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Title: IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: bk on March 02, 2004, 12:01:08 AM
Well, you've read the notes, if you were asked questions about the notes you'd be able to answer them, you would pass any test on the notes with flying colors.  Hence, it is time to post until the cows come home and send us sailing over the 30,000 post mark.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: S. Woody White on March 02, 2004, 12:37:44 AM
For those trying to remember what films Natalie Wood starred in, I suggest checking her listing at imdb. (http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0000081/)

I thought she was perfect in The Great Race.  And she got to do her own singing!  (Nice change of pace.)
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Charles Pogue on March 02, 2004, 12:43:33 AM
Favourite Natalie Wood movies:

THE SEARCHERS

MIRACLE ON 34TH STREET

I remember fondly MARJORIE MORNINGSTAR, but I admit I haven't seen it since I was about fourteen.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: S. Woody White on March 02, 2004, 12:48:57 AM
Here's an interesting news story I came across, for those who are curious as to why they imbibe what they do. (http://www.napanews.com/templates/index.cfm?template=story_full&id=5CDDD999-D462-4185-BD8E-AC6DEBF6660D)  It doesn't have anything to do with Natalie Wood, however.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: S. Woody White on March 02, 2004, 02:06:29 AM
There's also this tidbit from Playbill about Spamalot. (http://www.playbill.com/news/article/84680.html)  It would be more interesting if they'd mentioned Natalie Wood, of course.  Can't have everything.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Michael on March 02, 2004, 03:34:41 AM
let's get it out of our system right now......

What is the only kind of wood that doesn't float?

Natalie
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Michael on March 02, 2004, 03:41:32 AM
Natalie Wood Movies.

Tomorrow is Forever. Orson Welles and Claudette Colbert are the stars, but Natalie made an impression.

Rebel Without a Cause. Interesting to see her transition from child to young adult and she successfully does it.

Cat On a Hot Tin Roof. I thought she did a great job as Maggie. With Laurence Olivier, Maureen Stapleton and RJ
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Michael on March 02, 2004, 03:44:37 AM
There's also this tidbit from Playbill about Spamalot. (http://www.napanews.com/templates/index.cfm?template=story_full&id=5CDDD999-D462-4185-BD8E-AC6DEBF6660D)  It would be more interesting if they'd mentioned Natalie Wood, of course.  Can't have everything.

I tried the link. It gets a article about Trader Joes
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Michael on March 02, 2004, 03:54:31 AM
I perused the bio of Natalie Wood. It did not have nice things to say about Lana Wood, Natalie's sister. It seemed that she demanded money and Natalie's clothes almost immediatly after her death. She even arrived unannounced and removed the clothes which she immediatly sold the clothes for cash. Lana Wood has not acted in 20 years and has whored off money from Natalie's memory. She prpduced the tv film and in an interview I saw prior to it she went on to say how much she loved her sister and wanted to celebrate her life etc etc. She also has been alienated from her neices because in her memoir about her sister she said that Robert Wagner had a trole in the death of her sister
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Robin on March 02, 2004, 03:59:05 AM
I avoided the Natalie Wood bio-pic.  Looked big-time tacky, even if it was directed by Peter Bogdanovich.  

As to my favorite Natalie Wood picture, it's gotta be Rebel Without a Cause.  And that would also contain one of my all-time favorite film scores, by Leonard Rosenman.  

I also really like Natalie in The Ghost and Mrs. Muir and The Searchers, and both of those movies sport excellent scores (by Bernard Herrmann and Max Steiner, respectively).
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on March 02, 2004, 04:51:33 AM
DR MICHAELSHAYNE - does Richard Costa sing as nice as he looks?  ;)

So many lovely posts yesterday.  Denny Miller has a memoir coming out - HURRAY!!!  I have only two words to say:  Mona McCluskey!

Natalie Wood - now we're talking.  Like MR BK, I love her in GYPSY....she and Rosalind Russell were TOPS in their roles!  REBEL of course.  And I adore THE GREAT RACE and the lovely song "The Sweetheart Tree."

My favorite score for a non-musical Natalie Wood film would go to one mentioned by DRCHARLES POGUE:  Max Steiner's music for MARJORIE MORNINGSTAR.  And I love that movie.  Natalie is so gorgeous....yearning to be an actress and falling for sappy Gene Kelly who is years too old for her (and the movie) - a beautiful theme song "A Very Precious Love" - and Natalie ends up with Martin Milner!  I repeat, I love that movie!  On DVD but in fullscreen!  In supporting roles Carolyn Jones, Claire Trevor, Ed Wynn, Everett Sloane, and Edd Byrnes!  8)
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Lulu on March 02, 2004, 04:57:01 AM
Favorite Natalie Wood film is definitely Miracle on 34th Street (also one of my all-time favorite movies, period).

A woman I used to work with owned (for a brief period) the Splendor (THE boat).

I remember being shocked when Natalie died.  At the time I was just beginning to reach the age of reason, and  I strongly identified with the little girl in Miracle on 34th Street.  It was difficult enough for me to realize that the little girl was now a middle-aged woman.  Just as I got a handle on that concept, she was dead. :(

I think Lana did love her sister, but I also think she's quite emotionally disturbed.  Her relationship with Natalie was extremely rocky before the tragedy.  Afterwards, she completely alienated RJ and the girls.  And why on earth would she choose the same stage surname as Natalie if she wasn't trying to cash in on her sister's success?  I'm sure in Lana's own mind she's the innocent, victimized party; but that doesn't make it so.

RE: The Trader Joe's article - I'm a confirmed wine drinker.  I can't stand beer or (straight) booze.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Lulu on March 02, 2004, 04:58:05 AM
jrand, I think Carolyn Jones was nominated for a Best Supporting Actress Oscar for her role in Marjorie Morningstar.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on March 02, 2004, 05:17:26 AM
DR Lulu - it certainly was a GOOD role for her!  LOL...my mind still reels at the idea of Natalie Wood & Carolyn Jones in the same acting class at Hunter College - doing 'Romeo & Juliet'!
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Kerry on March 02, 2004, 05:53:02 AM
Well, I've only had time to read half of yesterdays' posts, bk's notes from yesterday and today's posts. I'll have wait  until later to read the notes and the rest of the posts.   But if we're talking about Natalie Wood, I loved her.  I always did and always will. I could not (and still can't) believe it when she drowned.  My mother, knowing how much I'd always liked Ms. Wood, actually callled me up to tell me how sorry she was for me.  I thought that was very sweet of her.

I will talk more of Ms. Wood later, but among other things she had to be one of the best dressed women in Hollywood.    Just start noticing pictures of her.  She always knew what to wear and how to wear it.  But that's not why I loved her-- it's just a side note.

Talk to y'all later.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: elmore3003 on March 02, 2004, 05:53:25 AM
DR Laura II, I thought the big secret was that she had a child from a previous relationship or that she was a transexual, so I'm still stunned the blond moron who seemed to be there for 2 reasons,  be an actor and get laid, dumped her over Fabio!  The show should be called "Average Joes, Shallow Joes, and Bimbos."

Natalie Wood!  Why would anyone seriously, BK, watch a guaranteed turkey unless you're waiting for a thermometer to pop out?  Some of these tv bios, not all,  are so grisly they're like watching traffic disasters and you can't take your eyes off them from the horror.  I think the best ones are bios of persons so long dead that there's no risk of  libel suits from any living parties.  Of course, in this age of dummification, the tv execs may have thought poor Miss Wood was long dead.

My favorite films of Miss Natalie:
  1.  GYPSY
  2.  WEST SIDE STORY, she's no more Puerto Rican than I, but she's so much prettier!
  3.  INSIDE DAISY CLOVER
  4.  MIRACLE ON 34th STREET
  5.  THE SEARCHERS, not because of Miss Natalie, whom I barely recall, but because it's one my favorite films

I've always wanted to see MARJORIE MORNINGSTAR, and I need to see THE GREAT RACE again; my only memory is the pie fight, and I always thought it and THOSE MAGNIFICENT MEN IN THEIR FLYING MACHINES nevere lived up to their comic hype.  I was 18 then; I could be wrong.

Now, I have to admit, I have no memory of any film scores to her films except for the two musicals, so I beg your forgiveness here.

BK, I enjoyed MATCHSTICK MEN a lot.  It's one of the few films of the many I've seen in the past several years that seemed worth the $10.00 price of admission.  Most of what I've seen isn't worth a rental fee.

Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on March 02, 2004, 06:09:58 AM
Yes DRKerry - Natalie always looked lovely...in the clothes that Lana went on to sell....  And watch your mailbox - a CD is on it's way to YOU!

DRElmore3003 - I forgot to add DAISY CLOVER to my list...and I do implore you to find MARJORIE...it's All Natalie All the Time - and when she finally calls Gene Kelly a  "...tramp..." and walks out, and when she goes back to visit the camp where she worked and sees that he will NEVER change....well it's a bittersweet, lovely moment.  Did I ever say, I LOVE THIS movie?
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: DERBRUCER on March 02, 2004, 06:15:05 AM
I tried the link. It gets a article about Trader Joes

That's the beer drinking link from SWW's previous post.

Here is what he meant to post  (http://www.playbill.com/news/article/82774.html) I presume.

der ever-the-editor Brucer
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: DERBRUCER on March 02, 2004, 06:21:48 AM
TOD:

Favorite Natalie Wood Movie:

Rebel Without a Cause -'cause I got to fantasize about both James Dean and Sal Mineo.

The music was by a Leonard Rosenman   who also wrote music for :

Twilight Zone
2 Planet of the Apes movies
Barry Lyndon
Star Trek IV
Neil Diamond’s Jazz Singer
Macus Welby
Quincy
The Defenders

and lots more.

der Brucer (talk about a career too short - James Dean!)


Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: DERBRUCER on March 02, 2004, 06:24:33 AM
I can't stand beer or (straight) booze.

I'm sure there are many of us who could direct you to some gay tipple.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: William E. Lurie on March 02, 2004, 06:25:49 AM
Natalie was always my second favorite non-MGM child actress (second only to Susan Gordon).  I remember her sitcom "Pride of the Family" where she played the daughter of Fay "King Kong" Wray.  Though she was much more glamorous as an adult, I still think of her as the girl who didn't believe in Santa in "Miracle on 34th Street".

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Last night we did something I never thought we would do.  We taped "American Idol" so we could zap through it to see William Hung, whose publicity you can't escape and who has been discussed on this here site at length.  What a disappointment.  I was expecting a so-bad-he's-good singer and instead I got someone who has no talent, no voice and no stage presence and who is either the world's greatest put-on artist or someone so dumb he doesn't realize that people are laughing  at him, not with him.  When he sang "Can You Feel the Love Tonight" I felt sorry for Michael Eisner for the first time.  And what was that other song he sang?  Does "bangs" mean what I think it means?  
However all I can say is that if it got me to tape and watch part of "American Idol" for the first (and most likely last) time, he must be doing something right.

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There was a 2-page full color ad in today's NY Times for a new Disney movie opening Christmas 2005.  It's a remake of "The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe".  How many versions does this make counting television and movie theatre versions?  Do we really need another remake?  Maybe that is why they are starting the ads 22 months early.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Jennifer on March 02, 2004, 06:56:26 AM
I thought William Hung was hilarious on last night's American Idol. He is a terrible singer.  But he's just so sweet that he makes me smile. And the back-up dancers made it even better! :)

As for Average Joe's finale: It made me happy.  I knew she would pick the hunk Gil.   But he was awful. He  had no personality and they had no chemistry.  Poor Average Joe Brian was totally in love with her. And as usual she led him on.

But the fact that they made it seem like she might pick Brian, made it clear she WOULD NOT. That is how these shows work.

I agree that they should not mislead the audience, especially when it just makes people angry with the outcome. However in this case I think it worked.  Because people were so annoyed that she would hurt Brian, that they were happy, when the doorknob Gil dumped her because she used to date Fabio. Huh?!?!? How dumb was this guy. He really dumped the woman who he supposedly cared for because of that?  And that was a deep dark secret?  OMG, I think the shallow title was appropriate.

