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Title: HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: bk on May 29, 2004, 12:00:40 AM
Well, you've read the notes, you know the ins and outs and also the outs and ins of the notes, you've seasoned the notes with paprika, and now you are ready to post on this gloriously glorious very long weekend.

Seasoned the notes with paprika? ::)
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Jay on May 29, 2004, 12:12:11 AM
I had the displeasure last year of seeing the two worst films I have ever seen:  Girls Will be Girls and O, Fantasma.  Both of them made the rounds of the gay film festival circuit, and GWBG even won some awards.  Not sure how that happened.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Panni on May 29, 2004, 12:15:43 AM
Paprika! The best spice in the world.

Worst movie: I'll have to think of a list, but the first that pops into my head is BUTTERFLY, starring Miss Pia Zadora, Stacy Keach, Orson Welles (and Ed McMahon!)
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Jay on May 29, 2004, 12:30:08 AM
Of course, some films are so bad they're good.  Can't Stop the Music would be my favorite in that category.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: elmore3003 on May 29, 2004, 02:31:04 AM
Good morning, all!  

The TOD runs a gamut here, from really bad cheap films like  Ed Wood's to big studio duds like LOST HORIZON, which still makes me cringe, and A CHORUS LINE, which Joe Bob Briggs once called the best horror film of 1985.

I choose REFLECTIONS IN A GOLDEN EYE, which DR MBarnum will want to see since Gordon Mitchell is in it.   The director was John Huston, the cast was game, and I've never forgotten Liz Taylor screaming "Normal? You call her normal? She cut off her nipples with the garden shears!"




Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on May 29, 2004, 05:32:03 AM
DR Elmore,

Ah, yes, I remember the garden shears line. And what about the major (the naked one on the horse) who sniffs Elizabeth Taylor's panties. That was quite a movie.

There are some other Elizabeth Taylor stinkers. Boom? The Blue Bird?

And, along with Ed Wood, there is Doris Wishman; notably "Deadly Weapons," which are, of course, Chesty Morgan's size-73 boobs.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Robin on May 29, 2004, 05:34:08 AM
It's almost impossible to make a movie without some redeeming features.  For all his limitations, Ed Wood made some pretty amusing movies...

Reflections in a Golden Eye is certainly awful, but it's also quite funny in spots...seeing Marlon Brando ogle the nekkid, horse-riding Robert Forster is pretty amusing, and seeing Liz Taylor whip Brando with a riding crop nearly gave me a heart attack.

Myra Breckinridge had some entertainment value.  Not much, I grant you, but there's a scene in the movie which I will refrain from describing (not because it's undescribable, but because it's just plain filthy) because I don't wanna be responsible for turning HHW into a porn site.  But, said scene is one I personally found hilarious.  

Girls Will Be Girls is indeed every bit as wretched as Jay said.  I even fell asleep during the last fifteen minutes or so of the movie...and I almost never fall asleep in the theater.  

The wretchedest movie I've seen in recent years is Battlefield Earth: A Saga of the Year 3000, starring John Travolta and based on the novel by L. Ron Hubbard.  I have no idea whether or not the novel is as off-the-wall stupid as this movie, and I have no intention of finding out.  

The movie takes place 1000 years after these big Rastafarian-looking aliens have taken over the earth, and reduced the human race back into being cavepeople.  This doesn't prevent these primative screwheads from finding a US Air Force base, and in a few hours in a flight simulator, the cavemen are ready to fight the aliens in their Harrier JumpJets...where did the flight simulator draw power from, and who has been maintaining Harrier JumpJets in working order for a millienium?  No one.  They work because the script says they do.  

The movie has all kinds of intended satire, which falls flat because it's all either too obvious, or just plain moronic.  John Travolta's entire performance as the evil alien overlord is nothing but a bad impression of Bette Davis.  Forrest Whittaker is wasted as Travolta's boot-licking lackey.  The movie features some of the nastiest-looking set design you'll ever see, and all of the characters are just grungy and filthy-looking.  And, worst of all, the director of the movie tilts the camera in every scene, for no discernable reason at all.  

It's boring, stupid, and unpleasant.  It's not even redeemed by unintentional humor.  

It just may be the worst movie I've ever seen.  
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on May 29, 2004, 05:49:50 AM
Basic Instinct. As if the acting/directing/writing/ending aren't awful enough, do we really need to see Michael Douglas's tuchus?
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Matt H. on May 29, 2004, 06:13:31 AM
I have to agree with DR Robin about BATTLEFIELD EARTH. Of movies released in the last decade, it has to be the absolute worst.

A similar big screen, big budget epic in the same disaster category is INCHON with Laurence Olivier and financed by Reverand Sun-Yung-Moon.

I never saw SKIDOO, but I do remember being in a movie theater watching something else, and the previews for SKIDOO came on, and I couldn't get over how horrendous the PREVIEWS were! I knew I wanted to have nothing to do with the movie just on the basis of that trailer.

And I know that BEYOND THE VALLEY OF THE DOLLS has its fans here, but I find it dreadful in every respect, too.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Matt H. on May 29, 2004, 06:16:31 AM
Just wanted to remind those interested that the documentary about ELAINE STRITCH AT LIBERTY comes on HBO tonight at 8 p.m. EDT followed by the broadcast premiere of DOWN WITH LOVE which I know several of you didn't like but which I'm eager to see since I didn't see it at the theater or rent it on DVD.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Matt H. on May 29, 2004, 06:19:05 AM
Have to agree about the musical LOST HORIZON, too. And I loathed the cut (theatrical) edition of HEAVEN'S GATE. Did anyone ever see the much expanded director's cut? Is it any better in the three hour long version?

As for celebrated bad movies, I've never seen ISHTAR or GIGLI so I can't comment on either of them.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: td on May 29, 2004, 06:57:36 AM
Count me in as one of the few, the precious few, who actually SAW SKIDOO in theaters in its initial run!  Didn't know what to make of it then, but, I know I would love to see it once more.  surprisingly enough, Mr. Leonard Maltin's TV & Video Movie Guide is kinder to SKIDOO than I would have ever dreamed!

EYES WIDE SHUT certainly falls into the category of today's TOD for me.  THE SHINING, also.  BARRY LYNDON.  

CALIGULA as produced by Penthouse certainly had game (and very flesh-baring) actors and extras running around, but still managed to be unerotic and ridiculous.

FREEBIE AND THE BEAN is the only film I have ever walked out of.

SUCH GOOD FRIENDS is a true curio, see it only if you want to see the aged Burgess Meredith in the buff.  (like Danny DeVito's butt in BIG FISH a traumatic experience).

And, before it's brought up, I am one of the admirers of AT LONG LAST LOVE in either of its incarnations: the television cut, done by Bogdonavich, may be slighter better if only because Ms. Kahn is given so much more to do and sing.

I thought I would like LOST HORIZON.  The opening sequences on the airfield are nearly shot-for-shot from the Capra film, then suddenly we're on the redressed CAMELOT set (which hardly looks redressed), there's this weird fertility dance (IF seen in its theatrical cut), there are Olivia Hussey's . . .well, let's say that she's grown a lot since ROMEO AND JULIET.

There's another: Baz Lurman's ROMEO + JULIET is pretty bad all around, too.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Jrand73 on May 29, 2004, 07:00:01 AM
DRJANE - I thought I wrote about RAMAR yesterday...grrrrrrr....anyway, I remember it well, and the station here also showed it with TARZAN and BOMBA movies.  I liked it better than JUNGLE JIM.

My favorite though was CAPTAIN GALLANT OF THE FOREIGN LEGION with Buster and Cuffy Crabbe.  I loved those hats!

I have heard people talk about CHINA SMITH, but I have never seen an episode.

Gee, worst movies....hmmmmmm.  Maybe the remakes of NOT OF THIS EARTH and INVADERS FROM MARS....or maybe those were just unnecessary movies.  

I guess if I was to choose a WORST movie I ever paid to see, it would have to be THE WIZ.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Jrand73 on May 29, 2004, 07:02:07 AM
DRMATTH - I enjoyed DOWN WITH LOVE a lot.  If you have a chance, watch PILLOW TALK this afternoon so you can see how clever it really is.  I liked it, and I know a lot of people didn't, but I thought it was a clever and knowing homage to Doris and Rock, not a satire of the genre.  Anxious to hear what you think of it.

I used to have the soundtrack album from SKIDOO!  Hmmmmmm....avoided the movie like the plague.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Jrand73 on May 29, 2004, 07:04:51 AM
td- you are so right about LOST HORIZON....the first part is so good, and I even think we're going to be allright....but then there is OOlivia and that horrible dancing...and then the awful awful songs and choreography start, and there is no hope.  Hermes Pan did a terrible job, the library song is staged in a ridiculous way (suddenly these characters start performing!) - maybe...just maybe...with a different composer/lyricist it might have had a chance.  Who knows?
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Matt H. on May 29, 2004, 07:08:27 AM
Actually, I recently re-watched PILLOW TALK when I was trying to decide if the non-anamorphic copy I had was good enough or if I wanted to trade up to what some people had said was a very mediocre new transfer despite being anamorphic. So, I should be ready.

I AM looking forward to seeing it. Can't believe I let time slip by and not rented it or borrowed it to watch before now. But, I'll watch it in high definition tonight and let you know what I think. And I say right off the bat that I'm a HUGE fan of the Doris Day-Rock Hudson movies.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Matt H. on May 29, 2004, 07:12:13 AM
I'm also a fan of AT LONG LAST LOVE. No, it's a very flawed film, but I find it genuinely entertaining despite the lack of musical comedy know-how by Reynolds and Shepherd.

If Fox can give us MYRA BRECKINRIDGE, why not AT LONG LAST LOVE?
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: td on May 29, 2004, 07:22:40 AM
And if MYRA can have a director's commentary, why not one from Bogdonavich on AT LONG LAST LOVE?
Fox has been good with seamless branching several of its titles (INDEPENDENCE DAY, THE ABYSS) in order for two cuts of a film to be on one dvd, they could also do this with AT LONG LAST LOVE.  

