Posted by Noel @ 08/18/2003 08:54 AM PST

Simon Cowell as Zach and the hopefuls on AMERICAN IDOL doing A Chorus Line.

Oh wait.. isn't that pretty much the idea? lol

Posted by Craig @ 08/18/2003 09:03 AM PST

As Bruce has seemingly abandoned the concept of conducting Trivia
Contests, I have taken up the gauntlet. Herewith, today's question:
Every year, at the Tony Awards, it's orchestra conductor, Elliot Lawrence, shleps out the same music cues to play-on celebrity presenters who have nothing to do with any show that has music. They are specific songs, each from a different musical of the past.
I can think of four, offhand.
If someone comes up with another one, I'll know if it's right.
Name as many as you can, and the shows they come from.
The first one to come up with 4 correct answers wins. If no one comes up with 4 by the end of post-time tomorrow morning, then the one with the most correct answers wins. Looking at a tape of any Tony Awards show is considered cheating.
Post your answers on this site. Not at "ask BK". If Bruce considers this worthy of a Sparkling Prize, he will provide one. I, myself, am not in the Sparkling business.
Good luck, one and all.

Posted by Mark Rothman @ 08/18/2003 09:05 AM PST

I suddenly feel as if I have NEVER seen a Tony braodcast. But I am trying to remember...I seem to think that "There's No Business Like Show Business" and "There Is Nothing Like A Dame" have been played a couple of times...but I could be wrong. Can't think of anymore right now.

The worst casting for a revival of A CHORUS LINE right now might be reuniting those that are left of the original cast and letting them try those songs and dances again. "One Singular Sensation" indeed. When I saw the show for the first time, my experience was somewhat like WEL's with DREAMGIRLS. A Saturday night show, on Broadway, and 5 understudies were on.

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/18/2003 09:22 AM PST

Yes, I've read those threads. Finding Nama and Master LcZ are seriously personality deficient -- so much so that they invent fictions to amuse themselves and to get people to respond to them.

They should be ignored, frankly.

Such sad, sad blobs lost in humanity.

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/18/2003 09:24 AM PST

I haven't totally abandoned
trivia, in fact I've had a guest
trivia question ready to go for
weeks. It's just been dormant,
oh, yes, it's been dormant. But
soon it will not be dormant, it
will be dormant-less. But
thank you Mark Rothman for
taking up Clint Eastwood's
The Gauntlet - because I know
people have fun with it.

Posted by bk @ 08/18/2003 09:25 AM PST

Sorry to have missed the chat last night. I was caught up in watching an amusing Rocky Jones Space Ranger DVD called THE MENACE FROM OUTER SPACE! This was my very first Rocky Jones experience...and it was a lot of fun I must say. And I must thank JRand52 for insisting that I watch one!!

As for today's question...I have to sadly admit that I have never seen A CHORUS LINE. But I will throw in my choice of cast being the 135 people running for Governor of California. I am sure that would produce some fine dance numbers!

OK, tis time for some coffee!

Posted by MBarnum @ 08/18/2003 09:41 AM PST

How many folks on these pages would be upset if I dissed John Wayne?

Just curious. I've taken issue with the "legend"
on another forum and it has excited some otherwise intelligent people who are full of pronouncements about how films should be made with an eye for accuracy.

Discussion turned toward a new film about the Alamo and someone asked whether it was something "the duke" might be ashamed of.

I found that funny, and said so, citing the duke's film as historically inaccurate and racially risible. I also posed a question about why the duke is so often held up as an "ideal" of American heroism when John Wayne actually opted out (i.e. shunned) war service citing that it would leave his family in dire straits. Wayne, at that time, was one of the wealthiest actors in Hollywood. And no one among his peers who put on the uniform ever saw their families suffer any at all.

The best answer I got was "print the legend" which meant nothing other than "let's all be ostriches."

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/18/2003 09:43 AM PST

If we judged how we like
actors based on their personal
lives, I'm afraid the list wouldn't
be long. The Duke was who
he was, like it or hate it.

But, the Duke was a great
movie actor and nothing will
ever detract from the
enjoyment I get watching his
films. I never tire of him,
basically, and can watch The
Searchers over and over again
- also The Quiet Man, The
High and The Mighty, The Man
Who Shot Liberty Valance, Rio
Bravo, Red River, and even his
lesser efforts I find enjoyable.

Posted by bk @ 08/18/2003 09:56 AM PST

Ron - Some good points. I like Wayne's movies, mostly, although as you say THE ALAMO wasn't the historical document it was made out to be....but then, neither was DAVID AND BATHSHEBA.

Certainly the "new" version will be more accurate and have a more balanced point of view - but I think it's just as dangerous to criticise films and even people from the distance of time. We will never have the 1960 point of view again - and Wayne's decision about his war service was something that he had to answer for and live with. If the men who served accepted his reason, I don't think I can do any less. And movies were vital for the war effort.

I don't know what he would think of a "new" version of THE ALAMO, but I think his status as a movie icon is pretty secure no matter what anyone might write or say about him personally - unless he had run off with Eddie Fisher.

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/18/2003 10:00 AM PST

Thank you for that mental image, Jrand.

Posted by Lulu @ 08/18/2003 10:01 AM PST

Hehehehe....Jacqueline Kennedy said that to a friend when she was talking about her image in the mid-60's. She happened to mention that people liked her a lot and that anyone who criticized her opened himself up to some strong criticism. Mrs. Kennedy thought that this would continue and that anyone talking against her would look like a rat: "Unless I run off with Eddie Fisher."

Whereupon - Esquire Magazine in their year-end wrap up featured Mrs. Kennedy on a sled going downhill - the sled being driven of course by Mr Eddie Fisher.

And this was a couple of years before JK married Mr Aristotle Onassis and stunned the world.

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/18/2003 10:09 AM PST

So sorry to have been E and T this morning, I just got back from babysitting. And I'm dead tired, I left chat at 12:15 last night, fell asleep at 1:15, and had to wake up at 7. It hurt.

Another big welcome to chocolate-chip cookie Tyson, who showed up late last night.

Phil, I completely forgot about re-sending the sound clip to you, forgive me :)

BK, sad as it may seem, I have yet to see A Chorus Line. Once I have I'll answer.

I love John Wayne for a very pathetic reason. He has the most wonderful voice :). I love his movies just because of his lines haha. Wasn't he in umm...Oh geesh, this movie we used to watch when we were little...Donovan's Reef! I love that movie :)

Someone mentiones ostriches...I got bit by one once, and believe you me, it hurt like hell. Never get bit by an ostrich.

Posted by Sarah @ 08/18/2003 10:37 AM PST

Hey, where in tarnation IS
everyone?

Let's list our favorite Duke
movies. I, too, love Donovan's
Reef. Lee Marvin is just too
too and so is Elizabeth Allen.

I don't understand this lack of
Chorus Line nightmare
casting. It is a show RIFE with
possibilities - RIFE, do you
hear me? Cassie: Melanie
Griffith. Val: Britney Spears
Zach: Brian Dennehy Sheila:
Seth Rudetsky Come on, you
finish.

Posted by bk @ 08/18/2003 10:49 AM PST

Trust me, Sarah, Chorus Line is not a movie that you want to willingly seek out. However, anyone involved in theater or who loves musical theater should make a point of seeing some stage production of the show, even if it only a community theater production. Only after you have seen it on stage, should you ever subject yourself to Attenborough's screen vision.

Posted by TCB @ 08/18/2003 10:49 AM PST

Well, the advance CD of JEEPERS CREEPERS: GREAT SONGS FROM HORROR FILMS arrived earlier today and I've spent the past hour or so positively revelling in its brilliance. Bruce Kimmel and his entire cast and crew have put together a truly magnificent album. There were some cuts I hadn't previously heard, since they were recorded in LA, and they're every bit as dynamic as what we got from the New York sessions. I first mentioned my idea for a "horror's greatest hits" album to Bruce over 10 years ago, so this has been a long time coming. Definitely worth the wait, though!

I'm a happy man . . .

Posted by Richard Valley @ 08/18/2003 10:53 AM PST

I don't know, BK, I thought the film version was already pretty much of a nightmare. But, if you insist:

Zach ........ Chevy Chase
Cassie ...... Jennifer Beals
Val......... Pamela Anderson
Paul ....... Paul Reubens

Is that better?

Posted by TCB @ 08/18/2003 11:10 AM PST

My favorite movie in which John Wayne was a star is "The Quiet Man." He did his best "acting" there.

I am also fond of "The Sons of Katie Elder."

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/18/2003 11:11 AM PST

A friendly disagreement with DR Jrand52 ("The worst casting for a revival of A CHORUS LINE right now might be reuniting those that are left of the original cast and letting them try those songs and dances again.") I mean, it's probably true for some of the cast, but surely many of them still have "it." I worked with Priscilla Lopez a few years back and she's still terrific.

Posted by Panni @ 08/18/2003 11:18 AM PST

Whoops! Favorite John Wayne movie would be North to Alaska.

Posted by TCB @ 08/18/2003 11:18 AM PST

Richard-

Wow..we are all jealous that you got to hear Jeepers Creepers! Personally, I cannot wait for this cd.. it is special for many many reasons!

Posted by Craig @ 08/18/2003 11:23 AM PST

I've been bad, dear readers.
I've been very very bad. I've
been having an unseemly
discourse with findingnamo,
oh, yes, I've been having an
unseemly discourse. I know I
shouldn't, I know it's what he
lives for, but I cannot let people
say things that are untrue,
about Juliana or myself. I
know it's his "thing" - I know
he's doing it on purpose, and I
know, above all, that he is a
cretin and not worthy of my
time. But, I couldn't help it. I
have, however, said my final
words to him, and will refrain
from any further responses.