I felt really bad for the Average Joe. Poor guy.  I do see what Larissa said though. She desperately wanted to feel for him what he felt for her. However I think she gave him false hope. And that is the part that bugged me. She was kissing him and she shouldn't have done that if she knew her heart wasn't there! :(
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Dan (the Man) on March 02, 2004, 07:09:57 AM
The music was by a Leonard Rosenman   who also wrote music for :

Twilight Zone
2 Planet of the Apes movies
Barry Lyndon
Star Trek IV
Neil Diamond’s Jazz Singer
Macus Welby
Quincy
The Defenders

and lots more.

Including the gawd-awful Ralph Bashki animated Lord of the Rings.  While Rosenman did come up with a catchy little march for the main theme, the rest of the score all sounds like recycled Marcus Welby music.

I loved Natasha in Miracle on 34th Street, Gypsy, Inside Daisy Clover, Splendor in the Grass, and in the silly little Penelope.  I also remember her being very effective in Brainstorm, her last movie.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: DERBRUCER on March 02, 2004, 07:23:02 AM
...the rest of the score all sounds like recycled Marcus Welby music.


I thought we were supposed to support recyling?

der "HHW Social Policy Director" Brucer
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Lulu on March 02, 2004, 07:24:03 AM
I'm sure there are many of us who could direct you to some gay tipple.

A white wine spritzer?  Dubonnet with a twist?  Cabana Boy Rum Sunset?

Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: MBarnum on March 02, 2004, 07:33:41 AM
Sex and the Single Girl (or course I haven't seen that film since I was about 10)

Rebel Without a Cause

Ghost and Mrs. Muir

Miracle on 34th Street

Marjorie Morningstar

JRand53, did you see Marty Milner and Kent McCord on Hollywood Squares last week? Boy, Kent still is a hottie!
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Matt H. on March 02, 2004, 07:33:51 AM
Some corrections:

Natalie did not do her own singing in THE GREAT RACE (the guitar strumming was also dubbed). Her vocals were dubbed by Jackie Ward who also sang for her in INSIDE DAISY CLOVER. Natalie did her own singing in GYPSY and PENELOPE.

Carolyn Jones did not get an Oscar nomination for MARJORIE MORNINGSTAR. Carolyn earned her only Oscar nomination for THE BACHELOR PARTY.

My favorite Natalie Wood performance is in GYPSY. She is the most moving Gypsy I've ever seen, and I've seen the show on Broadway (Tyne Daly version), the Midler-TV version, and countless regional and community theater versions. And once she grows up and gets into and out of those spectacular gowns, there's no one who can touch her. (Of course, she looked nothing like the real Gypsy, but GYPSY is, after all, a "musical fable").

Other Wood movies I also adore: THE GREAT RACE (she hated it and thought she was terrible in it; I love her and the movie and always have), INSIDE DAISY CLOVER, MIRACLE ON 34TH STREET, THE LAST MARRIED COUPLE IN AMERICA). I have not seen THIS PROPERTY IS CONDEMNED, but now that it's available on DVD, I will see it.
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Post by: Matt H. on March 02, 2004, 07:34:56 AM
Argh! I also mention to mention the movie she got her third Oscar nomination for: LOVE WITH THE PROPER STRANGER. I thought she was stupendous in that.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: JMK on March 02, 2004, 07:39:03 AM
BK, glad you took my recommendation on the low-carb bread.  I find it approaches almost-almost breadness if you lightly toast it first.

I, too, love Natalie in The Great Race.  One of my sisters took me to see it when it first came out and I was mortified when she began singing--loudly--in the theater when the "little bouncing ball" led us through The Sweetheart Tree.  By the second verse the entire theater was singing.  Thus began my lifelong phobia of karaoke.  :)
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Matt H. on March 02, 2004, 07:40:57 AM
Of course, Natalie did sing (badly) that impromptu version of "America" late in the GREAT RACE film. Jackie Ward dubbed "The Sweetheart Tree" for her, and it's a gorgeous rendition of it, too.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Matt H. on March 02, 2004, 07:43:43 AM
As far as the big star who allegedly raped Natalie Wood as a kid, the scuttlebutt around is that it was Kirk Douglas. But that's just a rumor. Who knows if we'll ever know the truth.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Panni on March 02, 2004, 08:00:12 AM
Good Morning. Trying to find a fave Natalie Wood movie, I realize how many great films she was in. Either she or her agents had excellent taste in choosing material. It's hard to list favorites, so my list is long...
MIRACLE ON 34TH STREET
INSIDE DAISY CLOVER
MARJORIE MORNINGSTAR
THE SEARCHERS
SPLENDOR IN THE GRASS
LOVE WITH A PROPER STRANGER
THIS PROPERTY IS CONDEMNED
WEST SIDE STORY
GYPSY
BOB&CAROL&TED&ALICE (although I haven't seen it in decades and don't know how I'd feel about it today)

My daughter, when she was very young, was always being told she looked like a young Natalie Wood (and Natalie Portman). In fact, when we were living in LA (the first time) she played Susan in the LA premiere of the stage version of MIRACLE ON 34th STREET. I just recently got a photo of her (and lovely mother) on the day of her 20th birthday when I went to visit her in San Francisco, and will e-mail it to JRand53 to ask him to post it. She no longer looks like either of the Natalies, but is lovely in her own right.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: DERBRUCER on March 02, 2004, 08:02:50 AM
My contribution to International Relations and World Peace!

A Stately Story

An American tourist in London decides to skip his tour group and explore the
city on his own. He wanders around, seeing the sights, and occasionally
stopping at a quaint pub to soak up the local culture, chat with the
lads, and have a pint of Guinness.

After awhile, he finds himself in a very high class neighborhood....big, stately residences...no pubs, no stores,     no restaurants, and worst of all...  NO PUBLIC RESTROOMS.

He really, really has to go, after all those Guinness's. He finds a narrow side street, with high walls surrounding the adjacent buildings and decides to use the wall to solve his problem.

As he is unzipping, he is tapped on the shoulder by a London Bobbie, who says, "I say, sir, you simply cannot do that here, you know."

"I'm very sorry, officer," replies the American, "but I really, really HAVE TO GO, and I just can't find a public restroom."

"Ah, yes," said the Bobbie..."Just follow me". He leads him to a back "delivery alley", then along a wall to a     gate, which he opens". In there," points the Bobbie. "Whiz away, ...anywhere you want."

The fellow enters and finds himself in the most beautiful garden he has ever seen. Manicured grass lawns, statuary, fountains, sculptured hedges, and huge beds of gorgeous flowers, all in perfect bloom.

Since he has the cop's blessing, he zips down and unburdens himself and is greatly relieved.

As he goes back thru the gate, he says to the Bobbie "That was really decent of you .... is that "British Hospitality?"

"No" replied the Bobbie, with a satisfied smile on his face, "that is the French Embassy."

der Brucer (hoping NOT to prompt a flood of postings about private acts in public places)

Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: bk on March 02, 2004, 08:03:17 AM
One must mention the score to Daisy Clover, which is quite wonderful - by Andre Previn, with songs by Andre and his then wife Dory.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: DERBRUCER on March 02, 2004, 08:10:07 AM
A respectful comment about next years HHW Oscar Party!


Today's LA Times reports on The best supporting supper (http://www.latimes.com/features/lifestyle/la-et-menu1mar01,1,5906539.story?coll=la-headlines-lifestyle) as follows:

Inspired by a chandelier-hung ballroom ambience he compared to "the palace at Versailles," chef Wolfgang Puck created an elegant supper for the 1,650 guests attending the Governors Ball:

An antipasti course including smoked salmon served on Oscar-shaped flatbread, roasted peppers and white anchovies and beet and goat cheese napoleon.

A first course of roasted Yukon Gold potatoes with crème fraîche and Osetra caviar; an entree of roasted filet mignon and Maine lobster with two truffle sauces.

"Dessert Oscar," the pièce de résistance, a Viennese chocolate torte topped with a gold-dusted 6-inch chocolate Oscar statuette.

With a 1,200-member staff — including 150 chefs, 453 waiters, 50 bartenders and 50 managers — Puck planned on slicing up the $20,000 worth of black truffles from Périgord, France, himself.


Now Ham chunks and Cheese slices holds no candle to this repast.

I think Jose and Woody should join forces and create a HHW Oscar Party menu to enthral all the Hainesies/Kimlets and breathing Guests.

der Brucer (and Jane or no Jane, no Tofu!)

Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on March 02, 2004, 08:16:51 AM
No DRMBARNUM I did not see the Adam-12 boys reunited on Hollywood Squares - maybe I can catch it when it rerun late at night around here!  Did they share a cube?  Who was driving?

I remember a skit they did once in their uniforms on Laugh-In....  They were in the front seat and Kent turned to Marty and said..."Well how about it?"  Marty says:  "What do you mean?"  Kent:  "Don't you think it's about time? After all we've been partners for years."   Marty: "Do you really want to?"  Kent: "Yes, you know I do."  Marty stops the car and says:  "Okay, you can drive."  LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!

DR Panni mentioned a movie I was about to post....BOB & CAROL & TED & ALICE!  
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Matt H. on March 02, 2004, 08:20:09 AM
I thought about listing BOB & CAROL & TED & ALICE, too, but it was so much a movie of its time, and I wasn't sure it would play at all today. I haven't seen it since it first came out.
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Post by: Matt H. on March 02, 2004, 08:21:20 AM
I wish Warners would remaster INSIDE DAISY CLOVER and release it on DVD. I play my laserdisc of it quite a bit.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on March 02, 2004, 08:24:27 AM
Same for me DR MATTH - not sure if BCTA would play - or even be watchable today.  I know that even though at the time I thought Dyan Cannon was just the living end - it is hard for me to watch those performances now.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Jennifer on March 02, 2004, 08:27:32 AM
I'm curious, how many carbs are there in one slice of low carb bread?
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on March 02, 2004, 08:30:55 AM
DR Jennifer is it a dual carburator or a four barrel carburator?
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Lulu on March 02, 2004, 08:36:44 AM
This has nothing to do with anything, but a strange thing has happened to me.

For the past two days, my upper lip has been somewhat puffy and Angelina Jolie-esque.  And I have no idea why!  Did I bite my lip in my sleep?  Is my husband bashing me in the mouth and I'm not realizing it?  Or what??

I can't believe there are women who pay thousands of dollars for this.  I don't like it.

Anybody got a cure?  Anybody else ever had this happen to them?
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: JMK on March 02, 2004, 08:39:50 AM
Jennifer, the Oroweat low carb bread has 6g net carbs (9g total - 3g fiber).  There's another low-carb bread available here in the NW (I don't think it's available nationally) by NatureBake, that has only 5g net carbs, but it's not quite as tasty as the Oroweat (damning with faint praise).  There are a number of "reduced carb" breads available up here now with net carbs in the range of 10g - 15g per slice.  Methinks if you're not compulsive about your carb intake that those might taste a little more like real food.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Lulu on March 02, 2004, 08:40:23 AM
Just another random thought: I think I would have more thoroughly enjoyed some of Natalie Wood's later roles if they hadn't happened to fall into that era when highly histrionic performances were de rigeur.  I'm just not about that.

I'm thinking mainly of Rebel Without a Cause and Splendor in the Grass.  Whenever they do a clip thingy they invariably represent Splendor in the Grass with the scene where she splashes around in the bathtub while screaming at her mom, "I'm just as pure and virginal as the day I was born!!!" NOT her best moment, IMO.  I much prefer the scene in the classroom when she quaveringly reads aloud from Wordsworth's poem and, as she begins to break down, and obscuring half her face with her hand, walks up to the teacher (Sybil's mom) and whispers, "May I please be ex--" then runs out into the hallway.  

Why do they never show THAT scene?
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Lulu on March 02, 2004, 08:42:04 AM
I eat Arnold's reduced carb (6 net grams per slice) bread.  Or whole wheat pita.  Or whole wheat lavash.

