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Title: TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: bk on November 03, 2004, 11:59:13 PM
Well, you've read the notes (if you haven't, you won't know how to answer the question that's been asked), you've tinkled the notes, you've tickled the notes, and now it is time to post until the tinkled/tickled cows come home.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Panni on November 04, 2004, 12:41:30 AM
Having announced several times that I'm leaving for Rome - this time I mean it. But I have a few minutes on my hands before the shuttle arrives...
TOD - Goldbeg Variations - Glen Gould.
Bill Evans - really almost anything - especially CONVERSATIONS WITH MYSELF.
Okay, then. Hello, I must be going. Ciao.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: DERBRUCER on November 04, 2004, 01:39:56 AM
Tickle the Ivories is an elephant Polo Team!

(http://www.tickle-and-the-ivories.com/images/photos/np01l-02-redreaches.jpg)

der Brucer (no- this is not political commentary!)

Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: DERBRUCER on November 04, 2004, 02:08:58 AM
Time to Plan Ahead.

One: Amend the constitution.
Tow: Print up Bumper Stickers:

ARNOLD/EDNA 08

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der Brucer - and I approve of this announcement
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Jrand73 on November 04, 2004, 02:46:38 AM
LOL....

As I wrote a week or two ago - I had avoided BRIGADOON the movie like the plague, but when I watched it  on TCM, I liked it.  Hmmm....I did like the OTHER characters more than Kelly, but that it always the case with me....and as DRCP wrote the chase is very exciting.  And I agree that the stagebound sets make the lyrical and mystical place very mysterious and unreal - appropirately so.

I have been reading some online information about the CINERAMA revisited documentary that MR BK wrote about here a few weeks ago.   It is very exciting and interesting.  

Solo piano pieces.....I am VERY fond of  Beethoven's No.27 Opus 2 also known as The Moonlight Sonata.  

There is also a New England composer of the late 19th &early 20th century named Edward MacDowell who wrote several pieces that are lovely.  

Here is a link to a page with samples of his music.

http://www.bol.ucla.edu/~jhiller/macdowell.html (http://www.bol.ucla.edu/~jhiller/macdowell.html)

The pianist on the web site plays everything very "heavy" - but you can get some idea of MacDowell's music.  "The Woodland" pieces are nice.  ;D
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Michael on November 04, 2004, 04:20:28 AM
BK said in his notes:

The scene introduces Emma Goldman (I couldn’t recognize the actress playing her), who first confronts Tateh about throwing his wife out, and then takes Evelyn up to her room, undresses her, all while Brad Dourif is watching, hidden in a closet. It’s a totally weird scene and thank goodness they took it out, but it’s fascinating to watch.

Was it Emma Goldman or Tateh that undresses Evelyn? If it was Goldman that is a weird scene!

Also was that the only scene with Emma Goldman as I couldn't find a listing of who played her.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Michael on November 04, 2004, 04:22:08 AM
I don't know about tickling the ivories, but I had a cat that once tinkled on the ivories.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Kerry on November 04, 2004, 04:37:10 AM
Yesterday at 5:30 am i was frightened, Auntie Em.  Now, with recent developments, I'm scared shitless.

No more soapbox---- for now.

I don't remember if it was favorite piano or favorite classical and i'm too lazy to go back and look.

Grieg's "The Last Spring" and Debussy's "Reverie" would be among favorites that I can think of at 5:37am.
Have a great day.  It HAS to be better than yesterday.

Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: elmore3003 on November 04, 2004, 05:28:54 AM
Good morning, all!

Yes, in the novel RAGTIME there is a sapphic scene between Emma Goldman and Evelyn while Mother's Younger Brother watches concealed.  He becomes so excited that he falls out of the closet.

DearJRand54, MacDowell was, I believe, one of the founders of the Jiulliard School, and his wife, I believe, is behind the MacDowell Colony for writers.  There is a wonderful Doris Grumbach novel based on MacDowell, his wife, the lady who nursed him through his death fom syphilis, and the the love affair between the wife and nurse.  The title is CHAMBER MUSIC, and it's a moving and beautiful piece of writing.  MacDowell seems to have been one more bisexual artist who's been heterosexualized by schools, editors, and others under the guise of protection.

TOD:
Piano solo:
   Mozart Variations on "Ah Vous dirai-je, Maman"
   Debussy Suite Bergamasque
   Ravel everything for piano
   Chopin same as Ravel
   Scott Joplin
Piano and Orchestra
    Gershwin Rhapsody in Blue
    Ravel Concerto in G
    Rachmaninoff Variations on a Theme of Paganini
    Dohnanyi Variations on a Nursery Theme
   
Favorite pianists:  Arthur Rubinstein, Alicia de Larrocha, Ferrante & Teicher, Joshua Rifkin for Joplin
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: elmore3003 on November 04, 2004, 06:04:01 AM
In a desperate bid to appear erudite, I'm going to tackle the tickle:  I thought the phrase "tickling the ivories" might be a 20s expression, like "cat's pajamas," and possibly a title of a Zez Confrey piece, but  I'm wondering if it might not be a ragtime piece of slang.  In 1904, one of the hits was "The St Louis Tickle," and this appears to be my first knowledge of the connection between piano and tickle.  On another similar term for  musical technique, one of my favorite Harburg lyrics is "Let us carouse while Strauss caresses the strings."
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Dan (the Man) on November 04, 2004, 06:12:11 AM
Liebestraum...again!

Favorite Piano solo:  Satie's Gymnopedie No.1

Piano & Orchestra:  Gershwin's Rhapsody in Blue

Favorite Pianist:  Arthur Rubinstein

Favorite Movie Pianist:  Amy Irving in The Competition




Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: William E. Lurie on November 04, 2004, 06:16:25 AM
BK - Please clarify.  Are you producing this recording and Guy Haines is singing or are you singing yourself this time?
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Ben on November 04, 2004, 06:19:56 AM
My favorite movie pianist is Bette Davis in

DECEPTION

a 1946 womens picture w/Claude Rains and Paul Henried. Bette is a concert pianist who can't decided between the two men IIRC (If I Recall Correctly in internet lingo)
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Stuart on November 04, 2004, 06:27:07 AM
Liebestraum...again!


"But I just played it!"
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: elmore3003 on November 04, 2004, 06:36:16 AM
"But I just played it!"

DRStuart, LOL! ;D :-* ;D
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Post by: MBarnum on November 04, 2004, 07:10:23 AM
Seeing TOP HAT last night on the big new screen at the BIG remodeled Elsinore theater in downtown Salem was so much fun! And the house was packed! What a fun movie that was. It is one of the Astair/Rogers films that I have somehow missed over the years.

There were lots of older people in the audience...meaning 60s, 70s, and 80s, and there was a 99 year old lady there who used to go see movies at the Elsinore in the 20s and 30s and she wanted to see if the theater looked the same...which it did.

Next month they show Rear Window and then it is back to some silent films for the months after.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Matt H. on November 04, 2004, 07:11:05 AM
Last night Charles Pogue wrote in reference to BRIGADOON: "I can't believe you've never seen the Kelly movie.  I'm quite fond of it.  I know Kelly wanted to film it on location, but I like the stagebound sets because they can evoke the fantasy unreality of the place better.  But then I've always been a big one for the controlled environment of the sound-stage.  The CHASE of hunting down Harry Beaton is quite thrilling.  

I actually like both score and show a lot."


I couldn't agree with you more. The huge soundstage sets and vistas gives an otherworliness to the movie that realistic Scottish locations would have made very diffricult to achieve.

My only regret about the film is that so many wonderful songs from the stage score were cut obviously to keep the running time less than two hours. Also, Kelly's voice is BARELY adequate enough to handle the score which was probably the reason why such soaring ballads as "From This Day On" and "There But For You Go I" were cut. The latter, of course, was actually filmed, and the outtake was included in THE GENE KELLY COLLECTION laserdisc boxed set which included BRIGADOON.

Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: elmore3003 on November 04, 2004, 07:20:18 AM
all, particularly DREmily who asked about the election, might be interested in seeing today's NY TIMES op-ed page

www.nytimes.com/2004/11/04/opinion/04dowd.html?th


Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: DERBRUCER on November 04, 2004, 07:47:57 AM
My favorite movie pianist is Bette Davis in

DECEPTION

a 1946 womens picture w/Claude Rains and Paul Henried. Bette is a concert pianist who can't decided between the two men IIRC (If I Recall Correctly in internet lingo)

And “Deception” is a wealth of trivia links.

Benson Fong  played a servant (he was Tommy Chan and also Hwang in Flower Drum Song)

Paul Henreid's cello-playing was dubbed by Eleanor Aller (Mrs Felix Slatkin) while she was pregnant with Frederic Zlotkin (famed conductor and cellist and part of the Philip Glass Ensemble) and brother of conductor Leonard Slatkin (St Louis Symphony, U.S. National Symphony, and BBC Symphony and winner of National Medal of Arts 2003)

der Brucer (Kevin Bacon must be only a few steps away)
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Matt H. on November 04, 2004, 07:56:06 AM
I love Debussy's "Reverie," too, but probably for solo piano love "Claire de Lune" even more. Favorite movie pianists - Katharine Hepburn and Mary Astor tie for making their playing very realistic, and it should because both were pianists and were fingering correctly as they played on-screen in SONG OF LOVE and THE GREAT LIE respectively.

