Posted by Ben @ 04/03/2003 08:12 AM PST

What a great load of information. I have information coming out my ears - and everyone is staring at me.

Ice Cream...Butter Pecan...most every brand is the same. I can eat a whole box myself.

No need to add anything, although bananas are nice.

Posted by Jrand52 @ 04/03/2003 08:13 AM PST

I'm more of a sorbet person, myself, but I do agree that those bad boys Ben Haagen and Jerry Dazs are wonderful people, indeed!

But my all-time favorite was made at a local place called "Gertie's" that had a blackberry ice cream whose butterfat content was somewhere in the stratosphere. Ah, the good old days, pre-Lipitor!

And don't even get me started on the late, much lamented Ideal Candy Company, where the hot fudge was made from scratch--just dark chocolate, vanilla and whipping cream. My husband once talked his way out of a traffic ticket on the way there--the cop was a chocoholic who knew all about Ideal and understood the need for haste.

Posted by Pam @ 04/03/2003 08:17 AM PST

I have travelled all over this great country of our and have samples ice cream from many eateries (local and chains) and without a doubt - the best ice cream I have encountered is called "GRAETERS" and is located in Cincinatti, Ohio.

My favorite flavor of theirs is Chocolate Raspberry Chip.

To DIE for.. and now you can even order it online. It's expensive tho, as they ship it in dry ice and with a minimum of 6 pints. Click on my name for a link to their site if you are curious.

Posted by Craig @ 04/03/2003 08:29 AM PST

SAMPLED, not samples. And now I am drooling.. I want that ICE CREAM!!!! Bruce - have you heard of this glorious confection? You should order up some pints and review it!

Posted by Craig @ 04/03/2003 08:31 AM PST

Bryer's Chocolate Rainbow!!! There are five layers of five diferent kinds of chocolate ice cream - light, dark, chocolate mocha and I forget what the other two are but they are great. All you need to add is some Chocolate Ready Whip and you have a treat as fine as any home made dessert.

Posted by William E. Lurie @ 04/03/2003 08:51 AM PST

Did anyone else think turning Grandma's Ice Cream maker would be fun? And then it turned out to be drudgery??? 8-P

Posted by Jrand52 @ 04/03/2003 08:56 AM PST

Anybody else catch the American Masters last night on Joni Mitchell? What a superb trip down memory lane. With all these pop and rock stars attempting (usually failing) to write for musical theatre, I couldn't help but think Joni's incredible access to "inner worlds" would make her an ideal musical theatre composer/lyricist.

Posted by JMK @ 04/03/2003 09:03 AM PST

We have a wonderful make of ice cream over here called Loseley's. Even plain old vanilla is to die for. They sell it in theatres in the intervals, and it costs you almost as much as your seat.

Posted by Allan @ 04/03/2003 09:05 AM PST

Okay BK I'm gonna hurt you. Talking about ice cream when I'm starving is not nice!

My favorite flavor would probably be chocolate mint chip. I don't know if we have any Ben & Jerrys around here. I usually go to Baskin & Robbins.

Jennifer

Posted by Jennifer @ 04/03/2003 09:24 AM PST

nothing like cornish...real cream straight out of a cow.Ice cream and double with scones and strawberry jam

Posted by andrew murray @ 04/03/2003 09:25 AM PST

nothing like cornish...real cream straight out of a cow.Ice cream and double with scones and strawberry jam

Posted by andrew murray @ 04/03/2003 09:25 AM PST

Ah, Ice Cream -- something I'm passionate about! My favorite has to be Baskin & Robbins Chocolate Peanut Butter!

Jennifer, as for B & R's in Montreal -- I think there is one on Sherbrooke in the St. Leonard area.
For some odd reason, I'm craving St. Hubert roasted chicken! Really finger lickin' good.

Posted by Angela @ 04/03/2003 09:36 AM PST

Well, we had another very productive Career Exploration session today. We were going to do more interviews, but we got side-tracked and listened to the middle-aged hippie who's been out of work for twenty years tell us his life story. He's invented some kind of ultra-sound thingie, started some companies, and a bunch of other stuff. He's a regular Forest Gump. And then we all went to a job fair on campus. I attended a workshop-thingie with the guy who missed the first few classes because he got arrested, a bunch of Asian people, and some guy with bleached blond hair. I almost would have rather done more interviews.

