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08/20/2003:
"MOLTO AGITATO IN A LATHER"

Photo of Bruce Kimmel

bk's notes II

Well, dear readers, here we are on a fine and lovely Wednesday. Or is it a lovely and fine Wednesday? Either way, it is a Wednesday that is fine and/or lovely and/or both. Yesterday was a crazy day – I was in a lather all day, quite agitato, as we say in music. Have you ever been in a lather? Normally, I shave whilst in a lather, but yesterday I was in a lather and I did not shave. I wonder if people think I looked funny walking around in a lather. In any case, I was in said lather and molto agitato, but today I am calm and cool as a cucumber. Did you know, for example, that calm anagrammed is “clam”? Did you know that? Did you know that cool anagrammed is “oolc”? Did you know that? Well, the only thing left to say in this paragraph is what the hell am I talking about?

Did you know that Meltz and Ernest wrote a very nice song called I’m Calm as a Cucumber? They did, and here it is.

I’M CALM AS A CUCUMBER Music by Hinky Meltz Lyrics by Ernest Ernest

If I had a dollar
For ev’ry time I got hot under the collar
I’d be a millionaire
But baby I’ve learned my lesson
And baby I’m confessin’
I’ll retire my ire and from now on
I won’t have a care
And now

I’m calm, calm as a cucumber
I’m cool as a potato chip
While I used to get quite angry
Now look how I’ve got a grip

I’m calm, calm as a cucumber
I’m cool as boysenberry pie
While I used to simply blow up
Now my tantrums blow right by

Look at me
Fancy and free
Making things light and fun
Look at me
Got a degree
In Happiness 101

I’m calm, calm as a cucumber
I’m cool as a banana split
While I used to blare and bellow
Now I never have a fit

I’m calm, calm as a cucumber
I’m cool as a corned beef on rye
Yes, I’m a calm and cool customer
And quite a happy-go-lucky guy.

Isn’t that a wonderful Meltz and Ernest song. So lilting in these times of occasional turmoil.

Well, why don’t we all click on the Unseemly Button below, because I’ve got places to go and people to see, don’t you know?

Have I mentioned that I am as cool as a cucumber from the song of the same name? Don’t forget, our very own Mr. Craig Brockman has put up some photos in Juliana’s Journal and if you like those there will be more soon, and in color, too.

Last night I watched a motion picture entertainment on DVD entitled The Kid Stays in the Picture. This is the documentary about producer Robert Evans. It’s beautifully done, beautifully photographed by John Bailey, and a wonderful portrait of Hollywood and the business we call show. Evans narrates in his unmistakable drone, and it’s funny and touching, and whatever you think of him and the roller coaster ride he’s been on, he and the film are fascinating. Worth the entire price of the disc is the end credit sequence, where Dustin Hoffman, at the time of filming Marathon Man, does a spot-on impression of Evans that is laugh-out-loud hilarious.

Well, dear readers, I must take the day, I must do the things I do, I must work all the livelong day, and I am lunching with Miss Joan Ryan, who is a very good and loud singer I’ve worked with. I, in fact, produced her first album, and we’re meeting to chat about doing another. Isn’t that exciting? Isn’t that just too too? You, of course, will be the first to know if we’re going to go ahead with it. Today’s topic of discussion: It’s Ask BK Day, and also Ask Dear Reader Day, the day in which you get to ask me or any dear reader whatever questions you so choose. So choose some questions and ask away. I will answer mine in the posts o’ the day. Let’s have loads of lovely posts for me to read as I work all the livelong day.

- Bruce Kimmel



Replies: 165 Unseemly Comments


Am I the first?

If so, let me say that one of these recent Dear Readers is amazingly beautiful.

Posted by Noel @ 08/20/2003 07:45 AM PST


First post and first question!

BK: What are you planning on having for lunch today? And what should I have?

Posted by Craig @ 08/20/2003 07:45 AM PST


D'OH

Dagnabbit

You beat me.. you are definitely

(no groaning here at hhw)

THE FIRST NOEL!

Posted by Craig @ 08/20/2003 07:46 AM PST


Just want to reiterate what was posted late to yesterday's notes. There is a computer virus being sent around - it looks like it's coming from your own address because these finks just cruise the web and steal addresses. You will also get e-mails that look like they're from people you know, but they are not REALLY from people you know, they are from finks. The attachment is a .pif file. Do not open ANY attachments, whether from people you know or not, until you contact that person and they tell you it is safe. Obviously, never open an attacment from ANYONE you don't know. But, if you get an attachment and aren't sure - just write the person who sent it, ask what it is, and if it's safe. You will either hear back that it is safe, or they will say they didn't send it, or you will not hear back. If it's the latter two then simply delete the e-mail without opening it.

Posted by bk @ 08/20/2003 07:55 AM PST


That wasn't a groan at all, dear Craig, that was a giggle.

Good Morning bk! I've been waiting for a long time for notes to go up this morning, as I've been up for a grand total of 3 hours already. Question for you: Who was your favorite teacher during your school years, what did they teach, and why were they your favorite?

Another question: What song should I sing next: I'm The Greatest Star, or Somewhere Over The Rainbow? I'm having trouble deciding...I know, I know, it's irrelevant, but it's been bugging me all morning...ITGS would take up waaaay more space, but SOTR isn't vocally impressive as ITGS is...ho hum pigs bum.

How are you all, DR's?

Posted by Sarah @ 08/20/2003 07:56 AM PST


The first and the best!

DR Sarah: What exactly are swishy shorts?

That is indeed a cute little song, BK. I'd love to hear the music, it sounds like it would be bouncy. Is it bouncy?

Posted by Joy @ 08/20/2003 07:56 AM PST


Guys... I don't know if it's the caffeine surge from my huge cup 'o morning coffee or just the lack of sleep, but you guys are really just HILARIOUS in the early posts. :)

Of course, you're also funny in the afternoon and in the evening underneath the moon (ooh... Sharon, Lois and Bram reference).

On that note: BK, and all other DRs, my question. Who are your favorite performers who are aimed at the kiddy market from the past or the present?

I will admit I grew up with the CBC weekday morning for kids with Canuck SESAME STREET, UNDER THE UMBRELLA TREE and, of course, SHAROM, LOIS AND BRAM'S "THE ELEPHANT SHOW".

"Skinnaree-rink-a-rink-a-dink
Skinnaree-rink-a-do
I love you!
Skinaree-rink-a-rink-a-dink
Skinaree-rink-a-do
I love you!

I love you in the morning
and in the afternoon
I love you in the evening
underneath the moon"

ah... childhood memories... :)

Posted by Emily @ 08/20/2003 07:57 AM PST


That last "Sharom" should actually read "Sharon" of course... :)

Posted by Emily @ 08/20/2003 07:58 AM PST


OK.. it's so christmassy here with early posts from Noel AND Joy..

Maybe a few wise(ass) men will show up next!

Posted by Craig @ 08/20/2003 08:02 AM PST


Emily! That used to be my FAVORITE show when I was little! (Sharon, Lois, and Bram). I have the cutest video of me when I'm about 3, sitting on the couch with my 1 year old little sister in her diaper, and I'm singing that song, doing the movements, and then I finish and yell at her for not getting it right lol. (Yes, even at 3 I was a perfectionist). IT's funny because I even do the "Boop-Boop-Eee-Doo, MWAH!" at the end :). I didn't think anyone else under the sun knew that song. I thought it was "Skid-a-marink-ee-dink-ee-dink" though...

Joy, Swishy Shorts are pretty much running shorts, only...swishy...they make the same noise that a taffeta dress would make, the swishy swish. We did a clothing call a few weeks ago, and I was wearing my pretty purple swishy shorts. I was inquired about them, and then the nickname came about :)

Posted by Sarah @ 08/20/2003 08:04 AM PST


Sarah... I think you're right about the "skid" over the "skin"

whatever... it's been awhile.

cute story though :)

Posted by Emily @ 08/20/2003 08:06 AM PST


What advice is given to brides? I'm looking for advice of two sorts:

1) General, traditional instructions on what a wife should do

2) Instructions particular to the wedding night

This is to help me write a song for the bridesmaids to sing at our wedding. The song's supposed to start with the traditional 1) advice, sung by the four ladies in counterpoint. Then, they stop the song, and say that what they really want to sing about is the wedding night, 2), at which point the musical switches from classical madrigal to rock.

I've a feeling nobody answered this because this is a family board, but I'm not looking for anything too salacious: It's a family wedding after all! Relatives as young as 2 and as old as 75 will be there. Plus, we're planning to sell a CD of it, so, you know, we can't break any international censorship laws! So, what wedding advice would you give a bride?

Posted by Noel @ 08/20/2003 08:20 AM PST


Noel... there's always that great piece of Victorian era advice on how a woman was to "bear her wifely duties" (you have to read into that to get the true meaning) given, supposedly, my her mother before her wedding night:

Just lay back, close your eyes and think of England

Posted by Emily @ 08/20/2003 08:24 AM PST


Emily and Sarah,

I don't really know from Sharon Lois and Bram, but when I grew up, the expression for someone who had to fatten up was skinamarink, or skinny marink, or even sometimes skinny malink. I hadn't heard that term in years - then Shirley Maclaine said it in Used People.

Changing topics. Gregory Hines was buried just outside of Toronto. His fiancée was a member of a church in the suburb where I live, and, I read, he felt very comfortable there. Some hundred people attended the church service, mainly parishoners who, in this working class neighborhood, knew or cared very little about his celebrity.

Posted by Dan-in-Toronto @ 08/20/2003 08:24 AM PST


DR Dan,

My mother, who is single-handedly trying to keep the old Canadianna language alive, always used to call us "skinny malinks". I have no idea where the expression comes from or whether it's being referenced by Sharon, Lois and/or Bram. :)

Posted by Emily @ 08/20/2003 08:27 AM PST


Yes it is Wednesday...and this is the LAST Wednesday of my 52nd year. Oh my!

I just ordered from Amazon.com the new GYPSY Cast Album, although over there they call it the new Broadway SOUNDTRACK CD! I look forward to listening to it, most of it. I also ordered the SONDHEIM CD produced by Mr. BK himself including Mr Guy Haines singing SORRY/GRATEFUL.

