Topic: THE CURIOUS CASE OF THE NEVER-ENDING BOOK (Read 22835 times)

Ginny · « **Reply #90 on:** August 26, 2005, 10:20:19 AM »

Quote from: bk on August 26, 2005, 10:06:35 AM

No one else would like to comment on the tale of The Curious Case of the Never-ending book. We've only had Pogue and Shayne so far, and I'm interested in others' opinions as to what course of action should be taken.

bk, this is the kind of thing that drives librarians crazy! We order something, put it in our catalog, start building a reserve (waiting) list, the title changes, changes again, and again, and when we can't supply the book to our patrons they get mad at us.

As for the specific case, I'd contact the attorney general in the state from which the individual does business. Or I'd ask for interest on my "investment."

Matthew · « **Reply #91 on:** August 26, 2005, 10:23:23 AM »

Happy Bear Birthday to DR JRAND and DR JOSE!!!!

Rodzinski · « **Reply #92 on:** August 26, 2005, 10:35:42 AM »

It has just been an ALL-STAR BIRTHDAY BONANZA lately, but how can one day alone be reserved for two of the HHW MVPs?? It's not enough!!!

Jose: (as you folks will see when you come out in Oct.) just walks down the street and makes new friends and runs into old ones every two blocks. A champion!

JRand: A hilarious dude and fellow Hoosier with that great Indiana sense of humor and the choreographic machinations of a mad genius (so I hear). Also a champion!

Just two of the many great people I've met since first logging on here. Happy Birthday, boys!!!!!!!!

vixmom · « **Reply #93 on:** August 26, 2005, 10:39:40 AM »

I am thinking about writing a book someday. I have a couple of good ideas. If you will l just send me $500. I will make sure that your name is prominently displayed on the dedication page. For $1000 you will also be acknowlegded in the preface.

I plan to start writing this book whenever I get some time.

Thanks for your support!!

vixmom · « **Reply #94 on:** August 26, 2005, 10:42:14 AM »

of course you'll get leather bound editions as well for only another $50.oo Please state your color preference.

vixmom · « **Reply #95 on:** August 26, 2005, 10:43:55 AM »

I say, BK, if you can't beat 'em , join 'em.

vixmom · « **Reply #96 on:** August 26, 2005, 10:44:44 AM »

Seriously, I would ask for my $$$ back. Enough is enough already.

Rodzinski · « **Reply #97 on:** August 26, 2005, 10:47:56 AM »

Now, as to this BOOK DEBACLE, I recall BK talking about this during his last visit here, and I can't believe it is still going on.

The reaction is, "Ain't there laws to stop this kind of thing?" It seems to me most ads for products give people a window of time: "Items deliver in 6-8 weeks," that sort of thing. That window of time may be a requirement. How this works with pre-orders I do not know.

But if people are speculating on the internet that this may be his downfall, they need only amass in number and contact the State ATTORNEY GENERAL of whatever state out of which he is doing business. It would only take a few calls to get them interested. Once you call, they usually ask you to put your claim in writing. It would be nice if someone has printed out the various songs and dances this guy has spun over the last few years. Including the longwinded emails while he was supposedly slaving away.

The sad part is, what people really want is the book. Whether this was a planned scheme or the guy just got in over his head, I don't know. But what he is doing is wrong. Someone needs only marshall the forces of those who've been burned, and at the very least, have a lawyer draft a letter from concerned parties.

vixmom · « **Reply #98 on:** August 26, 2005, 11:02:10 AM »

I just received this email

Check out the signature!

