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Title: THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: bk on July 14, 2004, 12:00:42 AM

Well, you've read the notes, you've "gotten" the notes, the notes have "gotten" you, and now it is time to post all your excellent posts.  We are, after all, the ginchiest site on all the Internet.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Jay on July 14, 2004, 12:05:14 AM

Congrats on auspicious beginnings for What If--The Revue.  May it run for decades!

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: bk on July 14, 2004, 12:27:37 AM

Thanks, Jay.  If we were to have a tremendously busy posting day, we'd pass 55,000 posts - a new and heady (not Hedley) landmark.

Just heard the two Billy Barnes songs we'll be learning - I'd forgotten how much I love the first of them, and I'd never heard the second, which had me laughing out loud for its entire three minutes and twenty seconds.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Jrand73 on July 14, 2004, 12:33:55 AM

Wonderful first rehearsal story....hateful first rehearsal space story. :P

I am so happy you are including CHINESE FOOD IN BED....I am teaching it to myself in Sign Language!  Should be a hit at the cast party!  ;D

Tornadoes and storms yesterday!

My question for ASK BK DAY - did you find a choreographer?  And did you ever think of having one of the performers "sign" a song while another one was singing it?  The signs for CFIB are funny and surprising and touching all at once....  :'(

DR SWW - this is for you for your experience last night.  It always makes me cry and it always makes me think.

Somebody's Mother

- Mary Dow Brine (1816-1913)

    The woman was old and ragged and gray
    And bent with the chill of the Winter's day.

    The street was wet with a recent snow
    And the woman's feet were aged and slow.

    She stood at the crossing and waited long,
    Alone, uncared for, amid the throng

    Of human beings who passed her by
    Nor heeded the glance of her anxious eyes.

    Down the street, with laughter and shout,
    Glad in the freedom of "school let out,"

    Came the boys like a flock of sheep,
    Hailing the snow piled white and deep.

    Past the woman so old and gray
    Hastened the children on their way.

    Nor offered a helping hand to her -
    So meek, so timid, afraid to stir

    Lest the carriage wheels or the horses' feet
    Should crowd her down in the slippery street.

    At last came one of the merry troop,
    The gayest laddie of all the group;

    He paused beside her and whispered low,
    "I'll help you cross, if you wish to go."

    Her aged hand on his strong young arm
    She placed, and so, without hurt or harm,

    He guided the trembling feet along,
    Proud that his own were firm and strong.

    Then back again to his friends he went,
    His young heart happy and well content.

    "She's somebody's mother, boys, you know,
    For all she's aged and poor and slow,

    "And I hope some fellow will lend a hand
    To help my mother, you understand,

    "If ever she's poor and old and gray,
    When her own dear boy is far away."

    And "somebody's mother" bowed low her head
    In her home that night, and the prayer she said

    Was "God be kind to the noble boy,
    Who is somebody's son, and pride and joy!"   :) :'(

 


 

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: bk on July 14, 2004, 12:39:36 AM

We met with a choreographer tonight, but she's really busy.  She'll let us know if she can do it in the morning - if not, I'm going with someone who really can't start for a week, but that will be fine, and I've spoken to several people who really like her.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Jrand73 on July 14, 2004, 12:43:29 AM

Sweet!  

Absolutely no need for a choreographer until everyone knows his songs!  Many is the time I have been frustrated and angry and upset after an entire rehearsal devoted to A SONG....and the next day...the first hour is spent reviewing because "I don't remember my note....part....entrance...."

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.......

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Jrand73 on July 14, 2004, 12:43:52 AM

Nytol.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on July 14, 2004, 04:56:11 AM

Mo'nin' (an Auntie Mame reference) all.

I'm looking forward to watching "What If - The Revue" take shape. I adore the way Alet belts "If I Can't Take It With Me," and I'm betting she'll bring down the house with it. It's a wonderful song, but did its selection have anything to do with the "If" in the title?

Question of the day: What are some other "if" songs? Here are two more: "If the Rain's Got to Fall" (Half a Sixpence) and "If'n" (Happy Hunting). I find the first exhilarating, the second annoying.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Noel on July 14, 2004, 05:00:36 AM

I'd love to know about the process leading to the selection of the songs for What If.

When different people were cast, did you then find material that would be right for them?
Were songs dropped after casting because nobody was right for them?

Had you, before embarking on this project, a list of songs that you thought would be good in a revue - to draw on.  What "new" listening did you do, once it seemed Plan B might become a reality?

Did you ever get in touch with Marcy and Zina?  Their new musical, Junie B. Jones, opens next week at the Lucille Lortel.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on July 14, 2004, 05:15:26 AM

I have mucked with my formula and now I feel as if my terra firma has been removed from beneath my feet. I feel the wind beneath my wings has been taken away. I feel at sea, mid-air, without foundation. Wait one second. There, I put some foundation on and now I feel much better. Perhaps I'll put some rouge on, too.

BK, If your "What If" opening is as much fun as this morning's notes, you'll have the audience in the palm of your hand (a House of Flowers reference).

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Ben on July 14, 2004, 05:37:16 AM

Speaking of Junie B. Jones, here is a nice article from Playbill On-Line about the show

http://www.playbill.com/news/article/87316.html

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: William E. Lurie on July 14, 2004, 06:06:11 AM

Happy Bastille Day---

BK... what happened with that new reality show that was interested in hiring you?  Did you turn it down because of WHAT IF or will you be able to do it after the revue?

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: elmore3003 on July 14, 2004, 06:42:23 AM

Where is Francois?  He should be on the site today to report on the Parisian festivities for Bastille Day!

Congrats, Dear Friend BK, on final casting.  Your notes today reminded me of the Rodgers & Hart "Ship Without a Sail," which is one of my faves.  And that leads to my next thought about "What-ifs":

My favorite "if" songs are "If I Were A Bell," "If I Loved You," and "If You Hadn't But You Did."

I guess my question for BK is besides Alet and Tammy, whom I last saw when she recorded "Joshua Noveck," who are your other three cast members?

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Panni on July 14, 2004, 06:49:03 AM

Good morning. Thank you for the feel better vibes. I do.
Now for a quick walk and then work.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: S. Woody White on July 14, 2004, 07:13:41 AM

If songs:

Well, there's a whole list of songs starting with the word "If" over at the Musical Cast Album Database (http://www.eur.com/musicals/index.htm), which is a handy research tool.  Go to "Songs" and "I-J", if you haven't tried this before.  It's only good for titles, though, not songs that ask "if" within the lyrics.

Sondheim's "It Would Have Been Wonderful" from A Little Night Music comes to mind as a good "if" song, and a dang good duet.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: MBarnum on July 14, 2004, 07:26:30 AM

JRand53, that "Somebody's Mother" poem really put a lump in my throat. Thank you for sharing it.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Jrand73 on July 14, 2004, 07:32:29 AM

I know MB....gets to me every time as well!  LOL...we are just easy touches!   :'(

Yes today is Bastille Day....I can hardly wait the DVD release of the Dirk Bogarde A TALE OF TWO CITIES this summer!

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Jrand73 on July 14, 2004, 07:39:10 AM

Oh dear, A TALE OF TWO CITIES which was due on 6/29 was cancelled!  Oh, no!

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Matt H. on July 14, 2004, 07:56:38 AM

Didn't I read that the Ronald Colman A TALE OF TWO CITIES was going to be released later this year? I've never seen the Bogarde version. Is it in color?

I really love the Colman/MGM take on that book.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Matt H. on July 14, 2004, 07:57:08 AM

Here's hoping things are going well with DR td's mom.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Matt H. on July 14, 2004, 07:59:29 AM

In FUNNY LADY, Streisand sings the old standard "If I Love Again," and I've always thought that was a gorgeous song.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: JoseSPiano on July 14, 2004, 08:17:31 AM

Good Morning!

