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Title: THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: bk on January 13, 2004, 12:02:31 AM
Well, we got rhythm, don't we, so let's post until the cows come home or, at the very least, until the pigs come home.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Tomovoz on January 13, 2004, 12:34:02 AM
"Firefly", "Witchcraft", "The Best Is Yet to Come", Where Am I Going?", "You're Nothing Withut Me", I've Got Your Number", "Real Live Girl", "With Every Breath I Take" , "Welcome To Holiday Inn" and "Nobody Does It Like Me. That should do for a start. I quite like "The Life" but don't really know it that well. (would need to play it check the songs).
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: S. Woody White on January 13, 2004, 01:39:51 AM
Dear DR Jose: Right now, der Brucer is sleeping in Long Beach, finishing getting our stuff moved.

Ordinarily, we have two bedrooms, and use both.  I've got a nasty habit of tossing about when I sleep, and thus separate beds.

Also ordinarily, Marty and Mikey cuddle with der Brucer, and the pups cuddle with me.  (Kelsey is quite happy on the floor, thank-you.  At his age, getting up and down from a bed is more than he can handle.)  But, since der Brucer is out of town, M & M have moved in for the duration.

I wouldn't be up at this hour, but Kelsey decided to get up, and then fell into the water dish.  I didn't know he could still howl like that!
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Laura II on January 13, 2004, 01:41:37 AM
Aww, that's a cute story, Uncle Woody! Poor Kelsey.

I'll post my song choices later. Goodnight/morning all!
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: S. Woody White on January 13, 2004, 01:41:50 AM
Cy Coleman.  "Witchcraft."  "Hey, Big Spender."  "You Can Always Count On Me."  "Real Live Girl."
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: S. Woody White on January 13, 2004, 01:44:34 AM
Aww, that's a cute story, Uncle Woody! Poor Kelsey.
Cute?  Have you ever tried to dry off an old, wet daschund at four in the morning?   :-\
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Jrand73 on January 13, 2004, 02:46:45 AM
Hmmmmmmmmm......"You Can Always Count On Me" and "Hey Look Me Over."  To start with.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Jrand73 on January 13, 2004, 03:55:49 AM
Congratulations LauraII!

Oh, some Cy Coleman I would like to hear is his music for the play "Compulsion."  And he did a LOT of work for Republic Pictures, too, I think.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Michael on January 13, 2004, 04:28:43 AM
Cy Coleman

My Absolute Favorite Song:
Our Private World (On the 20th Century)

Maybe the least known
Hey There In the Back Row (13 Weeks to Broadway)

and all the others in no order
Hey Look Me Over (Wildcat)
My Friend (The Life) See yesterday as well
With Every Breath I Take (City Of Angels)
You're Nothing Without Me (City Angels)
Where Am I Going? (Sweet Charity)
The Rhythm of Life (Sweet Chairty)
There's Got Be Something Better Than This (Sweet Charity)
I'm Way Ahead (Seesaw)
There is a Sucker (Barnum)
Thank God I'm Old (Barnum)
The colors of My Life (Barnum)
Museum Song (Barnum)
Black and White (Barnum)
Join the Circus (Barnum)
Hey There Good Times (I Love My Wife)
Love Revolution (I Love My Wife)
Be a Performer (Little Me)
The Other Side of theTracks (Little Me)

and non book songs
The Best Is Yet To Come
Witchcraft

Film Song
The Heartbreak Kid


Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Noel on January 13, 2004, 04:33:57 AM
The Rhythm of Life is one of my favorite Colemans, and also:
I Walk a Little Faster
Pass Me By
Real Live Girl
Together
There's Gotta Be Something Better Than This
With Every Breath I Take
Pink Taffeta Sample Size Ten
My Personal Property
A Doodlin' Song
You There In the Back Row
When In Rome, I Do as the Romans Do
I Love My Wife

Oddly, some of his bigger hits contain no songs that I admire: Barnum, Will Rogers Follies, The Life
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on January 13, 2004, 04:51:19 AM
Some favorite Cy Coleman songs that spring to mind:

My Friend (The Life), Our Private World (On the 20th Century), Where Am I Going? (Sweet Charity), You're Nothing Without Me (City of Angels), I'm Way Ahead (Seesaw) and I've Got Your Number (Little Me). Also: just about any Cy Coleman overture.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Ben on January 13, 2004, 06:03:12 AM
I am back at work but without phones. We do have the Internet but I won't be around much today since we were closed yesterday and we need to clean up (there was a flood) and also make up for an unexpected day off.

Didn't get to read much of anything yesterday or any of the weekend notes. I've got me quite a bit of readin' to do.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Ben on January 13, 2004, 06:15:47 AM
Since I seem to have some time to kill (sorry, Time, you never did anything to me, I don't want to kill you, but I have to do it), I will now post the picture of the infamous Spotted Dick!.

If you are squeamish or worried about possible trauma, please do NOT go to the next post! I warn you now. You will see a sight rarely seen in the United States. A sight so different, so unusual, so "British" that it can only be called "Spotted Dick"  ;)
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Ben on January 13, 2004, 06:18:24 AM
Here it is (I hope it's big enough to see clearly). Remember, I warned you!
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Ben on January 13, 2004, 06:20:01 AM
BTW (by the way), the Benjy's reference in the picture is actually the name of the restaurant we were in. It has nothing to do with me. It is a very busy and popular place on Earl's Court Road. I would certainly like to be affiliated with it, perhaps it could underwrite a long-term stay in London.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Ben on January 13, 2004, 06:20:41 AM
Also, the stuff on top is vanilla ice cream (a She Loves Me reference).
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Post by: Ben on January 13, 2004, 06:21:39 AM
It was, if you're wondering, quite tasty.

Tomorrow, perhaps, a picture of a full English breakfast. Don't ask. My boyfriend loves to take pictures of food.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on January 13, 2004, 06:23:31 AM
You can make your own spotted dick, but you really need shredded suet.

(Only the British would come up with a dessert that calls for fat off of a beef kidney.)
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Ben on January 13, 2004, 06:27:09 AM
Dan, you're about to become a full member. 101 does it as I remember.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Jrand73 on January 13, 2004, 06:27:35 AM
I have no response to that.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: William E. Lurie on January 13, 2004, 06:29:35 AM
My favorite Coleman score is LITTLE ME; my favorite Coleman pop song is "When in Rome".

BK - Is there a link on this here site to the new DVD site?  I didn't have a chance to check it out when you originally posted the link and I don't remember which day's notes it was in.  A link or the URL would be helpful.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on January 13, 2004, 06:36:00 AM
Ben, Thanks for the head's up. Maybe I'll celebrate with some spotted dick. Or, as Benjy says, and I wonder why, spotted dick dessert.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on January 13, 2004, 06:39:10 AM
From Ethel Merman's autobiography:

When I Love My Wife opened, I was approached to record "Everyone Today Is Turning On." I might have done it. It has an attractive melody, but Irving [her accountant] pointed out that it promoted all the permissiveness I'm against."

Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Jennifer on January 13, 2004, 06:55:23 AM
The link to the DVD Place is:
http://dvds.allaccessworld.com
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Jrand73 on January 13, 2004, 06:59:49 AM
DinTO's quote made me think....  Outside of her cast albums, did Ethel Merman have a BIG recording career?  I can only think of her "disco" album, but did she record for someone else when she was on Broadway?

Should we look on EBAY for "Ethel Merman Swings Fats Domino" and "Ethel Merman Meets the Beatles"......or maybe her album with Prez Prado....  "Simplemente Ethel."
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Jennifer on January 13, 2004, 07:07:42 AM
[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]Hey Congrats Laura II!!!!   [/move]
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on January 13, 2004, 07:10:46 AM
DinTO's quote made me think....  Outside of her cast albums, did Ethel Merman have a BIG recording career?  I can only think of her "disco" album, but did she record for someone else when she was on Broadway?

Should we look on EBAY for "Ethel Merman Swings Fats Domino" and "Ethel Merman Meets the Beatles"......or maybe her album with Prez Prado....  "Simplemente Ethel."


LOL. Maybe we should ask Irving.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Panni on January 13, 2004, 07:37:53 AM
Good morning. Today's the Yahrzeit (anniversary) of my mother's death in 1992. She always wanted to be an actress and I think I gave her a proper sendoff by making sure that her death was noted in Variety. Of course, she was probably annoyed that it was as "mother of". When I was an actress, whenever anyone would compliment her on my talent in my presence, she'd say, "Yes, she gets it from me. I wanted to be an actress, but my father wouldn't let me. In those days girls from good families didn't become actresses." All said with a thick Hungarian accent and a great deal of panache. I used to resent her saying that (big time) but now that I'm older and slightly mellower, I've come to realize that she was right -- I did get it from her.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on January 13, 2004, 07:38:03 AM
From Ethel Merman's autobiography:

When I Love My Wife opened, I was approached to record "Everyone Today Is Turning On." I might have done it. It has an attractive melody, but Irving [her accountant] pointed out that it promoted all the permissiveness I'm against."



(Forgive me for quoting myself.)

I don't know "Everyone Today is Turning On." Is it any worse than "Doin' What Comes Naturally"?
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 13, 2004, 07:39:49 AM
I'm pretty sure there's a codex somewhere that recommends shunning spotted dick.

It certainly doesn't SOUND appetizing.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 13, 2004, 07:42:26 AM
I'm shocked, actually, at the few posts greeting me at this early PST hour.

I normally visit around 8 a.m. and there are usually  two-three full pages of east coast posties.  

Where in tarnation IS everyone today?

I have a class in 20 minutes which shall consume my time until noon, or thereabouts.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Ben on January 13, 2004, 07:48:03 AM
I just finished reading yesterday's posts and now I need to move on to Sunday, Saturday and Friday. Since our database is down and it's hard to work without it (we have become too dependent on computers - and this from a man who loves computers), I will do some more catch up reading.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on January 13, 2004, 07:48:29 AM
DR Panni,

What a sensational sendoff that was. And it seems like you've inherited your mother's panache.

When the time comes, I'd love to be remembered in Variety. Ideally, as "star of." Realistically, I'm hoping "HHW God" will do the trick.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Jrand73 on January 13, 2004, 07:58:27 AM
Thanks for the story, DRPanni!  
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Jason on January 13, 2004, 08:04:40 AM
DR Ron: I've seen WICKED twice on Broadway. It was a thrilling experience both times, and one that I hope to enjoy again.

I just shared the...um..."joys" of Mrs. Miller with a co-worker. He laughed and laughed and laughed. Now to introduce him to Ms. Florence Foster Jenkins. :D

TOTD: I'm not a huge fan of Cy Coleman, to be honest. I guess "Something Better Than This" and "The Oldest Professional" (or whatever it's called) are my two favorite Cy songs.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Ben on January 13, 2004, 08:05:11 AM
I have now finished Sunday posts and will go back to Saturday.

DR Charles Pogue, I, also, would love to hear your Mary Astor story at some point. Anthony just finished reading My Story (a paperback copy re-published in the early 60s and falling apart - I think it was a Dell and cost something like 95 cents) and found it very enjoyable. There are pictures of her grave site on the Internet. While searching to see if there was any other bio of her (besides A Life in Film) we came across the information that she wrote, I think, 6 novels. Very interesting.
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Post by: MBarnum on January 13, 2004, 08:06:26 AM
I wonder if one can be put in Variety as "Fan of..."? LOL!

I'll bet your mom was very proud to be "mother of..." Panni! What was your stage name, I have forgotten!
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Jrand73 on January 13, 2004, 08:17:25 AM
DR Jason - if you are talking about Mrs. Elva Miller produced on Capitol by Mr Paul Weston, I have to ask you if you are familiar with the Piano Stylings and Vocal Interpretations of Jonathon and Darlene Edwards?
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: William E. Lurie on January 13, 2004, 08:18:13 AM
Jason - A new Florence Foster Jenkins CD was just released.  It has the old standards plus a lot of other previously unreleased selections.

Re Ethel Merman's recording career: The Merm made a number of recordings throughout her career, most currently available on CD, but none were really hits.  She was one of those larger than life performers who was a major stage name but never reached the same popularity in any other medium even though she did it all.  I would place Mary Martin, Gwen Verdon and Carol Channing in the same category (although Channing had some success in nightclubs).  The only man I can think of that probably also falls into that category is Alfred Drake.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Jason on January 13, 2004, 08:20:09 AM
I'm speaking of Mrs. Miller who sang such classic 60's tunes as "Downtown" and "Let's Hang On," and did some fantastic birdcalls, as well.

No, I'm not familiar with the piano stylings and vocal interpretations of Jonathon and Darlene Edwards, unless they're the couple who did their own translation of FAUST, which has been preserved on the album "Florence Foster Jenkins: The Glory (????) of the Human Voice." Are they the ones?? If so, they're SPECIAL!
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: William E. Lurie on January 13, 2004, 08:21:52 AM
Jrand---
I love Jonathon and Darlene.  Darlene's rendition of "It's Magic" beats Doris Day's, and I have never heard a better collection of French songs.  I understand she is Jo Staford's favorite vocalist.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Jason on January 13, 2004, 08:22:34 AM
For highlights of Mrs. Miller's vocal stylings, please go to the link below...It's worth it!

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00000J600/qid
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Ben on January 13, 2004, 08:25:01 AM
I am now up to page 7 of Saturday's notes. I will take a break for the benefit of my wrist and eyes. I will return later and read the rest of Saturday and then gird my loins to be able to read Friday posts.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Ben on January 13, 2004, 08:25:37 AM
I think Jason's link put us into Cinerama
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Post by: Matt H. on January 13, 2004, 08:31:59 AM
Favorite Coleman songs:

#1 by far: "Lost and Found" from CITY OF ANGELS (but I love all of this score)

"It's a Nice Face" and "My Personal Property" from the SWEET CHARITY film are both appealing ditties.
"There's Gotta Be Something Better Than This"
"Little Me" and "I've Got Your Number" from LITTLE ME
"Hey, Look Me Over" from WILDCAT
"Being Lovers on Christmas Eve" from I LOVE ME WIFE
"Come Follow the Band" from BARNUM
"The Best Is Yet to Come"


Speaking of Cy Coleman, who saw WELCOME TO THE CLUB and/or who's heard the score? Always been curious about this bomb.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Jrand73 on January 13, 2004, 08:39:49 AM
Ahhhhh - DRJason - Mrs. Miller (and we are speaking of the same person) appeared on Merv Griffin's television show several times and in a MOVIE with Mr Roddy McDowell!

The Edwards' are NOT featured on the album you mentioned, that I know of....but they are special people and you need their CD!  As DR WEL said, Darlene's "It's Magic" is transcendant.....and indeed their French songs are nonpareil.  Individually Johathon's "Nola" and Darlene's "You're Blase" are highlights for me, although it's hard to pick a favorite.  And yes DRWEL, I think Jo has gone on record saying Darlene is a favorite....I know as a tribute to Jo and Paul Weston, the Grammy that the Edwards' won was given to Jo and Paul.  Darlene still expresses dismay that it was for Comedy Album of the Year and is certain they were nominated in the wrong category.

Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Ben on January 13, 2004, 08:41:00 AM
Never saw Welcome to the Club, but I agree about City of Angels. I LOVE this show. The duet, You're Nothing Without Me is so wonderful.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Matt H. on January 13, 2004, 08:50:21 AM
I was hoping William E. Lurie might have seen WELCOME TO THE CLUB though I think it only lasted 16 performances or something equally small. But I read somewhere that the score was pretty tuneful. Just curious.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Matt H. on January 13, 2004, 08:52:09 AM
Well, we're getting some of the West Coast's glorious weather today. Going to be sunny and in the 60s. Pretty great for mid-January. I'll be cleaning off my roof and clearing gutters this afternoon.
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on January 13, 2004, 08:55:00 AM
Regarding Welcome To The Club, A.E. Hotchner had a far more successful collaboration with Paul Newman (Newman's Own) than he did with Cy Coleman. Sally Mayes  (later of Urban Cowboy; what's with these roles?), who won a Theatre Award for WTTC, does a superb Our Private World on the album of the same name. None of which answers DRMattH's question.

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Post by: Emily on January 13, 2004, 08:56:37 AM
Good morning all!

I don't know my Cy Coleman at all... so that topic is out for me :(

On the other hand I do have a very funny (well, funny in hindsight) story to tell:

Yesterday I was asked to buy a copy of the National Post by my work colleague and to bring it into the office so that we could have a hard copy of a story that quoted our Toronto boss from it.  So, before getting on the bus to head off, I stopped in at the dep on the corner of my street to pick one up.

The store had a rack of papers with the National Post being at the very bottom - so I had to squat down to pick it up.  Meanwhile, a woman was pouring herself a cup of coffee (it was one of those deps with a "breakfast station") and, not seeing me on the ground, swirved to avoid me at the last second.  Unfortunately, she was then so off balance she dropped the cup of coffee.  On my head.  

Luckily my hat absorbed most of the *very hot* coffee, but I still had to go home, shower and change into the first non-wet clothes I could find and THEN transport myself all the way across the island to the office.

The woman who spilled the coffee was really embarassed at least and ended up buying the paper for me.

The clerk at the dep who had to clean up the coffee spillage was less than amused.

My scalp is slightly tingly from a very minor burn.  At least I have a funny story to tell now though! :D

Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on January 13, 2004, 08:57:40 AM
Never saw Welcome to the Club, but I agree about City of Angels. I LOVE this show. The duet, You're Nothing Without Me is so wonderful.

Is that the only Broadway song, ever, that includes the word "bubkes" in its lyrics?
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Post by: Matt H. on January 13, 2004, 09:02:29 AM
Is that the only Broadway song, ever, that includes the word "bubkes" in its lyrics?


It may be the only Broadway show, but it's not the only song. There's a famous episode of THE DICK VAN DYKE SHOW that revolves around a song called "Bupkis" which Rob wrote with another fellow in the army.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Jrand73 on January 13, 2004, 09:03:40 AM
DR EMILY we are creatures of habit.  You had never been there at that minute of the day....no one was expecting you.  Look around you when you are at the place you always are at the same time of day....  Or look at your watch now and then....you are in the same place at the same time....nearly every day.  You upset the balance of nature and caused a rift in the continuim.  

Ask TD about Heidelberg's Uncertainty Principle.
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Post by: Jane on January 13, 2004, 09:13:35 AM

SSW I have not cuddled with four dogs at once, only three dogs and three cats at once. I can’t help but laugh at your late night pet story.  “Oh the joys of having pets”.  I believe the studies determining pets reduce stress are only done during the fun times, certainly not when one is tending to a pet in the middle of the night. :)
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Post by: bk on January 13, 2004, 09:16:09 AM
Good morning, Miss Dove.  You've all named my favorite Coleman songs already (I really do adore his music), but I'll add the obscure Then Was Then, And Now Is Now as done by Miss Peggy Lee, and especially What Takes My Fancy, Hey, Look Me Over, You've Come Home and Tall Hope from Wildcat.
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Post by: MBarnum on January 13, 2004, 09:17:23 AM
DR Emily, LOL! If you had not had your hat on, you might have ended up with that new hairstyle you have been wanting...plus some slight scalp problems!
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Post by: Jane on January 13, 2004, 09:19:46 AM
Panni thank you for sharing the moving story of your mother.  My mother has been gone a long time yet I often miss her.  
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Post by: Jane on January 13, 2004, 09:20:39 AM
MBarnum I forgot about the new hairstyle.  That was precious-funny too.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on January 13, 2004, 09:26:48 AM
DR Jason - When (not "if", but "when"!) you get the Jonathan and Darlene Edwards album, be sure to look at the cover art very closely.  It will make the album much more enjoyable. ;)  *My piano teacher in college introduced me to them... And I would actually like to find a copy of the LP just to have an "orginal" size copy of the art - and the liner notes!

DR Ben - I'm actually hoping to take Steve to the Chip Shop in Park Slope when I'm up in the city starting tomorrow(!).  I believe they have Spotted Dick on their menu, maybe not, I can't remember...In any case, I usually end up getting the fried Twinkie and/or fried Snickers bar for dessert.  :-X  -Oh, and their Fish & Chips are pretty good too.

As for Cy Coleman songs:

"There Is Nothing Like A Train" - There is nothing like the first time when the people you're teaching this too finally get it!  What a great entr'acte/second act opening number.
"Our Private World"
"Never" - Another song I love playing at auditions.
"I'll Make Her Mine" - One of the rare duets for two men.
"You There in the Back Row" - Ah, Liz Callaway - Thank You, BK
"There's Gotta Be Something Better Than This" - Dontcha just love it when the accompaniment is in "2", but the melody is in "3" - "Everyone do the hemiola!"  *Of course, this is one of those songs which is virtually impossible to give the tempo for at auditions. ;)
"Lost and Found", "With Ev'ry Breath I Take", "What You Don't Know About Women", "You Can Always Count On Me" - Basically the women's songs from City of Angels.  ;)

-And many others I can't think of right now...

Well, time for me to get ready for my trip up to the Big Apple tomorrow!  I'll check back in later.
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Post by: Jrand73 on January 13, 2004, 09:37:36 AM
DR Jose is this the picture you meant?  ;D
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Post by: td on January 13, 2004, 09:38:14 AM

Ask TD about Heidelberg's Uncertainty Principle.

You can have a bus; but you can't have a bus schedule. . .
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Post by: Jrand73 on January 13, 2004, 09:42:09 AM
Right!
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Post by: Charles Pogue on January 13, 2004, 09:45:27 AM
Oh, my favourite Cy Coleman song is so easy and I don't think anyone else has yet mentioned it.

It's:  YOU FASCINATE ME SO

The rendition I know is through Bobby Short.  It's on a couple of his albums, Bobby Short on the East Side and My Personal Property...an album of nothing but  Cy Coleman tunes, all pretty good.

The lyrics are by Carolyn Leigh.  The tune for a failed musical originally called Thirteen Daughters written by a young Hawaiian scion Eaton McGoon, the only son in a family of fourteen children.  This particular number revolved around a scene where an island girl is bewitching a clergyman.

Ms. Leigh's wonderful lyrics:

I have a feeling that beneath the little halo
on your noble head
There lies a thought or two the devil might
be int'rested to know.
You're like the finish of a novel that I'll
fin'lly have to take to bed,
You fascinate me so!

I feel like Christopher Columbus when
I'm near enough to contemplate
The sweet geography descending from
your eyebrow to your toe.
The possibilities are more than I can
possibly enumerate,
That's why you fascinate me so.

So sermonize and preach to me,
Make your sanctimonious little speech
to me,
But, oh, my darling, you'll forgive my
inability to concentrate.
I think I'm dealing with a powder keg
that's just about to blow.
Will the end result deflate me,
Or will you annihilate me?
You fascinate me so!
You aggravate,
You irritate me,
You fascinate me so!

Actually, Bobby Short is the only person I have ever heard sing this song.  Does anyone know of anyone else who has recorded it.  it's a great, great tune. One of my all-time favs.
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Post by: goldes on January 13, 2004, 09:50:09 AM
Hi, I'm one of those very truant people who used to post occasionally to the old HHW site, but never made the jump to 'poster' on this board - only having time to lurk.  Well, seeing Ben talk about his spotted dick, I knew it was time to de-lurk!

Living in London (but growing up in the US), I'm quite lucky to have had lots of friends and family come over and stay with me.  You can guarantee that each one of them was forced to try our Toad in the Hole, followed by Spotted Dick.  Both foods are guaranteed to get a giggle, and an appreciative smile afterwards!

How can anyone choose a favourite Cy Coleman song!  There are just too many.  I love the score to On the  Twentieth Century...and The Life is just gorgeous.  "It Started With a Dream" on his new CD is also something special.  I recently saw a production of Will Rogers Follies and fell in love with the music.  Ever since I performed "One Brick at a time" from Barnum, I can't get the song out of my head (in a good way).  Sweet Charity.  Too many wonderful numbers to choose from, so instead I'll salute Gimme a Raincheck, which was cut from the show.  

I've never really given "I Love My Wife" a chance...probably best I go try that CD again now!

Stephen  
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Post by: Jennifer on January 13, 2004, 09:56:12 AM
DR Emily, LOL! If you had not had your hat on, you might have ended up with that new hairstyle you have been wanting...plus some slight scalp problems!

You guys are mean! :)

Poor DR Emily.  But I wonder, how hot could depanneur coffee really be? :)
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Post by: Matt H. on January 13, 2004, 10:00:33 AM
Welcome, Dear Reader and New Poster goldes, to the new forum. Glad you're joining us. Nice Coleman selections, too.
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Post by: TCB on January 13, 2004, 10:03:05 AM
DinTO's quote made me think....  Outside of her cast albums, did Ethel Merman have a BIG recording career?  I can only think of her "disco" album, but did she record for someone else when she was on Broadway?

Should we look on EBAY for "Ethel Merman Swings Fats Domino" and "Ethel Merman Meets the Beatles"......or maybe her album with Prez Prado....  "Simplemente Ethel."

I believe the album you are looking for is:

 
Ethel Merman's "Sweating To The Oldies"
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Post by: William E. Lurie on January 13, 2004, 10:05:03 AM
Sorry, I never saw "Welcome to the Club" in either of its NY productions.  Before I was a York subscriber they did a "new" Coleman show (I don't remember the name) that turned out to be a revised "Welcome to the Club".  It was not one of their more successful productions.

JRand - that is the CD cover which is similar to the LP cover and has the same effect.

My Jonathon and Darlene story... Back in my youth, I was assistant manager at a movie theatre in Chicago that featured primarily foreign films.  We had a phonograph in the lobby (for younger readers, a phonograph was a pre-CD, pre-cassette, pre-8 track way of playing pre-recorded music) and when there was a large crowd we would put on the first Jonathon and Darlene LP as background music.  We never got any comments... positive or negative.  One night I borrowed the LP to listen to on my day off.  That night I turned on the news and discovered the theatre had burned down on my day off which is how the album ended up in my collection.  For those of you who wonder what happened to me, I was assigned a different theatre in the same chain... one that played less artistic films and did not have a phonograph in the lobby.
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Post by: Ben on January 13, 2004, 10:22:50 AM
According to Playbill On-Line the small cabaret space, The King Kong Room has closed unexpectedly. It was supposed tlose in February anyway but the owner pushed up the date and cancelled everything as of yesterday. I remember DRs Kerry and Music Guy having a wonderful Liza experience when they were here in NY to celebrate their special time together.
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Post by: td on January 13, 2004, 10:27:05 AM
http://www.aip.org/history/heisenberg/p08.htm (http://www.aip.org/history/heisenberg/p08.htm)

Well, since Jack asked, here's some research material I came up with on Heisenberg's Uncertainthy Principle.

Ain't HHW eductional? ! ? ! ? !
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Post by: TCB on January 13, 2004, 10:27:29 AM
Here it is (I hope it's big enough to see clearly). Remember, I warned you!

Can we expect to see a picture of Ant eating Benjy's spotted dick?
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Post by: td on January 13, 2004, 10:28:38 AM
Oh, my favourite Cy Coleman song is so easy and I don't think anyone else has yet mentioned it.

It's:  YOU FASCINATE ME SO


Actually, Bobby Short is the only person I have ever heard sing this song.  Does anyone know of anyone else who has recorded it.  it's a great, great tune. One of my all-time favs.

Talk to your dear friend BK:  he produced a lovely version sung by Broadway's Randy Graff.
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Post by: td on January 13, 2004, 10:29:07 AM
Can we expect to see a picture of Ant eating Benjy's spotted dick?

I certainly hope so!
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Post by: Panni on January 13, 2004, 10:31:37 AM
What a sensational sendoff that was. And it seems like you've inherited your mother's panache.
That's high praise, indeed, DR Dan-in-TO! Thank you.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on January 13, 2004, 10:31:41 AM
Ben, I love a British breakfast.  Who else would think of baked beans as breakfast food.  And fried toast. Yum!  Did you have any Scotch Eggs while you were there?  Another of my favourites.

Okay...THE MARY ASTOR STORY.   Many years ago, somewhere in the mid-eighties, probably before some urchins on this message board were born, when Miss Astor was yet alive.  I, my wife, and a friend were lolling around our apartment (this is before I had bought a house) discussing what deserving venerable souls, pioneers of the cinematic arts, had yet to receive a Lifetime Achievement Award from the AFI.  We felt women had been particularly stinted and started dropping names of the deserving.

I brought up Mary Astor, one of my all-tiime favourite actresses, who, though all too often in supporting roles, was better than the leads.  And after all, who is more of a pioneer in cinema than a woman who had had her virginity plucked by a forty-odd year old John Barrymore when she was only seventeen?  The first of many tempestuous love affairs the most famous...and exposed...culminating with George Kaufman about whose prowess and staying power she rhapsodized in her now-infamous diaries.

Anyway, our friend happened to work for AFTRA at the time and he said, "You know, she lives at the Motion Picture Home out in Woodland Hills."  It was decided then and there.  If AFI would not honour this film legend, we would.  We decided we go out to the Motion Picture Home that weekend with a bouquet of flowers.  

Somehow we thought security would be immense and that we would be forced to leave this little token of esteem and appreciation at the front desk...like most flower deliveries anywhere.

Oh, how wrong we were! These are the forgotten remanents and waiting cadavers of the movie industry.  No one but a few relatives or "drooling" fans like us knew that once some of these people were the height of glamour. The chirpy lady at the front desk smiled, looked in a directory, and said, "She is cabin number such and so."  And we were left free and unescorted to roam the interior grounds and wend our way to said cabin.  We were getting nervous.  Going to meet the famous lady herself.  

