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Title: THE MAN ON LINCOLN'S NOSE
Post by: bk on July 21, 2012, 12:35:15 AM
Well, you've read the notes, the notes were the Mount Rushmore of notes, and now it is time for you to post until the cows come home - they're currently rushing to Mount Rushmore.
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Post by: bk on July 21, 2012, 12:35:54 AM
And the word of the day is: FRUCTIFY!
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Post by: bk on July 21, 2012, 12:36:55 AM
Where are our usual fifty GUESTS.  There's only fifteen GUESTS right now.  This happened two weeks ago and was baffling then and is baffling now.
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Post by: Ben on July 21, 2012, 02:24:40 AM
Morning all.

That is all.
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Post by: Ben on July 21, 2012, 03:08:21 AM
Out on Long Island again for a surprise birthday party for Anthony's 75 year old aunt-in-law (his great aunt's sister). Tomorrow I return to the city and Ant stays out here for a few days to take care of some things.

Oatmeal, raisins, banana, walnuts and cinnamon and a cup of coffee.
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Post by: elmore3003 on July 21, 2012, 04:24:24 AM
Good morning, all! I'm moving a bit tentatively this morning. I didn't pull or strain anything, but I certainly was using muscles I hadn't used this strenuously for some time. I slept quite well. My lasy dream had something to do with a reunion of friends from high school.

So Round One of "the move" is over, and Round Two will occur on Tuesday. I expect to be working in chaos until the end of September, but "The Move" will be over next week. And I am happy it's partially accomplished.
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Post by: Danise on July 21, 2012, 05:38:48 AM
Good morning all! 

To answer DR Jane's question of last night:  No, I didn't come home at noon.  They were kind enough to call me first thing in the morning so I could change it.  I just hope I can change it to Thursday so I won't have to take double time off. 

I still haven't heard from the insurance company about my claim for being off for May.  I want my vacation time back.

Today is laundry day.  I will be so glad when I don't have to set my time off to going to the laundry mat and can do my clothes when I want to. 

Hope all have a wonderful day!

Vibes to all who need them.

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Post by: Michael on July 21, 2012, 05:44:51 AM
hope everyone has a great weekend
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Post by: FJL on July 21, 2012, 05:52:44 AM
And the word of the day is: FRUCTIFY!


BK, I thought this was a family site!

:)
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Post by: FJL on July 21, 2012, 06:03:17 AM
Good morning, all! I'm moving a bit tentatively this morning. I didn't pull or strain anything, but I certainly was using muscles I hadn't used this strenuously for some time. I slept quite well. My lasy dream had something to do with a reunion of friends from high school.

So Round One of "the move" is over, and Round Two will occur on Tuesday. I expect to be working in chaos until the end of September, but "The Move" will be over next week. And I am happy it's partially accomplished.

Oh yikes, sometimes you do feel effects of exertion a day or so later. 
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Post by: ArnoldMBrockman on July 21, 2012, 06:20:25 AM
And the word of the day is: FRUCTIFY!

And The Song Of The Day Is:  MAKE OUR GARDEN GROW
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Post by: KevinH on July 21, 2012, 06:33:35 AM
Good morning!
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Post by: John G. on July 21, 2012, 06:39:51 AM
Good morning, all.

A round of vibes to those who need them. And traveling vibes.

It's another day of filming on "Eat St." so I'll be baking in the sun today.
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Post by: John G. on July 21, 2012, 06:44:46 AM
TOD: I've eaten so many burgers that I love that I wouldn't know where to begin. So, here's a food truck burger that makes me drool. It's called Cullum's Attaboy and it's run by the son of Jim Cullum, whose jazz band used to broadcast nationally from one of the Riverwalk restaurants here.

Anyway, he does it right. He grinds his own beef, getting the meat/fat ratio the way he wants it to keep it juicy. He hand forms his patties. He bakes his own buns. He uses the freshest and, when possible, organic ingredients. So the eggs are free range, the bacon is from the local heritage pork ranch, the ketchup and mustards are handmade. The tomatoes taste like tomato.

So, when you bite into this burger from stainless steel airstream trailer, you think you're having something that one of the finest chefs in town has prepared for you. Everything is just perfect.
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Post by: elmore3003 on July 21, 2012, 07:16:28 AM
I am washing all of my bedding this morning, so that's tying up a lot of my day. At some point I must get to a hardware store and have 3 sets of keys made for the office.

Tomorrow, I am doing nothing. At. All.
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Post by: Jrand73 on July 21, 2012, 07:17:06 AM
Congrats to DR ELMORE on a successful move  -  part one.  And it was very nice for DR FJL to help.

I enjoyed reading the information about the NBN script in the notes.....most entertaining and informative.

Continued bouncing back vibes for DR CILLA LIZ.
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Post by: Druxy on July 21, 2012, 07:18:03 AM
TOD:

The best hamburgers I ever ever tasted was at a place, not far from the UW,  in the Laurelhurst section of Seattle, a drive-in called BurgerMaster.

I haven't been there for 50 years and I don't know if the place still exists, but they were sensational.  I've never forgotten them.
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Post by: Jrand73 on July 21, 2012, 07:22:11 AM
Condolences to DR JOHN G on the loss of his friend.....the story is most distressing.

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Post by: Cillaliz on July 21, 2012, 07:26:38 AM
Thanks for the continuing vibes.  I'm feeling a bit better today, but know I have a way to go.  I was out of cat food so I went to HyVee and met Paul there for breakfast.  Now home and cats are fed.   I'm picking Paul up in about an hour to go visit my new car.  Actually I want to talk to my salesman about the information I got yesterday from the insurance co and the financing company.  And to let them know I may be able to resolve all this within the next week
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Post by: Cillaliz on July 21, 2012, 07:28:02 AM
I'm still amazed at how tired I am after just a little trip to the grocery store.
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Post by: Cillaliz on July 21, 2012, 07:29:14 AM
Vibes to Elmore for the move and that the sore muscles feel better fast!
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Post by: Druxy on July 21, 2012, 07:31:11 AM
Re: NORTH BY NORTHWEST

With the possible exception of THE MAN WHO KNEW TOO MUCH (remake), this is my favorite Hitchcock movie.