And now my question for ASK BK day:

When you were growing up, what do you think was the greatest movie ad campaign you ever saw. What ad, commercial, or preview made what film a MUST SEE! I know you saw a lot of movies on opening day, but which one was the most anticipated because of advertising? And...did it disappoint?

Two Hinky-Meltz songs in two days. They certainly were prolific weren't they? And they wrote a lot of songs, too.

Some wonderful puns today. And the first Noel made my day! I will now have to watch the DVD of WHITE CHRISTMAS...in VistaVision Motion Picture High Fidelity!

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/20/2003 08:35 AM PST


DR Emily: We need a linguist to help us out. Though I am Dan-in-Toronto I will always be Dan-from-the-Bronx. And Used People was set in Brooklyn. Was your mom born in Canada? Her mom?

Posted by Dan-in-Toronto @ 08/20/2003 08:40 AM PST


Ask BK Question: Along the same lines as Jrand52, what do/did you think of the 1963 "Cleopatra"?

-- When you first saw it (and which version of it did you see, length-wise)

-- And the "restored version" on DVD

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/20/2003 08:42 AM PST


Answering DR Sarah: I am feeling rather overwhelmed with work today, as my boss has buried me under a huge MEMORANDUM OF LAW that I must edit. Luckily I get to put on my headphones and listen to Classic Rock while I do the edits. Currently, Fleetwood Mac is singing ...oh wait, now Eric Clapton is singing Wonderful Tonight. It makes me melt, but not as much as the words of another songwriter who happened to be the first poster today.

Thanks for the explanation about the Swishy Shorts, Sarah.

Posted by Joy @ 08/20/2003 08:47 AM PST


To me, Meltz and Ernest sounds like a yummy sandwich.

Posted by Lulu @ 08/20/2003 09:08 AM PST


Jrand This is my LAST Wednesday to be 52, as well.

My favorite performer was a local legend named J.P. Patches. As a kid I loved him, and then, when I was in college, I rediscoved him and found a wonderful adult layer of comedy that I hadn't noticed as a child.

Greatest movie campaign when I was growing up was for the original Time Machine. I couldn't wait to see the Morlocks. It was also one of the few movies that actually lived up to the hype.

Posted by TCB @ 08/20/2003 09:09 AM PST


Well, JRand... It's the last Wednesday of my 34th year! Of course, I'm wondering since I'll be in Australia on the anniversary of my natal day: Do I celebrate on Australia time (14 hours ahead) or on US/homebase time? Heck, I can celebrate both!

I've actually been up for a while already too - at least a while for me. I had hoped to be up by 7:00(UGH) to get my car to the shop so that I could drop it off to get inspected. Thankfully, I ended up waking up at 7:45 - I had forgotten to move the little switch on my clock radio to "alarm". At least I got a few extra winks. I got my car to the shop - I had made an appointment to get in done today. I then walked to Starbucks and met a friend for coffee and conversation... two hours later... ;-)

So, now, I'm basically just stalling until I start packing. I should be able to get it done rather quickly. I have tons of mental lists, and I've been pretty good with my packing lately for trips - I just have to remember that my hands and my shoulders can't be lugging heavy pieces of luggage around if I expect to be able to play properly. I'm also going out for two weeks this time. The domestic leg of this tour is four weeks! And three climates! Now that will be a test!

-And since I don't have access to my car until this afternoon, I'm kind of "forced" to stay home and pack... well, do something.

As for Ask BK, Ask DR day...

For DRs: If you could pick a particular calendar day to CHANGE your birthday to, which date would you choose and why? -I just remember growing up being envious of all my friends who had birthdays around Christmas - double presents! I also remember almost being "held back" since my birthday fell so close to the start of the school year, and I almost missed the age cut-off date for some elementary schools. I tended to be the "youngest" one in my grade. Additionally, my three brothers' birthdays fall on New Years Day (January 1), Halloween (October 10), and on the anniversary of the first man landing on the moon (July 21). Mine - and JRand's - falls on August 26, which is (used to be - ?) Women's Liberation Day... Guess that was an early sign... ;-)

-But, now, I'm happy with my birthday date - although it does tend to fall during a tech week - or an opening night if I have a fall show. At least I'm among friends!

Well, time for me to start packing... soon.. I promise... (ah, yes, a Sondheim reference).

Posted by Jose C. Simbulan @ 08/20/2003 09:20 AM PST


That was a really swell song Meltz and Ernest wrote. I got a shiver down my spine.

Posted by Laura @ 08/20/2003 09:36 AM PST


DR Sarah -

"Over The Rainbow" would be my pick. There's so much emotion that can be brought out from it, without getting into histrionics (like Sam Harris did in the early 90's).

Try to find something in it that has yet to be "discovered" by the many vocalists (led by Judy herself) who have covered it. Find a way to make it your own.

As a 'fer instance, listen to Eva Cassidy's recording - very different from Judy's and just as moving. If you can't find it, let me know.

As for Ask BK - What vocalists would you most like to work with (four total; one each male and female, living and dead)? And what song would be your pick for each of them to record?

Posted by Phil @ 08/20/2003 09:41 AM PST


If I'm reading these posts right
we have a lot of upcoming
birthdays to celebrate -
remember if you don't e-mail
me that info IN ADVANCE I will
not be able to plan the parties.
So, get to it, you birthday
people.

Sarah - I had a handful of
teachers who were
instrumental in helping me
learn things - and I've written
about them extensively in the
Kritzer books. However, Miss
Wallett, my fourth grade
teacher was wonderful and
warm, and Mr. Williamson, my
junior high music teacher,
opened up whole worlds to
me. There are two or three
others that are leading
characters in book three so I
will let you dear readers
discover them when you read
the book.

Ron - Cleopatra was the first
big roadshow picture I didn't
see. I don't even remember
why I didn't see it, given that I
saw every single other one. I
didn't see it, in fact, until the
restored laserdisc came out.
It's LONG - but very enjoyable
in parts. More answers in a
mo.

Posted by bk @ 08/20/2003 09:42 AM PST


Birthday twin Jose (August 26) - get packing. I celebrated my birthday abroad once...when I was in Ireland! It is a very strange sensation!

Here in Indiana we had Popeye and Janie which morphed into Popeye and Peggy...but had started out as Popeye and Herbie. The ladies maintained their own personalities, with singing and puppets and were fairly enjoyable. Cowboy Bob was on at noon while the ladies were on in the early evening, opposite "Frances Farmer Presents" and the Channel 8 "Early Show", also a movie.

Popeye and Herb featured Herb Isaacs in full sailor regalia. Once he had Edward Everett Horton as a guest since he also showed the Rocky and Bullwinkle episodes and EEH narrated the "Fractured Fairy Tales."

Channel Six had Harlow Hickenlooper who was as irritating as he sounds and once while he was out in front of the station introducing the Three Stooges short film of the day, around the corner from the parking lot, Frances made a surprise appearance, hair awry and carrying a purse as big as a suitcase...he cornered her and interviewed her on the air live as she tried to escape! Cap'n Star was also on Channel 6 on Saturday mornings, but their children's programming was boring and/or irritating or BOTH.

Curly Myers used sing cowboy songs and some guy named Ben introduced the Mickey Mouse Club on Channel 13, but that's all I remember about him.

Anyway - not that I watched much tv when I was growing up, or anything.

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/20/2003 09:56 AM PST


OH!! Sammy Terry introduced the scary movies on Saturday night on Channel 4 - where I first saw ATTACK OF THE PUPPET PEOPLE starring DR Susan and many other movies of the same kind featuring of course Miss Allison Hayes!

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/20/2003 09:57 AM PST


Dear Reader Noel:

Here's something for your song:

Act surprised!

Posted by Jay @ 08/20/2003 09:57 AM PST


DRs:
What is your favorite song from a children's movie? Who is your favorite character from a children's movie musical?

I'll have to think more about the song question, but my favorite character would be The Wart from Disney's Sword in the Stone.

DR's and BK: Have you seen Fantasia 2000? What did you think of it? Were you as moved by the Rhapsody in Blue piece, and as confused by the Whale piece, as I was?

Posted by Joy @ 08/20/2003 10:02 AM PST


Good one, Jay...if anyone really buys the bride's innocence.

Posted by Joy @ 08/20/2003 10:03 AM PST


Jrand ---
Since the Soundtrack to GYPSY is being released soon you may actually be getting the Lisa Kirk/Roz Russell version instead of the Bernadette.

For Ask BK---
When will there be another Celebrity Chat and when will there be a new interview on this here site?

Posted by William E. Lurie @ 08/20/2003 10:04 AM PST


Well, I have errant and truant (but more often lurking) much too long.

Here are my Ask BK questions:

1. I've got the Ann-Margret Best Little Whorehouse.. playing in the car and the wonderfully-produced CD reminds me what a ball the show was. BK, was it just as much fun to record?

2. A local theatre company upon whose Board I sit (sounds painful, doesn't it?) is doing Pete 'n Keely next month. Any rembrances of that cast album you wish to share?

Posted by Philip Crosby @ 08/20/2003 10:05 AM PST


I never liked having my birthday in the middle of the summer because most of my friends would be away at camp when I wanted to plan a birthday party. It's different if your birthday is during the school year. The whole class will sing "Happy Birthday" to you. If your birthday is in the summer and you happened to be at camp, then you might get "Happy Birthday" sung to you there. But it never seemed to work out for me to be at camp on my birthday, until . . . One summer, I signed on as a counselor for the whole summer, delighted that finally I'd hear "Happy Birthday" sung to me on my birthday. Now, here's the sad part. When it came to be my birthday, it was also the birthday of one of the campers in another cabin. At dinner, the whole dining room sang "Happy Birthday" to him, but not to me. "Why?" you might ask. Because counselors didn't qualify to have "Happy Birthday" sung to them. *sigh!* Luckily for me, my lovely cabin of girls didn't know that, and they sang "Happy Birthday" to me, anyway. Would I change the date of my birthday? Now, why didn't someone offer me that option when I was still in school?! For the reason I just stated, I would have gladly changed the date of my birthday, in a flash, or even in a strobe. I would have changed my birthday to the autumn, because that's my favorite time of year. However, had I changed my birthday, I would no longer be a Leo, and that would have affected my life in so many ways. So, I am content to keep my birthday just when it is. The End.

