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Title: WAXING NOSTALGIC
Post by: bk on November 12, 2005, 12:16:03 AM
Well, you've read the notes, you've waxed, you've waned, and now it is time for you to post until the cows come home - they're off getting waxed, as they don't wish to look unseemly in their new cow bikinis.
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Post by: bk on November 12, 2005, 12:17:03 AM
And the word of the day is: BELLICOSE!
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Post by: George on November 12, 2005, 12:46:31 AM
What did I used to do on Saturday mornings?  Basically, just watch TV.  My sister and I used to get up and make breakfast and eat in front of the TV on the floor.  We'd watch whatever was on, for the most part.  I don't remember if therer were any specific shows that we watched and loved, but that's what we did. :D
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Post by: George on November 12, 2005, 12:47:10 AM
And now...to sleep. 8)
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Post by: bk on November 12, 2005, 01:07:25 AM
And now - Dino at the piano.

I am not sleepy.
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Post by: elmore3003 on November 12, 2005, 04:43:52 AM
Good morning, all!  A morning in Toyland and an afternoon with Mario Frangoulis.   I just sent in my answers to the unseemly trivia quiz.  By George, I knew this one!

My childhood saturdays were quite similar to BK's:  my brother Tom and I would meet our cousins Judy and Jeanne at the Paramount Theatre and we'd while away the late morning and early afternoon with cartoons, a serial of which I don't recall ever seeing a beginning or conclusion in the series, and a movie.  Even if there were no extended kiddie matinee, which my memory recalls were sporadic events, Tom and I, usually with J&J, would still see the first screening on Saturday at the Paramount.  My only real memory of standing in line for a movie is waiting for DARBY O'GILL AND THE LITTLE PEOPLE.

After the matinee, we'd wander to Murphy's Five and Dime to look at the latest comic books and while away the time until my father, or uncle, came to take us home.  Murphy's, which had a great snack area with the best fountain Coke and hot dogs in my hometown, always smelled of freshly popped corn, and I can smell it as I type this.

I always liked the department stores best when they were festooned for the holidays:  all the vivid oranges and yellows for Halloween with stacked boxes of tacky Halloween costumes, the greens and reds for Christmas.

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Post by: MBarnum on November 12, 2005, 05:33:57 AM
Saturday mornings for me would be early up and cartoons on the TV. Around 10 am I would watch either a Bowery Boys movie, a sword and sandel film, or Abbott and Costello comedy, which ever was playing. Then at noon it was either either a sci-fi film on channel 2 or a horror film on channel 13!

The rest of the afternoon was spent playing with neighbor Scott or friends Teresa and Shannon.
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Post by: elmore3003 on November 12, 2005, 05:38:42 AM
Mikey!  What are you doing up so early?
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Post by: FJL on November 12, 2005, 05:51:37 AM
Elmore - I didn't know it immediately the way you did, but I got the main part of this trivia answer fairly easily, just after checking a few things out.  Everyone who enjoys theater trivia should try this one.  It was fun watching the pieces fall into place.  "Tough" enough to be fun, penetrable enough to be even more fun.
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Post by: FJL on November 12, 2005, 06:00:31 AM
Woody - If one of the boys is named Alex, be warned (or maybe prepared ina good way, depending) that the LAST STARFIGHTER leading character is named Alex, and the name is used a bit in the songs.  This could be great for self-esteem on the one hand, as he may love hearing his name in such a positive light - "Good old Alex" and "Go Alex" and such.  (However, I remember my own younger years - not that I was a typical kid :)  - not particularly liking my own name being repeated over and over in songs like "Do the Freddie" and "Freddy My Love."  So you may want to give tracks 2,4 and 15 a listen on your own first if there are even any remote name-sensitivity possibilities).
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Post by: Rodzinski on November 12, 2005, 06:00:39 AM
Like George, Saturday was all about the cartoons and kids shows on TV. Superfriends, Scooby Doo, Captain Caveman, the Schmoo, the Herculoids, whatever was on.

 I remember the pain of waking up too early when there were only public affairs shows on or religious shows. Then, of course, there were only a handful of channels to choose from.

At around noon, the cartoons usually dried up and it was time to go out and play.
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Post by: Rodzinski on November 12, 2005, 06:03:02 AM
I guess you can be glad you weren't a kid when the movie FREDDIE GOT FINGERED came out!
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Post by: FJL on November 12, 2005, 06:26:36 AM
Rodzinski - At that point, I actually had long since started to get a kick out of that kind of stuff - meaning the references, not necessarily the specifics. :)    
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Post by: Jrand73 on November 12, 2005, 07:56:30 AM
Good morning!

Saturdays for me when growing up also started out with cartoons.  But just a few, because then I would head off to church with my cousins to conduct a class for the wee ones.  We did this for many years, although it's not done anymore.  Just fun stuff.  Gave the parents Saturday morning to get stuff done.

Afternoon started with American Bandstand, then maybe a movie, and getting ready for Saturday NIGHT!!!  Roller skating or a drive in or a party.  We never wanted to stay home on Saturday night!

If course in the early 60's - Saturday Night at the Movies on NBC was pretty exciting!
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Post by: Jrand73 on November 12, 2005, 07:56:58 AM
Off to work.  Back tonight.  I hope we are EXTRA busy today to make the time pass quickly.
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Post by: Danise on November 12, 2005, 07:57:16 AM
Morning all!

I recognized Doodles Weaver in Christmas In Connecticut as well.

He was a wonderful actor.  Thanks for the story about him DR CP

Saturday was cartoon day for me as well and in the afternoon was Creature Feature with Dr. Paul Bearer ("I'll be lurking for yoooou!").

Dr Paul was who "sang" the songs that Vixmom spoke about last month.   I'm Holding Your Hand In Mine, Dear etc.  He would go to the music room in his castle and belt one out every once in awhile.  Of course I knew that he really wasn't the one singing.

It was ok to watch scary movies in the afternoon because you forgot about them by the time you went to bed that night.  So no nightmares!   :)

I'm having one of the "I can type, really I can" mornings!


Title: Re:WAXING NOSTALGIC
Post by: Danise on November 12, 2005, 08:06:01 AM
So DR's CP and Jrand, were you able to keep up with all the edits in that post?!
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Post by: bk on November 12, 2005, 08:16:08 AM
I was awakened MUCH too early by a telephonic ringing from a very wrong number.