Mmmmmm...... Ice cream! My favorites are any brand of mint chocolate chip, and Ben and Jerry's Phish Food. It's chocolate ice cream with caramel and marshmallow and chocolate fish. (Not actual fish. That would be nasty.)

Do you really think the Fig Newton is a great invention? It's not the Newton part that bothers me. In fact, I would say that I am pro-Newton (because a cookie is just a cookie, but a Newton is fruit and cake. How can you argue with that?) It's the fig part that bothers me. I never did tell you all what I learned about figs, but I guarantee that you will never want to eat another fig, in Newton form or otherwise.

Posted by Sandra @ 04/03/2003 09:38 AM PST

Angela, I'm assuming you mean Ben & Jerrys, when you gave the directions. I should look them up in the phone book. Cause I don't think I've seen any around here. Baskin and Robbins are everywhere. But most places only have 31 flavors, and I haven't found one I love (other than the chocolate mint chip).

Ha, BK knows to mention food and I'll be posting away all day.

Jennifer

Posted by Jennifer @ 04/03/2003 09:41 AM PST

My favorite ice cream would be a toss-up betweeen pistachio, chocolate chip, peach (if I'm feeling particularly spring-like that day), vanilla with bits of vanilla bean in it, swiss almond chocolate, dark cherry (if I'm feeling particularly fruity that day), cookies 'n' cream, tortoni, butter brickle, chocolate (if I'm feeling nostalgic that day), vanilla fudge, spumoni (on an indecisive day), and probably a few others.

One ice cream I enjoy after a Japanese meal is red bean ice cream. I know it's not more popular here than it is because it doesn't mesh with Americans' generally unadventurous taste in food, but it is quite good!

Posted by Jay @ 04/03/2003 09:56 AM PST

Dear Reader Sandra:

Are you sure you're not living a long lost episode of The Twilight Zone?

Posted by Jay @ 04/03/2003 09:57 AM PST

Dear Reader Andrew:

Welcome to HHW (I think)!

What is "double?"

And doesn't the cream from the cow come out warm? How does that relate to ice cream?

Posted by Jay @ 04/03/2003 10:00 AM PST

WEL: Who is it that makes Chocolate Rainbow? I checked the Breyers website just now, and they don't have it listed. It sounds scrumptious!

Posted by Lulu @ 04/03/2003 10:06 AM PST

Thank goodness I sat down to the computer with my Haagen-Daas coffee ice cream (yes Bruce, it's soupy). Must have known I would need it. I would be eating their coffee heath bar crunch if it hadn't been discontinued. I do love Baskin Robbins chocolate chip, chocolate and world class chocolate. I LOVE Carvel's which I can't get in Oregon. For those of you in the east who do get their cakes, try special ordering them with double chocolate crunchies. There is an old general store in Pennsylvania in the heart of Amish country. I believe the town is Stroudsburg. Has anyone had their homemade waffle cones as well as ice cream? Both are incredible. Two years ago I finally tasted ice cream in Italy. Italian chocolate chip ice cream beats everything else.

Posted by Jane @ 04/03/2003 10:42 AM PST

Lulu---
Did I say Bryers? I meant Beyers --- at least I think that's the name. I'll check when I get home. It may be a local NY brand.

By the way, Lulu, Ms. Fraser noticed when you left the chat room and asked if she had said something to offend you. BK explained that sometimes people get kicked out or have to leave early. Most of the chat was very interesting.

Posted by William E. Lurie @ 04/03/2003 10:49 AM PST

I forgot about Blums. Does anyone remember Blums? They were in Beverly Hills and San Francisco. Susan got me hooked on their coffee ice cream with marshmallow sauce and delicious coffee crunch things on top. For years after Blums closed I was still able to buy the topping in a can. Susan, do you remember the sundae? Did I leave anything out?

Posted by Jane @ 04/03/2003 10:52 AM PST

Ice Cream -- Haagen Dasz (sp?) is the best I've ever eaten (except for homemade).

I prefer the Vanilla and the Coffee flavors.

