Posted by bk @ 08/06/2003 07:54 AM PST

Hahahah

Allison Hayes - CHICAGO SYNDICATE, where she plays the gal who goes after the mob what killed her pop.

June Kenney - DR Susan's father's movie ATTACK OF THE PUPPET PEOPLE, she looks great and has a lot of screen time.

Joi Lansing - not a movie, but the Superman episode The Girl Who Married Superman. Notice she is a GIRL not a WOMAN.

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/06/2003 07:56 AM PST

Happy Birthday, TD!

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/06/2003 07:57 AM PST

OK. I've asked this question before, but, if you're like me, this answer may change every once in a while...even every day! (And this question is for everyone, BTB [that's by-the-by in internet lingo]). If you were to write a musical about yourself using only exsisting music from other shows that you felt reflected your personality, what would you choose to be your overture and what would you choose to be your eleven o'clock number? And...go!

Posted by Jason @ 08/06/2003 07:58 AM PST

Happy Birthday, TD!

Posted by Jason @ 08/06/2003 07:58 AM PST

Happy Birthday, TD!!!

Posted by Laura @ 08/06/2003 08:12 AM PST

Dear BK: Have you ever grown a beard or moustache? What did it look like, if you did? Is there photographic evidence? Under what circumstances would you grow one now?

Posted by S. Woody White @ 08/06/2003 08:15 AM PST

Happy Birthday, TD!

(Always worthy of a separate post, I think!)

Posted by S. Woody White @ 08/06/2003 08:18 AM PST

Morning, File!

Morning, Toby.

Happy Birthday, TD!

Jason, since you posed such an interesting question, how about if you go first?

Posted by Dave @ 08/06/2003 08:24 AM PST

Good question, Jason. I don't remember it before.

Overture - MERRILY WE ROLL ALONG

Eleven O'Clock Number - (actually a 10 o'clock number, but it would be in a different spot in my show) EVERYTHING'S COMING UP ROSES

I guess I am a Sondheim guy.

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/06/2003 08:25 AM PST

Happy Birthday, td!

MBarnum: I know who Allison and Joi are, but haven't seen them in enough different projects to truly choose a favorite. But of course I do love Allison in Attack of the 50 Foot Woman and Joi in her brief role in Queen of Outer Space.

Have to give some thought to the musical numbers question.

Posted by Lulu @ 08/06/2003 08:29 AM PST

First, and most importantly: HAPPY
BIRTHDAY TD!!!!

Questions (for BK and DR's) Whom
would you choose to bitchslap, if you
had the choice? (This was
mentioned by Maya yeserday, but it
was late at night, so I'm not sure if it
would be remembered.)

My perennial question: What was
the most recent piece of theatre that
you saw, and what was your opinion
thereof?

How did you find this site? (Only, of
course, for DR's)

Posted by Hapgood @ 08/06/2003 08:34 AM PST

I'm sorry if my post offended you yesterday, BK, but note that of those who responded to my post, there was only one who disagreed with me. One of the rules at HHW is "don't feed the animals", meaning don't encourage someone who is trying to create an arguement with their posts, just ignore them. I assumed this would apply to other boards as well. Namo was obviously trying to find someone to challenge him; his second post only came when people ignored his first post. You showed a different side of you BK that has never shown up on this here site, which is one of the prime reasons this is the only theatre chat board I read. Our regular readers may disagree with each other, but we do it civilly, and if some new reader makes a nasty post under a phony name, we ignore him. I know you were just trying to defend Juliana, which was a good thing, but antagonizing an attention-seeking poster hiding behind a false name only encourages him (or her) to make more posts of the same nature. It would be nice if all Hainsies and Kimlets could behave the same way on other boards as they behave here. It might help bring us more DRs in our quest to be the most popular site on the internet.

Posted by William E. Lurie @ 08/06/2003 08:35 AM PST

Good question, Jason... Now these pieces are removed from the context of their shows, but in the context of our lives, right?

For the overture, not to cop out, but I honestly think the overture from TITANIC at this point. It's a great beginning.

For my 11 o'clock number... wow, I can think of a ton of songs that would be IN the show of my life, but an 11 o'clock number...

Well, I have yet to reach 11 o'clock, so I'll be hopeful. I'm going to say I, DON QUIXOTE for my 11 o'clock number. That's a good way to go out.

Posted by Don @ 08/06/2003 08:37 AM PST

Dave: Too late. But I'll go second. How's that?

Overture: RAGS

11 O'Clock Number: "Being Alive"

Your turn (Oh! A PACIFIC OVERTURES reference...)

Posted by Jason @ 08/06/2003 08:39 AM PST

Hmm...ok. Make mine third. :-)

Good morning, Don. Please send my opening night (well, matinee) wishes to the SMOKEY JOE'S cast...

Posted by Jason @ 08/06/2003 08:45 AM PST

You did not offend me, WEL. I do understand what you're saying, but the bitch-slapper in me does come out occasionally - I have many sides and that, if I perceive someone is bashing someone I care about, is one of them. And let me tell you, my response was NOTHING compared to what it could have been. As I said, I try to do it with humor (see my response to "Duane Reade" in the same thread). Here is a different story, because we don't get those kinds of people in the first place. We don't get people who are intentionally trying to do what those people are doing. One of them, as it turns out, knows and dislikes me for reasons which are too tiresome to go into (the usual tiresome reasons that have to do with the usual tiresome bad business of 2001) and so there are agendas at work, as there usually are. In any case, I've said my piece there, and will not post again - UNLESS someone bashes someone I care about in a needless fasion (tight red dress, nylon stockings and kick-me-now spike heels).

Posted by bk @ 08/06/2003 08:50 AM PST

Why would someone use the name of a drug store for their screenname? Duane Reade? I mean, come on...lets go for Walgreens or how about Rite Aid. I think my next screenname might be Wal-Mart. Or how about Meijers? Big Lots, anyone?

Posted by Jason @ 08/06/2003 08:53 AM PST

Re Cinegrill prices: Way too expensive. I don't mind paying the performer (of course), but I do object to being required to pay for food I don't want. I generally order a salad, and DR Sandra is too excited for anything but a glass of water. And don't get me started on this mandatory drink thing.

Re mandatory drink orders: Next time we come across this policy, we plan on ordering drinks that don't exist.

Posted by Laura @ 08/06/2003 09:00 AM PST

BK: How is it you knew exactly what I'm wearing right now? And what on earth induced you to post it for all and sundry to see??

Posted by Lulu @ 08/06/2003 09:06 AM PST

What's wrong using a drugstore name?

Posted by Rexall @ 08/06/2003 09:11 AM PST

Absolutely nothing.

Posted by Piggly Wiggly @ 08/06/2003 09:16 AM PST

I was so busy with my rant I forgot to post my question. This is for anyone who would like to answer but I would like BK's answer as well.

Is there any performer who you used to like very much but over the years have come to not care for very much?

I'll go first. In the 60s, I was the world's biggest Barbra Striesand fans. I attended her concert at Soldier's Field in Chicago where, after singing "Silent Night", she described herself as "A pregnant Jewish girl standing in the middle of a football field in the rain sing a Christmas song". Then slowly over the years things slowly started to change... her type of songs, her orchestrations, etc. to the point that I can barely listen to her any more. I still play her early albums all the time and she still has the same wonderful voice today, but over-production, bombastic arrangements, poor song choices, etc. have made most of her recent CDs unlistenable. Her upcoming movie CD has a great selection of songs, but I am afraid she will over-do them like many of her songs on the two Broadway albums (most notbly on "Somewhere").

Posted by William E. Lurie @ 08/06/2003 09:19 AM PST

Happy, happy B'day to you TD!!

Posted by MBarnum @ 08/06/2003 09:24 AM PST

OK, I think I got it.

Overture: I Enjoy Being a Girl

11 o'clocker: I'm Still Here

Posted by Lulu @ 08/06/2003 09:27 AM PST

No, Jason, Big Lots sounds like you are bragging.

Overture: “Anyone Can Whistle”

11 o’clock: “I Am What I Am”

I’m sorry, but I have trouble ignoring rudeness, even if that rudeness was designed to anger me. Life is too short to let these people go unchallenged. If we ignore a post about Juliana, do we do the same if they post about BK? Or do we hold off until they attack our own Susan Gordon? Or worse... me? I'm with you, BK, defend your friends at all cost, and then hope they will do the same for you.

Posted by TCB @ 08/06/2003 09:27 AM PST

I'm sorry, td. Happy Birthday!

Posted by TCB @ 08/06/2003 09:32 AM PST

Now then - Allison Hayes is
50ft. Woman, of course - a fine
performance. Joi Lansing I'll
have to think on, but June
Kenney is definitely Puppet
People.

Yes, I have had a beard once
in my life - in college, to do the
play The World of Sholom
Aleichem. I do have a photo
somewhere. More amusingly,
I have a photo when I did that
same show in high school,
only the beard is phony. I
have, on occasion gone two or
three weeks, THINKING I
would grow a beard just for
fun, but by the end of the third
week it is usually too itchy and
crazy for me to deal with and I
shave it off. Someday I might
just grow one, though.

I would put Streisand into the
category of performers I
adored that I am no longer that
crazy about - for all the obvious
reasons. I do think if she'd get
out of her own way, she could
bring back lots of magic. I
also feel that way about Liza,
who I really liked way back
when.

Bitch-slapping - well, I would
and did bitch-slap the dissers
yesterday. I would like to
bitch-slap certain people who
have caused others a ton of
grief, oh, yes, I'd like to
bitch-slap them from here to
eternity and hell and back. I'd
like to bitch-slap many people
on the Internet as well.

Posted by bk @ 08/06/2003 09:39 AM PST

Will, I'm with you TOTALLY on Barbra.

For a long, long time, I thought there was no limit to her talents and there was nothing she couldn't do. And there was no one who came close to her in her prime in the 1960s and early '70s. Her recordings and films from that time still give enormous pleasure. I think it was right after STAR IS BORN that she began her slide...but she's REALLY falen in the last few years. I've had increasing impatience with her since her abandonment of THE NORMAL HEART, her dilettantish flirtation with being a director, and her jaw-droppingly poor choices for material to record - and even in her "Movie Album' she has to include not one, but TWO songs by her hack buddies the Bergmans. The talent is still there, but it's lost under a mountain of garbage now. And she doesn't care.

Posted by MasterLcZ @ 08/06/2003 09:39 AM PST

And I thought she had retired!

Add Whitney Houston to the list of people I used to have a lot of musical respect for and now I don't. I think we all know what happened with her CoughBobbyBrownCough The same goes for Mariah Carey. Her debut album was dynamite, but then what happened?!?! She slutted herself up (clothing-wise...I have no idea what her personal life is like, nor do I care) to sell more albums instead of continuing to put out good music.

Posted by Jason @ 08/06/2003 09:44 AM PST

DR Question (actually, whenever I see these initials, I think of Duane Reade, but only because they're on EVERY damn corner of my neighborhood) - I'm thinking of buying a pre-bombast Streisand CD: which should it be?
(I grew up with Color Me Barbra)

Last piece of theatre attended was Follies, where I knew 4 (count 'em 4) in the cast. There were a number of good things about the production, but I'm still mystified as to why, as a piece of writing, so many people think so highly of the show. Middle-aged has-beens regretting their life choices strikes me as dreary, even with those strong songs.

BK Question: This fall I'll be doing a brand new musical for one (count 'em one) performance and wish to get a good live recording that I can sell over the internet. My budget is limited. How do I go about this and who do I call to record, live, in a theatre? (None of the performers belong to any union, btw.)

Songs that describe me: A Little Bit Off, My Personal Property, So Far So Good (I have a certain glow, especially on top!), Manhattan, Why Shouldn't I?, My Romance, I Believe In You, Why Should I Wake Up?, Love In a Home

Favorite Audrey Hepburn film will always be Two for the Road.

Posted by Noel @ 08/06/2003 09:59 AM PST

Add me to the group of bored with Barbra Streisand. I was never a real fan anyway, but I never had anything against her either...but she's gone into that realm that all too many singers have ventured into...She rather show off her instrument than sing the damned song.

Keep it simple. Let me recognize the melody the composer intended. No frills and trills and escalating key changes. Just sing the damned song!

Posted by Charles Pogue @ 08/06/2003 10:06 AM PST

Happy Birthday to you . . .
Happy Birthday to you . . .
Happy Birthday Dear TD . . .
Happy Birthday to you . . .
. . . and many more!

May all your birthday wishes come true!

otanjobi omedetou gozaimasu, td-san!

Posted by Susan @ 08/06/2003 10:08 AM PST

Noel---
My favorites of the early Barbra recordings are The Third Album (with a beautiful arrangement of "Just In Time") and "Classical Barbra", but you really can't go wrong with any of her recordings from the 60s.

Posted by William E. Lurie @ 08/06/2003 10:09 AM PST

Personally, I love Barbra. I always have. If anyone has changed over the years, it is me, not her. I no longer blindly accept that something is genius just because it comes from one of my idols, whether it be Streisand, Sondheim, Pacino, or Spielberg. I have grown and matured to the point that I can look at a work of art and judge it on it’s own merits, rather than on it’s pedigree. If I think something is crap, I am willing to call it crap, regardless of the source. But at the same time, since I am now more discerning, I can appreciate greatness when I see it or hear it. Amazingly, this opens up my mind to all sorts of possibilities that my preconceived opinions might previously have blinded me. I won’t dismiss any work, just because I didn’t like a previous work by the same artist, but I will actually judge it on it’s own. That means that I won’t hate a new album by someone, before I even have a chance to listen to it.

Posted by TCB @ 08/06/2003 10:11 AM PST

I'm with Will on THE THIRD ALBUM, too. Though THE WAY WE WERE is a favorite because of "My Buddy/How About Me" - IMHO her single greatest recording, achingly beautiful, flawlessly sing with a delicate arrangement by the late great Peter Matz. It can be considered a 1960s song as it was recorded in 1967 - just not released until 1973.

Posted by MasterLcZ @ 08/06/2003 10:15 AM PST

TD..... Many happy returns of the day, old boy; glad you were born! And I hope Mom's doing better.

Love & Kisses,
Drumm

Posted by Drumm @ 08/06/2003 10:15 AM PST

Well, it was bound to happen
eventually. Last night's
performance of Sound of
Music was the first show ever
called off in the 10 years of our
summer stock company. All
our shows are at one of our
two outdoor theaters, and
we've had a somewhat rainy
show night from time to time,
but nothing like last night.

The clouds had been moving
for a couple hours before the
show, and the first few drops
started to fall while our Maria
was singing the opening
song. We took a brief pause
in the show just after the Nun's
quartet to hand out rain
ponchos to any audience
members who wanted them.
The rain just kept getting
worse and worse, but the thing
that caused us to finally call
the show was the lightning.
Probably not nearly as close
as it seemed, but definitely
distracting to the audience (not
to mention freaking out a
couple of our Von Trapp kids).
Also, the wind picked up and
was making some lovely
creaking sounds in one of our
set walls. So, we sent
everybody home right after "16
Going on 17," and that was
that. Since we ended the
show before intermission, the
company will be giving
refunds, so we lost about
$10,000 on the night.

Ah, the joys of live theatre!

Posted by Jed @ 08/06/2003 10:17 AM PST

Jed...when I was doing OKLAHOMA!, we performed at a really shabby outdoor theatre. One night, during "People Will Say We're in Love," it started getting a little windy, and as if on cue, when they sang, "Don't stand in the rain with me" the sky opened up and starting POURING. It was funny, but we had to cancel the rest of that performance. Of course, the night we had tornado warnings, even BEFORE the show started, with the green-grey sky and everything, we still did the show--for 45 people in a 2,000 seat theatre. Talk about disheartening--and scary!! There was no shelter for us had a tornado come through, but we all lived to tell the tale. I actually have a picture from that very night where you can see how dark and creepy the sky had gotten. If you want to see it, let me know. I'll send it tonight.

