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Title: EXTRA WHIPPED CREAM
Post by: bk on August 04, 2004, 12:00:04 AM
Well, you've read the notes, you've had extra whipped cream on the notes, you've devoured the notes, and now you are ready to post until the whipped cream cows come home.
Title: Re:EXTRA WHIPPED CREAM
Post by: George on August 04, 2004, 12:21:27 AM
So Bruce, first question of the day:  What would it actually take to get "What If" recorded??
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Post by: bk on August 04, 2004, 12:30:21 AM
First answer of the day: Money.  
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Post by: George on August 04, 2004, 12:31:03 AM
Ahh.  I should've known.
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Post by: George on August 04, 2004, 12:38:52 AM
Good night, all.  It's sleepy time now.
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Post by: S. Woody White on August 04, 2004, 01:35:49 AM
Dear BK (and other DRs):

Continuing on a theme brought up yesterday...

What was the first non-American musical you remember seeing (in otherwords, the first import, produced on shores other than American, not the first anti-, because that's an entirely different subject)...

And what do you remember most about it?

(And yes, Tomovoz and Francois, I'm looking forward to your resposes as well!)
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Post by: Tomovoz on August 04, 2004, 02:33:28 AM
A day early for François DR SWoody.
 Now to come up with  a suitable "Respose".
"Oliver" is it. I think 1961 here.
Didn't really get too involved in attending musical theatre until the 70's. First trip to London was in 1973 when  I got to see "Billy",  "The Card", "Joseph & The Amazing Technicolour Dream Coat" and the, IMHO, dull most overhyped of musicals "J C Superstar".
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Post by: M. Brandon on August 04, 2004, 02:49:19 AM
I should only hope that BK appreciates the effort that goes into running the new bit we put in the show today about which he boasts with such naches.  I had to get up from my seat in the house, climb all of three stairs and enter the booth.  Then I had to press the PLAY button on the CD player, and you know with Bruce, the timing must be PERFECT! (Talk about pressure!) And I must have had to do that a good 20 times today!  Oh, and Dale had to press buttons as well and stuff and junk.

By the way, this is Brandon, the lighting technician and sound board op for the show.  Hi to you all.

Garsh, it's late.  I'm going to bed.
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Post by: M. Brandon on August 04, 2004, 02:56:06 AM
Oh yeah, and I brought all those bagels this morning, and forgot to take them home.  What a waste.  I hope one of the cast or crew members gave them a good home...
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Post by: Jrand74 on August 04, 2004, 03:50:50 AM
Welcome to DRBrandon, the LT!  Now we have three participants posting from the show.  Yes, it is WHAT IF - RASHOMON!!!


Today at work, no computer again!  And I have rehearsal tonight, so I will not be home until very late.  I will probably barely beat the WHAT IF crowd back to the computer screen.  *Sigh*.  But I am making money.  In fact I am making $1000 more per year than I thought I would be.  So in just 100 years, that would be an extra $100,000!!!!

My question for ASK BK day - do you live near any of the Frank Lloyd Wright or son Lloyd Wright homes in LA or do you drive by them?  And do you have a favorite?  I like the Barcroft house that DRCHARLES POGUE was talking about awhile back (and btw WEHT to CP?  Still having computer problems?).

I like the idea of coming attractions for Broadway Shows - and in fact I think it will be even funnier "live".

First non-American musical was probably POTO.
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Post by: Tomovoz on August 04, 2004, 04:01:28 AM
A welcome from Oz to M Brandon too.
Good morning Jack and Ben.
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Post by: Jrand74 on August 04, 2004, 04:33:07 AM
Hi Tom!

Why get upset
over things
On the internet.

Why give a
straight line
to people
who whine?

I just thought it would be neat
to be part of Scarlet Street.

But if that's
the way
Just give Barnum
his pay

I write me off
the same way.

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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on August 04, 2004, 04:53:15 AM
Welcome to DR Brandon, lighting technician and sound board op for the show.  



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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on August 04, 2004, 04:58:53 AM

... and the, IMHO, dull most overhyped of musicals "J C Superstar".

