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Title: IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: bk on February 27, 2004, 12:00:57 AM
Surprise - you've read the notes, you've imagined my surprise and I've imagined loads of lovely postings, so to it, I say.
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: Charles Pogue on February 27, 2004, 12:09:27 AM
The lovely wife, Julieanne and I just got back from a lovely repast at Harlan and Susan Ellison's house.  Also breaking bread with us was author/comic book writer Neil Gaiman.
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: Tomovoz on February 27, 2004, 12:27:28 AM
We have been watching the episodes of "Cambridge Spies" on DVD this week. Wonderful viewing.
CD player.
Thanks to exposter Allan from the UK have been introduced to the wonderful Katie Melua "Call Off the Search". a #1 album in the UK and IMHO so much more interesting than the much bought and lauded Nora Jones. From the same source a very interesting album "Encounter" by Amick Byram. Newest purchase,which I have yet to play, is the "Best Of David Bowie"
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: S. Woody White on February 27, 2004, 12:47:20 AM
I hope you'll forgive us, esteemed BK, if der Brucer and I don't make it to the Bookfellows event this time.  It seems we're no longer local yokels.  On the other hand, if you were to have a reading and signing here in Delaware, or even in DC or Philly or Baltimore, I'm sure we'd be there will pantaloons and pointy hats and cookies!

As for what we're CDing and DVDing, der Brucer has our main stereo system set up (at last), so we've been juggling almost everything into the players, to make sure everything sounds the way it should.  It does.
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: elmore3003 on February 27, 2004, 03:52:59 AM
Good morning.  Yesterday was a very frustrating day, but we'll see how today goes.

BK asked what's in my various toys around the apartment:

DVD:  28 DAYS LATER

CD:  Wicked (OCR)
       The Marco Polo Soundtrack to ROBIN HOOD
       Offenbach:  La Belle Helene

VCR:  BEST IN SHOW

I may be E&T for the next week, finishing up a singer's act for a cruise to the Mediterranean.  I'd rather be sailing.
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: Michael on February 27, 2004, 04:04:39 AM
Would like to make a correction in today's note.

Sam Jaffe did not win an oscar for Asphlat Jungle

The category that year:

Best Actor in a Supporting Role
 
Winner:
All About Eve (1950) - George Sanders
 
Other Nominees:
Asphalt Jungle, The (1950) - Sam Jaffe
Broken Arrow (1950) - Jeff Chandler
Mister 880 (1950) - Edmund Gwenn
Sunset Blvd. (1950) - Erich von Stroheim


Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: Michael on February 27, 2004, 04:06:43 AM
CD Player: The King and I (Donna Murphy/BK produced album)

Nothing in DVD player.
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: Michael on February 27, 2004, 04:08:38 AM
Have a question about TiVo.

Is this a subscription service like cable tv or a satellite dish and if so how does this machine actually work?
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: Lulu on February 27, 2004, 04:55:49 AM
DR Charles Pogue, I am as jealous of you as I know how to be!  I've met Neil Gaiman a couple of times, now, but still have yet to even be in the same room with HE.  You must regale us with tales of the bread-breaking.  If nothing very interesting happened, invent something!

CD: The Beatles Revolver
VCR: For Me and My Gal
DVD: 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea

Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: Lulu on February 27, 2004, 05:02:21 AM
C'mon, Jrand and Ben *nudge*

What's in y'all's players?
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: Jrand73 on February 27, 2004, 05:03:00 AM
My what a lovely bunch of posts yesterday!  Everything...just everything!  ;D

I like peanut butter and maple syrup!  Hold the mayo, DRMBARNUM!

*Sigh* everytime DRCHARLESPOGUE talks about dining with Mr Harlan Ellison....what sparkling conversation must flow....  DR CP - please let him know that his book THE GLASS TEAT is STILL the best collection of television criticism I have EVER read...and that is an opinion I formed as a 15 year old...and it has NEVER changed - I still have my battered paperback copy!   :D

And DRCP made my day...I have had three plays produced, I have had articles published on the internet, AND I am on the Masthead of Scarlet Street magazine...I AM a writer----THEY said so!   ;)

Because I am working on LOVING LUCY my media is consumed by All Things Ball:

DVD: I Love Lucy - The Lost Pilot, 1st DVD in the First Season Set!

VCR:  Lucy Desi Comedy Hour with Danny Thomas...Lucy Ricardo in BED with Danny Williams?  You betcha....and Kathy walks in!  God Bless Marjorie Lord....she actually thought someone was going to be looking at her reactions in the scene!  And can anyone say "Banana Nose" better than Gale Gordon?

CD:  Babalu Music - a collection of musical moments from I Love Lucy.

Hey, this ain't work....it's a joy!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: Jrand73 on February 27, 2004, 05:03:53 AM
Hey DRLULU - as you can see I was being verbose!

And had almost the same reaction to DRCP's post fromt yesterday....LOL
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: Ben on February 27, 2004, 05:06:33 AM
The revival of Fiddler has opened to decent reviews. The best seem to come from Linda Winer at Newsday and Howard Kissel at NY Daily News. As Jose said yesterday, no raves but no complete pans either. I'm going to try and see it this weekend.

I'm in full musical theatre mode today. Don't know if I'll listen to them all at work but I have:

The Rothschilds OBC
The Music Man OBC
Stop the World OBC
Sweeney Todd OBC
Starting Here, Starting Now Original Cast Recording (it was done off-Broadway)

Anthony is on Long Island for clown shows this weekend and I'm off to Carnegie Hall tonight to see a friend sing in a concert. I shall then try in the remaining time this weekend to see Wonderful Town, the aforementioned Fiddler and if I can fit it in, budget and time-wise, something else. Perhaps Wicked or Movin' Out. I, therefore, will not be watching much on the VCR.
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: Lulu on February 27, 2004, 05:13:37 AM
Jrand: Did you know HE came out with a "sequel" to The Glass Teat entitled - you guessed it - The Other Glass Teat?  It's just as good, and has added benefits, such as memorable criticism of George Hamilton ("he walks like a man who's gotten his pegleg caught in a knothole") as well as a complete copy of HE's script for The Young Lawyers (so he can point out all the ways that those dumb ol' performers and director ruined his work).  Oh, and I'm particularly enamored of his cogent review of that new show The Partridge Family - to wit:  "Mother of GOD."
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: Ben on February 27, 2004, 05:17:04 AM
It hasn't opened yet, but part of me wants to see the NY City Opera production of Sweeney but the other part says, "Remember A Little Night Music last year" There are some good people in the Sweeney cast so it will be sung better than Night Music was (the image of Jeremy Irons fighting to remember not only the words but the music pop into my head). Mark Delavan is Sweeney and Elaine Page is Mrs. Lovett but the NY State Theatre is such a barn when it comes to theatre performances, and even half price the tickets are expensive so I may just skip it. I do, after all, have fond memories of the original cast w/Ms. Lansbury, the tour cast (a friend was in the production), the revival in 1989 I believe, at the old Circle in the Square, and the wonderful Kennedy Center production with sexy Brian Stokes Mitchell and Christine Baranski. If I miss this one, I will go on.
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: Jrand73 on February 27, 2004, 05:36:45 AM
OMG DR Lulu   NO I DIDN'T....

**** disappears to Amazon.com
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: S. Woody White on February 27, 2004, 05:36:51 AM
DR Charles Pogue, I am as jealous of you...still have yet to even be in the same room with HE.  You must regale us with tales of the bread-breaking.
Even though I would tower over him, I'd probably find Elison to be intimidating to the point of being speechless.  Not so der Brucer, who would engage the writer in a very lively conversation, I'm sure.  The question would become, how can anyone other than these two get a word in edgewise?

We could sell tickets!   :D
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: S. Woody White on February 27, 2004, 05:41:06 AM
A media addendum: der Brucer has also hooked up a turntable, and has been playing some of his vinyl collection.

I have to say it.  I've been holding it in, but I can't any longer.

I Can't Stand The Score For Oliver!

There, I've said it, and I feel better for it.

Whew!

 :-\
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: Jrand73 on February 27, 2004, 05:43:09 AM
I'm back...just ordered THE OTHER GLASS TEAT...thanks DRLulu.

A couple of my favorite sentences - in a tome full of favorite sentences - from THE GLASS TEAT:

" 'The King Family' is the Harold Robbins of television, lower than that I cannot go.  Everybody start rubbing on the Velveeta!"  
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: Jrand73 on February 27, 2004, 05:44:57 AM
DRSWW - I would buy a ticket to that!
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: JMK on February 27, 2004, 06:32:56 AM
The King Family--another great contribution to society from SLC.  LOL.  Lex de Azevedo founded a little label called Aubergine (Eggplant for you non hoity-toity types) years ago based in SLC.
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: Ben on February 27, 2004, 06:42:46 AM
Speaking of the King Family, Alvino Rey died recently. His obit was in the NY Times today.

From the first paragraph:

"Alvino Rey, a bandleader of the swing era who made the steel guitar sing and led many talented young musicians in honing their signature sounds, died on Tuesday at his home in Salt Lake City. He was 95."
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: Jennifer on February 27, 2004, 06:43:58 AM
Wow, I never knew there were so many combinations that went with peanut butter. I have never heard of it on a sandwich with butter, or maple syrup or anything other than jelly! :)

Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: William E. Lurie on February 27, 2004, 06:46:21 AM
I don't care what the reviews say, I have no interest in another FIDDLER... especially one that's been de-Jewed.  Any production that fired the wonderful Barbara Barrie Harnick (allegedly for being too sophisticated but actually for being too Jewish) is not worth seeing.  I am seeing SWEENEY although the performance I am seeing has Timothy Nolan, the alternate Sweeney (he did it at NYCO before).  I think they tried to sell tickets to NIGHT MUSIC by using movie stars.  Some of it worked, some didn't.  Next season they are bringing back CANDIDE.

Media report...

CD - (1) Former DR Susan Gordon in THE 5 PENNIES soundtrack; she is on 2 tracks and there is a nice color picture of her on the jewelbox inset (I think that's the term).  (2) SHERRY which doesn't have the annoying narration that the demo has.  (3) THE MUSICAL OF MUSICALS - THE MUSICAL cast album.  For those not familiar with this recent York Theatre show, it takes the same simple story and presents it  "in the style of" Rodgers & Hammerstein, Sondheim, Herman, Lord Lloyd Weber and Kander & Ebb.

DVD - CAMP, the most under-rated (non-animated) film of 2003 and THE GODS MUST BE CRAZY (although the original and the sequal are packaged together the sequal is not nearly as good --- but isn't that usually the case?).

VHS - 2 PBS specials we taped during the week to watch over the weekend: Rob and Laura Petrie in THE GIN GAME and the Garland documentary.

Cassette - Almost through with the 20 episodes of "Broadway Is My Beat" and then I start a new Jack Benny collection with 40 episodes from his very early shows on to the end of his radio career.

Books - ACT ONE by Moss Hart which I have not read in over 40 years.  The new edition needed proofreading as there are several typos --- something BK does not  allow in his books --- but it is interesting reading nonetheless.

By the way, The Museum of Television and Radio will be having two programs of musical numbers from the Alexander Cohen Tony years including numbers that were not allowed on the TV special and DVD.  This will be in May.  I'll post more details as it gets closer.  Is the Museum's LA branch showing these as well?
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: Matt H. on February 27, 2004, 06:47:50 AM
If DR Michael Shayne hadn't corrected the Sam Jaffe gaffe, I would have. Sad to say, the wonderful actor never won an Oscar.

DR S. Woody, sorry you don't like the score to OLIVER! I think it's magnificent.

Media check:

CD - ANYTHING GOES (Lincoln Center OCR)

VCR - ROCK PRETTY BABY

VDR - LEAVE HER TO HEAVEN

DVD - ANGEL - Season 1, disc 2 to be followed by GRAND HOTEL
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: William E. Lurie on February 27, 2004, 06:52:27 AM
Oh since the King Family has been mentioned I suppose I should confess that I had the hots for Robbie Rey, one of the "cousins".  Their show was a combination of good standard pop music and pure camp.  Two "highlight/low points" I remember:

Robbie and one of the other male cousins (who both came off very gay) singing "Why can't a woman be more like a man"!

