Replies: 32 Unseemly Comments
Just wanted to be the first poster today for the hell of it.
Posted by Nick R @ 10/23/2002 07:21 AM PST
For Ask BK Day:
I just read that the off-Broadway version of DEBBIE DOES DALLAS has cleaned up the original film so much that there is no nudity and no sex. Do you think this will help it or hurt it, and more importantly do you think the nudity in the stage version of FIRST NUDITY MUSICAL will help to sell the show (like NAKED BOYS SINGING) or do you think that despite the hysterical script and wonderful score people will think it is a porno show? In other words do you think many people will attend for the wrong reasons and that other people who would appreciate the humor and satire would stay away because they will preceive it as a porn show?
Posted by William E. Lurie @ 10/23/2002 07:33 AM PST
Divoon? I think we have seen the coining of an unseemly new word.
My question is: have you been reading "Doonesbury" this week? One of the characters has a "blog," and some of the comments about writing a daily e-journal have been most amusing. You should go back and check them out if you've missed them.
Posted by JMK @ 10/23/2002 08:12 AM PST
Hmm... Just reading the first sentence... "...I water heater is fixed..." Does this mean the water heater wrote today's notes for bk? Or is this some obscure use of the "royal we"?
My questions for this week:
Hmmm... I'll have to think some more.... be back later... *I had some more from last week that I wanted to ask, but can't remember them right now.
Posted by Jose C. Simbulan @ 10/23/2002 09:04 AM PST
For Ask Bruce Day:
With all the DVDs that you buy each week, do you ever have the time to watch them a second or third time after your initial viewing?
Posted by steveg @ 10/23/2002 09:26 AM PST
For Ask BK day. How many of the regular 'dear readers' do you know personally, who are they and how do you know them (apart from the ones you met for the first time at Joe Allen's recently)?
Posted by Allan @ 10/23/2002 10:20 AM PST
'divoon' unseemly?
Tut...it's been around a while, I assure you! I could swoon (because) it's so divoon." That's a line from something, I don't know what!
Rest assured the Digital "E.T." is just as enchanting as original "E.T." Only problem is, people don't carry walkie-talkies the same way they carry guns -- so they changed the guns to radios, but not the way they were handled. Looks silly! If you're looking for it.
The DTS audio is MAGNIFIQUE! One of the best-sounding DVDs I've heard -- they REALLY knew what they were doing and they did it very, very well.
The "live" performance of an orchestra with Williams conducting to the film at the Shrine Auditorium is simply ODD...it would be different if the "live music" were on a separate track, but they've simply presented us with the film with the "live" performance. It's one of those things you never want to hear again. Should have been "isolated" as score only so you could see the film with only the music.
My QUESTION FOR BK:
When you were making that little commercial that appears in "E.T.," were you specifically doing it for Spielberg's production company? Did he direct it, or was it subbed out?
OR, was it really a commercial that he licensed?
Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 10/23/2002 10:58 AM PST
I would just like to elaborate a bit on my Ask BK question from above. I feel that nudity in the theatre falls into three categories. The first is the kind where the nudity is the whole purpose of the show going as far back as OH, CALCUTTA and as recent as the current long run NAKED BOYS SINGING. These shows have no real value except to show off naked bodies.
The second kind is the gratuitous nudity that is not needed but added for the publicity it gives a show. HAIR is a prime example --- nudity was not part of the original off-Broadway production, and it really added nothing to the Broadway version except a lot of buzz about the show. Even Sondheim shows are not exempt: Marin Mazzie did not really have to appear naked in the first scene of PASSION but it sure got people talking. She was not nude when the show was telecast on PBS nor was Rebecka Luker naked in the same role in Washington. And a naked Crystal was not in Clare Booth Luce's script for THE WOMEN but that didn't stop The Roundabout when it was done in the recent revival. That brief scene got more publicity than anything else in the play.
The final kind of on-stage nudity is nudity that is not the purpose of the play but is germane to it... the man who walks out of the bathroom and says "You know I can't hear you when the water's running" (with appologies to Robert Anderson). This is the category that THE FIRST NUDIE MUSICAL falls in. You can't do a spoof of skin flicks without showing some skin. The title is perfect for the film (and now play) but I think it may be the reason that most major publications didn't review or even list the recent DVD release. While shows in the first category do a lot of business, their audiences are not usually regular theatregoers, and these shows are never taken serious by the critics and award givers. I don't want this fate to befall FIRST NUDIE MUSICAL...THE MUSICAL and the purpose of my question is to find out what steps are being taken in the publicity to let theatregoers know that this is a good old fashioned Musical Comedy (the two most glorious words in the English language) with nudity and not a show for those with more purient interests.
