Haines His Way
Archives => Archive 1 => Topic started by: bk on February 02, 2004, 11:58:57 PM
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Well, you've read the notes, you know what we are seeking, you know our quest, you know our goals, so post away until those fershluganah cows come home.
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Favourite songs of the 70's:
Simon & Garfunkel "Bridge Over Troubled Water"
Simon & Garfunkel "The Boxer"
Don McLean "Vincent"
Nilsson "Without You"
Roberta Flack "Killing Me Softly With His Song"
Dave Loggins "Please Come To Boston"
Queen "Bohemian Rhapsody"
Gerry Rafferty "Baker Street"
The Eagles "Hotel California" "Lyin' Eyes" "New Kid in Town"
Carpenters: "Calling Occupants Of Interplanetary Craft".
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It really was an interesting decade, wasn't it? I'd add Widescreen by our very own Rupert Holmes, Second Avenue by Tim Moore (wonderful song - Guy Haines WILL be singing it soon), So Long, Frank Lloyd Wright.
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What do I spy? I spy six guests a lurking that's what I spy. Welcome GUESTS. Who in tarnation ARE you?
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In case anyone is thinking 1870's the songs from "HMS Pinafore" and "Pirates Of Penzance" have lasted the distance.
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Another Don McLean song that's one of my favorites: "American Pie"
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More later...goodnight.
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I have an unfair start I guess. I shall leave Carole King, Elton John, Carly Simon and James Taylor songs for others to list.
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I just typed a lengthy post and got an errror message of too many connections. I am not going to rewrite it now.
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I try to avoid the 1970s whenever possible.
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I am not going to rewrite it now.
Best you do, lest BK casts an aspertion (sic) at you.
der Brucer - the eternal pessimist who always does a Select All, CTRL C before entrusting a lengthy post to the whims of Ye Angry Buffalo Bill (YaBB) whose Sexier Editon (SE) rules this roost
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The 1970s? Wasn't that the decade of decadence and DISCO? ? ?
Anyway, yes, there was some good (and great) music in that fabulous decade:
"The Only Living Boy in New York" - Simon & Grafunkel
"I Guess the Lord Must be in New York City" - Nilsson
"Shiver Me Timbers"
"Martha"
"Old '55"
"The Heart of a Saturday Night" - all Tom Waits
"New York State of Mind" "I've Loved These Days"- Billy Joel
"His Friends are more than Fond of Robin" - Carly Simon
"Rosalita" "Thunder Road" "Born to Run" - The OTHER DerBrucer
"Moving Out Today" - Carole Bayer Sager, Bette Midler
"Midnight Blue" - Melissa Manchester
"All My Life" - Barry Manilow
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Most of the best recordings of the 70s featured songs written in earlier eras.
Well I guess I saw it just in time. GYPSY closes 2/28. I guess Bernadette isn't the draw they thought she was. I also think it was too soon to bring the show back. This means two prime houses on 44th Street will be dark - The Shubert and The Broadhurst. At least if something new wants to come in they can't use the excuse "lack of suitable theatres".
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I try to avoid the 1970s whenever possible.
Well, here are the Grammy Winners you are missing:
Year Show
1970 Company
1971 Godspell
1972 Don't Bother Me, I Can't Cope
1973 A Little Night Music
1974 Raisin
1975 The Wiz
1976 Bubling Brown Sugar
1977 Annie
1978 Ain't Misbehavin'
1979 Sweeney Todd
Year Male
1970 Glen Campbell
1971 James Taylor
1972 Harry Nillson
1973 Stevie Wonder
1974 Stevie Wonder
1975 Paul Simon
1976 Stevie Wonder
1977 James Taylor
1978 Barry Manilow
1979 Billy Joel
Year Female
1970 Bobbie Gentry
1971 Carole King
1972 Helen Reddy
1973 Roberta Flack
1974 Olivia Newton-John
1975 Janis Ian
1976 Linda Ronstadt
1977 Barbra Streisand
1978 Anne Murray
1979 Dionne Warwick
And Bette Midler and The Carpenters are in other categories!
der Brucer (Son of the Seventies, etc, etc,)
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The 1970s? Wasn't that the decade of decadence and DISCO? ? ?
And John DENVER!
der not-Springsteen Brucer
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As Miss Mazeppa would more than likely say:
. . .Something w-r-o-n-g with John Denver? ? ?
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And, thank you for the Grammy list, because anything Janis Ian wrote in the 1970s is well worth mentioning; which I shall probably do once I get home from work. :P
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Kelsey Grammer to Play Musical Scrooge for NBC:
http://www.broadway.com/template_1.asp?CI=33743&CT=38
Donna Lynne Champlin, Julia Murney, Mary Beth Peil and Mary Testa will star in the New York revival of First Lady Suite:
http://www.broadway.com/template_1.asp?CI=33735&CT=38
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Most of the best recordings of the 70s featured songs written in earlier eras.
What about these guys/gals:
Don Mc Lean
John Denver
Paul Simon
Anne Murray
The Carpenters
James Taylor
Melissa Manchester
Carole King
Billy Joel
Stevie Wonder
Barry Manilow
der Brucer (who remembers more than Disco Annie)
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I love the pop music of the 70s...The Carpenters are top favorites, and yes, I love the disco stuff too! Woohoo! The 70s has some of my favorite top 40 music!
Good music...bad clothes.
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Good music...bad clothes.
So, spying on my Album collection and my closet, eh!
der Brucer (who wonders if he moved his black-watch plaid polyester bell-bottoms)
PS You forgot really bad hair!
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I also try to forget the 1970's. Although S/G songs already mentioned are probably among my favorites.
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As I looked at others' lists and the Grammy list, I'm sure there is pop music of the period that I really liked along with movie themes like "The Way We Were" and "Last Dance," but my heart has always been with Broadway, so I'd be listing all the songs from COMPANY, FOLLIES, NIGHT MUSIC, SWEENEY TODD, many from PACIFIC OVERTURES, PIPPIN, A CHORUS LINE, CHICAGO, PURLIE, OVER HERE, SEESAW, and a few each from THE WIZ, SHENANDOAH, ANNIE, BALLROOM, APPLAUSE, I LOVE MY WIFE, and some other shows.
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I read earlier this morning that TORCH SONG TRILOGY and LOVE! VALOUR! COMPASSION! are both coming to DVD on May 4th in new widescreen anamorphic transfers, and TORCH SONG will have Dolby Digital and DTS tracks and a running commentary by Harvey Fierstein. I'm really thrilled with this news.
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I suggest for the amusement of our younger dear readers that we who were alive during the 70s post photos of ourselves from that decade.
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I'd add Widescreen by our very own Rupert Holmes,
And leave out the Pina Colada song! (From which there is no Escape)
der Brucer
See Rupert Holmes (http://www.rupertholmes.com/home.html) for more than you'd ever need to know!
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Pictures of ourselves from the 1970's...a scary thought, but I will if the other DR's will. :o
Here is your Allison Hayes picture of the week - Gunslinger - wherein town sheriff Beverly Garland is getting the best of Allison in a saloon fight! :P
Oops! No Allison is on top now that I study the picture!
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Sure, I'll be glad to post a pic or two. I think school pictures will be all I have (Teachers were made to have their pictures taken as well as the students, but we didn't have to pay for ours.)
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I suggest for the amusement of our younger dear readers that we who were alive during the 70s post photos of ourselves from that decade.
What- Leisure Suits, Turquoise rings, pooka bead necklaces, hair that took days to blow dry - not on your life!
Like this:
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00004ZBC9.01._PE8_SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg)
der Brucer (who suspects 1980's "The Mirror Cracked" was so titled as an homage to the visual excesses of the previous decade)
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Sure, I'll be glad to post a pic or two. I think school pictures will be all I have (Teachers were made to have their pictures taken as well as the students, but we didn't have to pay for ours.)
Go ahead and post - I'm sure some of us will make you "pay for it" 8)
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I've got a picture from the 70's - but I don't want to be first!
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I'll have to find them but I know I have some embarrasing pictures of me during my college years. I had a perm and a beard at one point (why, oh, why did I ever do that!!!). I'll try to find it. It may cause some spit takes, though so be warned.
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JRand, you started Page 2, why not go first. I will go home at lunch and see what I can find.
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All right DRBen. Prepare yourselves! :o
Since I am home sickly today, I scanned this. It is me, yes me, teaching a routine at the 1977 Indiana State Dance Convention. It is my class of about 400 kids....and my friend Patty is assisting me. We are demonstrating the art of the disco punch to "Enjoy Yourself" by the Jackson Five!
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I have lots of favorite seventies tunes, but here are a few recorded by Sergio Mendes, during his "decade in pop obscurity":
Gone Forever (Paul Williams)
Love Music (Lambert & Potter)
Sunny Day (Michael Sembello)
Tomorrow, I will not be stuck in Tacoma, but will be close: I will be doing some research at the State Archives in Olympia, Washington. I hear they have the Ark of the Covenant up there somewhere on a shelf. :)
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I know what you're looking for!
