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06/17/2003:
"THE DISAPPEARING THREAD"

Photo of Bruce Kimmel

bk's notes II

Well, dear readers, you won’t believe it – I could barely believe it myself and yet it is true. I told you yesterday that the interview I did with our very own Mr. Craig Brockman over at www.broadwayworld.com had caused the owner of a popular chat board to post some really nasty comments – nasty in a very personal way. Now, those who read the comment thought it was a little over-the-top, a little too much, but the comment stayed, and our very own Craig Brockman went in and posted a very thoughtful response. Then someone came in and posted the exact same kind of nasty personal type of comment but this time directed at the owner of the board – there was nothing different in the tenor of his post (or even the alto and soprano of his post) it just basically gave the guy back a little of his own medicine. Well, guess what? The entire thread magically disappeared. Why? Well, I’ll tell you why, dear readers, because why should I not tell you why once I have asked why? It disappeared because these people can dish it out but they cannot take it. The comment that caused the removal of the thread was made by one of their regular posters – not someone I know. I’m sure their reasoning would be well it was getting personal and that’s against their terms of service. Hogwash. If that was the case, then they should have taken down the thread the minute the owner made his rather nasty and personal comments about the interview. And it is indicative of everything that goes on there. If people on that board, as they’ve been known to do, write bitchy scathing and hurtful comments about actors or shows or whatever, when they are criticized for it publicly they cry out like stuck pigs and say things like it was just my opinion and I have the right to make it, I have the right to trash a show mercilessly after seeing the first preview, blah, blah, blah. Okay, so you have the right. Then others have the right to come on and criticize you and, if they so choose, to call you a creep for doing it, because that is their opinion and they have the right to express it. The amusing thing about all this was that just a few days before the very same owner of that board was crowing about how they have no censorship. Oh? It’s okay to have censorship and to remove threads because they suddenly are negative about the owner and the site, but don’t crow about how there is no censorship when there most obviously is.

I myself have removed a post here once, which I felt was just nasty for nasty’s sake, and the fact is I was criticized for doing it and I responded that I wouldn’t allow nasty posts or hurtful posts that may have caused grief for a dear reader. In other words, I stated my point of view. Since that time, I have not removed any posts ever, because even when uncouth interlopers showed up and tried to cause problems, we all just dealt with it in our own way and eventually it all calmed down and was fine.

In any case, I was not upset by the removal of the thread, but I was amused by it because it is so typical. It seems one simply cannot take on the Internet and these types of people – they just can’t take the criticism but, as I said earlier, those who can dish it should be able to take it.

This Thursday and Friday I’ll be recording two more vocals for our new CD – the delicious Sharon McNight on Thursday and the delectable Tami Tappan on Friday. Then the following Wednesday we’ll record Jason Graae, Michelle Nicastro and Katherine Helmond and we’ll be done, done, done (that is three dones, which might be overdone). Isn’t that exciting? Isn’t that just too too?

Well, why don’t we all click on the Unseemly Button below before I remove the entire first part of these notes because I’ve decided I may not like the tenor, alto or soprano of them.

All that talk of fast food made me so hungry that I went out last night and got onion rings and a salad at Jack-in-the-box. The onion rings were, as always, delicious, but it was the salad that surprised me. They have three new au courant salads and I got the chicken club and it was great. I’ll be having another one today. It had chicken, bacon, cheese, tomatoes and cucumbers, seemed very fresh and their bacon ranch dressing was quite yummy. However, I didn’t see any club in the salad and if they’re going to call it a chicken club they should really include the club, don’t you think?

Well, dear readers, I must take the day, I must do the things I do, I must do errands and make calls and write and whatnot. I must try to catch up on my CD listening and my DVD watching, not necessarily in that order. Today’s topic of discussion: Who were your favorite classic early rock-and-roll singers, and what were your favorite songs that they sang? Those who’ve read my books know my choices, but I’ll name a couple anyway – Ricky Nelson (Poor Little Fool), Bobby Darin (Splish-Splash), The Platters (Smoke Gets in Your Eyes), Fats Domino (Blueberry Hill), Tab Hunter (Young Love), Tommy Edwards (It’s all in the Game), and on and on. Your turn. And if you feel like it, we can, of course, have a fashion call and a food call as well. Post away, my pretties, and I’ll check back often.

- Bruce Kimmel



Replies: 139 Unseemly Comments


Anything by Sam Cooke or Jackie Wilson, but if I had to offer some favourites, I might suggest "Another Saturday Night" and "Reet Petite", respectively.

Posted by Dave @ 06/17/2003 09:19 AM PST


Oh what a fickle website that is indeed! Almost as if they have an identity crisis sometimes. Which is a shame, because honestly, there are some great posters over there who share keen insights into the world of theater.

In brief, for those that missed the exchange, one of the owners accused the interview as being a complete shill, boring, stupid, and accused Bruce of being a "Hollywood Type" who is into promoting himself endlessly. This poster also was annoyed at BK's comment about the internet and eludes to the fact that BK is a hypocrite for using said tool.

I responded in kind with, "Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion - but I thought I would respond to your post..

Bruce did not ask me to do an interview, nor did he prompt me with any questions to ask him. He has been interviewing people on his site for over a year now and I thought it would be fun to turn the tables and have him answer similar questions. I could see if the interview was posted on his site, that it would be self promoting (but then again, his website is his journal, so that point is moot).. but before I even asked Bruce to do the interview I contacted Rob with BroadwayWorld.com to see if that's something he'd be interested in and he loved the idea.

It can be said (albeit arguably) that ANY interview is self promoting. When you ask people questions about their life, they are, in fact, promoting their accomplishments.

Like I said above - everyone is entitled to their opinion. I have actually received several comments from people that they thought the interview was interesting and that Bruce really opened up about things he hasn't before - such as his process, the state of broadway today and so on.

As for Bruce (not that I need to come to his defense) I would consider him MUCH more a BROADWAY type then a Hollywood type. His passion has always been the theater. But perhaps you missed that aspect of the interview.

And as for the internet - he doesn't slam the entire net. He expresses his distaste for what it's done for both film and theater."

Another poster then responded with at least an intellectual type argument stating (I'm paraphrasing of course) that the internet is a microcosm (sp?) basically and that one shouldn't expect it to be utopian and for everyone to get along. The poster also stated that, clearly Bruce utilized the internet (as we all know) to get the word out, so he found BK's comments a little hypocritical. As I stated in the interview and above, BK doesn't discount ALLLL of the internet.. just aspects of it.

And as for the post that got the whole thread deleted off the board. In short (with permission of the person who posted this)...it said (sarcastically) that he was much more interested in the inane ramblings of someone in the middle of nowhere who's accomplishment is buying a domain name and starting a message board, rather than someone "who's actually accomplished a great deal and who's a part of the fabric of history and the mechanizations of Broadway."

He then said that "Bruce CAN promote and be interviewed and talk about his body of past and future work because he's an active participant" and capped it by commenting that the owner couldn't because "you do nothing and are irrelevant"

So there.. that is the whole ugly truth. And ugly it is!

Posted by Craig @ 06/17/2003 09:24 AM PST


How can I be hungry already?

Ah yes - closing night I tell everyone take everything home with you. After tonight I will not know where anything is. You MUST take everything with you tonight... So today three emails? Where is my throw rug from the pit? Where is my tube of hair gel? Where is my lawn chair? I do NOT KNOW. These things have disappeared or they have gone home with someone else. Does anyone else know where these things are?