Posted by William E. Lurie @ 10/23/2002 11:19 AM PST
Re: divoon. Well, just goes to show ya how far out of the hip and happening loop I am. I'm still dealing with groovy.
Posted by JMK @ 10/23/2002 11:23 AM PST
Didn't Cole Porter use "divoon" in RED HOT AND BLUE's "It's Delovely"?
Posted by William E. Lurie @ 10/23/2002 11:49 AM PST
After an unsleemly absence, I'm back! We had a bad round of flu here, where der Brucer and I were hit at the same time. Normally he gets hit and I nursemaid, or I get hit and he stays out of the way. But the two of us together getting hit meant that he wanted me to nursemaid while staying out of my way, and the two systems just don't operate well together. Blech.
Which leads to my question, BK: When you have a need for chicken soup, what (besides chicken) do you like to have IN your chicken soup? Veggies, starches, special herbs and spices?
Posted by S. Woody White @ 10/23/2002 12:08 PM PST
Jose: I have fixed the offending "I". That happens sometimes when I am yawning and typing at the same time.
Posted by bk @ 10/23/2002 12:24 PM PST
I thought "divoon" was what Jayne Mansfield's character said all the time in "Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter."
Posted by Kerry @ 10/23/2002 12:38 PM PST
I remembered her character's name: Rita Marlowe. So, wasn't it Rita Marlowe who used the term?
Posted by kerry @ 10/23/2002 12:41 PM PST
JMK: You're "allowed"! : )
I think "groovy" gave way to "far out", "that's rad", "coo-ol" and "I'm jazzed."
I'm not sure I know what the current (a ce moment) equivalent is...or whether I want to know.
Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 10/23/2002 01:18 PM PST
I have been without a phone for 18 hours or so. Yes I have paid my bills. No calls in or out and even my "cell" phone would not do anything. Very spooky. I have had to wait nearly a whole day to check into HHW.
My question. In the movie "Harvey", do you know if the same actor who played the title role played it on stage and has that actor had much other work in Hollywood or on Broadway.
Posted by Tom Guest (from OZ) @ 10/23/2002 01:56 PM PST
Ask BK: Is it just me or was it a great pleasure to see Robert Armin posting again?
And where is Freedunit?
Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 10/23/2002 02:20 PM PST
My questions for BK:
1) On the TV commercial you appeared that also appeared in ET. Did they do a buyout or do you get residuals from the film re-release in the theaters and on DVD/Video?
2)On the Atkins diet are you taking of the supplements or have you bought any of the food? Has it been difficult to cut down on the carbs? I've lost 17 lbs in 4 weeks. The ketosis has really happened yet. Looking forward to that happening. But I'll be happy with the 4 lbs a week until I get down to my fighting weight.
RENTED ET. I was hoping for some of the deleted scenes with Harrison Ford. Big disappointment there. Thought the special material was a big yawn. Laurent Bouzereau (sp?) who usually does fine work with documentaries created for DVD releases has struck out here.
Bought Casino Royale. A guilty pleasure. Always saw it in Pan and Scan which was always annoying. Looking forward to the wide screen version.
It also has the 1954 TV version with Barry Nelson and Peter Lorre and Linda Christian as part of the special extras. This I am looking forward to this as well.
Posted by Michael Shayne @ 10/23/2002 04:46 PM PST
Question for anyone.
I had a friend ask me today who first sang "Mama Don't Allow"?
I know it as a traditional blues/folk/jazz song but don't know if there is an author/composer known. I only have the version by The Rooftop Singers which is not that much help as they wrote new words. My search of the NET did not help - apart from a few of the lyrics used on Campfire songs.
I know I need to get a life.
At least I was able to help with Diane Ray's "Please Don't Talk To The Lifeguard" earlier today. Such is my role in life.
At least I'm posting. Where is everyone? (Thank you Michael & Ron).
Posted by Tom from OZ @ 10/23/2002 05:09 PM PST
BK -
What was your least favorite subject in school?
What is your favorite bit of Monty Python humor?
What are your thoughts on Roger Miller's music?
Posted by Jed @ 10/23/2002 05:34 PM PST
Hmmph! I could post, too, if Ron would let me. He criticizes my grooming habits and says he doesn't want fur and dander floating every time he uses the keyboard!
As if!
I save all that for his bed!
