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Title: THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: bk on May 26, 2004, 12:00:36 AM
Well, you've read the notes, you've empathized with me about the horrid sandwich (if you new people haven't read the notes, do so by clicking on BK's Notes up to - you really won't be with it and hip and in and happening and cool, man, cool, unless you read the notes first), and now you are ready to post until the cows come home.  Moo.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Panni on May 26, 2004, 12:11:27 AM
My question for bk: Why would you eat a stinky sandwich? IMHO stinky sandwiches - even if they cost $7 - should not be eaten. And BTW - if you went back to Von's and told them the sandwich was stinky - they'd give you a refund. I've only recently started to shop there and they're sickeningly friendly and cooperative.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: JoseSPiano on May 26, 2004, 12:19:19 AM
Good Morning!

-Hmm... Wasn't it just "evening"? ;)

BK:

So, tell us what you really thought of the sandwich?  :-X

-Actually... Just what made the sandwich taste bad?  Did the fillings taste bad?  Did they taste "off"?  Was the avocado just a bit too mushy? (texture is always important)  Was the turkey in the form of freshly sliced turkey breast, or was it one of those "pressed together" deals?  Did the combination of the turkey and avocado just not taste good together?  Do you think the bacon would have made it taste any better?  Oh, and what beverage did you choose to accompany said "horrid sandwich"?

-Do you drink tea?  Hot or iced?  Lipton? English Breakfast?  Earl Grey?  Green?  Herbal?  Roobios?  "Bubble" Tea?  Etc., etc., etc.??

*There are a few "tea sodas" out there right now.  I really like "Cricket Cola" (both in the regular and the diet), and some of the "STeaP" flavors are pretty good too.

-If you find yourself wide awake at an unseemly hour of the night, do you have a sure-fire, guaranteed way to help you fall asleep?  -Is there a particular book, movie, record, etc.?

-Well, since the "Goldberg Variations" were written for an insomniac.... Hmmm...  -Although the last time I tried "them", I ended being so enthralled by the piano playing... When I heard the Aria being repeated (after the quodlibet)... Ah, well...

Tylenol PM anyone?  :-\

OH.... Maybe now would be a good time to try Bookworm.....

-Must resist... MUST resist... Bookworm very bad... Must resist...Bad Bookworm...


Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: bk on May 26, 2004, 12:19:19 AM
As I said, I didn't feel like going out again and it's all I had in the house, save for some popcorn (which I ate whilst watching Moulin Rouge).  No more wire sandwiches ever.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: JoseSPiano on May 26, 2004, 12:22:30 AM
As I said, I didn't feel like going out again and it's all I had in the house, save for some popcorn (which I ate whilst watching Moulin Rouge).  No more wire sandwiches ever.

Well, if you were at Von's, couldn't you have picked up a few other foodstuffs?

 ::)
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: bk on May 26, 2004, 12:32:36 AM
I could have, but I had this humungous sandwich in my hands and I thought, at the time, that it would be yummilicious and that I wouldn't need anything else.  Besides, I was on foot and didn't want to carry too much.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Tomovoz on May 26, 2004, 12:48:33 AM
I watched "Moulin Rouge" a few months back. Enjoyed it much more than new version. The colours and sound were wonderful - main problem was the "stilted" dialogue from Mr Ferrer who sounded as though he was making speeches.

DRs Panni, Beekay Jay & Jane. (hope I got that right!), we watched "Trembling Before God" last night. Certainly food for thought (not necessarily kosher either). I felt so much for those people. I find it incomprehensible that any Religion would "speak for God" and put themselves "above God" in casting judgement on others.  Thank God I'm not a member of any religious organisation. I think it is often the case that organised religion corrupts the purity in love of God.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: JoseSPiano on May 26, 2004, 12:49:07 AM

-Must resist... MUST resist... Bookworm very bad... Must resist...Bad Bookworm...




Whew!  I resisted... However, Food TV and "Iron Chef" is a different story... "The Porcini Battle".  -And some great antics from the challenger.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Ann on May 26, 2004, 12:53:58 AM
I have been bad about posting the last few days...I am sorry.  It's been kinda crazy in my life lately.  I'll post more on the TOTD later, just wanted to do a quick post now before bed.

Sandra -  I am not worthy... Your scores put my pitiful ones to shame...
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: JoseSPiano on May 26, 2004, 01:00:17 AM
And the winner is...

"Challenger Marco Molinari"

Hmmm... and now he just tossed some flour onto his cheering section... And it was a very close vote with three of the judges voting for the Challenger, with a surprise vote for Morimoto-san from the guest Italian judge...

OK.... yeah, I think I need to get some sleep now...

 :P

Good Morning... Good Day... Good Night...
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Panni on May 26, 2004, 01:06:59 AM
I should be in bed, too. But I'm wired -- like Jose. Is it contagious, Jose?
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Panni on May 26, 2004, 01:08:33 AM
Tom - I totally agree about your views on intolerence in religion. Shameful. Skammen.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: BEEKAY on May 26, 2004, 05:50:09 AM
I watched "Moulin Rouge" a few months back. Enjoyed it much more than new version. The colours and sound were wonderful - main problem was the "stilted" dialogue from Mr Ferrer who sounded as though he was making speeches.

DRs Panni, Beekay Jay & Jane. (hope I got that right!), we watched "Trembling Before God" last night. Certainly food for thought (not necessarily kosher either). I felt so much for those people. I find it incomprehensible that any Religion would "speak for God" and put themselves "above God" in casting judgement on others.  Thank God I'm not a member of any religious organisation. I think it is often the case that organised religion corrupts the purity in love of God.

TomofOZ you have hit the nail on the head...I was moved by the dilemma of the Orthodox Jews as it  is the same with the fundamentalist Christian churches, particularly the so called Spirit Filled churches that hounded more beautiful people out of the church than inviting them in. The final comment in the program made the most sense.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Jrand73 on May 26, 2004, 06:03:01 AM
Lalalalala.

Wednesday - and my sandwich was fine.  But I made it myself, so I knew to avoid anything questionable.

How shocking to be walking along the street swinging a sandwich thinking all is right with the world....and then to be shattered when said sandwich is on one's table at home.  Shocking!!

My question for ask BK day - do you have a webcam?  Do you ever use it?

And I will say - I am from Indiana and have never been featured on an original Broadway cast album - but even I know that MOST cast albums are recorded in one day.  I have known it since reading the backs of cast albums MANY years ago that say such things as:  "Recorded April 28, 1963, in New York City."  (SHE LOVES ME).
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Jason on May 26, 2004, 06:51:51 AM
Good morning all. What a day it has already been! In order to be at work on time, I must leave my apartment no later than 8:15 in the a.m. Well, Dear Readers, wouldn't you know that I hit a wrong button on my alarm clock and turned the thing off instead of snooze and I woke up at 8:17 in the a.m!! Somehow I managed to still make it here at 9:00 on the dot (not Dippin' Dots, mind you), but I'm not lying when I tell you that I still have pillow creases on the side of my face. I never have pillow creases unless I'm running horribly late. And now it's gross and rainy outside. It's actually sort of chilly, even, and I didn't wear a jacket OR bring an umbrella with me, so I'm kind of in a bind. Oh, well...perhaps it will dry up before 5:00.

Some of my friends here at work are telling a story about watching a young woman steal a cab outside the Ed Sullivan (David Letterman Show) Theatre as they were walking to work this morning. Three of them managed to see this going on. I'm told the young lady was (unconvincingly) shouting "thief! thief!" as if the cabbie had stolen her purse, and then she ran down the street, hopped in his cab and drove off down 53rd Street! Oh, if only Danise had seen that, she'd have a whole other opinion of the Big Apple. :-) Only in New York...

Here's a question for BK and any other DR who might like to answer: Have you ever witnessed a crime? [I witnessed a crime once--it was called BIG: THE MUSICAL. Remember, there's no groaning allowed here at HHW.com.]  Have you ever perpetrated a crime? The third part to my three-part question about crime: If you could commit any crime with no fear of repercussions, what crime would you commit?
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Jrand73 on May 26, 2004, 07:05:38 AM
Ah DRJASON, once many years ago, when I was working at a small family owned department store in a local mall, I was out front on the sidewalk watering the flats of plants...it was spring....when from down the sidewalk I heard the owner of Flower Shop yellL  "Stop thief...stop him!"

A man was running toward me with a handful of cash in his hand.  I didn't know if he had a gun or anything, but I turned the water hose on him and slowed him down a bit....he got away, but they found him a few minutes later, soaking wet, behind the mall.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: William E. Lurie on May 26, 2004, 07:09:37 AM
I saw ASSASSINS last night.  As Frank says of MY FAIR LADY in MERRILY WE ROLL ALONG, "I sort of enjoyed it".  It comes off better on stage than on CD (and I have heard both the Off-Broadway and Chicago versions).  I did not expect it to be so funny.  As I'd heard, it is really more of a revue than a book musical, but everything is connected.  The score may not be Sondheim's best, but it is probably his most versitile since FOLLIES.  The cast is uniformly excellent (even Mario Cantone who I have never liked in anything I have seen him in).  And how unusual it was to see Marc Kudisch bald and Michael Cerveris with hair!  I do not think the audience enjoyed it that much.  There was no standing ovation in this day and age when almost every show on Broadway gets one, deserved or not.  On a negative note, I do not enjoy seeing a Broadway musical from a wooden chair squeezed around a tiny table with everyone so tightly packed in that in case of fire it would be a calamity.  I realize that this is a holdover at Studio 54 from CABARET, but it was totally wrong for ASSASSINS.  I have heard that regular theatre seats will be installed for PACIFIC OVERTURES, but it should have been done in time for ASSASSINS.  

This leads me to my Ask Dear Readers question (for Dear Readers over a certain age).  The one new song in ASSASSINS (added initially in London) is "Something Just Broke" with the Ensemble remembering where they were when they heard of the Kennedy Assassination.  Where were you when you heard the news.  I'll start: I was working nights at the time stage managing a revue that played two shows a night, so I was sleeping until at least noon.  When I got up I turned on the television and there was a photo of President Kennedy.  My first thought was "shit - there go the soaps and game shows" but then I noticed the dates under the picture and realized he was dead.  Of course the owner of the hotel where the revue was playing insisted we do the early show that night (to a very small audience) but the late show was called off when nobody showed up.  We did play Saturday and Sunday, and were probably the only show in Chicago that did.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Jennifer on May 26, 2004, 07:15:23 AM
Re: last night's American Idol

I found the show very bizarre.  It was obvious that the judges favored Fantasia.  Yet they completely nailed her on her first song.  I mean they were brutal, which totally shocked me.  They do have influence on the voting public.  And knowing how much they want Fantasia to win I was shocked at how negative they were about her first song.

Yet they heaped tremendous praise on Diana's first song (I didn't particularly like either first song).

Then came song 2 and they said Diana was very good. But they said Fantasia was amazing.

Then song 3 and they said Diana was horrible (which surprised me a bit, since last week when she sang the same song they said it was the best thing they ever heard).  

The judges were brutal towards Diana, yet after Fantasia sang song 3 they said she was the American Idol (Simon also said that of the 70 Idol winners around the world, she was the best).

It was just extremely bizarre to me.  Letting them sing songs they'd already sang was not a good idea to me.

And seeing the judges criticize Fantasia so harshly for song one surprised me.  And seeing them love Diana's first song so much surprised me.  But wow, they were so mean to Diana at the end!  I felt so bad for Diana that they all said how much they wanted Fantasia to win.  I'm not sure how I feel about that.  I think they should be allowed to say what they think.  But it is supposed to be America's choice.  And to me they basically brainwashed America into making Fantasia the winner.

Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Matt H. on May 26, 2004, 07:31:05 AM
AMERICAN IDOL was very anticlimactic for me last night. Singing songs they had already performed was ridiculous, and honestly their initial renditions of those songs in previous weeks were WORLDS better than their performances last night.

Praising Fantasia is one thing, but the judges' crowning her the idol made me rather ill (and I'm from Fantasia's home state and have liked her generally.) However, they all but did the same with Ruben last year, too, so I have to say I'll only be tuning in to the last ten minutes of the show tonight. Or maybe not at all. I can read about it on the internet.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Matt H. on May 26, 2004, 07:33:51 AM
I was home from school the day President Kennedy was assassinated. The TV was on, and my mom was in the kitchen and asked, "What's all that noise on TV?" I wasn't really watching but caught just a bit of what the commentators had said and replied,. "Oh, it's something about someone taking a shot at President Kennedy." I didn't stay in the room, but my mom came into the den to see, and a few minutes later, I could hear her crying. I'll NEVER forget that day.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Matt H. on May 26, 2004, 07:36:05 AM
Just back from the dentist for my semiannual check-up and cleaning. I always breathe a sigh of relief when that little chore is over.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Jennifer on May 26, 2004, 07:43:00 AM
Praising Fantasia is one thing, but the judges' crowning her the idol made me rather ill (and I'm from Fantasia's home state and have liked her generally.) However, they all but did the same with Ruben last year, too, so I have to say I'll only be tuning in to the last ten minutes of the show tonight. Or maybe not at all. I can read about it on the internet.

I know they preferred Ruben last year.  But I don't think they went to the same extremes (although seeing as though Ruben is a mediocre success & Clay is a big star makes me wonder).

DR MattH, I do agree that having the judges go on and on about Fantasia last night did not sit well with me either (I wonder if the public will try to go against their wishes).  But I really do believe that they just feel that Fantasia is a far better talent.  IT's just the way they did it that was iffy for me.

Were you surprised at how negative they were towards Fantasia for Song 1?
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Jrand73 on May 26, 2004, 07:52:30 AM
I have seen one production of ASSASSINS and didn't like it - or the CD, but that's just me.

Thanks for the  info WEL!

Hmmmmmmm....it was a very strange day that Friday.  I was in the 8th grade.  When we came back from lunch, my history teacher said we were going to have a study hall and he was in and out of the room.  My next class was English, and the young lady teacher we had was not in the room when the bell rang.  We were astonished because this had NEVER happened.  She came in briefly and told us to read some pages then left again.  She came back again and had been crying, then left.  We went to our last class of the day....mine was science.  My teacher Mr. Alexander was just sitting at his desk and didn't say anything.

Finally one girl spoke up....her name was Karla Doty...she had a transistor radio and had been listening at lunch time.  She said:  "Somebody said the President has been shot....is that true?"