Oh, the one thing that is jarring in the television cut:  the late Dulio del Pretti's (translated meaningL Dull, but Pretty) over the top delivery of Porter's "Tomorrow."
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Jrand73 on May 29, 2004, 07:28:53 AM
LOL....some people certainly live up to their names!

OH OH OH OH....on July 7 - DVD alert:  THE ONE AND ONLY GENUINE ORIGINAL FAMILY BAND!!!   I am ten feet off the ground!

DRMATTH don't don't be scared by how (the late) Tony Randall looks...he doesn't hide any of his years!  But David Hyde-Pierce in the "Tony" role is very funny.  And of course physically,  Doris and Rock make Renee and Ewan look like someone's plain cousins - but they try!
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Matt H. on May 29, 2004, 07:52:46 AM
DR JRand wrote: "OH OH OH OH....on July 7 - DVD alert:  THE ONE AND ONLY GENUINE ORIGINAL FAMILY BAND!!!  I am ten feet off the ground!"


I have to admit after THE HAPPIEST MILLIONAIRE, I gave this one a pass, so you'll have to tell me what you like about it so much.

Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: JoseSPiano on May 29, 2004, 08:07:29 AM
Good Morning!

-And it's quite the nice morning here in the DC Metro Area - mid-70s, and the humidity is low too.  Perfect for the dedication of the WWII Memorial today.

Worst movie I've seen... Probably CHILDREN OF THE CORN.  That's all that comes to mind right now.

-Oops, I'm the bad host... No orange juice, no coffee... ah, well.. Steve seems to be doing fine with yogurt and white grape juice.

In any case...

I need to continue waking up...
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: bk on May 29, 2004, 08:31:00 AM
New Juliana journal entry up.  

Agreed about Battlefield Earth - amazingly bad.

Keep the home fries burning until my early afternoon return.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: bk on May 29, 2004, 08:35:21 AM
I'm shocked no one has seen China Smith, starring the great Dan Duryea and Dan Seymour (who'd you'd know instantly from many Warners films).  It was a spinoff from a film (not called China Smith - an early Aldrich film) and was produced by Robert Aldrich (he also directed many of the episodes).
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: bk on May 29, 2004, 08:37:37 AM
Now, may I just say where in tarnation IS everyone?  You'd think it was Saturday on a holiday weekend or something.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: JoseSPiano on May 29, 2004, 08:41:42 AM
DR Swishy Sarah et al et bruno et giovanni...  As for catching CHILDREN OF EDEN sometime in the next month...  We'll be closing next Friday, June 4.  So, if you plan to catch it next month, you'll only have four days of that month to do so.  -But there will be five shows since we have a 1:00 matinee on Thursday.  *And if you'd like a 1/2 price seat, just contact me.  And they still do have the "obstructed view" seats you can buy at the box office - and then just move to a better seat if it's available - the ushers here are pretty easy going.

-I'm still waking up... but at least I'm waking up...
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Jrand73 on May 29, 2004, 08:48:46 AM
DRMATTH - I had the BAND soundtrack LP a long time before I ever saw the movie - and I really liked the songs.  Of course the staging in the movie (I have only seen the TV version) didn't come close to what I had done in my head, but it was still enjoyable.

I guess I like it because of the score!  
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Jason on May 29, 2004, 08:49:02 AM
Gotta get ready for FIDDLER and 42ND STREET, but I wanted to check in before I hopped in the shower. I still have four pages of posts from YESTERDAY to read because I fell asleep around 8:30 last night and quite literally slept until 5 this morning, finished watching 'The Sword and the Stone' and went back to bed! Now I must get ready for a day chock full of musical theatre! Ciao!
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: bk on May 29, 2004, 08:51:25 AM
I'd add the movie Bounce to one I thought terrible with no redeeming qualities.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: MBarnum on May 29, 2004, 08:52:50 AM
Well, I have seen many a bad film in my day...but some of them I love! So I will just list movies that I saw and hated. They might not be bad movies, but for me they were awful.

That Matrix sequel...I didn't see the first movie so maybe I couldn't understand the second one...I just know I could not wait for it to end....then there was the last two Star Wars sequels...fell asleep at the theater during one of them...the other one I just wanted to slit my wrists so that the agony would end! LOL!
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: DearReaderLaura on May 29, 2004, 09:03:52 AM
I don't know from bad movies, but I am sure that "Dude Where's My Car?" must be pretty bad because it has such a dumb title.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Jay on May 29, 2004, 09:15:36 AM
Basic Instinct. As if the acting/directing/writing/ending aren't awful enough, do we really need to see Michael Douglas's tuchus?

What?  You prefer Danny DeVito's exposed posterior in Big Fish?



Note:  I see Dear Reader TD already beat me to provoking the image of Mr. DeVito's derriere.  Mea culpa.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Jay on May 29, 2004, 09:17:29 AM
Just wanted to remind those interested that the documentary about ELAINE STRITCH AT LIBERTY comes on HBO tonight at 8 p.m. EDT followed by the broadcast premiere of DOWN WITH LOVE which I know several of you didn't like but which I'm eager to see since I didn't see it at the theater or rent it on DVD.

The film's costume and set design alone make watching Down With Love worthwhile.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Jrand73 on May 29, 2004, 10:31:35 AM
So true, DRJAY - somewhere Jean Louis, Helen Rose, and Ross Hunter are smiling!
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: George on May 29, 2004, 10:36:29 AM
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What are the all-time worst movies you’ve ever seen – those without any redeeming features? Hold nothing back.

I wanted to say "Gigli" and "Ishtar," but I haven't seen either of those.

I also wanted to say "Can't Stop the Music" and "Xanadu," but there are parts of those that I really like.

So, the all-time worst movies that I've seen that I feel have no redeeming features are:

"Battlefield Earth"
"A Chorus Line"
"Star Wars: The Attack of the Clones"

Okay...they've all been mentioned already, but oh well.  That's my list. :)
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: George on May 29, 2004, 10:38:29 AM
I bought "Down With Love" used (for only $9.99) but I haven't watched it yet.  Since I have NOTHING to do this weekend (yea!), I may watch that, along with "The First Nudie Musical" that yesterday I said was in my DVD player.  Actually, it's right next to my DVD player, but I figure that that's good enough.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: William E. Lurie on May 29, 2004, 10:40:40 AM
Any movie that is so bad it has no redeeming qualities is usually so bad that it is entertaining in its badness.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Jrand73 on May 29, 2004, 11:28:34 AM
Oh my....I just saw a movie on HBO that I now include in my list of most awful movies I have ever seen.

BEFORE AND AFTER.  The acting by so many people I think are very good....except here...is bad bad BAD!!

Liam Neeson, Meryl Streep, Edward Furlong, Alfred Molina, and especially the hideous and irritating Julia Weldon as one of those "Gilmore Girl" type characters who spout the wisdom of the writers without convincing anyone that they could or would or was capable of having such a thought....horrible.

BEFORE AND AFTER....a car wreck.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Robin on May 29, 2004, 11:31:34 AM
There are tons of bad movies I love...Ed Wood's movies, Santo flicks, Russ Meyer, Doris Wishman.  But these movies have oddly endearing qualities.  

Blown up episodes of teevee shows like the Charlie's Angels flicks or Wild Wild West give me no pleasure at all.  They're so low, they're beyond ridicule.  
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: td on May 29, 2004, 11:34:45 AM
I don't know from bad movies, but I am sure that "Dude Where's My Car?" must be pretty bad because it has such a dumb title.

I call it a "guilty pleasure;" it's one of the few teen comedies which actually makes me laugh.  I laugh because it's so dumb.
From what I've been reading, I'll probably have to check out EURO TRIP, supposedly it is a comedy with heart, not at all what one would expect from the advertising.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: td on May 29, 2004, 11:37:49 AM
What?  You prefer Danny DeVito's exposed posterior in Big Fish?



Note:  I see Dear Reader TD already beat me to provoking the image of Mr. DeVito's derriere.  Mea culpa.

I think that I have been scarred for life, now that I have seen Danny's butt.

. . .add Tim Burton's PLANET OF THE APES to my list of bad movies, BUT, the dvd has an awesome DTS track, Helena Bonham Carter is quite good, the production design is outstanding . . .but the movie itself? Grrrrr... arrrgh.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Panni on May 29, 2004, 11:52:10 AM
Good morning/afternoon/tomorrow. I think that covers all the DRs. On my way home just now I dropped into the Studio City Library. As it turned out, the Friends of the Library were having a book sale in the back room. Picked up a few interesting items. A SATURDAY EVENING POST from 1963 with a feature article about "The Mysterious Millionare - Howard Hughes"...  With the new Howard Hughes movie coming out (THE AVIATOR) maybe it will be worth something. Won't be hard to make a profit - I paid 50 cents. For the same price I purchased a LIFE Magazine from 1968 because of the cover story "The Negro and the Cities - The Cry That Will be Heard" - one of the articles with photos and text by Gordon Parks. It also has a pictorial on the making of the movie CANDY. A friend of mine, the son of Terry Southern, has just written a book, THE CANDYMEN, about his father's adventures with the book and movie, so I thought it would be fun to look at a contemporary article along with the book - which I'm slowly reading.  LIFE used to be such a great magazine. Nothing like it today.
Now I must force myself to work while the rest of the world plays.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: TCB on May 29, 2004, 11:53:13 AM
I could have sworn that during a previous walk down bad-movie lane, I had mentioned seeing SKIDOO, which td and I apparently saw together on our first date.  However, I did a quick search of the archives and could find no mention of it, so I guess I was too traumatized by the memory of that disgusting excuse for a film to even type its name.  It is, indeed, everything BK said it was – and less.  I clearly remember the Carol Channing strip scene, although I wish I could forget it.

I have already mentioned, on numerous occasions, my total revulsion for LOST HORIZON (The Musical), so I will leave that one to others.  

