Posted by MusicGuy @ 08/19/2003 08:18 AM PST

Emily - lovely dinner party.

Peter Palmer, of course, did his own singing (he starred in the Broadway show). Leslie didn't do her own singing - I used to know who it was, but maybe a dear reader can chime in with that info.

Finally, I hadn't read the late posts of yesterday before I posted the new notes. There were some rather shocking revelations which I have addressed in a post at the end of yesterday's notes. Again, things are not what they appear to be, and it's just part of the same BS we've been dealing with for a year. So, please take a look so you have a better knowledge of things. And then, of course, don't feed the animal.
Thank you.

Posted by bk @ 08/19/2003 08:28 AM PST

Shandeh means 'shame' not 'scandal'. As in - "it's a shame we couldn't join you". As for why I opted to use Yiddish, I explained that already.

Posted by Matt @ 08/19/2003 08:30 AM PST

As there was no successful guess to my trivia question, there was no winner. Perhaps it was just too hard. I appreciate Jr. and 52 for at least racking his brain over it. Perhaps others did, but did not express themselves about it.
The question: Every year, I mean EVERY year of the Tony awards broadcasts, Elliot Lawrence has shlepped out the same music cues for play-ons for generic celebrities.
The four that I remember are:
Once Upon a Time (All-American)

I'll Buy you a Star (A Tree Grows in Brooklyn)

Comes Once in a Lifetime (Subways
Are For Sleeping)

and What a Day (On the Town)

If Elliot Lawrence is there again next year, and he hasn't read this post, you can bet your house that you'll hear them again.

Posted by Mark Rothman @ 08/19/2003 08:34 AM PST

Hmmm.....how about BK, Susan, our own Juliana, and FindingNamo.

.....at Joe Allen's of course

.....and we'll all have Cobb salad, washed down with Diet Coke.....

:-)

Posted by Phil @ 08/19/2003 08:37 AM PST

OMG... Phil!!

ROTFLMAO

:)

Posted by Emily @ 08/19/2003 08:46 AM PST

Thanks for the new name, Mark! I think I will form a band.

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Good vibes from Indiana!

I would like have a dinner for the Misses Carroll Baker, Mara Corday, and Dorothy Provine.

We would have Chinese Food with Diet Pepsi and/or iced tea. For dessert, fortune cookies, of course.

We would talk about movies, and tv shows, and the affairs of the world. And because we wanted to able to have a conversation, not listen to a monolog, Miss Betty Hutton would join us after dinner for an evening wrap up.

MR BK please give me the name of the CD you produced that features Dame Edna - we are going to see her in November, and I want to wave the CD in the air when she comes onstage!

Posted by Jr. and 52 @ 08/19/2003 08:59 AM PST

Well I've been trying to catch up on all the happenings around here. I'm not sure I understand it all. But I'd like to wish good vibes to DRs Ann and Susan.

Jennifer

Posted by Jennifer @ 08/19/2003 09:00 AM PST

A dinner party? With living guests? You know, the advantage of having guests that are corpses is that you get to eat more of the food yourself. But I digress.

Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton Say what you want about the Clintons, they would still be interesting dinner guests

Barbra Streisand and James Brolin I find her a fascinating women and he must have a keen mind or she would never have been attracted to him.

Angela Lansbury I absolutely adore this woman, and she has such a history in the entertainment industry.

Stephen Sondheim Just because.

Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson I think they would be fun.

George Clooney No, he doesn’t get to bring a date. It’s my dinner party, damn it, I make the rules.

As for what to serve, isn't that why we have caterers?

But you can be sure there would Lentil for Barbra, meat pies for Angela and Stephen, a box of chocolate for the Hanks, ham for Mr. Clooney, oh and, goose for the Clintons (sorry, I couldn’t resist).

Posted by TCB @ 08/19/2003 09:05 AM PST

(I wrote most of this yesterday, but it didn't post, so I'll try again...)

Yesterday, BK wrote...

"It actually sounds
like you are trying to defend
him and it sounds like you are
implying that he is posting all
this stuff just to get a rise out
of me. "

I want to be clear that I am not defending Namo, but I do believe that much of what he posts is intended to get a rise out of you, and it has clearly worked. So glad you are opting to take Mark Bakalor's advice (if not mine), and ignore him.

My reason for suggesting that his real issue is with you and not with Juliana comes from a reading of his posts directed toward the two of you. Namo's comments about Juliana may be sarcastic or even condescending, but it is at least possible to make the argument that he does not mean to be insulting toward her. Contrast that to the comments he directs towards BK, in which his contempt is not in the least bit veiled.

"But in your
world it's MY fault that he
posts. I get it now. "

No, it is not your fault that he posts, but you have contributed to the frenzy by feeding the flames. Let's be honest - your posts were not intended merely to "defend Juliana", but also to attack Namo. References to Namo's colon, among other things, do not help your cause. But your comment from yesterday was a broad swipe at the message board in general, despite the fact that many of the readers of that site have been very vocal in their support of Juliana.

Again, I am glad you have chosen to take the high road. Let the baby have his bottle.

"You know,
the way in which you phrase
all this stuff, Dave, why it
almost makes me think that
YOU are FindingNamo, since
you have, on occasion, taken
great delight in "pushing my
buttons".

1) I am not FindingNamo. I would never even have known about that message board had it not been for the fact that BK has directed us there on several occasions. Ironic, isn't it?

2) I have already addressed the accusations about "pushing buttons" numerous times in the past, and don't feel the need to defend myself yet again.

"And aren't you being rather
disingenuous yourself when
you ask who OM Time is? I
think you know very well who
OM Time is, especially as OM
Time has basically stated who
he was. "

If OM Time posted his/her identity, I must have missed it. And certainly the events of the past 24 hours reveal that not everyone is who they appear to be, even when they claim to be who they don't appear to be. So if people want to clear up the mystery, I'd be curious to see the riddle unraveled.

I won't respond to the other question asked of me, as that would just open up a can of worms that was just closed. If BK would like to email me privately to discuss the matter, he may do so at his leisure. But seriously, I think we have given too much press to Namo, and I think we should let sleeping dogs lie. (pun intended)

Posted by Dave @ 08/19/2003 09:07 AM PST

Imogene Lynn sang for Miss Leslie Parrish in LIL ABNER. She also sang for Vera Miles in BEAU JAMES, among others. She sand for Mona Freeman in a couple of films as well.

You know, sometimes I read posts and I don't know what's going on. Just when you think everything is going along fine: HIROSHIMA, MON AMOUR! Oh well...

The Production of MOBY DICK featuring DR Kurt got a rather scathing review (although he came out okay)...but hearing him talk about it, it could have been worse!

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/19/2003 09:17 AM PST

sand=sang

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/19/2003 09:18 AM PST

Thank you Jrand, I knew
someone would know who
sang for my darling Leslie
Parrish.

And where IS Leslie Parrish?
Free dinner at a sparkling
restaurant for the first to find
out.

Posted by bk @ 08/19/2003 09:21 AM PST

If Leslie Parrish had married Troy Donahue (perish the thought) could she then have been called Parish Parrish?

Posted by TCB @ 08/19/2003 09:29 AM PST

It's raining!!!!!!!! And our stupid city is out of gas, so gas lines are reminiscent of the 1974 and 1980. Prices are higher though than the last gas crunch.

Posted by Kerry @ 08/19/2003 09:31 AM PST

I'll respond about my dinner party in a little while. So far today, I have ingested a glass of cranberry juice and a bowl of toasted oatmeal flakes with sliced banana and soy milk.

Posted by Jay @ 08/19/2003 09:33 AM PST

Jay,

Your obsession with food sends out the wrong message to younger readers at this site... ;-)

Sad to say, I was called into work before I even got to have breakfast, so I have yet to eat *anything* today. As you might guess, I'm starving right now, so please lay off the food talk for a while, okay? ;-)

Posted by Dave @ 08/19/2003 09:36 AM PST

TCB -

excellent guest. Just think - if someone got murdered at your dinner party, you'd have Jessica Fletcher on hand to sort it all out!

Posted by Craig @ 08/19/2003 09:41 AM PST

Just took a walk around Grant's Tomb. More of New York should be like this: the wilds of Riverside Park, beneath the big, airy hill on which the tomb is set, and then the flat square Sakura Park, which includes a statue of the man who wrote Taps. Apropos of that, Riverside Church had a funeral in progress, so I didn't venture in.