I am so happy Richard likes
the CD. I'm quite fond of it
myself. I wonder if
findingnamo will like it, or
whether, given his anorexia
fixation, he will find it a bit thin.

I can't wait for you all to hear it,
and to hear our very own
Hainsies/Kimlets of the
ensemble - including a
spoken solo line from our very
own Scarlet Jason.

Posted by bk @ 08/18/2003 11:42 AM PST

From Left to Right:
Don - Nathan Lane
Maggie - Ethel Merman
Mike - Justin Timberlake
Connie - Nicole Kidman
Greg - Keanu Reeves
Cassie - Melanie Griffith
Sheila - Joan Rivers
Bobby - Gary Busey
Bebe - Jennifer Lopez
Judy - Liza Minelli
Richie - Ruben Studdard
Al - Russell Crowe (actually...)
Kristine - Cheri Oteri
Val - Winona Ryder
Mark - Leonardo DiCaprio
Paul - Eminem
Diana - Rosie Perez

and
Zach - Christopher Walken
Larry - Will Ferrell

Cut Dancers: Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen; Madonna; Mike Myers; Jackie Chan; Calista Flockhart; Ben Stein.

Posted by Joy @ 08/18/2003 11:45 AM PST

Busy day at work.

My favorite John Wayne movies is "The High and the Mighty" and I am fond of his visit to "I Love Lucy".

I love A CHORUS LINE too much to try and imagine a bad cast. Oh all right - here goes a partial cast. Remember there are mostly very talented people who are just wrong for these roles (with a couple of untalented exceptions you can probably figure for yourself).

Women:
Cassie...Marissa Winakour
Val...Rosie O'Donnell
Diana...Rosie Perez
Shelia...Kristin Chenowitz

Men:
Zach...Harvey Fierstein
Paul...John Leguzamo
Richie...Gary Coleman

Couple:
Al & Kirsten...Ben & J Lo

Posted by William E. Lurie @ 08/18/2003 11:45 AM PST

I posted on a Millie forum that I
belong to that the Juliana stuff was
bs. I didn't get angry, I merely said
what you said, bk, that she eats like
a horse and is perfectly healthy. The
girls there are extremely supportive
of Juliana, and if they see anything
else, they'll tell me so I can tell you.

They also think FindingNamo is an
idiot. :)

Posted by Sarah @ 08/18/2003 11:48 AM PST

NOW we're gettin' somewhere.
Excellent casts all. I would pay
to see some of these people
doing these roles. I would pay
to have Joy and William E.
Lurie be my casting directors.
Now, get to work the rest of
you.

Posted by bk @ 08/18/2003 11:49 AM PST

Good, Sarah - and do feel free
to post your own response on
the b'wayworld board - the
more the merrier.

Posted by bk @ 08/18/2003 11:50 AM PST

Harvey Fierstein as Zach! Well done WEL.

Posted by TCB @ 08/18/2003 11:53 AM PST

Oh, God, please make it go away! I can't get these images out of my head!

Casting A Chorus Line is one of my favorite preoccupations. Such personalities.

Sarah, you simply MUST go see the very next stage production that is available to you. It is something that every young actor should experience. Heck, old actors too, for that matter. When I was a child I watched the movie over and over, sang and danced it in my sleep, until I saw the stage version and was blown away. It changed my life. I would do anything on that show, anywhere, anytime: flip periactoi (sp?), play Maggie, sweep the stage, call the light cues, wash the dance belts, anything, you hear me??? ANYTHING!!!

Posted by Joy @ 08/18/2003 11:54 AM PST

DR Panni - I stand corrected. In fact the original choices for the roles might still be the best choices.... The cast album is a favorite of mine, and it must be the performances, it certainly isn't MUCH of the music.

Okay - bad casting for the revival:

Zach - Jack Noseworthy
Cassie - Sarah Jessica Parker
Sheila - Loni Anderson
Bobby - Gale Harold
Diana - Jennifer Lopez
Val - Suzanne Sommers
Greg - Martin Short
Paul - Antonio Banderas

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/18/2003 11:58 AM PST

Wow...I have read some truly horrific nightmare casting.

Here's my spin:

Cassie--Roseanne
Zach--Arnold Schwarzenegger
Val--Traci Lords
Diana--Jennifer Lopez (I refuse to call her J. Lo because that implies that I like her)
Paul--Andy Dick

As for John Wayne movies, the only one I have ever seen is Stage Coach. I don't like the guy's politics from what I've read of them, but no one can deny that he had presence.

Sarah--I have no doubt that it's no fun being bit by an ostrich but I got bitten by a goose once. Geese are worse then some women with PMS...nasty, nasty little birds when you piss em off.

Posted by Maya @ 08/18/2003 12:02 PM PST

Zach - Al Pacino
Cassie - can't you just picture Ethel Merman belting "What I Did For Love"
Val - Raquel Welch (she couldn't do any worse than she did in "Victor Victoria")
Paul - Marlon Brando (especially the monologue)

...and the couple who sing "Sing" - Joan Rivers (subbing for Joan Sutherland) and Luciano Pavarotti!!!

Posted by Phil @ 08/18/2003 12:07 PM PST

Hit by an Ostrich would be a
good title of a book. So would
Hit by an Elaine Stritch.

I saw A Chorus Line at a
preview at the Shubert in NY. I
was in town to preview The
First Nudie Musical at a
theater on the east side. I had
an afternoon to kill until the
showing that evening. I was
walking in Shubert Alley and I
ran into a friend, Rick Mason
(Cameron) - we had a nice
chat and then he told me he
was in this new show and
would I like to see the
matinee. Of course, I said
sure, and he arranged house
seats for me.

I tell you true, that the minute
the lights went up I had a lump
in my throat the size of a
football, and it never went
away. I knew nothing of the
show at that point, and it was
an incredible and amazing
thing to see with fresh eyes. I
was a huge Bennett fan and
his choreography in this show
was brilliant. And that cast - a
once in a lifetime thing. I have
seen the show at least fifty
times since, and I always
enjoy it. No one I've seen has
ever equalled the original
performers - even though I've
seen some pretty good
people. The show has been
ripped off so many times in so
many ways that naturally its
freshness has gone away.
But I'm here to tell you it was
one of the greatest theatrical
viewing experiences of my life.

Posted by bk @ 08/18/2003 12:10 PM PST

DR Ron Pulliam: I think it's perfectly okay to diss John Wayne's ALAMO...though not on the grounds you're dissing it. Diss it because it is dramatically inert as a movie. Not one of the Duke's better efforts...in no small part, I suspect because he got in over his head as a director.

That said, I don't really think we can diss Duke's war record (or lack thereof), I don't know what his personal feelings or reasons for his choice were. Besides, Duke there were plenty of actors at home, playing the war hero in morale movies...Greg Peck, Errol Flynn, lots of others.

I also find it troubling when people try to assess his abilities as an actor because of his politics.

I think it is just naive and silly to try to denigrate Duke's abilities. He was fine and, at some things, he was better than anybody. THE SEARCHERS & THE QUIET MAN are in my top ten list of all-time great films...and he gives magnificent, subtle, and complex portrayals.

Other fine Wayne performances can be found in STAGECOACH, RED RIVER, SHE WORE A YELLOW RIBBON, RIO BRAVO, THE MAN WHO SHOT LIBERTY VALANCE, and TRUE GRIT. There are lots of others where he is perfectly genial, charismatic, and does solid, yeoman, good work. While I don't think THE SHOOTIST is one of his upper echelon performances, I do think it a nice bow out for him.

Posted by Charles Pogue @ 08/18/2003 12:13 PM PST

I posted at B'Wayworld...I think they
do it for the sake of arguing. Look at
their responses! Its nothing, just
jibber jabber. If they shut up about it,
they'll save themselves a whole lot
of trouble thinking of good
comebacks. Which they don't. I don't
think any of them has made a good
point. especially that whole "the way
yong girls look at it." Let me tell you,
my best friend went through
anorexia last year. I was with her the
whole way, and she's still in
recovery. Anorexics do not eat
salad. Anorexics eat nothing. What
they do eat, they work out
obsessively to lose. They are
constantly sick, fainting, and getting
dizzy. If she can do those dances
and not fall, I think she's fine. I didn't
say this there, because I don't feel
like letting my personal life open to
people I don't like, but that REALLY
pisses me off. Erg.

Posted by Sarah @ 08/18/2003 12:17 PM PST

Oh, by the mane of Aslan. What a bunch o' drama queens! Anorexic? What anorexic do YOU know orders Cobb salads? My goodness, the bacon, the bleu cheese, the dressing, for crying out loud! Those people are insane.

Look, she's 20 years old (right?), she probably has some youngish and not-so-healthy attitudes about food, but who doesn't? Everyone thinks they know everything about nutrition and working out, but the rampant myths and wrongheadedness out there prove them wrong. People should mind their own business when it comes to judging other people's eating and exercise habits.

IF Juliana had an eating disorder, you can bet your broccoli that her fellow cast members -- especially the adults -- would stage an intervention.

Maybe I should post this on there, oui?

*munch*

Posted by Joy @ 08/18/2003 12:30 PM PST

Sarah, you're exactly right... none of them have made a point. Any comments such as those on B'Wayworld or even a conjecture of that nature are out of line. These young people are jealous of Juliana and they handle it by pulling disparaging remarks out of their asses. Heck, I'm jealous of her and I'm a dude.