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I've got a picture from the 70's - but I don't want to be first!
I hear echoes of "I'll show you mine, if you show me yours"!
der Brucer (who's shown enough already)
(Most of my pictures from the seventies are from whem I was in a Motorcycle Club)
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DR MattH,
I too was thinking about the Broadway shows of the seventies. One other that I'd include is 70 Girls 70.
And here's another song fondly remembered from that decade:
"Who Can Turn The World On With Her Smile?"
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Yep, great choices, DR Dan.
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I had an insight into the awfulness of auditions yesterday, at the Falcon Theater's Magic Flute call. Lots of people waiting in the lobby below, groups of three or four periodically sent upstairs to wait in the narrow hallway outside the main rehearsal hall, where fifteen or so actors waited ahead of us. Cramped space, recycled tension-and-fear-laced air. Suddenly, this old Trouper felt, quite inexplicably, my heart start pounding like Nazi's were chasing me.
Nota bene: this was an adaptation of Magic Flute, for an hour-long kids' show, at a very low pay rate. I san principal soprano roles in my seven seasons at New York City Opera, including THIS OPERA. I was well-prepared, and very much In Voice. And this heart-pounding, breathless thing was so unexpected and inexplicable.
(just btw - they were extremely nice to everyone)
I emerged from that audition feeling drained and shell-shocked, as if i had run two miles with bk. Only on my way home did I realize what had happened:
a famous scientific experiment puts rats in a cage and then shocks them repeatedly. They are removed from the cage. Other, calm rats from another, happier room get shoved into the BAD cage - and immediately freak out -- even WITHOUT the electricity. The very scent of the other rats' fear and panic sends them into Survival Mode.
I think maybe that's what happened to me -- and to the other folks, and then we passed it on. Worth a study. I do know a little about the benefits of aroma therapy... maybe we should bring our little plastic bags of lavender-scented cotton balls with us to auditions? Worth a try.
That is all!
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... maybe we should bring our little plastic bags of lavender-scented cotton balls with us to auditions? Worth a try.
Why not, Alex Baldwin took his Schweaty Balls to his SNL audition.
der Brucer (suggesting the men do something a little more butch than "lavender" - Old Spice anyone?)
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OK, here are two old school photos from my early years of teaching in the 1970s. The one on the left was taken after I had been teaching about two months. The one on the right was taken five or six years later. I actually LOST weight as I got older! Boy, do I wish I had that problem now! ::)
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Hey, DR derBrucer, I wouldn't mind seeing you in pics from your Motorcycle Club.
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Now, Dear Readers, we cannot let the oeuvre of Miss Donna Summer go unmentioned in this collection of pantheonic music of the 1970s, can we?
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Dear Reader PennyO:
What was the time frame of your seven years at NYCO? I was quite a habitue of the place until I moved to sunny Southern California. Perhaps I've heard you sing there.
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Our lives in the 1970s would have been considerably poorer, too, without the fine musical contributions of The Village People.
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Nice pics MATTH. I haven't mailed your packages yet MATT & TD....been away from work. Hopefully tomorrow!
Another vote for the motorcycle pictures.
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DR Jay, I mentioned "Last Dance" in my post, so I at least mentioned a song Donna Summer made famous even though I didn't call her by name. And those songs that the Bee Gees did for SATURDAY NIGHT FEVER shouldn't be forgotten either. I am not one to denegrate disco music. A lot of it may have been bubble gum pop stuff, but it was catchy and imminently danceable.
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Pictures of ourselves from the 1970's...a scary thought, but I will if the other DR's will. :o
Here is your Allison Hayes picture of the week - Gunslinger - wherein town sheriff Beverly Garland is getting the best of Allison in a saloon fight! :P
Oops! No Allison is on top now that I study the picture!
Is this a picture from the famous lesbian love scene that was edited out of the Gunslinger until being restored for the Director's Cut?
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Confidential to Dear Reader der Brucer:
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Good morning. Good song choices. Of course, songs written in other eras and covered in the seventies do not count. I was very fond of Donna Summer's On the Radio, too. And let us not forget Mr. Randy Newman's seventies output, which features many classic songs.
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Goodness! I turned 1000 (posts, not pounds) without even noticing the change. They say that, life begins at 1000!
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Ben Kingsley and I agree!
When I filed a brief review of House of Sand and Fog here, I said it played like Shakespearean drama, and that the main characters would have been a perfect fit in the Bard's tragedies.
Here is Ben Kingsley on his role in HoSaF, in today's New York Times:
"I read Behrani as an archetype," he continued, "as a character in dramatic terms who would stand shoulder to shoulder with King Lear in terms of what he says to the audience, in suffering and failure."
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LOL TCB.....I don't think so, but the subtext could always have escaped my notice.
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Am I the only person who thinks this has to be one of the scariest situations to be in?
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/South/02/03/student.death.ap/index.html
They have LOCKED the students in their classrooms.
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From the review in today's New York Times of a 70th birthday celebration for Miss Marilyn Horne at Carnegie Hall:
"...Ms. Horne undercut some of the reverence by telling the story of how she and Ms. [Barbara] Cook first met to their mutual embarrassment at an Overeaters Anonymous meeting at Lenox Hill Hospital.
"The legendary divas then sang two duos, including the highlight of the afternoon: "The Grass Is Always Greener" from Kander and Ebb's "Woman of the Year."
Now that must have been fun!
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Here's a bit of recording trivia most everyone won't remember (but then, I'm not "most everyone"):
Back in the early '70s, when the trio Peter, Paul and Mary broke up and went their separate ways, they each started off with solo albums with covers that sort of tied their new directions to their previous incarnation. Mary came first, with an album called Mary. Very simple cover, sunshine yellow with her name in pink, using the same font the team had used on all their earlier albums. Peter came next, with Peter on the front of his cover, vanilla on chocolate, but using a non-shiny, textured paper.
Paul, of course, was third. Royal blue background, red lettering. Always the humorist of the trio, he called his album Paul and...
(It was the better of the three albums, in my opinion. The following album he released made for a larger break from the past, as he started using his full name, Noel Paul Stookey. But I'm pretty sure it was on his first album that he introduced "There is Love," aka "The Wedding Song".)
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Emily that is just very, very sad. :( I guess the police don't want to risk destroying evidence. Though my first impulse is for the students to be home with their families, emotionally it might be more beneficial for them to stay together for now.
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Penny---
Can you tell my why NYCO insists on doing MAGIC FLUTE in English while they do other operas in the language in which they were written ? I know that when the current production was new it was sung in German (I have the tape from PBS) but when I went to see it last fall it was back to English. Thanks.
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Good Morning! Good Afternoon! Wherever you are!
Ah, the 70s! I still fondly remember my time next to my Radio Shack radio/cassette combo... And, yes, I would record my favorites - and near favorites - whenever I had the chance. And I would call and bug the DJs to get the titles of the songs if I didn't know what they were. Hmm... I guess that meant I was singing lyrics over the phone... OH, and I always made sure to get the name of the groups or singers too!
-Of course, I can't remember the names of the singers right now... In any case, here's a random list right off the top of my head:
"The Night Chicago Died"
"S-A-T-U-R-D-A-Y Night"
"Jump Shout Boogie", "I Write the Songs", "Mandy"
"You Needed Me"
"Bonaparte's Retreat" - ???
"On the Radio" - My favorite Donna Summer song!
"Love Will Keep Us Together", "Muskrat Love", "Shop Around" - Have to have my Captain & Tennille!
"Kung Fu Fighting"
"Your Mama Don't Dance", "Whenever I Call You "Friend"", "House At Pooh Corner", "Danny's Song" - Good ole Loggins and/or Messina.
"Takin' It To the Streets", "China Grove", "Listen to the Music", "Black Water" - Hmmm.. I think I may have to put Best of the Doobie Brothers CD in this afternoon...
"With A Little Luck", "Listen To What The Man Said", "Live And Let Die", "Silly Love Songs", "Let 'Em In" -And, Yes, I do know Paul McCartney was in a band before Wings!
"Vincent", "American Pie"
"One Tin Soldier" - I think it technically came out in the late 60's, but I remember it from the 70's. What an amazing song!
"You Light Up My Life"
"Take Me Home, Country Roads"
"Afternoon Delight" - Ah, the Starland Vocal Band - and I remember when Eskimo Nell's burned down.
"Knock On Wood" - The Disco version.
"Blinded By The Light" - Complete with that mystery lyric.
-Eclectic, huh?
-And, many, many, many more... :-)
Wow... This is bringing quite the trip down Memory Lane. I remember religiously listening to Casey Kasem's Top 40 Countdown... Oh, and, of course, "The Donny & Marie Show", "The Sonny & Cher Show"... "Tony Orlando & Dawn"...