I don't like a lot of stuff in my ice cream...keep your chips and sprinkles and goo out of my cream.

I do like pistachio.

My favorite homemade creams have been peach, pineapple and banana (all separate, not together).

The Varese Sarabande CD Club is set to see four NEW releases being available as of Monday.

We won't know what they are until they are announced. I'm told not one Golden Age title is among them...which is a cause for despair. I was SO hoping for some treat from the CinemaScope era!

Still....new Club titles are not to be sneezed at!

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 04/03/2003 11:02 AM PST

OOOHHH!!! ICE CREAM!!!!

-And what a perfect topic for discussion today since it's 81 degrees here in Richmond, VA. It's hot! YEAH!

I just got back from the opening day of the 17th Street Farmer's Market, and, as I usually do when I go down there, my first stop is the man who sells goat cheese and sorbet. -I know, sounds like a weird combination, but that's what he sells - and he doesn't sell goat cheese ice cream, thank god!

Well, since he was out of the Lavendar Honey Gelato, I tried the Strawberry Sorbet with Cracked Black Pepper and Balsamic Vinegar. WOW! I've had that combination before as a fruit dessert, but never as a sorbet. The bite of the black pepper and the tang of the balsamico were great counterpoints to the fresh strawberry sorbet.. Hmmm... next week's flavor... probably Blackberry Lime.

In the land of real ice cream...

Breyer's: Butter Almond, Peach, Vanilla and the previously mentioned Chocolate Rainbow (Milk, Bittersweet, Dark, Mocha and White if I recall correctly)

Ben & Jerry's: Cherry Garcia, Phish Food, S'mores (in the "graveyard"), Coconut Almond Fudge Chip (I think this is the flavor that BK is referring to), Everything But the Kitchen Sink, One Sweet Whirled, New York Super Fudge Chunk, From Russia With Buzz ("graveyard"), Mandarin Chocolate ("graveyard"), Wavy Gravy ("graveyard"). -Although sometimes they bring back some of the "graveyard" flavors from time to time in "limited editions". -It's not like I'm obsessive about this stuff, is it?

-And it is amazing the number of flavors that B&J have gone through in their relatively short life. Their website is a lot of fun to check out.
http://www.benjerry.com

OH! And FREE cone day is April 29th this year!

Oh, and Baskin-Robbins' Daiquiri Ice and Jamocha Almond Fudge hold a special place in my palate.

I'm also partial to the Edy's (or Dreyer's) French Silk, Rocky Road and Espresso Chip.

I also like some of the Edy's Dreamery flavors, and Jeremy's Micro-Batch.

I used to buy Haggen Daaz normally, but after OD-ing on their Chocolate Peanut Butter Swirl... Although they have a great Hazelnut Gelato.

When I was working in Rock Island, IL, I would go to Whitey's at least three times a week. Great stuff! And as I've mentioned before, there's a small shop here in Richmond called Bev's which has some amazing stuff too! -Cinnabean (cinnamon ice cream with coffee beans), Dirty Chocolate (chocolate truffle), Pistachio Gelato, Espresso Oreo, Raspberry Chip, etc., etc., etc...

Hmmm... I'm about to head out for my run... I may have to swing by Bev's on the way back now. ;-)

Posted by Jose C. Simbulan @ 04/03/2003 11:03 AM PST

Jennifer, I could be incorrect as I'm getting forgetful in my old age...

Posted by Angela @ 04/03/2003 11:04 AM PST

I wish I could have been there for the chat. I had to see "The Who's Tommy" here and, even though it was a good production (not great, not bad), the show just doesn't grab me. I could never see it again and still live a complete life.

About ice cream:
Schwan's Chocolate Double Fudge Brownie Premium Plus is the best!

Breyer's Chocolate Rainbow is my next favorite. Mmmmmm.

Breyer's Natural Vanilla with Real Vanilla Bean Specks is my favorite plain vanilla brand. Sometimes you just the simple, unadorned, uncomplicated flavor of vanilla ice cream and nothing else.

Posted by George @ 04/03/2003 11:07 AM PST

Lulu: The Breyer's Chocolate Rainbow is on their Sherbet/Rainbow page.