Make that IOHOs. I saw JC Superstar in New York and left after the first act. I've walked in to many musicals during intermission, but that's the only one I ever walked out of.
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on August 04, 2004, 05:09:34 AM
I just came across the following while surfing the IBDB:


Aleksandr Borodin

Awards
 
1954 Tony Award® Best Musical
Title: Re:EXTRA WHIPPED CREAM
Post by: Dan (the Man) on August 04, 2004, 05:40:27 AM
Today at work, no computer again!  And I have rehearsal tonight, so I will not be home until very late.  I will probably barely beat the WHAT IF crowd back to the computer screen.  *Sigh*.  But I am making money.  In fact I am making $1000 more per year than I thought I would be.  So in just 100 years, that would be an extra $100,000!!!!

That's enough for you to buy:
A trip to France across the seas,
A motorboat with some water skis,
And maybe even a foreign car,
A charge account at the cornor bar,
Not to mention a Ping Pong set with paddles made of gold!

Quote
I like the idea of coming attractions for Broadway Shows - and in fact I think it will be even funnier "live".

Trivia Question:  What B'way show sorta/kinda had a coming attraction at the end of the first act for the second?
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Post by: William E. Lurie on August 04, 2004, 06:28:12 AM
For Ask BK Day:
In 1996 you produced a CD called BROADWAY BOUND which contained some excellent songs from shows that were supposed to be coming to Broadway in the future.  I know that NO WAY TO TREAT A LADY made it to off-Broadway, but none of the other shows represented seemed to go any farther than the CD (although "Joshua Novak" has had a life outside the show it was written for).  My question is were the songs on the CD better than the rest of the material in their various shows or was it lack of funding or interest from producers that caused these shows to fall through the tracks? The material on the CD was far superior to much of what did make it to Broadway, that I'd really like your opinion on what happenned.

***

Last night I saw the big hit of the Midtown Theatre Festival, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING CLOSER?, which is billed as a comedy about life in a box office.  While it has its funny moments, it is really more the bitter rantings of a man who couldn't make it as a playwright so he took a "fallback" job in a box office.  He hated the job until he was assigned to the TKTS booth where he lives happily ever after.  The play --- really a monologue --- suffers from the fact that its author is also the performer and he has all the stage presence of a box office treasurer.  Still it has its enjoyable moments, mainly in the lines he (allegedly) heard from various customers.  My favorite: "Is WONDERFUL TOWN and URINETOWN the same show?".

While there, I finally met Peter Fillichia who I have had an e-mail friendship for several years.  He comes off just as nice in person as he does in his writing.
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Post by: DERBRUCER on August 04, 2004, 07:07:50 AM
What was the first non-American musical you remember seeing

My respose: Stop the World I Want to Get Off

der Brucer (when I saw the show the title didn't sound dirty)
Title: Re:EXTRA WHIPPED CREAM
Post by: Dan (the Man) on August 04, 2004, 07:10:33 AM
I've been whacking my brain (ouch!) trying to remember what was my first not-American musical aside from Cats.  The only show I can come up with is Ipi Tombi.
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Post by: Noel on August 04, 2004, 07:13:57 AM
Trivia Question:  What B'way show sorta/kinda had a coming attraction at the end of the first act for the second?

If memory serves, A Day In Hollywood had a sneak preview of A Night in the Ukraine before intermisison.

Great question, WEL!  My guess/supposition is that the powers-that-be, the producers and their investors, were short-sighted and skittish, unwilling to take a risk on the unproven but obvious talents of those on the Broadway Bound album.  Amy Powers, at least, saw some compensation from Sunset Boulevard, which fired her.

Tonight I'm off to Woodstock, or thereabouts, for the 10th Annual Improv Retreat.  This is an amazing educational get-together, the highlight of all my summers.  It's like a camp for adults where people come from all over the world to learn, in a forest setting, from the best improv teachers America has to offer, including Gary Austin, Michael Gellman, and me, of all people.  Then, tomorrow morning, I get up at dawn to drive back to New York in time for a day of rehearsals that starts at 9:30.

It's amusing, is it not, the way some people reveal they've not read the Kritzer books?
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on August 04, 2004, 07:14:15 AM
The first non-US musical I saw was Oliver. I didn't pick up on its having a different or foreign quality/personality, and perhaps Onna White should get credit here. Her work, while capturing the spirit of the show, was old-fashioned Broadway choreography at its most exhuberant.
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Post by: MBarnum on August 04, 2004, 07:16:08 AM
Good poem JRand53!