A "Mary Poppins" medley ending with the following sung to the tune of a popular Christmas song:

   We wish you a Mary Poppins
   We wish you a Mary Poppins
   We wish you a Mary Poppins
   And a Walt Disney too.
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: Jrand73 on February 27, 2004, 06:58:12 AM
Velveeta indeed!  I have one of their TV show albums...the last track on side one is a short song telling us to "turn the record over!"
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: Dan (the Man) on February 27, 2004, 07:01:06 AM
DR Charles Pogue, I am as jealous of you as I know how to be!  I've met Neil Gaiman a couple of times, now, but still have yet to even be in the same room with HE.  You must regale us with tales of the bread-breaking.  If nothing very interesting happened, invent something!

Another vote for jealousy here!  I've never even met Gaimen, let alone broke bread with him.  He's been through Philly on numerous occaisions, but I had always been otherwise engaged.  

DVD/CD/VCR check:
DVD -- The Judy Garland/Frank Sinatra/Dean Martin special
CD (at home) -- Carla Bley -- Looking for America
CD (at work) -- Fiddler on the Roof (OCR)
VCR -- the Paul Taylor Dance in America that was broadcast the other week

Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on February 27, 2004, 07:25:54 AM
Media check:

TV is on the fritz, so DVD/VCR has been idle
CD player (as I get ready to head out): Promenade

Question for dog psychiatrists. Archie, our 12-year-old spaniel, had two recent spells at the vet's - several nights each. The diagnosis? Colitis. (New series for Fred Silverman: Diagnosis Colitis?) Happily, thanks to his medication, Archie's been a happy camper: playful, sleeping contentedly by my feet as I work, eating well.

That is, except for two hours between about four and six in the afternoon - every afternoon - when he barks continuously. I've tried an extra walk, extra food, extra playtime - but he just gets himself more and more agitated. Then, suddenly, he calms down. What's giving me a complex is that he responds to Gord's (deeper) "Archie, NO!" but becomes still barkier when I say it. The vet thinks it might be a hearing problem, but couldn't come up with any other explanation. Ideas about what I can do to calm Archie down?

Thanks, DRs.
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: MBarnum on February 27, 2004, 07:45:27 AM
Media check :

VCR: The Giant Claw (via DR JRand53)

DVD: The Secret of Dr. Kildare and a Bollywood film titled THE TRAIN (which, by the way, is one of the first Bollywood films that I have just enjoyed despite having a cast of some of my favorite 1960s Bollywood performers)

CD: The Best of Sandie Shaw and Iceland's Entries in the Eurovision contest 1986 to 2000 (via DR Tomovoz...these are fast becoming two of my favorite CDs!)
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: Kerry on February 27, 2004, 07:49:44 AM
VCR: One last delicious episode of "Surfside 6" (thanks to a delicious HHW friend)

DVD:  One last episode of the 4th season of The Sopranos (we've beeen doling them out hating to see it end).

CD player:  Maureen McGovern  sings Alan and Marilyn Bergman (I'm stuck on three selections that I keep playing over and over), a Linda Eder CD and a a Diane Schurr CD--

Cassette tape- a compilation tape that starts with Bette Middler singing "Ukulele Lady,"Guy Hianes singing "It Doesn't Matter at All, "  Forever Plaid singing "Perfidia," Lyn Larsen playing "Ukulele Lady," Percy Faith's version as well as the original soundtrack version of the "Theme from Summer Place," and the theme (Boyce and Hart included) from "Where Angels Go, Trouble Follows."  Oh, PLUS, various music from the soundtrack to "Penelope" (written by Johnny Williams).


Also in the VHS is "Jeanne Eagels" (which I just started watching)-- thanks to another equally delicious HHW friend)  I had only ever seen the movie once just after television had been invented----so what I saw then was black and white.  However I remember seeing later (in an issue of In Touch or something like that) a poster for the movie advertising it "IN Gay Color."   Given Kim Novak's status at Columbia at the time I'd be surprised if the original wasn't in color (gay or otherwise).  But I am deeply, deeply grateful to you, dear Jack for the film.


Now I need to go read yesterday's posts which I missed and find out all the things you can apparently do with peanut butter (or Vegemite to Tomovoz).

Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: Kerry on February 27, 2004, 08:03:32 AM
Dan-in-Toronto:

If it's not a medical flare-up at that time of day (depending on when meal times are), then your lovely dog knows that you're a sucker for such things and knows he can get away with it with you.
Dogs and kids both know that they can get away with things with me that they couldn't get away with DRMusicGuy.  I give in too easily and the dear tots and dogs consider me more of a peer than an authoority figure.  Archie knows he can get your attention.

That is my uneducated but very much experienced guess.  You and I need to learn to be firmer and butcher in such cases (NO COMMMENTS FROM TCB OR ANYONE ON THAT LAST SENTENCE!!!!!!!!)


And myabe Sherwood Schwartz could write the theme song to "Diagnosis Colitis"..... "Just sit right back and you'lll hear a tale..." OR  "Here's a story 'bout a dog named Archie....."
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: JMK on February 27, 2004, 08:10:19 AM
Re:  The Secret of Dr. Kildare.  Well I know I personally was shocked....SHOCKED to discover that Richard Chamberlain was.....

(finish as you will)
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: Noel on February 27, 2004, 08:11:25 AM
All this talk of glass teats reminds me of the boy's "doll" in A Thousand Clowns (my favorite play).

Imagine My Surprise is a lovely song from Personals, one of those waltzes that most people don't realize is a waltz.
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: Panni on February 27, 2004, 08:13:44 AM
Good morning.
DVD - nothing
VCR- a tape of CBS Sunday Morning with an interview w. Jim Sheridan I want to see
CD -  Casals: Bach Suites for Cello
Walkman - PALS

Dan-in-TO - Try giving Archie a few drops (I don't know the exact amount - other DRs do) of Rescue Remedy. There was a discussion about this a month or so ago and many seemed to feel that it works to calm our little furry friends (and dogs, too).
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: Jrand73 on February 27, 2004, 08:14:21 AM
DR DAN - do you suppose it's something that is happening in your neighborhood at that time that only Archie can hear....a mechanical or mfg. plant that does something....or even something in your home that is set to run or cycle at that time?
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: Panni on February 27, 2004, 08:15:17 AM
Re:  The Secret of Dr. Kildare.  Well I know I personally was shocked....SHOCKED to discover that Richard Chamberlain was.....

...not a natural blonde?
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: Jrand73 on February 27, 2004, 08:30:11 AM
OMG - I was just reading reviews of THE MUSICAL OF MUSICALS mentioned by DR WEL....and of course being from Indianer I hadn't not even got wind ov it.....and fell off my chair at the mock Sondheim lyric:

Que sera, Seurat!
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: William F. Orr on February 27, 2004, 08:33:16 AM
It is oh so hard to go through two days of posts, thinking of a comment one wants to make about every post, and then finally getting to the end and forgetting all those witty, insightful things.

CD Player at Home:  Midler Experience the Divine, which I couldn't resist yesterday when I picked up a copy of Wicked for a friend.

VCR:  A tape where I timeshifted Catch Me If You Can and All That Jazz (hoping it is an unbowderlized version) from a couple of the multiple movie channels I get with the new digital cable I just hooked up.  More on that later.

As long as HE (i.e. Harlan Ellison) is a topic of discussion today (as opposed the SHE, with whom FS Charles Pogue also has some acquaintance), I must do the obligatory name-dropping by mentioning that I gave HE a ride to the Kalamazoo airport in 1973--and got lost on the way.  My most vivid memories of the writers' conference we were both attending at the Kellogg Mansion:  

1.  The Kellogg ghost.  Late at night, reading stories for discussion the next day, you could here eerie sounds coming from the attic:  snap, crackle, pop.

2.  The conference center mainly held Christian conferences, Bible studies groups, etc.  The looks on the faces of the staff when HE would get a long-distance call and proceed to thunder for all to hear:  "YOU CAN TELL PARAMOUNT TO GO F*** THEMSELVES!!!"

3.  The dismissive comments I made about Gus Hasford's rough-draft of his story "The Short-Timers", later expanded to a novel and filmed by Kubrick as Full Metal Jacket.  :-[

TV Shows that got canceled: I don't think anyone mentioned Paper Moon.  It was delightful, featuring Christopher Connelly (who had played Ryan O'Neal's brother on the Peyton Place series) and a pre-Taxi Driver Jodie Foster as Addie Prey--a sweet little hick, although she was attending the Lycée Française de Los Angeles at the time.

They filmed it on location in Kansas et al, with non-union locals taking many of the bit parts.  Low key.  No laugh track.  I particularly remember the episode where Addie entered a Shirley Temple look-alike contest.  The series was strong on characters, a bit weaker on fabula and syuzhet. :o
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 27, 2004, 08:41:38 AM
Good Morning!

"Imagine My Surprise" - Why do I hear Ella Fitzgerald singing this phrase in my head?!?!  Duke Ellington?  Really hot horn section?  -Is it the wallflower song?!??  I'll have to investigate my CDs later - I'm thinking one of those Cote D'Azur concerts...

Media Check: - Nothing this week.  Even surprises me.  Mainly NPR for me this week.  But it has been nice watching Prime TV this week and not having it all be reruns.

Well, I need to get going - meeting my friend, Craig, at the movies - In America.  Got my pack of Kleenex ready.

Back after the movie!
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: Noel on February 27, 2004, 08:43:17 AM
fabula and syuzhet.

OK, I'll bite: fabula and syuzhet?  Define, please.
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: Jrand73 on February 27, 2004, 08:45:52 AM
DR Noel - I think they would have been BIG STARS, but Abbott and Costello got the roles.
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: bk on February 27, 2004, 08:47:01 AM
I was awakened this morning by an incredibly sharp pain in my calf muscle.  I don't know what I did, but I pulled the damned thing lying in bed!  I can barely hobble about now.  I'll stay off my feet as much as I can and as painful as it is, I've been rubbing it really hard to try to work it out.  I don't need to limp for ten hours tomorrow.

I'm no TIVO expert, but - the machine itself works in conjunction with a digital dish is what I gather.  So, the dish part of it is obviously a subscription like cable is.  The TIVO unit can be had cheaply through one of those companies.  It's amazingly simple to use and you can program it to record whatever you want whenever you want with total ease.
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on February 27, 2004, 08:48:18 AM
If it's not a medical flare-up at that time of day (depending on when meal times are), then your lovely dog knows that you're a sucker for such things and knows he can get away with it with you.
Dogs and kids both know that they can get away with things with me that they couldn't get away with DRMusicGuy.  

That is my uneducated but very much experienced guess.  You and I need to learn to be firmer and butcher in such cases



DR Kerry,

I'm pretty sure you nailed it: firmer and butcher.

Lord knows I've tried, but you can't fool a spaniel.

The earlier part of your post, combined with DR JRand53's comment about time of day, made me realize that, before Archie's condition, this wasn't only dinner and play time, but dessert time. Now, following the vet's strict orders, there's to be no dessert (i.e., dog treats) - only the specified dog food. Maybe that's why he's so agitated.

DR Panni, thanks for the tip about Rescue Remedy. I checked out the earlier posts, and will soon be picking up some RR at the Omega Center on Yorkville Ave.





Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 27, 2004, 08:48:34 AM
CD: "The Robe," "Under the Tuscan Sun," "Secondhand Lions," "Wicked," "Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story," "David Shire: Film Music," "The Prisoner of Zenda", "Khartoum/Mosquito Coast"

DVD: "Topper/Topper Returns"

VHS: "Justine"
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: Jrand73 on February 27, 2004, 08:54:05 AM
MR BK - maybe it happened when you got your hair cut.
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: bk on February 27, 2004, 08:54:58 AM
Re the Fiddler reviews - I've read about seven of them and they were all mixed to extremely negative.  Haven't seen Kissel's.  Mandelbaum was the only mixed that didn't really quite achieve negative, as if he were going out of his way to not do so.  But Brantley and the others, to my eyes, were deadly.
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: William F. Orr on February 27, 2004, 08:57:36 AM
DR Noel: There was a discussion of film schools a few days ago, wherein DR DerBrucer quoted at length from a frightening and funny article by David Weddle in the Times.  Briefly:

Quote
The prose was denser than a Kevlar flak jacket, full of such words as "diegetic," "heterogeneity," "narratology," "narrativity," "symptomology," "scopophilia," "signifier," "syntagmatic," "synecdoche," "temporality."  I picked out two of the--"fabula" and "syuzhet"--and asked Alexis if she knew what they meant.  "They're the Russian Formalist terms for 'story' and 'plot,' " she replied.