Posted by Susan @ 08/20/2003 10:05 AM PST


Would that THAT was true, Bill - I would be even happier, but the illustration shows Miss BP in all her splendor on the cover and it is NOT a pre-order but ready to ship...so I am of the opinion that it is the just-released-yesterday Broadway Revival Cast album that I will receive.

Do you have link with info about the upcoming soundtrack release?

I remember well when Miss Russell's book came out and she proclaimed loudly that she had done ALL her own singing. Miss Lisa Kirk was quoted in Earl Wilson's column that those checks Jack Warner sent her must have just been an expression of his admiration for her. She hadn't wanted to do the singing -or as much as she ended up doing - but she said Warner offered her a nice "piece of the soundtrack" which will soon pay off again for her!

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/20/2003 10:11 AM PST


Joy - Yes, the Meltz and Ernest
song is bouncy. It is a bouncy
C.

Best ad campaign of my youth
would be Psycho. There was
no way I wasn't seeing that
movie after that trailer and after
those ads "You MUST see it
from the beginning. NO ONE
will be seated after the movie
begins!"

Emily - my favorite kiddy
performers were local - Sheriff
John, Engineer Bill and
Chucko the Clown (I made an
award-winning documentary
about them in the
mid-eighties, called Weekday
Heroes). Danny Kaye was
always a fave, as was Jerry
Lewis and The Three Stooges.

Posted by bk @ 08/20/2003 10:18 AM PST


"Happy Birthday to you,
Happy Birthday to you,
Happy Birthday Dear Susaaaaaan,
Happy Birthday to you!"

Not on-date, but still good :)

Joy: My favorite character from a childrens movie is probably the Genie in Aladdin. I also always loved Gus (short for Octavius) the mouse in Cinderella, but I don't know why. I named my cat after him :)

My favorite song from a childrens movie is a tie between "If You Believe" from The Prince of Egypt, and "Part of Your World" from The Little Mermaid.

Yes, yes, many birthdays coming up on us. This is the second to last Wednesday as a 15 year old for me, isn't that exciting? Isn't that just too too? (Oh, a bk reference...)

I have a similar problem to Susan. My birthday is at the end of summer, beginning of school. Usually people are too busy to remember, and I don't get sung to, or have my locker decorated. Also, I can't ever decide who to invite to my parties, because I haven't seen people in 3 months. I wanted it in late spring so I could have a pool partt with my friends. Oh well, I will survive.

Posted by Sarah @ 08/20/2003 10:22 AM PST


The Whorehouse session
was, for the most part, fun. We
had some technical problems
with headphones (this was
recorded in Dallas at a studio
that was not used to having a
cast of thirty along with six or
seven musicians. But Miss
Ann-Margret was great and we
had a blast together, and the
rest of the cast did a great job.
We still managed to wrap the
session by eight o'clock, which
is no mean feat for a cast
album.

The Pete 'n' Keely sessions
were a breeze from start to
finish. Planning the album,
what bits would be on it, was
also fun. And Sally and
George are divoon to work
with.

WEL - I'm sure we'll have a
few celeb chats when the
album is released. I don't like
to repeat people who are
doing these elsewhere and
since the elsewhere is
pursuing everyone I've ever
worked with with some zeal I
just don't want to go there and
compete right now. But, yes,
we will. There should be a
new interview up soon, within
the next week or so - and there
will be a few going up regularly
after that. It takes me a long
time to do the questions for
these, so I apologize for the
delay sometimes.

Posted by bk @ 08/20/2003 10:24 AM PST


LOL ... Thanks, DR Sarah, for the beautifully sung rendition of "Happy Birthday." You done made me very happy today. :-)

Posted by Susan @ 08/20/2003 10:27 AM PST


To All DRs:

I've never had my e-mail address taken by a virus that cruised the Web by virtue of the fact that I put "nospam" in my e-mail address. I tell people who want to write me to remove those letters from my email address; the virus doesn't know to do that. You might want to adopt this habit.

To DR Sarah:

If you really want to surprise people and sing little known songs, get in touch with me and I'll put you in touch with Bob Grimes, who has been collecting sheet music from shows since the 40s. He's been an invaluable resource for many cabaret singers and I even put BK in touch with Bob for one of his CDs (one of the Unsung Musicals or Lost in Boston series, I forget which, but Bob's credited on the CD).

For Ask BK Day:

I take it from the Unseemly Gallery that tennis was once important to you in your youth and into adulthood. Do you still play? And how well? I picked a racquet again last year after a 20 year layoff and was shocked by how much the game had sped up (due to new racquet technology) and how much my body had slowed down. Not a great combination.

For Ask DR Day:

What sports do the rest of you folks like to indulge in, if any?

Posted by VinTek @ 08/20/2003 10:27 AM PST


BK..

you never answered my question and I am headed out to lunch..

What should I have.. and what will you be lunching on?

Posted by Craig @ 08/20/2003 10:27 AM PST


I don't know where I will be
lunching yet.

You should have beans. I feel
that would be a good thing for
you to eat. Your co-workers
will be very appreciative.

VinTek - it is Guy Haines who
is a fan of tennis, not I. This is
HIS site, after all, and we are
all mere minions, oh, yes, we
are all mere minions. Do
minions eat onions? Do
onions eat minions? Do
minions eat scallions?

Now, even though I know
nothing of tennis, I did appear
in a film about tennis entitled
Racquet. Possibly one of the
ten worst movies ever made.

Posted by bk @ 08/20/2003 10:44 AM PST


So what you are saying, DW Bruce is that your movie Racquet didn't cause a racquet - or even a ruckus. Ruckus.. there is an interesting word. Who thought that up. Wow.. things are really loud and bawdy - we have ourselves a RUCKUS. Then again, bawdy is a weird one too..

Oh.. you can just TELL I have been reading the original Benjamin Kritzer now, can't you?

Posted by Craig @ 08/20/2003 10:46 AM PST


My birthday is September 3, and it was more often than not the first day of school. In fact, it was the first day of rehearsal for a tour I did a year or so ago, and when we introduced ourselves I said my name and announced that it was my birthday! I used to do that in school, too, otherwise I'd miss it!

Posted by Joy @ 08/20/2003 10:49 AM PST


VinTek: I enjoy watching baseball and playing softball. In fact, if any of you DR's live in NYC and want to come cheer me on, I'll be playing softball at 7:00 tomorrow night (Thursday) at the North Meadow in Central Park, Field #4.

Posted by Joy @ 08/20/2003 10:56 AM PST


There is a Sophie Tucker joke I remember liking, but I only remember the punch line...not the set up.

It goes: "So do I, Ernie. You've been munching grass the past 10 minutes."

Anyone?

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/20/2003 10:56 AM PST


DR Ron Pulliam, I keep forgetting to say that you are one of the funniest people who doesn't mean to be funny. Seriously, every time you post, I crack up. Or perhaps I've had too much sugar...No, I think it's because you're funny. Thank you :)

Susan, you're welcome!

VinTek: That would be fantastic! Click on my name and email me w/ details.

I love watching any sport on TV, even golf. The only sports that bore me are "foriegn" ones like cricket and polo and rugby, but probably only because I don't know the rules. I LOVE going to NFL football games, especially up in the nosebleed cheap seats, because thats where the best fans are. Hockey games are fun too, lots of drunk, screaming fans. And I love to play basketball, my height is a virtue :)

Posted by Sarah @ 08/20/2003 11:14 AM PST


Jrand---
The actual soundtrack CD will be on the Rhino label. I am assuming it will be from their Rhino Handmade division which is where all their classic soundtracks have been coming from for the last year or two. These are sold only on their website and they do not show up until they are available for shipping (no pre-orders). Go to WWW.Rhino.Com and select Handmade. Keep checking there until you see it listed. I usually post something here when they have a new CD available. It's due out sometime in September along with LucyMame and a couple of MGM B Musicals.

Posted by William E. Lurie @ 08/20/2003 11:17 AM PST


My folks severely limited the number of hours of television I was allowed to watch when I was a kid. Of course, there was sneaking around to subvert this, and the moment they were out of the house, that thing was ON.

I dimly recall enjoying Wonderama with Sonny Fox, and, years later, long after he'd left the show, I met him. But as I'd been raised to think of celebrities as just plain folks this was no big deal. Besides, how big of a celebrity was Sonny Fox?

The song from a family film I can't sing without crying is Feed the Birds. I've heard that Walt Disney was particularly fond of it, and would often call the Sherman Brothers to their office to play it on the piano and sing it to him. I can see why.

Just ate another caesar salad. I've temporarily become something of a vegetarian because I just don't trust that the local food purveyors aren't selling perishables that, well, perished, during the power outage. I love the word "outage." I wish there were also a word "inage" which one could rhyme with "spinach" and I'd list that as my favorite sport.

Posted by Noel @ 08/20/2003 11:17 AM PST


I have adopted the "NOSPAM" suggestion, thank you DR VinTek.

In honor of "Ask BK/DR" Day, I have created the following quiz. This is your chance, Dear Reader, to prove that you really do read BK's notes (yesterday it was alleged that we don't even read the notes and skip right to the living room without even greeting our charming and informative host). Answers will be posted later.

QUIZ

1. What kind of Wednesday is it today?

2. Yesterday BK was in a lather and did not do what?

3. Calm anagrammed is _?

4. Cool anagrammed is _?

5. Like the song he posted today, BK is cool as a _?

6. What new item(s) can we find on Juliana's Journal today?

*EXTRA CREDIT--Of the people mentioned in #6, who wears glasses?

7. What motion picture entertainment on DVD did BK watch last night?

*EXTRA CREDIT--How was it?

8. With whom is BK lunching today?

GOOD LUCK!

Posted by Joy @ 08/20/2003 11:23 AM PST


I remember Sonny Fox and Wonderama. Sonny Fox led the most incredible game of Simon Says!

Posted by Jay @ 08/20/2003 11:25 AM PST


Dear Reader Ron:

To post the answer to your question here would be most unseemly. Check your e-mail.

Posted by Jay @ 08/20/2003 11:31 AM PST


DR Jay --
I'd like to hear it, too. I love unseemly jokes. Will you please remove the NOSPAM from my email address and email it to me? Thank you!

Posted by Joy @ 08/20/2003 11:34 AM PST


Jay is correct that joke is MOST unseemly.