I wish there could be a definition, with quoted examples, of what sort of post is unwelcome on this board. No one likes to step on a landmine, and all of us appreciate the calm we're accustomed to here.

When I was around Sarah's age, I invited about a dozen friends over on Richard Rodgers' birthday, and we sang around the piano all evening, never running out of good songs to sing. Our high school had done Carousel and Allegro recently, so everyone was up on those scores. I'd gone to the library to check out as many scores as I could, including Babes In Arms, Pal Joey, No Strings, Do I Hear a Waltz and Pipe Dream. And of course we owned both the Rodgers and Hammerstein and Rodgers and Hart songbooks.

My mother never writes fan letters, but felt RR would like to know about the teen party he wasn't present for, and he wrote back to say her letter brought him more joy than a recent White House lawn concert had. I'm told that Rodgers rarely answered fan mail, so the framed letter on my wall is a very special day. I mean thing.

Posted by Noel @ 08/19/2003 09:48 AM PST

Blueberry pancakes, french toast, mushroom crepes, and a rasher of bacon.

Posted by Julia Child @ 08/19/2003 09:51 AM PST

When I was Sarah's age, my high school wanted to do Oklahoma. Unfortunately, it hadn't been written yet.

Posted by TCB @ 08/19/2003 09:54 AM PST

You're making me HUNGRY. I
have thus far had a Diet Coke.
I may or may not be able to
take lunch today, because I
may or may not have to run an
errand. However, since the
errand is a good one, I do
hope to be running it. But the
errand might not need to be
run until the end of the day, or
even in the morning, but damn
them, damn them all to hell,
the errand WILL be run SOON.

Posted by bk @ 08/19/2003 09:58 AM PST

Between sentences, I am drinking a tall glass of chocolate milk, my first meal of the day.

Just reading about Bill Clinton, I am reminded that he is blowing out 57 candles today. I remember this because he shares a birthday with my staunch Republican uncle of the same age. As a (more or less) political neutral, I love the irony. Clinton would make an excellent dinner party guest, but my uncle would have to be there, too.

Tipper Gore's birthday is also today. John Stamos, the incoming Guido Contini, turns the big 4-0! I'm inviting both to the dinner party as well. Orville Wright turns 132 today. It would be worth having his corpse there if not only just to brag on the fact that you had one of the Wright brothers at your dinner party. The cast of THE DINNER PARTY is invited to the dinner party as well. Maybe Neil Simon, too. But especially Ritter and Winkler.

What is Sarah's age? I'd love to make a "When I was Sarah's age..." comment, but I doubt I've even been there yet.

Posted by Paulie @ 08/19/2003 10:02 AM PST

When I was Sarah's age, I was much older.

Posted by Dave @ 08/19/2003 10:08 AM PST

Since "FindingNamo" never posts on this here board (at least not under that name) the easiest thing to do is just read HHW and not read his board since it is so upsetting to some. I would never have read his posts if the suggestion to do so were was not posted here in the first place and I shall ignore that site --- or at least those threads --- in the future. Since I was only at chat for a while Sunday is "Coloured Lights" the same person as "FindingNamo" or was it someone from that other label trying to spy?

On a totally different topic, Tony Winner Tonya Pinkens is now on welfare and is #4 in NYC's list of deadbeat parents based on the amount of back child support they owe (she is the only woman in the top 10). I find that a little hard to believe. JELLY'S had a fairly decent run and she was on a couple of soaps for years each. How could this happen?

Posted by William E. Lurie @ 08/19/2003 10:11 AM PST

DR Craig...what do you mean "if" there was a murder at dinner?

Everyplace Jessica Fletcher went - there was M U R D E R!! My guess would be that George Clooney would be the victim at TCB's party ... and while one of the Clintons might be guilty, no one could prove it....not even Jessica.

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/19/2003 10:14 AM PST

Wow about Tonya Pinkens. I
worked with her when I did the
album of Play On! and she
was very sweet.

I totally forgot that today is
Bagel Day at work, so I'm now
eating a lovely sesame bagel
with cream cheese.

Posted by bk @ 08/19/2003 10:14 AM PST

Bill - I imagine Tonya is asking herself that same question.

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/19/2003 10:15 AM PST

WEL, strong advice.

I posted to the chat as "Coloured Lights", and identified myself a few times.

Wasn't Tonya Pinkins also in THE WILD PARTY just a couple of seasons ago?

Posted by Dave @ 08/19/2003 10:18 AM PST

NO, please, anyone but George!

Posted by TCB @ 08/19/2003 10:20 AM PST

This internet war stuff is getting very dull, very dull indeed, and it is suffusing this page with negative vibes. Let us end it starting right.........
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NOW.

There. Now, I have some catching up to do.

First, here's what I've ingested today:

*A Sunset Orange Smoothie from Pax (lovely banana flavor, smooth banana, not the chalky, papery banana you sometimes get, mixed with smooth luscious OJ and non-fat frozen yogurt, skim milk, and a dash of that powdery stuff Juliana mentions in her journal. What IS that stuff, anyway?)

* A small Yankee Bean soup, which was disappointing since my local soup place is usually mouthwatering

* A Greek salad, hold the grape leaves, with Extra-Virgin Olive Oil and Red Wine Vinegar.

Tonight for dinner I plan to have grilled chicken on a plate of greens with Balsamic Vinaigrette. And perhaps an air cone (you know, those non-fat, low-calorie soft-serve over-hyphenated "ice cream" places with all the daily flavors? There can be nothing in it but air, I tell you) after my intense workout at the gym.

DINNER PARTY:
I'd invite all of you! I would ask for ID and you'd have to answer questions only you would know, so as to avoid any mistaken identities. The menu would consist of steaks and veggie burgers on the grill, roasted corn on the cob, raw veggies, mashed potatoes, cole slaw, ice cream sundaes (decorate your own), and lots and lots of Jack Daniels, cabernet, pouilly fuisse, and Saranac Trail Mix beer.

We would sit around and eat, sing songs at the piano, and get yelled at by the neighbors for having too much fun. Of course, I don't have a grill, but I do have a George Foreman!

Posted by Joy @ 08/19/2003 10:21 AM PST

Didn't Tonya Pinkins star in Psycho,?

Posted by Vera Miles @ 08/19/2003 10:21 AM PST

Who is Tonya Pinkins?

Posted by TCB @ 08/19/2003 10:25 AM PST

Joy: I'll bring the Chex mix!

Posted by Lulu @ 08/19/2003 10:36 AM PST

Noel - what a swell party that was! And a letter!

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/19/2003 10:36 AM PST

I guess I wasn't clear enough
in the notes - let's move on re
certain topics. No more
rehashing.

Oooh, hash - maybe I'll have
me some corned-beef hash.

Hash is a fun word to say in a
Carol Channing voice. Let's
all say hash using our Carol
Channing voices - one, two,
three: Haaaaaash.

Very good. More dinner
parties, please.

Posted by bk @ 08/19/2003 10:37 AM PST

Paulie, my age is 15, 16 in *counts* 12 days!

If I were to have a dinner party, I'd invite BK, because he makes me laugh, Conan O'Brien, because he makes me laugh, Jim Carrey, because he makes me laugh, my friend Cheri because she makes me laugh, my science teacher last year because he was hot, and he makes me laugh, and my parents, because they could do with a laugh. We would go out to Ruth's Chris, because I can't cook for beans :) And there we would have filet mignon, garlic mashed potatoes, salad, and the dessert of your choice (New York Cheescake is the best)

I love to laugh! (Oh, a Mary Poppins reference.)

As of right now, I've had a cup of coffee, and a turkey sandwich, and in the midst of tying, I'm drinking on orange Fanta. I'm also belting out "I'm The Greatest Star" at the top of my lungs, and more than likely making the people who are outside my room,painting my house, crazy. But I'm not so sure they speak English, so they can't tell me to stop!

If I have to watch another episode of "The Wiggles" for at least a year, I think I might keel over. I cannot stand the Wiggles. That stupid song "Fruit Salad", I know all of the words. And I didn't know ANY of the words before 8 this morning!

No celeb replies today...