Posted by Jason @ 08/06/2003 10:22 AM PST

Yes, Jed, but she had already sung the title song. I would think that would qualify it as a complete performance.

Posted by TCB @ 08/06/2003 10:23 AM PST

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TD!

Jason's Q: I think the Overture from Candide and the 11 O'Clock number It's Not Where You Start, It's Where You Finish from Seesaw.

Hapgood Q: Avenue Q. It was a hoot. I loved it and I hope it has a good run. It's not selling well, in spite of very good reviews (doesn't suprise me, though) but word of mouth may work. I'm looking forward to the cast recording and to seeing it again.

WEL's Q: I have to agree w/WEL and others who have mentioned Barbara Streisand. Someone who isn't a performer in the sense of BS and others is Michael Moore. Although I agree w/him on so many issues, he just comes of as a jerk so often now that I'm embarrassed to watch him. I'm not sure I want him as the spokesman for causes I care about. I can't think of anyone else at this time but someone may be mentioned over the course of the day which will ring a bell.

We discussed the issue of expensive cabaret a bit on Sunday at our HK dinner party. It's outrageous here in NYC as well. Even little holes in the walls where people are just starting out slap on the cover and mandatory drinks and you can't walk out for under $35 to $40 (which is around the cost of a half price theatre ticket from TKTS depending on the show you see). I want to support my friends but after a while it gets expensive.

I don't know from Allison, June and Joi movies so I will refrain from answering. Sorry Jrand :-)

One of my favorite Audrey Hepburn movies is They All Laughed from 1981 (w/John Ritter, Ben Gazzara and Dorothy Stratten). I just think it's one of the most romantic and sexy movies ever. I loved it and saw it more than once when it came out (something I don't do often). Also Robin and Marian w/the ever sexy Sean Connery is an AH fave.

This is turning into a long post so I'll end here.

Posted by Ben @ 08/06/2003 10:25 AM PST

Well, it looks like JLo and Ben's publationship is over. And why not? Now that "Gigli" has opened and bombed horribly, there's no sense keeping up the sham. The ostensible reason for the break-up is the National Enquirer story about Ben and a bunch of strippers. I just hope these two pay their PR people well; they must be some of the hardest-working flaks in showbiz.

Posted by Lulu @ 08/06/2003 10:31 AM PST

Ben: you and I are of like minds regarding Michael Moore. I've done a complete 180 in my opinions of him since seeing "Roger and Me" back in '89 ('90?) and I'm uneasy with his self-appointed "spokesperson" status.

Posted by Lulu @ 08/06/2003 10:35 AM PST

Does anyone know how I can find out who Nathan and Matthew's understudys will be in December? When I pay that kind of money, I kind of want to know in advance who I am going to see.

Posted by TCB @ 08/06/2003 10:40 AM PST

Overture: Tenderloin

11 O'Clock Number: I'm Going
Back (Where I Can Be Me)

How I found this site: Vaya Maya

And a rousing happy birthday to td

Posted by Dan-in-Toronto @ 08/06/2003 10:49 AM PST

Question for BK: What was the first live musical you saw?

Posted by Dan-in-Toronto @ 08/06/2003 10:50 AM PST

TCB---
I have already e-mailed Michael Reidel and asked if he could list what performances Nathan and Matthew would actually be doing and to keep a scorecard as to how many peformances each of them misses during their 90 days. If he replies I will inform all DRs.

I have tickets for AVENUE Q next month. There are a lot of great discount coupons floating around, and the discounts are greater in September after tourist season ends. Check Theatermania.Com.

Posted by William E. Lurie @ 08/06/2003 11:06 AM PST

How did I find this website? Well, actually I was doing some research for my co-star in "Hello, Dolly!" who wanted to find some way to send Jerry Herman a fan letter thanking him for writing such a great musical. Apparently I came accross the last Carol Channing recording of Dolly, which BK produced, which took me to several other sites, and eventually to here. I consider it a red-letter day in history for me when I did. It ranks right up there between Leif Eriksson discovering America, and sliced bread.

By the way, I never did find an address to write to Jerry Herman.

Posted by TCB @ 08/06/2003 11:17 AM PST

We're glad you found us, TCB!

Posted by Lulu @ 08/06/2003 11:24 AM PST

Oh, Jason, I read that too late to give them your best wishes. It's not really a reopening anyway; they've had two days off just like any other week. I do have interesting info for you, however.

Happy Birthday, birthday people!

I'm in the Poconos with nothing to do for a week. That's not a good thing, let me be clear on that.

Posted by Don @ 08/06/2003 11:31 AM PST

Happy Birthday td!

My Query: BK, do you actually think people LIKE matzoh balls? Or do they just SAY they're really great because of the whole cultural thingamabobber?

Call me an ignorant goy (I've been called worse in my life) but I had a matzoh ball for the first time yesterday and it totally disgusted me.

The worst part: I was at one of my good friends' grandparents' house helping them move furniture (yes - give the girl with the inner ear troubles antique furniture to move) and I mentioned my ear problems. The grandmother reheated some matzoh ball soup for me and it was all I could do to stop from gagging in front of the extremely nice woman. The soup was delish so I ate around the floating disgusto-balls.

Needless to say, despite all the promises of Mrs. Blaichman as for the recuperative powers of the awful soup, the right side of my head is still extremely painful to the touch.

On Friday I get to see a doctor! Woohoo! Yippee!

Posted by Emily @ 08/06/2003 11:34 AM PST

Wowie--50 comments this early! We are indutibaly and undoubtedly the most popular site on the internet now!

Let me start off by throwing a tinsel crown on TD's head and wishing him a very, very happy birthday!

Dan--wow, I love the rhyme...Vaya Maya. It sounds like some Bollywood movie.

I myself found HHW through a simple route--ATC. There was a banner link at the top of the page I think. Of course, BK's chef d'internet quickly replaced ATC as my favorite theatre forum/website.

Hmm...I think I would begin my life musical with the Gypsy overture and end with Maybe This Time, which isn't really an 11 o'clock number technically, (it isn't even from the original Broadway Cabaret, of course) but kinda has the same tone.

If I could bitch-slap anyone, it would probably be one of my ex-boyfriends who didn't even have the originality to hurt me in a novel way--he started dating my roommate in NYC. Of course, it doesn't hurt anymore to think of him, but it would be incredibly satisfying to whip my hand across his face like some Woman Avenged, hehe.

There aren't really any performers who I used to love and don't anymore. I'm a loyal fan I guess. Though there have been performers who I didn't used to like and who I do now.

For Ask BK day--if a movie was made of your life, which famous actor would you want to play you? (That is, if you didn't want to play yourself).

Feel free, Dear Readers to answer the same question!

And finally a little bit of good news--I got hired by my school as an English tutor! (So if I start nitpicking on spelling and grammar here, please don't bitch-slap me!)

Posted by Maya @ 08/06/2003 11:39 AM PST

Emily, it sounds like somewhichway you were magically spirited away to Little Rascals Land, where you accidentally ate of soup into which mothballs had accidentally fallen. You then sat around the table making furtive faces, as did your good friends Jackie, Maryann, and Wheezer. Perhaps you even occasionally spat a mothball out into your napkin, but only when the kindly old lady was looking away.

A traumatic incident, to be sure, but I hope you're fully recovered by now. And as for the ear thing...an issue of the British Good Housekeeping (circa the '20s) says that for an earache, you should boil an onion for awhile, then peel off the outer layers and insert the inner bulb into your ear "as hot as can be borne." That should cure your earache lickety-split, no need to visit the doctor.

Posted by Lulu @ 08/06/2003 11:40 AM PST

Thank you, Lulu!

Emily, I know that the question was for BK, but personally I love matzo balls, if they are made correctly. They are kind of like dumplings, they can either be wonderful, or they can be lead weights. And good gefilte fish is out of this world.

Posted by TCB @ 08/06/2003 11:45 AM PST

Allison, June, Joi question came from DR MBarnum!

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/06/2003 11:50 AM PST

Okay Lulu - what are you smoking and can it cure ear infections too? :)

I doubt that the onion thing would do anything more than make me smell like an onion ring.

TCB - I HAVE had gelfite fish before and it was, while not nearly as bad as the balls, still not something I would ever voluntarily eat.

I think my dislike of predominantly "Jewish" food ties in with the same one I have for Eastern European delicacies. My family is part Polish/Romanian/Hungarian/Russian/Ukrainian (wow I didn't realize how many countries that is) and the thought of munching on a pierogie or cabbage roll or goulash is equally disgusting to me as gelfite fish and matzoh balls.

Posted by Emily @ 08/06/2003 11:51 AM PST

Emily--I'm half-Jewish (on my mum's side) and I don't really eat a lot of Jewish foods either. I highly recommend, however, a very sweet, yummy bread called challah. I used to eat boatfuls of that stuff in pre-school.

Feel better soon.

Posted by Maya @ 08/06/2003 11:55 AM PST

Forgot the bitchslap question

I would bitchslap, en masse, Jerry Falwell and his entire ilk (is an ilk a group?) for their assertion that we (meaning me and my homo friends) are causing the world to go to hell in a handbasket. I just spent part of this past weekend with two of the most kind, generous, friendly and sweet men I have ever met. They have been together for 30 (THIRTY) years. If this is degrading and degenerate and the beginning of the end of the modern world, I'll take it any day over Mr. Falwell's vision.

I am now off my soap box. Thank you very much for reading :-)

Posted by Ben @ 08/06/2003 11:55 AM PST

Emily...there is something that might help relieve some of the pain. Its called an ear candle (I know, it sounds bizzare, but its fantastic). Its basically a hollow tube that's tapered at the end, and you stick it in your ear and light the other end. The heat from the flame creates a vacuum that will pull some of the moisture out of your ear (and ear wax, as well...amazing amounts of it). The warmth will also sooth some of the pain. When the candle is about 3/4 burn, you blow it out and, if you're brave enough, unroll it to see what comes out. Its amazing, but you obviously will need someone to help you do it, since there are flames involved and you'll be laying on your side, anyway. I think you can get the candles at health-food stores and they're relatively cheap.

Posted by Jason @ 08/06/2003 11:57 AM PST

Noel: Unless you want to
spring for a recording truck,
you're probably best patching
in through the sound system
and going direct to DAT or
something. Or, for a fairly
reasonable price you could
split off the house board and
bring in a small mixing board,
so that you had some control
over the reverb and so you
wouldn't get screwed up by the
house mix if something went
wrong. Also, be prepared to
do pickups afterwards, and
maybe to record the rehearsal,
so you have some choices.

I can't think of anyone working
today that I'd like to have play
me - unless it's someone like
Tom Hanks. If Benjamin
Kritzer ever sees life as a film,
I can't wait to see who they
find.

The first live show I saw was
Rosalie, at the MUNY in St.
Louis (there's almost a whole
chapter devoted to it in
Kritzerland).

If the matzoh balls are home
made by someone who knows
how to make them they can
certainly be amusing and
tasty. Not something I ever
CRAVE, though, like Ben and
Jerry's coconut fudge chip
almond ice cream.

My favorite Streisand album is
the one with Too Long at the
Fair, and the other one with
Autumn and My Lord and
Master on it.

Posted by bk @ 08/06/2003 12:03 PM PST

BK--when I was in Rehoboth Beach, I stopped at a Ben and Jerry's and tried the coconut fudge chip almond ice cream....SOOOO YUMMMYY. But that stuff should come with a warning label: Highly hazardous to your waistline!

Have you ever tried Dippendots Ice Cream? They're like these little tiny balls of ice cream and they kind of melt together in your mouth in this amazing textured ice-cream sensory overload. So yummy!

Posted by Maya @ 08/06/2003 12:08 PM PST

Maya: Dip*n*dots Banana Split is my very favorite ice cream in the world!! The dots are so cold that they give off a steam...like dry ice. I love them, I love them, I love them! Anyone know where you can get them in NYC?

Posted by Jason @ 08/06/2003 12:10 PM PST

I have had delicious matzoh balls and inedible matzoh balls. I think the best has been in delis that specialize in matzoh ball soup. Some of the worst have been homemade by people who are generally excellent cooks but somehow have not mastered the matzoh ball. So don't give up on your first try. Order some in a deli and you may change your mind.

Posted by William E. Lurie @ 08/06/2003 12:10 PM PST

Did Ben just infer that there are gay homosexuals posting to this board?

Perish the thought.

Posted by Don @ 08/06/2003 12:12 PM PST

I don't have to say "just kidding" for anyone to realize that, right? For future reference, being the newbie here?

Posted by Don @ 08/06/2003 12:13 PM PST

Both gay AND straight
homosexuals post here, and
we pride ourselves on that and
other things of that nature. We
also have senses of humor
here, something that is sorely
lacking on certain other
boards where drugstores
make posts.

Posted by bk @ 08/06/2003 12:15 PM PST

Don: FYI, I just got a copy of "Philip Quast: Live at the Donmar" on CD. I'm assuming you'll want a copy to accompany the Anthony Warlow CDs?

Posted by Jason @ 08/06/2003 12:17 PM PST

Gotta do it...I'm no. 69!!

Posted by Jason @ 08/06/2003 12:17 PM PST

Yes, Don. Sometimes you do.

Posted by Dave @ 08/06/2003 12:18 PM PST

Jason--I haven't tried the banana split Dip n Dots, but the chocolate is nirvana! My sister, a true gourmande if there ever was one, says that Dip n Dots is the Ice Cream of God.

Are there any metrosexuals who post here??

Posted by Maya @ 08/06/2003 12:19 PM PST

Gay homosexuals? Is there anyother kind? And just for the record, the word "gay" refers to both genders, so the term "Gay and Lesbian" is actually redundant.

Michael Reidel just answered my e-mail. While he didn't say if he was going to keep a "missed performances scorecard" on Nathan and Matthew he did totally agree with me on how the stars of today do not get held accountable for all their missed performances.

Posted by William E. Lurie @ 08/06/2003 12:25 PM PST

I've known some very unhappy homosexuals, therefore there is such a thing as a not-gay homosexual.

Posted by Jason @ 08/06/2003 12:28 PM PST

Well, Don, are you prepared to be attacked for your senseless and demeaning comments? Nah, I didn't think so.

Dippin' dots banana split is currently being featured at McDonalds in the Pacific Northwest. I don't know about the rest of New York, Jason, but I think you can still get them at Yankee Stadium.

Posted by TCB @ 08/06/2003 12:33 PM PST

WEL - It may be different where you live, but on the West Coast, lesbians prefer not to be called "gay".

Posted by TCB @ 08/06/2003 12:37 PM PST

Overture: Overture Delle Donne -- "Nine" (the nurturing influences at work)

11 O'Clock Number: Poor Everybody Else -- "Seesaw"

I agree with BK: Yesterday's verbal contretemps at Broadwayworld.com message board was a trifle. Up the ante and BK ups the voltage in exponentially greater amounts!

I understand Mr. Lurie's point of view, but some of us, Mr. Lurie, simply cannot take that higher road every time: Sometimes, people say things so stupid, or are so insufferably snotty, or whatever, that they forfeit our right to ignore them.

For Ask BK:

Whatever happened to good manners? A "for instance" -- a friend calls you at work to catch up with you, suggests you do lunch together on Thursday, you agree on a restaurant, and then the friend says, "Well, you'd better call me and remind me an hour before."

Anyone who proposes the lunch OUGHT to be able to remember it without imposing on the person he or she proposed lunch to.