But threading through the ground did not inspire confidence.  These were OLD people we kept seeing on the winding pathways!  Arriving at her cabin inspired less confidence.  It was about the size of a small motel room.  There was a three-wheel bike blocking the entrance.  I was getting cold feet, but my friend manuvered around the cumbersome bike and boldly pounded on the door.  "Miss Astor?"  he sang out.  After what seemed like an eternity and several more knocks,  A low, slurred, sepulchral growl, harsh and leathery from too many cigarettes, rasped from within, "Whattya want?"  Somewhere within that  snarl was the recognizable timbre of what was once Mary Astor's voice.  Undeterred, our friend blithely responded:  "Flower delivery."   Another pause.  

"Well, come in," came the begrudging mutter.  At which point I had pretty much decided I was NOT going in.  As my friend pushed opened the door and I got a look at the tiny disarrayed kitchenette, I definitely decided I was not going in, even as our friend brazenly entered and my wife followed.  I don't think there would have been enough room for me in there anyway.

The rest of the rest of the story, I have to rely on the lovely wife Julieanne's description.  She says that as she turned around the door into the miniscule cubicle...one untidy room of minimal furnishings...Miss Astor...or a frazzled heap that might have resembled the gorgeous Miss Astor once upon a time, was still in bed and tugged the covers tighter around what was her apparently naked body.  She looked either drugged or hungover.  I can't remember whether there were actually empty liquor bottles and prescription containers littered about the shriveled kitchen counter or whether this was merely an embellishjment of my fevered imagination.  But this was like about one pm on a Sunday afternoon.  My guess: she had not gone to church  earlier that morning.

As my wife solicitiously asked her where she might like the flowers and our friend just nonchalantly ransacked her cupboards for a vase (He was a very fearless fellow when it came to celebrities he adored.  He went backstage to see Eartha Kitt once...an utter stranger to him...and ended up giving her a footrub in her dressing room.  My wife was with him on this occasion too), a guttural, vaguely threatening rumble emanated from out of the blanketed, tousled-thinning-haired heap on the bed.  I even heard it outside.  It said:  "Just leave the damned flowers and get out."

Which they did...but not before my friend actually did put them in something with water, I believe.  We then went to a nearby restaurant and consoled our busted illusions with a late lunch.  Ah, "The stuff that dreams are made of", indeed.  And if you've not seen the classic MALTESE FALCON, you'll not get the reference.
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Post by: Maya on January 13, 2004, 10:34:14 AM
I know I've already said it, but once more: CONGRATS TO LAURA II!!!!

My favorite Coleman songs are On the Other Side of the Tracks, I'm a Brass Band, With Every Breath I Take, and a lot of others!  

I believe the album you are looking for is:

 
Ethel Merman's "Sweating To The Oldies"

LMAO!  Oh, if only these albums really existed!  Does anyone have the Mermania albums?  They're great...they have her private recordings!
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Post by: Charles Pogue on January 13, 2004, 10:35:28 AM
td...or BK, for that matter, on which album is the BK-produced YOU FASCINATE ME SO?
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Post by: Ben on January 13, 2004, 10:36:29 AM
Quote from TCB  Posted on: Today at 01:27:29pm
 
"Can we expect to see a picture of Ant eating Benjy's spotted dick?"

DR TCB: I am shocked, do you hear, shocked, that you would ask such a question. This is, after all, a family site.  ;)

As I typed this little rejoinder to DR TCB, a Freudian slip slipped in to the message but I corrected it. It has to do with the word between "ask" and "a" I leave it to your imaginations, DRs
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Post by: Charles Pogue on January 13, 2004, 10:40:08 AM
My favourite Merman story.  She was starring in a new muscial with a young starlet who was just thrilled to see her dressing-room on opening night, enthusing:  "Oh, at last, I'm a star on Broadway!"  

At which point Merman disabused her of this notion, snapping:  "There are only two stars on Broadway, honey, me and Gertie Lawrence.  And Gertie's dead!"
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Post by: Panni on January 13, 2004, 10:42:02 AM
I have no favorite anything when it comes to songs, films, etc. The choice changes depending on the mood I'm in, plus I'm not the expert many of the DR's are. But as nobody had mentioned (I don't think) "If My Friends Could See me Now" - I will. It's a song (and a sentiment) that never fails to make me smile.
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Post by: Ben on January 13, 2004, 10:44:47 AM
I have now finished Saturday posts and will move on to Friday, part of which I read at work. It's the rest of it that you hooligans posted after I got home from work and went to bed that I needs must read.

Charles, I did have a Scotch Egg. I love them too. I get them during the holidays at a British store in the Village, Myers of Keswick. I also get individual mince pies. This year I don't have to buy Crackers (incredibly overpriced here) because on New Year's Eve we were in H.W. Smith at Sloane Square (closing, BTW, just that branch, not the entire H.W. Smith franchise) and they were selling boxes of 12 Christmas Crackers for 3 pounds (can't remember the ascii for the pound sign) so we brought a box home with us. I was, seriously, thinking, how do I explain these if Customs stops me. They have a cap in each end and pop when they are pulled correctly. Luckily, we breezed through Customs with nary a backward glance.
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Post by: bk on January 13, 2004, 10:47:29 AM
Pogue: I did a Randy Graff sings Cy Coleman album, some of which is terrific, some not so (Miss Graff, however, is always great) - I was not so thrilled with some of the arrangements and I was too busy to do anything but give my suggestions on them, most of which I found had been ignored when I arrived at the studio to do the album.   It's still a good album, sometimes a great album, but it could have been a great album all the way.
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Post by: bk on January 13, 2004, 10:48:14 AM
But Ben, have you read the NOTES for those days.  One simply must read the NOTES.
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Post by: TCB on January 13, 2004, 10:51:34 AM
Quote from TCB  Posted on: Today at 01:27:29pm
 
"Can we expect to see a picture of Ant eating Benjy's spotted dick?"

DR TCB: I am shocked, do you hear, shocked, that you would ask such a question. This is, after all, a family site.  ;)

As I typed this little rejoinder to DR TCB, a Freudian slip slipped in to the message but I corrected it. It has to do with the word between "ask" and "a" I leave it to your imaginations, DRs

I don't know what you could have possibly meant.
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Post by: Maya on January 13, 2004, 10:52:15 AM
My favourite Merman story.  She was starring in a new muscial with a young starlet who was just thrilled to see her dressing-room on opening night, enthusing:  "Oh, at last, I'm a star on Broadway!"  

At which point Merman disabused her of this notion, snapping:  "There are only two stars on Broadway, honey, me and Gertie Lawrence.  And Gertie's dead!"

LOL, I've never heard that one!  It's interesting how she neglected to add Mary Martin to that list...

I forgot to add Nobody Does It Like Me as one of my favorite Coleman songs!
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Post by: bk on January 13, 2004, 10:58:25 AM
Has no one actually read the notes?  What does the rhythm of life put in your fershluganah feet?  
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Post by: Jrand73 on January 13, 2004, 10:59:40 AM
DR CHARLES POGUE - thanks for sharing your Mary Astor story.  It was worth waiting for!  At least she got your flowers before she headed off to Holy Cross on Slauson!   And that sounds like a terrific song!

DRMAYA - I have the Mermania cd's.  Priceless.

DRWEL - I had to give your a Karma point for the Jonathan and Darlene Edwards story.  The LP escape of a lifetime!  I have their Volume 1 on CD and now I will have to get Volume 2.  I have 2 of their albums....but I don't have the one that has the song that makes me laugh the most (and that is saying a LOT)....The Carioca!   Aye caramba!

Ethel Merman Sweatin' To the Oldies!  OH my!!

How about her folk album?  Ethel Does It To Bob Dylan!

Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Ben on January 13, 2004, 11:01:39 AM
Yes, BK, I did read the notes. I posted my favorite Cy Coleman song but I've spent more time talking about England and reading old posts (one must stay current - not raisin but current - mustn't one) than I have about the topic of the day!
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Post by: Ben on January 13, 2004, 11:02:29 AM
Also, thanks to Charles for the Mary Astor story. I enjoyed it.
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Post by: Jrand73 on January 13, 2004, 11:04:14 AM
The Rhythm of Life actually put a tingle in your fingers AND a tingle in your feet!
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Post by: William E. Lurie on January 13, 2004, 11:05:02 AM
Okay you "American Idol" fans---
I have never seen (or had any desire to see) this show, but I've seen so much hype recently for a new series starring "American Idol's Ryan Seacreast" I have a couple of questions.  I know that a woman named Kelly and a brillo pad named Justin won the first season; and a Teddybear named Rueben and a restyled nerd named Clay won the second... so which season was this Ryan in and was he third or further down the list.  What kind of music does he sing?  Is he any good and if he is why do you think he was not one of the winners?
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Post by: S. Woody White on January 13, 2004, 11:06:58 AM
... Ah, "The stuff that dreams are made of", indeed.  And if you've not seen the classic MALTESE FALCON, you'll not get the reference.
Actually, having confessed to not having seen The Maltese Falcon (or, I think that's one of the films I've confessed to), I can say that the quote and the circumstances surrounding it are sufficiently known.  Good story, if sad.
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Post by: S. Woody White on January 13, 2004, 11:15:46 AM
Pogue: I did a Randy Graff sings Cy Coleman album, some of which is terrific, some not so (Miss Graff, however, is always great)...It's still a good album, sometimes a great album, but it could have been a great album all the way.
BK, I've always been a little afraid of saying what you've just said, but I'm very much in agreement with you.  She was and is the perfect choice to sing his songs, however.  

One thing that has always puzzled me was the choice of "SeeSaw" as the final cut.  Not the song itself, but the version that opens the show of the same name as opposed to the closing (and more optimistic) version.

As it happens, it was one of the discs I almost brought with us when der Brucer and I drove east.  It just barely didn't make the final cut.
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Post by: Jrand73 on January 13, 2004, 11:19:04 AM
I think Ryan Seacrest was one of the hosts of AI rather than a contestant, DRWEL.  He is a close personal friend of Mr Merv Griffin.

WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING

Ethel Merman story coming up....younger and more sensitive HHW'ers beware!


Robert Alton was at 20 Century Fox working on the dances for "There's No Business Like Show Business."  It involved all kinds of Irving Berlin music - and steps.

During one duet, Alton decided that Merman and her partner Dan Dailey would do a bit of a minuet.  He knew Ethel could do it having worked with her on Broadway.

"And this will be like in 'DuBarry Was A Lady',"  Alton said.  "Ethel, do you remember the minuet?"

Ethel never missed a pop of her gum and replied, "Honey, I don't even remember the men I f*&ked!"
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on January 13, 2004, 11:27:07 AM
Ethel Merman was invited to the Jule Stynes for the Passover seder. She didn't know anything about seders, except that Jewish food was not to her liking. So on the way she had the cabbie stop at a deli, where she picked up a ham and cheese sandwich to eat at dinner.
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Post by: bk on January 13, 2004, 11:36:24 AM
Ah, a tingle in the fingers AND the feet.  Now we know.
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Post by: Jrand73 on January 13, 2004, 11:36:57 AM
AND a jingle in Coleman's pocket!
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Post by: TCB on January 13, 2004, 11:38:08 AM
Charles, that was quite a story.  Thank you for sharing it with us.

Favorite Coleman:

Pass Me By
Hey, Look Me Over
Where Am I Going
Something Better Than This

and Almost the entire score of SEESAW (He’s Good for Me,  Poor Everybody Else, Welcome to Holiday Inn, I’m Way Ahead)

I always loved the play TWO FOR THE SEESAW and I thought the musical version, SEESAW, was almost as good.  I was disappointed that the show was not more successful.  I finally decided that by the 70s, the whole married man / single woman affair idea was a little dated.  To think that the lawyer would have to drop the girlfriend or sacrifice his career was not the hot subject matter in 1973 that it had once been.  It is a shame, since it is such a nice show, and seeing Tommy Tune dancing "on point" while wearing clogs, is still one of my favorite theater memories.  Perhaps, if the producers and the creative team had really wanted to be daring, they would have changed the role of Gittel to Gil and thus made the show not only topical again, but perhaps even more powerful.
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Post by: Panni on January 13, 2004, 11:41:27 AM
I just read that Spalding Gray is missing and had been in a deep depression before he disappeared.
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on January 13, 2004, 11:47:36 AM
Had Laine Kazan (fired by Michael Bennett for being too zaftig; replaced by Michele Lee) opened in Seesaw, I wonder if her career would have taken off in a different direction. Or would she have still found herself playing the full-figured mama of Greek Wedding, My Favorite Year, St. Elsewhere, Beaches, etc.?
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Post by: Jrand73 on January 13, 2004, 11:49:06 AM
Shocking, disturbing news DR Panni!
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Post by: Panni on January 13, 2004, 11:51:51 AM
I've been thinking about this for a while now, and I have to say something... Not a criticism, just an observation, but I don't believe in "sharing" stories like the one DR Pogue told about Mary Astor, a once beautiful and beloved star. I do think that people - even celebrities - are entitled to privacy and dignity toward the end of their lives. God only knows what wrecks WE'LL be by then. I would hate to think that someone who came uninvited into my home would years later tell hundreds (and the way the Internet works - thousands) what the encounter was like. Now it's probably true that Miss Astor wouldn't give a flying f-k, but still...
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Post by: Jrand73 on January 13, 2004, 11:57:49 AM
Thanks DRtd!  I am more convinced than ever now that you (and Lanford Wilson) summed it up best in one sentence!
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Post by: Panni on January 13, 2004, 11:59:41 AM
I'm going out now to get a dog license. (Before you go there -- for Abie, the wonderdog.)
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Post by: bk on January 13, 2004, 11:59:48 AM
Um, Mr. Pogue was ASKED to recount the story, so he did.  I see no problem with that whatsoever.  
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Post by: S. Woody White on January 13, 2004, 11:59:58 AM
...I always loved the play TWO FOR THE SEESAW and I thought the musical version, SEESAW, was almost as good.  I was disappointed that the show was not more successful.  I finally decided that by the 70s, the whole married man / single woman affair idea was a little dated.  To think that the lawyer would have to drop the girlfriend or sacrifice his career was not the hot subject matter in 1973 that it had once been.  It is a shame, since it is such a nice show, and seeing Tommy Tune dancing "on point" while wearing clogs, is still one of my favorite theater memories.  Perhaps, if the producers and the creative team had really wanted to be daring, they would have changed the role of Gittel to Gil and thus made the show not only topical again, but perhaps even more powerful.
1973 would have been too early for Gittel to be Gil for most audiences.  Heck, for almost all audiences.  As for the single woman/married man plotline, let's not forget that he's a man from the midwest, where things change m-u-c-h  m-o-r-e  s-l-o-w-l-y.