Well, nothing really new to add since I posted before going to bed last night...  I think... I guess...

As for Ask BK Day...  Well, the past couple of days for me have been "Ask BK Days"... As will today... And tomorrow... And so on and so forth... ;)

I have a ton of work to get done today, but I'll try to check in today the best I can here and there.

Laters...

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Jrand73 on July 14, 2004, 08:30:13 AM

DRMATTH - no the Bogarde version is b/w.  I like the Colman version as well, but Dirk is so much more handsome...and seems so much younger...that his wasted life as Sydney seems more tragic to me.  The Miss Pross and Madame DeFarge in the Bogarde version could never equal the actresses in Colman's version, but Christopher Lee is a good match for Basil Rathbone, and Dorothy Tutin as Lucy Manette is beautiful.

I think I like it best just because of Bogarde....and the Colman version didn't give us a satisfying ending....left us hanging....in the Bogarde version, we hear the final fall of the guillotine....  So sad.  Good book, good movie.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Matt H. on July 14, 2004, 09:08:46 AM

I know it does play on TV from time to time. I'll have to watch it the next time it comes around. I've always loved Dorothy Tutin. Her Anne Bolyn in THE SIX WIVES OF HENRY VIII is magnificent.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Jennifer on July 14, 2004, 09:16:32 AM

Good morning.

Some comments on yesterday's posts.

DR Jane, that is so sweet of you to make all that stuff for your group.  But maybe you should have given them some to take home if you don't want to eat it all.

S. Woody, re: putting on make-up in public, it's funny but I don't find that tacky at all.  Sometimes a person just doesn't have time to do it at home.

And re: helping that woman, I think it's nice if you talk to someone who is lonely.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Jennifer on July 14, 2004, 09:28:09 AM

And guess what? I ate chinese food last night.  But it wasn't because of reading about it here.  My sis and her company just decided to go for Chinese at the last minute and I went along.

But I have a question.

At dinner last night there was my sis and her hubby, her hubby's sister, 4 yr old (who ate a lot) and husband, and me.

When it came to paying the check, they all just whipped out their money.  Now all I had was a $2 and a $20.  But I always like to pay my share.

Now I didn't eat very much.  But they just took my $2 and that was it.

And I left feeling very bad.

Now I'm quite generous towards these people.  I often buy my sis and her hubby stuff and don't ask for money.  I painted their house, helped them move, baked them cookies and muffins, and bought them ice ceam (and this is just in the last month).

And I'm always sending his sister's kids stuff and buying their gifts for her to give them at Xmas ...

But I still felt guilty about not paying more.

Am I crazy?  I mean when dividing the tab, don't people normally just say "it will be X dollars each" as opposed to just throwing money on the table.

Thanks.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: bk on July 14, 2004, 09:42:49 AM

Our cast, in no particular order: Tammy Minoff, Susanne Blakeslee, Alet Taylor, Paul Haber and Ryan Raftery.  

The reality show never called back so I assume they didn't think I was the right guy - I sent them my two Bullshit! episodes to look at along with a resume.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: bk on July 14, 2004, 09:46:52 AM

For the second time in a week Fed Ex has screwed up, but this time it's really a problem.  Jose had a huge box of music which was supposed to arrive yesterday, which we were hoping to have for last night's rehearsal.  It didn't get there before he left, but when he got home he found some box filled with stationary instead.  OUR box was sitting in Louisville and won't get here until tomorrow.  And these creeps think all they have to do is credit us the shipping fee.  Nope.  This happened on a session once, and I told them if they didn't have the music to us within three hours that I would be charging them for the musicians' time, the studio time, and my time, approximately 2500 bucks.  They had the music there in three hours.  I've told Jose to do the same thing now - they can get that box on the next plane out of Louisville, they can have it here in three hours, and they can get it to him by five.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: William E. Lurie on July 14, 2004, 10:09:24 AM

Elmore... Francoise is on vacation.  He only has computer access at work.

My turn to ask: where is everyone.  We are rarely still on page one before I go to lunch.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Panni on July 14, 2004, 10:13:10 AM

Nothing for you to feel guilty about, Jennifer. Just read your post.
My bit to get us to Page Two.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Panni on July 14, 2004, 10:14:58 AM

...And one for Claus Ogerman.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Jay on July 14, 2004, 10:23:56 AM

I see the Federal Marriage Amendment has fizzled in the Senate this morning.

[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%] ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D [/move]

And for an example of how some of our elected officials need to get a life--and to put things into perspective--here's a quote from one of my least favorite members of the Senate:

"I would argue that the future of our country hangs in the balance because the future of marriage hangs in the balance,'' said Sen. Rick Santorum, a leader in the fight to approve the measure. "Isn't that the ultimate homeland security, standing up and defending marriage?''

To respond to your question, Senator Santorum, in a word, the answer is "No."

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Ron Pulliam on July 14, 2004, 10:31:32 AM

[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]Happy Bastille Day, François![/move]

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: George on July 14, 2004, 10:58:03 AM

Okay, I'm listening to the soundtrack to "De-Lovely" and (so far) the only way I think that I'll be able to appreciate it is to think of it as a collection of contemporary singers interpreting Cole Porter's songs in their own styles (with Kevin Kline thrown in for good measure) and not as excerpts from an otherwise "accurate" movie of his life.

Now, my questions/comments:  Did the music arranger totally rewrite some of the music (chords and chord progressions), especially in "Begin the Beguine?"  I keep expecting it to go in certain musical directions but then the chords just all seem wrong, especially the tempo.  And I HATE the "Blow, Gabriel, Blow" arrangement/orchestration!  Anyone else feel this way?  I like (only "like") Robbie Williams and Elvis Costello and I don't mind Alanis Morissette as much as I thought I would.  I’ve always liked Caroline O’Connor in just about everything she's done, but not this.  I can't for a second imagine her as Ethel Merman.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: William E. Lurie on July 14, 2004, 10:59:32 AM

Here is a link I think DRs will appreciate (especially DR Elmore and especially item #21):

http://www.theatermania.com/content/news.cfm?int_news_id=4911

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: bk on July 14, 2004, 11:25:54 AM

I don't ever mind arrangers doing their thing with the routine of songs - tempo, vamps, moving things around in an interesting way.  What I do mind is when they reharmonize - it shouldn't be allowed and Mr. Porter would not be happy if that's what they've done.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: bk on July 14, 2004, 11:27:12 AM

And might I just ask where in tarnation IS everyone?  I'm working very hard here, and I need my haineshisway.com posting fix and there's no one here posting.  Let's fix that so I can have my fix.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Jennifer on July 14, 2004, 11:29:26 AM

Re: chinese food last night

Since I wasn't that hungry, I didn't even pay attention or contribute to what was ordered.

But they did order General Taos chicken.

The little boy, who just turned 4 LOVED IT.  He basically wanted to eat the entire plate himself!

Good taste! :)

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Jennifer on July 14, 2004, 11:33:05 AM

I must go now, but I will try to post more later.

Btw, has anyone been watching The Amazing Race?

I was NOT happy with the team that got eliminated last night.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Ron Pulliam on July 14, 2004, 11:47:07 AM

Would somebody call the doctor, please?

BK wants to be fixed!

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Noel on July 14, 2004, 11:55:00 AM

That Fed-Ex travail is horrifying.  Was this sent to your house?  Do you often have trouble receiving stuff at your house?  Have other packages of music made it there in the past week?