Actually, I kind of enjoyed FREEBIE AND THE BEAN, but I don’t know that I would want to sit through it again.  The only movie I can ever remember walking out of (because I am basically too cheap) was BROTHER SUN, SISTER MOON but I don’t know if it was really that awful or if I just wanted a drink.

THE PIRATE MOVIE has to rank right up near the top of the list and, I’m sorry, but for me, XANADU should be on that list.

And, my final nominee (for now), The EXORCIST II: THE HERETIC.


Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: td on May 29, 2004, 12:01:31 PM
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The only movie I can ever remember walking out of (because I am basically too cheap) was BROTHER SUN, SISTER MOON but I don’t know if it was really that awful or if I just wanted a drink.

I think you wanted a drink.   ;)

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I could have sworn that during a previous walk down bad-movie lane, I had mentioned seeing SKIDOO, which td and I apparently saw together on our first date.


We met at nine. I was on time.  Ah, yes.  . . I remember it well.
We dined with friends.  A tenor sang.  Ah, yes .  . .I remember it well.
That carriage ride. You lost a glove.  Ah, yes. . .I remember it well.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Panni on May 29, 2004, 12:16:55 PM
I'm disappointed. Has NOBODY seen BUTTERFLY?

And I forgot that I also purchased at the library sale a signed, 1935 First Edition (probably only edition) of LAUGHTER OUT OF THE GROUND, an epic poem ("a novel in cadence") set around San Francisco -- for my daughter to give as a birthday gift to her father. Totally the perfect thing for her to give him. That cost $1.00.  (I know it's bizarre for me to buy something for my DD to give to my ex-husband. But you know how it is when you come upon the PERFECT present for someone. And for only one dollar, how could I leave it there?)
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Jrand73 on May 29, 2004, 12:31:47 PM
DRPANNI I saw Butterfly - and I think only Zadora in The Lonely Lady kind of knocked it out of my consciousness.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Jane on May 29, 2004, 12:48:04 PM

Matt H I’m so glad someone remembers Ramar.  Keith watched it, and I vaguely remember watching for awhile and deciding it wasn’t very good.  
MBarnum I hope you laugh as much as we do when you get around to watching it, not that it was intended to be a comedy.


François de Paris congrats on becoming a full member.  It won’t be long now before you are a God.  Jane of the jungle is a new one and sure beats getting asked where that other guy is.  I can’t even say it.

Beekay you have fun names for your girls.

Bruce I don’t think I watched China Smith.  I looked it up and I bet it was on past my bedtime.  My parents made me go to bed very early.


Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Jane on May 29, 2004, 01:03:03 PM
Larry, how could you remind me of REFLECTIONS IN A GOLDEN EYE!  That nipple cutting just freaked me out.

Robin we passed on Battlefield Earth:   In fact I’m so pleased I haven’t seen most of the movies named so far.

Jrand53 I forgot about JUNGLE JIM.  I would like to compare a few of those episodes.

Panni I saw Butterfly and a good choice for today’s topic.
I think it was a great idea for you to pick up the gift for your ex. And very thoughtful, even if it is your daughter you are helping.



Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Noel on May 29, 2004, 01:04:15 PM
DRPANNI I saw Butterfly - and I think only Zadora in The Lonely Lady kind of knocked it out of my consciousness.

That's the one I was going to name: The Lonely Lady.  I also could find nothing of any value in Moulin Rouge, although the DVD has rehearsals of some dances that appear to have choreographic merit.  Just not as filmed by Baz.

Here's my schedule for tomorrow:
7 a.m., arrive at theatre; help with preparation of stage.
7:45 a.m. musical numbers are "walked through" on our actual stage, all the first time.  (They'd not been staged when last we saw our stage, Tuesday.)  I'm hoping the performers will sing, so we can get used to how sound travels in this odd space filled with acoustical dead spots.
10:30 Our final dress rehearsal.
12:30 We may re-run a thing or two, but must have the stage completely cleared of all sets and props, and the carpet on the stage itself by 1:30
1:30 I may be given an hour to rehearse the music.  While I was promised two hours to rehearse the music, that had to fall by the wayside.  Even now, I kind of doubt this rehearsal will actually happen.
2:30-5:30 meal break (is it lunch, is it dinner, is it supper?  Not sure what to call that)
5:30 Reassemble to reassemble the stage and the sets, props and instruments
6:30 A final hour to run what needs running.  I'll insist that everything be sung full out, for the reasons stated above.
8 p.m. Our first performance.

So, I won't make chat.  In fact, I'm going to bed now.
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Post by: elmore3003 on May 29, 2004, 01:17:37 PM

So, I won't make chat.  In fact, I'm going to bed now.

DRNoel, Chat is MONDAY night!

DRJane, I remember Ramar as well; wasn't he played by John Agar or someone of that ilk?  After you saw REFLECTIONS IN A GOLDEN EYE, did you are your friends run out of the theatre and scream at the horror of it?  We did!  I'm not sure all literary Souther Gothic translates to film; I prefer HUSH HUSH SWEET CHARLOTTE.
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Post by: Panni on May 29, 2004, 01:24:29 PM
How could I forget THE LONELY LADY?! I guess BUTTERFLY knocked it out of my mind.
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on May 29, 2004, 01:28:38 PM
Good afternoon, all!  A beautiful, glorious Saturday afternoon here in Jersey, where I've been prepping Mom's back garden for this evening's planting of tomatoes (of the supersonic and cherry varieties), green peppers, petunias, marigolds, impaitients and panseys.  Taking a break for now to eat a late lunch and to check in here, so I won't be completely e & t this weekend.  

In appropriate as it may be to say on this particular weekend, the worse movie I ever saw was Gettysburgh.  Tedious beyond belief (at four hours in length) and chock full of hammy performances.  I had to suffer through the entire thing because I went with a friend who was a Civil War buff and I wasn't driving at the time and had no car.  To make matters worse, we went to a "premier" showing which was largely attended by battalions of Civil War re-enactors form the Philadelphia area who actually appeared in the movie.  Of course, they were all dressed in full Civil War regailia, along with the woman folk they brought along (who were likewise dressed in the time period with hoop skirts.)  I have never been able to bring myself to go near this movie again to see if it's as bad as I remember it.

I do, however, have a hankering to see Skidoo.
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Post by: Matt H. on May 29, 2004, 01:31:26 PM
I'm sure there are a lot of terrible movies out now, but I go to the theater so seldom that I'm missing many of them. They're all out on DVD, but I'm choosy when it comes to them, too. So, most of the bad movies I know about are from years and years and years ago.
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Post by: Matt H. on May 29, 2004, 01:36:42 PM
Speaking of that LIFE article on the making of CANDY, I thought that movie was pretty awful. I'm sure straight guys must have lusted over the actress playing the title role, but the film offered nothing for me.
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Post by: bk on May 29, 2004, 01:53:24 PM
Back from the book fair and now the question can be answered definitively: I have not stayed too long at the fair, because the fair was BORING, other than seeing a few nice folks I know.   Here is a photo of the BORING book fair.
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Post by: Tomovoz on May 29, 2004, 01:53:48 PM
I guess I avoid "Bad" movies! The least enjoyable movies I have watched (and should not have bothered with at all) are "Blame It On Rio", and yes folk, "Beaches" and "Steel Magnolias". Would never bother with any of those again. I guess it's just taste, but to me they were as interesting as "Ishtar".
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Post by: bk on May 29, 2004, 01:54:13 PM
And here is a photo of dear reader Pogue during our beverage break.  He approved this photo.
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Post by: François de Paris on May 29, 2004, 01:56:34 PM
Count me as one of those few people who enjoyed AT LONG LAST LOVE.... which I saw so many years ago.... and, as mentioned before, the singing and the "singing" ;) were recorded LIVE -- the old fashioned way!.....

Family Band; never ever saw that -- very "political" from what I know, but I do have the LP and the songs are real nice.... whatever that means!

 :)

As much as I like classic Disney products, i have to admit that, to me, Lt. Robin Crusoe, U.S.N. (1966), is a true Disney turkey! :(
... and what hurts is that, supposedly, Walt "wrote" the screenplay specifically for Dick Van Dyke....

Barry Lyndon has always been Boring Lyndon to me.... and I know I'm wrong.....

Oops! - spoo...well... you know!
Guests are checking in!
I'll be back later 8)
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Post by: George on May 29, 2004, 02:07:45 PM
Did anyone see "The Time Machine" with Guy Pearce?  I didn't, but I remember the reviews being very non-complimentary towards it.
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Post by: François de Paris on May 29, 2004, 02:07:47 PM
Quote:
That carriage ride.

NO! That SKIDOO ride!
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Panni on May 29, 2004, 02:12:10 PM
Back from the book fair and now the question can be answered definitively: I have not stayed too long at the fair, because the fair was BORING, other than seeing a few nice folks I know.   Here is a photo of the BORING book fair.

I don't know what you're talking about, bk. That photo is one of the most exciting things I've seen in years! The  mirth and  merriment are practically jumping out at the viewer. And FS Pogue in his (approved) photo seems to be virtually unable to contain himself.
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Post by: Panni on May 29, 2004, 02:17:55 PM
Speaking of that LIFE article on the making of CANDY, I thought that movie was pretty awful. I'm sure straight guys must have lusted over the actress playing the title role, but the film offered nothing for me.

Miss Ewa Aulin. She is certainly quite the little Swedish dish in the photos. Wonder whatever happened to her... Marlon Brando actually looks buff and sexy in the pics, too.
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Post by: Jane on May 29, 2004, 02:20:22 PM
Dan (the Man) do you mean GETTYSBURG with Martin Sheen?  I thought the movie was almost as good as the book it was based on.  I thought both were wonderful.

Bruce, I was wondering how you got Charles to sit for a photo.  You made a deal he can approve before you post.  The result is a nice picture this time.

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Post by: Michael on May 29, 2004, 02:24:27 PM
I am back.