;D
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Am I the only person who thinks this has to be one of the scariest situations to be in?
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/South/02/03/student.death.ap/index.html
They have LOCKED the students in their classrooms.
It's not quite like it seems.
A “lock down” is a police measure to protect potential victims until the authorities can search an area for a perpetrator. It is not a punitive measure.
The “lock down” isn’t scary, it means the police are doing their best to protect the kids. The scary part is the unexplained dead student.
der Brucer (hoping to explain "Yankee Idiom")
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Penny---
Can you tell my why NYCO insists on doing MAGIC FLUTE in English while they do other operas in the language in which they were written ? I know that when the current production was new it was sung in German (I have the tape from PBS) but when I went to see it last fall it was back to English. Thanks.
If I may chime in here... If I recall correctly, it has to do with the translation they are using... the copyright, and, thus, the royalities.
*Now, does NYCO have the dialogue in English and the songs in the original German? -I've seen and heard a few productions done this way - it works for me.
It's like when a company wants to use some of those Ruth & Thomas Martin translations that appear in the G. Schirmer scores... The music is long out of copyright, but the translation is not! -Which is also why most companies "commission" a new one for their own use, and that "commissioning" usually consists of sitting down with various other translations and "getting ideas" from those to put into their new one.
-My favorite "Magic Flute" recording - besides Miss Florence Foster Jenkins, of course - is one I have in Italian - can't recall the singers, but it's sooo neat to hear it in another language. Of course, this leads to the whole "Do you put the opera in the language of the "people?" debate... But that's not today's topic...
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Though my first impulse is for the students to be home with their families, emotionally it might be more beneficial for them to stay together for now.
For the students to be home with their families they would have to run a gamut through areas of potential peril - there might be a killer loose for all we know! Safty first - stay in the classroom!
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Of course, this leads to the whole "Do you put the opera in the language of the "people?" debate... But that's not today's topic...
Considering that Magic Flute was written by Mozart for der volk, thus lyrics in German instead of the more traditional (for opera of the day) "Italian", I suspect he would favor having the work perfomed in the local language.
der Brucer (channeling Peter Shafer)
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I briefly had a photo up from 1977 but removed it. For some reason we couldn’t reduce the size and it was embarrassing.
Later, if I can find any, I might try posting one from the early seventies. They are more fun anyway. I have a great one of Penny O from around that time but she might kill me if I post it. :D
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Dear Reader PennyO:
What was the time frame of your seven years at NYCO? I was quite a habitue of the place until I moved to sunny Southern California. Perhaps I've heard you sing there.
Was your nom de habitue "Erik"?
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Confidential to Dear Reader der Brucer:
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No, "she" was in a different club.
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JoseSPiano "The Night Chicago Died" by Paper Lace is one of my all time favorite songs. At the moment I’m listening to it even though Echo is waiting for her walk. :)
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For the students to be home with their families they would have to run a gamut through areas of potential peril - there might be a killer loose for all we know! Safty first - stay in the classroom!
Yes safety first. I was also thinking of a very sad day at my son's high school. Three of his classmates were killed in a car accident on their way home from school. They hit black ice going too fast. Home wasn't where my son and his friends wanted to be. Eventually most of the student body found their way to the school where they could be together.
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Jose---
I would think that they would not have any royalty to pay for the original German but would have to pay it to whomever did the translation. Perhaps they were under some contractual obligation to the translator of their old production and had to ditch the German version which the new production initially used.
By the way, it was all English... no German at all. They did use supertitles which helped since a lot of the English pronounciation left much to be desired. But every other opera I have seen at NYCO is in the original language which led me to ask the question why MAGIC FLUTE in English and not any of the others.
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It is interesting how times have changed. I was looking at my brother Allen's yearbook from Medford High School circa 1972 and there is a picture of him and his buddies from the Gun Club (!) cleaning their rifles on campus.
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Confidential to JRand53
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Only on my way home did I realize what had happened:
a famous scientific experiment puts rats in a cage and then shocks them repeatedly. They are removed from the cage. Other, calm rats from another, happier room get shoved into the BAD cage - and immediately freak out -- even WITHOUT the electricity. The very scent of the other rats' fear and panic sends them into Survival Mode.
I think maybe that's what happened to me -- and to the other folks, and then we passed it on. Worth a study.
You tale of "sensing" emotions left behind by others is not unique.
Walking through the grounds of Dachau one can sense the "dread and doom".
Years ago, when crossing the checkpoint from East to West Berlin, one would swear you could "smell" freedom.
Woody had a very difficult time in the catacombs under St. Paul's cathedral because he "sensed Dead People" (A man before his time). If I ever get him to Malta, we will probably have to skip their fascinating catacombs - there you can "see dead people" - lots, and lots of them - laid out on row after row of shelves.
Malta also has a fascinating "pit" (Hypogeum (http://www.missgien.net/stone-age/marvels/hypogeum.html)) which goes deep into the rock where one discovers a stone age temple hollowed into what was presumably then a cave. The walls are covered with stone age art. Standing in that deep dank room, one could sense "antiquity". (It was a dark and dreary night when first into the pit we descended.....)
(http://www.missgien.net/stone-age/marvels/pix/hypogeum2.gif)
der Brucer (with unfond memories of having a HS paper returned with his delighful phrase "dark, deep, dungeon" circled in red with the words "Pure Trite" written above.)
Maltese Stone Age Sculpter anticipating the Super Bowl:
(http://www.myrine.at/Malta/venus.jpg)
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Penny---
Can you tell my why NYCO insists on doing MAGIC FLUTE in English while they do other operas in the language in which they were written ? I know that when the current production was new it was sung in German (I have the tape from PBS) but when I went to see it last fall it was back to English. Thanks.
I think it's because it's not - technically - an opera, but rather a "singspiel". It has spoken dialogues between the songs, instead of sung recitatives, and with NYCO being essentially an American opera house, more than half the singers don't speak most of the languages they can sing in... it's just ghastly to hear some fabulous voice from Tennessee drawling "Mah-nuh lip-peyn zee kee-yuss-ssuhn zoh-oo-uh hah-eece, y'all!" Sometimes, if it's going to be broadcast on PBS, the original casts are meticulously coached in the original language dialogues. When the show goes into repertory, any of a number of singers are on each role -- no time nor money to coach 'em all, so they revert to English.
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For some reason we couldn’t reduce the size and it was embarrassing.
When you and/or Keith find a fix for reducing sizes that are embarassing - please post it!
der Brucer (anticipating "size and/or Viagra jokes from TCB)
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Some favorite '70s songs (and yes, this list will definitely run the gamut from the ridiculous to the sublime...or maybe it's from the ridiculous to the downright goofy):
Hotel California
I Think I Love You
I Love the Nightlife
I'm Not in Love
Dream On
How Deep is Your Love
Theme to the ABC Movie (think "star tunnel")
Theme to the NBC Mystery Movie
Theme to the ABC Movie of the Week (aka "Nikki," by Burt Bacharach)
The Logical Song
Don't Go Breakin' My Heart
The Hell of It (from Phantom of the Paradise)
For a long time, I was jealous of people who were kids in the '50s, because I always thought (still do think) that the '50s were way cool. But just in the past few years, I've come to appreciate the pleasures of the decade of my own childhood, the '70s...a time when Billy Jack kicked butt for peace and all the girls in my class (except me) were named either Jennifer or Heather.
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It is interesting how times have changed. I was looking at my brother Allen's yearbook from Medford High School circa 1972 and there is a picture of him and his buddies from the Gun Club (!) cleaning their rifles on campus.
Ahh, yes, Michael, they conjures up some good memories!
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I think it's because it's not - technically - an opera, but rather a "singspiel". It has spoken dialogues between the songs, instead of sung recitatives, and with NYCO being essentially an American opera house, more than half the singers don't speak most of the languages they can sing in... it's just ghastly to hear some fabulous voice from Tennessee drawling "Mah-nuh lip-peyn zee kee-yuss-ssuhn zoh-oo-uh hah-eece, y'all!" Sometimes, if it's going to be broadcast on PBS, the original casts are meticulously coached in the original language dialogues. When the show goes into repertory, any of a number of singers are on each role -- no time nor money to coach 'em all, so they revert to English.
How knowledgeable.
How authoritative
How well expressed.
How delightfully refreshing!
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Dear Reader PennyO:
What was the time frame of your seven years at NYCO? I was quite a habitue of the place until I moved to sunny Southern California. Perhaps I've heard you sing there.