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: DERBRUCER on July 14, 2004, 11:58:58 AM

Quote from: Jay on July 14, 2004, 10:23:56 AM

And for an example of how some of our elected officials need to get a life--and to put things into perspective--here's a quote from one of my least favorite members of the Senate:

"I would argue that the future of our country hangs in the balance because the future of marriage hangs in the balance,'' said Sen. Rick Santorum, a leader in the fight to approve the measure. "Isn't that the ultimate homeland security, standing up and defending marriage?''

To respond to your question, Senator Santorum, in a word, the answer is "No."

Now, Jay, you are speaking to a Senator. There is a certain decorum that  tradition mandates when speaking to a Senator - a simple, brusk "No" is not in the current spirit of collegiality. I believe a more elaborate "F**K No!" would be more in keeping with the times.

der Brucer (a more elaborate response would reference the horse he rode in on)

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: DERBRUCER on July 14, 2004, 12:06:58 PM

Quote from: bk on July 14, 2004, 11:27:12 AM

Let's fix that so I can have my fix.

HERE 'TIS

(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000064SV.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Elan on July 14, 2004, 12:07:18 PM

Now, now, DerBrucer... mustn't forget the appropriate full address:

"F**k, no, senator!"
or
"F**k, no, you miserable excuse for a senator!"

are by far the preferred methods.

Of course, if you really wanna hear respectful political dialog, then you've gotta hear a back-and-forth at the Israeli Knesset. You can't really curse in Hebrew, which makes for extremely creative linguistic work (plus a smattering of fun foreign terms)

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Jane on July 14, 2004, 12:18:04 PM

Panni I can eat pecan and peanut butter yogurt, I just wouldn’t want to.  Glad you are feeling better today.

Tomovoz are you feeling better?  When in London be sure to get some humbugs from Marks and Spenser or from Tornton’s.  While at Thornton’s be sure to have some of their special toffee.

JRand-yes, SOMEBODY’S MOTHER is a tear jerker.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: MBarnum on July 14, 2004, 12:19:32 PM

DR Jennifer,
I am watching Amazing Race this season, but since it is on at 10pm I tape it and watch it the following day. Thus I will be watching last nights episode tonight.

I did, however, watch Big Brother last night and I can only say that I despise Scott and Jason..but especially Scott.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Panni on July 14, 2004, 12:21:37 PM

THE DOOR IN THE FLOOR, although an unfortunate title, sounds like it might be an interesting film for grown-ups. I really liked the John Irving novel, A WIDOW FOR ONE YEAR, of which this story is one part.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: elmore3003 on July 14, 2004, 12:22:48 PM

Quote from: William E. Lurie on July 14, 2004, 10:59:32 AM

Here is a link I think DRs will appreciate (especially DR Elmore and especially item #21):

http://www.theatermania.com/content/news.cfm?int_news_id=4911

Thank you, DRWEL!  I also scored #32 for Joseph Papp.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Panni on July 14, 2004, 12:23:31 PM

Jane - I know that pecan and peanut butter frozen yogurt sounds disgusting. But it's delicious - the consistency of creamy soft ice cream.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Jane on July 14, 2004, 12:24:35 PM

Jennifer, some people took food home but not as many as said they would, even after I said it would be trashed.  I left this morning for my Wednesday hiking group without the bag of cookies.  All I could do is call Keith and tell him to trash them.  Better the trash eat them than me.

Regarding your dinner bill, I know how you feel but sometimes we just have to be gracious and simply say thank you.  It also sounds as if they did the fair thing.  Since you hardly ate it would not have been fair to divide the bill equally.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Jane on July 14, 2004, 12:25:31 PM

Panni I'm sure Keith would like that.  He loves peanut butter in almost anything.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: DERBRUCER on July 14, 2004, 12:28:21 PM

Quote from: Elan on July 14, 2004, 12:07:18 PM

Now, now, DerBrucer... mustn't forget the appropriate full address:

"F**k, no, senator!"
or
"F**k, no, you miserable excuse for a senator!"

I stand corrected :)

der Brucer (who is lying when he said he stands, 'cause he's sitting)

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Stuart on July 14, 2004, 12:33:15 PM

Quote from: MBarnum on July 14, 2004, 12:19:32 PM

I did, however, watch Big Brother last night and I can only say that I despise Scott and Jason..but especially Scott.

Yes, but wouldn't you like to see Jase's omnipresent towel slip, just ONCE?  And can we talk about those schmattes on their heads???  Wazzup wit dat? (What is up with that, in internet lingo.)

I, too am a BIG fan of Amazing Race.  And I say "GO, Charla and Mirna!"  (That's not meant as a spoiler....I just think they are a great team....)

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Panni on July 14, 2004, 12:34:38 PM

Must get back to work, but Cole Porter brought back a memory I'd totally buried... When we were first living in LA, Dear Daughter Rachel was attending a very hoity-toity private school. (She was in kindergarten, then was skipped in a month to Grade One.) We were invited one evening, near the beginning of the school year, to an informal parents' get-together at the home of one of the parents.  We arrived at this rather large estate, went in to be greeted by a uniformed maid and butler, with a live pianist in a tux, playing away. Informal! The owners of the house were of the nouveau riche variety - very proud of it all and giving tours. I, of course, explored. There was one area, near the home gym, where the elevator used to be, we were told. The elevator? Yes, because the original owner had been crippled in an accident... You guessed it - Cole Porter's former house. I went around surreptitiously touching walls that he may have touched...
BTW - Shirley Temple's old house was across the street -- with her original playhouse still in the yard.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Stuart on July 14, 2004, 12:35:50 PM

And here is my BK question of the week, or for any of those of you who know:

What ever happened to those lovely Bottoms boys, Joe and Sam?  And wasn't there a third, equally cute, brother?  They all seem to have disappeared.

One of them popped into my head the other day (no comments from the peanut gallery), and I figured those in this forum might know their whereabouts.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Ben on July 14, 2004, 12:48:28 PM

Sam, Joseph and Timothy.

Sam was in Seabiscut in 2003(according to IMDB) and some other 2004 movies. Joseph doesn't seem to have done a movie since 1998 but IMDB is unreliable sometimes. Timothy is 53, there is a picture and he was just in Ike: Countdown to D-Day. Sam will be 50 next year, Joseph is 50 this year. No picture for either of them at IMDB.

There is also a Ben Bottoms, born in 1960. They don't have pictures for these younger brothers. They all four did a movie called Island Sons, a TV movie from 1987.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Jane on July 14, 2004, 12:51:21 PM

Panni, was the school Westlake?

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: td on July 14, 2004, 12:52:08 PM

Thank you all for the kind thoughts, good vibes and thoughtfullness which is a standard set by the posters of HHW.

Mum's surgery went well yesterday.  Not much else to report except that she's still groggy from being put out; she always is.  She should be up on her feet in a day or two in the therapy wing of the hospital - this stay is likely to be one week or less.

Minx is her normal, loveable self.  The seizure was more than likely food oriented, she had a dinner two nights running of something which may have brought on the petit mal.  She has boundless energy for a thirteen and a half year old, and her biological clock is keeping perfect time.

[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]ASK BK QUESTION[/move]
When was the decision made to alter the tracks on Debbie Shapiro Gravitte's album of Mencken songs?
Who made the decision?
Did Laurie Beechman's Andrew Lloyd Webber album have anything to do with the changes on Debbie's cd?
Davis Gaines performs back-up, even duet, voice on a couple of BK-produced cds; why?    Seriously, what was Mr. Gaines like during those recording sessions?  Probably these are my personal faves of his recordings, btw.
Did Davis ask you for any input when he recorded his album, AGAINST THE TIDE?

