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Title: THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: bk on March 07, 2004, 12:01:12 AM
Well, you've read the notes, you've seen the periods, you know the whole shocking story, so now it's time to post on a variety and also a hollywood reporter of topics.  Do your thing, peoples.  But do not do your thong, because we do not like THONGS here at haineshisway.com.  The Thong is Over but the melody lingers on.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Jay on March 07, 2004, 12:08:53 AM
A period gone awry is better than a period gone missing, I would think.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Jay on March 07, 2004, 12:11:57 AM
Without a thong, the day would never end
Without a thong, the road would never have been
When things go wrong, a man ain't got a friend
Without a thong

That field of corn, would never see a plow
That field of corn, would be deserted now
A man is born, but he's no good no how
Without a thong

I've got my trouble and woe, but sure as I know
The Jordan will roll
I'll get along, as long as a thong
Is strung in my soul

I'll never know, what makes the rain to fall
I'll never know, what makes the grass so tall
I only know, there ain't no love at all
Without a thong
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: bk on March 07, 2004, 12:12:14 AM
A period gone missing is very confusing indeed.  Even worse than a colon gone missing.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Jay on March 07, 2004, 12:13:28 AM
And on that silly note (C natural), to slumberland I go.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Jed on March 07, 2004, 12:14:39 AM
No Wussburger, I!  No, rather it's late-night denizen, I.  Just caught up on all of yesterday's lovely postings, for which I was E&T.  No particular reason for being E&T, just never did get online and catch up until nearly midnight.

Chat tonight sounds grand... I shall certainly try to be there!
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: bk on March 07, 2004, 12:16:05 AM
Try?  Only Wussburgers try.  True Hainsies/Kimlets are just THERE with no to do or ado.  
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: S. Woody White on March 07, 2004, 12:24:24 AM
Wussburger wussburger
Make me a match
Find me a find
Catch me a catch...
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: S. Woody White on March 07, 2004, 12:30:18 AM
I have been having fun in the kitchen again.  To tell the truth, I've had fun in the kitchen twice in the last twelve hours.  WOO-HOO!!!!!

The first time was with the carrots I was serving as the veg with dinner.  Peeled carrots, sliced into rounds, dropped plopped into a coverable saute pan with some butter on a burner at medium.  Added some salt, ginger, garlic powder and red pepper flakes, stirred around while the butter melted.  Added some chicken stock (yeah, could have used veg stock), let simmer until the carrots were almost cooked through, then added some honey to the pot, stirred again, and let simmer uncovered while the liquid reduced.  Served this alongside leftover turkey and mashers with mushroom/onion gravy, made for a nice contrast with the rest.  And I must have done something right, because der Brucer didn't think I'd overdone the red pepper flakes!
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: S. Woody White on March 07, 2004, 12:49:39 AM
Then, after der Brucer tucked himself into bed, I set out to make some cookies.  I've got my Tollhouse recipe pretty well worked out, with my additions to the traditional batter on the Nestle bag (a half t cinnamon stirred in with the flour, two T molasses in with the creamed butter, vanilla and sugars).  But I've had a bag of white morsels in my cupboard for a while, and was trying to think of a way to use them.

The mad cookie cook in me emerged.

I calculated.  I came up with a plan.  It was too nefarious to resist.

I made...

[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%][size=20]ALBINO TOLLHOUSE COOKIES!!!!![/size][/move]

bwahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

Here's the idea: Basic Tollhouse cookies use a combination of white sugar and brown sugar.  Why?  Because brown sugar contains molasses!  That's why I've been adding more molasses, to make a softer cookie (something der B likes).  So, if I was going to use the white chips, it made sense to remove the molasses.  This meant replacing the brown sugar with more white sugar!  But, I still wanted that softer chew, so I replaced the molasses with another sugar: honey!  (I could have used corn syrup, but I didn't have any on hand.  So send me to prison and make me Martha's bitch, see if I care!)

The second change was in the spices.  I've been adding a half t cinnamon, which makes for a good background note, not so large to be noticable on it's own.  I kept that, but decided to also add a few shavings of fresh nutmeg.

The third change was the morsels and nuts.  White for the semi-sweet chocolate, easy enough exchange.  But the walnuts I've been using didn't seem right for this albino cookie.  I decided to try slivered almonds.

Everything else went the same as always.  I could have upped the vanilla, but didn't.

The results?  Not too bad.  The cookies are lighter in color than the traditional Tollhouse, of course.  I wonder if they might have been better tasting with less sugar, and more vanilla.  The one thing I would definately change is the almonds.  Slivered isn't right, somehow.  I think sliced almonds would be better.

Still, as experiments go, this one wasn't bad.  I wonder what the results would be like if I exchanged the white morsels with dried cranberries, or dried cherries.

But those experiments will have to wait for another day.  First...

I have to wash the mixing bowl.   :-\
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: S. Woody White on March 07, 2004, 12:55:18 AM
I love the way the house smells after I've been baking.

To tell the truth, I love the way it smells after I've been cooking.  But baking makes a house smell more loved in.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: William F. Orr on March 07, 2004, 04:30:57 AM
I am, of course, a bit worried to hear that BK missed his period, and is also having some problems with his colon.  I say, make a dash for it!  Could this have been caused by a recent interbang?  There's a bit of trivia.  Anyone remember the interbang?
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Michael on March 07, 2004, 04:43:08 AM
Our very own Jason Graae at the El Portal Theater in North Hollywood

(http://www.elportaltheatre.com/jason.gif)
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Michael on March 07, 2004, 04:45:19 AM
Question:

The cabaret space in the Roosevelt Hotel and where Jason Graae cd was recorded is it pronounced the "Sign-Grill" or the "Cina-Grill"?
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Michael on March 07, 2004, 04:46:26 AM
Correct me if I am wrong but the male gender at least to my knowledge has never had a period that went awry.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: PennyO on March 07, 2004, 05:56:02 AM
Hey, S. Woody! Now I need cookies! Damn you, Sir! Need cookies! And I agree - baking does make a house smell loved in.

Okay, so all night long, the Marathon dudes have been clunking around (my parents' house is right ON the route) with barricades and beeping and monitors and finally at 4 am I just friggin got up. We will watch the runners trudge up Sawyer Hill - oh, look -- a tow truck! --  and give water and a push to the wheelchair "runners" as they pass. Oh, it will be FUN! My mom is delighted to have some company to watch with.

Jenny: your review of City Opera's Sweeney was very perspicacious for someone your age! I must tell you, however, that Tim Nolen is actually quite a good actor. I had the great pleasure of playing opposite him in two of the most satisfying productions of Man of La Mancha I've ever done. That State Theater is such a barn that most of us just stand and yell. Hard to project any subtlety in a 3100 seat house... and the singing - well, they pay for LOUD there; "pretty" isn't really relevant... There is one optimum place to stand on that stage: way down right. I remember many Carmen's, when the whole large cast would sort of mosey down right, and crowd each other for the Sweet Spot; the European opera houses are much more gratifying, for size and accoustics. But in America, it's BIGGER is BETTER. All economics, I'm afraid.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: elmore3003 on March 07, 2004, 06:06:03 AM
I have yet to see a period go awry.  With me, it's the plans that go awry, and this weekend's been unfortunately more awry than usual.  I'm licking wounds and waiting for the proverbial sunrise, but this of course could be fatigue from a sleepless night (no daily fight) after something went awry.  My feelings on City Opera's SWEENEY TODD, which I saw last night, are much kinder than Jenny's, and I enjoyed it very much.  I've known of several high school productions of it, and I'm still amazed that a high school teacher might attempt such a hard score with his/her high school singers.  I can't even imagine the horror of a high school orchestra trying to get through it.  Well, after seeing my 14 yr-old  goddaughter in GREASE, I'm amazed at a lot of high school theatre decisions!

So, my plans have gone awry again, dear BK's period is determined to stay awry, and I want to lodge a live chat complaint:  6 pm PST is horrible for this EST whiner, especially when your plans are awry:  tonight is the beginning of the new SOPRANOS season at 9:00 pm EST, or 6:00 pm PST, and I may have guests to watch it.  Well, since BK was bidin' time yesterday, I guess I'll have to follow his example today.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Jrand73 on March 07, 2004, 06:24:53 AM
So sorry to hear about Jenny's disappointment in SWEENEY TODD production.  Don't you hate it when that happens?  You're anticipating a wonderful evening....the lights go down and you hope it will be good....the orchestra starts the overture and you hope it will be good...and then the show stops and you just hope it will be over....