Posted by Sarah @ 08/19/2003 10:40 AM PST

"Hash Hash Sweet Charlotte"

Posted by TCB @ 08/19/2003 10:40 AM PST

Tying = Typing :)

Posted by Sarah @ 08/19/2003 10:41 AM PST

My dinner party guests:

Hillary Clinton
Walter Cronkite
William Finn
Renee Fleming
David Hockney
Terrence McNally
Sam Mendes
Stephen Sondheim
Barbra Steisand
Elaine Stritch
Peter Ueberroth

The menu:

--Cold vichyssoise
--A seafood melange lightly bound by a fresh mayonaise, atop sliced avocado, served with a fine Chardonnay
--Rack of lamb in a mustard and breadcrumb crust, complemented by garlic mashed potatoes and steamed baby vegetables, accompanied by a great Zinfandel
--Chocolate souffle with raspberry sauce and fresh whipped cream, accompanied by coffee

Michael Feinstein will provide the post-dinner entertainment, after which Barbra, Renee and Bill be enticed to sing a few numbers themselves.

Posted by Jay @ 08/19/2003 10:44 AM PST

Oops. Frank Gehry was somehow omitted from my invitation list. And Elaine will sing a couple of songs after dinner, too.

Posted by Jay @ 08/19/2003 10:46 AM PST

BK, I am glad to hear you're having a bagel, because I was really starting to be concerned about your eating habits. You are exhibiting the classic behavioral signs of anorexia!
;o) You too, Paulie, chocolate milk for a meal?? Well, I do hope it's skim, or you will be a lousy anorexic!

;o) ;o) ;o) ;o) ;o) ;o) ;o) ;o) ;o) ;o)

Tonya Pinkins was indeed in LaChiusa's Wild Party. That was when I was working at the General Management office for that show, and she kept her boxes piled up there for several days while she was moving to New York. She was really nice, though, and wickedly delightful in the show.

Another memory from working on that show: I was given the task of finding organic paint for Toni Collete's dressing room. I searched high and low and couldn't find it; I even resorted to getting her on the phone and asking her what the hell it was. I finally found some milk-based paint or something like that, and she seemed to like it. She was very patient with me and genuinely sweet, I really liked her. And, of course, she's a phenomenal actress.

Noel, did your visit to Grant's tomb enlighten you as to who is buried there?

Sarah, you remind me so much of myself at your age, especially your post yesterday about "Unexpected Song". Boy, I'm going to miss you when school starts!

Posted by Joy @ 08/19/2003 10:49 AM PST

I was bound by a fresh
mayonaise once. The nerve. I
said to the mayonnaise, "You
are so fresh, binding me like
this." The mayonaise replied,
"Shut up or you will get a
whipping." The mayonaise
proceeded to whip me - it was
a miracle I was alive after the
whip - a miracle whip when
you think about it, which I don't.
What the HELL am I talking
about.

I was also bound by a rather
interesting broccoli once.

Posted by bk @ 08/19/2003 10:54 AM PST

Theme of my party would be "Why did you ever break up?" and guests would include:

Sheldon Harnick and Jerry Bock
Mike Nichols and Elaine May
Carl Reiner and Mel Brooks
Ringo Starr and Paul McCartney
Diane Keaton and Woody Allen
John Cleese and Eric Idle (I wouldn't have ALL of Monty Python as I'm not as fond of the others. None can touch the late Graham Chapman, though.)

I'd serve chestnuts, roasting on an open fire. Chin Chin's chinese chicken salad in huge quantities. Veal so tender it tears apart. Unusual fruit sorbets.

And that beautiful DR who recently joined our brood, she of the lacy boyshorts, although she'll never fit into the "Why'd you two break up" category.

Posted by Noel @ 08/19/2003 10:56 AM PST

My dinner party would be all
you lovely dear readers (no
Uncouth Interlopers invited) - I
would make my famous Beef
Strogonoff over noodles,
salad, rolls, and a big
Parisienne Cake for dessert.
Let's DO it!

Posted by bk @ 08/19/2003 11:02 AM PST

Revisited Books:

The Chronicles of Narnia (all of them, many many times each)

The Stand, by Stephen King

Executive Orders, by Tom Clancy. I was compelled to read that one again after 9/11 and was spooked by the accuracy of it. A terrorist flies a plane into the Capitol building during the State of the Union address. Our hero, Harrison...er, Jack Ryan, who has just been appointed Vice-President after a scandal, is promoted and has to deal with an outbreak of Ebola virus (also the work of terrorists), political mayhem, rebuilding the government, and finding the terrorists.

Of course, he had a lot more success than our guy.

"When I was Sarah's age..."
...I used to run around belting things at the top of my lungs, too. Mostly "Adelaide's Lament", "I Will Always Love You", "Waiting for Life", and "Holding to the Ground". People in college used to give me so much guff about it.

Did I just say "guff"?

Posted by Joy @ 08/19/2003 11:05 AM PST

For the person who asked who Tonya Pinken was, click on my name for her Broadway credits. She was also on ALL MY CHILDREN for several years as Olivia Fry Cudahy and another soap prior to that.

Posted by William E. Lurie @ 08/19/2003 11:06 AM PST

I feel compelled by a sense of duty to report that I have also just had a spoonful of reduced fat peanut butter (super chunk) and a cup of ginger/lemon tea, with which I almost did a spit take while reading BK's story about bonding with the mayonnaise.

Love Chin-Chin's chinese chicken salad; but, DR Noel, can we send everyone home after dinner and save the dessert for just the two of us? I'll wear my lacy boyshorts...

Posted by Joy @ 08/19/2003 11:10 AM PST

I just got an e-mail from Hinky
Meltz, Jr. Here it is:

Dear Mr. K.

Thank you for printing my
father's song, I Don't Know
Why, I Just Don't. Do you
realize that you have only
printed the lyrics? Why do you
not print the music, too. The
inverted sixths in this song are
quite remarkable, as are the
flatted thirteenths. Also, in
your posts of today no one has
commented on the song? Do
your readers actually read your
notes or do they skip right to
the posts? If that's the case,
might I suggest fooling them
by posting the notes in the
posts, at least when printing
the songs of Meltz and Ernest.
My father wrote notes, too,
especially in the key of G#.
That was his favorite key. He
liked it much better than Ab,
which was his least favorite
key. Again, thank you for your
continued support of my
father's work.

Hinky Meltz, Jr.

Well, thank YOU, Mr. Meltz, Jr.
for taking the time to write us. I
will, in future, try to figure out a
way to print the music for the
songs as well as the lyrics.

Posted by bk @ 08/19/2003 11:13 AM PST

By the way, click on my name for an explanation of boyshorts (I know there was some confusion a while back about what they are and who wears them).

I, unfortunately, am not the person wearing them in this picture.

Posted by Joy @ 08/19/2003 11:13 AM PST

I was quite amused by the Meltz & Ernest song, but I don't usually post something as simple as "That was a lovely song!", but I suppose I should, shouldn't I? If nothing else, it will jack up the post count!

I wonder if Sondheim has heard that song...it sounds a little bit like "How Could I Leave You?"

Posted by Joy @ 08/19/2003 11:16 AM PST

I'm back from Portland, but now must get ready to leave for Los Angeles again. My father is still in the hospital and I think I will need to be there before the week is up.

So much controversy while I was gone. Bruce, please tell Juliana the first thing I do when I return home is read her journal. She makes me smile.

Donald, I was much saddened to read of your loss. I know how much you miss Jack and how difficult this was for you.

Good vibes to all.

Posted by Jane @ 08/19/2003 11:20 AM PST

BK - perhaps during your next foray into the Big Apple we'll just have to skip dinner at Joe Allen's and take a jaunt over to your hotel room for the Beef S.

Emily - got the "LMAO" of ROTFLMAO. What's the rest? Email me privately if you prefer

Sarah - thanks for the "Part I" of the .wav file! Your voice reminds me of the student in "Mr Holland's Opus" Hope to hear more good stuff from you in the future.

Posted by Phil @ 08/19/2003 11:21 AM PST

So boyshorts are lacy, seductive, and Very Sexy, eh?

Sarah, I don't think you're allowed to wear those! It's a law. A federal law, too...not just a state thing.

Poor Mr. Meltz, Jr. (and presumably Mr. Meltz, Sr.) must have felt quite passed over this morning. The song was just as brilliant as the Meltz and Ernest songs ALWAYS are, which is probably why nobody mentioned anything. You know how it is...like how Fred Astaire made dancing look so easy.

Posted by Lulu @ 08/19/2003 11:24 AM PST

ROTF = rolling on the floor

or

really offensive titillating
fecunditiy

or

Robert Osborne's
Tremendous Fish

Posted by bk @ 08/19/2003 11:27 AM PST

I'd heard about Mr. Osborne's tremendous fish; glad to know it's not just a rumor!

