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Title: TONY SUNDAY
Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 12:01:13 AM
Well, you've read the notes, you know we're havin' a partay, and you know the action will be lively and sparkling, so let's get to it shall we.  Post away, my pretties.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: TCB on June 06, 2004, 12:05:41 AM
First post!!!
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: TCB on June 06, 2004, 12:09:49 AM
Hmmm............ Perkins........Martin.........Robbins........ Dale........... Curtis............Tiger......... Bennett.........Tenile......... Quinn....... ummm,  Adverse(?)

Is that reaching?


Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Tomovoz on June 06, 2004, 12:14:50 AM
Tony Dale.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: George on June 06, 2004, 12:15:11 AM
Hmmm............ Perkins........Martin.........Robbins........ Curtis............Tiger......... Bennett.........Tenile......... Quinn....... ummm,  Adverse(?)

Is that reaching?

TCB, as I read your list of Tonys, I though that it should read...Curtis.....the Tiger..., etc.  That reminded me of "The Muppet Movie" at the beginning when all the muppets have assembled to watch the screening of the movie they just made and the guy that throws the fish (I forget his name, right now...sorry!) calls Kermit, "Mr. The Frog, Mr. The Frog."  I love that line!
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 12:15:54 AM
Yes, it is, TCB.  You beat me to it!

When I was little, I always thought Tony-Award-Winning meant that the show was the absolute BEST EVER!  I remember seeing bits of HAIR, ANNIE, and JESUS CHRIST SUPERSTAR for the first time ever on the Tony Awards Show.

It has always been fun and exciting to see the show excerpts - and yes I usually went out the next day and bought the cast album for the shows I thought I would like.  A couple of my favorite Tony Moments:

Ethel Merman came out to present something and the ovation she got brought tears to her eyes....Bea Arthur said something very funny (I don't even remember what it was) and her "Jack Benny" type reaction just made everything funnier.  And of course, Nathan Lane dressed as Julie Andrews in Victor/Victoria.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Panni on June 06, 2004, 12:17:08 AM
Seeing Ronald Reagan again after all these years, I notice how much ACTING he did. Just watch the speech he gave when the hostages in Iran were released. The lowering of the voice, the breathless excitement, the dramatic pauses...
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: TCB on June 06, 2004, 12:19:25 AM
We had a wonderful full house for the murder mystery dinner tonight.  Saturday's performance is always the most fun, because people, for the most part, have not come directly from work, nor do they have to get up early the next morning.  The wine flows freely, the mood is relaxed, and the interaction between cast and audience members really crackles.  In this particular mystery, MURDER AT THE MANOR HOUSE, my character is Dewey Decibal head of The Royal Library of Chernobia.  Dewey is a bit beyond fey.   Actually, Dewey is probably a bit closer to just plain flaming.  In fact, in a power failure Dewey's flames could light the entire dining hall!  Dewey has been a lot of fun to do, and the audience response to the character has been very rewarding.

Sorry.  I was going to say that my character's name was Tony, just so my post would fit into today's theme, but I forgot!
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Panni on June 06, 2004, 12:21:57 AM
Good night, all. I must get my beauty rest so that I can look dee-vine for the Tonys. Which gown...which gown...?
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: George on June 06, 2004, 12:26:25 AM
Gown?  I myself, have chosen a nice off the shoulder chiffon number with lots of lace... ;)  What the hell am I talking about?  I've been up since 6:00 am and am very tired.  Good night all, also.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Joey on June 06, 2004, 12:38:36 AM
HOORAY FOR TONY SUNDAY!!!!!!! I am ridiculously excited for today. It's not just the awards to me. Tony Sunday is representative of theatre worldwide for me. It's almost like the unofficial worldwide day to celebrate theatre! Is there an official "celebrate theatre" holiday?  I don't know, but from what I've seen from the Hugh Jackman interview on CBS, the set looks great. And I am really excited for the entertainment (even though I am confused by a few choices.) I am also excited because I am going to my first Tony party with the cast of Seussical which I am in. I was wary going in because it's not the best musical ever written, but it is SOOOO much fun! (We're doing it mainly for little kids anyway.) I am also excited because we are learning tap. (I've never done tap before and it so much fun!) I am working hard at it. :-D Haha well if you can't tell by this post I am EXCITED!!!! Woohoo! Too bad the ratings are going to suck this year. (The sopranos and NBA Finals.) One of my goals in life is to introduce as many people as I can to the theatre! I should try to get some sleep but I am really excited right now! I hope everyone has a great day!!!
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 01:02:44 AM
Tony, Tony, Tony (that is three Tonys) - I think today will be very tony indeed.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Tomovoz on June 06, 2004, 02:40:17 AM
Do you mean R & B/Funk group Tony! Toni! Toné!
They had a couple of top 10 hits in the 1990s.
(The trio was from Oakland CA).


Strange but true. Oz gets the Tony awards in a direct telecast in the morning - Even we get it before the West Coasters. (I don't because we don't have cable).
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Robin on June 06, 2004, 03:34:10 AM
What I'm hoping for at the Tonys:

1.  Dame Edna.  Nothing brightens up a room like her, possums!

2.  Avenue Q landslide.  (Yeah, I know Wicked will probably win a pile of Tonys, but I'm rooting for the underdog!)

My buddy Terry always makes a pilgrimmage to NYC in May to see as many shows as she can possibly fit into a week.  Over the years, I've come to trust her taste, and she didn't care for either Wicked or The Boy from Oz...but she simply adored Caroline, or Change and the Assassins revival.

Judging from the standpoint of the CD, I don't really care for either Wicked or The Boy from Oz either...
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: DERBRUCER on June 06, 2004, 04:53:47 AM
Followups from Yesterday (a Beatles reference):

MBarnum asked:

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My buddy Mark has been wanting me to watch the movie SYBIL forever, as it is one of his favorites...today he got me up to his apartment on some pretense and trapped me into watching it...and...it really was a very good movie! Quite an interesting and tragic story...I wonder if the real Sybil is still alive?

Answer: No

A Sybil Website (http://www.astraeasweb.net/plural/sybilid.html) provides a link to this Detroit Fress Press article (http://www.astraeasweb.net/plural/qsybil23.html):

BY JENNIFER HEWLETT
Knight Ridder Newspapers
LEXINGTON, Ky. -- Shirley Ardell Mason lived quietly in Lexington for more than 20 years, painting and running an arts business out of her home. Her friends suspected that she was "Sybil," the subject of a 1970s best-selling book about a psychiatric patient plagued with multiple personalities. Now they know she was.
Mason, who had lived in Lexington at least since the mid-1970s, died Feb. 26 at her home. She was 75.

Until now, the identity of Sybil, who has been called the most famous psychiatric patient in history, had never been made public.

That's all changing with a book scheduled for publication in 1999 and a documentary scheduled to begin filming in January. Peter Swales, a psychiatric historian in New York City, says he is coauthoring the book and will work on the documentary for British television.

He says through research and interviews he has identified Mason as Sybil Isabel Dorsett, the pseudonym of the woman in the book written by journalist Flora Rheta Schreiber.

JRand53 posed:

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Thanks DRJAY - I just LOVE Carmina Burana so perhaps I will go looking for a DIE KLUGE CD.  Surely there's one somewhere.

Answer: There is.

The usually helpful Amazon.com (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/ref=dp_sr_00/102-0638413-8939341) offers a CD import and has this reviewer's post (extract):

Orff was interested in creating what he called "theater of the world", a form that was related to Jungian mythological concepts, oriental and Greek theater, and ultimately, an alternative vision of the Gesamkunstwerke of Wagner. Both of these works date from the war years, and yet they are blessedly free of the ideological messes of the times. Both works are allegorical fairytales, presented with high spirited humor and ribaldry. As such they are the direct descendents of Carmina Burana. Die Kluge is based on the story of the Clever Young Woman and the King from the Brothers Grimm. A young woman, the daughter of a farmer, impresses a king with her wit and cleverness and becomes his wife. In this position she uses her wiles to correct even the king's own injustices. Der Mond is even more archetypal. Four young men who live in a land of perpetual night trick a neighboring village out of the Moon, thereby bringing light to their world. When the men die, they are buried with a quarter of the moon each. In the underworld, they reassemble the moon and wake the dead, who begin partying up a storm. This in turn brings St. Peter down from heaven. He joins the dead in their debaucheries, until they are exhausted and fall back to sleep. Then, releasing the dead from both joy and torment, and giving them the blessing of perpetual rest, St. Peter returns to heaven with the Moon, which he places in the sky for all. A child spots the moon and all people on earth stare in wonder.

der Brucer (HHH RA)

Note: RA=Research Assistant or Red Ass depending on the color of my mood ring)
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: DERBRUCER on June 06, 2004, 04:59:36 AM

Dame Edna.  Nothing brightens up a room like her, possums!


A more interesting observation without the comma  :D

Heck, if Mrs. Slocum can talk about her Pussy on TV, then Edna can flaunt her Possums!

der DOM Brucer
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: DERBRUCER on June 06, 2004, 05:47:54 AM
For informative web brousing on Tony, I suggest:

Jim's Deli New York City Guide

Click Here (http://www.jimsdeli.com/theater/awards/tonys/default.htm) for a list of all the Tony's awarded, year by year.

Click Here (http://www.jimsdeli.com/landmarks/default.htm) for a list, by theatre and year, of all shows and which, if any, Tonys they won.

der Brucer



Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jennifer on June 06, 2004, 05:58:41 AM
DR Joey: Wow, your excitement is wonderful.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jennifer on June 06, 2004, 06:00:58 AM
I also cannot wait to watch the Tonys tonight.  Although I think I may fall asleep.  Because after all the painting/cleaning my body aches! Oy.

Has anybody here ever dressed up to watch the Tonys?  I think it would be fun.  And serve delicious snacks.  Geez, I am so far behind.  No snacks.  No gown.  
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: td on June 06, 2004, 06:01:44 AM
I've never played a character named Tony. :(
The closest I've come would be Sandy Lord in THE PHILADELPHIA STORY, and gosh all get up, he was QUITE Tony! :)
my hope for tonight is that Mr. Stephen Schwartz, a personal friend of BK, finally has a Tony to join his Oscars, Grammys and what-nots on his shelves. :)

As today is the day I have designated for my folks' Golden Anniversary Party, I will be playing host all day and all night (my intimate Tony party follows the Anniversay Party) so. . . . It's entirely possible that this may be my only post today. . .

Now, everyone just sing a few choruses of "Tonight" from WEST SIDE STORY, and it will really be a TONY party!
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jennifer on June 06, 2004, 06:02:36 AM
Oh and speaking of the Tonys, is anyone else very disappointed that we won't get to see the first awards.  At least PBS used to show them.  I'm not sure exactly which awards they are (I forget the exact list).  But I think orchestrations/sets/lighting ... are some of them. :(
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jennifer on June 06, 2004, 06:04:08 AM
Reading yesterday's notes, I wish Bombay Dreams could perform too.  But only the nominated musicals and revivals get to perform (except for Big River which is closed - BUT IT'S GETTING A TOUR!!!).
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Danise on June 06, 2004, 06:07:04 AM
Good morning, all!

[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]Happy Antony day![/move]
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Donald on June 06, 2004, 06:28:35 AM
our special Tony Awards edition of the Broadway Radio Show is now up and running....a bit early this week, but I figured you might want to listen as you prepare for this evening's festivities

ENJOY!
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 06:32:53 AM
Last night, DR S. Woody wrote: "If you haven't finished the film already, stop the film as Richard Benjamin walks the docks at the last port of call.  Then see if you can't figure out the whole mystery.  It's SO nice to see a mystery film that really plays fair, because you CAN solve this on your own!"


Oh, dear, you must have either skipped or forgotten an earlier message I wrote in which I said that I had seen this film many times prior to owning this DVD. When I saw THE LAST OF SHEILA in the theater, I did not choose the correct murderer. (I won't provide any spoilers; suffice to say, I didn't get it right, and it was my own fault.)

I am looking forward to seeing the rest of the film sometime today. The transfer looks just fine.

Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Noel on June 06, 2004, 06:36:26 AM
Mr. SWWhite, laboring under some sort of cognitive disorder, wrote:

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you're suggesting that theater should stick to the lowest common denominator as the level of aspiration?

quoting a post of mine in which I'd suggested nothing of the sort.  In the commercial theatre, writers generally have one shot to impress their audience (and I thank George for pointing out that BK's close personal friend Stephen Sondheim shares this sentiment) and Broadway shows are too expensive to see multiple times.  Other DRs from mid-Atlantic states (Der Brucer and Jose) understood my point.

Today is a day for celebrating Broadway, that bright light of commercial theatre.  Its creators aim high, most of the time, and nobody aspires to write a show you have to see more than once to "get."  I shall soon hie me to Joe Allen's, where I'll brunch with a bunch of RATMites, many of whom have stopped posting there because they don't like being misquoted by Newport.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 06:40:26 AM
Yes, I'm eagerly looking forward to the Tony Awards tonight.

Some fondly remembered Tony moments:

The opening of the CHORUS LINE Tony show where the original company does "I Hope I Get It." The number is electric, and you can honestly feel the excitement of the audience during and at the end of the number.

Mary Martin trying to take Robert Preston's I DO! I DO! Tony away from him at the end of the very first national broadcast. (I also adored their "Nobody's Perfect" number from the show.)

Stephen Sondheim's eyes full of tears at the conclusion of the "Sunday" number and then Jerry Herman's eyes brimming at the conclusion of "I Am What I Am" on the infamous LA CAGE/SUNDAY IN THE PARK telecast.

The Nathan Lane/Gregory Hines "Girls" medley.

Angela Lansbury overcome with emotion at the response to "Everything's Comin' Up Roses" on the last time she hosted the show.

"Always Mademoiselle" with Katharine Hepburn.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 06:41:12 AM
I think that credit on PARIS WHEN IT SIZZLES reads:


Miss Hepburn's clothes and perfume by Givenchy.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 06:50:29 AM
I've mentioned this before but it sticks in my craw and I have to get it out:

Julie Andrews does not have a Tony. She has created four unforgettablke characters for the Broadway musical theater: Polly Browne in THE BOY FRIEND, Eliza Doolittle in MY FAIR LADY, Guenivere in CAMELOT, and Victoria Grant in VICTOR/VICTORIA. She has hosted the Tonys on numerous occasions and performed some thrilling numbers cincluding her own Broadway medley and "Send in the Clowns."

Now, Barry Manilow, Diana Ross, and Bette Midler, all talented folks I'll grant you but not Broadway stars nor people who have given much to Broadway, each has a Tony in their trophy cases.

Something is not right with this picture.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: S. Woody White on June 06, 2004, 07:20:46 AM
Dear BK: Re Charlie Chan and the Disclaimer Notice:

My definition of the phrase politically correct applies here: "The fine art of taking offence where none was intended."
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 07:37:34 AM
This Charlie Chan package includes those Chans Toler made for Monogram which were his last films before his death and before Roland Winters took over the last few films in the series.

