Posted by bk @ 10/11/2002 09:28 AM PST

Re: Atkins Diet

What dear reader Laura says is true, dear BK. Use the Atkins diet to jumpstart you, then glide into a more sensible, balanced diet as soon as you can. Sadly, the instant you re-introduce carbs into your diet (as you should) some weight will pop right back on. Spoken by someone who has done it.

Teary song:
I've Got a Crush On You as sung by Rosie Clooney

Posted by Philip Crosby @ 10/11/2002 09:31 AM PST

Hey, BK - As for Atkins, I'm on it too - which I think I mentioned before. So far, four weeks, 20 pounds. I'm quite happy with the results. However, I also am of the mind that there has to be a reason for carbs (wheat, dairy, sugar) to exist, so once I get down a few more pounds, I'm going to modify the program. *There's actually a similar program being touted by Men's Health, and the higher carb allowance is balanced out by an exercise regimen - which is like Atkins later phases, the more exercise you do, the more carbs you can eat - your muscles need the carbs to recover fully from exercise. And if you check out the Atkins web-site, there are a bunch of testimonials from people who do Atkins for four days a week, then have three free days. Everything balances out. -There's also a star-trainer in NYC right now who touts that plan - three/four days of protein and exercise, then four/three days of whatever you want to do.

Well, that was enough of a diet discussion for today... Who am I, Jane Brody all of the sudden?
Oh, and as any good diet states, please consult your doctor before AND during any diet you are doing.

As for Erin Dilly... Truly one of my favorite people in the world. I've had the pleasure of doing two shows with her, and she is just a truly nice person. Oh, and her legs could be qualified as filly-like, but her current beau is named Stephen, and their relationship is far from chilly. But she did wear a frilly negligee in an off-Broadway show she did few years ago. And I believe she shilly-shallied when she was Belle on the Beauty & The Beast tour.

As for songs that make me cry... The previously mentioned finale for Violet, Barber's "Knoxville: Summer of 1915", "Finishing the Hat", Debussy's "La plus que lente", Des Grieux's Dream "En fermant les yeux" from Massenet's Manon (my favorite tenor aria - a simply beautiful piece of music, and a heartbreaking, tender lyic), and "Our Time" from Merrily.

-There's bound to be a few more "weepies", but can't think of them right now...

*Have any of the Violet and Barber newbies received their copies yet? First impressions, please.

Finally...

I know this is not a direct personal request, but I'd like for all the Hainsies/Kimlets out there to send good vibes to the Washington, DC area. There's been yet another sniper shooting this morning in Spotsylvania (Fredericksburg). For me, it's particularly unnerving since I commute regularly from DC to Richmond up and down I-95. Hopefully, the current dragnet they have in place will result in the capture of this SOB. There's enough madness in the world right now, and the last thing anyone needs to worry about is whether or not we're going to be safe going about our daily lives. Thank you.

Posted by Jose C. Simbulan @ 10/11/2002 09:32 AM PST

Songs that make me cry: The finale on the soundtrack of "Umbrellas of Cherbourg" and "Four Unlikely Lovers" from FALSETTOS.

Posted by William E. Lurie @ 10/11/2002 10:13 AM PST

WM...

for that matter "What Would I Do" from Falsettos..

also very fond of what I think is called "lady down the hall" also sung by Lamott...

Posted by Craig @ 10/11/2002 10:21 AM PST

Songs that make me cry

What Would I Do? (Falsettoland)

Everything Possible (Flirtations Live Out on the Road)

My Buddy/I'll Be Seeing You (a medley from the same album)

Songs that can (and usually do) make me cry

Never Never Land (Peter Pan)

Where Do You Start? (Michael Feinstein-Isn't It Romantic?)

Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas (Ms. Garland)

Our Time (Merrily)

3 by the lovely and missed Nancy LaMott

Ordinary Miracles
We Live on Borrowed Time
Help is on the Way

Posted by Ben @ 10/11/2002 10:22 AM PST

Craig: Yes, it's called The Lady Down the Hall, and yes, it's another that can make me cry.

Posted by Ben @ 10/11/2002 10:26 AM PST

Roll-out-the-Kleenex songs? I have two:

"What Would I Do?" from FALSETTOLAND and "Where Do I Start?"

