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Title: THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: bk on June 08, 2004, 12:04:11 AM
Well, you've read the notes, the notes have not been elusive like the butterfly of love, and therefore you are ready to post until the elusive cows come home.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Tomovoz on June 08, 2004, 12:07:24 AM
So where is Bob Lind these days?
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: bk on June 08, 2004, 12:10:35 AM
Elusive?
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Tomovoz on June 08, 2004, 12:10:44 AM
"Daddy Don't You Walk So Fast" is absolute cringe material for me. I also loathe Seasons In The Sun.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: bk on June 08, 2004, 12:14:24 AM
Some of my favorite terrible songs:

Tie a Yellow Ribbon Round the Old Oak Tree, Danke Schoen, Honey, and so many others.  I've always been fond of the delightfully awful title song to Scent of Mystery in Smell-o-Vision:

A strange excitement in the air
The smell of perfume lingers there
Could it be love or could it be
The Scent of Mystery?
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Tomovoz on June 08, 2004, 12:20:05 AM
Almost any lyric written by the Bee Gees (they wrote some lovely melodies) - especially those written by Robin. Hard to Find a word with more than one syllable - "I Started A Joke" is my least favourite!
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: George on June 08, 2004, 12:23:27 AM
I hate "Feelings" and "The Shadow of Your Smile," as well as "Michele" and "Yesterday" by the Beatles.  When I was in high school, we had to sing the two Beatles songs and it was sheer torture...for me, at least.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Tomovoz on June 08, 2004, 12:31:18 AM
A collection To die for:

Buddy Knox - I Think I'm Gonna Kill Myself
Mark Dinning - Teen Angel
Johnny Preston - Running Bear
The Shangri-lahs - Leader Of The Pack
Ray Peterson - Tell Laura I Love Her
Jan & Dean - Dead Man's Curve
Dicky Lee - Patches
Everly Brothers - Ebony Eyes
Johnny Burnette - I Go Down To the River
Patti Page - One Of Us Will Weep Tonight
Barry Mann - Johnny Surfboard
Pat Boone - Moody River
Bobby Darin - Artificial Flowers
Bobby Goldboro - Honey
John D Loudermilk - Darling Jane
Jody Reynolds - Endles Sleep
Burl Ives - Mary Ann Regrets
Paul Evans - Hello This Is Joanie
Bobbie Gentry -Ode To Billie Jo
Roger White - The Mystery Of Tallahatchie Bridge
Twinkle - Terry
Terry Tyler - A Thousand Feet Below
Austin Roberts - Rocky
Frank J Wilson - Last Kiss
The Detergents - Leader Of the Laundromat




Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: babyfatso on June 08, 2004, 02:17:43 AM
I certainly agree with "Honey".  And that awful song about the horse and the woman and the winter storm - "Wildfire".  And Elvis' "Softly".  Go boo-hoo on your own time.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Sandra on June 08, 2004, 04:08:13 AM
My least favorite song is Home on the Range as *performed* by my grandfather. I also kinda like it, the same way I like leopard spots and the plastic lawn flamingo I keep in my room.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Ben on June 08, 2004, 05:04:23 AM
MacArthur Park, no question, wins hands down in my book. I either have to leave the room or change the station when that song appears.

Stairway to Heaven is also very, very high on my list of awful songs and I even grew up during that time.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on June 08, 2004, 05:18:19 AM
Obnoxiously cutesy songs in musicals, like Christine's "I Am a Little Sparrow," make me woof. The hit-you-over-the-head-clever song is another genre that really irritates me. High on this list is "Lights! Camera! Platitude!" from What Makes Sammy Run.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on June 08, 2004, 05:21:38 AM
TomovOz,

Thanks loads for mentioning "Seasons in the Sun." Now I can't stop hearing it. Yuck.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Noel on June 08, 2004, 05:47:31 AM
DR Charles Pogue...
Not sure I can explain Avenue Q in a way that does it justice.  It's kind of like explaining why there are all those doors in the set of a farce.

Ave. Q poses the musical question "What if there was a Sesame Street for young adults?" and so it has to resemble the PBS show that every adult under 45 grew up with.  Instead of explaining concepts like "sharing" and "the silent e" Avenue Q explains existential struggles and odd body parts you can touch during sex.

So, Avenue Q is a place where, like Sesame Street, humans co-exist with puppets and no body seems to notice the difference.  I saw the show at an early workshop and was fascinated by the faces of the puppeteers.  They revealed a full range of expressions while the puppets, of course, have a somewhat more limited range of expressions.  This was an early reading, but, my fondest hope, at the time, was that the puppeteers would not be hidden.  In many forms of theatre using puppets, the manipulators are unhidden and everyone accepts them as part of the show.

Of the Tony nominees, it's the only one I wished I'd written.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Jason on June 08, 2004, 06:34:34 AM
Hey...
If you happen to see the most beautiful girl in the world...


I think that pretty much sums it up.

Others that stick in my craw:

Tomorrow
Who's That Girl?
Turn, Turn, Turn
Purple People Eater
Take My Breath Away (that Top Gun song...)
This Is All I Ask as sung by Herve Villachez

Since seeing/hearing CAROLINE, OR CHANGE, I've been hooked again on hearing Ms. Tesori's VIOLET. Such a great score. I want to be in that show someday...but not as Violet, of course.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: William E. Lurie on June 08, 2004, 06:46:12 AM
Worst song I ever heard?  Anything disco!

I just read it was the lowest rated Tony® Show in history.  I'm not surprised.  So my question is since they know the show is only going to attract people who are fans of the Broadway theatre why do they lower the whole tone of the show trying to attract others with movie stars and pop singers?  Mary J. Blige was asked if she ever saw A CHORUS LINE and her reply was "I think I saw the movie".   And they should return at least the first hour to PBS where you get to see the less flashy awards presented instead of just clips of them.

Last night I attended "Broadway Bound 4", a program of selections from eight musicals in various stages of developement done by Broadway stars.  Had I known about it and gone to the first in this series in 2001, I would have seen selections from AVENUE Q.  The Tony® winning songwritters of that show appeared as surprise guests and performed a number that they had done there four years ago and was eventually cut from the show.

As for the eight new musicals presented last night, two of them were shows that I really didn't care for.  The first was an experimental piece about da da art.  The second was a musical by Adolph Green's daughter Amanda about sex.  I really felt sorry for Norbert Leo Butz who had to sing a song called "Please Let Me Feel Your Breast".

The other six shows all showed promise.  One of them --- a show about Dorothy Gale meeting L. Frank Baum in Kansas alternating with a gay love story 100 years later --- had some really good songs but the concept seems a little strange.  Another --- an a capella musical about life in New York --- was great in a ten minute segment but might not hold up for a full evening.  The most impressive show that I have the most hope for is a musicalization of the Capra film MEET JOHN DOE.

The cast was uniformly good.  Liz Callaway hosted and also sang.  Others included Kerry Butler, Howard McGillin, Stephen Bogardus, Jim Walton and Julia Murney.  Also most impressive was a performer I was previously unfamiliar with: Richard Todd Adams who did the Gary Cooper role in MEET JOHN DOE and who I hope continues with that role in any future workshops and productions of the musical.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Matt H. on June 08, 2004, 06:56:03 AM
I would agree with the Beatles' "Michelle" but I truly love "Yesterdays," probably the one song of theirs I really think it beautiful and worthy of repetition.

My least favorite Broadway song from a hit show (lots of losers from flop shows) is "Hurry Back" from APPLAUSE.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Jason on June 08, 2004, 06:56:26 AM
WEL: WAS has been around for a while...in novel form, anyway. I found a reprint of it at Amazon.com, and the date on it is 1993. The author is Geoff Ryman.

Was the a capella NY musical called AVENUE X? I have a recording of an a capella NY musical by that name that's been around for quite a while, too.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Panni on June 08, 2004, 07:04:45 AM
Good morning. Tomovoz won't like this - but I cannot stand "God Save the Queen"... (http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/verkleidung/costumed-smiley-042.gif) Had to sing it every morning in school in Canada - and I LOATHED it. It is so boring.

God save our gracious Queen,
long live our noble Queen,
God save the Queen!
Send her victorious,
happy and glorious,
long to reign over us,
God save the Queen!
 

BTW - If you want to hear the catchy tune and see the WHOLE thing - every verse - go to...

http://www.oremus.org/hymnal/g/g252.html

Other tunes will follow as the day goes on. I'm going to walk now.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Jason on June 08, 2004, 07:11:38 AM
A.K.A. "My Country, 'Tis Of Thee..."
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Matt H. on June 08, 2004, 07:17:43 AM
ANyone else interested in the new show THE JURY coming on tonight. It's produced by Barry Levinson and Tom Fontana who gave us HOMICIDE and OZ. My local TV critic really liked it, but the USA TODAY TV critic really unloaded on it badly, but then he didn't like OZ either, and I loved the first three seasons.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: JMK on June 08, 2004, 07:23:31 AM
Re:  Futurama.  BK, this is Portlander Matt Groening's followup series to The Simpsons.  While not quite in that league, it does have some clever moments, and is excellently voiced by, among others, Katey Sagal (have you ever heard her CD, BTW?  It's quite good).

Re:  worst song.  I guess I must be dating myself (no mean feat), but I cannot believe people are naming "Michelle" and "The Shadow of Your Smile."  Since most of you know I love Sergio Mendes (musically speaking, of course, not that there's anything wrong with that), I will name a really hideous little song he recorded during his disco phase--"You Get Your Love From Me."  Chances are, you've never heard it.  Consider yourselves lucky.

And, finally:  da-da-da-da-da-da (ba-ba-ba-ba-ba).  Why, you may ask, am I humming the Entertainment Tonight theme?  As I emailed JR yesterday, I was pleasantly surprised to get a very nice email yesterday from none other than Leonard Maltin, who is interested in my Frances Farmer research!  I am hoping Mr. Maltin will help get the word out about this much maligned actress.  Remember, you read Shedding Light on Shadowland here first (or at least had the link here first!)
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Jason on June 08, 2004, 07:24:21 AM
Add this one to my list...

http://www.treasurehiding.com/random/why.htm

(Click on it...it's fun!)
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: bk on June 08, 2004, 07:24:49 AM
I believe the "new" Amanda Green musical is one I saw here about six years ago.  Not very good, I'm afraid.  

Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: bk on June 08, 2004, 07:25:18 AM
Welcome babyfatso, to Avenue haineshisway.com.  
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: DERBRUCER on June 08, 2004, 07:31:36 AM
Notes from yesterday:

For Panni (women to invite):

Abigail Adams
Mary Shelley
George Eliot
Pearl Buck
Helen Keller
Catherine de' Medici

Moura Budberg -

"Ukrainian-born baroness, Moura Budberg, She married her second husband, Baron Budberg, in Estonia; later she fled to join the Russian writer Maxim Gorky, whose mistress she became

Moving to London in the early 1930s, she quickly established an intellectual salon frequented by her latest lover, H G Wells, the filmmaker Alexander Korda, for whom she worked, and George Bernard Shaw. Her social circle extended to Duff Cooper, the War Minister, through to Anthony Eden, then Foreign Secretary"

Eleanor Robson Belmont  Check Here (http://www.columbia.edu/cu/libraries/indiv/rare/guides/Belmont/)

der Brucer (would Charlotte von Mahlsdorf count?)


Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: DERBRUCER on June 08, 2004, 07:37:25 AM
And a note for George who posed:

Quote
Here at work, we're having a bake sale.  Someone brought in "mystery" cookies...actually, oatmeal raisin cookies from a recipe from a mystery novel.  Anyway, there is a "mystery ingredient" in the recipe and I was told (I don't like raisins, so I didn't have any) that the mystery ingredient was/is tomato soup!  Someone else did have some of the cookies and said that she could not taste any tomato at all.  Has anyone ever heard of such a thing??

Answer: Yes

From Harry and David's  O Chef (http://www.ochef.com/214.htm):

Fusion Tomato Soup Cookies (We made up the name ourselves. Like it?)

Ingredients:
1-1/4 cups all-purpose flour
1/2 teaspoon baking soda
1 teaspoon baking powder
2 teaspoons ground cinnamon
1/2 teaspoon ground cloves
1 cup shortening
1-1/3 cups white sugar
1 egg
1 cup condensed tomato soup
2-1/2 cups rolled oats
1 cup raisins
1 cup chopped pecans

Instructions:
Preheat oven to 350°F (175°C).
Mix together the flour, baking soda, baking powder, ground cinnamon, and ground cloves. Cream together shortening and sugar. Add in the egg and beat well. Add the tomato soup and blend. Gradually mix in the mixed dry ingredients. Then add the oats, raisins and pecans and mix well.

Roll the dough into walnut-sized balls and place them 1-1/2 inches apart on lightly greased cookie sheets. Flatten the balls slightly. Bake 10 to 12 minutes until lightly colored. Cool on wire racks.

der Brucer

O Chef's comment: We are torn between our desire to help you and our desire to help you see the error of your ways.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Jason on June 08, 2004, 07:38:35 AM
And don't forget Harriet Tubman. She'd be an interesting person to go back and talk to... And, of course, Annie Sullivan would have to accompany Ms. Keller.

I'd love to go back and talk to Lizzie Borden and find out what really happened, too.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: DERBRUCER on June 08, 2004, 07:42:31 AM
TOD:

How Much is that Doggie in the Window?
Cross Over the Bridge

Watching Your Hit Parade put a different spin on these turkeys week after week was painful!

Then there is always The Duke of Earl, Duke, Duke,...

der Brucer (who is ashamed to admit to knowing by heart most of the lyrics of previously mentioned songs - the sign, some would say, of a wasted youth!)
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: DERBRUCER on June 08, 2004, 07:51:21 AM
And don't forget Harriet Tubman. She'd be an interesting person to go back and talk to... And, of course, Annie Sullivan would have to accompany Ms. Keller.

I'd love to go back and talk to Lizzie Borden and find out what really happened, too.