A co-worker sends you an e-mail with a document attached, asking you to kindly proofread the document and make any recommendations for improving it. You do this, using redline and non-printing editorial boxes to make recommendations at various points. You send the e-mail back. A day later, the co-worker calls and asks if you have had time to look over the document. You reply you've done it and sent it back via e-mail. The co-worker then asks you to print it out and bring it to him or her as he/she doesn't have time to do it him/herself.

Rude? I think so. Ill-mannered, I say YES!

Am I being oversensitive?

Please advise, Dear BK!

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/06/2003 12:37 PM PST

I just read a rumor (and a rumor it is not yet confirmed) that the lovely and VERY talented Susan Egan might just be stepping back into Cabaret as Sally soon.

This makes me happier than Benjamin Kritzer meeting Susan Pomeroy!

Posted by Craig @ 08/06/2003 12:40 PM PST

Pomeroy?

Pomeroy?

Wasn't there a character on TV named "Miss Pomeroy?"

Was that Gale Storm's last name in the show, "Oh! Susannah!"?

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/06/2003 12:43 PM PST

Okay, what the hell are
metrosexuals? Why do they need
their own category, as if being a
straight man who has some sense of
style and doesn't treat woen like
objects is such a novelty. If I were
straight, I'd find that offensive, as if
neanderthal were the default setting
for straight men. I ask the straight
men here, is that true?
It also seems to be using a very
strange definition of what sexuality
is, as if it were related to anything
other than sexuality. A gay man who
is an electrician is no less gay than a
gay man who flounces his way
through fashion design. Neither is
more or less valid.
I guess this rant shows that one type
that I would like to bitchslap is the
people who try to co-opt sexuality,
and connect it to a whole range of
stereotypes, and those who say that
people who fit certain stereotypes
hurt everyone.
My experience with Matzoh Balls
has mostly been delightful. When
made right, they are heavenly.
Jason: the ear candle sounds
bizarrely fun. Like a treasure hunt
and a remedy, all in one!
I found this site through
Sondheim.com, advice given by Mr.
Mark Bakalor.
The last play I saw was "I Hate This",
an autobiographical play about a
man whose son was stillborn. It was
wrenching and painful, but
surprisingly funny, and not just
because of gallows humor. And in
the end, it was life-affirming. It is
currently at the Minnesota Fringe
Festival, so if anyone is in that area, I
highly recommend seeing it.

Posted by Hapgood @ 08/06/2003 12:44 PM PST

BK: Is Juliana really like that in real life? That is, the way she writes, complimenting everyone and how everyone is so wonderful and all that? Not making fun or being critical; I'm genuinely curious.

Maybe the "trolls" on the other board don't like her because they don't think she's being honest. After all, we know what it's really like backstage: there's a lot more drama than Juliana's Journal would have us believe! I'm waiting for her to report the real stories from the road. Maybe she's just too innocent to notice. God bless her.

Q for anyone: How do you do bold and italics?

My musical: Overture would be Candide and 11 o'clock would be Who Let the Dogs Out.

Posted by Belor @ 08/06/2003 12:45 PM PST

Hapgood--Sorry to offend you with the question about metrosexuals. I realize that you couldn't see my tongue in my cheek. I find this new term at once kind of funny and perplexing. Of course there are straight men who have gay characteristics and vice versa, and I find it kind of sadly amusing how people need trendy Sex and the Cityized terms to well, come to terms with different varieties of people.

Though I do have to say, while there are some very smart, well-groomed and cultivated straight men, in my personal experience, I have found most of them to be "neanderthals" and have often wished that I was born a lesbian.

Posted by Maya @ 08/06/2003 12:49 PM PST

And welcome, Belor!

Posted by Maya @ 08/06/2003 12:51 PM PST

Belor:

Type an

And everything afterward will be italicized.

To stop it

Type an

And everything following it will be normal.

For BOLD, substitute a "b" (sans quotation marks) for the "i"

When it's Thursday and our DR François starts posting, it's important you learn to type a ç

Press Alt 0231 and, "le voila," you get "ç"!

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/06/2003 12:51 PM PST

bk wrote: >
..........
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!!!!
If you're talking about who I think you're talking about, Bruce, you owe me for the orange pulp I just spewed all over screen & keyboard. (I was masticating at the time.)

Funny, funny; and too true.

Posted by Drumm @ 08/06/2003 12:53 PM PST

ROTFLMAO

I see the uppercase/comma and uppercase/period don't "show" 00

The first blank is a bracket that looks like a V but on its right side. The second blank looks like a V but on its left side.

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/06/2003 12:54 PM PST

HEY!!!! Why wasn't my bk quote included in my post above??!!!! I did everything right, I thought. Aww, poopie.

Anyway, I was quoting bk's remark from above that people here have senses of humor, as opposed to other boards where drugstores make posts.
That still tickles me...

Posted by Drumm @ 08/06/2003 12:55 PM PST

I was listening to the late great and sadly missed Laurie Beechman. I have all her albums except the one with the Sighs *sigh*

My question has to do with the song Half a Moment from ALW Album. At approximately 2:40 the music sound very familar. On a repeated listening I realized that is sound like a measure from As If We Never Said Goodbye From Sunset Blvd. I know that Half a Moment was written first.

So my question is this: Was this your arrangement for Half a Moment and you included a musical phrase from AIWNSG or did ALW rip himself off (for a change)in composing the song for SB?

I remember reading an article in the great and sadly missed SHOW MUSIC about ALW music for Sunset and how he recycled a majority of his score including music for Cricket, The Odessa Files and others. I don't remember if Half a Moment was mention or not.

Posted by Michael Shayne @ 08/06/2003 12:56 PM PST

My God, I think we may just hit 100 posts before 5:00 EDT!

I've just finished listening to a new song by Jason Robert Brown called "Letting You Go." Its one of those "keeping myself busy, hoping you'll turn around and come back to me" songs and its the most hollow, lonely-feeling song I think I've ever heard. I listened to it 10 times in a row, as performed by Ms. Lauren Kennedy and also by Mr. Philip Quast. If you haven't heard this song, you really should. I think everyone would be able to relate to it...

Posted by Jason @ 08/06/2003 12:56 PM PST

I stand corrected, or in this case, sit corrected. Since I do not live on the entire West Coast and because I am not a lesbian, I can not speak for the lesbian population of the West Coast. Therefore, let me say that the lesbians that I know personally in this small corner of Washington State, prefer not be called "gay."

Posted by TCB @ 08/06/2003 12:57 PM PST

This is sooooo hinky.

Use the first bracket, type a "b" and use the second bracket.

Everything after THAT will be bold (if you use an "i", it will be italicized).

To stop it, use the first bracket, type a /, then type a "b" (or "i"), and then use the second bracket, and all will return to normal.

Now...let's see if any of THAT disappears.

Posted by Ron PUlliam @ 08/06/2003 12:57 PM PST

like thus ron?

( )

or like this?

Posted by emily @ 08/06/2003 12:58 PM PST

whoops a billion

Posted by whoops @ 08/06/2003 12:58 PM PST

Jason - YES! Philip Quast... um, yes please! BTW, if you have any access to his RSC recording of "Secret Garden" ... the one on which he's Archibald... that'd be like a Red Ryder BB gun for Christmas...

To any who may've been actually or pretended to be offended by my earlier comment, I both apologize and do not.

I apologize for offending anyone unintentionally, mea culpa mea culpa. It was a simple, common jest, however, simple sarcasm and mock horror. I'm new, so if you all got that and some of you are just razzing the new guy for trying to be funny it worked. Seriously, though, it's an obvious joke..."gay homosexuals" being in itself a silly and redundant turn of phrase and obviously tinged with ridiculous redneckitude.

Posted by Don @ 08/06/2003 12:59 PM PST

I'm thinking it was the "other", Emily. The parentheticals aren't the ones.

Literally, the bracket you need to use looks lie a V, but on its side. It's the "greater than," "less than" sign.

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/06/2003 01:00 PM PST

Don: Our very own Dear Reader Tom from Oz would have better access to the SECRET GARDEN recording with Anthony Warlow and Philip Quast, since DR Tom lives in Australia! Perhaps you should ask him if he has it...

Posted by Jason @ 08/06/2003 01:03 PM PST

The question about "metrosexuals"
did not offend me, it was the very
need or such a term. I hope that my
response didn't seem conpletely
humorless.

Posted by Hapgood @ 08/06/2003 01:05 PM PST

Don....you're a good egg!

I doubt anyone is offended in the least, so far as I can tell.

Hope not, cause I could see which side of the bread your butter was on!

: )

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/06/2003 01:05 PM PST

Anybody watch "Boy Meets Boy" last night?

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/06/2003 01:08 PM PST

Haha! Ron Pulliam: Don is straight.

Posted by Jason @ 08/06/2003 01:09 PM PST

Hapgood--you are anything but humorless!

Posted by Maya @ 08/06/2003 01:09 PM PST

Who's the hundreth post? Its me! Its me!

Posted by Jason @ 08/06/2003 01:09 PM PST

Although many Lesbians prefer not to be called "gay", the term is not gender specific. To say "Gay and Lesbian" is redundant; to say "Gay Men and Lesbians" is not.

As for "Metrosexual", this is a term invented by the New York Times a few weeks ago to refer to straight men who get facials and pedicures, have an interest in clothing and the Arts, go to the gym regularrly, and participate in other supposedly gay activities but are sexually straight. This is perhaps the most unnecessary term yet.

Posted by William E. Lurie @ 08/06/2003 01:09 PM PST

I never implied that he wasn't...only that his comments were not phrased as "offensive"!

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/06/2003 01:10 PM PST

To do bold, all you need to do is put two * on either side of the words you want in bold.

Posted by TCB @ 08/06/2003 01:10 PM PST

It would have worked if it hadn't been for you pesky kids! Dang it!!

Oh, well...congrats to all for hitting 100 posts by 4:15 in the P.M. on the east coast!!

Posted by Jason @ 08/06/2003 01:10 PM PST

Maya was #100... Jason you were #101.

Posted by William E. Lurie @ 08/06/2003 01:11 PM PST

Yay...go me!

Jason, you get a hug in consolation!

Posted by Maya @ 08/06/2003 01:12 PM PST

Yes, WEL, I realize that. Thank you for pointing out.

Posted by Jason @ 08/06/2003 01:13 PM PST

At any rate, back to "Boy Meets Boy" -- two of the men kicked off last night were "straight", but neither "obviously" so.

I have a feeling that one of the guys remaining...who is prominently in promos as asking "Why did you presume I'm gay?"...is going to say he is "straight", but he's the nelliest one on the show. Go figure.

One guy, I'm not sure which, who was supposed to be straight, decided he couldn't be straight any more after his experience on the show.

It's all laughable and inane.

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/06/2003 01:15 PM PST

*This* I *must* try out!

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/06/2003 01:16 PM PST

For italics put a left carat followed by the letter "I" followed by a right carat. At the end of what you want italicized it is the same except / goes before the letter I.

For bold it is the same thing with a B instead of an I.

Always preview your message to make sure it worked and if it did not, correct it before you post.

Does anyone know how to underline?

Posted by William E. Lurie @ 08/06/2003 01:16 PM PST

Oh! You said put two of those asterisks.

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/06/2003 01:17 PM PST

Wow! That's GREAT!

What are some other tricks? Like for italics??????

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/06/2003 01:18 PM PST

Hello fellow DR's, I am indeed babysitting a 10 year old and 2 12 year old boys, and am going crazy. I finally got them to go and play playstation so that I could have a few seconds of peace and quiet. And WOW!!! Look how many posts! I'm so proud *tear*

And now for les questionnes.

11 o'clock: I'm The Greatest Star

Overture: Thoroughly Modern Millie

Bitchslap: My eighth grade english teacher. Crazy, smokes, and didn't give a damn. Read my post yesterdayn for details.

Someone I like and now Dislike: Mariah Carey. I used to "idolize" her, but now she is just trashy.

How I Found This Site: I stumbled upon Julianas Journal and explored the site. Everyone welcomed me so nicely :)

I'll get to the rest later!

Posted by Sarah @ 08/06/2003 01:22 PM PST

And now it's on to 120!!!

Final dress tonight for "Music Man". We open in Jericho NY tomorrow night at 8PM. Please email for directions/tkts if interested. Review to follow.

AS for "Ask BK": If you were to recast "The Music Man" with current performers, who would you pick for Harold and Marion?

...and if you could have an "ideal" cast (from any era), which two actors would you select?

Posted by Phil @ 08/06/2003 01:24 PM PST

Sarah---
It's nice to have you on as a DR and to be able to help a musical theatre fan learn terms correctly. An "11:00 number" is a song that comes towards the end of a show (when shows started later it was actually sung around 11:00) and is usually a big number for the star. Some examples: "Rose's Turn" from GYPSY; "I'm Going Back" from BELLS ARE RINGING; "All of My Life" from DO RE ME. An "I want" song comes towards the beginning of a show and explains what the character hopes to get or explains the character: "Some People" from GYPSY, "Waiting For My Dearie" from BRIGADOON. Therefore "I'm the Greatest Star" is an "I want" song. The 11:00 number from FUNNY GIRL is
"The Music That Makes Me Dance". I know that nobody teaches this kind of stuff any more, but now you know a little more about the form of a good musical. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

Posted by William E Lurie @ 08/06/2003 01:33 PM PST

Oh, I almost forgot:

Bitch-Slap: All Internet Trolls.

Used to like/Not anymore: Mariah Carey gets my vote, too. Ditto to Jason, who said

Her debut album was dynamite, but then what happened?!?! She slutted herself up (clothing-wise...I have no idea what her personal life is like, nor do I care) to sell more albums instead of continuing to put out good music.

I couldn't have said it any better myself, and therefore, will not.

Posted by Belor @ 08/06/2003 01:36 PM PST

Dear BK and anyone else who wants to answer,

Have you ever found a potato chip that looked like anyone famous? If so, what did you do with it? I found one once that looked like Jimmy Neutron and I ate it.

If I could slap anyone like a female dog, it would be the two remaining members of my small group in my Communications class who still haven't sent me pictures for our group assignment. Feng-shui girl and the girl who sighs a lot.

And I just want to add that last night on M*A*S*H, Hawkeye said "unseemly." This is the only group of people I know who would appreciate that.

Posted by Sandra @ 08/06/2003 01:36 PM PST

If she wants "I'm the Greatest Star" to be her 11 o'clock number, more power to her. It is the musical about her, after all.

Posted by Jason @ 08/06/2003 01:36 PM PST

Did you dip Jimmy in some frosting before you ate him, DR Sandra? DR Kerry was regaling us with tales of your eating habits. I'll try the chips and frosting, but floop? I dunno... :-)

DR Sarah: If you want an "I want" song to be your 11 o'clock number, then go for it. Its the musical about you, so you do what you want. I toast it!

Posted by Jason @ 08/06/2003 01:40 PM PST

As a straight man, I find the term "metrosexual" offensive - not just for my own sake, but for the sake of my many gay friends. It manages to perpetuate the worst kind of stereotypes of both gay and straight men, all in one word.

Jason, it's funny you should be listening to "Letting You Go", since I was listening to the same song (Lauren Kennedy's rendition) on my lunch hour. Lovely tune.

One performer I have just about lost patience for is Mandy Patinkin. I used to find him quite enjoyable, but his more recent efforts have been self-parodying.

I didn't grow up listening to Barbra Streisand, so my exposure has been mostly confined to her more recent work, which I can't stand. That said, I have started listening to her work in the 1960's, before she became so self-conscious, and it is far more enjoyable.

The problem in both these cases is that is hard to appreciate the earlier work without being tainted by the later material.