Late 70's-early 80's. I sang a zillion Carmen's - role of Frasquita, one of my favorites, lead line in the Quintet, Card Trio, big high C in Toreador, great solos in Smugglers' lair scene. And I LOVED my costumes!!! Also had Papagena, Barbarina, Musetta, all the operettas, original cast of the Joel Grey/Harold Prince SILVERLAKE (wow, that was great fun!!, plus Hal hired me for Doll's Life after that...), lots of strange, never-heard-of-again stuff.
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Dear Reader PennyO:
What was the time frame of your seven years at NYCO? I was quite a habitue of the place until I moved to sunny Southern California. Perhaps I've heard you sing there.
Late 70's-early 80's. Sang a zillion CARMEN's, role of Frasquita, one of my favorites for the lead lines in the Quintet, Card Trio, Smugglers' lair, big high C in Toreador. Loved my costumes. Sang Papagena, Barbarina, Musetta, lots of -ina's and -etta's (small and thin, easy to lift!), all the operettas, original cast of the Joel Grey/harold Prince SILVERLAKE. That was great! Oh, the times we had!!
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Thanks MBARNUM!
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The 70s had some of my favorite one hit wonders:
Love Grows Where my Rosemary Goes — by Edison Lighthouse
Rose Garden – Lynn Anderson
1900 Yesterday – Liz Damon’s Orient Express
Seasons in the Sun – Terry Jack
How Long – Ace
Lovin’ You – Minnie Ripperton
The Hustle – Van McCoy
Don’t Give Up on Us – David Soul
Don’t Leave me This Way – Thelma Houston
I Love the Night Life – Alicia Bridges
Pop Muzik – M
Knock on Wood – Ami Stewart
among many others (these are just some of my faves)!
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Oh - I got a message that sucker couldn't be posted. Okay, so it's rewritten and posted in two versions. Sheesh.
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And speaking of Carmen, let's not forget Eric Carmen and All By Myself and Never Gonna Fall in Love Again, both "borrowed" from Rachmaninov. Now THOSE were the days you could do such things.
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JoseSPiano "The Night Chicago Died" by Paper Lace is one of my all time favorite songs. At the moment I’m listening to it even though Echo is waiting for her walk. :)
I used to have a 45 of this song! My sister and I listened to it all the time. That was one record that I really wore out. One of the other few 45s that I had was "Snoopy vs. the Red Baron." I had it on the floor one day and a friend of mind squatted down and didn't see it. She plopped her knee right down on the record and cracked it. I was so mad...mainly at myself for putting it on the floor. I never heard the song again until a couple of years ago I downloaded a copy from Morpheus (or however it's spelled)...before all the broo-ha-ha with downloading music. I also found a copy of the song recorded by The Irish Rovers!
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The 60s and the 70s had a lot of novelty songs and instrumental hits in the top 40, but do they have much of either now-a-days. The only novelty song I can recall in recent years was maybe that Who Let the Dogs Out song, and I don't think I have heard an instrumental song in the top 40 since the 1980s. But then I haven't listened to much top 40 radio in the last 15 years or so.
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Late 70's-early 80's. Sang a zillion CARMEN's, role of Frasquita, one of my favorites for the lead lines in the Quintet, Card Trio, Smugglers' lair, big high C in Toreador. Loved my costumes. Sang Papagena, Barbarina, Musetta, lots of -ina's and -etta's (small and thin, easy to lift!), all the operettas, original cast of the Joel Grey/harold Prince SILVERLAKE. That was great! Oh, the times we had!!
Now I am quite confident, Dear Reader PennyO, that I've seen and heard you at the NYCO. I remember a performance of Carmen at NYCO in particular during your time there. Gwendolyn Killebrew was the Carmen, and Placido Domingo was the Don Jose. (I can't remember if Domingo had been announced or if he just happened to be in town and was covering for an indisposed tenor. Of course, Domingo sang quite a bit at NYCO in his earlier days.) Perhaps you were in the cast that night.
I am going to pay a visit to my storage boxes and try to locate my NYCO programs from that time frame and find out in what else I've seen and heard you!
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And speaking of Carmen, let's not forget Eric Carmen and All By Myself and Never Gonna Fall in Love Again, both "borrowed" from Rachmaninov. Now THOSE were the days you could do such things.
Don't you know!
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Woody had a very difficult time in the catacombs under St. Paul's cathedral because he "sensed Dead People" (A man before his time).
M. Night Shyamalan owes me royalties, big time!
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Jose: What is Bonaparte's Retreat? Is that by The Chieftains?
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For the students to be home with their families they would have to run a gamut through areas of potential peril - there might be a killer loose for all we know! Safty first - stay in the classroom!
No, they would have to run a gauntlet through areas of potential peril. Of course, since each student would be going in their separate ways home, they would be running a gamut of gauntlets.
You're right, better to keep them all together.
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Fourth Page Dance!
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Love the fourth page dance. Yesterday, we weren't even on the fourth page by six o'clock.
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Oh, and has anyone mentioned the marvelous Melissa Manchester's songs, both ones she wrote and ones she sang? And Carly Simon's beautiful That's the Way I've Always Heard it Should Be (can't remember if she wrote it or not).
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Now, of course, the game would be to list any songs written in the nineties or the aughts that are of the caliber of the ones listed here, and ones that will have a life like those listed here? Think they'll be singing My Heart Must Go On ten years from now? They're not even singing it NOW.
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One of the problems with trying to list "70s" music is that it comes from two very different mind-sets. First, there was the continuing "Summer of Love" that began in '68, but was still being felt into the 70s. Then, around '76 or so, the disco era began, transforming "Make love, not war" into "Make love."
Of course, some of the music covered both phases of the decade. Anyone remember the Jackson Five? Back when they were all still innocent? Are there any innocents in that family any more?
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Oh, how I miss the days on this site when I could have posted a post and signed it...
Love and kisses,
LaToya
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Now, of course, the game would be to list any songs written in the nineties or the aughts that are of the caliber of the ones listed here, and ones that will have a life like those listed here? Think they'll be singing My Heart Must Go On ten years from now? They're not even singing it NOW.
I believe there is a bounty being offered for anyone caught singing THAT song.
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You know, Janet Jackson has been hired by KFC to do their commericals. She is going to be pushing their new plumper and firmer ........ oh never mind.
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Woohoo! Universal is releasing a second set of Ma and Pa Kettle DVDs and another set of Abbott and Costello DVDs, along with some assorted vintage westerns from the 40s and 50s. It is very nice to see them starting to release some of the oldies! I hope they continue this trend!
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Jay & TCB this site wouldn't be as much fun without you both. LOL
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Thanks Jane. Nor would it be as nice a place to visit without you!
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Penny - Thanks. Your answer made sense. When it was on PBS, Beverly Sills was interviewed and she said how thrilled she was that they were finally doing it in German, but your reason for their return to the English is dead on. Now if only their English could be understood without supertitles!
TCB - I don't know if it the same song DR Jose is thinking of, but the "Bonepart's Retreat" I am familiar with was sung by Kay Starr.
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Jay & TCB this site wouldn't be as much fun without you both. LOL
The feeling's mutual, m'dear!
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I found this through a few links which led me to Slate, in a recap of current magazines:
" Time weighs in on the candidates' eating habits. While Wesley Clark loves Cheetos and Gummi Bears, John Kerry is a Hostess cupcake man, Howard Dean has a hearty "Clintonian" appetite, chowing down on pork sandwiches and strawberry milkshakes in Iowa. John Edwards, though, is at once the most worrisome and most adorable: While he "chugs about a dozen Diet Cokes daily," he also celebrates his nuptials with an annual trip to Wendy's, a sentimental nod to his first anniversary celebration."
By which I must assume they're finding Edwards' trips to Wendy's worrysome, because we all know Diet Coke chuggers are adorable! 8)
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Thanks, WEL, that is probably the one that Jose meant. I guess I am not familiar with that song.
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Making some lunch and then I will be posting away like mad, like mad do you hear me?
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Now I am quite confident, Dear Reader PennyO, that I've seen and heard you at the NYCO. I remember a performance of Carmen at NYCO in particular during your time there. Gwendolyn Killebrew was the Carmen, and Placido Domingo was the Don Jose. (I can't remember if Domingo had been announced or if he just happened to be in town and was covering for an indisposed tenor. Of course, Domingo sang quite a bit at NYCO in his earlier days.) Perhaps you were in the cast that night.
The CARMEN I was most touched by was the brief re-appearance of Victoria de los Angeles, when she came to the House to sing the role. i was her Frasquita - she was quite old and infirm at the time, but every once in awhile during that performance, she would spin out a magical phrase that quite took my heart. Unfortunately, that was her only performance, and she cancelled the rest of her run, including the live broadcast. But Joy Davidson sang the broadcast with us -- I'd love to get a pirate of THAT! Boy, was I in voice that day.
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PennyO -- Are there CDs available of you singing?
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Oh! and all the performances i sang with Sam Ramey as Escamillo!! Second act was SOOOOO fun! I have fictionalized this whole time at NYCO in Jewish Thighs... names have been changed to protect the GUILTY.