---a Walter Kerr reference.

With a thong in my heart
I behold your adorable face.....
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Jrand73 on March 07, 2004, 06:33:39 AM
I cannot clear up the confusion about Myoshi Umeki's California Emmy Award....but I do know that as Nancy Umeki she was a popular band singer in Japan.  ;D

Perhaps her television show in California was a talk-sing type program that captured the imagination of the viewers, and of course Rodgers & Hammerstein.  
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: William F. Orr on March 07, 2004, 06:42:00 AM
DR PennyO (she of the Jewish thighs):  Oh, if you want cookies, my Internet Explorer has a whole folder full of them, most of which I don't want.  Why, oh tell me, don't they just have a "Accept Cookie:  Yes  No" pop-up?

Miyoshi Umeki:  I've searched and searched and can find no record of an Emmy.  Of course, the Emmy site tells me nothing but this year's awards and doesn't seem to have an archive.  The imdb does have and Emmy list, and she isn't there.  She is listed as for her Oscar, of course, and three Golden Globe nominations.  Curiously, I can't find a fan site, and the Nancy Kwan site doesn't have any links.  So who knows?

Anyway, here's her Time cover with Nancy, but Time doesn't seem to have an archive of the story, which would, presumably, have mentioned any Emmys.  
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Jay on March 07, 2004, 06:42:02 AM
Question:

The cabaret space in the Roosevelt Hotel and where Jason Graae cd was recorded is it pronounced the "Sign-Grill" or the "Cina-Grill"?

The latter.  Mr. Graae was having fun with the name.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Jrand73 on March 07, 2004, 06:54:48 AM
DR WFO - the Time cover features Myoshi with her Broadway co-star Pat Suzuki.....Nancy Kwan played the role onscreen.... but then.....I am a Flower Drum Song fanatic!
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: William F. Orr on March 07, 2004, 07:00:22 AM
Ooops!
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Jrand73 on March 07, 2004, 07:07:28 AM
hehehehehe
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: William F. Orr on March 07, 2004, 07:18:54 AM
But I did find this:

The Donna Reed Show: "Aloha Kimi" (4.19 #132)
January 25, 1962. Stars: Donna Reed, Carol Betz, Shelley Fabares, Paul Peterson.  Guest cast: Miyoshi Umeki (Kimi), Susan Gordon  (Penny, below), Betsy Jones Moreland (Janet Palmer), Crahan Denton (Dr. Kendall), James Douglas (Dr. Phillips). Alex flies to Honolulu to treat young Penny Palmer, the daughter of a family friend who has been injured in a surfing accident. Penny's doctors cannot understand why she remains paralyzed after an operation.

at http://www.robertarmin.com/susangordon/tv.htm
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Matt H. on March 07, 2004, 07:27:35 AM
In the first decade and a half of the Emmys, there were regional Emmy Awards given apart from the national awards, first just in LA and then spreading to NYC and Chicago. (This is still the case as local news channels can qualify and win regional Emmys).

The awards themselves were about half the size of a regular Emmy - like a miniature Emmy actually. Bette Davis won one of those a couple of decades before earning a national Emmy for STRANGERS: THE STORY OF A MOTHER AND DAUGHTER, and that's where I first saw what one of the regional awards looked like. In 1957, there were area awards for New York and Los Angeles. (Shari Lewis won the New York version of the Emmy Miyoshi won.)

So, she's an Emmy Award winner with an asterisk.

Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Matt H. on March 07, 2004, 07:29:53 AM
Won't be at chat tonight. ALIAS returns to the schedule with new episodes for the rest of the month, and they must be seen in high definition. Hope everyone who can attend enjoys the chat.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Jrand73 on March 07, 2004, 07:46:52 AM
Oh, I just won the auction for a Guy Haines solo CD!
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Panni on March 07, 2004, 07:55:15 AM
Good morning. And let me just say that I resent being called a Wussburger - as I was last night -  when I'm not there to defend myself! :o
So, as bk and DRJenny, both of whom called me that WB thing, are not here at the moment to defend themselves, may I say that you are Wussburgers with hot mustard, lots of raw onions and no bun. So there!
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: JoseSPiano on March 07, 2004, 08:00:42 AM
Good Morning!

Good Morning from Chattanooga, TN!

Good Morning from Chattanooga, TN for the last time!

-Oh, I mean the last time for me..um... for this stay.. not for Chattanooga...

 :P

I ended up getting suckered into watching Panic Room (with Jodie Foster) on HBO after turning off the computer and turning out the lights.  Interesting movie.  And by the time I really should have gone to bed, it got to a point in the movie where I just had to stay up and see how it ended.  So, I did.  'Nuff said.

However, I did sleep in quite wonderfully this morning if it is at all possible to do such a thing.  And it looks like quite a beautiful day outside right now.  I decided to go ahead and log on - and get the most bang for my buck out of my high speed internet connection here at the hotel.  So, I read, I pack, I post, I pack, I google, I pack, and so on and so on and so on... (ah, a shampoo commercial reference! - Alberto VO5? Revlon? - I can't remember which one right now - but I do remember my fifth grade math teacher using those commercials as a way of introducing the exponential numbers to me.)

DR Jenny - Hmm.. I'll check the NYCO schedule - I, too, have my favorite Sweeneys in my head, and, as I stated last night, I don't like seeing shows in the State Theater... BUT if I can hear Keith Jameson since again - it's been a while - it might be worth it.... well, at least with a discount voucher.

*Oh, does this production include the "Beggar Woman's Lullaby" in the second act?  -since it now includes Judge Turpin's self-flagellation/self-pleasuring scene...  :o

Well, I need to get finished packing, and get myself all ready to head on over to the made-famous-in-a-song Choo-Choo before I head to the airport so that I can head on back home to Richmond tonight.  I don't get in until 8:30, so I'm not sure what my status will be tonight regarding tonight's Unseemly Live Chat, but I'll check in as soon as I get settled back in my apartment.  -The apartment which I think I'm going to have to pack up over the next two days... But I don't want to think about that now... :-\

Oh - DR SWW - My Albino Chocolate Chip Cookie suggestions: Instead of the almonds - or along with them - try the dried cherries and/or cranberries.  -And I think crushed almonds would work best.  And corn syrup, as you mentioned, would work too in place of your molasses.  But I also think some melted white chocolate would also work in a way - check Marcel Delsauniers' recipe for his "Dalmation" chocolate chip cookies.  And if you want to experiment with the spicing... Hmm.. grated fresh ginger and lime zest.  -Actually, that's my favorite "flavor" of shortbread...

-Damn!  I guess I may be dong some late night baking tonight!

OK - The clock is a-ticking...  Ciao for niao!
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Jrand73 on March 07, 2004, 08:52:52 AM
I found this, does anyone know who it belongs to?


 
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Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Noel on March 07, 2004, 09:03:14 AM
For the umpteenth week in a row, I can't chat because technical difficulties on two different computers make it impossible.  On MY computer, when I go to the chat page, it doesn't load properly.  There's no blank for me to enter my name.  On DWJoy's computer, well, she recently installed a new version of AOL, and, as a result, no longer has any connection to any websites.

No progress has been made on fixing these problems.

Question from yesterday: When did the word "pinko" first come into use?

BK never answered my queries from Ask BK day, but I don't even remember what they were.

Today is Turkey Day.  I return to Columbia to sit through six hours of revue material.  I'll be home in time for chat, but, alas...

(Not the same excuse as "but, Alias...")
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Danise on March 07, 2004, 09:09:32 AM
Lazy day.  I don't feel like doing anything.  Thanks for the information about to do if my bag goes missing.  I guess I will take a change of clothes and my most important items in my carry on--just in case.

I bought a 17 inch bag.  I'm sure they will allow that on the plane.

Did I mention that I have the Collector's Editon Widescreen version of "Dragon Heart"?  

I will be at chat tonight.  Till then...

Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Panni on March 07, 2004, 09:19:45 AM
Some total stranger IM'd me earlier today while I was posting here. I thought it might be someone from HHW, so I answered and asked who it was. It wasn't someone from here. I hate that kind of thing. Feel like someone just walked into my house uninvited.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Panni on March 07, 2004, 09:22:46 AM
My important bk question for Ask bk Day: Why did you call me a Wussburger?
Second important question: Why did you call me a Wussburger? (You said it twice, so I'm asking twice.)
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Panni on March 07, 2004, 09:24:03 AM
The Sopranos is (are back?) back tonight. Hurray!
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: bk on March 07, 2004, 09:27:22 AM
I called you a Wussburger because you went to bed at eleven-fifteen on a Saturday night.  That is a Wussburger.  A Wussburger is that.