Posted by Jose C. Simbulan @ 04/03/2003 11:07 AM PST

That's it...that's it! That is the end.

I have to tell you that it is officially now possible to gain weight by reading these Unseemly Messages.

Posted by Jrand52 @ 04/03/2003 11:08 AM PST

Well, the rabbit is back with Mr. Cavett and Charles Durning. Just saw this at Playbill On-Line

http://www.playbill.com/news/article/78800.html

Posted by Ben @ 04/03/2003 11:09 AM PST

Oh, dear. I'm sorry that my leaving made Alison think it was due to something she said. Nothing could be farther from the truth. I regretfully had to log out, as we had a little household emergency. :( I didn't return because I thought that would be even more intrusive. I'm really sorry if I tossed a monkeywrench in the works.

Thanks for the info on the ice cream.

Posted by Lulu @ 04/03/2003 11:29 AM PST

Baskin & Robbins Banana
Marshmallow (no, not seen for
years.)

And this morning's
Times-Picayune (New
Orleans) indicates that Dick
Cavett was VERY surprised to
hear he was doing the rabbit
play.

Posted by Kurt @ 04/03/2003 11:40 AM PST

Dick Cavett? Why I thought he was dead!

Posted by Ethel Chauvenet @ 04/03/2003 11:45 AM PST

Personally, I've never been the biggest fan of "Ice Cream." I mean, Barbara Cook sings it very well, but it seems to me to be a bit too plot specific. I much prefer "Glitter and Be Gay," which can be sung by many, many different people in many, many different situations. I've always wondered what it would sound like if sung by Samuel Ramey.

Oh, you mean the actual food? Sorry, my bad. Oompityfratz years ago, when I was still in college, I used to love pairing Baskin Robbins' Chocolate Fudge Brownie with their Apple Jack Ice (which was very red and very apple-tasting). Very yum.

Posted by S. Woody White @ 04/03/2003 11:49 AM PST

George,

Funny you should mention TOMMY. I am going to see a local production tomorrow night. I'll post a report after I see it.

If you want to read a review of the production, click on my name. Bear in mind that this company ALWAYS receives raves of this kind, regardless of their quality, so take it with a grain of salt.

Posted by Dave @ 04/03/2003 11:57 AM PST

Ahhh, Ice Cream....Is anything more delectable than ice cream?

Posted by Dave @ 04/03/2003 11:58 AM PST

Yes.

Me.

Posted by Joan Crawford @ 04/03/2003 12:04 PM PST

If only things could be the way they used to be.

If only I weren't in this chair.

Posted by Blanche Hudson @ 04/03/2003 12:07 PM PST

Butcha ARE in that chair, Blanche!

Ya ARE!!

Posted by Baby Jane Hudson @ 04/03/2003 12:07 PM PST

Eighteen Flavors from Where the Sidewalk Ends

Eighteen luscious, scrumptious flavors -
Chocolate, lime and cherry,
Coffee, pumpkin, fudge-banana,
Caramel cream and boysenberry,
Rocky road and toasted almond,
Butterscotch, vanilla dip,
Butter-brickle, apple ripple,
Coconut and mocha chip,
Brandy peach and lemon custard,
Each scoop lovely, smooth, and round,
Tallest ice cream cone in town,
Lying there (sniff) on the ground.

Posted by Shel Silverstein @ 04/03/2003 12:09 PM PST

Well, isn't THAT a nice thing to say?

Posted by Baby Ed @ 04/03/2003 12:09 PM PST

LOL Shel, Blanche, and Jane

Posted by Jrand52 @ 04/03/2003 12:11 PM PST

Here is a copy of what Cavett said from the Times-Picayune (mentioned by Kurt a few posts above)

"CAVETT IN 'HARVEY'?: Dick Cavett was open-mouthed with surprise when shown a report that he and Charles Durning would star in a Boston production of Mary Chase's classic comedy "Harvey," with Cavett as the tippling Elwood P. Dowd, whose best friend is a six-foot invisible rabbit and Durning as sanitarium sage Dr. Chumley, directed by Charles Nelson Reilly. "It's still in the talking stage," he said. "This is all very premature. Plus, I don't like the picture they ran! You think I can buy that back?"