Trainwrecks: Teenage Graffitti
and The Hounds of the Baskerville with Dudley Moore and Peter Cook, but I do understand (years later) that the NA distributer mixed up some of the reels which made the film very confusing.

There was movie I saw whose name I no longer remember. It was so bad that I wanted to walk out on it, but the stewardess wouldn't let me.
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Post by: Panni on May 29, 2004, 02:25:47 PM
Finally! PAGE THREE!
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Post by: Ann on May 29, 2004, 02:27:34 PM
Good afternoon everyone

I'm sure there are some really bad movies I could mention, but at the moment I'm just drawing a blank.  I'll post 'em later if I can.

I had a fun morning.  My friend's boyfriend came over and we watched cartoons and ate breakfast while she was at a job training thing in Seattle.  it was great fun.  Now I'm going to be a good girl and go work out at the gym.  Go me.
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Post by: Jane on May 29, 2004, 02:29:13 PM

DRJane, I remember Ramar as well; wasn't he played by John Agar or someone of that ilk?  After you saw REFLECTIONS IN A GOLDEN EYE, did you are your friends run out of the theatre and scream at the horror of it?  We did!  

Dear elmore, Ramar was played by John Hall, not Agar.  John Agar was married to Shirley Temple and disappeared after their divorce.  

LOL-I didn’t run out of the theater screaming but I’m sure Keith heard my reaction to the movie the rest of the night until he wanted to scream. ;D
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Post by: Panni on May 29, 2004, 02:33:30 PM
The photo essay by Gordon Parks in my newly purchased 1968 LIFE magazine is superb.
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Post by: Michael on May 29, 2004, 02:33:51 PM
The One and Only Genuine etc etc I saw on my very first trip to NYC and I saw it at the Radio City Musical Hall where you saw a show and a film for the same price. My father tells me that I ran so fast down the aisle in the orchestra that I almost tumbled in the orchestra pit
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Post by: Michael on May 29, 2004, 02:34:33 PM
Oh yes the movie wasn't that good, but it was the first film that Goldie Hawn and Kurt Russell did together.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on May 29, 2004, 02:36:47 PM
I approved the photo even though my hair is in desperate need of cutting.

Though the fair was boring as far as books go, it was like old home week for people I knew...the wonderful artist William Stout ( who BK also knows); famed film historian Rudy Behlmer (who I introduced to BK...it's ridiculous that these two titans had not yet met before), and then various and sundry book dealers who I've known for years.  I bought nothing;  BK only one slim paperback.
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Post by: Michael on May 29, 2004, 02:37:40 PM
And how could I forget about Exorcist 2? The worst and the most disappointing film I ever saw. Considering the cast and the director. The stage bound sets, the unintentionally funny dialogue, the bad special effects. I saw it the opening weekend before it was recut by the director. I also saw the french dubbed version which was supposed to be the European version. It was a little better. A lot of the comedy thankfully was cut, but it was a trainwreck still
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Post by: Charles Pogue on May 29, 2004, 02:39:11 PM
I also must say that Pasadena (where said book fair was held) is a lovely city...if it weren't for the smog and the earthquakes, I'd lived there.

Worst movie off the top of my head...How about HAMMERSMITH IS OUT...Dick, Liz, and Beau Bridges, I believe.  
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Post by: François de Paris on May 29, 2004, 02:40:05 PM
Yes, and Goldie is even referred as "the giggling girl" in the credits, if i'm not wrong!

I'm referring to FAMILY BAND!!! :)
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Post by: Jane on May 29, 2004, 02:40:34 PM
I just recalled a movie that was far more upsetting then simply cutting off one’s nipples.  The movie was with Vanessa Redgrave playing a nun.  The movie was horrible, but when she was about to be tortured with a douche of boiling water I couldn’t take it any more.  I walked out to find a lobby full of women.   ;D  Thankfully Keith decided the movie wasn’t worth watching without me because there was no way I was going back in.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on May 29, 2004, 02:41:44 PM
Jane, John Agar didn't completely disappear...he'd show up at the Ray Court Hollywood Collector Shows with consistent regularity, looking like a living corpse, hooked up to his oxygen tank.  Very sad.
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Post by: elmore3003 on May 29, 2004, 02:41:52 PM
Did anyone see "The Time Machine" with Guy Pearce?  I didn't, but I remember the reviews being very non-complimentary towards it.

DRGeorge, I preferred the Rod Taylor-George Pal film, but I had a good time.  I liked the cast and found some of it quite interesting.  OIf the films I've seen in the past two or three years, I don't believe I've seen anything worse than VAN HELSING, a total waste.
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Post by: Panni on May 29, 2004, 02:42:26 PM
famed film historian Rudy Behlmer

I sold and donated what seemed like a truckload of film books before I moved back here (ironic) - but kept Behlmer's MEMO FROM: DAVID O. SELZNICK.
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Post by: Michael on May 29, 2004, 02:42:50 PM
I had to a chance to work with Olivia Hussy on a film that was written by the Pope. Called The Jewelery Shop. (I think) I have never seen it and no longer remember what I did in it. But I had a chance to talk with Olivia and asked her about Lost Horizon. Basically she said that she did it for the money and had no idea how bad it was going to be. She was amazed that all the years later people remember the film even though it was bad. I did ask her about the infamous ring a round a rosey dance with the musical men. She said it was a hoot doing it and perhaps it should have been an omen about the rest of the film.
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Post by: Michael on May 29, 2004, 02:44:46 PM
I just recalled a movie that was far more upsetting then simply cutting off one’s nipples.  The movie was with Vanessa Redgrave playing a nun.  The movie was horrible, but when she was about to be tortured with a douche of boiling water I couldn’t take it any more.  I walked out to find a lobby full of women.   ;D  Thankfully Keith decided the movie wasn’t worth watching without me because there was no way I was going back in.

I think that was The Devils.  A ken Russell film the king of excess. I saw it when I was very young 16 years olld i believe. It was restricted to those 18 years and over.
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Post by: elmore3003 on May 29, 2004, 02:46:25 PM
Dear elmore, Ramar was played by John Hall, not Agar.  John Agar was married to Shirley Temple and disappeared after their divorce.  


DRJane, it's such a vague memory I'm not surprised I confised the leading man, but I swear my brother Tom and I watched it every week.  I loved Andy Devine's show a lot.  Oh, that Froggy!  Naughty!  And wasn't there a serial set in India on Andy's show?

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Post by: François de Paris on May 29, 2004, 02:46:36 PM
Oh.... another Disney turkey:

BABES IN TOYLAND!

I have great affection for Annette, but here... I'd like to spank her!!
She did NOT work for her pay, I can tell you that!
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Post by: elmore3003 on May 29, 2004, 02:49:06 PM
And how could I forget about Exorcist 2? The worst and the most disappointing film I ever saw. Considering the cast and the director. The stage bound sets, the unintentionally funny dialogue, the bad special effects. I saw it the opening weekend before it was recut by the director. I also saw the french dubbed version which was supposed to be the European version. It was a little better. A lot of the comedy thankfully was cut, but it was a trainwreck still

There was comedy in EXORCIST 2?  I think I saw it opening night, and they had to empty the theatre and air it because the stench was so bad.  I don't recall a single laugh.
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Post by: Michael on May 29, 2004, 02:50:01 PM
DR Francois

I wonder if you ever saw the film version of How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying in the French dubbed version? I remember seeing it on TV in Montreal and it had all the songs deleted from it. I was wondering it that is how it was shown in France?
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Post by: elmore3003 on May 29, 2004, 02:53:45 PM
I just recalled a movie that was far more upsetting then simply cutting off one’s nipples.  The movie was with Vanessa Redgrave playing a nun.  The movie was horrible, but when she was about to be tortured with a douche of boiling water I couldn’t take it any more.  I walked out to find a lobby full of women.   ;D  Thankfully Keith decided the movie wasn’t worth watching without me because there was no way I was going back in.

DRJane, Ken Russell's THE DEVILS based on a wonderful play by John Whiting, author of the wonderful antiwar play PENNY FOR A SONG, and a history by Aldous Huxley of witch hunting around 1635 in Loudon.  Maybe it's because I'm fond of the actual case that I don't mind the film too much, but Ken Russell sure could trash good material.  Excellent design in the film, sets by Derek Jarman and costumes by Shirley Russell, I recall.
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Post by: Jane on May 29, 2004, 02:54:05 PM
Charles Pogue, that is sad.  

Michael Shayne, I wish I had been restricted from the movie and obviously many other women agreed with me.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on May 29, 2004, 02:54:11 PM
elmore, there was a series on Andy's Gang about Gunga Ram the Elephant Boy played by one Nino Marcel...Wasn't the show brought to you by Buster Brown shoes?
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Post by: Tomovoz on May 29, 2004, 02:55:00 PM
DR François. I remember Barry Lyndon as being about 8 hours long! There was some wonderful cinematography though.
DR George: "The Time Machine" was OK for me until the appearance of Jeremy Irons. It really made no sense! I have an affection for the Rod Taylor/Yvette Mimieux film which has more heart.
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Post by: Michael on May 29, 2004, 02:56:46 PM
There was comedy in EXORCIST 2?  I think I saw it opening night, and they had to empty the theatre and air it because the stench was so bad.  I don't recall a single laugh.

The comedy was not there by design.

Richard Burton and Linda Blair on the bus going to the house in Georgetown. The driver is taking a break and eating. Burton blurts out "get going! The little girl has to get home!"

Or Louise Fletcher screaming for help as the house collaspes, but no one arrives until the house is completly flatten and Burton and Blair walk off into the night hand in hand. And then out of nowhere people, ambulances, police appear.

Burton in Africia goes up to a policeman and as him if he knows the James Earl Jones character. Kokamo?  He saids it several times and each time the audience laughed more. Then he finally said no.