Oh, the other Bottoms boy was Timothy.  He appaears with brother Sam in THE LAST PICTURE SHOW.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: td on July 14, 2004, 12:54:18 PM

Tim in JOHNNY GOT HIS GUN:
(http://www.meekermuseum.com/dvtimb.jpg)

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Jane on July 14, 2004, 12:57:30 PM

td, good news in deed.   :) :) :)

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: bk on July 14, 2004, 01:03:28 PM

Quote from: td on July 14, 2004, 12:52:08 PM

[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]ASK BK QUESTION[/move]
When was the decision made to alter the tracks on Debbie Shapiro Gravitte's album of Mencken songs?
Who made the decision?
Did Laurie Beechman's Andrew Lloyd Webber album have anything to do with the changes on Debbie's cd?
Davis Gaines performs back-up, even duet, voice on a couple of BK-produced cds; why?    Seriously, what was Mr. Gaines like during those recording sessions?  Probably these are my personal faves of his recordings, btw.
Did Davis ask you for any input when he recorded his album, AGAINST THE TIDE?

If I remember correctly we didn't "alter" the tracks on Debbie's album, we added one track.  Because we'd done so well with Laurie's album, we decided to change the title to The Alan Menken Album.  Unfortunately, as much as I like Mr. Menken and his music, he does not have the same name brand as Mr. Lloyd Webber.

I don't think Davis ever performed backup, but he's on a few of my CDs, doing some duets and some solos.  I enjoyed working with him, but his voice is very specific and I only used him for certain sorts of songs.

Re Fed Ex: It wasn't going to my house, nor do I ever have packages go to my house - I have one of those mail places.  But this particular box was going to Jose's place.  It's turned out to be a bit of a comedy of errors that I won't go into - hopefully the package will be here tomorrow, but we're covering ourselves by buying most of what's in the package today so we have it for tonight.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Stuart on July 14, 2004, 01:11:25 PM

Thank you for your quick responses re: the Bottoms boys.  I suppose I could have checked out IMDB myself, but....well, I didn't.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Matt H. on July 14, 2004, 01:21:36 PM

I thought Joe Bottoms was the livin' end in Disney's sci-fi (non) epic THE BLACK HOLE. For me, he was always the sexiest of the brothers.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Matt H. on July 14, 2004, 01:23:53 PM

This is the first afternoon in many, many months that I didn't watch a DVD. I have that Jack Benny Program DVD cued up, but was busying dubbing some things this afternoon. Hopefully, I'll get to it tonight. Other than RENO 911! there is certainly nothing interesting on television.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Jrand73 on July 14, 2004, 01:27:43 PM

http://www.fedex.com/us/?link=1 (http://www.fedex.com/us/?link=1)

Click here with your shipping number to find out where your FED EX package is.  I would hope it was in California by now.  8)

I liked those boys named Bottom, and I think their father was an actor, too.

Good news from DRtd!  ;D

DRJANE did you find ESTATE SALE on a Cheryl Wheeler cd?  :-\

DRPANNI - loved your Cole Porter house story....wow!  I just wonder what the people on N Orange Avenue would think if they knew the first owner of their home was Allison Hayes - the 50 foot woman?  The people who bought her house in San Clemente had lived across the street when she lived there with her mother.  The owner's wife is in a nursing home down the street, but said that all that she remembered was she was "an actress of some sort, and was very concerned with her diet....."

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: DERBRUCER on July 14, 2004, 01:28:40 PM

Quote from: bk on July 14, 2004, 09:46:52 AM

 Jose had a huge box of music which was supposed to arrive yesterday, which we were hoping to have for last night's rehearsal.  It didn't get there before he left, but when he got home he found some box filled with stationary instead.  OUR box was sitting in Louisville and won't get here until tomorrow.  

AND THEY HAVE FOUND IT!

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(http://www.fedex.com/images/us/about/advertising/printads/us_about_advertising_printads_durable_big.jpg)

There - right next to the Ark

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Sandra on July 14, 2004, 01:32:36 PM

We have just finished taking apart and junking the big ol' smegging desk that I have been keeping in my room for so long for lack of anything better to do with it. This desk was HUGE and now it is reduced to a pile of junk in the alley.

But now I can get my brand old furniture from Grandma's house. I'm almost certain that it won't all fit, but that's half the fun. (The other half is putting the plastic covering on Grandma's green sofa. Don't you just love that?)

Later, we are going to the French bakery at the mall to celebrate Bastille Day.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Jed on July 14, 2004, 01:47:32 PM

Quote from: Jennifer on July 14, 2004, 11:33:05 AM

Btw, has anyone been watching The Amazing Race?
I was NOT happy with the team that got eliminated last night.

I was quite pleased.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Stuart on July 14, 2004, 01:52:27 PM

Quote from: Jed on July 14, 2004, 01:47:32 PM

I was quite pleased.

As was I.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Jrand73 on July 14, 2004, 01:57:52 PM

DRPANNI if it was the house on North Rockingham, you were touching a LOT more than Cole Porter....because none other than Greta Garbo also lived in that house....not at the same time, of course.  ;D

Here is the lovely Allison's house on La Ventana in San Clemente....and the garage where she parked her 1971 Chevrolet Camaro!   ;D

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Jrand73 on July 14, 2004, 01:58:48 PM

And the patio in the back - right on the Pacific - where she probably often lounged and pondered what happened to her career!   ::)

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Ron Pulliam on July 14, 2004, 01:59:51 PM

Quote from: td on July 14, 2004, 12:54:18 PM

Tim in JOHNNY GOT HIS GUN:
(http://www.meekermuseum.com/dvtimb.jpg)

Sorry, td, but that does "not" look like Timothy Bottoms to me, and the photo doesn't appear to be from any movie in particular, but a "fan shot."

Is it Sam?  Joseph?

They're hardly "boys" any longer, sad to say.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Jrand73 on July 14, 2004, 02:00:21 PM

Must have been....Shirley lived at 231 Rockingham....with her dollhouse.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Jrand73 on July 14, 2004, 02:04:02 PM

Boy - RLP, I think it IS Timothy.  Here is a recent photo of Tim when he played GWB on tv.  8)

(http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/2001/Feb/13/image2/islandlife17.jpg)

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on July 14, 2004, 02:04:02 PM

Yesterday I was chatting with one of the editors I work with. She was telling me that she was annoyed at her ex-husband. Their daughter was visiting him and had forgotten her key. The husband (a tarot reader) wouldn't answer the doorbell because he was busy with a client. Said my colleague: "For goodness' sake - the relationship isn't sacroscant." I was going to tell her gently the word is "sacrosanct," not "scant." But I hesitated (I know she's a bit sensitive to criticism), then realized I had waited a little too long. Question: Should I have corrected her, and how?

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Jrand73 on July 14, 2004, 02:05:58 PM

It has been MY experience, that they don't believe you, DiT.   I made someone VERY mad at me when he said something was a "mute" point...and I mentioned he might be thinking of a "moot" point....

Hiroshima, Mon Amour!

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Jrand73 on July 14, 2004, 02:07:16 PM

Another Timothy Bottoms picture.  ;D

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Ron Pulliam on July 14, 2004, 02:14:13 PM

JRand53:  The picture you posted most recently IS Timothy Bottoms...but the facial features are not right in the picture td posted.

Timothy Bottoms has looked the way he does in your recent photo since he debuted in film in "The Last Picture Show."  

Here's art associated with "Johnny Got His Gun":

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Jrand73 on July 14, 2004, 02:17:14 PM

Didn't think it looked like Joseph!  ;D

But now I don't know....all Bottoms look alike after awhile.   :P

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Jay on July 14, 2004, 02:25:03 PM

Quote from: JRand53 on July 14, 2004, 02:17:14 PM

But now I don't know....all Bottoms look alike after awhile.

Where's Dear Reader TCB when he is most desperately needed?

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Ron Pulliam on July 14, 2004, 02:25:41 PM

Here is Joseph in "The Dove":

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Ron Pulliam on July 14, 2004, 02:26:53 PM

To me, the guy in td's photo doesn't look like any Bottoms I know.