"Well then, why don't they use 'story' and 'plot?' "

"We're not allowed to.  If we do, they take points off our paper.  We have to use 'fabula' and 'syuzhet." "

I typed this in as is from my print-out.  Note that I would have put the quotes before the commas, but leave us not be pedantic.
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: Lulu on February 27, 2004, 09:00:20 AM
We've been tempted to get a TIVO, but are both leery of the whole privacy issue (they keep records of what is watched, what is taped, how many times you rewind to see a particular part, etc., then release this information to the media and to corporations).

I must have missed the prematurely-cancelled-TV-shows that you enjoyed topic (from another day, I presume?).  What the heck...some of mine are:

James at 15 (which became James at 16 after the infamous episode where James experiences his "first time" with a Swedish (of course) exchange student).  Great secondary characters, a sensitive and thoughtful portrayal of adolescence and oh yeah...the whole '70s thing is a hoot, too.

Freaks and Geeks   (maybe I'm prejudiced because this almost captures the time I was coming of age (it's about five years early), but I really liked this.  It kept getting pre-empted and then VOOM!  It was gone.)

The Adventures of Brisco County, Jr.   (we had big fun watching this, but The X Files got all the ratings and the critical plaudits.)

Kolchak: The Night Stalker   (ironically enough, primary inspiration of The X Files 20 years later.)


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Post by: Lulu on February 27, 2004, 09:02:42 AM
WFO:  See, you've hit the nail on the head; this is why, even though I'm fairly smart and do actually enjoy (in some ways) higher education, I don't consider myself an academic.  Entirely too much of this self-important, cliqueish, circle-j*** nonsense for me to take it entirely seriously.  This is exactly the reason I'm not (currently) a grad student.

(And I'm ashamed to say I even know what diegetic means.)
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Post by: William F. Orr on February 27, 2004, 09:05:27 AM
DR Lulu:  The X-Files did acknowledge their debt to The Night Stalker.  Before they became a complete self-parody there were a couple of episodes with Darrin McGavin playing essentially his character from the earlier series.

btb (by the bye in Internet Lingo) did I ever mention that Darrin McGavin was one of the best Kings I've ever seen on stage in The King and I?  Who'd a thunk?
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 27, 2004, 09:05:57 AM
DR Lulu - I will add another vote for James at 15/16 and The Adventures of Brisco County - and will also mention a show even though it ran 2 seasons DUE SOUTH!
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 27, 2004, 09:12:50 AM
When a person is no longer kempt, does that make him "ex-kempt"?

And if he's "ex-kempt" for a long time, does that give him an "ex-kemptlary record"?

Inquiring minds want to know!
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 27, 2004, 09:22:57 AM
"Diegetic" is used in different ways, based on a google search I did.

I'm most familiar with it in terms of "diegetic sound" in movies:

Diegetic sound means sounds that have to do with the story, sounds that originate from something that can be seen in the picture.

Thus, if you see an orchestra playing music on screen, the sound is "diegetic sound."  

Non-diegetic sound is the underscore -- that music that appears out of nowhere trying to establish an emotional transition or psychological response.

One of the oddest sensations, to me, is watching "Laura" on home video.  This title was held up from video release because rights to some of the music heard in the film could not be obtained (at a price Fox home video was willing to pay, one supposes).  

It is my belief (and DR Nick Redman may have different information he can share) that the music originally used in the film -- in the cafe's, restaurants and coming from the radio -- had to be replaced.  This would be "diegetic" music -- music that was part of the atmosphere of the on-screen locale in which the story was unfolding.

What is odd to me is that now, on home video, the music (rather, the tune) you hear in the cafe's, restaurants and coming from the radio, is "Laura's Theme" performed by different sized musical groups.  Thus, the diegetic converges with the non-diegetic in a way that is a tad disconcerting to me (not that it would be that way for most folks who generally profess to be unaware of music in movies).
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Post by: bk on February 27, 2004, 09:24:49 AM
Been watching One Night in the Tropics, part of the Abbott and Costello collection.  What a strange film - A&C were just plopped in as characters named Abbott and Costello, and the film just stops every few minutes (once they make they're entrance) for them to do their routines (I mean their vaudeville routines, not routines scripted for the picture).  Otherwise, we get Bob Cummings, Alan Jones and others, and a short song score by Jerome Kern and Dorothy Fields, which includes a poor rendition of a great song, Remind Me.
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 27, 2004, 09:29:14 AM
So what would it mean DRRLP if we have non-diegetic music in our lives?
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Post by: Lulu on February 27, 2004, 09:30:00 AM
While I'm busy responding to long-expired topics, I'll just go ahead (since I was upset at the time that I missed the first two decades of the List Your Favorite Films from A Certain Decade Theme Week topics) and list my favorite films from the '30s and '40s, as though anyone cared:

1930s

Red Dust
Trouble in Paradise
Tarzan and His Mate
The Marx Bros. films from The Cocoanuts through A Day at the Races
The 39 Steps
The Lady Vanishes
The Thin Man
Bombshell
Love Finds Andy Hardy
Swing Time
Shall We Dance?
Mad Love
The Mummy
Blonde Venus
Grande Illusion
Test Pilot
Captains Courageous
The Shop Around the Corner
Ninotchka
The Most Dangerous Game
M


1940s

Now, Voyager
Mildred Pierce
The Best Years of Our Lives
Meet Me in St. Louis
Life With Father
A Letter to Three Wives
Arsenic and Old Lace
Casablanca
The Maltese Falcon
Citizen Kane
Jane Eyre
Rebecca
Pinocchio
Ball of Fire
Mark of Zorro
Miracle on 34th Street

Hey, this is fun.  BK, I think one day the topic should be "Topics from Other Days that You Originally Missed."
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Post by: Lulu on February 27, 2004, 09:31:46 AM
I've always wanted non-diegetic music in MY life...specifically, John Williams' The Imperial March should thunder in everybody's eardrums each and every time I enter a room (cape aflutter).
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 27, 2004, 09:36:13 AM
So what would it mean DRRLP if we have non-diegetic music in our lives?

It would mean that somehow, through divine providence, not to mention mysterious circumstances, that your life is being underscored.  Some invisible orchestra, band or harmonica/accordion/kazoo player is accompanying you and playing music to accompany your life!

Mind you, elevator music does NOT qualify in this respect.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 27, 2004, 09:41:52 AM
In terms of a narrative (from the internet):

DIEGESIS: A narrative's time-space continuum, to borrow a term from Star Trek. The diegesis of a narrative is its entire created world. Any narrative includes a diegesis, whether you are reading science fiction, fantasy, mimetic realism, or psychological realism. However, each kind of story will render that time-space continuum in different ways. The suspension of disbelief that we all perform before entering into a fictional world entails an acceptance of a story's diegesis. The Star Trek franchise is fascinating for narratology because it has managed to create such a fully realized and complex diegetic universe that the narratives of all five t.v. shows (TNG, DS9, STV, Enterprise,, the original Star Trek) and all the movies occur, indeed coexist, within the same diegetic time-space. An important event in one of the movies affects all of the the other shows and films in the franchise.

The L.A. of Bruce Kimmel's youth in the Kritzer stories is an example of "diegesis."  (Please do not confuse with Bruce of L.A.)
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Post by: William F. Orr on February 27, 2004, 09:42:19 AM
The term "diegetic" has been taken up by some in the musical theatre.  A diegetic song in a show is something like say "Cabaret" or "Let Me Entertain You", where the characters are actually singing in their real lives, as opposed to "book songs"  (there is surely a fancy Greek word for that too?).  You could say all the songs in The Dead and the film of Cabaret are diegetic.

It's actually a useful term, although before I heard it, I used to speak of a "song-song", which conveys the same meaning.

Now who can define "synectoche"?  Any scholars of Aristotle's Poetics out there?
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 27, 2004, 09:43:36 AM
Doesn't everybody?  ;D

MR BK mentions THE ASPHALT JUNGLE in the notes today....one of my favorite movies.  Mr Louis Calhern (who for a time was married to Lovey aka Natalie Schafer) is so wonderful in that movie.....  :D

My other favorite Calhern role is in EXECUTIVE SUITE.... speaking of which...wasn't THAT a television series for a tiny bit of a season?   ???
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 27, 2004, 09:45:10 AM
Wait....did I read that someone is no longer hosting our site?

I missed something.....to quote Fred Willard in A MIGHTY WIND:

Wha' happened?
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Post by: William F. Orr on February 27, 2004, 09:49:17 AM
HUZZAH!  (Oh, a Kean reference!)

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Post by: Lulu on February 27, 2004, 09:52:51 AM
LOL, Jrand!

Don't forget, he pronounces it "Wha' HOP-pened??" just to maximize the idiocy (something at which Fred Willard is expert).

Janet Leigh on Columbo in T-minus 8 minutes!  Bravo channel!  Fire up those VCR/TIVOs!!  Be there or be square!
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Post by: Noel on February 27, 2004, 09:54:23 AM
I pulled this from rec.arts.theatre.musicals (back in the days when it was good)...

"Diegetic means that the characters in the play are aware that they are singing, instead of using song as a different form of communication.  For example, the nightclub acts in Guys & Dolls are diegetic, whereas Sarah and Sky's love duets are not."
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Post by: bk on February 27, 2004, 10:08:28 AM
I'm on a diegetic right now - I've lost about ten pounds.
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Post by: TCB on February 27, 2004, 10:19:47 AM
It is going to be a quiet weekend / week for my electronic audio-visual devices, with the exception of my cassette player.

DVD:  Empty
VCR:  Empty
CD (car): Empty
CD (living room): Empty
CD (computer): Empty
Cassette Player:  All of my music for next week’s gala.  Most of it I have under control, with the exception of SUNDAY from SITPWG.  The next person I hear say that Sondheim is easy is going to get bitch-slapped.

It is heartening to hear so many of the regulars here at HHW speaking out against the proposed constitutional amendment regarding the sanctity of marriage.  This is not a gay rights issue, but, rather, a human rights issue.  When the political leaders of this country begin to consider passing laws that restrict the civil rights of some or all of its citizens, then it is time for all of us to stand up against these abuses.

I can’t remember which is which (diegetic or non-diegetic), but I want a background score to my real life, too.  When I enter a room, I want that reprise of I COULD HAVE DANCED ALL NIGHT that happens at the end of MY FAIR LADY after Henry asks Eliza for his slippers.  I know, I should probably have something a little more butch, like THEME from TRUE GRIT or THE BALLAD OF THE GREEN BERETS, but hey, My life, my score.

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Post by: Lulu on February 27, 2004, 10:28:10 AM
TCB: Oh, I disagree.  I definitely think we need to do everything humanly possible to outlaw people loving, cherishing, and honoring each other until death do they part.   What kinds of weirdos would want to engage in such deviant behavior, anyway???

Yeesh.
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Post by: Lulu on February 27, 2004, 10:28:48 AM
BK: Careful you don't get dehydrated.
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Post by: Jennifer on February 27, 2004, 10:42:09 AM
Re: American Idol and the Wild Card show.

This is what someone (a member not anything official) posted on the website. Not sure if it's true:

They are going to have 12 wildcards this time around and have them tested for a week with the judges.  At the end of the week 8 will be on the wildcard show and we will vote on one, and the judges will pick one each and that makes 4.

Me:  Also, they need more men in the Top 12.  So I'll bet at least half of the wildcards will be male.

 

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Post by: Charles Pogue on February 27, 2004, 10:46:23 AM
No particular tales to tell about last night's din-din with Harlan and Neil Gaiman, though the conversation was bright and scintillating as always.  Much of the time they told tales about a fellow scribe of theirs, Norman Spinrad. And I broke my passenger side mirror on Harlan's curbside cactus.  I was pulling tight up alongside the curb.  It was a plant, I thought it would give.  It was like a wall and the damned cactus just ripped my mirror off. My mirrors are not the type that fold in when they meet an irresistible object.

Speaking of all this animal illness, our black cocker, Cully, whom BK has written about here...filching gum out of ladies' purses (we also call him Hoover, because with his muzzle to the floor, he can suck up any foodstuff...and other questionable edibles...right off the floor)...is going blind.  This has come on (or at least become noticeable) only since the first of February.  It's a degenerative retinal thing apparently and his eyesight seems to be down to pin-points.  All peripheral vision seems gone and it's sad to see the old guy bumping into stuff and losing his bearings.  And, of course, steps must be sequestered off, etc.  He's better in the daytime than the night, of course, but despite this and his almost twelve years (which is old for a cocker) he's in otherwise excellent health.
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 27, 2004, 10:51:09 AM
A Seeing Eye Human....what a wonderful concept!