Posted by Ben @ 04/03/2003 12:11 PM PST

re: HARVEY

I can see the ATC preview reviewers now criticizing the performance of HARVEY... and there's no one playing him!!!! lol

Posted by Craig @ 04/03/2003 12:15 PM PST

I trust you are all in mourning. As of today, www.joancrawfordonline.com -- the most splendid of the many, many websites devoted to the worship of ME -- no longer exists. Click on my name to see who now resides in my domain, and weep...weep for the future.

Bless you.

Posted by Joan Crawford @ 04/03/2003 12:17 PM PST

Dear, dear Mamacita...she tries so hard, but sometimes the darling simply isn't up to even the simple tasks I assign her. Click on my name this time, and you will indeed be whisked to the smoldering remains of what was once an electronic shrine to the magnificence of ME.

Posted by Joan Crawford @ 04/03/2003 12:19 PM PST

Yes, one can just imagine the little ATC trolls posting during intermission of the first preview, claiming that the "Harvey" of this revival can't compare to the original, and hoping that he improves before the show opens.

Then, of course, will commence the endless threads about who would be the "ultimate" Harvey, in the "dream cast" revival.

...which will somehow devolve into a debate over who is the bigger star/diva/bitch - Patti Lupone, Betty Buckley or Bernadette Peters?

Posted by Dave @ 04/03/2003 12:35 PM PST

Well... Two more miles today, and I resited swinging by the ice cream shop on the way home.. Of course, I still have that one layer in the Whitman's Sampler, and the bag of Starburst Jellybeans on the coffee table in front of me... Oh, and those chunks of Valhrona bittersweet chocolate in the kitchen... Ah, well... -I've decided to make Sundays my "chocolate days" - although sometimes I do start Saturday night...

And after thinking about flavors I posted earlier, a few more came to my mind, but I think I'll refrain from posting those in order to keep myself sane - and out of the chocolate.

Posted by Jose C. Simbulan @ 04/03/2003 12:50 PM PST

You are outdoing yourselves - keep up the good ice cream work. I'm having a heart attack not being able to partake of each and every one of them.

Posted by bk @ 04/03/2003 01:11 PM PST

I'm a pariah in my family. They
love ice cream--I prefer pudding
(especially My-T-Fine Chocolate
and Butterscotch--less
cholesterol too). But if the
only dessert available was ice
cream, there's none more
delectable than Breyer's Peach--
manna from the freez

Posted by Ludlow29@aol.com @ 04/03/2003 01:12 PM PST

Like everyone else, reading the posts reminds me of some other flavors I forgot to mention:

Ben & Jerry: Festivus (for the rest of us). Cinnamony good.

Baskin-Robbins: Peach melba: peach ice cream with raspberry swirl. And years ago they had a flavor called Rambling Rose, which tasted like roses--it was actually quite good.

I used to live across the street from a Baskin-Robbins (very dangerous location, that). I remember one Sunday night--in the age before cell phones--I had to call my sister from the payphone in the B-R and read her ALL 31 FLAVORS so she could decide what she wanted. The whole shop was laughing!

Posted by Pam @ 04/03/2003 01:16 PM PST

Note that when some kind of food is the topic there seems to be a lot more posts than usual (and from many people who don't regularly post).

Posted by William E. Lurie @ 04/03/2003 01:25 PM PST

Cruelty. I have been on a self-imposed ice-cream diet for eight weeks. Yes I have lost weight!
I would prefer ice-cream to cake any day. My favourites are rasberry and prune. I am lucky to live with someone who loves to make ice-cream. The perfect relationship - he makes I eat.
There is a song called "Eat The Ice- cream" in Kander & Ebb's "Over and Over". It is a change from Barbara Cook's beuatiful vanilla ice cream if you wish to taste something else.

Posted by Tom from Oz @ 04/03/2003 01:34 PM PST

Ahh, ice cream. A shameless
ploy to get a lot of posts
around here, but QUITE
effective!

For me, Ben & Jerry's Coffee
Heath Bar Crunch is pretty
hard to beat. Also a fan of
B&J's Everything But The...,
Peanut Butter Cup, and Mint
Chocolate Cookie.
Also can't go wrong with what I
enjoyed last night... Mocha
Almond Fudge ice cream with
a bit of Kahlua. Yum yum!