Let's see, we could pair Harriet Tubman with Harriet Beecher Stowe; lets invite John Rubinstein to do the honors for Helen; and O. J. to commiserate with Lizzie.

der Brucer - hearing the defense summation at Lizzie's trial:

"It's just an ax, relax!"
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Stuart on June 08, 2004, 07:53:59 AM
Most reviled song (stage category):  "Motherhood" (by Jerry Herman and/or Bob Merrill)

Most reviled song (pop category):  "Laughter in the Rain" (by Neil Sedaka)

Most reviled song (holiday category): "Frosty the Snowman"  (Prevenance unknown, and I don't care enough to research it, but I am thinking Johnny Marks)
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Matt H. on June 08, 2004, 07:57:27 AM
I remember hearing an old Rosie Clooney song back in my youth that I didn't like but my parents loved: "Where Will the Dimple Be."
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Stuart on June 08, 2004, 07:57:40 AM
Page Two Dance:

[move=down,scroll,4,transparent,100%]SALSA[/move]
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Post by: bk on June 08, 2004, 08:00:10 AM
We are now a mere 2000 posts away from our next major landmark: 50,000 posts.  Let me tell you what a celebration that will be.

I agree about "Hurry Back" from Applause.  One of the worst songs ever written.  
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: DERBRUCER on June 08, 2004, 08:09:19 AM
TOD: just give us your all-time loser songs and include examples of their lyric content if possible.

OK - you asked for it!

WARNING - REALLY DIGUSTING LYRICS FOLLOW!
WARNING - SENSITIVE EYES GO NO FURTHER
WARNING - JANE!!! DO NOT READ THIS



GO NO FUTHER

YOU'VE BEEN WARNED - DEAD ANIMALS AHEAD

LAST CHANCE - TURN BACK!








DEAD PUPPIES

Dead puppies aren't much fun
When you call them they don't come
Dead puppies aren't much fun

My puppy died last fall
That's him lying in the hall
Dead puppies aren't much fun

You can't make them beg for food
You can try - it's no good
Dead puppies aren't much fun
They won't roll over, they won't play ball
They'll play dead, that's all
Dead puppies aren't much fun

When you pick them up they sag
When you walk them it's a drag
Dead puppies aren't much fun
Mummy isn't feeling well
I think she doesn't like the smell
Dead puppies aren't much fun
Not much fun

der Brucer (the author has the good taste to remain anonymous)





Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Jason on June 08, 2004, 08:18:33 AM
That reminds me of this "fun" little ditty:

Fish heads
Fish heads
Roly, poly fish heads

Fish heads
Fish heads
Eat them up...
Yum!
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Jennifer on June 08, 2004, 08:35:32 AM
Good morning.  My computer would not let me read the posts.  So I am just getting to them now.

For some reason, even though I slept well, I am incredibly tired and not feeling quite right.  I think I need some vitamin C or echinachea or something.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Jennifer on June 08, 2004, 08:37:46 AM
It is supposed to get VERY hot today (I think 30C++).

I will probably tape "The Jury" since there isn't too much on tv these days.  Although that will be changing in the upcoming weeks.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on June 08, 2004, 08:43:49 AM
Yes, "Hurry Home" is pretty dreadful. And from the same show I cringe when I hear the very forced:

I feel half Tijuana, half Boston;
Partly Jane Fonda, and partly Jane Austen

Another show that mixes the good and the ugly is Henry Sweet Henry. I don't mind "Pillar to Post," in which "Jack the Ripper" is rhymed with "Yom Kippur." But how did "To Be Artistic" wind up in a Bob Merrill musical? Someone else had to have written that one. The producer's kid, maybe?
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: JMK on June 08, 2004, 08:49:22 AM
DRs DerBrucer and Noel:  the world needs a medley of your two dog songs, sent in MP3 format, to the aforementioned Mr. Newport of RATM.  :)
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Stuart on June 08, 2004, 08:49:27 AM
I feel half Tijuana, half Boston;
Partly Jane Fonda, and partly Jane Austen

Funny, I always thought that couplet was one of the more clever lyrics in the show.  Of its time, certainly, but also clever, IMHO. (In my humble opinion, in internet lingo.)
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Emily on June 08, 2004, 08:57:51 AM
It is positively roastable outside.  Yea!  Summe is finally here! (if I weren't in air conditioned bliss I'm sure I wouldn't be as happy :) )

The worst song lyrics in the world?

THE HAMSTER DANCE

DA-DEE-DEE-DA-DEE-DA-DOUGH-DOUGH-DEE-DA-DEE-DA-DOUGH
DOO-DOO-DOO-DA-DOO-DOO-DA-DA-DEE-DA-DEE-DA-DOUGH
COME ON EVERYBODY IT'S THE HAMMTER DANCE!

Those are the only lyrics.  And at one point it was the number one song in Canada (back when I was in highschool)

Oy.

I'm off to eat myself some sushi-goodness and bask in the sun before work :)
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Emily on June 08, 2004, 08:59:29 AM
Oh... and Jrand were you as terribly disappointed that Calgary lost last night as I was?

Sigh.

I'm just hoping it won't be ANOTHER ten years before we see another Canadian team in the final. :(
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: DearReaderLaura on June 08, 2004, 09:00:53 AM
This morning I went for a walk and this is what I saw:
(The two on the right are babies)
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: DERBRUCER on June 08, 2004, 09:01:39 AM

Most reviled song (holiday category): "Frosty the Snowman"  (Prevenance unknown, and I don't care enough to research it, but I am thinking Johnny Marks)

Close, but no Clinton Playtoy:

Johnny Marks gets the blame for Rudolph, Frosty belongs to Steve Nelson and Jack Rollins (1951):

Extract from Xmas Songs (http://www.hymnsandcarolsofchristmas.com/Hymns_and_Carols/frosty_the_snowman_notes.htm) website:


The perennial nature of Frosty has greatly aided his public acceptance and commercial success. The clever story by Walter E. "Jack" Rollins (1906-1973) and the rather good melody by Steve Edward Nelson (1907 - ) of course are the key building blocks of "Frosty's" tremendous popularity (New Yorkers Rollins and Nelson also developed another musical holiday character, "Peter Cottontail" (1949), which is the best-known Easter personality.)

der Brucer (who always cares enough to research questions of world-shaking import)
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Panni on June 08, 2004, 09:10:52 AM
Thanks for the interesting info, derBrucer. Moura Budberg brings to mind a whole other category to invite/discuss -- women who've been mistresses to a series of very interesting men. There are quite a few.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Jrand74 on June 08, 2004, 09:16:09 AM
Yes Emily I was.  Calgary and Tampa Bay both played seven fine games - and I thought we might go into overtime....oh well.  :P

I don't enjoy FUTURAMA and never watched a complete episode, but MR BK - you may make it through one.  Not as clever or literate as THE SIMPSONS, just cruder.

About 40 years ago - I bought a 45 rpm record for ten cents...it was a lovely country song written and sung by Jenny Clay.  Its title was TREASURES WITH THE TRASH.  My sisters and I still sing it.  It is a song that should have been included in NASHVILLE.

To wit:

I found you in the arms of my very best girlfriend
And my world fell down with a crash.
I sent you on your way with my very best girlfriend.
I threw out my treasures with the trash.

Took your ring from my finger
And your coat from the hall.
Your only suit from the closet
And your pitcher from the wall.

And I burned everything
That I couldn't smash.
I threw out my treasures
With the trash.

Thanks to you, and her, too
I cain't pick up the pieces.
There was nothing left after the crash.
Just some odds and some ends
And some used-to-be friends
I threw out my treasures....with the trash.

The flip side was just as wonderful, something called Another....there'll always be another, and another, and another, just like YEW!

Never heard of Jenny Clay again, never saw a pitcher of her, but I hope she plays her 45 for herself where ever she is!
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Ron Pulliam on June 08, 2004, 09:16:37 AM
My least favorite song (or, my favorite song to hate) is "You Light Up My Life" in all its forms, followed swiftly and closely by "My Heart Will Go On."
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Ron Pulliam on June 08, 2004, 09:19:37 AM
Most reviled song (stage category):  "Motherhood" (by Jerry Herman and/or Bob Merrill)

Most reviled song (pop category):  "Laughter in the Rain" (by Neil Sedaka)

Most reviled song (holiday category): "Frosty the Snowman"  (Prevenance unknown, and I don't care enough to research it, but I am thinking Johnny Marks)

I totally ADORE "Motherhood" -- such fun, such gaiety, such joyfulness!!
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: DERBRUCER on June 08, 2004, 09:23:51 AM
That reminds me of this "fun" little ditty:

Fish heads
Fish heads
Roly, poly fish heads

Fish heads
Fish heads
Eat them up...
Yum!


But that's just the refrain - here are the verses:


In the morning,
Laughing happy fish heads,
In the evening,
Floating in the soup,
...
Ask a fish head,
Anything you want to,
They won't answer,
They can't talk
...
I took a fish head,
Out to see a movie,
Didn't have to pay
To get it in
...

They cant play baseball,
They dont wear sweaters,
There not good dancers,
They dont play drums
...
Roly poly fish heads are never seen
Drinking cappucino in Italian resturants,
With oriental women, yeah
...
Fish heads fish heads,
Roly poly fish heads,
Fish heads fish heads,
Eat them up yum,

Yea..

der Brucer (glad to meet another Dr. Demento fan)
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Ron Pulliam on June 08, 2004, 09:39:05 AM
One of the most damnably addictive -- and maddening -- songs to ever enter my head is "Teddy Bears Picnic."

If you go down in the woods today,
You're sure of a big surprise.
If you go down in the woods today,
You'd better go in disguise.

For every bear that ever there was
Will gather there for certain because
Today's the day the Teddy Bears have their picnic.

Every Teddy Bear who's been good
Is sure of a treat today.
There's lots of marvelous things to eat
And wonderful games to play.

Beneath the trees where nobody sees
They'll hide and seek as long as they please
'Cause that's the way the Teddy Bears have their picnic.

If you go down in the woods today,
You'd better not go alone.
It's lovely down in the woods today,
But safer to stay at home.

For every bear that ever there was
Will gather there for certain because
Today's the day the Teddy Bears have their picnic.

Picnic time for Teddy Bears...
The little Teddy Bears are having a lovely time today.
Watch them, catch them unawares,
And see them picnic on their holiday.

See them gaily gad about.
They love to play and shout.
They never have any care.

At six o'clock their Mummies and Daddies
Will take them home to bed,
Because they're tired little Teddy Bears.


And if the melody eludes you, turn on your speakers and visit this URL:

http://www.northern-pine.com/songs/tbpicnic.html
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: DERBRUCER on June 08, 2004, 09:41:05 AM
DRs DerBrucer and Noel:  the world needs a medley of your two dog songs, sent in MP3 format, to the aforementioned Mr. Newport of RATM.  :)

Maybe he's enjoy this one:

Squirrels

squirrels
all we really are is squirrels
we're being hunted we are squirrels
we are applealing we are squirrels

we want to gather nuts
but people splatter our guts
when they're on a country drive
it isn't easy to survive

back in the other day
i saw a squirrel get blown away
they served him on a dinner tray
they baked him into a suflay
squirrel season opens up today
if your a squirrel run away
i dont know what else i should say
please call the ASPCA

fur coats from us are made
fur is nice but i like swade
they scrape our fur off with a blade
and never bother with first aid
we squirrels mainly like to play
and we like to catch some rays
please dont kill us this we pray
we're cute and harmless anyway

squirrels we're not delicious
squirrels we are not racoons
squirrels dont live in palm trees
squirrels or in your bathroom

squirrels
thats all we really are is
squirrels
isnt it fine i am a squirrel
please help em save us we are
squirrels
i wanna whip out my
squirrel
squirrels x8

der Brucer (not resposible for i, suflay, swade, etc - I'm just a cut-and-paste junky!)


Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Jason on June 08, 2004, 09:43:22 AM
One of my distant relatives wrote THE TEDDY BEAR PICNIC. Go figure.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: DERBRUCER on June 08, 2004, 09:53:26 AM

About 40 years ago - I bought a 45 rpm record for ten cents...it was a lovely country song written and sung by Jenny Clay.  Its title was TREASURES WITH THE TRASH.  

It was relased in 1966. You can buy another copy for $3.50 (inflation you know) from 45 Archive (http://www.45archive.com/):

CLAY, JENNY
COLUMBIA 43328 Treasures With The Trash | Another 66 VG $3.50

der Brucer



Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: bk on June 08, 2004, 10:00:37 AM
As always, excellent choices.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Jrand74 on June 08, 2004, 10:05:29 AM
Thanks DB....well, my investment has increased by 350%, not bad.  I would encourage any lover of "bad" country music to purchase it!

"Motherhood" I like...."Ribbons Down My Back" is a time waster and show stopper (not in the good sense) - hate it, but I suppose to get some bitch to play the part, they had to give her a solo.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Jrand74 on June 08, 2004, 10:07:34 AM
Here is your Allison Hayes Picture of the Day!  ;D

I think Bed, Bath & Beyond should use this pose in its ads.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Joey on June 08, 2004, 10:14:06 AM
Re: The Puppets in Avenue Q question posted yeterday. It wouldn't let me quote :-\

As already mentioned, it is a lot like Sesame Street for older audiences. The things the puppets talk about are very risquee to many people. People love puppets though. (Well unless they have pupaphobia) If it were just human actors talking about these things, people wouldn't be nearly as receptive to these controversial themes. Imagine an all human cast singing "Everyone's a Little Bit Racist".  We wouldn't have the whole monster conceit to start out the song. I think that is the perfect way to start that particular song because it offers a fictional type of racism to ease the audience into discussing racism. The puppets are what make it easy for the audience to handle all these issues which they would probably be uncomfortable dealing with if it was coming strictly from human actors. The actors being visible is actually feedback they got from the audience when they did the workshops I believe. They weren't planning on them being visible, but because everything was so minimal at first, they didn't have anything to hide the puppeteers behind. The puppeteers felt wierd standing in plain view with no expression or anything in front of an audience (because they were actors too) so they made their facial expressions to reflect the emotions of the puppets. The puppets range of emotion is limited so the puppeteers/actors face filled in for what the puppets couldn't do. The feedback from the audience was that they loved being able to see the puppeteers/actors and told them they should keep it that way so they scrapped the plans to hide the puppeteers/actors.  I hope that helps and if I got something wrong please let me know.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Panni on June 08, 2004, 10:20:59 AM
To add to the Teddy Bears Picnic lore... Dear Daughter is one of the tykes on a Lamb Chops Play-Along Video  - "Get Your Teddy Ready" (it's in all your collections, I'm sure) in which I believe she takes part in the Teddy Bears Picnic production number.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: William E. Lurie on June 08, 2004, 10:26:27 AM
Jason - Thanks for the info on WAS.  I think I'll read it.  And no it wasn't AVENUE X.  It was called ALONG THE WAY and was written by most of the cast.  The two numbers done were (1) a song on the subways that perfectly showed how horrible the NY subways can be and (2) a song sung and written by Kristin Anderson-Lopez, wife of the the AVENUE Q songwritter, about working temp jobs while trying to audition (I thought of you).  Both were good, but as I said before I don't know if they can keep it interesting enough for a full evening.

