! And wouldn't you know I totally forgot to watch CONTACT last night? Damn. Oh, well...I'm sure they'll release it on video.
And, yes, I've heard that "they" are thinking of making a movie version of "The Girl In the Yellow Dress."
William: I saw that tour with Jerry Lewis and believe it or not, he was actually funny. Of course, he was doing his typical "Hey, Lady" schtick, but it was fun, I guess.
Let's see...on to today's topic. Hmm....
Fosse: Steam Heat, Take Off With Us, Rich Man's Frug, Magic to Do, Mein Herr and Big Spender.
Robbins: Cool, Small House of Uncle Thomas (which I think is just beautiful), The Bottle Dance from FIDDLER, WSS Opening and the Dance at the Gym, America, Let Me Entertain You/Dainty June numbers, On The Town Opening.
Bennett: Steppin' to the Bad Side, One, Hello Twelve, Hello Thirteen, Hello Love.
Now, I have to be honest, I don't really know from Tony Bennet, Mel Torme or Andy Williams, but I do know Old Blue Eyes. New York, New York is one of my favorites, and so is It Was A Very Good Year. Young at Heart does it for me, too.
Posted by Jason @ 09/02/2002 12:07 PM PST
Umm..make that Bennett with two T's.
Posted by Jason @ 09/02/2002 12:08 PM PST
I saw Contact when it toured through town and also on tv last night. I liked the first two parts but not the third. It's one of my least favorites of all the shows I've seen that have toured over the last many years.
I also saw Jerry Lewis in Damn Yankees when it toured through here a few years ago. Loved it.
It's Labor Day, which means everyone is home relaxing while I continue to do the usual mom stuff.
Posted by Laura @ 09/02/2002 12:09 PM PST
Funny that CONTACT should be shown last night, as yesterday morining I received an email from choreographer Betty Dunn (Yes, Colleen's MOTHER and teacher) who has decided to join the production team I have assembled for the stage version of ZERO PATIENCE!
Also, I thought that Colleen was infinitely better than Ms. Yates (but I had only seen Ms. Yates' performance on the Tony Awards show, not really enough to go on). I've never had the opportunity to meet Colleen, though her mother and I have worked together before.
For the record, Miss Dunn is also interviewed heavily by Sam Staggs in his opus CLOSE UP ON SUNSET BLVD.
Posted by td @ 09/02/2002 12:31 PM PST
I saw Contact in New York in January, and I may be one of the few who really enjoyed the "Swinging" section, because it wasn't so dragged out. It was short and sweet. The other sections tended to make and remake their points. Someone suggested that the show could have benefited highly from being cut down to 90 intermissionless minutes rather the two hours with intermission. I agree that it would hardly have been hurt by having 15 minutes of dancing (and talking!) cut. I missed it on PBS, but in all I thought that it was a fun and interesting, but not exactly great, dance concert/piece of theatre. (Oh if only the "Special Theatrical Event" category had existed then!)
Posted by Hapgood @ 09/02/2002 01:51 PM PST
I think it's interesting that most memories that people have of Robbins and Fosse are from their film work. As brilliant as I think Mein Heir from Cabaret was in film I wonder how it worked on stage in Fosse. A lot of the impact of this number was in its Academy Award winning editing. If I would have to pick one of Fosse number of a show I have seen on stage it would be I'm a Brass Band. (The film version was overblown)
Robbins reconceived his West Side Story dances for the film medium. A Robbins assistant stage the dances for Fiddler on the Roof and I believe his original choreography was not used in On the Town. Now I did see Jerome Robbins Broadway where many of the dances were recreated (and some edited. But my favorite Robbins choreography was from Peter Pan and his finale for Act One: I'm Flying. I get such a kick out of seeing it and it is my favorite moment from the show.
I did see Bennett's last three shows:The dances in Ballroom were more in the traditional vein. It was wonderful to see some many (past their prime) dancers on stage. My fav from that show was I Wish You a Waltz. I do not remember anything significant from Dreamgirls and knowing what I know now what exactly was Bennett sole contributon to A Chorus Line is hard to tell. I think I would have to say Richies part of Hello 12...
Posted by Michael Shayne @ 09/02/2002 02:18 PM PST
Re: Contact.