Thanks for answering my question, Mr BK. Great choice!

Bill - Ihave signed up for the HANDMADE email list so I will get a notice when GYPSY and
MAME (!) are available! Who would have thought I could get two Lisa Kirk cd's at the same time?

DR Joy - I don't test well!

Also...if you want to keep your system from being used as a co-conspirator in "spamming" - add a fictitious name beginning with a number to your address book:

For example 52Eric@phony.net

For some reason the virus or whatever will stop sending emails to your list if it comes upon one that doesn't work...and an email address beginning with a number will always be at the top of the list.

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/20/2003 11:50 AM PST


Dear Reader Joy--

Had a bit of trouble sending the e-mail. Please let me know if you did (or did not) receive it.

Posted by Jay @ 08/20/2003 11:50 AM PST


My question for BK day, and also for the other DRs,... did you ever take a chance on a DVD of a film you had not seen before, nor knew much about, but then it became one of your favorite films?

For me that would be a Japanes film called MANJI. It plays like a cross between a Douglas Sirk soap opera with the histrionics of VALLEY OF THE DOLLS thrown in for good measure. It is great fun and, for a film from 1960, it is also very daring in it's handling of the Lesbian plot-line. Some great 1960s hairdos are on had as well!

Posted by MBarnum @ 08/20/2003 11:57 AM PST


I often take chances on DVDs
of things I haven't seen. I
really liked Lured with Lucille
Ball, directed by Sirk. Also, I'd
never seen The Honeymoon
Killers and I really liked that. I
also take chances on a lot of
foreign films that I've missed
over the years, most of which
I've liked very much.

Posted by bk @ 08/20/2003 12:10 PM PST


Jayrand---
If you are a Lisa Kirk fan besure and getthe new CD with about 25 singles she made in the early 50s. I don't know the name off hand but it's on an English label.

Posted by William E. Lurie @ 08/20/2003 12:17 PM PST


Joy,

I am in SoCal, so cannot attend your game, but I will be there in spirit, cheering. Oh, and you're welcome, regarding the nospam suggestion. You'll find that it not only thwarts viruses, but as you'd expect, it cuts down on the spam.

Sarah,

I will try and drop you a note tonight, after I call Bob and let him know you'll be contacting him. He's getting on in years and he loves hearing from young people because it means that the music he loves lives on. Since I'm in SoCal, you may not hear from me before you go to bed.

Posted by VinTek @ 08/20/2003 12:18 PM PST


C'mon where IS everyone?????

Posted by Phil @ 08/20/2003 12:19 PM PST


Dan - my mother can trace her roots back to de Maisonneuve, the founder of Montreal. Her mother was second generation Canadian who's family was mainly Irish/Scottish/British. My mom grew up in a mainly Irish area of town with some Ukrainians, Romanians, Jews and French people thrown in here and there. :)

Posted by Emily @ 08/20/2003 12:20 PM PST


For Ask BK Day - What vocalists would you most like to work with (four total; one each male and female, living and dead)?

And what song would be your pick for each of them to record?

Posted by Phil @ 08/20/2003 12:26 PM PST


Ho Hum Pigs Bum...It's hotter than the land of the devil here.

VinTek: Thanks!

DR's: What is greater than God, more evil than the Devil, the poor have it, the rich need it, and if you eat it, you'll die?

-15% of Ivy League students get this question wrong, while 70% of kindergarten children get it right-

Posted by Sarah @ 08/20/2003 12:32 PM PST


Living:
I've said it before - Babs
Streisand, IF she'd get out of
her own way. If she wouldn't,
then maybe Astrid Gilberto.

I'd love to make a record with
Andy Williams.

Dead:
TOO HARD, but certainly I
would love to have made a
record with Danny Kaye or der
Bingle, singing songs of my
choice, and for women, I
would love to have worked with
Judy Holliday.

Posted by bk @ 08/20/2003 12:33 PM PST


DR Sarah:

the answer is.........

NOTHING

good riddle :)

Posted by Emily @ 08/20/2003 12:35 PM PST


To Philip Crosby:

re: Best Little Whorehouse. Bruce said this:

I had a blast working with Ann-Margret, and yes I did tell her that I was totally smitten with her from Bye, Bye Birdie. I have the feeling she hears that a lot

Posted by Michael @ 08/20/2003 12:45 PM PST


Emily,

I thought of that answer, but it can't be right. The poor do not have nothing, nor do the rich need nothing.

Any other answers? I'm stumped.

Posted by Dave @ 08/20/2003 12:47 PM PST


Ask BK Day:

1) If you were to do a male version of A Broadway Love Story what songs would you chose?

2) If you were to do a gay version of A Broadway Love Story what songs would you chose?

For BK or DR

Wanting to make sure I get optimum quality from my progressive scan DVD player. I have some question

What is PCM Down Sampling and exactly does it do?

What is dynamic compression?

What is component video (jacks Pr, Pb & Y) and why is it better than a S Video connect?
a) Are there special cables or can you use monster connections?

Posted by Michael @ 08/20/2003 12:58 PM PST


Re: all the virus going around. One of them is Wicked Screensaver. It has nothing to do with the musical by Stephen Schwartz

Posted by Michael @ 08/20/2003 01:00 PM PST


Well DR MBarnum, I may have to track down my own copy of the MANJI DVD...it sounds too good to resist.

And thanks for the heads up on the Lisa Kirk CD, Bill...I will try to find it. Yes, I am a fan.

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/20/2003 01:03 PM PST


Actually Dave, Emily is right :)

I see what you're saying, but I think it was based on moral values lol :) People are taught that if you're rich, you don't need anything, and when you're poor, you have nothing. Get it? I hope thats not insulting...

Posted by Sarah @ 08/20/2003 01:04 PM PST


Oh...and look at all the Virgo babies here on HHW!!

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/20/2003 01:04 PM PST


Wow... Sharon, Lois, & Bram!
Haven't thought of them in
quite awhile. I was definitely a
fan of theirs, particularly Lois,
while Sharon was just too
sickly sweet for my taste, even
as a wee sprig of a twig of a
lad. I do remember when their
TV show came to our US
cable, but I was a touch old (in
my own mind, at least) for it by
then. Other fave kiddy music I
recall would include Tim
Noah, RosenShontz and The
Tickle Toon Typhoon. Oh, and
I've always thought the lyric
was, as Dan suggested,
skinnamarink.

As for my birthday, I've never
had any problem with the one
I've got (October 26), so no
real desire to ever change it.

Sports... I'm a sports guy, as
evidenced by how often ESPN
is on my TV. Not too big on
basketball anymore, follow all
of major league baseball but
only watch Mariners games,
and I'll watch any NFL game
regardless of who's playing
(and I don't miss a Seahawks
game, painful as they can be).

Posted by Jed @ 08/20/2003 01:10 PM PST


Oh, yes JRand52 soon to be 53 you must get ye a copy of MANJI, you would love it! It really is a very entertaining movie, and sometimes quite hysterical!

Posted by MBarnum @ 08/20/2003 01:11 PM PST


BK, please dig up Astrud Gilberto for a new CD....I love her singing. I think it might be a bit of an aquired taste, but I think she is fantastic and her rendition of GIRL FROM IPANEMA is such a classic!

Posted by MBarnum @ 08/20/2003 01:15 PM PST


DR Noel: You wrote, "I wish there were also a word "inage" which one could rhyme with 'spinach' and I'd list that as my favorite sport."

Character actor par excellence Eric Blore pronounced "spinach" as "spinage" in a scene in "Top Hat" -- he was telling Fred Astaire about a meal he had ordered for Edward Everett Horton. Blore steals all his scenes.

DR Sarah: Thank you. That's the nicest compliment I've received in a long time!

DR Jay: I look forward to reading the complete joke when I get home! Thanks!

Am still experiencing moments of near-hysteria when I think of that "comment" in last night's episode of "Queer Eye..." It was so unexpected, so crude and all the funnier because of it!

S-i-g-h!

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/20/2003 01:17 PM PST


Sarah,

Well, I guess that explains why the smart people aren't able to answer the riddle. ;-)

There is an easy way to answer the Sharon, Lois & Bram question. Just click on my name.

I was never a fan, and only really listened to/watched them when my son was in a mood to hear their songs. My wife bought a cassette for the car. It didn't take long for that cassette to get "lost". I've been fortunate that my son shows remarkably good taste in television and music. Almost everything he likes is something that I can enjoy with him. He never watched Teletubbies or Barney, thank goodness...

Posted by Dave @ 08/20/2003 01:26 PM PST


As long as he didn't watch the Wiggles, I think you're good. The Wiggles are evil, evil men. "Fruit Salad" is the spawn of Satan. Never watch it.

And yes, I think thats the exact reson why Ivy League-ers couldnt answer it :)

DR Ron Pulliam: You're welcome :)

Posted by Sarah @ 08/20/2003 01:33 PM PST


Jed You're right about the Seahawks being painful to watch, but remember that Coach Holmgren has promised us (again) that this is our year. At least we have the Mariners to keep it exciting for us.

Maybe it is one of those viruses that is affecting my home computer. The whole system seemed to crash last night, and this morning it kept locking up on me everytime I tried getting online. Being the computer genius that I am, if that is the problem, I’m doomed.

Posted by TCB @ 08/20/2003 01:39 PM PST


Just wanted to let you all know, I recorded "Somewhere Over The Rainbow", and it's up for grabs. I don't know how you were looking at the last song, but I like this one a lot better, so email me if you want it :)

Oh, and I put the No Spam thing in my email, just delete it. when you send.

Posted by Sarah @ 08/20/2003 01:42 PM PST


Get the OBC to "Seesaw" and revel in the songs Michelle Lee sings.

It's a great score and she has some fantastic songs, including "Nobody Does It Like Me" and "He's Good For Me."

Click on my name for a link to the Amazon.com page where a few samples are available. It's a great source of tour-de-force songs for "belters"!

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/20/2003 02:04 PM PST


The post above (from me) was for Sarah's delectation!

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/20/2003 02:04 PM PST


I grew up with Captain Kangaroo and Sesame Street. (This was before the days of the evil Elmo.)

Children (and parents) are lucky today, in that there are so many more choices for quality children's programming.