Posted by Lulu @ 08/19/2003 11:29 AM PST

I didn't know there was a new biography of Lucille Ball! Review in USA today!

Oh yes, revisited books. Well the BK books, of course.

Atlas Shrugged

Will There Really Be a Morning?

The Season

I have read that ELAINE STRITCH: AT LIBERTY will be available on DVD on October 21st or thereabouts.

Coming on DVD on September 2 - "Titanic" - 1953 with Barbara Stanwyck, Clifton Webb, Thelma Ritter, Audrey Dalton, Robert Wagner, Brian Aherne, Richard Basehart, and Harper Carter.

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/19/2003 11:42 AM PST

Lulu -- Actually, mine aren't as sexy as those, they're not so tight for one thing. They're more fun than sexy and they make great PJs!

"A federal law, too, not just a state thing..." Scrooged, with Bill Murray.

Posted by Joy @ 08/19/2003 11:43 AM PST

That's the version of TITANIC to see Jrand. No prettyboys hanging on the mast, no jewel worn by the star of Golddiggers of 1933 (Ms. Gloria Stuart), and no Celene Dion song!

Posted by William E. Lurie @ 08/19/2003 11:55 AM PST

Wow, Joy...you're almost as scary as I when it comes to recognizing movie quotes. :)

Posted by Lulu @ 08/19/2003 11:57 AM PST

... excuse me. I meant Golddigers of 1935.

Posted by William E. Lurie @ 08/19/2003 11:57 AM PST

Haven't eaten anything except half a bowl of lemon jello since noon yesterday (It'a long story). The fast is over and I just had a huge bowl of oatmeal (with blueberries and brown sugar) and two wonderful cups of coffee. I feel like I'm going to burst, but, boy, it was good!

Posted by Panni @ 08/19/2003 12:00 PM PST

"It's a"...not "It'a"

Posted by Panni @ 08/19/2003 12:02 PM PST

Unfortunately, the only somewhat famous people I know (with the exception of BK, for whom we have to leave out the word "somewhat") are politicians, who are not known for their enjoyment of good food. Rubber chicken fundraising dinners? I ask you!

So everyone here will have to put up with my short list of personal friends: Frank and Bordon, from the West Coast, and Fay and Bonnie, from the East Coast. I admit, I only know Fay and Bonnie from our on-line correspondence, but I'm sure they will be good friends off-line when der Brucer and I get moved. My ever-epicurian der Brucer will be the charming host as I scurry to finish the platings in the kitchen. And while the two invited couples are quite opposite in their political views from each other, they are also all very intelligent, charming, and funny, and the meal I have planned does not require sharp knives, so all should be well.

The soup course will be a decadent mushroom bisque. (Bordon does not eat seafood, so a lobster bisque is out of the question. Besides, I make an amazing mushroom bisque.) This would be followed by roast duck with jus, to be served with an apple/celery root salad and parmesan mashed potatoes. (Three ducks for three couples should be enough, I think.) For dessert, fresh profiteroles filled with chocolate mousse, resting in a puddle of caramel sauce.

The wines with dinner would start with a pinot gris from Oregon, followed by a white Burgundy, and finished with a German eiswein. Coffee will be served with dessert as well.

And after our guests have left, der Brucer will fume for hours about all the pots and pans and glasses and plates it took to put this dinner together, and I won't care because I'll have done the dinner exactly right and washing dishes is his job, not mine!

Just thinking about this meal has me feeling happily sated right now.

Posted by S. Woody White @ 08/19/2003 12:08 PM PST

Well, so far today I've had two, count 'em, two Myoplex Carb Sense Bars - one Chocolate Dipped Strawberry, and one Chocolate Fudge Chunk. They're actually yummy, not quite yummy, but yummy.

Slowly, but surely, I'm getting my stuff in order for my upcoming trip. Sorting through mail, making lists, picking up travel needs, making more lists, getting film for my camera, making even more lists... you get the point. I hope to get my apartment - well, at least my room - cleaned and organized this afternoon/tonight, and then tomorrow shall be packing day. -And, yes, I do have a list for what I'm packing, so it should go swimmingly.

As for dinner... The only dinner, well, dinners, I'm thinking about right now are the one I had last night, and the one I hope to have to tonight. -Let's just say things may be back on track. :-) And, unlike last night where we went out, I'm cooking tonight. Good vibes are a-welcome.

Well, time to get my butt in gear - although I did run two miles about an hour ago, so it's already been in gear somewhat today.

*And my only regret with my upcoming trip is that I didn't order Kritzerland so that I would have it in time to read on the plane... during my 14 1/2 hour(!) plane ride from L.A. to Sydney. Do you overnight?

Posted by Jose C. Simbulan @ 08/19/2003 12:11 PM PST

I just looked up Leslie Parrish's bio. Had NO idea that she was married to Richard Bach and was a character in two of his books. (Have to admit I've never read - and probably never will read - "Jonathan Livingston Seagull".

Posted by Panni @ 08/19/2003 12:12 PM PST

Lulu, I wasn't the one talking about the lacy boyshorts, even though I do own some. I am too old enough to wear them, there isn't an age limit *crosses arms and pouts*

Joy, school shall not take me away from HHW forever, merely from 8 in the morning until 3:45 in the afternoon. BK doesn't even post them until about 11 ish anyway, so I'll have plenty of time. :)

I just went to the dentist. I hate the dentist.

Posted by Sarah @ 08/19/2003 12:18 PM PST

Re-visted books...will be rereading THE MOVIE LOVER very soon. Read it back in the 80s and had an urge to read it again just recently. The only other book I think I have re-read recently would be THE CONTENTED LITTLE PUSSY CAT which was one of my favorite books as a kid, along with SUZY THE SQUIRREL, LOL! I picked both up on Ebay awhile back.

Famous dinner partners...hmmm...would love to dine with actors Ken Clark, John Saxon, Matt Battaglia, Antonio Sabato Jr. and maybe Mario Lopez...beefcake would be served! LOL! Just a little humor created out of sheer hunger. Time for lunch now and then I will behave.

Posted by MBarnum @ 08/19/2003 12:20 PM PST

Sorry, Sarah, I got all mixed-upicated. See what happens once you get out of your teens? Your brain turns to guacamole.

Posted by Lulu @ 08/19/2003 12:21 PM PST

Jose - for you I will overnight.

Sarah - I hope you were not
wearing your Swishy Shorts
when you went to the dentist.
Dentists do not deserve to see
anyone in Swishy Shorts,
especially our Sarah.

It looks like I shall be lunching
since I have had no news re
my errand. Hopefully there will
be news re my errand when I
return.

Posted by bk @ 08/19/2003 12:24 PM PST

Actually one fantasy luncheon will be coming up soon in real life when my buddy Ron and I will get to dine with 1950s starlets Diana Darrin, Laurie Mitchell, and Carolyn Kearney!

BK, I will inquire with Laurie to see if she has any clue as to the whereabouts of Leslie Parrish, her co-star, and the only cast member that she had any recollections of, from MISSLE TO THE MOON.

Posted by MBarnum @ 08/19/2003 12:24 PM PST

I'm sorry, BK, did you say something earlier?

Posted by TCB @ 08/19/2003 12:25 PM PST

Phil it's:

rolling on the floor laughing my ass off

Posted by Emily @ 08/19/2003 12:29 PM PST

Yesterday we printed a story that listed Patrick O'Reilly as a defective in the police force.

This was a typographical error. Patrick O'Reilly is a detective in the police farce.

Posted by Walter Burns @ 08/19/2003 12:30 PM PST

did I just write "ass"?

giggle... giggle... guffaw

Posted by Emily @ 08/19/2003 12:30 PM PST

So it really should be ROTFLMBCO, with "butt cheeks" replacing the offending three-letter word.

Posted by Jay @ 08/19/2003 12:33 PM PST

I wasn't wearing Swishy Shorts, I was wearing jean capris, and a black shirt with a map of the united states on it that says "Where are YOU?"

I like this whole "When I was Sarah's age..." biz :)

My brother has added to his loser-eqe-ness by learning that he has 5 cavities. HOW do you get 5 cavities? I've never had one? He is so dumb.

Oh and the belt-as-loud-as-I-can song has changed to "Somewhere Over The Rainbow". The workers seem to like this one better, I'm not getting as many evil eyes.