I taped it and haven't had a chance to see it yet. Dance is always better seen live because your eyes can be the camera and you can decide what you want to focus on and not relying on another director's vision.
As for the beeping of the dialogue it is obvious what word they were bleeping so who were they fooling. They could have put on a disclaimer ahead time and do they really think young children would be watching Contact anyways.
Also screwed up the taping I ran out of video tape at the climax of the third piece. Although I was able to put a new tape to get the final moments.
Perhaps if there is a home video release that the bleeps won't be there.
Posted by Michael Shayne @ 09/02/2002 02:25 PM PST
T. Bennett---Indian Summer
(from his Sinatra
album)
A. Williams---Canadian Sunset
M. Torme----Blue Moon
F. Sinatra(Sr.)---I Have Dreamed
(from "The King
and I")
Posted by mark rothman @ 09/02/2002 02:27 PM PST
Jerry Lewis completely wrecked 'Damn Yankees' in London. His was, I think, the most obnoxiously self-involved stage performance I've *ever* seen. Anywhere.
Posted by Stephen Farrow @ 09/02/2002 02:31 PM PST
Sinatra .... "Cycles" or "Love's Been Good To Me.
Bennett..... "Young & Warm & Wonderful"
Williams.... "The Wonderful World Of The Young"
Torme....."Cast Your Fate To The Wind".
At least you guys get to see "Contact". We very rarely get to see even televised Broadway musicals.
I actually got to see a very poor copy (of a copy of a copy) of this year's Tony awards last night. The show did not get an airing on free to air or pay television this year. Perhaps they should promote it as "reality" television.
BK. I would have chosen "Firefly" myself! Was it really written for "Gypsy" composer auditions?
Posted by Tom Guest @ 09/02/2002 03:06 PM PST
Pushed the wrong key. That's me above of course.
Ron.Your parcel is in the post.
Francois - I am still waiting for a full report.
Jason how goes your friend in London.When does the Workshop start?
How is Gabriel?
Where oh where is the truant Delores?
Posted by Tom from OZ @ 09/02/2002 03:09 PM PST
Hapgood, did you actually READ the notes today, since I say basically everything you're saying about Contact. Or am I the someone you're referring to who said it could have benefitted from cutting. No skipping the notes - that would be too too unseemly after I've slaved over a hot laptop all morning.
As to the errant and truant Dolores Haze, well I'm afraid she has forsaken all of us. I do get the occasional e-mail from her. She's in college now, and I suppose that is some sort of an excuse not to be a loyal and true Hainsie/Kimlet. I feel a good bitch-slapping is in order, but first I have to digest the pound of rice pudding I just ate. Perhaps I'll do the rice pudding dance to work it off (rice pudding, however, is very low in fat grams). Tom from Oz, what year did Mr. Williams sing The Wonderful World of the Young?
Posted by bk @ 09/02/2002 04:37 PM PST
Well, iconoclast musician that I am, I am working TWO gigs today--home for a mo before taking off again.
Tony Bennett: Percy Faith's exquisite "Song from 'The Oscar' (Maybe September)". It was Tony's idea to add the lyric, or so Ray Evans told me once.
Frank Sinatra: Antonio Carlos Jobim's very profound "Sabia." Some people dismiss this song as repetitive and boring; they are idiots, IMHO.
Andy Williams: "If I Could Go Back" from "Lost Horizon" (although the spoken section is a little much).
Mel Torme: in honor of Mr. Hampton's passing, "Midnight Sun," with that sublime Johnny Mercer lyric.
And, thank you for asking, Gabe is on the mend and looking forward to 1st grade on Wednesday.
Posted by JMK @ 09/02/2002 05:00 PM PST
Williams: "The Last Tango in Paris" (followed closely by "I Want to Be Free")
Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 09/02/2002 06:21 PM PST
What a slow day!
BK made a comment about liking Susan Strohman, but not finding her a visionary.
I think that's a fair assessment, but would go further and state that she need not be, so long as she maintains the high standards she has implemented in her work.
Everyone cannot break new ground, but that's certainly no excuse for shoddy work. Broadway has seen some dark days, but fortunately seems to be well past them.