Of course, my personal favorite movie pianist is the ever-gorgeous Tyrone Power in THE EDDY DUCHIN STORY, but my preference for him has NOTHING whatsoever to do with his fingering (of the keys, that is).
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Matt H. on November 04, 2004, 07:58:31 AM
Another outstanding episode of LOST last night with surprises, another mystery to solve, wonderful background information on Charlie, and a couple of running storylines that just make you breathless until the next episode. Also, by giving us the backstory on each of the survivors, it makes us REALLY anticipate when certain characters will have their stories told to us.

This is a marvelous show.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: elmore3003 on November 04, 2004, 08:00:24 AM
I didn't mention my favorite movie pianist:  Hugh Grant as Chopin in IMPROMPTU.  Watching Judy Davis' George Sand chase Hugh Grant is like watching a shark chase a minnow.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Matt H. on November 04, 2004, 08:04:51 AM
When I was young, I really had a serious crush on Van Cliburn, and played his Grammy-winning Tchaikovsky Concerto No. 1 all the time.

For entertaining good times, I liked Ferrente and Teisher a lot. Used to go to their concerts when they came to Charlotte all the time.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Matt H. on November 04, 2004, 08:10:01 AM
I see that some foolhardy producers are bringing a new production of ZANNA DON'T to Broadway this spring (retitled ZANNA).

Why on earth do these people think that a show that couldn't manage a decent off-Broadway run will be able to fill a Broadway house at Broadway musical prices? Glad my money is still sitting in the bank. Someone must need a tax write-off very badly.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Dan (the Man) on November 04, 2004, 08:24:38 AM
"But I just played it!"

Liebestraum!
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Stuart on November 04, 2004, 08:29:09 AM
Liebestraum!

Miss Channing's guests would like to know when they might be able to view the body.....
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Dan (the Man) on November 04, 2004, 08:31:52 AM
Miss Channing's guests would like to know when they might be able to view the body.....

Hee hee hee...we could go on and on with this...
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: DERBRUCER on November 04, 2004, 08:33:46 AM
all, particularly DREmily who asked about the election, might be interested in seeing today's NY TIMES op-ed page

www.nytimes.com/2004/11/04/opinion/04dowd.html?th


You know, if Dowd and the rest of the Bush conspiracists had looked up from their bowl of Hate George pudding they could have focused more energy on the Senate races. Coburn and DeMint were beatable, and more to the point more energy exerted in the 6 Senate races wing-nut Republicans won by 2% or less  (AL Murkowski - 49,FL Martinez – 49, KYBunning – 51, LA Vitter 51, NC Burr 52, SD Thune – 51) could have resulted in a Democrat controlled Senate. Even if only a few of the aforementioned were defeated, when you add in the moderate Republicans (Snowe, Collins, Chafee, Specter) we would have had a Senate immune from rubber-stamping  reactionary Court appointments.

The Hate/Fear factor played out on both sides of the equation - I "hated" Kerry more than I feared Bush. Presented with a different Democrat (Joe Lieberman, for example) I would have gladly punched the
"D" hole.

I was also pleased to live in a state (DE) which though it went for Kerry (53%) and re-elected a Democrat Gov (51%), saved it's largest margin (69%) for it's Republican Congressman, Mike Castle, who is pro-Choice, supports gay rights, is a champion of the enviroment, and is leading the charge to change Congress' position on stem cell research.

If instead of bouncing off their respective "wing walls" the centrists in both parties forged the common ground which is right in front of our faces, we could, indeed, make a difference.

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der Brucer (a living, breathing oxymoron - a Progressive Republican)
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Dan (the Man) on November 04, 2004, 08:38:23 AM
I see that some foolhardy producers are bringing a new production of ZANNA DON'T to Broadway this spring (retitled ZANNA).

Why on earth do these people think that a show that couldn't manage a decent off-Broadway run will be able to fill a Broadway house at Broadway musical prices? Glad my money is still sitting in the bank. Someone must need a tax write-off very badly.

In the meanwhile, the investors of August Wilson's Gem of the Ocean decided to pull out at the last minute (they're probably the same ones who are jumping into Zanna.)  Hopefully, Sean Combs will follow through with his offer to help out.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Matt H. on November 04, 2004, 08:42:33 AM
Very disappointed to read this morning that the boxed set of Marx Brothers Paramount films (unquestionably their best screen work), which are to be released on DVD next Tuesday,  are the exact same transfers that Image released some years ago. No new masters, no restorations, no nothing! What a crashing disappointment!  :(
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: DERBRUCER on November 04, 2004, 08:43:11 AM
This should bring some cheer to many!

Quote
Meanwhile, Attorney General John Ashcroft  is expected to turn in his resignation, sources told FOX News. Ashcroft has, for months, signaled his desire to leave the Justice Department, sources said, and he could leave as early as January.

der Brucer
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: elmore3003 on November 04, 2004, 08:44:49 AM
This should bring some cheer to many!der Brucer

Dahlink, you made my day!
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: bk on November 04, 2004, 09:00:45 AM
MattH: I'm sure you read that online about the Marx DVDs, but I have the set and have compared the Duck Soup DVD to the Image DVD and it is not the same transfer - the contrast is better as is the sound.  I have no idea if it's the same source material, but if it is they've done something to it, because the Image disc had grayish contrast and tinny sound.  I've also read things online that would lead me to believe they are not the same transfers.  Universal has issued many of the titles Image and Good Times did first and they all have new and better transfers.

elmore and Shayne: Interesting that that Emma Goldman scene is from the book.  It sounds like they filmed it exactly.  I didn't really care for the actress playing Goldman, that was part of the problem.  The scene is from a black and white work print, so it didn't look so hot, so maybe had it been in color and mixed and scored I might have liked it better.   But it really would have slowed down the pace of the film at that point.  And no, Emma Goldman now appears nowhere in the film of Ragtime.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: bk on November 04, 2004, 09:02:46 AM
My favorite jazz pianist is Bill Evans.  Classical pianist - I really like Philippe Entremont on his Columbia recordings, especially with Eugene Ormandy (Gershwin, etc.).  And I've enjoyed Earl Wild, too, especially in his Rachmaninov recordings.  
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Dan (the Man) on November 04, 2004, 09:07:16 AM
Are there any Marian McPartland fans out there?  Love to hear her play and love to hear her talk.  
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: bk on November 04, 2004, 09:20:58 AM
Yes, I always enjoy Marian McPartland and have several CDs of hers.  I have also always adored Mr. George Shearing, especially his beautiful piano solo album, The Shearing Piano, now on CD from Angel.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: elmore3003 on November 04, 2004, 09:26:04 AM
Let's not forget the piano artistry of Jonathan Edwards, in a class all his own.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: William F. Orr on November 04, 2004, 09:45:11 AM
I will leave aside the tickling of the ivories to add, a day or so late, mine own particular rant on the election.

Last weekend, I phoned my sister-in-law in California.  Four years ago, when she lived here in NY, she must have been the only person in the State who cast a ballot for both Bush and Hillary ("I don't like the way Gore looks.")

Me:  "I suppose you're voting for Bush again."

She:  "I already voted absentee, because I'm handicapped.  Yes, I voted for Bush.  But I voted for Stem Cell Research."

"You disagree with Bush on that?"

"Yes."

"But you like his stand on abortion?"

"No."

"You agree with him on gay marriage?"

"No."

"The environment?"

"No."

"Health care?"  (She's a nurse.)

"No."

"You're glad we invaded Iraq?"

"No.  But I figure as long as we're there, we ought to finish the job.  And I don't like the way Kerry looks.  He keeps changing his mind."

Her husband btb (by the bye in Internet Lingo) is in the Reserves and has already served one tour of duty over there.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: William F. Orr on November 04, 2004, 09:55:50 AM
And then there was the student of mine who asked in class, "I'm not registered yet.  Does anyone know if it's too late to register?  I really haven't paid much attention to the election.  I thought everyone was talking about Jim Carey."

I suggested that perhaps she shouldn't bother to register.

So now  my own great pronouncement on WHY BUSH WON, to be added to those of hundreds of other pundits across the nation:

             
 WHY BUSH WON:

H. L. Mencken said it.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: bk on November 04, 2004, 09:58:02 AM
Lurie: I'm producing and playing the piano.  Mr. Haines is coming in in the later afternoon to sing.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: elmore3003 on November 04, 2004, 09:58:44 AM
"No.  But I figure as long as we're there, we ought to finish the job.  And I don't like the way Kerry looks.  He keeps changing his mind."

He changed his mind about the war!  I would have voted for war in 2001 as well.  Hello, THE ADMINISTRATION LIED TO ALL OF US ABOUT IRAQ!