I recall reading that Dorothy Fields spent a great deal of time working on the show, which was her last, both on the writing and on the promoting of SeeSaw.
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Post by: Jrand73 on January 13, 2004, 12:05:28 PM
Strong words from DRPanni.  I guess I thought it was just an observation of circumstances and a glance at a person I (still) admire.  It is easy to imagine our idols sipping tea on lawn chairs in the Rolling Hills of retirement - reality is sometimes different, and I suppose if the receptionist had not given the guests permission and directions to the room, and tacit permission to visit, the results would have been more troublesome to me.  Dignity and privacy are important for all, but I do not think DR CHARLESPOGUE'S story makes any of us think less of Miss Mary Astor.
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Post by: Panni on January 13, 2004, 12:06:23 PM
Um, Mr. Pogue was ASKED to recount the story, so he did.  I see no problem with that whatsoever.  

As I said, I was not criticizing, but stating a point of view. Mr. Pogue can do whatever he likes and I can have an opinion about it. But to specifically address what you said, bk, Mr. Pogue was the one who initially said that he had a Mary Astor story that he would one day tell.
I have lots of stories, so do you, I'm sure, that we won't repeat because, while amusing, they might be embarrassing or hurtful to someone who is no longer here to defend himself or herself.
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Post by: S. Woody White on January 13, 2004, 12:11:54 PM
I can't agree with DR Panni on the Astor story.  For one thing, we've been sharing all sorts of stories about Ethel all day (well, so far), stories that may or may not be true.  Aren't these stories robbing her of her dignity just as much?

For another, it could have been any aged star from yesteryear that DR Charles told about.  The story would still have been touching.  That it was Astor, with the connecting "things that dreams are made of" quotation, makes it all the more poignant.

If anything, the story would make the basis for a damn good film, with the corollary "be careful what you wish for" as a sub-theme.
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Post by: Panni on January 13, 2004, 12:12:29 PM
Strong words from DRPanni.

Again let me say that I don't think DR Pogue was doing anything horrible in recounting the tale. And of course I don't believe that fans of Mary Astor will suddenly stop being fans of the lady or think less of her because of it. I just happen to have very strong feelings about privacy. Which is more about me than about Mr. Pogue. But as this is a forum in which we are urged to say what we feel - I'm saying what I feel.
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Post by: Jrand73 on January 13, 2004, 12:16:42 PM
 ;D
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Post by: Panni on January 13, 2004, 12:19:24 PM
I can't agree with DR Panni on the Astor story.  For one thing, we've been sharing all sorts of stories about Ethel all day (well, so far), stories that may or may not be true.  Aren't these stories robbing her of her dignity just as much?.

Not in my opinion. The stories about Ethel are funny tales about a balsy woman who didn't give a shit about what people thought of her. They took place in public situations, not in her home as she was in her final years, close to death.
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Post by: Jennifer on January 13, 2004, 12:25:16 PM
Okay you "American Idol" fans---
I have never seen (or had any desire to see) this show, but I've seen so much hype recently for a new series starring "American Idol's Ryan Seacreast" I have a couple of questions.  I know that a woman named Kelly and a brillo pad named Justin won the first season; and a Teddybear named Rueben and a restyled nerd named Clay won the second... so which season was this Ryan in and was he third or further down the list.  What kind of music does he sing?  Is he any good and if he is why do you think he was not one of the winners?

Ryan Seacrest was one of the two co-hosts in season one. And he became the sole host for season two. And he will be the host again next week when season three starts.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: bk on January 13, 2004, 12:27:49 PM
Well, we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.  It IS more about you, I'm afraid.  Just as you can have an opinion on Mr. Pogue's story, so we can have an opinion on your opinion.   Perhaps later I will recount the story of The Randy Vicar and Dirty Spigot.  We'll see what you have to say about THAT one.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: td on January 13, 2004, 12:30:14 PM
Well, I would like to say that ALL of my favorite Cy songs can be heard in the terrific score for ON THE 20TH CENTURY.  Where to begin with that stunning piece of work?  It is indeed the ONE SHOW ALBUM which new friends are garunteed to receive as a gift from me!  I must've bought at least thirty cds of it whenever a new friend came my way.  I've yet to hear any disparging remarks from them about THAT score.

Also related to the TOD, wouldn't Mary Astor have made a terrific Letticia Primrose?
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: td on January 13, 2004, 12:30:58 PM
I'd like to hear the story of THE RANDY VICAR AND THE SCULLERY CREW.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Ben on January 13, 2004, 12:36:24 PM
BK to further answer your question from the other page which I don't think I did fully, I have read the notes from the previous days as well as the posts. I think when I said I read the notes, it sounded like I had just read today's notes but I have indeed read the past notes for the weekend. Now, I must go back and read all the posts and all the notes for the time from November 27 (approixmately) through about January 2nd or 3rd. I read the notes (for the most part) and some of the posts when I was on vacation (both in NY and England) but especially in England when my Internet time was limited, I didn't read all the posts. I must be current and aware of all that is going on around me, even if it has passed so I will return to the past, once a day perhaps, and read what has gone by.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: S. Woody White on January 13, 2004, 12:36:26 PM
Not in my opinion. The stories about Ethel are funny tales about a balsy woman who didn't give a shit about what people thought of her. They took place in public situations, not in her home as she was in her final years, close to death.
Then as what point do we draw the line, between what is acceptable and what counts as trespassing?

I'm quite serious about this being an interesting story for film.  It needn't have Miss Astor as a character, or even be set in Hollywood.  Every community has it's beauties from days past, who have faded and become reclusive.  And every community has it's youths, who pursue the legends ignorant of the present reality.  If I were to write it, I wouldn't use the Hollywood setting at all.  But I would want to use the Maltese Falcon connection, for both the central quotation and the parallel with the older story of pursuing a treasure that doesn't exist.  The question of "trespass" in this case deepens the story.  

(And I have a feeling that if DRs Charles and Panni were to sit down and outline their versions of this tale, as a treatment for a screenplay, we'd come up with two strikingly different films!)
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Panni on January 13, 2004, 12:36:30 PM
It IS more about you, I'm afraid.  Just as you can have an opinion on Mr. Pogue's story, so we can have an opinion on your opinion.   Perhaps later I will recount the story of The Randy Vicar and Dirty Spigot.  We'll see what you have to say about THAT one.

You don't have to be afraid, bk, because I ALREADY said it was more about me, so I won't send people over to hurt you. As for the Randy Vicar and the Dirty Spigot, I bet you don't know he visited Budapest (where he was known as Vicar Randy) - and I have stories that would make your hair curl.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: MBarnum on January 13, 2004, 12:36:35 PM
Jennifer and Ron, have you seen the list of contestants for the Survivor All-Stars that begins in a couple of weeks? Looks like a fun one!
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on January 13, 2004, 12:41:26 PM
I agree with Panni on this one. The Ethel Merman tales are anecdotal.  (I believe she told the ham-and-cheese one herself.) The Mary Astor story - for reasons that Panni expressed - crosses a line.

The manner in which Panni presented her observation, regardless of one's opinions, is honest and in keeping with the spirit of this site. I think it was td who rightly congratulated HHW on its openness, and I'm glad this topic was introduced for discussion.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Jason on January 13, 2004, 12:41:50 PM
I just had my first experience with the infamous Soup Nazi. The soup was great (Mexican chicken chili) and the service was efficient and surprisingly friendly. He even gave us some extra fruit and bread! It didn't come cheap, though...$11 for a cup of soup!

Jose: Are you telling me I should get the Jonathon and Darlene CD? Is it really that worth it? I'll check around Tower and see how much it costs...I haven't even heard a sample of their stuff yet, so I may have to wait...
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: TCB on January 13, 2004, 12:51:11 PM
Well, I would like to say that ALL of my favorite Cy songs can be heard in the terrific score for ON THE 20TH CENTURY.  Where to begin with that stunning piece of work?  It is indeed the ONE SHOW ALBUM which new friends are garunteed to receive as a gift from me!  I must've bought at least thirty cds of it whenever a new friend came my way.  I've yet to hear any disparging remarks from them about THAT score.


Ahh, my dear new friend, td!
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Jennifer on January 13, 2004, 12:53:24 PM
Jennifer and Ron, have you seen the list of contestants for the Survivor All-Stars that begins in a couple of weeks? Looks like a fun one!

Yes I cannot wait. This will be the biggest numbers Survivor has ever had (since it debuts feb 1st right after the superbowl).

I saw the list a couple of months ago:
Alicia, amber, colby, ethan, jenna l, jenna m, jerri, kathy, lex, richard,  rob c, rob m, rudy, rupert, shii-ann, susan, tina and tom.

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor8/index.shtml

There are some people I am thrilled will be there: Richard hatch, rudy, sue hawk, colby, tina, ethan.

And there are some I think are slightly  ridiculous choices: tom, shii-ann, jenna L, alicia.

I am happy my favorite, Colby "hershey bar" will be there.

I'm just wondering if people will be more upset when their favorites get voted off. For instance I would not be a happy camper if Colby got voted off right away.

Who are you cheering for?
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: TCB on January 13, 2004, 01:01:31 PM
1973 would have been too early for Gittel to be Gil for most audiences.  Heck, for almost all audiences.  As for the single woman/married man plotline, let's not forget that he's a man from the midwest, where things change m-u-c-h  m-o-r-e  s-l-o-w-l-y.


I seriously doubt that 1973 would have been too early for New York audiences, which is where the show would have been playing, not Iowa.  This would be almost five years after Boys In The Band opened, and four years after Stonewall.  Granted, Jerry is a Midwestern lawyer, but he is attempting to pass the New York Bar Exam.  I don't know if it would have worked or not, SWW, it was just a thought.  I just know that as it was, it didn't find the audience it should have, in spite of the promotion it received, and the salary cuts that the cast offered to take in order to keep the show running.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Jennifer on January 13, 2004, 01:02:32 PM
I feel like sending out good vibes to the group:

I'm trying to decide which color is the prettiest vibe.


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Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Matt H. on January 13, 2004, 01:09:40 PM
I have to give Mary Astor credit. She sort of shamed the Academy into giving her an Oscar statuette.

In the early days of the supporting actor Oscars, those winners were given miniature statuettes attached to a wooden Oscar plaque (see photo below). Many years later, I know after she retired and probably when she was at the home, Mary told an interviewer, "Before I die, I would dearly love to have a REAL Oscar." After the story ran on some newswire, the Academy did indeed present her with an actual Oscar statuette.

In the pic below, Mary receiving her plaque in 1942 for her supporting work in 1941's THE GREAT LIE. Donald Crisp is next to her winning for HOW GREEN WAS MY VALLEY. Gary Cooper won Best Actor for SERGEANT YORK and Joan Fontaine won as Best Actresss for SUSPICION.


Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: William E. Lurie on January 13, 2004, 01:14:27 PM
Jason---
The various Jonathon and Darlene LPs have been collected on 2 "Best of" CDs.  If you appreciate what Florence Foster Jenkins does to classical music and what Mrs. Miller does to 60s pop, then you should enjoy what the Edwards do to cocktail piano playing and cabaret singing of classic pop.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: William E. Lurie on January 13, 2004, 01:15:39 PM
Jennifer---
I thought the host was some obnoxious Englishman named Simon assisted by former Laker girl Paula Abdul.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Matt H. on January 13, 2004, 01:16:50 PM
No, WEL, Simon Cowell and Paula Abdul (and Randy Jackson) are JUDGES, not hosts.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: MBarnum on January 13, 2004, 01:18:48 PM
DR Jennifer,
My favorites will likely be Ethan, Colby, and Tina...Rudy will be entertaining!
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Matt H. on January 13, 2004, 01:20:49 PM
The ones who won previously start at a disadvantage, I think, because other tribe members who didn't win will be gunning for them. When SURVIVOR players appeared on THE WEAKEST LINK, Richard was the first one voted off, even though he BY FAR answered the most questions correct, because they didn't want to see him win again.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: TCB on January 13, 2004, 01:21:04 PM
Jennifer---
I thought the host was some obnoxious Englishman named Simon assisted by former Laker girl Paula Abdul.

No, Bill, they are two of the judges.

Panni, I am so sorry about the anniversary of your mother's death.  My mother was killed ten years ago, this Friday.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Tomovoz on January 13, 2004, 01:21:25 PM
td: It's OK we don't need to be friends. I have "On the Twentieth Century". How is Nigel?
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Matt H. on January 13, 2004, 01:26:15 PM
The theater where I did TITANIC last fall is considering ON THE 20TH CENTURY for next fall. Keeping my fingers crossed.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Maya on January 13, 2004, 01:27:37 PM
I think Ryan Seacrest was one of the hosts of AI rather than a contestant, DRWEL.  He is a close personal friend of Mr Merv Griffin.

WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING

Ethel Merman story coming up....younger and more sensitive HHW'ers beware!


Robert Alton was at 20 Century Fox working on the dances for "There's No Business Like Show Business."  It involved all kinds of Irving Berlin music - and steps.

During one duet, Alton decided that Merman and her partner Dan Dailey would do a bit of a minuet.  He knew Ethel could do it having worked with her on Broadway.

"And this will be like in 'DuBarry Was A Lady',"  Alton said.  "Ethel, do you remember the minuet?"

Ethel never missed a pop of her gum and replied, "Honey, I don't even remember the men I f*&ked!"


That is priceless...and something tells me that if the Merm were still alive, she would LOVE that we are cracking up over these anecdotes.  

I also love the seder anecdote, Dan!

Here's my contribution, though some DRs may already have heard this one.

Merman was in a show, I forget which.  One of the chorus girls objected to Ethel's frequent cursing, and decided to start a coin jar.   Whoever cursed would have to deposit a quarter.  For a time, Ethel put up with it, but after the chorus girl had asked her for a quarter one time too many, she put $5 in the jar and said to her, "Go f*** yourself."

Re: the Mary Astor story.  I am a relative urchin, as DR Charles humorously put it, but I know who Mary Astor is.  I've seen her and Barrymore in Don Juan and read about the Astor-Kaufman affair in Hollywood Babylon ("ah! desert night, naked under the stars"...the girl had a touch of the poet, did she not?)

I don't have any objection to the story being put up, but it did make me sad to read it.  There are really few things as tragic as the decline of a beautiful woman, especially a once-beautiful screen siren.  
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Panni on January 13, 2004, 01:32:39 PM
Panni, I am so sorry about the anniversary of your mother's death.  My mother was killed ten years ago, this Friday.

My condolences, TCB.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Maya on January 13, 2004, 01:32:40 PM
What the hell...here's another good, more famous story involving Ethel...equally risqué.

Merman and her pal Tallulah Bankhead were in adjoining bathroom stalls.
Tallulah had run out of toilet paper.  She asked if Ethel had any she could spare.  Ethel responded negatively.  Tallulah said, "Well, dahling, do you have two fives for a ten?"

Condolences from me too, TCB!
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Charles Pogue on January 13, 2004, 01:33:33 PM
Sorry, Panni, my story upset you...