I'm TIVOing The Sopranos but shall probably watch it at nine anyway.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Jrand73 on March 07, 2004, 09:34:14 AM
Here is a link to the story in the Indy STAR today announcing the rest of the Phoenix Season including the show I am directing LOVING LUCY.  No mention of me, an oversight no doubt.....but a nice picture of my friend Bryan who is the Founder-Artistic Director there.

http://www.indystar.com/articles/2/127077-9482-062.html
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: bk on March 07, 2004, 09:35:47 AM
Oh, and it's really impossible to win with these chat times.  If I made it tomorrow, the five other people would say they couldn't be there because of this or that.  So, we'll keep it tonight, and those who can't be there can hopefully join us for our next chat next week, which I will make on a Monday.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Panni on March 07, 2004, 09:46:18 AM
Jrand53 - Congrats. Sounds like a really interesting season. Were I Phoenixian (Phoenixite? Phoenixalite) I'd get a subscription.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Panni on March 07, 2004, 09:50:08 AM
I called you a Wussburger because you went to bed at eleven-fifteen on a Saturday night.  That is a Wussburger.  A Wussburger is that.
Perhaps. But I didn't go to bed, I just stopped posting so that eventually I could go to bed. So, according to your definition, dear bk, I'm actually NOT a Wussburger. I laugh. Oh how I laugh.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on March 07, 2004, 10:00:26 AM
DR Jrand,

Thanks for posting the link. I agree with DR Panni - were I closer, I'd be sure to subscribe. (You have to admit, though, that two plays with male nudity is unusual, though maybe not so in Indianapolis. I only knew of the city's reputation for its basketball and euchre fans.)

I'm going to send a link to an acquaintance of mine in Indianapolis.

And DR Panni, I'm glad Abie is feeling well again. Forgive the dogspeak, everyone else, but Archie's gone on an exclusive diet of something called medi-cal gastro formula, available only from the vet. (It's a Canadian product, but I'm sure there's an equivalent.) Since switching to it, his stools have been impeccable.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: William E. Lurie on March 07, 2004, 10:40:09 AM
Jrand - I didn't post that TIME cover.  When I looked at it, I thought it was Mei and Kai from PINK LADY

BK - I just ordered Kritzer Time.  The only time I feel secure using Paypal is when I access it from this here site.

Yesterday we watched both versions of GASLIGHT.  Despite a wonderful debut performance by Angela and a beautiful Ingrid, the 1940 British version is much better than the 1944 MGM.  It is 20 minuters shorter and therefore much tighter without some of the excess in the MGM version.  We also watched THE GREAT ZIEGFELD.  Despite the factual errors it was a very entertaining film.  The "Pretty Girl" number is better seen in its entirety than the abridged THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT version.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Ann on March 07, 2004, 11:03:07 AM
Good morning everybody.
Yes, I was a total Wussburger last night.  Hello my name is Ann and I am a Wussburger!  There I said it...
For some reason I was just really tired last night, plus my mother was visiting and she was sleeping on the living room floor, so I wanted to keep it quiet for her.  
Last performance of Pirates of Penzance this afternoon.  I shall be sorry to see it go...it's been a really fun production.  My mother saw it on Friday night and loved it.  
I have a rehearsal tonight (as per usual) so I doubt I'll be able to make chat...but next week I'll be there will bells on...
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: bk on March 07, 2004, 11:05:58 AM
Speaking of Wussburgers, where in tarnation IS everyone?  You know we're going to get all those posts tomorrow - "Oh, I was errant and truant because I wasn't online, couldn't get up the energy, was at my mother's, was eating a WUSSBURGER."  

Thanks WEL, and everyone else who's ordered.  If you haven't, I'm placing my order tomorrow - I will have extras, obviously, but not all that many because of the cost of getting huge numbers.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: DearReaderLaura on March 07, 2004, 11:07:48 AM
Hello fellow dear readers,
I have nothing to say that would be of particular interest to anyone here except...

re lost luggage: It isn't always lost or even put on the "wrong plane."  Sometimes it is put on ANOTHER PLANE headed to the same destination. They do this when the first plane's cargo area is full. This from my Dear Son, who worked at the aiport and loaded luggage onto planes.

A question: Has anyone here ever gone to see the swallows make their annual return to the mission in San Juan Capistrano?

I am off to a board meeting for the rest of the day.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: JMK on March 07, 2004, 11:26:34 AM
Re:  Miyoshi Umeki.  I am fairly certain (but of course you know-it-alls have proven me wrong before) that she won a Supporting Actress Emmy for The Courtship of Eddie's Father, because I have a very strong recollection of watching the Emmy Awards the year she won.  She may have won some other Emmy before that.

Re:  pinko.  My Uncle's testimony was a little bit later than the bulk of the famous ones (his was late 50s), but, yes, Dies' comment was au courant for that time period.  I bet one of the better dictionaries with word histories (American Heritage, perhaps?) would give you a definitive answer, Noel.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: elmore3003 on March 07, 2004, 11:33:34 AM
Re "Pinko,"  I'm going to hazard a guess that it's a dimunitive of "Russian Red," a colorful term for those followers of Stalin, Lenin and other hangers of the iron curtain.  I've been wrong before, and I know I'll be wrong here again.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: elmore3003 on March 07, 2004, 11:37:18 AM
Wrong again!  I can't even spell "diminutive."  I can pronounce it correctly, maybe I just can't type:  I'm always typing freind instead of friend, but didn't Jane Austen do the same?  
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: elmore3003 on March 07, 2004, 11:42:36 AM
Except that Jane had no typewriter, just a writing table and quill.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Jenny on March 07, 2004, 12:12:06 PM
*Oh, does this production include the "Beggar Woman's Lullaby" in the second act?  -since it now includes Judge Turpin's self-flagellation/self-pleasuring scene...  :o

It does indeed, and I have to say that it's one of the best moments of this production.  I was actually moved to tears by how Judy Blazer sang it.  Then Nolen had to storm in and ruin it.  >:(

I'm glad that you enjoyed it, Elmore!  Was it the same cast that I saw, or the alternate cast?

I am most definitely not a wussburger because I am here, posting til the cows come home, instead of doing my chemistry homework.  I am no wussburger!  

Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: bk on March 07, 2004, 12:23:18 PM
Others are Wussburgers, not you, dear Jenny.  Chemistry can wait.  Heaven Can Wait.  
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: George on March 07, 2004, 12:28:29 PM
Still, as experiments go, this one wasn't bad.  I wonder what the results would be like if I exchanged the white morsels with dried cranberries, or dried cherries.

Woody, a theater group here in Olympia sells cookies that are white chocolate AND cranberries!  They're one the better selling cookies.  So don't exchange the white morsels with dried cranberries, ADD them together!
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Jed on March 07, 2004, 12:30:12 PM
I have been having fun in the kitchen again.  To tell the truth, I've had fun in the kitchen twice in the last twelve hours.  WOO-HOO!!!!!

Come, come now (before it's too late, late, late), S. Woody!  This is a family site!!! :D
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: George on March 07, 2004, 12:32:09 PM
And I'll admit that I was a Wussburger last night.  I ushered at a performance for a local orchestra, left after the intermission (I am not a fan of purely instrumental music...not that there's anything wrong with it--a Seinfeld reference), went to my sister's for homemade lasagna, came home and went to bed without even checking my e-mail.  Right now I'm listening to Donald's radio show about cover songs...hopefully it won't change to the next installment of the show before I'm done.  Right now I'm listening to the cover version of "It's a Hard-Knock Life."  It's not too bad...they sound a little whiney, but otherwise, not bad.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Ann on March 07, 2004, 12:34:32 PM
You guys are making me hungry!  And I have the sudden desire to have my apartment smelling like freshly baked cookies...
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: bk on March 07, 2004, 12:34:34 PM
Donald doesn't usually change shows until the afternoon.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Maya on March 07, 2004, 12:37:56 PM
Hello!

BK, it's interesting that you mentioned having seen "All Night Long."  I just finished Betsy Blair's memoir, "The Memory of All That."  I thought it was a great read, well-written and anecdotal.  I'd love to see some of her European films, especially the Antonioni one.  