I mentioned that my son has remarkably good taste. When he was only three years old, I would ask him what songs he would like to hear while we ate breakfast together. Most children might ask for Raffi or Sharon, Lois and Bram at that age, but not my boy. His response? "110 IN THE SHADE" Every day, for a month.

Honestly, there is nothing cuter than a 3-year-old boy with a bowl of cheerios, singing "It's gonna rain a munf of Sundays.."

Unless it's a 5-year-old boy trying to sing "Sixteen Tons" along with his daddy... ;-)

Posted by Dave @ 08/20/2003 02:19 PM PST


Ah, what a lovely day. I spent the day in DC and had lunch with a friend of mine. I also went on a spending spree, which is inevitable whenever I go into the city. I bought some pretty cool things though.

1) William Finn's Elegies
2) The Devil's Dictionary by Ambrose Bierce. That book is absa-freaking-lutely hilarious. It's pretty much a dictionary for the cynically minded. I'm up to B so far and here are some of the funniest entries...

Absurdity--n. A statement of belief manifestly inconsistent with one's own opinion.

Ambition--n. An overmastering desire to be vilified by enemies while living and made ridiculous by friends when dead.

Back--n. The part of your friend which it is your privelege to contemplate in your adversity.

Belladonna--n. In Italian, a beautiful lady; In English, a deadly poison. A striking similarity of the essential identity of the two tongues.

3. Another book called Wicked French for the Traveler. This book contains gems like Cela vous ennuyerait de me couper les ongles des orteils? (Would you mind clipping my toenails?) and Est-ce-que vous avez ete examine pour la rage recemment? (Have you been checked for rabies recently?)

After splurging on things I didn't really need, I saw Camp. I loved this movie. Sure, some of the characters were cliches and Vlad was the biggest f***wit since Hugh Grant's character in Bridget Jones' Diary, but the performers, theatre jokes and production numbers were wonderful. My favorites were Anna Kendrick singing the Ladies Who Lunch and Turkey Lurkey Time. And Sondheim himself made an appearance...let's just say without giving away the plot, that I would have had the exact same reaction to him as the camp kids had.

Sarah--I loved Sharon, Lois and Bram when I was growing up too! The dancing elephant seemed to be then the epitome of cool :)

Jose--I am one of those people who have a birthday near Christmas, and believe me, it ain't so great. There are some people (re: relatives) who are cheap enough to buy you one thing and write on the card Have a Happy Birthday AND Merry Christmas.

For ask BK day--did you see Camp yet and what did you think of it?

And I believe that this is officially the longest post I've ever written.

Posted by Maya @ 08/20/2003 02:25 PM PST


Well, I'm almost all packed! And that's a true almost! I've basically had my clothes laying in piles on my bedroom floor for the past few days, so all I had to do was put them in my suitcase. Very easy, and a whole lot quicker than I had planned - only about 30 minutes tops! I even went ahead and made a laundry run, and picked up my car from the service station - it passed! -It did need a couple of bulbs replaced, but, hey, my car turns 10 years old next week, so... Good car, Good car.

Hmmm.. I may even cook tonight!

Until later...

Posted by Jose C. Simbulan @ 08/20/2003 02:33 PM PST


Maya,

My wife's birthday also falls very close to Christmas, and she is none too happy about it, either. For one thing, so many people are away on vacation over the holidays that it is virtually impossible to plan a party on her birthday. Plus, as you point out, some people view it as a chance to "cheap out" on the gifts. Believe me, at my house not only is that not permitted, it is also verboten to use Christmas wrapping paper on a birthday gift. Major no-no.

Speaking of birthdays, with just 23 days left, I hope all the DRs have done their shopping... ;-)

Posted by Dave @ 08/20/2003 02:34 PM PST


DR TCB: Best of luck with your computer. I think that was selfish wish! In some places it is already your birthday.
In honour of your birthday I shall be doing something I love. Back much later! (To try and email you).

Posted by Tom from Oz @ 08/20/2003 02:47 PM PST


Oh, and DR Maya - My niece's birthday is right around Christmas - Christmas Eve I believe - sorry, I just have too many dates and times and flight numbers running through my head right now... My brother and his wife hold a birthday party for her in September - I guess it's kind of like celebrating the possible date of her conception. ;-) -But don't some cultures do that already?

My friend, Rachel's family is FILLED with Christmas week birthdays - she herself, one of her sisters, one of her brothers, and her mother. Apparently, her extended family is also filled with end of the year birthdays. To semi-quote Fiddler On the Roof - Tradition?!?!?.

DR Michael - I'm not sure about the more technical questions, but you can use standard RCA-type cables like Monster cables or your component inputs.

*I was actually shopping for new patch cables a few weeks ago - What the heck is driving the price of wires wrapped in rubber with input and output ends on them up so high?!?!?!? Some brands run almost $5.00/foot or more!!! I still remember when you could get 20 feet of a decent, shielded 1/4-inch cable for only $10.00 or cheaper. But the cheapest one I could find a few weeks ago was priced $35.00!!!! Definitely not the "bargain" price for the bargain brand. Needless to say, I decided to hold off on my purchase just in case it was just a "Richmond thing". A friend of mine who makes his own cables can put together a nice set for me for only $10.00! And that's even for TWO cables!!

Ohhh... was that a rant/... I better get back to my final packing... -Don't forget the passport, Don't forget the passposrt...

I'll see you soon Tom! And in OZ!

Posted by Jose C. Simbulan @ 08/20/2003 02:50 PM PST


I have nothing much to add today, but it's been fun reading the postings. Any of you Canadians remember The Friendly Giant? The calmest show on television. He made Mr. Rogers seem manic.

Posted by Panni @ 08/20/2003 02:50 PM PST


Jose- If she was concieved in September, I sincerely doubt she'd be born by Christmas Eve :)

I always liked the show Eureka's Castle when I was little. The dancing worms were cool, and the fish on the side of the castle...it's weird how I have weird memories of certain shows...there was one in Nickelodeon called Weinerville, and it was like "risque" for me lol...And Roundhouse...

Posted by Sarah @ 08/20/2003 02:58 PM PST


Dave and Jose--thanks for the birthday/Christmas anecdotes! You know, on several occasions I actually have thought about moving my birthday celebration (and present receiving, hehe). Except that might confuse everyone and I would end up getting like half my presents in June and half in December :)

Sarah--the best character in Eureka's Castle, IMO, was Magellan the Dinosaur. And those two furry ugly things that swam around in the moat that looked like they had some kind of muppet leprosy!

Posted by Maya @ 08/20/2003 03:04 PM PST


Sorry, Donna, I'm going to
have to pull your post because
it caused us to go into 70mm.
Please post those links, which
are too long to post in the body
of a post (hence the 70mm)
where your e-mail address
goes - you'll have to do three
separate posts, but it's the
only way.

Posted by bk @ 08/20/2003 03:05 PM PST


BK - So sorry.

Posted by Donna @ 08/20/2003 03:08 PM PST


Another question. Over the end titles of All That Jazz, Ethel Merman sings "No Business Like Show Business". The end titles continue to roll after the song finishes. But wasn't there another song or piece of music that went after it?

When All That Jazz was first in the theaters I went to see it because I thought it was the musical version of Chicago.

It is interesting to point out that during the scene of the first read thru Joe Gideon shows a mock up of the set. That set is really Tony Walton's design for the original production of Chicago!

Posted by Michael @ 08/20/2003 03:08 PM PST


Bruce,

You once discussed who you would cast if there were to be a Broadway revival of "L'il Abner," but I don't remember the answer. So, rather than searching for it, I would like you to state who you would cast NOW if a revial were to be done.

Also, how do you think a show like Abner would fare in today's world?

Posted by Kerry @ 08/20/2003 03:10 PM PST


DR Joy, you and I share the same birthday.

Favorite childhood song was "The Second Star to the Right" from PETER PAN. When I started taking piano, I begged and begged my teacher to get that for me to learn. She wouldn't do it. So, once I got reasonably proficient on the piano, I went to a music store and bought an entire folio of Disney hits, and it was in there, so I eventually got my wish. For years, I'd entertain relatives with my Disney medley on the piano.

For Ask BK Day: Which classic or near classic movie which has the admiration of most of the world can you personally not stand to watch? (This was asked in ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY recently, and I thought it was a great question. The critic picked JULES ET JIM.)

Posted by Matt H. @ 08/20/2003 03:11 PM PST


All I can say is that this SOBIG virus is totally annoying. When I started getting suspect e-mail with attachments the other day, I thought it was because I had recently created a profile on Yahoo! to access some groups. I see now that the problem is unrelated to that and quite widespread.

Posted by Jay @ 08/20/2003 03:23 PM PST


If you click on my name, I found an anti-virus type thing that supposedly clears your computer of the SOBIG thing. I ran it on mine, and it said it didn't find SOBIG, so I must just be getting junk emails. I suggest you try it though, my friend runs a Harry Potter related website, and they get thousands of hits every day. Since everyone and their mother has it, whenever someone visits MuggleNet (the site), they get 5-10 more emails, which is a pain in the butt. My friends' email account was so full that for every email he deletes, he got 2 more. But when everyone ran this tool, the emails slowed down significantly. So it works, and its fast, use it!

Posted by Sarah @ 08/20/2003 03:35 PM PST


Noel wrote:

What advice is given to brides? I'm looking for advice of two sorts:

1) General, traditional instructions on what a wife should do

2) Instructions particular to the wedding night

This is to help me write a song for the bridesmaids to sing at our wedding. The song's supposed to start with the traditional 1) advice, sung by the four ladies in counterpoint. Then, they stop the song, and say that what they really want to sing about is the wedding night, 2), at which point the musical switches from classical madrigal to rock.

Did you try doing a search on wedding traditions?

Check out these sites. The first has the something old, something new ...

online96.com/weddings/tradi/
2become1weddings.com/article_tradition_others.htm

weddings.co.uk/info/tradsup.htm
weddingsgalore.com/traditions.html

weddinglinks.com/articles/montero1.html

partypros.com/wedtrad.htm

Posted by Jennifer @ 08/20/2003 03:53 PM PST


BK: You might want to confer with Mr. Mark Bakalor on this, but whenever I have a link and post it into my "e-mail address" field, nothing happens when people click on my name other than a blank e-mail page popping up. I've found, however, that by posting the link into the "home page" field, then anyone clicking on my name is automatically linked to the desired site.