I hope the boxed set does well enough to convince Fox to do something with the QUALITY Chan films it owns. Right now, the studio is stupidly taking some kind of PC moral high ground, but if the MGM Chans make money, I suspect Fox's greed will outweigh its misguided sense of right-and-wrong.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jay on June 06, 2004, 07:50:55 AM
Good morning, Dear Readers!  It'll be a busy day for me today.  This morning I have a synagogue-related function out in Brentwood.  From there I will make my way downtown to the Walt Disney Concert Hall for an afternoon performance by the Los Angeles Philharmonic of the Berlioz Requiem, conducted by Esa-Pekka Salonen.  This evening, of course, I shall be ensconced in front of my television for the Tony Awards.  
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 07:56:23 AM
Another memorable Tony moment:

Michael Jeter and Brent Barrett (my first time seeing either of them) doing "We'll Take a Glass Together" in the GRAND HOTEL excerpt. After I saw it on TV, I booked tickets and a flight and saw it, CITY OF ANGELS, and other shows that December. All of the original casts were still with the shows, and overall was one of the best trips to NYC ever to see shows.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: William E. Lurie on June 06, 2004, 07:56:40 AM
No matter how good the actual broadcast is tonight, the most entertaining part of the Tonys has to be Michael Reidel's prediction show this week where Michael, three other queens and a dyke (all right all critics but that's how they came off) gave their comments.  My favorite remark" "Of course Hugh Jackman will win and he'll thank his wife and his personal assistant".  This show is almostworth giving money to PBS.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 08:07:48 AM
LOL WEL - and we don't even get to see it in Indiana.

Thanks for the info DB - I will look at Amazon!

I once played Tony Wendice, cad and murder conspirator in DIAL M FOR MURDER.  So many lines!  So many lines!

Matinee of STATE FAIR today, but home in plenty of time for the Tony Awards which for us will start at 9 pm EST since we are in the CST time zone now.  And I can't get the NY channel on the satellite at this time. 8-(

I hope everyone printed out a ballot - the link was in the notes a few days ago - it will be very easy use and very practical!
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 08:13:18 AM
Oh and DRPANNI - you may be interested to learn that Mr Ronald Reagan got a lot of his acting training from Miss Sophie Rosenstein who worked as the acting coach at Warner Bros for many years before moving to Universal International (where she was NO help to Lori Nelson).  ;D

Ms Rosenstein got her job through her former student at the University of Washington/Seattle - Miss Frances Farmer.  :'(

Ms Rosenstein was also the wife of Mr Gig Young!  ;D
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 08:22:38 AM
This should indeed be an interesting Tony night in light of the extensive campaigning AVENUE Q has done for the award. If it does indeed win over WICKED, we will see a new era in campaigning for the prize in the years to come.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Panni on June 06, 2004, 08:24:02 AM
Favorite lyric on my "JR CD" (attention FS Pogue): (http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/musik/music-smiley-004.gif)
Annette: The perfect boy doesn't have to be a Hercules
Chorus: Her-cu-leees....
Annette: The perfect boy doesn't have to be Euripides
Chorus: ''Rip-ee-deees
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 08:25:22 AM
No matter how good the actual broadcast is tonight, the most entertaining part of the Tonys has to be Michael Reidel's prediction show this week where Michael, three other queens and a dyke (all right all critics but that's how they came off) gave their comments.  My favorite remark" "Of course Hugh Jackman will win and he'll thank his wife and his personal assistant".  This show is almostworth giving money to PBS.

WEL, by saying "three other queens" you're implying that Michael is gay himself, a situation most definitely refuted by that article about him which was linked here yesterday.

Do you have information that others of us are lacking?
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 08:27:10 AM
Ladies and Gentlemen of HHW - for Tony Day, I present STAIRWAY TO STARDOM!!!   ;D

Particularly for those with DSL or cable modem for fast downloading - talent you will NOT believe!   8)

http://www.sharpeworld.com/Stairway/stairway.html (http://www.sharpeworld.com/Stairway/stairway.html)

I am not sure which is my favorite, but the tap dancing girl or the Elvis "America" are certainly up there....or down there, as the case may be!   :P
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 08:29:39 AM
Yes, Panni, I was thinking you would enjoy that lyric....now imagine it sung by Annette in capri pants sitting on a blanket on the beach surrounded by girls dressed in swimsuits.....pretending to know who Euripedes is....or maybe not even caring....

The perfect boy only has to be faith - ful
True and faithful to me!
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 09:13:50 AM
Having caught up on the morning posts let me just say, "This is where the partay is!"  By the way (BTW, in Internet lingo), just what was up doing on the morning posts anyway?  That naughty up.

The Tony show is slated for three hours.  Yet, they can't give a series of important awards on the air.  Yet, the Tony shows of old were three hours and they not only managed to give all the awards but to do all the numbers, scenes from plays and various tribute sequences.  Why?  Simple.  At leat one third of tonight's show will be commercials, which was not quite the way it was in days of old.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 09:26:09 AM
Ain't it the truth...there just ain't no class anymore.

Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: DERBRUCER on June 06, 2004, 09:26:43 AM
Extracts from an LA Times article (http://www.calendarlive.com/stage/cl-ca-pacheco6jun06,2,5787753.story):

Days of the great dark way
By Patrick Pacheco
Special to The Times

Jun 6 2004

On the face of it, the new Broadway musical "Avenue Q" is a delicious bit of fluff with its bright bouncy tunes and eccentric cast of slackers…But the central character, Princeton, just out of school and newly arrived in New York, faces a quandary out of Samuel Beckett: What am I doing on this earth?

His existential conundrum, as well as the story's dabbles in racism, homophobia and Internet porn, are the darker shades that temper the comedy in this musical comedy — shades that colored several other Broadway shows, which, like "Avenue Q," opened during the 2003-04 season.

"The Boy From Oz," based on the glitzy showbiz life of the late entertainer Peter Allen, included deaths from AIDS complications, a topic as well in the short-lived "Taboo," which detailed the drug-soaked club years of pop star Boy George. The spectacularly lavish "Wicked" looked at the "Wizard of Oz" legend from a perspective of genetic tampering and segregation, the latter also being addressed in "Bombay Dreams," about an Indian slum dweller's rise to film fame, and "Caroline, or Change," which revolves around a black maid's fury in 1963 Louisiana. Perhaps only "Never Gonna Dance," the flop adaptation of the 1936 Fred Astaire-Ginger Rogers movie "Swing Time," was a return to the frothy mindlessness long associated with musical comedy.

Weighty themes in musical theater of course are nothing new, dating to 1927, when "Show Boat" dared to treat the serious subjects of betrayal, abandonment and miscegenation, and carried on in any number of musicals from "Oklahoma!" to "Assassins," which finally made its bow on Broadway this season. But at least from a commercial point of view, the recent trend seemed to be toward a return to the traditional sense of musical comedy. In 2001, "The Producers" became a phenomenon and swept up a record 12 Tony Awards. And the successes of "Mamma Mia!" and multiple Tony winner "Hairspray" seemed to underline that audiences, rattled by the bleak and despairing headlines after Sept. 11, were seeking a refuge in lighter fare.

But that premise has been tested to varying degrees this season, especially by the four nominees for this year's best musical Tony Award: "Avenue Q," "Wicked," "The Boy From Oz" and "Caroline, or Change.

"I don't think of qualities of darkness and light in the musicals I choose to do," says Jeffrey Seller, who with his partner Kevin McCollum has been lead producer on "Rent," "La Bohème" and now "Avenue Q." "But I think what's appealing is provocative material that takes you to a darker place but still manages to thrill with qualities we traditionally associate with musicals, like great songs and great dancing."
"Avenue Q", which uses the conventions of "Sesame Street" to make its points lightheartedly, is arguably an easier sell. (And, in fact, it has become the first commercial hit of the season, having recently paid back its investment.) But even so, Seller says he and McCollum lobbied the creators — book writer Jeff Whitty and songwriters Robert Lopez and Jeff Marx — to end the musical with the entire company happily on stage rather than with just Princeton standing alone in the doorway, still caught in his existential quandary. "My instinct is to go with what is most pleasing to the audience," Seller says, "but they argued — quite rightly — that this is not what the show was about. Life is always a struggle in finding your purpose."

On the other hand, producer Ben Gannon, who shepherded "Boy From Oz" from page to stage, first in Australia and then in New York, says that appealing to the broadest possible audience was always uppermost in his mind. In his favor was the fact that Allen, at one time married to Liza Minnelli, was a consummate showman who could appeal both to gay men and the proverbial "blue-haired" matinee ladies. More problematic, the semiautobiographical musical had to address the composer's and his boyfriend's deaths from complications of AIDS in the early '90s as well as Allen's abusive and alcoholic father, who committed suicide. (Not to mention the accidental overdose of his mother-in-law, Judy Garland.)

The show in Australia glossed over some of the sadder aspects. But Gannon said he knew that American audiences would demand "more depth." Consequently, Martin Sherman, whose best-known drama in America had been "Bent," about gays in Nazi Germany, was hired to add heft to the original book. "To tell the story truthfully, we knew we had to include these elements," Gannon says. "But the last thing we needed was a scene in a hospital bed." The solution? Get the AIDS deaths out of the way fast to reach what the producer calls "Rio Heaven," the musical's concluding fantasia of all the characters — living and dead — reunited in a extended play rendition of Allen's hit "I Go to Rio."

Of course, many people in the audience would be willing to go to hell and back because the guide is, after all, Hugh Jackman, who will host tonight's telecast and has a bet-the-house lock on the leading actor in a musical Tony Award. "Hugh, like Peter, is incredibly charming and likable and that carries the day in terms of handling these darker issues," Gannon says. "But we always knew that we would go only so far into that world if we wanted to have any hope of recouping our [$8.5-million] investment. You can't ask people to spend $100 a ticket and then depress them."

"Wicked" had wider latitude in telling its revisionist story about the Wicked Witch of the West, who is neither as wicked nor as witchy as she has been fixed in the popular imagination. According to its lead producer, Marc Platt, the show could have struck either "a bright bouncy tone" or a more "brooding and ominous one." He says the fact that the creative team would aim for somewhere in the middle was clear from the first formal reading of the musical in Los Angeles in March 2001. "What surprised us was that people were not only entertained but also so emotionally involved in some of the darker undercurrents," Platt says. "This is about a girl who is brutally rejected by her father because of her skin color and is abused by those in power."

Positively 'Wicked'

Among the boldest decisions taken was to entrust a $14-million musical to Joe Mantello …Joe matched the sensibility of Stephen and Winnie to deliver mainstream entertainment that could deliver great songs, sets and music," Platt says, "but surprise the audience by tackling more provocative themes, like the responsibility of power and who gets to write history

A hot ticket, "Wicked" should have no problem recouping its investment and launching a global franchise, something few people are predicting for "Caroline, or Change." The musical by Tony Kushner and Jeanine Tesori is by far the riskiest commercial proposition to arrive on Broadway since Stephen Sondheim's "Passion" (or, for that matter, "Assassins", though that is protected by being presented under the auspices of the nonprofit Roundabout Theatre).

Like "Passion," "Caroline" also features a sour lead character whose dreams are stuck in amber. Caroline's best hope for the future — a realization brought about after a particularly ugly exchange in the Jewish household in which she serves as a maid — is simply one of resignation and calm, hardly the cathartic ending promised by most musicals…
"I think whenever you're blazing a trail, you just have to keep whacking away with a machete and be thankful for whatever you do get from audiences," says Carole Shorenstein Hays, the San Francisco-based theater owner and producer …"I think if you ever try to do the safe thing, it rarely turns out to be that way."

If Tony history is any indication, "Caroline" will have a tough time snatching the top award of the night from its competition. Almost invariably, the sunnier show has won: "West Side Story" lost to "The Music Man," "Gypsy" to "The Sound of Music," "Sunday in the Park With George" to "La Cage aux Folles…

"When you're a pioneer, sometimes it takes a bit of work and a bit of time," she says. "Sometimes it's better to leave it for history to decide rather than to try to second-guess these things."

But second-guessing is what Broadway producers are paid to do in terms of the audience's acceptance of whatever may be proffered. Those expectations change, as the revival of "Chicago" has proved so lucratively. When that John Kander-Fred Ebb musical opened in 1975, director Bob Fosse's black comic vision of merry murderesses was widely considered by both audiences and critics as too cynical and nasty. Likewise, when "Assassins" bowed in 1991 off-Broadway, there was a revulsion expressed in many of the reviews that the subject matter of presidential assassination could be considered fitting for the musical idiom. The glowing reviews it has received this time around are a vindication of sorts for Sondheim and book writer John Weidman.

[Bolding is mine, not the Times]

der Brucer


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Post by: DERBRUCER on June 06, 2004, 09:36:47 AM
At leat one third of tonight's show will be commercials, which was not quite the way it was in days of old.

Which wouldn't be so bad if we were treated to fresh Clio-aspiring ads like the Superbowl attracts instead of retreads of "This Ain't' Your Father's Oldsmobile" and "100 Gourmet Uses for Velveeta".

der Brucer ( a closet "up')

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Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 09:41:11 AM
That first national broadcast of the Tony Awards in 1967 where CABARET won over I DO! I DO! THE APPLE TREE, and WALKING HAPPY, wasn't it just 90 minutes? And it still managed to present the awards and do numbers from all four shows.
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Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 09:57:16 AM
Excuse me, but where in tarnation IS everyone?  One person is a partay?  Yes, it's Sunday, but it's Tony Sunday and if this errant and truantness continues, Tony Soprano will be doing the bitch-slapping around these here parts.

My favorite Tony moments: Seeing the first Tony broadcast from a hotel room in Cincinatti.  I couldn't believe how exciting it was to see Wilkommen and I Do! I Do!  Others have already mentioned A Chorus Line's opening, and I would add the divine Turkey Lurky Time, You're Never Fully Dressed Without a Smile (maybe my favorite Tony moment I've watched the most), And I Am Telling You I Am Not Going, and Miss Dorothy Loudon's Fifty Percent from Ballroom.
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Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 10:02:27 AM
I too loved the ANNIE moment!  

Off to the STATE FAIR matinee.  Pray for Rosemary's Baby.
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Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 10:03:20 AM
How do people feel about having the Tonys at Radio City? Somehow, I liked the smaller, more intimate feel of doing it at a Broadway house like the Imperial or even newer houses like the Gershwin or the Minskoff.

I guess it's grander for the TV audience to have it in a HUGE place, and it's probably easier for TV lights and cameras to be in a larger house like Radio City, but I love seeing the old shows from various legitimate theaters like the Hellinger.
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Post by: Panni on June 06, 2004, 10:08:31 AM
RE THE NON-BROADCAST SECTION OF THE TONYS:

Go to this URL

http://www.tonyawards.com/en_US/index.html

THEN CLICK ON
News: The First Six Awards: A TonyAwards.com Video Webcast Exclusive
Be here at 7:15 p.m. (ET) on Sunday as Marissa Jaret Winokur hosts the first 45 minutes of the awards ceremony, available only on this site.

...AND YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO WATCH.
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Post by: Panni on June 06, 2004, 10:11:15 AM
...There are other interesting features on that page to check out.
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Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 10:12:29 AM
Thanks, Panni. I have bookmarked that site so I can watch prior to the network broadcast.
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Post by: Danise on June 06, 2004, 10:13:57 AM
So is everyone having partys at their house in honor of the Tonys?  

What special dish are you cooking for this day or are your going out someplace to watch them?  Can you even do that?  Like a sports bar kinda thing?

