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Title: A DIFFERENT DRUMMER
Post by: bk on June 15, 2004, 12:00:02 AM: Well, you've read the notes, you know the notes backwards and forwards and forwards and backwards, and now it is time to post every which way but loose.
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Post by: Tomovoz on June 15, 2004, 12:34:37 AM: Hayley Mills in "Tiger Bay" and "Whistle down The Wind", Jodie Foster in "The Little Girl Who Lives Down The Lane" and the remarkable H J Osment in "The Sixth Sense" and "AI". I liked the triplets in "The Shipping News" too. Paulette Goddard in "Modern Times". I guess she was still fairly young.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on June 15, 2004, 01:19:14 AM: Good Morning!

Why, Oh, Why am I not in bed yet?!?!?!

Ah, well...

I adored the young boy in "Cinema Paradiso", and also in his subsequent performance in another film - sorry both the name of the child actor and the other film escape me right now... Hey, give me a break, it's 4:15AM here in Richmond, VA?!?!? ;)

There are a few others, however, I've always admired the work of any child actor in any horror film. I just have to wonder if the studios ever keep psychiatrists or some other sort of professional on set should the need arise. I don't know how Linda Blair did it in "The Exorcist". As well as the aforementioned Hayley-Joel Osment in "The Sixth Sense".

Osment? Osmond? -Someone needs to get to sleep....

I'll come up with more specifics as soon as I wake up later today.

Oh, and BK - the Monty Python's "Spamalot" - is that the title of the piece? - sounds very interesting. I remember reading the casting breakdown - very eclectic to say the least.

Good Morning, and Goodnight.
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Post by: Michael on June 15, 2004, 03:57:43 AM: Judy Garland in The Wizard of Oz
Scott Jacoby in That Certain Summer and The Little Girl Who Lived Down the Lane
Tatum O'Neil in Paper Moon
Linda Blair in The Exorcist (all those 4 letter words she said) and her slew of victim roles after that Sarah T: Portrait of a Teenage Alcoholic, Born Innocent (and the infamous rape scene), Sweet Hostage, and then the film that began her downward spiral of bad film roles Victory at Entebbe.
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on June 15, 2004, 05:00:58 AM: Judy Garland in The Wizard of Oz
Hayley Mills in The Chalk Garden
Roddy McDowell in How Green Was My Valley
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Post by: Tomovoz on June 15, 2004, 05:11:05 AM: Thanks DR Jose. You see sleepy people (not quite dead).
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Post by: Tomovoz on June 15, 2004, 05:12:41 AM: Forgot to mention the Oscar nominee from "Whale Rider". Great performance.
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on June 15, 2004, 05:24:22 AM: Aside from the already mentioned:

Justin Henry in Kramer vs Kramer
Anna Paquin in The Piano
Christina Ricci in both Addams Family movies
Heather O'Rourke in Poltergeist
Heather Matarazzo in Welcome to the Dollhouse
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Post by: Matt H. on June 15, 2004, 05:34:37 AM: I think SPAMALOT is a risky proposition, but it could be nutty fun like FORUM if the score is interesting. I withhold judgment until I hear the score. (Won't this be the set show from hell?)
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Post by: Matt H. on June 15, 2004, 05:37:03 AM: Favorite child performances:

Claude Jarman, Jr. in THE YEARLING
Bobby Driscoll in THE WINDOW and SONG OF THE SOUTH
Patty Duke in THE MIRACLE WORKER
Judy Garland in THE WIZARD OF OZ
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on June 15, 2004, 05:54:53 AM: I'd love to see a movie made about the child actor "Bobbitt," who appears in the story of that name in Thomas Tryon's "Crowned Heads."
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on June 15, 2004, 05:59:51 AM: So what will we be serving at the HHW 50,000-post celebration?
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Post by: William E. Lurie on June 15, 2004, 06:19:25 AM: Patty McCormick in THE BAD SEED and Brandon deWilde in MEMBER OF THE WEDDING.

Regarding the Monty Python musical, it's all in the casting. If they can get people who are as crazy as the original --- and tailor the work to them --- it just might work initially. I always felt that Python skits started out great but then petered out. They didn't know how to end most of them, but the beginnings were so funny you almost didn't care.
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on June 15, 2004, 06:25:00 AM: The Dead End Kids (including Gabe Dell) in DEAD END.
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Post by: Jane on June 15, 2004, 06:48:30 AM: Panni, I still listen to things my mother told me, not that I listened when she was alive. I promised her to always clip coupons and to send in my Publisher’s House contests. Tomorrow she would have been 85.

BTW, a friend of my had a similar experience, no torn underwear but he was wearing a gag gift he had received of “big wopper” underwear.
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Post by: Panni on June 15, 2004, 06:49:36 AM: Good morning. Many of my favorite child performances have been listed. Let me add...
Jean-Pierre Leaud in LES QUATRE CENT COUPS
Natalie Wood in MIRACLE ON 34TH STREET
Jamie Bell in BILLY ELLIOT
Jodie Foster in TAXI DRIVER
Drew Barrymore in ET
The children in SMALL CHANGE
The group in STAND BY ME
The yet unknown boys who will one day play BENJAMIN KRITZER
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Post by: Jrand73 on June 15, 2004, 06:58:34 AM: Tuesday already! ;D

So many of my favorite child performances have been mentioned, so I am renominating several:

Hayley Mills in PT & POLLYANNA!
Judy in WOZ.
Bobby Driscoll in THE WINDOW.

I will also add:

Billy Gray in THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL
Tommy Rettig in RIVER OF NO RETURN
Harper Carter in TITANIC (1953)
DR Susan Gordon in THE FIVE PENNIES
Bobs Watson in ON BORROWED TIME
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Post by: Jrand73 on June 15, 2004, 07:00:32 AM: And here is your Allison Hayes picture of the Week!

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

She is supposed to be seeing a giant and a spaceship...but I imagine it's a teamster with a cigar in his mouth waving a tree branch at her!
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Post by: Jane on June 15, 2004, 07:00:41 AM: To add to the fine list of names, two boys who were wonderful in almost anything they did.

Dean Stockwell: THE BOY WITH THE GREEN HAIR and GENTLEMAN’S AGREEMENT.

Freddie Bartholomew: CAPTAINS COURAGOUS
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on June 15, 2004, 07:02:19 AM: I just read that they have arrested a suspect in the Robert Lees murder. The guy sort of looks like Jack Black. Here's a CNN link (http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/West/06/15/hollywood.homicides.ap/index.html)
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Post by: Jane on June 15, 2004, 07:22:27 AM: I hope they have the right person and he's off the streets. The mystery is why is did such a thing. Very sad.
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Post by: Jennifer on June 15, 2004, 07:26:19 AM: DR Jason: I did not see the WB's Superstar. Just wasn't my cup of tea. But can you tell me what happened at the end (assuming it's over). Was the person extremely annoyed to find out that the show has been mocking them?

Btw, come to think of it I did see a few minutes of it a week or two ago. And these people were awful beyond belief (I mean they made William Hung seem terrific). It was just so unbelievable to me that these kids thought they could sing. I really cannot believe that none of their friends or family would have clued them in throughout their life.
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Post by: Jennifer on June 15, 2004, 07:29:21 AM: And re: the name Coco

I think the fact that the child will have famous parents will help. I don't think anyone will mock her.

