Posted by Jrand52 @ 07/01/2003 09:19 AM PST

First post. Huzzah!

BK did you get your Leslie Parrish info...which turned out to be Julie Parrish info, which turned into second hand Leslie Parrish info...anyhow anyhow?

Posted by Jrand52 @ 07/01/2003 09:20 AM PST

For different reasons, I am fond of the cut songs from "Promises, Promises" (a couple of which are truly horrible) and "Darling of the Day" (which are quite wonderful). It's interesting to hear the demos of these shows. Though it's not an "obscure" song, the demo version of "Another Hundred People" is truly bizarre--it's a choral arrangement, sounding somewhat akin to Ray Conniff doing My Favorite Sondheim, or, perhaps, the McGuire Sisters singing "Getting Married Today."

Speaking of "Promises, Promises," I just found out that the incredible choreographer of the "Peter Pan" I'm doing (she has done some great Stomp-like stuff for the Indian dances, where they beat out rhythms with tom tom mallets) was one of Baayork Lee's cohorts in the Bacharach/David musical! She even still has the long hair pulled into a ponytail.

BK, I know I have been terribly E&T--and unfortunately may continue to be. I jump from Neverland to the Oregon coast where I will be Music Directing for a brand spanking new company that's up in the lovely town of Seaside. Did you get my idea for a trivia question? Have you solved it yet?

Posted by JMK @ 07/01/2003 09:31 AM PST

I did get the info - I didn't think it would be Leslie who, apparently, is a very private person.

I am happy to inform you dear dear hainsies/kimlets that June was our best month ever, even with the Sunday debacle. June kicked butt, June did. Hits and visits were all up quite a bit and I truly feel that soon we will be the most popular site on all the Internet. Now, let's start July off with a bang, shall we?

I've received some lovely e-mails of support from some very surprising people re yesterday's posts regarding All that Chat and their pulling of posts and selective use of their Terms of Service. Where it will go from here I'm not certain - it depends on a few things, but if I decide to take this battle to the funny papers I now have lots of support from some pretty interesting folks.

Posted by bk @ 07/01/2003 09:33 AM PST

Happy Canada Day to all the canucks on the board!

Posted by Emily @ 07/01/2003 09:40 AM PST

Eh?

Posted by Dudley @ 07/01/2003 09:47 AM PST

Aussie, Brit, American, Canadians

Aussies: Believe you should look out for your mates.
Brits: Believe that you should look out for those people who belong to your club.
Americans: Believe that people should look out for and take care of themselves.
Canadians: Believe that that's the government's job.

Aussies: Dislike being mistaken for Pommies (Brits) when abroad.
Canadians: Are rather indignant about being mistaken for Americans when abroad.
Americans: Encourage being mistaken for Canadians when abroad.
Brits: Can't possibly be mistaken for anyone else when abroad.

Americans: Spend most of their lives glued to the idiot box.
Canadians: Don't, but only because they can't get more American channels.
Brits: Pay a tax just so they can watch 4 channels.
Aussies: Export all their crappy programs, which no one there watches, to Britain, where everybody loves them.

Americans: Will jabber on incessantly about football, baseball and basketball.
Brits: Will jabber on incessantly about cricket, soccer and rugby.
Canadians: Will jabber on incessantly about hockey, hockey, hockey, and how they beat the Americans twice, playing baseball.
Aussies: Will jabber on incessantly about how they beat the Poms in every sport they played them in.

Americans: Spell words differently, but still call it "English."
Brits: Pronounce their words differently, but still call it "English."
Canadians: Spell like the Brits, pronounce like Americans.
Aussies: Add "G'day", "mate," and a heavy accent to everything they say

Aussies: Are extremely patriotic about their beer.
Americans: Are flag-waving, anthem-singing, and obsessively patriotic to the point of blindness.
Canadians: Can't agree on the words to their anthem, when they can be bothered to sing them.
Brits: Do not sing at all but prefer a large brass band to perform the anthem.

Americans: Drink weak, pissy-tasting beer.
Canadians: Drink strong, pissy-tasting beer.
Brits: Drink warm, beery-tasting piss.
Aussies: Drink anything with alcohol in it.

Brits: Are justifiably proud of the accomplishments of their past citizens.
Americans: Are justifiably proud of the accomplishments of their present citizens.
Canadians: Prattle on about how some of those great Americans were once Canadian.
Aussies: Waffle on about how some of their past citizens were once Outlaw Pommies, but none of that matters after several beers.

Americans: Seem to think that poverty and failure are morally suspect.
Canadians: Seem to believe that wealth and success are morally suspect.
Brits: Seem to believe that wealth, poverty, success and failure are inherited.
Aussies: Seem to think that none of this matters after several beers.