This may not be true for everyone, so I'm only throwing that out there as something that works for me.

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/20/2003 03:56 PM PST


Wow, I'm thinkin' we might just
make 100 posts today.

Michael Shayne - if I were to do
a male and also a gay version
of A Broadway Love Story I
would use the same songs,
but I would change the keys.

MattH (the REAL Matt, not the
door Matt) - good question. I
know it is sacrilege, but I have
never liked Gone With the
Wind. I just don't get it. I've
watched it seven or eight
times in an effort to try to get it,
but I just sit there like so much
fish, bored to tears. I know it's
a failing, but there you are.

Kerry - I can't remember either.
I think Abner would be a hit -
it's as relevant today as it was
back then, if not more so, and
the jokes are great. I open the
floor (no mean feat) to casting
ideas.

Posted by bk @ 08/20/2003 03:56 PM PST


Are we in 70mm again? It's
hard to tell here at work.
Someone post if we are, so I
can fix it.

Posted by bk @ 08/20/2003 03:58 PM PST


Esteemed BK and Dear Readers all over the world, I have questions for you!

I'm seriously going to jump back into the dating pool, so, I'm going to ask for friendly advice from a choice bunch of friends.

What is the WORST pick-up line that has ever been used ON you?
What is the BEST pick-up line that has been used ON you?

What is the WORST pick-up line that you have used?
What is the BEST pick-up line that you have used?

What is the most SEEMLY place to go to track down potential dates? (Should I be hanging around the meat section at the local grocery store?)
What is the most UNSEEMLY place to go to track down potential dates? (Hey, I wanna keep all of my options open).

Has anyone ever used any of the online dating/matchmaking services? Were they any good?

For my first date with a new someone, should it be dinner and a movie? only a movie? invite that someone into my home and whip out the dvds? If I go for a walk in the woods, I'll be sure not to forget my flashlight.

How many dates should I go on with ONE PERSON before deciding that there really isn't anything worthwhile about them?
How many dates should I go on with many people before dropping several and settling for one?

Oh, and BK and DRs, remember - I date figs.

Posted by td @ 08/20/2003 04:04 PM PST


Here's my question for Ask DR day--

What do you know about HANS BRINKER or THE SILVER SKATES? Can anyone get me a copy of any recording that has been made?

I've been offered to MD (first time!) this show and I'm ecstatic.

Emily- e-mail me. I researched from a while back and saw that you have a CD that I want :)

Posted by Paulie @ 08/20/2003 04:05 PM PST


TD--ya know, my last few boyfriend experiences have been so traumatic that I honestly cannot remember any pick up lines--I think I've blurred the guys out of my memory, lol. But a very seemly place to find a date for me would be a theatre or library, and a very unseemly place would be if I went into a gay bar. I somehow don't think I'd have any luck there, lol.

BK--I bet my Ask BK question got buried in my ridiculously long post :) Did you see the movie Camp and what did you think of it?

Posted by Maya @ 08/20/2003 04:16 PM PST


Dear Reader Sarah--

Thanks so much for the link. It ends up that my computer is not infected. Which doesn't prevent, I suppose, infected computers from inundating my e-mail with virus-ridden spam.

Now who says this here site doesn't serve any practical purpose?

And yes, Dear Reader Ron is correct: if you want to provide a link to dear readers, the url should be placed in the "Homepage" slot.

Posted by Jay @ 08/20/2003 04:19 PM PST


I know it was asked of BK, but I just have to jump in here. The classic movie that I cannot stand to watch (and haven't since it first came out) Kubrick's 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY. Bores me to bloody tears. In fact, I'm not a particular big fan of Kubrick's at all after SPACE ODYSSEY. Find him cold and uninvolving. I like his early stuff like PATHS OF GLORY & SPARTACUS...before he became an "auteur".

Posted by Charles Pogue @ 08/20/2003 04:21 PM PST


Haven't seen Camp yet. It's
playing in one tiny theater
here, and I can't stomach tiny
theaters. Tiny Dancers, yes,
Tiny Theaters, no.

My favorite Kubricks are
Spartacus, The Killing and
Lolita, and Dr. Strangelove.
While I hated The Shining
when it was originally
released, it has grown on me
(like a fungus) in subsequent
years.

Posted by bk @ 08/20/2003 04:25 PM PST


Dear Reader TD--

I have heard that a popular pick-up line at a bar frequented by numerous senior citizens from the nearby retirement community is "Do I come here often?"

Posted by Jay @ 08/20/2003 04:30 PM PST


"Are those astronaut pants? Because your body is out of this world!"

For more, click on my name to be taken to a book by an aquaintance of mine, Tucker Max. Now he can literally say "I WROTE the book on pickup lines." I think that was his intention.

Posted by Sarah @ 08/20/2003 04:34 PM PST


One of my favorite pickup lines
is, "If I agree to date you will
you rub my feet." That works
every time.

Jeans, a Benjamin Kritzer golf
shirt available right here at
haineshisway.com (and no,
Virginia, I do not make any
money on our products).

Posted by bk @ 08/20/2003 04:39 PM PST


Does NOBODY want to hear "Somewhere Over the Rainbow"? (besides DR Craig) I swear it's not bad, although you've got me thinking it might be...

BK, you tok the thought right out of my head. At the moment, I'm trying on new school clothes, and I'm wearing blue jeans, a white stretchy tank top, and a light green sweatshirt over it that says American Eagle on it. And brown Dr. Martens.

Posted by Sarah @ 08/20/2003 04:50 PM PST


And NO THONG. Send your
song to ME, Sarah - you don't
even have to ask, just do it
automatically.

Posted by bk @ 08/20/2003 04:52 PM PST


Oh my, oh my, oh my! (That's three oh my!s!)

I always take so long reading the posts, that I don't have time to add my own. So, before I read the posts (and of course I never read BK's Notes, and never, never, never read the Meltz and Ernest songs, such as the brilliant one that appears above and the even brillianter one that appeared yesterday.) ...

So without reading nuffin', I will cut to the chase. (Oy, I hate to think what the buff and loony Bruce Kimmel would do with that phrase!)

My question for BK and all and sun-dried: why does everyone now insist on writing mic? I know it is short for microphone, and microphone is spelt with a c, and so it is graphically correct, but it is phonetically confusing.

Back in the Good Old Bad Old Days (oh, and Anthony Newley reference!) we all wrote mike, and we said it that way.

When I see mic, I think Jagger. When I see mike, I think Wallace.

So why does everyone write Jagger and say Wallace? Surely, BK, who has excellent consonants, has an answer.

Posted by William F. Orr @ 08/20/2003 05:10 PM PST


What a lot of questions! It's almost like having a lot of flowers! (Close enough to be a Leslie Bricusse reference, if you ask me.)

When it comes to on-screen television personalities, I have very definate memories of Engineer Bill et al, who BK so thoughtfully bio-ed in that television special he produced. I really wish someone would release that special on DVD. They were so much better than what my grandlads are seeing on the tube today. (Wiggles, blech. Maybe in small doses, about three seconds long at most.)

Most of the children's television that I remember was composed quite heavily of old Looney Tunes cartoons. I can remember those cartoons from before they were edited of all the "violent" parts, which shows how old I am, I guess. I really should get a collection of them started, so that the grandlads can see them in their unimpaired glory. (That, and der Brucer and I need to get the laserdisc player cleaned and repaired; we have some of the old Warners material already, including a disc of the entire Chuck Jones Roadrunner cartoon series.)

I'm very happy that the Rocky & Bullwinkle & Friends, Season One DVD is out now. That series seriously warped my mind when I was young, as it did many others. I have a hunch our own BK may have unseemly memories of that show. The restoration of the material on the DVD is quite good, and it is as funny as ever. My major task now is to get the overly news concious der Brucer to watch the discs, instead of Bill O'Reilly. ("Nothing up my sleeve," I say as I covertly sabotage the TV remote.)

This somewhat seques to Jose's question about birthday date changing. I personally wouldn't want to change my birthday date for anything, since it is in the middle of August (just happened again this Sunday, in fact). August is a boring boring boring month, and having a birthday in the middle gives me something to look forward to.

And Joy was asking for opinions of Fantasia 2000. I think it holds well in comparision to the original. The "Rhapsody in Blue" sequence is wonderfully done (watch for Hirshfeld and his wife Dolly dashing from the revolving doors!), and the "Pomp and Circumstance March" is consistantly funny after repeated viewings. I personally think the "Hills of Rome" whales are beautiful, and they don't confuse me at all, they just are. The only sequence that displeases me, in fact, is the opening with Beethovan's Five Seconds Flat, which lacks charm and is frankly quite ugly, like the color scheme of the shirts the Wiggles wear.

That's all for now. The R&B&Co. discs are calling me back to the television. Bye.

Posted by S. Woody White @ 08/20/2003 05:11 PM PST


I always liked my birthday though it was a bit sad since it is on the anniversary of Pearl Harbor Day. Jose, I would have been one of those kids you were jealous of. For me it was early birthday, birthday and late birthday presents. Then we had Chanukah and Christmas. December was a great month for me. There was one major problem with my birthday. For some reason I always had colds. Thank goodness I have outgrown that. These days, for my birthday, we have dinner at an upstairs restaurant with a wonderful view of the town. In December the downtown area of Ashland is decorated in white lights.

Posted by Jane @ 08/20/2003 05:12 PM PST


I like Tiny Dancer, too, it's one of my favorite "classic rock" songs.

Seamstress for the band...

Charles, I am seriously beginning to think that we have Vulcan mind-melded somewhere along the way. Is this possible? Asterix, Arthurian legend, and now I find out that you feel the same way about 2001 (the space odyssey, not the year) as I do. If I remember correctly, didn't we like the same Muppets as well?

TD: I wouldn't recommend the movie thing for the first couple of dates; after all, you're trying to get to know each other, and how much can you really talk in a movie? However, I think it's important after a few dates to go see a movie, because you really need to find out pretty early on if he's the kind of guy who talks during movies. Shudder.

As for the number of dates, I think you will know when it's time to stop, or keep going as the case may be.