Re Doodles Weaver - in his much later years he had a rather sweet but very large crush on Miss Cindy Williams.  He used to call me at the production office when we were prepping The Creature Wasn't Nice, and he'd talk to me at length and ask me to protect her and keep my eye on her.  Nothing creepy, just sweet.
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Post by: bk on November 12, 2005, 08:20:52 AM
I did not intend to be up this early, I intended to sleep in because I was up until two reading the Gower Champion book, which I'm in the midst of (in the Hello, Dolly chapter).  It's not the brilliant book people on the chat boards are trying to say it is - it's fine, well-written and well-researched, but there is a sameness thus far to all the sections about the shows.  Gower is cold, Gower is rigid, Gower is responsible for everything good.  What there isn't, thus far, is drama.  You want drama, read Writer's Block (those who've read it know that one of the characters is partly based on Mr. Champion).  With all the out-of-town tryouts and stuff, you want those stories to be told with a sense of drama, since they ARE dramatic.  So far, not in this book.  Maybe Steve Suskin's book Second Act Trouble (which is what Writer's Block is ALL about) will be more, how shall I say, fun.  Of course, it keeps getting pushed back by its publisher, and it doesn't seem like it will be out until January.
Title: Re:WAXING NOSTALGIC
Post by: bk on November 12, 2005, 08:21:06 AM
How can we still be on page one?
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Post by: bk on November 12, 2005, 08:21:21 AM
How can we STILL be on page one?
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Post by: bk on November 12, 2005, 08:21:35 AM
How CAN we still be on page one?
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Post by: bk on November 12, 2005, 08:21:49 AM
How can we still be on page ONE?
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Post by: bk on November 12, 2005, 08:22:16 AM
How can we still BE on page one?
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Post by: bk on November 12, 2005, 08:22:54 AM
Well, two more posts and I achieve my new plateau, but will my new plateau coincide with a page two appearance?
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Post by: bk on November 12, 2005, 08:23:23 AM
Well, let's just see - here it is, post number 16,000!
Title: Re:WAXING NOSTALGIC
Post by: bk on November 12, 2005, 08:23:35 AM
And no page two.
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Post by: bk on November 12, 2005, 08:25:17 AM
I see six count them six people sitting there like so much fish, watching me do a monologue whilst they sit on their butt cheeks twiddling their collective thumbs.
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Post by: Danise on November 12, 2005, 08:27:06 AM
I guess neither you, BK or DR CP have any Errol Flynn stories that he might have told you?  
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Post by: FJL on November 12, 2005, 08:27:06 AM
Just catching up a little.

Congrats on your Sweet 16,000.
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Post by: Ginny on November 12, 2005, 08:28:53 AM
'morning!

TOD - The Saturdays for which I wax most nostalgic are home game days in Ann Arbor, 1968-72.  After a late breakfast/early lunch, I'd make my way by bus from North Campus, where I lived, to Central Campus, where most of my friends lived.  From there, we'd join the throngs walking down State Street to Michigan Stadium (we never called it "The Big House" - I think ABC-TV made that up), arriving at Hoover Ave. in time to follow the marching band.  A highlight of the pre-game show was the drum major who could do a back-bend and touch the top of his (now, sometimes, her) hat to the ground.  My parents had season tickets to the games, too, so at half-time I'd go visit them and have a taste of whatever beverage they'd smuggled in.  Of course, in my memory the sky was always blue and the temperature moderate.  In reality, the weather was often miserable - UM/OSU 1969 it rained crushed ice!

After the game, I'd either go somewhere with my parents or back to my residence hall with my roommate, where we'd crash and watch the Saturday evening lineup that included  The Mary Tyler Moore Show and Mannix.
Title: Re:WAXING NOSTALGIC
Post by: FJL on November 12, 2005, 08:29:07 AM
Terribly nervous about approaching post number 666 - but it is coming up for me.
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Post by: Danise on November 12, 2005, 08:29:22 AM
I've got to go put that stupid dog house back in the box and take it back to Walmart.  Have you ever noticed that when you take something out of a box, it's near impossible to put it back?  

I'm dreading it.  Sigh.  
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Post by: FJL on November 12, 2005, 08:30:17 AM
How about a "sweet 16,000" page two dance for BK.
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Post by: Danise on November 12, 2005, 08:30:54 AM
Laters!
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Post by: Ginny on November 12, 2005, 08:30:57 AM
Page 2, Go Blue, dance:

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Post by: Danise on November 12, 2005, 08:33:11 AM
How about a "sweet 16,000" page two dance for BK.

I don't dance so good but I'll supply the band!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v373/DofB5/cantinabandf.gif)
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Post by: S. Woody White on November 12, 2005, 08:39:26 AM
Good morning, all!  A morning in Toyland and an afternoon with Mario Frangoulis....
I'm gonna tell Brent you're flirting behind his back!!!

 ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: S. Woody White on November 12, 2005, 08:54:15 AM
Woody - If one of the boys is named Alex, be warned (or maybe prepared in a good way, depending) that the LAST STARFIGHTER leading character is named Alex, and the name is used a bit in the songs....
I don't think there should be a problem.  He's very self-assured, to the point of being cocky.  Regularly gets straight A's at school (third grade).  The only problem would be with any of that mushy stuff with girls, which he doesn't really "get" yet.

One of our goals is to get the grandlads more exposure to stories and music.  That's why we are thinking Last Starfighter would be a good show for them to get to know; the big problem is that the booklet doesn't include the lyrics.  (I know, I know, BK, it can't be done every time because of space and budget limitations, and I understand that.)  So, if we introduce them to the film first, hopefully they'll get into the story, which can lead into the musical.  Then, we can play the disc in the car any time they are with us and ask for it.

We may have to keep it from Mommy, though.  Since so much of the story takes place in a trailer park, which thinks she's above (and so isn't), she might have objections.   :-\
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Post by: Danise on November 12, 2005, 08:59:22 AM
Just popping back by to show you how long it took me to take that piece of crap apart AND get it back in the box.

Now to load it in Bonnie and hie it back down to Walmart!
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Post by: JMK on November 12, 2005, 09:01:24 AM
I will be E&T today because it is the Fall/Winter Tigard Pops Choir concert.  I am very proud of this group, which is open to the public and does not require an audition.  All of our arrangements are originals (no store-bought music, in other words), and we bite off a rather eclectic bunch o'music to chew each session.  This concert will feature original arrangements of everything from "Blue Suede Shoes" to "Grateful" to "100 Years," as well as several originals by moi.

Personal stupidity department:  I realized yesterday after I placed my DDD sale order that I purchased Lubitsch's Trouble in Paradise (Criterion), even though I already have it.  Does anyone here want it for cost (I think it was $23 after sale price).  I will kick in postage myself.  Let me know via email or PM.

Also could someone help me with some brain death, please?  ;)  I could have sworn Hitchcock's Lifeboat was already out on DVD in one of those previously released boxed sets, but when I checked my shelves yesterday, I couldn't find it.  Maybe I had it on VHS, though I could swear I remember watching a doc about it, but I may be confused.  Did anything else previously unreleased (aside from the re-done Vertigo) come out in that new boxed set?  I have all the previously released boxed sets (3 of them) and don't want to duplicate, so I'll probably buy single titles.

I'll catch up this morning until I have to leave and then again tonight.  Send good singing vibes our way!  ;)
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Post by: MBarnum on November 12, 2005, 09:02:17 AM
Mikey!  What are you doing up so early?

For some reason I woke up at 5:00 am. Decided to get up and read newspaper, check HHW, and have couple cups of coffee...the slipped back into bed for another few hours!