BK - The Amanda Green show (written with Tom Kitt) is a musical version of the film "High Fidelity".  It may or may not be the one you saw.  Another song was called "I'm Tired So I May As Well Sleep With You."  It all reminded me of the score to LET MY PEOPLE COME without the nudity.  It's a shame Ms. Green inherited her father's looks and not his talent.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Jason on June 08, 2004, 10:26:35 AM
"Get Your Teddy Ready" sounds like a 50's sleepover party song from GREASE! I can hear Jan and Frenchy singing it now...
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: DERBRUCER on June 08, 2004, 10:26:36 AM
One of my distant relatives wrote THE TEDDY BEAR PICNIC. Go figure.

If you mean the lyricist, Jimmy Kennedy, you come from good Irish stock.

(http://www.irishcultureandcustoms.com/AMusic/2Pic/JimmyKennedy.jpg) (http://www.irishcultureandcustoms.com/AMusic/2Libr/teddybearspicnic.jpg)

The Songwriters' Hall of Fame (http://www.songwritershalloffame.org/exhibit_bio.asp?exhibitId=227) bio states:

While Jimmy Kennedy was a true son of Ireland, the appeal of his music is lasting and universal and stretches far beyond the Irish Sea and the beautiful, inspiring West country. If music indeed is international, Kennedy's many memorable songs are living proof of the fact. They began their lives in Ireland, came into flower on Denmark Street, London's Tin Pan Alley, and spread out to the world. He wrote more than 2,000 songs overall and their sales in sheet music and records reached into the millions. And each of those memorable songs had a story all its own.

He watched a small yacht sailing languidly westward into the setting sun off Portstewart, Northern Ireland and wrote the immortal "Red Sails in the Sunset." In a dense fog, his car's headlights picked out an English pub sign, "Harbor Lights," and his song of that name became an instant sensation. In a British Sunday paper, he read that the English music hall star, Gracie Fields, would be holidaying in her villa in Capri, suggestion enough for him to write, "The Isle of Capri." And when his sister wrote from Southern California that "Today we've gone to Mexico, south of the border," another song came into being, "South of the Border (Down Mexico Way)."

An extraordinarily modest man, Kennedy was frequently seen as an 'unsung' hero, yet his lyrics were sung and recorded by a myriad of performing stars including, Bing Crosby, Perry Como, Ella Fitzgerald Nat King Cole, Frank Sinatra, The Platters, Elvis Presley, Tony Bennett, Louis Armstrong, Roy Orbison: Tom Jones, Glenn Miller and countless others.

One of the biggest hits in the illustrious career of The Platters, was one of Jimmy Kennedy's finest, "My Prayer," which reached number two in the American Hit Parade, when "South of the Border," which ultimately was recorded over 300 times was number one. The feat in 1939 was not accomplished again until Lennon and McCartney did so in the sixties. The "Cokey Cokey" was one of the biggest dance sensations of the war. "April in Portugal", one of the most recorded songs of the fifties and "Red Sails in the Sunset" were among his biggest earners, while "Teddy Bears' Picnic," written in 1932, was not far behind.

Kennedy had the native ability to put a little story into a succinct lyric and match it to a tune, usually composed by a co-writer. One of these colleagues, Michael Carr, relating a conversation overheard in a train to Dublin, inspired yet another song. He heard an Irishman ask a young lady if her mother was Irish, "No," came the response, "But my father was." Kennedy soon created yet another winner in the worldwide sweepstakes, "Did Your Mother Come from Ireland?" which became an enormous hit in America. It also was a major record success for Bing Crosby, who had already recorded 14 Jimmy Kennedy songs.

Born in Omagh, County Tyrone in 1902. While fame eluded Kennedy during his lifetime, an award in his name, to mark outstanding contributions to the craft and tradition of professional songwriting, was added to the British Academy of Songwriters' annual Ivor Novello awards and he was inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame in 1997.

In Portstewart, where the lyrics of "Red Sails in The Sunset" were originally penned, his genius has been recognized by the erection of a ten foot tall 'Fishing Boat' sculpture and plaque which now dominates the famous promenade. And, thanks to the enthusiasm of local admirers, the boat mentioned in the song, "Kitty of Coleraine," has been restored and put on public display in the town.

Jimmy Kennedy died in Northern Ireland in 1984.

There is a detatiled and touching tribute at Irish Culture and Customs (http://www.irishcultureandcustoms.com/AMusic/jimmyKennedy.html)

If the relative was J. K. Bratton, the composer, oh well...

der tireless researcher Brucer


Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Jason on June 08, 2004, 10:28:38 AM
It was, indeed, J.K. Bratton. Other sources list him as J.W. Bratton. Either way, the only thing I think he's known for (that I can find) is that silly song. And so far, the only thing I'm sort of known for is POOP: THE MUSICAL...  :-\
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: DERBRUCER on June 08, 2004, 10:33:36 AM
Re: The Puppets in Avenue Q question posted yeterday. It wouldn't let me quote :-\


Joey: to quote from a previous day's thread you can highlight the text, do a CTRL-C copy, then go to the current message you are composing and click on the "Quote" icon - (Line 2, 2nd from the right) and copy the text between the bracketed "quote" boxes.

der Brucer
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: DERBRUCER on June 08, 2004, 10:38:59 AM
It was, indeed, J.K. Bratton. Other sources list him as J.W. Bratton. Either way, the only thing I think he's known for (that I can find) is that silly song. And so far, the only thing I'm sort of known for is POOP: THE MUSICAL...  :-\

Well, don't feel bad, I looked for Bratton, too, and got nowhere; maybe when POOP gets a Tony the Bratton line will become reknown.

der Brucer (wondering what the show-cards for "POOP" will look like!)

Hmmm - "Into the Woods" had a Giant foot tromping on the Marquee -  maybe for "POOP" we could have a humungous pair of bare buttocks hanging over the side.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Jay on June 08, 2004, 10:39:03 AM
My nominees for the "Worst Songs Ever" songbook:

"I Shot the Sheriff"

and

"A Hundred Bottles of Beer on the Wall"

(The latter had to have been written by the Devil himself.)
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Jason on June 08, 2004, 10:40:59 AM
www.poopthemusical.com

I highly doubt that POOP: THE MUSICAL will ever go any further than it already has. The writing team have parted ways...
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: DERBRUCER on June 08, 2004, 10:43:39 AM

"A Hundred Bottles of Beer on the Wall"

(The latter had to have been written by the Devil himself.)

Nah, just one of us Republicans  ;D

der Brucer

PS  A nightmare thought - what if there were a 100 days of Christmas!
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: MBarnum on June 08, 2004, 10:51:24 AM
ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY is one of my favorite songs!

But...two songs that make me reach for the dial changer on the radio are AMERICAN PIE and COVER OF THE ROLLING STONE...both songs simply grate on my nerves like nothing else can!
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: MBarnum on June 08, 2004, 10:54:21 AM
JMK, that is wonderful about hearing from Mr. Maltin! JRand reminded me to read your information about SHADOWLAND before I started reading the book, which I am now in the midst of. I finished WILL THERE REALLY BE A MORNING (did I get that title right?) a few weeks ago. Enjoyed it, but thought it suspicious that she died before it was published! Hmmm.

By the way (BTW in internet lingo) count me as a big fan of Sergio Mendes (and Brasil 65/66).
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: DERBRUCER on June 08, 2004, 11:01:40 AM
Another viewpoint.

From  (http://andrewsullivan.com/) Andrew Sullivan:

REAGAN AND AIDS: I have been upbraided for not mentioning Ronald Reagan's AIDS legacy in describing him as my hero. The basic argument from the gay left is that Reagan was single-handedly responsible for killing hundreds of thousands of people by negligence. This, however, borders on loopy. Reagan should indeed be faulted for not doing more to warn people of the dangers of infection early enough (Thatcher was far better). But the truth is that it was pretty obvious very early on that something dangerous was afoot as AIDS first surfaced. Just read Larry Kramer at the time. Many people most at risk were aware - mostly too late, alas - that unprotected sex had become fatal in the late 1970s and still was. You can read Randy Shilts' bracing "And The Band Played On," to see how some of the resistance to those warnings came from within the gay movement itself. In the polarized atmosphere of the beleaguered gay ghettoes of the 1980s, one also wonders what an instruction from Ronald Reagan to wear condoms would have accomplished. As for research, we didn't even know what HIV was until 1983. Nevertheless, the Reagan presidency spent some $5.7 billion on HIV in its two terms - not peanuts. The resources increased by 450 percent in 1983, 134 percent in 1984, 99 percent the next year and 148 percent the year after. Yes, the Congress was critical in this. But by 1986, Reagan had endorsed a large prevention and research effort and declared in his budget message that AIDS "remains the highest public health priority of the Department of Health and Human Services." In September 1985, Reagan said:

"ncluding what we have in the budget for '86, it will amount to over a half a billion dollars that we have provided for research on AIDS in addition to what I'm sure other medical groups are doing. And we have $100 million in the budget this year; it'll be 126 million next year. So, this is a top priority with us. Yes, there's no question about the seriousness of this and the need to find an answer."

But the sad truth is also that there was never going to be an easy answer to HIV in the Reagan years. Throwing even more money at research in those days would not have helped much. Anthony Fauci's NIH, goaded by heroes like Larry Kramer, was already pushing for focus and resources; FDA red tape was loosened considerably; and the painfully slow scientific process continued. The fact that we got revolutionary drugs in trials by the early 1990s was itself an heroic scientific achievement - arguably the most miraculous progress in a medical emergency since the polio vaccine. Should Reagan have done more? Yes. Were people like Bill Bennett and Gary Bauer responsible for delaying a real prevention response because only gays were dying? You bet. But was Reagan ultimately responsible for so many tragic, early deaths? No. HIV was. Viruses happen. It's a blemish on his record, but not as profound as some, with understandable grief, want to make it out to be.

And from a gay lawyer friend in California:

"One of the Gay Left's most unfair canards against Reagan is that he did not mention the word "AIDS" during his first six years as President.

    The first AIDS cases were only diagnosed in 1981 (RWR's first year in office).  These cases were not recognized as belonging to a mutually related group, or "syndrom" for several years; the CDC only recognized AIDS by name and established reporting criteria in 1984 (revised '85).  In other words, there was no such recognized thing as AIDS for Reagan to mention for the first 3 of those 6 years!  Might as well fault Lincoln for not mentioning space exploration.

    While AIDS loomed large in the consciousness of the Gay community (some of whom were defensively insisting it was not a "Gay disease" while most of the rest were in total denial), by the end of '85 there had been only 7500 cases nationwide - even as counted under the revised, broader criteria adopted in that year - out of a U.S. population of 230 million.  AIDS simply was under the radar as far as the general population was concerned, except for Jerry Falwell and that ilk.  (Legionnaire's Disease, by contrast, affected dozens of people in a single week in a single place, and made headlines.  Reagan never mentioned that, either, although Congress rushed to the reporters.  Nobody seems to be upset with him over that.  Some even praised his restraint!)  

    Presidents rarely talk about any disease.  Name one that Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Nixon, or Carter ever discussed (except for the ritual annual support of the polio drive under the first two, or when hailing some major advance made by an American).  Why should Reagan have mentioned one, especially one which in its worst year to date had affected only 16 Americans per 100,000, and cumulatively only 3 out of 10,000?  Might he not be excused for thinking he had more pressing things to deal with, like Tip O'Neill (who hadn't mentioned AIDS, either) and the Soviet Union?  Or even diseases which affected many more people than did AIDS (he didn't discuss them either)?

    Nevertheless, in 1985, one of his and Nancy's best friends died of AIDS.  He was shaken, and he turned his attention to research by redirecting funding in the 1986 CDC budget.  Like previous Presidents, he didn't discuss the disease until he had something good to say (also, probably, because redirecting research funds from things that affected more people would have raised a ruckus if noticed).  In 1987, he first talked about AIDS when AZT was developed.  

    Thus the unfairness of the charge that he didn't mention AIDS for his first six years:
        First three years - AIDS not recognized
        Next two - AIDS still minor, affecting very few Americans
        Last one - funding research and waiting for something positive.

    In hindsight people ask, "How could he not have voiced concern over this epidemic?"  The answer is that it wasn't an epidemic in those six years.  Maybe it was epidemic in the Gay community by 1986, but to discuss it in those terms would have been to label it a Gay disease, which was precisely what we didn't want.  When he hailed AZT in 1987, AIDS was still not an epidemic, but he had the perfect opportunity to talk about it without calling it a Gay plague.  From that point until now AIDS research funding has been a formal part of the federal budget."

der Brucer


Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Panni on June 08, 2004, 11:08:25 AM
MacArthur Park, no question, wins hands down in my book. I either have to leave the room or change the station when that song appears.