Burton says something about being to a certain place but wasn't really there he flew there on a grasshopper in trance,

There are other examples.
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Post by: elmore3003 on May 29, 2004, 02:57:12 PM
elmore, there was a series on Andy's Gang about Gunga Ram the Elephant Boy played by one Nino Marcel...Wasn't the show brought to you by Buster Brown shoes?

Buster Brown and his dog Tige!  I loved Froggy!
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Post by: Michael on May 29, 2004, 03:01:54 PM
One of the boringest films I ever saw was the first film directed by William Freidkin after the Exorcist. It was called Sorcorer. I remember seeing it because I thought it was another horror film and I stayed on as I hoped that something was going to happen. The marketed it all wrong and most people did know what the film Wages of Fear was which was the film it was based on.

Also Freidkein per his contract has mood music play before the film started which pissed off a lot people and yelled for the film to start. I wonder how long that lasted.

I haven't seen it since it was first in the theater but I wonder if I would appreciate it more now and would not find it boring.
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Post by: François de Paris on May 29, 2004, 03:04:56 PM
Ahhhhhhhh Yvette Mimieux!!!

Was not she pretty????
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Post by: Michael on May 29, 2004, 03:23:00 PM
Tonight I am off to the Colony Room in West Palm Beach to the wonderful sing Barbara Brussell who has a great cd out on the LML (Lee Lessack's label for which BK has done work for) it is called Patterns and I recommend it.
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Post by: Robin on May 29, 2004, 03:25:09 PM
Did anyone see "The Time Machine" with Guy Pearce?  I didn't, but I remember the reviews being very non-complimentary towards it.

The Time Machine was a waste of time, but I did like Jeremy Iron's super-Morlock, who looked like the illegitimate love-child of Boris Karloff and Edgar Winter.  

And I've gotta say this.  At one time, Guy Pearce was a hottie.  Then, he apparently went vegan, or something.  Now, as he gets thinner and thinner, he's just getting unsightly.  Earlier today, the Significant Other and I went to a movie (The Saddest Music in the World, by the way), and saw the trailer for A Slipping-Down Life, in which he looks positively ghoulish.  He's become the male Callista Flockhart.  Ugh, and double-ugh.  
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Post by: Tomovoz on May 29, 2004, 03:25:50 PM
Pretty indeed. Which remind me. I have never seen "Light In The Piazza". Maybe I'll see the musical first.
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Post by: Michael on May 29, 2004, 03:27:07 PM
In honor of Francois begining page 4. Here is a dance for him.

(http://www.forthegoodtimes.com/images/animated_Can-Can.gif)
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Post by: Robin on May 29, 2004, 03:27:47 PM
Yvette Mimieux!!!   Was not she pretty????

She was on the cover of Life magazine, on the stands the week I was born.  

I'm sure that has nothing to do with her attractiveness.  I feel obliged to point that out.  
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Post by: Robin on May 29, 2004, 03:31:52 PM
I bought nothing;  BK only one slim paperback.

I went on a used bookstore crawl earlier today, but only found a slim paperback myself.  The World's Desire, by H. Rider Haggard and Andrew Lang.  I believe you recommended it on this site a few weeks ago, Mr. Pogue.  
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Post by: bk on May 29, 2004, 03:37:34 PM
I never missed Andy's Gang, and little Tige who lived in a Buster Brown shoe.

Speaking of bad Liz, no one has mentioned Boom.

Nice to see Michael Shayne back with us.

Those photos were taken with my new handy-dandy cell phone.  I am learning about all the fun things one can do with such a phone.  But it's so easy to take a photo and then instantly e-mail it to yourself (or others) - what will they think of next.  Actually I know the answer because I looked at a Windows compatible phone which puts you on the Internet with full Internet graphics through IE.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on May 29, 2004, 03:40:19 PM
Robin, reading (or should I say re-reading) The World's Desire right now...wonderful Haggard!
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Post by: François de Paris on May 29, 2004, 03:41:26 PM
In honor of Francois begining page 4. Here is a dance for him.

(http://www.forthegoodtimes.com/images/animated_Can-Can.gif)

Wow! Three Yvettes dancing the can can in my honor!
I love it....

Cover of LIFE Mag on the week you were BORN, DR Robin? What a nice coincidence!
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Post by: Tomovoz on May 29, 2004, 03:44:09 PM
A great omen Robin. Light in the pizza shop when you were born.
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Post by: Robin on May 29, 2004, 03:44:31 PM
The least enjoyable movies I have watched (and should not have bothered with at all) are "Blame It On Rio", and yes folk, "Beaches" and "Steel Magnolias".

Beaches was one of the very few movies I walked out on.  It takes a lot to do that.  And I sat through all of Battlefield Earth, Butterfly,Exorcist II: The Heretic, and Grease 2.  This should give you some idea of the regard I hold for Beaches.
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Post by: François de Paris on May 29, 2004, 03:49:25 PM
DR Francois

I wonder if you ever saw the film version of How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying in the French dubbed version? I remember seeing it on TV in Montreal and it had all the songs deleted from it. I was wondering it that is how it was shown in France?

Nope! I've never seen the film at all! BUT the stage musical made it to Paris and in French! I have the LP and i wish they would cd-release it, as well as the French Sweet Charity with Magalie Noel!

BK,
Can't find the post but some DR mentioned BOOM which went with a BANG!
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Post by: Jay on May 29, 2004, 03:51:37 PM
I also must say that Pasadena (where said book fair was held) is a lovely city...if it weren't for the smog and the earthquakes, I'd lived there.
 

Note, students, this primo example of a backhanded compliment.

It appears that Dear Reader Mr. Pogue suffers the delusion that L.A. smog somehow swirls around--but not over--his Los Feliz neigborhood and that his block has been designated an earthquake-free zone.

Signed,

A Proud Pasadenan
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Post by: Robin on May 29, 2004, 03:52:29 PM
They don't do paperback covers like this anymore:
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Post by: Jay on May 29, 2004, 04:00:03 PM
And I've gotta say this.  At one time, Guy Pearce was a hottie.  Then, he apparently went vegan, or something.  Now, as he gets thinner and thinner, he's just getting unsightly.  Earlier today, the Significant Other and I went to a movie (The Saddest Music in the World, by the way), and saw the trailer for A Slipping-Down Life, in which he looks positively ghoulish.  He's become the male Callista Flockhart.  Ugh, and double-ugh.  

Pity.  There's a scene in The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert in which Mr. Pearce appears shirtless, and he looks downright buff.
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Post by: François de Paris on May 29, 2004, 04:02:12 PM
Well...some DR has removed his/her post about Taylor's movies Blue Bird and Boom as bad movies!

That's a puzzlement... unless I'm hopeless and I can't find the post!
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Post by: François de Paris on May 29, 2004, 04:04:52 PM
Note, students, this primo example of a backhanded compliment.

It appears that Dear Reader Mr. Pogue suffers the delusion that L.A. smog somehow swirls around--but not over--his Los Feliz neigborhood and that his block has been designated an earthquake-free zone.

Signed,

A Proud Pasadenan

Is this called "artistic liberty" DR Jay?

I mean.... DR Pogue's statement!
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Post by: Jay on May 29, 2004, 04:08:09 PM
Is this called "artistic liberty" DR Jay?

I mean.... DR Pogue's statement!

Actually, it's a fine example of an extraordinarily effective survival mechanism that is quite common here in Lalaland:  profound denial.

 8)
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Post by: François de Paris on May 29, 2004, 04:10:22 PM
DR Elmore,

Ah, yes, I remember the garden shears line. And what about the major (the naked one on the horse) who sniffs Elizabeth Taylor's panties. That was quite a movie.

There are some other Elizabeth Taylor stinkers. Boom? The Blue Bird?


Here!here! DR Dan The Man 's post! (#5)
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Post by: Charles Pogue on May 29, 2004, 04:10:35 PM
How about the Liz Taylor dog...X,Y, & Zee starring her, Michael Caine, and the lovely Susannah York?

Jay, I still love Pasadena, but smog drifts inland.  The air quality is worse in Pasadena than it is in Los Feliz.  And during the last big one, buildings toppled in Pasadena.  One on Colorado that housed a favourite bookshop was condemned.  In my little home sitting on bedrock, all that happened was pictures went cockeyed on the wall and a very nervous bird we had died of shock.  It was okay, we didn't like the bird anyway.  But you should be a proud Pasadenan. After Santa Barbara, it's probably my favourite So Ca. city.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: td on May 29, 2004, 04:12:27 PM
I just recalled a movie that was far more upsetting then simply cutting off one’s nipples.  The movie was with Vanessa Redgrave playing a nun.  The movie was horrible, but when she was about to be tortured with a douche of boiling water I couldn’t take it any more.  I walked out to find a lobby full of women.   ;D  Thankfully Keith decided the movie wasn’t worth watching without me because there was no way I was going back in.

Aha! you have just mentioned one of my favorite Ken Russell films!  adapated from Aldous Huxley's "The Devils of Loudon," for once, Russell's over-the-top style is faithful to its source material, and also to the play that was adapted from Huxley as well.
I find that THE DEVILS contains a couple of truly brilliant performances, proabably the best performance Oliver Reed has ever given, and close to Vanessa's best.
For me, this film wouldn't rank on a worst list on a bad day. :)
And, as they say, "That's what makes horse racing."
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Jay on May 29, 2004, 04:15:11 PM

Jay, I still love Pasadena, but smog drifts inland.  The air quality is worse in Pasadena than it is in Los Feliz.  And during the last big one, buildings toppled in Pasadena.  One on Colorado that housed a favourite bookshop was condemned.  In my little home sitting on bedrock, all that happened was pictures went cockeyed on the wall and a very nervous bird we had died of shock.  It was okay, we didn't like the bird anyway.  But you should be a proud Pasadenan. After Santa Barbara, it's probably my favourite So Ca. city.

Good deal!  Thanks for allowing me the friendly joust.  Truth be told, your neighborhood is one of the extra-special ones in L.A., in my humble opinion (IMHO, in internet lingo.)