The screenplay is terrific, and I've often used it as a example of perfect story structure in writing classes that I've taught.

However, I do think that the script has one major (non-fatal) flaw.

At the end of the first act, right after the murder in the United Nations building, the scene cuts to Washington where Leo G. Carroll explains virtually the entire plot of the movie to the audience. 

Not only does this stop the forward action of the story, but it answers too many of the audience's questions too soon.

I know that this is a classic and I really do love the movie, but I would have preferred learning this information along with Cary Grant, perhaps later in the film when he encounters Carroll at Mount Rushmore.

A basic rule of good screenwriting: Delay exposition as long as possible.
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Post by: Jrand73 on July 21, 2012, 07:59:15 AM
Yes, I am off work today.   Thank you to my sister Myrna and to my sister Molly.

Tonight is closing night of "The Curious Savage."

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Post by: Jrand73 on July 21, 2012, 08:01:13 AM
And now for today's hint:

If you have a dry erase board (or perhaps a piece of glassware or other object price marked at the Goodwill) written on with a permanent marker....you can remove the mark.

First write OVER the mark with a dry erase marker, then wipe clean with a paper towel or cloth.  The Permanent Marker will be removed.

I learned this tip from my cousin Brad the teacher/principal.  And it does work.
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Post by: Laura on July 21, 2012, 08:09:45 AM
I guess that one of the good things about not eating much red meat is that when you stop at Jack in the Box and get an Ultimate Cheeseburger, you think it is really really good.
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Post by: Ginny on July 21, 2012, 08:11:23 AM
Saturday morning greetings!  It's a beautiful day in SW Ohio - pleasantly warm with lower humidity.  After several weeks of run-up and the two days of synod, I have decided to veg all day.  Just watched an author presentation on BookTV and now I'm puttering at my desk.
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Post by: Laura on July 21, 2012, 08:18:16 AM
I'm hoping that tonight we get some rain.
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Post by: Miss Karen on July 21, 2012, 08:45:36 AM
Thank you all for the birthday greeting posts yesterday. TCB, you rascal -- I saw that mime you posted -- but it's okay -- the therapist told me the only way to get over your fears is to confront them, so I took a deep breath, opened my eyes, and looked that mime right in the face...
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Post by: Miss Karen on July 21, 2012, 08:54:52 AM
Taking our neighbors' little girl to the teen summer stock Grease matinee today. (The youth version, or what they bill as the school version, so the language and content are kid friendly -- although I would suppose that takes out a lot of the conflict and drama and story line from the original book ...). It's sold out for the weekend run and yesterday she was saying she really wanted to see it, so I'm using my two comps by way of the spot light booth -- good views from up there.
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Post by: Miss Karen on July 21, 2012, 08:59:31 AM
And the word of the day is: FRUCTIFY!


BK, I thought this was a family site!

:)

It's one of the words they had to cut from Grease for the "school version" ...
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Post by: Laura on July 21, 2012, 09:00:08 AM
Miss Karen, I thought I missed my chance to wish you a Happy Birthday.

So..... Happy Birthday!
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Post by: Miss Karen on July 21, 2012, 09:06:39 AM
It looks like I'm getting close to the 5,000 post mark (a couple of more mini-frenzy multi-postings should do the trick, although with my E and T behavior that may take a few years...). Do we still get a HHW toaster or HHW pocket watch or HHW pocket protector or HHW pen and pencil set? Or has the state of the current economy made HHW gifts a thing of the past?
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Post by: Miss Karen on July 21, 2012, 09:09:37 AM
Miss Karen, I thought I missed my chance to wish you a Happy Birthday.

So..... Happy Birthday!

Oh, it's never too late to wish folks a Happy BD, DR Laura -- so thank you. And we got your rain last night -- maybe the monsoon gods will send a little down The Hill to your neck of the woods today.
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Post by: Matthew on July 21, 2012, 09:16:31 AM
Hello, goodbye
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Post by: Matthew on July 21, 2012, 09:19:30 AM
Everyone but me and the dogs are awake.  Our guest from PA is still sleeping, the DP is still sleeping.  I went and got some Krispy Kreme donuts for breakfast.  Anyhow, it's going to be a long weekend.  Things are shaping up for the party.  Speaking of which, if they DP and the DC (Dear Cousin in internet speak) plan on sleeping this late tomorrow, I'm screwed (excuse the language).  I need them up and out of the house ASAP.  The DC is aware of this and is suppose to light a fire under the DP to get them going in the morning.
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Post by: elmore3003 on July 21, 2012, 09:34:26 AM
This laundry today has taken forever. On the positive side, the keys are made, and I am ready for Tuesday's move.
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Post by: Jrand73 on July 21, 2012, 09:39:16 AM
Ready two days early!
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Post by: ChasSmith on July 21, 2012, 09:57:46 AM
Good late morning, all.

Back from the book sale, which turned out to be the least rewarding of any I've been to at this particular venue over the past 10-15 years.  Two reasons for this, and the first applies to every book sale and every secondhand book shop you ever go to:  no two visits are ever alike.  That's a fact of life, and probably as it should be.

But there was much less of the better stuff in evidence this year.  This one was devoid of decent editions of books (just one example:  Heritage Press, which I happen to like; EVERY book sale and book shop has some, yet nothing at all today -- not one -- which makes no sense at all).  DVDs and CDs were just about total crap.  Performing arts books, almost nothing.  I bought only one book, for $2:  "OK - The Story of Oklahoma" by Max Wilk, with which I am completely unfamiliar so I hope it's decent.  Oddly enough, one of the two CDs I picked up was the OBC of same, and the OBC of "Mame" -- both with bonus tracks that will be new to these ears.