I guess it was just TOO early to get up!
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Post by: Michael on November 12, 2005, 09:06:34 AM
I like to write out and diagram the trivia question which is always a big help and in doing so I can in this case tracked down the answer.

And in doing so I found another interesting bit of trivia which I shared with BK and will reveal on Tuesday.
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Post by: Michael on November 12, 2005, 09:07:06 AM
And it is noon time here on the east coast. where has the day gone??
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Post by: Michael on November 12, 2005, 09:08:44 AM
Maybe Steve Suskin's book Second Act Trouble (which is what Writer's Block is ALL about) will be more, how shall I say, fun.  Of course, it keeps getting pushed back by its publisher, and it doesn't seem like it will be out until January.

No wonder I couldn't find the book in the store. I hope it doesn't go the way of Mario Bravo bio and we still have to wait 5 years later.
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Post by: S. Woody White on November 12, 2005, 09:14:11 AM
Well, ain't this the pits!  I was going to suggest a gift for our esteemed BK's sweet 16M, but it turns out that sixteen doesn't have a traditional anniversary association (http://www.chipublib.org/008subject/005genref/giswedding.html).  We go from 10 being tin, 11 is steel, 12 is silk, 13 lace, 14 ivory, and 15 is crystal.  But then the traditional list jumps to 20 (china), skipping 16 through 19 altogether.  It's like the honeymoon is supposed to be over at that point.

Sure, I guess the non-traditional suggestion of "silver holloware" (whatever that is) is there, but if you're a traditionalist, this is the pits!

 :P
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Post by: S. Woody White on November 12, 2005, 09:15:32 AM
I like to write out and diagram the trivia question which is always a big help and in doing so I can in this case tracked down the answer.

And in doing so I found another interesting bit of trivia which I shared with BK and will reveal on Tuesday.
Are you also a Sudoku (http://www.websudoku.com/) addict?
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Post by: JMK on November 12, 2005, 09:19:26 AM
Are you also a Sudoku (http://www.websudoku.com/) addict?

DS Betsy is!
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Post by: elmore3003 on November 12, 2005, 09:33:14 AM
I'm gonna tell Brent you're flirting behind his back!!!

 ;D ;D ;D

Brent Barrett?  He already knows.
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Post by: bk on November 12, 2005, 09:34:51 AM
This is Lifeboat's first release on DVD.

I don't think any of the titles in the new Hitch set are available seperately - however, if you have the three previous sets, you've got everything except the "bonus" disc, which, unfortunately, is a bit of a joke.
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Post by: elmore3003 on November 12, 2005, 09:44:45 AM
No wonder I couldn't find the book in the store. I hope it doesn't go the way of Mario Bravo bio and we still have to wait 5 years later.

I had an email from Steve saying it would be out in January.
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Post by: bk on November 12, 2005, 09:52:46 AM
The author of the Gower book completely glosses over the whole Bob Merrill business in Dolly.  He mentions him, but implies he just gave suggestions.  Then, later, he says that Herman AND Merrill worked together and wrote Elegance and Motherhood.  

He mentions Strouse and Adams and says Gower hated their Parade song, but fails to mention that, if I'm remembering correctly, that the title, Before The Parade Passes By, was theirs.  Does anyone remember if that's true?
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Post by: George on November 12, 2005, 10:07:50 AM
I just sent in my answers to the unseemly trivia quiz.  By George, I knew this one!

Don't blame me!  I had nothing to do with this!  Honest! ;)
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Post by: George on November 12, 2005, 10:16:43 AM
Well, let's just see - here it is, post number 16,000!

Congratulations!  And I only have 10,361 more posts (including this one) till I catch up! ;D
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Post by: George on November 12, 2005, 10:19:41 AM
And now I must be going.  I have to FedEx a package to our very own BK and I have to build some sort of wishing well for a going away party at work on Monday. :P Why did I agree to this ???
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Post by: elmore3003 on November 12, 2005, 10:21:52 AM
Don't blame me!  I had nothing to do with this!  Honest! ;)

It's always DRJose's fault.  EVERYTHING IS DR JOSE'S FAULT!! That alone lets you off the hook.

Dear Friend BK, in the  Jerry Herman book by Stephen Citron a letter from Charles Strouse giving Herman full credit for "Parade" is reprinted.  Citron makes no mention of Strouse & Adams coming up with the title, and he says the first eight lines of "Elegance" are by Merrill and the rest by Herman.  "Motherhood March" is a bit vaguer, but he notes that it was Herman who requested it not be in the film.
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Post by: elmore3003 on November 12, 2005, 10:23:56 AM
And now I must be going.  I have to FedEx a package to our very own BK and I have to build some sort of wishing well for a going away party at work on Monday. :P Why did I agree to this ???
DRGeorge, I wish you'd find another avatar.  The one you're using now scares the hell out of me!   ;D

I, of course, have no options.
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Post by: JMK on November 12, 2005, 10:26:56 AM
I wish you'd find another avatar.  The one you're using now scares the hell out of me!  I, of course, have no options.

Oh, but you do.  Search my posts for the "Separated at Birth" pictures I posted of you and the late Chief Justice Rehnquist (or however the hell his name was spelled).   ;D
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Post by: elmore3003 on November 12, 2005, 10:30:50 AM
Oh, but you do.  Search my posts for the "Separated at Birth" pictures I posted of you and the late Chief Justice Rehnquist (or however the hell his name was spelled).   ;D

I'm much prettier!  And liberal.  And nice.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 12, 2005, 10:39:01 AM
I'm up and have been out to the Safeway and am now back.

I have chicken breasts smothered in onions and mesquite barbecue sauce cooking in one crockpot and a roast smothered in onions and mushroom soup cooking in another crockpot.

Safeway stunned me today with its beef prices.  I got two nice roasts for under $5.00 each ($1.99/lb...Rancher's Choice brand).  That special is only for club card holders.  The prices are more than double without the card.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 12, 2005, 10:40:51 AM
The day here in Oakland is too gorgeous to be true.

The sky is blindingly blue.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 12, 2005, 10:41:46 AM
Terribly nervous about approaching post number 666 - but it is coming up for me.
Don't give it a thought...just post "..and one to grow on" immediately afterward and the nervousness will dissipate instantly.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 12, 2005, 10:42:46 AM
This vast day looms before me.

So much to do,
so little motivation.

I need to clean.

I need to listen to CDs.

I need to watch DVDs.

I need to read.

I need HELP!
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Post by: JMK on November 12, 2005, 10:44:22 AM
I'm much prettier!  And liberal.  And nice.

And alive!   ;D
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 12, 2005, 10:44:38 AM
rrrrrrrrrrrrrrererererererer45
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 12, 2005, 10:44:55 AM
I don't know what that means...it just jumped out of my hand and onto the screen.
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Post by: JMK on November 12, 2005, 10:46:32 AM
Off to gesticulate wildly in front of 40-odd singers (not to be confused with 40 odd singers).  Some people call it choral directing.


Choral directing joke:


How many choral directors does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

No one knows, because no one's watching.