Posted by Paulie @ 08/18/2003 12:30 PM PST

Dude, welcome to our world.
We like the term butt cheeks
much more than "asses". We
pass on ass because it is
crass, but alas ass does
seem to fit the people, doesn't
it?

Posted by bk @ 08/18/2003 12:34 PM PST

Welcome new DR Paulie.

BK--thank you for sharing your memories of seeing A Chorus Line. I added another post to the BroadwayWorld board...I doubt it'll get that vapid FindingNamo to shut up though.

Phil--Actually, I can picture Merman belting out What I Did For Love! I read that it was one of the songs she used in one of her Boston Pops concerts, lol! I would have LOVED to have heard that, even if she was never destined to play Cassie :)

Posted by Maya @ 08/18/2003 12:39 PM PST

Welcome new DR Paulie.

BK--thank you for sharing your memories of seeing A Chorus Line. I added another post to the BroadwayWorld board...I doubt it'll get that vapid FindingNamo to shut up though.

Phil--Actually, I can picture Merman belting out What I Did For Love! I read that it was one of the songs she used in one of her Boston Pops concerts, lol! I would have LOVED to have heard that, even if she was never destined to play Cassie :)

Posted by Maya @ 08/18/2003 12:39 PM PST

John Wayne movies that I like:

True Grit
Red River
The Searchers
Rio Bravo
The Conqueror - just because

But the one I saw at the drive in and just REALLY REALLY enjoy is North to Alaska. JW, Stewart Granger, Fabian, Capucine, and Ernie Kovacs. What great fun!

And two very close - THE QUIET MAN and THE HIGH AND THE MIGHTY.

All mentioned before, but worth repeating for anyone who might be looking for a video or DVD to buy.

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/18/2003 12:44 PM PST

BK, our darling mentor and fearless leader...

DOWN BOY!!

I know it's hard to resist, but this Rabid Moron is having so much fun with you. You are his little toy. If you refuse to play with him, he won't have any fun!

Do you know who this person is, BTW (we all know what that stands for, oui?)? Will you share?

Posted by Joy @ 08/18/2003 12:47 PM PST

Yes, welcome new DR Paulie! My my, it seems as if we have a couple of new DRs per day, anymore. Cool!

A lazy but fun way to do nightmare casting is to simply lift a sitcom cast and insert it into the production. For example, the cast of What's Happenin'?!? starring in ACL. Or the cast of The Love Boat. How frightening are those choices?

My fave John Wayne movie (not that I've seen many) is Stagecoach, which I never tire of viewing.

Posted by Lulu @ 08/18/2003 12:50 PM PST

Joy, I have been avoiding
those folks like the plague, but
this latest was so wrong on so
many levels that I had to go in.
That's what he wanted, of
course, but he deserved what
he was given and I feel ever so
much better having done it.

Posted by bk @ 08/18/2003 12:58 PM PST

BK: Sharon Tate was amazingly beatiful. In The Wrecking Crew, she also proved herself a gifted comedian, playing a sexy klutz. She stole that movie from Elke Sommer (okay, not much of a heist), Nancy Kwan (playing Ya-Rang - whose name was delivered with a question mark) and even the underrated Dean Martin.

As for a Chorus Line's nightmare cast, how about lining up a few Dollys: Pearl Bailey as Cassie (The Music and the Mirror, Honey); Martha Raye as Sheila; and Phyllis Diller as Val?

Posted by Dan-in-Toronto @ 08/18/2003 12:59 PM PST

Oh, and thank you to all the
dear readers who recently
posted over there - the more
the merrier, and Juliana is very
appreciative of the support.

I'm thinkin' we might get to fifty
posts today.

Posted by bk @ 08/18/2003 12:59 PM PST

Sadly, most of the people who have eating disorders conceal that very fact from everyone they know. If Juliana actually had a eating disorder, it is doubtful that she would be honest about her eating habits.

What I find far more troubling is the fact that some people can talk so negatively about someone, knowing full-well that the person will be able to read exactly what they have said. What is wrong with people?

Posted by TCB @ 08/18/2003 01:00 PM PST

Tsk-tsk, I think you are all being terribly unfair to poor dear sweet Finding Namo. Bless his heart, he's sincerely concerned with the impact that Juliana writing about what she had to eat for lunch will doubtless have upon scores of innocent young girls nationwide. What on earth is wrong with that? I hope this serves as a lesson to all of you twentysomething young women never to post about what you ate, or the fact that you just got your hair cut, or what you're wearing ("clothing call," BK? For SHAME!), as writing about your appearance will only serve to reinforce the negative idea already thrust upon women by society that their appearance is everything.

I do hope you all will see fit to behave yourselves henceforth, and please do stop impugning the charitable motives and kindly concern of our dear friend Finding Namo.

Posted by Lulu @ 08/18/2003 01:12 PM PST

You're welcome, BK!

Lulu--you crack me up :D

Posted by Maya @ 08/18/2003 01:20 PM PST

Dear esteemed, swarthy, and rugged BK --

Thank you so much for your warm post about seeing A Chorus Line for the first time. As you know from visiting with us, Rick Mason was from Phoenix, and moved back here after he retired as a dancer and performer.....at something like the ripe old age of 31! He became like a brother to Kerry and I, and we loved him right up to the point that he passed quietly out of this world. Rick was not only in the original cast, but was part of the smaller group of people that Bennett used for the recorded "workshops" that form the story line of the show. The book is taken from various facts and incidents (often re-mixed and intermingled between characters) that were tape recorded from the peoples actual lives.

Also BK,...it is interesting to me that when we had a "roll call" a couple of days ago, and I specifically asked for names and bio background about people like "OM Time" and "MasterLcZ" , that there wasn't one little murmur of truthful information that came forward.

The people that I admire and enjoy here are just that ...actual real people. They are as much fun to visit with here as they are in person on either the east coast or the west coast.

So, I agree with the tone of what someone mentioned earlier... I think that you, esteemed BK, should just state a factual representation here of who these "hide-behind-the-nickname" persons are; what their names are, what cities they live in, what their occupations are (if they even have any) and ages. There is certainly nothing libelous in truth. And there is nothing that makes a bitter little bottom-feeder or scavenger cringe more than the cool light of openness and honesty.

Posted by MusicGuy @ 08/18/2003 01:21 PM PST

And, I might add to MusicGuy, their addresses, fax numbers, and names of their first-born sons.
Just kidding.

Posted by Joy @ 08/18/2003 01:25 PM PST

You know, I was just thinking about the whole food obsession/eating disorders issue, and you know, I think that it's good for Juliana to post her food choices for all the world to see! Being honest about what you eat, with yourself and with others, is a big step toward healthy eating habits. I find that when I write down every single thing I eat every day, I do much, much better with my eating habits. Something about having it right there in front of you makes you understand your patterns better. So post away, Juliana Ashley! Shine the light!

Posted by Joy @ 08/18/2003 01:29 PM PST

And, you know, I also find when I proofread my posts, you know, they sound much, much better, you know?

Posted by Joy @ 08/18/2003 01:30 PM PST

Just so you all know, I'm real :)

Posted by Sarah @ 08/18/2003 01:33 PM PST

The following are a list of my favorite John Wayne movies.

Posted by Michael @ 08/18/2003 01:34 PM PST

Isn't it possible to make it so that someone has to register here at HHW before they are able to post? Granted, that would mean that Joan Crawford and Arnold Schwartzenegger would no longer be able to post, but it might be worth it in the long run.

Posted by TCB @ 08/18/2003 01:34 PM PST

Thank you, Michael, I needed a good laugh. Hopefully, you are recovering well after your surgery.

Posted by TCB @ 08/18/2003 01:37 PM PST

I love you too, TCB darling. Bless you.

Posted by Joan Crawford @ 08/18/2003 01:39 PM PST

It's Ah-nold. And I absolutely refuse to answer your questions.

Posted by A. Schwartzenegger @ 08/18/2003 01:42 PM PST

I really have to excuse myself from casting a Chorus Line revival. My singing is excruciating, and my dancing the equivalent of a terrorist attack. Any other performer's failings would look like perfection in comparison.

All this talk of the Duke, however, has me flashing on a film I don't think was mentioned in the "How'd a Flick Like This Get a Score This Good" thread from yesterday. The score for Hatari is one of Mancini's best, ranging from the pop of the Baby Elephant Walk to the long and dangerous horns and percussion that accompanied the hunt sequences. Too bad the film itself is such a disjointed mess.

Posted by S. Woody White @ 08/18/2003 01:43 PM PST

Findingnamo is a sad little loser who has no life and those who echo him need to get a life too. Let him spew his bile, regardless of how untruthful.

The uninformed opinions of unimportant people just do not matter.

He can't hurt Juliana or you. He is transparent. Everyone with a modicum of intelligence can see through his transparent desperate, sad need for attention. What will gnaw his little, miserable, parched soul is being ignored. Don't let him bait you. Just let him and his ilk shrivel up and waft away, vomiting up their empty, ineffectual venom to the uncomprehending air.

When an ant gets in your way, either walk over it...or just step on it, but don't give an ounce more of thought than it deserves.

Does anyone else have the same mental picture of him that I do?A three-hundred pound, sweaty, greasy-haired forty-five year old theatre maven who breathes in laboured, stentorious grunts and lives with his mother, has a dead-end dull job, no friends, and hasn't been laid in fifteen years.

Posted by Charles Pogue @ 08/18/2003 01:43 PM PST

Charles Pogue--LMAO...wow, you really have a talent for description!

Posted by Maya @ 08/18/2003 01:47 PM PST

WOW

What a vivid and impressive diatribe!