 ;D
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Panni on May 29, 2004, 04:15:39 PM
I should be working, but instead I'm sitting here reading my 1963 Saturday Evening Post. Here is a LETTER from said issue:
Dear Sirs:
The poem Jenny Kissed Me, But She Called Me Sir by Ogden Nash (Jan 5-12) is pertinent and so well describes my own feelings. I feel that it belittles our high elective officials and their wives to refer to them as "F.D.R.," "H.S.T.," "Bess," "Ike." "Mamie," "Dick," "Pat," "JFK," "Jackie," "LBJ," "Lady-Bird" or refer to the Duchess of Windsor as "Wally." I would like to see a movement started to rule out this nickname business.
Signed,
Harry B. Labarr
Sayre, Pa.

...I wish now I'd bought more old mags! I may just go out right now and check if the library sale is still on. Probably not. But it's an excuse to escape into the sunlight.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: td on May 29, 2004, 04:15:55 PM
DR François. I remember Barry Lyndon as being about 8 hours long! There was some wonderful cinematography though.

How could you tell?   When I saw it, all ten hours, it looked as if candles were the only lights, and there weren't enough to go around.  ;)
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Post by: Charles Pogue on May 29, 2004, 04:16:56 PM
I rather like THE DEVILS too.  But in many ways, Ken Russell's over-the-top style works for me...CRIMES OF PASSION & LAIR OF THE WHITE WORM are both immensely enjoyable.  And WOMEN IN LOVE is simply great.
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Post by: Panni on May 29, 2004, 04:20:31 PM
 And WOMEN IN LOVE is simply great.

Made me into a wrestling fan.
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Post by: François de Paris on May 29, 2004, 04:22:12 PM
The Time Machine was a waste of time, but I did like Jeremy Iron's super-Morlock, who looked like the illegitimate love-child of Boris Karloff and Edgar Winter.  

And I've gotta say this.  At one time, Guy Pearce was a hottie.  Then, he apparently went vegan, or something.  Now, as he gets thinner and thinner, he's just getting unsightly.  Earlier today, the Significant Other and I went to a movie (The Saddest Music in the World, by the way), and saw the trailer for A Slipping-Down Life, in which he looks positively ghoulish.  He's become the male Callista Flockhart.  Ugh, and double-ugh.  

He looks ok in the new Jean-Jacques Annaud picture Two Brothers, which is far from being as good as The Bear!

http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hc&id=1800019989&cf=pg&photoid=517180&intl=us
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Post by: François de Paris on May 29, 2004, 04:24:32 PM
Made me into a wrestling fan.

I KNEW you loved a cosy fireplace, DR Panni! :D
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: François de Paris on May 29, 2004, 04:28:10 PM

 In my little home sitting on bedrock, all that happened was pictures went cockeyed on the wall and a very nervous bird we had died of shock.  It was okay, we didn't like the bird anyway.  

Oh, you, sensitive soul!! :o

What if it had been the Blue Bird of Happiness???
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Post by: Jrand73 on May 29, 2004, 04:32:49 PM
Poor Annette - who says BABES wasn't work?

Johnny Weismuller - it was weird to see him in jungle shorts as Jungle Jim and Jon Hall was a slightly better shape as Ramar.

But as I said, my favorite was Captain Gallant, and his ward Cuffy!
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Post by: Jrand73 on May 29, 2004, 04:35:19 PM
Page Five Dance!
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Post by: Jrand73 on May 29, 2004, 04:36:35 PM
Great pictures of the book fair.  

MR BK and Mr Rudy Behlmer - a meeting of the minds no doubt!  I can almost imagine a project in the works.

Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Jay on May 29, 2004, 04:44:30 PM
According to this interesting site:  http://www.census.gov/main/www/popclock.html (http://www.census.gov/main/www/popclock.html), as of a moment ago the world's population stood at 6,371,300,551 people.

So can someone explain to me why my account number with my cable TV provider needs to be nineteen digits long?
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Charles Pogue on May 29, 2004, 05:08:27 PM
Francois, the bird was a female that we had gotten as a companion for our male.  She was mean to him and always skittish.  Good riddance to her!

Cuffy was played by Buster Crabbe's real life son.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: François de Paris on May 29, 2004, 05:17:44 PM
Francois, the bird was a female that we had gotten as a companion for our male.  She was mean to him and always skittish.  Good riddance to her!

Cuffy was played by Buster Crabbe's real life son.

CAREFUL! MALE CHAUVINISTIC POST! :o

Oh, females tend to be that way, from what I've heard! ;D
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Jay on May 29, 2004, 05:20:58 PM
I will be leaving shortly to go to Catalina's Bar & Grill--in the heart of Hollywood, California--to hear Miss Christine Andreas perform.  The venue is renowned for its jazz programming and, according to the excellent review in today's Los Angeles Times, Miss Andreas excels in this musical style.  Will file a report on the morrow.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: François de Paris on May 29, 2004, 05:30:03 PM
Oh, dear! What can the matter be?
Oh, dear! What can the matter be?
Oh, dear! What can the matter be?
BK's so long at the fair.

He promised to buy me a trinket to please me
And then for a smile, oh, he vowed he would tease me
He promised to buy me a bunch of red roses
To tie up my bonnie brown hair.

Oh, dear! What can the matter be?
Oh, dear! What can the matter be?
Oh, dear! What can the matter be?
BK's so long at the fair.

He promised to bring me a basket of posies
A garland of lilies, a gift of red roses
A little straw hat to set off the blue ribbons
That tie up my bonnie brown hair.

Oh, dear! What can the matter be?
Oh, dear! What can the matter be?
Oh, dear! What can the matter be?
BK's so long at the fair.

Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: François de Paris on May 29, 2004, 05:32:19 PM
Quote:

"Will file a report on the morrow."

Hope Karen is consenting!
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Charles Pogue on May 29, 2004, 05:33:55 PM
No, chauvinism about it...She was gotten as a mate for our other very sweet bird and she was an utter harridan to him.  A real nasty piece of work.  So we just didn't mourn her.  He...Applegate...outlived about three mates until one day he got loose and Humbug, our late cocker, got a hold of him.  I got him free, but he expired in my hand.

Speaking of pets, Blind Cully, our current cocker, was diagnosed last week with liver cancer...his decline is pretty rapid and the last few days, his eating has gotten rather sporadic.  
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: François de Paris on May 29, 2004, 05:34:33 PM
I like Christine Andréas tremolos, while I don't Michael Ball's!

--Sorry Tom, sorry Danise!

NO double-entendre here TCB!
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Danise on May 29, 2004, 05:34:57 PM
Hello all!

I went to sleep at 7:30 last night and didn’t wake up until around 9 this morning.  It was so quiet.  I listened to a bird or two but there wasn’t a car horn or traffic to be heard.  Very different from the big city.

One of the things about NYC was all of the people on the streets.  It reminded me of a Old Star Trek episode but I can’t remember the name.  At one time I could have not only told the name but who was it in and quoted most of the dialogue to it for you.  It was the one where the planet was so over populated that the people could barely move but they didn’t believe in birth control.  They wanted Kirk because of some illness he had and they wanted to give it to the people on the planet.  The leaders daughter was to be the first to die from it as a symbol.
 
Another thing  I noticed in NYC was how many cars there were but I didn’t see a gas station or a grocery store the whole time I was there.  I was curious as to how much gas is up that way.  I can only imagine that space being at a premium both horizontal and vertical, a gas station would waste to much space but I don’t know what people do for gas while in that area.  I guess you make darn sure you have a full tank before you go anywhere near there.  

Not that I would drive there.  I think I would have to learn about the subways/buses, etc because I wouldn’t even want to even try to drive there.

I had to go do a little grocery shopping today and I took the dogs for a walk.  What good doggies I have!  They acted so good.  They know the way without my even guiding them.  

They sat at all of the corners, where to turn and where to walk without my even saying anything to them.    :D  I love my babies.  I missed them so much.

Interesting side note.  As I was walking them tonight, a car passed and a guy gave a whistle and yelled, “Nice A** !”.  Not sure if he meant the dogs or mine but it was a bit of a shock.  

Well let me start my NYC story and then I’ll tell about SLC.  Settle in, they are both long stories and I may have to break them up a bit.

Last Saturday at this time, (7:30 PM) I was already laying down, trying to sleep because I had to get up so early the next morning.  All my bags were packed and I was so excited that I couldn’t sleep.  About the time I finely did doze off, the alarm went off and it was time to start to get ready for the trip!

I made coffee for Mom and tea for myself but I couldn’t drink it or eat the honey bun I had bought especially for the trip so I wouldn’t have to fool with making a breakfast.  I dressed quickly and put my bags on the front porch so I wouldn’t have to struggle with trying to get them out the door when the van I hired to take me to the airport came.  This turned out to be a good thing because he showed up a half hour early!  

To my great surprise it was a car, a Lincoln, not a van that pulled up so at first I wasn’t sure who it was.  The guy later told me that the van driver had not shown up so they sent a car. That was an option I had been given but it was much more money and I couldn’t see the expense.  

I had to say farewell to Mom more quickly than I planed and I felt the tears as the car pulled away.  It was just as hard to say it this time as it had been going on the Utah trip.  It felt so strange to be out on the road that early in the morning.  There were almost no cars anywhere.  The other person was in for a big surprise as well because he wasn’t expecting the pickup until an HOUR later.  Good thing that he was ready to go when we pulled up as well.

We had a pleasant talk on the way to the airport.  He was going to some kind of banking school in Boston and would be gone for at least 2 weeks.

We made it to the airport in plenty of time for the flight.  

On a bad note, I was wearing my gargoyle necklace and had to take it off to go through security.    The chain broke and I thought, “Uh oh.  Bad omen”.  

Let me end the chapter there and post it.  Will post again when I get the next one typed up.