Posted by Miss Vickie @ 10/23/2002 05:36 PM PST
I will repeat questions unanswered last week.
I think it's about time that somebody made a movie or TV special of FOLLIES(not concert).It would be terrific to cast. What do you think??And how about an adaptation of SHE LOVES ME? This could be filmed on location and I believe would make one hell of a movie.
Posted by Arnold M,Brockman @ 10/23/2002 05:41 PM PST
Tom:
Can it be:
Mama Don't Allow" by Milt Hinton?
or the Ink Spots in 1935
Posted by Michael Shayne @ 10/23/2002 05:50 PM PST
Michael: As for ketosis, if you're averaging about four pounds a week, your body is probably already in ketosis, or at least an "early" or "mild" stage of it. As the book states, some people just can't make the strips turn from pink to purple that easily. It's all different from one person to the next. Personally, I had a few days of "purple", but most of the time it was in the mid-range. BUT, my weight is going down, and my waistline is definitely getting smaller. Even my parents noticed! About six weeks into it, I do allow myself a nice splurge once a week - my latest being those small Scharffenberger Chocolate bars - The Nibby Bar is my favorite. Great chocolate, and only 15 carbs per bar. Definitely the type of chocolate you take your time eating. I've also started exercising more, and that (presumably) "allows" me to have more carbs - the muscles need them to fully recover from the workouts. All in all, I'm happy with my progess on Atkins, but I am careful when the term "liberal" is used in conjunction with fats and oils. I get - and would get - a headache whenever I eat a meal with too much fat in it, and that's my body telling me something.
Well, enough of the diet talk for today... Oh, but I do like the Atkins Bars. But some of the bakes mixes, shakes mixes, etc., actually seem a bit too engineered for me.
I think I finally have a few questions for Ask BK Day:
1) Would you like to be a Tony voter? Or at least sit in on the nominations meetings?
2) Do you know a good source on the web to consult regarding securing rights for songs that are going to be recorded and subsequently released on CD for public sale? -And, just how necessary is it to secure those rights for basically a vanity recording that someone is doing? *Yes, I am asking for a friend. I'm familiar with cabaret and theatrical revue situations, but the recording biz is new to me.
3) A couple of years ago, I believe there was some talk about putting together a vocal selections collection of some of the songs from the "Lost In Boston" and "Unsung Musicals" collections. Was this ever true? Or was it just very wishful thinking on a lot of people's parts? And how cooperative do you find composers are in supplying music for those songs if one were to contact them and ask for a copy? *I also know such a collection would have been a publishing rights nightmare. At least there was that nice Unsung Irving Berlin book.
I actually had some more "creative" questions to ask, but, again, they slipped my mind. Maybe next week...
Posted by Jose C. Simbulan @ 10/23/2002 06:14 PM PST
Ron -- apparently, it's just you.
Posted by Robert Armin @ 10/23/2002 07:53 PM PST
Robert Armin - it's not just Ron at all. The rest of us just don't want to be caught answering an Ask BK question. :-) Welcome back to the unseemliness.
Posted by Jed @ 10/23/2002 08:47 PM PST
Dear BK,
Have you ever worn leopard spots?
Yesterday I spoke on my handy dandy telephone with Dear Reader My Mom somewhere in New Mexico. She would like to know if you did the musical directing for the Toast to Cole Porter CD she'd been listening to since she left Arizona. At least I think that's what she said... I was too busy picturing you in leopard spots to pay much attention.
Posted by Sandra @ 10/23/2002 08:59 PM PST
:-) ditto
Posted by Robert Armin @ 10/23/2002 09:11 PM PST
Ask BK Day:
What is your favorite cartoon character?
Tell us about Vinnie "where did he get all those wacky middle names" Cirilli?
sniff, sniff, still wanting a chocolate flick fix......
Posted by Angela D. @ 10/23/2002 10:11 PM PST
Robert -- does this second day of posting mean you'll be posting more frequently again???
I hope, I hope, I hope!!!!!
R
Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 10/23/2002 11:11 PM PST
Bruce,
Do you know if Dear Reader Sandra ever finished her term paper?
That was the only question my brain could manage.
Although my divoon Rita Marlowe question may be one for you to answer.
Posted by Kerry @ 10/23/2002 11:27 PM PST
Who is Robert Armin and why are people saying anything about him?
Just kidding. Welcome back Robert.
I too want to know about Sandra's paper.
Posted by Tom Guest (from OZ) @ 10/23/2002 11:38 PM PST