Quote

From: larry moore <larrymoore20@hotmail.com>
Sent: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 14:22:06 +0000
Subject: I NEED YOUR HELP

DEAR FRIEND,

This letter may come to you as a surprise due to the
fact that we have not yet met. I have to say that I
have no intentions of causing you any pains. As you
read this, I dont want you to feel sorry for me,
because, I believe everyone will die someday. My name
is Larry Moore, a merchant in Dubai, in the U.A.E. I
have been diagnosed with prostate and esophageal
cancer that was discovered very late due to my laxity
in caring for my health. It has defiled all form of
medicine and right now, I have only about a few months
to live according to medical experts.
I have not particularly lived my life so well, as I
never really cared for anyone not even myself but my
business. Though I am very rich, I was never generous,
I was always hostile to people and only focus on my
business as that was the only thing I cared for. But
now I regret all this as I now know that there is more
to life than just wanting to have or make all the
money in the world. I believe when God gives me a
second chance to come to this world I would live my
life a different way from how I have lived it. Now
that I know my time is near, I have willed and given
most of my properties and assets to my immediate and
extended family members and as well as a few close
friends.
I have decided to give alms to charity organizations,
as I want this to be one of the last good deeds I do
on earth. So far, I have distributed money to some
charity organizations in the U.A.E, London and
Ireland. Now that my health has deteriorated so badly,
I cannot do this my self any more. I once asked
members of my family to close one of my accounts and
donate the money, which I have there to charity
organization in Bulgaria, they refused and kept the
money to themselves. Hence, I do not trust them
anymore, as they seem not to be contended with what I
have left for them. The last of my money which is the
huge cash deposit that I have with security firm
Abroad .I will want you to help me collect this
deposit and dispatched it to charity organizations.
I am writing this from my
laptop computer in my hospital bed where I wait for my
time to come. I pray that God uses you to support and
assist me with good heart.
God be with you,
Larry Moore

Matthew · « **Reply #99 on:** August 26, 2005, 11:05:53 AM »

cue the "Twilight Zone" music

George · « **Reply #100 on:** August 26, 2005, 11:16:15 AM »

Quote from: Tomovoz on August 26, 2005, 12:56:56 AM

Thank you for your help DR George.

My pleasure, Tom.

George · « **Reply #101 on:** August 26, 2005, 11:28:49 AM »

In my CD player at work: Sergei Rachmaninov's Symphony No. 2 in E minor, Op. 27, Vladimir Ashkenazy conducting the Concertgebouw Orchestra, per BK's recommendation. It is quite beautiful. And BK is absolutely right about the third movement (the Adagio).

In my VCR: tapes of shows from the last couple of nights that I haven't had time to watch, yet.

In my DVD player: "Bells Are Ringing" and a couple of other new things that I can't remember off the top of my head.

bk · « **Reply #102 on:** August 26, 2005, 11:41:32 AM »

Yes, I can ask for my money back, and yes, from what I understand from others who have done that, is that it will be forthcoming. But, as Ginny mentions, shouldn't there be interest on the money? Certainly, HE'S been continuing to earn interest. Some people think he's spent the money and simply cannot afford to print the book. I have no idea if that's true or not, but certainly the speculation has been made. The other option, of course, is to contact the Attorney General of his State.

Jrand73 · « **Reply #103 on:** August 26, 2005, 11:46:04 AM »

Thanks for the wishes and cards!

No plans, DR VIXMOM, except rehearsal!

Car back = $380!!

Jrand73 · « **Reply #104 on:** August 26, 2005, 11:48:27 AM »

The problem of course is that the people who sent the money REALLY want the book - but they bought something that doesn't exist.

Yes, the AG of his home state should be contacted. Ask for the Fraud Division. They will send you a form....or most likely this can be done at the website for the State. I know Indiana has an online form.

Well worth looking into. This is a fraud, plain a simple. Not even a bait and switch. And hopefully someone has copies of the ads. The progression should make the swindle clear to the authorities.

Jrand73 · « **Reply #105 on:** August 26, 2005, 11:49:03 AM »

I am now the age of the old speed limit!

François de Paris · « **Reply #106 on:** August 26, 2005, 11:51:20 AM »

Happy Birthday Spoilers!

Greetings to Jrand and El Piano Jose Man!
You both don't look a year older! Really!
Hardly... two!!

The "Kunzel MUSIC MAN" is terrif'!
I've had it for years and love it!

Media check:

Funny Girl: OBC.
French Big Bands of the '30s, '40s and '50s.
Little Night Music (Melbourne -- Oz -- not the Sunshine State!-- Opera Society)
Musicality of Sondheim, with two tracks arranged by our very own Elmore!