Posted by Jed @ 04/03/2003 01:45 PM PST

You think you always have the last word?

Do you, Mommie Dearest. DO YOU?

I'm not one of your FFAAAAAAAAAAAANNNSS!!!

Posted by Christina C. @ 04/03/2003 02:05 PM PST

Actually, Bernadette Peters is doing a great Harvey imitation onstage right now.

Posted by Rose Hovick @ 04/03/2003 02:06 PM PST

Don't f*** with me, Christina.

This ain't my first time at the rodeo.

Posted by Joanie Faye @ 04/03/2003 02:13 PM PST

Dave and Lulu,

Why aren't you two objecting to the anonymous posts today? I guess you only object to them when you think they are directed at you?

Posted by A Proxy @ 04/03/2003 03:12 PM PST

Angela,

Oh my goodness!! ST Hubert
Roasted Chicken is still
around ???? That sure brings
back memories of Montréal
and when i lived there, almost
some 30 years ago....

Well; it's no ice cream but
those chicken were great and I
usually had some apple pie
with ....ice cream for dessert.
My favorite spot was in the
Notre Dame de Grâce area, a
bloke -- or was two ? -- from a
swell movie theater....

Thanks for the memories,
Angela !

Posted by François @ 04/03/2003 03:12 PM PST

Oops,. sorry, Angela, my
memory is playing tricks, and
some dear readers know what
i'm talking about !! ;- )

The chicken place was
CHALET, not St Hubert.... and
we're out of topic anyway...

Is Chalet still around ?

As stated some weeks ago,
my favorite ice cream still is
Rhum-raisin from Haagen
Daz.............a flavor which, for
some reason, is not available
in my country.....

Posted by François @ 04/03/2003 03:18 PM PST

Anonymous posts ?? They're
ALL signed, some by dead
people, but they're signed
anyhow...

A Proxy, are married to Mative?

Posted by François @ 04/03/2003 03:22 PM PST

Please, read "are YOU
married..."

Posted by François @ 04/03/2003 03:23 PM PST

Anyone ever try the Godiva Cordials? Yep, that's right, ice cream with real liquers mixed in! One of my faves is the Bailey's Irish Cream flavor.

And in answer to Sandra's earlier post, I don't know about figs, but how many of you realize that honey is actually bee vomit?

Posted by Ray @ 04/03/2003 03:37 PM PST

Well, THANK YOU, Ray, for
putting us wise !

Come to think of it, my favorite
ice cream is Bee Vomit Swirl
with a Fig Newton Cookie.......

Posted by François @ 04/03/2003 03:49 PM PST

I LOVE that bee vomit thing !!!

Posted by Winnie-the-Pooh @ 04/03/2003 03:52 PM PST

Francois, are you talking about Suisse Chalet? That's the only chicken place i know of here that has "chalet" in the title. The one near me closed. I have no idea of there are others.

Right now there is Cote St luc BBQ and St Hubert.

Posted by Jennifer @ 04/03/2003 04:11 PM PST

This is my obligatory cryptic, pseudo-sinister comment that I'm sure will have tingles going up and down everybody's spines. I know what you're all thinking...hasn't Clever Anonymous Poster already rocked our worlds today? Well, I'm doing so again. So there. Let that be a lesson to you.

And despite what you may think, I'm *not* a pathetic schlub who earns subsistence wages, lives in his parents' basement and has never had intimate relations with another human being. Really, I'm not. Really. Please believe me.

Posted by A Fiendishly Clever Anonymous-Type Person @ 04/03/2003 04:27 PM PST

Yes, that was Suisse Chalet
and they used to carry the best
chicken I've ever had in my
life...

The closest in quality had to
be El Pollo Loco chain in
Florida, which doesn't exist
anymore either....

Posted by François @ 04/03/2003 04:29 PM PST

Francois, we have a place in Florida called Pollo Tropical (rotisserie-roasted chicken and cuban stuff like fried plantains, red beans and rice, etc.) and MAN, is that chicken good! Try it next time you're in the area.

Posted by Lulu @ 04/03/2003 04:33 PM PST

Tell me ?

April Fools is the FIRST day of
April, right ??