I know that these libraries hold back, and sell through more lucrative channels, some of the cream of the crop that's donated to them.  Either that or the volunteer workers are permitted to skim a lot right off the top.  (Not that I wouldn't be pleased to do the same in their position.)  But I've donated plenty of desirable things myself that never saw the light of day at the sale.
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Post by: ChasSmith on July 21, 2012, 10:09:07 AM
Loved the notes about the NORTH BY NORTHWEST script.  One of my favorite films -- and I wish I had something more brilliant than that to say about it.
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Post by: elmore3003 on July 21, 2012, 10:24:27 AM
Good late morning, all.

Back from the book sale, which turned out to be the least rewarding of any I've been to at this particular venue over the past 10-15 years.  Two reasons for this, and the first applies to every book sale and every secondhand book shop you ever go to:  no two visits are ever alike.  That's a fact of life, and probably as it should be.

But there was much less of the better stuff in evidence this year.  This one was devoid of decent editions of books (just one example:  Heritage Press, which I happen to like; EVERY book sale and book shop has some, yet nothing at all today -- not one -- which makes no sense at all).  DVDs and CDs were just about total crap.  Performing arts books, almost nothing.  I bought only one book, for $2:  "OK - The Story of Oklahoma" by Max Wilk, with which I am completely unfamiliar so I hope it's decent.  Oddly enough, one of the two CDs I picked up was the OBC of same, and the OBC of "Mame" -- both with bonus tracks that will be new to these ears.

I know that these libraries hold back, and sell through more lucrative channels, some of the cream of the crop that's donated to them.  Either that or the volunteer workers are permitted to skim a lot right off the top.  (Not that I wouldn't be pleased to do the same in their position.)  But I've donated plenty of desirable things myself that never saw the light of day at the sale.

I love the Heritage editions! When I moved to NYC, I tossed a whole lot of them. I don't rememebr now exactly what I did with them.

So, the laundry is finished, and someone in the building is cooking meat with onion, and it smells fantstic! It brought to mind my mother's stuffed peppers, meatloaf, and spaghetti sauce, and I am really hungry now.

And thinking of my mother reminds me that I need to find a new executor and redo my will ASAP. I'm not sure I want the false friend to be near my estate.
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Post by: bk on July 21, 2012, 10:44:07 AM
Re: NORTH BY NORTHWEST

With the possible exception of THE MAN WHO KNEW TOO MUCH (remake), this is my favorite Hitchcock movie.

The screenplay is terrific, and I've often used it as a example of perfect story structure in writing classes that I've taught.

However, I do think that the script has one major (non-fatal) flaw.

At the end of the first act, right after the murder in the United Nations building, the scene cuts to Washington where Leo G. Carroll explains virtually the entire plot of the movie to the audience. 

Not only does this stop the forward action of the story, but it answers too many of the audience's questions too soon.

I know that this is a classic and I really do love the movie, but I would have preferred learning this information along with Cary Grant, perhaps later in the film when he encounters Carroll at Mount Rushmore.

A basic rule of good screenwriting: Delay exposition as long as possible.

I don't find that a flaw at all and without it I think the audience would become irritated and delaying it till the point you say would interrupt there in a much more disruptive fashion.  By giving us the information early Hitchcock sticks to his usual dictum - delaying equals surprise, giving it early equals suspense.  He does the same thing in Vertigo, where he gives away the twist thirty minutes before the end of the film.
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Post by: Kerry on July 21, 2012, 10:45:13 AM
It's Saturday, and we're all here!
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Post by: bk on July 21, 2012, 10:45:54 AM
I managed to actually get to sleep at one and I managed to sleep until ten-thirty.  Yay!  I will indeed be supping with the Wechters tonight.  David finished my book and wrote me the most beautiful and touching e-mail.
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Post by: Druxy on July 21, 2012, 11:09:26 AM
Re: NORTH BY NORTHWEST

With the possible exception of THE MAN WHO KNEW TOO MUCH (remake), this is my favorite Hitchcock movie.

The screenplay is terrific, and I've often used it as a example of perfect story structure in writing classes that I've taught.

However, I do think that the script has one major (non-fatal) flaw.

At the end of the first act, right after the murder in the United Nations building, the scene cuts to Washington where Leo G. Carroll explains virtually the entire plot of the movie to the audience. 

Not only does this stop the forward action of the story, but it answers too many of the audience's questions too soon.

I know that this is a classic and I really do love the movie, but I would have preferred learning this information along with Cary Grant, perhaps later in the film when he encounters Carroll at Mount Rushmore.

A basic rule of good screenwriting: Delay exposition as long as possible.

I don't find that a flaw at all and without it I think the audience would become irritated and delaying it till the point you say would interrupt there in a much more disruptive fashion.  By giving us the information early Hitchcock sticks to his usual dictum - delaying equals surprise, giving it early equals suspense.  He does the same thing in Vertigo, where he gives away the twist thirty minutes before the end of the film.

It works much better in VERTIGO...primarily because you are half expecting some sort of twist...and it comes  much later in the movie.

In NBNW, the revelation comes much too early.  "Twists" work much better toward the end of a film.

But, as I said, I still love the movie.
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Post by: Cillaliz on July 21, 2012, 11:25:24 AM
Whew!  I am amazed at how fast my energy goes away.  I guess I just cant' believe that I really am hurt and will need time to heal
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Post by: FJL on July 21, 2012, 11:50:43 AM
Whew!  I am amazed at how fast my energy goes away.  I guess I just cant' believe that I really am hurt and will need time to heal