Later(s).
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 12, 2005, 10:49:53 AM
When I was in the Navy, I was designated a Journalist (3221), which mean I was trained as a print journalist/public affairs specialist and as a broadcaster.

It was my strong believe that if you put all the journalists (print/PA) in the armed forces in one room, only half would leave alive.

If you put all the broadcast journalists in one room, no one would be left standing.

Such were the ego trips....
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Post by: elmore3003 on November 12, 2005, 10:51:10 AM
And alive!   ;D

I am?  You call this living?
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Post by: Jane on November 12, 2005, 11:03:50 AM
Thanks Jennifer.  It should all work out, with more time and money. ::)

Cillaliz, I’m sure you are going to like NetFlix.
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Post by: Cillaliz on November 12, 2005, 11:32:06 AM

Dear Friend BK, in the  Jerry Herman book by Stephen Citron a letter from Charles Strouse giving Herman full credit for "Parade" is reprinted.  Citron makes no mention of Strouse & Adams coming up with the title, and he says the first eight lines of "Elegance" are by Merrill and the rest by Herman.  "Motherhood March" is a bit vaguer, but he notes that it was Herman who requested it not be in the film.

I heard a Carol Channing interview recently where she said that Jerry Herman wrote "Parade" for her one night when Dolly was in previews on the road somewhere (I don't remember that part very well), anyway they were in the same hotel and he called her in the middle of the night to come down and sing it as he had just finished it . She said she believed it was the backbone of Dolly's character and tied the whole show together.   I don't remember who interviewed her, it was on XM and I was on the road.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on November 12, 2005, 11:48:57 AM
TOD:  My Saturday mornings also usually started with cartoons or old "B" cowboy movies before the folks were up.  There were also the cowboy shows like Buffalo Bill, Jr., Annie Oakley; Sky King (which I never much cared for).  

As I got older, there were Saturday music lessons for me, my brother, and sister at Wurlizter's (or was it Willis'?  Wurlizter, I'm pretty sure) Music Store.  I took guitar lessons from Mr. Crady.  A half hour lesson cost $2.50.  Mr. Crady occasional subbed in the Ruth Lyons Band on TV's 50-50 Club (I have no idea why it was called the 50-50 Club).

My father usually took us and then went down the block to his office at Shillito's where he worked as an architect for Federated Department Stores.  He either would meet us at the end of the lessons or we would go down to Shillito's and met him there.  That way I got to look through the record department.

Once home, we had lunch and all watched the Bugs Bunny Cartoon Show.  My father watched with us.   After lunch, the local station channel 9 used to run a Tarzan movie, which I watched religiously.  And I usually watched whatever movie they ran after that.  It was those Saturday afternoons that got me hooked on old movies from the thirties and forties.

I have only one vivid memory of going to a triple feature kiddie matinee on Saturday...with cartoons and what-not.  It was at the Hiland Theatre in the center of town in Fort Thomas, Kentucky, and the bill was Tarzan the Ape-man with my now-pal Denny Miller, Sabu and the Magic Ring, and Tarzan's Greatest Adventure with Gordon Scott.
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Post by: Michael on November 12, 2005, 11:55:02 AM
It's always DRJose's fault.  EVERYTHING IS DR JOSE'S FAULT!! That alone lets you off the hook.

Dear Friend BK, in the  Jerry Herman book by Stephen Citron a letter from Charles Strouse giving Herman full credit for "Parade" is reprinted.  Citron makes no mention of Strouse & Adams coming up with the title, and he says the first eight lines of "Elegance" are by Merrill and the rest by Herman.  "Motherhood March" is a bit vaguer, but he notes that it was Herman who requested it not be in the film.

In the Lyrics of Jerry Herman, the lyrics to Motherhood and Elegance are not included as they are by Merrill. If Herman had written any of Elegance I am sure the lyrics would have been included.

As for Strouse and Adams and the parade number what I heard is that they did write the song, but Champion didn't like it and Herman reworked it. Possibly with new music and/or lyrics.

As for Motherhood, I dislike the song. They only song I skip over when listening to the score.

And while on the subject of Hello, Dolly and Herman he wrote a song that was used in the Harmonia Garden scene called Come Be My Butterfly and sometime after the show opens it was replaced by The Polka Contest.

Has anyone ever heard the song and know why it was dropped?
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Post by: TCB on November 12, 2005, 11:55:28 AM
Ah yes, Heckel & Jeckel and Mighty Mouse on Saturday mornings.  But first we had a local program called Telladventure Tales hosted by Ruth Prins.  On weekdays, Ms. Prins was known to Northwest children as Wunda Wunda, the host of her own children's show.  On Saturday morning you could see Wunda Wunda minus her clown make-up, which was probably the only draw this storytelling show ever had.  After the cartoons, there were episodes of Sky King, Fury, and sometimes The Three Stooges to keep us entertained while we ate our Cocoa Puffs.
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Post by: Michael on November 12, 2005, 11:58:10 AM
I heard a Carol Channing interview recently where she said that Jerry Herman wrote "Parade" for her one night when Dolly was in previews on the road somewhere (I don't remember that part very well), anyway they were in the same hotel and he called her in the middle of the night to come down and sing it as he had just finished it . She said she believed it was the backbone of Dolly's character and tied the whole show together.   I don't remember who interviewed her, it was on XM and I was on the road.

The story is also told in PBS Broadway documentary. I take it with a grain salt. Afterall Hello, Dolly borrowed liberally from another song called Sunflower. Herman was sued and shares the royalities for the song with the composer of Sunflower which if I remember correctly is Mack David.
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Post by: Matt H. on November 12, 2005, 12:15:08 PM
Well, I'm back from my overnight trip and have caught up with the posts. I have to say that I like my own house, my own bed, my own food, my own LIFE.

But I'm grateful to have friends who will let me share a little of their food, homes, beds, and lives from time to time.
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Post by: Matt H. on November 12, 2005, 12:21:43 PM
Yes, the LIFEBOAT DVD isn't in a boxed set of Hitchcock titles because it was a 20th Century-Fox film, not one controlled by either Warners in their box or Universal in theirs.
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Post by: Matt H. on November 12, 2005, 12:27:48 PM
Just like others of my generation who post here, Saturday morning was for cartoons like HECKEL AND JEKYL and MIGHTY MOUSE and old reruns of nighttime adventure serials like FURY and SKY KING and ROY ROGERS. THE BUGS BUNNY SHOW was a favorite and so was THE ALVIN SHOW for some of those years.

In the afternoon, we'd go to whatever theater was showing a sci-fi monster movie or Martin & Lewis or occasionally something like GIDGET. There were also double or triple features with cartoons or serials (don't remember newsreels but they may have been there), and we'd just go into the theater at any time, never noting when a movie started or stopped from the newspaper. We'd just go in, see everything they had to offer, and if we came in late to the first feature, watch it until we got to the part where we came in! Amazing that we did that then.