Posted by Sarah @ 08/19/2003 12:40 PM PST

That was loser-esque-ness...I didn't type as many letters as I should have :)

Posted by Sarah @ 08/19/2003 12:43 PM PST

TCB - I said lots of things
earlier. Perhaps you could be
a little less obtuse and a little
more obbruce. What in
tarnation ARE you talking
about?

Posted by bk @ 08/19/2003 12:44 PM PST

Done! Thanks, BK!

Posted by Jose C. Simbulan @ 08/19/2003 12:46 PM PST

MBarnum....I am sure that producer William Castle had lunch with the same trio at the Beverly Hills Hotel in 1960!

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/19/2003 12:46 PM PST

Jose - have a good flight. The book will make the plane trip fly by! And you will be singing some very specific songs in your head when you disembark! I don't know why, you just will!

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/19/2003 12:48 PM PST

Click on my name to read about food. Lots and lots of food.

Posted by Lulu @ 08/19/2003 12:50 PM PST

One more time.

Posted by Lulu @ 08/19/2003 12:50 PM PST

Well, BK, Mr. Meltz, Jr. inquired in his e-mail whether or not any of us actually bothered to read your notes. I just wanted to reassure him that we didn’t.

Posted by TCB @ 08/19/2003 01:04 PM PST

Darn it, I'm not the youngin' of the group. Close enough, though. 17 years young and looking forward to that high school diploma in 9 months.

When I was Sarah's age, well, things weren't much different than they are now! I like it that way.

Posted by Paulie @ 08/19/2003 01:08 PM PST

Well, it's off to work for me. Got the wonderful night shift. Might be around later.

Posted by Paulie @ 08/19/2003 01:09 PM PST

I see. This is more labrynthine
than I thought, dear readers.
Don't feed the animal.

Posted by bk @ 08/19/2003 01:10 PM PST

Books revisited reminds me -- Have any of you read the FREDDY THE PIG books by Walter R. Brooks? (26 books written between 1927 and 1958.) An excellent article in the NY Times states:
"The moral center of my childhood universe, the place where good and evil, friendship and treachery, honesty and humbug were defined most clearly, was not church, not school and not the Boy Scouts. It was the Bean Farm." Yes!(The Bean farm is where Freddy resides.) I loved these books with a passion. I remember, having read and re-read each volume, one day perusuing the shelves of the children's library in Toronto, I ran across one I had missed! I sat down in the middle of the library and began to weep. (Got a few stares.) Turns out that many people who wound up in the arts loved Freddy as children. There is a "Friends of Freddy Club" with adult members all over the world (I believe I'm a charter member). If you want to read the NY Times article referenced above, go to
www.freddythepig.org/NewYorkTimes.html
Back to the question: any Freddy lovers among the Hainsies/Kimlets?

Posted by Panni @ 08/19/2003 01:10 PM PST

Oh, this can't be a lull, not now! I've got an hour left to work and I need to be entertained!

I must take this opportunity to say that I am SO happy that my favorite musical, A Chorus Line, has been discussed so much recently. It is a subject that gives me much happiness.

Posted by Joy @ 08/19/2003 01:21 PM PST

"Perusuing' means looking around to sue, I guess. I meant to say "perusing."

Posted by Panni @ 08/19/2003 01:22 PM PST

I haven't read Freddy, but it sounds like something I would enjoy.

Did anyone ever read the Choose Your Own Adventure books? There was one that I could NOT figure out, try as I might. I even tried to cheat with no success. It haunts me to this day.

Posted by Joy @ 08/19/2003 01:23 PM PST

I follow instructions well, so, in the spirit of part deux of today's discussion topic, I must report that I just had lunch, comprised of some yummy beef lasagna and a diet coke.

Posted by Jay @ 08/19/2003 01:26 PM PST

How about Asterix? Any Asterix the Gaul fans here?

Another revisited book is "The Once and Future King" by T.H. White. I love all things Arthurian, but this is the best of them all.

Posted by Joy @ 08/19/2003 01:30 PM PST

Well, well, well (that's three wells). We have a blackout and all hell seems to break loose. I haven't read the posts from yesterday but I will catch up on my reading later.

I haven't posted since Saturday night. Sorry bout that. I have not had Internet access at work (a residual effect of the blackout from last week) AND the office computers got hit with a virus so work is a bit hectic right now. I'm home so I wanted to check in and say hello. We are supposed to have the Internet back tomorrow so I plan on catching up then.

Posted by Ben @ 08/19/2003 01:37 PM PST

In that case, I'll remove this epee from this mass of solid rock

Posted by Noel @ 08/19/2003 01:38 PM PST

I don't know it for a fact, but I'll bet that IS Imogene Lynn singing "You Do" for Mona Freeman in MOTHER WORE TIGHTS. It is the same voice, and now I recognize it. Thanks for the info!

The one person from the entertainment past I'd love to talk in depth to over dinner is Roger Edens, associate producer and three time Oscar winning musical supervisor for the Freed Unit musicals at MGM. I have so much I'd like to ask him about that period at MGM, and I'm SO sorry I never got the chance to meet him in his lifetime. (I'd rather take him out to dinner so I wouldn't be preoccupied with cooking, serving, managing the dinner.)

Posted by Matt H. @ 08/19/2003 01:39 PM PST

Can you believe it - over 100
posts and it's only 2:30 my
time.

All I can say is it is more
labrynthine than I had thought.
Be on your guard.

Posted by bk @ 08/19/2003 01:48 PM PST

Perusuing vt -- 1. a: to seek justice or right from the nation of Peru by legal process b: to enter into any legal process of seeking justice or right where none can be had.

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/19/2003 01:48 PM PST

Matt H: What a wonderful thought -- having dinner with Roger Edens. I'd love to throw Conrad Salinger into that mix, too.

I'll discuss Edens with you any time you want.

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/19/2003 01:50 PM PST

Speaking of children's books, according to last Sunday's Times, the #1 Best Selling Children's Picture Book is about a farting cow. (Or was that best smelling?)

Posted by William E. Lurie @ 08/19/2003 01:50 PM PST

My time is your time.

Posted by Rudy Vallee @ 08/19/2003 01:51 PM PST

Who needs "perusuing"...?
We can stick with "perusing"....
Perusing n. - A Sing-Along with Mitch Miller and the Gang on location in Lima.

Posted by Panni @ 08/19/2003 01:59 PM PST

I'm glad I'm not young anymore".
Dinner Party: Mr Barrett and Mr Spacey plus a DR who can bring a bottle to check out his theory.

Posted by Tom from Oz @ 08/19/2003 02:01 PM PST

Ho Hum Pigs Bum, thats what I say to the labyrinthe that has come upon us.

I'm drinking a Diet Coke and nibbling at some strawberries, which are severely lacking in whipped creme. I need my sugar fix for the day!

Paulie, I indeed am the youngest, and it's actually quite pleasant. But if it's any consolation, you're the second youngest! Another great thing to come out of the 80's :) My little sister is forever watching a movei called Paulie about a talking bird, and that Hallie Eisenberg girl is in it. Wherever did she go?

Posted by Sarah @ 08/19/2003 02:03 PM PST

I'll bet nearly ALL of you dear
readers read these here notes
- I'd just bet that.

Posted by bk @ 08/19/2003 02:04 PM PST

No, I am the youngest. And I
look faboo in Swishy Shorts.

Posted by bk @ 08/19/2003 02:05 PM PST

Re Hallie Eisenberg:
I once saw an interview with her and her mother. They were being asked about the pressures of child stardom, and her mother said that she told Hallie that she could do movies as long as it was fun. If it stopped being fun, they would stop doing it. Maybe it stopped being fun.

Posted by Joy @ 08/19/2003 02:06 PM PST

I read the notes. How else would you be able to get the day's assignment?

Posted by Joy @ 08/19/2003 02:07 PM PST

bk only wishes he could hold my grand title. Bring it on, buddy :)

Posted by Sarah @ 08/19/2003 02:08 PM PST

I'm the youngest and the mostest adowabuw. My mommy says so.

Posted by Widdle Mawy Wou @ 08/19/2003 02:08 PM PST

I forgot to put my email in that and didn't want to come of as an imposter. I am the real Sarah! Hmmm, what would I knwo that would prove it...

I know Maya's secrets...bk is Let-It-Loose-Bruce...td dances like the wind...I sang Someone To Watch Over Me, and only one person got it as a full file.