The fact is...in spite of all...I still adore Ms. Astor and think nonetheless of her at all.   You'll also notice that in the story, something kept me  from going into the room.  While I was certainly well aware of the reality at this point, I didn't want to experience it first hand.  Still had I gone in, my respect for Miss Astor would not be diminished one iota.  She is still one of my favourite actresses and one of my favourite personalities of the Golden Era.  She had balls and tremedous talent.

But maybe it's because I did years of dinner theatre with aging stars with lots of faults and lots of problems that I just don't put a lot of these people up on pedestals.  I have very few idols in this business, but even those I do have and just those I admire, I embrace them warts and all.  I find their flaws just as fascinating and endearing as the rest of them.  I embrace the whole person.  

The fact is we could have just caught Mary Astor on a bad day.  We could have come on another day, found her all pulled together and as charming as Hell.  And that would have been Mary Astor too.  (Probably wouldn't make as good as story). None of these people are perfect.  I think the problem comes when we try to enshrine them as demi-gods and don't realize that they have good and bad days, good and bad times, good and bad years.  We all age and become less than what we were.  That doesn't diminish what we were. Or what we accomplished. What is sadder I think is to see some star still trying to desperately cling to the illusion of their glory years, their beauty, their image, and becoming just some, sad ghastly caricature of themselves.   If anything my moment of reality with Mary Astor made me love her all the more.  

Again, back to my dinner theatre days...we used to say you got stars either on the way up or the way down.  I almost always got them on the way down...Martha Raye, Don DeFore, Cyd Charisse, James Drury, Shelley Berman, Nancy Kulp, Rosemarie, Yvonne DeCarlo, Bob Denver etc...when they were at the lower ebb than in their heyday.  It made me realize they were just people and no one or nothing to be enskyed.  But by the same token, I almost always respected them and valued my time with them and listened to their stories (no matter how tedious they could sometimes get...they were also glorious stories too) because they had managed to struggle for and achieve something I was also striving for.  They had lessons to learn.  I prided myself that I often worked...more than once...with people who had reputations for being difficult and irascible and I always got along with them and they respected me back.  Because while I treated them with the deference and respect due their achievements and years, I didn't fawn on them or suck up to them and, if they were at times, full of shit, I wasn't afraid to tell them so.  I can and have told stories about all these people...some embarrassing/some inspiring...because that's just how people are made.  I also learned from all of them and came away enriched by my encounter with them.  

One of the great encounters of my life came when Henry Wilcoxon walked into a bookstore where I was working when I first came out here.  Because I recognized him and actually knew something of his career, we became friends in the last couple of years of his life.  One of the things you learn from these people is, even after they reached a certain level of fame, it was never easy.  I value the brief time I had with this man and the stories and experiences he told...not all flattering, not all fun or glamourous.

This weekend Mr. Kimmel and I will go to the memorabilia show at the Beverly Garland Holiday Inn and we will gawk and thrill and, yes, occasionally, shudder aghast at the old stars on display there.  But we go because we love and respect these people who have a past in a business we love and in a business that we understand takes its toll.  The foibles of the business and the people are as much a part of its legend as anything.  We embrace the good with the bad, the inspiring with the sad, the sublime with the ridiculous (and is there anything more ridiculous than Skippy Lowe...who we also love because he is so damned entertaining and out there!)  We share smiles, hear stories, sometimes shake our head and laugh and whisper between us: "What the Hell happened to them?"  

But I don't think it's ever done cruelly or viciously and with malicious intent.  Certainly, my Mary Astor story was not meant this way.  Let's not forget the impetus for the entire story began as pilgrimage to pay homage to someone we admired.  And still do.  We went because we remembered her.  We hadn't forgotten her.   I look at the quirky encounter merely as just reveling in the panorama and the vicissitudes of this business we call show...

Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 13, 2004, 01:44:31 PM
Jennifer and Ron, have you seen the list of contestants for the Survivor All-Stars that begins in a couple of weeks? Looks like a fun one!

Haven't seen it, Mike, but I'm looking forward to it!

GO RUPERT!!!

Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: bk on January 13, 2004, 01:44:39 PM
Bravo.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: MBarnum on January 13, 2004, 01:44:41 PM
Thanks DR Charles, I thought you told the Mary Astor story with respect and it was obvious that you did and still do admire her...now, with that said, I want to hear stories about Nancy Kulp and Yvonne DeCarlo! Love 'em both!
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Jrand73 on January 13, 2004, 01:47:54 PM
 :D  DRCHARLES POGUE.....Nancy Kulp...with a "K"  ;D

Here is Miss Mary Astor as she appeared in Return to Peyton Place.  She was so good.....  She is squaring off with Luciana Paluzzi as the "foreign wife" of her son David (The Fly) Hedison.  Luciana has no idea that Mary sits in the linen closet and listens to the couple make love....  That's a MOVIE!!!
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: bk on January 13, 2004, 01:48:26 PM
Nancy Kulp - Robert Culp/Nancy Kulp.  

After two years I finally got around to listening to The Barry Sisters sing Fiddler on the Roof.  Well, it is deliriously daffy, and contains one of the most unintentionally hilarious and awful tracks in the history of recording - Far From the Home I Love, done big-band uptempo with bongos.  It doesn't get better than that, folks.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Charles Pogue on January 13, 2004, 01:55:38 PM
Regards whether the anecdotes about Mermo are true or not,  my theory as always been, it doesn't matter whether a story is true or not, only how well it's told.

Case in point, Maya's story about the swear box, I've heard about Loretta Young, a devout Catholic, who always put up a swear-box on her sets and it was Tracy who plunked it several fivers or tens and said, "Go fuck yourself, Loretta."  

But it's a good story whoever it's about.  It's the raconteurism that counts.  Not the true.  All good stories are embellished.  I believe in the adage from THE MAN WHO SHOT LIBERTY VALANCE, "When the legend become truth, print the legend."

Great pic of Mary Astor.  Mary in Barrymore's Don Juan...for which I have an original programme...is perhaps one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen.

It's probably true that Panni and I would come up with very different stories elaborating my encounter at the old movie folks home into a film.  She'd come up with something touching and sensitive, whereas I'd end up with a bitter black comedy.

But while I was recounting the tale, I did think of how interesting it would be if some enterprising soul did a book or documentary about all those people living out there.  What fabulous stories they all must have and how wonderful it would to have them archived.  And from so many different points of views...actors, writers, technicians...It would have great historical importance.  Bruce?  What say?

Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Jrand73 on January 13, 2004, 01:59:29 PM
Sunset Boulevard Acres.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: TCB on January 13, 2004, 02:02:43 PM
Thanks DR Charles, I thought you told the Mary Astor story with respect and it was obvious that you did and still do admire her...now, with that said, I want to hear stories about Nancy Kulp and Yvonne DeCarlo! Love 'em both!

To Hell with Nancy and Yvonne, I want to hear everything there is to hear about one of my favorites -- James Drury.

To be serious for just a moment, thank you, Mr Pogue, for a very moving post.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: MBarnum on January 13, 2004, 02:08:03 PM
James Drury's aunt used to live her in Salem until she passed away, and James used to visit quite often. My buddy Ron met him when he came to the Salem Hospital (where Ron works) to visit his aunt there.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: TCB on January 13, 2004, 02:08:03 PM
But while I was recounting the tale, I did think of how interesting it would be if some enterprising soul did a book or documentary about all those people living out there.  What fabulous stories they all must have and how wonderful it would to have them archived.  And from so many different points of views...actors, writers, technicians...It would have great historical importance.  Bruce?  What say?


Actually, when you were recounting the story, it reminded me of portions of The Biograph Girl.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Charles Pogue on January 13, 2004, 02:11:33 PM
I don't think Simon Cowell is nasty at all.  I think he just doesn't coddle these kids and tells it like it is.  He's judging people who want a professional career by professional standards.  He's not there to puff up their delicate, fragile egos.  He's there to dispense his honest professional opinion which he does with blunt matter-of-factness and no mincing of words.  It's refreshing...particularly when you see Paula always hedging to nice when you know what she really thinks.  I've notice that even Randy's getting more blunt these days, taking a page from Simon's book.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Maya on January 13, 2004, 02:12:08 PM
Regards whether the anecdotes about Mermo are true or not,  my theory as always been, it doesn't matter whether a story is true or not, only how well it's told.

Case in point, Maya's story about the swear box, I've heard about Loretta Young, a devout Catholic, who always put up a swear-box on her sets and it was Tracy who plunked it several fivers or tens and said, "Go fuck yourself, Loretta."  

But it's a good story whoever it's about.  It's the raconteurism that counts.  Not the true.  All good stories are embellished.  I believe in the adage from THE MAN WHO SHOT LIBERTY VALANCE, "When the legend become truth, print the legend."

Great pic of Mary Astor.  Mary in Barrymore's Don Juan...for which I have an original programme...is perhaps one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen.


I hope I'm a decent raconteuse!  It's easier when you are writing something than when you are telling it to someone...I wish there was a delete button in everyday conversation.

Mary was ravishingly lovely in Don Juan, definitely!

Did you ever hear the story Joan Crawford told?  Loretta Young supposedly sat on one of Joan's chairs at one of her parties, and left the sign of the cross on it!

Note: No offense to any Christians here...it's just that people often thought of Loretta Young as a tad sanctimonious.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: MBarnum on January 13, 2004, 02:12:34 PM
I think there is a very good article about the Biograph girl in the current issue of CLASSIC IMAGES...or is it the Pathe' girl....or another studio...anyway, it was very sad, but quite interesting.

I myself love to hear stories about actors and actresses of the past...good or bad...and that is one of the reasons that I started interviewing old time performers...I love hearing about their lives, their work, their family and friends, the people they worked with, etc.  It all fascinates me....and if I were rich and didn't have to work I would probably be down at the Motion Picture Home doing volunteer work if I could! What a fascinating place it must be.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: MBarnum on January 13, 2004, 02:16:33 PM
And by the way, even though I may not agree with Panni on this particular topic, I do certainly respect her opinion. And I do always enjoy Panni's posts very much!
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Matt H. on January 13, 2004, 02:18:43 PM
DR MBarnum, are you starting to feel a god-like tingle in your toes? The gods of Valhalla are calling you . . . .

Your cloud is ready . . . .
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Robin on January 13, 2004, 02:21:11 PM
Case in point, Maya's story about the swear box, I've heard about Loretta Young, a devout Catholic, who always put up a swear-box on her sets and it was Tracy who plunked it several fivers or tens and said, "Go fuck yourself, Loretta."

When I heard the story, it was Miss Young and Mr. Robert Mitchum.  

But who knows?  It may have happened more than once.  
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: MBarnum on January 13, 2004, 02:21:55 PM
DR MBarnum, are you starting to feel a god-like tingle in your toes? The gods of Valhalla are calling you . . . .

Your cloud is ready . . . .

I was wondering what that sensation was!
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: TCB on January 13, 2004, 02:25:38 PM
I don't think Simon Cowell is nasty at all.  I think he just doesn't coddle these kids and tells it like it is.  He's judging people who want a professional career by professional standards.  He's not there to puff up their delicate, fragile egos.  He's there to dispense his honest professional opinion which he does with blunt matter-of-factness and no mincing of words.  It's refreshing...particularly when you see Paula always hedging to nice when you know what she really thinks.  I've notice that even Randy's getting more blunt these days, taking a page from Simon's book.

I don't watch American Idol, but it is hard to avoid seeing and hearing Mr. Cowell and his comments.  I don't think he is either nasty, nor blunt.  I just think he knows what to say to make himself controversial.  His judging technique has earned him as many cover stories and photo ops as any of the top four finishers without even having to sing a note.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Jrand73 on January 13, 2004, 02:25:58 PM
DR TCB - On the Hallmark Channel you can see two episodes of THE VIRGINIAN each Saturday!
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: TCB on January 13, 2004, 02:30:31 PM
DR TCB - On the Hallmark Channel you can see two episodes of THE VIRGINIAN each Saturday!

Thank you, Jrand, I will watch for it.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Jay on January 13, 2004, 02:32:11 PM
Dear Readers Panni and TCB:  May your (respective) mothers' memory be a blessing to you both.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Charles Pogue on January 13, 2004, 02:32:22 PM
Maya, Loretta was thought a tad sanctimonious by most...particularly by those who were in on the well-known secret that the daughter she "adopted" was actually the daughter she had had by Clark Gable when they had an affair on the set of CALL OF THE WILD. I remember a story told by William Wellman, the director of the picture (can't remember where I read it though), well aware of the romance between Young and Gable. He said something to the effect:  "After that picture she went on a long rest and when she came back, she had adopted a kid with the biggest ears you'd ever seen."

This is not a tale told out of school.  I believe the daughter has written her own book and, if you've seen pictures of her, she can see both her mother and her father's resemblance. I know people who worked with Loretta, by the by, and said she was very lovely and nice.

Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Charles Pogue on January 13, 2004, 02:34:37 PM
Robin, I also just ran across the Mitchum/Young/swearbox story, told slightly differently in one of Jim Bacon's books, looking for the Wellman quote.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Jason on January 13, 2004, 02:38:33 PM
I have a fun second-hand story about Ms. Carol Channing...

During the '94 tour of DOLLY, apparently Ms. Channing had difficulty controlling her aging bladder.  Each night when she was lifted up on the shoulders of two of the dancing waiters, she apparently peed, not only bleaching out a huge spot on the back of her red velvet gown, but also leaving a damp sensation on the shoulders of her boys. One of those boys apparently complained to stage management, and when the SM spoke to Ms. Channing about possibly wearing some sort of bladder control device, Ms. Channing had the young complaintant removed from the show! Yes, she pissed on him and then had him fired for complaining about it! Can you imagine??
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Jennifer on January 13, 2004, 02:39:17 PM
Jennifer---
I thought the host was some obnoxious Englishman named Simon assisted by former Laker girl Paula Abdul.

I love Simon Cowell :)

Simon, Paula, and Randy are the 3 judges (as someone else said).

I really love American Idol. And the good part (which used to drive me crazy) is that I cannot vote.  But really that is a good thing. Cause now I don't have to spend an hour or two trying to get through busy phone lines (i feel like a teeny bopper :) )
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Jay on January 13, 2004, 02:39:21 PM
Speaking of faded beauties....

I was made aware of this upcoming production of Follies at the Irvine Barclay Theatre earlier today and have purchased tickets.  Not sure who is playing what parts.  I'm guessing that John Raitt would be Ben, Betty Garrett would be Phyllis, Teri Ralston would be Sally and Julie Wilson would be Carlotta.  This production could be interesting and well done.  Or it could be a complete trainwreck.  In any event, it will be fun to see some of these folks live on stage in this show.