Kind of like the Comic Book Guy on The Simpsons?

Posted by Joy @ 08/18/2003 01:49 PM PST

Hey, wait a minute, Charles, I am not Findingnamo!

Posted by TCB @ 08/18/2003 01:55 PM PST

BK - I beat you in seeing A CHORUS LINE. I saw it while it was still at the Public theatre. I had done some work for The New York State Council on the Arts so I used my connections there to get house seats. Carol Channing was also in the audience. I was an emotional wreck at the end (and this still happens no matter how many times I see it). It took me at least an hour to "come down" afterwards and the only time that ever happened before was Judy at the Palace where I reached over the footlights and shook her hand.

And yet as much as I loved ACL, I didn't know if the general public would "get it" and I didn't think it stood much of a chance. I have never been happier to be wrong.

P.S. I also attended the Tony Awards the night ACL won most of the awards.

Posted by William E. Lurie @ 08/18/2003 01:55 PM PST

Chorus Line Nightmare

Paul: Colin Farrell
Zach: Harvey Fierstein
Cassie: Charles Nelson Reilly

maybe more to come

Posted by Michael @ 08/18/2003 01:56 PM PST

My sentiments exactly Michael. Perhaps you needed to have been born South Of The Border.

TCB: My emails are not getting there it seems!

Posted by Tom from Oz @ 08/18/2003 01:58 PM PST

Relate my post to Michaels' re John Wayne!

Posted by Tom from Oz @ 08/18/2003 02:03 PM PST

My apostrophe has a mind of its own. Can't think too much about "A Chorus Line" - even now I am trying to recover from Mr Douglas being cast and the non sensical direction of "At The Ballet" and so much more.

Best thing about John Wayne movies that I can think of: "Green Leaves Of Summer" and the songs from or inspired by "Liberty Valance" and "North To Alaska"

Posted by Tom from Oz @ 08/18/2003 02:11 PM PST

I just got done babysitting the best baby in the whole world! All he did was smile and dance and bounce and growl (yes, they taught their baby how to growl. It's hysterical) at me, I laughed the whole time -when I wasn't reading those stupid BWay posts-. I love babies, they're so happy, it's sad to think that they're going to grow up in a world full of people who are mental.

TCB: Thanks for making me laugh! I hate talking about the anorexia deal because it brings back bad memories, so I was happy to have time with the baby and then come home to more jokes. As I said before, HHW needs more jokes to get us through the day :)

Charles Pouge: I had 2 images of FindingNamo, exactly what you described (although I must say, you had it ALL down, very funny), or some 12 year old computer nerd who has no friends, sits at home and plays computer games all day, has a high shrilly voice, and takes his bitterness out on others, while trying to sound more grown up than he really is. :)

Hmm...I think I'll pop out the funny gross joke from last night. It's crude and somewhat mean, but believe me, I direct it at no one here, I just think we need some more laughs.

Whats the position to make ugly babies?

Ask your parents.

:) Taha.

Posted by Sarah @ 08/18/2003 02:14 PM PST

Favorite John Wayne movie: RED RIVER.

Thanks for sharing your moving tribute to A CHORUS LINE, bk. I think I cried through most of the performance the first time I saw it. As a dancer from age 7, I was seeing bits and pieces of my life up on that stage, and it was overwhelming. One of the unforgettable nights in the theater that one cherishes for the rest of his life.

Nightmare casting of ACL: Cassie - Ethel Merman; Richie - Sinbad; Mark - George Burns.

Posted by Matt H. @ 08/18/2003 02:14 PM PST

Are we casting dead people now?

It's hard to top the brilliant suggestions already made by my fellow Dear Readers, but I would lobby hard to cast Charo in the role of Cassie.

Posted by Jay @ 08/18/2003 02:25 PM PST

Beleive me when I tell you that I cried non-stop through the movie version of ACL. Who would willingly do that to a great musical?

Tom from Oz Who are you?

Posted by TCB @ 08/18/2003 02:30 PM PST

Mr. Charles Pogue may just be the funniest man alive.

Posted by Lulu @ 08/18/2003 02:32 PM PST

I see dead people. I do not
see dear reader Susan. I think
Ethel Merman is a perfect
Maggie - "At the balleeeee-
eeeeeeet"

Pogue, you are masterful. I
think everyone here knows
who OM Time is. I'm still
cementing who I believe
findingnamo is, and I shall be
more than happy to print that
info as soon as it is 100%.

Posted by bk @ 08/18/2003 02:35 PM PST

I think BK must have stock in BroadwayWorld.com, since most of us would never even look at that site unless he brought it to our attention... ;-)

Charles has hit the nail on the head. Ignore it!

Of if you feel the need to respond, just to keep the discussion honest, it is probably best to refrain from comments such as "she's healthier than most of you lot".

I think it is clear that FindingNamo does not have an issue with Juliana (how could he, really?), but he does know how to push BK's buttons. I am not congratulating him for this. I only mean to point out that it appears that Namo writes what he does to get a rise out of BK, and clearly it is working. What makes so many of the DRs so angry, is that sometimes he is actually right.

Posted by Dave @ 08/18/2003 02:46 PM PST

I think BK must have stock in BroadwayWorld.com, since most of us would never even look at that site unless he brought it to our attention... ;-)

Charles has hit the nail on the head. Ignore it!

Of if you feel the need to respond, just to keep the discussion honest, it is probably best to refrain from comments such as "she's healthier than most of you lot".

I think it is clear that FindingNamo does not have an issue with Juliana (how could he, really?), but he does know how to push BK's buttons. I am not congratulating him for this. I only mean to point out that it appears that Namo writes what he does to get a rise out of BK, and clearly it is working. What makes so many of the DRs so angry, is that sometimes he is actually right.

Posted by Dave @ 08/18/2003 02:47 PM PST

Dave, Who is actually right?

Posted by TCB @ 08/18/2003 02:48 PM PST

Just who is OM Time?

Posted by Dave @ 08/18/2003 02:55 PM PST

Everyone, I have an announcement to make:

I am FindingNamo.

(this is seeming more and more like that stupid game show where you have to guess which contestant is the "real" beekeeper/stripper)

Posted by Emily @ 08/18/2003 02:58 PM PST

I am also OM TIME

Posted by Emily @ 08/18/2003 02:58 PM PST

I hope you all realize I'm kidding... :)

sheesh - the publicity this guy is receiving is crazy. I haven't looked at broadwayworld.com this many times in my entire life!

Posted by Emily @ 08/18/2003 02:59 PM PST

Emily? Are you serious?

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/18/2003 03:03 PM PST

Perhaps a clue is needed for the Trivia question:
3 of the 4 songs that I remember are from shows that were not considered hits. The fourth was in a hit show whose reputation has been diminished by subsequent productions.

Posted by Mark Rothman @ 08/18/2003 03:04 PM PST

Ron I am of course kidding...

please don't hurt me!!! :)

Posted by Emily @ 08/18/2003 03:06 PM PST

And smoke? Can the adults please smoke?

Posted by Shiela @ 08/18/2003 03:10 PM PST

Speaking of the euphemism for butt cheeks, I was on another forum where the following exchange took place:

No ... it was a nudist beach. To quote Rodgers and Hammerstein:

"No thong, farewell, auf wiedersehen, goodbye ...."

To quote Meredith Willson, instead:

"I flinch, I shy, when the ass with a layer of hair walks by...."

Somehow, "butt cheeks" just wouldn't have worked in that rhyme scheme!

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/18/2003 03:10 PM PST

And smoke? Can the adults please smoke?

Posted by Shiela @ 08/18/2003 03:11 PM PST

I am Spartacus!

Posted by Jay @ 08/18/2003 03:14 PM PST

NO SMOKING!

It stunts your growth and stifles your lifespan.

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/18/2003 03:14 PM PST

Not to mention that nobody will hang out with you because you smell so bad.

Posted by Sarah @ 08/18/2003 03:17 PM PST

As I said, DAVE, I have
refrained from responding to
his many posts over the last
few weeks. But this particular
diatribe I thought needed a
response. He posted what he
did because he is a
disingenuous idiot. He was
posting this crap long before I
came on the scene. Was he
trying to get a rise out of me
then, Dave? It actually sounds
like you are trying to defend
him and it sounds like you are
implying that he is posting all
this stuff just to get a rise out
of me. Clearly he has issues
with the journal and clearly he
NOW has issues with me
because I actually took the
little wazoo on. But in your
world it's MY fault that he
posts. I get it now. You know,
the way in which you phrase
all this stuff, Dave, why it
almost makes me think that
YOU are FindingNamo, since
you have, on occasion, taken
great delight in "pushing my
buttons". You pushed them
last night in the chat room,
rather obnoxiously in my
opinion (IMO, in Internet lingo).
And aren't you being rather
disingenuous yourself when
you ask who OM Time is? I
think you know very well who
OM Time is, especially as OM
Time has basically stated who
he was.

Posted by bk @ 08/18/2003 03:20 PM PST

And what does "what makes
the DRs so angry is that
sometimes he is actually
right"? Who is actually right?
Someone has asked you to
explain, so explain what you
mean.

I'm thinkin' we might just get to
100 posts and I must say at
rather an early hour. I love you
Hainsies/Kimlets.

Posted by bk @ 08/18/2003 03:25 PM PST

i LOVE bk.

Jokes, people, jokes, let's stay happy and charismatic and bubbly and entertaining.

"2 Blondes walked into a bar.

You'd think one of 'em would've seen it."

There, another joke, now its your turn.

Posted by Sarah @ 08/18/2003 03:32 PM PST

Should I tell the Sophie Tucker
joke again? Maybe not.