But it doesn't mean he's not related.

The cheeks and chin aren't the same as Timothy's, IMO.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Matt H. on July 14, 2004, 02:28:08 PM

I just read that famed cinematographer Carlo Di Palma has died. He did almost a half a dozen Woody Allen features including the deeply saturated color cinematography on BULLETS OVER BROADWAY and the expressionistic camera work on SHADOWS & FOG. He also was his cameraman for HANNAH & HER SISTERS.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Jrand73 on July 14, 2004, 02:31:34 PM

It is a mystery!

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Jrand73 on July 14, 2004, 02:32:14 PM

On my way to the Wednesday evening performance of FATHER OF THE BRIDE!!!

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: bk on July 14, 2004, 02:41:15 PM

Finished writing our opening number.  We'll see if it works later on when we learn it.  Waiting to hear if we have our choreographer problem solved.  

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: elmore3003 on July 14, 2004, 02:52:15 PM

Quote from: JRand53 on July 14, 2004, 02:17:14 PM

Didn't think it looked like Joseph!  ;D

But now I don't know....all Bottoms look alike after awhile.   :P

Except when they sag.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: bk on July 14, 2004, 03:05:47 PM

Speaking of sagging bottoms... Oh, never mind.

It's already three o'clock in my neck of the woods and also in my knee of the woods.  Waiting for calls.  Fighting a headache.  Kicking people's sagging bottoms.  About to fire our publicist.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: PennyO on July 14, 2004, 03:24:04 PM

Howdy, gang!

Bruce, how excellent to have dived off into another first rehearsal! How well I remember the first revue, so many years ago... and how proud I am to have been part of it! Look at us: Here we are at midlife, and we're still doing what we have been doing all our lives, and each first rehearsal of each new project is still the thrill it was when we were back in high school. Yowza, whatta life! I'm so happy for you.

OK - all youse Noo Yawkuz: if you hear of a sublet from mid-September through March, gimme a holler, okay? I certainly prefer upper West Side - 70's, 80's 90's,- but I'd take anything reasonable. Prefer it have a piano, of course.

BK- which songs are you going to sing? So curious!!!

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: bk on July 14, 2004, 03:25:48 PM

Well, I'M not singing anything.  We've got some fun material, including some of mine own.  I'll have a song list here sometime in the next week.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Noel on July 14, 2004, 03:26:25 PM

For those that were wondering, my mother-in-law is now back on our shores after her long ordeal with a country that denied her entry.  In fact, she's now on our couch.  As far as I can tell, she's been watching a Lord of Rings DVD for 24 straight hours.

I haven't asked her about her experiences, because I'm so certain she'll launch into some brain-washed rant about how awful people are in the country she wanted to visit.

My thanks to the DR who posted the link to the article about Junie B. Jones.  If I hadn't seen that I wouldn't have known that the actress playing Junie B. Jones is the same Mary Faber who sang many a Noel Katz song in the 2002 revue, A Time For Heroes and Hoagies.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: PennyO on July 14, 2004, 03:27:10 PM

Oh, btw - I forgot to mention that I'm a choreographer... Bye Bye Birdie two years ago at Longview (great review for the dances), The Boy Friend in Westchester several years ago; and 2 years as Artistic Director of Radost Folk Ensemble (Northwest's premiere ethnic dance ensemble...) Do any of your quintet of actors really DANCE? or do you need dancelike MOVEMENT???

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: PennyO on July 14, 2004, 03:31:05 PM

Oh, Bwuce! Sad to hear we won't get an earful of your so sheine stimme! Maybe Guy H will make a guest appearance, with one of your lovely songs?

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Emily on July 14, 2004, 03:40:34 PM

Allons enfants de la patrie...

:D

In honour of Bastille Day I had a poutine for lunch with one of my French-from-France co-workers.  Then I was sick.

Humid weather and cheese curds clearly don't mix.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Tomovoz on July 14, 2004, 03:56:17 PM

Just noticed on CD related site (HMV) that there is A Scottish group called "Dogs Die In Hot Cars". Their new album "Please Describe Yourself" has excellent reviews! I am so far "out of" pop music these days.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: bk on July 14, 2004, 04:08:40 PM

I think it will be dance movement, although in the What Ifs we will be emulating the choreography of whatever show we're spoofing.  I'm happy to report that we have our choreographers - a team.  The male half will be with us this evening to hear the music to the What Ifs so he can start thinking about the staging of them.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: bk on July 14, 2004, 04:13:41 PM

I've noticed that we have a couple of newly registered GUESTS from the UK.  Welcome newly registered GUESTS from the UK.  We're talkin' about - what ARE we talkin' about?

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Danise on July 14, 2004, 04:25:43 PM

Evening all!  I want to get this up ASAP as I see a couple of our writers are on the board.

I hope you can help me.

You remember I told you that I was asked to do a T-shirt design for the American Heart Walk.   Obviously they would like something with heart theme.  

I have a few ideas in mind but one of them involves using the Tin Man from Oz with a caption such as, “Even a Tin Man needs a heart."

My question being, if I draw a “Tin Man” or use the name “Tin Man” in the caption,  would that be a violation of copyright laws?  I have never had to deal with this type of situation before so I am unsure as to who to even ask to get permission (if it is needed).   I will not be making any money off it.  I would donate the design of whatever I come up just as I did last year.

Many thanks for any help.

Going back to read notes and posts now.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Tomovoz on July 14, 2004, 04:31:05 PM

Surprise! The wonders of HHW. I just has a surprise parcel arrive from DR Danise. Why can't the rest of the world get along as we all do (well - most of the time).
Where else would you find more thoughful and caring people. We Are Family. (almost a Sondheim, Jerry Herman and Nathan Lane reference- Thank you Sister Sledge).

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Charles Pogue on July 14, 2004, 04:37:53 PM

So why are you thinking of sacking your publicist?

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: bk on July 14, 2004, 04:38:45 PM

Well, because he's sort of inept, or at least that's the vibe I'm getting.  Too hard to get on the phone, too.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Ron Pulliam on July 14, 2004, 04:44:18 PM

Quote from: Danise on July 14, 2004, 04:25:43 PM

Evening all!  I want to get this up ASAP as I see a couple of our writers are on the board.

I hope you can help me.

You remember I told you that I was asked to do a T-shirt design for the American Heart Walk.   Obviously they would like something with heart theme.  

I have a few ideas in mind but one of them involves using the Tin Man from Oz with a caption such as, “Even a Tin Man needs a heart."

My question being, if I draw a “Tin Man” or use the name “Tin Man” in the caption,  would that be a violation of copyright laws?  I have never had to deal with this type of situation before so I am unsure as to who to even ask to get permission (if it is needed).   I will not be making any money off it.  I would donate the design of whatever I come up just as I did last year.

Many thanks for any help.

Going back to read notes and posts now.

My gut tells me yes.  You could do worse, though, than Googling L. Frank Baum and looking for whoever controls his Oz characters.  They might grant you permission for the purposes you seek.

Or, you might consider simply doing an illustration of a heart with a clock face, a winder and a chain, and using some phrase like, "Got the time to hear your heart?"