I heard the latter song for the first time just at the time that I realized that my relationship of twelve years had extended beyond its useful life and that separation from my partner was a more attractive and healthier course than maintaining the status quo. I don't think a song ever described my emotions at some given point in time as precisely as when I heard "Where Do I Start?" that first time. I'm even getting a bit fahrklempt right now, thinking of that experience, even though it happened years ago.

Posted by Jay @ 10/11/2002 10:35 AM PST

Two songs that never fail to make me cry - and neither of them are sad! One is "Sleepy Man" by Liz Callaway, and the other is "Fathers and Sons" from FALSETTOS.....

Posted by anita @ 10/11/2002 10:40 AM PST

All this talk of Falsettos makes me think of another song from March of the Falsettos, (part two actually, if you count In Trousers as the first and Falsettoland as the third w/March and Falsettoland being combined to form Falsettos)

It's the last song in March, I Never Wanted to Love You. Aachh, it rips my heart out.

Posted by Ben @ 10/11/2002 11:03 AM PST

Actually, it's not the last song, it's the pentultimate song. Father to Son, mentioned by Anita, is the last song.

Posted by Ben @ 10/11/2002 11:05 AM PST

I'm pleased to know Shop Around the Corner is now on DVD. Does anyone remember, years ago, seeing the play on tv? I believe Wendy Hiller starred in it.

Posted by Jane @ 10/11/2002 11:19 AM PST

I have to toss in another bid for "Our Time" and add "Move On". The latter has spoken to Joe and me at critical points in our lives together since he got his disease. Actually, the music of the "cold and emotionless" Mr. Sondheim often gets me very emotional.

And "The Way We Were", back from when Babs could put some real heart into a song. Well, the whole movie is my favorite weeper, and I don't find Robert Redford particularly attractive.

"Something Wonderful" has to make anyone weepy who's been in love for a long time.

Lately my car radio has been playing Connie Francis' rendition of "Somewhere My Love", and I've been in tears on the way to work.

"I Am What I Am"--OCR or Pia Zadora (don't laugh!) or even the disco version. Yes. Just because of its special meaning at a special time. Jerry recounts the first time he was in a disco and heard it in his autobiography.

"Someone in a Tree" always gets my lip trembling, just because it is so... exquisite.

Eric Satie's "Gymnopédie", which keeps popping up in the weirdest places in movies etc. fills me with such nostalgia.

Vivaldi's Lute Concerto. Back in the sixties, the CBS morning news was the one morning show without hype. Every weekday, they began by showing a sunrise from one of their affiliates while playing this lovely piece.

"Nesun Dorma" from Turandot used to fill me with tears, back before it became the standard tenor show-off piece.

Hey, don't get me going. I cry at music, I cry at movies, I cried at Star Trek last night--and I love to cry at weddings.

Posted by William F. Orr @ 10/11/2002 11:20 AM PST

A note for Dave:

Imagine my surprise to learn that someone believes a citizen has no right to talk about politics without having vast experience in them.

Is this in some hidden clause in the Constitution of the United States that no one else knows about?

And someone like Streisand must EARN the right to speak about politics? Wasn't her BIRTH right sufficient since she's a natural-born citizen?

It's all right to dislike what she says, but she has every right to speak, just as we all do.

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 10/11/2002 11:22 AM PST

The first time I heard Honey I sat down on the floor and cried for 15 minutes. And Home on the Range makes me cry, but for a different reason.

I have it on good authority that our very own Mr. Jason Graae will guest star on an upcoming episode of Hidden Hills playing a doctor about to perform a vasectomy.

And speaking of vasectomies, I won at fencing last night using my new move, the Alexander the Great Balls of Fire lunge.

Posted by Sandra @ 10/11/2002 11:25 AM PST

WFO: Someone in a Tree is, IMHO (in my humble opinion) one of the most brilliant songs anyone, Sondheim, et al, has ever written. I think it is one of my favorite songs of any genre. My top 10 or 12 song list may change according to mood and time and place, but I think Someone in a Tree will always be on any list I make. It is, as you said, exquisite.

Posted by Ben @ 10/11/2002 11:41 AM PST

Regarding the Shop Around the Corner, a great movie that always brings tears to my eyes (as does She Loves Me), it should be noted that it was also the basis of the movie You Got Mail.

With regard to the Atkins diet, as stated above, be careful. Most doctors believe it to be dangerous. Also, what's life without pasta!