Btw, I guess they got them name from COurteney COx. It's a cute name, although I have not heard it used for a kid (only animals).
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Post by: MBarnum on June 15, 2004, 07:30:34 AM: Favorite child performances:

Ann Carter: Curse of the Cat People

Susan Gordon: Attack of the Puppet People

Bonita Granville and Marcia Mae Jones : These Three

Karen Dotrice: Three Lives of Thomasina

Donnie Dunagan: Son of Frankenstein
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on June 15, 2004, 07:30:56 AM: As soon as I can awaken the sleepyhead, we'll head west. BK, I hope you are not on a low-carb diet this week.
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Post by: Jrand73 on June 15, 2004, 07:52:31 AM: Thanks DTM - like DRJANE, I hope they found the right guy...and he DOES look like Jack Black!
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Post by: Matt H. on June 15, 2004, 08:01:30 AM: I really love Freddie Bartholemew in DAVID COPPERFIELD.

And let's not forget Shirley Temple. I think CAPTAIN JANUARY is her most accomplished work as a child.
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Post by: Matt H. on June 15, 2004, 08:03:17 AM: DR JRand, mentioning ON BORROWED TIME reminds me how much I enjoyed the MGM movie of it I saw on TCM several years ago. Always worth watching again.
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Post by: MBarnum on June 15, 2004, 08:20:02 AM: How could I have forgotten Shirley Temple! Wow...she was great in Baby Take a Bow and the one where James Dunn plays a pilot. Can't think of the title just at this moment.
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on June 15, 2004, 08:21:01 AM: Fact du jour:

"With disdain for appearances, Gustav Mahler made it a point to wear shabby hats and coats with torn linings."
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Post by: Panni on June 15, 2004, 08:29:18 AM: I want to add to my list of child performances
Sarah and Emma Bolger in IN AMERICA
...and it would be rude of me not to list (plus she did win the Emmy and a slew of other acting awards)
Kelsey Keel in MY LOUISIANA SKY
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Post by: bk on June 15, 2004, 08:29:18 AM: Yes, Spamalot, that's it. Not a wonderful title.
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Post by: bk on June 15, 2004, 08:29:29 AM: And one for Mahler.
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Post by: Panni on June 15, 2004, 08:31:18 AM: ...who did wear a hat.
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Post by: bk on June 15, 2004, 08:37:30 AM: Dear reader Jenny's lovely reviews of all three Kritzer books are up at amazon.com - check them out under their respective titles. And if you've read the books and haven't had time to do an amazon review (you know who you are, Mr. WFO, please take a few moments and do them - yes, it only takes a moment.
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on June 15, 2004, 08:46:22 AM: Quote from: MBarnum on June 15, 2004, 08:20:02 AM
How could I have forgotten Shirley Temple! Wow...she was great in Baby Take a Bow and the one where James Dunn plays a pilot. Can't think of the title just at this moment.

Shirley Temple was pretty amazing, especially when you consider the caliber of most of the other child actors of the time (for example, the little girl who played Bonnie Blue in GWTW.) Even when it was evident that the script or the director mechanically called for her to turn on the waterworks, Shirley always did it so sincerely and with such honesty that she never failed to tug my heartstrings. It's a shame that most people tend to think of parodies of her work rather than the real thing.

Quote from: Dan-in-Toronto on June 15, 2004, 08:21:01 AM
Fact du jour:

"With disdain for appearances, Gustav Mahler made it a point to wear shabby hats and coats with torn linings."

He sounds like he was the Boy George of his time.

Quote from: bk on June 15, 2004, 08:29:18 AM
Yes, Spamalot, that's it. Not a wonderful title.

I wonder if the show will recreate the false starts and multiple opening titles music from the film in the overture. That was pretty funny.

I'm trying to be economical with my posts until I attain Godhood. _{(Oh, how they will pay...yes, indeed, they shall all pay...)}
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Post by: Matt H. on June 15, 2004, 08:50:28 AM: Quote from: MBarnum on June 15, 2004, 08:20:02 AM
How could I have forgotten Shirley Temple! Wow...she was great in Baby Take a Bow and the one where James Dunn plays a pilot. Can't think of the title just at this moment.

I believe that's BRIGHT EYES. She sings "On the Good Ship Lollipop" in that one.

I also love HEIDI, THE LITTLE PRINCESS, and, of course, THE BLUE BIRD.
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Post by: Jennifer on June 15, 2004, 08:53:04 AM: Did anybody see the new reality show by Survivor & The Apprentice's Mark Burnett? It's called The Casino (or Casino, I forget which).

There was one thing in particular that I couldn't understand. There was this big guy who was gambling at their casino. And he was a professional gambler/card counter.

Anyhow, what I don't get is how REAL could this be if they had this guy hooked up to a mike and camera? I get if the owners or singer have cameras following them. But it seems peculiar to me for them to be watching this gambler (trying to check if he's cheating), when he OBVIOUSLY knows he's being filmed.
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Post by: Jay on June 15, 2004, 09:16:14 AM: Of the Shirley Temple pix I've seen, I think I like The Little Coloniel best, in which there's a marvelous sequence during which Miss Temple and Mr. Bill Robinson do a terrific dance together.
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Post by: George on June 15, 2004, 09:17:52 AM: Quote from: Jane on June 15, 2004, 06:48:30 AM
Panni, I still listen to things my mother told me, not that I listened when she was alive. I promised her to always clip coupons and to send in my Publisher’s House contests. Tomorrow she would have been 85.

Jane, tomorrow is my mother's birthday, too. She will be 62.

As for the Topic of the Day, I haven't thought of any that haven't already been mentioned, but here are the child performers that I like:

Drew Barrymore and Henry Thomas in "E.T. the Extra- Terrestrial"
Jamie Bell in "Billy Elliot"
Judy Garland in "The Wizard of Oz"
Kelsey Keel in "My Louisiana Sky"
Patty McCormick in "The Bad Seed" (I finally got to see this a few weeks ago!)
Tatum O'Neil in "Paper Moon"
Haley Joel Osment in "The Sixth Sense" and "Artificial Intelligence"
Natalie Wood in "Miracle on 34th Street"
Shirley Temple in just about anything
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Post by: bk on June 15, 2004, 09:20:47 AM: Say, where in tarnation IS everyone?

The little kids in Forbidden Games were wonderful. The girl in Pennies from Heaven (Bing Crosby version).
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on June 15, 2004, 09:32:47 AM: For those not aware of Canada's upcoming national election (June 28), here's a summary from Globe and Mail writer Margaret Wente:

I hate explaining Canadian politics to my American friends. "Things are going pretty well up here," I tell them. "The economy is booming. Everyone is glad we stayed out of the mess in Iraq. The separatist threat has died right down. Most people are pretty content with the government's policies, and they think our new Prime Minister's a very decent guy. So what we're going to do is throw him out and elect a guy we don't know much about who wants to fundamentally overhaul our country."
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Post by: George on June 15, 2004, 09:46:35 AM: How could I forget Tatum O'Neal in "The Bad News Bears." Also, Ian Michael Smith in "Simon Birch."
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on June 15, 2004, 09:47:38 AM: Phillip Alford, Mary Badham & John Megna -- "To Kill A Mockingbird"

Hayley Mills -- "Pollyanna"

Kevin Corcoran -- "Toby Tyler," "Old Yeller," "Swiss Family Robinson"

Ann Jillian -- "Gypsy"

Kurt Russell -- "Follow Me, Boys"

Ron Howard -- "The Music Man", "Courtship of Eddie's Father"

Brandon Cruz -- "Courtship of Eddie's Father" (TV)

Henry Thomas -- "Raggedy Man", "E.T."