Guy goes into a bar and sits
down. There's a bowl of nuts
on the bar. Guy orders a drink.
All of a sudden he hears, "Hey,
you're lookin' good tonight".
He looks around, can't figure
out who's talking to him. He
takes a sip of his drink and he
hears, "Hey, I really like that
tie." Looks around, can't figure
out who's talking to him.
Takes another drink and he
hears, "Wow, you look great
when you're drinking." He
calls over the bartender and
says, "I know you'll think I'm
crazy, but I keep hearing a
voice talk to me, saying the
nicest things, but I can't figure
out who it is." The bartender
says, "Oh, it's the nuts - they're
complimentary."

Posted by bk @ 08/18/2003 03:37 PM PST

All I have to say about A CHORUS LINE:
Jennifer Holliday IS Cassie.
Elaine Stritch IS Val.
Franklin Pangborn IS Zach.
Bea Arthur IS Diana (Morales), and it is Diana, not Cassie, that gets to belt "What I Did For Love."
Kevin Costner is Paul.
Brad Pitt is Gregory.

Posted by td @ 08/18/2003 03:38 PM PST

C'mon Dave, Bk,

let it go! Please... I'd hate to see this board become one where people are fighting all the time.

I am therefore like to initiate a "Finding Namo" infifada.

Please... let's not mention his name, his diabtribes on any chat board, or any of his stupid opinions. :)

Posted by Emily @ 08/18/2003 03:50 PM PST

We'll be putting up a page on the Scarlet Street Website next week so that the many thousands who frequent haineshisway will be able to pre-order JEEPERS CREEPERS: GREAT SONGS FROM HORROR FILMS. (Bruce assures me that the number is indeed in the thousands, and I see that they now include Charles Edward Pogue. who--ahem!--has been notably absent from Scarlet Street of late.)

I've played the album five times, now . . .

Posted by Richard Valley @ 08/18/2003 03:55 PM PST

DR Richard, you are such a tease! When will the cd be available? I'm kinda anxious to hear it, for some odd (or even) reason.

Posted by Susan @ 08/18/2003 04:11 PM PST

Emily! Don't you talk to Dave and BK that way!!!

Posted by TCB @ 08/18/2003 04:14 PM PST

TCB... I WILL speak THAT way (i.e. respectfully disagreeing).

Let's end this awful nonsense and get back to what we're here for... FUN NONSENSE! :)

Posted by Emily @ 08/18/2003 04:16 PM PST

BTW Emily, I was just trying to be a butt cheeks hole.

Posted by TCB @ 08/18/2003 04:17 PM PST

DR Richard Valley, I stop by Scarlet Street almost everyday. I just have had nothing to say of late.

Posted by Charles Pogue @ 08/18/2003 04:22 PM PST

I'm all for ending this
nonsense and having other
nonsense. As long as people
stop pushing my buttons. And
they always push the same
buttons. They push the black
buttons, and the green
buttons, but they never ever
push the red buttons. Why is
that? What's the matter with
red buttons? Damn them,
damn them all to hell.

And no one comments on that
brilliant joke I told? That joke
was told to me by our very own
Vinnie.

Posted by bk @ 08/18/2003 04:25 PM PST

Loved the joke, bk. I told my dad and it took him a second, and then he burst out laughing, and he's still chuckling in his office...he's nuts.

Posted by Sarah @ 08/18/2003 04:33 PM PST

Hello DR's. Just a note that I will be quite E & T this week as tomorrow I head down to the County of Orange with my mom, my good friend Sabrina and her daughter Ana. We will be spending time at the magic kingdom and surrounding kingdoms that seem to have no magic but are fun anyway. We will spend a day in Hollywood (but no night in you know where) at Universal Studios and another day prowling around the seedy-ness of Hollywood Blvd and the plastic glamour of Beverly Hills. Sabrina has threatened that she wants to get a star map, I'm so hoping to avoid that. You will all be in my thougts as I do some advertising for HHW with the wearing of the HHW baseball cap and shirt (never together, that's just silly) and the Benjamine Kritzer jersey. We'll see how many people I get to come to the most popular site on the 'net. Cheers.

Posted by Matthew @ 08/18/2003 04:41 PM PST

Matthew, offer to take Sabrina on a Hollywood Death Tour instead of visiting the stars' homes. That oughtta hold her.

Posted by Lulu @ 08/18/2003 04:44 PM PST

Wow...so many negative vibes
in this room! Everyone think
pleasant thoughts for a while!
While I agree that bk shouldn't
let this findingnamo person
get the better of him, I admire
him for standing up for
Juliana, whether she needed it
or not, it takes a true and loyal
friend to do such a thing, and I
don't doubt that bk would do
the same for any of us
hainsie/kimlets if our names
were to be dragged through
the proverbial mud.
There, I've said my piece, and
that's all I shall say for the
summer.
Let me share some of my
happy news...my ghastly job at
the university dining hall finally
ends tomorrow, and I can't
wait. :-)
More importantly, I don't know
if I've ever mentioned that I've
got a mean stuttering problem
that's been present since I
was very young. But tomorrow
I meet with a clinician to try a
brand new device called a
SpeechEasy device, that
somehow tricks your brain into
not stuttering, using some
techniques that I don't fully
understand. But the part I DO
understand is that if it works, I
shall be free from stuttering at
last! And oh how happy I shall
be...it would set me free as no
other thing in this world could
do. So send me good vibes
tomorrow at 4 pm pacific time!

Posted by Ann @ 08/18/2003 04:47 PM PST

Give a holler when you're in
town. Maybe we can have a
mini hainsies/kimlets
get-together, because it's
get-together weather.

Posted by bk @ 08/18/2003 04:47 PM PST

Good vibes to dear reader
Ann.

Posted by bk @ 08/18/2003 04:49 PM PST

Is anyone else feeling peevish?

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/18/2003 04:49 PM PST

I think someone should develop a sitcom called "Mr. Peevish" and cast me in the title role!

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/18/2003 04:52 PM PST

Red Buttons is feeling
peevish, or so I've heard
through the grapevine.

Posted by bk @ 08/18/2003 04:52 PM PST

The only one who could play
Mr. Peevish is Wally Cox.

Posted by bk @ 08/18/2003 04:53 PM PST

Sometimes all you can do is laugh.

A man living in Newton, Massachusetts, received a bill on his as-yet-unused credit card stating that he owed $0.00. He threw it away. In April he received another and tossed that one, too. The following month the credit card company sent him a nasty note stating they were going to cancel his card if he didn't send them $0.00.

In retrospect, he probably should have let them do that. Instead he called the company and was informed that (are you ready for this?) the problem was the result of a computer error. They told him they'd take care of it.

The following month he reasoned that, if other charges appeared on the card, then it would put an end to his ridiculous predicament. Besides, they assured him the problem would be resolved. So he presented his card for a purchase. It was declined.

Once again he called. He learned that the credit card had been canceled for lack of payment. They apologized for (here it is again) another computer error and promised they would rectify the situation.

The next day he got a bill for $0.00 stating that payment was now overdue. Assuming that this bill was yet another mistake, he ignored it. But the following month he received yet another bill for $0.00 stating that he had ten days to pay his account in full or the company would take necessary steps to recover the debt.

He gave in. He mailed in a check for $0.00. The computer duly processed it and returned a statement to the effect that his account was paid in full.

A week later, the man's bank called him asking him why he wrote a check for $0.00. He explained the problem at length. The bank replied that the $0.00 check had caused their check processing software to fail. The bank could not now process ANY checks from ANY of their customers that day because the check for $0.00 caused a computer crash.

The following month the man received a letter from the credit card company claiming that his check had bounced, that he still owed $0.00 and, unless payment was sent immediately, they would institute procedures to collect his debt.

This man, who had been considering buying his wife a computer for her birthday, bought her a typewriter instead.

Who said, "To err is human, but to really mess things up it takes a computer..."?

Posted by TheDenMother @ 08/18/2003 04:57 PM PST

Susan, JEEPERS CREEPERS is going to be out in September, God willing, and will be loved by all. Say, there's a Susan on the album, too! What an amazing coincidence!

Posted by Richard Valley @ 08/18/2003 05:01 PM PST

I heard that the Susan on the
album was VERY petulant and
said, "But I don't WANT to sing"
Luckily, the puppetmaster's
threat of her being put back in
the bottle did the trick and she
sang with gusto and verve, not
necessarily in that order.

Posted by bk @ 08/18/2003 05:05 PM PST

People, people . . . It must give FindingNamo pleasure, indeed, to see the bickering on our very own site. The disease spreads at a tremendously fast rate! Let's not fall victim to the madness.

Posted by The Den Mother @ 08/18/2003 05:14 PM PST

A petulant Susan? How unseemly!

Posted by Susan @ 08/18/2003 05:16 PM PST

Actually, there hasn't been
much bickering on this here
site, with the exception of one
incendiary post designed to
push Red Buttons.

Otherwise, the discourse has
been the usual smart and fun
stuff. People have had
opinions about the Juliana
situation, and they have stated
them passionately or with
reserve.

I don't know that FindingNamo
would understand the word
"pleasure". :-) That is a
smiley face. It, like so many of
us, consists of a colon, a line,
and a close parens.

Posted by bk @ 08/18/2003 05:18 PM PST

Still no celeb responses in the mail today. It's a tad bit unnerving, but I shall give them time.

Posted by Sarah @ 08/18/2003 05:25 PM PST

Prozac might help.