Welcome new DR Brandon!

My question of the day is: Where in the Sam Hill are DRs Jason and Kerry?? Whatever is keeping them away from HHW lately, I hope it is something good and not something bad!
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Post by: DERBRUCER on August 04, 2004, 07:24:34 AM
...He hated the job until he was assigned to the TKTS booth where he lives happily ever after.  The play --- really a monologue --- suffers from the fact that its author is also the performer and he has all the stage presence of a box office treasurer.  Still it has its enjoyable moments, mainly in the lines he (allegedly) heard from various customers.  My favorite: "Is WONDERFUL TOWN and URINETOWN the same show?".
"

Two favorite comments heard while waiting in TKTS line, both in reference to "The Wiz" (opening run):

"I don't think so, I already saw the movie."

"I don't want to see any musicals with black people in it."

der Brucer

PS: To accommodate the later customer, who do doubt will spend endless hours waiting for the "First All Caucasian Musical" to go on sale interest groups should develop little logos to signify their approval of various offerings:

A White Sheet for the KKK approval for "No Non-Anglos"
A Star of David for "No Uncircumcised Male Players"
A MADD logo for "No Alcoholic Beverage references"
A Lavender Triangle with a red slash for "Heterosexually Pure"
A PETA logo for "No Animal Products Used in This Show"

I'd DRs will think of some I've left out.

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Post by: DERBRUCER on August 04, 2004, 07:28:07 AM
It's like a camp for adults where people come from all over the world to learn, in a forest setting...

Clothing optional?

der ever-curious Brucer
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on August 04, 2004, 07:36:58 AM
Still it has its enjoyable moments, mainly in the lines he (allegedly) heard from various customers.  My favorite: "Is WONDERFUL TOWN and URINETOWN the same show?".



But what about Urinetown and The Wiz?
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on August 04, 2004, 07:45:25 AM
My favorite from the TKTS lineup, and it was really quite sweet. A mom told her family that since they were in New York City, they had to eat bagels. Then she brought out a bag of them that she had bought at McDonalds.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on August 04, 2004, 07:48:01 AM
Here is something I found interesting.  At the Amazon.com write-up for the CD of "Caroline...or Change," this is what appears:

"Remember 1958, when milquetoast The Music Man won the Tony for Best Musical over brashly innovative West Side Story? It's likely that one day we'll remember 2004 as the year wholesome Avenue Q won over brilliantly daring Caroline, or Change. The Tony Kushner-Jeanine Tesori collaboration proves that a show can be smart, inspirational, provocative, touching, and simply beautiful all at the same time. And lest you think Caroline is the kind of musical that's good for you in a spinach kind of way, this two-CD set demonstrates that the show's also terrifically fun. Because the plot is set in 1963 Louisiana, Tesori's ultra-melodic score, delivered by a superb cast, expertly weaves together R&B, gospel, doo-wop, soul and girl-group pop (check out the lovely "Salty Teardrops"). And of course there's a bona fide showstopper for Caroline (Tonya Pinkins) in the heartwrenching "Lot's Wife," which had New York audiences in tears during the show's run. Truly extraordinary. --Elisabeth Vincentelli "

"The Music Man" -- MILQUETOAST?

How about melodic, infectious, engaging, fun, vivacious, energetic and thrilling?  Gee...all the things which make a great show, IMO.  Try plugging those adjectives into "West Side Story"...energetic and thrilling work, along with melodic...but apples and oranges, yes??!!!??
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on August 04, 2004, 07:53:22 AM
I love West Side Story. But, had I had one, I would have given my vote to The Music Man.
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Post by: Jrand74 on August 04, 2004, 07:53:32 AM
Guess what?  I have found a computer.  It is a MAC, and it is very nice.  It might be the one that I get to work on, I am not sure.  The Publisher is out this week.

Anyway...very nice DtM:

I love that song...I love that song.  I saw THE PAJAMA GAME movie first as a small child when it was shown by Miss Frances Farmer on her afternoon movie program.  And I went around singing the songs for days, until I was at last able to buy the Pajama Game soundtrack on extended 45's!  Still have it, still play it....still love it!