And bk is right: you could stay and watch all day and night until the place closed on one admission. That's how I saw SLEPPING BEAUTY twice on Saturday and twice on Sunday the weekend it opened in my town.
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Post by: elmore3003 on November 12, 2005, 12:33:31 PM
In the Lyrics of Jerry Herman, the lyrics to Motherhood and Elegance are not included as they are by Merrill. If Herman had written any of Elegance I am sure the lyrics would have been included.

And while on the subject of Hello, Dolly and Herman he wrote a song that was used in the Harmonia Garden scene called Come Be My Butterfly and sometime after the show opens it was replaced by The Polka Contest.

Has anyone ever heard the song and know why it was dropped?

According to Stephen Citron's  JERRY HERMAN: POET OF THE SHOWTUNE (Yale University Press, 2004) there are several important quotes:
  "Mordden again mistakenly writes "Charles Strouse and Lee Adams wrote "Before the Parade Passes By' which Herman rewrote."
 
Citron also claims that Steve Suskin's comment that Strouse's unused song had the same title is incorrect.

As to "Elegance," Mr Citron quotes Mr Herman: "Bob gave me the first eight bars of 'Elegance' and those opening lines.  Then he left me to write rest of the song. . . I think of 'Elegance" as a fifty-fifty job even though I get no ASCAP royalties for the song.  David Merrick insisted on giving my royalties to Merrill, now the Merrill estate."

Citron says Mordden's other error is to credit Merrill as sole author for both numbers.

I have a copy of the Butterfly number which was set into type for the published vocal score.  The first national tour for Mary Martin replaced the number with the polka contest.  Joel Craig, the original dance captain, told me that the alteration so pleased everyone that special rehearsals were called to put the change into the Broadway production.
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Post by: Matt H. on November 12, 2005, 12:36:51 PM
As for WALKING ACROSS EGYPT that I saw last nigh,. as I said earlier this week, I knew absolutely nothing about this show. I had not read the novel. I hadn't seen the Ellen Burstyn film based on it. I had never read the play script.

The show is a regional (Southern) comedy-drama featuring the eccentric characters steeped in that old time religion and where it's supposed to make people laugh when a proper grandmotherly-like character asks a 47 year old man who's dating her daughter if his sperm is intact. Makes STEEL MAGNOLIAS seem like Chekhov.

In other words, this kind of show is not my cup of tea at all though I could find no fault with the production either technically or artistically. Everyone was well cast and did his part well, and the set was superb.

But that's one show I never wish to revisit.
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Post by: Matt H. on November 12, 2005, 12:38:43 PM
Since I had no lunch, I'm off now to have my only meal of the day.

WBBL.
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Post by: Jed on November 12, 2005, 12:46:17 PM

Choral directing joke:


How many choral directors does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

No one knows, because no one's watching.

 ;D
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Post by: Tomovoz on November 12, 2005, 01:50:46 PM
We did not have TV in Australia until 1956 and I guess probably not for a few years later at home.
My Saturday mornings would have been spent doing chores: bringing in firewood, ploughing the fields, branding the kangaroos and milking the emus. In those days was of course the family consisted of  that old mule, Old Rivers and Me.

Saturday afternoons were at the matinee in the town hall (Picture theatre): "Supeman meets Spider Lady" etc.

Evenings would have been spent listening to programmes on the wireless.
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Post by: elmore3003 on November 12, 2005, 01:57:19 PM
In the Lyrics of Jerry Herman, the lyrics to Motherhood and Elegance are not included as they are by Merrill. If Herman had written any of Elegance I am sure the lyrics would have been included.

DRMichaelShayne, I sent your question to Ken Bloom, co-author of the Jerry Herman lyrics book.  He says the songs were not included since they had been co-written.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 12, 2005, 02:24:09 PM
We did not have TV in Australia until 1956 and I guess probably not for a few years later at home.
My Saturday mornings would have been spent doing chores: bringing in firewood, ploughing the fields, branding the kangaroos and milking the emus. In those days was of course the family consisted of  that old mule, Old Rivers and Me.

Saturday afternoons were at the matinee in the town hall (Picture theatre): "Supeman meets Spider Lady" etc.

Evenings would have been spent listening to programmes on the wireless.

But...but...what on earth did growing Aussie boys do for FUN?
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 12, 2005, 02:28:30 PM
It has been four hours since putting the chicken/bbq sauce in one crockpot and the rump roast/mushroom soup in another crockpot.

The condo smells absolutely scrumptious!
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 12, 2005, 02:30:22 PM
I've spoken with my mom today, and we've planned a bit of my trip back to South Carolina, establishing some comings-and-goings and deciding who we'd invite to go with us.

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Post by: Tomovoz on November 12, 2005, 02:30:52 PM
But...but...what on earth did growing Aussie boys do for FUN?
This is a Family friendly site DR Ron.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 12, 2005, 02:33:12 PM
I also have watched "Christmas in Connecticut" today on DVD.

I just love this film...primarily for Stanwyck and Sakall, but also because it is so improbably presented that it works beautifully.

And for the first time ever, I've seen the original intro, as my VHS copy never had the opening WB logo, the traditional WB fanfare and  the "invitation" teaser before the title -- at least, not that I can recall.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 12, 2005, 02:34:29 PM
This is a Family friendly site DR Ron.

I guess I'll simply have to use my imagination then...
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Post by: Matthew on November 12, 2005, 02:35:03 PM
Been listening to "The Likes of Us" the first musical written, but never produced, by Andrew Lloyd Webber and Tim Rice.  One would suspect it would be filled with ALW melodies we've heard before, he even mentions that he has re-used two melodies since writing the score.  Since the overture, I've heard 3!   Quite a feast for the ALW fan.
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Post by: Matthew on November 12, 2005, 02:35:33 PM
Page 4 dance.... I won't dance, don't ask me.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 12, 2005, 02:36:15 PM
Saturday morning TV -- not always on the same schedule, but on Saturdays over time:

Fury
Sky King
Wild Bill Hickock
Annie Oakley
Sgt. Preston of the Yukon

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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 12, 2005, 02:37:10 PM
Page 4 dance.... I won't dance, don't ask me.

I won't...and don't you ask me, either!
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Post by: George on November 12, 2005, 02:42:13 PM
Been listening to "The Likes of Us" the first musical written, but never produced, by Andrew Lloyd Webber and Tim Rice.  One would suspect it would be filled with ALW melodies we've heard before, he even mentions that he has re-used two melodies since writing the score.  Since the overture, I've heard 3!   Quite a feast for the ALW fan.

I ordered this but it hasn't arrived yet.  Maybe it'll come today. :D
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Post by: Matthew on November 12, 2005, 02:44:10 PM
3 melodies, and one "borrowed" I believe from RIchard Rogers, I can't tell. but it's not ALW.  
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Post by: George on November 12, 2005, 02:50:10 PM
I'm off again, this time to my sister's.  Our mother is supposed to be coming over to visit.  Be back later. :)
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Post by: Ginny on November 12, 2005, 02:54:40 PM
 :P I've been lying on the couch all afternoon with one of those sick sinus headaches.  Dozed through most of the Michigan game, waking up in the 4th quarter to find The Blue so far ahead that the reserves were playing.  I'm back up and about, but not ready to perform cartwheels or anything.
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Post by: bk on November 12, 2005, 02:56:45 PM
Welcome nine GUESTS.