I just put a nice pork roast with garlic and onions on to cook with sweet potatos.  We'll have a nice side salid with that.

I'll be here on HHW and watching the TV at same time.  
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on June 06, 2004, 10:17:51 AM
Would you like to touch my Tony?

(http://img42.photobucket.com/albums/v130/WandaDuck/IMG_0830.jpg)
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on June 06, 2004, 10:18:32 AM
Would you like to see my Tony's backside?

(http://img42.photobucket.com/albums/v130/WandaDuck/IMG_0831.jpg)
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Danise on June 06, 2004, 10:21:01 AM
Where did you get that?  
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Post by: Jason on June 06, 2004, 10:22:08 AM
I'm tres excited about the Tonys tonight. Tres, tres excited. When it comes right down to it, I'd like to see any of them win the award, so tonight's just going to be about enjoying theatre for what it is and for what it means to me. I think that all of those nominees deserve to win--they've all done fantastic work--so I'm not going to fret if AVE. Q wins over WICKED or if Donna wins over Tonya. I'm just gonna have fun.

My most memorable Tony shows: Seeing "La Vie Boheme." I'm not a RENThead, but that clip made me want the recording. Seeing my friend, Dan, performing with the cast of LA BOHEME--I was so proud of him. Kristi Chenoweth winning for Sally. I cried with her. Getting chills watching the scene from TITANIC. Sitting with my jaw on the ground when they did the three-diva opening (Patti, Jennifer H. and Betty) three or four years ago. I think "Defying Gravity" will be one of those moments for me tonight. And maybe Tonya's "Lot's Wife." Somewhere in the back of my mind I seem to remember seeing a performance of "Tevye's Dream" and "At the End of the Day" on TV. Don't know if it was on the Tonys or somewhere else, but I remember Fruma Sarah being incredibly tall and it scared the shite out of me. (I was very young). And I remember the audience going nuts for LES MIZ. I wasn't "into" theatre then, so I didn't pay much attention.

I'm going to a Tony-watching party tonight at a friend's house. He has most of the Tonys on tape from the early 70's to last year. I'm going to ask him if I could possibly get him to put the performance clips on DVD for me. Heck, I'll do it myself if he'll show me how! But before I can do any celebrating of Tony, I have to go wash my clothes...and see Senora Lavadora. :-\
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Post by: Jason on June 06, 2004, 10:26:49 AM
How do people feel about having the Tonys at Radio City? Somehow, I liked the smaller, more intimate feel of doing it at a Broadway house like the Imperial or even newer houses like the Gershwin or the Minskoff.

Before I moved to "the City," the Tonys were my only way to see what the inside of an honest-to-goodness Broadway theatre looked like. I don't know why it held so many mysteries--I'd been in dozens of theatres before--but those were BROADWAY Theatres. In my two and a half years here I've been lucky enough to see at least one show in nearly every Broadway house in New York, but I would still love to see the Tonys broadcast from the theatres where the magic actually happens.
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Post by: DERBRUCER on June 06, 2004, 10:27:17 AM
Hey Joey:

What's the scoop on the "Tales of 2 Cities" show pictured on your web page?

Also, you mentioned watching a "Song of the South" VHS - was it a copy of the Japaneses LaserDisc or the UK VHS done in 1997?

der Brucer (who thinks anybody who enjoys "Newsies" is a friend of his)

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Post by: Panni on June 06, 2004, 10:32:07 AM
Almost forgot my BET YOU DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE HUNGARIAN! of the day...

As it's awards day, first a factoid. Unfortunately, I have no Tony info, so the Oscars will have to do....
"According to the Associated Press, (AP-NY-10-26-96 1604EDT) people with some claim to Hungarian ancestry have been nominated for Oscars 136 times since 1929, when the first ones were handed out, and have taken home 30."
(That figure actually seems low to me, but who am I to argue with AP?)

And now our Hungie of the day. Because it's Tony day...[DRUM ROLL]
ADOLPH GREEN  - Green was born in the Bronx to Hungarian immigrants Daniel and Helen Weiss Green.
(And I can attest to the fact that he actually spoke Hungarian because I once had a lovely conversation with him in just that language.)
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Post by: Joey on June 06, 2004, 10:43:42 AM
Re: A Tale of Two Cities... Last I talked to them there is going to be a workshop sometime this fall. Didn't have any dates set. I feel bad because I wasn't in very good touch with them with the end of my first year of college I got busy. I emailed them not too long ago, but they haven't gotten back to me yet. Check out the website www.ataleof2cities.com and go to the songs and lyrics page. Several of the songs have full length clips you can listen to. My favorite is "If Dreams Came True". The producers are Ron Sharpe and Barbra Russell and is written by Jill Santoriello (sister of Alex Santoiello) Paul Gemignani is in on the project too which is pretty exciting, and Gabriel Barre is directing. I tend to ramble about it so I'll stop myself now. If you have any other questions feel free to ask! It actually had its world premiere at the Circle Theatre in Indianapolis which I thought was interesting.

I will be spending this evening with the rest of the people from the show I'm in at a pool/Tonys party. ;D

Song of the South is actually the Japanese Laserisc. (though we don't have a laserdisc player so we had the person who bought it for us copy it to videotape.) He was in Japan and saw it and knew we'd love it :). It's fun watching it with the Japanese subtitles during the songs. I wish they would release it on DVD!!!

Newsies is great, but for some reason. (I think its because my DVD player is cheap. The DVD player squeezes it so everything looks narrower than it should.  So I usually watch it on my parents dvd player or on my laptop. (Which reader works for MTI? I know they are planning on adapting it for the stage?)
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Post by: DERBRUCER on June 06, 2004, 10:45:57 AM

And now our Hungie of the day.

A Hungie is a fan of William Hung?

der Brucer
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Post by: Joey on June 06, 2004, 11:04:16 AM
Oooh I should add that Ron and Barbra just produced a CD of lovesongs that were sung by Jeanette MacDonald and Nelson Eddy since I know many of you are old movie buffs. :) It's them singing the songs made popular by Eddy and MacDonald.   http://www.russellsharpeproductions.com/sweethearts/index.cfm
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Post by: George on June 06, 2004, 11:08:13 AM
Another memorable Tony moment:

Michael Jeter and Brent Barrett (my first time seeing either of them) doing "We'll Take a Glass Together" in the GRAND HOTEL excerpt. After I saw it on TV, I booked tickets and a flight and saw it, CITY OF ANGELS, and other shows that December. All of the original casts were still with the shows, and overall was one of the best trips to NYC ever to see shows.

This was one of my most favorite moments.  And I remember Michael Jeter crying when he accepted his award.  It was such a personal triumph for him and what he'd gone through in his life up to that point.
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Post by: Danise on June 06, 2004, 11:13:03 AM
So everyone is fasting today?
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Post by: Joey on June 06, 2004, 11:15:49 AM
Haha I am not sure what I am going to be eating! I am sure the person who is hosting will get creative!
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Post by: George on June 06, 2004, 11:22:12 AM
I don't know what I'll be having, either, but I will be eating.  Right now I have to go to my sister's and help her set up some shelving for her garage.  I told her in no uncertain terms that I MUST be home at 4:00 (PDT) for the Internet pre-show announcements and then I will not be available after 8:00 PDT.  Post often...but no spoilers, please!!
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Post by: Panni on June 06, 2004, 11:37:29 AM
A Hungie is a fan of William Hung?

I can proudly say that William Hung is NOT Hungarian.
BTW - Newsies had a Hungarian cinematographer. And isn't it interesting that there are so many Hungarian cinematographers of note...Laszlo Kovacs, Vilmos Zsigmond, Elemer Ragalyi, etc. Wonder why that is?
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Post by: Panni on June 06, 2004, 11:39:55 AM
An interesting quote from an article I was just reading:
After the failure of 1956, the Hungarian writer Tibor Dery remarked: What is Hungarianess? A joke dancing over catastrophes," a statement that captures one aspect of Hungarian separation and pessimism. Another is captured by the 20th-century author, Arthur Koestler, who was born in Hungary and lived much of his life elsewhere, but claimed always to have dreamed in Hungarian: "The peculiar intensity of their existence can perhaps be explained by this exceptional loneliness. To be a Hungarian is a collective neurosis."
:o :o:o
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Post by: Panni on June 06, 2004, 11:47:34 AM
And my last bit of Hungariana for today...
"The composer Franz Liszt was a Hungarian by choice. Liszt didn't know Magyar, though he took up the study of the language in 1829. He is said to have stopped at his fifth lesson when he learned that the word in Hungarian for "unshakability" is tantorithatatlansag, a mouthful he evidently found insurmountable."
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Post by: Jason on June 06, 2004, 11:52:32 AM
Joey...I work at MTI and yes, we will be adapting NEWSIES eventually for our Broadway, Jr. department. Unfortunately we won't be adapting it for the big kids to do...sorry. If (and when) NEWSIES ever becomes a full-length show for grown-ups to do, Mr. Menken will do it--not MTI. You wouldn't believe the requests we get for it, and the extreme disappointment when people find out it's never been a stage show!

I ran into Senora Lavadora today. That hateful putana is using TEN (!) dryers!!! In one dryer (I'm not lying) she had four white t-shirts and a hand towel. And for some reason, without even feeling the clothes to see if they were dry, she went around the room and added more quarters to all of her machines while there were five of us waiting with baskets full of wet clothes. I noticed on one machine that she added two quarters (that equals fourteen minutes) to a machine that still had 18 minutes left! And she never even felt the clothes to see if they were dry yet!! I hate her and I hate her culo face!
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jason on June 06, 2004, 11:56:20 AM
OH! Tonight I will indulge myself and have a Whopper with fries. And then at my friend's house, we're having hors d'oeuvres--and he's making my favorites (mini-quiches) just for me. :D
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Post by: Noel on June 06, 2004, 11:59:07 AM
Extracts from an LA Times article (http://www.calendarlive.com/stage/cl-ca-pacheco6jun06,2,5787753.story):If Tony history is any indication, "Caroline" will have a tough time snatching the top award of the night from its competition. Almost invariably, the sunnier show has won: "West Side Story" lost to "The Music Man," "Gypsy" to "The Sound of Music," "Sunday in the Park With George" to "La Cage aux Folles…

"When you're a pioneer, sometimes it takes a bit of work and a bit of time," she says. "Sometimes it's better to leave it for history to decide rather than to try to second-guess these things."

But second-guessing is what Broadway producers are paid to do in terms of the audience's acceptance of whatever may be proffered. Those expectations change, as the revival of "Chicago" has proved so lucratively. When that John Kander-Fred Ebb musical opened in 1975, director Bob Fosse's black comic vision of merry murderesses was widely considered by both audiences and critics as too cynical and nasty.
[Bolding is mine, not the Times]

der Brucer

Well, I thank der Brucer for the posting and bolding.

It's been a wonderfully varied year for Broadway musicals: I can't think when there's ever been nominated four more different shows than Wicked, The Boy From Oz, Avenue Q and Caroline or Change.

We have a traditional book musical with star turns and a huge set.  We have that more-recent beast, the musical using a score that was written many years ago - and not, in most cases, for the stage.  We have an extremely funny musical that's also an innovation, as no previous show (even those with puppets) has been remotely like it.  And we have an unsentimental memory-play. a chamber opera which finds the link between Jewish and black music.

But, if the sunniest show wins, well, I'd have to ask the author of the article: which is the sunniest show?  Is it Boy From Oz for glossing over the ravages of death from AIDS?  Is Caroline to be considered sunny since nothing so terrible happens to its characters?  Is Avenue Q a sunny show (with one of its production numbers being "It Sucks To Be Me"?  Is Wicked sunnier?

Also, the author doesn't seem to remember that the original Chicago was a huge hit, embraced by both critics and audiences.  It wasn't nearly the hit of the other big show that year, A Chorus Line, but nothing is.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jane on June 06, 2004, 11:59:07 AM
Seeing Ronald Reagan again after all these years, I notice how much ACTING he did. Just watch the speech he gave when the hostages in Iran were released. The lowering of the voice, the breathless excitement, the dramatic pauses...

Yes, even when you didn’t like what he said, he still sounded and looked good.   ;D

Who remembers what they were doing when he was shot?  I was listening, with my boys, to a radio broadcast of STAR WARS.  At the time we lived in Connecticut in a charming Cape Cod style home.

When he died I was at the nursing home with Echo and the TV’s were suddenly full of the news.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on June 06, 2004, 12:01:35 PM
Good Afternoon!

I tried posting last night before going to bed, but my laptop was being "touchy", so I took that as a sign that I should finally get some sleep - for the first time in 36 hours!  I didn't end up getting to bed until around 3:00am, but I slept well, and even though I sort of slept in today, I'm pretty sure I should be back to a normal sleeping schedule - well, at least my sense of normal.  Plus, it's very sunny and bright today, and it's supposed to be a nice day weather-wise tomorrow too.

-Well, I just opened the blinds in the front room, and even though it is bright outside, the sky is a bit cloudy.. ah, well.. The sun is just being modest right now.

As for favorite Tony moments...  I'd have to say almost every musical number - whether from a show or something for the ceremony - is a favorite moment of mine.  The one series that always comes to my mind is when they did that mini-retrospective of the past Tony winners that included Priscilla Lopez singing "What I Did for Love" and Sweeney Todd.  I also remember being thrilled by the Evita sequence.

It will be interesting to see how tonight's ceremonies turn out.  There is quite the possibility for some very heartfelt acceptance speeches - and I'm always a sucker for a good cry.

OK - I want to get some "work" done today before the Tonys start...

Laters..
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Post by: Jane on June 06, 2004, 12:10:11 PM
Danise I haven’t read the new Dune Books.  Do they continue where the last ones left off?

I am recording the Tony’s but won’t be watching.  I still have a book I must finish reading.

Dan (the Man) your “Tony” is cool.  Is there a story to go with it?

Jason, I’m missing your cute face.

Panni, the Hungarian posts are great.  How long can you keep them coming? :)

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Post by: Panni on June 06, 2004, 01:20:51 PM
Panni, the Hungarian posts are great.  How long can you keep them coming? :)

Glad you're enjoying them, Jane. There are lots and lots of interesting Hungarians, so I can keep it going for a LONG time.
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Post by: Robin on June 06, 2004, 01:28:03 PM
A Hungie is a fan of William Hung?

The notion that he has fans at all perplexes me.  
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Post by: Jason on June 06, 2004, 01:48:29 PM
I just realized that it was one year ago on Tony night that I made the move to the Poconos to start rehearsals for TITANIC. My, how time flies...
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Post by: Tomovoz on June 06, 2004, 02:22:11 PM
Favourite Tony moments for me - the sequence from "Big River" and also Judy Kuhn singing "Rags".(I suspect I wrote this a year ago too!). I also like the dance sequence from "Big Deal" or whatever the Fosse musical was called. They were "Tony moments" that made me so interested in seeing the shows and buying the Cds. 2 out of 3 ain't bad.
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Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 02:32:10 PM
We're having a fine partay, but there are lots of errant and truant people who are going to be bitch-slapped from here to eternity and hell and back.  THIS is the place to be - not OTHER places.  We are happening, baby, we are the ginchiest, and the gearest, and the grooviest, we are cool, man, cool, daddy-o, so let's get with it you errant and truant people.