Tim Hovey -- "Toy Tiger"
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Post by: JoseSPiano on June 15, 2004, 09:51:06 AM: Quote from: Tomovoz on June 15, 2004, 05:11:05 AM
Thanks DR Jose. You see sleepy people (not quite dead).

What'd I do? ??? What'd I do?!?
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Post by: Tomovoz on June 15, 2004, 10:00:41 AM: Let's just say I was able to modify my stupidity!
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Post by: Tomovoz on June 15, 2004, 10:02:55 AM: It's 3.00 am here in Melbourne. I am keeping Jose type hours. Next you know I'll be cleaning the house and eating chocolate whilst I bake cakes. Back to bed.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on June 15, 2004, 10:03:03 AM: Good Afternoon!

OK! OK!! I'm up already!!!... Just five more minutes.... OK!...

After reading everyone else's choices for the Topic of the Day.... Sheesh! How could I have forgotten _____?!?!?!

*Especially the Bolger sisters in "In America".

Back to dawdling... Well, actually watching "The Young & The Restless".... -well, like I said, dawdling. ;)
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Post by: JoseSPiano on June 15, 2004, 10:06:19 AM: Quote from: Tomovoz on June 15, 2004, 10:02:55 AM
It's 3.00 am here in Melbourne. I am keeping Jose type hours. Next you know I'll be cleaning the house and eating chocolate whilst I bake cakes. Back to bed.

LOL!

-Just be sure to set out the butter to soften before you start anything... And I really do like "flouring" the pans with cocoa powder when making chocolate cakes... And, remember, that second mixing bowl for the Kitchen Aid stand mixer really does come in handy...
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Post by: TCB on June 15, 2004, 10:35:52 AM: Quote from: Jennifer on June 15, 2004, 07:29:21 AM
And re: the name Coco

I think the fact that the child will have famous parents will help. I don't think anyone will mock her.

Btw, I guess they got them name from COurteney COx. It's a cute name, although I have not heard it used for a kid (only animals).

I am not sure that Miss Chanel would like being called an animal.
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Post by: Panni on June 15, 2004, 10:43:57 AM: This is truly nutty and a tad unprofessional 'cause I've been doing this for so long I should be able to do it no matter what, BUT... please, DRs, send me good writing vibes.
Thanking you in advance.
...Ms. Staring at the Screen
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Post by: Jane on June 15, 2004, 10:49:50 AM: Panni, yes mustn’t forget Kelsey Keel in MY LOUISIANA SKY. We enjoyed both her performance and the movie very much.

George, happy birthday to your mother.

And to Ms. Staring at the screen GOOD WRITING VIBES!
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Post by: Jennifer on June 15, 2004, 10:56:54 AM: You should not feel bad about asking for vibes if you need them.

Good writing vibes to DR Panni.

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Post by: Panni on June 15, 2004, 10:57:07 AM: Thanks, Jane. Here I go...
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Post by: Panni on June 15, 2004, 10:58:10 AM: ...And merci aussi to Jennifer in good old Canada!
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Post by: George on June 15, 2004, 10:58:57 AM: [move=right,scroll,6,transparent,100%]~~~~Much Rightly Writing Vibage to Panni!!~~~~[/move]
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Post by: Jennifer on June 15, 2004, 11:05:25 AM: Ha, my vibes didn't want to take. :(

For some reason part of the code kept showing up.

Oh well, now you will just have purple vibes instead of multicolor vibes.
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on June 15, 2004, 11:07:35 AM: [move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]DANCING WITH THE KEYBOARD WRITING VIBES FOR DR PANNI!!![/move]
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Post by: Jennifer on June 15, 2004, 11:08:52 AM: Does anyone use yahoo mail? They seem to have changed it. So far I'm not crazy about the new look (i hate change). But we shall see.
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Post by: Maya on June 15, 2004, 11:17:51 AM: I'm rather excited about "Spamelot!" Then again, I'm pretty excited about the 2004-2005 season in general!

Favorite performances by children in movies:

Jean-Pierre Leaud in "Les Quatre Cent Coups"
Haley Joel Osment in "The Sixth Sense" and "A.I."
Judy Garland in "The Wizard of Oz"
Evan Rachel Wood in "Thirteen"

Good vibes to Panni!!
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Post by: Jay on June 15, 2004, 11:22:42 AM: May the gods of inspiration descend upon the Dear Reader known as Panni, so that words of untold drama, emotion and humor may flow forth in torrents.
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Post by: TCB on June 15, 2004, 11:26:20 AM: I feel I must clear my conscience and make a confession. It is not easy to admit, but hopefully, as my friends, you can find it in your heart to forgive me:

I do not like Shirley Temple… as an actress, I mean. I am sure she is a nice person, and she did a swell job in the U.N., but my God, I dislike her films. I disliked them as a child, I disliked them as a teen, and I still dislike them to this very day. For me, the only thing worse than thinking about her movies, is contemplating what the world would be like if Shirley had made THE WIZARD OF OZ, instead of Judy.

There. I feel better already.

Favorite Child Performances:

Haley Joel Osment in THE SIXTH SENSE

Judy Garland in OZ (love those prison scenes)

Deanna Durbin in ONE HUNDRED MEN AND A GIRL

Elizabeth Taylor in NATIONAL VELVET

Mickey Rooney in CAPTAINS COURAGEOUS
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Post by: Ben on June 15, 2004, 11:26:35 AM: It's our Maya Papaya! Hi, Miss Fruity ;-)

Jennifer, Yahoo Mail has made some changes to keep up with Google. Google has started a free mail service offering a gigabyte of mail storage and the ability to send and receive larger attachments. Yahoo, as one of the reining kings of free mail, wanted to keep their users so they have added storage space and made changes to the size of attachments (you can now send and receive 10 meg attachments). Those are the major changes (aside from the look of the page) as I understand it.

Most of my favorite child performers have been mentioned already so I won't repeat. If I think of another one, I will chime in to the discussion.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on June 15, 2004, 11:30:28 AM: Margaret O'Brien -- "Meet Me in St. Lous," "Journey for Margaret"

Dean Stockwell -- "The Secret Garden," "The Boy With the Green Hair," "Down to the Sea in Ships," "Kim"

Andrew Ray -- "The Mudlark"

Billy & Bobby Mauch -- "The Prince and the Pauper"

Jack Wild -- "Oliver!"
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Post by: Charles Pogue on June 15, 2004, 11:40:24 AM: Uh...? No one for Brandon DeWilde in SHANE?

I nominate Bobs Watson as the most irritating child actor ever. Particularly when he turned on the waterworks. Usually when he rears his cutesy head, my rallying cry is: "Kill the kid!" Thankfully in Boys Town and Dodge City they do...wonderfully in Dodge City, dragged by horses.