Canadians: Endure bitterly cold winters and are proud of it.
Brits: Endure oppressively wet and dreary winters and are proud of it.
Americans: Don't have to do either, and couldn't care less.
Aussies: Don't understand what inclement weather means.

Aussies: Have produced comedians like Paul Hogan and Yahoo Serious.
Canadians: Have produced many great comedians, like John Candy, Martin Short, Jim Carrey, Dan Akroyd, and all the rest at SCTV.
Americans: Think that these people are American!
Brits: Have produced many great comedians, but Americans ignore them because they don't understand subtle humour.

Posted by Emily @ 07/01/2003 09:47 AM PST

Happy Canada Day!

Where are the fireworks??!

Posted by Dave @ 07/01/2003 09:49 AM PST

In my eyes, officer.

Posted by Frances Farmer @ 07/01/2003 10:03 AM PST

Speaking of "Freaky Friday" (which in its musical version contained the song "At The Same Time") did you know there is another remake coming out later this summer with Jamie Leigh Curtis? I saw the trailer in the trailer marathon I saw before the feature Saturday. The name Mary Rodgers was not even mentioned in it!

I love all the SMILE songs on unsung musicals most of all, but there is not a bad song on the whole bunch. There are so many more that I hope eventually there will be more volumes.

Posted by William E. Lurie @ 07/01/2003 10:11 AM PST

There is a song that Susan Johnson sings in DONNYBROOK! called 'Sad Was the Day' that is very funny. All about the old man she married and what she went through before she was widowed....

"Sad was the day that he lay down-
threw his toupee down-
and died..."

Anita Gillette sang a really nice song in JIMMY, but I forget the name of it.

Posted by Jrand52 @ 07/01/2003 10:18 AM PST

Well, I had a most productive (and expensive) lunch hour. I hadn't been to Footlight for a long time so I wandered over and ended up getting all sorts of fun stuff, including a used copy of the BK-produced Our Private World with the ever lovely Miss Sally Mayes. I also found a used copy of the CD release of the Sondheim Musical Tribute. I remember coveting that record when it came out in 1973. I got it for Christmas and still have it.

Topic of the day:

One of my favorite songs, which, by the way, is on the Sally Mayes CD is from Hallelujah Baby, Talkin' To Yourself. When I was performing, I used it as a ballad for auditions.

I also like If I May from a small off-Broadway show, The Streets of New York, which I did while in college. California, also from that show is a fun number.

Posted by Ben @ 07/01/2003 10:23 AM PST

Just want to say hi to everyone. I haven't posted in a while, but I am here everyday reading your most excellent posts.

Posted by JB aka JK @ 07/01/2003 10:29 AM PST

Why is it that by the time we get a dozen posts or so here at HHW - I want to go shopping for CD's and/or DVD's?

Posted by Jrand52 @ 07/01/2003 10:36 AM PST

Does anyone remember the title song from an animated film called DAYDREAMER, based on the life of Hans Christian Anderson? Music by Maury Laws, lyrics by Jules Bass. It was sung by Robert Goulet and is quite lovely. One of my favourite obscure ones.

Posted by Charles Pogue @ 07/01/2003 10:41 AM PST

Gee, I was hoping the topic of today would be Buddy Hackett movies, because I could answer that one!

Posted by Laura @ 07/01/2003 10:49 AM PST

So you're the one Laura.

Posted by Buddy Hackett @ 07/01/2003 11:05 AM PST

DR Laura, please go ahead and "speak to that topic". We are not a group to stay on topic at this here Web site. I'd love to hear your Buddy Hackett movie pics.

Posted by Ben @ 07/01/2003 11:05 AM PST

I'm partial to the song "The World Around Us" cut from "The Pajama Game" and added to the expanded OBC CD.

I love much of the music on Unsung Musicals and Lost in Boston series, too.

And then there was this really great number -- "Where is a Man"? -- in "The First Nudie Musical" that was cut...I sure hope they restore it for the stage version. Odd, isn't it, how that song hasn't turned up on any of the BK-produced albums???

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 07/01/2003 11:07 AM PST

Go shopping JRand52..it is Tuesday and all the new DVD releases are out!!

Posted by MBarnum @ 07/01/2003 11:08 AM PST

Can anyone tell me who Jesse L. Martin is? He is playing Macheath in a production of THREEPENNY OPERA in Massachusettes with four of the most prominent Broadway musical leading ladies today (Betty Buckley, Melissa Errico, Randy Graff and Karen Ziemba) and one would assume that he must have some major credits to be heading ths cast but the name is totally unknown to me.

