Topic: WHERE IS FLAIR? (Read 46827 times)

Jennifer · « **Reply #180 on:** January 09, 2004, 12:51:22 PM »

Quote from: TCB on January 09, 2004, 12:36:36 PM

Jennifer, I know you didn't ask my opinion, but when has that ever stopped any of us? Personally, I dislike the fact that the Tony committee is always changing or redefining their rules to accomadate a certain show or performer. I believe Assassins, by definition, should be considered a new musical. How can you justify labeling a show a revival when it has never previously played a Broadway house?

I am curious, Jennifer, how familiar you are with the show Assassins? Have you seen the show produced? Are you familiar with the score? You say that you can't imagine it up against Wicked or Avenue Q. Why not?

I have not seen Assassins performed. But to me the concept of a new musical is something NEW. I would put Assassins in the same category as Little Shop. Just because they haven't played Broadway does not make them new. IMO, if a show has appeared off-broadway, and has been performed around the country, then it should not be considered a new musical.

That is what I meant by "I can't imagine it up against Wicked or avenue Q".

To me the Tony nom committee has to occasionally adapt the rules. They shouldn't just put Assassins into best new musical (just because it's never been on broadway) without really considering the issue.

My question though, is what are they going to do? I'm sure most people in the know must have a good idea. So will it be a revival?

Jane · « **Reply #181 on:** January 09, 2004, 12:51:54 PM »

[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]Congratulations to our newest God, George![/move]

Ben · « **Reply #182 on:** January 09, 2004, 12:53:01 PM »

Congratulations on your acension George. Welcome to the top clouds.

Jennifer · « **Reply #183 on:** January 09, 2004, 01:00:12 PM »

Quote from: George on January 09, 2004, 12:44:04 PM

I am ALWAYS "watching" items. I have lost things so many times before that option was created. Acutually, I either lost track of or bid on way too many things. That got to be real expensive.

It is driving me crazy. And I am so stubborn I need to find it.

George also wrote:

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Okay, now I'm really hungry. I'm waiting for a co-worker to get out of a meeting then we'll go to Subway. But I'm hungry NOW!!!!! You'd think that a HHW God could have lunch whenever he/she wanted, but NO. I have to wait. GGRRRR!

Ha ha. Congrats.

George · « **Reply #184 on:** January 09, 2004, 01:01:39 PM »

Quote from: Jane on January 09, 2004, 12:51:54 PM

[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]Congratulations to our newest God, George![/move]

and

Quote from: Ben on January 09, 2004, 12:53:01 PM

Congratulations on your acension George. Welcome to the top clouds.

[shadow=lime green,left]Thanks! Thanks for the adulation!

May it continue indefinitely! (just kidding...I know I'm only a baby God

)[/shadow]

But of course, I'm still hungry! $:-\$

Jane · « **Reply #185 on:** January 09, 2004, 01:03:17 PM »

What happened to NEW option?

Nothing in my DVD player today until the mail arrives with, I hope, a new Netflix.

Funny picture with the clever additions Ben.

Ron I do hope you feel better tomorrow.

Ann that was a sweet homecoming-very touching.

Emily I find long hair much easier than short. There are more things you can do with it, and on a bad hair day just tie it into a pony tail.

bk · « **Reply #186 on:** January 09, 2004, 01:03:27 PM »

The La Chiusa was just too atonal and weird for me. Some of it was fine, but I just found it relentless and loud. I was sitting next to Fred Ebb and afterwards he turned to me and said, "You're not recording this are you?"

I might like the Lippa better if I had seen it - one never knows.

TCB · « **Reply #187 on:** January 09, 2004, 01:06:27 PM »

Congratulations, God!

Jennifer, if that were the case, then should shows that opened off-Broadway and then later moved to Broadway, be ineligible for Tony consideration except as a Revival? Should Rent have been ineligible for the Tony, because it started life Off-Broadway, and also won the Obie?

George · « **Reply #188 on:** January 09, 2004, 01:12:57 PM »

Thanks, TCB!

Darn. I just found out that the meeting that my co-worker is in, will last until 2:00. I have to wait almost another hour until I will get to go to Subway for lunch!

Speaking of revivals: FEED ME!!!

bk · « **Reply #189 on:** January 09, 2004, 01:14:52 PM »

I know you're out there, I can hear you breathing.

I just et my final Quizno's sandwich at this particular job. I had a new one today - turkey, guacamole, provolone and bacon on a big roll.

td · « **Reply #190 on:** January 09, 2004, 01:15:13 PM »

Cograts, George! Isn't the air beautiful up here? ? ?

td · « **Reply #191 on:** January 09, 2004, 01:16:23 PM »

AND NOW, SINCE IT IS INDEED DR EVIL TWIN'S BIRTHDAY, I thought that maybe we could take a stroll down memory lane with Janet:

td · « **Reply #192 on:** January 09, 2004, 01:17:06 PM »

more, more, more they say:

td · « **Reply #193 on:** January 09, 2004, 01:17:46 PM »

there's STILL more:

td · « **Reply #194 on:** January 09, 2004, 01:18:53 PM »

and who do we have here?