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PennyO -- Are there CDs available of you singing?
Has SILVERLAKE been issued as a CD? I have a swell duet early on in that, with mezzo Jane Shaulis. Julius Rudel let me take some liberties - how uncharacteristic of him!!!
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RE: Bonaparte's Retreat - After searching through the ASCAP and BMI on-line databases, I think I'm thinking of the version that was recorded by Glen Campbell or The Sons of the Pioneers. It was on a cassette of Great Country Songs that came with my cassette player. I'm not sure if it was originally from the 70's... However, the tape did start off with The Everly Brothers singing "Dream, Dream, Dream" - and I think I can still sing the harmonies to this day!!! *But I really don't think I can remember what "Bonaparte's Retreat" sounds like right now. I just really liked the title.
BK - Thanks for the Melissa Manchester reminder!
MBarnum - Was "Pop Music" really from the 70's? I seem to remember it from my middle school and grade school days which would have been early 80's... However, I could also be remembering their "custom" version called "Slush Turtles" since we had a rough winter, and they came up with a song about those chunks of ice and snow that would "grow" on cars right behind the tires... and would fall off sometimes, and look like a "slush turtle"... "Slush, Slush... Slush Turtles"...
OH PLEASE DO NOT LET ME HAVING THAT SONG GOING THROUGH MY HEAD FOR THE REST OF THE DAY!?!?!?
-OK - Everyone, All Together Now: Slush.. Slush..
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I have decided that I like snow. Snow is visual and textural.
Rain, on the other hand, is simply wet and cold.
Today we're having rain.
Phooey.
:P
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And , of course, i can send you the CD demo of my opera with Allen Shawn - The Ant and the Grasshopper - if you want.
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OH!! OH!! - Before I run to class...
I used to be obsessed with the Pointer Sisters version of "Fire". Oh, and then there was the parody version sung by Elmer Fudd:
I'm widing in caww
You turn on the wadio..
But when we kiss.. Oooo..
Fi-wah
:D
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And, yes, I did learn the hard way what C.O.D. meant by ordering various K-Tel albums!!!
-Time for class! Be back later!
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"Bonaparte's Retreat" was revived successfully (at least in OZ) by Glen Campbell in the 1970's. (1974) It had been a major hit for Billy Grammer in 1959 and Kay Starr in the 1950. (Just so that you know).
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"Pop Music" was from 1979.
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"Bonaparte's Retreat" was revived successfully (at least in OZ) by Glen Campbell in the 1970's. (1974) It had been a major hit for Billy Grammer in 1959 and Kay Starr in the 1950. (Just so that you know).
Obviously, it is impossible for us to discuss popular music definitively during the hours that Tomovoz is sleeping or napping. What will we do when Colin finally puts him in a home?
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Good afternoon, all. Just got back from a network story meeting which was fairly pleasant. Went out for coffee with the producers after the meeting, which was also nice. Read all the posts - interesting stuff. Now I must eat, do a few errands and get to work. Will check in later.
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70s music - Most of my favorites have already been mentioned, but I would have to add much of Billy Joel's "The Stranger" album.
As for a pic from the 70s, I'm afraid that all of those pics from my first two months of life are all down at my mother's house, so I can't oblige for now. DR Laura, this was your suggestion... where's your pic, eh??? :D
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Samuel Ramey has such a good voice; he is one of the few singers today who is equally at home singing opera and show music. Too bad he's devoted his career to directing Spiderman movies instead of singing.
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As for a pic from the 70s, I'm afraid that all of those pics from my first two months of life are all down at my mother's house, so I can't oblige for now.
You don't have get all smarmy on us, Dear Reader Jed. A simple "I don't have any pictures available" would have sufficed!
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Samuel Ramey has such a good voice; he is one of the few singers today who is equally at home singing opera and show music. Too bad he's devoted his career to directing Spiderman movies instead of singing.
You slay me, Dear Reader William E. Lurie. You really do.
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Smarmy? Moi??? :) Just sorry to deprive all y'all of my adorable newborn self, of course!
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And at least I do have pictures from the 70s, unlike Ann, Laura II, Maya, Sarah, Emily, Andrea, et al.
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Smarmy? Moi??? :) Just sorry to deprive all y'all of my adorable newborn self, of course!
Ooh...nudie baby pics! Gotta love them. I know my mother has some of those around, usually me with bare butt exposed for the world to see. Standard parental blackmail material, of course. But I didn't enter this here world until 1981, so I cannot participate in the 70's pics.
Jed - your mother didn't by any chance dress you in purple tights as a baby, did she? :)
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Oh, and has anyone mentioned the marvelous Melissa Manchester's songs, both ones she wrote and ones she sang? And Carly Simon's beautiful That's the Way I've Always Heard it Should Be (can't remember if she wrote it or not).
I mentioned Melissa (and Carole Baye Sager) bakc on page one. ;D
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Had to do it sometime. Hope you can read the fine print.
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Smarmy? Moi??? :) Just sorry to deprive all y'all of my adorable newborn self, of course!
Any of them show you naked, Jed???
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Oh yes, we can read the fine print, Mr. Guest!
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Oh, I'm sure there are a few of those in the box somewhere, TCB!
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The older readers probbaly have trouble witht he print Jed. I assume there are photos of you naked on a genuine bear skin rug. Which reminds me - I watched "Brother Bear" last night. I didn't realise it was a cartoon. I was expecting a NW version of "Queer As Folk".
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it was bound to happen sooner or later, so, sooner, here's td!
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I am afraid I shall be absent from this here site yet again this evening. I have a hot date in Seattle with Mr. Guest's personal favorite: The Divine Miss M.
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Had to do it sometime. Hope you can read the fine print.
Yegads. I feel like such.....an......amateur!
Kudos to you, Mr. Dear Reader Tomovoz!
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I am afraid I shall be absent from this here site yet again this evening. I have a hot date in Seattle with Mr. Guest's personal favorite: The Divine Miss M.
Good for you! She always puts on such a show! Have a blast, Dear Reader TCB!!!
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I assume there are photos of you naked on a genuine bear skin rug.
Well, ugly green carpet, anyway.
Which reminds me - I watched "Brother Bear" last night. I didn't realise it was a cartoon. I was expecting a NW version of "Queer As Folk".
Ha!!!
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Sounds like a wonderful evening in store, TCB. Have fun!
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TCB's comment was "tongue in cheek". I confess I not only do not have a recording (CD) by Judy but not by Bette either. Another problem with my genes I guess.
As Jay will no doubt know, I prefer to hear Della Reese singing "Don't You Know" etc. (I think my memory works on that one).
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Woohoo! Universal is releasing a second set of Ma and Pa Kettle DVDs and another set of Abbott and Costello DVDs, along with some assorted vintage westerns from the 40s and 50s. It is very nice to see them starting to release some of the oldies! I hope they continue this trend!
Are the first group of MA AND PA KETTLE films out (the one that will obviously contain THE EGG AND I)? I must have missed their release (I knew they were coming; I didn't know it had already happened). It'll be nice to get some of the early A&Cs too like HOLD THAT GHOST and WHO DONE IT and THE TIME OF THEIR LIVES (not an early one, but one of my favorites).
Universal is doing their monster series (FRANKENSTEIN, DRACULA, WOLF MAN) up in boxed sets, too, and I'll be glad to get the Dracula box since I only got my hands on the original (with the Spanish version included) and missed the sequels before they went out of print.
Looks like Warners and Universal are finally recognizing the worth of issuing their vault classics. (Now, if Universal will rediscover a little dimpled darling named Deanna Durbin, they can make me VERY happy.)
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Well, ugly green carpet, anyway.Ha!!!
I have a pic of me nekkid on ugly green linoleum...with a soup bowl on my head. I loved to get into cabinets, apparently.
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TCB's comment was "tongue in cheek". I confess I not only do not have a recording (CD) by Judy but not by Bette either. Another problem with my genes I guess.
As Jay will no doubt know, I prefer to hear Della Reese singing "Don't You Know" etc. (I think my memory works on that one).
Well at least one person got my--what I, at least, thought was an ever so clever--reference earlier today. Thanks, Tom!
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Has SILVERLAKE been issued as a CD? I have a swell duet early on in that, with mezzo Jane Shaulis. Julius Rudel let me take some liberties - how uncharacteristic of him!!!
Penny, there is a 1980 recording conducted by Julius Rudel with Joel Grey and the New York City Opera Orchestra and Chorus that was released on CD. Is this the recording that you're on, or is it too early a recording?
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And DR Jay being deprived (!) of the opera gen, I prefer Jackie Wilson's "Night" to "Softly Awakens My Heart". I think Perry had a bash at "Don't You Know" too. It is a beautiful melody.