Good?

Posted by Sarah @ 08/19/2003 02:11 PM PST

I am satisfied. I think we should all come up with code phrases to identify ourselves, that we can email to BK and only he knows them. Like, for example, "Mr. Bear from the zoo called. He wants to know when the second grade field trip is." Then when there is a discrepancy, BK can say, "What's your code, Sarah?" and Sarah can say "Mr. Bear from the zoo called. He wants to know when the second grade field trip is."

Posted by Joy @ 08/19/2003 02:17 PM PST

OR they could all be quotes from our favorite musicals. You'd have to do a lot of digging to find out what everyone's favorite is, and on top of that, you wouldn't know what the code quote was -- only BK would know that, and possibly a deputy in case BK wasn't available in an identity crisis.

Posted by Joy @ 08/19/2003 02:19 PM PST

Maybe we could all get secret decoder rings, and meet in the tree fort after school? ;-)

Posted by Dave @ 08/19/2003 02:21 PM PST

Guys... how much fun is it to play spy? :)

Bad news: I went to work today only to discover that our e-mail addresses have been taken over by the SOBIG VIRUS. I spent the day deleting e-mails and sending warning e-mails to everyone in our address book who are now affected. Boo! Hiss!

Pay Update: It's STIL in the F@%&%#king mail!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Emily @ 08/19/2003 02:25 PM PST

When I was a wee sprig of a
twig of a tad of a lad of a youth
I had a secret decoder ring
and it never decoded
ANYTHING. Damn them,
damn them all to hell. Things
are more labrynthine than I
thought. Actually, I just like
typing the word "labrynthine".

My secret code will be "What is
it, fish?" Oops (spoo, spelled
backwards), I just gave it away.
Damn them, damn them all to
hell.

Posted by bk @ 08/19/2003 02:26 PM PST

Ugh...You people are SO juvenile.

I'm just kidding, I love the idea Joy. Although now you just gave away my "Mr. Bear" code that I was hoping so very much to use. I suppose I'll have to make up a new one... :)

And Dave, all the cool kids had decoder rings. Mine was green :)

Posted by Sarah @ 08/19/2003 02:27 PM PST

I want a decoder ring!!!!!!

Posted by Emily @ 08/19/2003 02:28 PM PST

When I was Sarah's age, all the cool kids had mood rings. ;-)

Posted by Dave @ 08/19/2003 02:35 PM PST

DR Emily: Is your room clean? Homework done? Chores finished? Because you aren't getting a fancy-schmancy decoder ring by just asking, missy! When I was your age I had to walk 50 miles in the snow, uphill both ways, BAREFOOT just so I could HEAR about a decoder ring.

Kids these days. Where's society going? Right down the drain...

Posted by Sarah @ 08/19/2003 02:37 PM PST

Lol Sarah... or should that be ROTFLMBCO? :)

My Dad likes to pull the "when I was your age I had the longest paper-route in Montreal."

The anglophones in his area were spread out when he delivered the big English paper! :)

Posted by Emily @ 08/19/2003 02:44 PM PST

He also calls my current place of empoloyment a "hobby job" cuz I actually enjoy it :)

Posted by Emily @ 08/19/2003 02:45 PM PST

DR Joy:

I am a HUGE Asterix the Gaul fan! I have like 35 books (all those that have been printed, I believe) and every year I go to London, I scour the bookshops to see if a new one has come out...alas, none have now for several years (I know one of the authors passed away a while back). I came across my first three books in a college bookstore back in '68. When I first went to London in the early eighties and saw all the others that were in print, I felt I'd died and gone to heaven! Mr. Kimmel, who delights in word play, I think would find Asterix and his pals very amusing. I've always felt Asterix was ripe plucking for a musical adaptation along the lines of A FUNNY THING HAPPENED ON THE WAY TO THE FORUM.

I also have a rather long shelf in my athenaeum devoted to Arthurian literature.

Posted by Charles Pogue @ 08/19/2003 02:52 PM PST

It must be a clothing store or you ride ponies and hit balls on a professional basis.

Posted by Jay @ 08/19/2003 02:52 PM PST

I just bought a decoder ring.
Do you know what I found out?
I found out that this is more
labrynthine than I thought.

I just got the DVD of The Kid
Stays in the Picture, the Robert
Evans documentary - can't wait
to watch it - and I also got
Cover Girl. I hesitated to get
Cabaret even though the
packaging SAYS enhanced for
widescreen TVs, I've heard
that it's a misprint - until I've
had some kind of verification I
don't want to spend the dough.

Posted by bk @ 08/19/2003 02:52 PM PST

BK, exactly how many DVD's do you own? I thought MY family had a lot.

Posted by Sarah @ 08/19/2003 02:56 PM PST

Well, the secretary to a Major Star has just called me to ask me a third favor. I did the first favor happily, and got no credit, no renumeration. When the Major Star's mother died, I was again happy to do her another favor - after all, she'd just lost her mum. Now, somehow connected to the death of another Star, comes a third favor. I'm told I'll be receiving flowers tomorrow. But what good are flowers? I want free tickets for the Major Star's show! How can I gather up the courage to demand such a thing? She is, after all, a Major Star.

Posted by Noel @ 08/19/2003 03:06 PM PST

OMG...dinner with Roger Edens and Conrad Salinger....let's add Charles Walters and I will there as well...the six of us will have a great time.

There is a lot of information about these men and their work and lives in a book that has been mentioned here before Behind the Screen by William J. Mann

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/19/2003 03:09 PM PST

Noel - they are used to people asking for things...ASK...would it be possible....

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/19/2003 03:10 PM PST

I know it isn't Friday, but I just received the OBC of AMOUR today, and was listening to it in my car earlier today. There is quite a lot of nice material on it, and Melissa Errico is a dream.

BTW, I have been approved to direct the Fall 2004 show at my company. The show has been approved, too, but I can't say anything until the rights are secured. Stay tuned...

Posted by Dave @ 08/19/2003 03:11 PM PST

Sarah--I know a few of your secrets too, ya know ;)

Joy and Charles--Are you guys aware that a big-budgeted Asterix movie came out in France quite recently, starring Gerard Depardieu and the obscenely beautiful Monica Bellucci? Hopefully it'll be in the States soon.

My dinner party would have all you lovely DRs with BK as the compere. Also in attendance would be most of my friends, Brian Stokes Mitchell, Brent Barrett, Stephen Sondheim, Donna Lynne Champlin, Michele Pawk, Marin Mazzie, Woody Allen (but not Soon-Yi), Harvey Feirstein, Jerry Herman, Klea Blackhurst, Glenn Close, Jodie Foster, Johnny Depp (dressed as Jack Sparrow), Ingmar Bergman, Francois Truffaut, Audrey Tautou, Tanith Lee and Susan Sontag. As for the food, I would just hire the Olive Garden to cater and Baskin Robbins to drop off like fifty gallons of all 31 flavors of ice cream.

Posted by Maya @ 08/19/2003 03:15 PM PST

Oooh--I forgot Stanley Donen and Betty Comden and dear sweet Kitty Carlisle Hart.

Posted by Maya @ 08/19/2003 03:16 PM PST

Oh...and Bernadette Peters and Betty Buckley but not Patti LuPone because there will be no unfriendly divas at my dinner party. I swear I'm finished now.

Posted by Maya @ 08/19/2003 03:18 PM PST

Has *anybody* clicked on my name to read about food lots of food?

Posted by Lulu @ 08/19/2003 03:19 PM PST

Lulu,

I clicked on the link, but there was nothing to do with food. Plenty of funny stuff, though...

Posted by Dave @ 08/19/2003 03:24 PM PST

Does this not have to do with food glorious food?

Posted by Lulu @ 08/19/2003 03:30 PM PST

DR Maya: Unless they have made a sequel, an Asterix movie was made several years ago with Gerard...It did extravagantly well in Europe where Asterix is revered and tanked over here. Probably didn't translate well. But given the popularity of the original film, it wouldn't surprise me if they made a sequel. I've yet to see the Asterix movie, but am curious. I have some animated films that were made, but they really don't have the magic of the books.

Part of the problem I suspect is that everyone has their own ideas how these characters should sound and behave and when you get too specific, a lot of people like the version in their imagination better.

And again, I think it is all about translation. The British translators of the English version of what is originally French make the whole thing very droll and witty. Lots of puns.