Jenny--I've already complimented you on your Sweeney review, but kudos once again.  :-*

Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Jed on March 07, 2004, 12:38:06 PM
My Kritzer Land order will be made when we get to April, so please do have a few of those extras around, BK!
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Jed on March 07, 2004, 12:41:14 PM
I found this, does anyone know who it belongs to?


 
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Am I the only one scratching his head and asking, "Quois???"
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Jenny on March 07, 2004, 12:42:15 PM
I know that I read the notes, but I can't recall what today's topic of discussion is.  Hm...
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Charles Pogue on March 07, 2004, 12:42:46 PM
A wonderful article in the LA TIMES MAGAZINE today called the GOLDEN AGE OF MEDIOCRITY, which talks about our over-hyped society wherein mediocrity is constantly dubbed (erroneously) "genius".  My favourite line is the one where Britney Spears'voice is described as being "so thin there are those who suspect she lip-syncs her interviews."  

And apparently Plymouth University tested the old adage if you put monkeys at a typewriters, they will eventually produced a work the equal of Shakespeare.  One of the professors said that basically the monkeys were "more interested in defecating and urinating on the keyboards."
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Jenny on March 07, 2004, 12:43:08 PM
Oh no!  I didn't mean to begin page three with that!
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: bk on March 07, 2004, 12:44:39 PM
Jenny, today is free-for-all day - you choose the topics and we all get to post.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: bk on March 07, 2004, 12:44:54 PM
It's about eighty-five degrees here.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Jenny on March 07, 2004, 12:46:56 PM
Jenny, today is free-for-all day - you choose the topics and we all get to post.
 

Oh, WOW!  ;D

(I cut it down to one smiley.  I thought that three was over doing it.  Three smilies should be saved for truly special occasions such as...mystery meat day in the cafeteria!)
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Maya on March 07, 2004, 12:47:11 PM
A wonderful article in the LA TIMES MAGAZINE today called the GOLDEN AGE OF MEDIOCRITY, which talks about our over-hyped society wherein mediocrity is constantly dubbed (erroneously) "genius".  My favourite line is the one where Britney Spears'voice is described as being "so thin there are those who suspect she lip-syncs her interviews."  

And apparently Plymouth University tested the old adage if you put monkeys at a typewriters, they will eventually produced a work the equal of Shakespeare.  One of the professors said that basically the monkeys were "more interested in defecating and urinating on the keyboards."

That's hilarious!

Though I don't know if anyone has ever gone so far to label Britney Spears a "genius."  Most people seem to realize that she's gotten to where she is based on her looks, sex appeal and knack for publicizing herself.  Yet they continue to buy her records... ??? ???
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Jed on March 07, 2004, 12:47:21 PM
It's about fifty degrees here.  Supposed to be up near 60 the next couple days!  A real heatwave after some light snow on Friday! :)
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Charles Pogue on March 07, 2004, 12:48:34 PM
It' loverly.  I shall go for a walk shortly, then the lovely wife and I will watch the sun go down on the Hollywood sign whilst soaking in the jacuzzi with a glass of vino or bubbly ( we will be soaking in the Jacuzzi, not the Hollywood sign).
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Ron Pulliam on March 07, 2004, 12:49:53 PM
What has become of DRs Andrea and LC?


Jed:  It was this: "."

I stole it.

You can have it back.

François:  Wherever you are, you are missed!
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Ann on March 07, 2004, 12:50:09 PM
Maya - I like your new pic!  I need to change mine too...thanks for reminding me :)
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Charles Pogue on March 07, 2004, 12:50:55 PM
Sadly, Maya, the article quotes a least one serious reviewer talking about Spears' "genius".
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: bk on March 07, 2004, 12:51:42 PM
Yes, Maya, nice new pic.  Of course, one topic and be how much we despise THONG UNDERWEAR.  That's a topic that I just love.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: elmore3003 on March 07, 2004, 12:54:34 PM
DR Charles Pogue,  maybe Britney is a genius.  Don't you think it takes real smarts to maintain that vacuous idiocy she calls an existence?  Maybe she's the Lorelei Lee of the millenium.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: MBarnum on March 07, 2004, 12:57:33 PM
I do think spring has finally sprung in Oregon! The sky is clear and the sun is shining! It is warm and beautiful outside!  I had not planned on working out in the yard today but I fell I must take advantage of this lovely day...besides everytime I look out my kitchen window all I see are weeds and branches that fell during the snow storm  :-\

Yesterday I watched a most wonderful motion picture entertainment on DVD. The Guru! It was sooo funny and a very good feel good movie. I highly recommend it to all DRs! It is about an Indian gent who moves to America in search of fame and fortune. He wants to be an actor!  It spoofs Bollywood films but is more of an American movie. Co-stars Christine Baranski. Thanks to DR JRand53 for telling me about it!
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: MBarnum on March 07, 2004, 12:59:13 PM
Enjoyed the article JRand53. At least they didn't misspell your name! LOL!

And it looks like a very nice line-up of plays there. I am intrigued by the baseball one!
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Maya on March 07, 2004, 01:00:54 PM
Sadly, Maya, the article quotes a least one serious reviewer talking about Spears' "genius".

ACK!  Such things justify the idea of a Journalism License--and his should be taken away.

Thanks for the compliments on the new pic, guys!  I was sick of the old.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Jenny on March 07, 2004, 01:05:53 PM
Sigh.  I am a Wussburger after all.  I'm off to go do my chemistry homework so that I can join all you fine, feathered people in tonight's live chat!
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Jed on March 07, 2004, 01:10:01 PM
Who told you about my feathers?!?
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Jrand73 on March 07, 2004, 01:42:22 PM
And she did win a couple of Golden Globe awards for the show, so maybe that is what I remember as well.

DR Jed it was supposed to be the period that went awry.....but well....if you have to explain a joke it isn't working.

Thanks DRs Panni, Dinto, and MBARNUM for commenting on our season.  Yes, DRDinTO send the link to your friend and tell him LOVING LUCY starts March 18th - LOL!  And DRPanni if you are ever in Indy, drop by the theatre!

Yes, it is nearly time for a new picture for myself as well....inspired by DRMAYA.  Perhaps in a week or so.

I am on my way to a board meeting, but hopefully will be home in time for another lively CHAT!!!
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: DERBRUCER on March 07, 2004, 01:43:17 PM
A wonderful article in the LA TIMES MAGAZINE today called the GOLDEN AGE OF MEDIOCRITY, which talks about our over-hyped society wherein mediocrity is constantly dubbed (erroneously) "genius".  

Well, will there be no "Fountainhead" posts?

derand  Brucer
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: DERBRUCER on March 07, 2004, 01:50:50 PM
Who told you about my feathers?!?

HAs no one informed you of the HHW webcam?
Best cover-up, laddie.

der always-peeking Brucer
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Jrand73 on March 07, 2004, 01:53:40 PM
Glad you enjoyed THE GURU DRMB.....it was funny!  And oh those musical numbers!  So Bollywood!
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: DERBRUCER on March 07, 2004, 01:57:07 PM
Why, oh tell me, don't they just have a "Accept Cookie:  Yes  No" pop-up?


They do, Blanche, they do!

In your Control Panel Settings, under Internet Options, Security, select the Advanced Options - there you will be able to opt for having a "Prompt" before a "cookie" is loaded.

der TechnoGeek Brucer
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Panni on March 07, 2004, 01:57:32 PM
Jrand 53 - Why did I think you were in Phoenix???
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: George on March 07, 2004, 01:58:06 PM
Is anyone else's computer displaying the posts in super skinny columns starting with Matt's post #79?  I've "refreshed" my browser several times and it's still that way.

[addendum:  Disregard this message.  The problem has been fixed.]
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Charles Pogue on March 07, 2004, 01:58:26 PM
Why has Johnny Horton's Battle of New Orleans been running through my head all day (It's been running through my head just like the British have been running through briar and running through brambles, running through the bushes where a rabbit couldn't go, they are running so fast the hounds cannot catch 'em, down the Missipissi to the Gulf of Mexico)?
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Panni on March 07, 2004, 01:58:42 PM
Thanks for the dog info, Dan-in-TO. For now I'll see how he does with the distilled water.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Charles Pogue on March 07, 2004, 01:59:17 PM
Yes, my computer is displaying post taking up post on only half the page!
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: George on March 07, 2004, 02:02:48 PM
Freaky!  I'll probably be fine once we reach Page 4...
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: George on March 07, 2004, 02:03:17 PM
It is.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: MBarnum on March 07, 2004, 02:03:39 PM
Yes, the posts have gone awry!
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: MBarnum on March 07, 2004, 02:04:08 PM
Oh, it is ok on this page! LOL!
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: George on March 07, 2004, 02:04:12 PM
Yes, the posts have gone awry!