Mr Alexander didn't say a word, he just shook his head and we all started talking among ourselves, then the principal came on the intercom system and said:  "It is my sad duty to tell you that President Kennedy was shot and killed in Dallas today.  Vice President Lyndon Johnson will take the oath of office on his airplane returning to Washington DC.  School is dismissed.  Walkers can leave, and riders please board your busses."

We went out and got onto our bus, but it didn't leave for the longest time.  And of course when we got home we started watching television.  Our basketball game was cancelled.  

Just three weeks before, during a performance of Holiday on Ice at the Indianapolis Fairgrounds Coliseum, there had been an explosion that had killed 74 people.  It was a terrible tragedy, and everyone knew someone or of someone who had been there that night.  My aunt and uncle had had tickets to go, but didn't because my uncle worked late....saved their lives.  

So we were just getting over dealing with that "can't understand" event when we were hit with this.  I still remember the feelings.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Jason on May 26, 2004, 08:08:26 AM
I can't contribute to the Kennedy discussion because I wasn't born until well after his assassination. I suppose my generation's equivalent would be the explosion of the Space Shuttle Discovery. I remember exactly where I was when it happened--the lunchroom of my elementary school. We were watching it live because of the historical importance of Ms. Christa McCauliff going to space, so we saw the explosion as it happened. None of us knew what happened, but we all knew it wasn't good. I think I was too young to understand how terrible it really was, but for something that I thought didn't make much difference to my life, I think it says something that I can still remember Ms. McCauliff's name.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Emily on May 26, 2004, 08:08:44 AM
The Crime I Witnessed:

When I was in Secondary III (Grade 9) I was getting on a bus at the Villa Maria metro station when this guy walked on just after me and started yelling at the bus driver.  It was only mildly unusual for public transportation.  

Well... that is until Mr. Angry-Pants took out a knife and stabbed the bus driver in the leg...

Needless to say, chaos ensued (and I was several hours late after having to give my account of what happened to the police)
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: S. Woody White on May 26, 2004, 08:11:36 AM
This leads me to my Ask Dear Readers question (for Dear Readers over a certain age).  The one new song in ASSASSINS (added initially in London) is "Something Just Broke" with the Ensemble remembering where they were when they heard of the Kennedy Assassination.  Where were you when you heard the news.
I was still in elementary school at the time, fifth grade.  My parents were away in San Francisco, attending a convention, with my father's parents taking care of us that week.  The school principal went from class to class, giving us the news.  And from that point on, for several days, everything was very quiet.  Recess was subdued.  The other parents in the neighborhood didn't want their kids playing in the street.  The weather was the same as always, but the sounds of people were muted.

Mom and Dad were finally able to get home, a couple of days later.  Up until the assassination, they'd been having a wonderful time, a rare vacation.  But the convention still had business to take care of, so they hadn't been able to leave until their already-scheduled flight.  The only other memory of that trip, for them, was that Mom's feet slid out from underneath her at one point, and she'd ended up flat on her behind in the gutter.  She loved telling that story, emphasizing that she hadn't had a drop to drink, of course.

But she never connected the story with the world events when she told it.  Not once.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: PennyO on May 26, 2004, 08:24:47 AM
I was in junior high, Louis Pasteur, ninth grade pin and camera day. We were on the playground, taking pictures of each other for the yearbook (I was in one of those "off" semesters, graduated in February), when the principal announced Kennedy had been shot in Texas. Just numbness. I sort of "went away" for days. I don't even remember the live stuff on TV, except that I have seen it while conscious in the years since. No emotion. I just sort of went away.

Crimes: well, I have felt the urge to murder - even thought up good ways to do it and "not get caught." But I always told several people how I'd do it, to derail my insanity. Ah, but shoplifting - to my shame, I did this crime, and nothing I can do to erase the past. I even remember being in the Theater Department at Los Angeles City College long, long ago... some of us would go for lunch to a small coffee shop nearby, have lunch, then "flee." I still feel bad about having participated in that - but I was young and impressionable, and wanted to impress a certain brilliant young actor who was a couple of years ahead of me. (Yeah, yeah, Pen, go ahead and shift the blame...)
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: mrkdl73 on May 26, 2004, 08:25:00 AM
Since I wasn't online yesterday, I would like to catch up by mentioning my favorite Jerry Herman songs.  Actually, pretty much anything he wrote, I find enjoyable, but some particular favorites include "Time Heals Everything", "That's How Young  Feel" (I have a thing for Charlestons"), "Just Go to the Movies", and "Elegance", (even though there is some type of rumor he didn't write it, he's credited with writing it, so I'm including it).  I'm currently performing in Hello, Dolly at a dinner theater, so I get to sing his songs five times a week and today with a matinee and an evening, I get to sing them twice!  We close this Saturday, which is kind of sad, but I've been cast in the next show, so tomorrow I begin rehearsals for SHOW BOAT, playing Frank.

Oh, a DR Jason, I think you know Bill D. from your Bucks County days; he's our Cornelius and a wonderful guy (a Rodgers and Hammerstein reference).

I'm not sure who it was that ever came up with the bright idea of dinner theatre, but I don't think they liked actors.  I mean, they're asking people who's average age is death, to come, sit down, eat a big, warm meal and then sit in the same seat and watch a show in the dark for two hours, which means they're bound to nod off.  Then at the end of show, just when you think you've gotten a standing o, you realize they're just getting up to put their coats on because they're afraid the bus is going to leave without them.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Emily on May 26, 2004, 08:26:47 AM
The Tony website has announced what each nominated (and still playing - GRR BIG RIVER) musical will be performing on the telecast:

Assassins ­ Nominees Michael Cerveris, Denis O’Hare and company will perform “Everybody’s Got the Right”

Avenue Q ­ Nominees John Tartaglia, Stephanie D’Abruzzo and company will entertain with “It Sucks to Be Me”

The Boy from Oz ­ Nominee Hugh Jackman will prove (as Peter Allen) that he is “Not the Boy Next Door”

Caroline, or Change ­ Nominee Tonya Pinkins will sing “Lot’s Wife”

Fiddler on the Roof ­ Nominee Alfred Molina will lead the company in “Tradition”

Wicked ­ Nominees Idina Menzel and Kristin Chenoweth will perform the show’s act-one finale, “Defying Gravity”

Wonderful Town ­ Nominee Donna Murphy will lead the company in the production number “Swing.”

I am ecstactic that Wicked will be doing DG!  Huzzah!  Hooray!  And Avenue Q will definitely be a highlight as well!
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Matt H. on May 26, 2004, 08:28:29 AM
DR Jennifer, I would have been even harsher with Fantasia over that lousy first song. Letting the backup singers do all the singing while she did some improvised riffs just didn't do it for me AT ALL. After the first round, I was sure Diana had it, not because of the judges' negative reaction to Fantasia's singing so much but just because Diana seemed to put everything she had into that first rendition, and Fantasia didn't.


BTW, for those who care, a George Eads pic is on the way later this afternoon. The scanner is hooked up to the upstairs computer.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Matt H. on May 26, 2004, 08:29:45 AM
Elmore, was it you who wanted a DVD copy of SUNRISE? If so (or whoever it was), here's where you can buy a used copy:


http://www.secondspin.com/buy/search.cfm?SID=120463328779
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: mrkdl73 on May 26, 2004, 08:33:41 AM
Yes, I will confess there are times I've felt like committing crime, but I would like it to be noted here that never did.  Nothing major; I would have just liked to have slashed a certain ex's tires or key his car, but I refrained.  And I've moved on.  Though sometimes when I pass his place of biz, and I see his vehicle there, it does give me pause...

With regards to the JFK assassination, I hadn't been born yet.  Sorry.  The first national tragic event I recall was when I was in 6th grade spelling class and we were watching the Space Shuttle take off and then it happened.  We really didn't get much spelling done that day.  I just remember my teaching breaking down into tears and all of us knew it was sad, but were still too confused and young to process.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: PennyO on May 26, 2004, 08:35:59 AM
And I've been scrambling to get ready to leave for New York on Saturday morning. Finally got a hotel, West 73rd. Friends have already been picking evenings for dinners, and i finally decided yesterday which "best-8-bars" I'll sing for my audition. This best 8 will either shatter their eardrums, and therefore any chance I have to be called back at any future time, or so intrigue and delight them that they'll ask for 16 bars of 'something else.' Plus ca change...

Huzzah, that the hotel room studio has a kitchen and microwave and toaster and laundry and a gym, and last-minute booking gets me a break on the price. And it's a 20 minute walk to the Equity office, and 5 minutes from Lincoln Center, and just across the street from the 72nd St. subway. That has made me feel so sunshiney on this rainy day.

And, not only that - my water is once again running hot and cold IN THE HOUSE at the turn of a tap. I'll try the washing machine later today. Then it's dye the roots and pack. Tomorrow night I have an interview for directing a show in Sept. And I still have to copy music scores and get them to actors. I guess I have no time for getting Botox shoved into my frown lines...

Scramble, scramble. See Penny hop and dance and scurry!
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: George on May 26, 2004, 08:36:24 AM
-Well, since the "Goldberg Variations" were written for an insomniac.... Hmmm...  -Although the last time I tried "them", I ended being so enthralled by the piano playing... When I heard the Aria being repeated (after the quodlibet)... Ah, well...

This reminds me, one of my most favorite selections in my Quodlibet CD series (I've actually named my CDs "Simultaneous Songs") is "The Goldfarb Variations" from The Magic Show.  It's on my first CD. :D
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Jason on May 26, 2004, 08:39:24 AM
mrkdl: Yes, I love Bill D.! He's such a sweet guy...and very talented. Please send him my love. He was my best friend during the travesty that was my summer at Bucks County Playhouse. DR Jose knows Diggle, as well. Will he be doing SHOWBOAT with you? I need to email him... Too bad DOLLY is closing this weekend--I'll be in Chicago at the end of June--how close is Circa '21? And why don't they have a cast list on their website? Diggle must like it there...he's worked there quite a bit. Perhaps I'll audition for them next season.

Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Panni on May 26, 2004, 08:41:51 AM
Good morning. Good questions... Re crime: When I lived in Toronto one of my apartments was just up the street from Shoppers Drug Mart - a huge drug store. I was working on a sitcom at the time and would often come home very late after rewrite sessions. Those were the good old days when a woman could take the subway alone late at night and walk to her apartment without fearing for her life.(If I was really tired, I took a cab. Otherwise, the subway was great.) Anyway, on any number of occasions, as I rounded the corner towards my building I'd see someone running out of the drug store with plain clothes security in hot pursuit.
As for committing a crime... Well, I suppose in the eyes of the Hungarian government I did. My mother and I were arrested and put in jail for trying to cross the border into Austria in 1957.
The third part - No, i don't think I could live with myself if i committed a (serious) crime, even if I had the "Do Not Go to Jail" card.
As for the Kennedy assassination. I was putting something in my locker (or taking something out) in the hallway in high school, when I realized something weird was in the air. Just the way the adults were talking to each other, looking secretive and upset. Asked around and found out that way. There was a strange emotional connection to my father's death when I was five. He'd been in the hospital and was supposed to come home that day. I was playing in the corridor outside our apartment - a European open courtyard arrangement - riding my scooter, I think. I saw my horrible (adult) half-brother across the courtyard, talking to a neighbor. They looked very intense and serious. I went over and they stopped talking. And for some reason i instantly knew what had happened. Anyway, that's how I felt that day with Kennedy. Not the loss of a father - but just that feeling of knowing something was really off, that something BAD had happened - then discovering what it was.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: MBarnum on May 26, 2004, 08:45:21 AM
At the time of the Kennedy assassination I was in my mother’s womb. My sister (who was 13 at the time) was home watching a soap opera when the news came on telling what happened. I am trying to think now what the reaction was from her and my mother. I will have to ask them again.

As I had worked in retail for 13 years I witnessed numerous shoplifting incidents, but no major crimes. A guy with a rifle did try to threaten us in the pharmacy once, but the security guy tackled him. It did shake us up a bit, however.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Dan (the Man) on May 26, 2004, 08:51:49 AM
Here's a question for BK and any other DR who might like to answer: Have you ever witnessed a crime? [I witnessed a crime once--it was called BIG: THE MUSICAL. Remember, there's no groaning allowed here at HHW.com.]  Have you ever perpetrated a crime? The third part to my three-part question about crime: If you could commit any crime with no fear of repercussions, what crime would you commit?

Crime I have witnessed:  I've seen people shoplifting a number of times, but nothing like what I once witnessed in a mall department store.  I was browsing near the men's Polo department when, from out of nowhere it seemed, there were about ten teen-agers all grabbing armfulls of t-shirts, sweatshirts, jackets and then running for the nearby exit.  There was one lone saleswoman at the Polo counter who just kept screaming "Stop!".  These kids were well organized--it all happened so fast that they hit and were out in about thirty seconds and were gone before the first security guard came running.  I just stood there like a stunned ninny not believing what I saw.  (This turned out to be one of many in a rash of looting sprees in malls in my area.  I don't recall hearing or reading if the perps were ever caught.)

Crime I committed:  About ten years ago, I got lazy about getting car insurance after being dumped from a company that left the state. I was stopped twice in one week for driving an uninsured vehicle (a huge no-no in New Jersey.)  My lawyer managed to get this cut down to just one offense, but I still lost my license for a year.  What really pissed me off about that was that my neighbor at the time was stopped for DUI and lost his license for only six months!

Crime I would like to commit:  Murder most foul (but clever and witty, too!)
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Ron Pulliam on May 26, 2004, 08:58:08 AM
"American Idol" -- I personally think Fantasia is the best entertainer the show has ever had.

Last night, though, they were not being harsh with Fantasia about her first song, they were being critical of the arrangement -- in the middle of that criticism, they praised her for the fact that she made it good anyway.

Diana did not sing her last song very well -- she got way off key and it took her a while to bring it back around.

My main criticism of Diana is that every song is a screaming song -- it's always uptempo and written to throw one's vocal cords into ultra-shock.  Third time, last night, was the charm.   She simply could not sustain that type of song three times in one hour. (Another irritant is that she always starts these songs by rushing onstage and yelling, "Come on, y'all..."  Gimme a break!

Fantasia mixed it up, and she's been doing that throughout the competition.  Diana hasn't except on Big Band night when she did a surprising "Someone to Watch Over Me."