DR TCB - At least once you must say Que sera, Seurat!
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Post by: JMK on February 27, 2004, 10:57:21 AM
I apologize up front for this post if anyone finds it offensive, but my gallows humor just got a nice jolt--did anyone else get the CASTRECL notice that Jerome Robbins' sister died of a heart attack in the theater right before Fiddler opened.  It was either divine providence, or some kind of psychic premonition of the "deadly" reviews.  :)
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 27, 2004, 11:00:18 AM
Re:  The Secret of Dr. Kildare.  Well I know I personally was shocked....SHOCKED to discover that Richard Chamberlain was.....

(finish as you will)
...Hiding all this time that his first name is really George.
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Post by: William E. Lurie on February 27, 2004, 11:01:27 AM
It seems the FIDDLER reviews (which I read after my prior posting) were all comparing this version to the Robbins version.  I'd like to read a review from someone seeing the show for the first time.  I get the impression that this is a FIDDLER for people who never saw it in its original staging.
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Post by: William F. Orr on February 27, 2004, 11:08:32 AM
So far I have refrained from commenting on President Bush's intention to win an election by protecting my neighbors' families from mine.  My experiences have been pretty good since Joe contracted EMS in 1989.  Doctors, nurses, and other hospital personnel have accepted me as his partner almost without exception--and that is before we did the paper-work which right-wingers tell me "gives us all the rights" that Britney Spears got at the shake of a booty--and for a mere $2,500 in lawyers fees.

Well, since he has been in the Medical Unit of the County Hoosgow, things have been different.  "I'm sorry, I can't discuss a patient's condition with you."  "I cannot violate the patient's right of privacy." (Ha!  As if they cared about his rights!)

Our attorney has just sent the Warden (via messenger and overnight-delivery certified mail) copies of our Health Care Proxy, Power of Attorney, and Living Will.  Still, when I called Dr. Ratched (she has been promoted due to her bedside manner and Academy Award), "I cannot discuss a patient with you.  I do not know who this patient is.  I have over 1600 inmates to care for.  I do not know who you are."  Sixteen hundred inmates, and there is no medical staff on duty at night?  And the "Med Unit" is the nursery.

The interesting news in Newsday this week is that an inmate was brought into the Med Unit on Friday with difficulty breathing.  They brought him to the hospital.  He was released and sent back to his cell.  He died Saturday of a pulmonary embolism.  And he didn't even write Rent.  The State Commission of Corrections is "investigating".  Our attorney has also contacted them.

So back to marriage.  I thank God that we have a President who believes in the sanctity of Who Wants to Marry a Millionaire.
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Post by: TCB on February 27, 2004, 11:13:10 AM
It seems the FIDDLER reviews (which I read after my prior posting) were all comparing this version to the Robbins version.  I'd like to read a review from someone seeing the show for the first time.  I get the impression that this is a FIDDLER for people who never saw it in its original staging.

Why should this new version of Fiddler on the Roof have to be the same as Jerome Robbins' Fiddler?  After 400+ years, the critics seem to cheer if a Shakespeare production successfully reinvents itself, but if it is a show from our lifetime, the original is apparently sacred.  I agree with you, WEL, I want to know what those who have never seen the show thought of this production.
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Post by: William F. Orr on February 27, 2004, 11:17:07 AM
Oh, and since Dear Reader Swishy Sarah has not returned with a review of Mel Gibson's new Blood Fest, can any meaning be read into the report that James Caviezel was struck by lightning during the filming?
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 27, 2004, 11:22:33 AM
I would agree with you 100% DR TCB if I had not once seen Hamlet dressed in black leather hotpants spinning on a wheel yelling "To be or not to be...."

Let me just say this Libby Appel - be afraid be very afraid.....her daughter did the lighting or costumes or something and her son composed the music (both chosen because they were better than other technicians employed at the space) and I swear if she had had another kid who could fit in the hotpants, that kid would have been spinning....

She is a disgrace to theatre audiences everywhere....you have been warned.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 27, 2004, 11:25:07 AM
Can any meaning be taken from the fact that a woman had a heart attack while watching ["The Passion of Christ"]...and died?  She apparently had the attack during an intense sequence of the film.


I'm waiting for the first reports of people vanishing during a screening.
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 27, 2004, 11:26:44 AM
DIEGESIS: A narrative's time-space continuum, to borrow a term from Star Trek.
What cra... sorry... What nonsense!  Everybody knows that time-space continuum was stolen by Trek from Dr. Who.
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 27, 2004, 11:32:15 AM
Actually Rocky Jones himself leaped across the time-space continuim.  How else to explain the 1953 Ghia?
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Post by: Jane on February 27, 2004, 11:35:43 AM
MBarnum you ate peanut butter and butter sandwich!  Haven’t you heard of scrambled eggs, in oil not butter, and dry toast when you are sick?  At least you didn’t have it with mayo.   ;D

And Matt H, I hope you don’t eat that when you are sick.  Between the two of you, I swear I’m going to be sick now.  :D You too Jed, Bruce,  Dan (the man)-who else?

JoseSPiano I expected you to chime in & make me gross out as well, but your version sounds much better & healthier.

Thank you Tomovoz.  You just settled my stomach with that exquisite photo. :)
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 27, 2004, 11:37:41 AM
Re:  "Survivor: All-Stars"

Things are pretty much on track.  After a very deceptive editing job, it was gratifying to see Richard Hatch get voted OFF the island.  

They made it seem like the ladies were going to team up with Richard and form a coup against the "men" of the tribe.

But, the final vote was all for Hatch, except his vote for Colby.
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Post by: William F. Orr on February 27, 2004, 11:40:56 AM
Oh, just to get Jane going:

Butter melted into the toast, then melt the peanut butter a little bit on top of each slice in the toaster oven.  Cover with honey, add sliced onions, slap the bread together.  Heaven!
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Post by: Jane on February 27, 2004, 11:43:19 AM

DR S. Woody, sorry you don't like the score to OLIVER! I think it's magnificent.

I bet he is far more sorry than you are since he, apparently, has to keep listening to it.  :D
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Post by: Panni on February 27, 2004, 11:43:49 AM
Now who can define "synectoche"?  Any scholars of Aristotle's Poetics out there?
A scholar of Aristotle I ain't. (Wasn't he married to Jackie Kennedy?) And I haven't read his Poetics since theater school. I still have a marked up copy of it somewhere around here. But, I do believe that synecdoche means a kind of metaphor in which you represent the whole thing by citing one part or vice versa. For example, head of cattle for many cows, or conversely "the law" for one lonely cop.
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 27, 2004, 11:45:55 AM
I thought it was something Dorothy Provine advertised....
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Post by: George on February 27, 2004, 11:47:51 AM
I'll have to do my media check later, mainly because I don't have anything to report.

Anyway, speaking of Fiddler On the Roof, I don't know if this has been mentioned yet (I'm only up to page 2), but Playbill.com reported that Sister of Jerome Robbins Dies at Fiddler's Opening Night (http://www.playbill.com/news/article/84638.html).  Shades of 42nd Street.
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 27, 2004, 11:49:45 AM
...But, I do believe that synecdoche means a kind of metaphor in which you represent the whole thing by citing one part or vice versa. For example, head of cattle for many cows, or conversely "the law" for one lonely cop.
OH!  A symbolic fractal!
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 27, 2004, 11:53:17 AM
Page Four Dance!
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 27, 2004, 11:53:29 AM
Now I KNOW that was something that Dorothy Provine advertised!
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Post by: Panni on February 27, 2004, 11:59:49 AM
Jrand 53 - I just emailed you a photo to upload if you are so inclined. (It's one I had promised just for you.)
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 27, 2004, 12:00:47 PM
The term "diegetic" has been taken up by some in the musical theatre.  A diegetic song in a show is something like say "Cabaret" or "Let Me Entertain You", where the characters are actually singing in their real lives, as opposed to "book songs"  (there is surely a fancy Greek word for that too?).  You could say all the songs in The Dead and the film of Cabaret are diegetic.
Another example would be the musical version of Goodbye Mr. Chips

The songs "Fill the World With Love," "London is London," and "Schooldays" are diegetic songs.  The others ("Walk Through the World," "And the Sky Smiled," "What a Lot of Flowers," "You and I," etc.) are not.
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Post by: Jane on February 27, 2004, 12:03:22 PM
Dan-in-Toronto we once had a dog with Colitis-sure glad you have it under control.  I hope it doesn’t flare up during his barking attacks.

I have never been confronted with a similar situation.  If my dogs bark, I expect there is something out there I can’t hear or smell.  Does he continue to bark if you take him completely out of the area?  It is possible he hears something you can’t.

One of the reasons I like the name Echo is it’s easier for me to drop my voice.  With the name Archie my voice would naturally go up on the ie.  Having a high voice I have practiced a deep, I mean business, voice that works.  Well, most of the time.  I have had friends imitate it, so maybe you can practice imitating Gord’s voice.  I have also found putting Echo on a down-stay when she is excited helps.

I will be very interested to read others suggestions you might receive.  Good luck.  This must be driving you bonkers.
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 27, 2004, 12:03:43 PM
thanks DRPANNI will take care of it at Chez Jack in an hour or so....I already have This Happy Feeling about the whole thing!
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Post by: Panni on February 27, 2004, 12:07:44 PM
OH!  A symbolic fractal!

Same to you, SWW!
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Post by: bk on February 27, 2004, 12:08:11 PM
My Uncle Rube was a diagetic and had to take insulin shots.  I used to watch him do so whenever he and his wife visited LA.
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 27, 2004, 12:09:13 PM
So your Uncle Rube was a pickpocket - huh?
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Post by: Jane on February 27, 2004, 12:11:06 PM
before Archie's condition, this wasn't only dinner and play time, but dessert time. Now, following the vet's strict orders, there's to be no dessert (i.e., dog treats) - only the specified dog food. Maybe that's why he's so agitated.


Can you save a portion of his dinner & pretend it is dessert?  I have found it works with dry food.  I know this sounds silly but it might really work.
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Post by: Panni on February 27, 2004, 12:12:33 PM
FS Pogue - Sorry to hear about Cully. That's the one drawback of having pets - they age much too soon. On the other hand, I wouldn't want a parrot that lived on to tell my secrets. That news story from a month or two ago about Churchill's parrot seems to have disappeared. Probably not true. Too bad.
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Post by: Panni on February 27, 2004, 12:17:15 PM
Factoid of the day and then I must work. Did you know that when you crack bones (knuckles, toes, etc) what you are hearing is not the sound of actual bones cracking -- that would be terribly painful. You are hearing the release of gas trapped between the joints.
Okay - let's see who's first with the fart jokes.
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 27, 2004, 12:19:30 PM
Is that why so many pianists stink?
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Post by: TCB on February 27, 2004, 12:19:32 PM
I would agree with you 100% DR TCB if I had not once seen Hamlet dressed in black leather hotpants spinning on a wheel yelling "To be or not to be...."



Now I did not say that I cheered at each reinvention of Shakespeare (having personally endured Christopher Walken's gold lame Hamlet), but rather the critics seem to cheer.  Some of these attempts work better than others.  As George would agree, the rock 'n roll Twelfth Night is a wonderful show.  Some others I have been involved with, The Tempest set in the Louisiana bayou, just don't seem to work at all.  At the same time, nobody is going to complain that the choreography in a new production of Romeo and Juliet is wrong, because it isn't Bill Shakespeare's original design.  So why should every new Fiddler have to pay hommage to Mr. Robbins?
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Post by: TCB on February 27, 2004, 12:25:13 PM
I'll have to do my media check later, mainly because I don't have anything to report.

Anyway, speaking of Fiddler On the Roof, I don't know if this has been mentioned yet (I'm only up to page 2), but Playbill.com reported that Sister of Jerome Robbins Dies at Fiddler's Opening Night (http://www.playbill.com/news/article/84638.html).  Shades of 42nd Street.





Jerome Robbins' sister also died at the opening of 42nd Street?
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Post by: TCB on February 27, 2004, 12:31:19 PM
Factoid of the day and then I must work. Did you know that when you crack bones (knuckles, toes, etc) what you are hearing is not the sound of actual bones cracking -- that would be terribly painful. You are hearing the release of gas trapped between the joints.
Okay - let's see who's first with the fart jokes.