Better than apumpernickle!
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: JMK on March 07, 2004, 02:05:59 PM
See what happens when you deign to correct me?  The world tilts on its HHW axis (hopefully not an axis of evil).  :)
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: MBarnum on March 07, 2004, 02:08:52 PM
If Miyoshi Umeki didn't win an Emmy of a Golden Globe for Courtship of Eddie's Father she should have!


Evidently she is now resides somewhere in Hawaii as Mrs. Winnifield Opie...but no one can seem to find her! Keeping a very low profile evidently.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: DERBRUCER on March 07, 2004, 02:09:10 PM
On DWJoy's computer, well, she recently installed a new version of AOL, and, as a result, no longer has any connection to any websites.


Usually, when you install a new version of AOL, the files are place in a new directory in your Program Files folder. You need to find the old AOL Folder (Probably America On Line 8.0), locate the AOL.exe file and launch it (double click the icon). This should put you into the screen for the old AOL. Open Favorite Places and select the Save/Replace option at the bottom left. Opt to save the file to someplace you can find it later. Then, go back and launch your new AOL. Open the Favorites and again selet the Save/Replace option - now replace with the file you previously saved.

When you are totally confused and frustrated, IM me, tell me how far you got, and I'll step you through it.

der StillTechoGeek Brucer

Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: JMK on March 07, 2004, 02:12:34 PM
DerBrucer:  AOL 9.0 is full of glitches.  I cannot get Easy Designer (their HTML editor) to load "in" AOL, but if I have AOL running, and boot IE and log onto AOL.com, then get to the Easy Designer page, it boots from there.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Panni on March 07, 2004, 02:13:24 PM
I started to post, but can't. See you later.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on March 07, 2004, 02:16:17 PM
DR Panni,

I'm catching up on posts - and would like to know about the mystery anthology. The title? And is it still in print? Thanks.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: DERBRUCER on March 07, 2004, 02:16:59 PM
I've "refreshed" my browser several times...

Strange  tastes, but whatever....

I know in 1776 Jefferson was eagar to get home and "Refresh the Missus".

And I know farmers often set their bulls to refresh the cows.

But how does one "refresh the browser? In my experience it is usually the browser that screws you.

der Even More TechnoGeeky Brucer

Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: TCB on March 07, 2004, 02:17:57 PM
Correct me if I am wrong but the male gender at least to my knowledge has never had a period that went awry.

Oh, but I can assure you that there have loads of teenage boys who have fretted when a period went awry.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: DERBRUCER on March 07, 2004, 02:23:31 PM
DerBrucer:  AOL 9.0 is full of glitches.  

The most egregious of all was their removal from the intallation instructions of the option to copy/move your personal data from the old version to the new.

Gates may have jumped the shark on this release.

However, the resurrection of Favorite Places works - recovering your old Personal Filing cabinet can also be a thrill and a half!

The Save/Replace favorite places gadget is also invaluable when installing a second copy of AOL on another computer.

G-d forbid they should make Favorite places Iternet transportable like the Address Book.

Oh well, good excuses for AOL 10.

der Brucer (who must now hunt for SWW's sholder in a cast pic which might show Gabe things could be worse!)
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: JMK on March 07, 2004, 02:25:15 PM
I am having a fun email war with an idiot eBay buyer who had the audacity to send me a "question for seller" implying I was being dishonest in my description of a DVD as near mint.  This, with my feedback at 712 positives (no negatives) and hers at 24 with several negatives.  She is now emailing from two different yahoo addresses and threatening me.  It's rather fun to toy with people like these.  Does anyone have any suggestions?  Maybe subscribe her to the FA listserve?  She'll NEVER get rid of that one!!  LOL.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Tomovoz on March 07, 2004, 02:28:27 PM
Today's and yesterday's notes - the term period is not used for "full stop" as a punctuation mark in the UK or here or in the land of the hobbits. We do of course sometimes have problems with our colons though - sometimes it is only half a problem. Was it (is it) in the USA that the salutory opening for correspondence is followed by a colon and not a comma?
At least it's a post.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on March 07, 2004, 02:34:07 PM
Jrand53,

I've an extra Take Me Out playbill. Let me know it you'd like it.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: William E. Lurie on March 07, 2004, 02:39:24 PM
Miyoshi may have never won an Emmy, but she did win an Oscar® for "Sayanora".  When they had a reunion of all living acting Oscar® winners three or four years ago, she was the only one who couldn't be located.

 
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: JMK on March 07, 2004, 02:39:38 PM
Yes, Tom, in the US a colon (or comma) is acceptable in the salutation.  I once got an "guaranteed A for the quarter" from a college professor during the first week of the quarter after I submitted a "pop essay" (she gave us a topic and we had to write it in class that day) and she returned it with the large congratulations:  "Oh my G--, a correct use of a semi-colon!  First time in my teaching career!"
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Tomovoz on March 07, 2004, 02:40:08 PM
Thanks Dan. I tried the licence plate site. Commented, and by that time you had removed your post so I removed mine. This could go on for ever!
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Tomovoz on March 07, 2004, 02:42:39 PM
TCB are you getting your male mail. Had you confused with Canada there for a moment.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on March 07, 2004, 02:45:37 PM
Thanks Dan. I tried the licence plate site. Commented, and by that time you had removed your post so I removed mine. This could go on for ever!

What licence/license plate site?

Kidding!

Right after I posted it I tried it, and it didn't work. So I axed it. But I'll try again.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: bk on March 07, 2004, 02:49:03 PM
Page three is fixed.  It was one of those weird glitches where it took two posts that occured at exactly the same time, and melded them, oh, yes, it melded them.  I have deleted those two posts (really one melded post) and all is well with world, melded post-wise.

Panni started to post then stopped then said she'd be back later?  Is anyone as confounded by this woman as I am?
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Tomovoz on March 07, 2004, 02:51:12 PM
It worked for me Dan - the earth didn't move - but it worked for me!
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Ron Pulliam on March 07, 2004, 02:57:06 PM
DR Charles Pogue,  maybe Britney is a genius.  Don't you think it takes real smarts to maintain that vacuous idiocy she calls an existence?  Maybe she's the Lorelei Lee of the millenium.

Refreshingly, she doesn't seem the least bit interested in talking about herself.

For the most part, it's the media who do all the talking about the successful...not they themselves.

Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: TCB on March 07, 2004, 02:58:40 PM
TCB are you getting your male mail. Had you confused with Canada there for a moment.

Wouldn't the Canadian spelling be malue?  And no, Tomovoz I have not received any e-mails from you today (Is that the 21st century equivalent of the "Dear John" letter -- no more e-mails?).
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: TCB on March 07, 2004, 03:08:08 PM
Sorry, but I can't be at chat this evening.  The closing performance of the Gala is tonight at 7:00 p.m. -- we have a 5:30 p.m. call.  But please, at least have the decency to talk about me.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Emily on March 07, 2004, 03:37:06 PM
Good evening all!

I have been terribly eandt of late - so apologies to all.  Really there are no excuses.  I am a wussburger complete with a wuss-soft drink and wuss-fries.

Tomorrow I am off to Ottawa to participate in "Women in the House" which, in case I failed to mention, is a program offered to a selected number of female McGill Poli Sci students who get to go to Parliament to attend a day of conferences on gender-representational issues followed by a day of job-shadowing a MP or a Senator.  The person each participant was going to shadow was "randomly" selected (i.e. the organizer's friends got the most interesting ones).   I was given Senator Lorna Ann Milne.  She is 70 and is interested in agricultural hemp development and genealogy-related issues.  

I have to spend an entire day finding things to talk to her about.

The good news is that while I am there, Kofi Annan (Sec. Gen. of the UN) is going to be giving a speech to the joing HofC and Sen, and I get to go see it.  I am beyond excited (which probably brands me as being as much a poli. sci. nerd as they come).

Today I went shopping and bought a very very very expensive pair of navy Donna Karen trousers (b/c I need SOMETHING to wear to the Parliamentary dining room!!!) and am working on getting my dear dear shopaholic maman to purchase the matching jacket to complete the ensemble.  