ANYWAY....hmmmmmmm....good choices already. But I will add:

Miss Connie Francis and LIPSTICK ON YOUR COLLAR and EVERYBODY'S SOMEBODY'S FOOL.

Miss Annette Funicello - TALL PAUL

Mr Ricky Nelson - TEEN AGE IDOL and HELLO MARY LOU

Elvis Presley - TEDDY BEAR

Danny & the Juniors - AT THE HOP

Posted by Jrand52 @ 06/17/2003 09:25 AM PST


Incidently... the interview has been read over 560 times.. and that's nothing to sneeze at. Bruce.. what IS something that one sneezes at?

Posted by Craig @ 06/17/2003 09:32 AM PST


It's my understanding that the expression "nothing to sneeze at" referred to the usage of snuff which A) made you sneeze and B) would be dipped into when the conversation got boring. But that may be apocryphal.

Posted by Christopher @ 06/17/2003 09:48 AM PST


Thank you Christopher for enlightening us! And thanks for your comment on sondheim.com about the interview too...

Posted by Craig @ 06/17/2003 09:59 AM PST


All this talk about comments about the interview on "another site" causes me to aks what site it was. I thought there was only one site that didn't get named here at HHW and the last time I looked --- months ago --- there was no board for readers to post. Plus it's common knowledge that their chat room never attracts more than three people regardless of the guest. I thought Bruce's interview was a great way for new readers to get to know BK. Nothing much was new to me because I am a longtime fan, but there was nothing offensive or self-serving about it either. I'm a little tired of reading about comments on some nameless site. Let's either name the site or stop commenting on it.

Posted by William E. Lurie @ 06/17/2003 10:24 AM PST


When it comes to classic rock and roll, I don't know nuttin. (Hangs head in shame.) No, really, my mother refused to let us listen to any of it, because it gave her "headaches." So I really don't have any opinions about the early singers. (The good news is that, instead of listening to rock and roll I spent my time listening to show tunes! It wasn't a wasted youth, after all!)

My ever-lovin' der Brucer, on the other hand, remembers the music of those times very well. However, since we were both up late last night, he's still asleep, so we'll have to get his opinions later.

PS, to DR Craig: You can add one more to the number of times the interview has been read. I printed out a hard copy for der Brucer to read. Maybe we should have a few copies available at the Bookfellows event on Saturday, in case anyone there hasn't read it yet?

Posted by S. Woody White @ 06/17/2003 10:26 AM PST


WEL, I think (and I'm sure I'll be corrected if I'm wrong) that the site in question is the Talkin' Broadway site that was mentioned in the Connecticut newspaper article that BK pointed us to the other day.

BTW, Welcome to the newbies! :)

Posted by Lulu @ 06/17/2003 10:51 AM PST


I agree, Craig, that any interview is self promoting. How can it not be?! Isn't that the point?! But really, the only thing that matters is that BK is happy and satisfied and proud of his accomplishments. I know that I am very proud to have such a talented, gifted, funny, loving man as my father! So those people with nasty comments better back off, or they will have to answer to me!! :) OK - I'm done with that.

I must apologize for being so errant and truant the past few weeks. It has been quite the time for changes in my life at the moment. I won't bore you with all the details, but I am very excited to be moving back to the West coast - YIPPEE!! This should be happening around September, so I will probably continue to be a little errant & truant while I prepare for this major event.

As for today's topic, I would have to say that The Temptations have always been one of my favorites, along with Buddy Holly. And of course, the Rolling Stones (a little later), which I had the priviledge of seeing last year.

Posted by JB aka JK @ 06/17/2003 10:52 AM PST


I too, am curious about this deleted thread. While I have no desire to hear unkind comments about Bruce, my interest was piqued when DR Jennifer mentioned that someone with my initials (VJ) was harsh. I'm wondering who this other VJ is.

Posted by Vincent Jan @ 06/17/2003 10:54 AM PST


RE: Fave early rockers

Chuck Berry: Maybelline
The Platters: Twilight Time or My Prayer (tie)
Fats Domino: Ain't That a Shame
Dee Clark: Raindrops
Gene Vincent: Be-bop-a-lula
Elvis Presley: Heartbreak Hotel
Tommy Edwards: All in the Game
The Flamingos: I Only Have Eyes for You
Little Richard: Tutti-Frutti

And just...oh, I don't know. Way too many to list. :)

Posted by Lulu @ 06/17/2003 10:57 AM PST


Just a quick follow-up on yesterday’s posts, since I was unable to read any of them after about noon yesterday….. How could I possibly have talked about fast food and not mentioned Nathan’s??? (Probably because I can’t eat at any of them unless I head back to the east coast for a visit.) A couple of their dogs with chili or kraut and I am in heaven.

Jed - I was thrilled to learn that the Campus U Tote Em is still open in Ellensburg. Most of my rather limited college budget was spent on late-night deliveries of their great hamburgers and fries.

George - You brought me good luck! I was just reading your posting from yesterday, when my boss came up and gave me a “Buy One, Get One Free” coupon from Taco Del Mar where her daughter works. Thanks, I love that place, also.

(I believe that, so far, I have used the word “love” in every reference I have ever made to food on this site)

*
As for music, anything by Connie Francis or The Supremes brings back wonderful memories, with my favorites being “Who’s Sorry Now” for Connie and I Hear A Symphony” for Miss Diana.

Welcome to the newcomers. I Think You're Gonna Like It Here. (An Annie reference)

Posted by TCB @ 06/17/2003 11:04 AM PST


How on earth could I have forgotten Screamin' Jay Hawkins and "I Put a Spell On You"???

Posted by Lulu @ 06/17/2003 11:04 AM PST


I've tried to forget about Screamin' Jay Hawkins!

Posted by TCB @ 06/17/2003 11:06 AM PST


I'll repeat what others have said

Buddy Holly
Little Richard
Gene Vincent
Bill Haley and the Comets
The Dominoes

As Lulu says, there are just so many. It's hard to name them all.

Posted by Ben @ 06/17/2003 11:07 AM PST


Why, TCB, I'm shocked! Shocked, I tell you! I love Screamin' Jay, God rest his eccentric little soul. Perhaps you've just never heard the right song of his...?

Posted by Lulu @ 06/17/2003 11:09 AM PST


Part of the reason that I like this place so much is that it is so damned refreshingly pleasant. Everyone seems to like and to respect everyone else, which is great. I am also a regular poster on All That Chat, and the intelligent and incisive posts are so often read side by side (a Company reference) with nasty ones or personal attacks. It gets really tiring after a while.

As for the topic of the day, I don't have much to say being mostly a show tune gal myself. But Connie Francis is great, Lesley Gore, and I like some Elvis (my favorite song being Heartbreak Hotel). Would some of the stuff that Louis Prima and Keely Smith did count as early Rock n Roll? I like them a lot.

Posted by Maya @ 06/17/2003 11:13 AM PST


They just announced additions to the final Broadway by the Year (1925) of the season and they include two BK regulars: Emily Skinner and Jason Graae. If you are going to be in NYC this Monday (6/23) this should be a do not miss proposition. This is a repeat (with a partially different cast) of the concert that went on to a very tiny audience the night NYC had its biggest snowstorm in 20 years. They were nice enough to rechedule it and offer subscribers who missed it new tickets to the replacement.

Posted by William E. Lurie @ 06/17/2003 11:14 AM PST


JB/JK: Fab news about you returning to the West Coast. Want to share the reason with us...? :)

Posted by Lulu @ 06/17/2003 11:35 AM PST


Well then, Lulu, you would love the mysterious album that keeps popping up on Imperial Records archive lists, but which simply CANNOT exist, or if it does, I want a copy:

Frances Farmer Swings Fats Domino

Posted by Jrand52 @ 06/17/2003 11:43 AM PST


Oh, my GOD! I'm finally online!