Posted by The Pharmacist @ 08/18/2003 05:26 PM PST

My grandma takes Prozac so she won't try and kill us. The side effects are great. Last time I saw her, she asked me if I had any extra Valium she could have.

I'm trying to steer clear of that whole suicial murderous druggie grandma type-thing.

But, they do say stuff skips generations...

Posted by Sarah @ 08/18/2003 05:30 PM PST

Yes, Prozac might help - why
don't you go take some and let
us know how it works. :-) That
is a smiley face. Like so many
of us it consists of a colon, a
line, and a close parens. I
might suggest that The
Pharmacist pay special
attention to the colon.

Sarah, mine will be winging its
way to you in the next day or
so. Sans Prozak.

Posted by bk @ 08/18/2003 05:32 PM PST

Prozak? Is that the Polish
version of Prozac?

Posted by bk @ 08/18/2003 05:33 PM PST

Good vibes heading your way, Ann.

On the subject of Chorus Line: a search. I'm trying to locate Jonathan Penzner who, I believe, stage managed a touring production of that show. Can anyone help?

His father was the actor Robert Penn (Paint Your Wagon; Kean), but when I grew up in the Bronx we knew him as Mr. Penzner. He produced a couple of shows at our temple (the first one was called Famishte (mixed-up) Capers, and I always meant to thank him for the excitement he generated. My audition (I Love Paris) was pathetic, but I wound up painting the scenery and having a ball.

Fast forward to Toronto, where I saw that his son, Jonathan, was in town with Chorus Line. I meant to contact him, but didn't - to let him know how supportive and inclusive Mr. Penzner had been.

Posted by Dan-in-Toronto @ 08/18/2003 05:41 PM PST

Sending you early good vibes, Ann!

Sarah--maybe I completely missed something over the last few days, (yes, this brunette has been known to act blonde) but I'm curious. What kind of celebrity responses are you trying to get?

BK--I thought the Sophie Tucker joke was cute. :)

Posted by Maya @ 08/18/2003 05:51 PM PST

Has anyone noticed the lovely
number of posts we have
today? I'm thinkin' we might
reach 132 posts.

Posted by bk @ 08/18/2003 05:58 PM PST

Maya: for my best friends Sweet 16 next year, I'm trying to get as many celebrity autographs as possible. I searched the web, finding valid addresses (i.e., ones that had how long it took, what the address was, and scans of the autographs), and I sent about 40 letters out 3 weeks ago. The only one I know that I'm getting something back from is our own bk. Whats unnerving is that on the sites, most of the days were in under 2 weeks, or just at that. I'm sure something'll come through eventually.

Posted by Sarah @ 08/18/2003 06:01 PM PST

If they don't come through and
turn out to be butt cheeks, I'm
fairly certain that I can get you
some autographs that would
please Aly very much.

Posted by bk @ 08/18/2003 06:03 PM PST

Sarah...

it might be funny if you put a lot of non-famous people's signatures in with those of the famous. You could include some mutual friends and then, when she goes through them in detail, she'll get a pleasant surprise :)

Posted by Emily @ 08/18/2003 06:09 PM PST

That would be tres magnifique! But let's hope it doesn't come to that, as I gave them 9 full months to respond :). If they can't get it together in that amount of time, I might just take you up on that proposition.

Posted by Sarah @ 08/18/2003 06:10 PM PST

...an even MORE pleasanter suprise that is!

:)

Posted by Emily @ 08/18/2003 06:10 PM PST

Sarah--what a wonderful birthday gift for your friend! Cheap too...let me see 37 cents for the stamp times forty...hmm...forget it, my math sucks. ;) Anyway, I'm sure you will get other autographs, and even if you don't, your friend will have BK's sig and will really, really appreciate all the effort too!

I have something of an autograph collection...off the top of my head, I have those of Luise Rainer, Joan Fontaine, Helen Hayes and (wouldn't you know it) Sophie Tucker in addition to the celebrities who have signed playbills for me over the years. What are some of the treasured signatures that you DRs have in your collection?

Posted by Maya @ 08/18/2003 06:10 PM PST

Oooh, good idea...I could take some fancy headshots with my black and white camera and have them pose all dramatic and whatnot. I'm def. doing that.

Posted by Sarah @ 08/18/2003 06:11 PM PST

Ah dear Maya, believe you me it was not cheap. Buying envelopes, stamps, airmail stamps for the overseas bunch, new sharpies when I ran out of ink, more paper when I ran out of that...I'm poor, I tell you, poor.

Actually I'm not poor, I'm just frugal. I have plenty of money, I just hate spending it on something thats going to run out or be thrown away, erg.

Posted by Sarah @ 08/18/2003 06:15 PM PST

Uh, DR Sarah . . . . Do you want my address, too?

Posted by Susan @ 08/18/2003 06:19 PM PST

YEEES please :)

Posted by Sarah @ 08/18/2003 06:20 PM PST

Wally Cox can't be peevish and he cannot play Mr. Peevish! Wally Cox is dead and dead mean don't feel peevish.

Dead men feel all dusty and flaky.

I told you I was feeling peevish!

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/18/2003 06:44 PM PST

Susan sang with Gusto and Verve? I used to love them on THE ED SULLIVAN SHOW!

Okay, Bruce, I've posted three times on your site. It's time you visited Scarlet Street again, isn't it?

I figure it worked when I threatened Chuck Pogue . . .

Posted by Richard Valley @ 08/18/2003 06:51 PM PST

I'm feeling peckish.

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/18/2003 06:58 PM PST

I will visit Scarlet Street again when you publish another of my DVD reviews, or at least include me when you send out the list.

So sad to be all alone in the world.

Sarah....if there is a special autograph your friend would particularly like, you might check EBAY...sometimes you can get some authenticated photos or playbills for just a few dollars!

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/18/2003 07:00 PM PST

I have a letter from my hero composer, Richard Rodgers. He wrote to my mother to thank her for telling him about the birthday party I threw for him when I was 17.

Posted by Noel @ 08/18/2003 07:06 PM PST

So sad to be all alone in the world.

DR JRand, that was a TMM reference! And you delivered it with such feeling!

Posted by Susan @ 08/18/2003 07:14 PM PST

Noel, that's so cool :)

I have just found the perfect song for my range. "An Unexpected Song". The music is SO PRETTY! And the lyrics made me all teary lol, it's so sweet...wah I'm so excited, I just had to tell all :)

Posted by Sarah @ 08/18/2003 07:15 PM PST

Agh Susan that was my exact thought but I didn't know if anyone would get it besides Maya, so I shut up :)

I love TMM...Millie is my DREAM role!