I am never spending money again.  

I will be at chat God and packing willing :)

Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Panni on March 07, 2004, 03:58:39 PM
DR Panni,

I'm catching up on posts - and would like to know about the mystery anthology. The title? And is it still in print? Thanks.

I doubt it's still in print, but if you look it up on the Internet, you can probably buy it for under $15. It's called
FINGERPRINTS: A Collection of Stories by The Crime Writers of Canada, Edited by Beverley Beetham-Endersby.
BTW - If you do get it, I now look nothing like my picture on the back cover. For one thing, I had short dark hair back then. I felt that with dark hair I would be taken far more seriously in the then almost all-male world of TV writing, than as a "ditzy blonde."
I think you'll like "An Evening at the Opera" the story I co-wrote. It was singled out in some reviews as the best story in the collection.
(However, IMO, you'd have much more fun reading KRITZER TIME than a book of short mysteries by a bunch of Cannucks. So if you buy only one book this year, for heaven's sake, don't let it be FINGERPRINTS.)
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Panni on March 07, 2004, 04:04:11 PM
Panni started to post then stopped then said she'd be back later?  Is anyone as confounded by this woman as I am?

Obviously not, as nobody even noticed. Anyway, I'm back as promised. I always keep my promises.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Panni on March 07, 2004, 04:10:21 PM
Tomorrow I am off to Ottawa to participate in "Women in the House" which, in case I failed to mention, is a program offered to a selected number of female McGill Poli Sci students who get to go to Parliament to attend a day of conferences on gender-representational issues followed by a day of job-shadowing a MP or a Senator.

Sounds like more fun than a barrel of monkeys, DR Emily.
I once spent a a day in Parliament as part of a much publicized contingent of artists who flew to Ottawa for the day to ask for more money for the arts. Yeah, right. Watching Parliament in action was sort of interesting in a bizarre way. But meeting one on one with some of the MP's was Kafkaesque, to say the least.

I'm sure you'll have an interesting time.  Full report, please,
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: MBarnum on March 07, 2004, 04:38:37 PM
Sorry, but I can't be at chat this evening.  The closing performance of the Gala is tonight at 7:00 p.m. -- we have a 5:30 p.m. call.  But please, at least have the decency to talk about me.

Oh, not to worry TCB...we ALWAYS talk about you when you aren't around! LOL! ::)
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: MBarnum on March 07, 2004, 04:40:19 PM
Ok, I promised myself I would work on some interviews this weekend, but with the wonderful spring like weather I haven't spent much time indoors...but now I shall get started transcribing the 2 1/2 hour tape of my Kenny Miller tape! He was a good talker! And the stories he had to tell! Who knew such things went on in Hollywood in the 1950s!
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: bk on March 07, 2004, 04:45:47 PM
Chat in a mere one hour and fifteen minutes.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Panni on March 07, 2004, 04:54:53 PM
I have a question about Chat. I post on a daily basis through Internet Explorer. But when I try to do Chat this way all my letters are ttttrrrriiiiipppplllled (tripled). If I log on to chat through AOL, this doesn't happen. Does anybody have any ideas as to why this is going on and what I can do about it? (It didn't always happen. Just the last few months.)
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: bk on March 07, 2004, 05:09:54 PM
Haven't tried to chat through IE, but it should work the same as AOL.  
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: JMK on March 07, 2004, 05:13:54 PM
There is some weird interaction between AOL 9.0 and IE, as I mentioned earlier.  I'm obviously not enough of a tech-geek to understand it, but it's really annoying.

My sister has suddenly appeared from Alaska, so alas I will miss chat--the first in a long time I was going to be able to attend.  Have fun!
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: bk on March 07, 2004, 05:16:00 PM
Miss Panni doesn't have AOL 9.0 so it can't be that.  Miss Panni has AOL 5.0.

Chat in a mere forty-five minutes.

I'm watching Dragonheart, with a script by our very own Charles Edward Pogue.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: S. Woody White on March 07, 2004, 05:25:25 PM
Time to make dinner, so we'll be eating before Alias comes on.

Der Brucer has been very impatiently waiting for Brussels Sprouts with Chestnuts, ever since he bought a jar of chestnuts in Philly.  The recipe I've found calls for blanching the sprouts for about eight minutes, slicing them in half.  Saute some minced shallot in butter, toss in the chestnuts and sprouts, season with salt, pepper and nutmeg.  Cook for five minutes to heat through.

That's easy enough.  But what the hell am I supposed to do about the rest of dinner???!!!

Brussels Sprouts and Albino Tollhouse Cookies do not a satisfying meal make.   :-\

And cool it with the Wussburger comments, or I'll spoil Alias for everyone!   :o
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Panni on March 07, 2004, 05:48:31 PM
Brussels Sprouts and Albino Tollhouse Cookies do not a satisfying meal make.   :-\

I'll have to respectfully disagree, SWW. Sounds delish to me. And chestnuts. Yummmm.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Jrand73 on March 07, 2004, 05:50:49 PM
DR PANNI you probably thought I was IN Phoenix because the theatre in Indianapolis where I work as called THE PHOENIX...LOL....

DR DinTO - I would LOVE to have the extra TAKE ME OUT Playbill!
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: MBarnum on March 07, 2004, 05:52:03 PM
Just had a sparkling telephone discussion with DR Elmoore about 1950s pin-ups (the male type) and now I must fix some dinner before chat! See you all there!
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: bk on March 07, 2004, 05:54:23 PM
Chat in a mere seven minutes.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: bk on March 07, 2004, 05:56:26 PM
Chat in a mere four minutes.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: bk on March 07, 2004, 06:01:06 PM
Chat is now open.   Be there or be round.  Get thy butt cheeks in there.  
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Jane on March 07, 2004, 06:05:42 PM
Woody, a theater group here in Olympia sells cookies that are white chocolate AND cranberries!  They're one the better selling cookies.  So don't exchange the white morsels with dried cranberries, ADD them together!

I suggested my son make my chocolate chip cookies with white chocolate and dried cherries.  I have yet to have any but he says they are wonderful. :)
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Jenny on March 07, 2004, 06:09:06 PM
 :'( I can't access the live chat!  Whenever I click "Live Chat", there's just a box with a red x in it!  :'(
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Noel on March 07, 2004, 06:09:35 PM
Usually, when you install a new version of AOL, the files are place in a new directory in your Program Files folder. You need to find the old AOL Folder (Probably America On Line 8.0), locate the AOL.exe file and launch it (double click the icon). This should put you into the screen for the old AOL. Open Favorite Places and select the Save/Replace option at the bottom left. Opt to save the file to someplace you can find it later. Then, go back and launch your new AOL. Open the Favorites and again selet the Save/Replace option - now replace with the file you previously saved.

When you are totally confused and frustrated, IM me, tell me how far you got, and I'll step you through it.

I don't even know how to do IMs, oh helpful Der Brucer.  I did open using a version of AOL installed a year ago, but still couldn't get to any websites.  There were no favorite places, and no Save/Replace option, although there was a favorite places icon.  It just didn't list any.

I'm tired and frustrated, jealous that others get to go to chat and I can't.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Jane on March 07, 2004, 06:23:04 PM
WEL I wasn't able to respond earlier but I have been thinking about you and hope your next visit with Joe is better.

This new lapstop isn't doing much of what is should be doing, so it's going back to the store tomorrow.  
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: bk on March 07, 2004, 06:27:57 PM
Jenny, how are you trying to access the site?  Through IE or AOL or what browser?  Also, have you tried "refreshing?"  We need you in chat.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Jrand73 on March 07, 2004, 06:28:04 PM
Jenny when you get to that page with the red X try refreshing your browser sometimes that works

Or try this link

http://www.haineshisway.com/chat/
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Panni on March 07, 2004, 06:28:40 PM
Jenny, you still can't get on?
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Panni on March 07, 2004, 06:29:51 PM
Post your name - then hit connect, then wait.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: George on March 07, 2004, 06:32:21 PM
Jenny, you shouldn't need a password.  If "Jenny" requires one, use a slightly different screenname.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Jenny on March 07, 2004, 06:43:37 PM
Every time I refresh, I get that pesky red "x"!  (Actually, it's more like a lot of small boxes with red "x"s in them and one big box with a blue triangle, a green circle, and a red square in it).  I had this same problem the other day with Sondheim.com's live chat.  Bakalor's sites hate me!  :(
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: bk on March 07, 2004, 07:07:48 PM
But how are you trying to get in?  What is your browser?  