A guy in the cast here actually owns an internet cafe, and he's allowing me to check my mail for free. Isn't that cool?

Anyway, things here in PA are going swimmingly...and I mean that literally. The nine days we were in Mountainhome, it rained every single day. The living accomodations there are HEINOUS, but the accomodations here in New Hope are much more acceptable.

I don't know how in the world we're going to get this show up by tomorrow. The set isn't anywhere near done, my costumes haven't come in yet and most of the ensemble members missed at least the first five days of rehearsal. BUT...I love most of the people I'm working with. My roommates in Mountainhome have turned out to be my closest buddies.

Oh, and by the way, Jose...Diggle says hi and that he wants you to get us in CHILDREN OF EDEN. :-) He's a really, really nice guy and we've had some great late-night discussions (which are, by leaps and bounds, much more intelligent than what some of the younger cast members talk about.)

I truly feel isolated from the world living out here, but its fun at the same time.

Anywho, I better run for now.

DR Laura: I want you to know that I AM the envy of the whole cast...I got a postcard on our first day of rehearsal! :-)

Miss you guys!!

Posted by Jason @ 06/17/2003 11:45 AM PST


Damn, Hell and Tarnation!

I always miss the good stuff while it's going on.

I went to the interview yesterday and read it (I'm one of that number) but I could find no messageboard or forum where it was being discussed.

I logged in, signed away my life to be able to do that, and found nuttin'.

Now it's gone -- cursed by censorship of one who apparently hates TRUTH to be known.

Thanks, Craig, for reconstructing what you remember.

Please point me in the direction of the discussion group so that I can join it, post a spiteful 1st Amendment post, and depart gracefully!

: )

R

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 06/17/2003 11:46 AM PST


My friend, Kathryn (and Brian Kelly, too), are sitting next to me at the cafe. They say to tell you all hello.

Posted by Jason @ 06/17/2003 11:46 AM PST


I didn't listen very much at all to any rock and roll...only The Manhattan Transfer who have recorded and were at times influenced by early rock and rollers. So there.

Anyway, Playbill.com has announced that Variety reports that Stephen Spielberg and DreamWorks are interested in filming Stephen Sondheim's "Sweeney Todd"! Click on my name for the article.

So, opinions? Is this a good thing? A bad thing? Discuss?

Posted by George @ 06/17/2003 11:52 AM PST


DR Lulu _ Please forgive me for being facetious. I have no real dislike for any of Screamin’ Jay’s songs, but I would still not include him in my personal Top Ten. My tastes were always a little less rockin’and a little more rollin’. Sorry about that.

Posted by TCB @ 06/17/2003 11:55 AM PST


AND: good to hear from you, Jason! Also, did I ever send you my address for the Vampire and Moby Dick CDs? If I didn't, is it too late (knowing that if it isn't too late that I will probably have to wait until you get out of PA before I might get them)?

Posted by George @ 06/17/2003 11:57 AM PST


Aha! I've got you dead to rights, Jrand. Or should I say...

Music Historian!

(duh-duh-DUUUUUUUUUHNNNNNN!)

(refer to the 1/31/2003 notes for illumination.)

Posted by Lulu @ 06/17/2003 11:59 AM PST


Jason!!!

Forgive me for asking.. but which tracks on Moby do you perform on?

thanks!! and I'll be calling you soon...

Posted by Craig @ 06/17/2003 12:00 PM PST


As others have pointed out, the thread appeared on a site called Talkin' Broadway, on their chat board All that Chat. The nasty response was made by one of the owners of the site - V.J. His nasty comment was apparently fine - when someone gave him a little of his own back it was not fine and it was pulled. Craig has encapsulated what went down up above a few posts ago.

I can tell you the reason my darling daughter is moving back to the West Coast - to be closer to her FATHER, that's why.

Posted by bk @ 06/17/2003 12:00 PM PST


Jason! Good to hear from you. We've missed having you here. Which show opens first?

Boy, you think your friends were jealous before, wait until you get a post card from Tacoma, Washington!!

Posted by TCB @ 06/17/2003 12:00 PM PST


Craig: I'm on "Nantuckettown..."
("No! A travelling harpooner took the last room, sir...")

"Love Will Always Reprise" ("More time to kill but your time's near...")

and

"Heave 2" ("That's not the last you'll see of me tonight...mwah ha ha")

George: I haven't been able to mail anything out yet. I will when I get home (assuming I have any money left!)

Posted by Jason @ 06/17/2003 12:02 PM PST


Jason - Tell Brian Kelly that I loved him in Flipper.

Posted by TCB @ 06/17/2003 12:03 PM PST


TCB: We open TITANIC tomorrow and SCARLET PIMPERNEL on July 9th. Then we move up to the Pocono Playhouse and do them in reverse order, but for a shorter run.

Looking forward to the card!!

Posted by Jason @ 06/17/2003 12:04 PM PST


DR George--I am somewhat scared at the prospect of a big screen Speilberg-directed Sweeney. Reasons:

1. Speilberg is completely wrong for the job. Tim Burton or Martin Scorcese would do it much better justice.

2. In all probability, the score will be hacked up a bit, although the idea that Sondheim may write a new song or two is very exciting.

3. The cast. How are they going to cast this? Sweeney isn't commercial along the lines of Chicago and to make up for this they're going to need to cast "big names." I shudder at the thought of seeing Vin Diesel as Sweeney or Britney Spears as Johanna. I mean I doubt they would cast it that horrifically, but I hope they can get box office draws who are suitable for the parts and who can actually sing.

But maybe if this movie ever gets made it will be terrific, and I hope that it will be.

Posted by Maya @ 06/17/2003 12:05 PM PST


Yes, Music historian, where is my copy of FF Swings FD?

Posted by Jrand52 @ 06/17/2003 12:05 PM PST


Oops...forgot to say break a leg to Jason!

Posted by Maya @ 06/17/2003 12:06 PM PST


Well, BK, I figured that was the reason she was *glad* to be returning to the West Coast. But I thought maybe there was another reason that she was actually moving back. Like a fancy-schmancy new career or something. That's why I asked.

I'm sure that given our druthers, every manjack (or perhaps I should say every hainesiekimlet) of us would drop everything and zip right out to the West Coast just to be the teensiest bit closer to you...

(the above paragraph can be printed out and stored away for future use as an ipecac in case of accidental poisoning or swallowing of a foreign object.)

Posted by Lulu @ 06/17/2003 12:06 PM PST


Jason, I thought you had fled the coop, which is why I didn't say hello. Now you keep posting here, again and again! Making me look like a heel. How dare you!

So hello, hello, hello! Hope you're having oodles of fun in Pennsylvania. A friend of mine left for Madagascar today. He'll be there for at least 2 years (he's in the Peace Corps). Think of him when you are upset about your accommodations! I guarantee you'll feel better instantly. :)

Posted by Lulu @ 06/17/2003 12:09 PM PST


DR Jason: Good to hear from you. Glad that PA is not totally a wash. Break the proverbial leg on opening.

DR TCB: According to the U.S. Postal Service the package arrived in Tacoma this morning so you should probably have it in tomorrow's mail.

Mr. Feltham: Great Father's Day show. I'm just listening to the end now. Good choices and lots of fun stuff!

Posted by Ben @ 06/17/2003 12:10 PM PST


Happy Sailing, Jason!