Ron may be right to suggest that an anonymous troll deserves our ire, but I still think that the best way to respond in such a case is by taking the high road. If we wish to defend ourselves or our friends - especially the lovable Juliana, then we should do so without resorting to ad hominem attacks. If we bring ourselves down to the level of our opponent, then s/he has won.

Posted by Dave @ 08/06/2003 01:41 PM PST

To ALL:

What is your vote for the best "I Want" song?

Mine is "Up There", sung by Satan in South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut. A more perfect example of an "I Want" song would be hard to find, but I encourage you all to try.

Posted by Belor @ 08/06/2003 01:42 PM PST

Hmm...that's odd... I wrote the first comment, posted it and it didn't show up, so I wrote the second blurb and posted and the FIRST one showed up. Then I closed the window, and now BOTH are posted. What's going on with this wacky computer!?!

Posted by Jason @ 08/06/2003 01:42 PM PST

Jimmy was a sour cream and onion potato chip, so I didn't put anything extraneous on him. But now that I think about it...

Pass the maple syrup and spaghetti sauce.

Posted by Sandra @ 08/06/2003 01:46 PM PST

I don't think it's your computer that's wacky, Jason, because my comment hasn't shown up either.

Posted by Sandra @ 08/06/2003 01:49 PM PST

Sandra, stop! You're making me hungry.

Oh...wait, it's okay; it's almost time for supper. Orange honey cashew chicken over linguine! Mmmmmmmm...

Posted by Lulu @ 08/06/2003 01:54 PM PST

Yes DR Ron, Gale's name in OH SUSANNA! was Susanna Pomeroy.

And in My Little Margie it was Margie Albright.

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/06/2003 01:55 PM PST

There it is.

Posted by Sandra @ 08/06/2003 01:55 PM PST

Trying something

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/06/2003 01:56 PM PST

Maple syrup and spaghetti sauce?!?! Oh, my gosh!!

Perhaps you should try my infamous banana croquettes...

Cut bananas into 2" long chunks, cover them in Miracle Whip and then roll them in chopped peanuts. Serve chilled. They're WONDERFUL!

Posted by Jason @ 08/06/2003 01:56 PM PST

Alan Menken and Howard Ashman were the kings of the "I Want" song. Here are a few:

Part of Your World
Belle
Somewhere That's Green

Even without Ashman, Menken has written some great "I want" songs:

Stop and See Me
Out There
Go the Distance
Santa Fe

and more...

Posted by Dave @ 08/06/2003 01:56 PM PST

I just watched an episode of My Little Margie this morning. It was the one where Margie and her goofy boyfriend have a wacky scheme to help her father, and instead they accidentally wind up causing mischief to her father, but then everything turns out all right in the end.

Remember that one?

Posted by Lulu @ 08/06/2003 01:56 PM PST

Trying

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/06/2003 01:58 PM PST

Thanks for reminding me, D. I think Somewhere That's Green may just be my favorite "I want" song.

Posted by Lulu @ 08/06/2003 01:58 PM PST

Wasn't that every episode, Lulu? Except when Margie and Mrs Odets caused the trouble instead of Margie and Freddie?

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/06/2003 01:59 PM PST

Wasn't that every episode, Lulu? Except when Mrs. Odets and Margie caused trouble instead of Margie and Freddie?

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/06/2003 02:00 PM PST

Well...heh heh heh...that's my little Mahgie.

Posted by Vern Albright @ 08/06/2003 02:06 PM PST

Extras like bold must cause a lag...

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/06/2003 02:07 PM PST

I love Mrs. Odet's. Do you suppose the actress playing her had any idea what was going on?

Posted by MBarnum @ 08/06/2003 02:09 PM PST

D-d-d-d-d-d

--- Margie and Susannah

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/06/2003 02:13 PM PST

Sorry, I was gone for a few doing work.

WEL - Did you want to know how to underline?

Posted by TCB @ 08/06/2003 02:13 PM PST

What have I started? Now everybody is using bold.

Posted by TCB @ 08/06/2003 02:17 PM PST

..and for those of you who have not yet decided what your favorite June Kenney movie is, well here is a list of her major movies from which to choose from:

EARTH VS THE SPIDER
VIKING WOMEN AND THE SEA SERPENT
HOT CAR GIRL
TEENAGE DOLL
BLOODLUST
THE CAT BURGLAR
SORORITY GIRL
ATTACK OF THE PUPPET PEOPLE

Now you should be able to find something out of that group of titles to be a favorite!! (How would you like to have that resume!)

Posted by MBarnum @ 08/06/2003 02:18 PM PST

Happy Birthday, td!

My musical: Overature - THE ROAR OF THE GREASEPAINT, THE SMELL OF THE CROWD

11 o'clock number - "Losing My Mind"

Yep, I must admit I'm addicted to BOY MEETS BOY. My picks (for myself) for the final four: Robb, Wes, Franklin, Michael. I assume at least two of these are straight men, but that's the nature of the show; you don't kow who's straight and who isn't. I have lousy gaydar.

Posted by Matt H. @ 08/06/2003 02:23 PM PST

...and David.. you might also want to note that Somewhere that's Green and Part of Your World are very similar in melody...

Corner of the Sky is the epitome of an I Want song..

Interesting that GYPSY's 11 o'clock # is also an I WANT song of sorts...

Posted by Craig @ 08/06/2003 02:27 PM PST

**An "I want" song comes towards the beginning of a show and explains what the character hopes to get or explains the character: "Some People" from GYPSY, "Waiting For My Dearie" from BRIGADOON. Therefore "I'm the Greatest Star" is an "I want" song. The 11:00 number from FUNNY GIRL is
"The Music That Makes Me Dance". I know that nobody teaches this kind of stuff any more**

I do. And my students listen.

Favorite I Want song is probably Don't Laugh from Hot Spot, although I first heard it as part of Phyllis Newman's Madwoman of Central Park West.

I aspire to be a metrosexual, (even if there's no need for such a term) but have no sense of style or grooming. And yet people regularly assume I'm gay. Go figure.

Shea Stadium sells Dippindots, but I've never tried them.

Posted by Noel @ 08/06/2003 02:27 PM PST

I posted something ten
minutes ago that hasn't shown
up - is this a problem we're
having today?

Posted by bk @ 08/06/2003 02:34 PM PST

Several of us have noticed that we have had to refresh our browsers in order for the post to appear. Perhaps the site has become so popular, the server can't handle the traffic?

Posted by Dave @ 08/06/2003 02:39 PM PST

Shouldn't be a server problem.
I got a copy of my post so I
know it went through. Here it
is, just in case it doesn't show:

You know, I'm thinkin' we
might just hit 100 posts today.
 
What do you think?  Holy
moley on rye, I go away to do
an hour pre-mix session with
Grant Geissman and I come
back to find that soon we will
be the most popular site on all
the Internet - so many posts!  

I like the term metrosexual as
long as it defines people who
have sex on the metroline.  

A potato chip that looks like a
famous person?   Not really,
although there are several
potato chips that look like
acquaintences of mine.

Music Man - me as Harold
Hill,me as Marian Paroo, me
as Eulalie Donna McKechnie
Shinn, and guest starring me
as Marcellus Washburn.

Yes, Juliana is really like that
in real life.  While I'm sure
there is occasional drama
backstage (or there will be) it
would not be seemly for her to
report on it - in fact, given the
fact that her producers and
other cast members read her
journal, it would be downright
stupid.  But, it's not in her
nature anyway, and no matter
how hard we may try, we may
not change her nature.

Yes, I believe Mr. Lloyd
Webber ripped himself off vis
a vis the bridge of Half a
Moment/As If We Never Said
Goodbye.

Posted by bk @ 08/06/2003 02:44 PM PST

Now we are not only the most popular site on the internet, but we also have the most bold type.

Posted by TCB @ 08/06/2003 02:45 PM PST

dang it to heck.

I'm still trying to work out the bolding and italicizing

Posted by Emily the not so Bold... and not so Italicized @ 08/06/2003 02:46 PM PST

TCB... what the heck is a carat!?! :)

Posted by Emily @ 08/06/2003 02:48 PM PST

and don't tell me it's a vegetable

Posted by Emily @ 08/06/2003 02:49 PM PST

^ is a carat.

Posted by TCB @ 08/06/2003 02:55 PM PST

Jrand: Of course that was every episode of My Little Margie. That was my point. :)

eg: I was watching Gilligan's Island today. Maybe you've seen this episode...it was the one where they try to get off the island.

See?

Posted by Lulu @ 08/06/2003 02:57 PM PST

Emily,

These are carats: ><

Posted by Dave @ 08/06/2003 02:57 PM PST

Did y'all ever catch that episode of Three's Company, where Mr. Roper thought the "kids" were all having sex, but it was all just a big misunderstanding?

Posted by Dave @ 08/06/2003 02:58 PM PST

OK, I've gotta try my hand at this whole ital. thingy...

That's my little Mah-gee!

Posted by Lulu @ 08/06/2003 03:03 PM PST

Wow, Lulu. I'm impressed

Posted by TCB @ 08/06/2003 03:04 PM PST

Success!

Dave: I don't think I've seen that one. But I have seen the one where The Kids don't have enough money for rent, so they cook up a scheme to get the money and Mr. Furley winds up thinking they're all having sex but it was just a misunderstanding and Mr. Furley also doesn't realize that he's not nearly as attractive as he thinks he is. I've seen that one.

Posted by Lulu @ 08/06/2003 03:06 PM PST

TCB: You, sir, are a show-off.

Posted by Lulu @ 08/06/2003 03:08 PM PST

I was under the impression that the 11 o'clock number was kind of the showstopper. When I hear "I'm The Greatest Star", I get goosebumps five thousand times over(another great example is Sutton Foster singing "Gimme Gimme"). I figured, it's my show, I'm puttin a great song there. But thank you for your, umm...*is tired and can't find right word in her brain*...information? That'll have to do. *Wants to make a point that she is not irked at DR WEL, as she thinks that it may sound like that :)*

Now for the rest of les questionnes:

In a movie about me, who would play me: Um....I haven't got the slightest idea...Audrey Hepburn, I suppose, but she's dead...who knows, I haven't thought about it.

Do I like DIp'n'Dots: YES! Neopolitian, yummmmmmmmm *is that spelled right?*

And now for Ask BK Day: Since you are always talking about various and sundried foodstuffs, give me a few examples of such food.

Ask Dr's (and bk may answer too), since you were talking about homosexuals, did anyone watch Queer Eye for the Straight Guy? i was interested in seeing how that went over.

BTW, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TD!!! May you have many years more to dance like the wind :)

And Congrats to Maya on your smashing new English job!

I have realized that 10-12 year old boys are some of the funniest things ever. Who could know that beating each other up and acting stupid could provide so many laughs?

Posted by Sarah @ 08/06/2003 03:17 PM PST

OMG, I just found out that Suzanne Pleshette and Tom Poston married in 2001! Suzanne, of course, was Emily on The Bob Newhart Show and Tom was the handyman on Newhart.

How weird is this?

*They dated each other in 1959, then married other people.

*They dated again in the early '60s, post-divorce.

*They each married other people again, in 1968.

*In 2000, Suzanne was widowed and Tom called her with condolences (his wife had passed away in 1998). They started dating again and finally got hitched!

It's enough to make this cynic misty-eyed...talk amongst yourselves, I'm farklempt!

Posted by Lulu @ 08/06/2003 03:18 PM PST

TCB: We have no doubt that YOU can do it, but will you tell US how to do an underline?

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/06/2003 03:18 PM PST

"Where's the rest of me?"

Posted by G.I. Joe (looking down in the shower) @ 08/06/2003 03:24 PM PST

Re Streisand: I am most likely to play "Simply Streisand" or "People". I still buy her albums (except for the last Christmas one) but they don't stay on the playlist for long. "Guilty" still sounds good but I really just forget about everything since. The David Foster overproduction of "Somewhere" was a great turn off.
Mariah Carey " I couldn't even start. The warbles!!! What do I know about success? I thought the Mariah/Whitney #1 from Prince of Egypt was so dreadful - and the song is great. (The BK Schwartz was is brilliant)

Posted by Tom from Oz @ 08/06/2003 03:25 PM PST

Home from work. Usually there are a few posts in the hour or so it takes but there were about 40 more! Wow. Now if everyone posting here today remembers to post on a Sunday as well we could reach over 100 every day.

TCB - Yes I want the secret of underlining on this here site. Post it or e-mail me with it.

Lulu - What station is showing MY LITLE MARGIE? Did you know that show started as the summer replacement for I LOVE LUCY? That was in the days before reruns.

Posted by William E. Lurie @ 08/06/2003 03:31 PM PST

Various and sundried
foodstuffs are whatever
foodstuffs I happened to stuff
down my gaping gob. It's
whatever I stuff down my
gaping maw.

I'm thinking we might just
make 200 count them 200
posts today. That's what I'm
thinkin'. Isn't it interesting that
my post has never shown up?
It's lost in the ether or lost in
Boston or lost somewhere
over the rainbow? Has that
happened to anyone else
today? A post that's gone
totally missing?

Posted by bk @ 08/06/2003 03:33 PM PST

Dear Readers One and All: THANK YOU FOR THE NATAL DAY CELEBRATION!!!!! Notice, I didn't say "Naval" or even "Navel" day. . .

Well, I have washed, I have showered, I have shaved, I have Brut-ed myself into stupor! And why, you might ask: well, because it's really a party here at Haineshisway, isn't it!?!?!?

So, last night I watched the lovely, terrific little movie called THE HAUNTING on dvd. A fine example of how to use a widescreen efficiently and effectively. Then, I watched it again listening to the delightful Commentary Track from the major participants in the filming, quite a class act. Lois Maxwell, however, is not involved in the commentary, BUT Miss Julie Harris has quite a bit to say.

To reply to Jason's question, I'd have to go an alternate route for my life story songs:

MAD ABOUT THE BOY for starters
MY CHILDHOOD - Brel
AT SEVENTEEN - Janis Ian
BACHELOR BOY - Cliff Richard
I HEAR BELLS - Maltby & Shire
EXCITABLE BOY - Warren Zevon
BORN TO RUN - Bruce Springsteen

About Babs: I fell in love with that voice when I was seven or eight. I can listen to all of her albums up to and including BUTTERFLY, but, after that, it's a long row to hoe.
Where is her humor? Where is her warmth? Bring back the old Babs, and I'll listen once more. Although I will admit that "No More Tears (Enough is Enough)" is a classic, but why, "Tell Him" with Celine Dion? ? ? PUH-LEEZE!!!

And Bruce, the albums that you like are THE SECOND BARBRA STREISAND ALBUM and PEOPLE.

I'm partial to THE THIRD ALBUM and JE M'APPELLE BARBRA.

Posted by td @ 08/06/2003 03:33 PM PST

Sarah--thanks for the congrats! I'm the Greatest Star is one of my favorite songs ever. Don't you think that Sutton would make an absolutely magnifique Fanny?

And now, I bet that you the only 16-year old in Virginia who knows exactly what an 11 o' clock number is!

Laura--got the Jason Graae CD in the mail a few minutes ago, and plan on having a listen later tonight. Again, thank you (and Jason) so very, very much.

Posted by Maya @ 08/06/2003 03:33 PM PST

I recently got "Barbra Streisand and Other Musical Instruments" on CD.

It always seemed to be a bit off-the-wall to me, but I loved it for "I Never Has Seen Snow."

I do enjoy some of the weird orchestrations, etc., but it's a taste that needs reacquiring from listen to listen.

"Barbra Joan Streisand" may be my favorite of her albums.

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/06/2003 03:36 PM PST

"Geez, Joe! Is this the first time you realized they were missing?"

Posted by Sailor Billy @ 08/06/2003 03:37 PM PST

You're welcome, Maya. I'm sure you'll enjoy it.