Meant to comment on this when I first saw it. I'm a huge fan of this song, so I must respectfully disagree, DR Ben. In fact, I think it's a minor (here comes a misused word - but I mean it) masterpiece. That's what makes a horserace, I guess.
I've been listening again to Richard Harris' version and especially love that.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: bk on June 08, 2004, 11:20:31 AM
Richard Harris' version is the ONLY version as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Jay on June 08, 2004, 11:21:43 AM
Richard Harris' version is the ONLY version as far as I'm concerned.

This Donna Summer fan respectfully disagrees.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: DERBRUCER on June 08, 2004, 11:22:10 AM
It does bring tears to one's eyes!

(http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL242/891350/4436247/56025028.jpg)

(http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL242/891350/4436247/56025015.jpg)

der Brucer
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Ben on June 08, 2004, 11:24:52 AM
OMG (Oh, my G*d in internet lingo) I had no idea there were that many fans on MacArthur Park. What am I missing when I hear this song???
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Ben on June 08, 2004, 11:25:32 AM
I think Mr. L and Ms. C have put us into Cinerama
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Jennifer on June 08, 2004, 11:26:07 AM
Am I the only one who thought that Carol Channing / LL Cool J bit was funny?  It wasn't the best thing I've ever seen.  But it was amusing.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Stuart on June 08, 2004, 11:26:50 AM
This Donna Summer fan respectfully disagrees.

As does his brother.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Charles Pogue on June 08, 2004, 11:32:17 AM
Noel & Joey, thanks for the Avenue Q explanation.  Now that I understand the conceit, I get it.  My first experience with the show was that song on the Tonys, so taken out of context...it was just a bit curious.  I figured there had to be a logically explanation.  And there is, as you've explained.

BK, disagree about MASTER & COMMANDER, I love the way they created a whole world for me that I did not know within about the first ten minutes of that film.  I also enjoyed the performances of Crowe and Bettany (if you've never seen Gangster #1, Bettany gives a harrowing performance in it).  I very much enjoyed the film.  And how nice to have a film with just two action scenes and character scenes in between, instead of mindless wall-to-wall action and no character.

Worst song ever:  ALLEY CAT.  Followed by IT'S A SMALL WORLD AFTER ALL, PEPE, and, thanks for reminding me, Tomovoz, SEASONS IN THE SUN.  

And, George, I agree, I've never cottoned to YESTERDAY by the Beatles.  Just don't like it.  Got no problem with MICHELLE, however.

I hate most Jerry Herman anthem songs...DOLLY, MAME, I AM WHAT I AM, DEAR WORLD...

I hate THOSE WERE THE DAYS, MY FRIEND and I've always disliked THE ANNIVERSARY WALTZ & Irving Berlin's ALWAYS.

Ben, mentioned MACARTHUR PARK.  It certainly gets the prize for one of the stupidest lyrics ever:  I left the cake out in the rain and I'll never have that recipe again?...Merely one example.  Richard Harris' self-indulgent performance never helped the song.

I'm a big fan of The Teddy Bear's Picnic and have many recordings of it.

Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: William E. Lurie on June 08, 2004, 11:36:44 AM
For those who mark their calendars:

OBC of CAROLINE OR CHANGE will be released June 29

OBC of ASSASSINS revisal will be released July 27
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: George on June 08, 2004, 11:37:08 AM
To add to the Teddy Bears Picnic lore... Dear Daughter is one of the tykes on a Lamb Chops Play-Along Video  - "Get Your Teddy Ready" (it's in all your collections, I'm sure) in which I believe she takes part in the Teddy Bears Picnic production number.

Panni, the library where I work has two copies.  One has circulated 83 times and the other 137 times!  Your daughter is famous in the Pacific Northwest!
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Jed on June 08, 2004, 11:38:30 AM
...and the plastic lawn flamingo I keep in my room.

A perfect pairing with the lovely tea service you showed us the other day!  Have you considered interior design, Sandra?
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: bk on June 08, 2004, 11:44:28 AM
I don't need to mark my calendar as neither is a purchase for me.

Master and Commander: That's what makes horse racing.  I didn't feel I got to know anyone in the film.  I do like Peter Weir, though, especially Witness.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: TCB on June 08, 2004, 11:46:56 AM


Re:  worst song.  I guess I must be dating myself (no mean feat), but I cannot believe people are naming "Michelle" and "The Shadow of Your Smile."  .


Don't feel bad, JMK, I have been going steady with myself for four years.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Ron Pulliam on June 08, 2004, 11:48:05 AM
I thought Channing looked terrible.

She barely seemed able to support the weight of the dress (her "Jazz Baby" dress, no less); her legs looked very frail and skinny, and I thought the wig looked awful.

That she was funny, to me, made it sadder.

Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: DERBRUCER on June 08, 2004, 11:53:36 AM
I think Mr. L and Ms. C have put us into Cinerama

I have put Ms. C on top of Mr. C - which image does boggle the mind.

der Brucer
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Jrand74 on June 08, 2004, 11:59:58 AM
Sadly, I am sure she thought she was DRRLP.

M/C - from the previews etc, I thought this would be a LOT more exciting than it was.  Full of battles and strategy, etc....but as BK said, lots of talk and life on the ship.

OMG Alley Cat....please...please....I will not repeat my experience!
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: DERBRUCER on June 08, 2004, 12:00:21 PM
Dear Daughter is one of the tykes on ... - "Get Your Teddy Ready"


Daughter doing commercials for "Victoria Secrets" new Junior Line?
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Jed on June 08, 2004, 12:03:45 PM
Don't feel bad, JMK, I have been going steady with myself for four years.

Like father, like son!
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: DERBRUCER on June 08, 2004, 12:04:04 PM
I thought Channing looked terrible.

She barely seemed able to support the weight of the dress (her "Jazz Baby" dress, no less); her legs looked very frail and skinny, and I thought the wig looked awful.

That she was funny, to me, made it sadder.



I saw her in one of her rare appearances in "Hello Dolly" in LA some 20 odd years ago - and she looked the same then!

der Brucer (Like Orsons fine aged wine, Channing shows no leg before it's time)
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: MBarnum on June 08, 2004, 12:09:12 PM
Our Governor still has not decided whether Oregon state workers, like Federal workers, will have this Friday off as an official day of mourning.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Jrand74 on June 08, 2004, 12:23:34 PM
I thought Friday was your short day anyway!

No mail on Friday??  
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: TCB on June 08, 2004, 12:23:52 PM
This Donna Summer fan respectfully disagrees.


I love both versions of the song....... Sorry, Ben.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on June 08, 2004, 12:31:17 PM
While I've never been able to take any version of that song seriously.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Stuart on June 08, 2004, 12:37:08 PM
I saw her in one of her rare appearances in "Hello Dolly" in LA some 20 odd years ago

As rare as a mosquito in the summer.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: MBarnum on June 08, 2004, 12:41:07 PM
I thought Friday was your short day anyway!



It is, but I am greedy! LOL!
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: bk on June 08, 2004, 12:42:53 PM
My package from Candy you Ate as a Kid arrived.  I got me some wax lips, baby.  I got me some wax liquid bottles.  I got me some Cherry Mash and Cherry Mountain.  I got me some Chocolate Babies. I got me some Cherry Buds.  I got me some coconut stacks.  I got me some red licorice rolls.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Jed on June 08, 2004, 12:44:58 PM
You got you a dentist's dream!
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Jrand74 on June 08, 2004, 12:47:31 PM
Wax Liquid Bottles!!!!!

MBARNUM = MR GreedyGuts....living off the Oregon Tax Payers!!!  LOL

Today's column is listed in my Windows tray as:  "THE ELUSIVE BUTT...."
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Stuart on June 08, 2004, 12:47:40 PM
Our Governor still has not decided whether Oregon state workers, like Federal workers, will have this Friday off as an official day of mourning.

Apparently the state of NY has also granted state employees the day, in recognition of the national day of mourning.  (I just got a cockamamie "campus broadcast message" indicating that all non-essential employees are able to take the day without consequence.  Followed by a load of parameters as to what essential employees are entitled to in recompense if they have to work that day.  You can't imagine the lovely feeling that being deemed "non-essential" imparts.  I also have to say that even though I work for the State University of New York, I often forget that I am a state employee.)

So anyway, you know what they say, DR Barnum:  As NY goes, so goes the nation.  (Isn't that what they say?)
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: JoseSPiano on June 08, 2004, 12:58:18 PM
Good Afternoon!

Well, I slept in until 3:00pm.... :o ??? :-\  -At least I'm caught up on my sleep.  *I'm also just remembering that my system usually goes into this weird "transition" period after a long run, so...

I meant to answer DR Pogue's AVENUE Q query yesterday, but due to my computer issues and my sleep issues I never got to it, so...  As other DRs have already stated it's like Sesame Street for adults.  There's even a nod to Bert and Ernie, but with the whole homosexual overtone right up front.  There are also "video transitions" shown on two tv screens on the side of the stage reminscent of some of the animated sequences from Sesame Street and The Electric Company that demonstrate other concepts.  My favorite one is the variation on the "putting the word together" routine:

"ch-" "-op" - "chop"
"s-" "-oft" - "soft"

POSSIBLE SPOILER AHEAD

Instead they use:

"co-" "mmitment"  "commitment"
*It would take me a couple of paragraphs to truly describe this sequence, so I hope you'll get to see it in person.

-Who knew words could be so funny?  ;D

END OF POSSIBLE SPOILER

And I did find it fascinating watching all the "mechanics" of the puppets with the puppeteers standing right behind them.  Additionally, most of the puppeteers handle and voice more than one of the characters, and there are some moments where all of them are on stage, and watching them - and their mouths - juggle all those various voices is amazing.  And there are three actors on stage who do not handle puppets.  And they are also the ones who are not wearing black or dark gray "costumes".

*If you can find any of the various articles on Jon Tartaglia that have been appearing on various theatre sites, it would be worth the read.  His love and passion for the art is inspiring - and he truly is living his dream.  -And his father is one helluva a piano player too!

Topic of the Day:

The first thing that comes to mind - well, thingS - are any song by "O-Town" - remember "Making of the Band"??!?!?  -Whatever happened to them anyway?  :P  They had such classics "hits" like "Girl", "Sexiest Woman Alive", "Love Should Be a Crime", "Shy Girl", and "Baby I Would".  -Yes, I have their debut CD, but it was given to me as a gag gift.

"Ribbons Down My Back" - As I mentioned before, this song drives me crazy at auditions - especially when a singer/actress comes in singing it like it was in the movie.  AAGGHHHH!!!

Many other non-favorites have already been mentioned...

OK- I'm off to the post office before it closes...  *And I'm not looking forward to having no mail service on Friday.

*And as a friend of mine pointed out to me in an e-mail this morning... It's sort of a strange coincidence that the D.C. Gay Pride Festival takes place at the same time that Reagan's casket will be on view at the Capitol.

Laters...
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: S. Woody White on June 08, 2004, 01:04:27 PM
Dear BK: My problem with reading fiction these days is that I rarely get the chance to read it, or at least the chance to read and enjoy it.  I'm in the habit of reading while traveling, which used to mean while traveling to and from work.  

That's no longer the case, as most of my traveling is with der Brucer when we drive down to DC or up to NYC or wherever.  The problem is, when der Brucer is driving, he likes to talk.  I don't mind this, as he's an interesting conversationalist, even after eightteen years together.  But his wanting to talk does get in the way when I pick up a book and get through a paragraph, maybe two, and he finds a new topic to start on.

And, no, reading to him doesn't always work.  For one thing, after a point my voice gets tired.  For another, I can never tell when he's going to interrupt, because what I've been reading to him will have sparked a new topic for discussion for him.  This makes for getting through a book slowly.

Reading at home?  I'm more likely to do that late at night, when I'm in bed.  I've found non-fiction is better reading material at these times, because I never can tell when I'll drop off to sleep, which is usually within a page or two.  (At least I'm now in the habit of taking off my glasses before nodding off.  I used to take them off after the nod point, and have had trouble finding them again in the morning.)

All of which is a long way of saying, be patient.  It may take me a while to get through KT, no fault of your own.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: S. Woody White on June 08, 2004, 01:08:20 PM
[Since seeing/hearing CAROLINE, OR CHANGE, I've been hooked again on hearing Ms. Tesori's VIOLET. Such a great score. I want to be in that show someday...but not as Violet, of course.
Not in your vocal range?

 ;D
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: MBarnum on June 08, 2004, 01:08:32 PM
Rex Reason is on tonights 77SUNSET STRIP and Kathleen Crowley is on Surfside 6!

DR JRand53 I have another tape full for you!
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Matt H. on June 08, 2004, 01:11:32 PM
No, I didn't find the LL Cool J/Carol Channing exchange funny or endearing. I felt embarrassed, that she was trying to be fun and hip and instead was being a fool and not aware of it. That's just my perception. If others were entertained, so be it.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Matt H. on June 08, 2004, 01:15:50 PM
I spent this afternoon watching the TARZAN documentary and TARZAN'S SECRET TREASURE. As others commented, the documentary deals mainly with the MGM Tarzan pictures after covering the genesis of the character and his silent and other early screen adaptations. Since Warners also owns the RKO TARZAN features that Weismuller and others made, I'm expecting another boxed set of these at a later date, particularly if this boxed set sells well.

SECRET TREASURE looks nice, but there's been no restoration, of course. There are flaws in the print used, but the mastering for DVD still makes it look nice, However, the sharpness of the picture does make the frequent rear projection and painted backdrops even more obvious now. Still, a cracking adventure tale. I'm sure I'll enjoy the others in the set as I eventually watch them.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: S. Woody White on June 08, 2004, 01:20:13 PM
The song I like the very least is "Meadowlark," from The Baker's Wife.  I do not like it when Patti LuPone sings it.  I do not like it when Betty Buckley sings it.  I do not like it when Susan Egan sings it, and I'm partial to Susan Egan.  I do not like it, period.

Bleh.

(Buster has just drunk half my glass of ginger ale.  Silly dog.)
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: George on June 08, 2004, 01:24:42 PM
Am I the only one who thought that Carol Channing / LL Cool J bit was funny?  It wasn't the best thing I've ever seen.  But it was amusing.