Having had to help those close to me, I know the only thing that brings any comfort is making sure you're taking all steps to get the best care possible as quickly as possible.  and it sounds like you're doing that.
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Post by: Jrand73 on July 21, 2012, 12:06:57 PM
Getting ready to head down for the closing night of THE CURIOUS SAVAGE. 
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Post by: ChasSmith on July 21, 2012, 12:23:43 PM
Closing Night VIBES for DR Jrand61.
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Post by: ChasSmith on July 21, 2012, 12:33:39 PM
DR Elmore, I gave away a couple of large boxes of Heritage editions last year, all in fabulous condition but stuff I'd accepted by then that I would never EVER get close to sitting down and reading.  (For a few years I had been collecting accumulating hoarding every one I found, pretty much regardless of what it was.)  Still have lots of others -- but only the keepers to be enjoyed and treasured.
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Post by: Ginny on July 21, 2012, 01:15:15 PM
Hmm, I went to the other end of the house to watch Season 1, Disc 4 of Boardwalk Empire and fell asleep during the special features.
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Post by: ChasSmith on July 21, 2012, 01:23:32 PM
Watched WHOEVER SLEW AUNTIE ROO? last night.  Admittedly I was by then getting sleepy and probably wasn't appreciating it, but on first blush I wasn't nearly as taken with it as with WHAT'S THE MATTER WITH HELEN? the night before.
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Post by: elmore3003 on July 21, 2012, 01:47:06 PM
Watched WHOEVER SLEW AUNTIE ROO? last night.  Admittedly I was by then getting sleepy and probably wasn't appreciating it, but on first blush I wasn't nearly as taken with it as with WHAT'S THE MATTER WITH HELEN? the night before.

It's HANSEL AND GRETEL, sort of. I like it, but i'm fascinated by fairy tale adaptations. My memory of WHAT'S THE MATTER WITH HELEN is how nice it was to see Chester from GUNSMOKE without the limp.
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Post by: bk on July 21, 2012, 01:53:13 PM
Re: NORTH BY NORTHWEST

With the possible exception of THE MAN WHO KNEW TOO MUCH (remake), this is my favorite Hitchcock movie.

The screenplay is terrific, and I've often used it as a example of perfect story structure in writing classes that I've taught.

However, I do think that the script has one major (non-fatal) flaw.

At the end of the first act, right after the murder in the United Nations building, the scene cuts to Washington where Leo G. Carroll explains virtually the entire plot of the movie to the audience. 

Not only does this stop the forward action of the story, but it answers too many of the audience's questions too soon.

I know that this is a classic and I really do love the movie, but I would have preferred learning this information along with Cary Grant, perhaps later in the film when he encounters Carroll at Mount Rushmore.

A basic rule of good screenwriting: Delay exposition as long as possible.

I don't find that a flaw at all and without it I think the audience would become irritated and delaying it till the point you say would interrupt there in a much more disruptive fashion.  By giving us the information early Hitchcock sticks to his usual dictum - delaying equals surprise, giving it early equals suspense.  He does the same thing in Vertigo, where he gives away the twist thirty minutes before the end of the film.

It works much better in VERTIGO...primarily because you are half expecting some sort of twist...and it comes  much later in the movie.

In NBNW, the revelation comes much too early.  "Twists" work much better toward the end of a film.

But, as I said, I still love the movie.

But North by Northwest is not a twist - that's the whole point.  It's an explanation of the odd events up to that point and I think that it's in the perfect place for its storytelling.  We already know that Grant is not Kaplan - we just don't know the why of what's happening.  Knowing the why makes what follows much more fun.  I think Mr. Lehman and Mr. Hitchcock knew exactly what they were doing.
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Post by: Jane on July 21, 2012, 01:54:27 PM
No, I didn't come home at noon.  They were kind enough to call me first thing in the morning so I could change it. 

That's a relief.  Good luck getting the appointment rescheduled at your convenience.
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Post by: bk on July 21, 2012, 01:54:31 PM
Back from several errands and whatnot - picked up the Blu-rays of Junior High School and a little CDR of a potential upcoming Kritzerland project.  Since it's of the Golden Age and is by a brilliant composer for a much-beloved film I have a tough decision to make because the sound is occasionally not all you'd want it to be.
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Post by: Jane on July 21, 2012, 01:57:37 PM
I'm still amazed at how tired I am after just a little trip to the grocery store.

Aside from the sore muscles & emotional trauma, in my personal experience bruised ribs such the air out of you which in turn is exhausting.
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Post by: bk on July 21, 2012, 02:00:16 PM
Page two?
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Post by: bk on July 21, 2012, 02:00:31 PM
We can't possibly be on page two, can we?
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Post by: bk on July 21, 2012, 02:00:38 PM
I guess we can.
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Post by: bk on July 21, 2012, 02:00:44 PM
And are.
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Post by: bk on July 21, 2012, 02:00:56 PM
And will be until we get some posts going on.
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Post by: Jane on July 21, 2012, 02:01:09 PM
Everyone but me and the dogs are awake.  Our guest from PA is still sleeping, the DP is still sleeping.  I went and got some Krispy Kreme donuts for breakfast.  Anyhow, it's going to be a long weekend.  Things are shaping up for the party.  Speaking of which, if they DP and the DC (Dear Cousin in internet speak) plan on sleeping this late tomorrow, I'm screwed (excuse the language).  I need them up and out of the house ASAP.  The DC is aware of this and is suppose to light a fire under the DP to get them going in the morning.

You might have to be very loud tomorrow morning ;)

Good luck and have a great party!!
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Post by: bk on July 21, 2012, 02:01:11 PM
Tack.
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Post by: bk on July 21, 2012, 02:01:15 PM
Bra.
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Post by: bk on July 21, 2012, 02:01:21 PM
Puss puss.
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Post by: Jane on July 21, 2012, 02:01:35 PM
the keys are made, and I am ready for Tuesday's move.

Exciting!!
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Post by: Jane on July 21, 2012, 02:08:49 PM
Good late morning, all.

Back from the book sale, which turned out to be the least rewarding of any I've been to at this particular venue over the past 10-15 years.  Two reasons for this, and the first applies to every book sale and every secondhand book shop you ever go to:  no two visits are ever alike.  That's a fact of life, and probably as it should be.