My question for BK: at the end of said Jason Graae CD, there's a voice that says: "That was great, Jason. Really." Was that Guy Haines? Sure sounds like him.

Posted by Laura @ 08/06/2003 03:38 PM PST

DR TD

Happy Birthday!

and
Bonne Fete!
Joyeux Anniversaire!
Lá breithe mhaith agat!
Sun Yat Fai Lok!
Alles Gute zum Geburtstag!
Feliz Aniversario!

Posted by Michael Shayne @ 08/06/2003 03:42 PM PST

Overture: La Cage Aux Folles

11 O'Clock Number:Medey: I'm Just a Girl Who Can't Say No, I Never No Anything Twice, My Lord and Master

Bitschlap: All nasty flamers, knowitalls and people who think movies started with Star Wars and Phantom of the Opera

Posted by MDS @ 08/06/2003 03:49 PM PST

Yes, BK, I had a missing post earlier. I refreshed and it appeared like magic. Although I fear it only appeared on my computer on not on any of the other DRs as no one has responed to it.

Let us see if I can italicize? > italicize <

Let us see if I can bold b bold b

Posted by MBarnume @ 08/06/2003 03:53 PM PST

Finally caught up on postings from the last two days and was distress to read what happened to Juliana. I met her in NYC at the recording session and at dinner each night I was there. She is one of the sweetest, kindest persons I ever met in or out of show biz. I can't believe what that person started. What was his agenda! I have been reading her entries and the are a joy to read!

Posted by Michael Shayne @ 08/06/2003 03:53 PM PST

Maya - congrats on the job as English tutor.

Back to Babs and 11 o'clock numbers. When I saw her in Funny Girl (it was a Saturday matinee, but I guess you still call it an 11 o'clock number), she skipped Who Are You Now? (which I had been looking forward to). I later learned that that was her practice on matinee days. (She simply asked herself, "Who are you now?" - then carried on.) Personally, I would have had her drop The Music That Makes Me Dance. But then her 11 o'clock number would have been on the early side.

Posted by Dan-in-Toronto @ 08/06/2003 03:53 PM PST

Ok, that failed miserably. I must not be able to follow instructions very well.

Posted by MBarnum @ 08/06/2003 03:54 PM PST

Still catching up:

Overture: Promises, Promises

11 O'Clock Number: Where Am I Going?

I liked Jason's idea of songs that tell you're life story.

The first two songs from my Mother's perspective

The Story Goes On (Pronouns masde male)

Bar Mitzvah Stop Time

and I would have to start thinking about the others

Posted by Michael Shayne @ 08/06/2003 03:59 PM PST

Ok once again.

I think I understand now.

>b/bi< italics

Posted by MBarnum @ 08/06/2003 04:03 PM PST

Want to clarify my bitchslaps:

All nasty flamers, knowitalls and people who think movies started with Star Wars and Phantom of the Opera. On newsgroups like All That Chat, Rec.Art.Theater. Musical.

As for flamers I do not mean gay people. But people who post to incite people and say nasty things about other people they don't know.

Posted by MDS @ 08/06/2003 04:04 PM PST

Want to clarify my bitchslaps:

All nasty flamers, knowitalls and people who think movies started with Star Wars and Phantom of the Opera. On newsgroups like All That Chat, Rec.Art.Theater. Musical.

As for flamers I do not mean gay people. But people who post to incite people and say nasty things about other people they don't know.

Posted by MDS @ 08/06/2003 04:04 PM PST

Just thought some of you would like to know that Juliana posted her own response to the thread on BroadwayWorld.com, and did it with class and dignity.

I love this girl!

Posted by Dave @ 08/06/2003 04:04 PM PST

I guess I just wanted to make sure my clarification was understood.

Posted by MDS @ 08/06/2003 04:05 PM PST

Hmmmm, Bi-Italics..don't know what I have created!

Well, somehow my attempt at bolding actually made everything I wrote invisible and my attempts at italicizing created a word that has the best of both worlds.

Posted by MBarnum @ 08/06/2003 04:05 PM PST

Juliana and I discussed the
post, and we both thought it
was a fine idea. Her post was
swell, but I think you can see
that the sharks came out right
away and did their business.
They really are pathetic in my
opinion (IMO, in Internet lingo).
Anyone who has ever met
Juliana falls in love with her,
her energy, her sweetness
and most of all her realness. I
met her when I was lecturing
at Hamilton High School, and
she came up to me
afterwards and we had a nice
chat, then a week later I got a
sweet letter from her. I hired
her as soon as I possibly
could, for The Stephen
Sondheim Album.

That is NOT Guy Haines at the
end of Jason's album, it is ME.
I don't happen to think we
sound at all alike.

Posted by bk @ 08/06/2003 04:12 PM PST

Regarding 11 o'clock numbers
and "I want" songs and such,
WEL said, I know that
nobody teaches this kind of
stuff any more.

You'll be pleased to know that
in my Educational Curriculum
class, in which we had to
develop a comprehensive
instructional unit plan and
teach 5 lessons from that unit
to a group of 6 other students
in the class, my unit plan was
on the Anatomy of a Broadway
Musical, and this topic (with all
sorts of other song types, of
course) was the basis of an
early lesson, and referred to
frequently in the subsequent
lessons. I was amazed at
how well my group full of
business, history, and PE
teachers to be took to the
subject. At the end of the
quarter, the group named
mine the most interesting unit
of the class.

One of the choral teaching
jobs I've applied for also
includes a HS drama class,
and you be sure that this unit
will be included in that class if
I should get the job.

Posted by Jed @ 08/06/2003 04:16 PM PST

WEL: "Family Net" is the name of the cable station that shows "My Little Margie." It's a Southern Baptist (I think) station and most of the programming is religious in nature. But oddly enough, at 6 am on weekdays they show old TV shows that don't have a thing to do with religion. Monday is Annie Oakley Tuesday is Roy Rogers Wednesday is My Little Margie Thursday is I Married Joan and Friday is The Beverly Hillbillies. AT 4:30 they show MLM and IMJ again, along with (on other days) Corlsss Archer, The Lucy Show and Life with Elizabeth. Then at 5:00 is The Loretta Young Show!

Aren't you glad you asked?

Posted by Lulu @ 08/06/2003 04:25 PM PST

I counted ten responses to Juliana, and every one was very kind and gracious to her, including the one from FindingNamo himself.

Oh, sure, a few of them got off on some childish tangent when someone took a broad swipe at the members of the board, but I didn't read *any* negative comments directed at Juliana.

Posted by Dave @ 08/06/2003 04:25 PM PST

Dave, hate to disillusion you, but even I (who have never been to that board before) can tell that Finding Namo wrote a catty response to her. First of all, that "Bless Your Heart," as someone noted at the end of the page, is code for something pretty nasty and vile. Even without knowing that, you must realize that for him to say, "If I should happen to get a FREE TICKET to see TMM, I'll be sure to approach you afterwards" is a swipe and nothing but. I don't know any of the people involved and don't have any axe to grind, but it was apparent that he was being just as bitchy as he could possibly be in his response to Juliana (coated in sugary sweetness, of course).

Posted by Lulu @ 08/06/2003 04:30 PM PST

Thanks, Lulu. Over 200 stations but not that one. I'd trade all the un-needed stations in languages I don't speak for it.

I'm glad I was wrong about nobody teaching an 11:00 number or an "I Want" song. I'm glad some people are still teaching it, but I'm sure it is the exception rather than the norm. Of course when budgets are limited it's drama and music that go first (gotta keep the football team) but at least this kind of stuff is being taught someplace.

Posted by William E. Lurie @ 08/06/2003 04:34 PM PST

So how do you underline?

I never tried the two stars on each side to bold. Let's see. Is this bold?

I've always done the thing above the comma, and the thing above the period with i in the middle for italics and the same with a b for bold.

What is dippindots? Do they have them in canada?

Posted by Jennifer @ 08/06/2003 04:40 PM PST

I've tried to put off getting my big fat nose into this discussion but c'mon guys and gals... *sigh* really.

It's just some stupid guy with a computer. I like Julianna. I also like sushi. Some people don't like sushi and I accept that. I also accept that some people won't like Julianna. It's not the end of the world. Of course the fish does not have a personality that can be hurt by these insults - but then again, was Julianna really that upset with the comments or was it just Bruce who felt someone was undermining his site?

Julianna is a fabulous person from what I can tell. She also is a mature young woman who surely can take some criticism (mindless criticism nonetheless) from a source that no one would ever take seriously. Ever. The journal has made her a public figure. With publicity comes the inevitable downsides - people who know nothing about you who want to bring you down a step.

No matter how you cut it, the internet is a forum for voicing all sorts of opinions - including those that you might not agree with. It might also be a forum for opinions which you find downright offensive.

The only mature thing to do is ignore the stupid Namo person and call it a day.

My nose is now officially withdrawn from this topic.

Please everyone, just chillax. :)

Posted by Emily @ 08/06/2003 04:45 PM PST

Dave, it really must be
wonderful to live in your world.
The responses, not ONLY by
findingnamo but a couple
others within that thread, were
obnoxious. In the other thread,
they were worse than
obnoxious and who do you
think they were directed at? Or
is your implication that by
going in and defending her in
the way I did that I somehow
fanned the flame. These
people have been dissing her
and her journal long before I
ever took them to task -
starting on the old
broadway.com board (to which
I never responded). Then
those same few people came
to broadwayworld when
broadway.com shut down their
board. And they started their
same crap, only this time there
was someone who actually
had the guts or the decency to
take them on. Others have
joined in, as they should.

I just don't get it, Dave. It's so
obvious and in your face and
you just don't see it. Blow me
over with a waffle iron, baby.

Posted by bk @ 08/06/2003 04:45 PM PST

y'know Bruce, I think Dave and mine's "let it go" opinion must be a truly Canadian mindset.

We're used to getting picked on and know how to butt out to our full advantage :)

Posted by Emily @ 08/06/2003 04:47 PM PST

Emily: I am chillaxin', babycakes. But I just couldn't let it pass when Dave apparently didn't get that the Namoster's response was dripping with sarcasm and bitchery. Just wanted to set the record straight.

So you won't try the onion, eh? Well, I tried... ;)

Posted by Lulu @ 08/06/2003 04:49 PM PST

I'm trying to stay silent but I
can't. Emily, do you really think
my defending Juliana because
I perceive some idiot is
undermining my site? It has
NOTHING to do with my site, it
has to do with someone I care
about. I could give a flying
Wallenda about underming my
site - it would take a lot more
than that to undermine this
here site, and I don't give it a
moment's thought EVER.

Now I'll shut up, because I've
said my piece - people on the
Internet are NEVER held
accountable for what they
write, and it's high time they
should be. It's not just
"opinions" - one post with an
opinion is fine - continual
bashing is not fine, at least not
to me. I'm really never going to
change on this issue - never,
because it is not in my nature
to change and no matter how
hard we may try we cannot
change our natures.

Next topic.

Posted by bk @ 08/06/2003 04:50 PM PST

On a lighter note (C#) I'm
thinkin' we might just reach
two hundred posts today.
Anyone for three hundred?

Posted by bk @ 08/06/2003 04:51 PM PST

On a lighter note (C#) I'm
thinkin' we might just reach
two hundred posts today.
Anyone for three hundred?

Posted by bk @ 08/06/2003 04:52 PM PST

Actually Lulu, my ear is feeling slighty better. Maybe I'll try the onion if it gets worse. Or perhaps the ear candle (ew... BTW). Or maybe the two together. :)

And my comments were not directed at you in particular - just to everyone who's up in arms about the whole situation gone awry.

Why can't we all just get along? :)

Posted by Emily @ 08/06/2003 04:52 PM PST

But Emily, Dave DIDN'T "butt out." He's the one who posted a link here to Juliana's response, effectively starting the whole thread (which had died out) again; and when BK mentioned that Juliana did write an excellent letter, but he was sorry to see that a couple of people responded in a less-than-kind manner, Dave basically said that BK was either lying or flat-out wrong (even though there is evidence to the contrary). If that's an example of Canadian "butting out," I'd hate to see you folks when you get belligerent! :)

Posted by Lulu @ 08/06/2003 04:53 PM PST

WE all get along just fine, even
when opinions differ. WE are
not the problem. I, too, wish
everyone on other boards
could get along, but there are
people who live to be
obnoxious and who live to be
negative and who live to be
hurtful to others and on the
Internet they continually get
away with it. Not any more,
baby, at least not where ANY
dear reader or friend of mine
is concerned. I say to these
people in my best Arnold
Schwarzengger voice, "Hasta
la vista, baby."

Posted by bk @ 08/06/2003 04:56 PM PST

When we get belligerent Lulu, you'll know it. Do you know how hard it is to get the remains of maple syrup bombardments out of your clothes? :)

I give in. BK, you have great potential in the personal security business :)

Either that or you can take over Ahnold's Terminator role. :)

Posted by Emily @ 08/06/2003 05:03 PM PST

Oh, goody, I shall be leaving
work shortly to head home,
where I shall eat some supper
and watch a DVD. Isn't that
exciting? Isn't that just too
too? Isn't that just two two?
Isn't that just tu-tu? Or, as the
locals like to say, Et tu, Bruce.
Yes, Virginia, I kid you not, that
is what the locals like to say.
Do you know that when one of
my neighbors is given an
anastheic they are getting a
local anasthetic? It's true, it's
true, and no one can say
otherwise.

Posted by bk @ 08/06/2003 05:03 PM PST

BK? did you call me "baby"?

now it's my time to be offended! jk :)

Posted by Emily @ 08/06/2003 05:04 PM PST

An easy way (at least I think it's easy) to remember the punctuation symbols is (I'm doing this with our great mathematician Mr. William F. Orr in mind) the carat above the comma is the "less than" symbol and the carat over the period is the "greater than" symbol. I don't know how to underline and Mr. TCB is keepin' that knowledge to himself :-) but to replay the whole thing again (that is if you don't want to use the much simpler method of two asterisks before the word and two after)

Before the word (or words) you want to appear in bold place the "less than" carat then a b, upper or lower case it doesn't matter, then type the "greater than" carat. This turns the bold command on. Type the word or sentence and then type the "less than" carat again then type a slash AKA a virgule(the one under the question mark) then type a b again and finally type the "greater than" carat. This turns the bold command off. To italicize, replace the b with an i. As WEL said, remember to preview your post to make sure it works and to make sure that you've turned it off properly. If you don't turn it off properly, your whole post from that point will be ital or bold.

To bold and italicize at the same time simply put the first code within the carats, then the second code in carats right after the first (no spaces) type your missive and then type the codes again with the slashes to turn it off.

Posted by Ben @ 08/06/2003 05:05 PM PST

Success!

wow... that was darn complicated

Posted by Emily @ 08/06/2003 05:09 PM PST

Wow, while I was typing all that we officially hit over 200 posts and it's only 8:10pm EST!

Posted by Ben @ 08/06/2003 05:09 PM PST

Many thanks to Tom from Oz

>II<

I'm trying to learn this whole emboldening, italicizatory thing for future reference.

I was just curious - did Jason put a moratorium on inviting anyone to see TITANIC and/or PIMPERNEL? I think that'd be a hoot n' holler as we used to say back in Kansas. We're not far out of the city, and if you aren't driving it's a cheap bus or train. The Poconos are lovely unless you're bored out of your skull as I am right now waiting for a show to reopen. If anyone's interested, let either Jason or I know.

Posted by Don @ 08/06/2003 05:21 PM PST

LOL, Emily (maple syrup bombardment).

BK's old friend Diana Canova is on Fantasy Island as I type this. Neat!