Posted by Charles Pogue @ 08/19/2003 03:34 PM PST

Lulu,

The link brings me to the front page for "the Onion". I have looked at all the headlines...am I missing something?

Posted by Dave @ 08/19/2003 03:36 PM PST

OH! I forgot to pose a question/request to your DRs earlier...

Does anyone have a copy of the Laserdisc of 1776? If so, could you contact me... I'm trying to help a friend replace his now lost/stolen/missing copy. -He had the DVD, but we all know about the DVD...

And something tells me JRand52 won't be able to help me out with this request. ;-)

Posted by Jose C. Simbulan @ 08/19/2003 03:44 PM PST

Charles--thanks for the info! I actually just headed over to the IMDB and checked it out. There was indeed an Asterix movie a few years: Asterix contre Cesar. The one I had heard about was the sequel: Asterix et Obelix: Mission Cleopatre. Here's a link:

http://www.imdb.com/Title?0250223

Posted by Maya @ 08/19/2003 03:48 PM PST

Gee...they must have fixed it so you can't link directly to a certain page anymore. Darn.

Never mind. :(

Posted by Lulu @ 08/19/2003 04:02 PM PST

Jose - I have the laserdisc of
1776.

Sarah - I have a LOT of DVDs.
Many of which, I'm happy to
say, I've gotten sans cost. I
probably have 2,000.

Posted by bk @ 08/19/2003 04:03 PM PST

LOL Jose.

Yes, Matt H - Imogene has the Mona Freeman ghosting credit on MOTHER WORE TIGHTS!

She does have a brief credits listing at IMDB - for what it's worth.

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/19/2003 04:05 PM PST

Jose, Jack: Yes, I know about the "1776" DVD -- it's absolutely wonderful.

I also have the LD. I'm glad to have it. But I much prefer the quality on the DVD -- the uniformity of all the restored material compared to the rest of the film -- and I find Peter Hunt's portion of the commentary lucid and somewhat different from that on the LD.

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/19/2003 04:37 PM PST

I'm havin' a sneaking
suspicion that we might just
get to 150 posts today.

Posted by bk @ 08/19/2003 04:51 PM PST

It's a lovely day here in Phoenix -- it rained this morning and that cooled things off. I have had a lovely day at home.

Posted by Laura @ 08/19/2003 04:52 PM PST

I checked out the early posts in yesterday's archive and MAN!

Someone needs to get back on his lithium!

I also stumbled across:

Ron-

It's THE THREE B's not P's(a Best Foot Forward reference)

Posted by Arnold M. Brockman @ 08/19/2003 06:12 AM PST

Yes, DR Arnold, I know it's the Three "Bs," but I was having a "play" on earlier references to being "peevish, peckish and pokish" -- three "P's" as it were. And while not an actual direct reference to "Best Foot Forward, " it was the best anyone was going to get from me at the time...

...and d'oh!

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/19/2003 05:02 PM PST

To BK and all of the dear readers at HHW

Earlier today, while laboring far too hard at my job (for which I am underpaid), I wrote two different posts, that were, at the time they were written, meant to be funny. However, by the time I got around to posting them they had become so far out of context that they came across instead as mean-spirited and sarcastic towards BK. Believe me, nothing was farther from my mind than that. I probably should have been paying more attention to what I get paid to do, and less attention to the Unseemly Chat and this would not have happened.

However, considering all the crap that BK has had to put up with lately, I thought it important to clarify the fact that I am indeed guilty of stupidity, but never intentional rudeness. As was mentioned the other day, we are indeed guests in BK's house. I would certainly never knowingly have offended our host. I hope that all of you, but especially BK can forgive those earlier posts.

Posted by TCB @ 08/19/2003 05:14 PM PST

Thanks to dear reader Tom for his gracious post. We're all just a little on guard and on edge given the events of the last few and our psycho stalker. It will all pass very soon and we will no longer be on guard or on edge although we might be on edge and on guard or, at the very least, en garde. Now, back to the merriment and mirth and laughter and legs.

Posted by bk @ 08/19/2003 05:52 PM PST

Here for all you H/K is the review for DR Kurt's version of MOBY DICK. Read it and weep. Posted with Kurt's permission...relatively.

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/19/2003 05:54 PM PST

Just went on a major shopping spree, bought 6 new shirts, 3 new pants, and 2 new shoes, and being my thrifty self, I only spent $220. THAT, my friends, is skill.

Unfortunately, after the fun shopping, I had to go get school supplies. I HATE school supply shopping, it's like a death sentence. Urgh. So to make up for my unhappiness I bought myself nail polish. And a coffee. And lipstick :) I need my money taken away from me.

BK: 2,000 DVD's?! I have about 300 and people look at ME like I'm crazy. Thats quite the accomplishment.

Someone IM me some jokes at isingthere4irock. I'm bored :)

Posted by Sarah @ 08/19/2003 06:28 PM PST

A lull...no lulls allowed (NLA). Y'all come back now, ya hear?

Posted by Sarah @ 08/19/2003 06:56 PM PST

SPECIAL ALERT: Juliana's Journal has been updated WITH photos from the tour!

Enjoy!

Posted by Craig @ 08/19/2003 07:06 PM PST

Thanks a lot for the info about the singing of Peter Palmer and Leslie Parrish in Lil Abner. Why did Peter Palmer do so little, with a voice, smile, and personality like that?? And how can the lovely Miss Leslie Parrish so successfully drop out of sight. If she was married to Richard Bach, then you'd think that some trail of her whereabouts would exist??

I always love the "dinner party" question, because it is always a different answer for me. It kind of depends on experiences of the last year, and for me it isn't mandatory that the guests be terribly famous.

So....I would enjoy a dinner with Kerry, Bruce, Lee Roy Reams, Angela Lansbury, Mary Cummings, and Michael Feinstein.

The menu would have lots of favorites, but would have to include lobster somewhere.

Now I'm hungry!! Ah Haz Spoken!!

Posted by MusicGuy @ 08/19/2003 07:46 PM PST

GAADDDD....Where is everyone?? A dreaded, crepuscular, triple-horned LULL.....

What a maroon!

Posted by MusicGuy @ 08/19/2003 08:22 PM PST

I'm here. Quiet, but here.

Posted by Jay @ 08/19/2003 08:33 PM PST

All right, Counselor BK is here - where in tarnation IS everyone. Just when we got our joie de vivre back. Get your butt cheeks in here now and let's get some postin' goin' on.

Posted by bk @ 08/19/2003 08:39 PM PST

Anyone for a game of Scrabble?

Posted by The Den Mother @ 08/19/2003 08:42 PM PST

Hmmm...I haven't got anything to say! Just meaningless babble. I'm decorating my school supplies to make them look slightly more appealing. It's not working *pout*.

Den Mother Susan, do I HAFTA go to school?

Posted by Sarah @ 08/19/2003 08:50 PM PST

DR Sarah, YES. You may find this hard to believe, but years from now, you will look back on your school years as "The Good Ol' Days." And when you get to be [ahem!] my age, you'll wish you were back in school again!

Posted by Den Mother @ 08/19/2003 08:57 PM PST

Panni:

Yes, I read all the Freddy the Pig books I could find. My memories of them are all too vague right now, but next to the Dr. Dolittle series (so excruciatingly bastardized by Eddie Murphy) and the entire Oz series (I just got three for cheap from BOtMC--and I have my mother's raggedy first edition of Glinda of Oz), Freddy was the best!

The cows were Mrs. Wiggins and Mrs.... what? Gee, I must pick up copies and reread them.

Joy:

I have some of the Asterix in English and in French--and I have two of them in their Esperanto translations. I kid you not!

And then there are my Alice books. My collection is not really the largest, but I do have French, Italian, Polish, Czech, Japanese (2 translations), Chinese, Nabokov's Russian version--and of course Esperanto.

The Hobbit in German, Spanish, and Esperanto. LotR in Esperanto.

Oh, The Little Prince in many of the above, and I picked up a Papiamentu version in Aruba.

Posted by William F. Orr @ 08/19/2003 09:16 PM PST

William F. Orr:

Thrilled to hear there's a Freddyphile in the house! If you want a quick Freddy refresher, go to

www.freddythepig.org/index.html

For those who don't know, Freddy was also quite the porcine poet. Here is one of his works:

Breathes there a pig with soul so dead
Who never to himself has said:
"This is my own, my native pen?"
Whose heart has ne'er within him burned
As home his trotters he has turned
From wandering in the world of men?