Poor Bill Clinton, everytime he passed gas, Kenneth Starr was all over him.  So he lied about his penchant for extramarital sex?  George Bush lies about weapons of mass destruction and no one does a thing!
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Jrand73 on November 04, 2004, 10:08:18 AM
Thanks for the MacDowell information DRELMORE.  I had read a bit about his life - but didn't know too much....now I may know TOO MUCH!  LOL

Ah yes Bette in DECEPTION (Pate' - chock full of vitamins!).  And Mary Astor in THE GREAT LIE (Whoever heard of an OUNCE of brandy?)!

I give it to Mary because she played my favorite piano/orchestra Tchiak's First Piano Concerto in B Flat Minor (mentioned by DRMATTH) - I also had/have the Van Cliburn recording on LP and extended 45.

And then there was Cornel Wilde as Chopin - Technicolor blood on the keys!  And those candleabras (this is where Liberace got the idea).

Jonathan Edwards to be sure, and Victor Borge!  And I liked to watch Liberace on tv when I was small.  He looked like he was having such a good time!  And of course Ed Norton preparing Ralph for the tv contest!
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Jrand73 on November 04, 2004, 10:09:56 AM
MR BK I think having a "backer's audition" piano for the CD is a terrific and appropriate idea!
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: JoseSPiano on November 04, 2004, 10:35:45 AM
Good Afternoon!

Yeah!  It's a beautiful sunny day here in Houston today.  Finally!  Of course, I'm still inside my hotel room, so... Hmmm...

As for today's topic... let's see if I can control myself ;)

Favorite composers and pieces:
-Debussy - I like all of "it", but I'm especially fond of his earlier pieces, especially "La plus que lente".  But I also marvel everytime I listen to - and attempt to play - the "Etudes".
-Ravel - Again, I like all of "it".  For my graduation recital, I played two selections from "Miroirs" ("Oiseaux tristes", and "Alborado del gracioso").
-Gershwin - The Three Preludes (well, now it's something like Five or Seven after the latest research)
-Rachmaninov - The Preludes (especially the D Major from the first opus)
-Tchaikovsky - Even though a lot of his solo output falls into the "salon music" category for some ears, there are some true gems among some of his opuses - opi?.  And "The Seasons" - which are really "The Months" are a wonderful set.
-Ginastera - My piano teacher in college introduced me the music of this Argentinian composer.  The later, more atonal works don't really sit too well with me, but the "American Preludes", "Danzas Criollas", and the first Piano Sonata manage to combine moments of barbarism with sheer aching beauty.
-Chopin - The Preludes, the Etudes, the Waltzes, the Scherzos, the Mazurkas, the Sonatas, the Berceuse(!), etc., etc., etc...

As for piano and orchestra:
-Beethoven - Piano Concerto, No. 1 - It was my first piece I ever performed with an orchestra, so.. :)
-Ravel - Piano Concerto in G
-Dohnyani - Variations on a Nursery Tune ("Ah, vous dirai-je, Maman", "Twinkle, Twinkle"...)
-Liszt - Totentanz (variations on the Dies Irae)
-Rachmaninov - Piano Concerto, No. 2 and 3 (or "Rocky 2 and 3" as the piano geeks used to call them).
-Prokofiev - Piano Concerto, No. 3 - and, actually, No. 2 is pretty amazing too.
-Gershwin - Rhapsody in Blue, and BOTH Piano Concertos.  -Yes, the 2nd one recycles some movie themes, but I find it makes for some good listening.

Favorite pianists:
-Walter Gieseking - His Debussy recordings have, thankfully, been reissued a couple of time on CD already.  -And I also keep meaning to check if his recordings of the Hindemith piano sonatas have been releases.  -Well, I'm not sure if he ever recorded them... I know he "concertized" them, so...
-Robert Casadesus - For his Ravel.
-Vladimir Ashkenazy - Almost everything he has every recorded especially the Russian repertoire.
-Emil Gilels - I still turn to his recordings of the Brahms' piano concertos with Jochum when I want to listen to them.  And his Grieg "Lyric Pieces" are another music library staple.
-Mitsuko Uchida - Mozart, and her Debussy "Etudes".
-Andras Schiff - Bach, Bach, Bach
-Martha Argerich - Yes, she can be a bit "eccentric" at times, but her technical prowess is simply awesome: Ravel's "Gaspard de la nuit"; Prokofiev's Piano Concerto, No. 2; Liszt's Piano Concerto, No. 1 ("She doesn't stretch out those opening leaps!?!??"), and her Tchaikovsky Piano Concerto, No. 1 is pretty good too. ;)
-Richard Goode - His complete Beethoven sonatas.
-Krystian Zimmerman - Anything he has recorded.  I just wish he would make more than one appearance in the US every other year.
-Stephen Kovacevich (used to be Steven Bishop-Kovacevich).  -If his cycle of the Beethoven Piano Concerti are still available on Philips budget line, they're more than worth the minor investment.

As for movie pianists:
"The Competition" will always hold a special place in my heart... Richard Dreyfuss' piano faking is/was not done well (but "he" does "play" the finale of the Ginastera first piano sonata), but Amy Irving does a pretty good job.
"Madame Souzatska" - Even though Shirley MacLaine is the star, the young man in the movie does a fine job of "faking".  -Which he should, since he was coached by Barry Douglas (got to love those Irish men!) who also makes an appearance in the movie.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Jrand73 on November 04, 2004, 10:38:40 AM
Oh - Dirk Bogarde as Franz Liszt in SONG WITHOUT END which also starred Capucine and Genevieve Page....and Alex Davion (Ted Casablanca himself) as Chopin.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: William F. Orr on November 04, 2004, 10:42:56 AM
Poor Bill Clinton, everytime he passed gas, Kenneth Starr was all over him.  So he lied about his penchant for extramarital sex?  George Bush lies about weapons of mass destruction and no one does a thing!

And Oliver North has his own TV show.  And is lionized as a Great Patriot by some for breaking the law, selling weapons to our enemies, and lying about it to Congress.  Well, at least he never got a bj that we know of.  
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Jrand73 on November 04, 2004, 10:43:08 AM
Anna Patty Duke Falk Tell Astin Pearce is recovering from open heart surgery at a hospital in Idaho.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: JoseSPiano on November 04, 2004, 10:44:53 AM
And speaking of Amy Irving in "The Competition"...

The one scene that stuck in my mind was when she's playing the final movement of the Prokofiev Third, and she starts playing all those "glisses".  Up and down the keyboard, just "strumming" the keys...

Well, fast forward a few years later... When I first bought the two-piano score for the concerto...  "Where are the glisses?  Where's the section?"  Well...

Imagine my surprise - and shock - when I found that section, and saw that it was notated to be "played" and not "glissed".  The notes are actually notated to be played with one finger hitting two notes at once.  -Those big Russian hands and fingers!

Over the years, I've had a chance to ask various concert pianists about that passage and how they play it.  Some just do the "gliss" thing, others just play really(!) fast(!!!) scales back and forth during that section, and some actually do play the double-notes.

Practice.  Practice.  Practice.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: JoseSPiano on November 04, 2004, 10:50:25 AM
...and then there's that passage in the final movement of Beethoven's "Waldstein" piano sonata.  -Op. 53 (? - not sure right now)...

There's a series of running octaves in both hands.  Some people simplify it by just playing the octaves in single notes.  Others just do a timed "gliss" in octaves (which is what I do/did).  Others can actually play those octaves at the required speed.  Well...

There's a great story about when Rudolf Serkin would perform the "Waldstein".  Right before that passage, he would quickly and almost stealthily bring his fingers up to his mouth and he would lightly lick(!) his pinky and thumb!  He was literally lubricating his fingers for the octave glissandos!
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Stuart on November 04, 2004, 10:52:41 AM
Anna Patty Duke Falk Tell Astin Pearce is recovering from open heart surgery at a hospital in Idaho.

It is NOT a nuthouse!
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: JoseSPiano on November 04, 2004, 10:56:02 AM
Oh... And as for jazz pianists: George Shearing, Marian MacPartland, Oscar Peterson and Bill Charlap.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: JoseSPiano on November 04, 2004, 10:58:37 AM
It is NOT a nuthouse!

I say "nuthouse", you say "hospital".

I say "vacation", you say "sanitorium".

I say "unspecified medical condition", you say "plastic surgery".

;)
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: JoseSPiano on November 04, 2004, 11:01:58 AM
As for my visit to New York next week...

It's looking like Wednesday afternoon/evening will be the most "open" time for me and Steve.  -The Cinderella IDR will be Wednesday at 11:30am(?!?).

-I'm sure we'll all be coordinating in the next couple of days.

:D
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: DERBRUCER on November 04, 2004, 11:03:54 AM
Good Afternoon!

... there are some true gems among some of his opuses - opi?.  

::crosses fingers::

I am lothe to critize or act the pedant...

:: uncrosses fingers::

"opus" is third declension neuter, the plural is "opera".

other examples: caput, capita; iter, iters; mare, maria; cor, corda.