South Beach is SO much less restrictive than Atkins. :)
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Panni on March 02, 2004, 08:48:17 AM
I thought Dyan Cannon was just the living end - it is hard for me to watch those performances now.
And now that Miss Cannon is a minister with her own church, it would be sacrilegious.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on March 02, 2004, 08:52:04 AM
And now that Miss Cannon is a minister with her own church, it would be sacrilegious.

That must be a WILD communion!   :P
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Charles Pogue on March 02, 2004, 09:01:02 AM
I think William Hung should take some of the money he is making right now during his fifteen minutes of infamy and get extensive work done on his teeth.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: JoseSPiano on March 02, 2004, 09:02:51 AM
Good morning!

Natalie Wood movies - Hmmm, there are a lot of them I haven't seen, but the ones I have seen, I have liked.  So, off the top of my head:

West Side Story
Gypsy - I, too, love her transformation in the final part of the movie.  And that final scene!
Brainstorm - I remember all the publicity about this movie since it was her last one.  And what an interesting topic too - kind of spooky.
Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice - I always remembered hearing about how scandalous this film was when I was a kid.  It just always seemed to come up on various tv shows, magazine articles, etc.  Well... I remember staying up really late when I was about 10 or 11 since it was coming on in the wee hours of the morning on cable - actually, it may have even been one of the local station's late night movies.  So, I watched it... And, afterwards, my pre-adolescent self felt very gipped!  (gypped - sp?)  And tired and sleepy.  What was the big deal?  Of course, I did realize that having four people in one bed at once was/is quite scandalous, but where was the flesh?  Show me some skin! -Maybe it was just on one of the local stations then.  I've been tempted to rent it, but it's not that high on my "must-see" list.  ;)

I'll have to investigate the other favorites and recommendations that other DRs have listed.

DR George - Glad to know the music finally got to you!  And enjoy the "bonus" material too! :)

Well, it's laundry day for me - I need clean clothes for Chattanooga.  Thankfully, my small "excavation" project this morning was successful.  I lost track of some receipts and one credit card, and after some sorting and re-sorting, they turned up.  Whew!

Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: William E. Lurie on March 02, 2004, 09:03:19 AM
I thought William Hung was hilarious on last night's American Idol. He is a terrible singer.  But he's just so sweet that he makes me smile.

Jennifer you don't get it.  He's happy because he isn't aware that he is the object of a very cruel practical joke.  He thinks he is a good singer and since he is so bad and so dorky everyone is going along with him.  He almost seems like he might have a mild case of Downs Syndrome.  I don't think he will seem so happy when he finally discovers the truth.  You could tell the way the girls in the audience were snickering at him as they asked their questions what the audience really thought of him.  It's like when a group of cruel high school students elect the class nerd as Homecoming King.  Unless Mr. Hung is just putting on a big act, the truth will totally destroy him.  
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: DERBRUCER on March 02, 2004, 09:07:36 AM
In a more serious vein (A Dracula reference):

Here is a rarity today, a Review of The Passion (http://www.beliefnet.com/story/135/story_13565.html) that neither rants nor hollers:

Mel Gibson's Two Movies

It is crucial for Jews and Christians to try to understand what version of 'The Passion' the other is watching and reacting to.  
 
By Dennis Prager  
...

When watching "The Passion," Jews and Christians are watching two entirely different films.

For two hours, Christians watch their Savior tortured and killed. For the same two hours, Jews watch Jews arrange the killing and torture of the Christians' Savior.
 
In order to avoid further tension between two wonderful communities that had been well on their way to historic amity, it is crucial for each to try to understand what film the other is watching and reacting to.
 
First, what Jews see. The Jews in the film (except, of course, for those who believe in Jesus) are cruel and often sadistic. One prominent Christian who saw the film along with my wife and me said that while watching the film he wanted to take a gun and shoot those who had brought such pain to Jesus. I couldn't blame him. The Jews in the film manipulate the Romans -- who are depicted as patsies of the Jews and in the case of Pilate, as morally far more elevated -- into torturing and murdering a beautiful man.
 
Why does this bother Jews so much? Because for nearly 2,000 years, attacked as "Christ-killers," countless Jewish men, women and children were tortured and murdered in ways that often caused more suffering than even Jesus endured (e.g., not only tortured and murdered themselves, but also seeing their families and friends raped, tortured and murdered). For Jews to worry that a major movie made by one of the world's superstars depicts Jews as having Christ tortured and killed might arouse anti-Semitic passions is not paranoid. Even though Islam denies the crucifixion, it is difficult to imagine that this film will not be a hit in the virulently anti-Semitic Arab world.

It is essential that Christians understand this. Every Jew, secular, religious, assimilated, left-wing, right-wing, fears being killed because he is Jewish. This is the best-kept secret about Jews, who are widely perceived as inordinately secure and powerful. But it is the only universally held sentiment among Jews. After the Holocaust and with Islamic terrorists seeking to murder Jews today, this, too, is not paranoid.

However, what Jews need to understand is that most American Christians watching this film do not see "the Jews" as the villains in the passion story historically, let alone today. First, most American Christians -- Catholic and Protestant -- believe that a sinning humanity killed Jesus, not "the Jews." Second, they know that Christ's entire purpose was to come to this world and to be killed for humanity's sins. To the Christian, God made it happen, not the Jews or the Romans (the Book of Acts says precisely that). Third, a Christian who hates Jews today for what he believes some Jews did 2,000 years ago only reflects on the low moral, intellectual and religious state of that Christian. Imagine what Jews would think of a Jew who hated Egyptians after watching "The Ten Commandments," and you get an idea of how most Christians would regard a Christian who hated Jews after watching "The Passion."


I particular find the "two different film " argument informative.
So often viewers' reactions to books/films/shows are significantly warped by the "personal baggage" they bring to the experience. None on us can be purely objective, but some of us like to think we give the old "college try".

der Brucer (HHW's answer to Rex Reed)
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Ron Pulliam on March 02, 2004, 09:23:32 AM
I agree about William Hung.

Sadly, the thought of getting his teeth corrected, possibly with porcelain veneers, probably hasn't entered his mind.

I'm glad he's making the most of all of this, but he seems to believe he will be getting "better" and that there is a possibility of a "career."

Do you suppose it has never occurred to him that he is a national joke?
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: DERBRUCER on March 02, 2004, 09:30:21 AM
... And, afterwards, my pre-adolescent self felt very gipped!  (gypped - sp?)  

Wye Double Pee is correct. Usage of the term is now probably "Politically Incorrect", considering it's presumed origins. to which abridged versions of dictionaries do not even allude.

der Brucer (who had to spend the last 20 minutes finding the box with the Unabridged in it.)
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Jennifer on March 02, 2004, 09:31:58 AM
Jennifer you don't get it.  He's happy because he isn't aware that he is the object of a very cruel practical joke.  He thinks he is a good singer and since he is so bad and so dorky everyone is going along with him.  He almost seems like he might have a mild case of Downs Syndrome.  I don't think he will seem so happy when he finally discovers the truth.  You could tell the way the girls in the audience were snickering at him as they asked their questions what the audience really thought of him.  It's like when a group of cruel high school students elect the class nerd as Homecoming King.  Unless Mr. Hung is just putting on a big act, the truth will totally destroy him.  

I see what you're saying and I could be wrong.  I just don't think that he believes he is a great singer.  I think he knows that people simply find him funny and entertaining.

And I don't think people are snickering at him.  I think they genuinely like him.  

To me he is different than most of the other awful AI singers, because he makes me smile.  And it's not because I'm embarrassed for him.  He just has a personality that is contagious.  He entertains me.

Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: DERBRUCER on March 02, 2004, 09:32:51 AM
I need clean clothes for Chattanooga.  

You have a date with Tulsa's brother?
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Jennifer on March 02, 2004, 09:35:51 AM
Jennifer, the Oroweat low carb bread has 6g net carbs (9g total - 3g fiber).  There's another low-carb bread available here in the NW (I don't think it's available nationally) by NatureBake, that has only 5g net carbs, but it's not quite as tasty as the Oroweat (damning with faint praise).  There are a number of "reduced carb" breads available up here now with net carbs in the range of 10g - 15g per slice.  Methinks if you're not compulsive about your carb intake that those might taste a little more like real food.

But doesn't a slice of regular white bread only have like 13g of carbs?

Thanks for the info, I'd like to try a low carb bread. I'll bet it's available in the US in regular grocery stores.  But I think Canada is behind the times in the low carb craze. There is basically nothing low carb in regular grocery stores here.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: DERBRUCER on March 02, 2004, 09:38:35 AM
And in a lighter vein ( a Tom Cruise as Lestat reference):

A New Yorker (http://www.newyorker.com/shouts/content/) column proposes a ban on Samish-Sex Marriages and provides a Manly Scale of Absolute Gender.

der Brucer (who's that cartoon kid that keeps calling his lunch a "Samish'?)
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Jay on March 02, 2004, 09:48:15 AM
There was a 2-page full color ad in today's NY Times for a new Disney movie opening Christmas 2005.  It's a remake of "The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe".  How many versions does this make counting television and movie theatre versions?  Do we really need another remake?  Maybe that is why they are starting the ads 22 months early.


The same ad appeared in today's L.A. Times.  I am quite sure the timing and the placement of these ads are tied to the Disney annual meeting tomorrow.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: DERBRUCER on March 02, 2004, 09:50:36 AM
He almost seems like he might have a mild case of Downs Syndrome.

As much as I might personally disparage the faculty at UC Berkeley, and think the Administration probably carries non-discriminatory admission policies to extreme, to suggest that one of their Civil Engineering students might have a mild case of Downs Syndrome is a bit much. (Now in the case of their PoliSci students........)

der Defender of Engineers Brucer
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Emily on March 02, 2004, 09:50:48 AM
Good morning Haineshisway! :D

The Dell guy is coming today between 3 and 5pm (I have to RUUUUNNNN home from my last class to be there on time) to fix the computer from hell.  Hopefully it will now be heavenly.  

I share your feelings about Hung being the object of a cruel joke. The girls in the audience were actually snickering at him as they asked whether he had a girlfriend or not.  This whole thing reminds me of the "Star Wars Kid" phenomenon.   The internet can be a cruel place to gain infamy.

I don't know much about Natalie Wood and did not watch the movie last night.  I liked her in WSS even if she didn't sing (but that's a musical so doesn't count in today's topic.)    

Oh well... hopefully I'll be able to post from home tonight.  Cross your fingers and "enviben" me please :)

Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: William E. Lurie on March 02, 2004, 09:51:09 AM
Jennifer - Mr. Hung didn't make me smile... he made me cry.

I just read that at the opening night party for the FIDDLER revisal the musical director got into a fist fight with Michael Riedel and knocked Riedel down.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Emily on March 02, 2004, 09:52:40 AM
Oh and I almost forgot.

Today is Super Tuesday so if you are a registered democrat in one of the big six states... what the heck are you doing at home?

Go vote!!!
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: William E. Lurie on March 02, 2004, 09:53:55 AM
I just discovered that since I am the first post on a new page I had to manually go back to the previous page to read the posts that came in while I was typing.  From now on, if your post starts a page, go back to the end of the prior page so you won't miss anything.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: DERBRUCER on March 02, 2004, 09:56:06 AM
And will DR Jay be venturing to the Woods called North?

(http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL242/891350/2995020/47300788.jpg)

der Brucer (wondering if she'll do selections from her "The Sound of Music" album)
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: DERBRUCER on March 02, 2004, 09:58:47 AM
Oh and I almost forgot.

Today is Super Tuesday so if you are a registered democrat in one of the big six states... what the heck are you doing at home?

Go vote!!!