It's only an outside allusion to the heart that the wizard gave to the Tin Man.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Ron Pulliam on July 14, 2004, 04:48:23 PM

Danise:

I found this FAQ passage at www.ozclub.org:

What are the copyright restrictions regarding The Wizard of Oz?
"The copyright in L. Frank Baum's work, The Wonderful Wizard of Oz (later re-titled The Wizard of Oz), expired in 1956. From that point on, the book's original illustrations by W. W. Denslow and the text by L. Frank Baum, were in the Public Domain, and could be used freely by publishers and adapters alike. Derivative works, such as abridgments, adaptations, newly illustrated versions, and dramatic works (such as the MGM version of The Wizard of Oz) produced by arrangement of the copyright holders before 1956, are largely still protected by their individual copyrights. The International Wizard of Oz Club is unable to provide detailed information about later copyrights, but alerts all would-be users that they should verify the status of such copyrights before making use of possibly copyrighted works. The authoritative source for such information are the records of the United States Copyright Office, located at the Library of Congress in Washington, D.C. The records are open to public inspection, although the Copyright Office offers a fee-for-service searching service. Additional information can be obtained from:

U.S. Copyright Office
101 Independence Ave., S.E.
Washington DC 20559-6000

Hours of public service are 8:30 a. m. to 5:00 p. m., Eastern time, Monday through Friday, except legal holidays. During these hours you may telephone the Copyright Office at (202) 707-3000 to speak to one of our copyright information specialists. The U.S. Copyright Office has a very well developed Web site at: http://lcweb.loc.gov/copyright/ "

I take this to mean that if you're doing your own drawing of a tin man, even if it's based on some previous design, you might be all right (surprise! surprise!).  But contact the copyright office to make sure!

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: S. Woody White on July 14, 2004, 04:48:31 PM

Quote from: Jennifer on July 14, 2004, 09:28:09 AM

Am I crazy?  I mean when dividing the tab, don't people normally just say "it will be X dollars each" as opposed to just throwing money on the table.

Thanks.

You're not crazy, you're fair and generous.  Take it as a good thing that you have friends who are also fair and generous, and loving and giving and...

On the flip side, I've been with plenty of tables where, even when everything has been divided up, people will just throw their money on the table.  The real sticking point comes to leaving an appropriate tip.  I know some people who never leave a tip.  I know others who insist on leaving a large tip when the party is large, because of the extra work involved.  Fortunately, I know more of the latter group than the former.  And I try to avoid dining with the formers later.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: S. Woody White on July 14, 2004, 04:50:04 PM

Big rolls of thunder going on my way!  Both porterhouse and crescent.  Marty the superwussdog is hiding at my feet as I type.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: elmore3003 on July 14, 2004, 04:50:51 PM

Quote from: Danise on July 14, 2004, 04:25:43 PM

My question being, if I draw a “Tin Man” or use the name “Tin Man” in the caption,  would that be a violation of copyright laws?  I have never had to deal with this type of situation before so I am unsure as to who to even ask to get permission (if it is needed).   I will not be making any money off it.  I would donate the design of whatever I come up just as I did last year.

DRDanise, I suspect the MGM Jack Haley Tin Man is under copyright protection, but the original Denslow drawings from the first OZ book should not be.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: elmore3003 on July 14, 2004, 04:53:09 PM

And DR RLP seems to have confirmed this.  I should have read down before answering.  

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: S. Woody White on July 14, 2004, 04:53:10 PM

Quote from: bk on July 14, 2004, 09:42:49 AM

Our cast, in no particular order: Tammy Minoff, Susanne Blakeslee, Alet Taylor, Paul Haber and Ryan Raftery.  

I suggest going from top to bottom with the longest name to the shortest.  Followed by line reading "and", in turn followed by a line reading "Jose the Wonder Pianist."

It would be interesting, graphically.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Michael on July 14, 2004, 04:55:29 PM

Ask BK Day:

When you have friends audition for you do you find it difficult to tell them that they didn't have the job?

Does the revue have the male nudity from the other play?

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Michael on July 14, 2004, 04:59:02 PM

Now I did google searches for Paul Haber and came up with several possibilities,

(http://www.umt.edu/polsci/faculty/haber/haber.jpg)

(http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:3dsB5YXXYksJ:http://www.mdsproteomics.com/images1/Haber_Paul_bio.jpg)

(http://www.asvoewien.at/Vorstand/haber2.jpg)

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Jane on July 14, 2004, 05:01:07 PM

JRand, yes I found and listened to, with Keith’s help, ESTATE SALE thank you.  It’s a fun song.

Sandra, enjoy your old furniture and all the memories that go with it. :)

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: S. Woody White on July 14, 2004, 05:03:17 PM

Quote from: DERBRUCER on July 14, 2004, 12:28:21 PM

I stand corrected :)

der Brucer (who is lying when he said he stands, 'cause he's sitting)

Lying, or laying?

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Sandra on July 14, 2004, 05:10:23 PM

Lying! The verb "lay" takes an object. Tell all your friends. It really bugs me when people mess that up.

End of mini-rant.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Danise on July 14, 2004, 05:12:45 PM

Wow, RLP, the clock is  a GREAT idea!  I think I could draw that and with no copyright problem.   Would you mind if I use it?  I still have my other ideas but I like to do a few and then ask people which design they like the best.  

DR Tom, I just hope you start feeling better sooner than soon.

TD, I am very glad to hear your news!  Hoo and Ray!

I think I did a naughty today.  I was asked if I was going stay in the hospital for a few days or going home right away so the people at work would know where to send some flowers.  I said I would much rather have them spend the money on a party or a toaster for the group so we could have toasted bagels or some such.  I love flowers but they seem such a waste!

I think I hurt their feelings.  I didn't mean to.  Was I bad?

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on July 14, 2004, 05:17:25 PM

Quote from: Sandra on July 14, 2004, 05:10:23 PM

Lying! The verb "lay" takes an object. Tell all your friends. It really bugs me when people mess that up.

When director George Abbott took ill on the golf course - I believe he was older than 100 at the time - his concerned wife asked, "Do you want to lay down?" "Lie down," he corrected her.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: S. Woody White on July 14, 2004, 05:20:56 PM

Quote from: Danise on July 14, 2004, 05:12:45 PM

I think I did a naughty today.  I was asked if I was going stay in the hospital for a few days or going home right away so the people at work would know where to send some flowers.  I said I would much rather have them spend the money on a party or a toaster for the group so we could have toasted bagels or some such.  I love flowers but they seem such a waste!

I think I hurt their feelings.  I didn't mean to.  Was I bad?

No, you were honest.  And it's nice to know you care about everyone else at times like this.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Michael on July 14, 2004, 05:24:17 PM

Who were/are The Talisman Quartet that performed on A Broadway Christmas?

When a label does the best of......(fill in the blank) do they have to pay the singers again even though it is previously released material.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on July 14, 2004, 05:25:21 PM

DRNoel'sM-i-L:

Glad you're back safely. Welcome home.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: S. Woody White on July 14, 2004, 05:27:22 PM

I've got to get dinner going.  I called der B from work, asking him to brine the pork chops in salted apple cider, and he seems to have had trouble doing that.  How much trouble... ::)

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: bk on July 14, 2004, 05:29:27 PM

Those aren't our Paul Haber.

No male nudity.

I don't usually have friends audition for me.  If I have a friend who's a performer I know what they can do and I either cast them or not.  That's how I've done all my albums.  With new people, they audition or sing and then I use them or not.  If I use them, they never have to audition again.  If I were doing a musical play or a play and I wasn't sure about something, then they'd have to come in, but I'm a pretty good judge of what people can and can't do.

Off to rehearsal.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Danise on July 14, 2004, 05:39:46 PM

Thanks, SWW.  

I meant to say--about putting my make up on while on the bus.  You have to remember that I ride an express bus that is mainly working people.  I can't count the number of times other ladies who aren't even running late put their make up on.  Or the guys who shave, yes, shave with a  battery powered razor while on the bus.  

We all know one another pretty well so it always causes some good natured  ribbing about who had a  late night.  

My idea of “putting on make-up” consists of a little cover up and power for my nose.  Since I wear contacts, I rarely put any kind of eye make up on.  