And one for Mahler.
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Post by: MBarnum on June 06, 2004, 03:01:24 PM
I just have not Tony Award comments to make, but I is here, where I should be...so no slaps will be coming in my direction I hope! LOL!

Just finished watching a most interesting DVD. STRIKE ME DEADLY (1963) starring Gary (THE VIRGINIAN) Clarke and Jeannine (PETTICOAT JUNCTION) Riley...first film made by Ted V. Mikels who is more famous for his films THE ASTRO ZOMBIES and THE CORPSE GRINDERS...LOL...but don't let that fool you, STRIKE ME DEADLY is one of the niftiest low budget thrillers I have seen to date! Quite suspensful and it has some great (and sometimes rather adult) dialogue! Clarke and Riley are newlyweds who are temporarly working as forest rangers. Clarke witnesses a murder in the woods and the killer tracks down the young couple and decides he must kill them. I am surprised that Ted V. Mikels made such a good film. As I said it is very low budget but he had a good cast and an intelligent script. Highly recommended if you come across the DVD (only $9.99!).


Now off to watch the DVD of the 1936 Ellery Queen film  THE MANDARIN MYSTERY starring my favorite Charlotte Henry!
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Panni on June 06, 2004, 03:26:25 PM
Note to bk and all other interested parties - As a time waster fun exercise I entered "Sondheim Hungarian" into Google to see what would come up. I was sort of hoping to discover that Mr. S. was of Hungarian heritage - which would by my coup for Tony day. Well, the interesting thing about the results is how many times a certain Bruce Kimmel came up!
bk, you seem to mention Hungarians fairly often, especially when speaking of Sondheim. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Just thought I'd point it out.
(And no, I have not as yet discovered the Sondheim-Magyar link. But I'm working on it.)
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Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 03:32:21 PM
Okay, where in tarnation IS everyone?  Two people in the middle of a partay?  Is this siesta time?  A lull?  The calm before the storm?
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Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 03:36:33 PM
If you frequent other theater sites, STAY AWAY.  There are posts (some with spoilers, some not) and thank goodness I got out just in the nick of time before seeing anything I shouldn't.
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on June 06, 2004, 03:39:24 PM
Where did you get that?  

Dan (the Man) your “Tony” is cool.  Is there a story to go with it?

I wish I had an intriguing story to go with it, but I bought it on eBay.
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Post by: Panni on June 06, 2004, 03:42:08 PM
I'm not opening my eyes until after the Tonys, lest I see something I shouldn't. (Driving my be hard, but I'll manage. This is LA after all and many people seem to be driving with their eyes closed.)
BTW - I have now done extensive research and Mr. Sondheim, poor man, does not seem to have any Hungarian blood. He is of German-Lituanian heritage, according to what I've just read.
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Post by: Panni on June 06, 2004, 03:44:59 PM
My advice to those contemplating leftover Mexican food for lunch: Don't. It made me very sleepy and very thirsty. (But it was tasty.)
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Post by: S. Woody White on June 06, 2004, 03:49:34 PM
Another memorable Tony moment:

Michael Jeter and Brent Barrett (my first time seeing either of them) doing "We'll Take a Glass Together" in the GRAND HOTEL excerpt. After I saw it on TV, I booked tickets and a flight and saw it, CITY OF ANGELS, and other shows that December. All of the original casts were still with the shows, and overall was one of the best trips to NYC ever to see shows.
And immediately after winning his Tony, Jeter was signed to co-star on the Burt Reynold's TV vehicle, Evening Shade.  The other award shows are where you see people who already are movie and television stars.  The Tonys is where you see the new stars for the first time.

Dang, I miss Michael Jeter.
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on June 06, 2004, 03:50:03 PM
BTW - I have now done extensive research and Mr. Sondheim, poor man, does not seem to have any Hungarian blood. He is of German-Lituanian heritage, according to what I've just read.

You know, depending on who you believe, Eliza Dolittle is Hungarian.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Panni on June 06, 2004, 03:53:58 PM
May I be the first to say that the world has gone INSANE. Just reading in the LA Times Real Estate section that a Bel-Air "tear-down" has brought in 16 million! The asking price, by the way, was 13.5 million and there were multiple offers.  There's more...There exists on the property a 9,500 sq. foot Colonial house built in 1942 by Paul Williams. That will be razed and in its place will be built a 33,000 sq. foot mansion.  
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Post by: Jennifer on June 06, 2004, 03:54:26 PM
Good evening all!

Wow, I can't believe it's already 7pm.

I went to my sister's new house at 1pm and brought her 2 flower boxes of impatiens (which I had bought her and planted that morning).  Then she decided that it would be nice to have flowers in her front yard too.  So off I went to get them (and then I planted them too).

Also painted the first coat of her bedroom (with her hubby).  And brought lunch and snacks. How nice am I? :)

I must run off now. I need to eat and I want to see Trading Spaces Family (before the Tonys).  Since Hildy is on tonight.

I must say I really liked her fabric covered walls yesterday. Anybody else see the show?



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Post by: George on June 06, 2004, 03:54:27 PM
Favourite Tony moments for me - Judy Kuhn singing "Rags" and the sequence form "Big River".

First of all, Judy Kuhn didn't sing the sequence form "Big River."  ;)

Actually, I thought it was great seeing her in both "Rags" and "Les Miz" in the same Tony broadcast.  I love Judy Kuhn!  
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Post by: Panni on June 06, 2004, 03:55:34 PM
You know, depending on who you believe, Eliza Dolittle is Hungarian.

She isn't??
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Danise on June 06, 2004, 04:00:39 PM
Is anyone besides me watching the red carpet web cast?
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Dan (the Man) on June 06, 2004, 04:04:45 PM
I'm watching the Pre-show on the Tony Awards website.  It's coming over amazingly clear.  I wish there was a way to record it
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Panni on June 06, 2004, 04:05:00 PM
For the life of me I can't think of specific Tony moments to talk about. I've always loved the Tonys and NEVER missed them when I was younger. I would get very emotional - even if I hadn't seen the show or didn't know the actors. Truth was that I SO wanted one for myself, thank you.
I have a good friend who won a Tony some years ago for "Joe Turner's Come and Gone." Made the mistake of asking her once how she felt when her name was announced. She looked at me like I just landed from Mars and answered, "I felt pretty damn good!"
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: S. Woody White on June 06, 2004, 04:06:08 PM
...I ran into Senora Lavadora today. That hateful putana is using TEN (!) dryers!!! In one dryer (I'm not lying) she had four white t-shirts and a hand towel. And for some reason, without even feeling the clothes to see if they were dry, she went around the room and added more quarters to all of her machines while there were five of us waiting with baskets full of wet clothes. I noticed on one machine that she added two quarters (that equals fourteen minutes) to a machine that still had 18 minutes left! And she never even felt the clothes to see if they were dry yet!! I hate her and I hate her culo face!
Oh, if only you had the laundromat franchise, then you could just sit back and laugh and laugh.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: S. Woody White on June 06, 2004, 04:07:45 PM
I can proudly say that William Hung is NOT Hungarian.
BTW - Newsies had a Hungarian cinematographer. And isn't it interesting that there are so many Hungarian cinematographers of note...Laszlo Kovacs, Vilmos Zsigmond, Elemer Ragalyi, etc. Wonder why that is?
Hungarians understand the differences between light and dark?

Just a possibility.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: George on June 06, 2004, 04:08:44 PM
I'm watching the Pre-show on the Tony Awards website.  It's coming over amazingly clear.  I wish there was a way to record it

If you know how, you can record the audio, at least.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Danise on June 06, 2004, 04:08:49 PM
I know, Dan, it's great!  I had to reload Real player and that cost me some time but it was worth it.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Dan (the Man) on June 06, 2004, 04:13:28 PM
If you know how, you can record the audio, at least.

I know, but I rather have boththe audio and video.

Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: S. Woody White on June 06, 2004, 04:14:23 PM
It's been a wonderfully varied year for Broadway musicals: I can't think when there's ever been nominated four more different shows than Wicked, The Boy From Oz, Avenue Q and Caroline or Change.
Try 1991, which brought us the nominated Miss Saigon, Once on this Island, The Secret Garden, and the winner, The Will Rogers Follies.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Dan (the Man) on June 06, 2004, 04:15:46 PM
I know, Dan, it's great!  I had to reload Real player and that cost me some time but it was worth it.

Danise, if you move your cursor near the upper left hand corner of the picture, a little box will come up.  If you click on the second icon you can make the picture full screen on your monitor.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: S. Woody White on June 06, 2004, 04:18:37 PM
As for favorite Tony moments...one series that always comes to my mind is when they did that mini-retrospective of the past Tony winners that included Priscilla Lopez singing "What I Did for Love" and Sweeney Todd...
Priscilla Lopez singing Sweeney Todd!!!  THAT would have been a casting coup, all right!!!  Always did think she has more talent than casting directors know what to do with!!!

 ;D
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 04:18:41 PM
Welcome nine GUESTS.  This is the place to be on Tony Sunday.  We're talkin' about the Tonys.  And we'll be talkin' about food.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Danise on June 06, 2004, 04:20:29 PM
Thanks, Dan!
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Dan (the Man) on June 06, 2004, 04:23:01 PM
If you know how, you can record the audio, at least.

DR George--I have an image-capture utility called SnagIt on my laptop--it records video! I'm trying it out now on the Pre Show.

West-coasters, do you want to hear the Pre-Show winners or do you want to wait for the quickie announcements during the broadcast?
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: George on June 06, 2004, 04:24:27 PM
I know, but I rather have boththe audio and video.

True, very true.  Someday, I'm sure, it will be possible.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: George on June 06, 2004, 04:25:59 PM
DR George--I have an image-capture utility called SnagIt on my laptop--it records video! I'm trying it out now on the Pre Show.

West-coasters, do you want to hear the Pre-Show winners or do you want to wait for the quickie announcements during the broadcast?

I'm watching the pre-show Internet broadcast, but I'm definitely going to have to find out about this "SnagIt!"
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: S. Woody White on June 06, 2004, 04:26:43 PM
I had a pretty good day at work.  We easily made our quota on sales, and I didn't f*ck up even once at the cash register.  Which made me feel really good, because my sole co-worker today was the boss!

I won't be posting during the east coast broadcast, because I'd rather be watching the show, so you won't be getting any spoilers from me.  But I should be able to join everyone after, while things are running for the westies!

Off to make dinner.  Steaks, baked taters, and summer squash (which I'm going to broil topped with cheese, should be yummers).
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 04:31:09 PM
I tried to get that pre-show Tony ceremony, but using a dial up connection, I guess it just isn't fast enough because I couldn't get anything but the videoplayer but no video on it.

I'm sure they will recap on the broadcast.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: George on June 06, 2004, 04:31:41 PM
AAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!  I DON'T HAVE ANY BLANK VIDEO TAPES!!!!!!!!!!  I have only a half hour after the Internet pre-show before Costco closes.  I should be able to make it...it's only 2 miles away.  You would think that for as long as I (and we) have been talking about it, that I would have thought about checking if I had any blank tapes.  Oh well, I realized before it was too late!
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 04:33:20 PM
I remember one of the years they tried dramatic moments from the plays, and they did a scene from THE GREAT WHITE HOPE. It was amazingly powerful.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: S. Woody White on June 06, 2004, 04:35:08 PM
A dance for Panni, who started Page Four!

[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%][size=20]CSARDAS!!![/size][/b][/move]
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 04:38:47 PM
DR GEORGE I checked yesterday - you can always tape over something...I suggest American Idol.

82 minutes until we see the Tony Awards at my house!
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 04:39:09 PM
I have lost something and I am trying to find it.....grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: JoseSPiano on June 06, 2004, 04:46:38 PM
Good Almost-Evening!

Back from Kinko's - I really like those new Canon copiers, some of the new features came in really handy.  My favorite feature was probably the "simplest" - the counter that told you how many pages you had copied so far which made it very easy to keep track of where I was and if I had skipped a page as I was going along.  And who knew duplex (two-sided) copying had come so far - and so fast!

Back from Target - I almost bought a home theatre system and a DVD/VCR combo, but I somehow resisted.  It is really amazing just how cheap the technology has gotten.  I could have walked out of the store with a brand new TV, DVD, VHS and surround system for under $225!!!  -And I almost did!  We'll see what happens as the week goes along.  Instead I walked out with garbage bags, some dust masks (got some major cleaning this week to get done), and some Vienna Almonds (chocolate covered almonds with a candy shell - quite yummy; I was looking for Jordan Almonds, but couldn't find them.  The Vienna ones are a nice substitute.)

I'm back from the Greek Festival (again) - I went ahead and did the drive-thru and picked up a pastichio (or pastitsio if you prefer) dinner.  Quite a lot of food for only $11.00: tiropita, spanakopita, yanni (green beans), rice and a nice "block" of pastichio.  All gone!  ;D  -Oh, and the pastry assortment from yesterday "disappeared" sometime around 12:30am last night.   ::)

So, now I'm watching "Trading Spaces".... Hmm... and waiting for the Tonys to begin.  I'll catch up on the pre-show winners during the telecast.  And I'll try my best to check in and post during the commercials.

Laters...
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: George on June 06, 2004, 04:47:43 PM
That's it?  the pre-show is over??  Okay, I'm off to get video tapes...and dinner.  I'm starving!  And Jack, thanks for the suggestion, but I've never taped, let alone even seen an American Idol episode.  Maybe next season.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Dan (the Man) on June 06, 2004, 04:48:09 PM
Well, that was pretty uneventful (the Pre Show, I mean.)  They acted like they were short on time and it's already over at 7:48.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: JoseSPiano on June 06, 2004, 04:50:13 PM
DR George - When I've found myself in a blank VHS tape pinch, I've found that CVS, Eckerd, 7-11, etc., has tapes.  So, if you're not particular about a certain brand...  But with a Costco only 2 miles away... Does your Costco stay open past 6:00 on Sunday nights?

I guess we'll find out...
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Danise on June 06, 2004, 04:52:03 PM
Yeah, it was a little boring.  
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 04:54:58 PM
NO NO NO DRGEORGE - I do NOT want to be the reason you start watching THAT SHOW!

GRRRRRRRR I still can't find it.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 04:55:19 PM
I have to say I'm really excited as the show is just getting ready to start. I'll pop back on between each commercial break. That means I'll be on every five minutes!  :D
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Panni on June 06, 2004, 04:55:21 PM
Priscilla Lopez singing Sweeney Todd!!!  THAT would have been a casting coup, all right!!!  Always did think she has more talent than casting directors know what to do with!!!

She played the lead in a TV-movie I wrote (FOR THE LOVE OF MY CHILD) and she was quite wonderful. (Sorry for the cheesy title.) There are many stage actors who are far too big on screen. She wasn't. She was very real, very simple and touching. And "simple" is hard.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: JoseSPiano on June 06, 2004, 04:57:06 PM
And for dessert - Edy's Espresso Chip Ice Cream!  :)

Almost time for the Tony's!!!!

-Well, at least on the East Coast.  :D
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Dan (the Man) on June 06, 2004, 04:59:07 PM
This part is cute--and funny--Officer Lockstock and Little Sally from Urinetown are explaining the procedures for the nominees and winners.  I'm glad I left the SnagIt recorder on.