Posted by Lulu @ 08/06/2003 05:22 PM PST

Speaking of Arnold, the next governor of California has just announced at the taping of The Tonight Show that he WILL indeed be running for Governor: Governor Schwarzenegger

Posted by Mr. Mark Bakalor @ 08/06/2003 05:34 PM PST

Hello all you lovelies !

So many questions flitting and hurling through the ether today..a veritable plethora... a harbinger of "things to come" (Sir Arthur Bliss) as the crepuscular sky approches!

DR Jason (with your cute-as-hell smile and your sweet heart!), -- I think my Overture would be Gypsy also, and my big 11 O'clock would be "Look Over There" from La Cage.

DR Hapgood (you feisty minx you!!) -- Last show I saw was Gypsy....that particular night, it was way above what I was expecting (or braced for). Ms. P was not holding real long sustained notes, but the singing was very accurate, strong dynamics, and she filled the part of Rose with lots of emotional range.

DR Lulu -- I loved your My Little Margie reference; while in NYC, Kerry and I went twice to the Museum of Television and Broadcasting, and my, what wonderful memories and things to watch. I saw a "Margie" 'cause I loved them when I was little...those people lived so elegantly to me ! :) I saw a poignant and touch young Susan Gordon get to walk on the beach with Mr. Fred Astaire in a Chesterfield Playhouse show. I watched a dewy-faced and adorable young BK (such a cheyne punim !!) grapple with what to do about the draft on a Young Lawyers show. And, I got to watch a full 30 minute episode from 1968 (the great era, IMO) of "General Hospital" with my friend playing the musical accompaniment. It had creepy Phil on ( I couldn't find the actor's name) who asked me a very rude joke/question in the hallway oneday at ABC. I guess I would bitch-slap creepy Phil.

Anyway, the TV Museum was just one of many many wonderful moments during last week. A highpoint? Getting to watch Kerry's face as Liza M. sang an unexpected and a capella version of "This Could Be My Shinig Hour" about 4 feet in front of him at a little cabaret room. I thanked her afterwards, told her what our trip was for, and she gave me a little kiss on the cheek and congratulated us, all the while looking kind of forlorn underneath. It was very touching!

Fie on me ! ... I must hie away, and cease this ramble.

Posted by MusicGuy @ 08/06/2003 05:36 PM PST

Thanks, Dan, for the congrats on my new job! $10 an hour...life is good.

Well, at least Ah-nold is a moderate Republican. I suppose if a B movie actor who co-starred with a chimp can become President and if a wrestler can become a governor, a Mr. Universe turned action superstar can too. Such is democracy!

Posted by Maya @ 08/06/2003 05:41 PM PST

And yet, I forget myself...and 2 questions as well.

For DR WEL -- I know that we chatted about your candy company job, but I forgot to ask about what Ray did for a "9 to 5" kind of thing?

DR Jason, and all you others -- quit talking about all those ice cream dots, or whatever they are...I feel an ice cream attack coming on. I'm afraid I'll give in..oh be strong !!

And even though I wrote this very late last night, I'd like to reprint it here, because it has a challenge with a fabulous prize possible! Here it is:...

DR Kerry and I just got home a short while ago, and I am about to fall over from a long day of travel. But I wanted to answer the Question of the Day, and also pose a little challenge.

My favorite "made-for-TV" movie has to be a Hallmark Production titled "The Lost Child" because DR Kerry and I are in it, and part of it was filmed at our house.

The challenge ? Well, lunch, my treat, at Musso & Frank to the first DR who can point out Kerry and I in the film.

These Hallmark movies are really quite well photographed and produced......they usually were on CBS on Sunday evenings.

Posted by MusicGuy @ 08/06/2003 05:44 PM PST

DRs Kerry and MusicGuy. So pleased your trip to NYC was so successful.
Arnie's possible new job even made the morning news broadcasts in Australia. such an event even gets Mark B to post!

Punctuation, symbols whatever. Not worth the trouble for some of us at an advanced age - unless it is the all important ç for that guy who returns to HHW in about 18 hours. It is that time of the week again. DR Allan from the UK has found Groundhog Day Mark II. Hope he can find his way back to real time soon.
This is still the only site I read. I think I know why. I'll stick with friends.

Posted by Tom from Oz @ 08/06/2003 06:02 PM PST

MusicGuy: WOW, you got to see Bruce on The Young Lawyers, I'm so jealous. And YES, I agree, Phil from GH is CREEPY. :) Roy Thinnes (iirc) is the actor's name. I never understood what Nurse Jessie saw in him (disclaimer: I've really only seen a couple of segments of this era of GH on some episodes of Mystery Science Theater 3000).

WEL: Which shows of the ones that are showing on Family Net would you most like to see?

Posted by Lulu @ 08/06/2003 06:07 PM PST

Hey, everyone...the photos from the tour of TMM are up now! Here's the link...I can definitely spot Juliana in the chorus...she looks lovely.

http://www.modernmillietour.com/productionphotos.php#

Posted by Maya @ 08/06/2003 06:10 PM PST

I can't believe Ah-nuld is actually running. For awhile there, it seemed highly doubtful. You see, Arnie apparently has several cemeteries' worth of skeletons in his closet (most of said skeletons having to do with Roman Hands and Russian Fingers). Well, I guess he figured that we've had at least one world-class philanderer in the Oval Office within the last 10 years, so what the hey...may as well give the governorship of CA a shot, eh? :)

Posted by Lulu @ 08/06/2003 06:10 PM PST

I don't know if I could bear to watch The Young Lawyers episode. My first professional television job - I haven't seen one frame of it since it aired in January of 1971

Posted by bk @ 08/06/2003 06:31 PM PST

Dear innocent and draft-confused BK --

It was a charming episode, at least your part...and that little confused face !! I just wanted to do a Grandma Gelfinbaum on those cheeks. But there was a willowy, older woman circulating around you while you were on the phone with the radio talk-show....she was dressed very provacatively, and I don't think I liked her around you one bit! No sir!

DR Lulu -- The episode that I saw, was from a time when Roy Thinnes wasn't playing Phil; I think he had started to go on to a bigger sci-fi thing or something. I'll find out the name of the actor that did "creepy Phil" in one of Kerry's reference books.

Posted by MusicGuy @ 08/06/2003 06:40 PM PST

DR Maya: I actually am not 16 yet, but I will be on the 31st! Only 3-ish more weeks! Sweet Sixteen :)

My incredibly stupid computer is having majorama connection issues and it's driving me crazy!!!!

The Tour Pics are awesome!

Posted by Sarah @ 08/06/2003 06:45 PM PST

Question for anyone:

Did anyone buy the DVD of Wait Until Dark? On the DVD and on the box it says its letterbox, but when I play it on my TV its not but when I watch it on my computer it is. I am so confused. It was shot in the 1.85 : 1 ratio. Does that make a difference?

Posted by Michael Shayne @ 08/06/2003 06:49 PM PST

Now wait just one cotton-pickin' minute!

WHAT ugly connotations have been attached to "Bless Your Heart"?

That's a fine old Southern phrase and if some danged bastards have fouled it up with evil associations, then I'm gonna git a shotgun and start aimin' for the varmints!

Dagnab it!

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/06/2003 06:52 PM PST

Quick answers before we eat...

MUSIC GUY - Ray works for a firm that takes care of plants in offices. Part of the time he goes to clients and makes sure their plants are okay and part of the time he works in their office making sales calls. His main job is making me happy. By the way, we love your CD.

Lulu - I think LIFE WITH ELIZABETH... that's the one with Betty White and the harp, isn't it? I do have access to some episodes of Margie.

Ben - Do you know how to underline? I can bold and italacize, but I'd like to know the secret of underlining. The carets with U don't work. Thanks.

Posted by William E. Lurie @ 08/06/2003 06:52 PM PST

Oh! DR Michael....did you flip the DVD over? Warners likes to put both versions on one disc...letterbox on one side and pan/scan on the other.

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/06/2003 06:53 PM PST

DRs MusicGuy and Kerry: I'm so glad you made it to the King Kong Room. My buddy, Ken, was there doing his cable access show and he told me on Tues. that Liza was there and I so hoped that you guys were there. How exciting!! Oh! I have a scanner now, so I'll send you some "new" pictures.

Dear Reader Laura surprised me today with copies of Jason Graae's CDs, which I didn't yet have, and I am thoroughly enjoying them. BK--how would I get in touch with Jason or his pianist about getting a copy of "Something That I Wanted You to Know?" Its a lovely song, and I think it would be great for my voice, so...how can I get it?

Posted by Jason @ 08/06/2003 07:01 PM PST

WEL, no I don't know how to underline. I've been trying code myself but haven't found the right combo. I know it's just HTML coding but I don't know the right one for underlining. I'll keep trying and let you know if I come up with it, that is if Mr. TCB doesn't let us know how to do it himself ;-)

Posted by Ben @ 08/06/2003 07:02 PM PST

Some more songs

High School: School Days (From the musical film Goodbye Mr. Chips) (I went a private boarding school)

CEGEP (Pre-University) (Quebecers will now what I am talking about) Fame

University BFA: I Hope I Get It

Trip to Europe: What Do We Do? We Fly!

Show Biz Career Part 1: There's No Business Like Show Business

More to come

Posted by Michael Shayne @ 08/06/2003 07:03 PM PST

Yes, DR Kerry & Lyn, I'm glad you got there too, with or without my recommendation. I hope you got my message on your hotel room phone also.

Posted by Ben @ 08/06/2003 07:04 PM PST

DR Ron:

I thought of that, but there is art work on one side and the film on the other

Posted by Michael Shayne @ 08/06/2003 07:05 PM PST

Oh, DR Ron Pulliam: In certain parts of the south, depending on intonation, "bless your heart" is most certainly a condescending phrase.

"Oh, your mother's a Jew? Well, bless your heart..."

And "aren't you sweet" is another one.

"Oh! You baked me a fruitcake? Well, aren't you sweet?"

And then there's the combination, which is the slickest dig of them all...

"You made me some Matzo ball soup? Well, aren't you sweet? Bless your heart!"

Posted by Jason @ 08/06/2003 07:06 PM PST

DR Michael: I only just got back in the door from purchasing WAIT UNTIL DARK on dvd, and my copy is indeed anamorphically encoded in a glorious 1.85:1 aspect ratio. Sure looks sweet on my teevee. . .
You might have to check both the settings of you dvd player and of your television set to make sure that they are both configured to the 16:9 enhanced mode. Your television (if it is HDTV) should only have a very teeny tiny band of black at the top and the bottom of the picture.
Email, or call me, if you have any *geek*-like questions I can help to answer.

Posted by td @ 08/06/2003 07:09 PM PST

DR Jason: Well sure, condescending...but NEVER evil.

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/06/2003 07:31 PM PST

BK

Is the Duel on DVD the TV version or the European version?

Posted by Michael Shayne @ 08/06/2003 07:31 PM PST

This is supposed to *italicize* like this makes things bold.

And putting an underscore symbol in front of and behind word(s) you want _underlined_ is supposed to do the trick.

I'm guessing we need Mr. Mark Bakalor to help us out, though.

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/06/2003 07:34 PM PST

Michael - what CEGEP did you go to?

I have only fond memories of Marianopolis' Liberal Arts program :)

Posted by Emily the Marianopolis-ite @ 08/06/2003 07:41 PM PST

Duel is the European theatrical version running 89 minutes.

Wait Until Dark should be letterboxed if you have a "flat" TV (i.e. normal-sized rather than widescreen). You may have to go into your player's settings to select "letterbox".

Posted by bk @ 08/06/2003 07:42 PM PST

Jason, on behalf of fruitcake lovers everywhere, I am insulted.

Bless YOUR heart. jk :)

Posted by Emily @ 08/06/2003 07:42 PM PST

Dawson College is the CEGEP I went to went it was all over the city.

Posted by Michael Shayne @ 08/06/2003 07:51 PM PST

Thanks TD and BK for the help regarding Wait Until Dark. I wasn't experiencing problems with the other films. But then probably didn't realize that I was not experiencing the proper dimensions.

Posted by Michael Shayne @ 08/06/2003 08:12 PM PST

I think we could make 200! Come on fellow dear readers, think of an incredibly interesting topic.....I sadly cannot...

Aha. What is your most embarassing moment?

Posted by Sarah @ 08/06/2003 08:32 PM PST

Emily and Michael:
I went to John Abbott College. So we have almost all the cegeps in Montreal covered.

Posted by Jennifer @ 08/06/2003 08:35 PM PST

Wow, I return from a rehearsal and
find an incredible amount of posts!
I don't know if I can remember any
day that it got this high. Even if the
duplicates are removed, this is
something to say.
Arnold is running for governor. Oy.
Well, hopefully he won't do as much
harm as that last bad actor turned
governor of California, a certain
piece of scum named Reagan.
I hope that the new methods of
bolding and italicizing will
eork without causing the trouble we
had one time with tags being left
open, and large stretches of posting
left in bold/italic.

Well, I must say that after coming
from a stressful rehearsal (and there
are no un-stressful rehearsals from
now on) it is wonderful to know that
there is always love at
haineshisway.com!

Posted by Hapgood @ 08/06/2003 08:40 PM PST

My apologies dear readers. I came home from work and fell asleep without remembering to tell you all how to underline. The secret is two(2) _ underscores on each end. The result is underscored words

Again, my apologies.

Posted by TCB @ 08/06/2003 08:54 PM PST

So, now that I have answered that burning question, would someone tell me if there is an easy way to know what post we are on without counting backwards from the end?

Posted by TCB @ 08/06/2003 08:56 PM PST

Lulu,

I visited the Broadwayworld.com message board at BK's urging. That is how I came to read Juliana's message. I mentioned it here because I was very proud of her, and thought the rest of the DRs would be, too.

Like you, I have never visited that site before, either, so I was unaware of any negative connotations to an otherwise lovely expression like "Bless your heart". In my defense, FindingNamo appears to deny that he intended that meaning in a later post in that thread.

But as I have said before, I'm inclined to give people the benefit of the doubt. When I read FindingNamo's reply to Juliana, I must have missed the word "free", but now that you've pointed it out to me, I re-read the post. Another possible interpretation? Not everyone can afford the high price of theatre tickets (myself included), and often rely on comps and ushering to catch the touring productions we want to see. Is it possible that FindingNamo fits that description? Before you answer, note that I asked if it is *possible*. If so, why not err on the side of the innocent?

And BK, I re-read all of the posts on the thread, and I can find none that are obnoxious toward Juliana. Some in-fighting and bickering amongst themselves, as always happens on these boards, but no one directed any of their negative comments toward Juliana.

FindingNamo directed some less-than-charitable comments toward BK, and maybe that is what he is referring to when he says 'obnoxious'. Fair enough.

But Lulu, I must object to the notion that I said BK was 'lying' about the content of the thread. I pointed out that the negative posts were not directed at Juliana, which I still contend is true. If I am wrong, I am sure someone will post evidence to the contrary.

I think Emily has posted the most reasonable response to this whole issue yet. Some guy behind a computer, afraid to even use his real name, spews forth some bile to get a reaction. But we get to choose what that reaction will be. Sometimes the best response is no response at all...

Posted by Dave @ 08/06/2003 09:05 PM PST

TCB, if you want to know how many posts there ARE, just look at the handy counter-thing at the top. If you want to know what number YOUR post was, I haven't got a clue, so sorry.

Posted by Sarah @ 08/06/2003 09:06 PM PST

So, you mean that I can say "Bless your heart" to someone and they won't know that I'm saying something unseemly to them? Hmmmm. I think I might be able to use that one quite a bit in traffic.

Posted by Laura @ 08/06/2003 09:36 PM PST

Not if you use your middle finger at the same time, Laura,

Posted by TCB @ 08/06/2003 09:49 PM PST

Lulu: I stand reproved re:MY LITTLE MARGIE comment. I will have my sense of irony checked immediately.