Hey, Matthew, weren't you going to write an amazon review?
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Post by: bk on November 12, 2005, 03:00:38 PM
The Citron letter, which I hadn't seen, is interesting, but who knows?  I, of course, based my info on the contract, wherein the royalties for Motherhood and Elegance are completely Merrill's.  I'd always heard that Strouse and Adams wrote a song no one liked, but that the title Before the Parade Passes By was theirs.  But, these things could be entirely false and just stories passed down through the years.  That said, if Merrill gave him the first eight of Elegance, then he basically gave him most of the song and form.
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Post by: Matthew on November 12, 2005, 03:10:28 PM
Welcome nine GUESTS.

Hey, Matthew, weren't you going to write an amazon review?

I was, I am... just having a bit of a hard time wording it.  I'll work on it, promise :)
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Post by: William F. Orr on November 12, 2005, 03:37:49 PM
Anybody here remember radio? (Oh, a Stan Freberg reference!)

Saturday mornings were "Let's Pretend" and "Big John and Sparky", with a theme song by DR Jason's ancestor, if I remember correctly.

Ah, but evenings, as my brother and I drifted off to sleep:  "Fibber McGee and Molly", "The Great Guildersleeve".

And Sunday evening was a special treat:  Johnny Dollar, the Insurance Investigator with the Action-Packed Expense Account.  Now why didn't that one make it to television?  

"Our Miss Brooks" did, and "Father Knows Best", and "Gunsmoke", albeit without William Conrad, who was deemed too fat to be an action hero (but he had the last laugh) and Chester Proudfoot on radio became Chester Good on television.

Not to mention "The Inner Sanctum"-- scary!  Many of the shows were by Ray Bradbury, I learned later.
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Post by: Matthew on November 12, 2005, 03:39:31 PM
Review submitted.
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Post by: Michael on November 12, 2005, 04:13:14 PM
I have a copy of the Butterfly number which was set into type for the published vocal score.  The first national tour for Mary Martin replaced the number with the polka contest.  Joel Craig, the original dance captain, told me that the alteration so pleased everyone that special rehearsals were called to put the change into the Broadway production.

So why was it changed for the Mary Martin Viet Nam/London tour?
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Post by: Michael on November 12, 2005, 04:18:49 PM
A shot (cropped) from Night Visitor
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Post by: MBarnum on November 12, 2005, 05:22:00 PM
My Bollywood movie of the weekend is PYAR KIYA TO DARNA KYA (1967) a charming little film about a young couple who fall in love but their family, or families, object...of course this same plot is played out in thousands and thousands of Bollywood movies...only the actors are different...and sometimes even they aren't!

Starring Shammi Kapoor, Saroja Devi, Pran, Helen, and Prithviraj Kapoor.

(http://66.223.111.68/dvdImages/b5364.jpg)

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Post by: td on November 12, 2005, 05:37:57 PM
But...but...what on earth did growing Aussie boys do for FUN?
They ran around mountain tops with their ex-postulant governess and their five siblings, do re mi-ing all over the neighborhood.   ;)
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Post by: TPunk on November 12, 2005, 05:50:11 PM
Are you also a Sudoku (http://www.websudoku.com/) addict?

I love Su Doku. Sometimes Rodzinski and I have Su Doku challenges.  And all of my coworkers are into it too.
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Post by: Jrand73 on November 12, 2005, 05:51:42 PM
DR ELMORE guess who was in my mailbox when I finally got home from the bookstore?

Sr. Mario Fangoulis.

It should be against the law to look like that and be able to sing like that.  I got the SOMETIMES I DREAM CD - and well.....it's purty durn good.

He sings in some furren language, but it sounds okey doke.

This one stays on top of the CD stack.
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Post by: Jrand73 on November 12, 2005, 05:52:28 PM
I shall try the trivia question tomorrow evening....I think I have AN IDEA!
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Post by: Jrand73 on November 12, 2005, 05:52:52 PM
Hijo de la luna :)
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Post by: Tomovoz on November 12, 2005, 05:54:59 PM
They ran around mountain tops with their ex-postulant governess and their five siblings, do re mi-ing all over the neighborhood.   ;)
I spent many mornings counting raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens. But oh those curtains!
(I decided not to mention packages tied up with string.  Better left to others)
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Post by: JoseSPiano on November 12, 2005, 05:58:56 PM
Good Evening!

Well... Even after getting to bed a bit earlier than usual last night, it was still a bit of a chore getting up this morning.  I ended up hitting the snooze alarm about 7 times - in other words, for just about an hour.  And by the time my feet finally hit the floor, I had to sort of rush through my breakfast, and then race through my morning ablutions.  But at least I made it to rehearsal with ten minutes to spare...
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Post by: JoseSPiano on November 12, 2005, 06:03:53 PM
It was another good day of rehearsal.  It's been sort of a "weird" first week of rehearsal - but "weird" in a good way.  The director's usual routine is to spend a good three to four days of "table work" - reading and analyzing the script, questioning the characters, etc. - and not getting any "real" rehearsal started until the end of the week.  Well, as of today, we've covered all the musical numbers musically at least once, and three of the numbers have been given a first pass choreographically.  And if we continue with this "plan" we should have most of the show sketched in by the end of next week.

And I have to say that the "Shoeless Joe" dance looks amazing already.  And "Whatever Lola Wants"...  Well, I'd even consider giving in.  ;)
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Post by: JoseSPiano on November 12, 2005, 06:04:25 PM
FJL - Kay sends her love to you and Skip and "the doggies".

:)
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Post by: JoseSPiano on November 12, 2005, 06:07:46 PM
OH!

And since the cast will be doing some research tomorrow - some baseball historians and original Washington Senators will be sharing their stories and history with them - as well as completing one of their "acting assignments", I and not called for rehearsal tomorrow.  So...

I should be on my way back up to NYC around 10:00am!

HOO and RAY!
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Post by: JoseSPiano on November 12, 2005, 06:09:45 PM
DR elmore - Do you know where the A Tale of Two Cities reading will be held?   I'll be at Ripley-Grier on Monday playing some auditions for Disneyworld, and I know the previous readings were done there too.  Maybe I'll run into DR Joey if they'll be there.
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Post by: td on November 12, 2005, 06:16:13 PM
I spent many mornings counting raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens. But oh those curtains!
(I decided not to mention packages tied up with string.  Better left to others)
Whiskers on (sex) kittens. . .
But I'll bet you looked quite cute in your leiderhosen.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on November 12, 2005, 06:23:08 PM
Topic of the Day:

Saturdays were usually cartoons for me too - well, at least "live action cartoons".  All those Kroft Superstars programs: "Electra Woman and DynaGirl", "Sigmund the Seamonster", "Dr. Shrinker", etc.  -Were those all Krofts?  Oh, and "Shazam" - (swoon)...  And then there was that semi-talk-variety show, "Kids Are People Too" hosted by someone-who's-name-escapes-me-now-but-who-I-thought-was-very-hunky.  Etc., etc., etc.