That is good to know, because Charles saves gas when he wears underwear.
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Post by: Jane on February 27, 2004, 12:36:41 PM
Oh, just to get Jane going:

Butter melted into the toast, then melt the peanut butter a little bit on top of each slice in the toaster oven.  Cover with honey, add sliced onions, slap the bread together.  Heaven!

GROSS! GROSS! GROSS!  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Matt H. on February 27, 2004, 12:37:04 PM
Finished watching GRAND HOTEL this afternoon and was surprised when Prising killed the Baron. For some reason, I thought the Baron committed suicide. I must be mixing up the Baron with the character John Barrymore played in DINNER AT EIGHT. I hadn't seen GRAND HOTEL in many years and enjoyed it.
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Post by: Jane on February 27, 2004, 12:42:59 PM
Lulu I was very disappointed when The Adventures of Brisco County, Jr. was cancelled.  I especially enjoyed Bruce Campbell, whom I believe lives in one of my local towns.
Kolchak: The Night Stalker with Darren McGavin was another good show.

WFO the X-Files episodes with Darren McGavin were delightful.  
Since Joe is in the hospital are you able to talk to him directly on a daily basis?

CharlesPogue I’m sorry Cully and you are having a difficult time.  :(  

JRand53 regarding Libby Appel, where was this play?  She is now the director of our Ashland Shakespeare Festival.  Needless to say Keith & I are very careful now before purchasing our tickets.  If the play isn’t staged in traditional costume, we pass on it.
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on February 27, 2004, 12:50:45 PM
GROSS! GROSS! GROSS!  ;D ;D ;D

Well, while we're on the subject:

I once read where Inuit Eskimos will buy sticks of butter, insert them with skewers, sprinkle them with sugar and freeze them, then eat them like popsickles for a snack.

And I remember a particular Galloping Gourmet in which Graham Kerr spent the entire half hour painstakingly making two perfect wafer-thin crepes, only to fold an entire brick of Philadelphia cream cheese into one of them and eat it with his hands.  
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Post by: Jane on February 27, 2004, 01:01:33 PM
Dan (the Man) I have read of that favorite Eskimo treat, made with whale fat or something comparable.

I did a quick google search and couldn’t find anything, but didn’t the Galloping Gourmet have to change his style of cooking due to heart problems
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on February 27, 2004, 01:01:36 PM
That is, except for two hours between about four and six in the afternoon - every afternoon - when he barks continuously. I've tried an extra walk, extra food, extra playtime - but he just gets himself more and more agitated. Then, suddenly, he calms down. What's giving me a complex is that he responds to Gord's (deeper) "Archie, NO!" but becomes still barkier when I say it. The vet thinks it might be a hearing problem, but couldn't come up with any other explanation. Ideas about what I can do to calm Archie down?

Just guessing here, but is it possible that his meds are causing some kind of ringing in his ears?  It could be that as the pills are breaking down in his system that the components are causing some temporary tintinitus.  I have heard of that kind of side effect occurring in humans with certain kinds of medication.
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Post by: William F. Orr on February 27, 2004, 01:03:11 PM
Jane:  Yes, fortunately, Joe has pretty regular access to the telephone in the "Medical Unit".  Back in the cells it would become a big wait-in-line, pecking-order kind of thing with all the attendant Oz drama.  Visits, however:  two one-hour visits a week, with reservations to be made 24 hours in advance at a phone number that is constantly busy.
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on February 27, 2004, 01:05:54 PM
Dan (the Man) I have read of that favorite Eskimo treat, made with whale fat or something comparable.

Kind of makes you wonder where they got the idea for Eskimo Pies.

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I did a quick google search and couldn’t find anything, but didn’t the Galloping Gourmet have to change his style of cooking due to heart problems

Yeah, I kind of remember another show he did with a heathy cooking theme--something like Eating Smart with Graham Kerr.  
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Post by: Jed on February 27, 2004, 01:10:29 PM
The next person I hear say that Sondheim is easy is going to get bitch-slapped.
After doing 3 recitals of the guy's music (about 50 songs in all), I wouldn't dare say such a thing, TCB!

I don't know what I did, but I pulled the damned thing lying in bed!
Now now, BK.  Keep that up and you'll go blind!  :o

Oh, and thank you to WFO for reminding me of the peanut butter and onion combo.  Another guilty culinary pleasure!  (Sorry to add to your nausea, Jane  ;))

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Post by: bk on February 27, 2004, 01:11:50 PM
Careful with spoiler alerts if you're talking about plot developments in movies.
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Post by: Jed on February 27, 2004, 01:16:35 PM
Hmmm... currently using the computer of the teacher I'm substituting for today (usually don't do that, but this guy's a friend of mine), and I noticed a thing called "PageRank" on his toolbar.  It says it's "Google's measure of the importance of this page," yet it ranks HHW as only 1 out of 10!!!  What fools these Google-heads be!  We're AT LEAST a 2! :D
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Post by: Tomovoz on February 27, 2004, 01:17:32 PM
More of our garden friends.
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Post by: TCB on February 27, 2004, 01:18:16 PM
Dan (the Man) I have read of that favorite Eskimo treat, made with whale fat or something comparable.

I did a quick google search and couldn’t find anything, but didn’t the Galloping Gourmet have to change his style of cooking due to heart problems

Yes, Graham Kerr, quit drinking, found God, moved to Tacoma, and started cooking healthy meals.  What is wrong with this picture?
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Post by: Charles Pogue on February 27, 2004, 01:23:52 PM
Panni, I think the problem may be that pets don't age too soon, but live too long...As much as we want them around us forever, I think modern veterinary medicine, much like Human medicine, keeps animals around long after their parts start to wear out.  And the long slow debilitating decline can wreak havoc on us humans right up to that point where we have to make that heart-rending decision of "has the quality of life diminished to the point it's time to put them down?"  Cully's still a ways from that point and (I hope I don't have to make that decision with him, that he goes quietly in his sleep some day), but right now the lovely wife and I are sleep-deprived and, because he has trouble finding his automatic dog-door to the dog run, the accidents are starting in the house.  I personally would rather have an animal live not as long and go quickly, knowing that he had full, well-cared-for life in the time he did have.
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on February 27, 2004, 01:27:46 PM
Yes, Graham Kerr, quit drinking, found God, moved to Tacoma, and started cooking healthy meals.  What is wrong with this picture?

It's boring!

I sometimes long for the days when I dreamed of being a failed playwright living in Paris who smoked and drank and whored his days away, while his unused typewriter sat on his desk waiting to be sold to supply a nasty cocaine habit.

Those were the days, my friend.
We thought they'd never end,
We'd sing and dance forever and a day...
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 27, 2004, 01:29:53 PM
DRs JANE & KEITH - It was during Libby Appel's infamous reign as Artistic Director of Indiana Repertory Theatre....Ashland "stole" her away from us but there was a big cheer from the artistic community when she slunk out of town taking her untalented children with her and leaving in her wake a total devastation of the IRT season ticket base....they lost 25% of it in her second year....

I only hope the door hit her hard in the ass on the way out....  :P

DR PANNI I couldn't get a very good copy of the pic....but here it is....  Yes Dear Readers here is Panni with the one and only TAMMY, Miss Debbie Reynolds....  ;D ;D ;D ;D

PIC MOVED BELOW!!!
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Post by: TCB on February 27, 2004, 01:30:17 PM
It's boring!

I sometimes long for the days when I dreamed of being a failed playwright living in Paris who smoked and drank and whored his days away, while his unused typewriter sat on his desk waiting to be sold to supply a nasty cocaine habit.

Those were the days, my friend.
We thought they'd never end,
We'd sing and dance forever and a day...



Ah, Dan, a real romantic!
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Post by: TCB on February 27, 2004, 01:32:40 PM
Panni -- Where was the picture of you and Debbie taken?  Is there a story that goes along with the photo?
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Post by: bk on February 27, 2004, 01:40:12 PM
One of the things that I could never figure out where to put in the first Kritzer book (I wrote it, but it just didn't fit anywhere), was when my mother took me to the Wiltern Theater for the opening of Tammy and the Bachelor.  Debbie was there and she was throwing autographed copies of the 45 of the title song, and my mother, seeing Debbie was ignoring our side or the lobby, shouted out, "Hey, Debbie, over here!" and we got one.  I wish I still had it, but alas, many of my cherished 45s are long gone.
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Post by: Robin on February 27, 2004, 01:40:57 PM
I haven't posted in 'bout a week...seems I injured myself moving one of my condo neighbors couches down to the basement.  

Why do I say "seems like"?  Well, because I don't actually remember it happening.  According to the Significant Other, the couch went awry, and clocked me a good one on the noggin.  And I was out like a light...for five hours.  Spent the night in the hospital too.  But I don't remember any of it.  None.  Zip.  

Long story short, I've suffered a severe concussion, and spent the last few days in and out of the bed, with the biggest Excedrin headache the world has ever known.   Oh, and stitches in the noggin.  Guess I needed a haircut while I was out, too.  

Imagine my surprise!

I'm getting around the house now, and can even do some reading without the words falling off of the pages.  I'm nearly better, and feeling well enough to peruse some websites...and even post.  

So, I could use some of those "get well" vibes...even if I'm mostly well now.  Maybe some retroactive vibes wouldn't hurt...!

Anyway, the upshot of all this is that I'll be in and out over the weekend, and hopefully back at work on Monday or Tuesday, depending on how I'm feeling.  

As to the weekly media check:

On deeveedee: Star Trek: Voyager Season One.  And that's about it.  

Oh, well...time for another nap.  
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Post by: Jane on February 27, 2004, 01:42:21 PM
WFO is ESM Eosinophilia-Myalgia Syndrome?
I hope that phone in the “medical unit” has been of value in your assisting Joe with his medical needs.

Tomovoz we are going to visit you one day and see those birds up close.

TCB it couldn’t be Tacoma! ;)
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Post by: Jennifer on February 27, 2004, 01:43:24 PM
Hey, have I lost my mind or was it DR Panni's birthday yesterday?  I could swear it was marked when I checked the calendar last weekend. But when I check now, it's gone.
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 27, 2004, 01:43:32 PM
Here is the pic a bit smaller!   ;D

But it is just as lovely!   ;D
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Post by: bk on February 27, 2004, 01:45:55 PM
I believe Panni is a March baby.
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Post by: Tomovoz on February 27, 2004, 01:46:00 PM
A King parrot.
The queen parrots have organised a theatre party and left for the day.
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 27, 2004, 01:46:37 PM
Oh oh oh....what a wonderful Debbie Reynolds story, MR BK!
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Post by: TCB on February 27, 2004, 01:47:28 PM
GOOD VIBES, ROBIN!

I hope you are feeling better soon.
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Post by: Jay on February 27, 2004, 01:48:28 PM
Retro vibes of good health and headache-free recovery to Dear Reader Robin!!!
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Post by: Jennifer on February 27, 2004, 01:52:01 PM
OMG DR Robin: That is horrible.  Your SO must have been freaking out.

Feel better, good health vibes to you! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Post by: Tomovoz on February 27, 2004, 01:53:20 PM
Speedy recovery and good vibes DR Robin. Thanks for using my favourite word "awry"!
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 27, 2004, 01:55:48 PM
DR ROBIN - watch Singin' In the Rain.....you'll feel better, I promise!
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Post by: Jane on February 27, 2004, 01:56:44 PM
Panni you look so cute with Debbie.

CharlesPogues, I fear you will have to make the decision when the time goes.  At least we can do that for our beloved pets.  In my years of volunteering at nursing homes I have seen people last years beyond their time and endurance.  Sadly, as with pets, it is due to their family’s inability to let go and use modern medicine to keep them going.  Often it is just that life, or death can be very unfair.

JRand53 between fires and a poor economy I don’t know what Libby’s financial affect has been on the festival here.  This year should be a good indication.  I do know if she were to “slink” out of our town Keith & I would be very pleased.

Bruce that was a nice story about your mother. :)

Robin Anderson GET WELL VIBES!  Please take it easy and don’t read too much at once.
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Post by: Jennifer on February 27, 2004, 02:01:23 PM
I believe Panni is a March baby.

Ah okay it's NEXT thursday.