The set looks like the same one from last year, which looked like the Gypsy revival set.  It works, though.  The show won't get lost on that huge stage (at least not on TV.)
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Panni on June 06, 2004, 04:59:53 PM
Thanks for the Page Four Csardas, SWW!
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: JoseSPiano on June 06, 2004, 05:00:38 PM
AAAGGHHH!!!

I open up a new browser window... with Playbill.com as my home page..... SPOILERS!!!!!

AAAGGHHH!!!
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Dan (the Man) on June 06, 2004, 05:05:00 PM
Now that was an opening number!
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: JoseSPiano on June 06, 2004, 05:05:50 PM
OOohhh...

I just spotted three friends in the opening number...

Sheesh, I'm starting to cry already!
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 05:09:22 PM
Can't wait.  Only three more hours here.

I'll join those who don't think the Music Hall is a good venue.  I loved them when they were in a real theater.  But they love having it in a place where they can allow in all the groupies and screamers, as if we can't tell that's what's going on.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 05:09:40 PM
Watching Bette M on Actors' Studio
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 05:10:02 PM
And yes, I don't mind if someone posts the pre-show winners here now.  If no one wants to read it, just include a big SPOILERS at the top of the post.  Thanks.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 05:10:25 PM
50 minutes more to wait for us!
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Danise on June 06, 2004, 05:15:22 PM
SnagIt?  What's that, Dan?  Link please!
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: JoseSPiano on June 06, 2004, 05:15:29 PM
OK - First commercial break... and I've cried twice?!?!?
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 05:16:14 PM
Nice opening number but a little too crowded a stage to get the full impact, and I'll bet it wasn't clear to many that the nominated shows were being represented on the stage.

Hugh Jackman is the real deal.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 05:17:53 PM
Sean Combs has NO BUSINESS being on a stage. Managed to mispronounce three of the five nominated actors' names.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 05:20:05 PM
Oh dear.....Quaker Puff Daddy
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 05:20:21 PM
40 minutes until Tony time here
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 05:29:36 PM
More reports.  Clothing?
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 05:29:51 PM
I mean don't we have a Mr. Blackwell here?
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 05:30:16 PM
Weird little moment with Kristin Chenoweth. Didn't really understand why she was there. I thought it was leading into the WICKED number, but, no, she was just flirting with Hugh Jackman.

FIDDLER excerpt: ho-hum. Always tuneful and powerful, but been there-done that. "Tradition" and "Bottle Dance."
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Danise on June 06, 2004, 05:31:34 PM
Don't want to give anything away but Clothing--Yes.  ;)  So far, anyway.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 05:32:38 PM
Best thing about the FIDDLER number was the steadicam track of Molina from outside Radio City down the aisle and up onto the stage. He did exhibit great poise in talking quickly and moving a LONG distance to get up on that stage.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Dan (the Man) on June 06, 2004, 05:33:16 PM
SnagIt?  What's that, Dan?  Link please!

Danise, here's the link for techsmith.com (http://www.techsmith.com/).  Look for SnagIt on the home page.  It really is the best image-capture utility i ever used.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jay on June 06, 2004, 05:33:33 PM
Almost forgot my BET YOU DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE HUNGARIAN! of the day...
And now our Hungie of the day. Because it's Tony day...[DRUM ROLL]
ADOLPH GREEN  - Green was born in the Bronx to Hungarian immigrants Daniel and Helen Weiss Green.
(And I can attest to the fact that he actually spoke Hungarian because I once had a lovely conversation with him in just that language.)

It's nice to see someone who was Jewish and in the entertainment industry who didn't change his last name.

 ;)
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 05:35:59 PM
Oh....they just showed a clip....I forgot how SAD the movie BEACHES is....oh oh oh...
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Danise on June 06, 2004, 05:36:50 PM
Thanks, Dan!  To late for now but maybe I can use it for Ball Over Broadway.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 05:37:00 PM
24 minutes until Tony time here
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Dan (the Man) on June 06, 2004, 05:37:06 PM
Best thing about the FIDDLER number was the steadicam track of Molina from outside Radio City down the aisle and up onto the stage. He did exhibit great poise in talking quickly and moving a LONG distance to get up on that stage.

Yeah, but I'm still amazed at Jackman being able to sing out loud while doing the high kicks in the opening.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 05:37:50 PM
I am wearing faded red Bugle Boy jeans shorts, brown socks with blue stars, and a purple t-shirt.  Should I put on a tie before the Tony Awards start?
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 05:40:04 PM
Page Six Dance!   ;D
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jay on June 06, 2004, 05:42:47 PM
Weird little moment with Kristin Chenoweth. Didn't really understand why she was there. I thought it was leading into the WICKED number, but, no, she was just flirting with Hugh Jackman.


What then?  He should have had his assistant come out to flirt with him?
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 05:48:23 PM
Tonya Pinkins has power, but her voice is in shreds. The angry first half was often flat and tatty. The second half, softer in sound and more poignant, was much better.

I'm not sure that number is going to sell lots of tickets for the show.

As for the Tony Bennett "Lullaby of Broadway" - why?
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Panni on June 06, 2004, 05:49:38 PM
JR - I think a subtle bow tie would complete the ensemble.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 05:49:41 PM
Yeah, but I'm still amazed at Jackman being able to sing out loud while doing the high kicks in the opening.

That's why I said he was the real deal. This man has REAL musical theater talent.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Dan (the Man) on June 06, 2004, 05:51:03 PM
Not a Joan Rivers here (I'm not even a Milissa Rivers), but I will say that Chita looked particularly nice in her white gown.  

Renee ("If you need help, here I am") Zelweiger is sitting next to Rob Marshall.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: JoseSPiano on June 06, 2004, 05:54:57 PM
!?!?@?#!?@#?@#!?@

I'm crying again!!!!
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 05:56:06 PM
It's on Panni....and only 4 minutes till Tony time here!
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 05:56:59 PM
Jose, are you chopping onions?
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: George on June 06, 2004, 05:59:37 PM
DR George - When I've found myself in a blank VHS tape pinch, I've found that CVS, Eckerd, 7-11, etc., has tapes.  So, if you're not particular about a certain brand...  But with a Costco only 2 miles away... Does your Costco stay open past 6:00 on Sunday nights?

I guess we'll find out...

Yes, you will.  I thought that they closed at 5:30, but people were still there just moseying about at 5:20.  And after I got a couple of sub sandwiches at Port of Subs (practically next door), Costco was still open at 5:45.  The hours must have changed.  Also, there is no longer a 7-11 anywhere near here (the only one closed several years ago) and I've never heard of CVS or Eckerd.

Anyway, while at Costco I got (total impulse buy, I know) a caramel flan.  We'll see how it is.  I like the ones that I've gotten at Mexican restaurants, but I've never gotten a giant, Costco-pie-sized one for $11.99.  Ounce for ounce, it's definitely cheaper than at a restaurant.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 06:01:29 PM
Opening Number!!!!!  Tony Time!!!!

Hmmmmm....I didn't know DREAMGIRLS was even nominated.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 06:02:13 PM
"Defying Gravity" was good, not great. Can't wait to see it in its own theater with all the effects.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: George on June 06, 2004, 06:02:37 PM
I open up a new browser window... with Playbill.com as my home page..... SPOILERS!!!!!

What?? HHW is MY homepage! ;D
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Danise on June 06, 2004, 06:06:01 PM
Have a hankie, Jose.  Blow your nose.

Loved  "Defying Gravity".  I still wish I had taken my binoculars when I saw “Wicked”.  I will go see it again, if/when it goes on tour.

 I couldn’t wait and started the book last night.  I’m enjoying it so far.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 06:06:01 PM
Nicole Kidman is wearing her curtains with a weird neckline.  Whew!  Makes her look even skinnier!

And it's neckties NOT tuxes for the guys.  GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.   I am taking my bow tie off.

GREAT OPENING NUMBER!  Busy and a LOT of fun!
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: JoseSPiano on June 06, 2004, 06:06:18 PM
"Defying Gravity" - hmm.. I think the "effect" went off early - or at least it was modified for the telecast - or it just doesn't work on TV and the multiple cameras.. Hmm..
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Kerry on June 06, 2004, 06:07:36 PM
Since it is Tony Sunday, I like Tony Perkins, Tony Curtis, Tony Franciosa, Tony Quinn and Tony Roberts. :D
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: George on June 06, 2004, 06:09:01 PM
This part is cute--and funny--Officer Lockstock and Little Sally from Urinetown are explaining the procedures for the nominees and winners.  I'm glad I left the SnagIt recorder on.

I forgot to turn off my audio recorder and actually got this!  It was pretty darned funny, especially the comment about meeting Hugh Jackman! ;) ;D ;)
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: JoseSPiano on June 06, 2004, 06:10:31 PM
Not to "brag", but when I saw WICKED from the 7th row, center, "Defying Gravity" was truly electrifying.

Well, at least they showed clips from BIG RIVER just now...
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 06:10:52 PM
Kristen Ch....gained a bit of weight there, girlfriend.  Lovely backless dress on the winner.

But all of the nominees are dressed beautifully.  No dumb Hollywood couture!
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: JoseSPiano on June 06, 2004, 06:16:03 PM
:D!!!!!!
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 06:16:56 PM
First commercial two nice acceptance speeches.

Puff Daddy - if he acts like he reads....whew!  Phylicia looking regal so that people don't think she dresses like her character in the show (the Audrey Meadows syndrome).

Everyone seems to be having a great time.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 06:17:30 PM
Neither of my first two choices were correct!  Whew!  There goes my $5.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 06:22:39 PM
I was surprised they used "Swing!" instead of "Conga!" for WONDERFUL TOWN. It seemed to be lacking fire.


Gosh, I sound so critical, but I AM enjoying the show. It's just that the numbers aren't electrifying.

There have been some surprises in the awards, that's for sure.

BTW, loved puppet Rod flirting with Hugh Jackman.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 06:24:24 PM
Wait a minute - tuxes are back....make up your mind.

And what is with Sigourney Weaver's dress?  Black criss cross....cut WAY low and hanging down in the back and up to Honolulu in the front.  Damn...I wish the people doing hems would make up their minds.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 06:24:41 PM
The BIG RIVER intropduction and clips were my favorites thus far. [gulp!]
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Dan (the Man) on June 06, 2004, 06:25:31 PM
Not to "brag", but when I saw WICKED from the 7th row, center, "Defying Gravity" was truly electrifying.

It does work so much better in the actual show, but then there's also the advantage of all the build up to it.  It is an ideal musical scene and a terrific first act finale.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 06:30:35 PM
Liked the FIDDLER number....opening notes unexpected and impressive.  Moreso than that Poetry &$%# last year that tried sort of the same location thing.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 06:32:35 PM
Page Seven Dance!  ;D
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Danise on June 06, 2004, 06:33:45 PM
I have to admit it is more fun for me this time having seen some of the shows while on my trip but I'm tiring out.  

I'm sure I'll read all about the rest of it tomorrow.    5:30 AM comes early.  'Night all.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: JoseSPiano on June 06, 2004, 06:34:39 PM
Well, if they used "Conga" then they wouldn't have been able to feature the whole cast - well, everyone except for the supporting leads.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 06:35:01 PM
Strong voices in ASSASSINS - "Everybody's Got the Right" reprise. I am REALLY looking forward to seeing this show in July.

Those next awards offered no surprises.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 06:36:21 PM
First waste of valuable time - Tony Bennett.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Dan (the Man) on June 06, 2004, 06:40:08 PM
Oy!  Maybe it's a good thing that the Tony TV audience is small.  Can you imagine the complaints about the Assassins number with Reagan's death this weekend?
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 06:41:47 PM
If you are going to wear a strapless dress, and you want it to be tight enough so it doesn't fall down....don't let it be so tight that your boobs pooch out at the sides.  Just a thought.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 06:47:55 PM
Jay-sus ... why is Caroline so mad?
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: George on June 06, 2004, 06:52:01 PM
Oy!  Maybe it's a good thing that the Tony TV audience is small.  Can you imagine the complaints about the Assassins number with Reagan's death this weekend?

At least they didn't feature "Unworthy of Your Love." :o
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 06:52:30 PM
Yep, AVENUE Q is cute as a button, funny, sweet, fun. ENjoyed seeing "It Sux to Be Me." This is another show I'll get to see in the flesh (felt?) in July.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Dan (the Man) on June 06, 2004, 06:53:24 PM
Jay-sus ... why is Caroline so mad?

That number takes place right after she's been thrown out of the Dreamettes.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: JoseSPiano on June 06, 2004, 06:58:29 PM
Hubba-Hubba!  Who was sitting next to Anne Heche?

;)
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 07:03:01 PM
Ohhhhhhhhhh....that explains it DTM....gotcha.  Thanks....I can see how it would inspire that number....and maybe even that dress.

JHC!  Is there any singing in WICKED or is it all that yellin' crap?
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 07:04:34 PM
One hour to LA Tony Time.  Loving your comments, keep 'em coming.

I will say that the season finale of The Sopranos, after all the ridiculous grandstanding by HBO, was disappointing.  Had they not tried to sell it as the second coming (I am entirely sick of the HBO over-dramatic coming attractions - really, they need to be stopped), then it would have been just another episode and fine.  Nowhere near the power of previous season finales.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 07:05:08 PM
I'm starving, I tell you, starving.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 07:05:29 PM
Dinner should be here momentarily, and then I shan't be starving anymore.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 07:10:57 PM
More proof that Hugh Jackman ought to be the biggest star in the world. A show stopping moment despite a nothing song to sing. But what a performance!
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 07:12:02 PM
Jose, that was Anne's husband Colley Laffoon sitting next to her.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: JoseSPiano on June 06, 2004, 07:14:00 PM
well, I have to wonder if they would have given that much time to "I Am Not The Boy Next Door" from  THE BOY FROM OZ if Hugh Jackman wasn't hosting...  But I did enjoy the number... And Hugh's hips!  :)
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 07:14:12 PM
Well, we've only got the top musical performing awards and the Best Play and Musical and Revival awards left.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 07:14:39 PM
Forty-five minutes.  
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 07:15:37 PM
OMG LL COOL J - I was certain he was performing with one of the Avenue Q puppets!
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 07:16:01 PM
I could look at Hugh Jackman just standing there. He looked scruffy and unkempt last year since he was shooting VAN HELSING. This year, he's completely edible.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 07:18:09 PM
Well. there's another surprise (kind of).
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Tomovoz on June 06, 2004, 07:18:38 PM
And surely Hugh Jackman is not Hungarian.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 07:22:41 PM
Bernadette Peters presents the Revival Musical Tony. Hmmmm.....coincidence? I think not.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 07:22:48 PM
Was that WONDERFUL TOWN number supposed to show off Donna Murphy?  I would rather hear lyrics and see a number than what I just heard and saw.  Wouldn't convince me to buy a ticket...in fact, might do the opposite.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Dan (the Man) on June 06, 2004, 07:23:00 PM
You want to know what I don't like?

...

Okay, I'll tell you anyway.  I don't like it when winners mention all the other nominees in their acceptance speech.  I guess that they feel it's being gracious, but to me it just comes off as disingenuous.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 07:23:22 PM
Bernadette Peters.  :P
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 07:25:53 PM
I agree DTM.