More tears: I am fearful of saying this since there is so much anti-Barbra sentiment voiced on this board and although I admit to being biased with regard to her, I was listening to her Essentials CD on the way to work this AM and "I've Dreamed of You" (originally on "A Love Like Ours" CD) brought tears to my eyes.

Posted by steveg @ 10/11/2002 11:57 AM PST

Another song that brings tears to my eyes is Aretha Franklin singing I Dreamed A Dream, but that's because I'm laughing so hard.

Posted by Sandra @ 10/11/2002 12:04 PM PST

I shall indeed be careful. I only really intend doing it "by the book" for the first four to six weeks - then I shall do the four on three off routine.

Another tearjerker: Not a Day Goes By, the sad version.

Posted by bk @ 10/11/2002 12:26 PM PST

BK; I KNOW you meant to write
Van JOHNSON, not Heflin, for
IN THE GOOD OLD
SUMMERTIME in which youg
Liza appears !!!

Posted by François @ 10/11/2002 12:33 PM PST

Just a point of clarification...

I am not suggesting that Ms. Streisand does not have the right to speak about politics. But she should not expect that her opinions will be given the same weight as those who have studied the issues. It's a question of credentials.

And it isn't simply Babs that is guilty of this. Am I the only one who is irked by people like Tim Robbins and Susan Sarandon using the Academy Awards as a forum for their own personal political views?

Posted by Dave @ 10/11/2002 12:45 PM PST

Oh, and...

"All the Wasted Time" from PARADE

and just about everything in THE LAST FIVE YEARS

can bring me to tears.

Posted by Dave @ 10/11/2002 12:48 PM PST

First of all: Bruce...are you aware of the horrible breath that you will develop after a few weeks of the Atkins diet? Just fair warning...I smell it all the time on the subway and it's not pleasant.

Secondly: I worry for you Jose. I worry for you and all the folks down there in the D.C. area. I'm sending all my Hainsie/Kimlet vibes down to you.

Thirdly: What doesn't make me cry? No...seriously...here's my list:

"Our Time" from MERRILY makes me weep...especially after seeing the original cast do it at the reunion.

"The Way We Were" is a definite tear-jerker.

The movie "Steel Magnolias" does it to me every time.

"The Best of Friends" from the Disney movie "The Fox and the Hound." I think it's the dialogue part that goes something like "I'm a hound dog. (He howls)" "I'm Copper." Well...you know the part I mean.

John Bucchino's song "If I Ever Say I'm Over You."

"Sunday" from SUNDAY IN THE PARK.

"Not While I'm Around" from SWEENEY TODD (there's a lot of sentimental value in that song).

and finally (at least for THIS posting):

"How Lovely is Thy Dwelling Place" from Brahms' "Ein Deutsch Requiem." Again...sentimental value.

Posted by Jason @ 10/11/2002 12:52 PM PST

I'm no "prude", but using the
word "bitch" -- see yesterday
posts -- in regard of Miss
Streisand is quite unseemly,
mainly on this site, IMO.

Posted by François @ 10/11/2002 01:09 PM PST

Moving songs:

I Remember You

You'll Never Know

Posted by François @ 10/11/2002 01:13 PM PST

One of the most moving songs in my experience is "Lost in the Stars" as performed on the "An Evening With Kurt Weill" cast album.

"Superstar" (Leon Russell) as sung by Bette Midler.

"The Second Star to the Right" sung by Barbara Cook.

"Time Heals Everything" by Ms. Bernadette Peters.

"How Are Things in Glocca Morra" as performed by Ms. Petula Clark in the opening and closing "Finian's Rainbow" leaves a lump in my throat!

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 10/11/2002 01:18 PM PST

David, I agree that awards shows are meant for awards and not political statements.

That said, I've never gotten any feeling that the celebrities who are speak at political events were expectant of anything (except maybe Ronald Reagan).

They are outspoken individuals, getting involved in civic issues they believe in by speaking at rallies, sponsoring events, contributing money and generally supporting those issues that are dear to them.

I've always admired their convictions for getting involved, even when I didn't support their beliefs.

I think the perception you spoke of -- that we should heed what they say -- is actualy courtesy of the "media coverage" -- the same media that hounds every celebrity to death and takes every opportunity to report on their clothes, their loves, their houses and their politics with the rabid fervor of the most extreme terrorists.

When the media does this, most of us get "sick" of the individual.