And I actually did look at the March calendar before posting. But I guess Echo's week long birthday listings confused me :)

btw, when is Echo's actual birthday? :)
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Post by: TCB on February 27, 2004, 02:01:40 PM
Jane --How did Ashland feel about Pat Patton?
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Post by: Charles Pogue on February 27, 2004, 02:13:36 PM
Jane, I've already had to make that decision once with a much-loved dog.  I would rather an animal die naturally and quietly, but I wouldn't prolong an animal's life once its quality was gone and if it's suffering too greatly. The strange thing about Cully, though it's obvious he's slowing down, he seems perfectly content and can still act like a young pup at times.  Now as far as the evil cat...If fear, he'll be indestructible and go forever on pure onery-ness.
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Post by: MBarnum on February 27, 2004, 02:44:22 PM
My golly Robin, what an ordeal. Hope you get totally well very soon!

Panni, what was the story behind meeting Debbie Reynolds? Did I miss it?

Jane, my mom's favorite combo is peanut butter and dill pickle sandwiches.

Tom, you have beautiful birds in Oz!
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Post by: George on February 27, 2004, 02:55:15 PM
Why should this new version of Fiddler on the Roof have to be the same as Jerome Robbins' Fiddler?  After 400+ years, the critics seem to cheer if a Shakespeare production successfully reinvents itself, but if it is a show from our lifetime, the original is apparently sacred.  I agree with you, WEL, I want to know what those who have never seen the show thought of this production.

Now I did not say that I cheered at each reinvention of Shakespeare (having personally endured Christopher Walken's gold lame Hamlet), but rather the critics seem to cheer.  Some of these attempts work better than others.  As George would agree, the rock 'n roll Twelfth Night is a wonderful show.  Some others I have been involved with, The Tempest set in the Louisiana bayou, just don't seem to work at all.  At the same time, nobody is going to complain that the choreography in a new production of Romeo and Juliet is wrong, because it isn't Bill Shakespeare's original design.  So why should every new Fiddler have to pay hommage to Mr. Robbins?

I don't think that they pay homage to Robbins, but for other Jerome Robbins shows (WSS & Gypsy), you either HAVE to do his choreography or it's at least notated and available (for unimaginitive directors) to do.  Just about any other show (IMLE..."In My Limited Experience" in Internet lingo) allows directors, producers and choreographers to do whatever the hell they want with the staging and/or choreography.  It engenders the (limiting) mindset that certain shows can only be done certain ways.

And yes, R&R 12th Night is wonderful! ;D
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on February 27, 2004, 03:10:31 PM
DR ROBIN -

[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]BEST OF HEALTH VIBES[/move]


retro
current
future
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on February 27, 2004, 03:20:15 PM
DR Dan (The Man) - Thanks for ideas about Archie's barking. I'll run it by the vet.

And DR Jane - I've tried the angry voice thing, but I get the impression Archie's laughing himself silly. And thanks for the idea, but he doesn't fall for the dessert-is-really-canned-food con.

I did go out and purchase some Rescue Remedy and hope it will do the job.

DR Charles - It must be the breed; cocker = hoover. Shortly after we got Archie I took him to the park. He raced across a field, and when I caught up with him he was helping himself to somebody's coffee. Archie and I send our best to Culler.
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on February 27, 2004, 03:26:08 PM
DR JMK,

I just read and enjoyed your signature line: What is it, knish?


Now for a trivia question. Name the show that features the flattering lyric:

"You're packed as solid as a knish."
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Post by: JoseSPiano on February 27, 2004, 03:31:22 PM
Is that why so many pianists stink?

Hey?!?!  I resemble that remark!

 ;D

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Post by: JoseSPiano on February 27, 2004, 03:34:21 PM
Yes, Graham Kerr, quit drinking, found God, moved to Tacoma, and started cooking healthy meals.  What is wrong with this picture?

Hmmm...  That he didn't move in with you?

 ;)
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Post by: JMK on February 27, 2004, 03:35:08 PM
Now for a trivia question. Name the show that features the flattering lyric:

"You're packed as solid as a knish."

Finian's Rainbow   :o
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 27, 2004, 03:43:47 PM
LOL present company excepted of course....
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on February 27, 2004, 04:08:42 PM
Dan (the Man) I have read of that favorite Eskimo treat, made with whale fat or something comparable.



We have a friend, who's from a conservative Jewish family, who married an Inuit. Esther had never dated a Jewish guy, so when she announced to her family that she was engaged to Dave Rubin (yes, that was his name), they were thrilled, at least for the moment. After the wedding, Esther went to the Arctic to meet her in-laws. She said she was able to eat everything they served her, with one exception: eggs fried in blubber.
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Post by: Jane on February 27, 2004, 04:10:25 PM
Ah okay it's NEXT thursday.

And I actually did look at the March calendar before posting. But I guess Echo's week long birthday listings confused me :)

btw, when is Echo's actual birthday? :)

LOL-on the 9th she will be nine.
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Post by: Jennifer on February 27, 2004, 04:12:03 PM
Okay DR Jane: Then why does the calendar give her a birthday every day in March? :)
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Post by: Danise on February 27, 2004, 04:12:29 PM
Good evening all!

Called Ticket Master today to ask if it were possible for them to call me when the ticket come on sale.  They said, “No” but I could sign on their website to have an e-mail sent.  I am considering doing that and using my work e-mail address.  I just want to check and make sure I can get my address off of the mailing list after I get the notice.

The lady I spoke with said they do handle tickets for the venue he’s going to be at.  That means  they WILL have tickets for sale for the concerts and she suggested I call them first thing on Monday because it is the beginning of a new month and their information is updated at that time.  

May is still a bit far out, time wise so they don’t have anything on it now.  Sigh.  

I’m attaching a picture of my new fish.  As you can see, he has a very dark face and that steel blue body.  He’s a very smart little fellow.  He already knows the bottle of food.  When I bring it out, he goes up and down the side of the tank to show he wants to be fed!

DR JMK–Thank you once again for the information about SLC.  I’ll be there about one on Thursday and will have all day Friday and Saturday to take a look around.  I am looking forward to it.  I would like to see the Planetarium that I think will only be a few blocks from the hotel.

DR Mbarnum: I ‘m glad your feeling a little better!  Being sick is never fun.  It was so cold here today.  I should have wore my coat but I used my leather jacket instead and I noticed this afternoon that my throat is slightly sore.  I took some aspirin.  I hope it will ward off anything that may be starting.

DR Robin, wow!  I’m sorry to hear about your accident.  I'm glad that you are better now and hope you continue to get better.  

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Bought my Le Miz tickets today.  I'll get to see that the weekend after I come home from Utah.  

Remember to potty first! The first Act is a bladder buster!

I'll keep that in mind.  I don't want it to turn into Le Wizz!   ;D

The things I learn on this board.  I never would have guessed that Bruce was a "kempt" man!   :D

I believe I have a book to order.  Be back later.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on February 27, 2004, 04:14:20 PM
Now I did not say that I cheered at each reinvention of Shakespeare (having personally endured Christopher Walken's gold lame Hamlet), but rather the critics seem to cheer.  Some of these attempts work better than others.  As George would agree, the rock 'n roll Twelfth Night is a wonderful show.  Some others I have been involved with, The Tempest set in the Louisiana bayou, just don't seem to work at all.  At the same time, nobody is going to complain that the choreography in a new production of Romeo and Juliet is wrong, because it isn't Bill Shakespeare's original design.  So why should every new Fiddler have to pay hommage to Mr. Robbins?

I don't think that they pay homage to Robbins, but for other Jerome Robbins shows (WSS & Gypsy), you either HAVE to do his choreography or it's at least notated and available (for unimaginitive directors) to do.  Just about any other show (IMLE..."In My Limited Experience" in Internet lingo) allows directors, producers and choreographers to do whatever the hell they want with the staging and/or choreography.  It engenders the (limiting) mindset that certain shows can only be done certain ways.

And yes, R&R 12th Night is wonderful! ;D

As most if not all of the reviews have stated, the revival uses Robbins original choreography because the Robbins' estate mandates that you do.  When this Fiddler was first being discussed, the whole Robbins choreography requirement was a major issue.  So much so, that, if I'm remembering correctly, if Jerome Robbins' original choreography was not used, the Robbins Rights Trust could have essentially issued a cease and desist order on the revival.  Thus, the dances are credited to Jerome Robbins, while the "Musical Staging" is credited to Jonathan Butterell.

-Now, I have to wonder, if the producers were ever given the option of not using - or even acknowledging - Robbins' original direction and staging - in exchange for a fee of some sort?  Well, most likely a very high monetary figure.  -Anyone know if it is possible to not use Robbins' original choreography for a major professional revival?

So... Besides what seems to be a major case of miscasting of Tevye, I also have to wonder just how constrained the director, David Leveaux, really felt during the rehearsal process - with the Robbins Rights Trust most likely looking over his shoulder the whole time.  From what I can gather from both reviews and from comments from some friends of mine who saw the show in previews, they actually think Mr. Leveaux's more naturalistic approach could have worked if he would have been allowed to carry that concept all the way through, and apply it to every aspect of the show - including the musical staging/choreography.  If he had been allowed to completely rethink the show.

*There was an article in yesterday's NY Times about how Mr. Leveaux and Mr. Butterell have adapted and modified the Robbins' staging.  -And it's still up for your reading pleasure on the new Theater page.  So...

...Well, I think I made my point... If not, in short:
If the Robbins Rights Trust was not a part of the picture, could this revival of Fiddler have been better - or even worse - than it currently is being reviewed as being?
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Post by: JoseSPiano on February 27, 2004, 04:19:15 PM
DR Robin Anderson - Many, many Good Vibes being sent your way.

-Or should I send Excedrin Vibes? ;)
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Post by: JoseSPiano on February 27, 2004, 04:21:26 PM
DR WFO - I'm with Jane here... Peanut Butter, Butter... and Onions?!?!?!

Although, that combination actually seems kind of Thai or even African, Ethiopian... SO.. hmm...

???
:X
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Post by: Michael on February 27, 2004, 04:22:30 PM
LOOK WHAT I FOUND//////////////

The Lost Bruce Kimmel show

If I Had a Million
 
Comedy, 52min
 
Ruth McDevitt, John Schuck, Joseph Wiseman Bruce Kimmel Peter Kastner
 
This multiplotted (and unsold) TV pilot was inspired by the classic 1932 film of the same name. Like the earlier film, the various storylines are sparked by a wealthy philanthropist (Peter Kastner) who chooses names at random from a phone book, then bestows one million tax-free dollars upon those chosen. Also like the 1932 picture, each of the four short playlets are scripted by four different writers (or writing teams). In one episode, a syndicate chauffeur (John Schuck) is afraid to tell his suspicious mob employers that he's come into money. In another episode, an old lady (Ruth McDevitt) breaks away from her selfish family to find romance. In still another episode, Ken Mars doesn't know whether to share his good fortune with his wife or his mistress. The last installment, titled "First the Tube, and Now You Darling", stars perennial game show contestant Brett Somers as the lucky (?) recipient. If I Had a Million ran only one hour, thus it hasn't made the syndication rounds as a TV movie. ~ Hal Erickson, All Movie Guide
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Post by: JoseSPiano on February 27, 2004, 04:22:57 PM
DR Danise - Love the new fish!  Thanks for the pic!
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Post by: Jane on February 27, 2004, 04:27:42 PM
TCB I’m embarrassed to say I’m not familiar with Pat Patton, by name anyway.  Tell me more.

CharlesPogue evil cats do go on forever-LOL.  I have known several blind dogs that have done just fine.  Hopefully Cully will be one of those dogs.

I have always had to make a decision with my pets.  Considering how many pets I have had over the years it is rather strange none of them went naturally.  If I follow my heart and hold them in my arms it makes the decision easier.  I do remember one of our son’s gerbils died naturally.  That was easier but an absolute shock.

MBarnum peanut butter and dill pickle sandwiches. Yuck!  I believe you are all having fun today at my expense. :D

Jennifer awhile back I mentioned this needs to be corrected.  Ask the question to the person in charge of our calendar.

Danise your fish is very pretty.  Good luck with the tickets.
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Post by: Danise on February 27, 2004, 04:30:10 PM
Thanks, Jose!  The picture looks better when it's bigger.  I LOVE my camera because it has a setting that allows me to take pictures of fish in a tank.  

How's the diet going?  I'm really starting to see results.  When I'm not losing weight, I'm seeing inches melt off.  My face seems to be where I notice it the most.  

I caught a half look of myself in the mirror the other day and couldn't believe the change.

If I had known it would be this easy, I would have done it a long time ago.  

I've never heard of what your doing, Bruce.  What kind of diet is it?