Oh....my friend Patrick Agan said that when he visited Tony Randall years ago to interview about his experience working with Jayne Mansfield...Patrick was smoking....eventually Tony (this was before his fanatic phase) offered Pat an ugly ceramic ashtray....Pat said it was hideous.

"Use this," said Tony, "Kim Novak made it for me when we doing 'Boys Night Out' ...."

Not Tony Award anecdote...but funny...I thought.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 07:26:07 PM
Someone else can dance....I'm am too tired.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Dan (the Man) on June 06, 2004, 07:27:04 PM
Was that WONDERFUL TOWN number supposed to show off Donna Murphy?  I would rather hear lyrics and see a number than what I just heard and saw.  Wouldn't convince me to buy a ticket...in fact, might do the opposite.

I thought the set-up for the number was kind of cute, with the "villiage types" at the cafe table.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 07:29:51 PM
Thirty minutes.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: George on June 06, 2004, 07:30:08 PM
My housemate checked his e-mail at Comcast.net.  When he logged out, he didn't close the browser and I saw who/what show won best score & book.  Darn, no suspence in those categories for me. ::)
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 07:30:27 PM
Anne Heche wins ugliest dress of the night - so far!  From me, that is.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 07:31:14 PM
True DTM...but you don't see that in the theatre...and even then....
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: George on June 06, 2004, 07:31:39 PM
Thirty minutes.

And counting!  They're showing more and more commercials for the Tony© Awards during "60 Minutes" as it gets closer to 8:00 PDT. ;D
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 07:33:25 PM
Give me Priscilla Lopez any day as Mary J. Blinge interprets "What I Did for Love."  Ugh!
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jay on June 06, 2004, 07:33:55 PM
You want to know what I don't like?

...

Okay, I'll tell you anyway.  I don't like it when winners mention all the other nominees in their acceptance speech.  I guess that they feel it's being gracious, but to me it just comes off as disingenuous.

Better they should mention their lawyers?  Oh that's sincere.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 07:34:57 PM
Not unless it's pro bono.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jay on June 06, 2004, 07:35:39 PM
Give me Priscilla Lopez any day as Mary J. Blinge interprets "What I Did for Love."  Ugh!

They were gonna get Jennifer Lopez but she's on her honeymoon.


Again.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 07:36:41 PM
Nicole Kidman is presenting Best Actor in a Musical. Coinicidence?. . . . . I don't think so.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: JoseSPiano on June 06, 2004, 07:38:45 PM
Hmm... I'm guessing there's a new songbook (folio) out called the "Tony Awards Songbook" (probably a Hal Leonard publication) and/or maybe a new compilation CD... Time to check out Amazon.com
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 07:42:32 PM
Fifteen minutes.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 07:42:53 PM
The CBS promos are hilarious - trying to make it look like some MTV show.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 07:50:08 PM
I could not be happier about the winners for Best Actor and Actress in a Musical.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 07:51:08 PM
Ten minutes.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Dan (the Man) on June 06, 2004, 07:51:49 PM
The CBS promos are hilarious - trying to make it look like some MTV show.

With the screamers up in the balconies, it's more like the American Music Awards.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 07:52:41 PM
Of course all the errant and truant will show up tomorrow with the usual excuses - I was here, I was there, I was this, I was that, and we shall laugh and laugh and then we shall laugh some more.  Last year at this time, no one was errant and truant, there were no excuses, and, if memory serves, we had over six hundred posts.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 07:53:03 PM
It sucks to  be me.....LOL.  Nice puppet make out with Hugh.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 07:53:35 PM
It's early yet.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 07:53:49 PM
BK did you eat?
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 07:54:15 PM
You have five minutes before the show begins. I have five minutes left.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 07:54:37 PM
Oh and Marissa's black dress with feather trim.....beee---yooo--tee-full!
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: td on June 06, 2004, 07:57:16 PM
. . . and all i can say is "ugh!" ? ? ? ? ?
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 07:59:18 PM
Well, an interesting Tonys to be sure. Not exactly sure what to make of it, but the fallout will be very, very interesting.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Tomovoz on June 06, 2004, 07:59:49 PM
Question: Will I avoid reading HHW until I get to see the Tony Awards?
It should be finished and taped for me in a few minutes. Can I wait until tomorrow to collect the tape?
Decisions decisions.
If I avoid HHW, shall I be slapped fromm here to eternity?
Our morning paper (not mourning paper) headlines this morning:
"From Hollywood To Eternity". "World Mourns Soviet Buster"
Another  rewrite of history.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: George on June 06, 2004, 08:00:34 PM
IT'S STARTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Dan (the Man) on June 06, 2004, 08:00:52 PM
I'll be back to partay!  I have to run to the Wawa for orange juice.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 08:12:26 PM
Oh my DRMATTH has hit the nail on the head precisely....Hugh Jackman is the REAL DEAL.  
If Peter Allen had REALLY looked like that instead of 10 miles of bad Australian Road, I might have liked his music more....yes I am that shallow...or was.

Oh....and God is passing out Tony Awards again....and a more self-aggrandizing acceptance speech I haven't heard in a long time.  
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 08:12:49 PM
Another page....I won't dance....don't ask me.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Ann on June 06, 2004, 08:15:50 PM
Not impressed with the opening song...but they pulled it off marvelously in spite of it
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 08:18:12 PM
Very hyperactive opening.  Hate Radio City for these awards, and if Mr. Idiot Director cuts to that high angle shot one more time I shall put my foot through the television.  Hated the dress of the supporting actress winner.  Glad the supporting actor won.  Hate the patter.  Hate the cutting to only people they think TV viewers will recognize.  Otherwise, it's moving right along.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 08:18:42 PM
Welcome eight GUESTS.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jay on June 06, 2004, 08:19:02 PM
Re Sean Combs:  Validates my conviction to never trust anyone who wears dark glasses indoors.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Tomovoz on June 06, 2004, 08:19:52 PM
Oh my DRMATTH has hit the nail on the head precisely....Hugh Jackman is the REAL DEAL.  
If Peter Allen had REALLY looked like that instead of 10 miles of bad Australian Road, I might have liked his music more....yes I am that shallow...or was.

Oh....and God is passing out Tony Awards again....and a more self-aggrandizing acceptance speech I haven't heard in a long time.  


On all counts: Agree. And I'm not even watching.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 08:21:27 PM
I will say - that for me - Bernadette Peters had the prettiest dress....so far.   And she was very pleasing in her presentation.  It's just the hair...the hair...the hair....
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: George on June 06, 2004, 08:22:50 PM
Did anyone (else) notice that during the opening number, Hugh was not wearing his wedding ring and right after the commercial, (when he is wearing the tux), he has his wedding ring on.  Just an observation. ::)
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 08:23:06 PM
OMG - I just realized what this show needs....NOT Mary J Blige....it needs Guy Haines and Brent Barrett singing "PITIFUL PENNILESS BUMS".....
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Ann on June 06, 2004, 08:23:31 PM
Third speech of the evening and I'm already sick of hearing them...is that a bad sign?
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 08:23:43 PM
DRGEORGE - maybe his personal assistant was holding it.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 08:24:07 PM
Hang in there DRANN
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: George on June 06, 2004, 08:24:35 PM
DRGEORGE - maybe his personal assistant was holding it.

Hmmm ;)
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: ArnoldMBrockman on June 06, 2004, 08:25:30 PM
Best Dressed Female(IMHO)

LAURA LINNEY
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jennifer on June 06, 2004, 08:25:55 PM
Okay how to do this without spoilers. I can do it!

I liked the opening number, especially how they incorporated the casts from so many shows.

I HATED Tony Bennett and Mary J. Blige.  I wouldn't mind seeing pop performers singing songs from this season.  But why do we need to cut out BIG RIVER and hear songs from 30 years ago???
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: JoseSPiano on June 06, 2004, 08:28:11 PM
 ;D

Well, I'll be back... it's kind of neat/weird/confusing getting updates from the various time zones... But in the meantime I need to give my laptop a chance to "rest"...

laters...
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jennifer on June 06, 2004, 08:29:18 PM
Did not like Laura linney's outfit.

Favorite Acceptance speech: Best Actress in a musical.

Oh and re: that thingie with Kristin (at the beginning of the show). Has that happened yet?  I think it was just to give her a chance to sing (since she doesn't get much time in the Wicked number).  Also it was their attempt at cute banter.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Ron Pulliam on June 06, 2004, 08:31:16 PM
Here's a question:

Are we pro-Jackman as a performer, or anti-Jackman as a performer?

With all these digs about his personal assistant, it seems the mob mentality is out to crucify him based on innuendo and little to no fact.

Just an observation about the tenor of things.

And PPS:  Why would it matter one way or the other?
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 08:31:33 PM
Guy and Brent were available, we TOLD them we were available, but noooooo, they had to have Tony Bennet and Mary whoever she is.

Always fun to see the Fiddler staging, but Mr. Molina, while fine in the looks department, has not a drop of ethnicity about him, and therefore I'm not interested in seeing his Tevye.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jay on June 06, 2004, 08:31:41 PM
Oh and re: that thingie with Kristin (at the beginning of the show). Has that happened yet?  I think it was just to give her a chance to sing (since she doesn't get much time in the Wicked number).  Also it was their attempt at cute banter.

It failed.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jennifer on June 06, 2004, 08:32:39 PM
There were definitely some interesting turn of events.  At least not a total bore.

I'm trying to remember who had the best dress.  I did like Sarah Jessica Parker's dress.

There is one nominee's dress who I think I would have liked.  But I only saw it from the sitting down position (I won't say who it was, because then you'll know she didn't win).  But it was one of the Best Actress in a musical nominees.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jay on June 06, 2004, 08:32:46 PM
Here's a question:

Are we pro-Jackman as a performer, or anti-Jackman as a performer?

With all these digs about his personal assistant, it seems the mob mentality is out to crucify him based on innuendo and little to no fact.

Just an observation about the tenor of things.

And PPS:  Why would it matter one way or the other?

Majorly pro.  Was just trying to be funny.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 08:32:49 PM
Welcome fourteen GUESTS!  They can't give out very important awards on TV, but they CAN do lame bits like the one with Kristin.  Totally a time waster.  Skammen.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 08:33:00 PM
Still, it's the TONYS!
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 08:33:42 PM
Damn them, damn the all to hell.  I tell you, Guy and Brent were ready, willing, and able, not necessarily in that order.  It's been six minutes, are the commercials over yet?
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jennifer on June 06, 2004, 08:34:29 PM
DR Jay: I thought the thing with Kristin in a bubble was really cute actually.  

The funniest line of the show was actually the banter with Nathan Lane and Sarah Jessica Parker (when they presented).  Look for it.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: td on June 06, 2004, 08:36:28 PM
Here's a question:

Are we pro-Jackman as a performer, or anti-Jackman as a performer?

With all these digs about his personal assistant, it seems the mob mentality is out to crucify him based on innuendo and little to no fact.

Just an observation about the tenor of things.

And PPS:  Why would it matter one way or the other?

I'm actually PRO-jackman;  i wish that they had let him rest before recording THE BOY FROM OZ, 'cos he sounds tired and flat on the recording - - and it's not part of the character he's portraying.
I love his OKLAHOMA!; i  think he's one of the most charming hosts ever on the Tony awards. . .and, like my friend in Cincinnatti, found him to be extremely gay tonight. . .well, maybe he had just finished viewing GIGI.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 08:37:33 PM
SJP was well dressed - even with that damn THANG on her chin.

Wait my TV changed itself to American Idol...dammit....oh no wait, that's Mary J Blige....OMG....Bleh!

RLP....we are pro Hugh Jackman...and we are making observations.  Who else would hold it - Miss Golden Globes....

Maybe Guy and Brent should have just shown up at Radio City.  It couldn't hurt.

I am conflicted about Laura's dress.  I liked the jacket but not the neckline.  If I may express myself, RLP....
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jennifer on June 06, 2004, 08:43:36 PM
Can someone on the West Coast tell me which awards they have given out so that I can talk about them.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Dan (the Man) on June 06, 2004, 08:46:10 PM
Oh....and God is passing out Tony Awards again....and a more self-aggrandizing acceptance speech I haven't heard in a long time.  

I know of whom you speak and couldn't agree more.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jennifer on June 06, 2004, 08:48:32 PM
I'm curious which musical number people think came across the best.  I'm thinking Avenue Q singing "It sucks to be me".
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 08:49:26 PM
Just finished giving out Best Choreography, and was happy for Kathleen, who, while not brilliantly talented, is a swell person.

Caroline, or Change: Really didn't like this number, and therefore don't hold much hope out that I will enjoy the show or the CD.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 08:49:54 PM
I will be that there is, as I said earlier, one full hour of commercials.  
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: S. Woody White on June 06, 2004, 08:50:11 PM
I will say - that for me - Bernadette Peters had the prettiest dress....so far.   And she was very pleasing in her presentation.  It's just the hair...the hair...the hair....
She's had that hair for ages.  It's really a wig designed by Eva Gabor.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 08:50:27 PM
You could say I'm very PRO Jackman. I'd like to see him try something really serious and dramatic (not Wolverine) - Biff in DEATH OF A SALESMAN or Stanley in STREETCAR. He sure can do everything else effortlessly.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jennifer on June 06, 2004, 08:51:21 PM
So did they show Best Featured Actress in a play yet?
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 08:51:51 PM
I agree Jennifer....although the number from BOY FROM OZ really showed off the main asset of the production.

Heartfelt and emotional speeches by winners of Best Actor and Actress in a Musical.  And my favorite dress of the evening.....worn by winner of this category.  

Renee's dress was nice....if she was coming from a cocktail party.  :o
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 08:52:05 PM
Yes, my recording timed out at 2 hours, 4 minutes exclusing commercials.

I'm sure the CAROLINE number is powerful in the show after 2 hours' buildup, but pulled out of context and presented here, it was a misfire of the highest order for me.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 08:53:10 PM
That explains THAT....thanks SWW.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: td on June 06, 2004, 08:53:16 PM
I agree Jennifer....although the number from BOY FROM OZ really showed off the main asset of the production.

Heartfelt and emotional speeches by winners of Best Actor and Actress in a Musical.  And my favorite dress of the evening.....worn by winner of this category.  

Renee's dress was nice....if she was coming from a cocktail party.  :o

My favorite gown of the evening appeared on the winner of the best actress, also, Jrand! ! !

you have exquisite taste!
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Dan (the Man) on June 06, 2004, 08:53:17 PM
Here's a question:

Are we pro-Jackman as a performer, or anti-Jackman as a performer?

With all these digs about his personal assistant, it seems the mob mentality is out to crucify him based on innuendo and little to no fact.

Just an observation about the tenor of things.

And PPS:  Why would it matter one way or the other?

I think for the most part, it's just wishful thinking.

I, for one, am very pro-Jackman as a performer.  Not bad on the big screen, either (though I have yet to see Van Heusen.  Or is it Van Halen?  Or Van Heflin?)
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jennifer on June 06, 2004, 08:56:14 PM
I agree Jennifer....although the number from BOY FROM OZ really showed off the main asset of the production.

Heartfelt and emotional speeches by winners of Best Actor and Actress in a Musical.  And my favorite dress of the evening.....worn by winner of this category.  