Posted by Sarah @ 08/18/2003 07:16 PM PST

LOL DR Susan.

~~~~~~~~Good vibes to Ann~~~~~~~~~~~~`

And still sending ~~~~~~~~~~ to BK for this week.

I think I will watch TMM the movie now. I haven't watched it in awhile and it always makes me laugh.

"Gee I wish my fronts weren't so full!"

DR Mark Rothman - I think you have stumped us. You are giving great clues...but I just don't remember, although I am sure I will when someone gets the answer.

Time for ice cream. So to order the CD we will have to go to the SS site? There will not be a link here at HHW?

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/18/2003 07:20 PM PST

Noel - how exciting. Do tell us about the party....I have a CD of an interview that Richard Rodgers and Oscar Hammerstein gave shortly before Oscar passed away. It is VERY interesting to hear them talk!

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/18/2003 07:21 PM PST

Sarah, did you remember to include return postage paid envelopes for the celebs to send the autograph back in? That should ensure getting some back!

I used to collect autographs quite regularly throughout the 90s, but haven't done as much lately. I must start doing that again. I have been trying to find some vintage stills or head shots of our esteemed BK and when I do he is going to get a fan letter and autograph request from me! (I have lovely Susan's, which I treasure...along with her father's...hmmm...I think I need to get Flora's too!)

Posted by MBarnum @ 08/18/2003 07:25 PM PST

To DR Ann, lots of good vibes going your way! Hope all goes especially well for you tomorrow.

Posted by The Den Mother @ 08/18/2003 07:26 PM PST

Ditto.

Posted by Susan @ 08/18/2003 07:28 PM PST

I did for the second wave :)
Which was by far the bigger wave of people, I think only about 10 didn't get the envelopes.

-Which, I am very sorry, included bk. I'll pay you back you someday when I'm rich. :)-

Posted by Sarah @ 08/18/2003 07:28 PM PST

All alone, I'm so all alone

Posted by The Den Mother @ 08/18/2003 07:41 PM PST

...I think I've successfully stopped the stupidity over at B'wayworld for a bit. Let's hope that it lasts for a LONG while.

Posted by Sarah @ 08/18/2003 07:42 PM PST

Dear Reader Matthew: Did I miss something? Do you live in LaLaLand?

Dear Reader Ann: Good luck with the consultation tomorrow. I've read that when stutterers sing, they don't stutter. So if things don't work out with the new technology (and I certainly hope they do), you might think about a Plan B in which you live your life as a fully scored opera!

Dear Reader MBarnum: Should you come across any headshots of Guy Haines, that would be a scarce find, indeed. Please do share them with your fellow Hainsies and Kimlets.

Dear BK: I loved your joke.

Now I have joke for everyone. It's the only math joke I know and it's also a Sophie Tucker joke:

When Sophie's boyfriend Ernie reached his 80th birthday, Sophie asked him what he was going to do to celebrate.

"Soph," he replied, "I'm going to marry me a girl of 20."

Sophie pondered this for a moment and responded, "You know what I'm going to do when I turn 80, Ernie?"

"What?"

"I'm going to marry me a boy of 20. And believe you me, 20 goes into 80 a lot more than 80 goes into 20."

Posted by Jay @ 08/18/2003 07:45 PM PST

I also know exactly one accounting joke:

What do you call the CPA who shows up ridiculously late for a soiree and then leaves the event before you know it?

V

V

V

V

[Wait for it]

V

V

V

V

The LIFO of the party.

Posted by Jay @ 08/18/2003 07:52 PM PST

Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!

Those Sophie Tucker jokes are great. God love Bette Midler for putting them out there for a new generation to find!

Peckish, eh, Jack? Peevish and Peckish and Pokish, doo doo-dum sung to the tune of "Wishin' and Hopin' and Prayin'"!

I'm peckish, too, actually. I've a rump roast in my pressure cooker right now with some taters.

I'm pokish cause I'm tarred.

If I were of a mind to, I could sing "The Three P's" (ooh-ooh, a "Best Foot Forward" reference).

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/18/2003 08:10 PM PST

Oh, Jay!

I didn't get your joke!

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/18/2003 08:11 PM PST

Just so you all know what we're dealing with:

The post which says "All alone, I'm so all alone" from Den Mother (dear reader Susan), was not made by her. I'm afraid we have a psychotic in our midst and I will be pulling any posts which are forged.

Posted by bk @ 08/18/2003 08:16 PM PST

Noel--that's so incredible about having a Richard Rodgers letter!

Sarah--Did you hear the Bernadette version of Unexpected Song? I melt inside every time I hear her sing it. Not a Day Goes By sung by Bernie also has the same effect. That "day after day after DaY after DAY" really rips your heart out.

Posted by Maya @ 08/18/2003 08:19 PM PST

Just posting to say that I am "td;" sometimes called Tony, sometimes called Anthony, but only my dear, dear friends call me "Tony Sweetie." (That sounds like it should have been one of the pigeon's names on "Animaniacs").

Posted by td @ 08/18/2003 08:20 PM PST

Ron--don't feel too bad. I didn't get it either ;)

Posted by Maya @ 08/18/2003 08:20 PM PST

Awww, TD...and that would have made the perfect nickname for you :P

Posted by Maya @ 08/18/2003 08:22 PM PST

Ho do we know that was really BK who said he would delete any forged posts?

Posted by TCB @ 08/18/2003 08:24 PM PST

As I stated before, I am real, not psychotic, and I'm only here to learn and have fun with all of you people. If you want, proof, listen to my sound clips. I'm human, I tell you :)

Maya: No I haven't heard it, but I'll try to find it somewhere. It's so gorgeous...

Posted by Sarah @ 08/18/2003 08:27 PM PST

Should I assume that the posts from the dead people are not real?

Posted by Tom from Oz @ 08/18/2003 08:36 PM PST

Sarah, you real gal--give me your snail mail address, and during my spare time I will burn you a Bernadette Peters CD with Unexpected Song and Not a Day Goes By. Capiche?

Posted by Maya @ 08/18/2003 08:37 PM PST

I forgot one of my favorite John Wayne movies - LEGEND OF THE LOST with Sophia Loren and Rossano Brazzi... They are looking for the lost city of gold...kind of like The Lone Ranger only this is in the middle east so it's not the same lost city of gold that Lone Ranger was looking for in the wild west.

Wayne and Loren actually have a great chemistry together.

Matthew don't forget to visit Eddie Brandt's Saturday Matinee...all the movie stills you want! Just be prepared to hunt! MBarnum tells me it's fairly near Universal Studios - where Miss Allison Hayes had her first contract!

Sophie Tucker joke:

Ernie went to the pharmacist to buy some condoms. He said...I am going with a great girl and tonight is the night. Give me a twelve pack. At dinner that night with Sophie and her family, Ernie asked to give the blessing and prayed for more than half an hour. Sophie said, You didn't tell me you were religious. And Ernie replied, You didn't tell me your father was a pharmacist.

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/18/2003 08:38 PM PST

Not necessarily, Tom from Oz

Posted by John Edward @ 08/18/2003 08:39 PM PST

There is something going on that I think you, Dear Readers, need to know about. This is not about the site. Bruce has been protecting me for months and months, but I want to tell you that what is going on is about me and someone who is trying to bait me and cause me problems. Please ignore them, and maybe they'll get tired and go away. Bruce has promised me that he will pull any posts which deal with this situation. It would really be helpful if everyone would use their own name for awhile. (Joke posts are fine; we get those). If this stalker continues to forge posts, then Bruce will pull those, too. Thank you, Dear Readers, for your support.

Posted by Susan, The REAL Den Mother @ 08/18/2003 08:42 PM PST

I'll kick 'em in the shins for you Susan. We've got your back :)

Posted by Sarah @ 08/18/2003 08:45 PM PST

LOL, thanks, DR Sarah. Now I feel safe again.

Posted by Susan @ 08/18/2003 08:46 PM PST

DR Jay, I WISHED I lived in LaLa land, but alas, I live in the SF Bay Area. I try to visit down south as much as possible. Perhaps on my next solo trip, we could do a mini get together. Off to pack.

Posted by Matthew @ 08/18/2003 08:46 PM PST

Susan - I know where we can get some really BIG grasshoppers!

Posted by Audrey Aimes @ 08/18/2003 08:46 PM PST

I think that was very courageous of dear reader Susan to come forth like that. We are dealing with a psychotic here, whose fondest desire would be to get Susan so nerve-wracked or me so angry that I shut down the site. Well, that won't be happening, bucko. And do you know why?

Because we are Hainsies hear us roar
In numbers too big to ignore

So, take your sick self and get some help baby - you will not bring us down. We have weathered your various storms before and we'll weather them again. Now, isn't that RICH?

Posted by bk @ 08/18/2003 08:52 PM PST

Lovely Lady, I think that Joan Collins could rassle up a few GIANT ants for you . . .

Posted by td @ 08/18/2003 08:53 PM PST

On a completely different note (C#), look at this lovely number of posts. Will we make it to two hundred?

Posted by bk @ 08/18/2003 08:54 PM PST

. . .then again, Miss Elizabeth Taylor could rassle up a GIANT.

No Groaning on HHW!

Posted by td @ 08/18/2003 08:55 PM PST

Susan--I'm so sorry to hear about your problem with that psycho. But Sarah, BK and TD are right...no one's gonna harm you, not while we're around :)

Posted by Maya @ 08/18/2003 08:56 PM PST

Of course we'll make it to two hundred posts!

Posted by td @ 08/18/2003 08:56 PM PST

Anyone posts anything nasty to our Susan and I shall sing quite loudly "AT LAST MY ARM IS COMPLETE AGAIN!"

Posted by bk @ 08/18/2003 09:03 PM PST

I'll assume that those of you who said you didn't get my joke were referring to the accounting joke and NOT the Sophie Tucker 20 goes into 80 joke. "LIFO" is an accounting term that has to do with the aging of inventory. It's an acronym for "Last In First Out." As I said, it was an accounting joke. With a very limited audience.

I have plenty of other Sophie Tucker jokes that I have no doubt you WOULD get, but this is a family site and I was pushing my luck with the one I've already posted.

Posted by Jay @ 08/18/2003 09:03 PM PST

There's always the "tombstone buying" Sophie Tucker joke. . .

Of the "Get that motorcyclist outta there first" joke. . .

Posted by td @ 08/18/2003 09:11 PM PST

Thanks for the protezione, guys! :-)

Posted by Susan @ 08/18/2003 09:26 PM PST

I saw A Chorus Line at The Schubert Theater in Century City with the original cast. The standout in the show for me was the dancing of Donna McKechnie. I have never seen any dancer use her arms the way she did. It's hard for me to describe in words, but . . . they absolutely flowed from the center of her body. I can still see her alone on that stage with one leg in demi-plie, the other leg extended, and her arms hanging loosely to her sides. When she raised her arms, it was like they extended from the very center of her torso. The did not appear to be separate appendages. The effect was electric! The most exciting dancing I have ever seen - and something, I believe, you can only experience at a live performance.