Posted by Jrand52 @ 06/17/2003 12:11 PM PST


Sail on! Sail on!!
Great ship...Titanic...

Sorry...just practicing my lines.

Posted by Jason @ 06/17/2003 12:12 PM PST


Nice try, Jrand, but I now know your Terrible Secret (not unlike Jimmy Stewart's in The Greatest Show on Earth, in which he portrays The Clown With a Terrible Secret). Music Historian IS, in fact, YOU! Yes, YOU, sir!

How do I know this? Because obviously TWO people could not exist in the world who know of the existence of Frances Farmer Swings Fats Domino. THAT'S why.

Posting here under an assumed name. The sheer, unmitigated gall! I am shocked (for the second time today, mind you) and appalled.

I only hope and pray that one day I can venture out into the world again, my heart innocent (though not quite as innocent as before), my perspective relatively unsullied. One day...when I've learned once more something that is at present lost to me. How to TRUST.

Posted by Lulu @ 06/17/2003 12:15 PM PST


I learned about said album from DR JMK.

Posted by Jrand52 @ 06/17/2003 12:35 PM PST


oh.

never mind.

Posted by Lulu @ 06/17/2003 12:37 PM PST


LOL! Oh Lulu, are you trying to
unseat Sandra as our local
laugh-a-minute lady? You're
cracking me up today!

Jason - Wonderful to hear
from you. Break a leg, and
best wishes for the remainder
of your time in PA.

Posted by Jed @ 06/17/2003 12:38 PM PST


Hi Jason -

Glad to hear all's wet & wild in New Hope. Re not being ready for opening nite - is ANY show ever "ready"??

Misplaced your summer addresses - please email them to me so I can send on a postcard or two.

I can send WEL a copy of "Moby Dick" if you don't have access to your copies.

And to all - thanks for the good wishes last week, but neither No.1 son nor I got major parts in Centerstage's "Music Man". I will be in the quartet, which is some consolation (high B flats here we come!). How I lost out for Harold Hill (according to the director) - "too old" ARRRRGH!

Posted by Phil @ 06/17/2003 12:42 PM PST


Hi Jason -

Glad to hear all's wet & wild in New Hope. Re not being ready for opening nite - is ANY show ever "ready"??

Misplaced your summer addresses - please email them to me so I can send on a postcard or two.

I can send WEL a copy of "Moby Dick" if you don't have access to your copies.

And to all - thanks for the good wishes last week, but neither No.1 son nor I got major parts in Centerstage's "Music Man". I will be in the quartet, which is some consolation (high B flats here we come!). How I lost out for Harold Hill (according to the director) - "too old" ARRRRGH!

Posted by Phil @ 06/17/2003 12:42 PM PST


Ironic, that whenever the conversation turns to censorship and nastiness, one of the Dear Readers (no names, please) is always quick to bring up a certain chat room where the tone is always friendly and positive. That he can offer an estimate on the average number of participants there clears up the identity of that site's primary lurker.

While I applaud BK's efforts to keep this site equally positive, the recent post-Tony conversations, especially concerning Bernadette Peters and Stokes Mitchell (two of the musical theatre's greatest talents) were positively nasty.

BK will be mad at me for posting -- I am the only person officially banned from this site -- but I do enjoy being remembered every once in awhile, so I offer my thanks.

Incidentally, as I am sure he is aware, both Tami Damiano and I had some nice things to say about him last week. Here's hoping that the positive vibes will one day flow both ways.

As for the question of the day, since BK and I have almost identical tastes, I can safely ditto all six of his selections and add Connie Stevens' "Why Try To Change Me Now?" Not a hit single, but my favorite track from not one but two of her albums.

From your ever loyal and Dear Reader --

Posted by Robert Armin @ 06/17/2003 12:42 PM PST


Whatever.

Posted by Rachael @ 06/17/2003 12:44 PM PST


Phil -isn't casting a funny thing?

Quartet roles are nothing to sneeze at (see Christopher's explanation above) and they usually get some nice work in the train song at the beginning as well.

Lulu - NO you are right, I am Music Historian!

Posted by Jrand52 @ 06/17/2003 12:45 PM PST


Robert,

My "Whatever" was not in response to your post. It was in response to Bruce's Notes of today.

Posted by Rachael @ 06/17/2003 12:46 PM PST


Jason,
Is that really THE Brian Kelly that you are sitting with? I have been trying, and trying these last few months to get a message through to him to find out if he would like to do an interview for a featured article on his acting career.

If you don't mind maybe you could e-mail me and I could contact him through you!

I have been a fan of his since I was 5 years old and when I started interviewing celebrities of the past he was in my top 3 of people I wanted to interview.

Michael Barnum

Posted by MBarnum @ 06/17/2003 12:49 PM PST


Just a reminder.

Don't feed the animals.

Posted by The Hawk @ 06/17/2003 12:49 PM PST


...and....Bruce, got Benjamin Kritzer in the mail yesterday! How the mailman got that package through the mail slot in my door is beyond me! Can't wait to start reading!
Michael

Posted by MBarnum @ 06/17/2003 12:50 PM PST


DR Jason, could you post an
address so we could write to you?
That would be swell.

Posted by Matthew @ 06/17/2003 12:53 PM PST


Jason, if you are still there-please give me your address again. We have been having computer woes and I lost it. I have a lovely postcard from Ashland to send to you. Is the Thomas Sweet ice cream store still in New Hope? I look forward to future updates on your Pennsylvania adventure

JB aka JK, where on the west coast are you returning to? I’m happy for you. I had to wait 20 years to return.

A few of my favorite songs: Yes, those by Ricky Nelson. The Wayward Wind by Gogie Grant. Catch a Falling Star by Perry Como.

Posted by Jane @ 06/17/2003 01:05 PM PST


Mr BK - what is the title of the Joanie Sommers CD you produced?

Posted by Jrand52 @ 06/17/2003 01:05 PM PST


OK... let's lighten the mood here with a joke! I got this today and chuckled.. hope you all do too...
-----------------------
Several men are in the locker room of a golf club. A cell phone on a bench rings and a man engages the hands free speaker-function and begins to talk.

Everyone else in the room stops to listen.

MAN: "Hello"
WOMAN: "Honey, it's me. Are you at the club?"

MAN: "Yes"
WOMAN: "I am at the mall now and found this beautiful leather coat. It's only $1,000. Is it OK if I buy it?"
MAN: "Sure, ...go ahead if you like it that much."

WOMAN: "I also stopped by the Mercedes dealership and saw the new 2003 models. I saw one I really liked."
MAN: "How much?"
WOMAN: "$60,000"
MAN: "OK, but for that price I want it with all the options."

WOMAN: "Great! Oh, and one more thing....the house we wanted last year is back on the market. They're asking $950,000."
MAN: "Well, then go ahead and give them an offer, but just offer $900,000."

WOMAN: "OK. I'll see you later! I love you!"
MAN: "Bye, I love you, too."

The man hangs up. The other men in the locker room are looking at him in astonishment. Then he asks: "Anyone know who this phone belongs to?"

Posted by Craig @ 06/17/2003 01:11 PM PST


Craig - your joke is a BIG hit at the Indiana Dept of Labor.

We'll see how long it takes to get back to you.

Posted by Jrand52 @ 06/17/2003 01:17 PM PST


Thanks, Ben!

Posted by TCB @ 06/17/2003 01:49 PM PST


Here are the addresses that Jason gave us before he left.