I liked it.  ;D
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: MBarnum on June 08, 2004, 01:26:50 PM
Thanks for the comments on the Tarzan DVDs. I know that I have seen all of the Weismuller Tarzan films but SECRET TREASURE just doesn't ring a bell with me...of course it has been at least 25 years since I have seen most of these films.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: S. Woody White on June 08, 2004, 01:33:01 PM
One of the most damnably addictive -- and maddening -- songs to ever enter my head is "Teddy Bears Picnic."

...If you go down in the woods today,
You'd better not go alone.
It's lovely down in the woods today,
But safer to stay at home.

For every bear that ever there was
Will gather there for certain because
Today's the day the Teddy Bears have their picnic....

And if the melody eludes you, turn on your speakers and visit this URL:

http://www.northern-pine.com/songs/tbpicnic.html
Which, as it happens, is the significant song quoted at the start of Armistead Maupin's Significant Others.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Jason on June 08, 2004, 01:37:01 PM
Someone left the cake out in the rain
I don't think that I can take it
'Cause it took so long to bake it
And I'll never have that recipe again
Oh, no!

................................................. ............

Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: MBarnum on June 08, 2004, 01:42:13 PM
Someone left the cake out in the rain
I don't think that I can take it
'Cause it took so long to bake it
And I'll never have that recipe again
Oh, no!

................................................. ............



You know what, I love that song! But I have never found out the name or singer of it!
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: JMK on June 08, 2004, 01:44:52 PM
Well for MBarnum and Tomofoz and any other latent Sergio Mendes fans, here he is with moi:

Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Jason on June 08, 2004, 01:46:19 PM
DR MBarnum: That is "MacArthur Park" and the artists are Donna Summer or Richard Harris.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: JMK on June 08, 2004, 01:46:46 PM
Help me, I'm MELLLLLTTTTTTIIIIIINNNNGGGG.  LOL.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: JMK on June 08, 2004, 01:49:26 PM
First it was in Todd-AO, then it was something from a Bert I. Gordon film, let's try it again, shall we?

Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Matt H. on June 08, 2004, 01:50:15 PM
My glasses are pretty powerful, but even *I* can't make that picture out.


Ah, ha. Much better. Now it's easily seen and just the right size.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: William E. Lurie on June 08, 2004, 01:52:08 PM
M Barnum - What channel shows 77 SUNSET STRIP and SURFSIDE 6?

Regarding Carol Channing - When she first did Dolly in the 60s she was wonderful.  When she last did Dolly she was like a bad drag queen doing a Channing imitation.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: MBarnum on June 08, 2004, 01:54:44 PM
M Barnum - What channel shows 77 SUNSET STRIP and SURFSIDE 6?


Goodlife Network, which seems to only be available from select cable companies. Hawaiian Eye, Cheyenne, Bronco, Sugarfoot, The FBI, Combat, The Gallant Men, and Maverick are all shown weekly as well!
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Charles Pogue on June 08, 2004, 01:55:57 PM
Jason, thanks for printing one of the absolutely stupidest lyrics ever written.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Jason on June 08, 2004, 01:57:45 PM
I did it all for you, DR Charles Pogue. I did it all for you...
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on June 08, 2004, 01:58:08 PM
Someone left the cake out in the rain
I don't think that I can take it
'Cause it took so long to bake it
And I'll never have that recipe again
Oh, no!

................................................. ............




Just add a can of tomato soup to the usual batter. Now stop moaning already.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Jason on June 08, 2004, 02:00:30 PM
The most complicated cake I've ever baked took only 40 minutes in a 350-degree oven, and even then, I could have remembered the friggin' recipe--1 box of Duncan Hines, 2 eggs, some water and some oil and voila! Another cake!
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: JMK on June 08, 2004, 02:05:26 PM
My wife's brother used to live near MacArthur Park and as we were driving by it one day, I yelled out, "Look someone left the cake out in the rain!"  My wife's brother, who is kind of a literalist, jerked his head around and said, "Where?"  I was giggling for days.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Jay on June 08, 2004, 02:11:33 PM
The most complicated cake I've ever baked took only 40 minutes in a 350-degree oven, and even then, I could have remembered the friggin' recipe--1 box of Duncan Hines, 2 eggs, some water and some oil and voila! Another cake!

What about the sweet green icing flowing down, though?
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: bk on June 08, 2004, 02:12:32 PM
Okay, today's challenge: Just got off the phone with our very own Harvey Schmidt - we needs a copy of the ORIGINAL sheet music to Red Sails in the Sunset - apparently the images is a setting sun of some sort.  Sparkling prize to he/she who locates it in a timely fashion (red toreodor pants and a blouse with fringe).
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Robin on June 08, 2004, 02:14:24 PM
As to the topic of the day:

The single worst song ever recorded is "Everybody was Kung-Fu Fighting".  I don't know who sang it.  Which is probably a good thing.  For the jerk who did.  

Another number on the shit parade..."Johnny Get Angry".  Again, I dunno the so-called "artist" behind it.  Sexist, mysogynistic crap.  

There was also an instrumental song called "Popcorn" by (I believe) a group called Hot Butter that made me cringe.  And any of those disco-ized versions of "Star Wars" and "Superman" by Meco (remember that loser?) made me wanna throw bricks.   And that "Music Box Dancer" atrocity makes my blood pressure rise dangerously, too.  
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: JoseSPiano on June 08, 2004, 02:17:02 PM
Okay, today's challenge: Just got off the phone with our very own Harvey Schmidt - we needs a copy of the ORIGINAL sheet music to Red Sails in the Sunset - apparently the images is a setting sun of some sort.  Sparkling prize to he/she who locates it in a timely fashion (red toreodor pants and a blouse with fringe).

So, does he need the actual original piece of sheet music?  Or just the original image - in a very clear format?  Methinks I have a bound collection of songs that feature the original cover art, so...  And since I'm to venture into my bedroom and sort through some stuff....  Hmm.. I'll keep my eyes open for it.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Charles Pogue on June 08, 2004, 02:19:18 PM
Jay,  Thanks for providing another stunning example of why MacArthur Park has one of the absolutely stupidest lyrics ever written for a song.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Jrand74 on June 08, 2004, 02:19:56 PM
Send me that tape right now, MBARNUM!! I need me some Surfside 6!

Well a few days ago DRJAY gave us a preview of "It's Delovely", and I am still excited to see it....with a big elusive butt!!  In the June, 2004, Movieline Hollywood Life, there is an article on said fillum.  There are some nice photos of Cole and Linda Porter and a few photos from the fillum.  Lots of info about the clothes....and then....the horrifying news of all to me:

"...it was up to music supervisor Steven Endelman to make them [the Porter songs out of chronological order] work musically...."  Porter songs have to be "made" to work "musically'?

Endelman says:  "....[he] is not a Cole Porter zealot...I wasn't somebody who was going to say 'Oh my God, we can't do that because it's going to be sacreligious to the written note of Cole Porter."

"Thus Endelman rearranged [!]...the usual rumba-like rhythm of 'Begin the Beguine' into a much slower, melancholy lament that punctuates a tragic moment in the film for Cole and Linda."

"The filmmakers went after a variety of recording artists to perform Porter's songs in the film, looking to attract as wide a demographic as possible."

De-lovely, indeed!
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: TCB on June 08, 2004, 02:21:17 PM
WORST SONG EVER!

(If it even qualifies as a song!)
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Remember when you ran away and I got on my knees and begged you not to
leave because I'd go berserk?? Well...
You left me anyhow and then the days got worse and worse and now you see
I've gone completely out of my mind.. And..
They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!
They're coming to take me away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-haaa
To the funny farm. Where life is beautiful all the time and I'll be
happy to see those nice young men in their clean white coats and they're
coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!!!!

You thought it was a joke and so you laughed, you laughed when I had said
that loosing you would make me flip my lid.. RIGHT???
I know you laughed, I heard you laugh, you laughed you laughed and
laughed and then you left, but now you know I'm utterly mad... And..


They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa,
They're coming to take me away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-haaa.
To the happy home. With trees and flowers and chirping birds and basket
weavers who sit and smile and twiddle their thumbs and toes and they're
coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!!

Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Ron Pulliam on June 08, 2004, 02:24:18 PM
Spring was never waiting for us, girl
It ran one step ahead
As we followed in the dance
Between the parted pages and were pressed
In love's hot, fevered iron
Like a striped pair of pants

MacArthur Park is melting in the dark
All the sweet, green icing flowing down
Someone left the cake out in the rain
I don't think that I can take it
'Cause it took so long to bake it
And I'll never have that recipe again
Oh, no!

I recall the yellow cotton dress
Foaming like a wave
On the ground around your knees
The birds, like tender babies in your hands
And the old men playing checkers by the trees

MacArthur Park is melting in the dark
All the sweet, green icing flowing down
Someone left the cake out in the rain
I don't think that I can take it
'Cause it took so long to bake it
And I'll never have that recipe again
Oh, no!

[break]

There will be another song for me
For I will sing it
There will be another dream for me
Someone will bring it
I will drink the wine while it is warm
And never let you catch me looking at the sun
And after all the loves of my life
After all the loves of my life
You'll still be the one

I will take my life into my hands and I will use it
I will win the worship in their eyes and I will lose it
I will have the things that I desire
And my passion flow like rivers through the sky
And after all the loves of my life
After all the loves of my life
I'll be thinking of you
And wondering why

[break]

MacArthur Park is melting in the dark
All the sweet, green icing flowing down
Someone left the cake out in the rain
I don't think that I can take it
'Cause it took so long to bake it
And I'll never have that recipe again
Oh, no!
Oh, no
No, no
Oh no!!

Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on June 08, 2004, 02:26:59 PM
Okay, today's challenge: Just got off the phone with our very own Harvey Schmidt - we needs a copy of the ORIGINAL sheet music to Red Sails in the Sunset - apparently the images is a setting sun of some sort.  Sparkling prize to he/she who locates it in a timely fashion (red toreodor pants and a blouse with fringe).

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=157&item=3728794942&rd=1#ebayphotohosting


If this doesn't help, keep trying eBay. It's sure to show up.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Jrand74 on June 08, 2004, 02:27:51 PM
This one can be found here.   ;D  But it doesn't seem like the one you are describing.

http://www.cyberattic.com/stores/sherrysantiques/items/220421/item220421cyberattic.html (http://www.cyberattic.com/stores/sherrysantiques/items/220421/item220421cyberattic.html)
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Jrand74 on June 08, 2004, 02:28:49 PM
Ah...Dan - I think yours is the one!  Looks more like it than mine!
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: TCB on June 08, 2004, 02:29:23 PM
Apparently the state of NY has also granted state employees the day, in recognition of the national day of mourning.  (I just got a cockamamie "campus broadcast message" indicating that all non-essential employees are able to take the day without consequence.  Followed by a load of parameters as to what essential employees are entitled to in recompense if they have to work that day.  You can't imagine the lovely feeling that being deemed "non-essential" imparts.  I also have to say that even though I work for the State University of New York, I often forget that I am a state employee.)

So anyway, you know what they say, DR Barnum:  As NY goes, so goes the nation.  (Isn't that what they say?)


Possibly the nation, but not the State of Washington.  Our Governor has announced that he does not have the authority to close state offices on Friday.  That decsion, per the Governor, can only be made by the Legislature, but since they don't start their session until January, it is doubtful that we will be closing this Friday.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Tomovoz on June 08, 2004, 02:32:35 PM
DR TCB:
And there is an answer song by Josephine!
On some copies of the singleof "They're Coming To Take Me Away" it is sung backwards.

DR Panni: It has not been the Australian National Anthem for a few decades.  It is a German tune anyway. The New OZ Anthem is dreadful = "Our home is girt by sea" (Advance Australia Fair).

DR Charles: Peggy Lee sang "Alley Cat" and that lady had talent, amd taste.

DR JMK: Thank you for Sergio Medes photo.

DR LAura. Great Photo. Colin will love it.

So many posts. Whilst I have been asleep you have indeed being having joy having fun in your seasons in the sun.

Could not understand why anyone liked "Ribbons Down My Back". Herman seemed so proud of it.

"Yesterday".  Oh to have those royalties. Beautiful melody and the lyrics are fine by me - it was originally titled "Scrambled Eggs".
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Ron Pulliam on June 08, 2004, 02:35:19 PM
Until that awesome Tony Awards telecast in which I witnessed Jennifer Holliday performing the greatest ode to masochism I'd ever heard -- "And I'm Telling You I'm Not Going" -- I had previously felt Lorraine Ellison held the title with her overwhelming "Stay With Me."

Stay with me Lyrics

(Pagovoy/Weiss)

Where did you go
When things went wrong, baby,
And who did you run to,
To find a shoulder
To lay your head upon.
Baby, wasn't I there,
Didn't I take good care of you.

Oh no, I can't believe you leaving me...

Stay with me, baby,
Stay with me, baby...
Won't you stay with me, baby,
I can't go on...

Who did you touch
When you need tenderness.
I gave so much
And in return I found happiness.
Baby, what did I do
Maybe I was too good, too good for you.

No, no, I can't believe you leaving me.

Stay with me, baby,
Stay with me, baby.
Won't you stay with me, baby,
I can't go on.

Remember,
You said you're always gonna need me,
Remember,
You said you'd never, ever leave me,
Remember, remember, I'm asking you, begging you.

Stay with me, baby,
Stay with me, baby...
Won't you stay with me, baby,
I can't go on, can't go on...

Stay with me, baby,
Stay with me, stay with me, baby.
Won't you stay with me, baby,
I can't go on...


Who here remembers hearing Ellison sing this song, and who here heard it in a very specific context?
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: bk on June 08, 2004, 02:36:03 PM
I'd found the Fred Waring one - I'm getting it for him anyway, but it doesn't sound like what he's describing.  The eBay one is definitely not it - it's from the UK.  The Waring one is from 1935 but the song was first published in 1925, so keep looking.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Tomovoz on June 08, 2004, 02:37:20 PM
DR Robin:  Joannie Sommers "Johnny Get Angry.
                  Carl Douglas "Kung Foo Fighting"

Mysoginist songs: "Born A Woman" Sandy Posey
                            "Stand By Your Man" Tammy Wynette
                              "For The Love Of Him" Bobbi Martin
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on June 08, 2004, 02:38:28 PM
So many posts. Whilst I have been asleep you have indeed being having joy having fun in your seasons in the sun.