There - feel enlightened 8)

der Brutus-er

Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: DERBRUCER on November 04, 2004, 11:09:20 AM
Right before that passage, he would quickly and almost stealthily bring his fingers up to his mouth and he would lightly lick(!) his pinky and thumb!  He was literally lubricating his fingers for the octave glissandos!

That explains the tubs of Lube in the pit!

der nasty Brucer
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: JoseSPiano on November 04, 2004, 11:19:56 AM
::crosses fingers::

I am lothe to critize or act the pedant...

:: uncrosses fingers::

"opus" is third declension neuter, the plural is "opera".

other examples: caput, capita; iter, iters; mare, maria; cor, corda.

There - feel enlightened 8)

der Brutus-er



Danke...

Btw, isn't it "loathe" not "lothe"? ;)
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Jay on November 04, 2004, 11:21:21 AM
Favoirite solo piano piece:  Beethoven's "Eroica" Variations

Favorite piano concerto:  Beethoven's Fifth in E-flat Major ("The Emperor")

Favorite classical pianist:  Glenn Gould

Favorite jazz pianist:  Erroll Garner
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Charles Pogue on November 04, 2004, 11:23:14 AM
My favourite piano piece is easy because it also happens to be one of my favourite film scores:  It is the Twilight Waltz or Valse Crepusulaire, the major theme from the movie PROVIDENCE by Miklos Rozsa.  And like all Dr. Rozsa's music is haunting, sweeping, and terribly romantic and stirring.  After the PRIVATE LIFE OF SHERLOCK HOLMES, also by Dr. Rozsa, PROVIDENCE is probably my favourite film score.

BK, during his Bay City days,actually executive-produced a Rozsa album, A DOUBLE LIFE, that has the PROVIDENCE theme being played on guitar.  I'm listening to it now.  BK, during your days at Bay City or Varese Sarabande did you ever have the chance to meet the maestro?

After Providence, my favourite piece would probably be REVERIE by Debussy.  A popular tune, MY REVERIE, immortalized by Larry Clinton and his Orchestra, is The Lovely Wife's and my song, which is what introduced me to its Debussy origin.  I'm quite fond of most of Debussy and Rachmanoff... I was introduced to the latter through Tom Ewell in THE SEVEN YEAR ITCH.  My sister got me an album of Rachmanoff as a joke and I was hooked ever since.

I also have a record of Carmen Cavellaro playing piano ala Duchin from the soundtrack of THE EDDY DUCHIN STORY.  His renditions of "Brazil" and "Dizzy Fingers" have always been favs.

MattH, I agree with your downside comments about BRIGADOON, the full fledged score is wonderful and it would have been nice to have heard more of it in the movie, but at least they used it and didn't re-write totally different numbers as has been done too often with screen adaptations.

DERBRUCER, you made my day.  Ashcroft gone!  Now if only Rumsfeld, Cheney, and the other neo-cons disappeared, Bush would be a little more easier to take.  Stupidity is easier to forgive than outright, unabashed Evil.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Jay on November 04, 2004, 11:27:55 AM
Forgot to mention:

Favorite Film Involving a Piano:  1939's Intermezzo with Mr. Leslie Howard and Miss Ingrid Bergman
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: JoseSPiano on November 04, 2004, 11:29:49 AM
That explains the tubs of Lube in the pit!

der nasty Brucer

...and the dim lighting and black clothes!!!

 :o
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: William F. Orr on November 04, 2004, 11:30:17 AM
Pedant?  Did somebody say pedant?  Here I am.  The complete declension, for those who are dying to know, is:

singular

Nominative - opus
Genitive - operis
Dative - operi
Accusative - opus
Ablative - opere
Locative operi or opere
Vocative opus

plural

Nominative - opera
Genitive - operum
Dative - operibus
Accusative - opera
Ablative - operibus
Locative operibus
Vocative opera
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: William F. Orr on November 04, 2004, 11:38:38 AM
And did we forget...

genus, genera (gender)
iter, itera (road)
lemma, lemmata (theme)
theorema, theoremata (proposition)
crimen, crimina (accusation)
fulimen, flumina (river)
limen, limina (threshold)
nomen, nomina (name)
stamen, stamina (thread)

Welll... it takes my mind off of President Butch.  Or, as the French call him, Président Bouche.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Jrand73 on November 04, 2004, 11:39:45 AM
Thanks!  I already turned down the part you're playing!
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Emily on November 04, 2004, 11:42:30 AM
As if John Edwards' yesterday could get WORSE:

"Elizabeth Edwards diagnosed with breast cancer"

Quote
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Elizabeth Edwards, wife of former Democratic vice presidential candidate John Edwards, was diagnosed with breast cancer the day her husband and Sen. John Kerry conceded the presidential race.

Spokesman David Ginsberg said Mrs. Edwards, 55, discovered a lump in her right breast while on a campaign trip last week.

Her family doctor told her Friday that it appeared to be cancerous and advised her to see a specialist when she could.

She put off the appointment until Wednesday so as to not miss campaign time.

Mrs. Edwards had a needle biopsy performed at Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston, where Dr. Barbara Smith confirmed the cancer, Ginsberg said.

He said the cancer was diagnosed as invasive ductal cancer.

That is the most common type of breast cancer, and can spread from the milk ducts to other parts of the breast or beyond.

More tests were being done to determine how far the cancer has advanced and how to treat it, he said.

Ginsberg said spirits are high at the Edwards household.

"Everybody feels good about it, that this is beatable," he said.

Edwards, who leaves his North Carolina Senate seat in January, said in a statement, "Elizabeth is as strong a person as I've ever known. Together, our family will beat this."

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/11/04/elizabeth.edwards.ap/index.html
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: William F. Orr on November 04, 2004, 11:50:44 AM
Well!  I finally got the Broadway Radio Show working on my computer at work.  Here was the problem:  I was getting "shml error" or something.  Last week, I found that writing down the url and typing it in in Real Player connected me.  Why couldn't I get it just by clicking the link?  Aha!  Today I tried again, and as well as the error message I got a pop-up from Quick Time.  Yes, that nasty old Quick Time.

So I went to real player and checked the preference menu, and sure enough Real was not my default for type .smil.  Now it is, and I connect with no problem.  Listening to Alfred Drake right now.  The star of the first Broadway show I ever saw.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Jrand73 on November 04, 2004, 11:53:34 AM
Page Three picture......   8)


(http://departments.weber.edu/it/tech/listserv/images/old-piano.jpg)
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: William F. Orr on November 04, 2004, 11:54:37 AM
Emily, that is so sad, but I am sure she will beat it and she and her husband will have a long career together in the future.  

p.s. Has there ever been a cuter VP candidate?  Well, my mother thought Spiro Agnew (anagram of "Grow a penis") was "a very handsome man".  
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: DERBRUCER on November 04, 2004, 11:56:40 AM
Danke...

Btw, isn't it "loathe" not "lothe"? ;)

BITCH! :'(
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Stuart on November 04, 2004, 11:59:55 AM
Forgot to mention:

Favorite Film Involving a Piano:  

And here I thought you were going to say Michelle Pfeiffer in THE FABULOUS BAKER BOYS
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Stuart on November 04, 2004, 12:05:18 PM
Thanks!  I already turned down the part you're playing!

DR JRand, I am not sure if this was directed my earlier post, but I liked that it seemed apropos of nothing but thin air, and it made me LAUGH!
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: elmore3003 on November 04, 2004, 12:07:17 PM
Two more fantastic movie pieces for piano and orchestra:  Herrmann's concerto from HANGOVER SQUARE and Addinsell's "Warsaw Concerto."
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Stuart on November 04, 2004, 12:07:30 PM
Emily, that is so sad, but I am sure she will beat it and she and her husband will have a long career together in the future.  

p.s. Has there ever been a cuter VP candidate?  Well, my mother thought Spiro Agnew (anagram of "Grow a penis") was "a very handsome man".  

No.  But imagine this ticket in '08:

John Edwards, amazing attorney and erstwhile VP candidate,

and.......

John Edwards, supernaturalist and erstwhile seer.

Now THAT's a hot ticket!
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Charles Pogue on November 04, 2004, 12:27:00 PM
elmore, I was going to mention HANGOVER SQUARE earlier and forgot!  It's wonderful!
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: elmore3003 on November 04, 2004, 12:30:14 PM
elmore, I was going to mention HANGOVER SQUARE earlier and forgot!  It's wonderful!

It's one of Sondheim's favorite pieces.  He told me in 1982 that Tony Perkins and I were the only two people he knew who had seen the film.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Emily on November 04, 2004, 12:30:41 PM
No.  But imagine this ticket in '08:

John Edwards, amazing attorney and erstwhile VP candidate,

and.......

John Edwards, supernaturalist and erstwhile seer.

Now THAT's a hot ticket!

GAHHHHHHHH!!!! Scary botox :)
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: elmore3003 on November 04, 2004, 12:35:00 PM
No.  But imagine this ticket in '08:

John Edwards, amazing attorney and erstwhile VP candidate,

and.......

John Edwards, supernaturalist and erstwhile seer.