In regards to how America voted, I don't think the judges' comments will have been very favorable for Fantasia.  Every time they've ever been up front about her (or LaToya) being the best or pre-annointing her as the next Idol, she's ended up in the bottom two.  Simon will go on and on, praising Fantasia by degrading everyone else.  He cannot give a compliment that doesn't demean someone else.  I think the public lashes out for that reason.  I know I do.

:)

I tried and tried and tried to call last night and could not get through but once -- EACH -- to vote.

I don't care which one gets it.  I think they both deserve it, despite the judges who, once again, sounded pre-rehearsed in their commentaries.

On a sour note, has anyone else noticed that the judges always seem to think that each performance is about "them"?  As soon as a performer has sung and the audience is cheering, Randy Jackson exhibits little patience in letting the applause die down until he can be heard, and thus we get, "Fantasia!    Fantasia!  Yo!  Yo!"....meant to grab her attention away from her fans and to shut her fans up.

Simon, on the other hand, when he led off the critiquing a couple of weeks ago, just told the audience to "Shut up."  (Overheard many weeks ago after Jasmine finished a song, Simon was caught on an open mike saying, "They would stand up for THAT, wouldn't they!")

Some things cannot be controlled.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Ron Pulliam on May 26, 2004, 09:00:58 AM
Horrid sandwiches can be very harmful.

I've had a horrid sandwich or two in my life -- it was usually the mayonnaise, though, that made them horrid.

I've also encountered a wretched omelet that had far too many peppers and onions in it.

And I've a livid roast beef in my refrigerator that needs tossing out next time my trash bag gets full.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: George on May 26, 2004, 09:04:12 AM
I've been the victim of a crime:  Once, about 8 or 10 years ago, I left my apartment, but forgot to lock the door.  Actually, I left the door open.  Anyway, I got a phone call from the apartment manager and she asked if I had meant to leave my door open.  I said no.  When I got home, my apartment was its usual complete mess, but something was wrong.  It took a while to notice (it was that messy) but one of my two VCRs had been taken (the one on the bottom, and the better one...and the correct remote!) and the receiver of my stereo system.  I had a brand new copy of the (original) Star Wars trilogy right next to my TV but that wasn't taken.  I had a lot of other junk that wasn't taken as well.  I did call the police and someone came and took information (and he was very polite and nice...as well as nice to look at) but nothing really could be done.  I didn't have serial numbers for the items.  Oh well.  Live and learn. ::)
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Jennifer on May 26, 2004, 09:12:29 AM
DR Jennifer, I would have been even harsher with Fantasia over that lousy first song. Letting the backup singers do all the singing while she did some improvised riffs just didn't do it for me AT ALL. After the first round, I was sure Diana had it, not because of the judges' negative reaction to Fantasia's singing so much but just because Diana seemed to put everything she had into that first rendition, and Fantasia didn't.

Yes, I also thought it was strange that the backup singer seemed to sing most of that first song.  But given the influence of the judges, I was still very surprised that they criticized her so harshly.

Although that said, what they did to Diana at the end of the show was much worse. And because they did it at the end, it will have much more impact.

I do wonder though if people voted based on last night's performances, or merely for their favorite.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Jennifer on May 26, 2004, 09:16:46 AM
I also wasn't born when Kennedy was killed.  But like DR Jason I remember where I was during the space shuttle tragedy.  I was at rehearsals for Hello Dolly (high school production) and we were getting ready for one of our entrances when we were told the news.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Jrand73 on May 26, 2004, 09:17:32 AM
MRKDL73....Frank is one my favorite parts that I have ever played....the songs and dances are fun...and you get to be a bit dramatci as well!

Break a leg!
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Dan (the Man) on May 26, 2004, 09:20:09 AM
This leads me to my Ask Dear Readers question (for Dear Readers over a certain age).  The one new song in ASSASSINS (added initially in London) is "Something Just Broke" with the Ensemble remembering where they were when they heard of the Kennedy Assassination.  Where were you when you heard the news.  

I've only the vaguest memories--I was only about five years old.  I rememeber that my dad was home from work, which struck me as odd.  I remember my one sister coming home early from school and telling my parents that the President was shot.  For some reason my dad turned on the radio to listen to the news and it wasn't until hours later that the TV was turned on.  I remember my mom yelling at my oldest sister for not coming home from high school at the same time my other sister did and her crying back that the nuns made all the students go into the church to pray and wouldn't let them go home.  My mom didn't make dinner that night--my dad went out and got us hamburgers.  I remember that my aunt and uncle and our neighbors coming over that night watching the TV (which seemed to be on all the time during the following week.)   But what I remember most about that day was all the crying.  My mom, my sisters, my aunt and the neighbor lady all crying or red-eyed.   I think that, even though I somehat understood that something horrendous had happened, that the crying upset and frightened me more than anything else.

I do not like "Something Just Broke" in ASSASSINS.  I can understand why Sondheim might have wanted to insert it when the show played London and why he might feel that it's still valid to include in the revival, but I think it stops the show cold.  I have yet to see it staged, so maybe my opinion will change once I see the show, but as of right now I prefer the way the original production ended.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: William E. Lurie on May 26, 2004, 09:40:37 AM
Very interesting answers on the Kennedy assassination.  Thanks to all.

Dan (the man) - Something just broke doesn't end ASSASSINS.  It comes between the Oswald scene and "Everybody's Got the right' which still ends the show.  It is staged very well in the current production, but I could imagine it might not be staged as well in other productions.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: elmore3003 on May 26, 2004, 09:43:38 AM
DR Jason, the biggest crime I ever saw onstage was either CARRIE, because it was criminal that so many talented people had screwed up something so epically, or THE NEWS, a punk musical about a serial killer, in which I kept wishing he'd come down from the stage, kill me, and put me out of my misery.  Around 1980 or so, around noon, I saw an act of violence at 50th and Broadway in front of the building tyhat has the Circle in the Square:  several young thugs were beating up an older man pretty badly, and that was the day I decided that whenever I saw a gathered crowd I would avoid it.

DR WEL, I was in economics class in my senior year of high school, when the principal announced on the loudspeaker that we were dismissed because President Kennedy had been shot.  I don't think I knew he was dead until I got home.

Dear Friend BK, I'm sorry I called you so early but I wanted to tell you the news!  I hope you got the message.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: elmore3003 on May 26, 2004, 09:48:34 AM
Elmore, was it you who wanted a DVD copy of SUNRISE? If so (or whoever it was), here's where you can buy a used copy:


http://www.secondspin.com/buy/search.cfm?SID=120463328779

Thank you!  Yes, it was I!  What a great film.  It was my late friend Bill Tynes' favorite, if I remember correctly.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Jennifer on May 26, 2004, 09:48:59 AM
DR RLP, I still think the judges were pretty harsh with Fantasia on her first song.  Simon's only comment was that it was a mess.  Yah Paula did say that she could sing through a messed arrangement.  But to me at least, i was shocked.

Btw, all 3 lines for each were busy?
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Jason on May 26, 2004, 10:02:17 AM
I think Jennifer was shocked and she thinks they were too hard on Fantasia.

Elmore: It may have been a travesty, but I envy you for having the opportunity to see CARRIE. I love musicals, but I REALLY love BAD musicals. I saw DANCE OF THE VAMPIRES five times because I knew it would rank (and boy, was it rank) up there with shows like CARRIE and MOOSE MURDERS and I wanted to be part of it. I saw URBAN COWBOY for the same reason, but that wasn't fun bad theatre...that was just plain ole' bad. I'm starting a collection of really bad and/or tacky musicals on CD--a collection that already includes DANCE OF THE VAMPIRES, THE SCREAMS OF KITTY GENOVESE, PRINCESS DIANA: THE MUSICAL, POOP: THE MUSICAL, THE BLACK TULIP ("Tulip Madness! Tulip Fee-vah! Tulip Madness! Too-lip Loon-ah-see!!") and I'm waiting for my copies of MAMELEH! and UGH: THE CAVEMAN MUSICAL. It's a sickness that I can't explain, but I love it.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: bk on May 26, 2004, 10:08:41 AM
elmore, tried to call you back, but just got ringing, no message or voice mail.  New Juliana will be up in about ten minutes and then I'll get to your questions.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: JoseSPiano on May 26, 2004, 10:20:22 AM
Good Afternoon!

-I would have made it to "Good Morning" had I gotten up about 30 minutes earlier, but, alas... (see my last and first posts from earlier today)...

As for where I was during the Kennedy Assassination... I, too, was not born yet, but I do remember where I was during the Space Shuttle disaster.  (Which, unfortunately, is now the first Space Shuttle disaster.)  I was in grade school, and the principal come on over the PA system and announced what had happened.  Some of the classes in the school had been watching the launch on TV, but not mine.  We all started shifting to classrooms with TVs and watching the coverage...

The one image that sticks in my head:  One of the networks had a camera on the teacher who was the runner-up for the "teacher" slot...  They were covering him in his classroom during the countdown that morning... Well... The cameras wanted to keep rolling, but he eventually pushed them away...  The amount of different emotions in his face...
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: bk on May 26, 2004, 10:27:50 AM

My question for ask BK day - do you have a webcam?  Do you ever use it?


No, I don't have a webcam.  I probably wouldn't use it if I did except to take revealing photos of me taking off my socks.

Juliana's Journal entry is up.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Jason on May 26, 2004, 10:28:20 AM
I remember where I was for the second shuttle disaster--I was in Washington, DC with my friend, Diane. We were there for a weekend of theatre-going, and we woke up to the news on TV. Later that afternoon I met DR Jose for the first time at Arena Stage's production of SOUTH PACIFIC.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: JoseSPiano on May 26, 2004, 10:34:50 AM
As for crimes...

I've seen someone shoplift some wine coolers from Safeway...  And I remember being in an ice cream shop when some idiot came in and just started knocking things off the counter while yelling at no one in particular - but you could just feel his rage.  Someone ran after him, but I don't believe he was caught.  Thankfully, the damage was mainly confined to some broken plates and some spilled condiments.  I know I've witnessed some other crimes, but they're not coming to mind right now.  -And since I worked for the government for a five summers, I'm sure I witnessed some "white collar" stuff.  -Heck, even I used the office copier to copy scores from time to time.  -Your tax dollars at work!

I will also admit that I've shoplifted before.  Magazines.

Oh, and I remember the first time I saw someone shoplift... I was with a group of friends in high school, and we were at the mall.  One of the girls saw this hair scrunchy she really liked... So, she just took it off the rack, said, "Hey, I like this!", and stuck it in her pocket.  WOW!?!?!  And I went to a Catholic high school!  -That Catholic girl did not start much too late! -to paraphrase Billy Joel.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Panni on May 26, 2004, 10:41:08 AM
JR - I meant to say earier that I liked your story of turning the hose on the fleeing criminal. Great picture!
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: elmore3003 on May 26, 2004, 10:42:02 AM
And I've been scrambling to get ready to leave for New York on Saturday morning. Finally got a hotel, West 73rd. Friends have already been picking evenings for dinners, and i finally decided yesterday which "best-8-bars" I'll sing for my audition. This best 8 will either shatter their eardrums, and therefore any chance I have to be called back at any future time, or so intrigue and delight them that they'll ask for 16 bars of 'something else.' Plus ca change...
DR Penny O, have we set a time? date? place?  I believe DR Ben wants to join us, and I would be very happy with that.  West 73rd just a skip from my neck of the Upper West side!
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: bk on May 26, 2004, 10:42:32 AM

Here's a question for BK and any other DR who might like to answer: Have you ever witnessed a crime? [I witnessed a crime once--it was called BIG: THE MUSICAL. Remember, there's no groaning allowed here at HHW.com.]  Have you ever perpetrated a crime? The third part to my three-part question about crime: If you could commit any crime with no fear of repercussions, what crime would you commit?

Part one: I witnessed someone get caught at Tower for "stealing" a CD.  The person denied it, though, said he'd just been absent-minded.  Whether that was true or not, the way the security guard almost shoved him through the glass entrance door, screaming at him as if the man were a murderer or rapist was one of the most disgusting things I've ever seen.  I demanded the guard's name (and got it), called the Tower corporate offices, and reported it and said if they didn't fire him I would report him to the police.  As far as I know they did.

Part two: PennyO has already spoken of our game of "fleeing" restaurants - we thought it was funny.  In retrospect, nah.

Part three: Well, I think everyone here probably knows the answer to this question, but for anyone who doesn't my new book might just provide a clew.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Panni on May 26, 2004, 10:42:53 AM
Funny - I don't remember where I was for the Shuttle disasters. have very little memory of the whole thing. Weirdly enough, I do remember where I was when I heard Princess Diana had been killed.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: JoseSPiano on May 26, 2004, 10:44:30 AM
DR Jason - Circa '21 is on the other side of the state of Illinois from Chicago.  It's in Rock Island (part of the Quad Cities), and you're right on the Mississippi River - the only place it runs east to west - or is that west to east.  And right across the river is River City, Iowa!  -Really, it's just like The Music Man!  -I had a gig there a few years ago.  Had a good time.

*And you can actually run across the Mississippi on the Centennial Bridge - it's just a mile long/wide there.  Such a natural high when you realize that you've just crossed the Mississippi!!

DR mrkdl73 - Please give my best to Diggle too!  Is Amanda there too?  -Or is Amanda out of the picture?  (Again...;))

-And please say HI to Denny and the gang for me!!!

-And have you started the "beer tour" at the Rock Island Brewing Company?

-Oh, and is there a chance that I've played for you at SETCs or UPTAs?

Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: TCB on May 26, 2004, 10:45:08 AM
Kennedy Assassination:  I was in the 8th grade in ‘63, and we had just started our Drama Class on that Friday morning.  Already, the main topic of conversation was the big fire, the night before, on the Tacoma waterfront that had completely destroyed a marina and boat sales company.  The marina had been owned by the parents of the girl who sat behind me in Drama, who naturally was not in class that day.  Our class was rehearsing for the school’s Christmas Play (gee, a Christmas pageant in a public school) and we were currently in competition with the other Drama Class to see which class would be selected to do the evening performance for the parents coming up in December.  Our teacher came in looking very serious (and very dramatic) and said that she had very bad news for us, which she hoped, would not affect our rehearsal.  We all assumed that she was going to tell us that the other Drama Class had been chosen over us for the evening performance.  Instead she told us that the President had been shot, and that it was believed that he had been struck in the head.  And then she started the rehearsal.  No other details, no class discussion – just rehearsal for a stupid Christmas play.  I will never forget the shock and horror of that announcement, but, at the same time, the very guilty sense of relief that we had not lost the competition for the evening performance (which we, of course, eventually won).