(Note: In the post STAR WARS world of today, one can't use the show's old abbreviation 3PO without without thinking of a large robot.)

Posted by William E. Lurie @ 07/01/2003 11:12 AM PST

But...DR Emily...where does poutine fit into your list?

Now get back to work celebrating your country's heritage with learning, games and crafts. That's an order!

Posted by Lulu @ 07/01/2003 11:18 AM PST

WEL, click on my name for the link to Jesse L. Martin's listing on imdb.com and here is a link to his listing on ibdb.com:

http://www.ibdb.com/person.asp?ID=71591

In a nutshell, he was in the original cast of RENT off and on Broadway, and on TV was on "Ally McBeal" and "Law and Order." He's a mighty fine singer and not too bad to look at.

Posted by George @ 07/01/2003 11:36 AM PST

Mr Lurie,

Jesse L. Martin first achieved recognition in the original cast of RENT and is now one of the stars of NBC's hugely successful Law & Order TV series (Wednesday nights at 10 p.m, as well as countless times on TNT)

Posted by Donald @ 07/01/2003 11:37 AM PST

I'll confine my choices to songs from the UNSUNG MUSICALS and LOST IN BOSTON recordings...

UNSUNG MUSICALS:

All the songs from SMILE, especially "Disneyland" (though I don't like Ms. Benson's delivery of it...)

"New Words" - I've heard several versions of this song, but Liz Callaway's is still the best.

"One Promise Come True" - Have to second BK's nomination of this lost gem.

"In the Name of Love" - Is it just because Sally Mayes sings the hell out of it, or is this really a great song?

"Sherry!" - Are we ever going to hear the full cast recording that we have been promised?

"She's Roses" - A fine song from a show with plenty of them.

"That Man Is Doing His Worst To Make Good" - Play this song in the morning, and try not to sing it all day. You can't, can you?

"For A Moment Of Your Love" - Ahh, Rebecca.

"Smashing New York Times" - A great lyric, perfectly expressed.

"When It Happens To You"

"Penny by Penny" - Makes me want to hear what the rest of this score sounded like.

"He Didn't Leave it Here" - Based on this song, and Liz Callaway's rendition of "Since You Stayed Here", I'll be picking up the new cast recording of BROWNSTONE.

LOST IN BOSTON:

"Come Down From the Tree" (though the Audra McDonald version is better)

"A Bell Will Ring"

"Pink Taffeta Sample Size 10"

"When Daniel Marries" - Even the cut songs from a Flaherty/Ahrens musical sound better than 90% of what gets on Broadway.

I have also heard "Sad Was the Day" from DONNYBROOK, and Jrand is right - it *is* very funny.

Posted by Dave @ 07/01/2003 11:39 AM PST

Thanks for the prompt answers. I am not a big fan of RENT and only know of Anthony Rapp and the two leading ladies. Also I watch so little television that I was unfamiliar with his work there. He was the only one in the cast that the reviewer from Theatremania.Com didn't like and I thought maybe he was an untested performer with no major credits. Obvioulsy he is not.

Posted by William E. Lurie @ 07/01/2003 11:43 AM PST

I think my IQ goes up when I read the posts in this forum-type-schpiel. I've increased my vocabulary by approximately 15 words in about 5-ish days. That's an accomplishement if I do say so myself...which I do...

Emily, I loved the comparison chart. Sad, really, to look at American's like that...I always though of us as a rather loveable group...in an annoying detestable way. :)

Posted by Sarah @ 07/01/2003 11:52 AM PST

Welcome, Charles Pogue. I definitely remember Daydreamer because I saw the movie on its opening day and I owned the soundtrack, which is a delight from start to finish. It has very catchy songs throughout and Daydreamer is a beauty.

Sarah, keep on reading and you will increase your vocabulary every day, because we delight in language here at haineshisway.com. Might I recommend Benjamin Kritzer to you, because the young boy in that book is obsessed with language and the meaning of words, and I think you might just find it tres amusing.

Posted by bk @ 07/01/2003 12:11 PM PST

Sarah ---
I'm curious. What new words did you learn here? I love this site but I can't say it has increased my vocabularly.

Posted by William E. Lurie @ 07/01/2003 12:11 PM PST

WEL, I assumed that Sarah meant that the level of vocabulary employed here at HHW is superior to that in use at other message/chat boards. If one visits a certain other "chat" board too often, one notices one's IQ dropping several points. ;-)

Posted by Dave @ 07/01/2003 12:14 PM PST

Thear be sum inteligint peeple hear at Hanes his Whey!

BK--enjoyed the July song--only wish I had a melody to go with it!