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Back to today's topic. I love the Miguel Rios version of "Song Of Joy" (1970) and the Waldo de los Rios versions of "the classics" of about the same vintage. (eg Mozart Symphonia #40).
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Thanks for removing that Noel. I was having to read from my next door neighbour's house!
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Yegads. I feel like such.....an......amateur!
Kudos to you, Mr. Dear Reader Tomovoz!
I suppose, DR Jay, that our careers as international jewel thieves counts for nothing at this site?
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Thanks for removing that Noel. I was having to read from my next door neighbour's house!
Sorry, folks. The technology required to post a photo of me from the 70's is way beyond my ken.
Each prior attempt has sent us into cinemascope.
A song I like from back then is Gilbert O'Sullivan's Alone Again (Naturally)
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I watched HIT THE DECK this afternoon on laserdisc. Does anyone know if that's actually Russ Tamblyn's singing voice? I kind of doubt it even though the LP soundtrack album says it's Russ. It sounds more like Clark Burroughs who dubbed for Michael Kidd in IT'S ALWAYS FAIR WEATHER. Did Rhino do a soundtrack album that would identify the singer for certain?
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DR Matth, I am thinking that the first batch of Abbot and Costello and Ma and Pa Kettle's come out Feb. 10. which means I better get moving if I want to pre-order!! The next bactch are out in May.
I am also looking forward to the monster DVDs, especially the release of House of Dracula! I have Dracula and Dracula's Daughter already, but I guess I can take those into the store for trade when the set comes out.
What would really give me a thrill is if Universal would release some of there 1940s mysteries on DVD...MURDER IN THE BLUE ROOM, the INNER SANCTUM films, THE CRIMSON CANARY, THE CAT CREEPS, etc.
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"Hot Rocks" TCB. I could make a few comments about your fame but this is a family site.
I did rather like Donna Summer's "Hot Stuff". Of the disco music of the 70's I was partial to "Silver Convention", "Village People" and Boney M. Never really a Bee Gees fan. Also loved the Georgio Moroder "Chase" theme from "Midnight Express" (1979)
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I should investigate the Ma & Pa Kettle films on DVD (& the Abbot & Costello). They were much a part of my childhood when I would go to a movie matinee every Saturday in the 1950's. "Superman meets Spider Woman" and "Superman and Atom Man" Great serials - I may have the titles wrong. Also remember well "The Story Of Seabiscuit" from those days.
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I suppose, DR Jay, that our careers as international jewel thieves counts for nothing at this site?
Harry Winston, tell me all about it!
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I skipped Bette this time around. Instead of a theatre, she played Madison Square Garden and tickets were $200 or $250 each if you wanted to actually see her. There were cheaper seats, of course, but they were so far from the stage you would have had to watch it on the video screens and I prefer to see a live act live.
I have seen her many times before (although not recently) and the prices were always reasonable and in proper venues. Madison Square Garden is for sports and ice shows... not the divine one.
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I did a little research and found out Rex Dennis dubbed Russ Tamblyn in HIT THE DECK (and Clark Burroughs - the Michael Kidd dubber - for Russ in the "Hallalelujah" number).
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I can't post photos because I am in the Dark Ages when it comes to that kind of equipment. You'll just have to take my word for the fact that I have lots of cool photos of moi from the 70's -- none of them naked on a rug.
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Fellow Scribe Pogue - If I'm correct in remembering that you're writing Hercules, Robert Halmi mentions it in today's Variety (Army Archerd's column) as one of his upcoming projects.
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TD-cute pics
Noel it sounds as if you had the same problem I did. At least you did get a photo up. Nice picture but where is that great smile of yours?
While we are on the subject of photos, Matt, who was so brave to post first, I think you look better with the added weight.
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I didn't even know that Bette was coming to Seattle! I might've gone. But I have the Region 2 DVD to her "Divas Las Vegas" concert. I bought a converted copy from eBay (it was not very expensive) but being able to watch in on my very own region code-free DVD player is WONDERFUL.
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Panni, glad Mr. Halmi feels secure enough to mention it. I try to rarely mention anything lest it gets jinxed. I also rarely read the trades...unless I'm waiting in studio offices.
70's music...by the seventies I was firmly entrenched in show, film, big band, and what was already being called golden oldies music by then...so I never really found anything all that charming or memorable from the seventies pop/rock scene. Having seen the various song titles listed here today, I still don't...
But someone did mention Tom Waites and he was a worthy exception to the era. A true poet.
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Good evening all. Day 2 of the great diet and I can honestly say I have already lost weight! I haven’t cheated and can honestly say I feel full. I thought I’d be wanting to eat my desk by now but I’m fine.
We had a scare at work today. We kept hearing gun shots getting closer and closer. Then, we remembered it was just the Mayor of Tampa being kidnaped by pirates. Gasparilla and the State Fair start this weekend.
We also had a jumper at the University of Florida as well. I feel bad for anyone hurting that badly. I hope they managed to talk him/her down.
As far as songs from the 70's. I was your typical Osmonds/David Cassidy/Bobby Sherman fan.
Sorry but I don't have to many pictures. They got messed up when we had a hot water heater accident a couple of years back.
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Panni, Actually, the real reason I just don't like to talk about those things isn't the jinxing aspect as much as I what I consider Hollywood's worst habit. Talking their projects to death. You always hear these writers/actors/producers talking about this great script, this great audition, this great film. All these varied and sundry "great" projects, most of which never seem to bear any fruit. I try not gab about a job until the contract's signed and the money's in my fist, I try not to talk about a script until it's finished, I try not to talk about a film until it's in the can. I also know that many's the time I've been paid obscenely well for very good work that has never seen the light of day.
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But someone did mention Tom Waites and he was a worthy exception to the era. A true poet.
That would have been me, too. Once again, back on page one.
Waits is/was indeed a poet! Any doubt about that may be cleared up by one listen to his album "Closing Time." Of course his voice is something which is an acquired taste.
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TD-cute pics
Jnae, have you had your eyes checked lately? ? ? ::) ::) ::)
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I have to say that Ben Kingsley's character in HOUSE OF SAND AND FOG has more to do with GREEK TRAGEDY than with SHAKESPERIAN TRAGEDY. The idea of nobility vs.Outside forces leads me to believe this to be true.
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FS POGUE - I agree about not talking about upcoming projects, except to a very select few. People always wonder why I tend to be vague about what I'm working on, but, as you say (a) talking about it too much can jinx it and (b) more importantly, talking abut it can "talk it out."
I also rarely show my work-in-progress to anyone who is not intimately involved with it.
I only pointed out the Halmi reference because I know you're in the midst of rewrites and thought it would be a nice boost.
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I made the mistake of gabbing about the Meltz and Ernest movie and the Nudie stage version and I learned my lesson but good. The Meltz and Ernest producers were total flakes and they also flaked on Nudie. I have since been through one additional flake producer on Nudie, which I never once even brought up here at haineshisway.com, having learned my lesson with flake number one. When we're actually doing a reading or are in rehearsal, you'll hear about it. When and if Meltz and Ernest gets going again, and when it's before the cameras, you'll hear about it. And, other than the occasional "I must write" that's about all you're going to hear about the new thing I'm working on until I write the final chapter.
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I was way too big a geek in the '70's to listen to pop music radio. And actually, I'm still too big of a geek to listen to it today. That said, I must admit to being rather enamored of a few artists of the seventies. I rather enjoy the musical stylings of Frank Zappa, Randy Newman, Warren Zevon and Steely Dan quite a bit.
But I was more into Edgard Varese, Anton Webern, Arnold Schoenberg and Roger Sessions. God, I was such a nerd...I remember special ordering an LP of Sessions Second Symphony from Japan, and waiting five or six months for it to arrive. I really liked the album, even if it was in mono, and played it constantly for over a year.
So my favorite hit of the seventies was actually Roger Sessions' Second Symphony.
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td, I think Waites' voice goes with his poetry. They both sound like they've experienced life. I agree about Closing Time....And The Heart of Saturday Night, as well as a couple more of his early albums. Some of the stuff that he has been doing since Rain Dogs, while interesting, I don't really care for...But he's an artist always growing, always exploring...
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Waits is/was indeed a poet! Any doubt about that may be cleared up by one listen to his album "Closing Time." Of course his voice is something which is an acquired taste.
td, I think Waites' voice goes with his poetry. They both sound like they've experienced life. I agree about Closing Time....And The Heart of Saturday Night, as well as a couple more of his early albums. Some of the stuff that he has been doing since Rain Dogs, while interesting, I don't really care for...But he's an artist always growing, always exploring...