BTW, I do have a favor to ask, if I may.  Bruce, may we please have chat tomorrow night instead of on Monday?  With Monday being a holiday, I can stay up and be in chat as long as I want.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: François de Paris on May 29, 2004, 05:35:49 PM
DR Pogue,
I was calling my post chauvinistic, not yours!
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: François de Paris on May 29, 2004, 05:39:13 PM
Quote from Danise's post

"but I don’t know what people do for gas while in that area."

They eat beans!! 
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Post by: Robin on May 29, 2004, 05:42:03 PM
It reminded me of a Old Star Trek episode but I can’t remember the name.  At one time I could have not only told the name but who was it in and quoted most of the dialogue to it for you.  It was the one where the planet was so over populated that the people could barely move but they didn’t believe in birth control.

"The Mark of Gideon".
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: François de Paris on May 29, 2004, 05:42:36 PM
Another quote

"As I was walking them tonight, a car passed and a guy gave a whistle and yelled, “Nice A** !”. 

Lucky girl! Nobody has ever said that to me, even when i walk alongside a donkey!
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: td on May 29, 2004, 05:49:56 PM
Speaking of pets, Blind Cully, our current cocker, was diagnosed last week with liver cancer...his decline is pretty rapid and the last few days, his eating has gotten rather sporadic.  


[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]Minx is sending out good vibes to Blind Cully.[/move]
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: td on May 29, 2004, 05:50:27 PM
Another quote

"As I was walking them tonight, a car passed and a guy gave a whistle and yelled, “Nice A** !”. 

Lucky girl! Nobody has ever said that to me, even when i walk alongside a donkey!

Vous avez un ane beaux.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: François de Paris on May 29, 2004, 06:09:04 PM
Vous avez un ane beaux.

Merci!

...un bel âne ... is more proper!

Why are we in CinemaScope again?

My âne is not that....large! ;D
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Danise on May 29, 2004, 06:11:06 PM
*Chuckle*  Well, I did do a LOT of walking on both trips.  Forget the "Trim Spa, Baby!"  It's the "Walk A  Lot in NYC and SLC, Baby!"  Diet.  

I managed to lose down to 124 as of this morning.  4 pounds off my goal, 9 for what the doctor wanted.  
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: François de Paris on May 29, 2004, 06:16:09 PM
I managed to lose down to 124 as of this morning.

Danise,

You should check with Lost & Found!
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: td on May 29, 2004, 06:22:09 PM
Merci!

...un bel âne ... is more proper!

They say that being prim is proper, but every showgirl knows that prim will stop her.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Danise on May 29, 2004, 06:33:02 PM
Actually I did manage to lose my sleeping socks.  I have this pair of red oversized socks that I always wear to bed when it’s cold but I can kick them off if I get to warm.  It had turned it a bit chilly for a night or two there so I was wearing them but when I went to pack, I couldn’t find them anywhere.

I can only assume that they got tangled in the bed sheets and the maid took them away when she changed the bed.  I checked with lost and found several times (not that it was a big deal but they were my favorites..) But they never did turn up.  Sigh.  I will miss them when winter comes to Florida next year.

I was going to mention the difference in the temp between up there and here.  I was almost always cold and wore my leather jacket in the mornings and evenings (not to mention the theaters/ice houses) but now that I'm home, I'm burning up.  It's 80 degrees (per Weather Bug) right now but I'm dying from the heat.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: elmore3003 on May 29, 2004, 06:38:18 PM
They say that being prim is proper, but every showgirl knows that prim will stop her.

Show girls get minks the way minks get minks.
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Post by: bk on May 29, 2004, 06:47:56 PM
Re that paperback book cover: Nice asp.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: François de Paris on May 29, 2004, 06:49:56 PM
Danise does NOT want minks!
She's too HOT already!

... and she misses her socks!

I guess NYC knocked her socks off!
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Jrand73 on May 29, 2004, 06:50:49 PM
Yes, indeed, Cuffy was played by Cuffy Crabbe - which I always thought was a great name!
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: François de Paris on May 29, 2004, 06:51:42 PM
Cleopatra gets "nice asp!"

Danise gets "nice a**!"

To each her own!!!
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: François de Paris on May 29, 2004, 06:53:32 PM
Show girls get minks the way minks get minks.

Gee! I'm all minks up!
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: François de Paris on May 29, 2004, 06:58:03 PM
I'm don't dare to say ('cause I'm shy!) but Cleopatra has a BIG asp!
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Danise on May 29, 2004, 06:59:21 PM
I think you guys have "minked" this for all it's worth.  
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: François de Paris on May 29, 2004, 07:00:10 PM
Wonder if she calls her asp IRIN?

... or could it be BAYER!
That would be meilleur!

... and one for meilleur!
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: François de Paris on May 29, 2004, 07:01:11 PM
Let's do the dance of the 7 minks, like they used to do at Minsky's!
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Danise on May 29, 2004, 07:01:59 PM
Ok but then let's call it a "wrap".  
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: François de Paris on May 29, 2004, 07:05:44 PM
Are you trying to foil me??
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: François de Paris on May 29, 2004, 07:09:23 PM
Que Seran Seran!
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Danise on May 29, 2004, 07:12:38 PM
My lips are zip locked.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: François de Paris on May 29, 2004, 07:13:02 PM
Now, don't get Mad, get Glad... and you'll have Happy Days, dear Doris... I mean Danise!

What did you bring Bear?
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: François de Paris on May 29, 2004, 07:14:50 PM
"My lips are zip locked."

Hummm... I'm glad TCB is not here now.... He would double-entendre this for sure!
We know how he is!....
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: François de Paris on May 29, 2004, 07:19:26 PM
Mr Cellophane... and all that wrap!
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Danise on May 29, 2004, 07:23:20 PM
And we're not double-entendring this?

I found some doggie treats for Bear and Brandi.  Pretty good too.  I tried a piece of one.  Very crisp.

But I'm leaping ahead of my story!

Let’s see, where was I on my NYC trip?  

The plane!  The plane!

 I had a window seat.  I can’t imagine sitting anywhere else.  The feeling when the plane is racing down the run way.  That excited/scared/sad/thrilled feeling all rolled into one?  Excited to be on my way, Scared that the plane was going to crash.  Sad to leave home and a touch worried I did the right thing leaving Mom by herself and the thrilling feeling of starting a great adventure.

An Oriental young man sat next to me.  I tried to talk with him but he said he had limited English and (to be honest) that turned out to be a blessing in disguise.  I’m sorry but his breath was enough to knock a statue over.  Whew!  I had to hold my own breath every time he leaned over to look out the window.  Ugh.  

Landing in NYC went fine.  I had no trouble getting my luggage or finding the transportation desk.  I had already arrange for a Super Shuttle to take me to the hotel.  I didn’t bargain on the driver being a reject from Mr. Toads Wild Ride.  The van’s AC was broken and the only window that could open was the drivers.  

I don’t know if I was sweating from heat or fear for life, limb and luggage!  

It seemed we drove down one street, back up a couple of blocks over.  Maybe you have to in order to get where your going but it seemed (to me) we went out of our way to get to the hotel.
But get there we did and the driver sure did perk up when I gave him his tip.  He even put my bags in lobby for me.  

Checking in was no big deal.  They had my request to check in early and said they had my room ready but it turned out to be one of those very small rooms TCB had warned me about.  Now, I could have lived with it but the bathroom didn’t have a tub.  Just a shower.  

I knew I’d be doing a lot of walking and would need a tub to soak in so I went back down to the desk and asked for another room.  I was told, “But you requested an early check in but had not said anything about needing a bathtub.”  To which I replied that I took it for granted there would BE a bathtub.  I never expected to have to ASK for one.” Gezzz.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Emily on May 29, 2004, 07:24:27 PM
François, if only you knew how much I am cracking up right now after reading all of you posts.

You kick serious âne! :D
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: François de Paris on May 29, 2004, 07:26:40 PM
DR Emily,

Vous êtes trop bonne pour mon MOI!

You're too good for my EGO!
Thanks!
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: François de Paris on May 29, 2004, 07:30:13 PM
Danise,

I tried some doggie treats once too, and was very happy with them!

That's when I knew that I could wag my tail too!

TCB?????
Where are you?!
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Emily on May 29, 2004, 07:32:19 PM
DR Emily,

Vous êtes trop bonne pour mon MOI!

and yet I would have thought being DRs you could atleast "me tutoyer"! Vous?  It's bad enough I was called "MADAME" by a metro worker yesterday!

(only 10 more years 'til 30 I guess...)
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: DearReaderLaura on May 29, 2004, 07:33:50 PM
Note to DR Danise: When I flew to Fort Wayne, Indiana, last week, I also had a window seat. In fact, everyone had a window seat.  The plane held 19 passengers. I thought the pilot would have made a nice date for DR Sandra, but she doesn't date younger men.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: François de Paris on May 29, 2004, 07:48:38 PM
Sorry, Emily!

I've lived in Montréal but that was so long ago that I forgot that people there use TU more than VOUS!

When I went to L.A. -- first time! -- I was rather young!
The waitress at the Roosevelt Hotel could speak French and she kept addressing me with TU, which I found very odd. Turned out she was from Québec with no specific accent though!
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: François de Paris on May 29, 2004, 07:53:13 PM
Dear Danise,

Did they bring you a bathtub??

At "my" hotel, we charge less if the bathroom just has a shower!

I hope your room had a bed too? (don't answer that!)
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Danise on May 29, 2004, 07:56:38 PM
You know from my post on that day that I got my tub but went from a queen size bed to two TWIN size beds.  Firm wasn’t a word for the one I slept on.  I swear started thinking about answering my phone as “County morgue.  You stab’em, We’ll slab’em. Which stiff do you want?”

The closet in this room was interesting.  Instead of being from side to side (like a normal one) it was forward.  Made my refrigerator sized closet at home look like storage shed..

I didn’t quite get the mirrors all over the one wall.  If there had at least been a double bed I would have thought I got the rent-by-the-hour room by default but two twin sized beds?   I didn’t understand that nor do I think I want to.   :D
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: François de Paris on May 29, 2004, 08:01:06 PM
Sally's friend had that kind of a room once, remember?