Favorite obscure songs--What More Do I Need? from Saturday Night, which also happens to be my audition song of choice. In fact, I love all the songs from Saturday Night.

If from Two on the Aisle--this has to be one of the cleverest, funniest theatre songs ever written, although I don't know if it counts as obscure anymore.
Ben--I love all the songs on Our Private World, especially If and the Savage Man medley...Sally Mayes rocks!

Of the Unsung Musicals and Lost in Boston CDs I only have one of the Unsung Musicals--the one with all the Smile songs and they are all great.

Sarah--if you want to improve your vocab further (in addition to reading the posts here and the Benjamin Kritzer books), keep a dictionary by your bedside when you read and look up every word you are unfamiliar with...I did this, and I do believe I got an A in every vocabulary test I took at school. :)

Posted by Maya @ 07/01/2003 12:38 PM PST

DR WEL - I love the new word you just made Up:

vocabularly - what is the definition please? Since you invented it, you are responsible, lexicographically speaking for its care and feeding.

Posted by Jrand52 @ 07/01/2003 01:03 PM PST

BK- I love to read, I devour books and poetry and everything that can increase my vocabulary and IQ because, unlike most of the "youth of today", I'm not a herion addict, I don't drink, I don't smoke, and I don't party until 5 in the morning (with the exception of last night, but it wasn't a bad party, it was a "stay up as late as you can" party, which are always the most fun of all), and, with me not doing all of these things, I have a great deal of time to chat with you fine people, and many others, as well as read and sound classy when I speak. Your advice never goes to waste, BK, whether it's given to me or not.

William- being flitty and forgetful sometimes, I can't think up the grand total of 15 words that I had said, but note that they were approximate. Take these, for example: hobnob, unseemly, plethora, reprehensible, henious, askanse, verve, justifiably, and tempestuous.
These may not be new words, or words at all for that matter, a few are simply words that I had heard and overlooked, but I love them because I sound smart and not at all like the kids my age, which gets me more respect. I suppose I could post saying "u" instead of "you", and "gr8" instead of "great", but it's a tad bit hard to read, and looks vulgar.

Dave- this board is INCREDIBLY smart, it's like breathing fresh air. I post on the "Thoroughly Modern Millie" official board, and that's good for me because it's a lot of girls my age who I can relate with, and we all have the same dreams to support each other with. I come here, and it's a load of people older than I who can give me advice about how to reach my potential, and still allow me to have a good time. you're a funny group of "big kids", ;)

Posted by Sarah @ 07/01/2003 01:04 PM PST

I think we just got called old.

Posted by Jrand52 @ 07/01/2003 01:17 PM PST

I would like to humbly apologize for having slaughtered the English language.

L8er.

Posted by Avril Lavigne @ 07/01/2003 01:19 PM PST

La mem chose.

Posted by Jacques Tati @ 07/01/2003 01:20 PM PST

No, not old. Educated. There's a huge difference. If you were old, you wouldn't like me. Not that I say you do, but you'd actually say it. Believe me. Old people are weird.

Posted by Sarah @ 07/01/2003 01:22 PM PST

I'm 20...only just starting to feel old.

Posted by Maya @ 07/01/2003 01:23 PM PST

Just an educated (?) guess, but WEL's "new word" (a Maury Yeston reference) seems to be an adverb, since it ends in "ly". Thus, an appropriate definition might be:

"to orate in a verbose style, employing arcane phraseology"

Usage:

"William F. Buckley spoke vocabularly in his address to the dormant graduating class."

Pronunciation is up for grabs...

Posted by Dave @ 07/01/2003 01:24 PM PST

Quick, someone send "vocabularly" to Rich Hall as a new Snigglet! Or for the late Douglas Adams' "The Meaning of Liff" or "The Deeper Meaning of Liff: A Dictionary of Things That There Aren't Any Words For Yet, but Ought To." (Anyone else remember these?)

Posted by George @ 07/01/2003 01:41 PM PST

Any new word in my posts is because there is no spellcheck at this here site and sometimes I don't have the time to go to another program or a dictionary to look them up.

Sarah - The words you listed were perfectly good words that aren't in use as much as they should be. I'm glad this here site is educational for you.

Posted by William E. Lurie @ 07/01/2003 01:45 PM PST

Sarah,

This site may help to "increase your word power", but please don't rely upon it to improve your grammar. Some people - especially BK himself - intentionally use atrocious grammar for comedic effect.