Pick-up lines: I only remember the bad ones, because, let's face it, pretty much any "line" is going to make one roll one's eyes. But recently a handsome man with dreadlocks held the door for me in my building and asked if I was married. I responded yes (too long to explain that I'll be married in two months), and he said, "That's too bad for me, you're cute." That's pretty good, I think. Straightforward, honest, complimentary.

Seemly place to track down dates:
I think classes and clubs are a good place, because you will find someone with common interests. Also bookstores and record stores.

Unseemly: The gym. Nothing annoys me more at the gym than getting bothered by some troll while I'm focusing on my workout. Of course, some gyms are sort of tailored to pickups, but I think it's skeevy.

My dear friend KG went on Match.com and found a wonderful man (and, to be fair, several duds). I think connecting with people on message boards can work, but romance-geared chat rooms are not so good, because there are too many weirdos trolling for s-e-x.

Good luck!

Posted by Joy @ 08/20/2003 05:22 PM PST


Pinstriped blue & gray 3/4 length sleeved fitted button-down shirt (whew) over a gray tank top, khaki wide-leg crop pants, strappy blue heels (my favorite shoes).

Posted by Joy @ 08/20/2003 05:31 PM PST


Thanks for the suggestion of The Kid Stays In The Picture. I will have to rent it sometime.

Posted by Brandon @ 08/20/2003 05:32 PM PST


Joy: I sent you the song, but I'm not if it sent or not. Did you recieve it?

Posted by Sarah @ 08/20/2003 05:37 PM PST


Joy--while I personally have not dated anyone through internet experiences (although with one guy I came very close), I do have two friends who did and both are now engaged to the guys they met over the internet. (One dated her man for a good 4 or 5 years, throughout high school). I think the internet can be a wonderful way of bringing people together, but of course one must also be very, very careful because as you said, not every guy is going to want to take you out for an ice cream soda with just a handshake in return.

I have a question for DRs--without getting too personal, what was the worst date you ever went on?

Posted by Maya @ 08/20/2003 06:18 PM PST


Oh--and I am wearing a cute little sky blue shirt with lace sleeves and lavender capri pants with embroiderd hems.

Posted by Maya @ 08/20/2003 06:19 PM PST


Aaaargh!

It's been torturing me all day, and you are the only people who can help me:

"Whatever gave your eyes this glow
Can't be wrong."

What song, please?

Posted by William F. Orr @ 08/20/2003 06:28 PM PST


dowr = down

That would be sad if I was wearing a dowr shirt, wouldn't it. How dour.

Posted by Joy @ 08/20/2003 06:31 PM PST


Thank you, Jennifer, for providing those links. But I'm afraid they didn't offer "advice to the bride" which is what I'm looking for. They listed wedding traditions, and we've long since tossed those out of Our Wedding. Nothing borrowed, nothing blue.

What I'm seeking are those words of wisdom often given to brides, both generally and about the wedding night. The "close your eyes and think of England" was a good example.

Posted by Noel @ 08/20/2003 06:31 PM PST


"Whatever gave your eyes this glow
Can't be wrong."

Yip Harburg, to Harold Arlen's tune, Right as the Rain, from Bloomer Girl

Posted by Noel @ 08/20/2003 06:34 PM PST


Hooray for Noel!

A year ago, I'd have been aghast, agape and agog at the rapidity of the erudition of the person providing an answer.

Now, I fear I take it for granted!

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/20/2003 06:39 PM PST


Sarah: Yes, I got it, and I responded to you -- did you get that?

Maya: I met my fiancee over the internet, in a place rather like this one. I couldn't be happier. You do have to exercise some common sense, though, of course.

Worst Date I Ever Went On:
This guy (not the fiancee) took me to Cracker Barrel, where I ordered a salad and a side of mashed potatoes. When we went up to pay, he called me a pig and then berated me all the way home: "You f-ing pig. Don't touch my stereo while I get gas." Of course, I did very much touch his stereo, and I wish I could say that's all I touched. But not that night -- it was several months later.

In the end, actually, I think it was worth it. I hope that's not an unseemly thing to say. hee hee.

Posted by Joy @ 08/20/2003 06:40 PM PST


Noel: I knew you would be the one to answer.

Posted by Joy @ 08/20/2003 06:41 PM PST


Dear esteemed, radiant, lathered, virile, and cucumberley BK --

Of course I (like all good H/Ks) read the morning notes, Ernest & Meltz included, before coming on in to the living room. It goes along with wiping our feet at the door, and not eating the last rugulach on the plate.

By the way oh wise Wazir....is there any way to see the documentary of your's about the L.A. area daytime kids show hosts?? That would refresh a lot of great old memories for me, as I watched all of them... "red light,,, don't drink........green light,,,dink your milk!"

By the way, the living room here at HHW is very nice with a fresh new breeze blowing through it, and clear honest light coming through the windows. I think Truly Nolen must have gotten rid of some vermin.

Posted by MusicGuy @ 08/20/2003 06:46 PM PST


Would it interest you to know that yesterday the traffic in this here joint not only went through the roof but over the moon. Other sites can try, but soon we will be the most popular site on all the Internet. Why, yesterday alone, and I kid you not, dear readers, we had over 37,000 hits, and over 1250 visits. I can also tell you that August is already our second best month and that is with NINE days to go. So, let us keep up this haineshisway.com frenzy. Let the others maniacally run around doing their "thing" - while we sit here like so much fish and have more fun than anywhere else. By the way (BTW, in Internet lingo) lest you think I'm tooting my own horn, I am, in fact, tooting YOUR horn, because we, we are family, and that is what separates us from the all the others. Or, as Mr. Newley and Mr. Bricusse once said (paraphrasing, of course): Watch out world we're comin' through, nothing can stop us now.

Posted by bk @ 08/20/2003 07:01 PM PST


I did get your message, thanks! I'm glad you liked it :)

Posted by Sarah @ 08/20/2003 07:02 PM PST


That was directed to Joy, FYI (for your information, in internet lingo).

Posted by Sarah @ 08/20/2003 07:11 PM PST


I got the Rainbow track - very nice - but I prefer a bit less riffing on my show and movie tunes. Still, Swishy Sarah has a beautiful voice, she really do.

Nike shorts and my Benjamin Kritzer golf shirt.

Posted by bk @ 08/20/2003 07:15 PM PST


DR Sarah, me, me, me!

Posted by The Den Mother @ 08/20/2003 07:18 PM PST


TD - Well, on a semi-related note... I just got back from dinner #3 in a row with my friend. And the nice thing about this friend is that he is the same friend I mentioned a few months ago. In the meantime, there were a few gigs out of town and some water - thankfully - under/over the bridge. At least it's nice to know the friendship is back on track. And a very wonderful friendship it is turning out to be. :-)

-Kind of a nice send-off for me.

And speaking of send-offs - Thanks to all the DRs who have sent me well wishes for my upcoming trip Down Under. I assure all of you that I will give Tom a nice, big ole hug on behalf of all the non-Down Under Hainsies and Kimlets. *Tom - Are you ready for that?

-And just remember that once I'm back from Australia, the Jose world tour continues stateside in Orlando, NYC, Chicago and LA! -Didn't someone say "pizza"?

DR Sarah - Thank you for the combined biology/mathematics lesson. I thought something was wrong with my computations. Now if they celebrated her birthday in March, then... Must have been a remnant of the "new math" - which I never took - or at least I don't think I did.

OH - And back to TD - I just remembered I received an e-mail from a friend of mine regarding pick up lines... I'll post the more family-friendly ones here... Otherwise, keep an eye out on your e-mailbox - and I promise, there will be no "sobig" virus attached!

Here goes - Younger DRs may need to look away. -Or stifle their laughing.

"I may not be the best-looking guy in here, but I'm the only one talking to you."

"Oh, I'm sorry, I thought that was a Braille name tag."

"I'd really like to see how you look when I'm naked."

"You might not be the best-looking guy here, but beauty is only a light switch away."

"You know, if I were you, I'd have sex with me."

"Those clothes would look great in a crumpled heap on my bedroom floor."

"Do you believe in love at first sight or should I walk by again?"

"Hi, I'm Mr. Right. Someone said you were looking for me."

"My friend wants to know if YOU think I'M cute."

"My name isn't Elmo, but you can tickle me anywhere you want to."

"I know milk does a body good, but DAMN, how much have you been drinking?"

"Dude, I'm an American Express lover... you shouldn't go home without me."

"Do you wash your jeans in Windex? ...because I can see myself in them."

-I hope I didn't push the envelope too much. I had forgotten how risque even some of the "tame" ones were/are.

OH - And just one more...

(Lick finger and wipe on his shirt)... "Let's get you out of these wet clothes."

Of course, these were the best of the worst pick up lines... Anyone buy that pamphlet they're selling around Times Square with the 1001 Pick Up Lines?

Posted by Jose C. Simbulan @ 08/20/2003 07:21 PM PST


I have to publicly thank DR Jose for the marvelous laughter he sent my way!
You all should read the risque ones too! (If you want to read them, you know how to get in touch with "td.")

AND, on a different note, D-flat, am I the ONLY dear reader to have listened to BP's new cd? You know the one with "Rose's Turn" at the end, and the greatest overture of all time at the beginning?

Posted by td @ 08/20/2003 07:38 PM PST


Jose--thanks for a good laugh! It's sad to think people actually use lines like that! And have a great trip :)

Posted by Maya @ 08/20/2003 07:39 PM PST


BK: I considered singing it normal without all of the fun stuff (riffing, etc.), but since Someone To Watch Over Me had been so blah *in my point of view*, I decided to do something a little more fun, that would show off my vocal range a tad bit more. But still, thanks for the compliment.

DR Susan, it's on its way.

Jose: Those were very very funny. Would you send me the rest? I know, I know, I'm a younger DR, but if I can understand them, then I don't think it's tooooo bad.

Posted by Sarah @ 08/20/2003 07:41 PM PST


Sarah, as a personal preference, I generally agree with BK about popping up songs like that, but in this case, you were encouraged to "make it your own", and that's exactly what you did (and quite originally, I might add).

In a cabaret show I saw recently, a young girl did "They Can't Take That Away From Me" and popped it up a little too much. It's a fine distinction between jazzing up a song like that and popping it up. Her performance was otherwise very lovely, but she lost a little of my respect for trying to pretend she was Mariah Carey.