Aaaaaahhhh!!  I see dead voters!
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Tomovoz on November 04, 2004, 12:59:31 PM
Pop Piano: Ferrante & Teicher, Roger Williams and the wonderful Floyd Cramer. Also liked Russ Conway and Joe "Finger" Carr.

Favourite "piano" movie "Song Without End" (For Dirk of course).. Least favourites: "The Piano" and "The Pianist". The first to me was just silly, the second too detached.

Classical: Much of Chopin. Philippe Entremont - particularly playing Rachmaninoff and Greig.
Also remember being very fond of a George Greeley recording when I was a youngster.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Tomovoz on November 04, 2004, 01:02:48 PM
Partner Colin would probably list "Sparky's Magic Piano" as his favourite.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Tomovoz on November 04, 2004, 01:04:20 PM
"Ragtime" one of my favourite books (Prefer "The Book of Daniel") and one of my favourite films and one of my favourite musicals.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Jrand73 on November 04, 2004, 01:09:10 PM
Yes DRSTUART is was a response just for you.

My God - she's throwing it in the can.  I'll kill 'er!
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Jrand73 on November 04, 2004, 01:12:03 PM
I love RAGTIME the movie (and book) as well.  Henry Rollins.....what a wonderful performance.  Debbie Allen gives a heartbreaking performance as well.  Her scene at the train station and the one following is Forman at his finest - which is FINE indeed.

Oh HANGOVER SQUARE....Laird Cregar!
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: elmore3003 on November 04, 2004, 01:20:23 PM
The new London Daily Mirror.  If this throws us into Cinemascope, I'll delete it.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Jrand73 on November 04, 2004, 01:29:57 PM
Wow!  HANGOVER SQUARE in the Spanish version was called
CONCIERTO MACABRO!   8)

And remember the piano at the end of HEDDA GABBLER?  Wow!  Remember in the movie THE VELVET TOUCH when Rosalind Russell played a famous stage actress doing HEDDA.....and she went into the other room and played the piano....and the audience really wondered if she did shoot herself?  Her character had been trapped and found out as a muderer by Sydney Greenstreet!

I can't find a copy of the play - is the music Hedda plays notated or is it just marked as playing "furioso?"  Grrrrrrrrrrr....I forget!  

 :P  Has any DR seen HG onstage?  How was it?
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: elmore3003 on November 04, 2004, 01:32:17 PM

I can't find a copy of the play - is the music Hedda plays notated or is it just marked as playing "furioso?"  Grrrrrrrrrrr....I forget!  

 :P  Has any DR seen HG onstage?  How was it?

I love HEDDA GABLER, but I have no memory of her playing the piano at all!

Algernon plays the piano in THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING EARNEST.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on November 04, 2004, 01:37:56 PM
And the worst ...

(http://members.aol.com/movieboy5/torch1.jpg)

Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Matt H. on November 04, 2004, 01:39:50 PM
Yes, bk, I read about the Marx Brothers set on the internet by an internet reviewer who synched up THE COCOANUTS and ANIMAL CRACKERS on side-by-side laptops and said they were the same with the same artifacts, edits (skips) as before, and he mentioned he noticed no difference in sound. But, DUCK SOUP wasn't mentioned and, of course, I'm sure you're right about that. Maybe since it's widely regarded as their masterpiece (I like HORSE FEATHERS better though, naturally, the depth of satire isn't the same), Universal did do some clean up and remastering with it.

They're not selling the movies separately as Warners did with some of their Marx set, and the only one of the Image ones I didn't buy was THE COCOANUTS since I had it on laserdisc and the reviews then said it was simply a port over from the laserdisc master.

So, I have to decide if I want to sink $35-40 on the set or simply dub a DVD from the laser for THE COCOANUTS and keep the other four that I already own.

Are there any extras at all in the set. The reviews I've read haven't mentioned anything.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Matt H. on November 04, 2004, 01:43:53 PM
Meant to talk about RAGTIME this morning and forgot. I adore the film and at the time found it a brilliant distillation of the (for me) almost unreadable book.

After I saw the Broadway version of RAGTIME (which I thought was close to a masterpiece), I went back to the book and found it quite wonderful. I still think the moviemakers did the right thing condensing that hefty narrative and all those plots, but the stage show was a terrific compromise between the more simplistic film and the much weightier tome.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Jrand73 on November 04, 2004, 01:45:06 PM
Oh dear - do I have the wrong play? Oh my....
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Matt H. on November 04, 2004, 01:46:00 PM
The new London Daily Mirror.  If this throws us into Cinemascope, I'll delete it.

I agree with the London Daily Mirror but seeing as how the South went solidly for Bush, and I taught quite a few of those voters and their parents, I can't say I'm surprised. They made pretty dismal decisions when they were in school, too.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Matt H. on November 04, 2004, 01:48:05 PM
DR Stuart, I believe the professional seer's name is John Edward, no "s" on the end of his name.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Jrand73 on November 04, 2004, 01:53:04 PM
I am planning something for my 5000th post which will take place soon!
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: elmore3003 on November 04, 2004, 01:55:20 PM
After I saw the Broadway version of RAGTIME (which I thought was close to a masterpiece), I went back to the book and found it quite wonderful. I still think the moviemakers did the right thing condensing that hefty narrative and all those plots, but the stage show was a terrific compromise between the more simplistic film and the much weightier tome.

I knew Michael Weller in the early 1980s since he was friends with the owners of The Drama Bookshop and my roommate Melanie.  I told him I was disappointed that the movie focused on the Coalhouse Walker plot and didn't balance all the plot elements of the novel, which I read the day it was released.  I was so bummed, after NASHVILLE, when the film was taken away from Altman.   My memory is that Michael said his original screenplay was more of the novel and that the director and producers made the final decisions.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: elmore3003 on November 04, 2004, 01:55:49 PM
I am planning something for my 5000th post which will take place soon!

Stop him, someone!
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Jrand73 on November 04, 2004, 01:56:29 PM
Page Four Dance!!   ;D

(http://www.gifs.net/animate/99-03_ani.gif)

I don't think this is working.

LOL DRELMORE
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: JoseSPiano on November 04, 2004, 01:59:18 PM
Page Four Dance!!   ;D

(http://www.gifs.net/animate/99-03_ani.gif)

I don't think this is working.

LOL DRELMORE

I was about to say the same thing... I guess you're modifying as I type.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: elmore3003 on November 04, 2004, 02:02:05 PM
Meant to talk about RAGTIME this morning and forgot. I adore the film and at the time found it a brilliant distillation of the (for me) almost unreadable book.

DRMattH, I had a similar problem with CATCH-22, which I loathed the first two times I tried to read it; couldn't get past the first chapter.  The third time, I read the first chapter, laughed hysterically, and laughed through almost all of the book.  By the full description of Snowden's (?) death, I was weeping profusely.  What a great novel.

I need to see the film of RAGTIME again since I haven't seen it since its first release.  I was disappointed in the diminishing of the other plots in favor of Coalhouse Walker's story, and I thought Altman proved with NASHVILLE that he could have kept a better balance.  Now, with the passing of time, I'd probably enjoy it more.  My memory of reading the book in 1976 is how funny it was, and then Sarah was killed and Doctorow pulled the carpet out from under you.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: elmore3003 on November 04, 2004, 02:03:37 PM
I am planning something for my 5000th post which will take place soon!

This is not voodoo.  Allison Hayes will not rise from the dead like Vampira, even if they do own the same brassiere.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: JoseSPiano on November 04, 2004, 02:05:32 PM
So...

Any NYCers or NYC-knowledgeable types have any suggestions for some culinary diversions off the beaten path?

-Of course, the more I "plan" next week, the more I wish I was there for more than just three days this time round.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: elmore3003 on November 04, 2004, 02:07:22 PM
-Of course, the more I "plan" next week, the more I wish I was there for more than just three days this time round.

What happened to your relocation plans?
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Tomovoz on November 04, 2004, 02:07:47 PM
Maybe I was fortunate to see the film of "Ragtime" before I read the book. It was the Randy Newman score that was my incentive to see the movie.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Matt H. on November 04, 2004, 02:23:48 PM
For the first time in a week, we're having a nighttime rehearsal; the kids are being added to the show tonight, so who knows how late I'll be logging back in tonight?

The script called for four children; the director cast eight. [gulp]
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Jrand73 on November 04, 2004, 02:25:19 PM
For post number 5000 - here is Miss Judy Garland!  ;D

Thanks to HHW and all the wonderful people here!

Get Happy!!!
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: JoseSPiano on November 04, 2004, 02:28:32 PM
What happened to your relocation plans?

Well... I'm off for three weeks after A Chorus Line... Then I start Hallelujah, Baby at Arena on December 1.  That closes February 13, 2005.  After that... Hmmm...
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: elmore3003 on November 04, 2004, 02:31:07 PM
For post number 5000 - here is Miss Judy Garland!  ;D

Thanks to HHW and all the wonderful people here!

Get Happy!!!