Was your hotel named Cabaret?
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: François de Paris on May 29, 2004, 08:02:08 PM
You should have slept in the bathtub!!!

I tried once and could not sleep a wink!
True!
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: François de Paris on May 29, 2004, 08:06:54 PM
I believe the mirrored wall in your room is a remnant scenery from the final tableau of Dames At Sea!
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Danise on May 29, 2004, 08:07:21 PM
Wow, DearReaderLaura, that must have been a small plane!  I didn't see our pilot on either the flight up or back.  

Maybe I did move to the bathtub in my sleep and my socks went down the drain.  That would explain why they went missing!
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Danise on May 29, 2004, 08:09:39 PM
I guess you could say that I felt right at home.  Remember, I have a VERY small house.  Or at least I thought so until this trip.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Danise on May 29, 2004, 08:18:02 PM
Hate to say it but it's getting late and I need to get some sleep.  Will tell you more tomorrow.  

Sleep well all!
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: td on May 29, 2004, 08:34:40 PM
It's bad enough I was called "MADAME" by a metro worker yesterday!

Were you walking with Wayland Flowers? ? ?
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: François de Paris on May 29, 2004, 08:43:35 PM
Oh I see!

Danise has been singing (sinking?) in the drain!

Good night Danise!
We enjoy reading your adventures!

Laura got to see the Pilot because she sat on his lap all through the flight!!
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Matt H. on May 29, 2004, 08:47:06 PM
I remembered someone had mentioned BOOM earlier, too, so I'm glad you folks found it before I went in search of the early reference to it.

Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Matt H. on May 29, 2004, 08:50:13 PM
William Friedkin's SORCERER was the American remake of the great French classic THE WAGES OF FEAR. Of course, it can't touch the original, but on its own I enjoyed it sufficiently. I'd never call it a dog of a film. The title, I'm sure, confused a lot of people who were expecting another EXORCIST.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Panni on May 29, 2004, 08:50:28 PM
FS Pogue - So sorry to hear about Cully. Hope the old guy has a peaceful time of it.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: TCB on May 29, 2004, 08:54:25 PM
"My lips are zip locked."

Hummm... I'm glad TCB is not here now.... He would double-entendre this for sure!
We know how he is!....

...then you are one of the few who does!
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Matt H. on May 29, 2004, 08:55:06 PM
DOWN WITH LOVE was an up and down affair for me. The costumes, sets, and story were first rate (lots of wonderfully funny double entendre), but I really thought the two lead actors were miscast. I can't put my finger on exactly why they weren't appealing to me in these roles, but Renee just wasn't tart enough, and though I'm sure there are plenty of people who lust after Ewan, he just didn't seem to have a feel for the comedy.

We took them for granted in their primes, but Rock and Doris are very hard acts to follow in that particular genre.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: François de Paris on May 29, 2004, 08:58:19 PM
I'll have to remember to ask danise about that "window seat" in the plane!

I don't know but if I were to use one I'd have the feeling I'm mooning people on the other side!!

"Window seat" is confusing to me; either it's a window or a seat!! It can't be both, can it???
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: François de Paris on May 29, 2004, 08:59:13 PM
Let's do the Window Seat dance! Page 7.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Matt H. on May 29, 2004, 09:00:25 PM
I made a DVD-R of the Elaine Stritch documentary. I like the show itself a lot more than the documentary, but the few glimpses of the lady behind the scenes were interesting because she's such a fascinating character. Still, they mention Brando calling her and we get a still of Brando on the telephone. Hardly necessary. Most of those inserted stills seemed superfluous to me: Burton, Noel Coward. Only the ones of her with her husband seemed right in the moment. The others seemed tacked on because it was a documentary.

However, the combination of the full show and this documentary will make a nice two DVD package.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: TCB on May 29, 2004, 09:01:42 PM

We took them for granted in their primes, but Rock and Doris are very hard acts to follow in that particular genre.

You are so right, MattH, we did indeed take them both for granted.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Ron Pulliam on May 29, 2004, 09:02:02 PM
DR François (of Paree): Try doing the airplane "wing" dance, instead.  Those window seats can be treacherous when doing Rockette kicks.

Good call, too...you have the "correct number" in one regard.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Panni on May 29, 2004, 09:03:41 PM
I went out and wandered around a bit -- the streets are pretty dead. You'd think it was a holiday weekend or something.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: François de Paris on May 29, 2004, 09:05:14 PM
Yes, DR MattH I thought exactly like you re: Down With Love.

Renée and Ewan tried hard and were somewhat efficient but they did not cut the mustard!
The secondary characters were better, IMHO.

Grant -- Hugh -- might have been a better choice....
Renée can't play naive convincingly....
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: JoseSPiano on May 29, 2004, 09:25:34 PM
Good Evening!

Well, I'm very tired... Or for our French friend - ami - Je suis tres fatigue.

So... I shall catch up on the posts tomorrow morning.....

Goodnight
Bonne nuit
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: TCB on May 29, 2004, 09:33:21 PM
Good Evening!

Well, I'm very tired... Or for our French friend - ami - Je suis tres fatigue.

So... I shall catch up on the posts tomorrow morning.....

Goodnight
Bonne nuit

Did you not get much sleep last night, Jose?
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Jason on May 29, 2004, 09:45:47 PM
Back from my day of theatre-going. It seems I will not be seeing GYPSY tomorrow, but that's OK--I've seen it twice already.

FIDDLER was MUCH better than I remembered it being. Ms. Randy Graff and Ms. Sally Murphy (Tzeitel) were both out, but Ms. Graff's understudy was good and Ms. Murphy's was actually much better than she is. There ya go for understudies. Ya never know what you're gonna get... Mr. Molina got the jokes and got the laughs and the show felt much tighter than it did four months ago. Quite moving and funny and good.

42ND STREET was very splashy and glitzy and full of razzle-dazzle. They need it because all that tap dancing gets old after about 30 minutes. I realized about 15 min. into the show that there's not much to it, but the production numbers were eye-catching if nothing else. And it turned out that an old grad school acquaintance was in the show! She and I did MY FAIR LADY together my first year at OCU. I doubt she would have remembered me, but it was nice to know that SOMEONE from our school is working (other than the ever-lovely Kristin Chenoweth).

Ms. Shirley Jones was quite engaging as Dorothy and Mr. Patrick Cassidy won the award of the night for Most Overacting by an Actor in a Musical. Yowzah! It was nice to meet them after the show. Unfortunately I forgot to tell Ms. Jones "hi" for BK, but she was quite gracious and kind and told us fun stories about her and BK's other close personal friend, Mr. Stephen Sondheim.

I have a confession, Dear Readers. Being backstage at both CAROLINE, OR CHANGE and 42ND STREET has started giving me urges. Yes, Dear Readers, I have strong urges to be in a show again and there ain't nothin' I can do about it. As frustrating and mentally abusive as acting (well, auditioning) can be, it must be in my blood because I crave it. I need it and every single time I see a show I think to myself, "GOD! I wish I were in a show right now." Really, I do. Someday it will happen...I know it will.

And now I must be off to the gym. I saw a chorus boy in his towel backstage at 42nd STREET and it's shamed me into wanting to go do some serious cardio and sit-ups. No comments from the peanut gallery, please, about the boy in his towel... I'm on to your ways...
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: bk on May 29, 2004, 09:46:08 PM
And one for Mahler.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: François de Paris on May 29, 2004, 10:16:29 PM
DR Jason,

Did he throw the towel???
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: S. Woody White on May 29, 2004, 10:34:55 PM
Just a quick check-in.  I spent the day blowing up balloons for a birthday party, listening to people yelling at each other (off the job) and to refrigerator magnets with sound effects (on the job).  The good news is that tomorrow is all on-the-job noises.

Must to bed.  Will try to catch up after work tomorrow.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: bk on May 29, 2004, 10:37:15 PM
Where in tarnation IS everyone?  Dear reader Jenny has all but disappeared off the face of the planet (she can't possibly still be having computer virus problems), and a host of other hainsies/kimlets have been making very infrequent appearances these days.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: bk on May 29, 2004, 10:57:45 PM
Sad to be all alone in the world.  The WUSSBURGERS have deserted the isle of hainsies/kimletsland.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: bk on May 29, 2004, 11:29:21 PM
What a revoltin' development this is.  Quick - who said that?
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: bk on May 29, 2004, 11:29:49 PM
Hint: Not Mahler.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Panni on May 29, 2004, 11:38:01 PM
Debussy?
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Panni on May 29, 2004, 11:41:22 PM
I was trying to watch a movie and fell asleep. I HATE it when that happens!
And it was JIMMY DURANTE who said "What a revoltin..."
What do I win?
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Panni on May 29, 2004, 11:42:56 PM
Sad to be all alone in the world...
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Panni on May 29, 2004, 11:46:01 PM
I'm hoping it's a car. I'd like one of those cool hybrids, please.   Any color - but not red. And not black.
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: Jason on May 29, 2004, 11:48:03 PM
Cher Francois de Paris--

Non, he did not throw the towel, thank goodness. I would have been totally embarrassed. He did look at me as he walked by with a "who the hell are you?" look on his face. I'm sure I turned every shade of red possible.

Back from the gym and I'm feelin' fine. I did about 8 minutes of abs (probably less, but I like to say that I did 8 ), and 15 actual minutes of StairMaster and 25 actual minutes on the elliptical machine, which I've only done once before and I barely made it through 5 minutes the first time. Average heart beat: 156. Calories burned: 527. Times I felt like I was going to pass out: Zero!

I'm gonna be svelt someday--I swear it!
Title: Re:HAVE I STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR?
Post by: bk on May 29, 2004, 11:58:13 PM
Incorrect, Panni.  "What a revoltin' development this is" - said every week on a wonderful early television program by one of my favorite character actors.  You win NOTHING.