But there was much less of the better stuff in evidence this year.  This one was devoid of decent editions of books (just one example:  Heritage Press, which I happen to like; EVERY book sale and book shop has some, yet nothing at all today -- not one -- which makes no sense at all).  DVDs and CDs were just about total crap.  Performing arts books, almost nothing.  I bought only one book, for $2:  "OK - The Story of Oklahoma" by Max Wilk, with which I am completely unfamiliar so I hope it's decent.  Oddly enough, one of the two CDs I picked up was the OBC of same, and the OBC of "Mame" -- both with bonus tracks that will be new to these ears.

I know that these libraries hold back, and sell through more lucrative channels, some of the cream of the crop that's donated to them.  Either that or the volunteer workers are permitted to skim a lot right off the top.  (Not that I wouldn't be pleased to do the same in their position.)  But I've donated plenty of desirable things myself that never saw the light of day at the sale.

And thinking of my mother reminds me that I need to find a new executor and redo my will ASAP. I'm not sure I want the false friend to be near my estate.

DR elmore I am truly sorry about your friend & understand why you want to change your will.  I hope you aren't stressing over this.  If something were to happen, which won't, do you still feel the friend would do right by you? 
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Post by: Jane on July 21, 2012, 02:13:12 PM
Craig hasn't been able to find a place to live.  He said everything he looked at was depressing. :(    He saw one building by the campus that looks nice and is waiting to hear if it is pet friendly.

He needs to come home, we need him to come home, and Yogi & Kitty miss him.
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Post by: ChasSmith on July 21, 2012, 02:13:20 PM
Here's a little something to help celebrate today's notes, not to mention getting to Page 3.  
Mr. Ernest Lehman, speaking at another little seminar I went to in L.A.  

(http://home.comcast.net/~chasmith7/lehman.jpg)
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Post by: Jane on July 21, 2012, 02:19:14 PM
:)
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Post by: ChasSmith on July 21, 2012, 02:21:07 PM
I haven't even caught up yet to the TOD, but neither have most of the DRs.

HAMBURGERS.  One of my favorite things.  I don't even know where to begin.  And, once begun, you might not be able to get me to stop.  Let me think about this.
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Post by: Jane on July 21, 2012, 02:23:03 PM
So typical, as soon as I purchase a book to read something becomes available through the library.
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Post by: elmore3003 on July 21, 2012, 02:38:39 PM
Good late morning, all.

Back from the book sale, which turned out to be the least rewarding of any I've been to at this particular venue over the past 10-15 years.  Two reasons for this, and the first applies to every book sale and every secondhand book shop you ever go to:  no two visits are ever alike.  That's a fact of life, and probably as it should be.

But there was much less of the better stuff in evidence this year.  This one was devoid of decent editions of books (just one example:  Heritage Press, which I happen to like; EVERY book sale and book shop has some, yet nothing at all today -- not one -- which makes no sense at all).  DVDs and CDs were just about total crap.  Performing arts books, almost nothing.  I bought only one book, for $2:  "OK - The Story of Oklahoma" by Max Wilk, with which I am completely unfamiliar so I hope it's decent.  Oddly enough, one of the two CDs I picked up was the OBC of same, and the OBC of "Mame" -- both with bonus tracks that will be new to these ears.

I know that these libraries hold back, and sell through more lucrative channels, some of the cream of the crop that's donated to them.  Either that or the volunteer workers are permitted to skim a lot right off the top.  (Not that I wouldn't be pleased to do the same in their position.)  But I've donated plenty of desirable things myself that never saw the light of day at the sale.

And thinking of my mother reminds me that I need to find a new executor and redo my will ASAP. I'm not sure I want the false friend to be near my estate.

DR elmore I am truly sorry about your friend & understand why you want to change your will.  I hope you aren't stressing over this.  If something were to happen, which won't, do you still feel the friend would do right by you? 

I'm not stressing about it. It's always at the back of ny mind, but  I'm too stressed over the office moves.

I no longer want this person having access to any oart of my life. Or death.
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Post by: Danise on July 21, 2012, 02:49:29 PM
Lots of thunder here.  The dogs are already scared.  I wish the thunder shirts  I ordered would come.  I do so hope they help them--I don't like seeing them so scared. 

I need to mow the lawn but was waiting for the cool of evening. Guess I won't be doing it tonight.
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Post by: Jane on July 21, 2012, 02:59:08 PM
Good late morning, all.

Back from the book sale, which turned out to be the least rewarding of any I've been to at this particular venue over the past 10-15 years.  Two reasons for this, and the first applies to every book sale and every secondhand book shop you ever go to:  no two visits are ever alike.  That's a fact of life, and probably as it should be.

But there was much less of the better stuff in evidence this year.  This one was devoid of decent editions of books (just one example:  Heritage Press, which I happen to like; EVERY book sale and book shop has some, yet nothing at all today -- not one -- which makes no sense at all).  DVDs and CDs were just about total crap.  Performing arts books, almost nothing.  I bought only one book, for $2:  "OK - The Story of Oklahoma" by Max Wilk, with which I am completely unfamiliar so I hope it's decent.  Oddly enough, one of the two CDs I picked up was the OBC of same, and the OBC of "Mame" -- both with bonus tracks that will be new to these ears.

I know that these libraries hold back, and sell through more lucrative channels, some of the cream of the crop that's donated to them.  Either that or the volunteer workers are permitted to skim a lot right off the top.  (Not that I wouldn't be pleased to do the same in their position.)  But I've donated plenty of desirable things myself that never saw the light of day at the sale.

And thinking of my mother reminds me that I need to find a new executor and redo my will ASAP. I'm not sure I want the false friend to be near my estate.

DR elmore I am truly sorry about your friend & understand why you want to change your will.  I hope you aren't stressing over this.  If something were to happen, which won't, do you still feel the friend would do right by you? 

I'm not stressing about it. It's always at the back of ny mind, but  I'm too stressed over the office moves.

I no longer want this person having access to any oart of my life. Or death.