There are some dancers (like Savion Glover, for instance) who dance from the waist down. The arms are left to react naturally with no set choreography. Granted that is a style of dance but, to me, it's not very interesting to watch. The attention is so focused on the floor that there is no real communication with the audience. The overall effect (IMO) is flat.

Another Chorus Line memory is my reaction to the character of Zach. I HATED HIS GUTS! All those games he played with everybody's feelings! I wanted to strangle him!

Posted by Donna @ 08/18/2003 09:27 PM PST

As an Accounting teacher (retired) I appreciated the joke Jay. Always preferred FIFO but my students thought it was the name of my dog.

Posted by Tom from Oz @ 08/18/2003 09:40 PM PST

C'mon, we can do it. I think I can, I think I can, I think I think I think I can

Posted by bk @ 08/18/2003 10:00 PM PST

Hey Sarah, when you are collecting autographs, be sure and get Jason's and Don's

Posted by TCB @ 08/18/2003 10:04 PM PST

192 posts? Would that be for the whole month of August? Oh, sorry, I forgot I was on the most popular site on the internet.

Posted by TCB @ 08/18/2003 10:06 PM PST

Joke Time!

What Lies At The Bottom Of The Ocean And Twitches?

A Nervous Wreck.

hahahahahahaha

:-)

Posted by The Den Mother @ 08/18/2003 10:09 PM PST

Come on guys, we can make 200!!! Where is WEL and his pom poms when we need them?

Posted by TCB @ 08/18/2003 10:10 PM PST

Now it's your turn to guess this one:

What do you call four bullfighters in quicksand?

Posted by The Den Mother @ 08/18/2003 10:11 PM PST

Hmm, quatro sinko?

Posted by TCB @ 08/18/2003 10:15 PM PST

Ha ha ha, right! OK TCB, next one:

What do you call cheese that isn't yours?

Posted by The Den Mother @ 08/18/2003 10:18 PM PST

What does a fish say when it runs into a concrete wall?

DAMN!

I was just picking out which Bruce-produced album I want my parents to accidentally buy me with their credit card (mwahaha) and I heard some very nice clips of Guy Haines singing. His voice is beautiful :)

Goodnight all.

Posted by Sarah @ 08/18/2003 10:19 PM PST

Nacho cheese?

Posted by TCB @ 08/18/2003 10:21 PM PST

OK, we're over 200 posts. Now, I can go to sleep.

G'nite kids!

Posted by The Den Mother @ 08/18/2003 10:29 PM PST

Sarah -- I LOVE Guy Haines' voice. I think it is very sexy.

Posted by Laura @ 08/18/2003 10:31 PM PST

DR Susan -- I just want you to know that you are in our thoughts, our very best wishes and vibes, and we send you a big long-distance hug! I also encircle you with a powerful aura of white, pure light...you are protected, you are safe, and you are loved.

Don't Mess With The MOPPETT !! Not while we're around!

BK -- you're a Prince!

Posted by MusicGuy @ 08/18/2003 10:35 PM PST

I hope I'm not posting old news here, but I just read something very scary and funny at the same time.

Rob Lowe is going to be Scharzenegger's running mate! Tell me it's a joke!

And oh yes, Guy Haines does have a lovely voice.

Posted by Maya @ 08/18/2003 10:44 PM PST

I'm smiling at the thought of Bruce running into Rick Mason in Shubert Alley. A lovely thought of two friends of mine. And seeing Chorus Line affected me the same way. I sat on a bench crying for an hour after the show I had been so moved.

A favorite joke (from Moms Mabley-- and it really helps if you can picture her saying this):

"I was walking down the street with my friend the other day, and she said 'Do you smell hair burning?' And I said 'Maybe I'm walking too fast.'"

Posted by Kerry @ 08/18/2003 10:44 PM PST

Of COURSE Rob Lowe's "advising" Schwarzenegger. Arnie wants the voters to take him SERIOUSLY, doesn't he?

I can't believe I'm logging on this late again. I'm not even an Australian.

Speaking of Australians, whenever BK mentions "the Oaks of Sherman," I picture Errol Flynn swinging in on a rope, tipping his green feathered-cap and saying, "Welcome to Sherman, milady!" Is it just me?

Posted by Sigerson Holmes @ 08/18/2003 11:57 PM PST

It is news to me that 'The Den Mother' is someone's actual moniker at this here site. I assumed it was a comical name that anyone could post under, and that's what I did.

Posted by Matt @ 08/19/2003 03:22 AM PST

DR Matt, thank you for identifying your post. I am relieved that it was only you. Following a previous number of taunting posts towards me, your Den Mother post was a bit discomforting. Would we be able to register our monikers here, this kind of misunderstanding could not happen.

Posted by Susan @ 08/19/2003 04:31 AM PST

Don't thank me. We met at an autograph show in NYC and, consequently, I found this here site soon thereafter. As you were so quick to brand me a 'stalker' and a 'psychotic' for a harmless post, you now have one less fan in the world. BTW, I may have also been responsible for some of the previous posts that you assumed were 'taunting posts'. I was of the impression that goofball posts are the norm for this messageboard (I refer you to your own remark to prove my point - "Joke posts are fine; we get those") I have directed numerous goofy posts at you and a few of the other DRs of this site. It was done in a playful manner but, obviously, there is an undercurrent of paranoia which grips this messageboard. I want no part of it. I have removed this site from my Favorite Places and, unlike 'Ahnold', I won't be back.

Exeunt.

Posted by Matt @ 08/19/2003 05:14 AM PST

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm........

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/19/2003 05:20 AM PST

You can say THAT again, Jrand52!

Hmmmmmmmm. . . such intrigue!
Such unmasking! Worthy of music by Andrew Lloyd Webber!
Where's the chandelier?!?!?

Posted by td @ 08/19/2003 05:50 AM PST

Matt, please don't misunderstand. I am sure you are not responsible for the taunting posts I mentioned. Those were not done in jest. It is unfortunate that a few such posts can make one paranoid about other innocent posts. I am really sorry this has happened. You have been a Dear Reader at this site and the 'stalker' or 'psychotic' references were not directed at you.

Posted by Susan @ 08/19/2003 05:54 AM PST

Good Morning, Lovely Lady!

Posted by td @ 08/19/2003 06:02 AM PST

Ann - good luck tomorrow at the clinician's!

Jay - Heard that one during a Bette Midler concert - still makes me laugh though!

Susan - sounds like there have been a lot of misunderstandings here at HHW. Sorry Matt didn't understand what's been going on. Hopefully he'll come around. But in any event - as well put by another DR tonight - we look out for each other.

Posted by Phil @ 08/19/2003 06:03 AM PST

Good Morning, TD (aka Tony Sweetie). I hope this day turns out to be better than the way it started.

Posted by Susan @ 08/19/2003 06:05 AM PST

Thanks, Phil. It's nice to know there are people who care.

Posted by Susan @ 08/19/2003 06:07 AM PST

Ron-

It's THE THREE B's not P's(a Best Foot Forward reference)

Posted by Arnold M. Brockman @ 08/19/2003 06:12 AM PST

Gosh, I know I'm old, and I haven't been able to attend a chat for weeks now, but I don't know what's going on with this stalker. Suffice to say the "Matt" in some above postings was not I. DR Susan, I hope you know that.

Posted by Matt H. @ 08/19/2003 06:17 AM PST

Just finished a long chat with a DR who is more "in the know" than I am and now have a better understanding of what is going on at this here site.

DM... my post in Yiddish was directed to the person who was posting as 'Den Mother'. I was being humorous - noting my envy of all of the fun that the 'Den Mother' had with Jason and Don. When I posted the Yiddish comment I was not sure that YOU were the ONLY person who posts as 'Den Mother' (apparently, I had missed the Post where that was announced?). I thought that you might be the person who was posting as 'Den Mother' but was uncertain, so my use of Yiddish was my cutesy way of guessing your identity. Your post, yesterday, under your real name in which you said "ditto" left me with the impression that you were NOT 'Den Mother'.

My post in Yiddish wasn't meant as a taunt of you (or of anyone). Maybe something got lost in the translation? Here is my precise meaning (in English):

"It's a shame for all of us H/Ks (di kinder) who missed out on all the fun you had in the Poconos! My ears have heard enough (genug iz genug)!"

Perhaps my command of Yiddish was not strong enough to pull off such a complicated thought? I am neither a 'stalker' nor a 'psychotic'.

Posted by Matt @ 08/19/2003 06:54 AM PST

Will there really be a morning?
Is there such a thing as day?
Could I see it from the mountains
If I were as tall as they?

Has it feet like water lillies?
Has it feathers like a bird?
Does it come from famous places
Of which I've never heard?

Oh some scholar, oh some sailor
Oh some wise man from the skies
Please to tell this little pilgrim
Where the place called morning lies.

Emily Dickenson

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/19/2003 06:57 AM PST

Dickinson, that is.

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/19/2003 07:00 AM PST

"Matt" - no dear reader "told" you the situation because no dear reader really knows the situation. They only know there's a stalker, and I've been saying that for over six months. I've said it loud and I've said it clear. Furthermore, your explanation of the Yiddish you wrote is hooey. What you wrote is "It's a scandal for the children. Enough is enough." If you don't have a command of Yiddish, and you didn't know that Den Mother was Susan, why did you write it in Yiddish in the first place? Given your other posts, I would have to say that very little of this makes sense. Or, it makes total sense, depending on how you look at it. But, you've said you now "understand" the situation, so that means we should have no more "joke" posts from you under any name, and that the posts you make under the name of "Matt" will be in keeping with the kinds of posts that are made here at HHW. We have two other "Matts" here - MattH and Matthew. Just as when we had a "Jay" in chat long ago, a "Jay" we all thought was our "Jay" only it wasn't our "Jay" it was the psycho. So, we're all a little leery of a lot of things here.

Posted by bk @ 08/19/2003 08:22 AM PST

"Matt" - no dear reader "told" you the situation because no dear reader really knows the situation. They only know there's a stalker, and I've been saying that for over six months. I've said it loud and I've said it clear. Furthermore, your explanation of the Yiddish you wrote is hooey. What you wrote is "It's a scandal for the children. Enough is enough." If you don't have a command of Yiddish, and you didn't know that Den Mother was Susan, why did you write it in Yiddish in the first place? Given your other posts, I would have to say that very little of this makes sense. Or, it makes total sense, depending on how you look at it. But, you've said you now "understand" the situation, so that means we should have no more "joke" posts from you under any name, and that the posts you make under the name of "Matt" will be in keeping with the kinds of posts that are made here at HHW. We have two other "Matts" here - MattH and Matthew. Just as when we had a "Jay" in chat long ago, a "Jay" we all thought was our "Jay" only it wasn't our "Jay" it was the psycho. So, we're all a little leery of a lot of things here.

Posted by bk @ 08/19/2003 08:23 AM PST

for Dan-in-Toronto

Jonathan Penzner's address is 18047
Collins Street, Encino, CA.

Posted by info tunes @ 09/21/2003 05:55 AM PST

for Dan-in-Toronto

Jonathan Penzner's address is 18047
Collins Street, Encino, CA.

Posted by info @ 09/21/2003 05:57 AM PST