Jackie Cooper in THE CHAMP is rather amazing. And Margaret O' Brien in MEET ME IN ST. LOUIS. And I love Virginia Weidler in PHILADELPHIA STORY.
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Post by: Jrand73 on June 15, 2004, 11:43:28 AM: Yes MATTH and MBARNUM, that is BRIGHT EYES. Whew! Shirley's Mom gets hit by a car running for a bus. She is carrying a birthday cake for Shirley's birthday.... Then Dunn takes Shirley up in the plane for the first time....to tell her....and Shirley is excited to go all the way up to heaven to see her daddy a pilot that cracked up...and Dunn explains what happened...and Shirley understands and says...."You mean...you mean...my mama cracked up?" Yup...always makes me cry.

And yes...

Patty McCormick in The Bad Seed
Darryl Hickman in Leave Her to Heaven
Virginia Weidler in The Philadelphia Story
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Post by: Jane on June 15, 2004, 11:52:05 AM: Great new additions!

TCB I don’t know about you now-not liking Shirley Temple, my goodness. As cute as, IMHO, she was, I am very happy she did not do THE WIZARD OF OZ. If she had we would most likely have had a remake of the film by now.
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Post by: Maya on June 15, 2004, 11:54:20 AM: Quote from: Ben on June 15, 2004, 11:26:35 AM
It's our Maya Papaya! Hi, Miss Fruity ;-)

Hola, Ben!! ;D
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Post by: td on June 15, 2004, 11:55:55 AM: Well, most of my faves have been mentioned, including SON OF FRANKENSTEIN, but, I will throw JERRY MAGUIRE'S Jonathan Lipnicki.
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Post by: Panni on June 15, 2004, 12:07:23 PM: Quote from: Charles Pogue on June 15, 2004, 11:40:24 AM
Uh...? No one for Brandon DeWilde in SHANE?

Me. And in MEMBER OF THE WEDDING and HUD. Died much too young.

Thanks for all the WRITING VIBES! It's been going okay this morning. Welcome back, Maya!!
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Post by: MBarnum on June 15, 2004, 12:09:25 PM: And let us not forget some of the very talented tikes in the Our Gang comedies...Spanky McFarlane was great as a toddler (got a bit tired of him as he grew older, though), and Jackie Cooper was always good!

...Um, I don't think I will mention Froggy or Janet though! LOL!
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Post by: MBarnum on June 15, 2004, 12:12:10 PM: I think Shirley Temple was adorable in her earlier films...around the late 1930 early 40s I don't care for her as much.

Yes, Bright Eyes is the one...what a weeper! I just picked that up on DVD and must remember to watch it one of these days!

You know I picked up the 3 CD set of Shirley Temple and it has every song from all of her movies! TCB maybe you would like me to make you a copy of it! LOL!
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Post by: Jrand73 on June 15, 2004, 12:21:59 PM: TCB did you write your letter to you know who?
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Post by: JoseSPiano on June 15, 2004, 12:35:04 PM: -Currently listening to NPR's "Fresh Air"... David Sedaris is the guest.

;D
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Post by: Jane on June 15, 2004, 12:37:59 PM: Wish I had time to listen.
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Post by: Panni on June 15, 2004, 01:00:16 PM: Quote from: JoseSPiano on June 15, 2004, 12:35:04 PM
-Currently listening to NPR's "Fresh Air"... David Sedaris is the guest.

I like Sedaris on "This American Life." I like anybody on "This American Life." But I haven't listened to "This American Life" since I moved to LA. That would be 7 months ago. Wow! Some cliches are cliches because they are SO true. Like "Time flies."
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on June 15, 2004, 01:04:47 PM: Jodie Foster and Alfred Lutter III -- "Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore"

Linda Blair -- "The Exorcist"

Leonardo DiCaprio -- "What's Eating Gilbert Grape"

Corey Haim (!)) -- "The Lost Boys"

Mariel Hemingway -- "Manhattan"

Kirsten Dunst -- "Interview With the Vampire"
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Post by: Jrand73 on June 15, 2004, 01:07:04 PM: DRPANNI - keep working...good vibes coming down the steps to ya!
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Post by: Matt H. on June 15, 2004, 01:15:19 PM: Quote from: Jay on June 15, 2004, 09:16:14 AM
Of the Shirley Temple pix I've seen, I think I like The Little Coloniel best, in which there's a marvelous sequence during which Miss Temple and Mr. Bill Robinson do a terrific dance together.

Actually Shirley dances with Bill Bojangles Robinson in four films: THE LITTLE COLONEL, THE LITTLEST REBEL, JUST AROUND THE CORNER, and REBECCA OF SUNNYBROOK FARM, but I'm thinking you're remembering the staircase dance she did with Bill which was excerpted in THAT'S DANCIN'. That is from THE LITTLE COLONEL. The routine she does with him in THE LITTLEST REBEL is even more elaborate and impressive to me.
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Post by: Matt H. on June 15, 2004, 01:21:32 PM: The three Shirley Temple films that Fox deigned to release on DVD are in terrible shape. They are obviously ported from video masters because they're fuzzy and full of damage. They did provide the black and white and colorized versions of these films (not that that's a favor, but I guess it's the black and white ones that were the afterthought), but it's odd that they haven't put out any other ones of hers, and they have lots to pick from.
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Post by: Matt H. on June 15, 2004, 01:23:05 PM: I spent a pleasant afternoon with my MONK boxed set from Season 1. Today I watched the pilot (which was in TV-movie length and format) and the first actual episode. Funny, endearing, treasurable. Glad to have this set.
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on June 15, 2004, 01:24:37 PM: Diana Lynn in The Major and the Minor
Virginia Weidler in The Philadelphia Story
Cary Guffey in Close Encounters of the 3rd Kind
Quinn Cummings in The Goodbye Girl

And, if we can believe her accounts about her age when she made this movie, Ann Miller in Stage Door.
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Post by: Jennifer on June 15, 2004, 01:52:13 PM: I am making ribs tonight!

And fries. And ice cream.

Don't tell the low carb police! :)
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Post by: Jennifer on June 15, 2004, 01:53:36 PM: Wow, where did everybody go?
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on June 15, 2004, 02:06:46 PM: I watched the "Sondheim: Celebration at Carnegie Hall" DVD last night.

How poignant to watch Dorothy Loudon's wonderful "Losing My Mind/You Could Drive A Person Crazy" number.

And how wonderful Liza was!
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Post by: JoseSPiano on June 15, 2004, 02:28:20 PM: Quote from: Jane on June 15, 2004, 12:37:59 PM
Wish I had time to listen.

I believe NPR archives the shows on their site: www.npr.org

-Very funny interview... and a few touching, sad moments too.
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Post by: TCB on June 15, 2004, 02:29:36 PM: Quote from: MBarnum on June 15, 2004, 12:12:10 PM
I think Shirley Temple was adorable in her earlier films...around the late 1930 early 40s I don't care for her as much.

Yes, Bright Eyes is the one...what a weeper! I just picked that up on DVD and must remember to watch it one of these days!

You know I picked up the 3 CD set of Shirley Temple and it has every song from all of her movies! TCB maybe you would like me to make you a copy of it! LOL!

Ahhh, no.
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Post by: TCB on June 15, 2004, 02:30:37 PM: Quote from: JRand53 on June 15, 2004, 12:21:59 PM
TCB did you write your letter to you know who?

Ahhh, no.
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Post by: Jrand73 on June 15, 2004, 03:14:27 PM: Well then don't expect a response, TCB. He is talented but he is not psychic....LOL. He is also NOT getting any younger!