(Dates: 6/16 - 7/20)
c/o Bucks County Playhouse
PO Box 313
New Hope, PA 18938
or
(Dates: 6/9-6/15 and 8/12-8/31)
c/o Pocono Playhouse
PO Box 207
Mountainhome, PA 18342

Posted by TCB @ 06/17/2003 01:54 PM PST


I'm afraid I don't have much to offer in the way of early rock and roll favorites. Even when I was knee-high to a grasshopper (a coloquialism that would never have been heard in my house), I was cutting my teeth on classical music (mostly of the light and pops variety) and Broadway music.

Posted by Jay @ 06/17/2003 01:55 PM PST


I saw my first Broadway show at age 9 (MY FAIR LADY) and was bought the cast album from an NYC record store the following day. I have been a Broadway baby ever since. I really did not ever buy any rock and roll music. I did have a brother two years older who played his stereo in his room and from his room I'd often hear Gene Pitney, Gene McDaniels, Petula Clark, the Beatles, the Temptations, Marvin Gaye, the Four Tops, and the Supremes, all of whom could sing and sang songs with a fair degree of melody and rhythm. The songs were OK, but I was always amused that he's played a record for a few days and then it was never heard of again. My poor folks were submitted to the overture to BYE BYE BIRDIE and CAMELOT for years and years.

I still never succumbed, however, and was proud to be listening to LI'L ABNER and SHE LOVES ME and MAME when my friends were listening to Elvis and the Beatles.

Posted by Matt H. @ 06/17/2003 02:09 PM PST


I also listened to far more showtunes than rock & roll. In fact, there is footage of me dancing in my parents' living room with a cane and top hat to the OCR of MY FAIR LADY.

And my parents were actually surprised when I came out of the closet.

Posted by Christopher @ 06/17/2003 02:24 PM PST


Just returned from lunching with dear reader Mark Rothman, who sends his best.

"Rachel" - thank you for your assessment of today's notes. At least the initial is right, if you get my meaning.

I don't know that I would categorize as "officially banned". I think I was fairly upfront and I do believe I asked nicely because I was simply not comfortable - all this is well-known and we don't need to rehash it. If I was truly banning or censoring, the post would be gone like the mysterious thread referred to in today's notes.

LOVE Gene McDaniels - I'm at the point of no return aaayyyyyand for me there'll be no turning back.

I also think while strong opinions were voiced about the Tonys and certain performers, that it wasn't as nasty here as elsewhere, although people certainly were strong in their convictions.

Posted by bk @ 06/17/2003 02:33 PM PST


:)

Posted by :) @ 06/17/2003 02:36 PM PST


Anything by Darin & Holly for starters. I had many favourites in the fifties but the early 60s are my favourites with Brook Benton, Sam Cooke, Ben E King, Dinah Washington & Damita Jo.I know I've mentioned it before but anthing produced by Tommy "Snuff" Garrett was terrific. Bobby Vee, Eddie Cochrane,Johnny Burnette, Gene McDaniels and later on Gary Lewis, Cher & Vikky Lawrence.The records produced for "Liberty" has an amazing depth of sound.( not to be confused with A Wall of sound of course).
The first records I ever bought were by Pat Boone, Johnny Mathis & The Crickets. I was also very partial to Marty Robbins (his songs that is).
DR Jason. So good to hear form you. Still don't know whether I should be expecting a whale of a parcel or not. Hope things go very well for you.

Posted by Tom from Oz @ 06/17/2003 02:56 PM PST


Ben,

Thanks for the nice words about the Father's Day radio show....I will pass your comments onto Michael Betts since he put together the playlist for me.

I was at Bookfellows in Glendale over the weekend and saw the dazzling display advertising the book signing party for Kritzerland this coming Saturday. They had copies of both BK books and nice signs inviting people to stop by and meet BK! It looks like it will be a wonderful time. I encourage everyone who can attend to do so! Sadly, I will be up in SF seeing Wicked on Saturday. :-(

Posted by Donald @ 06/17/2003 03:29 PM PST


Robert,

Good to hear from you. And thanks for keeping the conversation honest.

Posted by Dave @ 06/17/2003 03:32 PM PST


Darrin & Holly?

Was that an Aussie duo?

No due by that name ever hit the U.S. charts that I know of!

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 06/17/2003 03:33 PM PST


Great pic of Brent from Broadway Bares..

http://www.broadway.com/template_3.asp?CT=26&CI=29197&AP=3&NA=F

Posted by Craig @ 06/17/2003 03:42 PM PST


And also Lynette Perry!

http://www.broadway.com/template_3.asp?CT=26&CI=29197&AP=13&NA=F

Posted by Craig @ 06/17/2003 03:44 PM PST


To answer your question Lulu, I am moving back to the West coast because I can't take living in SE Iowa any longer. I am too far from my family and friends, plus my husband is not very happy at his job, which is why we moved out here in the first place. So, we decided to pack it up and move on to bigger and better things. What those bigger and better things are - I don't know yet.

I am not exactly sure where we will be living yet, but most likely it will be Northern California or possibly Carson City, Nevada. Maybe even back to Seattle. Wherever we end up, I will be all that much closer to my darling father - which of course is the main reason I am moving back.

I must tell you all that right here in little ol' Burlington, Iowa is the week of Steamboat Days (the only thing that goes on here). There are carnival rides and bands play every night. I am going to see Cheap Trick tonight. That's right, Cheap Trick - Whooooyaaaa!! So I must be on my way. Some of the other bands playing this week are Def Leppard, Survivor, Poison - all the has been 80's bands. I guess that's all little ol' Burlington can afford.

Have a great night everyone!!

Posted by JB aka JK @ 06/17/2003 03:48 PM PST


The conversation wasn't honest? Please point out to me something within today's notes or posts that was not honest. You might not like what's being said, but your comment is baffling and a little disingenous, if you ask me, or even if you don't ask me. But you knew that, didn't you?

I, for one, cannot wait for the darling daughter to be within spitting distance of these here parts.

I've just booked someone else for an Unseemly Interview to follow Miss Christianne Tisdale, and I think it will be a very interesting interview - more details soon.

I am wearing jeans and a Kritzerland t-shirt.

Posted by bk @ 06/17/2003 04:01 PM PST


JB/JK: Don't feel bad about Burlington only being able to afford those has-been '80s bands. I actually allowed myself to be dragged to a Def Leppard concert by a boyfriend, back in '88. It was festival seating and when people started pushing to get positions close to the stage, it very nearly turned ugly, a la the Cincinnati Who concert. Then it rained. Did I mention the venue was outside? And the opening act? Europe. You know..."The Final Countdown."

Anyhoo, I think my point is...there was NEVER a good time to see those bands. Or maybe my point is that I'm just not a rock concert person.

Let us know how Cheap Trick was! I hear they want you to want them...

Posted by Lulu @ 06/17/2003 04:15 PM PST


Oh, and I'm wearing a flowered cotton housedress, tube socks, my sneaker rollerskates from the '70s (they still fit! Yay!), and a cowboy hat.

Posted by Lulu @ 06/17/2003 04:17 PM PST


Sorry. Never really liked Rock and Roll. I was weaned on Broadway Musicals and singers like Sinatra, Harry Belafonte, Odette, Oscar Brown Jr, Streisand, Simon and Garfunkel, Tom Lehr ( I know he really doesn't belong in the category) and my personal favorite Dame Julie Andrews.

Posted by Michael Shayne @ 06/17/2003 04:34 PM PST


Jrand52

You didn't need to ask that question you could have gone to

http://www.brucekimmel.com/sommersjoanniefineromance.html.htm

and seen for yourself!!! I like what I did now if people would only use it!!!! :-) (Very tongue in cheek here

Posted by Michael Shayne @ 06/17/2003 04:46 PM PST


Tom Lehrer is awesome!

