We did a couple of the symphonies in school, and - I hate to say it, but I must, I must - those were always the most boring times for me. It had nothing to do with my not being involved in the playing of them. I was there to study whatever we were doing, and I just never thrilled to those symphonies. Most things, through study or even just casual familiarization, grew on me then, and that is still the case. These never did.