I'm glad you aren't stressing about it until you can conveniently make the change.  I'm still very sorry this change became a necessity. 
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Post by: Danise on July 21, 2012, 03:35:36 PM
Speaking of the dogs, as silly as it sounds, I just can't seem to shake this *feeling* that there is another dog near me.  I can't explain it.  I've been content with just the two -- I AM content but I had this feeling  even before they fought.   I don't know why all of sudden I feel like there will be another dog here soon. 
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Post by: Jennifer on July 21, 2012, 03:52:16 PM
For some reason I got very sleep at 4:30pm and took a nap.

Now I probably won't be able to fall asleep.
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Post by: Jennifer on July 21, 2012, 03:53:07 PM
Had a picnic at the pool today. My niece and I sat on our noodles in the deepend and played for a long time.
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Post by: Jennifer on July 21, 2012, 03:53:42 PM
I had left over ribs for dinner (from a restaurant).

I had a little container of their rib sauce for my fries. I love their sauce so much I could drink it.
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Post by: Jennifer on July 21, 2012, 03:53:59 PM
I need to read tonight. I haven't read at all this week!
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Post by: Danise on July 21, 2012, 03:55:49 PM
Had a picnic at the pool today. My niece and I sat on our noodles in the deepend and played for a long time.
  That sounds nice.  It was really warm here today.  That's what is causing the thunderstorms right now.  To much heat!!!
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Post by: Danise on July 21, 2012, 03:56:53 PM
I need to read tonight. I haven't read at all this week!
  I need to read too.  I have a stack of books I need to start and two or three I have started and are at various stages of completing.
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Post by: Ginny on July 21, 2012, 04:13:43 PM
Had a picnic at the pool today. My niece and I sat on our noodles in the deepend and played for a long time.

I used a noodle for the first time in my water aerobics class last Tuesday.  It was kind of hard to control, but I'll get the hang of it!
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Post by: Ginny on July 21, 2012, 04:15:12 PM
I need to read tonight. I haven't read at all this week!
  I need to read too.  I have a stack of books I need to start and two or three I have started and are at various stages of completing.

I also need to read, because I realized today that this coming Wednesday is the last Wednesday of the month and that's when one of my book groups meets.  Kind of snuck up on me!
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Post by: Laura on July 21, 2012, 04:16:55 PM
Looks like a storm is heading our way.
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Post by: Danise on July 21, 2012, 04:24:54 PM
Had a picnic at the pool today. My niece and I sat on our noodles in the deepend and played for a long time.

I used a noodle for the first time in my water aerobics class last Tuesday.  It was kind of hard to control, but I'll get the hang of it!
You Go girl!!!
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Post by: KevinH on July 21, 2012, 04:31:17 PM
Anybody see the documentary about Carol Channing?  It's on Showtime.

I enjoyed it but thnk she's petty to hold a grudge after all these years about Barbra playing Dolly in the movie version of Hello Dolly.  She says something like "people say 'isn't she great?' and I say 'isn't she' and then I shut up."   
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Post by: George on July 21, 2012, 04:52:21 PM
I guess that one of the good things about not eating much red meat is that when you stop at Jack in the Box and get an Ultimate Cheeseburger, you think it is really really good.

But it is Laura, it IS!!

;)
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Post by: George on July 21, 2012, 04:52:51 PM
Closing Night VIBES for DR Jrand61.

~~~DITTO!!~~~
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Post by: ChasSmith on July 21, 2012, 04:55:50 PM
I need to catch that Showtime documentary!  I wonder if it's On Demand.
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Post by: George on July 21, 2012, 04:56:17 PM
Here's a little something to help celebrate today's notes, not to mention getting to Page 3.  
Mr. Ernest Lehman, speaking at another little seminar I went to in L.A.  

(http://home.comcast.net/~chasmith7/lehman.jpg)

I don't think that I've ever seen a picture of him.
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Post by: Laura on July 21, 2012, 05:16:24 PM
HABOOB!
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Post by: Laura on July 21, 2012, 05:16:57 PM
I took a photo of the coming haboob, and by the time I put the card into the computer, the haboob hit. It was FAST.
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Post by: Laura on July 21, 2012, 05:19:43 PM
http://andthisiswhatisawtoday.blogspot.com/
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Post by: bk on July 21, 2012, 05:20:48 PM
Wonderful photos - should post them here.  Try the tiny pic link I sent yesterday.
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Post by: bk on July 21, 2012, 05:21:06 PM
Guess I'll get ready to have a nice supper with the Wechters - we're going to Stanley's.
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Post by: Laura on July 21, 2012, 05:27:08 PM
I updated it. We are in the middle of it.
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Post by: Druxy on July 21, 2012, 05:27:27 PM
Re: NORTH BY NORTHWEST

With the possible exception of THE MAN WHO KNEW TOO MUCH (remake), this is my favorite Hitchcock movie.

The screenplay is terrific, and I've often used it as a example of perfect story structure in writing classes that I've taught.

However, I do think that the script has one major (non-fatal) flaw.

At the end of the first act, right after the murder in the United Nations building, the scene cuts to Washington where Leo G. Carroll explains virtually the entire plot of the movie to the audience. 

Not only does this stop the forward action of the story, but it answers too many of the audience's questions too soon.

I know that this is a classic and I really do love the movie, but I would have preferred learning this information along with Cary Grant, perhaps later in the film when he encounters Carroll at Mount Rushmore.

A basic rule of good screenwriting: Delay exposition as long as possible.

I don't find that a flaw at all and without it I think the audience would become irritated and delaying it till the point you say would interrupt there in a much more disruptive fashion.  By giving us the information early Hitchcock sticks to his usual dictum - delaying equals surprise, giving it early equals suspense.  He does the same thing in Vertigo, where he gives away the twist thirty minutes before the end of the film.

It works much better in VERTIGO...primarily because you are half expecting some sort of twist...and it comes  much later in the movie.

In NBNW, the revelation comes much too early.  "Twists" work much better toward the end of a film.

But, as I said, I still love the movie.

But North by Northwest is not a twist - that's the whole point.  It's an explanation of the odd events up to that point and I think that it's in the perfect place for its storytelling.  We already know that Grant is not Kaplan - we just don't know the why of what's happening.  Knowing the why makes what follows much more fun.  I think Mr. Lehman and Mr. Hitchcock knew exactly what they were doing.

We can both make a valid case as to whether the information should or should not have been revealed at that point in the picture.

However, the way it was revealed was, in my opinion, terrible.  Lehman and Hitchcock certainly could have come up with a far more interesting way to give the audience that exposition.
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Post by: KevinH on July 21, 2012, 05:43:43 PM
Great photos, DR Laura!
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Post by: Jane on July 21, 2012, 05:54:29 PM
Had a picnic at the pool today. My niece and I sat on our noodles in the deepend and played for a long time.

LOL I had to look that up.  I know what they are, just didn't know what they were called.  I used one for several months to help strengthen my shoulder..
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Post by: Jane on July 21, 2012, 05:57:11 PM
I need to read tonight. I haven't read at all this week!

I now have 3 books from the library to read.  The 1st & 3rd books were on my wish list so I didn't have to download them.  I pondered on the 3rd book & finally decided to go for it.  It turned out to be a mere 750 pages.  I think I will begin with that one so I can then judge how much time I have left to read the other two books.
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Post by: Jane on July 21, 2012, 05:58:49 PM
Had a picnic at the pool today. My niece and I sat on our noodles in the deepend and played for a long time.

I used a noodle for the first time in my water aerobics class last Tuesday.  It was kind of hard to control, but I'll get the hang of it!

I couldn't do a number of exer
I need to read tonight. I haven't read at all this week!
  I need to read too.  I have a stack of books I need to start and two or three I have started and are at various stages of completing.

I also need to read, because I realized today that this coming Wednesday is the last Wednesday of the month and that's when one of my book groups meets.  Kind of snuck up on me!

That happens to me all the time cuz I want to read it as close to the meeting as possible.
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Post by: Jane on July 21, 2012, 06:00:38 PM
Anybody see the documentary about Carol Channing?  It's on Showtime.

I enjoyed it but thnk she's petty to hold a grudge after all these years about Barbra playing Dolly in the movie version of Hello Dolly.  She says something like "people say 'isn't she great?' and I say 'isn't she' and then I shut up."  

People have trouble letting go when they believe and/or expected to get it.
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Post by: Jane on July 21, 2012, 06:01:00 PM
Closing Night VIBES for DR Jrand61.