Please watch for the one where she is a model with Mr Ed Fury! And the one where Mrs. Odets gets several speeding tickets in her Nash! And the one where Freddy has to join in a professional wrestling match!

OH and watch for the I MARRIED JOAN that has Joan trying to get rid of moose head, and the one where she gets her arm caught in a mannequin's leg. I can't describe it....what a whirl, what a girl, what a wife! The Robert Shaw Chorale

DAVE DAVE DAVE - Now that you mention it, "Santa Fe" from Newsies is a poignant and lovely "want" song... Thanks, now I will have to get out that CD!

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/06/2003 09:59 PM PST

If you are awake TCB it must indeed be time to read your mail! Maybe even answer it. OK I have a sad life and wait for emails (if I can't be doing what I'd rather doing of course! Maybe tomorrow).
Am about to mail - the snail variety - to catch today's post.

Posted by Tom from Oz @ 08/06/2003 10:06 PM PST

DR Laura --

I was a good boy in NYC, and brought back a little bundle of things from our fabled hotel for the ever-glamorous DR Sandra. It is just the stuff that I could slip into a pocket of my suitcase.....although there really were some nice draperies that I wish i could have brought you.
Also, DR Susan asked to be remembered to you. She was a joy to meet, and very fun and interesting to visit with.

If any of you dear readers want to hear something bizarrely funny, try to get DR Ben to relate the story of how when sometime-dear reader Anthony is working as Baxter the Clown, some people will try to come on to him!! I guess I am sheltered out here in the desert; for all I know, there may be "Clown Bars" where these people lurk and hang out. How unseemly, making lewd advances to Baxter.....he is so sweet!

Posted by MusicGuy @ 08/06/2003 10:09 PM PST

Too late, Tom from Oz - I just sent an e-mail.

(Damn I'm good)

Posted by TCB @ 08/06/2003 10:12 PM PST

DR Jrand -- Don't tell me that you too were addicted to "My Little Margie" and "I Married Joan?" I watched them religiously, every afternoon, along with The Ann Sothern Show. At the TV Museum in Manhattan, I watched both "Margie" and "Ann Sothern".

I have a great "search" question for any dear readers who could help possibly, or possibly help. The Theme music to My Little Margie is wonderful.. and instrumental in the best tradition of Leroy Anderson in this country or Richard Hanmer (sp?) in England. I don't hold much hope of getting a sheet music copy, but if I could get a cassette recording of the whole theme, I am a pretty good transcriber and I could write it out. I'm thinking of including a whole section of _early_ TV themes for a future CD. I still know "I married Joan"...every note of it, and all the words.

Posted by MusicGuy @ 08/06/2003 10:18 PM PST

If their snipe at me had bothered me in the least DAVE, I would have responded to it, which I did not. You do not see a post from me, do you? No, you do not. Had you bothered to read the ORIGINAL THREAD about Juliana's Journal you would have known EXACTLY where findingnamo was coming from, along with the other two or three ninnies like Al Dente. Yes, you are comletely misreading the tone of findingnamo's post, but no it is not possible that all of us have somehow missed the warmth and love contained in his post. Sorry Dave, but there you are. Read the original thread, the one in which I took part and the one I suggested people read. If you don't get it after that, there is no helping you understand. And you will see that findingnamo's last thrashing of me (isn't it funny that these twits are perfectly within their rights to thrash away, but somehow I am a bad boy when I give them a little of their own medicine - yes, funny that) - his last obnoxious bit went unanswered by me because it did not involve Juliana or my site.

Posted by bk @ 08/06/2003 10:19 PM PST

Hokay, I spend a day being a good citizen doing jury duty, followed by being a good member of my community by going to a meeting at my synagogue, and come home to find that you all decided to have a day with a record number of posts without me. Jiggy I am, jiggy I say.

And such variety of posts! Dripping hot wax on an unsuspecting minor, extended lessons in typography, tirades on sexual labels, even raising Lehman Engel from the dead like he was Lazarus. Wowsers.

Re Babs: I agree with all the comments from way earlier today. For those who are unfamiliar with her earlier work, I highly recommend the four disc "Just for the Record" set. Sounds like a big commitment, I know, but it allows you to appreciate the arc of Ms. Streisand's career. Although many of the cuts come from her studio and live albums, there is tons of unusual material that had not been released until this set hit the market. The first two disks are devoted to the '60s, and for those who never heard Babs when she had a sense of humor, you will be surprised. My gosh, she even giggles--giggles, I tell you--at one point during an extended set from her nightclub act recorded live at the Bon Soir in Greenwich Village. (Can any of you imagine Mrs. Streisand Gould Brolin giggling today? I didn't think so.) One disk covers the '70s and another the '80s. If you don't have it, check it out.

Posted by Jay @ 08/06/2003 10:28 PM PST

DR Jay -- Yes, the very early Barbara was humorous, charming, and incredibly talented. I was lucky enough to see her do her nightclub act in L.A. at the Coconut Grove in the Ambassador Hotel on Wilshire Blvd. Back then it was still a very swank room, and she was marvelous in that setting.

Are you an L.A. boy Jay? If so, which part of the great sprawl do you live in? Also, what do you do there for a living, and are you old enough to remember the Coconut Grove??

Enquiring minds, and all that.

Posted by MusicGuy @ 08/06/2003 10:45 PM PST

Come on, Gang! We can break 300!

We've done it before! Remember the day of the Oscars?

Jennifer: BB4 just got very interesting -- I don't think Justin is stupid enough to believe that Robert and Jee are all he needs to succeed in this game. What will he do? What will he do?

Alison is sure she's safe. Jun is grinning from ear to ear.

If they don't do something soon to shake things up in the house, I'm going to stop watching.

Thanks, TCB! I appreciate the underlining tip!

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/06/2003 11:18 PM PST

Aughghghghghghghghghgh!

Posted by Charlie Brown @ 08/06/2003 11:21 PM PST

Jesus, Mary's Joseph! Look at the number of posts!

Before any of you attack me for the misuse of the phrase "Jesus, Mary and Joseph," let me explain. There is a line in TITANIC where Mr. Hinches, who is at the helm, sees the iceberg coming up and says, "Jesus, Mary and Joseph...look at the size of it!" Well, we had one "actor" assigned to the role who is apparently unable to repeat lines as they're written, for he screamed out, "Jesus, Mary's Joseph!" and the entire company had to take a break so that we could regain our composure. The same evening, he had another line that read, "It certainly won't be her last [trip to France]." He delivered the following line: "It certain won't be her last, Mrs.....Straus," and the boy had the script in front of him! Th Hichens role was taken away from him, as were any lines that he had in the rest of the show as Mr. Astor, although he still had to sing "Una bella vita en Estati Uniti" during "Lady's Maid." Quelle disastre THAT turned out to be!

Posted by Jason @ 08/06/2003 11:39 PM PST

My goodness! How could one
not be incredibly jiggy with
today's posts? Sure, we've
had good numbers in the past,
but have we ever had a day of
these numbers with such
content? I think not.
Well done, one and all, all and
one.

Posted by Jed @ 08/06/2003 11:40 PM PST

Tonight I took my niece (she actually paid for the tickets) to a Seattle Storm women's basketball game. The played the Sparks (I think, it's some California team) and they (the Sparks) are ranked number 1. The Storm beat the Sparks 92-56! A 36 point lead! I thought that that was pretty cool (even if I'm not a basketball fan) but it was nothing compared to checking in to HHW and seeing 260+ posts! I don't think it's ever been that high since I started coming here regularly. I haven't read anything after about 2:30 this afternoon, but will now. I just wanted to add another post the (possible) record breaking amount of posts!

Posted by George @ 08/06/2003 11:59 PM PST

And now that it the same day as it is Australia, you need to know that Stan Freberg is 77 today. (Elderly Man River is my favourite Freberg track). I think it is Lana Cantrell's birthday too - is she remembered in the USA?

Posted by Tom from Oz @ 08/07/2003 12:13 AM PST

Okay, here goes: Happy (belated) birthday to TD!

Mandy Patinkin and Barbra Streisand are really the only two performers that I used to love, but now don't. I still like them, but don't love them as before.

Ben, re: your post @ 08/06/2003 11:55 AM PST: Thanks! My sentiments exactly!

My overture would probably be "Merrily We Roll Along." I just love that one...or maybe one created from the melodies of "Sunday In the Park With George" since it doesn't have an overture. My 11:00 number? That's harder. I'll have to think about it some more.

My favorite "I Want" song is the Menken/Schwartz "Out There" from The Hunchback of Notre Dame. (Yea! It worked!) I saw that movie when it first came out and that song just touched me in different ways and on different levels. I have been fortunate enough to be able to perform that song a couple of time and it is one of my absolute favorite songs.

Posted by George @ 08/07/2003 01:13 AM PST

The reason that the tiny, little bridge of "As If We Never Said Goodbye" is the same as "Half a Moment" is because ALW started to write a version of Aspects of Love in the early 1980s for Sarah (long before The Phantom of the Opera) with lyrics by Tim Rice. That fell through and Trevor Nunn was brought in to write lyrics. 14 songs were written and even one was recorded: a song called "Married Man" (no relation to anything in Tell Me On a Sunday) but it was never released. It was about a woman in love with a married man who leaves his wife for this woman...more about this song in a moment. Another song from the Tim Rice version, "I Don't Talk To Strangers," was recorded by Placido Domingo (in 1983, I have the CD). Anyway, when the whole project was abandoned, most of the music for that version of Aspects was used for the version of _Phantom__ that now exists. Hence the reusing of the tiny, little bridge.

Posted by George @ 08/07/2003 01:45 AM PST

oops: Phantom not _Phantom__

Posted by George @ 08/07/2003 01:47 AM PST

About the two previously mentioned songs (and to pad tonight's count a little bit--like it really needs it). The first part of "I Don't Talk To Strangers" became "All I Ask of You" (the second half of the melody was rewritten for Phantom):

I don't talk to strangers
It seems a waste of time
To hear someone you don't know
Recall a life you won't know

became:

No more talk of darkness
Forget these wide-eyed fears
I'm here; nothing can harm you
My words will warm and calm you
Etc…

Now about "Married Man." Sometime in the early 1980s, Sarah and Andy were on the Merv Griffin Show (I loved that show) and performed a song. I had a little audio tape recorder that I stuck in front of the TV speaker and recorded this song. I had no idea what the song was from, who wrote it or anything and couldn't remember if they had ever said what the title was (I always called it "Young Enough To Fall In Love Again"). It turns out that it was that song from the early version of Aspects that didn't happen. I had been listening to this song for several years by the time I got my London cast album to the very new show The Phantom of the Opera and heard Michael Crawford singing:

Night-time sharpens, heightens each sensation,
Darkness stirs and wakes imagination
Silently the senses abandon their defenses...
(and the first verse doesn't finish)

I was LMAO because for years I had been listening to Sarah Brightman very sweetly singing:

Dreams of summer, secret smiles between us
Our first meeting, you'd thought they had seen us
We both tried explaining, then it started raining
(and this verse finishes like the rest in the song)
Then you said "I love you, girl" but then
I'm much too old to fall in love again.

The whole song was exactly the same as "The Music of the Night" except that the first verse was complete. I still have that tape of Sarah Brightman singing with Andrew Lloyd Webber playing the piano and Merv Griffin at the very end saying "Good!" as the applause fades. That is the end of my very long story.

Posted by George @ 08/07/2003 02:14 AM PST

underscore

Posted by Testing 1, 2, 3 @ 08/07/2003 02:25 AM PST

I am so tired. I do this every time I have an assignment. I put it off until the night before, and then I stay up too late trying to finish it. I was supposed to have this speech written already. My group presents tomorrow and no one is ready. My group members are: feng-shui girl, the very gay boy, the girl who sighs a lot, and the girl with no discernible personality trait. This presentation is not going to go well at all, but at least tomorrow is the last day. WOO HOO!!

Posted by Sandra @ 08/07/2003 02:28 AM PST

After reading my previous (very long) posts, I just realized that ALW starting to write a version of Aspects of Love in the early 1980s for Sarah (long before The Phantom of the Opera) with lyrics by Tim Rice is NOT the reason that the tiny, little bridge of "As If We Never Said Goodbye" is the same as "Half a Moment." The Phantom of the Opera and Aspects of Love have absolutely nothing to do with neither Sunset Boulevard nor By Jeeves. Talk about digressing. I'm a goon. Just think of this as a long-winded example of how ALW reuses material. It wasn't the first time nor was it the last time.

Posted by George @ 08/07/2003 02:34 AM PST

Post number 272 (unless someone sneaks in while I type). Wow, so close to 300 and such a range of posts. How exciting!

Thanks TCB for the info on underscoring. I notice so many enhanced posts this morning.

Posted by Ben @ 08/07/2003 04:25 AM PST

Music Guy the theme song for My Little Margie is found on the cd Television's Greatest Hits Volume Four, Black and White

Click on my name for a link.

I Married Joan is found on Volume 2.

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/07/2003 05:19 AM PST

Music Guy - If you don't want to buy those CD's, I think I have them.

Email me and I will make a cassette copy. No CD burner, for some reason mine doesn't work...but I can make a cassette. remember those?

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/07/2003 05:22 AM PST

I Married Joan - How many times did I watch it before it dawned that the the theme echoes the doorbell? Verbally and physically, Joan Davis was brilliant. How sad that she died so young.

And happy birthday Stan Freberg. Yes ... Elderly Man River. And Saint George and the Dragonet. Hadn't thought of those in years!

Posted by Dan-in-Toronto @ 08/07/2003 05:38 AM PST

Composers stealing from themselves is not so very bad: that music that leads into Anyone Can Whistle was, previously, in 3/4 time, music that led into Your Eyes Are Blue, a Joel Grey song cut from Forum. Cole Porter recycled the cut bridge from We Shall Never Be Younger (Kiss Me Kate) for the wonderful No Lover from Out of This World. He also rewrote Don't Look At Me That Way into the slow part of Let's Not Talk About Love.

The thing that strikes me about these Lloyd Webber songs was that the original lyrics were so much better than the ones we know.

Posted by Noel @ 08/07/2003 05:43 AM PST

Stan Freberg..... what a funny guy! John and Marsha.

All those comedies Joan made for Republic seem to have disappeared. And her daughter - who played her sister in the series - died very young and tragically as well. Beverly was a stitch in SOME LIKE IT HOT as one of Sweet Sue's musicians.

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/07/2003 06:04 AM PST

Good Morning, Dear Readers! Wow, what a lot of posts. How incredibly delightful.

Posted by Sarah @ 08/07/2003 06:08 AM PST

Hopefully the Wednesday notes will remain the current notes long enough to reach the magic 300.

If you are a Stan Freeburg fan (and who isn't?) you owe it to yourself to splurge on the 4CD/1VHS set Rhino released about four years ago. The CDs feature every one of his hits (including "Ohama", Freeburg's spoof on Original Cast Albums), large segments from "History of the World" and a lot of other stuff. The VHS is a sampling of his great commercials including the classic Ann Miller Great American Soup ad.

Posted by William E. Lurie @ 08/07/2003 06:21 AM PST

I'll add one to make it 280 and 20 more to 300. Good morning all. I'm now working on the Shubert Foundation 2002 grants list. The Shubert Foundation is one of a handful dedicated to performing arts with an emphasis on theatre and general support for theatre companies. Hooray for them!

Posted by Ben @ 08/07/2003 06:36 AM PST

BK writes:

"Had you bothered to read the ORIGINAL THREAD about Juliana's Journal you would have known EXACTLY where findingnamo was coming from..."