***********************************************

Stephen Sondheim's "Follies"
Presented by the California Conservatory of the Arts

Thursday, January 29th, 2004 -
Saturday, January 31st, 2004

Follies has long been considered Stephen Sondheim's masterpiece, and this staged concert musical stars some of the most celebrated Broadway veterans in musical theatre history, including John Raitt, Harvey Evans, Betty Garrett, Stephanie Zimbalist, Kurt Peterson, Teri Ralston, Jonelle Allen, Gloria Allen, and Julie Wilson--along with a cast of thirty talented young people fron the California Conservatory of the Arts, Orange County's most comprehensive training ground for young performers and artists from throughout Southern California. This fully staged and costumed production is directed by award-winning Broadway actress Teri Ralston. Follies pays tribute to the women who became the Ziegfeld Follies singers and dancers, recreating the theatrical milieu of these magnificently costumed vaudeville performers who made up the "follies" shows between the two world wars. The story centers around two couples, Phyllis and Ben, and Sally and Buddy (and the ghosts of their former selves). As they reunite at the old majestic, yet crumbling, Weismann Theatre, they reflect on their lives and reminisce about their legendary past.

Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Matt H. on January 13, 2004, 02:43:46 PM
Betty Garrett played Hattie in the NYC  revival a few years ago, and I suspect that's all she could manage now. I think Phyllis would be totally beyond her ability.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Jennifer on January 13, 2004, 02:50:26 PM

DR MBarnum wrote:
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DR Jennifer,
My favorites will likely be Ethan, Colby, and Tina...Rudy will be entertaining!

Well I don't want Tina or Ethan to win.  

And like I said I am in love with Colby. His loss was the only time that I was truly devastated at the outcome.

The ones who won previously start at a disadvantage, I think, because other tribe members who didn't win will be gunning for them. When SURVIVOR players appeared on THE WEAKEST LINK, Richard was the first one voted off, even though he BY FAR answered the most questions correct, because they didn't want to see him win again.

I agree. I think the winners will be at a disadvantage. But I am so curious to see how Richard Hatch will do (since he is IMO a brilliant Survivor player).

It's hard to tell though about alliances. I'll bet colby and tina will still work together if they are given the chance.

I'm not sure how strong players like Colby will do.

It should be interesting.

Btw, good vibes to DRs Panni and TCB.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Jennifer on January 13, 2004, 02:56:33 PM
I want to see Follies.

I don't think Simon Cowell is too harsh these days. I think in season one he did tend to go overboard a bit.

I agree though, that he wants to be critical because it's what he's known for.  IMO, HE IS a big part of why the show is a huge success.

Oh I almost forgot.  DR Laura II, what did you think of Average Joe II?  I actually cannot wait for the hunks to arrives.  Most of the guys are not my cup of tea. Although I liked the artist guy. Sort of sweet without being totally awful.  I also thought the contractor (who she went on a date with) was much different than what I expected. I think he is okay (not too whiney, and more confident than the others). I do not like David (the long haired guy who she went on the lava date with).
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Charles Pogue on January 13, 2004, 02:58:50 PM
Jason,

I too have bathroom story about Ms. Channing which I will not tell here for three reasons:

1) It might prove too offensive for some.

2) Despite what Panni thinks, I do have certain boundaries of discretion.

3) And, lastly, it simply requires an audible impression of Ms. Channing's distinctive voice to pay it off.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Maya on January 13, 2004, 02:59:00 PM
Charles--I've seen a picture of Clark's and Loretta's lovechild.  The resemblance is unmistakeable!

I have a fun second-hand story about Ms. Carol Channing...

During the '94 tour of DOLLY, apparently Ms. Channing had difficulty controlling her aging bladder.  Each night when she was lifted up on the shoulders of two of the dancing waiters, she apparently peed, not only bleaching out a huge spot on the back of her red velvet gown, but also leaving a damp sensation on the shoulders of her boys. One of those boys apparently complained to stage management, and when the SM spoke to Ms. Channing about possibly wearing some sort of bladder control device, Ms. Channing had the young complaintant removed from the show! Yes, she pissed on him and then had him fired for complaining about it! Can you imagine??

Oh, wow!  LMAO!  I hope this wasn't a repeated incident!

Speaking of faded beauties....

I was made aware of this upcoming production of Follies at the Irvine Barclay Theatre earlier today and have purchased tickets.  Not sure who is playing what parts.  I'm guessing that John Raitt would be Ben, Betty Garrett would be Phyllis, Teri Ralston would be Sally and Julie Wilson would be Carlotta.  This production could be interesting and well done.  Or it could be a complete trainwreck.  In any event, it will be fun to see some of these folks live on stage in this show.

***********************************************

Stephen Sondheim's "Follies"
Presented by the California Conservatory of the Arts

Thursday, January 29th, 2004 -
Saturday, January 31st, 2004

Follies has long been considered Stephen Sondheim's masterpiece, and this staged concert musical stars some of the most celebrated Broadway veterans in musical theatre history, including John Raitt, Harvey Evans, Betty Garrett, Stephanie Zimbalist, Kurt Peterson, Teri Ralston, Jonelle Allen, Gloria Allen, and Julie Wilson--along with a cast of thirty talented young people fron the California Conservatory of the Arts, Orange County's most comprehensive training ground for young performers and artists from throughout Southern California. This fully staged and costumed production is directed by award-winning Broadway actress Teri Ralston. Follies pays tribute to the women who became the Ziegfeld Follies singers and dancers, recreating the theatrical milieu of these magnificently costumed vaudeville performers who made up the "follies" shows between the two world wars. The story centers around two couples, Phyllis and Ben, and Sally and Buddy (and the ghosts of their former selves). As they reunite at the old majestic, yet crumbling, Weismann Theatre, they reflect on their lives and reminisce about their legendary past.



OHMIGOD!!!  I wish I lived in California! *cries*

Julie Wilson???  John Raitt???   I have to agree with Matt H. though--Betty Garrett was a good Hattie, but there's really not much of a chance for Phyllis.  Even though it's probably Sally that's the more vocally demanding role.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Maya on January 13, 2004, 02:59:51 PM
Charles--can you PM the story to those of us who want to hear it??  My curiosity has been whetted, no pun intended.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Matt H. on January 13, 2004, 03:00:05 PM
Well, I'll still be watching FRIENDS and will be reading about SURVIVOR. Once the three tribes merge into one, I may then start recording the last few episodes. I would be fine with anyone winning except Jerri, the most irritating and loathsome player ever to me.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: TCB on January 13, 2004, 03:01:44 PM
Speaking of faded beauties....

I was made aware of this upcoming production of Follies at the Irvine Barclay Theatre earlier today and have purchased tickets.  Not sure who is playing what parts.  I'm guessing that John Raitt would be Ben, Betty Garrett would be Phyllis, Teri Ralston would be Sally and Julie Wilson would be Carlotta.  This production could be interesting and well done.  Or it could be a complete trainwreck.  In any event, it will be fun to see some of these folks live on stage in this show.



And what the Hell would Stephanie Zimbalist play?
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Maya on January 13, 2004, 03:02:32 PM
TCB--I imagine they cast her as Phyllis.  :(
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Matt H. on January 13, 2004, 03:05:04 PM
  I have to agree with Matt H. though--Betty Garrett was a good Hattie, but there's really not much of a chance for Phyllis.  Even though it's probably Sally that's the more vocally demanding role.

I wasn't thinking of the vocal requirements as much as the physical ones. Phyllis does a pretty acrobatic dance in "The Story of Lucy and Jessie" with the chorus boys that at Miss Garrett's age I think would be very problematic. Plus, she's just not right for the sophisticated older Phyllis.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Jay on January 13, 2004, 03:06:28 PM
As I said, I was simply guessing at who would play what.  Who knows, perhaps as rehearsals progress, there may need to be some last minute replacement(s) due to "illness."  You can trust, however, that I will file a full report after seeing the show.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Maya on January 13, 2004, 03:06:49 PM
Good points!  

Damn it, why couldn't they get Lauren Bacall??  Who is probably about as old as Betty Garrett, but she's one of my dream Phyllises.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Jay on January 13, 2004, 03:08:38 PM
In one place the flyer says "fully staged," and in another it says "staged concert."  If the latter is the case, choreographic demands may be minimal.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Charles Pogue on January 13, 2004, 03:16:01 PM
Alas, Maya, as I said, it's a story one can only TELL, it doesn't work written...Besides, you're far too young for such an indelicate story.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: bk on January 13, 2004, 03:21:12 PM
I can tell you who's playing what because it seems fairly obvious to me: Mr. Harvey Evans - Buddy (he's played this before), Mr. Kurt Peterson - Ben (I believe he and Mr. Evans were the young versions of these characters on B'way), Miss Zimbalist would be Phyllis and Miss Ralston would be Sally.  Mr. Raitt is probably singing Beautiful Girls and/or playing Dimitri Weissman.  Julie Wilson will probably play Carlotta (TOO OLD - this part is supposed to be a woman barely fifty, as was Yvonne de Carlo in the original) and Miss Garrett will reprise her Hattie.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: bk on January 13, 2004, 03:21:33 PM
Pogue - good idea, I'm there.  
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: td on January 13, 2004, 03:22:23 PM
Ahh, my dear new friend, td!

Flattery, as you know TCB, will get you . . .
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: S. Woody White on January 13, 2004, 03:23:51 PM
...upcoming production of Follies at the Irvine Barclay Theatre...fully staged and costumed production is directed by award-winning Broadway actress Teri Ralston...
Since Ralston is directing, I doubt she'll be in the show as well.  It's a complex script, and not one I'd want to see anyone tackle while wearing two hats.

That said, Ms. Ralston is wonderful to see on stage (she was in Triumph of Love at the International City Theater, Long Beach) and thoroughly charming off stage as well.  I want full reports on the showm DR Jay!
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Matt H. on January 13, 2004, 03:32:48 PM
The director who staged TITANIC last fall told me FOLLIES has always been a dream show of his, but its cast and costume demands would be daunting for that theater to handle, I'm sure.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Matt H. on January 13, 2004, 03:35:06 PM
Speaking of the CD of ON THE TWENTIETH CENTURY, has there ever been a more beautiful LP cover than that show's? The CD package looks cheesy compared to that classy, deco foil cover from the original LP.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Panni on January 13, 2004, 03:44:59 PM
It's probably true that Panni and I would come up with very different stories elaborating my encounter at the old movie folks home into a film.  She'd come up with something touching and sensitive, whereas I'd end up with a bitter black comedy.
Hey, Mr. Pogue, it's okay if the network execs put me in a certain "sensitive" box, but I didn't think YOU would! Actually, I have a very black comedy type sensibility. And, believe it or not, I've written my share of that kind of material (in Canada, primarily). For example, there was a very hard-hitting Canadian Broadcasting Corporation docudrama anthology series called FOR THE RECORD for which, I believe, I wrote the only comedy. And it was blacker than coal. One of the climactic moments had the sweet mother of our hero, who all her life had been trying to hit it big in Bingo, finally - FINALLY - in a very tense scene, winning the thousand dollar jackpot - and two seconds later dropping dead from just too much darn happiness. Sensitive? I think not. I much prefer SUNSET BOULEVARD to  some kind of saccharine homage to the days of yore.
And I appreciate your long and thoughtful reply to my objections to the Mary Astor story. But let me just say that nowhere do I suggest that you do not love and respect these people. I just personally like to keep some things private. That's me. You're you. This does not make you any less of a stellar human being. Just please don't come and visit me when I'm wearing a diaper and drooling into my residuals in the Old Writers' Home. Or if you do - and I'll be glad to see you, even though I'll probably call you Atilla -  just keep whatever you see to yourself.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Panni on January 13, 2004, 03:53:29 PM
Dear Readers Panni and TCB:  May your (respective) mothers' memory be a blessing to you both.

Thank you, DR Jay.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Jrand73 on January 13, 2004, 04:03:38 PM
Judy Lewis' book is called "Uncommon Knowledge" and is very good.  It was written when Miss Loretta Young was still living and caused a rift between the two of them.  Lewis is very sympathetic to her mother and her adoptive father, Tom Lewis.  She was interviewed by Larry King about the book at least once.  And Judy said that she and her mother did mend their relationship before Loretta passed away.  It's a good book.

A friend of a friend told him that once in the early 1960's he was walking in a posh neighborhood.  As he approached a driveway he heard a powerful car coming, so he stopped to wait.  A black Cadillac tried to make its way between the brick posts and slammed into one of them even though there was plenty of clearance on either side.  My friend's friend was examining the bumper of the Caddy when the driver joined him.  It was Miss Loretta Young.  They studied it together for a few moments, then Miss Young turned to him and said, "I never could drive."  She got back into the car and roared off.  
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: bk on January 13, 2004, 04:21:36 PM
People can come visit me in the home and tell whatever damn stories they like.  We'll stay all night and we'll sing 'em all.  

Now, we are headin' towards 20,000 posts in the next day or so - if this had been last week we'd have made it in a trice - but this is this week and people aren't in their posting frenzy mode, despite the same number of people perusing the board.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Danise on January 13, 2004, 04:33:57 PM
Good evening all!  I've seen a lot that I would like to comment on so please bear with me.  This might take a post or two.

[move=up,scroll,6,transparent,100%]Congrats to Laura II!  Way to go![/move]

I would like to say that I have heard more about opinions in the last 3 days then I have in the past year.  You have NO idea.  Must be something in the air or the water.

TCB said:
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Panni, I am so sorry about the anniversary of your mother's death. My mother was killed ten years ago, this Friday.


My most sincere condolences to both of you.  Time does NOT heal all wounds.


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Quote from: td on Yesterday at 11:36:32pm
Personal question time:

I know that a while ago, BK tried out an online dating service.
Well, over the weekend, I too, "joined" a couple of online "personals," (which is dating, without dinner).
So, have any other DRs tried the internet for meeting, greeting, dating and possibly mating? ? ?
Would any DRs try online ads or dating services?
Share your experiences.


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Matt H said:
Yes, my pic and info are still at one or two places, the places where you can have your info placed there for free but if you want to contact someone you see in their listings, it costs. The only communications I had were from people who were just too far away from me; I knew it wouldn't work out.

I also have my profile and pics at gay.com but most people only check them out if you go sit in one of the chat rooms, and then their curiosity causes them to pull down your profile and read it. I've been contacted some and had a few dates, but they didn't turn into anything lasting or meaningful.


Please be careful, both of you.  I know it's possible to meet someone that way but it's also very dangerous.  I won't post the whole thing here but if you go over to BBW on the Off topic board you will see my post about the 2 who were missing for 20 days before they were important enough make the news.

I also loved the rainbow picture.  I remember looking for at a rainbow once and wishing I could find the pot of gold at the end of it.  I swear, I looked down and a $20.00 bill was laying about a foot from where I was standing.  It was one of the most magic things that has ever happen to me.

Tomovoz said:
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I have heard that Michael Ball does it well - and often!
 If only we could get him to do it here in the States!  Sigh! :D

I think I'm almost caught up.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: bk on January 13, 2004, 04:35:26 PM
Are we on a dinner break?  They're dropping like flies, and the people who are still here are posting like flies - dead flies.  Remember, dead flies can't post.  That sounds like a noir title, doesn't it.  Let's get some postin' goin' on, shall we?  Or maybe we should ALL just take a fershluganah dinner break and have one GIANT lull.  Yes, that's the ticket - one giant LULL.  
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Danise on January 13, 2004, 04:36:11 PM
Flattery, as you know TCB, will get you . . .