I've never found Streisand's movies and music affected by her political convictions, and she doesn't seem to have made them part of her concerts, at least not that I've read any objections about.

But I'm grateful, Dave, for your clarification.

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 10/11/2002 01:38 PM PST

Jose: I actually got my copy of "Violet" in today's mail. It's sitting all minty (still in shrinkwrap) in front of me.

I bought it through Amazon.com as through one of their "marketplace" sellers who sell things "new and used". Turns out the seller had three new copies listed she obtained from the manufacturer.

By the time I thought about buying a second copy, the website told me there were none left (but she might have more up).

Again, if anyone is interested, do a search of Jeanine Tesori as that was the only way "Violet" came up as an item on amazon.com.

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 10/11/2002 02:06 PM PST

I shan't have bad breath no matter what.

Passionate discourse is fine and dandy, as long as we all respect each other, which we obviously do, and that's why we are all so jiggy with this here site. You should see what goes on on other sites - in fact, I know of no more civil place to post on all of the Internet.

Posted by bk @ 10/11/2002 02:06 PM PST

P.S. -- the label's website -- www.resmiranda.com -- offers "Violet" for $16, not including shipping/handling (I think).

They also have the Lincoln Center recording of Tesori's "Twelfth Night."

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 10/11/2002 02:08 PM PST

RE: Atkin's Breath - or any bad breath for that matter - Parsley does work. If you happen to have a nice sunny windowsill upon which you can grow a small pot of parsley, them more power to you. If not, there are pills that do the same job. I think Breath-A-Sure is one of the marketed brands - all those horrible commercials with Alan Rachins...

Posted by Jose C. Simbulan @ 10/11/2002 02:14 PM PST

Craig:

Thanks for the LOL reminder of the Chandler Bing retort from "Friends."

Another favorite was when his co-worker assumed he was gay (he had "a quality")and tried to fix him up with a guy in accounting.
Chandler, offended, suggests she might at least have considered setting him up with a guy called "Brian", to which she replied, "Brian's out of your league."

Chandler, striking an indignant pose: "I could get a Brian."

There was another great line in some show I can't remember in which someone with a new girlfriend was bringing her home to meet friends and family. As soon as he prepared them for his "suprise," he went out to his car to get her.

One friend to another: "You mean he left her out in the car?"

A beat or two after they peer out the window, they make a face and one of them said:
"How long did he leave her there?"

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 10/11/2002 02:15 PM PST

While I agree that media coverage of celebrities is sickening, I also recognize that it is an uneasy love affair that the celebrities share with that same media. As much as we might deplore the actions of the paparazzi who hounded Princess Diana, it is hard to ignore that she courted their attention when it suited her interests. The same is true of Princess Babs.

And you're right - I have not found that the films of Ms. Streisand are tainted by her political beliefs, but they are unquestionably tainted by her ego.

I think I have made it clear that I am not a Streisand fan, but I do apologize if I offended anyone with the use of the "b" word in reference to her. (I didn't think she minded being called Babs...)

Posted by Dave @ 10/11/2002 02:15 PM PST

Dave,

You're "excusé" ! No hard
feelings..........and David is one
of my favorite names! Ah!

Posted by François @ 10/11/2002 03:16 PM PST

I rarely am brought to tears by a song. There are exceptions, but the ducts will start quacking at one performance, not repeatedly.

"I'd Rather be Sailing," from New Brain, has hit me this way, as has the previously mentioned "Four Unlikely Lovers."

"Journey On," from Ragtime. I'm short on examples right now.

Totally different subject: it isn't the political stance some of our stars take that bothers me, but the "You're an idiot if you don't agree with me" stance they sometimes take while taking that stance. It's just so...so...crosseyed!

Posted by S. Woody White @ 10/11/2002 03:37 PM PST

BK. Did you mean "Second Avenue" by the angelic voice of Art Garfunkel. (1974)?

My "crying songs" are:
Not a Day Goes By - Carly Simon
If I Ever Say I Am Over You - Art Garfunkel
"Our Time" OBC
I will now go and dig out my Falsettos discs and check on those mentioned.

Posted by Tom from OZ @ 10/11/2002 03:48 PM PST

I'm just not one to cry at songs.
Also, as I stated here once
before, my physique makes it
obvious to one and all, all and
one, that I don't know from
diets, Atkins or otherwise.