In CA, those registered as "Decline to State" may also vote in the Democrat primary!

der Brucer (wondering when "Decline to State" my also be a choice under "Sex")
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: William E. Lurie on March 02, 2004, 10:06:44 AM
Comment on Super Tuesday - Since I always vote for the person, not the party, I have always registered as an independent and therefore am barred from voting in primaries.  I realize that I could change my registration every election depending on who is running, but in some primaries I may favor a Republican for one position and a Democrat for another.  A lot of people may not agree with me (so what else is new?), but I think if the party system which is not a part of the Constitution were eliminated and people could run for elections based on their own beliefs and not the party's, this country might be a lot better off.  Congress would be a lot better too, because it could then operate as a group of individuals, not as two opposing groups of Congressmen.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: DERBRUCER on March 02, 2004, 10:07:36 AM
Never underestimate the power of a good PR firm:

(http://williamhung.flowgo.com/photos/Movies/11.jpg)

in a double bill with:

(http://williamhung.flowgo.com/photos/Movies/5.jpg)

der Brucer (wondering if JRand has posters like this for his show!)

Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Dan (the Man) on March 02, 2004, 10:11:41 AM
I just discovered that since I am the first post on a new page I had to manually go back to the previous page to read the posts that came in while I was typing.  From now on, if your post starts a page, go back to the end of the prior page so you won't miss anything.

And I've got to learn that if I'm reading posts and I'm at the bottom of the page and it seems like no one is posting anything, that it helps to check if the page count has increased.  
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Charles Pogue on March 02, 2004, 10:28:50 AM
I don't think Mr. Hung is either a sweet innocent nor a deluded innocent.  I think he knows he can't sing, I think he's aware that all the "new friends" he's made and the attention he is getting will vanish once the novelty has worn off,  and I think he is wisely going to milk this ride for as long as he can and make as much as he can from it, before it fades.  If he can get his "Mrs. Miller" album and do public appearances for six months or so, he may walk away with a tidy sum which would be a very nice financial cushion for a  somewhat socially inept, goofy-looking twenty year old just starting out in life.  And hopefully, he'll be smart enough to get those dreadful teeth fixed.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: elmore3003 on March 02, 2004, 10:29:58 AM
DR WEL, it was the director who got into the fight with Michael Riedel, not the MD.  Riedel's response in the paper this morning was that he's so disliked it will probably insure David Leveau(?)'s getting a Tony.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: DERBRUCER on March 02, 2004, 10:30:38 AM
Maybe a little ray of hope?

AP Report (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,113046,00.html):

Senate Democrats Score Wins on Gun Bill
Tuesday, March 02, 2004
 
WASHINGTON — The Senate voted Tuesday to extend for another decade a ban on military-style assault weapons and to require background checks on buyers at private gun shows, giving Democrats rare victories on gun legislation that would also deny crime victims the ability to sue gunmakers and dealers.

DER POSTER’S COMMNETS HEREWITH:

I’m personally pleased that the bill as amended passed. It should be noted, however, that the bill could not have passed without support from Republican Senators.

“Ten Republicans broke party ranks: Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island, Susan Collins of Maine, Mike DeWine of Ohio, Peter Fitzgerald of Illinois, Judd Gregg of New Hampshire, Richard Lugar of Indiana, Gordon Smith of Oregon, Olympia Snowe of Maine, George Voinovich of Ohio and John Warner of Virginia.”

“Six Democrats voted against extending the ban: Max Baucus of Montana, Russ Feingold of Wisconsin, Mary Landrieu of Louisiana, Zell Miller of Georgia, Ben Nelson of Nebraska and Harry Reid of Nevada.”

Senator McCain (R-AZ) voted for closing the Gun Show loophole.

Headlines that scream of a “Democrat Victory” certainly complicate the problem of convincing moderate Republicans to take more progressive positions.

Der Brucer (suggesting a little more grace in victory might help gain more of them)
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Dan (the Man) on March 02, 2004, 10:33:33 AM
YIKES!  Someone get bk here quick!  The next post will be #30,000!!!
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: bk on March 02, 2004, 10:35:34 AM
We are POISED
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: bk on March 02, 2004, 10:36:19 AM
30,000 posts since our new discussion board was introduced.  I'd say that was something to shout about, wouldn't you?
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Dan (the Man) on March 02, 2004, 10:40:31 AM
[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]HEY, HO!!![/move]
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: DERBRUCER on March 02, 2004, 10:44:26 AM
A Sad note to start the next 30,000:

From New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/02/theater/02LAWR.html):

March 2, 2004

Jerome Lawrence, 88, Author of Stage Hit 'Inherit the Wind,' Dies

By BEN SISARIO


Jerome Lawrence, a playwright and theater director whose plays include the classic courtroom drama "Inherit the Wind," died on Sunday at his home in Malibu, Calif., his niece Deborah Robison said. He was 88.

With Robert E. Lee, his writing partner of more than 50 years, Mr. Lawrence wrote 39 plays, including "Auntie Mame," "The Night Thoreau Spent in Jail" and "First Monday in October." Twelve of their collaborations reached Broadway.

More than a decade after "Inherit the Wind" Mr. Lawrence and his partner again captured the zeitgeist, this time during the Vietnam era, with their play about Thoreau's act of civil disobedience in refusing to pay taxes to support a war against Mexico. The play had its premiere at Ohio State University in 1970 and had at least 75 productions across the country that year. The authors deliberately avoided Broadway; the play was produced in many regional theaters and on college campuses, thanks to American Playwrights Theater, a network that Lee and Mr. Lawrence helped found in 1963.

In addition to Ms. Robison, of Berkeley, Calif., Mr. Lawrence is survived by his companion, Will Willoughby, of Malibu; his niece Paula Robison, of Boston; and a nephew, Joshua Robison, of San Francisco

der Brucer (RIP)
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Noel on March 02, 2004, 10:47:28 AM
And in widescreen, no less.

I love musicals, so my favorite Natalie Wood films are West Side Story followed by Gypsy.

A novel I love that should be a musical, Marjorie Morningstar, was way too wasp-ified for my tastes, but

This Property Is Condemened is enjoyable, and also might make a good musical.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on March 02, 2004, 10:47:48 AM
Good luck, DR EMILY.

Yes, DRWEL, I think DRJAY is correct in that the timing of that Disney ad (it was also in USA TODAY) has more to do with the Annual Stockholders' Meeting tomorrow than any movie that might (or might NOT) be made.

DR Lulu - it might be an allergic reaction to something, or a bug bite!

AND thanks to the HHW'ers who answered my question about "vintage" couture yesterday!

Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on March 02, 2004, 10:51:18 AM
P a n a v i s i o n

The above season announcement really surprises the hell out me.  Who would suppose Frederica Von Staade even had ANY friends?
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Jay on March 02, 2004, 10:54:41 AM

The above season announcement really surprises the hell out me.  Who would suppose Frederica Von Staade even had ANY friends?

Why would you say that?  Despite her well-to-do upbringing, Miss Von Stade comes across as a very genuine and down to earth sort of person, and is beloved by legions of fans.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: bk on March 02, 2004, 10:59:47 AM
Were we in Panavision?  Looks okay now, doesn't it?
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: bk on March 02, 2004, 11:00:42 AM
Just got a notice that my friend Eileen Barnett is doing the lead in Lady in the Dark at the Alex, late this month.  It's one of those Musical Theatre Guild things.  I may try to get over there to see it.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: DERBRUCER on March 02, 2004, 11:08:40 AM
And in widescreen, no less.

'Taint no' mo' ! I shrank Frederica!

der Brucer (anybody else need a shrinking?)
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: bk on March 02, 2004, 11:10:04 AM
The Incredible Shrinking Fredrica.  Good movie.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Ron Pulliam on March 02, 2004, 11:20:02 AM
My favorite Natalie Wood performances:

Rebel Without A Cause
Gypsy
Inside Daisy Clover
Love With the Proper Stranger
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: bk on March 02, 2004, 11:22:43 AM
I do love Love with the Proper Stranger - great Elmer Bernstein score.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on March 02, 2004, 11:27:36 AM
DRJAY - Oh...well I stand corrected.  In that case, have they scheduled ENOUGH performances to include them all?
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: DERBRUCER on March 02, 2004, 11:29:38 AM
Just got a notice that my friend Eileen Barnett is doing the lead in Lady in the Dark at the Alex, late this month.  It's one of those Musical Theatre Guild things.  I may try to get over there to see it.

See it my ASS - record it!

Us chauvanists want an up-to-date true stereo US cast recording!

der nagging Brucer
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on March 02, 2004, 11:32:13 AM
My ship has sails that are made of silk
It's deck is lined with gold
Of jam and spice
There's a paradise in the hold.....................
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: William E. Lurie on March 02, 2004, 11:37:14 AM
DR WEL, it was the director who got into the fight with Michael Riedel, not the MD.  Riedel's response in the paper this morning was that he's so disliked it will probably insure David Leveau(?)'s getting a Tony.

You are correct.  I tend to read a little faster than I should and didn't notice the 's at the end of the word musical in the phrase "the musical's director".  I was surprised to see this in the Post, Mr. Reidel's paper.  I would have thought one of the other papers would have jumped on the story that presents a Post columnist in a less-than-favorable light.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: William F. Orr on March 02, 2004, 11:40:15 AM
For those who missed my late poste yesterday:

Who:     The Sexiest Man Alive, Brent Barrett
When:   This Afternoon at 17:00 EST
Where:  The SciFi Channel
What:   Hercules, the Legendary Journeys
How:     As Uris in "And a Star to Guide Them"
Why:     Need You Ask?
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: DERBRUCER on March 02, 2004, 11:46:53 AM
Just got a notice that my friend Eileen Barnett is doing the lead in Lady in the Dark at the Alex, late this month.  It's one of those Musical Theatre Guild things.  I may try to get over there to see it.

(http://www.musicaltheatreguild.com/images/headshots/barnett_eileen.jpg)

And here is a link to MTG's (http://www.musicaltheatreguild.com/members.asp?MemberID=6) site with lots of bio data.

Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: William F. Orr on March 02, 2004, 11:48:22 AM
Although the esteemed DerBrucer called for a moritorium on wee-wee jokes after presenting one such himself, I cannot but recount the following.

My sister-in-law (or sister-out-law, until New York follows San Francisco's example)'s ex-husband, known affectionately as Mad Dog (because he had those words tatooed on the inside of his lower lip), was in the city of Nyu Yahk one day and had the uncontrolable urge to relieve himself on the grass at the entrance to Central Park.  He proceeded to produce a mighty cascade.

Whilst he was contemplating the golden parabolic arc issuing forth, he was approached from behind by an Officer of the Law, who tapped him on the shoulder and said sternly, "Turn around!"

Which he did.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: William F. Orr on March 02, 2004, 11:56:38 AM
As for the call for Democrats to vote, I did that at 6:15 this morning on my way to work.  I was surprised indeed at the long list of candidates, particularly fellow mathematician and general nut case Lyndon LaRoche (with pledged delegates, no less, and Kerry had none!).  I thought LaRoche had disappeared from sight a quarter of a century ago.

And speaking of politics, it is interesting to see Conan the Governor, who has in the past been rather supportive of gay rights, groping his way toward a comfortable position on the Sanctity of Marriage.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: DERBRUCER on March 02, 2004, 12:00:10 PM
And of this I am certain.....

News Flash (http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20040302061009990002)

Man Who Was Said to Be 114 Only 92

CLINTON, Md. (March 2) - In the week since William Coates' death, his family has been arranging a funeral befitting a man purported to have lived for 114 years, which, if true, would have ranked him among the oldest people in the United States.

But U.S. Census records indicate that Coates, who had been celebrated for his age in news stories and public proclamations, was no older than 92 when he died Feb. 24.

It is unclear who initially asserted that Coates was born in 1889. Irving H. Smith, director of a Prince George's senior citizens center who hosts an annual celebration for centenarians, has asserted that Coates was the county's oldest citizen. He said he based this on conversations with Coates' relatives and on records at the Clinton Nursing and Rehabilitation Center, where Coates spent his last years.

The home confirmed that its records list Coates' birth date as June 2, 1889. But it's not clear where that information came from.

"To be honest," Smith said, "about the only fact we know for sure is that he's dead."