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Post by: JoseSPiano on February 27, 2004, 04:35:53 PM
DR Danise - Part 2 - Diet Update... Well, it's going... Somedays better than other.  However, I can already tell that my running and Pilates this week - as well as my 100+ crunches a day - have already had some positive results.  So... :)

-And we're due for a some unseasonably warm days this weekend... More running and walking weather!
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 27, 2004, 04:37:48 PM
Danise:  That photo looks like an exotic orchid, not a fish!  

LOL!
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Post by: bk on February 27, 2004, 04:38:02 PM
Here's Michael's next challenge - the name of the pilot I did with George Kennedy and Anne Schedeen for CBS.  I can never remember the name of it.  It was created by Elliot Schoenman who would later create Cosby, directed by Charles Dubin.  I played Kennedy's son.
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Post by: JMK on February 27, 2004, 04:38:04 PM
Re:  Peter Kastner!!  Does anyone remember his short-lived sitcom The Ugliest Girl in the World?  He cross-dressed and became a famous fashion model.
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Post by: Jane on February 27, 2004, 04:39:17 PM
I was making Echo her daily peanut butter on matzo sandwich with a Glucosamine pill in the middle when Keith reminded me of a childhood favorite of his-peanut butter & fried salami.  For an extra special treat he added jelly.  All this after dinner & his parents had left the house.  BTW he was a real tub!  He still eats very strange combos in front of me but they are all healthy ones. :D
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Post by: JoseSPiano on February 27, 2004, 04:39:37 PM
OH!  And I just remembered the Ella Fitzgerald I thought I was thinking of... It wasn't "Imagination My Surprise", but "Imagine My Frustration".  -And, yes, it's a Duke Ellington song, and it appears on one of those "rare" Cote D'Azur concert recordings that were released a few years ago.  There is some great material on those CDs - as well as some songs that never recorded elsewhere.
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Post by: JMK on February 27, 2004, 04:39:44 PM
Danise:  Yes, if you're going to be downtown, the Planetarium is mine, all mine--no wait, I was channeling Charity Hope Valentine for a moment.  Anyway, it's right there--I think on either Main or State.  There are a lot of really neat places you can visit right in the downtown core.
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Post by: Jane on February 27, 2004, 04:40:09 PM
Re:  Peter Kastner!!  Does anyone remember his short-lived sitcom The Ugliest Girl in the World?  He cross-dressed and became a famous fashion model.

Yes!  ;D
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Post by: Panni on February 27, 2004, 04:41:33 PM
Feel better, DR Robin!

Thanks so much for posting the picture Jrand 53.

My birthday is in March, Jennifer. Next week, actually.

As for the Debbie R. picture. It was taken on the set of GIFT OF LOVE,  a Showtime movie I wrote, 1999, I think, directed by John Korty, score Lee Holdridge. Not a masterpiece, but not bad. Miss R. was nominated for an Emmy.The beginning sucks, so if you can get past that...

I have something interesting to add about the film, but the wonderdog needs to be taken for his post-dinner walk. I'll be back shortly.
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Post by: Jed on February 27, 2004, 04:44:30 PM
HHW has once again made my eating decisions for me.  After the talk of them today, I just had a lovely peanut butter and onion sandwich! :D  And, yes, butter too... most always butter on my pb sandwiches.  
Not quite brave enough to try MBarnum's PB & mayo yet...  :-\
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 27, 2004, 04:52:36 PM
HHW has once again made my eating decisions for me.  After the talk of them today, I just had a lovely peanut butter and onion sandwich! :D  And, yes, butter too... most always butter on my pb sandwiches.  
Not quite brave enough to try MBarnum's PB & mayo yet...  :-\

Right...cause 'mayo' is a big YUCK when you think of peanut butter with onion....!

But try peanut butter, mayo and banana!
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Post by: Danise on February 27, 2004, 04:56:27 PM
Thanks, Jane.  I thought he was very unusal compared to the greens/blues that most everyone has.  I've seen one with such a dark face.


Now that I relooked at the picture, RLP, he does look like an orchid!  His tail is much longer then my first fish and when he swims, he looks like a ribbon.  

I ordered my copy of Kritzer Time.  I hope I have it in time to take with me on the plane for SLC.  I'm going to need something to read/do for all those hours on the plane.

I haven't flown since my Dad passed away and that was only about 2 hours.   I hope I don't get air sick.  
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Post by: JoseSPiano on February 27, 2004, 05:02:39 PM
Ohh...

Good Afternoon!

I saw In America again this afternoon.. And cried again this afternoon.  -I think I got out the tears I held in the first time.  Much better now. ;)

While standing in line to purchase my ticket, there was a woman on her cell phone at one of the two working ticket windows.  *The other "window" was in the process of rebooting his computer, so...  She was in line to purchase tickets to The Passion of the Christ.  For her and two of her friends.  One of those friends was on the other end of her cell phone call.

-about 8 people in back of her in line.

"Oh, I just heard the guy say that the 3:30 was sold out to the lady in front of me.. Do you want to go to the 7:00?"

-3 more people in line behind her

"Oh, he just said the 7:00 is sold out... How about the 7:30?"

-2 more people in line behind her

"Oh, that might work out... OK.. Yeah... don't worry, I'll hold while you check with your sister.."

-a group starts coming through the doors

"OH!! Hold on - the guy just said that there are tickets available for the 3:30 show... He was talking about the 3:00 show.  I didn't realize they were showing it at two theatres here in this complex...  So, will that be OK?  -Yeah, I know I was running late... I meant to get here earlier, but just had too many things to do.. Oh, OK.. 3:30?  That's good, then?  Really?  And you're sister can make it too?  OK.  Good... I'm sooo happy we can all see the movie together..."

-There are about 25 people in line... however, two other ticket windows just opened...

"Oh... yeah, I can just come by and pick you guys up after I drop the kids off... Sure, no problem..."

-closes up her cell phone

"OK - I'll take 3 for the 3:30 show of "Passions"..."

AARGGHHH!!!

*And the exasperated look on the poor clerk's face was priceless...  Everytime the lady started a new thought, it looked like she was going to step away from the window in order to let someone else in front of her... But, nooo...

Oh, and then to top it all off... She paid for her tickets with a credit card... but then had to remember/decide which card to use for her "entertainment" purposes.

At least I showed up early for the movie.

And I still had a good cry.  Again. ;)
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Post by: JoseSPiano on February 27, 2004, 05:03:54 PM
-WOW, I just had another mini-frenzy!
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Post by: MBarnum on February 27, 2004, 05:07:52 PM
LOOK WHAT I FOUND//////////////

The Lost Bruce Kimmel show

If I Had a Million
 
Comedy, 52min
 
Ruth McDevitt, John Schuck, Joseph Wiseman Bruce Kimmel Peter Kastner
 

OH, cool! Now that is one I would love to see. I loved the original movie!!! We must find out which part BK was in!

BK, do you recall working with Ruth McDevitt at all? I just adored her!

And as for the other unknown show you mention, BK, what do you remember about Anne Schedeen? I like her as well!
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Post by: Noel on February 27, 2004, 05:09:36 PM
a trivia question. Name the show that features the flattering lyric:

"You're packed as solid as a knish."

It's a Bird... It's a Plane... It's SUPERMAN

from the song "You're the Woman for the Man Who Has Everything" lyric by Lee Adams; music by Charles Strouse.

I often recommend it to baritones.
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Post by: Jed on February 27, 2004, 05:13:40 PM
Right...cause 'mayo' is a big YUCK when you think of peanut butter with onion....!

Ha!  Point well taken, Ron.
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on February 27, 2004, 05:15:53 PM
You're right. You're good, Noel.

(I saw the show shortly after it opened and remember a lyric that, although true to the sleezy character played by Jack Cassidy, was racist. They must have cut it early on. It's not on the album, but one can tell from the rhyme scheme that it was replaced.)
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Post by: Panni on February 27, 2004, 05:16:33 PM
I'm back. Miss R. and I had some god chats about men - she admits that her choices have been somewhat flawed - and other things. She's a funny lady and such a pro!
So the interesting thing about GIFT OF LOVE...
It's about a small town high school student (Eldon Henson) who has only one way to make it to college and out of his town - through football. But he gives up any hope of this when his diabetic grandma's (Miss Debbie)  illness becomes so severe that she must have a kidney transplant or die. He and his grandma have a really close relationship - more like mother and son. Despite her objections, and those of everyone around him, he gives her a kidney - thereby ending his hopes of a football career.
Now I know you're all groaning. But it wasn't cloyingly sweet. I try REALLY hard not to write like that.
Anyway, United Airlines ran the movie on some of their Christmas flights. A man saw it and wrote down  on the magazine he was reading the number that was given at the end of the movie for the National Kidney Transplant Association (or whatever the name is). When he got home he called and registered. So one day he gets a call and is asked if he would donate a kidney to a total stranger. --- And he did! (That's unusual.) So somebody who might otherwise be dead is alive today because of this film. Now that's pretty cool.
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Post by: Danise on February 27, 2004, 05:17:50 PM
Speaking weird sandwiches, my Mom used to pack Ketchup and cheese for my lunch.  I HATED them.

JMK, Guess I HAVE to check out the Planetarium!  I can't wait to get my map of the city, then I'll have a better idea as to where everything is.
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Post by: Panni on February 27, 2004, 05:26:45 PM
I played Kennedy's son.
Good casting. You look exactly like him.
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Post by: bk on February 27, 2004, 05:49:57 PM
I liked Anne.  It was her first big starring role in a pilot.  She and George played a May-December couple (is that what they call it?) - in the pilot, they meet and try to decide if such a romance can work.  I played his son, Irene Tedrow (whom I adored) played his mother and my grandmother, and there were two or three others in it whose names I can't remember.  

I only remember working with Peter Kastner and Joseph Wiseman - I love McDevitt so I assume I'd remember if I'd worked with her.
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Post by: Michael on February 27, 2004, 05:50:08 PM
Here's Michael's next challenge - the name of the pilot I did with George Kennedy and Anne Schedeen for CBS.  I can never remember the name of it.  It was created by Elliot Schoenman who would later create Cosby, directed by Charles Dubin.  I played Kennedy's son.

go here to my website  http://www.brucekimmel.com/generations.htm (http://www.brucekimmel.com/generations.htm)
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Post by: Panni on February 27, 2004, 06:11:41 PM
Who starred in Francis Ford Coppola's first movie (I think it was his first) and what was the movie's title? There is a clue in one of the recent posts.
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Post by: Tomovoz on February 27, 2004, 06:16:06 PM
Dementia 13. I think he had a hand in two earlier films though. There was a mention of Finian's Rainbow on today's posts too. I am of course quite comfortabe with dementia.
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Post by: Tomovoz on February 27, 2004, 06:16:58 PM
Forgot about the "Who starred?". I don't have a clue. (Dementia does that!)
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Post by: MBarnum on February 27, 2004, 06:18:00 PM
Who starred in Francis Ford Coppola's first movie (I think it was his first) and what was the movie's title? There is a clue in one of the recent posts.

The first movie I know of him making was Battle Beyond the Sun but it starred a bunch of Russian actors...Coppola did some scenes of some monsters fighting that were added into the film when it was released in the US. Do I win, or am I way off?
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Post by: MBarnum on February 27, 2004, 06:18:50 PM
Dementia 13. I think he had a hand in two earlier films though. There was a mention of Finian's Rainbow on today's posts too. I am of course quite comfortabe with dementia.

Dementia 13 starred Mary Mitchel, Luana Anders, and William Campbell.
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Post by: MBarnum on February 27, 2004, 06:20:15 PM
BK, Irene Tedrow is great! There were so many wonderful character actresses in the 50s, 60s and 70s who never got there due, but showed up in all the tv shows! Did you ever work with Dorothy Neumann? I love here!
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Post by: Panni on February 27, 2004, 06:22:04 PM
I just looked up the dates, Tomovoz. I was wrong about it being the first. It's the first I heard of him - so I thought it WAS the first. Me, me, me!
I was thinking of YOU'RE A BIG BOY NOW, starring Peter Kastner (who was mentioned in one of bk's Pilots).
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Post by: Michael on February 27, 2004, 06:22:48 PM
Who starred in Francis Ford Coppola's first movie (I think it was his first) and what was the movie's title? There is a clue in one of the recent posts.