Get in line in that processional
Step into that small confessional
There the guy who's got religion'll
Tell you if your sin's original
If it is, try playin' it safer
Drink the wine and chew the wafer
2, 4, 6, 8
Time to transubstantiate

(from The Vatican Rag)

Posted by Lulu @ 06/17/2003 04:53 PM PST


Oops (spoo, spelled backwards), I forgot to answer Jrand. As Michael Shayne has linked you, the album was called A Fine Romance, and was an album of Jerome Kern songs. It's quite lovely. I love Joanie - and I helped put an act together her back when we were doing the album.

Posted by bk @ 06/17/2003 04:54 PM PST


Sorry that last line made no sense!! It needs some punctuation.

I was thinking one thing and my fingers typed another!!!

Should have read!!!

and seen for yourself!! I Like what I did. (pause) Now if people would only use it!!!

and seen for yourself!!

Now why don't we all go to the site, leave a note in the guestnook and make me happy. I'm having a crappy week.

Posted by Michael Shayne @ 06/17/2003 04:57 PM PST


See I really am having a crappy week!!1

Guestbook!! Not Guestnook

Posted by Michael @ 06/17/2003 04:58 PM PST


LOL - Michael Shayne, after I asked the question, I realized where I could find the answer....and sure enough....THE OFFICIAL BRUCE KIMMEL WEBSITE had the answer!

I'm sorry I didn't come back and let you know!

Yes, DR - if you have a question, the OBKW has the answers.... Thanks, Michael!

Posted by Jrand52 @ 06/17/2003 05:00 PM PST


I bought JGA - Joanie's single as well and played it and played it....the flip side, a vocal version of A SUMMER PLACE was wonderful.

Just ordered the JGA Cd from Amazon....and will continue to look for the Kern Cd.

Posted by Jrand52 @ 06/17/2003 05:08 PM PST


TCB, thanks for the info on Jason. One more question. What is Jason’s last name?

While at the dentist this afternoon I discovered this month’s issue of Life Magazine has a nice large photo of Ashland’s outdoor Elizabethan Theater. Check out the photo and article if you can.

Posted by Jane @ 06/17/2003 05:23 PM PST


Just got a ticket to see Adam
Guettel's new musical, "The
Light in the Piazza," tomorrow
night in Seattle. Naturally, a
report shall follow right here at
the nearly-most-popular site in
the entire internet.

Posted by Jed @ 06/17/2003 05:27 PM PST


Jane - His last name is
Bratton.

Posted by Jed @ 06/17/2003 05:28 PM PST


My ever-lovin' der Brucer has told me that he particularly loved Bill Haley and the Comets, for "Rock Around the Clock," and the song "Blueberry Hill." But he was more enamored of the pop songs of that era than the rock, for some reason. I think it has to do with his Pops being the rocker in the family.

DR Maya: From what I understand, when it comes to transferring the score of Sweeney Todd to film, Mr. Stephen Sondheim himself would like to replace the song "Wait" with something else. He's embarrased by the South American rythms of the song, which don't belong there.

I think Mr. Steven Spielberg (who has always perversely spelled his name with a "v", in my opinion) would be a very good choice to direct Sweeney Todd on film. He has an excellent visual eye, and would respect the original material. I don't think for a moment that he'd stoop to hacking apart the score; that sort of disrespect lies more with the kind of people who would cast Vin Diesel as Sky Masterson. We might have new orchestrations for the music, to be provided by John Williams of course, but would that be a bad thing?

Posted by S. Woody White @ 06/17/2003 05:37 PM PST


Bruce, please note that I wrote "thanks for keeping the conversation honest".

Sorry if you misunderstood.

Posted by Dave @ 06/17/2003 05:51 PM PST


George: You asked folks whether they thought Steven doing Stephen's Sweeney was a good thing.

I believe that it IS a good thing. Sorry Lulu.

I think that Spielberg has amazed us one and all every time he tackles a new genre.

After "Jaws" and "Close Encounters," I'd never have hoped he'd do something like "E.T." I never imagined something like "Schindler's List" or "The Color Purple" and yet he moved me so incredibly with all these films -- far more than any other filmmaker currently making films has moved me.

I think a Steven Spielberg-directed film of Stephen Sondheim's "Sweeney Todd" would be formidable.

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 06/17/2003 05:52 PM PST


I think Spielberg is a great director, basically, with a few missteps along the way. I wouldn't count on Sweeney Todd being made any time in the near future, however. We're in one of these phases where every musical ever written will be talked about in terms of a film, but only a few will actually make it to the screen, I'm afraid.

Now, why are we in widescreen? I went and looked to see if anyone hadn't used their space bar or something, but I didn't see anything like that. Oh, well, another one for Mr. Mark Bakalor to deal with if he ever returns from tarnation.

Posted by bk @ 06/17/2003 06:03 PM PST


Can hardly wait for the report, Jed. One of my favorite movies....keeping my fingers crossed that it translates well to the stage.

XXXXX Right Hand
Left Hand XXXXX

Posted by Jrand52 @ 06/17/2003 06:04 PM PST


Jed, thanks.

Posted by Jane @ 06/17/2003 06:06 PM PST


RP, why did you apologize to me? Not that I mind - in fact, I think everyone should humble themselves and pledge their obesience to me whenever possible. But I am a bit puzzled.

Posted by Lulu @ 06/17/2003 06:12 PM PST


Oh, my! So much to talk about this evening!
I just came in from working an accidental double, someone did indeed call off, and I came home, had a light dinner and shower, and went right back to work.

Okay, first subject:
DARIN! DARIN! DARIN!
Simon & Garfunkel
The Eagles
Tom Waits

Spielberg and Sweeney:
I think this is a wonderful idea! I first thought of Speilberg and musicals when he opened INDIANA JONES AND THE TEMPLE OF DOOM with a sleek and stylish "Anything Goes." (In Chinese, no less!). I find a lot of SCHINDLER'S LIST to be *operatic* in its cinematography. One look at MINORITY REPORT (one of the most egregiously overlooked films of the past year) shows Speilberg's keen eye for environments, real or over the top (ditto TEMPLE OF DOOM). I also think that it is very brave of Speilberg to even think of doing a musical right now, even if Patti LuPone has an *in* with Steven. . .anybody remember 1941? As far as casting goes, I'd look for Steven to go straight to one of his dearest friends: BABS! Yes, Ms. Streisand, who looked quite fetching in OLIVER! attire in ON A CLEAR DAY, will most likely be high on Steven's list for Mrs. Lovett. . .

JASON! Welcome back to the way!
It's been raining here on the opposite side of the state, too. Break many appendages on opening night(s)!!!!!

...and, I read the interview, too! I didn't read the controversial stuff on that other site, though. . .

AND, to all those dear readers who did indeed request things from me - - everything is packaged and ready to go. . .

Posted by td @ 06/17/2003 07:15 PM PST


I adore SWEENEY TODD; I think it's a masterpiece, but it has never been a mass audience pleaser, and I'd hate to see an expensive film musical version of it flop and so end another era for film musicals. The only musical of the last thirty years that I think could appeal to a mass film audience is DREAMGIRLS. I don't think PHANTOM OF THE OPERA will, and I don't even think RENT would.

If a SWEENEY film (or FOLLIES which I'd rather see; the SWEENEY touring stage production taped with Lansbury and Hearn is good enough for me) is to be done, I'd rather it come after we pile up three or four successful film musicals so one that might not gross so highly won't cool off any further production ideas.