Jane, you said I was very detailed about my dream.  I can honestly say that was nothing.  When I dream it is in full color, all sound effects and often a musical score (sometimes with words and music)  to it.  I thought everyone does that.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: elmore3003 on July 14, 2004, 05:40:21 PM

Quote from: Michael Shayne on July 14, 2004, 05:24:17 PM

Who were/are The Talisman Quartet that performed on A Broadway Christmas?

When a label does the best of......(fill in the blank) do they have to pay the singers again even though it is previously released material.

And the orchestrator wasn't repaid either!

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Jane on July 14, 2004, 05:54:19 PM

Quote from: Danise on July 14, 2004, 05:12:45 PM

I think I did a naughty today.  I was asked if I was going stay in the hospital for a few days or going home right away so the people at work would know where to send some flowers.  I said I would much rather have them spend the money on a party or a toaster for the group so we could have toasted bagels or some such.  I love flowers but they seem such a waste!

Danise that was very sweet of you to think of everyone at work, however,
FLOWERS ARE NOT A WASTE.  

One day I was at the check out line at the market and discovered I didn’t have enough money to cover the bill.  I left the flowers and removed a food item I could do without.  To my surprise I received comments all around me on that-very positive comments.  That day I needed the flowers more than the food and I wasn’t going to go hungry.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: PennyO on July 14, 2004, 05:55:50 PM

Jane, that is so YOU!

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: PennyO on July 14, 2004, 05:57:42 PM

Danise, it's very good to allow others to be as kind as you habitually are. When someone wants to do something nice for you, they will get the same pleasure out of it that you get in commission of your many kindnesses. Sometimes, graceful appreciation is the real gift...

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Jane on July 14, 2004, 05:57:49 PM

Danise, you raise an interesting question.  Does anyone else dream with such sound effects?  I know I don't, color yes, but not sound.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Panni on July 14, 2004, 06:03:21 PM

Jane - The school was Stephen S. Wise.

Now... A BOTTOMS STORY

I think I've lived too long. There's nothing about which I don't have a story. But the Bottoms one is good.
Years ago, in my other life, when I was living in LA as Sadie, Sadie, Married Lady, my husband and I went to a party at the home of the Canadian Consul - a lovely estate in Hancock Park, a tony section of LA.
It was an outdoor party held around the pool. In those days, the way the grounds were landscaped, there was no demarcation between the pool and the grassy area. You walked along and suddenly there was pool. (This has since been remedied, in part because of the incident I’m about to relate.) So the party was in full swing, crowded, noisy. My husband spotted someone from Canada whom he hadn’t seen for ages. Drink in hand, he waved and started over – and stepped right into the pool – the deep end. By instinct, he grabbed the only thing handy – the wine glass he was holding – shattering it into a bloody pulp as he sank. Everyone ran over as he surfaced. The nearest person to him was the late Al Waxman. When someone shouted, “Help him out, Al!”…Al replied, “But I have a new suit on.” (And Al knew both my husband and moi quite well. In fact, a drama that my husband produced had won Al the Canadian Emmy. Actors are an ungrateful lot.) So…who came to his rescue? One of the Bottoms boys! I’m afraid I don’t remember which one. He not only helped him out of the pool, but he went with him to a room in the house and waited with him for around 40 minutes while one of the maids loaned him HER track suit and dried his things. And he bandaged his hand. A very sweet man, Mr. Bottoms. I think his wife was a real estate agent, that’s all I recall. (My then very young Dear Daughter, BTW, brought tours of kids around to the room to see "Dad in ladies' clothes"....)
The End of my Bottoms story – except for the fact that the “incident” made the Globe and Mail (Canada’s national newspaper) making my husband sound like a drunken lout.  

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: PennyO on July 14, 2004, 06:04:03 PM

Hey, Jane: did you figure out a way to get Echo to eat her pills???

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Danise on July 14, 2004, 06:05:39 PM

Quote from: PennyO on July 14, 2004, 05:57:42 PM

Danise, it's very good to allow others to be as kind as you habitually are. When someone wants to do something nice for you, they will get the same pleasure out of it that you get in commission of your many kindnesses. Sometimes, graceful appreciation is the real gift...

I think you have a point there, Penny.  I just hate the thought of people spending their hard earned money on one when it could do so many good.

Humm, I think my Star Trek background is showing.  "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.  Or the One?"   ;D  See TV/Movies CAN have an effect on people!

Jane, no sound?  Do you have your volume turned up?   :D

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Michael on July 14, 2004, 06:08:15 PM

Is The Korngold Quartet who played on the Classical Broadway (Charles Strouse String Quartet #1) a studio group or are they or were they an actual quartet that performed in public.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: PennyO on July 14, 2004, 06:08:50 PM

BTW - I do frequently dream with musical underscoring. And I hear voices, I think, when people talk to me; dogs barking; things like that. Sometimes, I hear my entrance music, and can't for the life of me remember what I'm supposed to be singing - I think that's a common actors' nightmare...

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Ron Pulliam on July 14, 2004, 06:09:16 PM

Quote from: Danise on July 14, 2004, 05:12:45 PM

Wow, RLP, the clock is  a GREAT idea!  I think I could draw that and with no copyright problem.   Would you mind if I use it?  I still have my other ideas but I like to do a few and then ask people which design they like the best.  

With my compliments.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on July 14, 2004, 06:16:12 PM

My neighbor just returned from Halifax, and she brought us two extremely fresh lobsters. We sometimes look after her dog, and she's always very appreciative.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Jane on July 14, 2004, 06:20:47 PM

Quote from: PennyO on July 14, 2004, 06:04:03 PM

Hey, Jane: did you figure out a way to get Echo to eat her pills???

Yes.  Keith has reduced her pills to three in the morning and three at night-after meals.  One by one I shove them down her throat, all the while petting her and making a big fuss over her and telling her what a good girl she is.  In-between each pill I give her a chicken & rice, or lamb & rice stick Nutro Max treat.  She is very good about it now and enjoys the attention and the treats.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Danise on July 14, 2004, 06:26:48 PM

Thank you RLP and goodnight all!  

Err--BTW Jane, I use those little cans of Vienna Sausage to give B & B their pills.  Just put a pill in the sausage and down they go!  No fuss, no muss.  Pill?  What pill?

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Emily on July 14, 2004, 06:36:07 PM

One of my sister's boyfriend's best friends (how's THAT for a convoluted relationship) is Acadian and everytime one or more of his family members come West to Montreal to see him they bring literaly dozens of pounds of live lobster with them.

The only problem?  He doesn't really like lobster, so he thanks them and then shovels them off to his friends (and their girlfriend's mooch-y sisters) to make a lobster boil...

How many times can you say that you've eaten THREE 1 3/4 pound lobsters in a sitting? :)

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Emily on July 14, 2004, 06:37:06 PM

Oh and in case you were wondering, they sell fresh fish for a living, so they have a large refrigerator trailer and lots of ice :)

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Jane on July 14, 2004, 06:50:54 PM

I tried posting while Danise and Penny were still on but lost my satellite connection.  I hate when that happens in the middle of a post.  Unfortunately it happens far too often. >:(

Panni, Stephen S. Weiss, my aunt and uncle’s temple.

I for one am glad you have so many wonderful stories.

Penny I expected you would dream with sound.

Danise, my dreams don’t need sound.  They are emotional enough just as they are thank you.
The Vienna sausage trick doesn’t work anymore.  This is one smart dog we are dealing with.  Remember, she found my cell phone in the fields, on command.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Emily on July 14, 2004, 06:58:26 PM

Jane... you're dog understands "ECHO - FIND MUMMY'S CELL PHONE"!?!

wowzers :)

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Jane on July 14, 2004, 07:00:35 PM

She understand "PICK UP".  All by herself she figured out what to pick up.  The phone was also back about 8 minutes from where we were at the time I gave her the command.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Jane on July 14, 2004, 07:02:42 PM

Emily, is Mummy Canadian like it is English?  That is what I called my mother when I was young.  Once in awhile my older son calls me that.  More often he address my cards that way. :)

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Emily on July 14, 2004, 07:09:20 PM

I know I say "mummy" (or rather "mum")... but then again I can hardly be taken as a barometer of Canadian speech.