Well.... we got WEL today!

Rodzinski · « **Reply #107 on:** August 26, 2005, 11:53:38 AM »

Asa Aarons is a NY Consumer Advocate with reports on TV and a daily column in the Daily News. If you really want to agitate, send him today's column at the address below.

http://www.wnbc.com/askasa/2015419/detail.html

Jed · « **Reply #108 on:** August 26, 2005, 11:55:15 AM »

Happy day to both Jose and JRand! How I wish I could join the crew at La Cocina tonight!

Jane · « **Reply #109 on:** August 26, 2005, 12:07:30 PM »

JRAND55,

HAVE A HAPPY BIRTHDAY AND A WONDERFUL DAY![/size]

Jane · « **Reply #110 on:** August 26, 2005, 12:09:24 PM »

HAPPY BIRTHDAY JOSE! HAVE A LOVELY DAY![/size]

Matthew · « **Reply #111 on:** August 26, 2005, 12:18:42 PM »

the batter for the madelines is in the fridge, it has to chill, so I may not get to them until tonight.

The Women in White makes great baking music - if not for anything else (that was for DR Tom)

FJL · « **Reply #112 on:** August 26, 2005, 12:20:58 PM »

A very happy birthday to Jose and JRand!

My CD player still has the same CD's that have been in there for the past two weeks. Been listening to CHAKA KHAN and CELINE DION a lot on my ipod, though.

As to the case of the never-ending book, I haven't practice as a lawyer in years, and I don't know what state the culprit is in, but based on what I learned in law school over two decades ago, in most states, there needs to be damage for someone to sue. Meanwhile, it sounds like everybody who's asking for their $97 to be returned is getting it back, so who can claim damge, except for mental discomfort? As to the interest on the $97, the interest rates have been so low that even for people who paid their $97 five years ago, we're talking damage of less than $10 per person. Has anyone actually asked for interest on their money and been refused? (The foregoing, I must hasten to note, is not legal advice, just an analysis based on what I remember from years ago.

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Jane · « **Reply #113 on:** August 26, 2005, 12:26:34 PM »

Jason I enjoyed the photos from last night.

Tomovoz you look very dashing in your new avatar.

JRand you look much younger in yours, more cheerful too.
GOOD EMPLOYMENT VIBES!

MichaelS (what happened to Shayne?), how nice of Katrina to leave you alone.

Jane · « **Reply #114 on:** August 26, 2005, 12:28:11 PM »

Bruce if you ask for your money back and get it, that’s it. Frustrating yes but not worth pursuing any farther. Even if you could take legal action, which I expect would cost more than the interest lost, at the time you ordered you were aware of the history of this book so I doubt you would have much of a case.

It does make for an interesting column so you got something out of it.

bk · « **Reply #115 on:** August 26, 2005, 12:29:44 PM »

I don't see a story in that link, Rodzinski, just an "Ask a question" box.

Jane · « **Reply #116 on:** August 26, 2005, 12:37:11 PM »

Vixmom I went to Urban Legends and couldn’t find a reference to the email you received. Do you think it’s legit?

Jrand73 · « **Reply #117 on:** August 26, 2005, 01:10:59 PM »

MR BK - DR FJL and DRJANE are probably right. Said "author" has probably put himself on secure legal ground. There have probably been others of the 1000 people who have also threatened him....to produce....something!

Bad publicity is the WORST harm you can do him....so go for it.

Jrand73 · « **Reply #118 on:** August 26, 2005, 01:11:45 PM »

As you say, the thing is, none of you want your money back - YOU WANT THE BOOK. And it doesn't exist! Remember what happened when Rock Hudson tried to sell VIP?

Rodzinski · « **Reply #119 on:** August 26, 2005, 01:17:34 PM »

Quote from: bk on August 26, 2005, 12:29:44 PM

I don't see a story in that link, Rodzinski, just an "Ask a question" box.

Yes, that's how you get Asa on the case. Fill out the question form with the basic story from your column and see if he follows up.

News:

Author Topic: THE CURIOUS CASE OF THE NEVER-ENDING BOOK (Read 22835 times)

François de Paris

FJL