Thanks DRMBARNUM, but I doubt it will help you get your money, not that you have been asking for it, or anything, just thought I would add you to my poem.  I had a couple of posts over there, and suddenly here comes this "what does this have to do with anything"....so I deleted them  GOD KNOWS there are never any Off Topic posts over there!
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on August 04, 2004, 07:56:37 AM
If memory serves, A Day In Hollywood had a sneak preview of A Night in the Ukraine before intermisison.

You got it!
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Post by: Jrand74 on August 04, 2004, 07:56:47 AM
I have to agree with DiT and RLP...even though it is comparing apples and oranges, but The Music Man it is for me.

Maybe we should do an informal 1957 Tony Awards/2003 Tony Awards and see our results.

1957:  The Music Man or West Side Story
2003:  Avenue Q or Caroline or Change

My votes:  MM & Avenue Q
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Post by: Matt H. on August 04, 2004, 08:03:00 AM
Yes, Noel beat me to the answer by a few minutes. As A DAY IN HOLLYWOOD/A NIGHT IN THE UKRAINE is one of my all-time favorite revue/musicals, I thought of the coming attractions when I was reading BK's note this morning.
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Post by: Matt H. on August 04, 2004, 08:04:05 AM
I would say THE BOY FRIEND was probably the first non-American musical I saw in a summer stock tour when I was just barely a teen-ager.
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Post by: Matt H. on August 04, 2004, 08:07:30 AM
Those are difficult choices. I recognize the inovations in BOTH of them: WEST SIDE STORY and THE MUSIC MAN. My first instinct is to give it to THE MUSIC MAN, but I may rethink later today and change my vote.

I haven't seen or heard CAROLINE so I can't make a decision on a choice between it and AVENUE Q, but in its own way, AVENUE Q is very innovative, imaginative, and both hilarious and poignant within the little world it creates. I have only the "Lot's Wife" number on the Tonys to go by for CAROLINE, and it totally underwhelmed me. However, within the context of the show, I might have liked it more.
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Post by: bk on August 04, 2004, 08:11:39 AM
Those who've read Kritzer Time know very well what my first non US musical was: Stop the World.  

Glad Brandon has joined our merry troupe.  He'll be getting more of a workout tomorrow when we add mics to the mix.  More about that later.

I'll be here until one to answer any questions.

Broadway Bound: No Way to Treat a Lady was the only show I actually either read or saw, save for the Ron Abel/Chuck Steffan Camille, which I saw a reading of years ago.  As is the case a lot of times, books are frequently the big problems in musicals, and I'm sure that that has at least something to do with what you're asking, WEL.  Also, it can even be as simple as that the idea of the show isn't that good.  Camille, for example, was, at the time of the reading, excruciating to sit through.  But individual songs can be great and can record well.  The intent of the album, really, was to showcase Broadway Bound writers.  Sadly, the writers haven't achieved that (some have achieved off-Broadway, of course), and I still say that some of the writers on that album were as talented or more talented than any new writer who's had a B'way show since.
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on August 04, 2004, 08:12:41 AM
I love that song...I love that song.  I saw THE PAJAMA GAME movie first as a small child when it was shown by Miss Frances Farmer on her afternoon movie program.  And I went around singing the songs for days, until I was at last able to buy the Pajama Game soundtrack on extended 45's!  Still have it, still play it....still love it!

PG is also one of my favorite musicals, JRand.  I remember seeing a snippet of "7 and a 1/2 Cents" on a tribute to Warner Brothers TV show back in the early 70s and instantly wanting to hear more.  I asked my mom to pick me up the movie soundtrack at Two Guys and she brought back the original cast recording and I fell in love with it even more. Eventually, I was able to see the whole movie when CBS broadcasted it late one night.

In high school, I pestered the teacher who directed the school musicals to do PG.  He said, "Where would we get all those sewing machines?"  ::)
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Post by: DERBRUCER on August 04, 2004, 08:16:01 AM

I just thought it would be neat
to be part of Scarlet Street.


Well, I thought it would be neat to read Scarlet Street; so, like a good little Kimlet, I hopped onto their website and forth with subcribed (PAYPAL Jan 26, 2004).