Posted by Panni @ 08/19/2003 09:34 PM PST

The first "real" (as opposed to "picture") book I ever owned was Heidi, a present I received from my grandmother for my birthday when I was . . . uh, eight, I think. My favorite book growing up was Winnie the Pooh and, when I moved to Japan after college, I bought the Japanese translation, intending it to be my first conquest at reading Japanese. But, alas, it was too challenging for my rudimentary level of the language, and I never got beyond the first page or two. It still sits on my shelf with my other Japanese language books, waiting to be tackled.

Posted by Susan @ 08/19/2003 09:44 PM PST

Clothing Call!

I am wearing black swishy pants, a white tanktop with a pink tanktop over it, and pink slippers with strawberries on them.

Your turn.

Posted by Sarah @ 08/19/2003 09:56 PM PST

Do any the DRs out there know exactly how the "Sobig" virus works? I've received a few e-mails today from various servers saying that they had a problem with an e-mail I sent them - that it had a virus. The problem is - for me at least - is that I always scan my system for viruses, and when I did scan today, my program found none. I even used a web-based virus detection engine, and it did not find a virus on my system. I even looked for the two files that the virus supposedly comes from, and they were no where to be found on my computer. So....????

As for the 1776 LD, I like the DVD too, but my friend really likes the LD version - just the movie part, he's not interested in the commentary. To each his own.

Oh, and dinner tonight was very nice. I didn't end up cooking, but we did have a wonderful Thai meal - and even had ice cream afterwards! YUM! -Guess I'll be running again tomorrow! ;-)

Posted by Jose C. Simbulan @ 08/19/2003 09:58 PM PST

No one is getting a virus from you Jose. Your addy is being stolen - there is nothing you can do about it. Someone has stolen several of the haines addresses from this site and done the same thing. There is also another "hoax" virus, where your being told what the fix is. Don't do it.

Sarah - TWO count them TWO tank tops. You're an ARMY.

Nike shorts and an ASCAP t-shirt. And NO THONG.

Posted by bk @ 08/19/2003 10:24 PM PST

DR MusicGuy: I have a recording of Peter Palmer in "A Night In Venice" (J Strauss Jr), "Babes In Toyland", "The Student Prince",& "The New Moon". Let me know if you are THAT interested.

Posted by Tom from Oz @ 08/19/2003 11:09 PM PST

I was about to post an unseemly comment about how the unseemly posts show up HOURS late for me.

And then I noticed that BK is a PST guy, and I am an EST guy.

I guess the 25mg of diphenhydramine I took a few minutes ago is kicking in early.

Posted by Paulie @ 08/19/2003 11:09 PM PST

On tonight's "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy," it was a fun show, but it was the Fab 5 doing their commentary while watching a video of the "date" near the end that set me off. I found myself in near-hysterics, tears flowing. I thought I might have a stroke. And then I'd start up again. I wasn't laughing, I was guffawing. It was incredible. And I cannot say why. No, no. Not on this PG (at worst)-rated site, I cannot say.

But if anyone else was watching and would like to chuckle over what Carson said during the chocolate tasting, I'm up for it!

Uh-oh. I'm starting up again.

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/19/2003 11:18 PM PST

This world needs laughter DR Ron. Thanks for adding to the supply of happiness. Hello Miss Vickie from Magnus & Fosca.
The post of course makes no sense to me as TV here is always about 18 months behind!

Posted by Tom from Oz @ 08/19/2003 11:22 PM PST

Hello, Tom From Oz, Magnus and Fosca!

I haven't laughed so hard since the Dame Edna theatrical event back in April!!!

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/19/2003 11:27 PM PST

My sister and a friend of hers went to see the Dame last weekend. I gather she now makes phone calls - over the theatre audio system - to the parents of unsuspecting couples in the audience so that she can offer good marriage counselling! May be faked but knowing BH it could also be real - despite the invasion of privacy! The Melbourne show "Back to my roots" includes audience participation with an odd bunch brought to the stage to play Edna's family and friends in a run through of a proposed bio film script. Is this new or part of the show that toured the USA?

Posted by Tom from Oz @ 08/19/2003 11:53 PM PST

LAst things first, in the SF show "An Evening with Dame Edna," BH brings a group of folks onto the stage...and then has them taken off and dressed up as the Royal family...and when the return they're hilarious.

Edna involves audience members in all parts of the show...and at one point, learning that a couple were going to her parents' for dinner after the show, then called those parents and said all sorts of "wrong" things based on the info she pumped the couple for in the moments preceding the call. It was totally genuine and very hilarious.

Dame Edna gives you your money's worth!

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/20/2003 12:07 AM PST

About dinners...I would definitely have it catered. There is no way that I could impress anyone with my cooking. I'm not bad, just not very adventurous. As far as invitees, there are just too many possibilities. The problem is that everyone that I would want to invite would (more than likely) find me as boring as a bump on a log. But if it's all fantasy, I would be the most sparkling conversationalist, be able to keep up with everyone but not monopolize the evening. And Tom, I like your guests (I hope I'm thinking correctly what the unnamed DR's "theory" is for your guests) ;-)

Posted by George @ 08/20/2003 12:40 AM PST

On other comments (trying to catch up a little):

Today is (well, Tuesday was) Gene Roddenberry's birthday. He would have been 82 years old.

Panni, I've never heard of the "Freddy" books. I feel left out.

About "1776" the movie: I have the extended laserdisc (which I do prefer to the DVD) but I don't think my copy has any commentary... unless my LD player just can't do that. Does anyone know if there were actually two different laserdisc versions?

And about virus e-mails: Today, out of 27 e-mail messages that I received, only two (2) were legitimate. Five of the other 25 were obvious "business opportunity" spam. Four were "bounced back" messages, saying that messages that I was sending were going to e-mail address that don't exist... but these were e-mails that I had never sent! All the rest (16) had some kind of .pif file attachment. And one of these last 16 had DR Jose's e-mail address as the sender!! (Yes, I know that it wasn't really from him.) ALL 25 of these bad e-mail messages either came from or were sent to my previous attbi.com e-mail address, which doesn't really exist any more (if an e-mail message is sent to my old attbi.com e-mail address, it's automatically forwarded to my new Comcast e-mail address).

Fortunately, I have it set up that Comcast will screen my e-mails for potential viruses (viri?) and to put them in a "screened" folder (when I go on-line) that is never downloaded to my computer. I've gotten into the habit of checking my e-mail through Comcast's web page before I open my e-mail reader on my computer (Outlook Express) so that I can delete them and not be infected. Unfortunately soon, very soon, my e-mail address will have to be changed...yet again.

Posted by George @ 08/20/2003 12:46 AM PST

Put me down as another DR who has the '1776' laserdisc. Yes, mine does have a commentary track, but you know, I do believe Pioneer did issue another version of the complete '1776,' and it might have been missing the commentary.

I think what I like best about the cut on the laserdisc is the overture followed by the opening credits and then the opening scene without credits superimposed. Of course, I'm glad to have the DVD, too, to have the film in "semi-complete" form looking so good and sounding so wonderful, but the laserdisc has the complete "Piddle, Twiddle, and Resolve" and "The Lees of Old Virginia" which I am SO glad to have. I wish the DVD had included the edited bits in a special section even if they didn't put them back into the film.

Oh, Ron and Jrand52, that MGM conclave of Edens, Salinger, and Walters would have been so terrific.

Ron, I saw QUEER EYE, and could not believe Carson went there with the "dark finger" remark. Amazing what people can get away with with a wink, a smile, and some personality.

Posted by Matt H. @ 08/20/2003 01:37 AM PST

Hooray, we finally have Web access at the office again so I can more easily catch up on what's been happening since the blackout. We have had all sorts of little computer problems here at work since the unseemly incident last Thursday. It's so hard to catch up when we seem to routinely post over 100 every day, including weekends.

On a different note, I'm not sure if this was mentioned on Monday (the pub date I think) but I think our own Hapgood was quoted at Playbill On-Line! I have posted the link (click on my name). Scroll down to the bottom (or read the entire post if you like) to where he talks about the movie, Camp and a reader named Zev who lives in Ohio. Hapgood, is that you??

Posted by Ben @ 08/20/2003 03:38 AM PST

I've been getting those emails too. I just deleted about 10 of them, which were all "replies" to emails I hadn't send! But none had DR addresses, they were all companies.

Posted by Sarah @ 08/20/2003 04:47 AM PST