Der Brucer (hoping Irving is certain)
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Post by: MBarnum on March 02, 2004, 12:00:51 PM
Comment on Super Tuesday - Since I always vote for the person, not the party, I have always registered as an independent and therefore am barred from voting in primaries.  I realize that I could change my registration every election depending on who is running, but in some primaries I may favor a Republican for one position and a Democrat for another.  A lot of people may not agree with me (so what else is new?), but I think if the party system which is not a part of the Constitution were eliminated and people could run for elections based on their own beliefs and not the party's, this country might be a lot better off.  Congress would be a lot better too, because it could then operate as a group of individuals, not as two opposing groups of Congressmen.

Actually WEL, I totally agree with this and I have long felt the same way. Don't know if it would work any better, but in theory it makes sense.
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Post by: Jrand73 on March 02, 2004, 12:11:07 PM
On the way from DVDPlanet to my house:

THE OMEN - 4 DVD Collection

EXPRESSO BONGO - Cliff Richard

DAREDEVIL - Wide Screen Special Edition

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Post by: DERBRUCER on March 02, 2004, 12:15:10 PM

And speaking of politics, it is interesting to see Conan the Governor, who has in the past been rather supportive of gay rights, groping his way toward a comfortable position on the Sanctity of Marriage.

Arnold's position has been plain and consistant from day one. He personally does not support Gay Marriage but does support civil unions/domestic partnerships. He also believes in upholding existing law.

The GLBT community in CA is very pleased with his recent peformance:

Equity California (http://www.eqca.org/):

Equality California Praises Governor Schwarzenegger for Stand Against the Federal Marriage Discrimination Amendment

Equality California and Five Couples are Represented by NCLR, ACLU and Lambda

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE  (March 1, 2004)
Contact: 415.581.0005 or email@eqca.org

SAN FRANCISCO -- Republican Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, one of the nation’s most recognized and popular Republican elected officials, announced on the Tonight Show that he did not support the Discriminatory Federal Marriage Amendment recently endorsed by President Bush. When asked whether he supported Bush’s proposal, Schwarzenegger replied: “We have a state law, and I think those issues should be left to the state, so I have no use for a constitutional amendment or change in that at all, no.”
 
“The Governor tonight has demonstrated that he will stand up to President Bush and the extreme right-wing in their effort to destroy lesbian and gay families,” stated Geoffrey Kors, Executive Director of Equality California, California’s statewide lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender advocacy organization. “We applaud the Governor’s actions and thank him for taking this principled position less than a week after President Bush launched his assault on family values.”. Equality California the sponsor of a resolution by Assembly Mark Leno (D-SF) and the LGBT Legislative Caucus to make California the first state in the nation to go on record against the Federal Marriage Discrimination Amendment.. “With the Governor’s standing on the side of protecting families, not destroying them, we are hopeful that other California Republicans, both in Congress and in the State Legislature, will join us in opposing writing discrimination into the Constitution.”
….
EQCA is a nonprofit, nonpartisan, grassroots-based, statewide advocacy organization whose mission is to ensure the dignity, safety, equality and civil rights of all lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) Californians. Equality California is one of the largest and fastest growing statewide LGBT organizations in the country.

der Brucer (who sees no groping)


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Post by: Charles Pogue on March 02, 2004, 12:15:18 PM
I was in one of those first productions of THE NIGHT THAT THOREAU SPENT IN JAIL at the University of Kentucky, playing Thoreau's brother John.  The local reviewer was so crazy about the play he pressured us to give an extra matinee for the benefit of Jose Ferrer who was in town and was thought to possibly be interested in the play.  Naturally a last minute performance was poorly attended and I don't think Mr. Ferrer saw the show's best performance.  But we all got to briefly meet him after the performance.
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Post by: bk on March 02, 2004, 12:19:52 PM
I've always been very fond of Expresso Bongo.  Laurence Harvey is very very good in it and it's nicely directed by Val Guest.
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Post by: DERBRUCER on March 02, 2004, 12:20:28 PM
Actually WEL, I totally agree with this and I have long felt the same way. Don't know if it would work any better, but in theory it makes sense.

For a good example of the "theory" in practice, look at Italy - total political chaos for generations.

der Brucer (noting that the US has had a basic strong two party system since day one)
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Post by: DERBRUCER on March 02, 2004, 12:21:55 PM
(http://www.qsl.net/wd8das/brain.jpg)

der Brucer ('tis a late lunch time)
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Post by: MBarnum on March 02, 2004, 12:22:45 PM
By the way, I came across a wonderful website I thought I should share with all the HHW fans of Golden Age Television. www.hollywoodsattic.com has a fantastic selection of videos of vintage TV programs. They have a 1950s broadcast of both the Emmy's and the Oscars (don't recall the exact dates...1956, 58, or something along those lines), and I saw an old 1965 Christmas special starring Liza Minelli and Vic Damone. Anyway, check out their selection...they also have a lot of silent films as well as other films.
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Post by: DERBRUCER on March 02, 2004, 12:30:44 PM
Latest view of Pogue's summer retreat:
(http://www.foxnews.com/images/118223/8_2_mars_opportunity_012404.jpg)
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Post by: Jed on March 02, 2004, 12:45:01 PM
I don't know from "Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice," but I do enjoy P.D.Q. Bach's "Hansel & Gretel & Ted & Alice (an opera in one unnatural act)."
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Post by: William F. Orr on March 02, 2004, 12:54:05 PM
Oh, my dear DerBrucer, I stand corrected.  Bravo for Governor S.!  Please convey my apologies to him, but I could not resist the pun on grope.  May the Schwartznegger be with you.
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Post by: elmore3003 on March 02, 2004, 01:23:28 PM
I'm going to jump in here and defend Fredrica von Stade, she's an absolutely beautiful lady and deserves neither slams nor slurs.  I'd been a fan for a long time and met her at a Sunday matinee of the musical TRIUMPH OF LOVE, which she was attending to see her friend Betty Buckley.  

Now, if you want to kick someone, let's talk about Kiri te Kanawa!
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Post by: Jane on March 02, 2004, 01:24:32 PM
In a more serious vein (A Dracula reference):


Thank you.  I appreciate the interesting views discussed here. I have decided to pass on this film in protest, which I hope is proven to be unfounded.  This article gives me hope.
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Post by: Matt H. on March 02, 2004, 01:24:37 PM
I really don't think he has much hope for a directing Tony this season with WICKED, WONDERFUL TOWN, LITTLE SHOP, ASSASSINS, AVENUE Q, and the upcoming BOMBAY DREAMS looming. THe show didn't get great reviews.
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Post by: Jane on March 02, 2004, 01:28:36 PM
DearReaderLaura your photo of the big machines brings to mind the wonderful children’s story, MIKE MULLIGAN & HIS STEAM SHOVEL.  Have you read it?

Favorite Natalie Wood films:
MIRACLE ON 34TH STREET
LOVE WITH A PROPER STRANGER
THE GREAT RACE
THE SEARCHERS
Sex and the Single Girl
Ghost and Mrs. Muir


I have read MARJORIE MORNINGSTAR but can’t recall the movie.

SWW thanks for the link

DerBruce-NO TOFU!  :D I know there had to be some vegetarian stars at this function.  What did they eat?

Lulu, for that full lip look there is a lipstick, or something like it, you can buy to sting your lips and make them swell.  I tested a sample and removed it within minutes.
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Post by: S. Woody White on March 02, 2004, 01:49:15 PM
There's also this tidbit from Playbill about Spamalot. (http://www.playbill.com/news/article/84680.html)  It would be more interesting if they'd mentioned Natalie Wood, of course.  Can't have everything.
Address in link corrected.
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Post by: George on March 02, 2004, 02:33:43 PM
I haven't seen a lot of Natalie Wood movies.  Of the ones that I have seen, these are my favorites...actually, these are the only ones that I have seen, but I like them all:

The Great Race
Gypsy
Miracle on 34th Street
Rebel Without a Cause
West Side Story
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: S. Woody White on March 02, 2004, 02:41:40 PM
Just got a notice that my friend Eileen Barnett is doing the lead in Lady in the Dark at the Alex, late this month.  It's one of those Musical Theatre Guild things.  I may try to get over there to see it.
Please do!  Lady in the Dark is a surprising work, and one that doesn't get produced nearly often enough.  I want a full report!  (Actually, I want a new recording, but I'm not going to be as crass as der Brucer in my asking for one.)

(Can you imagine what it's going to be like here, with two Gods stomping around under the same roof?)
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Post by: S. Woody White on March 02, 2004, 02:51:49 PM
For a good example of the "theory" in practice, look at Italy - total political chaos for generations.

der Brucer (noting that the US has had a basic strong two party system since day one)
Closer to home, do we really want Congress and the Senate running on the same general principles as Survivor?  Coalitions and betrayal, competitions and 'immunity..."

 :-\
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Post by: bk on March 02, 2004, 03:15:59 PM
Just got the paperback test book of Kritzer Time.  It looks very very nice, and the cover looks fantastic.  The test hardcover should be here in a week or so, and then I can place my order and get these books out to those who've ordered them.  And those who haven't - don't wait TOO long.
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Post by: Michael on March 02, 2004, 03:40:29 PM
DR MICHAELSHAYNE - does Richard Costa sing as nice as he looks?  ;)

(http://store6.yimg.com/I/broadwaycares_1783_658820)


I don't know. I have never heard of him and was wondering if anyone had.
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Post by: Michael on March 02, 2004, 03:46:02 PM
I always wondered what airs on the west coast after the Academy Awards as the show starts pre-prime time there.
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Post by: Jay on March 02, 2004, 03:50:13 PM
I always wondered what airs on the west coast after the Academy Awards as the show starts pre-prime time there.

The Babs Walters interview show comes on after the Oscars here.  In the east, it comes on before.
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Post by: S. Woody White on March 02, 2004, 03:54:17 PM
The Babs Walters interview show comes on after the Oscars here.  In the east, it comes on before.
East coast, Babbles is part of the build-up.  West coast, she's part of the led down.

Having endured the "have to get home" blues on the West coast often enough (particularly when it was held on Mondays at the Dorothy Chandler; my route home went right by the Music Center, which was impassable those nights), I have to admit that staying up all hours on the East coast is a little easier to take.

Additional thought: Think of this as Monday Night Football with a more interesting demographic.  ABC has always had to run whatever preceeded the football game after the game on the West coast, simply to provide everyone with live game coverage.  (Can you imagine all the betting problems in CA and WA if someone could phone a friend in Tampa to get the results ahead of his "buddies"?  It would be justifiable homicide!)  So, when MacGyver was paired with the games for years, it's ratings stunk in the West, mainly because it's target audience (the kids) had been neatly tucked in bed in their Dr. Dentons by that time.  Likewise, Babbles gets a lower share on Oscar Nite in the West than she does in the East.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on March 02, 2004, 03:56:01 PM
And then, after the Walters show, the Bay Area ABC affiliate picks up the post-Oscar feed from LA where celebs are accosted going into and coming out of party venues.

Isn't that a hoot?

Not.

Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Jane on March 02, 2004, 03:58:43 PM
Echo just gave us a fright.  She disappeared for about half an hour.  The strange thing is she disappeared in our yard, granted it is about four acres worth, but still.  We were out there yelling “let’s go for a walk”, a call she has never ignored.  We had visions of her injured in the bushes where we couldn’t see her.  Alas, she suddenly came running, obviously having been into something.  We couldn’t find a hole in the fence & are very curious where she was.  We have had our walk and Echo has been hosed down multiple times.  Now I’m off to use the hair dryer on her
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Post by: Michael on March 02, 2004, 04:01:12 PM
[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]COMING SPRING 2005[/move]

[move=right,scroll,6,transparent,100%]Lord of the Rings: The Musical[/move]

http://www.thelordoftheringsmusical.com# (http://www.thelordoftheringsmusical.com#)
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: S. Woody White on March 02, 2004, 04:08:37 PM
We have had our walk and Echo has been hosed down multiple times.  Now I’m off to use the hair dryer on her
As a drying device, and not as a spanking tool, I trust.  (Sorry, Jane, but your phrasing could have been clearer.   ::))

More seriously, how does Echo respond to the sound of the hair dryer?  Some of the dogs we've had have been very sensitive to the noise, running away the moment it's turned on.  Vacuum cleaners have the same effect.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Michael on March 02, 2004, 04:15:29 PM
Okay I think television has scraped the bottom of the outhouse. New show being made.