Two days later, I persuaded my Mother to let me miss church because they were going to be moving the President’s body to, I believe, the Capitol.  There was also talk that we might get to see the man accused of killing the President when he was removed from the Dallas jail.  Just as my Mom opened the front door to leave for church, the television cameras switched to the basement of the Dallas jail for the transfer of Lee Harvey Oswald.  I will never forget that moment, with my Mom at the door and me sitting as close to the TV as I am to this computer screen, when Jack Ruby stepped in front of Oswald and shot him live in front of our eyes.  Seeing someone shot on television was probably the single most powerful memory I have of any world event until the morning of September 11th  when I watched that second airplane fly into  the side of the World Trade Center.

And yes, Dan, you remember correctly.  All regular programming and commercials were cancelled from the time of the assassination until the last wrap-up of the events on Monday evening following the funeral, at which time all of the networks just went off the air until the next morning.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: bk on May 26, 2004, 10:45:10 AM
Kennedy: It's a major part of a chapter in Kritzer Time so I don't want to spoil that for anyone who hasn't read the book (and you know who you are).
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: elmore3003 on May 26, 2004, 10:45:49 AM

Elmore: It may have been a travesty, but I envy you for having the opportunity to see CARRIE.


DR Jason, and you have no regrets over missing THE NEWS?  
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Jason on May 26, 2004, 10:48:55 AM
Crimes...hmm...I don't know if I can answer my own question!

I saw someone steal a roadsign once. I've seen people bootlegging at shows. I observe the photocopying and dubbing of music all the time, but as far as major crimes, I can't say I've ever seen one happen.

The only thing I can think of that I've done that is kind of a crime--I went egging with a friend of mine in middle school. I guess that'd be considered vandalism... Oh--and I forged my mother's name on a test that I failed in fourth grade (the teachers required parent's signatures when you failed a test so they knew you showed it to your mom and/or dad.) I was suspended from hosting the school's live television news broadcast for a couple of months as punishment, but I worked my way up to head anchor by the end of the year and I never forged anything ever again.

If I could commit any crime without fear of punishment, I guess I'd probably steal a great amount of money. I don't care to kill anyone, really, nor do I wish to damage any property. I just want to have a little bit of spare cash, so I think I'd hold up a bank. Yes, that's the crime I'd choose...I'd hold up a bank.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: JoseSPiano on May 26, 2004, 10:55:41 AM
DR WEL - Regarding "Something Just Broke"... I haven't seen this production of Assassins yet, but in London - and in the lyrics - "Something Just Broke" actually refers to how people felt when they heard the news of the assassination of not only Kennedy but other presidents.  I don't have the text in front of me right now, but there are some subtle references to locale and time.

-Which is my main problem with the song...  After the Kennedy sequence, how could the audience not interpret "Something Just Broke" as only referring to the Kennedy assassination.  One production I saw ended up having the ensemble dressed in different styles, different periods, as well as projecting the images of the other assassinated presidents behind them.  It worked - for the most part.

Does anyone know if the lyrics to "Something Just Broke" have been tweaked for this "revival"?
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Charles Pogue on May 26, 2004, 10:57:24 AM
I don't know about dinner theatre disliking actors, but it kept me gainfully employed from 1974-1979 in my chosen profession as an actor.  I also thought it a great training ground for learning how to get a show up slick and fast for an audience in ten days' time.  It was a great boon to actors and even though some of the shows were schlock, it brought audiences into the theatre that had never been there before.  It's pretty much extinct these days.  I would love to see it revived, but I guess with other diverstissments to attract people like DVDs, videos, internet, its time has pretty much passed.

Other than the occasional traffic violation or knowingly speeding on the interstate (but you can go a hundred in some stretches of Arizona and New Mexico and even the cops will pass you by), I've never committed a crime to my knowledge.

Once at the news stand at Cahuenga and Hollywood, I had my wallet lifted out of my back pocket.  I had my dog at the time, my Yorkshire Hotspur, with me.  I immediately knew the wallet had been lifted and I wheeled, the guy was running across the street.  I shouted at him to let everyone know he was a thief and kept shouting at him, as I raced across the street after him.  The guys at the news stand held my dog for me (I walked him down there almost every day so they knew him).  I chased the thief who was rather pudgy across a parking lot.  He was getting winded, despite the fact that I was running in sandals and don't know how long I could have followed him.  Anyway, breathless, he turned and threw my wallet back at me, yelling:  "I'm no thief, man, I'm no thief!"  I shouted back:  "Oh...what else the Hell are you when you steal someone's wallet?"  He had also lost his baseball hat in his flight and I had grabbed it.  He wanted me to toss it back to him.  I told him "no", I was going to give to the police (stupid, I know), but it bothered him.  Anyway, I got my wallet back and he hadn't had a chance to take anything out of it.  It wasn't the money I would have minded; it would have been the pain-in-the-ass trouble of having to replace credit cards and drivers licenses and crap like that.

My question for the day:  Do you keep reading literature in your bathroom? Some titles, please...
Mine...a copy of the Odyssey, Paperweight, humourous essays by Stephen Fry; Uncle John's Bathroom Reader; The Food of Death - 51 Tales by Lord Dunsay; The Murderer's Who's Who; After the Funeral (what became of famous people's corpses); The Big Broadcast 1920-1950 (about old radio shows); Private Lives (capsule bios of famous historical figures); Minute Mysteries; Curious Customs; Legends and Tales of the American West; They Went Thattaway (how famous people died) by Malcolm Forbes; The Histories and Poems of Shakespeare (I was working my way through Shakespeare's sonnets)
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: TCB on May 26, 2004, 11:00:23 AM
Crimes...hmm...I don't know if I can answer my own question!



The only thing I can think of that I've done that is kind of a crime--I went egging with a friend of mine in middle school. I guess that'd be considered vandalism... Oh--and I forged my mother's name on a test that I failed in fourth grade (the teachers required parent's signatures when you failed a test so they knew you showed it to your mom and/or dad.) I was suspended from hosting the school's live television news broadcast for a couple of months as punishment, but I worked my way up to head anchor by the end of the year and I never forged anything ever again.


Is that anything like a Head Nurse?
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: JoseSPiano on May 26, 2004, 11:02:10 AM
OK - I got some laundry started, and now I'm going to head out to get my hair cut!!!  OH!! And I need to look for a birthday present for Steve... Hmm...

See you when I get back from Mr. Lee!  *Who remembers EVERYONE's name who has ever come into his barber shop!  And he gives a great hair cut too!  And for only $10.00!!!

Laters...
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Ben on May 26, 2004, 11:05:03 AM
Yes, DR Elmore, I (and perhaps Anthony) would like to join you and Penny O. I'm downtown in trendy, expensive Chelsea but am willing to travel to meet lovely and charming Hainsies and Kimlets. I also know that area of the UWS very well, having had a small theatre company ensconced in the upper floor of what is now The Triad and previously was Pallson's and then Steve McGraw's.

I was home from school (out sick that Friday) watching The Price is Right and folding laundry for my Mother when the program was interrupted with the first news bulletin. The time is burned into my memory. We did go to church that Sunday (my Father did not go) and when we got home he was waiting for us with the second most amazing news of the weekend, the shooting of Oswald.

I had gone home for lunch and turned on the television when I heard the news of the first shuttle explosion. I called back to the office to friends and most of them, obviously, didn't know. They turned on a television and we spent much of the afternoon watching the news.

Like Jason, I remember where I was when I heard about the second shuttle explosion because it happened on Saturday, February 1, 2003, the day before my 50th birthday. Anthony had planned a large surprise party for me (I knew nothing about it - it was a total surprise) for that eveningand because he was so involved in the preparations for the party, he knew nothing about it. The party still went on (it was a great party) but I'll always remember the second shuttle blow-up because of that.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Jrand73 on May 26, 2004, 11:10:59 AM
DR PANNI - re:my waterlogged criminal - it must have been funny to see.

And - thanks for the video.  I am making you something special!

The Shuttle disaster - I was rehearsing to be in AS IS, one of the "aids" plays - and it was very depressing - I was at work one morning - working part time at the family's gas station when it came on the radio.

No customers for a LONG time, sad music on the radio...and very very sad to see the pictures when I got home later in the afternoon.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: elmore3003 on May 26, 2004, 11:11:20 AM
DR Ben (and Anthony), as soon as I know what DR Penny O is doing with her time, I will let you know.  Perhaps DR Jason and any other East Coast Hainsies would like to come along?  Get your copies of JEWISH THIGHS ON BROADWAY for signing and scandal!
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Jed on May 26, 2004, 11:17:42 AM
JFK - well before my time
Shuttle #1 - I was in kindergarten at the time, but only went 3 days a week (full days as opposed to 5 half-days).  The shuttle was one of my days off, so I was at home watching the launch on TV over breakfast.  Being 6 years old, it wasn't very long before I was just irked that my cartoons were being pre-empted
Shuttle #2 - Being a Saturday, I normally would never have been up so early (west coast, remember), but it was the day of our area's high school vocal solo competition, and I had a number of students performing, so I was up and getting ready for the day.  Tuned in while they had lost contact with the shuttle and weren't sure what was going on, and just a couple minutes before they discovered they'd lost the shuttle.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: MBarnum on May 26, 2004, 11:35:39 AM
I first heard about the space shuttle disaster (the first one) when I was at work at Bi-Mart. We had all the televisions on in the electronics department and all the TVs kept showing it over and over. I don’t remember if it happened while I was at work of if I only learned of it after I got to work.

I don’t recall anything at all about the other shuttle disaster. I must have blocked it out.

I was on the computer when I learned of Princess Diana’s death and saw the news flash on AOL’s home page...ditto with JFK Jr.’s plane crash.

9/11 is still vivid in my memory. I woke up as normal, around 6 am or so and flipped on the TV news to listen to as I got ready for work. I saw Katie and Matt on NBC and thought that was odd to see them this early in them morning. Then I saw what had happened. The second plane had just crashed into the towers and Katie was talking about how this couldn’t possible be just a coincidence that two planes would crash. I was stunned. Then as I was watching they reported a plane crashed into the pentagon. I got ready for work and was in shock the remainder of the day. Didn’t do a lick of work. My co-worker Amy and I drug the little portable TV out of the conference room and set it up by our desk and we just sat stunned all day long watching the newscasts that day and the following day. It really took me about 2 days for it to really sink in that this had actually happened.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: bk on May 26, 2004, 11:46:48 AM
I don't think we mentioned it (we are getting complacent), but we recently passed 45,000 postings and are on our way to a new landmark.  

More questions.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Jed on May 26, 2004, 11:54:45 AM
To keep up with all the things MBarnum brought up...

Princess Diana - I was playing football with a bunch of my cousins at my grandparents' house.  I think one of my aunts came out and told us what was going on.
JFK Jr. - Driving home from a morning theatre rehearsal, heard on NPR
9/11 - I was housesitting for one of my professors, and had slept in.  By the time I got up and turned on the TV, both towers had already collapsed.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Panni on May 26, 2004, 12:01:58 PM
JR - Are you knitting me a scarf?

FS Pogue - You must spend a LOT of time in the bathroom! I used to keep a stack of books in the john, but my bathroom now is so small that the only place to leave books is on top of the trash bin - and they wind up falling in the trash. So now I only have magazines in there. Most recent : NY Times Book Review.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: elmore3003 on May 26, 2004, 12:02:54 PM

Huzzah, that the hotel room studio has a kitchen and microwave and toaster and laundry and a gym, and last-minute booking gets me a break on the price. And it's a 20 minute walk to the Equity office, and 5 minutes from Lincoln Center, and just across the street from the 72nd St. subway. That has made me feel so sunshiney on this rainy day.


DR PennyO, you'll get to see the new 72nd  Street subway station!
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: TCB on May 26, 2004, 12:09:09 PM
It’s strange how different events affect different people in different ways (wow, that is a different sentence.  Both of the shuttle disasters were, of course, tragedies, but they seemed to me to be almost inevitable.  The tragedy in the space program for me was when the three Apollo 1 astronauts died in their space capsule during a practice launch.  That was worse to me because, first of all it was the first-time we had actually lost a crew, and secondly because two of the astronauts were already well-known to all of us: Gus Grissom, the second American in space; and Ed White, the first American to walk in space.  Of course, I may have been more familiar with the space program than most kids, because my Mom made sure that I got up and watched the launch of each and every mission starting with Alan Shepard until sometime during the Apollo program when I was in high school.

mrkdl73 – I am glad that you are enjoying your production of HELLO, DOLLY!  I played Horace in a production last summer opposite my best friend who played Dolly.  It was one of the best experiences I have ever had in theater, and at the closing performance, the entire cast (and crew) cried our way through the Finale and the Bows.

Crimes:  Well, back in the 60s and early 70s, I suppose I committed a great many crimes (or a great many of the same crimes) that were still on the books at that time in Washington, Oregon, California, and Washington D.C.  Sadly, in spite of committing all those crimes, I am not at this time, a wanted man.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Ben on May 26, 2004, 12:11:36 PM
I was sitting in my office building not more than a mile and a half from the WTC and the phone rang at 8:45 am. Unsual for early morning. I knew it was an outside call from the ring. It was my sister in Minnesota in the parking lot of her office. She was breathless and asked if I was OK? I assured her I was and then she said a plane crashed into the WTC. My first thought (apparently I wasn't alone in this from hearing other people's recollections) was "oh, no, a small commuter or private plane hit one of the towers". Little did I know... People were still coming into the office (we open early but most folks work from 9 to 5). We all evacuated at one point and some of the folks on the street saw the second plane hit. I had run home (living a half block from the office) to make sure Anthony was OK. I came back and saw the second tower on fire. Management said we should probably be back in the office for safety reasons. We complied and while watching television i the conference room the decision was made to close the office. We went home around 10:30am and were closed for the next day as well. Ant and I went to the store and then stayed in all day calling to tell people we were OK and getting calls from friends saying the same. We went out around 4pm and walked to the Hudson River just as one of the last smaller buildings fell. It was quite a spooky time in New York, especially if you were in Lower Manhattan south of 23rd Street. The pictures of the missing went up almost immediately and in hours everywhere you looked were photocopies of pictures of people. They stayed up for weeks and weeks. Luckily, we didn't lose any friends but we had others who worked downtown blocks from the site and they have stories of running through the clouds of smoke and debris that will stay with them forever.