bk · « **Reply #195 on:** January 09, 2004, 01:19:41 PM »

Hey, TD, I can't do it from work, but why don't you let the folks over at the SS board know about our brand spanking new The DVD Place. For those who've been participating in threads, all your answers have been answered.

td · « **Reply #196 on:** January 09, 2004, 01:20:46 PM »

we've all seen this:

Tomovoz · « **Reply #197 on:** January 09, 2004, 01:21:12 PM »

Congratulations George.
Well said TCB
BTW: I still wonder why "Rent" was awarded anything . Maybe it was because if the Upper Case letters. An unpleasant theatrical experience for me.

td · « **Reply #198 on:** January 09, 2004, 01:21:43 PM »

Quote from: bk on January 09, 2004, 01:19:41 PM

Hey, TD, I can't do it from work, but why don't you let the folks over at the SS board know about our brand spanking new The DVD Place. For those who've been participating in threads, all your answers have been answered.

I'm on my way to the Street now, where I'm argueing the merits of SINGIN' IN THE RAIN opposed to MOULIN ROUGE.

td · « **Reply #199 on:** January 09, 2004, 01:22:42 PM »

Maybe Later, I'll show you some of Evil Twin's work as a photographer. . .

TCB · « **Reply #200 on:** January 09, 2004, 01:23:28 PM »

Wow, td, I never realized so many people wanted to have their picture taken with Janet!

Jennifer · « **Reply #201 on:** January 09, 2004, 01:23:30 PM »

Quote from: TCB on January 09, 2004, 01:06:27 PM

Congratulations, God!

Jennifer, if that were the case, then should shows that opened off-Broadway and then later moved to Broadway, be ineligible for Tony consideration except as a Revival? Should Rent have been ineligible for the Tony, because it started life Off-Broadway, and also won the Obie?

No, if a show opens Off-Broadway and gets good reviews and then moves to Broadway it should of course be considered new (just as Avenue Q will be considered new). But when a show played off-broadway 10+ years ago or has toured around the country then it doesn't seem new to me.

Maybe I just go with my gut feeling.

TCB, why do you think Assassins should be considered in the new musical category. Is it merely because it has never technically been on broadway?

Matt H. · « **Reply #202 on:** January 09, 2004, 01:24:18 PM »

I agree with you, DR TCB, about ASSASSINS being considered a new musical. It played two months at the limited seating-subscription selling Playwrights Horizon, never had an open ended run on OR off Broadway, so I think it definitely should be considered a new Broadway musical.

The Tonys are a Broadway award. It shouldn't matter how many other places a show has playedaround the country or around the world. When a musical plays New York for the first time in a venue where the run is open and tickets are available to the general public, that's its debut. Any other New York production could then be considered a revival, but this production never was offered to the public at large nor ran long enough to transfer to a theater where it could have had an open ended run. Therefore, I think it should be considered a new musical to Broadway and have its score considered as a new score.

However, I'm betting now that it won't be, and the score won't be eligible for Best Score either.

td · « **Reply #203 on:** January 09, 2004, 01:27:47 PM »

BK - - the word has been spread on Scarlet Street:

http://pub134.ezboard.com/fscarletstreetdvdandvideo.showMessageRange?topicID=205.topic&start=1251&stop=1266

td · « **Reply #204 on:** January 09, 2004, 01:28:26 PM »

Quote from: TCB on January 09, 2004, 01:23:28 PM

Wow, td, I never realized so many people wanted to have their picture taken with Janet!

You know what they say, "when you've got it, flaunt it."

Robin · « **Reply #205 on:** January 09, 2004, 01:30:01 PM »

What's in the media players? Well...

CDS:

Wicked by Stephen Schwartz.
Avenue Q by Lopez, Marx and Witty (doesn't that sound like a Communist law firm?)
Peter Pan by James Newton Howard.
A Summer Place by Max Steiner.

DVDs:

The Dick Van Dyke Show, Seasons 1 and 2.
X2
The Searchers, a movie I've become quite obsessed with over the years.

Jennifer · « **Reply #206 on:** January 09, 2004, 01:30:13 PM »

DR Tom from oz: I love rent! I was addicted to the cd before I ever saw it. But the OBC was amazing.

Wow BK: That comment from Fred Ebb was OUCH!

JMK · « **Reply #207 on:** January 09, 2004, 01:31:27 PM »

Re: LaChiusa and BK's comments. A dear friend of mine who may or may not be currently performing on Broadway was hired to sing through some of Michael John's new material. He said it was, due to in fact the "weirdness" of the music, one of the most professionally frustrating gigs of his career. In his words, he left "feeling dirty."

Matt H. · « **Reply #208 on:** January 09, 2004, 01:32:32 PM »

I know several people who paid to sit in other people's LAPS just for the chance to see ASSASSINS before it closed at Playwrights Horizons.

I am SO looking forward to seeing this production if it will only run into the summer.

Matt H. · « **Reply #209 on:** January 09, 2004, 01:37:18 PM »

Sorry to hear you're under the weather, DR Ron. Chicken soup, that's the ticket!

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Ben