~~~DITTO!!~~~

DITTO!
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Post by: Jane on July 21, 2012, 06:01:23 PM
I took a photo of the coming haboob, and by the time I put the card into the computer, the haboob hit. It was FAST.

Wow!
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Post by: Jane on July 21, 2012, 06:01:59 PM
http://andthisiswhatisawtoday.blogspot.com/

The 3rd photo really captures the wind.
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Post by: Laura on July 21, 2012, 06:02:44 PM
I'm not sure there's anything else Carol Channing could say. She responds, doesn't disagree, and then stops.
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Post by: George on July 21, 2012, 06:06:23 PM
Well, I'm off.  Some friends of mine are in a local production of "Hamlet" and it's being presented outside in a park.  We have to bring our own chairs and I'm going to bring a hat, too.  We're having great weather right now, so that's not a problem.  I just don't want to get another sunburn.

Be back later!
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Post by: Danise on July 21, 2012, 06:28:04 PM
http://andthisiswhatisawtoday.blogspot.com/
Holy Haboob, Batman!
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Post by: Danise on July 21, 2012, 06:30:45 PM
Closing Night VIBES for DR Jrand61.

~~~DITTO!!~~~
Double Ditto!!!!!
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Post by: Cillaliz on July 21, 2012, 07:12:53 PM
Great Photos, Laura
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Post by: Cillaliz on July 21, 2012, 07:16:08 PM
Well I had another 5 hour nap.  I think that the sleep is really helping me heal. I think I've slept about 12-14 hours a day all week.   I'm not taking any pain medication except Aleve and may cut back on that tomorrow.  I have a ton of work to do this week so I'm hoping my mind will clear and I can get it done.     
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Post by: Jennifer on July 21, 2012, 07:32:30 PM
Had a picnic at the pool today. My niece and I sat on our noodles in the deepend and played for a long time.

I used a noodle for the first time in my water aerobics class last Tuesday.  It was kind of hard to control, but I'll get the hang of it!

We usually just sit on ours in the deepend, or have noodle races. But i sometimes use it in the deepend for exercising. My  niece's pool allows them on the weekends between 11am-3pm.
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Post by: Laura on July 21, 2012, 07:32:51 PM
I am glad you are able to get some sleep. Hopefully that will help you heal.
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Post by: Laura on July 21, 2012, 07:33:19 PM
It is starting to sprinkle a little. Not much.
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Post by: Jennifer on July 21, 2012, 07:35:07 PM
I need to read tonight. I haven't read at all this week!
  I need to read too.  I have a stack of books I need to start and two or three I have started and are at various stages of completing.

Since my niece has a birthday party tomorrow I probably won't get to go swimming (unless it is after 4pm - if she wants to go). So i plan to do a lot of reading. I have the ebook I am reading, STARTERS by Lissa Price. And I got the new Meg Cabot book from the Heather Wells series (there hasn't been a new book in that series in years). They are part YA/part mystery/part chicklit.
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Post by: Jennifer on July 21, 2012, 07:36:56 PM
Glad you are slowly feeling better DR Cillaliz!~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Post by: Jennifer on July 21, 2012, 07:37:58 PM
I should have said what a pool noodle is. It's just a long floaty that is the shape of a long stick (but thicker).
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Post by: Jennifer on July 21, 2012, 07:38:32 PM
I don't really need one in the deep end. But it's a nice change on the weekends to just float around. And much easier for my niece in the deep water.
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Post by: Jennifer on July 21, 2012, 07:39:00 PM
I think some of my hobbies are rubbing off on her. She loves scrapbooking. She loves biking. She loves reading. And she loves swimming.
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Post by: Ginny on July 21, 2012, 07:41:21 PM
I have totally vegged today, which is what I needed after 2 days of being "on."  As soon as CASTLE ends, I'm going to bed.

'night!
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Post by: FJL on July 21, 2012, 07:42:20 PM
Looks ominous, Laura, I don't know that I'd be steady enough to take a photo.  or is it not as rough as it looks?
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Post by: FJL on July 21, 2012, 07:44:27 PM
Sending closing vibes to Jrand.  Even though he can't hear them, still sending them his way and knowing they'll get there.
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Post by: Jennifer on July 21, 2012, 08:03:36 PM
Has anyone here ever tried the loaning option on amazon.com for ebooks?

I guess it's sort of like a library where you can loan certain pre-approved ebooks to one person for 14 days.

My sister just got the kindle app and there is one ebook that i know she would love. And i just happened to notice the "loan" icon at the top of page. I didn't even realize that the loan icon would tell me which ebooks were available for loaning. I guess I cannot read the loaned ebook for the 14 days (but i've already read it).

I will be interested to see how it works.
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Post by: John G. on July 21, 2012, 08:26:35 PM