I think you are refering to You're a Big Boy Now with Peter Kastner, but it was not his first film. He shot new footage for what would become Battle Beyond the Sun it was originally a Russian film and he used the name Thomas Colchart. He then made some nudie films and his first real film although uncredited was The Terror with Boris Karloff. He was one of five directors, Roger Corman (credited director), Monte Hellman, Jack Hill and Jack Nicholson (who was also in it) were the othe directors
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Post by: Panni on February 27, 2004, 06:23:21 PM
Oops (Spoo) I'm so embarrassed. Sorry. Not the first, not the first.
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Post by: Tomovoz on February 27, 2004, 06:27:54 PM
At least we had to do some thinking and research Panni. I did not like to mention "Tonite For Sure" in case their were children about.
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Post by: bk on February 27, 2004, 06:32:51 PM
I have a lobby card from Tonight for Sure, one of Coppola's nudies.
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Post by: Jane on February 27, 2004, 06:43:09 PM
Panni, yea pretty cool!

TCB our festival has begun.  What do you think of THE COMEDY OF ERRORS in a Vegas like setting?
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Post by: JMK on February 27, 2004, 06:50:28 PM
I did a version of Twelfth Night with Gershwin songs interpolated, modern dress, nightclub/casino setting.  I wanted to die, but there was too long of line already just from the paying audience.
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Post by: Panni on February 27, 2004, 06:51:19 PM
What do you think of THE COMEDY OF ERRORS in a Vegas like setting?

A few years ago I saw MIDSUMMER NIGHT'S DREAM in a fifties rock & roll setting. It was faboo! Went back twice it was so good.
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Post by: Michael on February 27, 2004, 07:05:11 PM
Which reminds me Kronenberg:1582 aka Rockabye Hamlet. A score by Cliff Jones who wrote a special material song called I Love You Because Your Trash for the Julie Amato Show and which I made my TV debut in. She sang it to me
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Post by: Michael on February 27, 2004, 07:05:55 PM
DVD Player: The Extended version of Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring and Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers.
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 27, 2004, 07:15:56 PM
...I sometimes long for the days when I dreamed of being a failed playwright living in Paris who smoked and drank and whored his days away, while his unused typewriter sat on his desk waiting to be sold to supply a nasty cocaine habit.
So instead you're living in Philly?  

 ::) 8) ;D
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 27, 2004, 07:22:58 PM
DR Robin: Get well soon!

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Post by: Panni on February 27, 2004, 07:24:02 PM
W Julie Amato Show and which I made my TV debut in. She sang it to me
Are you a Canadian?
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Post by: Tomovoz on February 27, 2004, 07:26:50 PM
I think Michael will be watching LOTR. Yes! He is from Canada.
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Post by: Jed on February 27, 2004, 07:33:03 PM
I forgot to do my media check!
DVD - empty
VCR - empty
(hmmm... maybe it's not so surprising I forgot to do this...)
CD - The Intimate P.D.Q. Bach, The Ill-Conceived P.D.Q. Bach Anthology, and, currently being listened to, The Wurst of P.D.Q. Bach
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 27, 2004, 07:42:17 PM
Re:  Peter Kastner!!  Does anyone remember his short-lived sitcom The Ugliest Girl in the World?  He cross-dressed and became a famous fashion model.
For some reason, instead of Peter Kastner I first thought of Kurt Kasznar.  Which would have been interesting casting for that series, indeed!
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Post by: bk on February 27, 2004, 07:45:15 PM
I'm watching Camp.  I'm afraid I'm going to have a minority opinion on it, so if you love this film, skip that paragraph in tomorrow's notes.  That is, IF I don't shut it off before it's over.
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Post by: Michael on February 27, 2004, 08:02:55 PM
Are you a Canadian?

I was.
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Post by: Michael on February 27, 2004, 08:12:19 PM
I'm watching Camp.  I'm afraid I'm going to have a minority opinion on it, so if you love this film, skip that paragraph in tomorrow's notes.  That is, IF I don't shut it off before it's over.

How is Stephen Sondheim's acting performance in it?
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Post by: Matt H. on February 27, 2004, 08:21:42 PM
Sorry to read of your accident, DR Robin. Hope you are getting back to normal, and here are some vibes to help you:



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Post by: Panni on February 27, 2004, 08:38:57 PM
I went to CAMP looking forward to it. I left thinking it was amateurish and stupid. As for Sondheim's performance, I think the only person who could have done a worse job of playing Sondheim is Andrew Lloyd Weber.
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Post by: Panni on February 27, 2004, 08:49:35 PM
I just turned on the TV and came across "Celebrity Spelling Bee"...  
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Post by: Jed on February 27, 2004, 08:50:54 PM
Further proof that they will televise ANYTHING now!
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on February 27, 2004, 09:11:54 PM
So instead you're living in Philly?  

Yep.  And I'm a computer systems architect, to boot.

Here's something for all the Peter Kastner fans who are here tonight:

"Who owns that fabulous face?
The ugliest girl in town!
Whose styles are setting the pace?
The ugliest girl in town!
You don't have to be a
Mia or Sofia
This is the year of the clown
Be the eekiest, creepiest, ugliest girl in town!"

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Post by: Jennifer on February 27, 2004, 09:17:50 PM
I actually also came across Celebrity Spelling bee tonight.

It was quite entertaining.

But I don't understand why they didn't ask the little boy genius when they weren't sure of the correct spellings.

It really didn't seem fair. But there was this little boy - spelling bee champ. And the players were allowed to ask him whenever they wanted (except for the speed rounds).

I know this was for charity, but I cannot believe that some celebs were willing to make such fools of themselves.

Wow!
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Post by: bk on February 27, 2004, 09:19:22 PM
Say, where in tarnation IS everyone?  I'm trying to learn what they wrote for me for tomorrow, but my mind is so not used to learning things by heart I just don't know what I'm going to do, other than write a condensed version of it on my clipboard that I'll have, just so I don't make an utter fool of myself.
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Post by: Jane on February 27, 2004, 09:22:54 PM
I forgot to answer today’s question.
TIVO: FOR HEAVENS SAKE

Good night.
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Post by: Panni on February 27, 2004, 09:33:58 PM
Alice Cooper was one of the contestants on Celebrity Spelling.
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Post by: bk on February 27, 2004, 10:00:44 PM
Denizens of the world, unite!
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Post by: George on February 27, 2004, 10:04:44 PM
I'm watching Camp.  I'm afraid I'm going to have a minority opinion on it, so if you love this film, skip that paragraph in tomorrow's notes.  That is, IF I don't shut it off before it's over.

I just bought it last night.  I've only watched bits and pieces of it, but what I've seen, I thought was cute...so far.

Today (just a few hours ago, actually) I pre-ordered "Kritzer Time!"

In my CD player at work:  nothing all day.  I have a stack of CDs at work and I didn't listen to anything.

Just received in the mail:  the CD to ABBAcadabra with BONUS TRACKS from DR Tomovoz!  Thanks!

In my DVD player (for tomorrow):  "CAMP"

That's pretty much it for the media check.
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 27, 2004, 10:04:56 PM
There were a few questions earlier about Graham Kerr.  For a short bio, there's the one offered by The Food Network. (http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/graham_kerr/article/0,1974,FOOD_9886_1696219,00.html)  Extract:

The Galloping Gourmet ended in 1971 after a tragic accident left Graham temporarily paralyzed and Treena suffering from long-lasting complications. Following years of rehabilitation, they co-founded Creative Lifestyle International, an organization that teaches people how to live better with less money. But more tragedy was to come: Treena's heart attack in 1986 prompted Graham to create a new cooking style called "Minimax," food with minimized health risks and maximum aroma, color, texture and taste. Both Graham and Treena have since fully recovered.

On the other hand, there's his own website (http://www.grahamkerr.com/), from which I've extracted the following quotation:

Obesity and overweight are two such effects that lead to heart disease, hypertension, Diabetes and some cancers. The center for Disease Control estimates that over 300,000 die annually from diseases directly related to excess consumption.

Efforts to reduce weight and lessen risk currently cost $38 billion annually with an estimated 90% failure rate (expressed as weight loss maintained over 5 year period.) These statistics are interesting when compared with the US budget for Home Land Security that is also $38 billion. At this date we have suffered the death of 2,883 citizens (of many nations) on 9/11. Our death rate ratio therefore is 100 to 1 in favor of our own self destruction through excess consumption.


As I see it, Graham seems to have gone off the deep end here.  To take one event (the destruction on 9/11) and trivialize it to support another event (weight loss?) ends up trivializing the second event as much as the first.

(Yes, I confess, I've picked up the word "extract" from der Brucer.  I just hope I'm better at showing which parts are the extracts and which aren't.)
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Post by: MBarnum on February 27, 2004, 10:06:05 PM
BK, you haven't answered my question regarding character actress Dorothy Neumann so I will repeat it.

Did you ever work with or know character actress Dorothy Neumann?
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Post by: Panni on February 27, 2004, 10:06:47 PM
I can't believe it's not 2 AM (Well, I'm sure it is, somewhere). This has been the longest day....L   O   N   G
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Post by: JoseSPiano on February 27, 2004, 10:39:37 PM
Good evening!

I actually feel like I've had a long day too.  And I'm kind of tired and sleep now.  -Which is early for me. ;)

But that's a good thing since I'm planning on attending a master class that Shirley Verrett will be giving at 10:00 tomorrow morning.  10:00am - that's early for me too. ;)

So...

Goodnight.
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: bk on February 27, 2004, 10:40:48 PM
No, I never worked with and don't know Dorothy Neumann.
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: Ben on February 27, 2004, 10:49:03 PM
Jane: re the calendar. I'm not sure someone is in charge of the calendar on a day-to-day basis. Something like Echo's birthday would have been added to the calendar by a registered user. Reader Birthdays are entered automatically when a person registers and adds their birth date as part of their user information. Other calendar information can be added at any time by any registered user. I don't think Echo is a registered user who picked a birthdate so the information was entered by someone who knew Echo's birthdate. The extra birthdays should be able to be deleted by the person who entered the information. For example, on March 4th, along with Panni's birthday, there is an entry for TD's opening night. On March 21st, there is an entry for TD's closing night. Most likely, he entered those events and he can delete them if he chooses. If he looks at the calendar in March on those dates there should be a red asterisk next to the event indicating he entered the information. The following is general information for all Dear Readers regarding the calendar. To delete an event from the calendar, go to the Calendar and the date where you have entered information. When you look at the calendar, there should be a red asterisk next to that information. You can click on that asterisk (position your cursor over the asterisk and a hand will appear) and it will take you to another screen where you are given the option of further editing that information or deleting the event. If you click Delete Event it should remove the post from the calendar. So, whoever has a red asterisk next to Echo's multiple birthdays can delete that information. Remember, you only see the red asterisk if you entered the information. If you didn't enter the information, all you see is the event. If any Dear Reader is perusing this long and confusing post and you remember entering a birthday for Echo, you can go in and remove the multiple entries (of course leaving the one correct date, you can check with Jane for that information).

I think also the Administrator of the board would have the ability to delete a post from the calendar, but the Administrator does not visit the board as much as the Dear Readers so he most likely doesn't know about the multiple entries. Perhaps our own BK as Global Moderator has the power to delete calendar entries as well. I don't know how the privileges are parceled out in that respect. BK, if you're interested in checking, you can look at the calendar and if the previously mentioned red asterisk appears next to Echo's birthdays, you can delete the entries.

It's 1:44 am in the morning here and I'm not usually on this late but I just got in from a performance and night out w/friends. I saw the entries about the calendar and Echo's birthday and thought I would try to clear up some of the confusion. I hope this long entry makes sense. If it's still confusing, let me know and I'll try to make it more clear.
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: bk on February 27, 2004, 11:05:41 PM
When is Echo's actual birthday?
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: Panni on February 27, 2004, 11:11:25 PM
I think I'll get ready for bed and say good-night. But if I can't sleep, I'll come back. Good-night?
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: George on February 27, 2004, 11:16:53 PM
Me, too.  Goodnight Panni and BK (the only two others here right now).
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: Jed on February 27, 2004, 11:24:29 PM
BK - Jane said earlier that Echo's birthday is the 9th.
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: bk on February 27, 2004, 11:37:59 PM
Then I shall remove all but the ninth.
Title: Re:IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
Post by: TCB on February 27, 2004, 11:41:42 PM
Panni, yea pretty cool!

TCB our festival has begun.  What do you think of THE COMEDY OF ERRORS in a Vegas like setting?


Actually, Jane, I think that might work very well.