And whilst you were asleep, TomovOz, I had finally managed to get that furshlugginer tune out of my head. Thanks for nothing.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: MBarnum on June 08, 2004, 02:39:46 PM
Man, I really like a lot to of these songs that you guys hate! LOL! My friends are right...I do have bad taste!

How about LOVING YOU by Minnie Ripperton? When that one comes on I turn the radio up really loud and sing along! Ha!
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Jrand74 on June 08, 2004, 02:49:17 PM
LOVING YOU by Minnie Ripperton....ugh ugh ugh!  And yes I know she's dead, and no dying didn't improve her recordings.

When she lost the Grammy she hauled herself up onstage later in the evening (presenting, I guess) I did that awful caterwauling just to show us what for....
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: S. Woody White on June 08, 2004, 02:50:59 PM
What about the sweet green icing flowing down, though?
Food coloring.  And a dash of mint extract.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: TCB on June 08, 2004, 02:52:35 PM
Man, I really like a lot to of these songs that you guys hate! LOL! My friends are right...I do have bad taste!

How about LOVING YOU by Minnie Ripperton? When that one comes on I turn the radio up really loud and sing along! Ha!

MBarnum, you never cease to amaze me.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Jrand74 on June 08, 2004, 02:55:35 PM
Another RED SAILS link, but no photo!  :-\

http://www.amres.com/catalogs/SMPS.asp (http://www.amres.com/catalogs/SMPS.asp)
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: S. Woody White on June 08, 2004, 02:55:47 PM
There will be another song for me
For I will sing it
There will be another dream for me
Someone will bring it
I will drink the wine while it is warm
And never let you catch me looking at the sun
And after all the loves of my life
After all the loves of my life
You'll still be the one

I will take my life into my hands and I will use it
I will win the worship in their eyes and I will lose it
I will have the things that I desire
And my passion flow like rivers through the sky
And after all the loves of my life
After all the loves of my life
I'll be thinking of you
And wondering why
Damn, but that's a good lyric.  How'd it get in the middle of the rest of that mess?

And I'm a long-time Jimmy Webb fan.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Sandra on June 08, 2004, 02:57:17 PM
A perfect pairing with the lovely tea service you showed us the other day!  Have you considered interior design, Sandra?

Yes, I have considered it, but my mom says not to get my hopes up. But I think I have the best room. The leopard spotted wallpaper border really adds something.

I couldn't get to sleep last night until Mom and I got back from our walk at 7:30. Then I crashed on my futon and I just got up.

Curses for mentioning Kung Fu Fighting! The last time y'all were talking about that, I had it stuck in my head for three days. Luckily I am listening to Lee Lessack singing Johnny Mercer songs right now.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: MBarnum on June 08, 2004, 02:57:40 PM
MBarnum, you never cease to amaze me.

Not only that but I LOVE disco!
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Post by: Sandra on June 08, 2004, 02:58:13 PM
Oh my God! My mom put the shoes on the piano again!
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: MBarnum on June 08, 2004, 03:00:18 PM
Oh my God! My mom put the shoes on the piano again!

Isn't that bad luck?
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Post by: MBarnum on June 08, 2004, 03:01:03 PM
When  I was in high school I would constantly call the radio station to request SEND IN THE CLOWNS and MICHELE.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: S. Woody White on June 08, 2004, 03:01:12 PM
Isn't that bad luck?
Only when you're still wearing them.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: MBarnum on June 08, 2004, 03:04:23 PM
...WALK AWAY RENEE is also a favorite...but I'll be darned if I can make out any of the words. I have searched for the lyrics on-line but never had any luck.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: George on June 08, 2004, 03:16:57 PM
Oh my God! My mom put the shoes on the piano again!

Isn't that bad luck?

Only when you're still wearing them.

And you're performing in Blood Brothers. ::)  (putting them on a piano is probably as bad as putting them on a table...don't you think?)
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Panni on June 08, 2004, 03:17:57 PM
Shoes on tables - BAD LUCK. Do not do it.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Jrand74 on June 08, 2004, 03:18:26 PM
Disco!!!!   ;D  Now you're talking!!!

Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Tomovoz on June 08, 2004, 03:19:19 PM
Always prefered The Four Tops to the Left Banke MBarnum. Maybe "don't bother me at all" about the lyrics. Now I'll have to listen. Better than "Goodbye To You My Trusted Friend".
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Sandra on June 08, 2004, 03:20:25 PM
As I am typing this, my shoes are on the piano. And I am wearing them. It's quite comfortable.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: bk on June 08, 2004, 03:23:50 PM
The other sellers who were bilked by this eBay madman and I have been talking about filing a class action lawsuit against eBay for not allowing us to be refunded our listing fees immediately.  Does anyone know a good pro bono lawyer who would love to take on eBay and perhaps get scads of publicity?
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: S. Woody White on June 08, 2004, 03:24:20 PM
And you're performing in Blood Brothers. ::)  (putting them on a piano is probably as bad as putting them on a table...don't you think?)
Eeewww, Blood Brothers.  Put the entire score on our list of terrible songs.

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Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Danise on June 08, 2004, 03:29:28 PM
Evening all!

Guess what I had for dinner and I didn’t say anything to my Mother?  Beets!  Made the way I explained to you the other day.  Yum!

Well, the Tampa Bay Lightning won the hockey championship.  Whoopie!  I should also mention,  we had a illness at work and many people were not at their posts.  I can’t help but wonder why?

Guess what?!  We get Friday off WITH pay!  YAY!!!  Now THAT’s something to be happy about.  I know it’s because someone died .  It’s really not really nice of me to be glad but I’ll take the day and sleep in.

As far as songs go, anything by the Bee Gees.  God, how those voices make me want to run shrieking, “Make it stop!”  from the room.  Also The Pirates Of the Caribbean.  I was stuck on that ride, right under the pirate who had his foot dangling from the bridge.  Five thousand choruses of “Yo Ho, Yo Ho.  It’s a pirates life for me!” later I was ready to pull my hair out.  

I imagine one of Hades worst punishments is being stuck on one of those rides and forced to listen to one of those songs.  Over and over and over and over and over again.  Aggghhhh!!!

When I was growing up, when ever we got a new pair of shoes, my dad would make my mother and I put them on the stove (not turned on) for a moment to take the “fire” out of them.  I don’t know where he got that from but I sometimes find myself still doing that.

I have heard that putting shoes on a table are bad luck as well.  I think that also goes for putting them on the bed.

I didn’t get to tell you guys about my SLC trip.  Do you still want to hear about it?


Joey: to quote from a previous day's thread you can highlight the text, do a CTRL-C copy, then go to the current message you are composing and click on the "Quote" icon - (Line 2, 2nd from the right) and copy the text between the bracketed "quote" boxes.

der Brucer

Thank you for that, Derbrucer!  I have always wondered how to do that!
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: MBarnum on June 08, 2004, 03:32:35 PM
Always prefered The Four Tops to the Left Banke MBarnum. Maybe "don't bother me at all" about the lyrics. Now I'll have to listen. Better than "Goodbye To You My Trusted Friend".

I love The Left Banke...I have their CD of the "Best Of" and they had some fine songs. I didn't know The Four Tops also sang WALK AWAY RENEE...who knew!

I always get teary eyed at SEASON'S IN THE SUN. Why do so many dislike that song I wonder?

Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: MBarnum on June 08, 2004, 03:34:51 PM
Evening all!

As far as songs go, anything by the Bee Gees.  God, how those voices make me want to run shrieking, “Make it stop!”  from the room.  Also The Pirates Of the Caribbean.  I was stuck on that ride, right under the pirate who had his foot dangling from the bridge.  Five thousand choruses of “Yo Ho, Yo Ho.  It’s a pirates life for me!” later I was ready to pull my hair out.  

I imagine one of Hades worst punishments is being stuck on one of those rides and forced to listen to one of those songs.  Over and over and over and over and over again.  Aggghhhh!!!



I can recall someone once telling me that they were stuck in the IT'S A SMALL WORLD ride for several hours and had to listen to that song over and over and over again.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Tomovoz on June 08, 2004, 03:34:57 PM
DR Danise. Just Michael Ball's phone number will do.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: MBarnum on June 08, 2004, 03:37:22 PM

Guess what?!  We get Friday off WITH pay!  YAY!!!  Now THAT’s something to be happy about.  I know it’s because someone died .  It’s really not really nice of me to be glad but I’ll take the day and sleep in.


That is not fair Danise.

We are not getting Friday off the Governer has finally announced. Maybe only the states with Republican Governors are getting Friday off.

It will be Ronald Reagan memorial Day on Friday, however. That is as far as Gov. Kulongoski was willing to go I guess.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Tomovoz on June 08, 2004, 03:40:39 PM
A DR Listed "Purple People Eater" earlier. Great song from my childhood - along with Witch Doctor. Of course there was also "The Purple People Eater Meets The Witch Doctor" which was a little suspect. (Joe South and The Big Bopper had the chart versions - for those who care to know). Great novelty songs from the 1950s.  As DRs' Kerry and JRand know - I have no problem with such songs at all. My early post of "Death songs" is a list of ones from my own collection.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Danise on June 08, 2004, 03:44:44 PM
Sorry, MBarnum!  I'll think about you when I wake and turn over!  LOL!

Michael Ball's phone number?  Hummm but I promised I wouldn't tell!

I refused to ride the "It's a Small World Ride".  The thought of being stuck for hours in there (after my POTC experience)  were more than I could handle!

Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: MBarnum on June 08, 2004, 03:45:30 PM
The Bird by the Trashmen (or is it The Trashman) is a fun song too!
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Tomovoz on June 08, 2004, 03:46:39 PM
Strange how certain songs can pluck at our emotional strings - "Seasons In The Sun: does not do it for me but I get teary when I listen to Red Sovine's "Teddy Bear". I tell myself it is pure corn but that does not stop the effect.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Jed on June 08, 2004, 03:48:05 PM
Curses for mentioning Kung Fu Fighting! The last time y'all were talking about that, I had it stuck in my head for three days.

Me too, dang it!  Of course, I guess I shouldn't really complain, as I was the one who brought it up last time! :D
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: S. Woody White on June 08, 2004, 03:48:28 PM
I have their CD of the "Best Of"...
Y'know, there's been all these groups and soloists who have recorded "The Best Of...", as a title song no less, and I still can't remember what the melody sounds like.

 ::) ;D
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Tomovoz on June 08, 2004, 03:55:34 PM
It's a Jerry Herman Song.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Ron Pulliam on June 08, 2004, 04:03:17 PM
DR MBarnum:  I love Minnie Riperton AND "Loving You."

And I am nuts about "Midnight at the Oasis" (send your camel to bed).

And who here is as fanatical about "Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band" as I am????

"Chercehz la Femme" anyone?

Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Tomovoz on June 08, 2004, 04:06:05 PM
Watched Guffman again this week - - wonderful version of "Midnight At the Oasis".
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Jane on June 08, 2004, 04:49:13 PM
George, are you feeling better today?  And how about you Jennifer, any better now?

DerBrucer-ROTFLOL.  Thanks for the warning.  Of course I couldn’t resist and had to read the lyrics.  So where was my warning before I read SQUIRRELS?

DearReaderLaura, Keith and I just love the things you see on your walks.  This photo gets a big WOW!

In our first apartment the young girl next door would blast her stereo and we could easily hear it through the walls. Most of the time it wasn’t too annoying, until she fell in love with MOONSHADOW.  I am sure I heard that song a hundred times a day.

I’m only up to page three but must break to feed Bogie.  Maybe by the time I return my hiccups with be gone.  It is very difficult to type when you keep hiccupping.  
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Robin on June 08, 2004, 04:59:09 PM
Oooohhh...here's another one for the Hall of Shame!

"Shannon" by Henry Gross.  And a more appropriate surname I couldn't've have made up.

Shannon is gone, I heard
she's drifting out to sea,
she always loved to swim and swim...
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: George on June 08, 2004, 05:06:05 PM
Strange how certain songs can pluck at our emotional strings - "Seasons In The Sun" does not do it for me but I get teary when I listen to Red Sovine's "Teddy Bear". I tell myself it is pure corn but that does not stop the effect.

When I was much younger, we used to sing (to the tune of "Seasons In The Sun"):

We had joy, we had fun
Skinny-dipping in the sun
But the cops, they had guns
And they shot us in the buns!


 ;D
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: George on June 08, 2004, 05:12:48 PM
George, are you feeling better today?
Much, much better.  Thanks Jane.

And who here is as fanatical about "Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band" as I am????
I used to have one of their albums (I don't remember which), but I sold a bunch of my records when I was in college and that was one of them.  I just remember that there was one or two songs that I really liked, but I don't even remember what songs they were.  The album title had "King Pedditt" in it...or something like that.  Anyone know what the hell I'm talking about?
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Post by: George on June 08, 2004, 05:13:18 PM
And one for Mahler!
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Post by: Panni on June 08, 2004, 05:22:27 PM
Just posting to say hello. I actually wrote a long "story" but decide it was lame - on crutches, man - so I have nothing other thatn "hello" to say. Hello.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Panni on June 08, 2004, 05:25:19 PM
....AND
 
                                 PAGE SEVEN!

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Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: DERBRUCER on June 08, 2004, 05:27:17 PM
I'd found the Fred Waring one - I'm getting it for him anyway, but it doesn't sound like what he's describing.  The eBay one is definitely not it - it's from the UK.  The Waring one is from 1935 but the song was first published in 1925, so keep looking.