Been a long day. The filming took about three hours more than was scheduled. I probably sounded like an idiot, expounding on duck fat fries, and chicken and waffles made in duck fat, and sliders griddled in duck fat. But they won't use but a second if anything. Still, the folks at the filming were all fun to hang around with, so it made the 95 in the shade nice.
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Post by: John G. on July 21, 2012, 08:28:52 PM
Popped in "Malcom X" tonight. I won't be able to watch all of it tonight, but I still love the musical number toward the beginning of the movie. Very exciting. Great camera work and the music is wonderful I wish Spike Lee had made "Rent" as he had wanted or some more musicals.
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Post by: Laura on July 21, 2012, 08:46:27 PM
Looks ominous, Laura, I don't know that I'd be steady enough to take a photo.  or is it not as rough as it looks?

It wasn't windy much when I took the first two photos. The second it was. But not like a hurricane or tornado. It's just dirty wind.

The danger is if you are driving and you lose visibility.There's a section on the freeway from Tucson to Phoenix that is notorious for accidents during dust storms. I am always a bit nervous during that part of the drive!
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Post by: FJL on July 21, 2012, 08:59:32 PM
Popped in "Malcom X" tonight. I won't be able to watch all of it tonight, but I still love the musical number toward the beginning of the movie. Very exciting. Great camera work and the music is wonderful I wish Spike Lee had made "Rent" as he had wanted or some more musicals.

JohnG. did you know that Spike Lee is staging the Mike Tyson show on Broadway this summer?
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Post by: John G. on July 21, 2012, 09:16:02 PM
Yeah, FJL. And Spike couldn't even get a distributor for his last movie. Sad.

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Post by: John G. on July 21, 2012, 09:16:32 PM
Laura, the storm photos were powerful and beautiful.
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Post by: John G. on July 21, 2012, 09:17:00 PM
That's it for me. Night, all.
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Post by: George on July 21, 2012, 11:03:48 PM
Tonight, I saw an outdoor production of "Hamlet" that a couple of my friends were in.  The show itself was pretty good.  They were practically yelling at times to be heard over some of the traffic, but there were trees all around, so that helped.  The mosquitoes were out, but they didn't bother me too much. 
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Post by: George on July 21, 2012, 11:05:12 PM
The worst part was the chair that I brought...it's made of plastic and was comfortable, but it was very slick.  The hill was at enough of an angle that I couldn't stay on the darned chair.  Trying to stay on was not very comfortable.  For about the last half hour, I stood and watched.  That helped.
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Post by: bk on July 21, 2012, 11:28:23 PM
Re: NORTH BY NORTHWEST

With the possible exception of THE MAN WHO KNEW TOO MUCH (remake), this is my favorite Hitchcock movie.

The screenplay is terrific, and I've often used it as a example of perfect story structure in writing classes that I've taught.

However, I do think that the script has one major (non-fatal) flaw.

At the end of the first act, right after the murder in the United Nations building, the scene cuts to Washington where Leo G. Carroll explains virtually the entire plot of the movie to the audience. 

Not only does this stop the forward action of the story, but it answers too many of the audience's questions too soon.

I know that this is a classic and I really do love the movie, but I would have preferred learning this information along with Cary Grant, perhaps later in the film when he encounters Carroll at Mount Rushmore.

A basic rule of good screenwriting: Delay exposition as long as possible.

I don't find that a flaw at all and without it I think the audience would become irritated and delaying it till the point you say would interrupt there in a much more disruptive fashion.  By giving us the information early Hitchcock sticks to his usual dictum - delaying equals surprise, giving it early equals suspense.  He does the same thing in Vertigo, where he gives away the twist thirty minutes before the end of the film.

It works much better in VERTIGO...primarily because you are half expecting some sort of twist...and it comes  much later in the movie.

In NBNW, the revelation comes much too early.  "Twists" work much better toward the end of a film.

But, as I said, I still love the movie.

But North by Northwest is not a twist - that's the whole point.  It's an explanation of the odd events up to that point and I think that it's in the perfect place for its storytelling.  We already know that Grant is not Kaplan - we just don't know the why of what's happening.  Knowing the why makes what follows much more fun.  I think Mr. Lehman and Mr. Hitchcock knew exactly what they were doing.

We can both make a valid case as to whether the information should or should not have been revealed at that point in the picture.

However, the way it was revealed was, in my opinion, terrible.  Lehman and Hitchcock certainly could have come up with a far more interesting way to give the audience that exposition.

Terrible for you - I happen to love it - it pretends to be nothing other than it is, and it's witty and has Leo G. Carroll at his best. 
Title: Re: THE MAN ON LINCOLN'S NOSE
Post by: bk on July 21, 2012, 11:28:53 PM
Where in tarnation WAS everyone today?  You'd think it was a Saturday or the dog days of summer or something.