Are you ready for “My Best Friend is a Big Fat Slut”? Hope so, because the Oxygen network and Carsey-Werner-Mandabach may well be bringing us a half hour comedy show with that title, centered around a group of recovering sexaholics. The pilot shoots this week.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: S. Woody White on March 02, 2004, 04:16:15 PM
[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]COMING SPRING 2005[/move]

[move=right,scroll,6,transparent,100%]Lord of the Rings: The Musical[/move]

http://www.thelordoftheringsmusical.com# (http://www.thelordoftheringsmusical.com#)
Shades of PDQ Bach:

Treebeard has just begun his solo, when the producer steps out from the wings and addresses the audience.  "I'm terribly sorry, ladies and gentlemen, but we've been informed that this song will run ten hours and seventeen minutes, and have decided to cut it."

The look on Treebeard's face, after the producer has exited the stage, would be priceless.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Robin on March 02, 2004, 04:27:40 PM
The music was by a Leonard Rosenman   who also wrote music for :
Twilight Zone
2 Planet of the Apes movies
Barry Lyndon
Star Trek IV
Neil Diamond’s Jazz Singer
Macus Welby
Quincy
The Defenders
and lots more.

Actually, Rosenman didn't compose the score for Barry Lyndon, he adapted existing music, for which he recieved an Oscar.  He also recieved an Oscar for adapting the music for the Woody Guthrie film Bound for Glory.  

And he composed a great deal of my favorite film scores.  East of Eden, Rebel Without a Cause, Fantastic Voyage, and his two scores for the "Apes" franchise, Beneath the Planet of the Apes and Battle for the Planet of the Apes.  

I've been catching re-runs of Combat! lately, since I've had essentially nothing to do for the past few days, just to hear Rosenman's library of cues for that show.  

God, I'm such a friggin' geek.  
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: bk on March 02, 2004, 04:34:36 PM
Ever since trying to fix a minor AOL problem today, whatever they did was causing total computer wackoness today.  Every time I'd go to my folder where I keep my documents, it was cloning all my documents.  I'd delete them and it would clone them again.  Why, it was the Attack of the Clones.  I finally called Dell, and they had me to a system restore to last night, and now all is well with computerworld.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Robin on March 02, 2004, 04:34:52 PM
Okay I think television has scraped the bottom of the outhouse. New show being made.
Are you ready for “My Best Friend is a Big Fat Slut”?

How about:
Her Really, Really Gay Fiance
Is She Glenda...or Glen?


I have this idea for a reality series called, Physician, Heal Thyself!  A dozen real doctors are injected with random fatal diseases, and they have to diagnose and treat themselves.  Some will live...some won't.  

It's a ratings bonanza!

Okay, I admit it...I'm pretty cheesed at the entire medical profession right now, since they can't seem to do anything about this ringing in my ear.  A few weeks, they said...!

Damn them.  Damn them all to hell.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Michael on March 02, 2004, 04:46:58 PM
Does anyone know if Volume 2 of the Charlie Chaplin rectified the problems from the first set?
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Post by: Danise on March 02, 2004, 04:49:05 PM
Jane, I'm so glad you found Echo!  I would be beside myself if Bear or Brandi did that to me!

I have a pile of smut novels to read but I'm bumping "Dragon Heart" to the top.  I never should have mentioned I like certain smut novel authors like Fern Michaels.   Who knew my boss collects them.  She brings them in by the sack full for me to read.  Oy!

Let me go back and get caught up with what I missed.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: bk on March 02, 2004, 04:50:41 PM
I seem to recall recently reading that they had not, in fact, rectified the PAL to NTSC problems on the Chaplin set.  I believe you will find screenshot comparisons at dvdbeaver.com, although these comparisons can be a bit odious at times.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Michael on March 02, 2004, 04:59:09 PM
I just found an old ticket stub for the Martin Beck theater dated January 6, 1979 when an orchestra seat was $14.50. Anyone know what was playing there?
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: William F. Orr on March 02, 2004, 05:16:03 PM
I have this idea for a reality series called, Physician, Heal Thyself!  A dozen real doctors are injected with random fatal diseases, and they have to diagnose and treat themselves.  Some will live...some won't.

Actually, one of the Firesign Theatre albums contains a bit with exactly that premise, except the game show contestant is not a doctor.  The show is called Beat the Reaper.  He is in an isolation booth, and if he diagnoses the disease in the allotted amount of time, he gets the antidote.  "I'm sorry sir, that's incorrect.  You have--bubonic plague!"  He panics and escapes from the booth as people flee yelling "Plague!  Plague!"

I really should get all FT's albums, now that they are on CD just to see if they are as funny as they were in the 60's and without chemical enhancement.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: TCB on March 02, 2004, 05:35:52 PM







JRand53, did you see Marty Milner and Kent McCord on Hollywood Squares last week? Boy, Kent still is a hottie!


But Michael, you also think dead gladiators are HOT.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Panni on March 02, 2004, 05:38:14 PM
Just caught up on all the posts. Whew! Congrats on the 30,000 milestone!

I too must defend Ms. von Stade. Met her once and she was extremely sweet. She was also very nice and helpful to a young opera student I know.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Dan (the Man) on March 02, 2004, 05:38:26 PM
[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]COMING SPRING 2005[/move]

[move=right,scroll,6,transparent,100%]Lord of the Rings: The Musical[/move]

Okay, since I understand that no groaning is allowed here:

"You're Getting to be a Hobbit With Me"
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Dan (the Man) on March 02, 2004, 05:41:41 PM
I just found an old ticket stub for the Martin Beck theater dated January 6, 1979 when an orchestra seat was $14.50. Anyone know what was playing there?

According to imbd.com, Dracula would have been there at that time.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: TCB on March 02, 2004, 05:41:53 PM
As far as the big star who allegedly raped Natalie Wood as a kid, the scuttlebutt around is that it was Kirk Douglas. But that's just a rumor. Who knows if we'll ever know the truth.

If you can wait fifty years, it is probably in Roddy McDowall's book!

Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Charles Pogue on March 02, 2004, 05:52:53 PM
I just got back from walking Cully the near-blind dog and, my God, the sunset light tonight is exquisite!  Like a Maxfield Parrish painting.  There must a hundred different variant green tones dappled through the canyons.  Soon...soon...I shall be able to sit on my balcony again with a good wine and fine music and soak this up every night...although the winter light is really even more special than the spring and summer light.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: William F. Orr on March 02, 2004, 06:06:17 PM
And speaking of FS Edward Charles Pogue--and FS Charles Pogue was speaking of FS Charles Pogue, was he not?--may I ask:  Are you really responsible for the The Fly tag-line, "Be afraid!  Be very afraid!" (or otherly punctuated, of course.)
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: George on March 02, 2004, 06:17:35 PM
(http://www.catinthehat.org/images/history_cat.gif)  (http://www.catinthehat.org/images/history_dr_seuss.jpg)  (http://www.catinthehat.org/images/history_horton.gif)

Nobody's mentioned it yet, but today is the 100th Anniversary of the Birthday of Dr. Seuss (a.k.a. Theodore Geisel)!  Here are several interesting websites:

http://www.seuss.org/
http://www.seussville.com/
http://www.nea.org/readacross/ which has a link to:
http://www.seussentennial.com/
http://www.catinthehat.org/
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Jane on March 02, 2004, 06:20:01 PM
As a drying device, and not as a spanking tool, I trust.  (Sorry, Jane, but your phrasing could have been clearer.   ::))

More seriously, how does Echo respond to the sound of the hair dryer?  Some of the dogs we've had have been very sensitive to the noise, running away the moment it's turned on.  Vacuum cleaners have the same effect.

I use the Sassoon Quiet Styler to blow her hair dry-never, ever to hit her with.  :D I also give her half a cookie when I turn the on the dryer, and half during the drying process.  She tolerates the entire process only because I reward her, and because I do it in a corner where it is difficult for her to get away.  We live in the country where she can run free while we walk & hike which means I often return home with a dirty dog.  I have found drying her with a towel, combing her and then leaving her on a down stay on top of a dry towel reduces the time spent with the hair dryer.  

I think I just told you more than you wanted to know.  The point is Echo had to get use the hair dryer.  She doesn’t run from the vacuum cleaner, but she does bark at it non-stop.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Panni on March 02, 2004, 06:28:22 PM
I just got back from walking Cully the near-blind dog and, my God, the sunset light tonight is exquisite!  Like a Maxfield Parrish painting.  There must a hundred different variant green tones dappled through the canyons.  Soon...soon...I shall be able to sit on my balcony again with a good wine and fine music and soak this up every night...although the winter light is really even more special than the spring and summer light.
Wonderfully evocative! Ever thought of taking up writing, Mr. Pogue?
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: TCB on March 02, 2004, 06:31:47 PM
I loved Natalie Wood, especially her films when she was a young adult.  GYSPY, WEST SIDE STORY, and yes, even BOB AND CAROL, TED AND ALICE.    I wasn't crazy about a lot of her later work; and, of course, by the time I saw her in BRAINSTORM, she was washed up.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Panni on March 02, 2004, 06:33:24 PM
Could some LA denizen (or anyone else with access) PLEASE print out or e-mail to me from today's LA Times Calendar section "The Big Picture" column about the TV movie "Judas." Excellent column and the movie, written by Tom Fontana, seems absolutely worth watching.
I tried to register in the Calendar members section to get a printout - which as an LATimes subscriber I'm supposed to be able to do - but there is some glitch and I've wasted enough time on it now. I'd love to e-mail this column to various people. And I also think it would be of interest to the DRs.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Jane on March 02, 2004, 06:34:01 PM
Danise thank you.  We were pretty scared.  It is amazing the images ones imagination can conjure up. She is such a good dog and  normally stays very close to me.   About six years ago, overcome by the excitement of seeing her first deer, she bolted and was gone for an hour.  But I knew what had happened.  I have since trained her not to chase deer.  I just yell sit and no matter how far away from me she is, she stops in her tracks.  She doesn’t sit, but then I don’t really care and she knows that.  

Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Jane on March 02, 2004, 06:37:12 PM
Panni did you finish the Natalie Wood bio and did you like it?
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Robin on March 02, 2004, 06:46:52 PM
Actually, one of the Firesign Theatre albums contains a bit with exactly that premise, except the game show contestant is not a doctor.  The show is called Beat the Reaper.

Damn!  There goes my million bucks.  I was about to pitch it to FOX, the  "We'll run anything network"!
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: Jrand73 on March 02, 2004, 07:00:05 PM
I was making a joke....it was a joke....you see the poster said..."and her friends...."  It was a joke....I didn't mean it....  It was a joke, remember those?
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Post by: Jrand73 on March 02, 2004, 07:02:38 PM
DR Panni asked me to post this picture!  ;D

"My daughter, when she was very young, was always being told she looked like a young Natalie Wood (and Natalie Portman). In fact, when we were living in LA (the first time) she played Susan in the LA premiere of the stage version of MIRACLE ON 34th STREET. I just recently got a photo of her (and lovely mother) on the day of her 20th birthday when I went to visit her in San Francisco and
will e-mail it to JRand53 to ask him to post it. She no longer looks like either of the Natalies but is lovely in her own right."

So let it be written so let it be done.  