I mean... I also have been known to say "valise" instead of "suitcase", "chip" instead of "fries" (don't ask me where that one came from) and "RAD(like "cad")-iator" instead of "RAID-iator" for "radiator".

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: td on July 14, 2004, 07:13:40 PM

Quote from: RLP on July 14, 2004, 02:26:53 PM

To me, the guy in td's photo doesn't look like any Bottoms I know.

But it doesn't mean he's not related.

The cheeks and chin aren't the same as Timothy's, IMO.

Oh, it's Tim alright - the one with the beard.
The other one is Diane Varsi.
Tim still has his baby fat.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Jane on July 14, 2004, 07:14:49 PM

Emily, very charming. :)

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Tomovoz on July 14, 2004, 07:25:18 PM

Emily and Jane; Mum and Mummy are the usual Australian terms. Not Mom here.

Chips is the usual here except in the McD and KFC world. Fish and chips.  Not Fish and fries.

(In Kiwi land that would be Fush and chups)

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Jane on July 14, 2004, 07:29:53 PM

Tomovoz are you feeling better?

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Michael on July 14, 2004, 07:36:27 PM

Quote from: td on July 14, 2004, 07:13:40 PM

Oh, it's Tim alright - the one with the beard.
The other one is Diane Varsi.
Tim still has his baby fat.

What all the talk about Bottoms? Next we will be talking about Tops! As a matter of fact I am going to post a picture of my favorite top!

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Michael on July 14, 2004, 07:37:01 PM

Here it is

(http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:jgqycKXWPYEJ:marblealan.com/supplies/top.jpg)

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Jane on July 14, 2004, 07:38:47 PM

Speaking of tops, I was just stung by a yellow jacket.  It was just a little sting and I put ice on it.  

We are going to watch a DVD now.

Goodnight.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Tomovoz on July 14, 2004, 07:41:45 PM

Just staying indoors thanks Jane. Much the same. Had my flu shot as usual this year so I don't think this will develop into anything really nasty. Hope it is only a 48 hour or so bug.

My favourite Bottoms film is "Love and Pain & The Whole Damn Thing". Maggie Smith is of course Tops.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Matt H. on July 14, 2004, 08:29:28 PM

Emmy nominations are tomorrow morning, 8:30 EDT. The Emmys are the most irritating and confounding awards that are given, and yet I'm still fascinated by them, who gets chosesn and who gets omitted. Looking forward to the nomination announcements.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Matt H. on July 14, 2004, 08:36:55 PM

I really enjoyed two episodes of the Jack Benny Program tonight on DVD. Jack was such a master of comic timing. That posture, those looks, the mannerisms: all honed to a perfection that's almost unthinkable now.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Panni on July 14, 2004, 08:50:46 PM

Is anyone else having trouble logging on through AOL tonight? I'm getting all sorts of strange "messages" about pixels and missing links and things...

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: George on July 14, 2004, 09:08:07 PM

Sorry, can't help.  I don't have AOL.

Quote from: Emily on July 14, 2004, 07:09:20 PM

I know I say "mummy" (or rather "mum")... but then again I can hardly be taken as a barometer of Canadian speech.

I mean... I also have been known to say "valise" instead of "suitcase", "chip" instead of "fries" (don't ask me where that one came from) and "RAD(like "cad")-iator" instead of "RAID-iator" for "radiator".

On last night's "Last Comic Standing," Jay Mohr told a joke and said "RAD (like "cad")-iator,"  also!

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: George on July 14, 2004, 09:08:30 PM

Don't ask me what the joke was.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Jrand73 on July 14, 2004, 10:07:49 PM

Well...I am glad we got to the bottom of the Bottoms controversy.  Diane Varsi!  I kept looking, she was so familiar....and yet.

DR PANNI you certainly go to some INTERESTING parties....the most exciting thing about a swimming pool at a party I remember is when I was at a cast party at a nice house in North Indy....looked out the sliding glass doors and saw two possums running around the pool.  Hmmmmm....only in Indiana.  And in that case, I think that made it a CEE-MENT pond.

Welcome back to Noel's MiL & DR JOY's M.

Hmmmmmmmm.....I think I need to make Jane a CD of special listening music.  

Oh yes I think DRJOSE should receive credit on a special line or even in a BOX!

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: bk on July 14, 2004, 10:10:30 PM

Michael Shayne: The Korngold Quartet was a real quartet - don't know if they're still together, though.

Back from rehearsal but must go eat something.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Jrand73 on July 14, 2004, 10:13:27 PM

DRMATTH - Jack Benny was THE MASTER.  I have been laughing at his comedy for my ENTIRE life.  I have told these before BUT:

In one sketch, he was pushing his cart through the grocery store and passed a card table holding a cake.  There were some slices on plates.  A sign on the table said "Free."  Jack took a slice of cake, went around the aisle and then put the cake in his cart.  He went around the aisle again, then he picked up all the plates and silverware and put them in his cart.  He did his look around, whipped off the tablecloth and folded it and put it in his cart.  One more time around the aisle, then he folded up the card table and took it, too!  LOL.....

AND MY BIGGEST JACK BENNY LIFE - I think it was The Steve Allen Show sometime in the late 50's.  Steve stood there beside a large armchair that was turned away from the audience.  He intoned solemnly: "Ladies and gentlemen, tonight we will reveal at last the identity of John Beresford Tipton, the man who gives away one million dollars tax free each week to a deserving person."  Steve turned the chair around, and, yes there was Jack Benny!

He didn't say a word....he just did his hand gestures, and facial tics...and the audiences in the studio and at home laughed long and hard....and more than 40 years later - I still laugh!

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Jrand73 on July 14, 2004, 10:23:21 PM

LOL...and then there is the story of the woman in Indianapolis who saw Jack Benny perform at Starlight Musicals and wrote him a fan letter telling him how funny he was and inviting him to dinner at her home.

The next summer....when he was back at Starlight....there was knock on her front door.  Benny was there for dinner.   ;D

She screamed and said, come back tomorrow night and it will be ready!  And he did!  ;D

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Jrand73 on July 14, 2004, 10:24:09 PM

Oh, I got applause on my egress again!

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Panni on July 14, 2004, 10:32:48 PM

Quote from: JRand53 on July 14, 2004, 10:24:09 PM

Oh, I got applause on my egress again!

I would applaud your egress anytime, DR JRand.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Jrand73 on July 14, 2004, 10:54:49 PM

Thanks, DRPANNI!  ;D

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Jrand73 on July 14, 2004, 10:55:38 PM

Nytol.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Panni on July 14, 2004, 11:46:35 PM

No posts in an hour. You'd think it was midnight or something.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: bk on July 14, 2004, 11:59:01 PM

Jack Benny - my all-time favorite comedian ever.  Notes up in a mere minute.

Title: Re:THE FIRST REHEARSAL
Post by: Jay on July 14, 2004, 11:59:29 PM

It's Outfest season in L.A. Dear Readers.  I just returned from an Outfest screening, held at the John Anson Ford Amphitheatre, an outdoor venue.  The film was Mr. Baz Luhurmann's Moulin Rouge.  Actually, this event was programmed as a sing-along Moulin Rouge.  It was more like a sing-along/recite lines with actors/talk at the screen Moulin Rouge.  With about a thousand people of the gay persuasion (mostly men) in the audience, it was an interesting--and fun evening.