Jose - since yesterday was
payday, Barber's Knoxville is
now on order (as well as the
long overdue to my collection
Lost in Boston IV).

Posted by Jed @ 10/11/2002 04:07 PM PST

Tom of OZ (Greater and Less, Upper and Lower):

I can never truly capture the essence of what time it is when I see you've posted something. I see the "pst" time chop...and I believer you at plus-10 hours from Pacific Time....so right now, it's nearly 5 p.m. on Friday. Does that mean it's 3 a.m. on Saturday where you are, or is it totally something different?

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 10/11/2002 04:47 PM PST

TWO THINGS FOR BK

It is VAN JOHNSON and not VAN HEFLIN that was IN THE GOOD OLD SUMMERTIME.

I am also on the Atkins. I have lost 15 pounds in 3 weeks. But once you reach your goal weight you increase the carb intake. I will stick on it as long as it works for me.

What songs make me teary eyed? I am a very sensative guy and not afraid to say that I cry,

What Would I Do
from Falsettoland helped me through a rough time when a friend of mine was dying. On the night he died I just played it over and over.

Nancy LaMott
Listen To My Heart
and also
We Live On Borrowed Time which was released after her death and I agree when I first heard the tears flowed.

Laurie Beachman
Ditto for No One Is Alone but there are others on the album that get me misty as well thinking about what she was going through at the time she was recording those albums.

Kevin Koelbl
You Are My Home & Somewhere in Time

Lee Lessack
Jonathan Wesley Oliver Jr. (Even the late composer said that Lee's was the best version he ever heard.)

My Brother Lived In San Francisco No matter who I heard do it, it was always done beautifully.

Posted by Michael Shayne @ 10/11/2002 04:55 PM PST

Does anyone know if Brent Barrett's new CD has been released yet?

Posted by Michael Shayne @ 10/11/2002 05:14 PM PST

Thanks Michael Shayne for
seconding my correction of
Johnson and Heflin....

Brent Barrett's cd is NOT out
yet and BK had some
anecdote about it, just a few
posts away...

Just my two euros !

Posted by François @ 10/11/2002 05:19 PM PST

I heard about brent not be allowed to thank BK in his thank yous.

Also Carol Channin is being interviewed by Larry King Tonight at 9pm. I think it repeats later in the morning.

Posted by Michael Shayne @ 10/11/2002 05:30 PM PST

It is 10.35am here SATURDAY.
Does that help you Ron.
Half the village thinks of this as UPPER Beaconsfield. The other half thinks we live in Beaconsfield UPPER.

Posted by Tom Guest (from OZ) @ 10/11/2002 05:33 PM PST

Did anyone else find out who Jon Brian Blake really was?

Posted by Michael Shayne @ 10/11/2002 05:52 PM PST

Michael Shayne: All I heard was that the new release date was supposed to be October 8th (actually, I think I heard that from you, that that was what the site said). Brent told me they were "hoping" to have product this week, but I haven't heard whether that's happened or not. Presumably, when they have the product, the release should follow in short order. And that's all I know about it.

Posted by bk @ 10/11/2002 06:27 PM PST

The song that makes me teary-eyed is "Love Lifted Me," my late best friend's favorite hymn.

Posted by Laura @ 10/11/2002 06:58 PM PST

Carol Channing was pre-empted on Larry King tonight. Strange since the promo right before the show started said she was going to reveal something very interesting.

As for Mr. Brent Barrett one place on the site pre-orders are being taken and another said they ready for sale. Until I see some kind of confirmation my money stays in my pocket. But I am looking forward to seeing him in person next year. He is coming to Delray Beach, FL to perform his one man show.

Posted by Michael Shayne @ 10/11/2002 08:03 PM PST

Good to see so many Michael Shayne posts. You are well and truly back from those scipts - I hope they are received well and that something wonderful (a R & H reference)happens.
Like Jason, I worry about the Washington DC area. I woryy about guns in general. I worry about people like Moses (or Ben Hur)too. Take care Jose and everyone.

I am listening to Brent Barrett as I type this - no it's certainly not the new one!

Ron: It is now 1.34pm Saturday here. Just to keep you posted.

Posted by Tom from OZ @ 10/11/2002 08:30 PM PST

BOWLING FOR COLUMBINE !