A pair of tickets to a show?  Eggs and bacon?  Pancakes?  A winning lotto ticket?

The mind boggles......
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 13, 2004, 04:37:37 PM
Good evening!

-What a lovely number of posts!  Great stories!  Great anecdotes!  Great humor!  Great discourse!  And still very civilized and respectful!

Well, I think I'm ready for NYC.  I did my laundry - FIVE loads! - and had a wonderful time catching up with Garnett, my laundromat lady.  Got my hair cut - and went to a new barber - and, will most likely go back again - great cut!  Made a stop at Old Navy to pick up a cheap pair of jeans - while folding my laundry I noticed that one pair I had planned to bring up was starting to show it's wear in one too many places.   :o  Then I headed back to the apartment, put everything away, re-dressed my bed, and actually packed my big ole duffel for the trip.  Now, all I have to do is not keep looking in my dresser and closet for other clothes to pack - I will NOT overpack.  Luckily(?), since the weather is supposed to be cold - under 30 for most of the time we'll be up there - "warmth" is taking precedence over "style". ;-)

So, now I'm sitting here, watching TV (news and now cooking programs), and my friend, Mark, will be coming by in a little bit so that we can grab a bite to eat.  -I still have yet to re-stock my fridge since returning last Thursday.  -But come next Monday - Watch Out!  *And I have a pretty good feeling that there will be plenty of cookie baking going on.

-Oh, and I haven't been meaning to "ignore" any of the DRs who reside in the NY environs in regards to my trip up this week.  I'm purposely keeping the days sort of free form for me and Steve since each night at 8:00 - and 2:00 on Saturday, we'll know where we'll be.  We also both want to do some really touristy things this time round - since I usually end up taking him to some of the more "off the beaten path things".  However, I do have the Museum of New York at the top of the "possibilities" list.  And it's been ages since I've been to the Metropolitan Museum - and Steve's never been - this will be only his third trip up to NYC - which coincides with how many times we've been up to NYC together.

Well, I'm babbling, and I should be getting ready for dinner...  Let's see if there are five more pages of posts to catch up on again when I get back!
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Charles Pogue on January 13, 2004, 04:45:31 PM
Panni, I have a deal with the lovely wife that goes: If I get to diapers and drooling, please shoot me!"  It works both ways.  Julieanne's is even stricter than mine. She'll say things like:  "If you ever see me wearing helmet hair, shoot me."
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Jrand73 on January 13, 2004, 04:46:02 PM
DR JOSE I am sure you will enjoy the museum!   ;D

WOW!  When they made a Deanna Durbin movie, they gave you EVERYTHING.  Fifteen minutes ago everyone was dancing to the Hawaiian War Chant, and now she's singing "Ave Maria."   :D
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 13, 2004, 04:47:28 PM
OH, and DR JRand - I was thinking of the cover for the first album. ;-)
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Danise on January 13, 2004, 04:52:57 PM
I meant to ask--I saw a commercial today for TMM at the Ruth Eckard Hall in St. Pete.  Is Juliana part of that group?  If so I must try to go see it.  

I won't go at night--Wild horses wouldn't drag me over that bridge to St. Pete alone at night but if there is a matinee, I might try to give it a go.  
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Laura II on January 13, 2004, 04:57:18 PM
First off, thank you JRand, Jenn, Maya, and Danise!!!

TCB and Panni, you are both in my thoughts during these tough days.

Welcome to DR goldes!

Cy Coleman songs (I don't know that many.): "On the Other Side of the Tracks"  and "Real Live Girl"

Uncle Woody, I love dachshunds! My next-door neighbors have a dachshund named Jack, and he is my favorite doggie ever!

Em, glad you didn't get hurt during the coffee incident! Yay for having stories to tell!

"Average Joe: Hawaii"
Jenn, I don't like David either! I kinda feel bad for him, though. I was not surprised at all that she got rid of Sam--he barely talked to her, too many awkward silences, and then he said that she was missing out? You have to be able to communicate! Ugh. Anyway, these guys are definitely not my type either, but I thought the thing with Tony (is that the artist guy's name?) was sweet. :)


Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Jed on January 13, 2004, 05:01:19 PM
Here's a very abbreviated list of some favorite Coleman songs:  Pink Taffeta Sample, Size 10; Funny; With Every Breath I Take
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Laura II on January 13, 2004, 05:04:12 PM
Danise, if the TMM commercial was for the tour, then yes, Juliana is a part of it!
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Jrand73 on January 13, 2004, 05:06:13 PM
DRJOSE - the only illustration I could find of the first CD was very DARK, so I went with Volume 2.

Have a great trip!!!  Enjoy the shows!  I know you will!!!  ;D
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Laura II on January 13, 2004, 05:26:29 PM
Oh. my. gosh. Wow. I just got in touch with an old friend from middle school. She's engaged now. They're waiting until they're 21 to get married. Mal and Mikers are getting married after college. (He hasn't formally proposed yet. He kind of asked for my help with ideas and such.) All I can say is wow. I was talking to Drew about this, and an old classmate of ours just proposed to his girlfriend, and they're getting married this summer. It's amazing that some of our friends are about to take such a huge step in their lives while the rest of us don't even have significant others.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: bk on January 13, 2004, 05:31:53 PM
ANOTHER LULL?  What is this, lull-day?  I'm nauseous right now (not because of the lull).
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Danise on January 13, 2004, 05:48:27 PM
Danise, if the TMM commercial was for the tour, then yes, Juliana is a part of it!

Weeelll then....  Guess I'm going to have to see if I can make it!


I only have the 2 dogs but Bear is a small pony.  To think he was a little 5 lb puppy when I first brought him home.  The runt.

It used to be a case of my letting him sleep with me, now I think he lets me sleep with him!  I fight for covers and he growls at me if I disturb him.  I must have been moving around to much the other night  because he HIT me with his paw!  I want to point out up front that I do NOT snore.  That I'm aware of.  Despite what my Mom (who has a hard time hearing the TV) says.  There's a lot of traffic on our street. I think she gets confused.  And if I did I'm sure it would be a sinus thing.

Brandi likes the floor or outside (in the spring/summer).  Thank God!

Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: bk on January 13, 2004, 05:51:04 PM
Just put up a new column at The DVD Place - check it out - it's all about other region DVDs and players.  Be sure to post comments and/or questions.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Robin on January 13, 2004, 05:55:27 PM
OK, I feel that I must, simply must reply to the question of "internet dating", with my personal success story in that arena.  

I'd been alone for far, far too long, and the fact of the matter was that I was getting a bit restless.  And, of course, rather randy if you know what I mean and I think you do.  So I gave on-line dating a try.  I was candidly honest 'bout myself.  I was not only honest about what I saw as my good qualities, but also about my faults.   And whaddaya know, it worked.  We've been deleriously happy together now for the last six years.  

After quite a few tries, anyway.  There are some profoundly dysfunctional people out there, and I think I met a good percentage of them on my quest for Mr. Right.

So, by all means...try it.  Use your common sense.  But be careful.  I cannot stress that enough.  No, sirree....cannot stress that enough.  
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Robin on January 13, 2004, 05:57:27 PM
Just put up a new column at The DVD Place - check it out - it's all about other region DVDs and players.  Be sure to post comments and/or questions.

I must check that out.  I've been (rather lethargically, I admit) investigating getting a region-free player...
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: S. Woody White on January 13, 2004, 06:04:57 PM
I see that Mr. Blackwell has a new list for the new year. (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040113/ap_on_en_ot/people_blackwell_2)  I met him once.  He didn't say a thing about my clothes.  I think he was jealous.

 8)
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Danise on January 13, 2004, 06:14:45 PM
Just put up a new column at The DVD Place - check it out - it's all about other region DVDs and players.  Be sure to post comments and/or questions.

Been there.  Did that.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Michael on January 13, 2004, 06:22:16 PM
Here's my contribution, though some DRs may already have heard this one.

Merman was in a show, I forget which.  One of the chorus girls objected to Ethel's frequent cursing, and decided to start a coin jar.  Whoever cursed would have to deposit a quarter.  For a time, Ethel put up with it, but after the chorus girl had asked her for a quarter one time too many, she put $5 in the jar and said to her, "Go f*** yourself."


The version of this story I heard was she was visiting Mary Martin back stage at Peter Pan. And it was Mary who had a swear jar.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Danise on January 13, 2004, 06:24:32 PM
I hear it or something like it but it's still funny.  

Goodnight all!  
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Michael on January 13, 2004, 06:25:51 PM
Now this story was told to me by David Dillon the playwright of "Party".

He was working on show were Ethel Merman and Mary Martin were performers. Mary went on first to be followed by Ethel. Ethel was off-stage watching her performer. Next to her was a chorus boy also watching. After Mary's first number the chorus boy turned to Ethel and said, "Miss Merman is Miss Martin wonderful?" Ethel turned to the chorus boy and said. "She's a dy**e, you know!"
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Jason on January 13, 2004, 06:26:57 PM
Listening to KISS OF THE SPIDERWOMAN, which I haven't listened to in AGES! I forgot how good this show can be. Such a verile sound in the men's ensemble numbers. How in the world did they get so many chorus boys to sound so butch? ;) Did Brent Carver win the Tony for Molina? I think he did...I can't remember.

Jose: They're predicting up to six inches of snow between Weds. night and Thurs. morning, so be sure to pack warm and waterproof.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 13, 2004, 06:30:02 PM
Back from dinner... -Pizza!  YUM!  So where are my five more pages of posts?!?!?

;)

As for my internet dating experiences... I've met some amazingly nice people, and I've met some amazingly "funny" people - as is "funny-strange".  Thankfully, no harm done.  I'm a naturally "question-y" person, so I tend to pre-screen people rather well before meeting them in person.  -And having worked with some of the characters I've crossed paths with in the "biz", I know the right questions to ask.  ;)I have some very good friends whom I've met via the net, and I have some very good "internet only" friends whom I may or may not meet in person someday.  With my strange hours, the internet has become somewhat of a social outlet for me - and a very cheap way to chat with my friends in other times zones.  -Oh, and I've some very nice dates too!

And, of course, I've met some wonderful people from here on HHW!  And hope to meet many more!

OK - Back to packing and prepping...
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Panni on January 13, 2004, 06:38:31 PM
Panni, I have a deal with the lovely wife that goes: If I get to diapers and drooling, please shoot me!"  
My ex-husband, who was from Newfoundland and knew of such things, told me that if he ever got that way I should put him on an iceberg and simply let him float away.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 13, 2004, 06:49:59 PM
DR Jason - SNOW?!?!?! REALLY?!?!?  When did that pop up in the forecast?  -Actually, I think it's kind of cool.  I like NYC in the snow.  Guess, I'll browse over to weather.com...
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Jason on January 13, 2004, 06:57:20 PM
According to AOL, we should have 4-6 inches of snow on Thurs. with a low of 2 degrees....brrr!
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Laura II on January 13, 2004, 07:02:17 PM
Jose, apparently we're supposed to get snow here in VA too. I was supposed to go to Georgetown tomorrow night, but my friends want to avoid any bad weather.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Michael on January 13, 2004, 07:09:07 PM
My ex-husband, who was from Newfoundland and knew of such things, told me that if he ever got that way I should put him on an iceberg and simply let him float away.

Here is an unique Canadian joke you might like.

CBC National News announced tonight that world will end tonight at midnight. 12:30 in Newfoundland.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: S. Woody White on January 13, 2004, 07:10:27 PM
Weather?  What, my dear Neice, do you mean by weather?  I've never experienced anything called weather!
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Jane on January 13, 2004, 07:13:41 PM
Today’s discussion has taken a thoughtful turn for me.  I very much enjoyed Charles Pogue’s posting regarding his visit to Mary Astor.  I read it as a personal story of his experience.  Obviously, to me, his heart and intuition were saying not to visit her.  Panni brought up an interesting view regarding the telling of this story, one I think is valid.  Sometimes it feels so personal here I just think of it as friends sharing experiences.  Still, I liked the story.

I began this post hours ago but had to rush off.  I have found the continued conversations regarding this issue interesting.  It is great to have different opinions discussed in such a friendly manner.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Jane on January 13, 2004, 07:15:18 PM
TCB my deepest sympathies to you.  It must have been a dreadful shocking experience for you.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 13, 2004, 07:18:32 PM
Hmmm 4-6 inches of snow?  AOL down here - or at least weather.com on AOL is only saying 1-3 inches right now.  BUT they are posting the warning about the "severe cold".  But that's what jackets, scarves, ear-muffs, gloves and hats are for!

We'll be leaving at 8:00, so we should miss any of the bad stuff on the way up.  And if we get "snowed in" Thursday morning in New York, at least we'll be in New York!  -And at least I know that NYC does not shut down just because of a few inches of snow... Now, if we were staying in Richmond... ugh!
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: MBarnum on January 13, 2004, 07:26:53 PM
LOL! JRand53, that Loretta Young driving story had me in stiches...I could just picture it! Ha!

PS: I have two tapes full of WB shows for you...10 hours of Sandy, Kookie, Dave, Ken, and Cricket!
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Jennifer on January 13, 2004, 07:34:13 PM
Tonight I saw on the weather channel that the low will be -47C with windchill. That is freakin insane!

Also DR Jason mentioned Kiss Of the Spiderwoman.  Seeing Chita Rivera on the tour, was part of the reason I became so interested in musical theatre.  Before seeing her, I think the only two broadway type musicals I'd seen were Les Mis and Phantom.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Jennifer on January 13, 2004, 07:36:45 PM
Also re: internet dating, I'd say just be VERY careful.  There are many nice people (like the ones here).  Personally I have stayed away from actual dating sites.  But have met people through various groups.  Just really get to know anyone you meet on the net well before you meet them in person (lots of emails and phone calls first). I think you will figure out if you have a lot in common.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: George on January 13, 2004, 07:39:24 PM
I have been most errant and truant (and truant and errant) the last couple of days.  Before I comment on topics (I have to go to Seattle now and I won't be back until late), I found this article on Playbill.com:

Bway's Taboo Will Close Feb. 8 After 100 Performances (http://www.playbill.com/news/article/83775.html)

Is this really news or was it sort of expected?