I have yet to receive a single issue!!

der hates to complain Brucer
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on August 04, 2004, 08:18:02 AM
I just swept the "roof" of my little balcony. There were all sorts of tiny critters in the crevices up there. Now they're in my hair.
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on August 04, 2004, 08:28:28 AM
Yes, Noel beat me to the answer by a few minutes. As A DAY IN HOLLYWOOD/A NIGHT IN THE UKRAINE is one of my all-time favorite revue/musicals, I thought of the coming attractions when I was reading BK's note this morning.

Another one of my favs, too, DR Matt.  I still laugh when I think of the late great Peggy Hewitt lugging out that huge saxophone and whomping out "On the Good Ship Lollipop" on it.
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on August 04, 2004, 08:36:37 AM
I just swept the "roof" of my little balcony. There were all sorts of tiny critters in the crevices up there. Now they're in my hair.

I heard about this girl who had a huge beehive do and she walked under a spiderweb and her do swept up the spider and then a week later she was sitting in algebra and she started bleeding from her ears and she dropped dead right there in class.  When they did an autopsy, they found that the spider had laid its eggs in her do and when the baby spiders hatched they burrowed themselves into her skull and they started to eat her brain!!!

So wash your hair, now!  Before it's too late!
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Post by: Matt H. on August 04, 2004, 08:37:46 AM
Another one of my favs, too, DR Matt.  I still laugh when I think of the late great Peggy Hewitt lugging out that huge saxophone and whomping out "On the Good Ship Lollipop" on it.

Oh, what a wonderful memory you've just brought back to me. Just loved that show, that ankle stage, the versatility of the performers. It's always been one of my dreams to do that show.
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Post by: DERBRUCER on August 04, 2004, 08:38:17 AM
Those who've read Kritzer Time know very well what my first non US musical was: Stop the World.  


Well, we know Benjamin loved Stop the World. We also know it was not his first musical theatre experience (e.g. "Billy Barnes' LA," and "Family Affair" were previously seen).

Are we then to conclude that Benjamin saw no other shows than those mentioned in the novels; or, more to the point, are we to conclude that Bruce Kimmel saw no other shows than those commented upon in the Kritzer novels?

der "just the facts, ma'am" Brucer




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Post by: Joy on August 04, 2004, 08:40:39 AM
Hello, everybody!  I'm popping in to answer and ask some questions.

My first "Broadway" musicals were actually West End shows.  I didn't see New York until after I graduated from college, but while I was a sophomore in college my mom took me to London.  We saw Sunset Boulevard WITH Patti LuPone, thank you very much; Les Miserables; Crazy for You; Blood Brothers; and Miss Saigon.  Also, in high school I saw POTO at the Kennedy Center.  My theatre/band geek friends and I were obsessed with it at the time, and my friend Heather and I sobbed through the entire thing.  I would never go see it now, here in New York, but every time I see the buses with the "Remember your first time?" ads for it, I think about that first time in DC.  

Der Brucer, to answer your question about the "adult" camp at which DH Noel is teaching (and leaving me to sleep alone with the roaches tonight, I might add):   when we were at the musical theatre version of this camp a few years ago, we were joined by another group of campers who called themselves "The Sucasians", and I have no idea if I'm spelling it right.  They get the name from the Spanish expression "Mi casa, su casa" (someone who speaks Spanish, please correct me if I've misquoted that).  They are essentially peace-lovin', free-love-sharin', grass-smokin' hippies who get together and share their love all over the country, and perhaps the world.  They were there having a get-together, and we hung out with them and they came to see our final performance.  Wonderful, lovely people.  I'm certain that much shedding of clothing was done in their bungalow.

As for us musical theatre campers, at some point in the week we went skinny-dipping, and the moment that DH Noel dropped trou and jumped into the pool was the moment I knew he was the man for me.

And now I have a question for BK and everybody else:
What IS it with the five-and-a-half octave range claim?  The entire canon of opera music, from basso profundo to coluratura, only encompasses about four and a half octaves.  So how is it that Jessica Simpson's father/manager can claim that she has a five-and-a-half octave range?  If she can go from a C below middle C to the C above high C, that would be an extremely wide range, and possible (although it wouldn't be pretty), but that is only four octaves.  It is just not possible, and even if it WAS possible, she would never record anything that encompassed that range.   Not even close.  The widest range any pop singer, excluding Mariah  Carey with her whistle tones, is probably about two and a half.  So what gives?