[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]  HAPPY 5,000, DRJRAND54, and 5,000 MORE YEARS!!! :-* :-* :-* :-* ;D ;D ;D ??? ??? ??? ;D ;D ;D :-* :-* :-*[/move]
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: MBarnum on November 04, 2004, 02:32:05 PM
Wow, 5000 posts! I have some catching up to do!
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Tomovoz on November 04, 2004, 02:39:39 PM
Congratulations DR JRand. May your next 5000 be just as happy.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Charles Pogue on November 04, 2004, 02:44:30 PM
The really amusing thing about the front page of the Mirror is that, I believe the Mirror is one of the lower-class tabloids in Britain.  So if their readers think we're stupid for re-electing Bush, how scary is that?
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: George on November 04, 2004, 02:53:53 PM
For the first time in a week, we're having a nighttime rehearsal; the kids are being added to the show tonight, so who knows how late I'll be logging back in tonight?

The script called for four children; the director cast eight. [gulp]

Quite a few years ago, I saw a locally produced high school production of Into the Woods and they had four, yes FOUR, princes!  They split the lines between them!  AND they had several "phantoms" who moved sets around (not a bad idea) but then they also took some of the Mysterious Man's lines (a very bad idea)!!
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: elmore3003 on November 04, 2004, 02:56:32 PM
Quite a few years ago, I saw a locally produced high school production of Into the Woods and they had four, yes FOUR, princes!  They split the lines between them!  AND they had several "phantoms" who moved sets around (not a bad idea) but then they also took some of the Mysterious Man's lines (a very bad idea)!!

I once saw a dreadful community theatre OKLAHOMA! in which the egocentric director danced the Dream Curly, but since he didn't want anyone (hah!) to know it was he, everyone wore masks.  The ballet looked like the Rockettes in THE BRIDE OF ZORRO.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Ben on November 04, 2004, 03:26:35 PM
Tonight, courtesy of Actor's Equity, I will be seeing Brooklyn. I knew I could get a discounted ticket but free is even better. Especially after reading the reviews. It will be interesting to say the least. I hear there is good talent in a not so good show.

Report later.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: elmore3003 on November 04, 2004, 03:59:27 PM
The really amusing thing about the front page of the Mirror is that, I believe the Mirror is one of the lower-class tabloids in Britain.  So if their readers think we're stupid for re-electing Bush, how scary is that?

Yes, perhaps, but how smart are their editors?
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Jane on November 04, 2004, 04:35:59 PM
Matt H asked “DR Jane, I'm just curious if there was a Democrat that you did feel passionate about before Kerry got the nod?”

I never really had a chance.  I knew by the time the primaries came to Oregon the decision would likely have been made already.  In spite of that, if I had not been dealing with family and pet issues I would have been more involved.  Early on Hart got my attention.  If he had not blown his nomination years ago he would have had my vote.  For those who did run, I guess Gerhardt was interesting, maybe Lieberman but Lieberman did not do well in the debates last time.  

I guess I could have simply said no. ;D
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Jane on November 04, 2004, 04:38:40 PM

Jose we also buy the Garden Burgers at Costco.  Unless desperate we do not order frozen veggie burgers from a restaurant.  Some places make their own which usually are very good.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Jrand73 on November 04, 2004, 04:40:25 PM
I think I will play some LP's tonight.  DR's - which artist or group do you have the MOST recordings by?

I just found 5 Glen Campbell LP's in my collection!
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Jrand73 on November 04, 2004, 04:41:18 PM
DRJOSE didn't you say that you and  friend Steve might be getting closer...as the saying goes?
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Jrand73 on November 04, 2004, 04:55:24 PM
WOW!  The TOD compelled me to look at my LP's.  I found Van Cliburn playing Rachmaninoff's Greatest Hits.   Joe Bushkin Plays 50 Irving Berlin Hits, and Leonard Pennario plays the Spanish Piano.  

Has any DR heard of Pennario or Bushkin?
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: bk on November 04, 2004, 05:09:31 PM
Pogue: I, too, love the score to Providence.  I think Rozsa was too sick to see me on the day when I was going to meet him (through our mutual pal, Tony Thomas).  However, he did sign my Providence LP, which I still have (boxed up somewhere in the garage).  

Back from the studio.  The session was lots of fun, and thanks to the wonder of Pro Tools I was able to fix my several piano mistakes quite easily.  Alet, Tammy, Barbara and Guy all did well.  Next week I'll be mixing the thing and it will be done in plenty of time to ship with the books.  Now, if only Mr. Mark Bakalor will get the Writer's Block website up, we can begin taking orders.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: elmore3003 on November 04, 2004, 05:27:18 PM
WOW!  The TOD compelled me to look at my LP's.  I found Van Cliburn playing Rachmaninoff's Greatest Hits.   Joe Bushkin Plays 50 Irving Berlin Hits, and Leonard Pennario plays the Spanish Piano.  

Has any DR heard of Pennario or Bushkin?

Leonard Pennario is a fantastic pianist!  I have a recording of  him playing Louis Moreau Gottschalk, a fantastic American pianist/composer who died shortly after the Civil War.  His music, especially pieces like "Bamboula," seem to be a combination of Joplin and Chopin.  I recommend this CD a lot.

I should have mentioned Gottschalk's "Grande Tarantelle for Piano and Orchestra" as another great piano-orchestra piece.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: elmore3003 on November 04, 2004, 05:28:36 PM
Now, if only Mr. Mark Bakalor will get the Writer's Block website up, we can begin taking orders.

Well, my credit card's hot and ready to go to work!
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: François de Paris on November 04, 2004, 05:33:10 PM
In International Herald Tribune dated Thursday 4, November:

"The actress Patty Duke was having single heart bypass surgery Wednesday.
Duke, 57, .... was admitted to the center -- / which one, they don't say !!! / -- last spring for insertion of a stent in one of her arteries to improve blood flow....."

"Prince Rainier (81) of Monaco has returned to his palace after spending a week in a hospital with a lung infection...Rainier....was admitted to the hospital on Oct. 26.  He was hospitalized earlier this year with coronary problems."
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Jane on November 04, 2004, 05:38:37 PM


p.s. Has there ever been a cuter VP candidate?  Well, my mother thought Spiro Agnew (anagram of "Grow a penis") was "a very handsome man".  

Are you joking?

I got a kick out of your conversation with your sister in-law.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: bk on November 04, 2004, 05:39:49 PM
I will have to be on my way shortly to sup with a friend in La Crescenta.  Y'all keep the home fries burning.

I've pretty much made the decision not to add anything to these tracks - I really like the retro "demo" sound - just like what they would have done back in 1969.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Jane on November 04, 2004, 05:43:00 PM

Favourite "piano" movie "Song Without End" (For Dirk of course).. Least favourites: "The Piano" and "The Pianist". The first to me was just silly, the second too detached.


I liked THE PIANIST but intensely disliked THE PIANO.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: bk on November 04, 2004, 05:43:32 PM
Of course, I too love the Satie Gymnopedis (sp?), wonderful pieces.

A not well known but wonderful piano concerto worth seeking out is Robert Ward's.  It was the very first CD issued on Bay Cities.  I became a huge fan of Mr. Ward's on hearing his opera of The Crucible (talked about at length in Kritzer Time) and it was a thrill to be able to issue quite a bit of his music on Bay Cities (I think we did four or five CDs worth).  I became friendly with him and we even recorded the premiere of some symphony that had never been heard before.  Unfortunately, the orchestra wasn't top-notch and we decided not to even attempt to edit the rehearsal and the performance that we recorded.

Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: MBarnum on November 04, 2004, 05:54:18 PM
DR Jane, I did not care for THE PIANO either...it was very unpleasant!

As for DRJRand54's question I have 4 Miyoshi Umeki CDs so I think that makes her the winner in my house.

I have two CDs each of Miss Toni Fisher, Amr Diab, Paul Robeson, Astrud Gilberto (although a 3rd one is on it's way), and Andrea Bocelli.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Jrand73 on November 04, 2004, 05:56:48 PM
Why would Ray Liotta give "the performance of his career" on ER?
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: bk on November 04, 2004, 05:57:21 PM
MattH: I'm sure that's right about the earlier films because I'm sure they were taken from their best elements.  I think quite a bit of The Coconuts negative has been lost or damaged beyond repair - in fact, I remember something about the first reissue of it after thirty or forty years in the seventies, that they'd had to piece it together from surviving prints - so, I think that and Animal Crackers are the best they're going to look.  That said, I'm still sure the Universals will be better because those early Image discs are loaded with artifacts and just don't look so good.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Jrand73 on November 04, 2004, 05:57:27 PM
MBARNUM MXC is coming on!
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Jane on November 04, 2004, 06:01:05 PM
DERBRUCER-great teamwork sign.

JRand pretty page three & Judy pics and congrats on 5,000 posts.

Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: bk on November 04, 2004, 06:05:18 PM
I shall return in a couple of hours.  Looking forward to more excellent reading upon my return.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Jrand73 on November 04, 2004, 06:06:10 PM
Thanks DRJANE!
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Jane on November 04, 2004, 06:07:17 PM
You are welcome.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: S. Woody White on November 04, 2004, 06:17:54 PM
And then there was the student of mine who asked in class, "I'm not registered yet.  Does anyone know if it's too late to register?  I really haven't paid much attention to the election.  I thought everyone was talking about Jim Carey."
How did she get in your class?  Are you doing pro bono remedial work these days?
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Jane on November 04, 2004, 06:27:37 PM
LOL SWW.  I was wondering…..
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: S. Woody White on November 04, 2004, 06:32:51 PM
Dinner's in the oven.  Macaroni and cheese, from scratch.  If it turns out good, I'll let everyone know.

Down with the Blue Box!

(I almost wrote "Down with the Blue Boxers," but let's not go there.)

 ::)
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: S. Woody White on November 04, 2004, 06:40:02 PM
::crosses fingers::

I am lothe to critize or act the pedant...

:: uncrosses fingers::

"opus" is third declension neuter, the plural is "opera".

other examples: caput, capita; iter, iters; mare, maria; cor, corda.

There - feel enlightened 8)

der Brutus-er
So, when various Congressmen (and women) fail to get re-elected, that they are caput is a capita idea?

 ::)

(Trust me, folks, when asked why he chose me as his mate, der B refers to Jessica Rabbit and says "He makes me laugh."  Go figure.   ;D )
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: S. Woody White on November 04, 2004, 06:54:03 PM
As if John Edwards' yesterday could get WORSE:

"Elizabeth Edwards diagnosed with breast cancer"http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/11/04/elizabeth.edwards.ap/index.html
SHE WHAT!!!???

She put off having it taken care of until AFTER the election?

TALK ABOUT STUPID!

Everyone knows (or should by now) that putting off having anything suspicious that might be cancerous examined is the worst idea possible.  Even with today's improved treatments, breast cancer is one thing that should never, I repeat NEVER be ignored.

Pardon me for shouting, but my mother died because of breast cancer.  I am so not impressed with this woman's behavior.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Jane on November 04, 2004, 07:05:12 PM
She didn't put it off.  She found a lump, had a biopsy and was diagnosed yesterday.  When she had her last yearly test I don't know.  Very scary stuff I know.

Prior to my sister getting ovarian cancer she only went once to get tested, a few years prior to her diagnosis.  I think she had symptoms for a year before she was tested again.  This from a woman with ovarian cancer all around her- mother, aunt and cousin.  Talk about idiots.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: S. Woody White on November 04, 2004, 07:14:22 PM
No one has yet mentioned Mussorgsky's Pictures at an Exhibition as a solo piano work.  I'm far more intrigued by this, on repeated hearings, than I've ever been by Ravel's orchestral transmogrification.

Yes, you're permitted to look the word up.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: S. Woody White on November 04, 2004, 07:17:49 PM
Off to finish dinner.  The mac and cheese looks very good; how it tastes will be discovered soon.

And there's enough to feed an army!  (I went for making the full batch this time.  But Alton Brown has a recipe for frying the cooled leftovers!)
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Jane on November 04, 2004, 07:22:56 PM
Sorry SWW, I went back and re-read the story.  She only put if off for 5 days which isn’t too bad considering the doctor said to see a specialist when she could, not immediately.  Not that I would have wanted to wait.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Jane on November 04, 2004, 07:24:57 PM
I have found freezing leftover mac and cheese works well. However that leftover recipe sounds interesting.  Let me know how if it is good or not.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Ben on November 04, 2004, 07:26:57 PM
I have returned from Brooklyn, the Musical, not the Borough across the East River, spanned by the bridge of the same name.

It's late for me so I will post more tomorrow.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Jane on November 04, 2004, 07:27:38 PM
I am super tired tonight.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Sigerson Holmes on November 04, 2004, 07:35:56 PM
I like the Gerswin piano Preludes.  The "Brigadoon" discussion reminds me that Gene Kelly choreographed some dances to these Preludes for his 1958 TV "Omnibus" episode, "Dancing: A Man's Game."  They were adapted for orchestra by Saul Chaplin, I  believe, and it was neat to see Kelly dancing to Gershwin again.

I must throw in my vote for BK's giving "Brigadoon" another chance.  I think I heard it's being given an improved DVD release soon.  (And I in turn promise to take a second look at another stagebound musical adaptation that never wowed me, but which I think you said you liked, "Li'l Abner.")

A highlight, and one of the few accidental improvements from the otherwise unfortunate decision to transform "a singer's show" into "a dancer's film," is Kelly's softshoe solo "Almost Like Being in Love."  He makes it into a similar sort of jubilant goof in the manner of "Singin' in the Rain," but without the puddles, and it's hard to imagine it working better on film as a duet (which it was originally on Broadway) even if the casting was right.

I think I read that Donen had wanted to do "Brigadoon."  It might have turned out pretty well had he directed Howard Keel and Jane Powell in it, even if it had been shot entirely indoors.  "Seven Brides for Seven Brothers" was also shot mostly indoors, wasn't it?  Yet it was able to capture the kind of energy (Michael Kidd's choreography was a big help) often lacking in "Brigadoon," and managed to beat the kilt off it at the box-office.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Jrand73 on November 04, 2004, 07:37:22 PM
Awaiting DRBEN's review of BROOKLYN tomorrow!

Laughter is VERY important DRSWW!  DRELMORE thanks for the Pennario info!

Does anyone else remember the HOOKED ON CLASSICS LP's?
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Tomovoz on November 04, 2004, 07:45:33 PM
Louis Clark and the Royal Philharmonic. 1981/2

Which I guess means YES.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Matt H. on November 04, 2004, 08:17:32 PM
DR Jane, I thought Howard Dean had some interesting ideas that I would liked to have read more of in greater detail. Alas, t'was not to be.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Matt H. on November 04, 2004, 08:21:05 PM
I agree with you DR JRand; I'm looking forward to reading DR Ben's thoughts about BROOKLYN tomorrow. Any other NYCers who are curious at all about it are also welcome to post impresions of it. I know some already have. The more the merrier!
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Matt H. on November 04, 2004, 08:23:10 PM
Another day where not a single DVD made its way into the player. When one is in rehearsal for a show (and practicing at odd hours daily), finding time to squeeze in a two hour movie is very difficult. The weekends (when we don't practice, at least not yet) offer the only opportunities for sustained viewing.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: DERBRUCER on November 04, 2004, 08:24:22 PM
Off to finish dinner.  The mac and cheese looks very good; how it tastes will be discovered soon.

And there's enough to feed an army!  

Actually enough to feed most of the hungry of the east coast, plus the starving Armenians, should any still be left from my childhood.

der Brucer (but it was quite good!)
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Dan (the Man) on November 04, 2004, 08:34:07 PM
For post number 5000 - here is Miss Judy Garland!  ;D

Thanks to HHW and all the wonderful people here!

Get Happy!!!


I am a piker.  And a humble one at that.  Congrats to Jrand!
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Dan (the Man) on November 04, 2004, 08:36:17 PM
Tonight, courtesy of Actor's Equity, I will be seeing Brooklyn.

"...courtesy..."?!?
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: DERBRUCER on November 04, 2004, 08:37:18 PM
Does anyone else remember the HOOKED ON CLASSICS LP's?

Right next to "Classical Music for People Who Hate Classical Music " and the "Switched On" series, particularly Switched on Bach by Wendy Carlos.

der Brucer (who will NOT admit to owning 101 Strings albums)
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Dan (the Man) on November 04, 2004, 08:42:01 PM
I think I will play some LP's tonight.  DR's - which artist or group do you have the MOST recordings by?

Dave Matthews Band.  I got every single commercial release of theirs plus quite a few concert ootlegbays.

In second place, it's probably Ella Fitzgerald.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Dan (the Man) on November 04, 2004, 09:07:24 PM
I don't think anyone mentioned Windham Hill pianist George Winston.  I'm actually listening to his Vince Guaraldi CD right now.  His December recording is a holiday classic.

Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Jrand73 on November 04, 2004, 09:16:36 PM
Yes, TOMofOZ and derBRUCER those are the ones!  LOL....
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Post by: JoseSPiano on November 04, 2004, 09:41:46 PM
Tonight, courtesy of Actor's Equity, I will be seeing Brooklyn. I knew I could get a discounted ticket but free is even better. Especially after reading the reviews. It will be interesting to say the least. I hear there is good talent in a not so good show.

Report later.

Any chance those AEA tickets could go to a non-AEA member?  -I don't think the AFM offers freebies... Ah, well..
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: JoseSPiano on November 04, 2004, 09:46:59 PM
DRJOSE didn't you say that you and  friend Steve might be getting closer...as the saying goes?

 ::)

Next week New York...

(cue the tinkling piano music...)
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: JoseSPiano on November 04, 2004, 09:57:51 PM
Has any DR heard of Pennario or Bushkin?

Bushkin - ???

Pennario - I still have Pennario's LP of Gershwin's "Rhapsody in Blue" and the Preludes, and I think the Concerto in F, somewhere in my storage.  It was part of my "buy every recording of the Rhapsody In Blue that I can afford" phase when I was 14.  I don't think many of his recordings have made it to CD - but, then again, I have really looked, so...