Again, this is NOT a slam against SOndheim who is a genius and who has given us many of the greatest musicals of the last 45 years. But even his biggest hit FORUM didn't do well as a film, and we won't even talk about NIGHT MUSIC though that disappointment was hardly his fault. But I'm afraid in an effort to steer SWEENEY away from its heavy music core by a director who may not understand the necessity of EVERY song, SWEENEY will be eviscerated just like NIGHT MUSIC was.

Posted by Matt H. @ 06/17/2003 07:42 PM PST


Lulu! Lulu!

For-give-me!

I meant Maya! Maya!

Oy!

Not Lulu, as in Zulu, but Maya as in papaya!

Zounds and egads!

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 06/17/2003 07:54 PM PST


When you think about it, Mr. Sondheim has had no luck with screen adaptations of his work - not that there have been that many. While I like the film of Funny Thing, it is barely Sondheim because there aren't many songs left. A Little Night Music is one of the worst movie musicals ever made in my opinion, even though some of the performances are good. And that's it, unless I'm forgetting something. If you want to throw in Gypsy, most detest it although I'm not one of them, and West Side is his one unequivocal film success.

Posted by bk @ 06/17/2003 08:19 PM PST


Sure, I'll make it a hundred. Don't just sit there on your butt cheeks, let's have a late-night rally, shall we? I'm wearing jeans and a Kritzerland t-shirt, and gray socks and white cotton pantaloons.

Posted by bk @ 06/17/2003 08:23 PM PST


Re: Stephen's stage to film translations.

Yes, thank God that he's had the productions of everything since SWEENEY videotaped (except ASSASSINS, which was a serious missed opportunity as far as I'm concerned.)

Posted by Christopher @ 06/17/2003 08:27 PM PST


Hello, fellow dear readers. I spent today at a church camp, learning about Arizona's native fishes and the uncouth interlopers that endanger them. I probably took a hundred photos of kids snorkeling and catching crawdads (the uncouth interlopers). Aren't you all thrilled to hear about my day? Course you are.

Posted by Laura @ 06/17/2003 08:32 PM PST


I am wearing my Sondheim festival t-shirt, jeans and black socks.

Speaking of the master, I'd like to post a few more notes about the Sweeney movie.

DR TD--the suggestions of Streisand playing Mrs. Lovett made me nearly choke. I think she'd be great and sing the hell out of that incredible score.

DR S. Woody White--"Soon" isn't the most memorable song in there, so I'd rather see that go rather than something like "Pretty Women"

I didn't mean to sound so negative about the idea of Speilberg directing Sweeney. His later works, i.e. Schindler's List, A.I. and Minority Report have been darker than the ET-era stuff, so I guess he reasonably could direct a macabre musical. The scope of Sweeney is so dramatic, if not epic, that it certainly could translate well to film.

BK--I finished Benjamin Kritzer! Not to give anything away to any Dear Readers who may not have read it yet, but the ending made me cry! Very poignant as well as funny, and coincidentally, I thought while reading it that it would make a very nice film. :)

Posted by Maya @ 06/17/2003 08:56 PM PST


I agree with you, BK, that NIGHT MUSIC on film is just awful, and yet, even from that fiasco, some gold was produced: the new "The Glamorous Life" song which I feel is in every way better than its stage counterpart. And thanks to you, BK, we have a marvelous rendition of it on SONDHEIM AT THE MOVIES.

DR Christopher, I wish that were true about having all of Sondheim's productions since SWEENEY taped, but was MERRILY WE ROLL ALONG taped? Or did you mean for the Lincoln Center archive?

Posted by Matt H. @ 06/17/2003 08:57 PM PST


Re: MERRILY

Oops. Skipped one (which also should have been taped but wasn't.) Sorry.

I always forget that Merrily came after Sweeney.

Posted by Christopher @ 06/17/2003 09:14 PM PST


Maya, I'm glad you liked it! Now you must read Kritzerland. Also, post a review for Benjamin Kritzer at amazon.com. The more the merrier.

Posted by bk @ 06/17/2003 09:25 PM PST


Choking up on Streisand, eh, Maya? Well, she can sing better than the former Mrs. S (Amy Irving) and the current Mrs. S (Kate Capshaw), BUT can she sing "Anything Goes" in Chinese?

Posted by td @ 06/17/2003 09:44 PM PST


BK--Just wrote my Amazon review and will be ordering Kritzerland soon!

TD--I doubt any of us can sing "Anything Goes" in Chinese, Mandorin or Cantonese!...any Dear Readers in China?

Posted by Maya @ 06/17/2003 09:58 PM PST


I'm here! I'm here!

It was first day of rehearsal of I Love You, You're Perfect, Now Change for me. And what a wonderful first day! The cast did a lot of "homework" before today, and we were actually able to get a pretty good sing-thru of all the material. I did some "note-ing" of the harmony parts, but, for the most part, everyone knew their stuff already. -Now, I just have to buckle down, and get my piano part in order - there are some tricky passages. And, best of all, the cast members are also great people! Should be a very fun rehearsal period and run. AND due to the fact that two of the actors are in the current show, and since we did so much work today, I only have two hours of rehearsal tomorrow! Yippee!

As for today's topic... Hmmm... I'll umpteenth Ricky Nelson, Bobby Darin and Fats Domino. *I can still remember - visually and aurally - the commercial for that Fats Domino greatest hits album that was advertised for quite a while when I was younger.

Jason - So glad to hear from you! And it's good to know that Diggle is there to keep you in conversation and sane. Is Amanda with him there too? -And make sure he shows you his abs! ;-)

Lulu - Love that "Vatican Rag"! It truly was a "guilty pleasure" when I was in parochial school. -And I love Lehrer's songs for The Electric Company, "Silent E", and "L-Y" - although I don't think that is the right title for that one.

Food check: Well, I'm back in the good graces of Chet and Eileen today. And, after yesterday, I'm sure I'll still be processing all the sugar I ate for a few days - when I catalog all the junk I ate yesterday - whoa! *I also went out with some of the company members last night for some beer and karakoke... and beer. -Let's just say it was a good thing we didn't start today until 1:00pm! ;-) -But I can definitely hear my body asking, "What happened to the sugar?"

-OH! And since I'll be visible on stage, I got measured for my "costume" today. It sure was nice seeing my new - smaller - measurements "officially" - AND I wasn't holding in my stomach!

Posted by Jose C. Simbulan @ 06/17/2003 10:04 PM PST


Oh - And what a loverly plethora of posts so far! Are you sure we aren't already the most popular site on the internet?

Posted by Jose C. Simbulan @ 06/17/2003 10:06 PM PST


Psst! Steve!

Meryl Streep is a pretty good singer. Picture her with too much mascara . . .

. . . and a BIG KNIFE!

Posted by Sigerson Holmes @ 06/18/2003 12:19 AM PST


Am I the last poster? I'm just an insomniac.

LONELY BOY--Paul Anka
TIGER--Fabian (Forte)
WHO'S SORRY NOW--Connie Francis
STUPID CUPID
WHERE THE BOYS ARE
LIPSTICK ON YOUR COLLAR
SOMEBODY'S FOOL
GREEN DOOR--Jim Lowe ?
there's a song by Charlie Rich that I love, but I just can't think of the title, right now.
BLUE VELVET--Gary Vinson?

Posted by KT @ 06/18/2003 01:38 AM PST


I sang Blue Velvet, and Roses Are Red and Lonely Girl. I am the Polish Prince!