BEST DOCUMENTARY award
at last Cannes FILM FESTIVAL

It premiered this past
Wednesday here in Paris.

It premiered in L.A. and NYC
yesterday...

Please, Hainsies and Kimlets
go and see this film, YOU
WON'T REGRET IT !!!!

Hope it's shown soon in OZ,
Tom !

Posted by François @ 10/11/2002 08:37 PM PST

My "double" thanks to Tom in Oz (Upper) for the time hacks. It seems you're 17 hours ahead of us here in California.

I know it all makes sense -- and there are some wonderful visual aids out there for folks like me who NEED to "see" the differences. I'm just happy to know you and all the other hainsies/kimlets here and abroad.

Francois, I'm sorry I cannot figure how to type a cedilla.

In addition to "Violet" (which i anticipate mightily), I also received today "Bravo, Giovanni" with Cesare Siepi and Michelle Lee. Had never heard of it, either, but I'm taking a chance.

I'm a huge film score fan, and a couple of treasures joined my collection on one CD -- the Alfred Newman scores to "Down to the Sea in Ships" and "Twelve O'Clock High" -- wonderful scores the both of them, with some surprisingly chilling and goosebump-raising "trailer" cues for the latter title.

I've recently obtained and cannot stop playing the OST to "Flower Drum Song" (arranged and conducted by Alfred Newman, with choral supervision by Ken Darby). The CD is stunningly beautiful, IMO.

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 10/11/2002 09:20 PM PST

Ron. I can type a cedilla in "word" and then paste across (the whole document that is). I have to use "control comma" and then the "c". These French peopel are such problems n'est pas! (So is my french).
I will watch out for the documentary Francois. Probably end up on TV here. (Note no cedilla as I am not typing in "word".

Posted by Tom from OZ @ 10/11/2002 09:51 PM PST

Hey, who gives a care about a
cedilla ???

Not me, really !

Mainly at this early time in the
morning...... -- 7:10 am , in
France --- for Ron !

Posted by François @ 10/11/2002 10:11 PM PST

Crying songs (or at least watery eyes):

"The Folks Who Live on the Hill" (Peggy Lee)
"The Last Spring" (Lyn Larsen)
"Who Gave You Permission?" (Karen Morrow)
"Beautiful Boy" (John Lennon)
"We Live On Borrowed Time" (Nancy Lamott)
"Help Is On the Way" (Rusty Ferracane's version first, David Campbell's second)
"Since You Stayed Here" (Liz Callaway)
"Baby Mine" (original soundtrack first, Barbara Cook second, Bette Midler third)
Mannheim Steamrollers' version of "Silent Night"
Don't even get me started on Christmas songs!

Posted by Kerry @ 10/11/2002 10:56 PM PST

Sorry Ron - I got one of the three "Violet" CD's on amazon. Still waiting for it to arrive. Glad to see there are more copies available.....

Have a potential question for everyone here.....wqhat trwo songs would you like to see performed as a medley?

My choices:

(from "Promises Promises")as sung by Liz Callaway

and

"You Can Have the TV" (Craig Carnelia) as sung by Barry Manilow

The alpha and omega of a relationship in 8 minutes of song.....

Posted by phil @ 10/12/2002 07:21 AM PST

I have to be quick cause I have to work a double at the Met today...BUT! I wanted to share this with all of my friends here at haineshisway.com:

To quote Corky St. Claire..."We may be goin' to Broad Way!"

Official word has come to me that a re-mount of the reading (and possibly a full workshop) of MOBY DICK is being planned as we speak. Cameron Mackintosh loved our reading so much that he has expressed interest in wanting us to do it again! A recording may also be in store for us as well. Isn't that exciting? Isn't that just too too??

Just thought I'd share :-) And now I'm off to hear Placido...

Jose...hope you're still keeping safe inside your house!!

Posted by Jason @ 10/12/2002 07:25 AM PST

Bruce: WAKE UP, SLEEPYHEAD!

It's 10:13 a.m. PDT and there ain't no new notes up yet!

Thanks for the time hack, Francois...for some reason, I can figure European time...must be because I lived in Italy for 9 years (9)! I had to know what time it was to call friends in California and on the East Coast...they never bothered to figure out the reverse and I found myself getting up at 3 a.m. to have a chat on the phone.

: )

When you're dealing with loved ones, you just cherish the moments without complaining, though!

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 10/12/2002 10:14 AM PST