Enough of this. I will move on.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: elmore3003 on May 26, 2004, 12:12:23 PM
Wow! This is like the Great Disaster Tour at Disneyworld.  I love it.

The space shuttle in 1986:  I was here copying orchestra parts for JUBILEE, my Cole Porter restoration.  I had been running around delivering scores to copyists who were helping me get ready for the March performances, and I had the tv on for company.  I vaguely remember all the brouhaha and interviews before the launch and how horrifying the aftermath became.

9/11:  I was in London recording a Victor Herbert show from 1912, THE LADY OF THE SLIPPER, with Hugh Panaro, George Dvorsky, and Donna Lynn Champlin, and because of the erratic behavior of the Man In Charge, Hugh and George had been waiting around all morning to record.  After lunch break they went to the manager's office of Henry Wood Hall to kill time by watching tv.  George came down to the studio to tell us that a plance had hit the World Trade Center, and I - being thoroughly sick of the escapades of the Man In Charge - decided to see what was going on.  I saw the second plane hit and all the live coverage through the collapse of the towers.  I'm still in shock.

Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Ben on May 26, 2004, 12:13:45 PM
I have been the victim of a crime three times (mugging) and I have been involved in crimes in that I've been on juries 6 times.

I shoplifted when I was about 5 or 6 years old. A pack of candy. I can remember to this day the fear I felt. It wasn't fun at all and I couldn't even eat the candy I felt so awful.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: elmore3003 on May 26, 2004, 12:15:00 PM
I forgot to mention that my friend in charge of music preparation for the recording was on the British Airways  9 am flight to London on 9/11.  They taxied out and began the ascent, stopped the flight and took all the passengers back to JFK.  It took him over eight hours to get back to his apartment.  I later learned that a college friend was on the first plane to hit the WTC.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Ben on May 26, 2004, 12:15:47 PM
FYI, DR Elmore, on my lunch hour today I stopped into Footlight and there was Fine and Dandy with your name on the back (among others). Haven't picked it up yet but they actually had it for a decent price (I like Footlight but sometimes the prices they charge make me wish I wasn't so intent on owning musical theatre CDs).
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: MBarnum on May 26, 2004, 12:21:01 PM
On a more pleasant note, Columbia Tri-Star is realeasing a DVD set GIDGET: THE COMPLETE COLLECTION on DVD August 30.

GIDGET, GIDGET GOES HAWAIIAN, and GIDGET GOES TO ROME.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: elmore3003 on May 26, 2004, 12:26:32 PM
FYI, DR Elmore, on my lunch hour today I stopped into Footlight and there was Fine and Dandy with your name on the back (among others). Haven't picked it up yet but they actually had it for a decent price (I like Footlight but sometimes the prices they charge make me wish I wasn't so intent on owning musical theatre CDs).

I think today was the official store release date, DRBen.  I ran into my postman today and he said he had noticed that it took 8 days for the CDs to arrive from Bronxville.  Of course, he had no idea what the hell is going on with the US Postal Service.  Also, DRBen, I've been in touch with DRPennyO, and I suggested a possible time Tuesday after her audition, but I'm waiting to hear back.  Otherwise, it may be Wednesday after 5 pm.  We could do Midtown or the Upper West Side.  I suggested Joe Allen's since it is a part of Kimmel lore, but you may have some ideas.  Perhaps DRJason does as well?   I don't know the area around 72nd Street well enough to make any suggestion there.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: elmore3003 on May 26, 2004, 12:33:29 PM
Elmore, was it you who wanted a DVD copy of SUNRISE? If so (or whoever it was), here's where you can buy a used copy:


http://www.secondspin.com/buy/search.cfm?SID=120463328779

DR MattH, I never knew of this site, which may replace eBay as my fave (after HHW, of course)!  Thank you so much for introducing me to it.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: TCB on May 26, 2004, 12:34:44 PM
Princess Di:  I had just left the theater awards banquet here in town and had gone to a friend’s birthday party.  Just at the same time I knocked on the door at the party, someone inside was talking to a friend on their cell phone who told them Diana was dead.  The woman had just silenced everyone to tell them the news, at which point the door was opened for me.  I was greeted by my friend’s sister not with a hug or a hello, but with this stunned expression on her face and the word’s, “Princess Di is dead.”

JFK Jr.:  I was at home, reading, when my friend, Sharry called.  We talked about several different things, and at one point she said something about John Kennedy’s death being such a tragedy.  Now, I thought that was rather a strange comment, since he had already been dead for almost forty years, but when you talk to Sharry, you just learn to go with the conversation regardless of what direction it takes.  So, not wanting to argue, I agreed that John Kennedy’s death was a tragedy.  It was only after I hung up the phone and  I finally turned on the television, that I found out she was talking about Junior, not Senior.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Ben on May 26, 2004, 12:34:52 PM
DR Elmore, either day is fine for me. I'm finished work at 4pm so I can just hop on a train. In spite of my previous statement about my theatre company being ther, I know that 72nd Street has changed in the past years. I don't know it well enough to make recommendations either. Joe Allen's is good for me and if we go sometime after 5 we could avoid the theatre crowds that come in a bit later in the evening before their shows.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: elmore3003 on May 26, 2004, 12:39:49 PM
DR Elmore, either day is fine for me. I'm finished work at 4pm so I can just hop on a train. In spite of my previous statement about my theatre company being ther, I know that 72nd Street has changed in the past years. I don't know it well enough to make recommendations either. Joe Allen's is good for me and if we go sometime after 5 we could avoid the theatre crowds that come in a bit later in the evening before their shows.

Fab!  There used to be a wonderful deli on the south side of 72nd Street between Amsterdam and Columbus, almost to Columbus.  I met friends there for breakfast several times.  Let's see how DRPennyO's thoughts go on the matter.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Jason on May 26, 2004, 12:49:18 PM
I got a random call today at work. It was Elmore! Color me surprised.... :-)  I think Joe Allen sounds splendid, but I'm up for just about anything, honestly. There's not much by way of food around 72nd Street, which has always baffled me. You'd think there'd be TONS of food around Lincoln Center, but no. You guys just tell me where to be and I'll be there. Perhaps I'll bring my copy of A DOLL'S LIFE for Ms. PennyO to sign. :-P

Princess Diana: My family and I were watching TV in our living room. We were all in shock. We spent two years living in England--we were there around the time of "The Wedding"--so we all felt a sort of connection to her. My father wouldn't turn the TV off until he'd learned every bit of information there was to be had.

JFK, Jr.: I was in a rehearsal for WEST SIDE STORY. The dancers were rehearsing "The Dance at the Gym" and I was in the lobby watching the small TV they had at the rehearsal studio when the announcement was made that he and his family were missing. They stopped the rehearsal for about an hour and we all congregated around the television...it was very sad.

9/11: I had started my very first temp job that day (in Louisville, not NYC) and I started work at 9 a.m. Of course, by 9:15 people started running in announcing that a plane had flown into the WTC and by 10 or 10:30 all Hell had broken loose. Rumours were going around that Fort Knox--which is about 40 minutes outside of Louisville--was a target and that we should all be prepared for the worst. Several of my graduate school friends had just moved to the City a couple of weeks earlier. I knew they were temping, but I didn't know where and I had no way of getting in touch with them. We were dismissed from work at 11:00 a.m. and I remember listening to the reports on the radio and getting this horrible feeling that planes were going to start falling out of the sky all over the country. When I got home I turned on the TV and started viewing what was the beginning of a blitzkrieg of images that still make my stomach churn. Surprisingly, after 9/11 happened, I not only wanted to come to New York...I felt that I NEEDED to come to New York. I don't know why...
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Stuart on May 26, 2004, 12:56:58 PM
Surprisingly, after 9/11 happened, I not only wanted to come to New York...I felt that I NEEDED to come to New York. I don't know why...

Ironic, isn't it?  It was the exact same event that convinced me to leave NYC after living there all my life.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Matt H. on May 26, 2004, 01:02:32 PM
Well, I've already mentioned how much I love and admire ASSASSINS, but the first time I saw it staged with "Something Just Broke," I was in tears. That song tore me up, maybe because I was around during that period in history and understood what I felt then and what I feel now about it, but for whatever the reason, I think it was a terrific addition to the score of the show.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: bk on May 26, 2004, 01:05:17 PM
Gidget, yes!  That is the ginchiest news of the day.  I am THERE, baby.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Dan (the Man) on May 26, 2004, 01:06:29 PM
Wicked ­ Nominees Idina Menzel and Kristin Chenoweth will perform the show’s act-one finale, “Defying Gravity”

I had a feeling they would do "Defying Gravity" but I thought they'd also combine it with "Popular".  Chenowith has little to do in "DG".
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on May 26, 2004, 01:07:21 PM
I was mugged shortly after I moved from New York to Toronto the Good. I wasn't hurt, but the mugger got my wallet.

A few years ago I was walking from my doctor's office to the subway. A woman in her nightgown came flying out of her house. In broken English she shouted hysterically that her daughter was gone. From what I understood, the little girl had disappeared from the backyard while the mother had gone inside for a moment. I saw no sign of the child along the street. The mother called the police as I checked the back. Happily, everything turned out well. The child had been in the house all along.

When I told the story to my friend Laura, she said, "What a chutzpah that woman had."
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Matt H. on May 26, 2004, 01:10:50 PM
On a more pleasant note, Columbia Tri-Star is realeasing a DVD set GIDGET: THE COMPLETE COLLECTION on DVD August 30.

GIDGET, GIDGET GOES HAWAIIAN, and GIDGET GOES TO ROME.

I saw the announcement of the set's title but didn't investigate. Now, I'm disappointed that the Sally Field sitcom GIDGET isn't part of the package.  :(
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Matt H. on May 26, 2004, 01:13:48 PM
DR Elmore, you're welcome about the DVD site information. I've gotten many a disc from them, and often even though they're called used, they are actually overbuys cut from inventory from places like Target and are still in the shrink wrap - esentially brand new items.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Jrand73 on May 26, 2004, 01:26:21 PM
Oh my....

Princess Diana - I was directing a production of MY FAIR LADY and I had gotten home late.  I turned on the television and there was a crawler on the network about the crash, so I turned on CNN and watched the drama unfold.  As soon as I saw the car, I knew there was no hope.   Sad sad sad.  She made the most of her few years, made some good choices, and some bad choices, but I do think she changed the British monarchy for the better.

JFK Jr - when I got up one morning they were searching the waters and the news just got worse.  Another young life sadly lost.

9/11 - I had gotten to work and there was a report that a plane had crashed into the WTC and yes I thought some small commuter plane had misjudged his position or altitude.  Then more reports came in.  And then as people began to come into the office, we heard....the second plane crash...and a third on the ground in Pennsylvania.  We turned on a television - and it was one thing to hear the reports and quite another to see the destruction.  I had a brush up rehearsal that night for a production of THE ODD COUPLE (I was playing Felix) and I almost didn't go, but I did.  And we did our second weekend to smaller audiences, but those that came said thank you...it is the first time I have smile in a few days.  But it was very surreal to be doing Neil Simon's play set in NYC that particular weekend.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Jrand73 on May 26, 2004, 01:27:58 PM
No PANNI it is not a scarf!  Gidget!  I love them all, but especially IN ROME and GOES HAWAIIAN!
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: elmore3003 on May 26, 2004, 01:29:24 PM
Gidget, yes!  That is the ginchiest news of the day.  I am THERE, baby.

Well, Dear Friend, I'm much more excited about the john Huston MOULIN ROUGE release.  I've always loved the "Big Song," but when I finally saw the film, the song was in a different form with a different lyric!  I love both versions but find it peculiar.  The version in the film is probably closer in form to a popular chanson of the 1890s than the popular song version that became the hit of 1954(?).
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: elmore3003 on May 26, 2004, 01:31:13 PM
Well, Dear Friend, I'm much more excited about the john Huston MOULIN ROUGE release.  I've always loved the "Big Song," but when I finally saw the film, the song was in a different form with a different lyric!  I love both versions but find it peculiar.  The version in the film is probably closer in form to a popular chanson of the 1890s than the popular song version that became the hit of 1954(?).

I'm starting to sound like Gertrude Stein!
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: TCB on May 26, 2004, 01:43:44 PM
I'm starting to sound like Gertrude Stein!

Actually, elmore, I think Gertrude had a hat like that, too.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: elmore3003 on May 26, 2004, 01:45:52 PM
Actually, elmore, I think Gertrude had a hat like that, too.

Yes, but she was much more butch!
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: MBarnum on May 26, 2004, 01:46:23 PM
I am looking forward to seeing GIDGET GOES TO ROME...I think that is the one that has Noreen Corcoran from BACHELOR FATHER in it isn't it? I guess I should have checked IMDB before posting, huh! Well, anyway I love Noreen and one of these days I am going to interview that girl!
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: William E. Lurie on May 26, 2004, 01:50:47 PM
I wonder if they will move all the effects equipment from the Gershwin to Radio City Music Hall for "Defying Gravity", do the song without the effects or pre-tape it at the Gershwin.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Jason on May 26, 2004, 01:55:53 PM
They moved the flying equipment to the Ed Sullivan Theatre when they did the number on their David Letterman spot, so I'm pretty positive it will appear at the Tonys. What I'm wondering is if they'll schedule their performance first so Idina will have time to take her makeup off before her category near the end of the show...
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: elmore3003 on May 26, 2004, 02:01:35 PM
They moved the flying equipment to the Ed Sullivan Theatre when they did the number on their David Letterman spot, so I'm pretty positive it will appear at the Tonys. What I'm wondering is if they'll schedule their performance first so Idina will have time to take her makeup off before her category near the end of the show...

And then, again, maybe they'll show her green face backstage!
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: TCB on May 26, 2004, 02:18:48 PM
Some very interesting posts today regarding moments in history from a personal perspective.  I am still looking forward to reading Tomovoz's recollections regarding the parting of the Red Sea.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Sandra on May 26, 2004, 02:19:44 PM
Today's posts are kind of a downer.