Sometimes....as a director...it is hard just to wear the "acting" hat. This director is so unorganized, we were supposed to block Act Two last night, but he decided we would do Act Three instead. Which really didn't matter because he has divided the play up differently than it's printed. I said just tell me the PAGES we are rehearsing. We are supposed to do my big scene tonight, but who knows.

I also hate driving 35 miles to do two lines in a scene I otherwise have nothing else to do in....and he doesn't block specifically...so of course everybody goes to a different place during the next rehearsal and he yells at us because we aren't where we are supposed to be....

Oh well....I wish I would follow my own rules:

Never do tech or otherwise work on a play you wanted to be in.
Never act in a play you originally wanted to direct.

On the other hand....we got our Phantom of the Opera tickets for the Sunday, November 14, matinee. Nothing left in our price range but seats in the next to last row of the balcony. I think for us it will be a show about a chandelier!
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Post by: Jrand73 on June 15, 2004, 03:14:44 PM: Off to....uh....rehearsal.
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Post by: S. Woody White on June 15, 2004, 03:17:37 PM: Quote from: Dan-in-Toronto on June 15, 2004, 05:54:53 AM
I'd love to see a movie made about the child actor "Bobbitt," who appears in the story of that name in Thomas Tryon's "Crowned Heads."
Hear Hear! And I want the excerpts from the films he made as a child to be filmed in the original Technicolor process, for authenticity's sake.
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Post by: td on June 15, 2004, 03:36:29 PM: Did a little more thinking, and don't recall these ones being mentioned (well, except for Ms. Badham):

Billy Chapin, Sally Jane Bruce - THE NIGHT OF THE HUNTER
Mary Badhan - TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD
Alikina Mann, James Bentley - THE OTHERS
Richard Beaumont - SCROOGE's Tiny Tim
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Post by: bk on June 15, 2004, 03:39:22 PM: Totally forgot one of the greatest child performances ever: Jackie Coogan in The Kid. Brilliant.

Thanks to all for keeping the home fries burning. I'm dealing with a lot of disgusting decision-making right now.
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Post by: S. Woody White on June 15, 2004, 03:45:59 PM: TOD:

Auntie Mame's Jan Handzlik as Young Patrick. Hey, he managed to hold his own against Roz Russell in her greatest impersonation of a drag queen!

Jurassic Park's Ariana Richards, as Lex. A likeable young woman, holding her own as the "not as cute" older sibling in a Spielberg film.
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Post by: S. Woody White on June 15, 2004, 03:48:47 PM: The driver of the delivery truck at work today was two hours late. We had lots of fun catching up with unloading and sorting out the merchandise. (We also had lots of fun standing around waiting for him to arrive, I lied.)

The delivery driver himself was frightening. He was wearing his hair in a mullett...and had a Friar Tuck bald spot. NOT a good combination.

:-\
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Post by: S. Woody White on June 15, 2004, 03:52:48 PM: Der Brucer found a smallish pork loin roast for dinner tonight, should be enough for just the two of us. I need to check and see if we have any rosemary around; if not, thyme will be nice too, and that's growing in the garden. A few sprigs tied to the roast should add some nice flavor.

Also, fresh sweet corn, on the cob, of course. But what to do for potatoes...decisions, decisions. (I do have some red rose taters that I could quarter and roast, maybe with some green bell peppers for color.)
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on June 15, 2004, 03:59:27 PM: Quote from: S. Woody White on June 15, 2004, 03:52:48 PM
Der Brucer found a smallish pork loin roast for dinner tonight.

Where'd he find it?
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on June 15, 2004, 04:07:33 PM: Quote from: Jennifer on June 15, 2004, 01:52:13 PM
I am making ribs tonight!

And fries. And ice cream.

Don't tell the low carb police! :)

(Or the kosher cops.)
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Post by: Panni on June 15, 2004, 04:07:53 PM: Thanks or the vibes, SWW.
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Post by: Robin on June 15, 2004, 04:22:30 PM: The single most remarkable child performance I have ever seen belongs to the 4-year-old Miss Victorie Thivisol in a French movie called Ponette. It's a movie that deals with young Ponette's loss of her mother; it's an often heart-wrenching film, but certainly not a bleak one, since it's about accepting loss, not wallowing in it.

There's a scene in which Ponette's well-meaning auntie tells her that little girls aren't supposed to be so sad...and she looks up and says "Yes. I am."

Even more impressive...she plays the entire role in French! Heck, I can't even order from a French menu, and here's this little girl, speaking French for the entire length of the movie. That's talent, my friends.
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Post by: Robin on June 15, 2004, 04:25:42 PM: Michael and I had a lite dinner at a local bistro called Joe's Garage. I had a Greek lamb-burger with sundried tomatoes and feta cheese, with a side order of mixed greens and (rare for me!) an actual martini, with an olive and everything. It was all quite yummy.
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Post by: S. Woody White on June 15, 2004, 04:31:04 PM: Thanks for the reminder, Robin, of films French, for I had forgotten Pascal Lamorisse as the little boy in The Red Balloon.

(I just learned over at IMDB that a spoof has been made, called The Revenge of The Red Balloon. Forty years later, the balloon returns to Paris, to revenge itself upon the little boys (now middle aged) who popped it in the first film! The idea sounds good, no idea about the execution.)
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Post by: Jane on June 15, 2004, 04:33:59 PM: Jrand I like the slinky. :D
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Post by: bk on June 15, 2004, 04:48:26 PM: Thank you, Jane. The bigger the better.
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on June 15, 2004, 05:14:16 PM: Quote from: S. Woody White on June 15, 2004, 04:31:04 PM
Thanks for the reminder, Robin, of films French, for I had forgotten Pascal Lamorisse as the little boy in The Red Balloon.

(I just learned over at IMDB that a spoof has been made, called The Revenge of The Red Balloon. Forty years later, the balloon returns to Paris, to revenge itself upon the little boys (now middle aged) who popped it in the first film! The idea sounds good, no idea about the execution.)

Maybe Skinny and Fatty: Middle Age Crazy will be next.

The Red Balloon and Skinny and Fatty are the only movies I can recall that were shown on the Children's Film Festival (hosted by Kukula, Fran and Ollie.) Can anyone name any others?
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Post by: Panni on June 15, 2004, 05:17:33 PM: Quote from: Robin on June 15, 2004, 04:22:30 PM
The single most remarkable child performance I have ever seen belongs to the 4-year-old Miss Victorie Thivisol in a French movie called Ponette.

Yes! I totally forgot about that film. (How could I??) She WAS totally remarkable. Which brings up an interesting question... At such a tender age, is it a "performance" or does the child simply believe the moment. (Which I suppose is the definition of great acting - so we've come full circle.)
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Post by: bk on June 15, 2004, 05:33:31 PM: Off to the Cinegrill. Keep the home fries burning - at the rate we're going we surely will not reach 50,000 posts by Friday, as things are a bit slow around these here parts. Then again, surprises are always waiting around the corner.
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Post by: td on June 15, 2004, 06:07:45 PM: . . .and speaking of red balloons, how could I forget Rufus Deakin in AN AMERICAN WEREWOLF IN LONDON?!?!
Here's a kid who manages to steal an entire scene from a totally naked David "I'm a Pepper" Naughton!
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on June 15, 2004, 06:17:51 PM: Chris and Martin Udvarnoky -- "The Other"
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Post by: Robin on June 15, 2004, 06:28:46 PM: I'm bidding on a book (Kane of Old Mars, by Michael Moorcock) on eBay. Wish me good luck...!
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Post by: Robin on June 15, 2004, 06:31:03 PM: Howsabout Hayley Mills in Pollyanna?