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Post by: Panni on March 02, 2004, 07:04:22 PM
Panni did you finish the Natalie Wood bio and did you like it?
I watched it - I was doing other things at the time, because I certainly couldn't have just sat there and taken it in - and did not like it. I pretty much agree with what bk said in his Notes about the film.
Mind you, I can't imagine how one could actually do a good movie about Natalie.
I suppose you could fictionalize - take the essence of the story - all the elements for great drama are there.  Do it like THE GODDESS, Paddy Chayefsky's thinly disguised story about Marilyn Monroe. I haven't seen it in many years. But I do remember it as being incredibly good. The "Marilyn" character was portrayed by Kim Stanley who was a bit old for the part and not truly a beauty. But it didn't matter because she is such a superb actress and the script was so powerful.
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Post by: Panni on March 02, 2004, 07:06:52 PM
Eeeek! I went back after my post to see what was on the previous page and found - ME. Thank you Jrand 53!
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Post by: Jane on March 02, 2004, 07:07:06 PM
Lovely photo.  Thank you JRand53 & Panni for posting it.  

Panni, if only my son was still living in San Francisco.
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Post by: Jed on March 02, 2004, 07:09:13 PM
To heck with your son, Jane, if only I were in San Francisco! :D
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Post by: Panni on March 02, 2004, 07:09:46 PM
Lovely photo.  Thank you JRand53 & Panni for posting it.  

Panni, if only my son was still living in San Francisco.

Matchmaking on HHW. Love it!
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Post by: Panni on March 02, 2004, 07:10:46 PM
To heck with your son, Jane, if only I were in San Francisco! :D

Hey! Behave yourself, DR Jed! Mom is watching.
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Post by: Jrand73 on March 02, 2004, 07:12:16 PM
LOL You're welcome, DR PANNI.  Yes it is a lovely photo!  

Just got home from a super rehearsal.....fingers crossed that the rest of the ride is this great.  Some shows just seem to work from GO....

Now here comes the tech!  As I said fingers crossed!
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Post by: Panni on March 02, 2004, 07:14:27 PM
Good vibes on the tech, Jrand53....
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Post by: Jane on March 02, 2004, 07:17:58 PM
Panni thanks.  Keith still wants to watch a bit of it.  From all the wonderful reviews I have read here today I doubt we shall be watching for long.
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Post by: Jane on March 02, 2004, 07:19:09 PM
Good night.  Have a nice evening. :)
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Post by: Charles Pogue on March 02, 2004, 07:29:34 PM
RE:  Whether I'm responsible for "Be Afraid! Be Afraid!" or not?  I don't know.  I've never gone back into my original script to see whether it was there  or there was ever any line in any form like it or not.  Mr. Cronenberg may have come up with it.  But here's the thing about collaboration...whether it's an intended collaboration or not...Every idea feeds another idea.  

So I've never gotten into that parsing game of who came up with this or that particular bit or line the few times I've worked with collaborators or with anyone else's scripts either.  It's why I hate the whole unwieldy arbitration system, where people try to divy up who did what.  You never know how someone else got to where they did and how much a previous draft helped.

No one piece exists without the other pieces.  Cronenberg could be building off a line of mine or even building off a seemingly unrelated bit of business of mine...or his.  It could have come from one of the actors, for all I know.  But again, every idea feeds another idea.  You can't possibly know the chain of events or thoughts that trigger one thing or another.  So why try?

Cronenberg once said he couldn't have gotten to his script without my script.  I'm content to leave it there.

Both his name and my name are on the script.  Both names deserve to be there.  So we'll both take credit for it.
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Post by: S. Woody White on March 02, 2004, 07:34:08 PM
(http://www.qsl.net/wd8das/brain.jpg)

der Brucer ('tis a late lunch time)
Now, has anyone noticed anything unusual about this post?  (It's post # 101 for the day, I believe.)

(Hint: You do have to go back to the original post.)
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Post by: JoseSPiano on March 02, 2004, 07:57:36 PM
Good Evening!

DR SWW - Regarding DR DERBRUCERS post/cartoon (post #101)... Now that you mention it, I do notice something unusual about that post.  But, then again, my eyes may be deceiving me.  Or maybe not?  Hmm...

Well, I got my laundry done - well, almost.  When I got to the laundromat, I realized that I had left my bed sheets on the bed - well, I had pulled them off, and put them in a bundle, but forgot to put them in the laundry basket.  Ah, well...  -But I did drop off my down comforter at the dry cleaners, so it should be all nice and clean and freshly puffed-and-fluffed when I get back from Chattanooga.

Then came class - another good class.  The duets really seem to be upping the level of friendly competition among the students.  And some of the girls are discovering that they really do have an upper range!  :D

Now, as for tonight's "American Idol".... Hmmm....

More after the West Coasters get their chance to view tonight's round... and after I get some packing down for my trip...
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Post by: S. Woody White on March 02, 2004, 08:06:45 PM
Good Evening!

DR SWW - Regarding DR DERBRUCERS post/cartoon (post #101)... Now that you mention it, I do notice something unusual about that post.  But, then again, my eyes may be deceiving me.  Or maybe not?  Hmm...
It's not the cartoon.
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Post by: Jay on March 02, 2004, 08:14:43 PM
I saw a movie called Good Bye Lenin! this evening, Dear Readers.  This film has been wildly popular in Europe.  

The story takes place in East Berlin in 1989.  A woman who is devoted to the socialist government of East Germany suffers a heart attack and then falls into an eight month coma, during which time the Berlin Wall falls and Germany reunifies.  When she revives from her coma, the doctors tell her son that any kind of shock will likely kill her, so the son creates a ruse that purports that nothing has changed in the political world around them.  As Western influence grows more visible in their neighborhood, the ruse, by necessity, grow and grows, to good comic effect.

At the heart of the film though, is the son's devotion to his mother, as well as other elements related to familial ties.  

Definitely worth seeing when it comes to your local art house cinema.
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Post by: Matt H. on March 02, 2004, 08:26:13 PM
I'm going to give opinions on AMERICAN IDOL contestants from tonight so skip my post if you don't want to read it. On a night that doesn't give the results, however, I think spoilers are kind of silly. Anyone wanting to watch IDOL would be doing that now rather than reading and posting here.

The first singer Suzy and the red haired 16-year old crooner John were the two best singers tonight. Everyone else had lapses, slips, cracks, or other major problems.

As usual, the judges unanimously crowed about a performer I thought was quite bad: Jasmine (Hawaiian girl with flower in her hair). Her voice was the one that was all over the place, even worse than final singer Tiara whom they accused of the same problem. Tiara was a much better singer than Jasmine, but both lack control and Tiara had especially weak high notes with her head voice.

Overall, another off night with mostly mediocre contestants. One thing is clear, we had a male-female final two with the first AI. We had an all male final in the second AI. I think it's clear there will be NO MEN in the final two of this year's competition unless there is VAST improvement over the course of the weeks of judging.

BTW, my TV GUIDE for next week came today, and it said the judges select the wild cards contestants for the wild card round and that the top four call in votes from the audience get in. Now, the magazine could be wrong (certainly have been in the past), but that's what it says.
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Post by: Matt H. on March 02, 2004, 08:30:29 PM
This afternoon, I watched THE MARK OF ZORRO with Tyrone Power. The DVD looked SO wonderful with rich black and white photography and a super sharp picture. Tyrone Power was certainly touched by the gods with such a handsome face, a magnificent physique (shown to perfection in those hip hugging pants), and such an effortless, natural acting style.
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Post by: Panni on March 02, 2004, 08:33:50 PM
This movie sounds like it is definitely worth watching. (I know Father Frank and respect him tremendously. The same with the late Father Bud Kieser.)

THE BIG PICTURE - Excerpts

By Patrick Goldstein
Times Staff Writer
March 2 2004

Father Frank Desiderio is no fan of "The Passion of the Christ," and he makes no bones about it. "It didn't change my faith or give me a lift into the transcendent," he says. "It's superb from a technical point of view, but I walked out feeling sad and sick to my stomach because the violence made it too painful to stay involved in the story."

But Desiderio admits to feeling a pang of envy for Mel Gibson's star power. As head of Paulist Productions, Desiderio is a man of the cloth who lives in the relentlessly material world of show business, making TV movies and documentaries that focus on spiritual values. And while the media have endlessly covered Gibson's controversial film of Christ's last hours that grossed $125.2 million in its five-day opening, Desiderio has struggled to get the word out about "Judas," a new movie that views Jesus' last days through his relationship with his betrayer.  
...The film airs Monday night at 9 on ABC.

To say that the "Judas" creative team has mixed emotions about "The Passion" would be an understatement. Gibson spent about $30 million on his film; "Judas" had a bare-bones $5-million budget, shooting in Morocco on sets left over from a TV movie. On the other hand, the "Judas" filmmakers apparently got a much-needed boost from "The Passion."

"It's probably only because of Mel's film that our movie is being seen at all," says "Judas" writer-producer Tom Fontana, best known as a creator of such critically lauded shows as "Homicide: Life on the Street" and "Oz." "It took ABC two years to put us on the schedule. I have to think they were afraid of the movie."

Founded in 1960 by the late Father Ellwood "Bud" Kieser, Paulist Productions has won eight Emmys and various film festival awards. Its productions have attracted such acting talent as Walter Matthau, Martin Sheen, Ed Asner and Carol Burnett, and writers including John Wells, Michael Crichton and Rod Serling, as well as Fontana, who also wrote a 1985 TV movie called "The Fourth Wise Man." But today's Hollywood is allergic to films with specifically religious themes, a stance that is unlikely to change even with the commercial triumph of "The Passion."

Paulist Productions has largely lived off the money it made from "Romero," a 1989 film that starred Raul Julia as El Salvador's martyred archbishop Oscar Romero. But after taking a big loss on another feature film, 1995's "Entertaining Angels," it has shied away from theatrical productions, preferring the relative financial safety of television. Not that mainstream TV is much more hospitable to spiritual issues. In recent years, most Paulist productions have aired on distant outposts like the History Channel.

"With the networks today, almost all the material has to be baby-boomer-driven celebrity stories," explains Desiderio, sitting in his Paulist headquarters, a Spanish-style building on Pacific Coast Highway that in the 1930s served as a private club for movie starlet Thelma Todd. Desiderio rattles off a list of recent TV movies based on the lives of such celebrities as Natalie Wood, the Three Stooges, Lucille Ball, the Reagans and Martin & Lewis. "The logline in TV Guide has to have a celebrity name in the title. At least with 'Judas,' we might have a name people can recognize."

Unlike many conservatives and evangelicals, Desiderio doesn't believe Hollywood is hostile to Christian values. "It's not so much hostility as disconnectedness," he says. "I find that a lot of people in Hollywood and the media are religiously illiterate. They just don't know the Christian story."

....The idea for "Judas" began with Kieser, who wanted to do a Rashomon-style depiction of the life of Christ. In early 2000, Kieser got Fontana on board. "Even for a wayward Catholic like myself, there's no underestimating the power of a Catholic priest," Fontana recalls. "I told Bud I was too busy and the next thing I knew I was in pitching three Jesus movies to [then ABC movie chief] Susan Lyne."

Lyne said she'd make one of the movies, so Kieser and Fontana picked "Judas." "Bad guys are always the most interesting characters," Fontana explains. "It was a challenge to take the most reviled character in the history of mankind and try to figure out why he did this betrayal without portraying him as a one-dimensional bad guy."

Fontana wrote a first draft of the script for Kieser just before he died. "He gave me notes on a Friday, went into a coma on Monday and died later that week," Fontana recalls. "I always thought that was his ultimate revenge, because I couldn't argue ? you have to do the notes of a dead priest."

It was especially intriguing for me to see "Judas" in such close proximity to "The Passion." Although they both feature essentially the same characters and story, they deliver a very different perspective. "The Passion" is a director's movie, relying on the visceral power of its horror-film-like bloodletting for its emotional impact. "Judas" is a writer's movie, using character development to create a complex psychological portrait of the relationship between Judas and Jesus.

"Judas" also has a more complex view of the Jewish elders' role in Christ's death. Whereas Gibson refused to show his film to most Jewish leaders until it opened last week, Desiderio had a rabbi involved early on as a technical consultant on his film. Unlike "The Passion," which puts most of the onus for Jesus' death on the Jewish elders, "Judas" points the finger equally at Pontius Pilate, who is portrayed as a despotic ruler. The film also opens with a scene of a mass crucifixion, reminding viewers that Jews were persistently persecuted by the Romans.