I am no stranger to horrid sandwiches. Those frozen egg salad monstrosities, complete with egg shells, from the school cafeteria stand out in my mind.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Jrand73 on May 26, 2004, 02:25:02 PM
I love the Song from MOULIN ROUGE as well....and if I am not mistaken, Miss Zsa Zsa Gabor at one time had her basement recreation room decorated to match the bistro in the movie so she could make her entrance as she does en le cinema!

Of course, she would have to play the record since she didn't sing the song herself....
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Matt H. on May 26, 2004, 02:26:41 PM
I am one psyched guy right now. Just found out ASSASSINS was extended to August 1, so I immediately got on-line and ordered tickets.

So, my show line-up for July is:

Thursday night - WICKED
Friday night - THE BOY FROM OZ
Saturday matinee - AVENUE Q
Saturday night - ASSASSINS

;D   ;D   ;D
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: George on May 26, 2004, 02:29:20 PM
I had a feeling they would do "Defying Gravity" but I thought they'd also combine it with "Popular".  Chenowith has little to do in "DG".

Maybe that's an indicator of how things might turn out. ::)
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Ron Pulliam on May 26, 2004, 02:33:00 PM
In most TV performances of "Defying Gravity," when Chenoweth appeared with Menzel, they started with "I Hope You're Happy" which segued into "Defying Gravity."  Menzel had quite a bit more singing.

Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Jennifer on May 26, 2004, 02:34:49 PM
I am going crazy these days wanting to munch on food.  Does anybody have any ideas for low carb/ or healthy snacks that I can munch on?
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: JoseSPiano on May 26, 2004, 02:42:09 PM
Good Early Evening!

As for 9/11 - It was a Tuesday morning.  I just got up "early" for no particular reason and started watching the Today show.  -I had just gotten in the night before from a theatre convention, so I had planned to sleep in, but...  As soon as they went back to show the footage of the first plane...  I wasn't able to reach my parents in DC... However, I did get in touch with each of my brothers, and my aunt - who told me my father and mother were OK...  Most of all, I remember Steve being able to calm me down, and taking my mind off the gravity of the whole situation for a little bit - he got me away from the TV.

Princess Diana - I was working in Indiana... A lot of sadness among the cast and crew for a couple of days.

And on a brighter note...

I got my hairs cut - not too bad - but I think I've found a few "stragglers", which I'll take care of with my handy-dandy pair of scissors.  And I also bought some wonderful pastries from a new French-Vietnamese bakery.  YUM!!!

And now, it's off to the show!...

Laters...
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: SwishySarah on May 26, 2004, 02:44:06 PM
Hmm...being a youngin, I too was born long after Kennedy was assasinated. But my dad tells me that he got home from school, walked into the den, and my grandma was sitting on the floor in front of the television crying. He hadn't ever seen his mother cry before.

Diana: She was killed on my birthday, and I was having a sleepover with a bunch of friends. The Spice Girls were singing on SNL that night, so we were playing "Big Girls" and staying up to watch it. As they were being announced, the news anchor came on with the news. It was a sad birthday.

9/11: During school, people were being checked out by their parents all day long, until during my lunch block, there were eights people at my table that usually held 30. They wouldn't tell us what happened, but I remember walking by the main office and seeing the office ladies crowded around a TV crying, and I just walked in and sat down. They didn't stop me, and I saw the footage of the planes hitting the WTC. I wasn't completely familiar with what the buildings WERE, but it didn't mean the sigh of the people running and dying hurt any less. I was told not to make a scene about it, andn they made an announcement at the end of the school day.

Crime #1: I've seen people exchange drugs for money around midnight at a local gas station. We kept our mouths shut and left.

Crime #2: I took a pin from the shop at the Smithsonian once...I think I was 8, and my mom wouldn't buy it for me. I don't even know where it is.

Crime #3: I'd never ever pay for gas. That's a lot of money saved.

American Idol: I don't LIKE Fantasia, but out of the two, she's the better performer. Her last song was great last night. But ever since LaToya was kicked off, I've stopped caring who won. Fantasia will win, though. Even if she doesn't...oook at Clay Aiken. You see him everywhere...and what has Ruben been doing? Oh that's right...nothing!

Sick day today...I hate being dizzy.

I'm excited for the Tonys!
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Danise on May 26, 2004, 02:49:56 PM
Hi all!  I'm inbetween shows.  Just saw Aida (which made me cry) and am about to go get ready for Wicked.  

Something happened, about 15 cop cars went past me while I walking back to hotel.  I watched the first part of the news but I didn't see what it was.

It's turned a little cold (for me)  65.  Burrr.  I could kick myself for not bringing my coat.  Now I could have used it but the first few days were wonderful, weather wise.

Elmore called me again.  Thank you.  I still say it is nice beyond words to have such kindness from someone who only knew me from a board.

Jane, you too, you are a treasure.  :-)

Gotta run and go get ready for the show.

One full day left in NYC then it's home for me.  I am tired and ready to go home.  I don't think that has anything to do with what happened before, it's just been a long week of ups and downs and I'm plain tired for my own room/bed.

Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: William F. Orr on May 26, 2004, 02:50:58 PM
KRUL is lurk spelled backwards.  I make no apologies.  It takes all the reading you can do at this here site just to stay in the same place.  Oh, a Through the Looking Glass and What Alice Found There reference.

JFK Sr.  I was a sophomore at Caltech, and those in our student house had decided that there should be a reason for a party every day.  On the door of Stu and John's room was a big LET'S PARTY sign, and the reason was changed every day.

John had bought a bottle of Black & White, so when I left for Chem that morning it said, "It's Black & White Day!  LET'S PARTY!!"  I was tired that morning (maybe from the previous party), and so I decided to cut the math lecture and come back to my room to nap.  As I passed Stu and John's room I noticed the sign was missing.  I went in and asked, "Where's the holiday sign."

"It's not a holiday today," said John.  He and Stu were listening to the radio.  Kennedy had been shot, but no one knew yet if he was alive or dead.  Soon, other sophomores started drifting in from the math lecture which had been canceled.

I took it upon myself later in the day to contact the math professor and make sure everyone who lived on campus knew that that weekend's take-home exam had been canceled.

For the next few days the TV lounge was packed, but I wasn't too interested in watching all the details, until a huge "Whooop!!" arose from everyone in the lounge so loud it echoed through the building--Ruby had shot Oswald.

Hey, I was a Republican.  I didn't think I liked Kennedy.  But... this had never happened.  This was... See, that's what it was, an ellipsis.  Something just... broke.  And I can't think of a better way to express the feeling.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: TCB on May 26, 2004, 02:51:49 PM


As for 9/11 - It was a Tuesday morning.  I just got up "early" for no particular reason and started watching the Today show.  -I had just gotten in the night before from a theatre convention, so I had planned to sleep in, but...  As soon as they went back to show the footage of the first plane...  I wasn't able to reach my parents in DC... However, I did get in touch with each of my brothers, and my aunt - who told me my father and mother were OK...  Most of all, I remember Steve being able to calm me down, and taking my mind off the gravity of the whole situation for a little bit - he got me away from the TV.


Laters...

Personally, Jose, I think I would like to hear a few more details on how Steve took your mind off of the situation.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: William F. Orr on May 26, 2004, 02:59:54 PM
Some very interesting posts today regarding moments in history from a personal perspective.  I am still looking forward to reading Tomovoz's recollections regarding the parting of the Red Sea.

Oh yes, and my niece keeps asking if I remember when the asteroid killed the dinosaurs.   :-X
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Tomovoz on May 26, 2004, 03:01:55 PM
Well, Dear Friend, I'm much more excited about the john Huston MOULIN ROUGE release.  I've always loved the "Big Song," but when I finally saw the film, the song was in a different form with a different lyric!  I love both versions but find it peculiar.  The version in the film is probably closer in form to a popular chanson of the 1890s than the popular song version that became the hit of 1954(?).
The song lyrics came as a shock to me too - I had only remembered the Felicia Sanders version.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Jrand73 on May 26, 2004, 03:13:15 PM
I remember the Giselle McKenzie version....sung partially in French of course.

DRJOSE - not to confuse you, but the cast and crew of any show in Indiana often feel sad and confused, believe me.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Tomovoz on May 26, 2004, 03:16:36 PM
Some very interesting posts today regarding moments in history from a personal perspective.  I am still looking forward to reading Tomovoz's recollections regarding the parting of the Red Sea.
I was 10 years old at the time when my adoptive parents took me to see Cecil B part the sea. I was yet another child found in the bullrushes and thus was brought up to believe I had been chosen child rather than one of  the chosen people..
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: bk on May 26, 2004, 03:18:29 PM
Back from doing lots of errands including sending copies of the Kritzer books to my old friend Hef.  

Zsa Zsa is, of course, dubbed in the film (her singing), and she's quite bad in the acting department.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: bk on May 26, 2004, 03:20:37 PM
Used some store credit and snagged three new Criterion DVDs - Smiles of a Summer Nacht, The Tin Drum (which I've never seen, but which sounds interesting), and best of all, Mr. Fritz Lang's The Testament of Dr. Mabuse.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: bk on May 26, 2004, 03:20:47 PM
And one for Mahler.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: bk on May 26, 2004, 03:21:02 PM
Does anyone    still    wear    a     hat?
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: bk on May 26, 2004, 03:21:21 PM
Mahler still wears a hat in photographs.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Tomovoz on May 26, 2004, 03:27:18 PM
JFK: My penultimate year of Schooling before university entrance had just finished and I was in hospital just having had my nasal septum straightened. I remember inquiring as to why the hospital's flag was at half mast! I obviously had a view of it from the hospital window.
Di: I was visiting my mother in hospital after she has suffered a stoke.
Elvis: I was in the kitchen making tea when I heard the news
John Lennon: In the car driving home from work (School).
9/11: I awoke to the news on the radio.
Buddy Holly: I heard at school. "The Day The Music Died"
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: bk on May 26, 2004, 03:30:27 PM
Masada, the reading of which I attended, has cancelled its Chicago tryout.  Those who read my thoughts on the show know that I predicted this would happen.  They never had funding for this show, and the reading here was their attempt to get it.  I knew from the reaction they would not be getting it.  
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Jrand73 on May 26, 2004, 03:34:19 PM
Harold Prince talking on CSPAN right now.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Jrand73 on May 26, 2004, 03:35:08 PM
But she looks great on her way to Venus.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Jane on May 26, 2004, 03:36:14 PM

DRs Panni, Beekay Jay & Jane. (hope I got that right!), we watched "Trembling Before God" last night. Certainly food for thought (not necessarily kosher either). I felt so much for those people. I find it incomprehensible that any Religion would "speak for God" and put themselves "above God" in casting judgement on others.  Thank God I'm not a member of any religious organisation. I think it is often the case that organised religion corrupts the purity in love of God.


Tomovoz, I ‘m interested, but haven’t seen "Trembling Before G—d” yet.   If you want a discussion on organized religion, Keith is the one to talk to.  I still remember the day we had our pre-wedding interview with my family rabbi.  He asked Keith a question regarding his Jewish beliefs.  I never expected Keith’s answer, not that I didn’t know how he felt-just didn’t expect him to tell the rabbi.  To my horror Keith went on about the evils (my gross exaggeration) of organized region.    What was to be a short visit turned into a long discussion between the two of them.  As we left, to my great relief, the rabbi said how much he enjoyed their conversation.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Ron Pulliam on May 26, 2004, 03:43:44 PM
A Stritch in time...
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Ron Pulliam on May 26, 2004, 03:47:51 PM
I was in 10th grade band class (5th period) when the Asst. Principal announced over the PA system that Kennedy had been shot.  We were directed to go to our 6th period classes and wait for further word.

Shortly afterward, we learned the President was dead and we were dismissed.  It seems to me it was a Thursday.  But it may have been a Wednesday.  I know I did not return to school until the first Monday after the funeral (the day after Oswald was murdered).

Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Charles Pogue on May 26, 2004, 03:50:32 PM
Panni, I do some of my best thinking in the bathroom.  Particularly in the tub.  I like long hot soaks.  And I read in the tub.  As well as the other obvious spot.  But it seems that nobody else does or at least they're not owning up to it.  You're the only one who's even answered the question.

REALITY CHECK, PEOPLE!  Remembering where you were when Kennedy was shot IS NOT quite the same thing as when Kennedy Jr. died.  The one was a genuine tragedy and national calamity (whether you liked him or not) and the other was...I'm sorry...an unfortunate incident.  But Dad WAS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES WHO WAS ASSASSINATED.  Jr. was a nice enough rich guy who wrecked his plane.  What were his accomplishments that his death should have the same weight and memory factor as his father's?  He started a magazine that nobody I know reads and he apparently had a dubious marriage. Not quite the same thing as Dad on the scale of things. I have no idea where I was when I heard the news he died.  The world did not stop for me that day.  It ain't up there with JFK's assassination or 9/11.

For JFK, I was in eight grade sixth period English.  School was about to let out.  The principal came on over the intercom with the announcement.  Patty Martin sitting next to me broke out weeping.  Everyone else was in subdued shock.  They still held the football game that night (Nothing stops Fort Thomas football), though they did observe a moment of silence before the game started.  The rest of the weekend and part of next week was watching TV.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Charles Pogue on May 26, 2004, 03:51:46 PM
RLP, It was Friday, I'm pretty sure, because of the football game that night at my high school.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Charles Pogue on May 26, 2004, 03:56:13 PM
Does anyone remember the song that Nancy Ames(?) sang about the Kennedy Assassination on THAT WAS THE WEEK THAT WAS..? And whatever happened to her?
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Jrand73 on May 26, 2004, 04:04:34 PM
I remember the idea of the song...hmmmmmm....Nancy Ames, wasn't she married to someone equally semi-famous?

Yes, I was a Friday...and I remember because our basketball game - the first of the season was cancelled.

Did a quick search....TW3 didn't premiere its American version until January, 1964.  But the British version of TW3 concerning the Kennedy assassination was broadcast on American television, maybe that is what we are thinking about.

I do think there was a moment at the time of the MLK Jr and/or Robert Kennedy assassinations that Ames sang a particularly moving folk song, but I sure don't remember what it was.

Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Jrand73 on May 26, 2004, 04:16:56 PM
Ames and her husband Danny Ward (?) run an event planning service in Houston and she and her daughter sell their jewelry designs on the web.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Tomovoz on May 26, 2004, 04:16:56 PM
Only remember "In The Summer Of His Years". Connie Francis made the Top 40 here with her version. I think Margaret Whiting also sang it.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: George on May 26, 2004, 04:17:43 PM
Harold Prince talking on CSPAN right now.

What did he talk about?? Inquiring (or is it Enquiring?) minds want to know!

I wasn't born when JFK (the President) was shot and I don't remember what specifically I was doing when either of the space shuttles went down.

All I remember about Diana's death was that I really felt a loss.  I don't know why.  I never really paid much attention to news about her.  I really did respect her after she started charity work.  The summer after my freshman year in high school (1980), my dad drove my sister and I to visit his sisters in California (both of whom will be visiting in July!) and we watched the wedding at my Aunt Mary Lou's house.  Watching ALL of the news of her death was very surreal.

When the two towers (not a Lord of the Rings reference) were hit, I was living with my sister and she had the news on her radio.  She heard the announcement of the first one being hit and turned the TV.  I was still asleep but she started yelling, "Oh my God...Oh my God..." and that woke me up.  We watched the TV for a couple of hours and I went into work late.  Wherever I went that day and over the next few days, everyone was talking about it.  A locally produced fundraiser revue that I was going to usher for was cancelled.  (And sadly, that theater group eventually folded.  This was going to be their last big push for money.)  A couple of other shows had been cancelled, also.  Things didn't get back to "normal" for quite a while.  My ex-boyfriend (we're still good friends) is very sensitive to tragedies and really took it hard.  He cried quite a bit that first week after it happened.  I don't know why it affected him so deeply...he really didn't either.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Jrand73 on May 26, 2004, 04:19:24 PM
Buy this jewelry now.  ;D


http://www.alfarodesigns.net/html/about.htm (http://www.alfarodesigns.net/html/about.htm)
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Jrand73 on May 26, 2004, 04:20:52 PM
DRGEORGE he was answering questions from students from the Cobble School in New York about theatre.  He had to ask many of the kids to repeat their questions because he couldn't understand what they were saying, and I did almost expect him to ask one young girl to take the gum out of her mouth.

Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Jennifer on May 26, 2004, 04:22:04 PM
BK what do you do with your dvds after you watch them? Bring them back to the store?

RE: reading in the bathroom

I wonder if it's more a man thing.  I would never think of reading a book in there.  Although occasionally I will read a bit of the newspaper.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: George on May 26, 2004, 04:34:35 PM
As for "reading material," I don't keep any in my bathroom.  If I'm somewhere that does have some, I usually do look through what's there.  But I don't need any reading material...no matter how long it may take. ::)
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: George on May 26, 2004, 04:42:54 PM
Bruce have you ever sold anything on eBay?  If you have, do you sell things regularly?  Do you buy things very often on eBay (assuming that you do at all)?  What do you (or anyone else) think of the new "My eBay" design?  I think it's too cluttered.  The type is a bit too large for the amount of room and the "My eBay Views" column on the left wastes space, since that column is empty (and unused) after the first screen.

And this is Post #1111 for me!
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Jrand73 on May 26, 2004, 04:49:19 PM
I don't like the NEW Ebay.....but I guess I can get used to it.

I don't read in the bathroom.  I used to read the newspaper now and then, but for some reason, I like reading in bed now....might be an age thing.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Jed on May 26, 2004, 04:56:47 PM
REALITY CHECK, PEOPLE!  Remembering where you were when Kennedy was shot IS NOT quite the same thing as when Kennedy Jr. died.  The one was a genuine tragedy and national calamity (whether you liked him or not) and the other was...I'm sorry...an unfortunate incident.

I don't think anybody here is saying that the one really compares to the other, but are simply remembering these times that seem to stick out in our memories.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Charles Pogue on May 26, 2004, 05:09:09 PM
Jed, but I didn't even find JFK,Jr.'s death that momentus that it would even stick in my head.  It's what I hate about 24 hour news stations.  Now to pad out the time when there just isn't anything earth-shattering, they blow up small events into big news.

I remember a few years back some golfer died in a plane crash or something and they covered his funeral and everything...you would have thought JFK had been shot all over again.  Same with that race car driver's death.  Suddenly all things have the same weight because the news channels have time to fill.  And lightweight, small stories are sensationalized long past their legitimate newsworthiness.

Walter Cronkite used to be able to give me all the important news in a half hour.  I liked it that way.  I could fill in any details with a newspaper.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: bk on May 26, 2004, 05:23:59 PM
I do sell things on eBay from time to time, and I do purchase from time to time.  But not like in the old days back in 1997, when I discovered it.  I was so hooked back then that I would buy ANYTHING.  I bought a Tiffany teapot for reasons which I can't fathom, but which I still have.  In those days you could really get some bargains.  There was a two year period where there were no bargains to be had, especially art-wise and book-wise, because the dealers took over the room.  Horrible.  Dealers are still there in droves preventing things from going too low.  I really despise them, actually, and have written more than a few of them to let them know.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: bk on May 26, 2004, 05:28:34 PM
Whoa, I say whoa, I say whoa - what just happened to everybody?  Everyone disappeared at once whilst I was posting.  How unseemly.  Did everyone take a bathroom break at exactly the same time?

As those who've read Kritzer Time know, I had a rather strange reaction to the death of Kennedy.  And, if you have the book, just look and you'll find the day that it happened.

As to Kennedy, Jr. I had no idea who he even was, other than the President's son.  I don't really see why his death is any sadder than anyone else who died at a similar age.  Just because he had celebrity?  I never really understand this sort of thing.  
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Jed on May 26, 2004, 05:34:20 PM
Jed, but I didn't even find JFK,Jr.'s death that momentus that it would even stick in my head.  It's what I hate about 24 hour news stations.  Now to pad out the time when there just isn't anything earth-shattering, they blow up small events into big news.

I remember a few years back some golfer died in a plane crash or something and they covered his funeral and everything...you would have thought JFK had been shot all over again.  Same with that race car driver's death.  Suddenly all things have the same weight because the news channels have time to fill.  And lightweight, small stories are sensationalized long past their legitimate newsworthiness.

Walter Cronkite used to be able to give me all the important news in a half hour.  I liked it that way.  I could fill in any details with a newspaper.

Well said, CP, and I agree.  I was simply saying that I truly don't believe anybody around here is really saying that Jr.'s death was as big an event as Sr.'s, it's just that (mostly due to the excessive media coverage) many of us do happen to recall hearing about it.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: bk on May 26, 2004, 05:41:00 PM
Have I mentioned that the new Juliana Journal entry is up?  Check eet out.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: bk on May 26, 2004, 06:01:19 PM
Five dear readers just sitting there like so much fish for fifteen minutes.  How unseemly.  
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: George on May 26, 2004, 06:08:07 PM
Five dear readers just sitting there like so much fish for fifteen minutes.  How unseemly.

Ya want fish?  How's this for fish:

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Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Jane on May 26, 2004, 06:12:12 PM
I was in junior high, Louis Pasteur, ninth grade pin and camera day.

Palms Jr. High and Louis Pasteur apparently had the same Camera Day on the same date.  I was in the gym class office talking to my favorite teacher, Ms Gardner, when a student returned from a dentist appointment with the news Kennedy and been shot.  The teacher & I laughed saying she must be mistaken, at which point the principle came on the loud speaker.  At the time I wished the school had cancelled our 9th grade camera day.  In retrospect I realize it gave us the opportunity to be in shock as a group.

I went to a friend’s house to watch the funeral.  When I arrived she noted I was dressed all in black.  Up until that moment I had not realized what I had put on that day.

Penny & Keith were at Louis Pasteur together so I just asked Keith where he was that day.  He said he was walking down the stairwell, in 10th grade, no it must have at Pasteur-he is still thinking about it.  Now he is doing the math to figure it out.  He says it must have been at Pasteur walking down the stairway.  I am finding his lack of memory very funny.  :D I guess he was late to camera day.

Me do anything wrong?  Gosh never.  I was a perfect angel. ;)  Of course Keith isn’t here to correct that statement and make fun of me, just as I did to him.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: S. Woody White on May 26, 2004, 06:15:25 PM
My question for the day:  Do you keep reading literature in your bathroom? Some titles, please...
Nada.  None.  Big zero.  Zilch.  But that's more because we don't have a storage space for reading material in our bathroom.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: S. Woody White on May 26, 2004, 06:17:06 PM
I've been through the crime victim bit here on the board before.  Do a search.

And I'm not the type to try being a criminal.  Other than the sort that some ignorant pols want me listed as being.  Their loss.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Jane on May 26, 2004, 06:18:40 PM

I'm not sure who it was that ever came up with the bright idea of dinner theatre, but I don't think they liked actors.  I mean, they're asking people who's average age is death, to come, sit down, eat a big, warm meal and then sit in the same seat and watch a show in the dark for two hours, which means they're bound to nod off.  Then at the end of show, just when you think you've gotten a standing o, you realize they're just getting up to put their coats on because they're afraid the bus is going to leave without them.


Now I know why the seats at our cabaret theater are so uncomfortable.  No one could fall asleep in these things.  Of course they are one of the reasons I go to a restaurant before the show instead of eating there.  They do have a special ice cream dessert we enjoy.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: S. Woody White on May 26, 2004, 06:19:15 PM
Tiring day at work, but satisfying.  We had a big delivery of stuff arrive, and spent the whole day unloading/inventorying/price-tagging/shelving.  So exciting.  But at the same time good to get under the belt, this first time.

The big weekend is coming fast.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: S. Woody White on May 26, 2004, 06:28:36 PM
The tragedy in the space program for me was when the three Apollo 1 astronauts died in their space capsule during a practice launch.  That was worse to me because, first of all it was the first-time we had actually lost a crew, and secondly because two of the astronauts were already well-known to all of us: Gus Grissom, the second American in space; and Ed White, the first American to walk in space.  Of course, I may have been more familiar with the space program than most kids, because my Mom made sure that I got up and watched the launch of each and every mission starting with Alan Shepard until sometime during the Apollo program when I was in high school.
By the time of Apollo I, I was already well familiar with not just the astronauts, but the test pilots who had preceeded them (and flew concurrantly).  My father worked with the test pilots, knew them quite well.  Several of them were invited to our home for dinner.

My father tried to harden himself, to not be emotional when one of his friends died.  He never was successful at this task.  It took him a long time before he could turn to the rest of the family, at those times when he needed us.  The rest is too private.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: S. Woody White on May 26, 2004, 06:43:40 PM
Hey, I was a Republican.  I didn't think I liked Kennedy.  But... this had never happened.  This was... See, that's what it was, an ellipsis.  Something just... broke.  And I can't think of a better way to express the feeling.
I still am a Republican.  Worst day of my life was August 17th, 1990, my birthday as it happens.  Pat Buchanan and Pat Robertson decided to hijack the party that night at the Republican Convention, declaring a "culture war."  

I have no intention of switching over and becoming a Democrat.  I still seriously believe and hope that my party can turn away from the bigoted extremism that has dogged it these last decades, so don't expect me to blandly accept demands that I become a leftist.  But I also know what it means to be betrayed.

Let's leave it at that, for now.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: S. Woody White on May 26, 2004, 06:46:45 PM
Masada, the reading of which I attended, has cancelled its Chicago tryout....
Geez, I read that first world and thought you were going to tell us of memories of the original... :o
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Kerry on May 26, 2004, 06:51:42 PM
Hi Boys and Girls!  

It's nice to see you all again.  I've been mighty busy, and I'll get busier.  I start a new job tomorrow and am quite anxious.  The money is much better, but I'll be back in an office.  OY!   I will be working again with a close friend, so that part will be good.  And I know one of the secretaries there, so it will nice to see her again.  But this is stuff I haven't done in 10 years, and I'm hoping it will all come back to me (like the provebial riding of a bicycle-- which DOES indeed come back to you.)

Wish me luck.

I'll keep you posted.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Robin on May 26, 2004, 06:51:43 PM
I still am a Republican.  Worst day of my life was August 17th, 1990, my birthday as it happens.

Does this mean you're only thirteen?  
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: S. Woody White on May 26, 2004, 06:56:00 PM
Does this mean you're only thirteen?  
That would make der Brucer twenty-eight...and we know what HIS crime would be if that were the case!
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: William E. Lurie on May 26, 2004, 06:56:35 PM
BK ---
The reason I asked the Dear Readers about the Kennedy assassination and not you was that I already knew Benjamin's experience and I figured yours was pretty much the same.  I was touched at all the replies.  Maybe there is a book in there someplace.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: S. Woody White on May 26, 2004, 06:56:37 PM
Time to go make cookies.  Our house is cookieless.   :-\
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Jane on May 26, 2004, 06:59:40 PM
Jed, but I didn't even find JFK,Jr.'s death that momentus that it would even stick in my head.  It's what I hate about 24 hour news stations.  Now to pad out the time when there just isn't anything earth-shattering, they blow up small events into big news.

I remember a few years back some golfer died in a plane crash or something and they covered his funeral and everything...you would have thought JFK had been shot all over again.  Same with that race car driver's death.  Suddenly all things have the same weight because the news channels have time to fill.  And lightweight, small stories are sensationalized long past their legitimate newsworthiness.

Walter Cronkite used to be able to give me all the important news in a half hour.  I liked it that way.  I could fill in any details with a newspaper.

Very true, yet having watched Jr. grow up, it was very sad.  I can’t tell you what I was doing when I heard the news.  I do recall watching when his uncle was shot.  Keith had just dropped my off at my apartment, only minutes from his house.  By the time he walked in the phone was ringing & I was giving him the sad news.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Jane on May 26, 2004, 07:09:19 PM
LOL, I do not keep reading literature in my bathroom.

I was home watching both space shuttles on T.V.  The first one we lived in Pennsylvania and I recall calling Keith at work to tell him what happened.  I also recall hoping the children weren’t watching it at school, and they weren’t.  Having recently been present at a discussion by an astronaut which included a slide show, both boys had decided to become astronauts.  Our younger son immediately said “no way”.