NOT to say, of course, that that's the case with you: I reiterate what I said in line 3 of paragraph 1, above.

Oh, lordy, I need to get out of this law firm RIGHT NOW! I'm starting to become one of THEM!!

Posted by Joy @ 08/20/2003 07:51 PM PST


Then there's always the classic cheeseball lines:

"Is your father a thief? Cuz he stole the stars from the skies and put 'em in your eyes."

"If I could rearrange the alphabet, I'd put U and I together."

Posted by Joy @ 08/20/2003 08:06 PM PST


I lost my phone number. Can I have yours?

Posted by Jay @ 08/20/2003 08:07 PM PST


Oh dear. I fear we are helping Dear Reader TD with all the lines he should NOT be using and are being of no aid at all with lines he SHOULD be using.

Posted by Jay @ 08/20/2003 08:09 PM PST


Dear Reader Noel--

I guess you thought my suggestion was chopped liver.

Posted by Jay @ 08/20/2003 08:11 PM PST


Tony Sweetie, I'm afraid that you probably should steer clear of lines altogether, unless you can think of one thats cheesy yet very appealing.

You know, good conversations usually start with hello :) Thats a starting point for you.

Posted by Sarah @ 08/20/2003 08:16 PM PST


I have to be honest and say I will not be investing any money in the Bernadette Peters GYPSY. I have the Merman, Lansbury, and Daly GYPSYs on CD (and LP for the first two), and they are enough for my lifetime. (Have the Midler and Russell GYPSYs on DVD, of course.)

I think GYPSY is a masterpiece in every way, but if I never see it again, I won't feel cheated (and I'm sure I will watch the two DVDs many more times in my life.) I feel the same way about FIDDLER ON THE ROOF. I have simply overdosed on that show and want no part of it again for the foreseeable future.

Posted by Matt H. @ 08/20/2003 08:30 PM PST


I have a question for BK (medium to advanced difficulty): When you appeared on the Donny and Marie Show on the same show as the rock band America, what song did they play?

Posted by Dave in the Valley @ 08/20/2003 08:39 PM PST


Thank you, DR Sarah! I look forward to listening to it!

:-)

Posted by Susan @ 08/20/2003 09:01 PM PST


DR Sarah--

I cannot access my mail at the very moment to e-mail you personally... but can you send me your lovely recording? Thanks a million, or two.

Posted by Paulie @ 08/20/2003 09:06 PM PST


Jose AND td (who dances like the wind): Thank you for the pickup line email, I was dying laughing :) #5 was a personal favorite *smile*

Paulie: I emailed you the clip, hope you like it!

Posted by Sarah @ 08/20/2003 09:19 PM PST


Wow...what a lull.

Posted by Maya @ 08/20/2003 10:00 PM PST


Well, I am still at work, at 1:04 a.m. And that is most unseemly, don't you agree? I am waiting for someone to hand me a MEMORANDUM OF LAW. I hate law.

Posted by Joy @ 08/20/2003 10:05 PM PST


Joy--do you watch Sex and the City? You're beginning to remind me of Miranda, in terms of your work ethic!

Girl, let me quote Tracey Ullman on this one--GO HOME! :)

Posted by Maya @ 08/20/2003 10:09 PM PST


Or if you're at home, let me quote myself...Stop Working!

Posted by Maya @ 08/20/2003 10:10 PM PST


I think I did four Donny and Marie shows. I don't even remember America appearing, so I can't tell you what song they played.

Swishy Sarah - but that's precisely why I was so taken with Someone to Watch Over Me - it was simple and honest, and to my mind those are two things that can't be beat.

Posted by bk @ 08/20/2003 10:18 PM PST


You haven't heard anything from me because i've been working like crazy to get my performance major monologue ready for HSC examination. For those who may be interested, i'm playing David Helfgott, the Australian pianist as featured in the film "Shine" (with completely stunning performances of its cast). I had a performance today and it went reasonably well, looking forward to getting my critique (to improve, not because i'm confident of a fab mark).

GYPSY is one of my friend's favourite musical. We often break into a spontaneous "Rose's Turn". This friend, mind you, in 25 years will be the *perfect* Mama Rose. Which reminds me, I really should find a copy of Lansbury Gypsy.

Posted by Tyson @ 08/20/2003 10:53 PM PST


Sarah: The main thing that is wrong with many of the "American Idol" contestants is that they don't know when to leave well enough alone.

When you really haven't developed a style, all the riffing and ooh-oohing and ahh-ahhing in the world cannot help you.

It's always best to stick to the notes as written and let your voice speak for itself.

I personally hate to hear singers go all over the place on one note...it's ONE NOTE...sing that ONE NOTE -- not 35 or 40.

: )

Posted by Ron Pulliam @ 08/20/2003 10:57 PM PST


Ron, I agree with you, except when it comes to R&B or Jazz. Then, of course, you would expect some riffing. And pop. But not theatre songs and standards. But then again, I'm kind of a purist. I guess you just have to have good judgment and know when it's appropriate. So much of the time it comes off as cheesy and dishonest. Clay Aiken (of American Idol fame) ruined a perfectly good Don McLean song by riffing like a lounge lizard: Vincent, my favorite. It's the one that goes

Starry, starry night
Paint your palette blue and grey
Look out on a summer's day
With eyes that know the darkness in my soul
Shadows on the hills
Sketch the trees and daffodils
Catch the breeze and the winter chills
In colours on the snowy linen land

Now I understand
What you tried to say to me
And how you suffered for your sanity
And how you tried to set them free
They would not listen
They did not know how
Perhaps they'll listen now

Starry, starry night
Flaming flowers that brightly blaze
Swirling clouds and violet haze
Reflect in Vincent's eyes of china blue
Colours changing hue
Morning fields of amber grain
Weathered faces lined in pain
Are soothed beneath the artists' loving hand

Now I understand
What you tried to say to me
And how you suffered for your sanity
And how you tried to set them free
They would not listen
They did not know how
Perhaps they'll listen now

For they could not love you
But still your love was true
And when no hope was left inside
On that starry, starry night
You took your life as lovers often do
But I could have told you Vincent
This world was never meant for one as beautiful as you

*Starry starry night
Portraits hung in empty halls,
Frameless heads on nameless walls,
With eyes that watch the world and can't forget.*
Like the strangers that you've met
The ragged men in ragged clothes
The silver thorn of bloody rose
Lie crushed and broken on the virgin snow

Now I think I know
What you tried to say to me
And how you suffered for your sanity
And how you tried to set them free
They would not listen
They're not listening still
Perhaps they never will...

A song that good doesn't need riffing; in fact, it takes away from it. You need to riff if you're singing songs with trite, uninteresting and cliched lyrics like

We were as one, babe
For a moment in time
And it seemed everlasting
That you would always be mine
Now you want to be free
So I'll let you fly
'Cause I know in my heart, babe
Our love will never die
No

Ah has spoken!

Posted by Joy @ 08/20/2003 11:15 PM PST


Maya - I watch Sex and the City whenever I catch it. I don't get HBO, but I do like the show and I'll watch it in a hotel room or at a friend's house if I can.

I am not that dedicated, actually, I just got stuck..."we're almost done, just a couple more little things..." and suddenly it's 3 a.m. Grr.

Posted by Joy @ 08/20/2003 11:28 PM PST


--------------------> (up to here)
I've had it up to here^^^^^^^^^^do you hear?

And what is it that's up to here that I've had? E-mail! That's what! I've gotten so many viruses (viri?) over the last couple of days that I feel that I have no choice but to change my e-mail altogether. It's gone too far. All of the "bad" messages are either coming from or going to my old (and no longer existing) attbi.com e-mail. UGGH! Comcast bought them out and any e-mails being sent to the attbi.com address are being forwarded to my current Comcast address and I've had it up to here (refer again to the top of this post). So click on my name to see my new e-mail address, if you wish.

I've taken VinTek's advice and will now list it with a modification so that you humans have to manually change it for it to be able to work. If you add it to your address book, save it this way. I've added "01deletethispart-" to my e-mail address (again, not my real one, just what I've put in the box here). After my initials, the rest is zero - five - zero - five @... not capital letter oh. That's my rant and I'm done with it.

Posted by George @ 08/21/2003 01:05 AM PST


Bruce, you say you don't like Gone With the Wind. Have you seen the Carol Burnett spoof? What do you think of that version?

Posted by George @ 08/21/2003 02:01 AM PST


Now that it is today for you all in North America,and before it is Tomorrow in OZ, may I be the first to wish a wonderful birthday to the DRs who celebrate today. HAPPY BIRTHDAY.

Posted by Tom from Oz @ 08/21/2003 02:05 AM PST


Posting from work...my computer was fixed by my brother-in-law last night, which means I now have NO home computer!

@$Y^%)Q@(#^$)(!@#&$_!@&$_!

But hopefully he will be able to un-fix it this evening.

TD - it's a jungle out here. Steer clear of online services. Those people are not usually interested in ANY conversation!

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/21/2003 05:09 AM PST


There is a very nice program about Jerome Kern on the BBC. Click on my name for the link. It's one of the on-line programs for which you need Real Player (the latest version). The program is called Stage and Screen. It changes every Monday. It's similar to our own Donald's program.

Posted by Ben @ 08/21/2003 05:51 AM PST


I completly understand what you're saying, bk, Ron Pulliam, and Joy. I just happened to love that, erm, "arrangement' of SOTR, and it suits my voice well. Hmm...any ideas of songs that aren'tboring that could suit my voice type like "Someone..." did?

Oh and Joy, Vincent is one of my all time favorite songs! I remember when I first heard it in the part where it says "And when no hope was left inside on that starry, starry night, you took your lives as lovers often do..." I was all teary eyed. It's beautiful, and when Clay sang it, I almost cried again, out of sadness that he had taken a gorgeous song and displayed it to the public like THAT. Now everyone who hadn't heard that song before will think that he sang it correctly, or perfectly. Have you heard the Josh Groban version? What do you think of it?

And I think Sex and and City is one of the funniest shows on television. Samantha cracks me up :)

Posted by Sarah @ 08/21/2003 06:14 AM PST


Josh Groban does a VERY NICE version of STARRY NIGHT!

Posted by Jrand52 @ 08/21/2003 06:26 AM PST





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