Since there is very little biblical text devoted to Judas, the film uses imagined scenes to develop Jesus' relationship with his betrayer. "Christian art has been filling in the blanks of the Scriptures for ages," explains Desiderio. "The apocryphal Gospels are folk tales ? they're the pulp fiction of Christian literature. Where does it say in the Gospels that after Jesus was taken down from the cross that he lay in the arms of his mother? That image comes from Michelangelo's 'Pieta' more than from anywhere else."

Fontana also uses invented scenes to give the story a more socially conscious spin. When the Jewish high priest confronts Jesus, he says he will be destroyed if he continues to attack "traditional values." "I figured the term is in play, so if the fundamentalists can use it, so can I," Fontana says. "To me, Jesus was a good Jew who believed in the law of Moses, but he was persecuted because he believed in the spirit of the law, not the letter. And whether it's fundamentalist Christians or Muslims, they only seem interested in the letter. What Jesus says to me is: Believe in the spirit ? justice, compassion, family ? not just the narrow interpretation of the Bible."

"Judas" may not have the box-office clout of controversy, but it does benefit from Fontana's humanism, a quality evident in all Paulist productions. "Bud and Frank gave me the power to take the words of the Bible and create my own translation," says Fontana. "I don't have the assurance of saying, 'This is as it was.'

"I haven't seen Mel's movie, but anytime you view the world in black and white, you make it devoid of love, which is Jesus' message. I mean, if you make a movie about Jesus, and you create anger and division, aren't you missing the point of the message?"

"The Big Picture" runs every Tuesday in Calendar. If you have questions, ideas or criticism, e-mail them to patrick.goldstein@latimes.com.

Copyright 2004 Los Angeles Times
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on March 02, 2004, 08:34:35 PM
DR Jane,

Glad DP (Dr. Pooch) Echo's safe and sound.

Archie the spaniel seems to be calming down. I think it's the Rescue Remedy - thanks DR Panni and all for the suggestions.

As for Natalie Wood movies, Gypsy and Miracle on 34th Street would be high on my list.
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Post by: William F. Orr on March 02, 2004, 08:37:02 PM
DR Panni asked me to post this picture!  ;D

"... She no longer looks like either of the Natalies but is lovely in her own right."
I'd say she looks something like her lovely mother.
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Post by: Jay on March 02, 2004, 08:37:08 PM
Received my American Cinematheque flyer today and they will be running a little festival of films not available on video at the end of the month at the Egyptian Theatre.  On the roster:  Ace in the Hole, The Crowd Roars, Tiger Shark, Nightmare Alley, Bunny Lake is Missing, Too Late Blues, Play It As It Lays and Pretty Poison.
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Post by: Panni on March 02, 2004, 08:40:47 PM
Glad the Rescue Remedy was helpful, DR Dan-in-TO.

And thank you for the compliment, DR WFO!
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Post by: William F. Orr on March 02, 2004, 08:59:40 PM
DR Panni:  Thank you for posting the article about Judas.  I am marking my TV Guide.  I think what most drew me to Jesus Christ Superstar when I first got the concept album was that it was told very much from Judas' point of view, and Tim Rice's dialogues between Judas and Christ had so much more substance than most dramatic representations of the story.  When a Black colleague complained to me about the movie (which he hadn't seen) casting a Black actor as Judas, I had to point out that he was arguably the main character of the story, and was certainly not portrayed as one-dimensionally evil.

Why is it that people often miss the point when spiritual matters are portrayed?  Having read Kazantsakis' The Last Temptation of Christ, I was stunned by the furor over the movie and "Jesus sleeping with Magdalene".  Had these people seen the film?  Had they even read the title?  It was a dream sequence--a temptation, and it wasn't so much sleeping with her as marrying her and settling down like a nice Jewish boy.  This was shocking?

And now that I begin to rant and ramble, I will toddle off to bed.
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Post by: bk on March 02, 2004, 09:00:37 PM
Dear Reader Panni and others:  Please link to articles, don't reprint them in their entirety here as it violates copyright laws.  You may excerpt from them, just not the whole deal.  Thanks.
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Post by: bk on March 02, 2004, 09:04:23 PM
All right, then, what is everyone doing right this very minute?  And, clothing report!  Jeans and ASCAP t-shirt.
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Post by: S. Woody White on March 02, 2004, 09:10:52 PM
I'm just surfing around, in my t and sweat pants.  Der B is dozing off to the news.  The dogs are all checking what's in the yard.  (They're wearing their collars.)

Dinner was quite filling tonight.  I cooked up some rotelle, sauced with ground beef and breakfast sausage (!!!) in crushed tomatoes, with onions and mushers.  Der Brucer was quite happy with the result.  I think it was the fennel seeds in the sausage that gave the sauce a special something.
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Post by: Kerry on March 02, 2004, 09:13:42 PM
Thanks George for mentioning Dr. Seuss.  It's also Read Across America Day in most grade schools.   This started because i have threes sisters who are teachers.  Since I seem to not be able to say , "No," I often read to grade schoolers on my days off.  So, this will be third Read Week appearance.

I'm reading the class one book about a dog named "Ruggles"  and then some Dr. Seuss book.  At least I don't have to wera a tall red and white hat (at least I don't think so anyway).

Apparently it's also National Womens's week or Women Writers Week or something, so I was asked to read a book writtten by a woman.

Favorite Natalie Wood movies (in no particular order):

Splendor in the Grass (the scene at the end with her alll in white is a herat-breaker)

The Great Race (I know this movie by heart and love it)

GYPSY--  nobody was better or sexier

Inside Daisy Clover (although I still wish Gavin Lambert would have stuck to the book.)  Natalie was perfect in it, but the book was far superior to the screenply written by Lambert himself.


Miracle On 34th Street--  she IS the kid; she's not acting

The TV adaptations she did of both "The Cracker Factory" and "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof"

"Sex and the Single Girl" (which was stupid but had some very funny bits-- Edward Everett Horton was a hoot, and Natalie looked as lovely as usual)


Rebel Without A Cause-- what can I say.

Etc., etc., etc, etc. (a Siamese reference)


And just look at the publicity pictures of her with RJ, Warren Beattty and the other men she dated.  That's Hollywood!  



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Post by: Matt H. on March 02, 2004, 09:14:17 PM
PRETTY POISON is available on DVD now, I believe. I'd love to see BUNNY LAKE IS MISSING again. Fun little mystery.

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Post by: Charles Pogue on March 02, 2004, 09:14:29 PM
Well, if this keeps up I'll be tuning out American Idol very soon.  Another utterly undistinguished, bland, boring mediocre group.  Even the red-haired crooner who I was hoping would be good wasn't . None should be in the finals.  So far I've really found none of the finalists worth getting behind and rooting for.  So boring.  I feel like I wasted an hour of my life on trivial, inconsenquential crap.
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Post by: bk on March 02, 2004, 09:32:15 PM
Nope, Pretty Poison has never been on DVD.  It's been on FCM quite a bit recently, though.
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Post by: bk on March 02, 2004, 09:33:38 PM
Just took a lovely long hot shower and feel very relaxed.  Am now in my standard evening attire of Nike Shorts and t-shirt.

Can't concentrate on movies this evening, so I'm watching assorted bits of thing I've TIVOd - Orchestra Wives (love At Last), On the Riviera and Cabin in the Sky.
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Post by: Panni on March 02, 2004, 09:37:22 PM
Dear Reader Panni and others:  Please link to articles, don't reprint them in their entirety here as it violates copyright laws.  You may excerpt from them, just not the whole deal.  Thanks.
Sorry.
I couldn't post a link because you have to be a member of Calendar online to see the article. I'll modify it now to take some out, so it's not the whole thing.
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Post by: bk on March 02, 2004, 09:38:48 PM
Thanks very much.
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Post by: Panni on March 02, 2004, 09:57:01 PM
All right, then, what is everyone doing right this very minute?  And, clothing report!  

Trying to (re)write. Too tired, so no more writing today.

Brown cotton pants. Gray TV Guide sweatshirt. (Free with a subscription. I hardly ever look at the TV Guide, but I wear the sweatshirt a lot.) Comfortable but REALLY ugly slippers. ...My writing clothes. Oh - and I forgot to take off the big silver hoop earrings I wore to a meeting earlier today - so I'm wearing earrings with my ensemble.
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Post by: Panni on March 02, 2004, 10:06:48 PM
I'm shutting down the computer and will now try knitting again -- still haven't managed to do it. But I shall KNIT!
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Post by: George on March 02, 2004, 10:12:48 PM
I was watching "Keen Eddie" and now I'm watching "Queer Eye" when they have a musical theater composer who's straight!  That's not too unusual.  Anyway, I'm wearing a predominantly blue and green tie-dyed shirt with olive-ish green shorts and nothing on the feet.  I hate wearing shoes or socks when I'm inside and not going anywhere...even when I'm cold.
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Post by: Jed on March 02, 2004, 10:37:01 PM
Watching Seinfeld here, decked out in a white long-sleeve t-shirt, black boxers, and white socks.
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Post by: bk on March 02, 2004, 10:50:45 PM
I believe we have a new HHW god, do we not?  Shall we welcome him to the strotosphere?
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Post by: George on March 02, 2004, 11:04:01 PM
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WELCOME TO THE HEAVENS,
NEWEST HHW GOD DERBRUCER!!
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Post by: Ann on March 02, 2004, 11:14:33 PM
Good evening all.  Watching Golden Girls, wearing light grey yoga pants, white socks, and a grey sleep-shirt.  Not much else to say, so there you have it :)
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Post by: bk on March 02, 2004, 11:17:53 PM
WHY isn't there much else to say?  Say else, damn it all.  How is your show, how is your life?  Hell and damnation, woman, tell us everything.
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Post by: bk on March 02, 2004, 11:18:13 PM
And may I just ask where in tarnation IS everyone?
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Post by: Panni on March 02, 2004, 11:27:22 PM
I'm back to say I remembered how to knit! I was trying to follow the directions in this farshtinkener knitting book, when my fingers suddenly started to work on their own. They remembered from 20 years ago! Clever little digits!
Off to bed. Good night, all.
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Post by: bk on March 02, 2004, 11:32:19 PM
Good God, woman, say else.  We are waiting for else.
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Post by: bk on March 02, 2004, 11:47:05 PM
So sad to be all alone in the world.  Here we had dear reader Ann, refusing to say else.  Here we had Panni, who came back on to tell us she was knitting.  Here we have been deserted by one and all and also all and one.  Here am I, on my own, doing a monologue.
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Post by: bk on March 02, 2004, 11:55:25 PM
So sad to be all alone in the world.  Has anyone else noticed that Ann did not say else.  She also did not say goodbye.  But, that's all right.  Don't like goodbyes, tears or sighs, I ain't too good at leavin' time...
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Post by: bk on March 02, 2004, 11:55:43 PM
I am my own frenzy.
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Post by: bk on March 02, 2004, 11:56:15 PM
I will post until the fershluganah cows come home and there is nothing anyone can do about it.
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Post by: bk on March 02, 2004, 11:56:58 PM
Look at Jed, George and Tom of Oz, just sitting there like a dead herring in the moonlight.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: bk on March 02, 2004, 11:58:02 PM
They sit there, smirking, thinking, "I shall not post, I shall not post".  
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: bk on March 02, 2004, 11:58:24 PM
And that is fine by me as I am my own posting frenzy and nothing can stop me now.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: bk on March 02, 2004, 11:59:06 PM
I've got two count them two minutes until new notes are up and I will be damned if I'll just sit here complacently watching the parade go by.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: bk on March 03, 2004, 12:00:08 AM
Oh, and there's TCB, joining the throng.  I see the throng but the throng is wrong because they are just sitting there like a collective dead herring in the moonlight.
Title: Re:IF IT'S TUESDAY IT MUST BE TUESDAY
Post by: bk on March 03, 2004, 12:00:40 AM
Well, this frenzy has been brought to you by me.