911:  I was busy getting ready for my book discussion at my house so did not even have the radio on. Our younger son was taking a friend to the San Francisco airport that morning so he was up early and called us.  He reassured me my niece was okay.  Later I had to call him to say her roommate, whom he knew, was missing.  Finally my niece thought to call her friend’s mother & found she was okay but having trouble getting home.  My older son was just about to move from here to Portland.  Most of his friends had moved to NY and he spent most of the day trying to reach him.  He did find out his best friend of fine, once again thanks to a call the mother in Michigan.  It’s nice to know the first thing these kids did was to call home.  

Kerry, GOOD VIBES at your new job!
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: PennyO on May 26, 2004, 07:25:29 PM
Oh, what a lovely partay is shaping up for next Tuesday! early evening drinks and banter among sundried Hainsies! Jane, get on a plane! BK, we will roast you in absentia. You can bet each of us will scribble, scribble, scribble our delight for the HHW denizens before nodding off to sleep. Oh, what fun this will be! Thanks, DRElmore for suggesting a get-together. Can't wait!

Now, to dye the white roots...
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Jane on May 26, 2004, 07:31:22 PM
Penny, I am tempted but busy getting ready to see my boys next month.  Maybe you can return in October. :)

Goodnight all.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Noel on May 26, 2004, 07:39:13 PM
I, too, read in the bathroom, sometimes while luxuriating in extremely hot baths.  I'd tell you the reading material in there now but it might offend the author.

The deli on 72nd Street is Fine & Shapiro's.  Venerable.

Tuesday night, we're having an early dinner with the fellow I think is about to win the Tony for best score.

And, it's all Godspell all the time from here on in for me.  Performances are Sunday at 8, Monday at 2 & 8.  No tickets, free, you just walk in to The Circle in the Square (where Frozen usually plays) and enjoy.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: bk on May 26, 2004, 08:17:01 PM
Back from a yummilicious dinner.  Caesar salad and garlic chicken pasta in cream sauce.  Now I must vomit.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Matt H. on May 26, 2004, 08:24:14 PM
Since Noel Coward talks about his role in PARIS WHEN IT SIZZLES in his diaries, I pulled that off the shelf and watched it again today. Such a shame that a potentially witty and intriguing idea was squandered in a fairly limp way. There were bits of fun and romance, but I can certainly see why the film was a disaster at the box-office. GAMBIT was ever so much cleverer (with plots circling back on themselves), and TWO FOR THE ROAD a genuine masterpiece in non-linear storytelling.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Matt H. on May 26, 2004, 08:27:23 PM
AMERICAN IDOL:

eh......... :-\
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Matt H. on May 26, 2004, 08:30:05 PM
Before I started watching network TV tonight, I stuck in another of the Marilyn Monroe supporting role films: WE'RE NOT MARRIED. I remember her segment well, but I couldn't for the life of me remember how the Louis Calhern/Zsa Zsa Gabor story ended.

The mastering job on that film was very sharp.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: JoseSPiano on May 26, 2004, 08:42:49 PM
Good Evening!

Good show tonight.  And the A/C in the theatre is finally working at it's full potential, so to speak.  I can start bringing a sweater again like I used to!

As for reading in the bathroom... I'm not one for baths... never really have been... and when I have taken a bath, reading is usually the last thing on my mind. ;-)

As for reading "while sitting down"... Well, one of my uncles is a gastroenterologist, and he - as well as other medical experts - advise against reading in the bathroom.  For some people, spending that much time in the bathroom can cause problems.  -I'll leave it at that.

OK - I need some ice cream... back in a bit..
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Panni on May 26, 2004, 08:49:19 PM
Jennifer - Reading in the bathroom is not just a guy thing. I love to read in the bathroom. I also love to luxuriate in the tub. Alas, I do not at the moment have a tub. When I did, I used to turn off the lights, put on music, light candles, soak and think.  Ahhhhhhh....So relaxing....
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Panni on May 26, 2004, 08:51:49 PM
As for reading "while sitting down"... Well, one of my uncles is a gastroenterologist, and he - as well as other medical experts - advise against reading in the bathroom.  For some people, spending that much time in the bathroom can cause problems.  -I'll leave it at that.

I give up! Is there ANYTHING that isn't bad for you! :P
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Panni on May 26, 2004, 08:56:20 PM




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Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Panni on May 26, 2004, 09:20:47 PM
I'm putting off watching some cartoons I need to watch by coming to the site to read interesting posts. And all I see is ME. Most unseemly.  
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Panni on May 26, 2004, 09:32:19 PM
Here I am again. I got my history channel DVDs for Emmy consideration today. A propos of today's discussion, two of the DVDs are FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION, a behind the scenes look at the early years of NASA; and JFK: A PRESIDENCY REVEALED.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: JoseSPiano on May 26, 2004, 09:34:57 PM
Well, lo and behold... I'm sleepy, I'm tired, my eyelids are getting heavy... And it's not even 4:00AM yet?!?!?!

Time to catch the ZZZs while they're in reach right now...

Goodnight.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: TCB on May 26, 2004, 09:57:16 PM

REALITY CHECK, PEOPLE!  Remembering where you were when Kennedy was shot IS NOT quite the same thing as when Kennedy Jr. died.  The one was a genuine tragedy and national calamity (whether you liked him or not) and the other was...I'm sorry...an unfortunate incident.  But Dad WAS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES WHO WAS ASSASSINATED.  Jr. was a nice enough rich guy who wrecked his plane.  What were his accomplishments that his death should have the same weight and memory factor as his father's?  He started a magazine that nobody I know reads and he apparently had a dubious marriage. Not quite the same thing as Dad on the scale of things. I have no idea where I was when I heard the news he died.  The world did not stop for me that day.  It ain't up there with JFK's assassination or 9/11.


Charles, WEL's original question was lost on a great number of our younger members because they weren't born when President Kennedy was assassinated.  Little by little the (unofficial) topic of the day was expanded to include other events that stand out in people's mind.  JFK Jr. just happened to be one of that eclectic mix of people known as celebrities.  Being a celebrity does not require anyone to do anything more earth shattering than being famous.  And whether or not you like it, he was very famous.  From his romping with his father in the Oval Office, to his salute to his deceased father on the steps of the U.S. Capitol, to his barechested touch football games in Central Park, to his founding of George Magazine, and finally to his very death; everything JFK Jr. did made headlines.  Someone once described him as America's child, and I suppose and in some ways that was true.  To his credit, he never seemed to seek the limelight, but in everything he did, the limelight sought him out.  In a world where most second-generation celebrities seem to make headlines for drunken driving or drug arrests, it was rather refreshing to see someone make headlines by failing the New York Bar Exam.

Personally, I can remember where I was when I first heard that Marilyn Monroe died, Sal Mineo was murdered, George Reeves (Superman) committed suicide and Sharon Tate and friends were brutally slaughtered.  If I were a few years older, I would probably remember where I was when I heard that James Dean had died.  This does not mean that I consider any of those people to have had a life even one-tenth as important as President Kennedy, or that their deaths should be mentioned in the same breath as the events of 9/11.  I don’t know if the problem stems from 24-hour news channels or why it is that we, in this day and age of terrorism and war, still obsess on what Jennifer Aniston wears to the premiere of TROY, but I doubt that deep-down we are any different than any other generation.  The “celebrities” who perished on the Titanic were famous, for the most part, because they were rich, but in the world of 1912 that was enough reason for thousands to weep at their loss, while forgetting the countless others who also died that night in the North Atlantic.  Many people in that age knew absolutely nothing about the life and career of John Jacob Astor, but they mourned his death just the same – because he was an Astor.  I don't think that is much different than some of us rememberring where we were when we first heard that John John had died.

Sorry,  I guess I am rambling.  I just don’t think that the people at this site are any different than the rest of the world (except that we are vastly more intelligent, better looking, and are far more talented).



Sorry, BK, I should have made every sentence a separate post.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: bk on May 26, 2004, 10:04:09 PM
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Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: MBarnum on May 26, 2004, 10:05:09 PM
Very well said TCB!
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Ann on May 26, 2004, 10:08:45 PM
Hear hear, TCB
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Ann on May 26, 2004, 10:11:56 PM
Being one of those who wasn't yet born when Kennedy was shot..

9/11 - I had just gotten out of the shower, getting ready for geology class...we had a field tirp to a cemetery that day, I remember thinking that ironic.  My mother called me and told me to drop what I was doing and turn on the TV, that i was about to see history in the making.  I tuned in right before the second plane it, and I watched it happen.  Surreal, that's what I remember it being.

Diana - My friend Althea told me...we were at the county fair one night, and she had heard it on the radio in the fair office.  
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Ann on May 26, 2004, 10:15:20 PM
Honestly don't remember what i was doing when I heard about Kennedy Jr.  I remember seeing the newspapers with the headlines about it...but that was well after the event itself
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Panni on May 26, 2004, 10:23:25 PM
Let's hear something cheerful! Like the first time you ate marzipan. Yummy.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Jason on May 26, 2004, 10:25:14 PM
Shakalaka, TCB! Well said.

It's getting late-ish and I should be in bed right now--especially considering I overslept this morning. It's raining again in NYC and is suppose to storm again tomorrow night... BLEH!

Goodnight, all...sweet dreams. And let's have a perkier topic of the day tomorrow!
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: TCB on May 26, 2004, 10:29:36 PM
Let's hear something cheerful! Like the first time you ate marzipan. Yummy.


I hate marzipan!



Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Tomovoz on May 26, 2004, 10:47:24 PM
Indeed well said TCB. But I'll vote for marzipan.
It does depend on our age at the time we hear of the deaths of the famous. I felt nothing when Princess Di died. Then I felt for her sons.
The deaths of Presley and Lennon were the deaths of the links to childhood. Buddy Holly's death was the first "Famous" death that I really aware of - James Dean was no-one to me. (until later!)
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Jed on May 26, 2004, 10:48:41 PM
Hate to bring the mood down even more, but I've never had marzipan!
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Tomovoz on May 26, 2004, 10:52:00 PM
I've been out shopping. "Priscilla", "Blue Velvet" and "The Inspector General" came home with me. An odd threesome!
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: George on May 26, 2004, 10:52:09 PM
I give up! Is there ANYTHING that isn't bad for you! :P

Uhh...there's always HHW! ::)
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Tomovoz on May 26, 2004, 10:52:38 PM
I think Marzipan was one of the strippers in "Gypsy"
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: George on May 26, 2004, 10:54:43 PM
Hate to bring the mood down even more, but I've never had marzipan!

I think opinions for and against marzipan have been discussed...ad nausium (if you'll pardon the pun), since some people here at HHW do not like it.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: George on May 26, 2004, 10:59:23 PM
I must be off to beddie-by-land.  At 8:00 a.m., I have a meeting to go to and I usually don't even wake up until 8:00 a.m.!  It's to see a demonstration for a potential new computer system for our library.  I hate it when we have to TOTALLY change the computer system.  It takes much, much, much (that's three muches) time to learn it and get back up to the speed of the old system.  Good night all!
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Panni on May 26, 2004, 11:06:33 PM
I think opinions for and against marzipan have been discussed...ad nausium (if you'll pardon the pun), since some people here at HHW do not like it.

Some people ain't me! (a Gypsy reference)

And some people are so WRONG. Because marzipan is better than anything (except may Wiener Schnitzel).
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: Jed on May 26, 2004, 11:17:33 PM
I must be off to beddie-by-land.  At 8:00 a.m., I have a meeting to go to and I usually don't even wake up until 8:00 a.m.!  It's to see a demonstration for a potential new computer system for our library.  I hate it when we have to TOTALLY change the computer system.  It takes much, much, much (that's three muches) time to learn it and get back up to the speed of the old system.  Good night all!

Alright, my former-library-employee nerdiness has to ask...  What system are you currently running, and which is it you may change to?
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: William F. Orr on May 26, 2004, 11:20:24 PM
I still am a Republican.  Worst day of my life was August 17th, 1990, my birthday as it happens.  Pat Buchanan and Pat Robertson decided to hijack the party that night at the Republican Convention, declaring a "culture war."  

Are you sure about the year, young lad?  That wasn't, how you say, a Presidential election year.

Howsomever, what I recall vividly about that convention was that the "Theme Song" of the convention--perhaps influenced by "Hello Lyndon" in 1964--was "The Best of Times".  And I wondered if Jerry Herman was having a fit hearing his song played over and over, interspersed with virulent gay-bashing rhetoric.  Did the organizers of the Convention even know the origin of the song and the irony therein?

As to our DRs Swoody and Der B. being well-known in these parts as active Republicans, all I can say is more power to you in winning back your Party from the forces of darkness.  Gee, I remember when the Republican Party stood for fiscal responsibility...

9/11:  I thought I had posted at length on this site at the time, checked the archives, and learned that haineshisway was but a gleam in the eye of BK then.
How time do fly.

I was at work early, as is my wont, and Joe called me because his sister had called and told him to put on the TV.  I soon found one of the other professors had a set in his office, and the building was all abuzz.  I told Joe I would have to stay till 10:45 to tell my students class was canceled.

A student knocked on my office door and asked very shyly if I would mind awfully much if she didn't come to class that day--her mother worked in the WTC.  I just told her to be careful getting home and said a prayer.  The rest of the week, I kept scanning the lists of the missing on the Internet for her mother's name.  Fortunately, she got out in time.

My friend Debby was frantic, because her brother had an appointment at the WTC at 9 that morning, and it wasn't until a couple of days later that she managed to talk to him in the city and learn he had overslept for his appointment.

My Joe's sister Barbara worked a couple of blocks away from the towers, and we didn't learn she was okay for a couple of nail-biting days.

I stayed around the office until I was sure the art teacher, who lived in the Village with his wife and infant daughter, had a place to stay on the Island--another faculty member from the city who had a summer home out here.

Then I got on the side roads to drive home, not trusting people's driving on the Parkway.

I think Joe and I just hugged and thanked G*d for each other through the weekend.  I do remember having panic feelings every time I heard a plane fly over for weeks after that.

And exactly two weeks to the day later, the MacBeths were banigng on our door threatening our lives, and Joe panicked and foolishly went outside with his father's shotgun, and...  but that's another story.
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: TCB on May 26, 2004, 11:53:18 PM
Some people ain't me! (a Gypsy reference)

And some people are so WRONG. Because marzipan is better than anything (except may Wiener Schnitzel).

Wasn't he Col. Klink on HOGAN'S HEROES?
Title: Re:THE HORRID SANDWICH
Post by: bk on May 26, 2004, 11:55:24 PM
No more wire marzipan ever.