Posted by Dave @ 07/01/2003 01:54 PM PST

Nope, I naturally type like that, because it's the way I speak. I type long run-on sentences, because, as vocabulary-enhanced as I am, I can babble on for hours about nothing at all, hardly pausing, sticking random puns and jokes in whatever I say. And yes, I agree, as entertaining as it is to read, it's awful for your writing skills. :)

Funny how conversation gets slow when we talk about me...*grins sheepishly*

Posted by Sarah @ 07/01/2003 02:16 PM PST

Sarah, I hope you didn't infer that I was criticizing your writing skills. Not at all.

And if you like run-on sentences, you'll fit right in around here. ;-)

Posted by Dave @ 07/01/2003 02:20 PM PST

Here's another vote for THE DAYDREAMER. Wonderfully entertaining film and catchy score. It's a movie that has slipped through the cracks all these years and is in prime condition for a re-discovery.

I remember Jesse Martin on one of Rosie O'Donnell's programs, and he said that he and Jerry Orbach drive everyone else on the LAW & ORDER set crazy because they sit around during set-ups and sing Broadway show tunes that no one else has ever heard of. He instantly entered my hall of fame right then and there.

If a Sondheim song can be called unknown, I ADORE "The Two of Us" from bk's UNSUNG SONDHEIM.

I love the entire score of A TIME FOR SINGING.

I like Rose Marie's catchy "I Fought Every Step of the Way" from TOP BANANA.

Posted by Matt H. @ 07/01/2003 02:21 PM PST

All of this talk of vocabulary reminds me of an obscure song I quite admire: "A Word a Day" by Johnny Mercer, from Top Banana, originally sung by Phil Silvers and Rose Marie. One wonders if Sondheim ever took its final line to heart: "Ambivalent means I love you."

I'll be honeymooning in Mercer's home town this fall.

Posted by Noel @ 07/01/2003 02:34 PM PST

Somewhere along the way I heard that "Fly Me to the Moon" was originally going to be titled "In Other Words." A good theme song for today's unofficial topic.

Posted by Jay @ 07/01/2003 02:58 PM PST

All this talk of words is most amusing, because Benjamin Kritzer just yesterday wrote an essay entitled The Conundrum of Words. He got an A on the essay, by the way (BTW, in Internet lingo).

Now, what in tarnation do you mean "atrocious grammar for comedic effect"? Moi (pronounced "moy")? Oh, well, as Barbra Streisand once sang, Guilty.

Posted by bk @ 07/01/2003 03:10 PM PST

Oh, and to the formerly living ATC people - at some point soon I may ask you all to write a little note about your experiences if I decide to have little Chat with a certain man from the funny papers.

Posted by bk @ 07/01/2003 03:12 PM PST

It's hard to go past all those delightful songs cut from "110 In The Shade".
Other favourites from that amazing "Bounce" composer:
"There's Something About A War" and the wonderful (does it still count?) "Marry Me A Little".
Honourable mention to "A Toujours" from "Gigi" (Film).

Emily: And that really is true of many of us in "OZ".

Posted by Tom from Oz @ 07/01/2003 03:22 PM PST

From the Unsung Series Only

Smashing New York Times
Beyond My Wildest Dreams (Really an original cast recording)
Maria's Song
New Words
Smile
Sherry
It's a Lovely Day For a Walk
No Mary Anne
There's Always a Woman
Mulititudes of Amy

Posted by Michael Shayne @ 07/01/2003 03:23 PM PST

All right, everybody, it's time to "Do the Hucklebuck"!

Posted by Georgia Gibbs @ 07/01/2003 04:05 PM PST

And if you cain't do the "Hucklebuck," mebbe you can do the Hully Gully:

There is a dance going around like on the Scene, Hully Gully
Hully Gully, well shake your shoulders, jove with your feet
There's a dance going around from coast to coast, Hully Gully
When you hear this dance try to give it the most, Hully Gully
Mama Hully Gully, Papa Hully Gully, baby Hully Gully too
Papa Hully Gully, sister Hully Gully, you can Hully Gully too
Went to a party now under that hill, Hully Gully
I don't want to boogie child now, what makes you
Everybody's doing it coast to coast, Hully Gully
When you hear this dance try to give it the most, Hully Gully
Mama Hully Gully, Papa Hully Gully, baby Hully Gully too
Papa Hully Gully, sister Hully Gully, you can Hully Gully too

Posted by Dance Monkey @ 07/01/2003 04:06 PM PST

Hey, guys...just checking in between rehearsals. We're up to our ankles in THE SCARLET PIMPERNEL right now, and things are NOT going well. We had a 12 hour rehearsal yesterday and basically only got 4 hours of work done. We went through the music for Act One (only once per song) and then we blocked the first two scenes of the show (and already I can see why it didn't do so hot on B'way). And for some reason, that took from 10am to 10pm. We had another music rehearsal today from 10-2 and then we blocked a couple more scenes from Act One. Tonight we're going to run what we've done, and then somehow we're going to block and polish the rest of the show before, between and after performances of TITANIC, which resume tomorrow.