Are you sure it wasn't first published in the UK? It is an Irish song, he songwriter (Jimmy Kennedy - TB's Pinic, above) was Irish and the song was Irish inspired:

"Just about everyone is familiar with Jimmy Kennedy's lyrics, but very few people have ever heard of him and even fewer know that Red Sails in the Sunset was inspired by a beautiful summer evening in Portstewart, which is located on Northern Ireland's famous Causeway Coast. "
...

"And, recently, the little boat that inspired Red Sails in the Sunset was discovered rotting away in Belfast. "Kitty of Coleraine" was restored and Kennedy was honored with a celebration in Portstewart."

der busy-researcher Brucer

Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: DERBRUCER on June 08, 2004, 05:37:30 PM

DerBrucer-ROTFLOL.  Thanks for the warning.  Of course I couldn’t resist and had to read the lyrics.  So where was my warning before I read SQUIRRELS?

To make amends, here is a song where the animals win!

Cows With Guns
Fat and docile, big and dumb
They look so stupid, they aren't much fun
Cows aren't fun

They eat to grow, grow to die
Die to be eat at the hamburger fry
Cows well done

Nobody thunk it, nobody knew
No one imagined the great cow guru
Cows are one

He hid in the forest, read books with great zeal
He loved Che Guevera, a revolutionary veal
Cow Tse Tongue

He spoke about justice, but nobody stirred
He felt like an outcast, alone in the herd
Cow doldrums

He mooed we must fight, escape or we'll die
Cows gathered around, cause the steaks were so high
Bad cow pun

But then he was captured, stuffed into a crate
Loaded onto a truck, where he rode to his fate
Cows are bummed

He was a scrawny calf, who looked rather woozy
No one suspected he was packing an Uzi
Cows with guns

They came with a needle to stick in his thigh
He kicked for the groin, he pissed in their eye
Cow well hung

Knocked over a tractor and ran for the door
Six gallons of gas flowed out on the floor
Run cows run!

He picked up a bullhorn and jumped up on the hay
We are free roving bovines, we run free today

We will fight for bovine freedom
And hold our large heads high
We will run free with the Buffalo, or die
Cows with guns

They crashed the gate in a great stampede
Tipped over a milk truck, torched all the feed
Cows have fun

Sixty police cars were piled in a heap
Covered in cow pies, covered up deep
Much cow dung

Black smoke rising, darkening the day
Twelve burning McDonalds, have it your way

We will fight for bovine freedom
And hold our large heads high
We will run free with the Buffalo, or die
Cows with guns

The President said "enough is enough
These uppity cattle, its time to get tough"
Cow dung flung

The newspapers gloated, folks sighed with relief
Tomorrow at noon, they would all be ground beef
Cows on buns

The cows were surrounded, they waited and prayed
They mooed their last moos,
they chewed their last hay
Cows outgunned

The order was given to turn cows to whoppers
Enforced by the might of ten thousand coppers
But on the horizon surrounding the shoppers
Came the deafening roar of chickens in choppers

We will fight for bovine freedom
And hold our large heads high
We will run free with the Buffalo, or die
Cows with guns

der Brucer




Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Jane on June 08, 2004, 05:41:20 PM



Reading at home?  I'm more likely to do that late at night, when I'm in bed.  I've found non-fiction is better reading material at these times, because I never can tell when I'll drop off to sleep, which is usually within a page or two.  (At least I'm now in the habit of taking off my glasses before nodding off.  I used to take them off after the nod point, and have had trouble finding them again in the morning.)


I know what you mean.  I found my glasses on the floor the other morning.   ;D

Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: JMK on June 08, 2004, 05:52:21 PM
BK:  I have been involved in my own close-to-a-lawsuit moment with eBay and PayPal.  I got ripped off by a seller who charged an outrageous fee for insurance, then did not insure her package to me.  When I had the temerity to actually politely ask for my insurance fee back, she immediately left inflammatory negative feedback for me (the first I have ever had in over 6 years on eBay as a seller and buyer).  eBay and PayPal refuse to investigate.  I've already spoken to my attorney about it, and we may subpoena her records from PayPal and sue.

BTW, in an interesting eBay purchase, I won a photo today from none other than Kristoffer Tabori!
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: bk on June 08, 2004, 05:57:22 PM
JMK, perhaps your lawyer would like to be famous - doing a class action lawsuit against eBay and their "customer service".  My guy bilked over three hundred people and they allowed it.  Furthermore, they've charged us not only the listing fees but the final value fees.  Even though the peckerhead has been suspended, we cannot file a non-paying bidder alert for seven days, and then must wait a further ten days to file for the credit.  They say they don't give us back the listing fee, but that they might credit the relist.  I mean, all someone has to do is take these cocky little mofos on and they will topple the way they should.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Jane on June 08, 2004, 05:58:46 PM
DerBrucer, I enjoyed the bio on Jimmy Kennedy even if he isn’t related to Jason.

Yes, Jay.  I also hate I SHOT THE SHERRIF.    

MBarnum, ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY is also one of Keith’s favorite songs.  Do you feel better now?

I’m not a Reagan fan.  I was very unhappy while he was governor of California, so unhappy I registered as a Republican in order to vote for Bush Sr. in the primaries.  However, it seems to me if anyone is responsible for not speaking up about Aids in the early years, it would be the general surgeon, not the President.

TCB I thought “They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!” was a hoot, not that it is a “song” I would like to hear very often.

I’m only up to page six.  Stop posting so I can catch up.  Just teasing Bruce. :)
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: MBarnum on June 08, 2004, 06:07:25 PM
Oooohhh...here's another one for the Hall of Shame!

"Shannon" by Henry Gross.  And a more appropriate surname I couldn't've have made up.

Shannon is gone, I heard
she's drifting out to sea,
she always loved to swim and swim...


Oh, my gosh Robin...another favorite song of mine! LOL!

You and I may share similar taste in movies..but when it comes to pop songs...!!
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: MBarnum on June 08, 2004, 06:09:12 PM
BK, I think you and the lawyer should go after the guy who made all those unfullfilled bids! What really pops my cork is that guys like that get away with causing the trouble in the first place! So he gets suspended...big woop...I would gather he really doesn't care one way or another. I believe he should be held financially responsible for his bids!
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: HollyLynn on June 08, 2004, 06:09:14 PM
My package from Candy you Ate as a Kid arrived.  I got me some wax lips, baby.  I got me some wax liquid bottles.  I got me some Cherry Mash and Cherry Mountain.  I got me some Chocolate Babies. I got me some Cherry Buds.  I got me some coconut stacks.  I got me some red licorice rolls.

I love wax lips and cherry mash!  A local burger place makes a cherry mash malt!  I think I must go get one right now!

I used to get wax lips and candy cigs at the gorcery store, but only when my mom wasn't around.  She didn't approve, but my dad didn't care.  If I was with him, he would buy them for me!

Ahh...memories!!   ;D
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: MBarnum on June 08, 2004, 06:10:14 PM

MBarnum, ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY is also one of Keith’s favorite songs.  Do you feel better now?



Keith is a fine man!
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: JMK on June 08, 2004, 06:10:22 PM
The hilarious (meaning infuriating) thing about eBay "customer service" is they have templates to respond to customers with.  I have gotten the same form paragraphs over and over no matter what the problem has been.  The other hilarious (meaning I want to kill them, slowly and with a lot of pain) thing is their noms de plumes--my two latest emails have been signed by "Shango" and "Rohan."  I actually waited on hold for almost an hour to talk with a marginally articulate PayPal person who claimed she was in Omaha, but who sounded suspiciously like she was from far off Rangoon.  She reacted with disbelief when I told her I was going to take legal action against PayPal.  She then hilariously (meaning idiotically) told me my problem was "an eBay problem," ignoring of course that they are the same company.

BTW, my particular seller is a "famous author" (her own words) named Judi McMahon who has a couple of her books on Amazon, such as the blockbuster "Removing Hair Permanently."  I think we should all post scathing reviews.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: MBarnum on June 08, 2004, 06:10:49 PM
I can agree with you all on I SHOT THE SHERIFF. I do try to avoid that song! LOL!
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: JMK on June 08, 2004, 06:11:59 PM
BK, a little good news--the same thing happened to me a couple of weeks ago, and, actually, once they are suspended, you get your Final Value Fee Credit as soon as you file your Non Paying Bidder alert.
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: DERBRUCER on June 08, 2004, 06:12:00 PM
Shoes on tables - BAD LUCK. Do not do it.

I'm sure Hunagrain folklore contributed to this list extracted from Shoe-perstitions (http://www.personal.utulsa.edu/~marc-carlson/shoe/RESEARCH/CONCEALED/shoestuff.htm)

Set your removed shoes higher than your knees and you will be sick. (Superstitions: 10,000 You Really Need)

If shoes or boots are lying on the table, they must be put back on the floor before putting them on or they will bring bad luck (Strackerjan, L. Aberglaube und Sagen aus dem Herzogtum Oldenburg. 1867)

It is bad luck to put shoes on the table, even brand new, still in the box shoes (Randolph, Ozark Magic and Folklore)

The reason you never leave shoes on a table -- your soul will go to get the shoes and fall off the table to hell (Source unknown)

Do not place shoes upon a table, for this will bring bad luck for the day, cause trouble with your mate and you might even lose your job as a result (Source unknown)

Never put your shoes on the table or you will die by hanging (Source unknown)

Never put new shoes on a table, it would cause a family fight (Source unknown)

If you let your shoes or slippers rest on a table, you will quarrel with someone soon/before night (Superstitions: 10,000 You Really Need)

Putting new shoes on a table is unlucky (Superstitions: 10,000 You Really Need)

It is an omen of bad luck to place your shoes on a table. (Superstitions: 10,000 You Really Need)

It is fatal for one's success to lay shoes on a table. (Superstitions: 10,000 You Really Need)

It is bad luck to place hat, shoes, or a gun (other than a pistol under your pillow) on a bed.  {Randolph, Ozark Magic and Folklore); Never put your shoes on the bed, that means a death in your family (Missouri); To lay your shoes on the bed means bad luck (Superstitions: 10,000 You Really Need)

der fountain of wisdom Brucer
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Danise on June 08, 2004, 06:13:08 PM
Jane, you asked about the other Dune books and I’m sorry I didn’t get back to you.

There are two sets.  The first, the “House”Books:

House Atreides,
House Harkonnen,
House Corrino

deal with Duke Leto when he was boy coming into manhood.  They tell how the Emperor Shaddam IV came to power. How the Duke met the Lady Jessica, among other things.  A very good read.  You learn a lot of the background of Dune.  I really enjoyed them.

The 2nd set:
The Butlerian Jihad,
The Machine War,
Don’t know what the 3rd will be titled.

Is set way back in time.  There's an exact number of years before House  Atreides but I don't remember it.  It doesn't matter to me.  It's set when there still was an Earth.  How the machines took over and the war to overthrow them.  The first person to ride a worm.  How the ability to fold space was discovered.  Again, a very interesting read.

I’ve just really started on The Machine War but am enjoying it.

I’m also working on Wicked.  

My Mom says she can't understand how I can read two or more books at the same time and not get the story lines mixed up.  I tell her, "How do you watch your soaps and not get them mixed up?"  :)
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Danise on June 08, 2004, 06:17:38 PM
Can't speak for anyone else but I'm not going to put MY shoes on the table or the bed ever again.

Danise (who doesn't believe in that stuff for one moment but who isn't going to tempt fate either!)

Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: MBarnum on June 08, 2004, 06:18:47 PM
Ebay is frustrating in that they make you wait so many days to file a complaint about this, and then so many days to do that and you have to do this other thing after so many days! I get so confused that I usually just give up.

I have only had a couple of bad situations with auctions as a buyer, however. One I think the seller actually passed away. He had tons of wonderful feedback and no negatives at all. Eventually all at once people, including myself, started leaving negative feedback. When I called him by phone his voicemail was full. Never heard a thing. Called another week or so later and it was still full. Then the phone was disconnected. Gave up. Not much you can do in a situation like that.

On the other hand Ebay will suspend a sellers auction at the slightest provocation...just complain about the product he/she is selling. They will pull the auction faster then lightning....regardless if the complaint was legit or not and they make no attempt to find out the sellers side of a story. I think Ebay takes the easiest way out in any given situation...including completely ignoring the problem.

Oh, well...I still love Ebay and couldn't live without it! LOL!
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Post by: MBarnum on June 08, 2004, 06:21:16 PM
Der Brucer, I had to skip past your list of shoe superstitions...I already avoid putting them on a bed...or walking on a crack, or under a ladder or any number of other silly things like that. I know it is all the bunk, but I just can't help myself! If I learn of any other superstitions I will go looney!

And God forbid someone at work open their umbrella indoors! I break out in a sweat! LOL!
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Post by: MBarnum on June 08, 2004, 06:22:32 PM
I am now going to the post office to mail a (not so) surprise package to DR JRand53!
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Post by: William E. Lurie on June 08, 2004, 06:23:50 PM
And while we are talking stupid lyrics, the seldom used lyrics to the Jack Paar Tonight Show" went (read them out loud)

I M 4 U
S I M
S I M
G I 1 2 B 4 U 4 FR.

U R XTC
S U R
S U R.
I N 10 2 B 4 U 4 FR.
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Post by: Danise on June 08, 2004, 06:23:57 PM
I hope it isn't shoes so Jrand doesn't put them on the table or the bed!
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Post by: Panni on June 08, 2004, 06:29:14 PM
BTW, in an interesting eBay purchase, I won a photo today from none other than Kristoffer Tabori!

I used to know his brother, Noel Siegel.

Off to a Trustees' meeting where I hope they feed us real good 'cause I is hungry.

Laters! (a Jose reference!)

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Post by: DERBRUCER on June 08, 2004, 06:32:39 PM

And God forbid someone at work open their umbrella indoors! I break out in a sweat! LOL!

We'll tell Mary Poppins to stay away!

der Brucer

PS Shall I post the whole list of 10,000 supersititons?
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Post by: DERBRUCER on June 08, 2004, 06:36:29 PM

U R XTC

Watch out, that XTC is deadly!
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Post by: Jane on June 08, 2004, 06:37:05 PM
Danise, yes I still want to hear about your SLC trip.  
I want to know how you can read one book and move to another without knowing how the first book ends.  I rarely read more than one book at a time, unless it is a collection of stories or thoughts.