This claim by Jessica's father (in Vanity Fair last month) isn't the first time I've heard this little slice of ignorance.  My stepmother took me and my sister to an agent in Phoenix who heard us sing and remarked on how we were such great singers because we can sing "in that fifth octave".  ???????????  What is WRONG with these people?
 
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Post by: DERBRUCER on August 04, 2004, 08:41:50 AM
I heard about this girl

You subscribe to "Urban Legends Review"?
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Post by: Jrand74 on August 04, 2004, 08:52:15 AM
Actually DrderBrucer - if you go to the site and email the Reditor, he is very good about getting you your copy of SS.  

Let him  know when you subscribed.  Subscribing in 1/2004 you should have a least one in your library by now....maybe two!  Email...and tell him TD sent you!
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Post by: Jrand74 on August 04, 2004, 08:53:34 AM
DRJoy - the fact that Jessica and/or Ashlee Simpson claim to be singers at all astounds me!
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on August 04, 2004, 08:53:51 AM

So wash your hair, now!  Before it's too late!

Not enough hair to worry about, but thanks for the alert.
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on August 04, 2004, 08:56:58 AM

As for us musical theatre campers, at some point in the week we went skinny-dipping, and the moment that DH Noel dropped trou and jumped into the pool was the moment I knew he was the man for me.



Too bad the karma feature was scrapped. DR Noel's rating would be going through the roof.
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Post by: Jrand74 on August 04, 2004, 09:00:56 AM
DiT your comparison of URINETOWN and THE WIZ has made my day!

DR DtM - i love urban legends like that!!!  Spiders in the hair....yuck.

Mr BK must have missed my question about the Frank Lloyd Wright and Lloyd Wright homes.....do you live near any of them....or have a favorite in the LA area?

Warning:  My friend Sandi bought a big cactus at the plant store.  A few days later she noticed that it was expanding....as the days went by, it swelled larger and larger.  She eventually called the store and told them.  She was told to wrap the cactus securely in a garbage bad and return it at once to the store.  It seems that these are the symtoms of a plant that is plaing host to scorpion babies and they have hatched.  The cactus would have soon exploded and her home infested with thousands of baby scorpions.  YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!

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Post by: Dan (the Man) on August 04, 2004, 09:03:28 AM
You subscribe to "Urban Legends Review"?

Subscribe?  I'm a free-lance contributor!
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on August 04, 2004, 09:04:53 AM
As for us musical theatre campers, at some point in the week we went skinny-dipping, and the moment that DH Noel dropped trou and jumped into the pool was the moment I knew he was the man for me.


Ew! Ew! Ew!  MY MIND'S EYE!  MY MIND'S EYE!

 ;)
Title: Re:EXTRA WHIPPED CREAM
Post by: Dan (the Man) on August 04, 2004, 09:10:50 AM
DR Joy, the Sucasians sound a lot like the staff at the Omega Institute in Rhinebeck, NY--the adult summer holastic learning center camp that I go to annually.  The only difference is that they tend to keep their grass smoking, naked-goin' and free lovin' ways amongst themselves.
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Post by: Stuart on August 04, 2004, 09:18:05 AM
here in New York, but every time I see the buses with the "Remember your first time?" ads for it, I think about that first time in DC.  