It will be interesting to see -- if I'm permitted in this lifetime -- what new directions musical theater might take -- and what new directions dance might evolve toward. One thing is sure: The human body as we know it can only do so much, but some evolutionary proponents believe major advances in evolution have happened suddenly, rather than over time. I've already seen the normal height in basketball explode from 6 feet to 7 feet. When I was growing up, only freaks grew taller than six feet six inches. Now it's the norm in a professional sport that continues to grow.
So...dance, choreography, music...all can change in a moment ("it only takes a moment"). Don't blink too fast, or we may miss it.
Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 09/02/2002 09:44 PM PST
Just a comment on "Contact"... I saw the national tour and slept through most of the third part. I watched the televised version last night. Got through the first part and the frist 7 minutes of the second part and was very excited to know that I could turn the TV set off and sleep in my own bed instead of a theatre seat. I guess it's better in NY... isnt' everything?
Posted by Matthew @ 09/02/2002 10:10 PM PST
Hi Bk.
Andy Williams sang "The Wonderful world Of The Young" in 1962.It was a #3 hit in Melbourne that year. It also appears on the album "Andy Williams' Newest Hits" (alongside "May Each Day", "A Fool Never Learns" etc.)
Posted by Tom from OZ @ 09/03/2002 12:08 AM PST
CONTACT: Agreed, the second and third pieces were too long and the camerawork was very frustrating, especially of "The Girl in the Yellow Dress." Colleen Dunn was wonderful, however. When I see Alan Campbell, I can't get it out of my head that he was the surfer waiter in the TV sequel of "Three's Company." Wow, has he come a long way! IMHO, "Swinging," based on a Fragonard painting, was the most interesting of the lot. I saw many of those naughty paintings by Fragonard at the L.A. County Museum of Art several years ago and, as I watched the dance, I kept seeing some of the images from the original paintings (blush, blush). Basing dances on paintings isn't new. As most of you movie mavens probably already know, many of the sequences in "The American in Paris Ballet" were based on Impressionist paintings. For some reason, I didn't realize this until I read Irene Sharaff's (the costume designer) autobiography, "Broadway to Hollywood."
It's late so I'm going off to dreamland and will continue my topic responses tomorrow. Nitey nite!
Posted by Donna - Cabaret West @ 09/03/2002 01:54 AM PST
One of the errant and truant has returned. I went away on Friday afternoon to the Isle of Long and returned yesterday. I have just caught up with all the various posts (sitting here in my cubicle at the office). I had a great Labor-less Day long weekend, actually sleeping until 9:30 one day (for me that's very late). Missed Contact (we were watching Wonder Boys w/Michael Douglas, Toby Maguire and Robert Downey, Jr.) and forgot it was on until I read the posts here. Oh, well. I saw it live so I didn't miss anything. I needs must get to work. I will check in later and add any other important (or non-important) thoughts. P.S. Hooray for 300 notes!
Posted by Ben @ 09/03/2002 05:08 AM PST
Can it be? Is the company that shall remain nameless really releasing Brent's new CD today (Sept. 3) or did Playbill.com get something wrong yet again? Here's the link:
http://www.playbill.com/cgi-bin/plb/news?cmd=show&code=111958
Posted by Jason @ 09/03/2002 05:55 AM PST
According to the site that shall not be named the release date is now 9/23. I knew they would not live up to their original date. Does anyone know if there is an extra track if you buy it through that site (like in the good old days) or if the version that will be sold in the stores will be complete?
Posted by William E. Lurie @ 09/03/2002 06:10 AM PST
Bruce: I did indeed read today's (or rather, yesterday's) notes, and I'm a little hurt that you would suggest otherwise. I was stating my opinions about the show, and if they was similar to your opinions, is that a crime? I believe that the person who suggested the 90 minute Contact was a Cleveland theatre critic, usually an idiot, who was smart on that point. I guyess that I need to work on saying new, rather than old things.
Posted by Hapgood @ 09/03/2002 06:48 AM PST
Now, Hapgood, we were not criticizing you or being mean - it was just the way your original post was worded and because we both felt exactly about the show. No problem there - I just thought, because we were so similar on it (without mention) that maybe you'd skipped the notes. I'm glad you didn't for no man or woman must ever skip the notes.
You may, of course, always post whatever you wish - old, new, different, same, funny, sad. Remember always - we, we are family, and nothing I say is ever a criticism of ANYONE who posts here.
Posted by bk @ 09/03/2002 08:11 AM PST