Did I mention that PIMPERNEL opens in 8 days? And we just got the "scripts" yesterday. And the "music." I put these terms in quotations because they are photocopies and not the real McCoy. BUT! they have the materials for SMOKEY JOE'S CAFE, which doesn't start rehearsals for another month. Not that I'm bitter or anything.

Anyway, I just had to get that off my chest. Continued thanks for the postcards (Jane, I got yours today :-P) and the cookies and all that jazz. Keep the postcards coming! I love hearing from you all...

Posted by Jason @ 07/01/2003 04:42 PM PST

I just read on Playbill.com that our very own Kerry Butler has been offered the role of Audrey in the upcoming revival of LITTLE SHOP OF HORRORS!

Congrats, Kerry!!!!

Posted by Jason @ 07/01/2003 04:48 PM PST

Jason - welcome to the theatuh!

Bill - I love your new word, however it came about. Kind of like Charlie Goodyear discovered rubber for his tires.

Only two more days until July 4!

Posted by Jrand52 @ 07/01/2003 04:49 PM PST

Hey everyone, happy canada day!

I haven't been online today, so I'm just catching up on all of yesterday's and today's events here. Sounds interesting. Sorry I missed it.

William, Jesse L. Martin is fantastic. I love him from RENT and Ally McBeal. He is an incredible singer!

Posted by Jennifer @ 07/01/2003 04:57 PM PST

Jrand...I've been in "the theatuh" for nearly 10 years now. This is by far the worst rehearsal process I've ever experienced...and I've worked at Discoveryland, USA!, so that's saying a lot!! :-)

Posted by Jason @ 07/01/2003 05:00 PM PST

Jason--good vibes are being sent your way, and nothing fixes up problems like a good vibe or two.

You still have 8 days...a lot can be improved upon by then with a lot of hard work and patience. Break a leg!

I have a topic...what is everyone's favorite word? Mine is plangent.

Posted by Maya @ 07/01/2003 06:07 PM PST

I always liked saying obstreperous. It's a word that you don't hear too often, so when I say it, people give me that look that says "I haven't got a clue what you just said," yet they nod along. Quite funny to watch.

And when I was little I used to say "antidisestablishmentarianism" because I thought people would think I knew what it meant. I was wrong, :)

Posted by Sarah @ 07/01/2003 06:32 PM PST

"Fly Me To The Moon" was actually titled "In Other Words" and published under that name. Eventually the words ("Fly Me To The Moon") were added after the title and at some point that became the only name.

We just ordered tickets to see Kate Mulgrew ("Ryan's Hope" and one the the many "Star Trek" series) as Katharine Hepburn in TEA AT FIVE. Ironically we were planning to see it this weekend anyway, but thought it would be a total sell-out once Miss Hepburn passed away. We got 5th row, aisle seats for Saturday night, so it is obviously not selling. I have heard it is great and it will now take on a whole new meaning. Theatremania.Com has discount tickets available, but over a third of the savings is eaten up in service charges.

By the way, I saw photos in the paper of Miss Hepburn's Turtle Bay house and people have left flowers, posters, candles and stuffed animals there. Isn't it better to donate to some charity in her memory than to clutter up the street like that?

Posted by William E. Lurie @ 07/01/2003 06:55 PM PST

Sarah, it's funny you should mention the word "obstreperous", since Jason has been hearing that word quite a lot lately. It's in the first scene of THE SCARLET PIMPERNEL ("A most obstreperous creature...").

I've never understood the word "antidisestablishmentarianism". I mean, don't the "anti" and the "dis" cancel each other out, as a double negative?

Posted by Dave @ 07/01/2003 06:58 PM PST

Hmmm...you're right, its the same as establishmentarianism...but still, I'm 99.9% sure it's a word!

Posted by Sarah @ 07/01/2003 07:15 PM PST

I think that at the ripe old age of 19 I can now consider myself old (and hopefully educated). Only 11 more years to 30!!! ;)

The best word to say in the English language is without a doubt "epoch". I like weird vowel sounds... :)

My absolute favorite word in any language is the semi-curse that can be compared to "darn" to French - "Taberouette" (for "Tabernacle"). I use it far more than I'd like to claim.

Posted by Emily @ 07/01/2003 07:51 PM PST

Thanks Emily--as an assiduous student of la langue française, I am glad to add that word to MY vocabulary. If you know any more cool French curse words, feel free to share!