This article (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20040114/ap_on_en_ot/theater_taboo_closing&e=1&ncid=) says that the show lost its entire $10 million investment.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Matt H. on January 13, 2004, 08:08:43 PM
Believe you me, DR Danise, I'm discretion and caution itself. I'm no wide-eyed innocent when it comes to the people inhabiting our planet. But I appreciate your concern.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: bk on January 13, 2004, 08:08:49 PM
Where in tarnation IS everyone?  I am here.  Just finished watching It Should Happen to You about which more in tomorrow's notes.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Matt H. on January 13, 2004, 08:13:17 PM
Yes, all three leads in KISS OF THE SPIDER WOMAN won Tony Awards and all well deserved.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Matt H. on January 13, 2004, 08:16:00 PM
I started on THE DICK VAN DYKE SHOW - Season 2 box today. Just as wonderful as I remembered. Also got the gutters cleaned (but not the roof; will get to that either tomorrow or Thursday before cold temperatures return on Saturday.)
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 13, 2004, 08:20:24 PM
Well, I guess it pays to watch the news... I just saw the report about the accident just outside of Baltimore that closed I-95 NORTHBOUND - and that may keep it closed until tomorrow morning (pending the accident investigation!  Ah, well... At least it's easy to get around, so it shouldn't be that inconvenient... And at least we're leaving early...  Guess it's time to check some other websites before going to bed... and before heading out in the morning...
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 13, 2004, 08:21:22 PM
-Oh, I still do have that free Amtrak voucher... Hmmm...
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: bk on January 13, 2004, 08:24:33 PM
Been reading all the Taboo closing comments - very amusing - as if this show were suddenly the second coming.  This happens every time a closing notice is put up these days  "Hey, tell fifty people you know to go buy tickets, we can SAVE THE SHOW."  I wouldn't be surprised if there were some kind of reprieve or extension, although it would totally be for nothing except more money lost.  I remember the Side Show groupies doing this until you wanted to throw things at them - not all shows are great, not all shows should stay open because people on the Internet wish it so, not all shows DESERVE to run.  I, of course, am not speaking specifically of Taboo, which I haven't seen, but it's clear it hasn't found its audience no matter how hard its producer tried to shove it down everyone's throats.  She has guts, she believes in what she believes in, all that is admirable.  David Merrick knew when to cut his losses, all great and responsible producers do.   You'd think people had died from the comments around the net.  This whole generation of young theater goers has no idea how it was in the past - shows came, shows went, some hit, some missed, it wasn't a national tragedy.  End of rant.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Jennifer on January 13, 2004, 08:24:46 PM
BK, I'm here :(

I'm curious, have you watched ANYTHING on your new dish?  You still only talk about dvds. There must be something you can find to watch.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: bk on January 13, 2004, 08:27:12 PM
I watched two episodes of Curb Your Enthusiasm, and I saw one of my Tricks of the Trade episodes.  I've watched a couple of Biographies, and seen bits and pieces of other things.  The one thing I always forget to do is check local channels, I always start at 200 and work my way up.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Jennifer on January 13, 2004, 08:28:38 PM
I haven't read the Taboo stuff yet, maybe tomorrow.  But sometimes it is heartbreaking when show you love can't find an audience.  BK, mentioned Side Show. To me that was one of the best, most moving things I'd ever seen. Yet try to get people to see a show about siamese twins.  
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Jennifer on January 13, 2004, 08:31:00 PM
Ah, when you said "trading" I thought you were gonna say you watched an episode of Trading Spaces :(
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Michael on January 13, 2004, 08:32:59 PM
Where in tarnation IS everyone?  I am here.  Just finished watching It Should Happen to You about which more in tomorrow's notes.

So did I!  And I still love it. Judy Holiday what a treasure. So sad we lost her soooo young
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Matt H. on January 13, 2004, 08:33:08 PM
TABOO lost its entire $10 million investment? I suspect it lost substantially more than its original investment since I don't think the show ever posted a single week of running in the black.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: bk on January 13, 2004, 08:39:51 PM
Yes, MattH, I meant to mention that.  It never met its weekly nut, she spent a fortune on advertising that probably went above the original ad budget, etc.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: td on January 13, 2004, 08:44:45 PM
Are we on a dinner break?    

No, BK: I was on a rehearsal break.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Matt H. on January 13, 2004, 08:45:11 PM
I get no glee out of seeing any new Broadway musical fail (nope, not even DANCE OF THE VAMPIRES), but it seemed pretty obvious after the first two weeks there was no substantial audience for this show. As someone who adores Broadway musicals, I must admit that reading about the subject matter of the show and its look as seen in internet photos did not impel me to make a trip to NYC to see it.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: td on January 13, 2004, 08:45:16 PM
A pair of tickets to a show?  Eggs and bacon?  Pancakes?  A winning lotto ticket?

The mind boggles......

Indeed, the mind DOES BOGGLE. . .
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 13, 2004, 08:46:35 PM
OK - I'm gonna take care of the last little bit of packing and prepping, then I'm gonna attempt to get at least six hours of sleep - although, I have a sense the anticipation will be keeping me up - as well as trying to think of all the alternate routes around the accident outside of Baltimore - thankfully, there are a few options which won't take us too far out of the way.

Until the morning.. Goodnight.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Matt H. on January 13, 2004, 08:48:20 PM
I'll be heading downstairs now for some much needed rest. I'll catch up tomorrow with any late night posting frenzies that might occur. Good night, all.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: SwishySarah on January 13, 2004, 08:49:15 PM
Well, today marked the beginning of exam week. This morning at 8:45 I started my Algebra exam. It took me about an hour and a half, even for just 55 problems. There were a few problems that I wasn't sure on, but overall I think I did well. I'm betting on a low B. (In this county, the grading scale is f**ked up, and a B only goes down to an 86. I get really nervy about this, since I moved from a place where you could get a 60 and still have a D. Argh.)

Then I had a 30 minute lunch break. Normal lunches are divided into four 30-minute sections, and the school is evenly divided. But since they don't want a 2 hour break between exams, they just say "Eat wherever and clean up your mess."

Over 1100 kids in the hallways. I almost had a nervous breakdown. I'm not claustrophobic, but that's a little TOO many people for me. But luckily a group of friends and I found a nice quiet spot in a "hidden" hallway and ate. I decided about halfway through lunch that we needed to mellow out and have some fun, so, OF COURSE, I started a food fight. Which turned into a full-blown war. Apples, goldfish, and yogurt (I know, GROSS!) were flying. And then the principal showed up. I thought we were going to get into trouble, but he merely said "You DO know you're cleaning this up when you finish, right?" When we confirmed, he just smiled and kept on walking.

I have the coolest principal.

Next came the French exam, which was CAKE. I finished in 12 minutes flat. I don't think it could have been any easier, the ENTIRE thing was excercizes copied from previous worksheets. Like I said, CAKE.

My friend Jennifer and I left after school let out (2 hours early, thank the Lord!), went to a local bar/burger place, she grabbed a cheeseburger, then went to Starbucks. My hottie wasn't working until 3 :(.

And that was my day. Mostly, anyway. Wasn't that THRILLING?!

Ten thousand people are shaking their heads "No" right now and rolling their eyes.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Andrea on January 13, 2004, 08:50:31 PM
As someone who adores Broadway musicals, I must admit that reading about the subject matter of the show and its look as seen in internet photos did not impel me to make a trip to NYC to see it.

You're so tactful DR MattH. Personally? It made me want to throw up. Looking at the website, reading about what the subject manner was made me feel physically sick in a bad way. When DR Emily suggested I see that, she almost got punched :)
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: bk on January 13, 2004, 08:53:35 PM
Swishy, have you forgotten to send me something?

Awaiting late-night denizens.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: SwishySarah on January 13, 2004, 08:55:43 PM
RE: Online personal stuff- I'm kind of wary about giving personal information out online. It's not that I have people singled out as dangerous, but overall, you really never know who's behind that name/face. Who knows? BK could really be some killer who got plastic surgery to resemble star Bruce Kimmel. All of the people in his pictures could be cardboard cutouts! Jason could really be a married woman living in New Jersey with 6 healthy Irish kids and a very UNhealthy obsession with Bruce Springsteen! Maya could be...well...never mind, I know Maya.

You get the idea. I have to give serious thought into giving out info.

I'm currently listening to "The Rhythm of Life" being sung by the 2003 All-County Middle School Girls Choir. I love this song.

Off to study a bit more for English and Drivers Ed, which I have tomorrow. PRAY FOR SNOW, I REALLY want another weekend to study, since last was jampacked with SAT/work/show things. Argh.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Noel on January 13, 2004, 09:02:23 PM
Before she went to bed (jet lag problems) DW Joy told me explicitly that I shouldn't make fun of musicals that other DRs consider to be their favorites.

But come on...

A show about Siamese twin sisters, and their romantic troubles?  It sounds like a party game: Let's Make Up the Dumbest Topic For a Musical We Can Think Of.

(Another winner might be Welcome to the Club by Cy Coleman, about a prison where divorced men are thrown if they don't keep up their alimony payments.)

Luckily, writers Blair Fell and Maggie Moore played the Siamese twin sister idea for exactly what it's worth, and their From the Hip had me laughing my head off.  Lines like, "Cut down on the Scotch, Sis - I'M the one with the liver."  And my favorite: "Mother told us never to get romantically involved unless it was with another set of Siamese twins."  "With our luck, it would have been diagonal!"
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Jane on January 13, 2004, 09:02:25 PM
SwishySarah good luck on the rest of your exams.  I like your principal.

Goodnight all.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: bk on January 13, 2004, 09:04:33 PM
Well, Swisher, I was just trying to do you a good turn.  But you knew that.   I'll decide for you: Don't give the information out (even though you already gave the information out once before) - we're just very dangerous, kid, VERY dangerous.  And you're very young.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: S. Woody White on January 13, 2004, 09:10:30 PM
I remember der Brucer and I seeing Side Show (matinee) and Triumph of Love (night) on the same day.  No, I didn't care for Side Show, while Triumph was an unexpected delight.  But that's beside the point right now.

Both shows were in their final days.  At the end, both casts came out begging people to help save their shows.  Frankly, I found it embarrasing.  What was worse was that the begging was so scripted...and practically followed the same script for both shows!
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Jennifer on January 13, 2004, 09:12:15 PM
Not really sure what info Swishy doesn't want to give out.  But I will vouch for Bruce.  Now Jason being a married housewife ... well I can't be sure about that one! (that made me laugh so hard). :)
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: td on January 13, 2004, 09:14:14 PM
RE: Online personal stuff- I'm kind of wary about giving personal information out online. It's not that I have people singled out as dangerous, but overall, you really never know who's behind that name/face. Who knows? BK could really be some killer who got plastic surgery to resemble star Bruce Kimmel. All of the people in his pictures could be cardboard cutouts! Jason could really be a married woman living in New Jersey with 6 healthy Irish kids and a very UNhealthy obsession with Bruce Springsteen!

NO! No, my sweetest dancing partner - - Jason and I could NOT POSSIBLY be the same person! ! ! Besides, he has two left feet!

 ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: td on January 13, 2004, 09:16:01 PM
. . .and regarding online dating: since Sunday night, I have received THREE offers for coffee and/or cocktails as well as FIVE WINKS (i think that's a good thing. . .) and my profile is very highly viewed in HOLLAND ! ! What is it about Dutchmen? ? ?  Must be all that Wagnerian flying !
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Panni on January 13, 2004, 09:18:11 PM
No more posting for me tonight. Going to have an evening of thinking, reflecting, being quiet. G'night.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: bk on January 13, 2004, 09:23:54 PM
Panni is, as always, BUSY.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: td on January 13, 2004, 09:34:19 PM
Panni is, as always, BUSY.

aren't we all? ! ? ! ? !

Our director told us tonight exactly how she knows the playwright Lanford Wilson, and what his plans are regarding our production. . .
Yeesh!  I love the script, and I love Wilson's other writings, BUT, does he really have to come to THIS PRODUCTION?!?!?!?!?
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: td on January 13, 2004, 10:26:06 PM
Now, that's what I call a lull. . . .
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Jason on January 13, 2004, 10:31:38 PM
Yes, it's true...I've been peelin' potatoes all the day, wearin' me wee little bonnet and apron and singin' "Danny Boy" to wee Patrick and his sister, Katherine. The other four children have been about, gatherin' more potatoes for tomorrow's breakfast. I best be peelin' those in a bit if I ever plan to have time for my class. I must take me jig lesson every Tuesday night or I start to lose me edge, don'tcha know?

How did I become a married housewife with six Irish children? Yikes!

Re. TABOO: I saw the show. Not my thing AT ALL. The only explanation for the begging to keep shows open is the hopes that some of these actors will be able to hang on to their jobs for as long as possible. A lame excuse to keep losing money? Perhaps to some...probably not to the actors and techies involved. Yes, it's pathetic, but I can understand where they're coming from...especially if their shows didn't run long enough for them to get their health benefits. Anyway, those are my $.02.

Frosted Lucky Charms...they're magically delicious!
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: bk on January 13, 2004, 10:42:19 PM
Man, we haz slowed to a crawl.  What happened to the giddiness of last week.  Has the giddiness gone to seed whilst the site has gone to pot?  How home and garden of us.  Well, over two hundred fifty posts is nothing to sneeze at.

ACHOO!

Oops, I was wrong.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Tomovoz on January 13, 2004, 10:49:36 PM
td: Will you be waiting for Lanford Wilson AND Guffman?
Jason: Is the only thing wrong "Danny Boy?". Guess you must have been singing "The Mountains Of Mourne".
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: td on January 13, 2004, 10:54:49 PM
Wow, it's about time some fresh blood got into a posting frenzy.
jason, you're so cute when you're irish is up.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: td on January 13, 2004, 10:57:07 PM
anyhow. . .
i went to the OTHER online meeting service during the lull, the one that I had forgotten all about being a member of, and to my utter amazement, I had six-count-em-six messages to sort through.  None of these ones were from Holland, though.  One of them actually. . .lives less than a mile away from me. . .NOW, THAT'S SCARY.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Tomovoz on January 13, 2004, 11:29:12 PM
I crawled away for a few minutes to check on some Cd availability and no posts in 30 minutes. Say something Jed.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: bk on January 13, 2004, 11:37:10 PM
You see what happens - we reach the highest heights and then everyone feels we need to reach the lowest lowghts.  Well, we will NOT reach the lowest because we already have more posts than you can shake a stick at.  I, in fact, just shook a stick and we do have more posts than the shaken stick.
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Jed on January 13, 2004, 11:38:00 PM
But if I were to say something, Tom, it would be posting just for the sake of posting, with nothing of any consequence to contribute to conversation.  I don't post just for the sake of posting.

Oh damn... I just did! :D
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: bk on January 13, 2004, 11:41:07 PM
The question is WHY.  WHY are people suddenly bereft of bon mots?
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: bk on January 13, 2004, 11:41:35 PM
I see Laura II!  Now things will perk up!
Title: Re:THE RHYTHM OF LIFE
Post by: Tomovoz on January 13, 2004, 11:48:28 PM
Does "perk up" have the same meaning in the USA as here. I am about to have my evening meal. To perk would be most unseemly at this time. As Barry McKenzie or Dame Edna's not so close friend, Sir Les Patterson would say. "Technicolour yawn". I shall of course return for an early morning (not to me!) post. Goodnight.