George, glad you are much better.  It sounded as if you might have been coming down with something big.

DerBrucer that was really sad.  Was it written by a vegetarian?

I must have some sort of magic charm to protect me from the evils of putting my shoes in the wrong place.  So, MBarnum you will be safe with me when I break all of your superstitious rules.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on June 08, 2004, 06:52:07 PM
Good Evening!

I had a nice dinner with my friend, Mark, and we both ate way more food than we should have - that "bathtub" salad bar is just too tempting.  -And they had some very good Eastern Shore Crab Soup too tonight!  -Oh, and I got the Strawberry Shortcake for dessert - I think I got through 1/2 of it before I cried, "Uncle!"  They use thick slices of pound cake instead of biscuits.  -And I think my stomach is still crying "Uncle" right now.

After dinner, I headed up to school and practiced.  Piano practice.  On a real grand piano in my teacher's studio - they still haven't changed the locks in 15 years!  WOW!  It was kind of exciting and "depressing" at the same time.  My fingers are definitely not where they used to be technically speaking.  I brought along some of the rep I used to play.  I was laughing at myself as I was trying to muddle through the second movement of the Franck Violin Sonata (the piano part, of course).  Then came some Bach and some Haydn.  And more laughing.  One of my "summer projects" was to get some regular "real piano" practice, and, after tonight, it will be more of a mission than a project.

-Now if I can just figure out what's causing me to sneeze in my apartment, all will be well.  Sheesh!  I haven't sneezing fits like this in a while.

-And I forgot that Showtime is rebroadcasting their "Tales of the City" series this month... Billy Campbell... Colin Ferguson... YUM!

Of course, I was planning on doing some major cleaning and putting away-ing in my bedroom tonight... Hmmm....
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Post by: bk on June 08, 2004, 07:03:18 PM
Just had my wardrobe fitting: It's a little alarming how none of my clothes fit me anymore - this happens as we get older, I suppose.  But, that's it - no more food - just Candy I Ate As A Kid - that's my new diet.  Tomorrow I shall eat only lean cuisines.
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Post by: Jrand74 on June 08, 2004, 07:06:29 PM
Yes dRJOSE, I am watching TALES right now.....it only points up how bad QAF is....sad sad sad.
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Post by: Jrand74 on June 08, 2004, 07:09:12 PM
The elusive BUTTerfly Page Eight Moon Dance!  ;D

Thanks thanks thanks MB...of course it won't be here until Saturday or Monday!  :'(
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Post by: Jay on June 08, 2004, 07:19:49 PM
I saw a movie called Twist this afternoon Dear Readers.  It is a latter day adaptation of Dickens' Oliver Twist that moves the story's locale to Toronto and replaces the art of pickpocketing with the art of male hustling, with some heavy-duty drug use thrown in for good measure.  Oliver, the Artful Dodger (here known as "Dodge" and played by Nick Stahl, the only actor in the film with whose name I was familiar), Fagin (now a pimp), Nancy, and Bill Sykes (now a drug king and never shown on screen) are all present in the story.  With Dickens' happy ending twist (sorry for the pun) excised, this is one dark, dreary and depressing movie.  My recommendation:  you can pass this one by.
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Post by: Jrand74 on June 08, 2004, 07:30:42 PM
Yikes - Sykes!  Thanks for info DRJAY.  I had read some mixed reviews on that movie.



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Post by: George on June 08, 2004, 07:31:56 PM
Yes dRJOSE, I am watching TALES right now.....it only points up how bad QAF is....sad sad sad.

Then I'm REALLY glad that I only paid a total of $40.95 (not including shipping) for all three seasons of QAF!  (I got them on eBay from China.)
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Post by: Jrand74 on June 08, 2004, 07:33:32 PM
MR BK - read the third story from the top...this lawyer may be your guy!  And he is in LA.  Not sure about pro bono, but he has a history and might be interested.   ;D

http://www.medialifemagazine.com/news2003/jan03/jan27/1_mon/news9monday.html (http://www.medialifemagazine.com/news2003/jan03/jan27/1_mon/news9monday.html)
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Post by: Jrand74 on June 08, 2004, 07:34:28 PM
DRGEORGE - the show is not without interest....just falls a short of what it could or claims to be....  I like some of the characters sometimes....and Sharon Gless is terrific.  It's the writing that is so bad.
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Post by: Jane on June 08, 2004, 07:34:42 PM
Thanks for the warning Jay.
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on June 08, 2004, 07:39:39 PM
Glad you liked the owlet picture.
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Post by: JMK on June 08, 2004, 07:43:17 PM
I played Sykes in a high school production of Oliver.  I have probably mentioned this before (I am a man of few anecdotes, as you've no doubt noticed by now), but two funny things happened during the run.  We used my own dog (a Bassett Hound) for Bill's dog, and she got "stage fright" on opening night and refused to budge off stage.  After my big "My Name" number in Act II, while Nancy was beginning to belt "As Long As He Needs Me," I was attempting to yank Happy up a long flight of stairs to get her offstage.  She would not come.  Unfortunately they had not turned my lavalier off, and my whispered, "Come on, you f---ing dog" was broadcast to the largely Mormon audience (this was in SLC), who all gasped in unison.

Then, on closing night, the retractable knife malfunctioned when I went to kill Nancy and I actually stabbed her right in her lip, which burst wide open, letting a huge jet of blood spurt up and over us both.  The largely Mormon audience "oohed" and "aahed" and applauded wildly at this fantastic special effect.

Memories, pressed between the pages of my mind.
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Post by: S. Woody White on June 08, 2004, 07:52:45 PM
I know what you mean.  I found my glasses on the floor the other morning.   ;D
Oh, I've done worse than that.  I've found them across the room!  (Two days later, I might add.)   :-\
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Post by: S. Woody White on June 08, 2004, 07:53:48 PM
I hope we have a, shall we say, "quieter" TOD tomorrow.  Der Brucer is starting to hum.
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Post by: Jane on June 08, 2004, 08:09:41 PM
Oh, I've done worse than that.  I've found them across the room!  (Two days later, I might add.)   :-\

Of course two days later, who would expect them to be so far from the bed.  How did you manage to see until then. ;D

Keith awaits-maybe we will watch Kit Carson tonight.
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Post by: Jrand74 on June 08, 2004, 08:13:43 PM
Tomorrow is Wednesday....I hope we get a full report on MR BK's movie wardrobe!
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Post by: MBarnum on June 08, 2004, 08:18:20 PM

Thanks thanks thanks MB...of course it won't be here until Saturday or Monday!  :'(

Oh, but I sent it priority my boy! So it should be in Indiana by Thursday, just in the nick of time!! ;D
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Post by: Matt H. on June 08, 2004, 08:25:52 PM
I can and will say nothing negative about disco music as a genre. It was what was popular when I was coming out as a gay man and going to clubs, so I got used to it and it was great to dance to.

No, I never bought any (well, except for the soundtrack to THANK GOD IT'S FRIDAY because I thought it had some catchy tunes despite the movie being amateur night in Dixie.)

Last dance. . . . last chance for love. . . . . .
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Post by: bk on June 08, 2004, 08:33:23 PM
Watching The Gene Krupa Story with Mr. Sal Mineo.
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Post by: MBarnum on June 08, 2004, 08:46:38 PM
Thunderbirds Are Go!

That is all I can say.
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on June 08, 2004, 08:49:57 PM
Wow!  Just finished reading a day's worth of posts!  So many bad songs!  And I love them all! Back in college when we got bored waiting for play rehearsals, we would caterwaul bad songs in the theatre lobby.  Great fun times...

Some bad songs not yet mentioned:

"You're Havin' My Baby" -- Paul Anka
"Sugar, Sugar" -- The Archies
"I Think I Love You" -- The Partridge Family
"The Night the Lights Went Out In Georgia" -- Vicki Lawrence
The Theme from Mahagonny (the Diana Ross movie, not the Kurt Weill show)
My Sharonna! -- The Knack

And the Helen Reddy American Gothic Women Trifecta:  "Delta Dawn", "Ruby Red Dress", and "Angie Baby"

(Actually, I kind of like "Delta Dawn")
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Post by: Jason on June 08, 2004, 08:58:06 PM
Man, I really like a lot to of these songs that you guys hate! LOL! My friends are right...I do have bad taste!

How about LOVING YOU by Minnie Ripperton? When that one comes on I turn the radio up really loud and sing along! Ha!

MBarnum: I think in real life, you and I would be great friends.

I'm just back from seeing Mr. Jim Dale and some other guy in a new off-Broadway show entitled ADDRESS UNKNOWN. It was quite good. I would go into it further, but I don't really feel like it right now. Haha! That was prissy, wasn't it?
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Post by: TCB on June 08, 2004, 09:00:04 PM
Watching The Gene Krupa Story with Mr. Sal Mineo.

Really?  Did Mr. Mineo come for dinner, too, or did he just drop by to watch the movie with you?
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Post by: Jason on June 08, 2004, 09:00:12 PM
DR MBarnum, is this what you were looking for?

And when I see the sign that points one way
The lot we used to pass by every day

Just walk away renee
You won’t see me follow you back home
The empty sidewalks on my block are not the same
You’re not to blame

From deep inside the tears I’m forced to cry
From deep inside the pain I chose to hide

Just walk away renee
You won’t see me follow you back home
Now as the rain beats down upon my weary eyes
For me it cries

Your name and mine inside a heart upon a wall
Still find a way to haunt me though they’re so small

Just walk away renee
You won’t see me follow you back home
Now as the rain beats down upon my weary eyes
For me it cries
Just walk away renee
You won’t see me follow you back home
The empty sidewalks on my block are not the same
You’re not to blame
Title: Re:THE ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY OF LOVE
Post by: Jason on June 08, 2004, 09:04:33 PM
DR Sandra: I'm sitting here with a quart of 1% milk and a bag of cookies and I am going to town! Thanks again...they're faboo!
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Post by: bk on June 08, 2004, 09:09:04 PM
As a direct result of my disgust at not being able to fit into my clothing, I took a brisk two mile jog.  I'd only planned to do one mile, to break in again slowly, since I haven't jogged in almost nine months.   But, it was surprisingly easy and I had no trouble going the entire two.  So much on my mind, that I wasn't even thinking about the jogging.
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Post by: bk on June 08, 2004, 09:09:20 PM
And one for Mahler.
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Post by: Sandra on June 08, 2004, 09:11:11 PM
You're welcome again, Jason. I really had to fight my dad to keep him away from them. I let him have one. I just didn't tell him that I had about seven.
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Post by: Jay on June 08, 2004, 09:20:06 PM
Started to watch a Josh Groban concert on PBS but turned it off after a short while.  I didn't think he was bad, but I didn't think he was very special, either.

Your thoughts on the fellow's artistry, Dear Readers?
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Post by: George on June 08, 2004, 09:40:42 PM
Glad you liked the owlet picture.
DRLaura, I work with a woman who collects owls.  I showed her the picture and she loved it too.  I downloaded and forwarded it to her in an e-mail.  I hope you don't mind. ;D


Some bad songs not yet mentioned:

"Sugar, Sugar" -- The Archies
My sister and I LOVED this song.  We had the 45.  A couple of years ago, I downloaded it from Morpheus, but then my computer died and it's gone.  We also had (and loved) a 45 of "The Night Chicago Died," by...someone.  I think that that would also be an appropriate addition to today's topic.
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Post by: George on June 08, 2004, 09:46:15 PM
Started to watch a Josh Groban concert on PBS but turned it off after a short while.  I didn't think he was bad, but I didn't think he was very special, either.

Your thoughts on the fellow's artistry, Dear Readers?

I haven't heard a lot of his stuff, but I wasn't too impressed with his "stylings."  So many people (a Sondheim reference) that I know just go ga-ga over him and I don't get it.  Sure, he's cute, but to me he only really has one sound to his voice..."pretty."  That's it.  I get bored listening to him after a while (crocodile).
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on June 08, 2004, 09:53:23 PM
I'm glad she liked the photo. Thanks for sending it to her.  I think this is an even better picture:
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Post by: Jrand74 on June 08, 2004, 10:05:07 PM
Oh I like Josh Groban's CD's - play them now and then.  Not sure I would want to see him in concert, but it least he sings the notes the way they were written.
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Post by: Jrand74 on June 08, 2004, 10:05:32 PM
too tired to do the Page Nine Dance.

Thanks for Priority Mail, MB!
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Post by: George on June 08, 2004, 10:08:33 PM
I'm glad she liked the photo. Thanks for sending it to her.  I think this is an even better picture:

Thanks, I will.  I think Ruth will love this one!
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Post by: TCB on June 08, 2004, 10:14:52 PM
Started to watch a Josh Groban concert on PBS but turned it off after a short while.  I didn't think he was bad, but I didn't think he was very special, either.

Your thoughts on the fellow's artistry, Dear Readers?

I really like Josh Groban.  I bought his first CD as soon as  I heard it.  I would love to attend one of his concerts.
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Post by: George on June 08, 2004, 10:16:44 PM
too tired to do the Page Nine Dance.

How's this:

[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%](http://www.haineshisway.com/community/attachments/DSC02669.JPG)[/move]

I can delete this if it's too much.
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Post by: Panni on June 08, 2004, 10:28:21 PM
Cool owl dance, George!

I'm back from my meeting. Lots of good conversation. And they fed us. Important. Started with a salad that would have been fine, except the dressing was too vinegary. Then a rice mushroom appetizer which was good. My main course was sea bass - okay, not great. Gelatto (chocolate and strawberry) for dessert. I'm stuffed.

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Post by: Panni on June 08, 2004, 11:17:20 PM
No posts in an hour! Skammen.
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Post by: bk on June 08, 2004, 11:31:04 PM
Well, could that be because someone was out all evening, hence not posting?  Just asking.
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Post by: George on June 08, 2004, 11:31:15 PM
And, on that note (F-sharp), I'm going to bed.  Night all!