Chat is still going on strong.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Noel on March 07, 2004, 07:23:10 PM
Every time I refresh, I get that pesky red "x"!  (Actually, it's more like a lot of small boxes with red "x"s in them and one big box with a blue triangle, a green circle, and a red square in it).  

Jenny, you are not alone.  That's exactly what I get on my own computer.  (Not my wife's - hers won't connect to websites at all.)

I've tried refreshing; I've tried both AOL and Microsoft Internet Explorer...
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Jenny on March 07, 2004, 07:33:29 PM
I'm on Internet Explorer.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: DERBRUCER on March 07, 2004, 07:35:45 PM
Jenny, you are not alone.  That's exactly what I get on my own computer.  (Not my wife's - hers won't connect to websites at all.)

I've tried refreshing; I've tried both AOL and Microsoft Internet Explorer...

ME TOO! And I am neither an impressionable (albeit precocious) teenager nor an inhabitant of Area 51.
I guess even Techno-Geeks are banned from chat!

der Brucer (sure they are spreding malicious,albeit delicious, tales about the absentees)
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: DERBRUCER on March 07, 2004, 07:40:10 PM
For when the world has returned:

Here's what happened to SWW for serving less-than moist pork roast:

(http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL242/891350/3691292/47758920.jpg)

der Brucer (looks like a rig for a lazy hitch-hiker!)

Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: JoseSPiano on March 07, 2004, 07:43:04 PM
Good evening!

-From Atlanta... ugh!

Due to a small plane "incident" at the Chattanooga airport this afternoon (something about a plane landing without it's landing gear... no injuries reported - good thing), my flight out to Atlanta was delayed... and delayed.  They were offering shuttle service to Atlanta via bus and van pool, but since that would have been two hours in a van/bus with at least 20 fretting and frustrated passengers, I opted to stick it out and wait for the airport to re-open.  Which it did.  So...

Well, the airports and the airplane then had to play catch up for the outbound and inbound flights that were able to take off and land during the three hours that the airport was technically closed.  Well, to make a long - and most likely uninteresting - story short, my plane left Chattanooga only about 30 minutes after the revised departure time, but once we hit Atlanta airspace, we had to circle the airport due to high winds.  -And let me tell you, those winds were indeed high - and high up in the air; it was truly one of the bumpiest flights I've been on.  My head is actually still recovering - just a little whoozy and headachey.

So, now I'm at the Doubletree at the Atlanta Airport - enjoying the use of the free high-speed internet - and room service!  Oh, and HBO - pretty good "Sopranos" premiere (well, at the last the last half that I was able to watch), and "Curb Your Enthusiasm" had me laughing out loud tonight a few times.  -I'll wait for the West Coasters to get their fill.  And, hopefully, I should be back home in Richmond tomorrow morning by 10:00.  Not too bad.  Hey, sometimes you just have to roll with the punches.

-I guess my "ugh" above should be changed to a "semi-ugh". ;)

DR Jenny -and possibly DR Noel - I get those red X's too sometimes, but they only appear in areas where graphics are supposed to appear.  However, I still get the box that asks for my Username (and Password).  So, as long as your getting the Username box, then just ignore the red X's.

Oh, - I guess I could check to see if the chat is still going on...  Hmm...
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Jenny on March 07, 2004, 07:45:38 PM
For when the world has returned:

Here's what happened to SWW for serving less-than moist pork roast:

(http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL242/891350/3691292/47758920.jpg)

der Brucer (looks like a rig for a lazy hitch-hiker!)



AH!

Sorry, SWW, but it sucks to be you.  :-*
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: JoseSPiano on March 07, 2004, 07:45:56 PM
OH - Just as I popped into chat, DR Sarah popped out...  Guess I forgot to have a mint after my dinner...
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Jenny on March 07, 2004, 07:48:27 PM
According to Bakalor, I can't enter the chat because of something involving java.  I don't know what that means, but okay.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Panni on March 07, 2004, 07:57:13 PM
Chat was sparkling, but I think I'm all chatted out.

Here's something I just read which is fascinating -- and I probably should know it, but didn't until now. (I never took Introductory Logic, which is one setting in which you'd find this kind of interesting stuff.) I'm sure FS Pogue is familiar with it.
The Cretan Paradox:
The poet Epimenides stated: "All Cretans are liars."
Epimenides, however, was from Crete. Sooo, his statement can only be true if it's false.
This is known as an antinomy - a logical term for a statement that contradicts itself.

I love this kind of thing! Gives me a headache, but it's fun to think about.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Charles Pogue on March 07, 2004, 08:05:18 PM
BK, you do know I have problems with the finished film of Dragonheart.  The script, available through Harvest Moon (harvestmoon.com) or the novel are the definitive versions.  My problems related to the ham-fisted directing  and some of the director's so-called inprovements.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: William F. Orr on March 07, 2004, 08:06:11 PM
They do, Blanche, they do!

In your Control Panel Settings, under Internet Options, Security, select the Advanced Options - there you will be able to opt for having a "Prompt" before a "cookie" is loaded.

der TechnoGeek Brucer


Oooh, thank you.  But it was under "Privacy", not "Security".  Makes no never mind.  I have set it.  Now maybe I won't have to go through my semi-monthly cookie deletion.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Ann on March 07, 2004, 08:12:08 PM
Good evening all
I caught the very last bit of chat, and I'm sure the rest was wonderful.
Pirates was a rousing success, even the matinee crowd was great.  Now all I have to do tomorrow is get all the costumes organized and ready to be cleaned, then my job is done, yay!
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: DERBRUCER on March 07, 2004, 08:19:28 PM
My head is actually still recovering - just a little whoozy and headachey.


Does consumption of Tanqueray and Tonic enter into the equation?

der always curious Brucer
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: bk on March 07, 2004, 08:22:56 PM
I was once not Java-enabled.  I'm sure there is a workaround for it, and I don't really know why that advice wasn't offered to you.  I mean, if I can get into chat everyone should be able to.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Matt H. on March 07, 2004, 08:23:41 PM
DR Jose is not kidding about the winds. Just before 8 p.m., the lights flickered, power went out, and the most horrific wind storm since Hurricane Hugo blew through here. We had winds up to 60 mph and there was lots of debris and tree limbs down. Thankfully for me, power came back on after about five minutes, but I was truly frightened. After living through Hurricane Hugo, a mighty wind is NO laughing matter.

At first I thought maybe a tornado had sped through here, but the TV weather folks said it was not "tornadic" conditions, just unusually heavy winds.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: bk on March 07, 2004, 08:27:37 PM
Pogue, I do know you were not so thrilled with the final product.  The director is not so hot, that much is clear, nor is the cameraman.  And a couple of casting choices are peculiar, but I'm enjoying it seeing through all that stuff.  I compare things with the novel to see what was changed, but I'm sure I'm missing things.  What was the worst of what he did?  Also, did you know that there was a commentary track by him?  Have you heard it?
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Panni on March 07, 2004, 08:29:08 PM
Congrats on PIRATES, Ann! :D
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Panni on March 07, 2004, 08:31:23 PM
Must get ready for THE SOPRANOS premiere. What shall I wear?...
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: William F. Orr on March 07, 2004, 08:32:31 PM
According to Bakalor, I can't enter the chat because of something involving java.  I don't know what that means, but okay.

It means you must serve your browser only caffeinated coffee.  If it gives up coffee for Sanka® or even Sanka®, Bianca, for you, it just won't get chatty.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: JoseSPiano on March 07, 2004, 08:37:51 PM
Does consumption of Tanqueray and Tonic enter into the equation?

der always curious Brucer

If only.... But after the almost consistently turbulent flight from Chattanooga to Atlanta, it's probably best that I did not imbibe last night as I had prognosticated.  -I guess that's what I did.   :P

In any case... DR Sarah kindly popped back into chat to say "Hello"... and then we both said "Goodbye".

And now I'm watching Phonebooth on HBO... Hmmm....
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Matt H. on March 07, 2004, 08:40:06 PM
I found PHONE BOOTH very suspenseful and the perfect length. One of Joel Schumacher's better efforts.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: William F. Orr on March 07, 2004, 08:45:19 PM
And with that silly remark I observe that there is hay around here that definitely needs to be hit, and I have been elected to hit it.  I have much to say about my own personal life, but that will wait for another time.