Posted by Bobby Vinton @ 06/18/2003 03:29 AM PST


Let's not forget "My Melody Of Love" which includes a Polish verse.

Posted by Mr Lonely @ 06/18/2003 04:07 AM PST


Before I begin, let me state that I am a fan of Ms. Streisand. I think she is quite wonderful. She can be self-indulgent and over the top sometimes, but bascially, she's a great talent. That being said, the idea of BS playing Mrs. Lovett made me choke also, but for the opposite reason. I would not relish the idea of watching her play/sing that role. Much better, in my humble opinion (IMHO in Internet lingo) would be DR Sigerson's suggestion of the amazing Meryl Streep, or we could go back to the casting from the Kennedy Center production and use Baranski and Stokes-Mitchell. I thought the KC production was wonderful. I saw the original w/Cariou and Lansbury and was swept away (I also saw the 1989 revival with Bob Gunton and Beth Fowler at Circle in the Square which was excellent) but to see it at the Kennedy Center was to see it anew (again, IMHO). Stokes-Mitchell sang so beautifully and Baranski was funny and sexy and wonderful. I would love to see them do it again.

Posted by Ben @ 06/18/2003 04:50 AM PST


KT: Have you ever seen "Girlstown," starring the inimitable (thank heavens, as she herself was a 100% imitation from the get-go) Mamie VanDoren? Also starring Mel Torme and Elinor "Princess" Donahue? Paul Anka is in it (he is stalked by an obsessed fan named Serafina - no, I am NOT making this up) and sings "Lonely Boy." Truly great '50s JD flick.

Posted by Lulu @ 06/18/2003 04:58 AM PST


Oh, yeah, I almost forgot...Gloria "I Married a Monster from Outer Space" Talbott is in "Girlstown," too. Are you scouring the internet for a copy of this movie yet? ;)

Posted by Lulu @ 06/18/2003 04:59 AM PST


Paul Anka also sings Ave Maria in that movie. And Gloria Talbott and Mamie get into a catfight. Meow!

Posted by Zelda Pinwheel @ 06/18/2003 05:04 AM PST


Gene McDaniel: Hundred Pounds of Clay
Gene Vincent: Lotta Lovin'
Gene Pitney: Town Without Pity
Gene Rayburn: Dumb Dora Was So Dumb...

Posted by Lissa Mae Applebee @ 06/18/2003 05:13 AM PST


How dumb was she?

Posted by Joyce Bulifant @ 06/18/2003 05:15 AM PST


"Girlstown" is great, Lulu. But let's not forget "High School Hellcats" and "Runaway Daughters."

Pajama parties, heavy petting, and MURDER!!

Posted by Jrand52 @ 06/18/2003 05:47 AM PST


She was so dumb, she wore her (BLANK) to a "b" movie.

Posted by Gene Rayburn @ 06/18/2003 06:06 AM PST


I see another post of mine has caused the one person who is banned from posting on this here site to post again. First let me say that while I totally understand the reason BK has banned this person I feel that nobody should be banned for any reason. This banning has obviously not stopped this person from reading the site and still occasionally posting if I even hint at that other site.

To explain my post to him, I must state that I posted in regards to yesterday's notes which were primarily about a site that had not been named at the time I posted (it subsequently has been identified) and I said I only knew of one site that doesn't get named here and I didn't think that it was the site referred to (it wasn't). When I made a comment about how few people attend chats on the site that doesn't get named my source (which the banned poster questioned) was this here site where their attendance has been mentioned several times both in chat and in postings, most recently in last weekend's posts regarding Ms. Sandy Duncan's alleged quote about BK. If this information has been incorrect and the site in question has good attendance, then I appologize for repeating what I have read here more than once.

Posted by William E. Lurie @ 06/18/2003 06:14 AM PST


Oh, Good Lord, people!

The name of the site is Fynsworth Alley.

The named of the "banned" person is Robert Armin. (He not only reads these notes regularly, but posts regularly under different names, so the word "banned" is used loosely in this case.)

The other message boards referenced in the past few days have been sondheim.com and AllThatChat.

There, I said it and I'm glad.

Posted by Dave @ 06/18/2003 06:30 AM PST


That catch phrase is taken, Dave.

Posted by Cass Daley @ 06/18/2003 06:51 AM PST


I said "bra," Gene.

Posted by Charles Nelson-Reilly @ 06/18/2003 07:03 AM PST


Gene, I said "Some manner of beekeeping equipment and/or clothing, including but not limited to headgear involving a heavy mesh covering in some capacity." Is that a match?

Posted by Patti Deutsch @ 06/18/2003 07:15 AM PST


I have, of course, the definitive answer: "Stinger."

Posted by Richard Dawson @ 06/18/2003 07:18 AM PST


Dave -- how is Forever Plaid coming along? Have you learned how to swallow fire yet?

Jason -- no set and no costumes and folks have missed half the rehearsal time. And you open tonight? Almost sounds like it may turn out to be like "Noises Off."

Posted by Laura @ 06/18/2003 07:20 AM PST


Sorry to return once again, but I feel so WELcome today for some reason. I did read the earlier comments about Sandy Duncan and wrote directly to Francois to explain the "truth" of the matter. Since a talented performer (and not incidentally, a good friend) has been somewhat slighted on this board, I feel I should point out that her comment "I think he hates me" was written in response to why she had never done any recordings for Bruce. It was a self-deprecating remark and not intended as a negative comment about BK in any way. She would have been (and continues to be) happy to record for BK any time he asks. If BK would like to contact her, I'd be happy to make the connection for him.

As stated above, I continue to respect BK and to follow his various exploits. But if I - or any of my friends or chat guests - are maligned by any of his minions, I reserve the right to respond.

Hi, Dave, Tom, Francois and my other buddies here.

BK: Thanks for letting me get this off my chest. Since this is the end of the previous day's post, no one will read it anyway! Much happiness to you and yours. If you read anything negative about you in my post above, you misread it. Check again.

Posted by Robert Armin @ 06/18/2003 07:22 AM PST


Well, I said that Dumb Dora brought her home edition of "Password," the game that's not only fun, it's so portable you can play it anywhere. "Password," the smash-hit game show hosted by the wonderful Alan Ludden. Thank you, and please, be sure to have your pets spayed or neutered.

Posted by Betty White @ 06/18/2003 07:23 AM PST


Hey, Betty, that's my line.

Posted by Bob Barker @ 06/18/2003 07:25 AM PST


Bob,

What's Your Line?

Posted by Bill Cullen @ 06/18/2003 07:26 AM PST


Laura,

Haven't learned to swallow fire yet, but the way my throat feels this week, I might as well have. My allergies are kicking up, and my voice is shot. I actually called in sick for rehearsal last night, which I have almost *never* done. I hope to have my voice restored by tomorrow night's rehearsal.

It's a fun group, and we sound pretty good together, from what I can tell. Somebody made some video of one of our rehearsals, and promised to send it to me today. That should be interesting...

Posted by Dave @ 06/18/2003 07:27 AM PST


Seven down, three to you, Arlene.

Posted by John Daly @ 06/18/2003 07:38 AM PST


So Ann, what are you doing for Passover?

Posted by A friend of Ann Miller's @ 06/18/2003 07:38 AM PST


I don't do game shows.

Posted by Ann Miller @ 06/18/2003 07:38 AM PST


I don't like Mondays.

Posted by Bob Geldof @ 06/18/2003 07:56 AM PST


Just to make it clear, it was All That Chat that the nastiness happened on.

We don't tolerate such nonsense on Sondheim.com.

Posted by Christopher @ 06/18/2003 08:22 AM PST





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