Yes, Bruce, I am aware of the tone of that thread, but we weren't talking about that thread. Once again, you're putting words in my mouth. I referred specifically to the responses to Juliana herself, which I still contend were gracious.

"Yes, you are comletely misreading the tone of findingnamo's post, but no it is not possible that all of us have somehow missed the warmth and love contained in his post."

Really? It isn't even possible? You're absolutely sure of that? How awful it must be to live a life where no one deserves the benefit of the doubt. After I re-read the post again, I actually thought he might be sucking up for a free ticket to the show.

"(isn't it funny that these twits are perfectly within their rights to thrash away, but somehow I am a bad boy when I give them a little of their own medicine - yes, funny that)"

This is where you missed the point, Bruce. NO, it isn't right when the others post such nonsense. (That's why you objected, remember?) So it isn't any more right when you stoop to their level.

"his last obnoxious bit went unanswered by me because it did not involve Juliana or my site."

...which is exactly what I said in my original post. The negativity from some of the posters in the second thread was not directed at Juliana. At least we can agree on that.

Maybe we can view this as a case study in how to respond to such nonsense on the other message boards.

a) We can ignore them altogether. We've already discussed the pros and cons of that approach.

b) We can respond the way BK did.

c) We can respond the way Juliana did.

Read for yourselves the responses to BK and those to Juliana, and decide for yourselves which approach you would rather take.

Posted by Dave @ 08/07/2003 06:48 AM PST

And I'll get the Scotland afore ya!

Posted by Nessie @ 08/07/2003 06:51 AM PST

To Scotland, that is.

Posted by Nessie @ 08/07/2003 06:51 AM PST

Okay, just to try to get to 300 posts:

For anyone who doubts that Babs did indeed once have a sense of humor (about herself as well) find the Live "HELLO, DOLLY!" Medley (which is very rare). Since it's never been released on audio in any format, one would have to use a file-sharing program to get it; but, it is a magnificent eleven minute piece (with an intro by Ed Sullivan) that ranks right up there with "Marty the Martian" for funny girl Barbra.
Now, her album "Butterfly," has her cover of David Bowie's "Life on Mars," which is quite humorous, but for all the wrong reasons. . .

Posted by td @ 08/07/2003 06:51 AM PST

Up for bid on EBAY a 16mm Sound copy of an episode of RIPCORD featuring Miss Allison Hayes as the "Para-Nurse" - whew that must have big one big helicopter!

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/07/2003 06:52 AM PST

I know there are a lot of Twilight Zone fans on this board. Last night, I stumbled upon something calling itself by that name, but bearing no resemblance to the classic Rod Sterling show. The story revolved around a babysitter attempting to help a lonely young girl with her neuroses, and ending up being attacked by the girl's doll collection.

Now, I didn't (couldn't) watch all of it, so maybe I am not in a good position to judge, but it may have been the worst thing I have ever seen on television.

Posted by Dave @ 08/07/2003 07:13 AM PST

When I asked the question "Who did you used to like that you don't like now?" and gave my answer as Barbra Striesand, I had no idea so many others would agree with me. The sad thing is that she still has the instrument... she just doesn't use it the way she used to. Perhaps someone should direct her to today's notes at this here site so she can see how many fans she has lost and what she could do to get them back.

Posted by William E. Lurie @ 08/07/2003 07:13 AM PST

Dave - There were 2 subsequent series using the Twilight Zone name. One was broadcast last season on UPN but I think the one you are referring to is the one from the 80s which is now being rerun on TNT. Click on my name for more info.

And come on people. Only a few more posts to make it 300!

Posted by William E. Lurie @ 08/07/2003 07:19 AM PST

Bill - if only she would.

I started out NOT liking Miss Streisand...she is playing Dolly???

Then, she won me over.....then she lost me again!

I guess however, since he hasn't been mentioned yet, I will add Mr Michael Jackson to the list. What happened? Of course, THEY change and WE change.

But perhaps also...we change and they don't! I think that's what happened to Betty Hutton. She just kept doing what we used to love her for...and we didn't love her anymore.

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/07/2003 07:21 AM PST

Doing my part for 300: Who knew
that we could be so special?

Also, copying is quite expensive.

And, not everyone who doesn't
use their full name is ashamed or
cheating!

Posted by Hapgood @ 08/07/2003 07:21 AM PST

No, WEL, this must have been a more recent series of TZ. I didn't check which channel aired it, but it was probably UPN. (I don't get TNT.)

The leading actress looked a lot like Jessica Simpson (a Britney Spears wanna-be).

Posted by Dave @ 08/07/2003 07:22 AM PST

Jrand: An irony deficiency is nothing to be ashamed of. You're probably just not getting enough in your diet. Have you ever considered a really good irony supplement...?

Posted by Lulu @ 08/07/2003 07:23 AM PST

Sometimes the internet assigns us a name, and we adopt!

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/07/2003 07:24 AM PST

And let's not forget...if composers didn't recycle their tunes, we might never have heard "Blue Moon", by Rodgers & Hart.

Other examples?

Posted by Dave @ 08/07/2003 07:26 AM PST

I will check into it, Lulu.

OH DAVE! The UPN TZ had an episode earlier this year the updated It's A Good Life that featured Billy Mumy and Cloris Leachman and it was painful.

Don't torture yourself! Run! It is NOT THE Twilight Zone it is the ERSATZ TWILIGHT ZONE.

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/07/2003 07:27 AM PST

That HELLO DOLLY medley is brilliant. Barbra seems relaxed and playful. She makes some nice comment about Carol Channing than says she "was followed by the great Pearl Bailey...and over the years was played by Ginger Rogers, Betty Grable, Martha Raye, Eve Arden, Gloria Jean, Peggy Ryan, Maria Ouspenskaya...and was performed by the Denmark Repretory Company on alternating nights by the boys in the band!"

Posted by MasterLcZ @ 08/07/2003 07:32 AM PST

It's the same old Ben just with a full name for one post.

Not a great example because the songs are not so great but Jule Styne recycled Call Me Savage from Fade Out Fade In and dropped it into Hallelujah, Baby! as Witches Brew (the witches from the Scottish Play - I ain't typin' that title here, no siree bob! - sing a song using the tune from Call Me Savage)

Posted by Ben McLaughlin @ 08/07/2003 07:35 AM PST

300 posts ho!

no that isn't an insult :)

I'm off to work to save the world from themselves for a mere billion dollars (those who know where I work will get that.) Today I might actually get to put together some furniture from IKEA. Woo Hoo! Yippee! Now I know what working at a non-profit looks like: chaos. :)

I burned myself a nice highlights cd from my recent musical madness binge. The Streets of Dublin as an opening number? why not? :)

toodles all - let's hope we make 300!

Posted by Emily @ 08/07/2003 07:37 AM PST

Sooooo close, 298 is here with this post.

Maria Ouspenskaya-what a great old movie character actress. Where else could you find references to Babs and Maria Ouspenskaya in the same breath, I ask you?

Posted by Ben @ 08/07/2003 07:38 AM PST

Gotta give a yell to those Joan Davis fans out there. I remember seeing some of those 1940s Columbia B-films of hers (TWO SENORITAS FROM CHICAGO was one of them) when I was a wee tot in the early 1960s and finding them hysterically funny. I'd LOVE to see them now. The three I most want to see are SHE WROTE THE BOOK with Jack Oakie (a ripoff of THEODORA GOES WILD, but those two together sounds like a riot), HOLD THAT CO-ED, one of her Fox "Bs" where Joan wins the Big Campus Football game while the stadium is hit by a tornado, and FREE, BLONDE AND 21 (One of the GREAT movie titles of all time) where Joan co-stars with the delicious duo of Mary Beth Hughes and Lynn Bari.

Posted by MasterLcZ @ 08/07/2003 07:40 AM PST

Okay. That site said that the UPN "Twilight Zone" was no longer running but I guess it didn't count re-runs.

Almost a case of recycling - Kander & Ebb wrote a song for an early Liza album which never caught on... until they added it to the film of CABARET several years later and this time "Maybe Next Time" became a known quantity if not a major hit.

Posted by William E. Lurie @ 08/07/2003 07:41 AM PST

300!

there goes the balloons and confetti cannon!

congrats all :)

Posted by Girl in a Cake @ 08/07/2003 07:41 AM PST

Will there be 300?

Yes, that Twlight Zone - hosted by, I believe, Forest Whitaker for some crooked reason, had me excited in concept. I gave it a few chances but have steadily avoided it since.

I thought it could work - to me, the CBS revival in the late 80s/early 90s worked. It was creepy and got the tone right, and opened the door for that very good Showtime revival of OUTER LIMITS that lasted forever and attracted so many great writers. The TZ revival on CBS was itself a product of the critical acclaim of the Speilberg series AMAZING STORIES and the moderate success of the theatrical film TZ.

Are we at 300 yet?

Posted by Don @ 08/07/2003 07:43 AM PST

Wow, we broke 300 posts...first time since Oscar night?

Posted by Lulu @ 08/07/2003 07:43 AM PST

Of course, Rodgers recycled "This Was a Real nice Hayride" from OKLAHOMA! and interpolated it into CAROUSEL.

Since Jules Styne was mentioned, there is that song from RUGGLES OF RED GAP ("I'm in Pursuit of Happiness") that was dusted off for GYPSY as "You'll Never Get Away From Me".

So close...

Posted by Dave @ 08/07/2003 07:43 AM PST

Another recycled tune: Harry Warren re-used "Hayride" cut from THE HARVEY GIRLS for "The House of the Singing Bamboo" in PAGAN LOVE SONG.

Posted by MasterLcZ @ 08/07/2003 07:44 AM PST

Don: Right underneath Bruce's notes and signature you'll see bold type stating: "___ Unseemly Posts." Right now on my screen it's at 304, but of course the number will be a bit higher once this is sent. :)

Posted by Lulu @ 08/07/2003 07:45 AM PST

Don: Right underneath Bruce's notes and signature you'll see bold type stating: "___ Unseemly Comments." Right now on my screen it's at 304, but of course the number will be a bit higher once this is sent. :)

Posted by Lulu @ 08/07/2003 07:45 AM PST

Weird...I stopped my post from being sent, corrected the mistake, but it seems the first one made it through after all. At any rate, YES, we're well over 300 posts.

Posted by Lulu @ 08/07/2003 07:47 AM PST

Yeah - I saw that, but it took me a minute to read some new posts and to write my own. I wasn't sure whether the threshold had been crossed in that time.

Posted by Don @ 08/07/2003 07:48 AM PST

Yeah - I saw that, but it took me a minute to read some new posts and to write my own. I wasn't sure whether the threshold had been crossed in that time.

Posted by Don @ 08/07/2003 07:48 AM PST

WE MADE IT TO 300 and without padding with 1 word posts or something special like the Oscars. I'm sure we are the most popular theatre site on the internet by now.

Joan Davis was a frequent guest on Tallulah Bankhead's radio show "The Big Show". This was around the same time as "I Married Joan" and she was always funny. "The Big Show" was NBC's last attempt to keep network radio popular once television caught on. On one show they had a quartette sung by Bob Hope, Van Johnson, Ezio Pinza and Groucho Marx. Over a few weeks time they had all three Ethels: Barrymore, Waters and Merman. Thank God for audiotape which has preserved all 28 episodes.

Posted by William E. Lurie @ 08/07/2003 07:48 AM PST

More composers stealing from themselves:

Irving Berlin:
The portion of "There's No Business Like Show Business" that goes "The Sawdust and the Horses and the Smell" and the section of "A Couple of Swells" that starts "The Vanderbilts Have Asked Us Out To Tea". It's not a whole song, but several lines with almost exactly the same melody.

Posted by William E. Lurie @ 08/07/2003 07:54 AM PST

It's not stealing if the composer wrote it himself for something else. It's only stealing if he uses someone else's work.

Posted by Laura @ 08/07/2003 07:59 AM PST

Good morning, everyone. Wow. How busy everyone was posting yesterday! The one night I decide to get some sleep and I miss all the fun!

Congratulations, BK, and all H/K!

Posted by Susan @ 08/07/2003 08:00 AM PST

Wow! I can't believe it...so many posts!

Talk about composers stealing from themselves...I can hear five different Sondheim shows wrapped up in PASSION.

Re. Noel's observation about Lloyd Webber's lyrics... Yes, they may have been better in their original form, but let's keep in mind that Andy didn't write the lyrics himself, so we can't blame him for that.

Not to imply that you guys are bashing him, but I'd like to take just a moment to defend poor Andy. He's got such a following of people who genuinely hate him and his work and I don't understand it. Sure, CATS is dated, but don't forget it was THE show to see in the early- to mid-eighties, as was EVITA (which is a brilliant score). SUPERSTAR was ground-breaking, and JOSEPH is still one of Rodgers & Hammerstein's (the licensing company) top selling shows. ASPECTS is a lovely score, and SUNSET BLVD. is, as well. And for all the flack that people give PHANTOM, its still one of my sentimental favorites. I love the score, the staging is still impressive 15 years later, and if I got a job doing a Lloyd Webber show, you bet your sweet bippie, I'd take it! So many people take issue with his work, and the fact that shows like CATS and PHANTOM have run so long, but I think it behooves us to remember that, while CATS may have overstayed its welcome, and while PHANTOM may be running indefinitely, those two shows alone kept HUNDREDS of my fellow actors, musicians, crew members and front of house people employed for a lot of years, and I think that's something that his nay-sayers should be more aware of in the future.

And now I will get off my soap box and hie my VERY tardy behind to MTI.

Posted by Jason @ 08/07/2003 08:15 AM PST

I like ALW....

The CD's are always fun to listen to. And the shows are interesting. EVITA and JOSEPH and SUPERSTAR.

PHANTOM is interesting to watch, SUNSET BOULEVARD is more faithful to the film version than most other adaptations.

Employment and enjoyment...his shows provide them both. Not for everyone, but as Bill Sampson se elegantly put it....maybe it's not YOUR theatre, but it is theatre....

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/07/2003 08:57 AM PST

I like ALW....

The CD's are always fun to listen to. And the shows are interesting. EVITA and JOSEPH and SUPERSTAR.

PHANTOM is interesting to watch, SUNSET BOULEVARD is more faithful to the film version than most other adaptations.

Employment and enjoyment...his shows provide them both. Not for everyone, but as Bill Sampson so elegantly put it....maybe it's not YOUR theatre, but it is theatre....

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/07/2003 08:57 AM PST

I like ALW....

The CD's are always fun to listen to. And the shows are interesting. EVITA and JOSEPH and SUPERSTAR.

PHANTOM is interesting to watch, SUNSET BOULEVARD is more faithful to the film version than most other adaptations.

Employment and enjoyment...his shows provide them both. Not for everyone, but as Bill Sampson so elegantly put it....maybe it's not YOUR theatre, but it is theatre....

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/07/2003 08:58 AM PST

I like ALW....

The CD's are always fun to listen to. And the shows are interesting. EVITA and JOSEPH and SUPERSTAR.

PHANTOM is interesting to watch, SUNSET BOULEVARD is more faithful to the film version than most other adaptations.

Employment and enjoyment...his shows provide them both. Not for everyone, but as Bill Sampson so elegantly put it....maybe it's not YOUR theatre, but it is theatre....

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/07/2003 08:58 AM PST

I like ALW....

The CD's are always fun to listen to. And the shows are interesting. EVITA and JOSEPH and SUPERSTAR.

PHANTOM is interesting to watch, SUNSET BOULEVARD is more faithful to the film version than most other adaptations.

Employment and enjoyment...his shows provide them both. Not for everyone, but as Bill Sampson so elegantly put it....maybe it's not YOUR theatre, but it is theatre....

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/07/2003 08:59 AM PST