Suffice it to add that I watched The Faculty, starring Frodo, once again on the teevee tonight, and not having read Kritzer Time yet I can only assume that this film was an extremely acurate recreation of Benjamin Kritzer's own high school experience.

And as I was catching up on the posts, MusicChoice on my cable tv (the Showtunes channel--hopla!) was playing Liz Callaway's "Standing on the Corner", and I noticed for the first time "couldn't buy a guy a diet coke."  No question who produced that album!

Night night.

Don't let the bed-bugs bite.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: bk on March 07, 2004, 09:19:50 PM
So sad to be all alone in the world.  Am now watching the documentary on Dragonheart and am happy to report that dear reader Pogue is in it - just not enough.  Mr. Director, however, is in it plenty, taking credit for everything.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: JoseSPiano on March 07, 2004, 09:20:36 PM
Hmm... Phone Booth... Not bad.  Although the ending was... not really sure what to say...  I liked it... Then I thought about it, then I didn't like it... Then I liked it again..  -You get the picture...

As for Java issues - For some strange reason, Windows XP and/or Internet Explorer and WinXP will not properly execute some Java apps.  My brother who puts together systems for people has come across this issue a couple of times, and the "easiest" way he found to work around it was to uninstall either/or AOL, IE, Netscape, etc., and reinstall it... sometimes it takes a few times.  Also be sure to check that you have the latest updates for IE from Microsoft's Windows Update site.  In some instances, the Java apps may "appear" as a security issue for IE. Unfortunately, in some other cases, it may just be something flukey.

-And, I think I've stated this before, but I have never really had any major issues with Windows (I'm still using Win98SE), AOL (currently 9.0), Internet Explorer, etc.  And I never will.  Right?  Right?

Well, I need to tend to my still ebbing and flowing headache...

Goodnight.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: DERBRUCER on March 07, 2004, 09:44:40 PM
Geez, Jenny and I finally finished homework, and you wussburgers are all in bed!

der Brucer (who first typed "ho work", which could have led to some misunderstanding)
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: bk on March 07, 2004, 09:59:21 PM
Here I thought this was a new documentary for Dragonheart, but alas, no, it was done for the laserdisc release.  At least the producer has the good taste to mention Pogue - the name Pogue is never uttered by Mr. Director.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Charles Pogue on March 07, 2004, 10:00:06 PM
Just saw a promo for the news "Don't open that email; it's a scam to steal your identity"  Then they showed a close-up of an email with "Pay-pal" in the headline.  Sound like anything that's been happening to some of you?
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: S. Woody White on March 07, 2004, 10:01:18 PM
According to Bakalor, I can't enter the chat because of something involving java.  I don't know what that means, but okay.
It means he really should switch to decaf.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: S. Woody White on March 07, 2004, 10:13:55 PM
Jenny responds to the pic der Brucer posted:
Sorry, SWW, but it sucks to be you.  :-*
It certainly sucked then.  The real cause was a gang of fag-bashers (the term "hate crime" hadn't been coined yet), not dried-out pork.  It was the bashing that made me reconsider and get out of the closet (like being IN the closet had really been any safer).  Funny, how these things balance out.

The pic was taken after the cast had been taken off.  We were using part of the cast as a brace, while my atrophied arm and shoulder muscles recouperated.

What was really fun was wearing that rig while my Dad took me to a Lions Club meeting.  The men there kept extending their hands in greeting...right hands, of course...and my own right hand was quite capable of poking them in the eye.  

DR JMK: I just hope Gabe doesn't have to wear anything as goofus as what I wore back then.  An extra set of vibes his way.

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Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: S. Woody White on March 07, 2004, 10:39:03 PM
I just stumbled across something that seems...well, strange.

According to this, at Bravo's own website, (http://www.bravotv.com/Queer_Eye_for_the_Straight_Guy/Episodes/121/) the Queer Eye for the Straight Guy guys are next going to take on...a male figure skater!

A male figure skater who took eight years to get around to marrying his girlfriend.

Like I say, it sounds strange.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Panni on March 07, 2004, 10:56:04 PM
Well, I'll say goodnight. No, I'm not wussing out and going to sleep, so no name-calling, please. I have a pretty bad stomach ache  - doubled over in pain bad. Have no idea why, but sitting at the computer sure doesn't help. I'm going to lie down until it goes away.
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: bk on March 07, 2004, 11:02:00 PM
Take a Tums.  I am not doubled over in pain at this time.  Perhaps that is because I ate an artichoke.  
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: S. Woody White on March 07, 2004, 11:10:35 PM
Something else I just came across, that BK will particularly be interested in, is the following DVD review. (http://www.digitallyobsessed.com/showreview.php3?ID=5787)

Oh, I am so very, very evil!   8)  ;D  8)
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Ann on March 07, 2004, 11:13:51 PM
I am going to bed.  I am a Wussburger...I am a Wussburger with cheese...I am a Wussburger with cheese and bacon AND a side of Weenie-fries.  I sound rather tasty...
Goodnight
Title: Re:THE PERIOD THAT WENT AWRY
Post by: Charles Pogue on March 07, 2004, 11:45:34 PM
Bk, I just couldn't bear to listen to the commentary so I never have...for the very reason you state.  The director from the first day of pre-production started taking credit for everything.  Forget that both the producer and I and the original director spent four years of our life on it before he ever came aboard.   If you listen to him, you'd think he taught the actors how to act, fed the crew, built the sets, designed everything, took the tickets at the box-office.  He is a vicious, venal, vile, virtuperative little blowhard of a human being (and I use the word "human Being" in its minimal, basest biological sense), IMHO, who if he couldn't take credit for everyone else's talent would try to diminish it.  Not an ounce of poetry in his soul and a thoroughly nasty piece of work.  I have never seen a cast and crew so united in their antipathy for a director before.  But he is merely a man who cannot rise above his mediocrity.

The producer who actually had knew what she had is really at fault.  She abandoned her passion and power to capitulate to the director's petty ego and descend to his mediocrity.  She told me once in Bratislava at dinner, "Rob pisses around on your script because he is jealous of your talent and he is afraid of you."  Which was true, but when I asked her very sensibly then why did she allow him to piss around on the script (at one time she told him, he'd "butchered" it), she said:  "It's the process."  One needs a producer who knows the difference between collaboration and compromise and keep firm in the fray and not become the Queen of Capitulation.

The worst cast member...almost despised as much as the director was the actress playing the girl...so many of her scenes (and more important, Dennis' good scenes) got cut  because of her performance.  Dennis was a hard-working trouper and a consummate professional.  Can't say enough good about him.  Pete Posthlethwaite, Jason Isaacs, and David Thewlis were all great, but hampered by such bad direction.  The funniest breakfast I've ever had was with Pete and David bitching about the director.  Thewlis said, "I feel like I'm shouting all the time." Pete's comment about the director was: :"Just figure out where to put the camera, mate, and let us do the thinking."

I have avoided the commentary because I knew it would be a pack of lies.  The reason there is only ten seconds of me is because they were desperately trying to muzzle me.  I wasn't even going to be included until I raised a stink to the WGA.  They filmed an hour's interview with me of which you get just that one clip.

Worst things about the movie are all the nuances are gone, the connective tissue, emotional subtlety, and what one critic called "the plough-horse direction".  No poetry of soul, no delicacy.  Oh, and, of course, the pigs scene.  This was an inspiration of the director's he thought it would be funny if a village of starving peasants was full of pigs, despite the fact that once the villagers think the dragon is dead they rush it saying "Meat, Meat, Meat."  We all told him it made no sense, but he's the type of person that rather than admit he's wrong would entrench more adamantly into his position.  He thought we were trying to make him look stupid, we kept saying:  "No we're trying to make you look smart!"  One astute  reviewer noticed this glaring inconsistency of idiocy.  I write about what went wrong with this and other things in my forward of the published screenplay (which has no pigs in it). But this idiotic gap of logic that everone let slide rather than force the director to get rid of it tells the tale of DRAGONHEART.  Let's knowingly do something that's wrong rather than put of with the aggravation of reining in a childish, egomaniacal direction.

One last story.  One day the producer was commenting on how much she like the storyboard artist's work.  The director, full of umbrage, immediately piped up:  "But I told her what to draw!"

Ugh!  Bad Karma!  Oh, now you made me dredge all this shit up again.  I need an acid reducer.