And I wonder...is the word epoch said as "eh-puck" or "ee-pock"?

Posted by Maya @ 07/01/2003 07:57 PM PST

I think its ee-pock...

unless you're a patriotic canadian :)

Posted by Emily @ 07/01/2003 08:05 PM PST

antidisestablishmentarianism -- "Properly, opposition to the disestablishment of the Church of England, but popularly cited as an example of a long word.

"The longest word in the first OED was 29-letter floccinaucinihilipilification (the categorizing of something as worthless or trivial). The longest in the OED2, usually cited as the longest word in any English dictionary, is pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis (a miners' lung disease caused by inhaling silica), 45 letters. Some scholars, however, deride this word as "made up," and declare '"floccinau...'" to be the champ. And, of course, there are some hippopotomonstrosesquipidelian (30 letters, means "long") words in specialized fields, especially chemistry, where they apparently just tack on another few letters every time they rewrite the textbooks. The full name of the tryptophan synthetase A protein, an enzyme with 267 amino acids, extends to 1,913 letters:

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"There's one you probably won't see on Wheel of Fortune."

-- from a site that popped up when I looked up "antidisestablishmentarianism" on google.

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 07/01/2003 08:25 PM PST

I will have to say that "I Fought Every Step of the Way" is also one of my personal faves, BUT, I like the version on Painted Smiles' MOSTLY MERCER, with a trio of talented ladies led by Mary Gordon Murray (whom some will remember from a mis-conceived revival of LITTLE ME, while others will recall her days as a regular on TV's "One Live to Live").
I don't think that ROYAL WEDDING'S "Too Late Now" is well-enough known.
Ditto THE GAY LIFE'S "Something You've Never Had Before."
I adore "Love is Only Love" from the film of HELLO, DOLLY!
Of course, if I must bring up movie songs (and I must), nothing beats Mercer & Mancini's "Whistling Away the Dark" from DARLING LILI.
SCARLET PIMPERNEL-wise, "She was There" gives me a thrill.

Lust finished watching the dvd of WHAT'S UP DOC, and indeed, it has stood the test of time, and still makes me laugh uncontrollably! Streisand delivers a very breif commentary, but Bogdonavich's commentary track is erudite, informative and entertaining.

Posted by td @ 07/01/2003 09:22 PM PST

Oops (spoo spelled backwards), Mr. Ron Pulliam's long word has turned us into ToddAo. Remember, you have to use your return key in order for that not to happen. Or so says the sage Mr. Mark Bakalor.

Posted by bk @ 07/01/2003 10:02 PM PST

I'm also a major admirer of "New Words". -And it's one of the few songs I actually play for myself to sing. *I'd love to hear Brent Barrett sing it.

I like "Disneyland" too, but I've heard too many versions of the "pop version" that was published a couple of years ago in a Hamlisch collection - now out of print - at auditions. And I've also read one too many bad xeroxes of the manuscript also at auditions.

One of my favorite formerly obscure songs was/is Gershwin's "Naughty Baby". -And I still love that Maureen McGovern Gershwin album!

-Well, I think that's about it for me... Had first tech tonight. Went very well. We got out early! *It's amazing just how "high" six feet off the ground really is 8-)

Posted by Jose C. Simbulan @ 07/01/2003 10:56 PM PST

ToddAo?

-Rings a bell.. just can't remember which one right now.

Posted by Jose C. Simbulan @ 07/01/2003 10:59 PM PST

I was just in a play in which we had major debates over the pronunciation of "epoch" -- so I can tell you definitively: there are two pronunciations. First, "'eh-puck", and second, "'ee-pock." I personally far prefer the first.

My favorite unsungs/bostons:

I want to second someone's mention of Liz Callaway's "Since You Stayed Here." That's another song I heard and immediately wanted sheet music for (anyone got some they want to share? Jose has been a brilliant, generous person and offerred to send me "my brother lives in san fransisco" so I have gotten greedy)

Another Liz Callaway performance: "So Far, So Good." I found both songs from that show charming...made me want to hear the rest.

"Disneyland" is of course a gem.

I love "Forty-four Sunsets" -- there's a wonderfully simple grace to that song. And Daisy Eagan's voice is so clear and beautifully unpolished.

Partly because I played Baby Louise, I'm fond of "Mama's Talkin' Soft" -- I would have killed to have a song in the play. But I also think it adds quite a bit to the show; you realize how much the kids understand, even when they're really young, and it's a major clue to actresses playing rose that she's actually got a ton of femme fatale in her.

What else?

"Jenny Rebecca"
"Watching the Show" -- love that one

Oh, I could go on. But I've done that long enough.