Renee's dress was nice....if she was coming from a cocktail party.  :o

Why did they give Hugh so much extra time during his number from Boy From Oz?  I thought the extra was cute (but they should have prepared the person first).

I LOVED the Best Actress in a Musical speech.  I agree totally heartfelt.  I didn't feel quite the same about Best Actor.

I know the dress you mean.  It was very nice.  But I think I would have liked to see the other nominees dresses.

What was that fur Marissa Jaret was wearing???
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 08:59:04 PM
For some reason, I never notice what anyone wears at the Tonys. I'm too into the performances and what they have to say. I honesly wouldn't have noticed Sarah Jessica Parker's dress if she hadn't made such an issue of it.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 09:02:09 PM
Jennifer said: "Why did they give Hugh so much extra time during his number from Boy From Oz?  I thought the extra was cute (but they should have prepared the person first)."

Oh, poo. That's the wildness and fun of Peter Allen. He was totally spontaneous. Hugh was playing Peter Allen, so it was part of his act. Sarah Jessica has appeared for hundreds of stage performances since being Annie as a little girl. She's used to performing without a net, too. All stage performers have to be able to do it.

Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 09:02:30 PM
Thanks td...all my taste is NOT in my mouth....as the old saying goes.

All in all, I enjoyed the show and hopefully those on the West Coast will enjoy the rest of them.

Comments please, left coasters!
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 09:04:12 PM
DRJENNIFER I think it was all about the moment...and as MATTH wrote, all about how Hugh as Peter works....a prepared and rehearsed bit would not have been as enjoyable...IMHO.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 09:04:39 PM
Best book, very surprising.  Poor Winnie.

Defying Gravity, as others have pointed out, was not well served by TV, although with it's screaming vocals and smoke and lighting, it's just the kind of thing that will get even more people in to see it, unlike Caroline - I'm sure after seeing that number, people will stay away in droves.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Jay on June 06, 2004, 09:04:49 PM
For some reason, I never notice what anyone wears at the Tonys.

When was the last time your card was validated, Dear Reader Matt H?
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: S. Woody White on June 06, 2004, 09:05:13 PM
A note on the numbers performed:

No wonder that Marshall won for Wonderful Town's choreography: her work played best.  Period.  There wasn't any real choreography shown for any other show, other than Fiddler, which wasn't shown well (and has been done before).  Certainly none of the new musicals were shown to have good dance sections.  "Swing," on the other hand, was a fairly well done number, and showed well on the tube.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: George on June 06, 2004, 09:05:40 PM
They haven't announce best actress in a musical yet.  So, I don't know what dress you're talking about...yet.
Title: Re:TONY SUNDAY
Post by: Dan (the Man) on June 06, 2004, 09:06:30 PM
I'm curious which musical number people think came across the best.  I'm thinking Avenue Q singing "It sucks to be me".

I'm leaning towards "Lot's Wife".  It was the most simply staged and there were none of the jarring camera cuts that always detract in emsemble numbers.  And that lone spot on Pinkins at the end was beautiful.  It's a shame her voice cracked though.
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Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 09:09:48 PM
I agree about CAROLINE, bk. After seeing that, I was glad I opted for AVENUE Q instead of CAROLINE. That was the last show I booked making my decision just this week.
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Post by: Tomovoz on June 06, 2004, 09:10:07 PM
Mr Jackman first came to the public's attention in a TV drama here - he played a very troubled prisoner. It was indeed a fine dramatic role. His performance in Beauty & the Beast (Gaston) followed. He is a fine actor.
Acting "gay" would not be a problem to most Australian male performers - they are not so hung up about image.  Eric Bana would not have a problem either. (td)
After all, Dame Edna is our patron Saint.
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Post by: Jennifer on June 06, 2004, 09:12:14 PM
Re: Sarah Jessica

I totally think that she SHOULD be used to being up on stage.  But I didn't think she handled it too well.  That was why I made the comment.

I get that Hugh was playing a part.  But it just seems to me that if each number has 2 minutes, then he should not have an extra 5 minutes to ad lib.
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Post by: S. Woody White on June 06, 2004, 09:13:03 PM
Best book, very surprising.  Poor Winnie.

Defying Gravity, as others have pointed out, was not well served by TV, although with it's screaming vocals and smoke and lighting, it's just the kind of thing that will get even more people in to see it, unlike Caroline - I'm sure after seeing that number, people will stay away in droves.
As someone noted earlier, Pinkins' voice is in rags right now.  A true shame; she had trouble staying on pitch.  Then, too, her show has a more limited appeal, while Wicked has a built-in audience.

As for the special effects for "Defying Gravity," I'm sure the lighting necessary for television had a lot to do with why it didn't come off well.

But Idina sure reinforces my choice of green as my favorite color!
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Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 09:13:19 PM
After seeing Hugh tonight be so versatile, I'll be pulling out my X-MEN films this week for another look.
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Post by: Jennifer on June 06, 2004, 09:14:43 PM
I was also very surprised about Best Book of a Musical.

And I didn't like Tonya Pinkin's number.  It hurt my ears.

I like Wonderful town.  And the choreography looked great.  But that was not the right number to showcase the show.  I cannot imagine anyone wanting to see the based on that.
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on June 06, 2004, 09:15:01 PM
I just read a fun piece of trivia:  what Tony winner had two Tony winners as parents?
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Post by: George on June 06, 2004, 09:16:46 PM
The Comcast announcements that I saw earlier were for best book & score...which were for Avenue Q.  Now everything will be a surprise.  I enjoyed Carol Channing's bit with LL Cool J and I LOVED what John Tartaglia (and whichever character puppet he had) did with Hugh Jackman.  That was great!!
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Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 09:17:27 PM
Re: Sarah Jessica

I totally think that she SHOULD be used to being up on stage.  But I didn't think she handled it too well.  That was why I made the comment.

I get that Hugh was playing a part.  But it just seems to me that if each number has 2 minutes, then he should not have an extra 5 minutes to ad lib.

All she was asked to do was shake her booty like him. She had a dress that wouldn't cooperate. She did what she could. She did get up there.

Jennifer, Hugh Jackman is one of the biggest stars in the world at the moment, and CBS has him on a three hour special. I don't think it's TOO unreasonable to think they're going to give him some time to deliver some ratings.
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Post by: td on June 06, 2004, 09:18:03 PM
Quote
Acting "gay" would not be a problem to most Australian male performers - they are not so hung up about image.  Eric Bana would not have a problem either. (td)
After all, Dame Edna is our patron Saint.

And you have hit the nail on the head, sir!  On another board, well, the only other board i regularly post on, most people want their idols to BE GAY, in addition to playing gay, and if they're not, or they show the slightest hint of "i'm only acting," then, they get angry and irate because the person is pronouncing their "straighthood!"
It's such a strange double standard, so, i avoid discussing it at all (on that board, which is part of a certain magazine favorite of mine).
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Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 09:20:26 PM
Amanda Plummer won for AGNES OF GOD.

Christopher Plummer (father) and Tammy Grimes (mother) have each won twice.
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Post by: td on June 06, 2004, 09:23:16 PM
Has the west coast seen Brian Stokes Mitchell yet?
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Post by: Jennifer on June 06, 2004, 09:24:24 PM
DR MattH, I liked what Hugh did with the extra time, and it was fun.  But if the other nominated shows have 2 minutes, did they decide to give him longer?  Or did he just take the time?

Btw, you West Coasters are slacking.  Have they done Best Score yet?

Can someone please list ALL the awards given out so far (as many categories as you can remember).

It's hard to talk when we don't want to spoil.

Plus I must go to bed very soon.
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on June 06, 2004, 09:24:35 PM
Amanda Plummer won for AGNES OF GOD.

Christopher Plummer (father) and Tammy Grimes (mother) have each won twice.

You got it!
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Post by: Jay on June 06, 2004, 09:24:44 PM
Regarding LL Cool J:  validates my conviction to never trust anyone who wears dark glasses AND a hat indoors.

Sorry, I thought the bit with him and Miss Channing was embarrassing for all involved, the viewing audience most of all.
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Post by: George on June 06, 2004, 09:25:02 PM
Has the west coast seen Brian Stokes Mitchell yet?

No.
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Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 09:25:15 PM
I must imagine that my friend Stephen Schwartz is not very happy at this moment.

I must disagree about the Wonderful Town number, S. Woody - I thought it was awful.  One of Bernstein's worst, and not served well by Miss Murphy, who is not my idea of amusing.  I thought the choreography was okay at best.  Not like the old days when we had great numbers from even not-great shows.  

Ave. Q is the big surprise of the evening.
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Post by: Jay on June 06, 2004, 09:25:25 PM
Has the west coast seen Brian Stokes Mitchell yet?

Yes, obviously on tape.
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on June 06, 2004, 09:25:51 PM
Has the west coast seen Brian Stokes Mitchell yet?

He's got to be seeing Michael Jackson's dermatologist.  He gets lighter every time I see him.
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Post by: S. Woody White on June 06, 2004, 09:27:39 PM
Re the actors winning the Leading Actor awards, when thanking their wives:

Strange, how they didn't identify them by name, merely by relationship.  Strange and sad, as if the relationship is more important than the person in that relationship.  Of course, the Best Leading Actress in a Musical didn't thank her husband by name either.

I mean, Jane has Keith.  Orr has Joe.  I have der Brucer.  Charles has Julieanne.  They all have names.  They are individuals, not the roles that they play in our lives.

Something is missing here.
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Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 09:27:51 PM
DR MattH, I liked what Hugh did with the extra time, and it was fun.  But if the other nominated shows have 2 minutes, did they decide to give him longer?  Or did he just take the time?


Well, the show was moving right along. Not many people had to be nudged off the stage, so they seemed to have the time. It wouldn't have surprised me at all for the producers to tell him to stretch. I don't believe for a second Hugh would think of doing something like that on his own. He's from Australia but he's NOT Russell Crowe.
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Post by: td on June 06, 2004, 09:28:28 PM
I must imagine that my friend Stephen Schwartz is not very happy at this moment.

Well, your friend Stephen Schwartz autographed the first verse of "For Good" for my parents' 50th wedding anniversary, the party which continued on into the Tony Awards party. . .I think that Mr. Schwartz is quite sweet to have done that.
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Post by: Jennifer on June 06, 2004, 09:29:28 PM
I did not like that red tie and shirt. Yuck!
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Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 09:31:16 PM
LOL....it is a mystery DRJENNIFER...maybe it was just thought of as an extension of his opening number...all Hugh all the time.  And who can object?

MRBK I agree about the WONDERFUL TOWN number, okay dancing, but not a showcase for score or soloist!
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Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 09:31:16 PM
As I posted earlier, I was not fond of "Swing" and didn't think the dancing was all that special nor Ms. Murphy very appealing at all.

The ONLY numbers I felt effective were the ASSASSINS and AVENUE Q numbers giving a good idea what the show was along with THE BOY FROM OZ because Hugh Jackman IS the show.
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Post by: td on June 06, 2004, 09:31:39 PM
Where is DR Panni tonight? ? ?  ? ?
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Post by: Tomovoz on June 06, 2004, 09:32:42 PM
Reminder: Russell Crowe is from New Zealand.
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Post by: George on June 06, 2004, 09:32:47 PM
Choreography, Kathleen Marshall, Wonderful Town
Orchestrations, Michael Starobin, Assassins
Book of a Musical, Jeff Whitty, Avenue Q
Score, Robert Lopez and Jeff Marx, Avenue Q
Costumes, Susan Hilferty, Wicked
Lighting, Jules Fisher and Peggy Eisenhauer, Assassins
Scenery, Tom Pye, Fiddler
Featured Actor in a Play, Brian F. O'Byrne, Frozen
Featured Actress in a Play, Audra McDonald (who named her husband), Raisin in the Sun
Featured Actor in a Musical, Michael Cerveris, Assassins
Featured Actress in a Musical, Anika Noni Rose, Caroline, or Change

That's it, so far.  Victor Garber is introducing the scene from Assassins.  Pretty cool.
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Post by: S. Woody White on June 06, 2004, 09:32:53 PM
I must disagree about the Wonderful Town number, S. Woody - I thought it was awful.  One of Bernstein's worst, and not served well by Miss Murphy, who is not my idea of amusing.  I thought the choreography was okay at best.  Not like the old days when we had great numbers from even not-great shows.
And that's horseracing.
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Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 09:33:19 PM
The ASSASSINS number was more entertaining than the entire production of the show I saw...and Q and BOY FROM OZ were all fun to watch...and might inspire me to buy a ticket.  CAROLINE OR CHANGE and WONDERFUL TOWN....no.  

RLP is being too quiet.
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Post by: td on June 06, 2004, 09:33:35 PM
. . .and what Mr. Jackman did on the awards show with the number, is what he does EVERY SINGLE PERFORMANCE:  takes an audience member onto the stage to dance with him during THAT NUMBER!  it represented the show as well as represented the nominee.
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Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 09:34:00 PM
Brian SM looks so thin.
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Post by: td on June 06, 2004, 09:34:47 PM
IMHO, the number from ASSASSINS was a beat or two off.
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Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 09:34:47 PM
Poor Stephen Schwartz is in the same situation with Julie Andrews, Rob Marshall, Jerry Mitchell: lots of Tony nominations and no wins.
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Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 09:36:03 PM
And Tony Randall too it seems.
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Post by: Jay on June 06, 2004, 09:36:43 PM
Re Audra:  You go, girl!
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Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 09:37:11 PM
I thought Assassins came off well, even though I'm not fond of the show.  That tune is very catchy for Mr. Sondheim.  Audra - gee I never would have guessed, would you?
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Post by: S. Woody White on June 06, 2004, 09:37:28 PM
I have a dumb question:

Why was the number from Caroline or Change called "Lott's Wife?"  What does the show have to do with Trent Lott, or his wife, for that matter?

 ;)
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Post by: Jennifer on June 06, 2004, 09:37:31 PM
Thanks for the list!

I felt surprised for Wicked.  I did not expect Avenue Q to win Best Score and Best Book.
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Post by: Jay on June 06, 2004, 09:37:57 PM
One person in the world with whom I would like to be stuck on an elevator least:  Miss Anne Heche.
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Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 09:37:59 PM
DR td, Tony Bennett seemed a beat or two behind his music constantly though his song. I think the performers have a hard time hearing the orchestra in that cavernous place.
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Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 09:39:22 PM
When AVENUE Q won Best Book and Score, I immediately thought of the year URINETOWN took those prizes and didn't win Best Musical (MILLIE did). Will the same thing happen tonight? Stay tuned!!

;D
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Post by: Jennifer on June 06, 2004, 09:39:58 PM
I cannot believe Audra won again.  4 Tonys by age 33. Amazing.
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Post by: td on June 06, 2004, 09:40:19 PM
Okay, my ass is dragging. . .even though the company is divoon . . .so, i shall take my leave now, and catch up with the posts tomorrow. . .

'sBeen a busy day, with some heavy seas, but I done my best. . .
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Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 09:41:39 PM
From the audience applause, I thought Margo Martindale might pull it out, but Audra won.
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on June 06, 2004, 09:41:55 PM
The ASSASSINS number was more entertaining than the entire production of the show I saw...and Q and BOY FROM OZ were all fun to watch...and might inspire me to buy a ticket.  CAROLINE OR CHANGE and WONDERFUL TOWN....no.  