Then when I was nine, I started piano lessons.  And my lessons were at 9:00, Saturday morning with Mrs. Young.  I didn't mind the piano lessons, but getting up and dressed as if I was going to school (again) was a bit of a pain.  Those went on for about two years, then we moved down to DC (from Ledyard, CT).

Somewhere along the line, Saturday morning TV became all about PBS, especially the cooking shows and "This Old House".

OH!!!  There were also those Saturday mornings where me and my brothers would tag along with my father (usually) to go grocery shopping at the commissary and/or base exchange.  Those were always lots of fun.  And sometimes we would stop at Montgomery Ward and/or Sears.  -The smell of the roasting nuts from the candy counters is forever embedded into my sense memory.

...And then Saturday nights were usually spent at one my aunt's houses.  The father's would play pool and/or poker - all depending if our evening's host had a pool table - and the mother's would sit in the kitchen and play mahjhong, look at jewelry samples (one of the mother's had a small side business), and gossip into the wee hours of the morning.  Meanwhile, all the kids would sit and watch TV... and eventually fall asleep in front of said TV.
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Post by: François de Paris on November 12, 2005, 06:24:38 PM
Whiskers on (sex) kittens. . .
But I'll bet you looked quite cute in your leiderhosen.

Some say he looked even cuter OUT of his leiderhosen! :o ;D
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Post by: bk on November 12, 2005, 06:28:33 PM
According to the book, Gower was never happy with the Butterfly number and those tableaux vivants as he called them.  Again, according to the book, he came up with the polka contest when Ginger Rogers went into the B'way company.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on November 12, 2005, 06:29:12 PM
....And more recently, my "ideal" Saturday morning would consist of lying in bed listening to the Saturday morning NPR lineup on WCVE in Richmond, VA: "Weekend Edition", "Car Talk", "My Word", "My Music" (and for a time Rob Kapilow's "Classical Countdown" (??) program), "The Sound of Swing", "Riverwak Jazz"...  And then if it turned out that I had nothing I really had to do and I really wanted to listen to the Met Radio Broadcast, well... I would end up staying in bed all day.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on November 12, 2005, 06:33:26 PM
So...  Some distant relatives are visiting tonight.  My dad's karaoke machine has been going non-stop for the past two hours...  "I Will Survive" just started.  -However, at least it's a nice change from "Old McDonald" and "Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star" which was going ad infinitum and as nauseum earlier (there's a three-year old boy).   And I'm still a bit puzzled over my dad's "obsession" with getting Barbra Streisand's "A Woman In Love" note-for-note correct.

::)
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Post by: JoseSPiano on November 12, 2005, 06:39:15 PM
...And the reason for tonight's gathering is that it's the last night of my aunt's visit.  She heads back to San Diego tomorrow, and then eventually back to the Philippines.  -I think she mentioned that she was able to extend her visit (visa?) to six months.  *Which makes me wonder: Did she buy an open-ended round-trip ticket?  That's a lot of pesos!  In any case...

It has been good seeing my aunt again, unfortunately, over the past couple of days, I've come to think of her more as my "dad's sister" rather than my "aunt".  Let's just say that she's truly "Old World" and very Catholic.  If I'm asked, "Why aren't you married?" one more time...  -And trust me, that question has been asked a lot of the past two weeks!   Ah, family - can't live with 'em...
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Post by: Michael on November 12, 2005, 07:14:54 PM
John Barrowman photo of the evening

(http://www.circumstitions.com/Images/Famous/johnbarrowman-hair.jpg)
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Post by: JoseSPiano on November 12, 2005, 07:23:35 PM
John Barrowman photo of the evening

(http://www.circumstitions.com/Images/Famous/johnbarrowman-hair.jpg)

Been there, seen that.

 :o

;D
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Post by: bk on November 12, 2005, 07:23:49 PM
In about fifteen minutes I'll be on my way to my music prep lady's house - really inconvenient, but I have to get it done.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on November 12, 2005, 07:31:51 PM
BK - Are you using Ms. J. for your music-prep? -Just wondrin' that's all.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on November 12, 2005, 07:33:24 PM
And speaking of "Been there, seen that"...  It seems that those John Lithgow Campbell's Soups commercial have been put into regular rotation on the Food Network as well as TLC.

Yikes!
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Post by: JoseSPiano on November 12, 2005, 07:35:18 PM
DR Ben - Christopher Bloch would love the chance to have a mini-Minnesota reunion in January if you could make it down.  Besides Jim, he mentioned a "Thomas" too from your time in Minnesota who's also living in the DC area now.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on November 12, 2005, 07:40:02 PM
Yikes!...  I just saw the one for the New England Clam Chowder in the individual, microwaveable container...  Truly unforgettable.  Of course, I wish now I wish I could forget it.

:-\
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Post by: S. Woody White on November 12, 2005, 08:06:44 PM
And speaking of "Been there, seen that"...  It seems that those John Lithgow Campbell's Soups commercial have been put into regular rotation on the Food Network as well as TLC.

Yikes!
An irregular rotation will be used when Mr. Lithgow moves on to doing laxative commercials.
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Post by: Matt H. on November 12, 2005, 08:09:35 PM
I took a late afternoon nap which was just what the doctor ordered. Although I felt that I had gotten a good night's sleep last night away from home, obviously, I was still tired enough that a 45 minute nap just hit the spot.
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Post by: Matt H. on November 12, 2005, 08:12:53 PM
I've seen a couple of those Lithgow soup commercials. They haven't bothered me to the extent they seem to have bothered other people.

Frankly, the Kristin Chenoweth Old Navy commercials seem less worthy of her. Here she is this wonderful singer and comedienne and she's shilling jeans, something anyone with even a slight bit of ease before a camera could do.
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Post by: elmore3003 on November 12, 2005, 08:13:28 PM
According to the book, Gower was never happy with the Butterfly number and those tableaux vivants as he called them.  Again, according to the book, he came up with the polka contest when Ginger Rogers went into the B'way company.


The book is wrong and Joel Craig's memory is correct!  The Mary Martin tour opened on April 19, 1965, which I saw in cincinnati, and Ginger Rogers replaced Channing on Aug 9, 1966.  I saw Rogers in the role the week of Dec 26, 1966 on my first trip to New York
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Post by: Matt H. on November 12, 2005, 08:14:57 PM
Having not seen a DVD in quite a while, I first put THE WIZARD OF OZ back in the player to rewatch the sepia sequences and the first bits of Technicolor. Of course, one gets swept up into the story and music, and I got all the way to "If I Were King of the Forest" before my eyes started telling me I needed a nap.
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Post by: elmore3003 on November 12, 2005, 08:17:59 PM
BK - Are you using Ms. J. for your music-prep? -Just wondrin' that's all.