Posted by Anna @ 07/01/2003 11:07 PM PST

Oh, just remembered what ToddAo is... I can see the logo now in my mind's eye...

Posted by Jose C. Simbulan @ 07/01/2003 11:07 PM PST

td - As much as I love Streisand, "Lust finished watching WHAT’S UP DOC?’ does sound a bit dirty.

BK - In regards to the title of your musings this day, according to TV Guide, Nathan Lane will be co-starring in a new indie comedy entitled "Cabbages and Queens." How appropriate!

Posted by TCB @ 07/01/2003 11:13 PM PST

DR Anna - Well, "Since You Stayed Here" was published at one time a few years ago when Bette Midler recorded (Warner Bros.). -It may still be in print, if not...

And I've also The Little Prince where "44 Sunsets" comes from. -And as I've said before here on HHW, I wish the Rose's song, "I Love You, Goodbye" would get recorded one day.

Posted by Jose C. Simbulan @ 07/01/2003 11:54 PM PST

Oops... "I've also PLAYED FOR The Little Prince...

Alas, I don't have that music anymore... One of the few (thankfully) scores that I loaned out, and never got back. :-(

Posted by Jose C. Simbulan @ 07/01/2003 11:56 PM PST

Oops... "I've also PLAYED FOR The Little Prince...

Alas, I don't have that music anymore... One of the few (thankfully) scores that I loaned out, and never got back. :-(

Posted by Jose C. Simbulan @ 07/01/2003 11:56 PM PST

I swear I only hit "Post" once!

Posted by Jose C. Simbulan @ 07/01/2003 11:56 PM PST

Obscure songs from musicals? What if it's a well-known song from an obscure musical? Either way here are some songs that I like and most are BK produced recordings (in alphabetical order):

The Alto's Lament (written by Heisler & Goldrich. Was this written as a specialty cabaret number for someone? I would LOVE to have sheet music to this song. I have so many friends who would love to sing it.)
Come Down From the Tree (cut from ONCE ON THIS ISLAND) One of the best cut songs ever
Crowded Island (Stephen Schwartz)
Fear No More (THE FROGS) When I was in college, I did three different settings of "Fear No More" in a recital and Sondheim's was one of them. No one had ever heard of it.
Flaemmchen (The Flame Girl) (cut from GRAND HOTEL by Wright and Forrest)
Goodbye For Now (vocal version from REDS-movie)
I To the World (OH, BROTHER) - I like Jason Graae's solo version, but I prefer the original quartet version. I like the counterpoint.
The afore mentioned Mama's Talkin' Soft (cut from GYPSY)
Man Wanted (COPACABANA) this is just a fun song.
New Words (ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE) who doesn't love this song?
Pink Taffeta Sample Size 10 (cut from SWEET CHARITY)
Silverware (WE TAKE THE TOWN)
Water Under the Bridge (SINGING OUT LOUD-unproduced Sondheim movie)

Posted by George @ 07/02/2003 12:45 AM PST

All these wonderful songs....

Good vibes to Jason on his rehearsals.

DR Kurt is rehearsing MOBY DICK as we speak...Ahab/Headmistress. Hot ticket for sure!

I remember Sniglets, George - I think there was even a book! Isn't there always...a book?

JMK!!!

Jose what are you doing six feet off the ground? (A Sherman bros. reference)

Posted by Jrand52 @ 07/02/2003 05:28 AM PST

Oh my gosh, you guys...

This message board officially has too much importance in my life. I dreamed about it last night.

In my dream, DR Ron Pulliam made a post that BK chided him about. Chided him quite strongly, in fact. I have no memory of what the post consisted of, only that it did not make BK happy.

Sorry Ron and BK! You know dreams are nutty things, and none of this reflects any of my personal thoughts and/or opinions. I know well and good that DR Ron would never dream of posting anything chide-worthy...

Posted by Lulu @ 07/02/2003 06:01 AM PST

I would have included "Water Under the Bridge" myself as it's my absolute favorite cut from UNSUNG SONDHEIM, but since Debbie Gravitte's definitive version was the second one recorded (Liza Minnelli beat her to it on the Sondheim Celebration set, but Debbie outsings her six ways from Sunday), I figured two Tony award winning singer/actors doing that song made it not qualify. Glad someone else mentioned it, though. It needs to be MUCH better known.

Posted by Matt H. @ 07/02/2003 06:14 AM PST

I agree about "Come Down From the Tree". I liked it so much on BK's CD that I bought the OBC of ONCE ON THIS ISLAND and discovered that the cut song was better than anything that remained in the score!

Posted by William E. Lurie @ 07/02/2003 06:15 AM PST