When I auditioned for the Western Washington music department, one of my two songs was Benjamin Britten's "The Ash Grove." The other song was Tom Waits' "A Foreign Affair" based on The Manhattan Transfer's a cappella version...and I also sang it a cappella (as a solo, of course). I was complimented on the unusual choice for an audition piece and got into the music department. Heidi Grant Murphy (then Heidi Lynn Grant) who sang the role of Johanna in the first concert of Sweeney Todd with Patti LuPone and George Hearn was at Western at that time and we had a couple of classes together! She probably doesn't even remember me. That was about 17 years ago.
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Penny, there is a 1980 recording conducted by Julius Rudel with Joel Grey and the New York City Opera Orchestra and Chorus that was released on CD. Is this the recording that you're on, or is it too early a recording?
that's the one!
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that's the one!
Cool! My library (where I work) doesn't have it, but I can try and get it through Interlibrary Loan. If I can, would you like a CD copy for yourself? Or does someone else (here at HHW) just happen to already have a copy of this?
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We must be on our dinner lull. Dessert is here, however, for the rest of the evening.
Based on several raves here I have a copy of The Triplets of Belleville on its way (a region 2 DVD) - should have it by Friday.
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For those of you who are Bollywood fans, I came across THIS ARTICLE (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3452819.stm) about "India's top film composer" AR Rahman, the man who wrote the music to Bombay Dreams which was produced by Andrew Lloyd Webber. It also mentions that he's writing the music for the £8m West End musical version of "The Lord of the Rings."
So, is he really "India's top film composer?"
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Good Evening!
Did BK mention dessert? Hmm... I just had one of those Chocolate Eclair ice cream bars. And a Strawberry Shortcake ice cream bar too. However, I did stop for some Chinese on my walk back from class tonight - Hot & Sour Soup and Hunan Beef. Yum! So, I didn't just have dessert - although I've done that before, and will most likely do it again sometime in the future. ;-)
DR Danise - Go! Go! GO! Good for you!! -And I hope my talk of dessert hasn't tempted you... The ice cream bars didn't taste that good anyway.... bleh!!! ::) ;)
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Well, it's official! The lovely wife, Julieanne, has today declared she loves WICKED! To prove it, she's been going around the house singing Popular all day.
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Based on several raves here I have a copy of The Triplets of Belleville on its way (a region 2 DVD) - should have it by Friday.
Add one more voice to the raving chorus...mine.
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Okay I have the new release of My Fair Lady and have been watching some of the extras that I have not seen before. One questoin what is it with the "time codes" that are visable in some of the extras? Did someone forget to get rid of them before the transfer???
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We must be on our dinner lull. Dessert is here, however, for the rest of the evening.
Based on several raves here I have a copy of The Triplets of Belleville on its way (a region 2 DVD) - should have it by Friday.
I found out today that I know the daughter of the performer of one of the songs on the film's soundtrack!!!
Okay... many degrees of separation I know, but we don't get all that many Oscar nominations here...
(now I realllllllyyyy have to get around to actually SEEING it!!!)
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Whence comes your triplets DVD BK? The French version (both 2DVD and single) are only in French.
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It comes whence from the UK, where it is called Bellevue-Rendezvous. Subtitled in English.
I think we've got us a quorum at the forum.
I don't know why there would be time codes on Fair Lady, unless they're demonstrating something from the restoration, and then there would be because they dumped it into the computer to work on it.
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Even though I won't formally announce it until tomorrow's notes, the Alet Oury interview is up - so if you're around and want to take a gander and post about it that would be swell. It's one of my favorites of all that we've done.
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Thanks BK. It will probably be thus titled here in OZ.
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Speaking of MY FAIR LADY, this is one for all of the techno geeks out there:
The transfer on the new 2 dvd set is the same print as the previous release, however, the Mbps are much higher. For instance, and I only compared the first two chapters, on the new disc, the Overture and Credits Chapter is transferred at a bit rate between 8.5 mbps and 10.0 mbps, whereas with the first release, that same chapter's transfer rate rarely gets up to 8 mbps, starting at a very low 5.5 mbps.
Like wise the Convent Garden scenes on the previous disc rarely rate a 7.5 mbps transfer rate, the new disc's rate begins with that 7.5 mbps.
This is what I get for having a "display" button on my dvd player's remote control, which tells me exactly what the transfer rate is. . .NOW, if someone could logically explain this whole Mega-Byte Per Second thing to me. . . .
I should think that a higher transfer rate would logically show a finer, more detailed picture. Am I on the right track here?
(Or should I go to Ascot, moving my bloomin' arse)?
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The transfer rate is higher because the extras are on the second DVD. Plus, everyone is doing higher bit rates these days. It does result in a SLIGHTLY better image, but I compared both discs and I just don't see much difference at all.
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The transfer rate is higher because the extras are on the second DVD. Plus, everyone is doing higher bit rates these days. It does result in a SLIGHTLY better image, but I compared both discs and I just don't see much difference at all.
I didn't see much difference either. . .and as for the nincompoops on the other less-popular sites than HHW, well, YOU (bk) know precisely how I feel about THEM!
I love THEM! It's a great movie, right up there with THE BEGINNING OF THE END!
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Oh, and I only picked up MFL becuase it was sooooo cheap at WalMart, where I was buying plate hangers.
At Barnes & Noble, however, I picked up THE GREAT ZIEGFELD and GASLIGHT (w/ 1940's ANGEL STREET, which bears the Americanized GASLIGHT title).
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Good to know td that you have not lost your ability to "pick up" in the real world too. I assume you took along those delightful photos from the 70's - or perhaps you still look like that. But how old is the great Ziegfeld and doesn't he play for the other team? Perhaps he looked younger under Gaslight.
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I think that BK should sue for plagiarism:
one of the unpopYOUlar dvd site's least-liked critics wrote (in his review of the new edition of PLANET OF THE APES):
Of the whole cast, special mention must go to the exceedingly lovely Linda Harrison as Nova. She ain't much of an actress, but wow - what a babe! Call me sexist if you'd like, but the absolute worst part about Apes stems from the fact we endure no fewer than two shots of Heston's bare butt but she shows no skin. Damn them - damn them all to hell!
Well, he can just go to Hartford, Hereford and Hampshire!
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One of the producers I was meeting with today was going on and on about THE TRIPLETS OF BELLEVILLE. Said it was great.
I'm SO tired. That's it for today. Work's over.
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Bk you have been leading me astray. BellVILLE led me to more positive results! Thanks again. I ordered.
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Good to know td that you have not lost your ability to "pick up" in the real world too. I assume you took along those delightful photos from the 70's - or perhaps you still look like that. But how old is the great Ziegfeld and doesn't he play for the other team? Perhaps he looked younger under Gaslight.
Ah, don't we all look younger under Gaslight? ? ?
When those photos were taken, the man had this strange black boxlike object stationed atop a spindly thing - it had three-legs - and when he took the picture, there was this FLASH ! BANG! and WALLOP! that I hadn't felt for years. . .
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Bk you have been leading me astray. BellVILLE led me to more positive results! Thanks again. I ordered.
Oh? As if it's difficult to led YOU astray?!?!?!?
;D
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Was the photographer Tommy Steele?
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Was the photographer Tommy Steele?
DAMN! You're good!
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We Tommys have been around. Since half a sixpence was worth half a sixpence in fact.
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Okay, this question goes out to all the techie-type people we have on this site. Although for the record this does not have to do with the site, and so I'm not gonna put on the technical board :)
So I finally got around to importing the tracks from my recital CD onto my computer, and I KNOW there's a way to make little clips of them, so I can send just a bit of a song to someone who wants to hear it, but I just don't know how...so any advice? help? wise words?
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Oh? As if it's difficult to led YOU astray?!?!?!?
;D
Leading me back to the righteous path is the challenge.
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Thank you, DR Jane. Yes, I was always self-conscious about being skinny when I was younger, so I don't mind weighing almost 50 pounds more than in those pictures, but I want the weight equally (or proportionally) distributed, and that's what I have to exercise, exercise, exercise to try to achieve. It's been a lifelong struggle.
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Leading me back to the righteous path is the challenge.
Yeah, but who would really want to go that route? I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints.
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When I auditioned for the Western Washington music department, one of my two songs was Benjamin Britten's "The Ash Grove." The other song was Tom Waits' "A Foreign Affair" based on The Manhattan Transfer's a cappella version...and I also sang it a cappella (as a solo, of course). I was complimented on the unusual choice for an audition piece and got into the music department. Heidi Grant Murphy (then Heidi Lynn Grant) who sang the role of Johanna in the first concert of Sweeney Todd with Patti LuPone and George Hearn was at Western at that time and we had a couple of classes together! She probably doesn't even remember me. That was about 17 years ago.
Miss Murphy will be appearing in two concerts (Mendelssohn's A Midsummer Night's Dream and Mahler's 2nd Symphony) at the Hollywood Bowl this summer. I'm hoping to catch both.
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Jay-
I have to say that Ben Kingsley's character in HOUSE OF SAND AND FOG has more to do with GREEK TRAGEDY than with SHAKESPERIAN TRAGEDY. The idea of nobility vs.Outside forces leads me to believe this to be true.