Acutally, I'm now more curious about Caroline or Change than I was before.  I've listened to some of the score, and I didn't care for the music or the characters.  Now I want to find out where all that anger comes from.
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Post by: S. Woody White on June 06, 2004, 09:42:10 PM
IMHO, the number from ASSASSINS was a beat or two off.
My impression is that a LOT of the show has been a beat or two off, in the performances.  I think it has to do with the size of Radio City.  (Which is large enough to be one.)
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Post by: Jennifer on June 06, 2004, 09:42:27 PM
Well it's time to go to bed.

I look forward to reading everyone's comments tomorrow.
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Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 09:44:09 PM
Hmmmmmm. FALSETTOS won Best Book and Best Score, too, but CRAZY FOR YOU won Best Musical. Of course, CRAZY's score wasn't eligible for Best Score, so perhaps that's an unfair comparison.
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on June 06, 2004, 09:44:18 PM
Poor Stephen Schwartz is in the same situation with Julie Andrews, Rob Marshall, Jerry Mitchell: lots of Tony nominations and no wins.

Well, you can't exactly say that he deserved to win this time, can you?
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Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 09:47:35 PM
OMG DRJAY...can you imagine being stuck in a elevator with Heche AND Raquel Welch?
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Post by: Jrand73 on June 06, 2004, 09:48:15 PM
Yes time for bed here.

Wonderful to have spent the Tony Awards with you at HHW...even though RLP left early....
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Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 09:49:00 PM
I like the score to WICKED very, very much. After I see the show, I will see how it works in context.
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Post by: Matt H. on June 06, 2004, 09:50:17 PM
I'm going to head off for bed, too. I leave you West Coasters to enjoy the rest of the surprises - there are some!
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on June 06, 2004, 09:50:33 PM
I don't think I've posted this much since...well, I guess I never have (a Wonderful Town reference!)
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Post by: George on June 06, 2004, 09:53:40 PM
Into the Woods won best score and book and The Phantom of the Opera won best musical.
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Post by: George on June 06, 2004, 09:54:09 PM
The Avenue Q scene was real cute!
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Post by: Jay on June 06, 2004, 09:55:24 PM
Retraction:  The first time he came out, Stokes looked like he was on tape and I said so.  Second time it was clear his presentation was live.  Mea culpa.

Loved Martin Short's schtick.  Especially the line about a show being only as good as the director, just like the CIA.
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Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 09:56:33 PM
I, too, thought Avenue Q came off well.
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Post by: S. Woody White on June 06, 2004, 10:03:22 PM
It's late for me, too.  Manana.  Or later today, depending on the time zone.
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Post by: George on June 06, 2004, 10:04:13 PM
Direction of a Musical, Joe Mantello, Assassins,
Best Actress in a Play, Phylicia Rashad, A Raisin in the Sun
Best Actor in a Play, Jefferson Mays, I Am My Own Wife
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on June 06, 2004, 10:06:40 PM
It's late for me, too.  Manana.  Or later today, depending on the time zone.

DR SWW, can you give me a ride home?  I'm pooping out, too.

Strange party experience for me.  I'm sober and I haven't had my face slapped once.
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Post by: Jay on June 06, 2004, 10:11:35 PM
Loved the The Boy from Oz sequence.  Hugh was wowzers and SJP funny and human.
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Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 10:11:58 PM
Isn't it funny that what is generally considered the worst of the best musical candidates was the most enjoyable thing on the show?  

What are all these WUSSBURGERS pooping out?  It's only one on the East Coast.
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Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 10:13:54 PM
The best thing about the commercials is that it gives everyone time to post.  Thanks CBS.
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Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 10:14:07 PM
No more wire WUSSBURGERS, ever!
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Post by: Jason on June 06, 2004, 10:15:23 PM
Home from the Tony party. Your posts have been very interesting re. the show. None of the musical numbers came off as well as they do in the theatre. Radio City is far too large and the lack of the real scenery (the award for Best Scenic Design went to Eugene Lee for WICKED...not Tom Pye for FIDDLER) really doesn't do justice to what you would normally see in the theatre. "Defying Gravity" works FAR better in the Gershwin, but I thought that Idina and Kristi were great. Idina sounds fatigued, but not nearly as tired/sick as Tonya. Her performance tonight didn't help CAROLINE, OR CHANGE at all. "Swing!" works much better in the show, as well. They chopped it to bits, and Donna was really overdoing it tonight. AVENUE Q came off pretty well--really well, actually--and I'm very happy for their outcomes tonight. Poor Mr. Schwartz...I think he left after his award category was announced. I was pleasantly surprised by one of the awards...I won't divulge which for you West Coasters who still haven't seen the whole show.

Hugh Jackman proved tonight that he is a star in every sense of the word. Charming, handsome and uber-talented, I hope he does another Broadway show very soon after BOY FROM OZ. Audra: No suprise there, but congratulations to her. I can't begrudge her winning four Tonys by the age of 33. Give her another two years and I bet she'll be tied with Julie Harris. I wouldn't be surprised if she wins a few more in the future.

Re. Mary J. Blige: Priscilla Lopez she ain't, but you know what? I didn't think it was so bad. Times, they are a-changin' and if that means having R&B singers perform to draw an audience to the Tonys and keep them on TV, well...so be it. I'd rather have that than to not be able to see them at all.
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Post by: George on June 06, 2004, 10:17:34 PM
Best Revival of a Play, Henry IV, was just announced.
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Post by: Ann on June 06, 2004, 10:20:33 PM
Assasins and Avenue Q are kicking major booty at this point...
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Post by: Ann on June 06, 2004, 10:20:57 PM
Hey, I started page 13...is that bad luck?
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Post by: George on June 06, 2004, 10:22:11 PM
Okay, Ann...you have to do the Page 13 dance!!

Assassins just won Best Revival of a Musical!
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Post by: Jay on June 06, 2004, 10:24:49 PM
One of the women who came up to the stage with the producer of Assassins looked like she didn't realize she had forgotten to put on a dress until after she got to Radio City and rectified the situation by pulling up her slip to cover her bra.
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Post by: Joey on June 06, 2004, 10:25:14 PM
I have to say I was dissapointed by a few of the performances but Ave Q and Hugh's performances stuck out for me. I was thinking about talking about my Tony predictions for Ave Q but that would give it away and I can't do that! Good thing I thought about it! This broadcast was better than most, but I still have a few qualms. Hopefully I'll be able to get tickets to the show that won best new musical when I go to New York with the national publicty it's gotten. (Won't be until October, so I am going to save up soon and get the tickets soon.) :-) Shouldn't be too hard! :-) Overall I am satisfied with tonight's results.
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Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 10:26:49 PM
I forgot to mention that Marty Short was the best thing on the show tonight, presenter-wise.
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Post by: Ann on June 06, 2004, 10:27:37 PM
While I'm posting -

Defying Gravity did not come off on stage as well as I'd hoped it would...that many closeups on Idina...not a good idea.  

Loved the Avenue Q song...fun to see how it differs from what I was imagining in my mind all this time.

So far I'm not objecting strongly to any clothing...I'm liking the little black dresses.

Best speech of the evening so far goes to Phylicia Rashad.

Was that Neil Patrick Harris in the cast of Assassins?
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Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 10:34:44 PM
The nadir of the show is now happening - someone named Mary J. Blige is wooing her way through What I Did for Love.  Every line has to have multiple "woo"s in it.  And I just don't take seriously anyone who has to have highly visible tattoos on both their arms.  I had to leave the room.
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Post by: Joey on June 06, 2004, 10:36:08 PM
My favorite dress had to be the one worn by the lovely and wonderfully talented Carol Channing. You just gotta love her! :)
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Post by: Jay on June 06, 2004, 10:36:46 PM
The nadir of the show is now happening - someone named Mary J. Blige is wooing her way through What I Did for Love.  Every line has to have multiple "woo"s in it.  And I just don't take seriously anyone who has to have highly visible tattoos on both their arms.  I had to leave the room.

Ditto.  For this we had major awards presented before the telecast began.
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Post by: George on June 06, 2004, 10:37:33 PM
Best speech of the evening so far goes to Phylicia Rashad.

Was that Neil Patrick Harris in the cast of Assassins?

1-I agree!

2-Yes!
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Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 10:39:02 PM
We must have our official haineshisway.com post mortem from those who are left at the end of the show.
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Post by: Jay on June 06, 2004, 10:40:47 PM
Best speech of the evening so far goes to Phylicia Rashad.

Agreed, but am I alone in the perception that it did not come off as spontaneous?  It sounded like it was carefully wordsmithed and rehearsed and rehearsed.
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Post by: Ann on June 06, 2004, 10:41:26 PM
1-I agree!

2-Yes!

I LOVE Neil!  Such a cutie...

Lets see if this page 13 dance works...

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Post by: Ann on June 06, 2004, 10:42:40 PM
YAY IDINA!!!!!  I was so hoping she'd win!!!!


sorry if that dance pic was too big...
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Post by: George on June 06, 2004, 10:43:17 PM
The nadir of the show is now happening - someone named Mary J. Blige is wooing her way through What I Did for Love.  Every line has to have multiple "woo"s in it.  And I just don't take seriously anyone who has to have highly visible tattoos on both their arms.  I had to leave the room.

I don't mind the tatoos so much, but I also don't like all the "improvising" of the melody.  Can't these singers just sing one note??

I didn't realize until she walked on stage that I didn't know who Mary J. Blige is.  All this time, I was thinking (for whatever reason) that Macy Gray was going to sing the song.  I could NOT see that happening.
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Post by: Ann on June 06, 2004, 10:45:09 PM
Not a big fan of Nicole's dress...
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on June 06, 2004, 10:46:11 PM
None of the performances really thrilled me this year.
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Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 10:51:01 PM
Funny, the orchestra did not cut off Mr. Hugh Jackman's speech, the longest of the evening, I believe.  Funny.
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Post by: George on June 06, 2004, 10:53:04 PM
That doesn't surprise me.  It's about 10:53 (according to my computer clock) and they only have one award left.  How long could that take??
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Post by: Ann on June 06, 2004, 10:56:30 PM
Okay, Wicked got totally ignored...it got, what, two awards?
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Post by: Ann on June 06, 2004, 10:59:10 PM
I think the timing of the show was perfect...
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Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 11:01:36 PM
Well, I'd say the Avenue Q folks should be happy and making many trips to the bank.  It won't hurt Wicked, but I can imagine that no one connected with that show can be very happy right now.  Except Idina.
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Post by: George on June 06, 2004, 11:01:44 PM
Someone posted earlier that the east coast broadcast went to 11:04.  They must've cut bits out to make it fit for the west coast.  

Avenue Q won best musical!
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Post by: George on June 06, 2004, 11:03:51 PM
HERE (http://www.playbill.com/news/article/86594.html[) is a link to Playbill.com's list of winners, and they posted the number of awards won by show:

5 - Assassins
3 - Wicked
3 - Avenue Q
2 - Henry IV
2 - A Raisin in the Sun
2 - I Am My Own Wife
1 - Wonderful Town
1 - Frozen
1 - The Boy from Oz
1 - Caroline, or Change
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Post by: Ann on June 06, 2004, 11:05:41 PM
This might be the first time in my life that I've watched the Tony's all the way through.  Go me.  But I was happy with the results for the most part.
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Post by: Jay on June 06, 2004, 11:06:05 PM
I leave the show with the impression that Mr. Hugh Jackman could be the next Cary Grant and Fred Astaire rolled into one.  I just hope he is able to find material suitable to his talent and does not discover that he was born two generations too late.
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Post by: Jay on June 06, 2004, 11:10:05 PM
This has been one swell partay.  Thank you for hosting it, Dear BK.  You were entirely effervescent.  (As if you effer vasn't.)

And to all you Dear Readers out there in the dark:

The time has come...

to say adieu...

to yieu...

and yieu...

and yieu!
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Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 11:17:46 PM
I don't believe this partay is quite over yet.  It's not over until the fat lady sings.
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Post by: George on June 06, 2004, 11:23:40 PM
Well, I'm not leaving just yet, but I have to bake some cookies.  My Relay-For-Life team is having its last bake sale tomorrow and I have a box of Otis Spunkmeyer frozen cookie dough.  They're all pre-made portion sizes, so it'll be pretty easy, just take some time.

The last time I made these, I tried to make a giant bar cookie, but it didn't quite work.  It would be easier, but this cookie dough is not really made for it, and I don't want to through out poorly cooked cookies again.
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Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 11:27:27 PM
Cookies sound good to me, but sadly, I don't have any.  I did place a nice large order at that candy you loved as a kid site, but it hasn't arrived yet.  I had some red licorice whilst watching the Tonys, along with two Togo small sandwiches - one pastrami, the other their excellent almond chicken salad.  That's all I've eaten all day, and I'm trying to figure out if I want a snack now.
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Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 11:28:20 PM
And do we think the errant and truant will be a wee bit surprised by the plethora of posts on the plethora of pages?
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Post by: Panni on June 06, 2004, 11:28:37 PM
I'll catch up with all the posts later. Just saying a post-Tony hello.
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Post by: George on June 06, 2004, 11:34:14 PM
Hi, Panni!  Today's Post # 393!
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Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 11:34:42 PM
You'll catch up with all the posts NOW.  Now is always best time.  Etc. etc. etc.

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Post by: Charles Pogue on June 06, 2004, 11:34:55 PM
The Tonys are victim of what happens to every show that suddenly tries to "hip" itself up for ratings and tries to woo viewers who aren't interested in this sort of thing and aren't going to watch, Hugh Jackman or Mary J. Bilge or not...Something David O. Selznick learned a long time ago...Don't forget your core audience.  You offend them, you've lost.
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Post by: bk on June 06, 2004, 11:35:29 PM
I think if we all clap our hands and say, "I believe in faeries" that we might just make 400 postings today, which we haven't done in a 'coon's age.
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Post by: George on June 06, 2004, 11:44:28 PM
I HAVE to believe in faeries!  I know so many!
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Post by: George on June 06, 2004, 11:44:44 PM
And not to pad the count or anything ::), but I just put the first dozen Otis Spunkmeyer cookies into the oven.  Isn't that exciting?  Isn't that just too too?
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Post by: George on June 06, 2004, 11:46:04 PM
Ebert and Roeper are giving an early review of "Faherenheit 9/11."  I both really, really, really (that's three reallys) like it.  Two thumbs up.
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Post by: George on June 06, 2004, 11:46:33 PM
And one for Mahler!
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Post by: Jason on June 06, 2004, 11:49:46 PM
Help me! My computer is eaten up with Spyware and Adware! What do I do? I have run the AOL Spyware Protection device so many times in the last three days and every time I run it, it shows that I have at LEAST 5 programs installed that I don't want. It's slowing down my computer and it's really annoying having all these pop-ups. The AOL technician said I may have to backup all my files and reinstall the Windows OS. What the hell does that mean? HELP!!
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Post by: Panni on June 06, 2004, 11:56:06 PM
Still reading - only on page 10...
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Post by: Ann on June 06, 2004, 11:59:12 PM
I don't believe this partay is quite over yet.  It's not over until the fat lady sings.

And what shall I sing, bk? :)