Love that movie!
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Post by: Robin on June 15, 2004, 06:32:22 PM: And one for Mahler.
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Post by: Tomovoz on June 15, 2004, 06:46:51 PM: I watched a remarkable Iranian film a couple of years ago with remarkable performances from children (I have a feeling the title mentioned shoes). The child in "Central Station" (Brazil) was also wonderful. I think DR Panni is "spot on" with her "in the moment" comment. There are also some great performances in the Australian film "Rabbit Proof Fence".
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Post by: Robin on June 15, 2004, 06:51:19 PM: Dang it! I lost!!!
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on June 15, 2004, 07:27:13 PM: I've been trying for hours to think of the title of this movie - and finally got it: The Fallen Idol, directed by Carol Reed (from the story by Graham Greene), with a wonderful performance by a child actor named Bobby Henrey. (According to the IMDB, he hasn't appeared in anything else.) The story is told from the child's point of view, and the youngster's performance is unforgettable - even if the movie's title isn't.
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Post by: Kerry on June 15, 2004, 07:50:21 PM: Oh how I wish Iwere there with you and DR Sandra and DR Laura to see DP Jason. That's DP for Dear Performer. Send Jason a big hug for me. A hug for all of you! S and L tried to talk me into going with them. I was tempted. Oh yes, I was tempted. The timing was not right, though and I knew it. It's not wise to go against something you feel is not right.
I may regret not going ( I do now at the thought of all of you there). I hope there's another chance.

Meanwhile, while it"s still light out, I've been picking peaches from the trees in the yard. Peak harvesting time is probably still a few days off, but there are still some wonderful jewels to be had. And juicy too! I've already stained two t-shirts. That doesn't include the t-shirts stained from the nectarines and first batch of peaches (another variety) from a few weeks ago.

I'll be back with some kid performances later.

One of them would have to be Dean Stockwell in almost anything, but particularly in "The Boy with Green Hair" and even in "Anchors Aweigh."
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Post by: Kerry on June 15, 2004, 07:51:29 PM: td-- NOTHING could steal the scene from a totally naked David Naughton!!!!
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Post by: Tomovoz on June 15, 2004, 07:52:28 PM: Always wonderful to see you here DR Kerry.
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Post by: Kerry on June 15, 2004, 07:52:50 PM: Tom,

Can I have a live hug?
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Post by: Kerry on June 15, 2004, 07:53:51 PM: Tom, you too my dear friend. Yes, I'm here. Well, almost all of me is here. Part of me is at the Cinegrill I think.
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Post by: Kerry on June 15, 2004, 07:57:09 PM: I'm off again. No glamorous nightclubs for me. Oh no. I have dinner to make and clothes to wash. Thrilling as always.
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Post by: Tomovoz on June 15, 2004, 07:57:44 PM: Next year is a chance Kerry! Organise for the tour of "Wicked" to be in Phoenix about October!
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Post by: Michael on June 15, 2004, 08:11:12 PM: watching Happiest Millionaire. truly dreadful. So far no one memorably song. Fred McMurray's 1st song sounds a lot like A British Bank from Mary Poppins. did Greer Garson sing her on her own. Eddie Hodges from Broadway's Music Man came and went very quickly. As did Paul Peterson. Thankfully it is almost an 1 hr into the film and no John Davidson.
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Post by: Michael on June 15, 2004, 08:13:25 PM: spoke too soon he makes his entrance at the 54 and a half minute mark. I guess he was good looking.
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Post by: Jrand73 on June 15, 2004, 08:13:38 PM: Where's for lunch DRs Joy and Noel and Mr BK?

And how about those irritating child performances in movies? I would think that television moppets would be too numerous to mention.

I will start with:

Miss Evelyn Rudie....who was ELOISE on tv (broke my rule) and co starred with Lauren Bacall in The Gift of Love.
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Post by: Jrand73 on June 15, 2004, 08:15:33 PM: OMG....Evelyn Rudie is now the Artistic Director of the Santa Monica Playhouse. :o
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Post by: Matt H. on June 15, 2004, 08:16:20 PM: No one has mentioned Peggy Ann Garner in A TREE GROWS IN BROOKLYN yet. She won a special Oscar for that. I have to admit, I've never seen that movie all the way through.
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Post by: Matt H. on June 15, 2004, 08:18:39 PM: I find Jane Withers as a child actress irritating.
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Post by: Matt H. on June 15, 2004, 08:19:49 PM: Another child performer I liked was Darryl Hickman. Yes, baby brother Dwayne became better known as Dobie Gillis, but Darryl as a young boy in some MGM films is very appealing.
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Post by: Tomovoz on June 15, 2004, 08:20:07 PM: Didn't mind Johnny Crawford's as a singer but I loathed him in "Rifleman". Can't remember ever watching the Donna Reed show so have no opinion of Paul Petersen. Didn't ever watch the Partridge Family nor the Brady Bunch. "My Three Sons" I remember quite fondly. Didn't like Jay North as Dennis much but "The Beaver" was fine.
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Post by: S. Woody White on June 15, 2004, 08:23:55 PM: If we're going to start listing irritating kids in the movies (and not just those seated with us), I nominate Eric Shea, in The Poopside-Down Adventure. Danged brat, Shelley Winters must have been gagging every time she had to say he was "such a dear, sweet boy." I can hear her now: "Is it time for my heart attack yet? Oh, thank GAWD! I'm outta here!"
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Post by: S. Woody White on June 15, 2004, 08:25:44 PM: Listing TV brats is cheating, way too easy! (Can we say Olson Twins? Do we need to?)
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Post by: Jrand73 on June 15, 2004, 08:25:54 PM: LOL....dRMATTH have you ever seen Jane Withers is a movie called - I think - THE GIRL FROM AVENUE A? She plays a little girl who does good deeds for people and is really quite sweet, the opposite of what she usually played.
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Post by: Jenny on June 15, 2004, 08:28:47 PM: By far the most talented children to ever appear in a motion picture are those random tap dancing boys and girls from "An Affair To Remember". Is there any reason for that scene to be in the movie?
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Post by: S. Woody White on June 15, 2004, 08:29:31 PM: Irritating brat nominee, female: Monique Vermont, as Amaryllis in the original Music Man. Winthrop wasn't lisping, he was trying to get the bad taste out of his mouth!
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Post by: Jenny on June 15, 2004, 08:29:50 PM: Quote from: S. Woody White on June 15, 2004, 08:23:55 PM
If we're going to start listing irritating kids in the movies...

How about the three children from "Houseboat"? ::shudders::
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Post by: Matt H. on June 15, 2004, 08:31:47 PM: I've seen Jane in a few B-movies where she played nice and not mean as she did in A-features. Whether mean or nice, I just find her irritating. I understand she's one of the nicest people ever in Hollywood, but I'm strictly speaking of her child persona. Didn't mind her as an adult performer at all.
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Post by: Jrand73 on June 15, 2004, 08:38:26 PM: LOL....isn't that interesting, MATTH. I know some performers that other people enjoy that I can't watch.....chemistry between a performer and the audience (or majority of it) can make a star....or break one.