As you wish. At least people won't mistake House of Sand and Fog for Dude, Where's My Car?
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We must be on our dinner lull. Dessert is here, however, for the rest of the evening.
Based on several raves here I have a copy of The Triplets of Belleville on its way (a region 2 DVD) - should have it by Friday.
You are in for one spectacular treat, Dear BK.
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We heard some very good voices tonight on AMERICAN IDOL. Tomorrow night's elimination competition should be very, very good. I think all of the people I was rooting for have stayed in thus far.
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Ann: solution - give a copy of the Cd to JED and let him do the work.
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Whence comes your triplets DVD BK? The French version (both 2DVD and single) are only in French.
Yeah. Both lines of dialogue.
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Very very moving interview with Alet Oury. Read it, everybody!
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And at least I do have pictures from the 70s, unlike Ann, Laura II, Maya, Sarah, Emily, Andrea, et al.
I'm sure we have pictures of the twinkle in my father's eye.
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LOOK at this:
"Waitressing? As a career? Oh, my heavens, no, I'm an ACTRESS, you see, and although your head might be spinning watching me fill ketchup bottles, mix margaritas, and bang on the register/computer all at the same time, you must know that in MY head I'm playing the game "character asassination" and you have just been killed because - with a menu in your hand - you have asked me if we serve food."
I think I've found my non-marital soulmate.
There IS hope!!!
Go and read that interview, everybody...it's wonderful!
And I would post pictures of myself from the 70's, but I seem to have lost them. Let me go and photocopy some from my Sex Ed pamphlet, and I'll get back to you.
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I have been copying a DVD to Video today. "My House In Umbria". Has anyone else caught up with this little treasure? Maggie Smith is her usual, wonderful self. So much style.
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DR Jay. I guess the comment about the two lines of dialogue was funny - BK and I have yet to see the film. The 2 disc French DVD has quite a few extras I gather. Oh to be bilingual but I only play for one team.
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I caught up with City of God this evening Dear Readers. I certainly can see why it received its four Oscar nominations (direction, editing, cinematography and screenplay). It's a story of very violent and unpleasant business set in a hellish environment in Brazil, and the filmmakers succeed in gripping the audience's attention and creating for it two hours of non-stop queasiness. No one would mistake this one for Dude, Where's My Car? either.
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After the 2 references Jay, I must look out for the movie - last Brazilian movie I saw was the wonderful "Central Station" (?).
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To modify or not to modify that is the question.
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To modify or not to modify that is the question.
C'mon! Don't modify! Tell it like it is!
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DR Jay has already modified. I don't like to copy (well not so soon after). I think I just qualified instead.
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The jet lag got to me today and I'm very tired. I've been reading but not posting this evening. Think I had better get some sleep. Good night.
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Boy, was I in voice that day.
And then came: (Penny in the middle)
(http://www.webopus.net/orloff/images/Doll'sLife.gif)
To spy on Penny Click Here (http://www.webopus.net/orloff/singer.html)
der Brucer (wondering if the following data is current:
Bristol Riverside Theatre presents
Penny Orloff’s Solo Show
JEWISH THIGHS ON BROADWAY
Saturday, Feb. 21, 8 pm
Sunday, Feb. 22, 3 pm
120 Radcliffe St., Bristol, PA
If so Woody and I could easily drive up to applaud at appropriate times.
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Well, midnight in these parts, so I'll bid everyone a good night.
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For those of you who are Bollywood fans, I came across THIS ARTICLE (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3452819.stm) about "India's top film composer" AR Rahman, the man who wrote the music to Bombay Dreams which was produced by Andrew Lloyd Webber. It also mentions that he's writing the music for the £8m West End musical version of "The Lord of the Rings."
So, is he really "India's top film composer?"
Thanks for the link George. I have seen his name a lot and he might be one of the top film composers in Bollywood currently, but definately not top in Bollywood history.
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Alright DRLaura. Now it's YOUR turn!
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Although as Ben and Ant know, this is my favorite from that time.
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DR Jay. I guess the comment about the two lines of dialogue was funny - BK and I have yet to see the film. The 2 disc French DVD has quite a few extras I gather. Oh to be bilingual but I only play for one team.
Me too. I just got the Region 2 DVD of the live production of "Chess" performed entirely in Swedish...AND THERE ARE NO ENGLISH SUBTITLES! I have three recordings of the show but with all of the changes that have been made over the years, I can only guess what they're all really singing. There is also a 2nd disc with a documentary that's also in Swedish with no English subtitles, except Tim Rice speaks in English...well, I only watched the first 10 minutes or so. I don't know how much more is actually in English. Other than that, I really like what I've seen of the show. I hope that it does have a life past this...and in English.
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We call this my "Tiger Beat" photo. Yeah right! Me and David cassidy and Bobby Sherman!
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Wow, Kerry! I think I saw that guy in the pictures in a couple of Joe Gage's films!
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MY, how we change over the years, huh?
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td-- LOL
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We're certainly a brave lot here at HHW (Hint, hint, DRLaura).
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td-- LOL
Glad you got it!
. .and you still have it! ;)
Now, where are BK's 70s pix? ? ? ?
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What's even better is what the clever Ant and Ben did to the photo
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td, you certainly know what to say!!!!!
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Are we gonna see DearReader Laura's pix from the 70s, too? ? ?
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TD-- I want to see more of yours. Pictures, that is.
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Okay, now that I've seen the AFTER DARK cover. . .I don't think I can laugh any harder than I'm laughing right now. . .
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TD-- I want to see more of yours. Pictures, that is.
NO.
You don't.
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You must thank Ben and Ant for the laughs. The articles sound SO real.
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td--- YES, I do
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Same goes for Michael Barnum and Matt and Ben and all you others
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DRMusicGuy should post some of HIS 70's pictures!
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See you all in the morning.
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See you all in the morning
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td--- YES, I do
Kerry---
NO.
You DON'T.
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That "After Dark" cover is too damn funny! When I first started working for the library (19-1/2 years ago) I was the Storage Page and had to file books and magazines kept in storage...items that weren't needed in the general collection. Anyway, they had several years worth of "After Dark" magazines. I spent a lot of time (my own, I assure you) truly "finding myself" because of that magazine. When they decided to throw them out (almost a "New Brain" reference), I wasn't brave enough to take any. At the time, employees could take anything that had been discarded for booksale (or the dump) and we didn't have to pay for them! Now we have to actually go to where the booksales take place just like regular people (non-employees) to be able to get anything from a library booksale.
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George: I gave the "Chess" DVD to Colin for Christmas. He loves it and has watched it about six times. His Swedish does not really go past Volvo and Ikea. It is a stunnigngand certainly shows that "Chess" can work.
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Maggie Smith is her usual, wonderful self. So much style.
And can be a very, very, funny lady. Woody and I saw her in London in Peter Shaffer's "Lettuce and Lovage" and haven't laughed so hard since "Noises Off".
der Brucer (yearning to go back to London and do a week of theatre pig-out!)
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Why we've had a veritible posting frenzy going on. That is so lovely. Lovely is so that. Is that so lovely?
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Why we've had a veritible posting frenzy going on. That is so lovely. Lovely is so that. Is that so lovely?
Where in tarnation has BK been?
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I was hoping to get through this 1970s photo business unscathed as, mercifully, most of my "vintage" photos are hidden in the dark dank recesses of my closet. However, I did find this classic portrait circa 4rd grade, which would make this picture about 1973. Lots more hair and some very colorful clothing! I remember this shirt very well. I had a fringed vest that I often wore with it. Uhg!
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When I first started working for the library (19-1/2 years ago) I was the Storage Page
I assume "Storage Page" was an entry-level position - then you could work up to Index Page, Reference Page, and maybe even Title Page!
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Hey! MBarnum! You never told us you were on THE PARTRIDGE FAMILY with BK!
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For late night viewers:
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Why we've had a veritible posting frenzy going on. That is so lovely. Lovely is so that. Is that so lovely?
And you should see the parallel IMs flying about - scandalous I tell you, just scandalous!
der Brucer (Proud graduate of the School for Scandal)
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For late night viewers:
After the tornado hits, do we get color?
der Brucer (waiting for the cockatoo pix)
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After the tornado hits, do we get color?
der Brucer (waiting for the cockatoo pix)
Oh, I am SOOOOOO not going there! :-[
I AM going to bed.
Goodnight all you lovely people out there in the dark!
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A rerun of a photo from last year:
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The view is from where I am sitting at this moment.
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I still have two "homework" movies to watch. So good night, all.
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I'll have to leave it all to you Jed. Good night.
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Man, when people leave, they LEAVE. Well, maybe we'll have a few late-night denizens to keep me company. Still, our best day in ages.