Posted by François @ 04/03/2003 04:34 PM PST

Lulu,

I guess Pollo Tropical is close
to what Pollo Loco was.... and
quite a nice change from
hamburger joints.......

Arriba, arriba !

Posted by François @ 04/03/2003 04:37 PM PST

Did I say butter pecan?

Who knew there were so many delightful flavors to try?

Posted by Jrand52 @ 04/03/2003 04:48 PM PST

I think my Cockney is better
than my English !!!

A few posts above, I typed
"bloke" instead of block...
which you all corrected I'm
sure... LOL.

Posted by François @ 04/03/2003 05:03 PM PST

I prefer "bloke". I guess that's a "fig" thing.

Posted by Tom from Oz @ 04/03/2003 06:00 PM PST

Francois, I'm not sure if Suisse Chalet was the best. I don't really like BBQ chicken. But their fries were to die for!

Btw, is anybody else going out of their mind wanting ice cream. I am craving it so bad right now. It's sort of like my friend who goes to lunch every Friday. Well he always tells me what they are having (chinese or subway ...) and then I end up craving that type of food all day until I finally get it.

I want ice cream, and i want it now!!!

Posted by Jennifer @ 04/03/2003 06:34 PM PST

All this talk about FIGS!!!!
Reminds us of the un-rhymed verses of D. H. Lawrence:

The proper way to eat a fig, in society,
Is to split it in four, holding it by the stump,
And open it, so that it is a glittering, rosy, moist, honied, heavy-petalled four-petalled flower.

Then you throw away the skin
Which is just like a four-sepalled calyx,
After you have taken off the blossom with your lips.

But the vulgar way
Is just to put your mouth to the crack, and take out the flesh in one bite.

Every fruit has its secret.

The fig is a very secretive fruit.
As you see it standing growing, you feel at once it is symbolic:
And it seems male.
But when you come to know it better, you agree with the Romans, it is female.

The Italians vulgarly say, it stands for the female part; the fig-fruit:
The fissure, the yoni,
The wonderful moist conductivity towards the centre.

Involved,
Inturned,
The flowering all inward and womb-fibrilled;
And but one orifice.

The fig, the horse-shoe, the squash-blossom.
Symbols.

There was a flower that flowered inward, womb-ward;
Now there is a fruit like a ripe womb.

It was always a secret.
That's how it should be, the female should always be secret.

There never was any standing aloft and unfolded on a bough
Like other flowers, in a revelation of petals;
Silver-pink peach, venetian green glass of medlars and sorb-apples,
Shallow wine-cups on short, bulging stems
Openly pledging heaven:
Here's to the thorn in flower! Here is to Utterance!
The brave, adventurous rosaceæ.

Folded upon itself, and secret unutterable,
And milky-sapped, sap that curdles milk and makes ricotta,
Sap that smells strange on your fingers, that even goats won't taste it;
Folded upon itself, enclosed like any Mohammedan woman,
Its nakedness all within-walls, its flowering forever unseen,
One small way of access only, and this close-curtained from the light;
Fig, fruit of the female mystery, covert and inward,
Mediterranean fruit, with your covert nakedness,
Where everything happens invisible, flowering and fertilisation, and fruiting
In the inwardness of your you, that eye will never see
Till it's finished, and you're over-ripe, and you burst to give up your ghost.

Till the drop of ripeness exudes,
And the year is over.

And then the fig has kept her secret long enough.
So it explodes, and you see through the fissure the scarlet.
And the fig is finished, the year is over.

That's how the fig dies, showing her crimson through the purple slit
Like a wound, the exposure of her secret, on the open day.
Like a prostitute, the bursten fig, making a show of her secret.

That's how women die too.

The year is fallen over-ripe,
The year of our women.
The year of our women is fallen over-ripe.
The secret is laid bare.
And rottenness soon sets in.
The year of our women is fallen over-ripe.

When Eve once knew in her mind that she was naked
She quickly sewed fig-leaves, and sewed the same for the man.
She'd been naked all her days before,
But till then, till that apple of knowledge, she hadn't had the fact on her mind.