Is that Bonnie J who copied for me on "the Musical Adventures of Peter Pan," didn't make the fixes I phoned to her, and complained about how little BK was paying her so she was making other jobs her priority over Peter Pan?  Tell her hello for me.

DRJose, I have no idea where the Two Cities event is happening.  Joey's not the best about keeping in touch.
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Post by: Matt H. on November 12, 2005, 08:18:03 PM
Then, I put in LES GIRLS. I hadn't watched it on the larger screen TV, so I put it in and settled back to enjoy it all over again. In fact, I seem to like this film more and more the more I see it. I wish there were more numbers, but the ones that are there are really enjoyable to me. And the DVD looks simply splendid compared to the previous laserdisc incarnation which had smeared color and wasn't nearly as sharp.
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Post by: elmore3003 on November 12, 2005, 08:20:27 PM
I've seen a couple of those Lithgow soup commercials. They haven't bothered me to the extent they seem to have bothered other people.

Frankly, the Kristin Chenoweth Old Navy commercials seem less worthy of her. Here she is this wonderful singer and comedienne and she's shilling jeans, something anyone with even a slight bit of ease before a camera could do.

And what is a "worthy" commercial?  Rebecca Luker sold something like Tylenol for a couple of years.
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Post by: Matt H. on November 12, 2005, 08:22:02 PM
I had every intention of watching some of HELLO, DOLLY (after all the discussion about it) after I finished LES GIRLS, but as I was walking over to the shelf where the musicals are stored, I passed the boxed set of the three DIE HARD movies on another shelf.

Ihaven't watched the original DIE HARD in a long, long time, and so I put HELLO, DOLLY on hold and put in DIE HARD. I used the DTS option in the sound menu, and it's IMPRESSIVE! I only got about 15 minutes in before shutting down the components and coming to the computer, but I'll enjoy the rest of it tomorrow.

Then, I plan to watch MYSTERIOUS SKIN afterwards.
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Post by: Matt H. on November 12, 2005, 08:23:22 PM
And what is a "worthy" commercial?  Rebecca Luker sold something like Tylenol for a couple of years.

I only meant that with all her gifts, I wish she could pay her bills using more of them. I am certainly aware that folks have to eat.
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Post by: Jennifer on November 12, 2005, 08:31:53 PM
Re: the John Lithgow soup commercials.  Only the first one I saw (the musical one in his bathrobe) seemed way out there. The others I've seen are much shorter, and mostly without the funny/ridiculous sing song.

The bathrobe musical one is pretty hysterical though.
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Post by: Matt H. on November 12, 2005, 08:58:51 PM
Well, it's midnight here, and I'm heading for bed.

Good night, all!
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Post by: bk on November 12, 2005, 09:16:08 PM
Yes, the very same Ms. J - wacky as ever.  She complains about everything.
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Post by: Cillaliz on November 12, 2005, 09:17:56 PM
Lots of tornadoes in Iowa today. None near me and the one that was headed in the direction of my parents dissapated before it got there, so that's cool.  They did have to evacuate the stadium where the Iowa State vs Colorado football game was about to begin. I bet that was an experience!  
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Post by: Cillaliz on November 12, 2005, 09:19:03 PM
And what is this tornadoes in November stuff??? Excuse me, but they are scheduled for April through August or so... NOVEMBER?????  This is a very wacky weather year, indeed.
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Post by: Cillaliz on November 12, 2005, 09:20:06 PM
Not much else to say tonight. It's very windy and I'm sleepy and ready to call it a night.
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Post by: Cillaliz on November 12, 2005, 09:28:15 PM
One last thought, you know you're having a bad day when you watch "What Not To Wear" and see most of your wardrobe in the before section.  LOL that sort of happened to me today.

I liked the comment "you look very farmer's market" well that's where I had just come from, so apparently I was appropriately dressed!
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Post by: Jason on November 12, 2005, 09:57:59 PM
Good evening, all...

Just back from a loverly dinner at my friend's home enivronment with a couple of the guys from work that I actually like.

After dinner we watched a truly horrid film called "Boom" starring Liz Taylor and Richard Burton. Just heinous.

Much to my surprise, just before we left, I was showered with early birthday gifts. I'm currently watching one of them. All I'll say is that the gifts are all highly coveted items by any musical theatre fan worth their weight in flop shows.

And now I'm off to watch Ms. Buckley Ms. Cook Ms. Hately ....errr...my birthday gifts.  ;)
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Post by: bk on November 12, 2005, 10:06:30 PM
FRENZY, baby, we need a FRENZY!
Title: Re:WAXING NOSTALGIC
Post by: bk on November 12, 2005, 10:06:59 PM
Working on finishing my third DVD for the evening, before I get to tomorrow's notes.

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Post by: bk on November 12, 2005, 10:10:23 PM
The How Senile Can You Be department:

I deceded to make some popcorn.  I went to the cupboard to get my popcorn bowl.  Missing.  Gone.  Not there.  I went ballistic.  I began to think she of the Evil Eye had worked her wonders and broken it.  Then I went to another cupboard where my pots and pans are, to get my silver salad bowl as a replacement for the popcorn bowl.  It, too, was missing.  Gone.  Not there.  I went ballistic.  I looked in every cupboard I could think of, and some I couldn't think of.  Nada.

I put the popcorn in the pot I cook my pasta in.  I was steaming mad.  Whilst I was eating my pasta, and trying to watch the movie, I suddenly realized that both the popcorn bowl and the salad bowl were in the living room, still filled with Halloween candy.  DUH!
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Post by: George on November 12, 2005, 10:14:53 PM
Don't you hate it when that happens?? ;)

Don't feel so bad, BK.  I'm only 39 and things like that have been happening to me for years! ::)
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Post by: Rodzinski on November 12, 2005, 10:17:10 PM
Well, my frenzies—that is to say, my friends, I had the distinct pleasure of seeing a movie today on an actual movie screen that I actually found enjoyable. And it was one for which my hopes were not high. The title is KISS KISS BANG BANG, and it is an unusual movie. And a really fun one with great chemistry between the two leads Mssrs. Downey Jr. and Kilmer. The plot is your typical modern-day noirish LA shenanigans. But the actors really carry this film and make it fun. Some really hilarious exchanges. Violent and unpredictable. And no music overkill on the soundtrack. A pleasant surprise.
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Post by: George on November 12, 2005, 10:32:17 PM
DRGeorge, I wish you'd find another avatar.  The one you're using now scares the hell out of me!   ;D

I, of course, have no options.

A different picture just for you, Elmore. ;D
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Post by: Charles Pogue on November 12, 2005, 10:54:34 PM
elmore, I don't know what a "worthy" commercial is, but I remember the first regional commercial I did back in the mid-seventies being the voice of "the money knight" for a Savings and Loan.  I think I was in the booth for maybe 20 minutes.  I got a check for 800 bucks.  Sure beat working 9-to-5.
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Post by: bk on November 12, 2005, 11:36:32 PM
My first commercial was for Charmin (playing young Mr. Whipple) - it ran for two years - I'd say it was pretty worthy.