IT!!! Or I guess....ya gotta have eeeeeeeeeee-oooooooooooooo!
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Post by: Jrand73 on June 15, 2004, 09:05:20 PM: Time for bed..........................
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on June 15, 2004, 09:11:08 PM: Irritating movie brat (more of a TV brat, actually): Pamelyn Ferdin. It was not just her mannerisms that made me dislike her, it was her voice! She ruined a lot of Charlie Brown specials for me during her tenure as Lucy.

I've read where she's an animal rights activist these days for an organization that believes that animals should have the right to vote.
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Post by: TCB on June 15, 2004, 09:17:22 PM: Quote from: Tomovoz on June 15, 2004, 07:57:44 PM
Next year is a chance Kerry! Organise for the tour of "Wicked" to be in Phoenix about October!

Which role will you be playing, Mr. Oz?
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Post by: TCB on June 15, 2004, 09:24:26 PM: On the good side of child actors, did anyone mention Ron Howard? He was so enduring in THE MUSIC MAN. Oh wait, maybe that was Buddy Hackett.

As for the original PARENT TRAP, I liked Haley Mills, but I didn't care for the girl who played her sister.
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Post by: TCB on June 15, 2004, 09:28:07 PM: Well, Dan the Man, welcome to the West Coasters club. We usually plot world domination when we are together, but I suppose we can skip that tonight, since you are here.[/font]
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Post by: Panni on June 15, 2004, 09:29:26 PM: Quote from: JRand53 on June 15, 2004, 08:15:33 PM
OMG....Evelyn Rudie is now the Artistic Director of the Santa Monica Playhouse. :o

Yes, in my previous life in LA, my ex-husband directed a play there, so I knew her slightly at the time. My daughter still owns two pair of red cotton bikini undies which have Santa Monica Playhouse written on them. Classy. I got them as a present at the time and passed them on to her. Call me crazy, but I didn't want them.

(This is my second post about underwear in two days. Hmmmm....)
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Post by: Jason on June 15, 2004, 09:36:45 PM: Dear Readers, I don't know whether to cry or to vomit on the floor. I have a roach in my apartment. I swear to the god of household pests, I don't know if I can take much more. First it was mice, and now I've got a roach!! And it's two inches long...at least. I saw it last night and then it disappeared, but I saw it again tonight and I so desperately want to kill it and be done. This is only the second time in the two years I've lived in this apartment that I've seen a roach...it had better not indicate future problems.
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on June 15, 2004, 09:37:39 PM: Quote from: TCB on June 15, 2004, 09:28:07 PM
Well, Dan the Man, welcome to the West Coasters club. We usually plot world domination when we are together, but I suppose we can skip that tonight, since you are here.[/font]

Yeah, I'm on to the whole lot of you. Better cut me in on the deal or I'm gonna send a link to this here website to the World News Weekly and blow your whole deal sky high.

Just watched the Beastie Boys on Letterman. Aren't these guys pushing 35? And they're still doing frat boy rap. They did a live single shot walk from the subway to the Letterman Theatre and they looked winded.

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Dear Readers, I don't know whether to cry or to vomit on the floor. I have a roach in my apartment. I swear to the god of household pests, I don't know if I can take much more. First it was mice, and now I've got a roach!! And it's two inches long...at least. I saw it last night and then it disappeared, but I saw it again tonight and I so desperately want to kill it and be done. This is only the second time in the two years I've lived in this apartment that I've seen a roach...it had better not indicate future problems.

You better get a humane trap to capture it and then set it free in the wild or Pamelyn Ferdin will be all over your ass.
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Post by: Jrand73 on June 15, 2004, 09:40:22 PM: Hahaha...I didn't go to bed!

I am trying to think of another site where Evelyn Rudie and red cotton bikini undies could be mentioned in one sentence...and now two sentences. Classy indeed, DRPANNI.

Mr BK - is in all likelihood enjoying the inflated prices at the Cinegrill even as we speak...and I hope he remembers that its home The Knickerbocker Hotel...is where Miss Frances Farmer was arrested on that infamous morning....dragged kicking and screaming and half dressed through the lobby on her way to the Santa Monica Police Station....I don't think she was wearing red bikini undies....
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Post by: Panni on June 15, 2004, 09:42:31 PM: Quote from: Jason on June 15, 2004, 09:36:45 PM
Dear Readers, I don't know whether to cry or to vomit on the floor. I have a roach in my apartment.

Ewwwww. (http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/tiere/animal-smiley-087.gif)
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Post by: Jrand73 on June 15, 2004, 09:43:46 PM: Frances Farmer doing the Page Six Dance!!! :P
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Post by: Jrand73 on June 15, 2004, 09:44:43 PM: DRJASON - buy some of those electronic bug and mouse zappers that you plug into the wall....they really really work!!!
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Post by: Jrand73 on June 15, 2004, 09:46:08 PM: DRPANNI - here is Evelyn as you probably remember her. 8)
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Post by: Jason on June 15, 2004, 09:46:10 PM: Tell that to my roach. I have two of those things, JRand.
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Post by: Jrand73 on June 15, 2004, 09:47:04 PM: Hmmmmmmmmmmmm......must be one of those immune roaches....sounds like it's time to open up The Roach Motel.
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Post by: Jrand73 on June 15, 2004, 09:49:56 PM: Never mind....the Cinegrill is at the Hollywood's own Roosevelt Hotel, where they had the parties after THIS IS YOUR LIFE. ::)
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Post by: TCB on June 15, 2004, 09:52:25 PM: Quote from: Dan (the Man) on June 15, 2004, 09:37:39 PM
Yeah, I'm on to the whole lot of you. Better cut me in on the deal or I'm gonna send a link to this here website to the World News Weekly and blow your whole deal sky high.

Puh-leez! Like anyone else in the world will ever see that post!

Quote from: Dan (the Man) on June 15, 2004, 09:37:39 PM
Just watched the Beastie Boys on Letterman. Aren't these guys pushing 35? And they're still doing frat boy rap. They did a live single shot walk from the subway to the Letterman Theatre and they looked winded.

Can you believe that, Panni? Pushing 35 and they are still able to walk!
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on June 15, 2004, 09:54:15 PM: One more child actress that I liked--Lisa Gerritsen from The Mary Tyler Moore Show and the Phyllis spin-off.

Should I just get this Godhood thing over and done with tonight?
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Post by: TCB on June 15, 2004, 09:55:25 PM: Quote from: Jason on June 15, 2004, 09:36:45 PM
Dear Readers, I don't know whether to cry or to vomit on the floor. I have a roach in my apartment. I swear to the god of household pests, I don't know if I can take much more. First it was mice, and now I've got a roach!! And it's two inches long...at least. I saw it last night and then it disappeared, but I saw it again tonight and I so desperately want to kill it and be done. This is only the second time in the two years I've lived in this apartment that I've seen a roach...it had better not indicate future problems.

Jason, as God is my witness, if I ever win the Lottery, the first thing I am going to do is to get you a nice apartment in Manhattan!
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Post by: Panni on June 15, 2004, 09:55:55 PM: I just found a big bug, too. Solidarity, brothers and sisters! I thought I had it, but I lost it. Now it's crawling around waiting for revenge.
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Post by: Jason on June 15, 2004, 09:56:07 PM: Dan: Amy will be WAY impressed once you become a god.
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Post by: Jrand73 on June 15, 2004, 10:01:36 PM: Dan we are getting Mount Olympus ready for your ascension.
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Post by: Jason on June 15, 2004, 10:01:49 PM: Quote from: TCB on June 15, 2004, 09:55:25 PM
Jason, as God is my witness, if I ever win the Lottery, the first thing I am going to do is to get you a nice apartment in Manhattan!