She got the fact on her mind, and quickly sewed fig-leaves.
And women have been sewing ever since.
But now they stitch to adorn the bursten fig, not to cover it.
They have their nakedness more than ever on their mind,
And they won't let us forget it.

Now, the secret
Becomes an affirmation through moist, scarlet lips
That laugh at the Lord's indignation.

What then, good Lord! cry the women.
We have kept our secret long enough.
We are a ripe fig.
Let us burst into affirmation.

They forget, ripe figs won't keep.
Ripe figs won't keep.

Honey-white figs of the north, black figs with scarlet inside, of the south.
Ripe figs won't keep, won't keep in any clime.
What then, when women the world over have all bursten into self-assertion?
And bursten figs won't keep?

Posted by Ursula and Gudrun @ 04/03/2003 07:00 PM PST

Whence the expression "I don't give a feather or a fig"?

Note: D.R. Kerry and I long ascertained that the expression is "Whence" and not "from whence" as the "from" is redundant.

This site will be wonderful for fig searchers.

Posted by Tom from Oz @ 04/03/2003 07:43 PM PST

A lull.

Posted by A Kvetch @ 04/03/2003 08:39 PM PST

So... Of course, as I'm walking out of the tech rehearsal tonight - and we got through the whole show - what foodstuff was I craving? -By the spoonful, by the scoop, by the cup, by the pint, by the waffle cone, by the half gallon... Any and all flavors! -With hot fudge AND caramel sauce!!!! And walnuts - wet or dry... Crushed Butterfinger candy bars... Toasted Coconut... Salted peanuts... Marshmallow fluff... Chocolate and Rainbow Jimmies... and Whipped Cream! OH, and the maraschino cherry on top!

Stop the madness!

-Instead, when I got back to the apartment, I had a few sliced of the chile-rubbed pork tenderloin I made earlier and some marinated asparagus... But come Sunday... Watch out!

Posted by Jose C. Simbulan @ 04/03/2003 09:12 PM PST

-A few "slices" - duh!

Posted by Jose C. Simbulan @ 04/03/2003 09:13 PM PST

The second verse of Rage Against The Machine's "Bulls On Parade" reminds me of the episode of TZ with Burgess Meredith ("Time Enough At Last"):

Weapons not food, not homes, not shoes
Not need, just feed the war cannibal animal
I walk tha corner to tha rubble
that used to be a library
Line up to tha mind cemetary now!
What we don't know keeps tha contracts alive an movin'
They don't gotta burn tha books they just remove 'em
While arms warehouses fill as quick as tha cells
Rally round tha family, pockets full of shells

Rally round tha family
With a pocket full of shells
They rally round tha family
With a pocket full of shells
They rally round tha family
With a pocket full of shells
They rally round tha family
With a pocket full of shells

Quit it now

Posted by The Peace Train @ 04/03/2003 10:06 PM PST

I love ice cream but rarely eat it. Too much sugar and fat. Yes, I know I can get the no-fat no-sugar kind -- but why bother?

Posted by Laura @ 04/03/2003 10:10 PM PST

But ya know -- some nice pickle ice cream would taste good about now.

Posted by Laura @ 04/03/2003 11:10 PM PST

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh Laura, you crack me up
just as much as your daughter
does!

Posted by Jed @ 04/03/2003 11:37 PM PST

Hmmmmm...is it Friday yet?

Posted by Jrand52 @ 04/04/2003 02:24 AM PST

Hmmmmm...is it Friday yet?

Posted by Jrand52 @ 04/04/2003 02:24 AM PST

Good morning Flower Children --

Jai Guru Deva Om

Posted by Across The Universe @ 04/04/2003 03:03 AM PST

Did anybody see Brent in CAMELOT yet?

Posted by Jrand52 @ 04/04/2003 05:29 AM PST

Oh wait...it opened on Wednesday, maybe the second act isn't over yet. 8-D

Posted by Jrand52 @ 04/04/2003 05:30 AM PST

It opens tonight Jrand. It's been in previews. Check out the interview on Broadwaystars.Com where Peter Filicia refers to BB as "The King of revivals"!

Posted by William E. Lurie @ 04/04/2003 06:14 AM PST

Thanks, Bill!

Posted by Jrand52 @ 04/04/2003 06:22 AM PST