However, the one thing that stands out in my mind is his rendition of the Third Piano Prelude.  The open "vamp" measure sound more like a slightly Viennese waltz than the slightly Latin-rhythm notated.  It always bugged me... and still does.   :P
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: JoseSPiano on November 04, 2004, 10:08:46 PM
I think I will play some LP's tonight.  DR's - which artist or group do you have the MOST recordings by?

I just found 5 Glen Campbell LP's in my collection!


Even though my collection is currently "out of sight", I know I have all but one of Billy Joel's CDs (the Russian one is the omission).  -And I have a bunch of Billy Joel on LP too.  Then there's The Manhattan Transfer (I'm sure DR George can beat my tally), Take 6, James Taylor, etc...

Now, if we're talking classical artists... Hmmm...

OH!  I forgot to mention two pianists in my earlier listing:
-Murray Perahia - Some truly effortless sounding virtuosity.  And what a comeback from his hand accident of a few years ago.
-Alicia de Larrocha - The True Grand Dame of Spanish Piano Music.  And her Mozart ain't half bad either. ;)
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: S. Woody White on November 04, 2004, 10:23:37 PM
Right next to "Classical Music for People Who Hate Classical Music " and the "Switched On" series, particularly Switched on Bach by Wendy Carlos.

der Brucer (who will NOT admit to owning 101 Strings albums)

And he's hidden them very well.

Wendy Carlos (http://www.wendycarlos.com/) has had an interesting career.  Starting as the first person to successfully release an album recorded on the Moog synthesizer, she proceeded to synthesize Hayden, Beethovan, even Bacharach.  I think what she's composed herself is more interesting, such as "Timesteps" (included on the soundtrack for A Clockwork Orange) and "Sonic Seasonings," a highly environmental piece released before New Age became popular.  She's since gone on to work with scales other than our familiar "well-tempered" Western scale, along with a large variety of other interests.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: S. Woody White on November 04, 2004, 10:27:12 PM
(cue the tinkling piano music...)
I'd have suggested chase music, but whatever works!   ;)
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: JoseSPiano on November 04, 2004, 10:27:18 PM
No one has yet mentioned Mussorgsky's Pictures at an Exhibition as a solo piano work.  I'm far more intrigued by this, on repeated hearings, than I've ever been by Ravel's orchestral transmogrification.

Yes, you're permitted to look the word up.

I almost gave a recital of the Pictures while I was in college.  Almost.  They just would not stick in my memory.  And some of them are just plain hard!  -And you can tell Moussorgsky had a very large hand-span from his writing!  The "Ballet of the Unhatched Chicks" has some very "awkward" passages.

My favorite recording has to be Horowitz's live one from one his Carnegie Hall recitals.  He uses the "alternate" octave/bell line for the finale, "Great Gates of Kiev".  Even though the sound is not pristine, the electricity is still evident.

Schott publishes an edition of Pictures edited by Vladimir Askenazy which includes the aforementioned alternate octave passage in the appendix/notes.  -Which, if I'm remembering correctly was actually pasted over in the Mussorgsky's manuscript.  And there are two color pages of some of the original paintings that inspired the cycle.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: S. Woody White on November 04, 2004, 10:28:55 PM
I've got a LOT of Mike Oldfield discs, I'm not even going to guess how many.  But I've learned (the hard way) to avoid his vocal stuff, and stick to his instrumentals.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: JoseSPiano on November 04, 2004, 10:39:39 PM
And there's enough to feed an army!  (I went for making the full batch this time.  But Alton Brown has a recipe for frying the cooled leftovers!)

Is this recipe on-line or in one of his books?

-I've seen deep-fried mac'n'cheese listed on some snack bar menus, but I've never tried it.  Sounds intriguing.  I guess it's like those broccoli-cheese balls that were such the rage at places like TGIFriday's a couple of years ago.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: S. Woody White on November 04, 2004, 10:40:16 PM
In response to my noting that I'd made enough mac and cheese to feed an army, der Brucer wrote...
Actually enough to feed most of the hungry of the east coast, plus the starving Armenians, should any still be left from my childhood.

der Brucer (but it was quite good!)
So, here's what I put on his plate:

Cook a pound of elbow macaroni in boiling, salted water, according to directions on the package.  Drain well and put the macaroni in a large bowl, stirring in 1 pound (about 4 cups) grated Cheddar cheese until the cheese is melted.  Stir in 1/4 pound butter, 6 eggs (lightly beaten) and two 13 oz. cans of evaporated milk, plus salt and pepper to taste.

(Frankly, you'll have to guess on the seasoning.  Me, I'm not partial to tasting uncooked eggs.  I am partial to a little cayenne, however... ;D)

Pour the mixture into a 9 x 13 inch baking dish, sprinkle an additional 1/2 cup Cheddar on top, and bake in a 360 degree oven for 45 minutes, or until the mixture has set and the cheese on top is "golden brown and delicious."  (Yep, another Alton Brown reference!)

I'm going to hold off on posting that fried mac and cheese recipe, at least until I've actually tried it.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: bk on November 04, 2004, 10:41:53 PM
Back from a very filling Mexican dinner with my friend Debbie.  Her little daughter, whom I've known since she was born, is now thirteen.  I hadn't seen her since she was eleven - what a difference two years makes.  She's now quite the little adult, and very funny.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: S. Woody White on November 04, 2004, 10:44:03 PM
The recipe, DR Jose, should be on-line.  It's also on the Good Eats: Family Favorites DVD, the episode titled "Use Your Noodle - For Whom the Cheese Melts 2: Mac & Cheese."  That's the episode where he first introduced his nephew, Elton, as his kitchen assistant.  (You know, the kid who looks like a cute, young verson of Alton, with braces.)
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: S. Woody White on November 04, 2004, 10:46:47 PM
Back from a very filling Mexican dinner with my friend Debbie.  Her little daughter, whom I've known since she was born, is not thirteen.  I hadn't seen her since she was eleven - what a difference two years makes.  She's now quite the little adult, and very funny.
Hmmm...she's NOT thirteen, and you hadn't seen her since she was eleven, but there's a two year difference between how old she was then and how old she is now?

So, that makes her nine these days?

Y'know, there's lots of cosmetics companies that would love to know her secret.


 ::)
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: JoseSPiano on November 04, 2004, 10:52:41 PM
Does anyone else remember the HOOKED ON CLASSICS LP's?

Yes!  And I think I still have the piano sheet music for it too!  -Which, due to copyright restrictions, was not allowed to include "Rhapsody In Blue" (and maybe some other piece) in the published music.  I think I even played it as a solo for a school assembly when I was in sixth grade!
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: bk on November 04, 2004, 10:55:22 PM
SWW: I have NO idea what you're talking about.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Charles Pogue on November 04, 2004, 10:58:45 PM
I have some Pennario playing Rozsa.  I also had the privilege to see him perform live at Rozsa's memorial service where he played Valse Crepusculaire from PROVIDENCE and the theme from SPELLBOUND.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: S. Woody White on November 04, 2004, 11:05:11 PM
SWW: I have NO idea what you're talking about.
I love it when a man acts sweet and innocent.

 ;)
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: S. Woody White on November 04, 2004, 11:12:15 PM
There is an election that still has my interest going.

The two candidates for our local County Council seat, after running a good race, split 17480 votes almost cleanly between them.  The incumbent came in with 12 votes more.

This is a case where a recount is almost mandatory.  In fact, if I were the incumbent, I would have asked for a recount, just to settle any doubts.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Charles Pogue on November 04, 2004, 11:19:26 PM
Bk, you have a signed PROVIDENCE??!  Lucky you!

Which Barbara sang on your album?  She who bonded with The Lovely Wife?
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: bk on November 04, 2004, 11:24:34 PM
Yes, that Barbara.  Did a fine job.  I was at the Rozsa memorial, too.
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: S. Woody White on November 04, 2004, 11:29:11 PM
Dog update:

Lexi has rejoined her family, very happily!

Meanwhile, der B and I headed north for another photo session.  This time, we went to meet Jill, a hunting hound of some sort (der B has his notes somewhere, but I can't find them), who was taken in by a very nice family just a day ago.  Other than being very (understandably) disoriented, she's on the skinny side but sweet as pie.  The man who had her before had wanted a hunting dog, particularly for hunting geese and ducks.  Jill didn't understand this, and wouldn't leave his side.  Or maybe she's a vegetarian.

In any case, the family she's with right now (mom, dad, and three kids aged seven to two) are animal lovers, so I hope we've found some more allys in the long run.  (The two-year-old came running at me when I entered their house, armed with a PlaySkool truck.  I just widened the distance between my legs, and he zipped right under.  It didn't take long for that to turn into a game!)
Title: Re:TINKLING THE IVORIES
Post by: Charles Pogue on November 04, 2004, 11:49:26 PM
BK, you were at the Rozsa memorial?  Like ships in the night!  Surely I've told you that it was my single best day in Hollywood before and you never said a thing!  We were, in fact, sitting with Rudy Behlmer and his wife.  We are talking about the one Tony Thomas presided over at the Bel-Air Hotel.