As God is my witness, I'll take you up on that one!

Is this what they mean by suffering for your art? Being poor and sharing a living space with roaches and mice, no matter how clean the apartment may be? Never being able to go to an audition because you have to work three jobs, and even if you get to audition and get an acting job you can't take it because it pays $20/month? Something's gotta give. It's times like these that I have trouble remembering why I ever wanted to do this in the first place...
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Post by: Panni on June 15, 2004, 10:03:50 PM: Quote from: TCB on June 15, 2004, 09:52:25 PM
Can you believe that, Panni? Pushing 35 and they are still able to walk![/b]

It's like one of those incredible miracles of nature you read about, TCB!

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Post by: Dan (the Man) on June 15, 2004, 10:09:09 PM: Quote from: JRand53 on June 15, 2004, 10:01:36 PM
Dan we are getting Mount Olympus ready for your ascension.

Gosh, I wasn't planning to ascend so soon. I was going to have a big too-do! I hired a caterer and a band! A photographer from the social page was going to cover it. This is so last minute!
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Post by: Jrand73 on June 15, 2004, 10:09:33 PM: TCB - get me one, too.

Here is the one I want. ;D

http://www.citysitesny.com/listing-view.php?id=17787 (http://www.citysitesny.com/listing-view.php?id=17787)

And it's only $12,000!!!
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Post by: TCB on June 15, 2004, 10:10:04 PM: Quote from: Jason on June 15, 2004, 10:01:49 PM
As God is my witness, I'll take you up on that one!

Is this what they mean by suffering for your art? Being poor and sharing a living space with roaches and mice, no matter how clean the apartment may be? Never being able to go to an audition because you have to work three jobs, and even if you get to audition and get an acting job you can't take it because it pays $20/month? Something's gotta give. It's times like these that I have trouble remembering why I ever wanted to do this in the first place...

Jason, there are a lot of us just folks at this here site who believe in you and in your dream. You are going to make it, my friend! And when you have your career going strong, and they sign you to that big TV sitcom deal, you will insist that they cast your old friend TCB as your father on the show............. Well, okay, your grandfather on the show.
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Post by: Panni on June 15, 2004, 10:10:39 PM: Quote from: Jason on June 15, 2004, 10:01:49 PM
It's times like these that I have trouble remembering why I ever wanted to do this in the first place...

We're all crazy in this business, Jason. That's why we wanted to do it in the first place ...and the second place. :P
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Post by: TCB on June 15, 2004, 10:13:30 PM: Quote from: JRand53 on June 15, 2004, 10:09:33 PM
TCB - get me one, too.

Here is the one I want. ;D

http://www.citysitesny.com/listing-view.php?id=17787 (http://www.citysitesny.com/listing-view.php?id=17787)

And it's only $12,000!!!

No, no, no, my dear Jrand, I can't have you living under those conditions. I had a little studio in SoHo all picked out for you.
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Post by: Jrand73 on June 15, 2004, 10:14:09 PM: Yes DRJASON....remember in the words of our esteemed Mr Stephen Sondheim.....

Some people sit on their butts
Got the dream, yea, but not the guts.....

This is NOT YOU!

You are doing what you HAVE to do to make your dream come true....you obviously have talent...now you just need that lucky break that comes along once in a lifetime!
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Post by: Jrand73 on June 15, 2004, 10:14:40 PM: Oh....well...TCB, then I want them both!
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Post by: Panni on June 15, 2004, 10:15:30 PM: Quote from: Dan (the Man) on June 15, 2004, 10:09:09 PM
Gosh, I wasn't planning to ascend so soon. I was going to have a big too-do! I hired a caterer and a band! A photographer from the social page was going to cover it. This is so last minute!

I need to run and get my gown from the trunk of my car! And the band is here...

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Post by: Jason on June 15, 2004, 10:16:00 PM: Mr. Stephen Sondheim never said nuthin' about no roaches.
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Post by: Panni on June 15, 2004, 10:19:07 PM: Jason - You gotta think of them as show biz roaches: archy and mehitabel.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on June 15, 2004, 10:20:51 PM: Matt, Peggy Ann Garner is wonderful in A TREE GROWS IN BROOKLYN (everybody in that movie is pretty much wonderful).

And the mention of Daryl Hickman reminded me of his wonderful performance in THE HUMAN COMEDY when he goes to the library.
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Post by: Panni on June 15, 2004, 10:21:45 PM: i know mankind is doing the best it can

but hellsbells boss

thats only an explanation

its not an excuse

-- archy
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Post by: Jrand73 on June 15, 2004, 10:24:23 PM: I liked Peggy Ann Garner in BROOKLYN as well. And she grew into a great murder victim in BLACK WIDOW!
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Post by: Jrand73 on June 15, 2004, 10:27:34 PM: Once there was a little ol' roach
Thought he'd be a basketball coach.
Nobody said a roach
Can't
Be a Basketball Coach.

Cos he had high hopes
Yes he had high hopes
He had high apple pie
in the sky hopes.

So every time you're feeling low
stead of letting go
Just remember that roach.
Oops the Nets have a got another new coach!
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Post by: Panni on June 15, 2004, 10:27:35 PM: i once was a vers libre bard
but i died and my soul went into the body of a cockroach
it has given me a new outlook on life

i see things from the under side now
thank you for the apple peelings in the wastepaper basket
but your paste is getting so stale i can t eat it

---archy
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Post by: Panni on June 15, 2004, 10:30:11 PM: PAGE SEVEN! (http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/ernaehrung/food-smiley-004.gif)
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Post by: Jason on June 15, 2004, 10:31:01 PM: There's a musical about those roaches. Mel Brooks co-wrote it. MTI licenses it.
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Post by: Panni on June 15, 2004, 10:32:33 PM: We're a very poetic bunch tonight, ain't we?
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Post by: Jrand73 on June 15, 2004, 10:44:45 PM: Now I lay me down to sleep
I pray the Lord my soul to keep.
If I should die before I wake
I pray the Lord
To give me cake. Amen.
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Post by: bk on June 15, 2004, 10:47:15 PM: Back from the Cinegrill, and will have much to say in tomorrow's notes which I must write now. Mr. Graae was his usual delightful self but I'm afraid the room is not conducive to landing big laughs - this has to do with they way it is laid out.

Thanks to all for keeping the home fries burning. Here is a photo of dear reader Sandra enjoying a Cherry Coke, unfortunately taken in very dim light.
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Post by: Panni on June 15, 2004, 11:26:19 PM: Very atmospheric photo.... The spy who came in from the Cherry Coke... Goodnight, all.
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Post by: Panni on June 15, 2004, 11:27:27 PM: ...I might come back for the notes if I don't fall asleep.
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Post by: bk on June 15, 2004, 11:30:06 PM: Sleep is for WUSSBURGERS.
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Post by: Jason on June 15, 2004, 11:41:08 PM: Why am I not in bed yet? Probably because I'm freaking out over a little roach. I'm a wussburger, I guess.