That's funny, 'cause every time I see those "Remember your first time?" ads, I think of A CHORUS LINE, which (I believe) was the FIRST show to use that line....
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Post by: Panni on August 04, 2004, 09:18:25 AM
It's Abie the Wonderdog's BIRTHDAY today! He's two. I took a birthday portrait, but my phone-camera refuses to focus properly. Perhaps dear JRand could fix it? Anyway, here's the birthday boy...
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Post by: Panni on August 04, 2004, 09:19:26 AM
And here's the latest of Pete the Turtle....
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Post by: Panni on August 04, 2004, 09:20:50 AM
And finally, the three FROG MUSES my producers gave me the other day...
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on August 04, 2004, 09:21:30 AM
Happy birthday, Abie baby,
Happy birthday to you!
Happy birthday, Abie baby,
Happy birthday to you!
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Post by: Panni on August 04, 2004, 09:28:08 AM
WOOF!
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Post by: bk on August 04, 2004, 09:29:46 AM
I'm sure Benjamin saw a few other shows, but those were the ones that had impact (the ones mentioned) - I may be wrong, however, and the ones mentioned may be all of them (up through the end of the book).  
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Post by: bk on August 04, 2004, 09:30:48 AM
Welcome ten GUESTS.  We're talkin' about questions and answers.
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Post by: Panni on August 04, 2004, 09:32:47 AM
Must now REALLY concentrate on me work. Laters.
(Oh - don't remember the chronology - either OLIVER or STOP THE WORLD as first non-American musicals. On the other hand, my first seven years of musicals were non-American because I wasn't living here. Although as a very young kid I saw operas and operettas in Hungary -- not musicals. On the other other hand i didn't really live in the US until 1989. On the other other other hand, I must get to work.)
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Post by: MBarnum on August 04, 2004, 09:37:40 AM
Happy Birthday DP (Dear Pet) Abie!
   
       (http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/party/party-smiley-042.gif)
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Post by: MBarnum on August 04, 2004, 09:39:12 AM
JRand53, I hope that cactus info was just a joke, otherwise I think I will be sick! And I will definitely NEVER buy a cactus as long as I live!
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Post by: Jrand74 on August 04, 2004, 09:48:57 AM
No DRMBARNUM....it was a true story!  If you have a new cactus in your home that begins acting thusly....take action.  
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Post by: Jrand74 on August 04, 2004, 09:49:39 AM
Lovely photos DRPANNI - I can't help you reduce them....not being at home and all.....but they are a page away now in any case.
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Post by: Jay on August 04, 2004, 09:49:56 AM
My question for ASK BK day - do you live near any of the Frank Lloyd Wright or son Lloyd Wright homes in LA or do you drive by them?  And do you have a favorite?  

One of my faves is the Sowden House on Franklin Avenue.  It was designed by Mr. Wright the Younger.
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Post by: George on August 04, 2004, 09:51:46 AM
Dear BK (and other DRs):

Continuing on a theme brought up yesterday...

What was the first non-American musical you remember seeing (in otherwords, the first import, produced on shores other than American, not the first anti-, because that's an entirely different subject)...

And what do you remember most about it?

I saw The Phantom of the Opera, and not only was it originally produced on shores other than American, I saw it on shores other than American.  Actually, I saw it in Vancouver, British Columbia.  What I remember most about it was, while I was sitting there watching it, I realized that if I were ever to see this in New York or London or Seattle or even Japan, that I would see the exact same sets, the exact same staging, the exact same costumes, pretty much the same interpretations as what I was seeing at that moment...and I figured that I would never have to see it again.  Even though I did see Les Misérables twice in Seattle, I realized this when I was watching POTO.  That's what I remember most about the experience.  ::)
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Post by: JoseSPiano on August 04, 2004, 09:59:12 AM
Good Morning!

Sorry for not posting post-rehearsal last night.  I did start reading the day's posts, but then I took a "Daily Show" break, and then... I found myself hitting the snooze button on my travel alarm at 8:30 this morning.

Tech was a breeze yesterday.  Thank you, BK, - and Tammy - for pre-teching the show on Monday.  The last time I was with a show that pre-teched, it was SWEENEY TODD at the Kennedy Center.  All the shows that summer had to be pre-teched in order to make sure that the shows opened on time.  And, at least for SWEENEY, I ended up being called in to play for the pre-tech in order to help them with some of the timing of the music-related cues - which was almost all of them in that show.  We started at 10:00AM, we ended at Midnight - and we still didn't get through the whole show.  Of course, since it was a tech, I think I only ended up playing about an hours worth total over that span of time.  But I did get some reading done, and it was fascinating watching all the various tech departments coming together at the same time.
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Post by: George on August 04, 2004, 10:05:53 AM
I would say THE BOY FRIEND was probably the first non-American musical I saw in a summer stock tour when I was just barely a teen-ager.

I forgot about The Boy Friend.  I was actually in a produdction and played Lord Brockhurst...so I guess that doesn't count as "seeing."
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Post by: bk on August 04, 2004, 10:09:31 AM
I don't live near any Frank Lloyd Wright houses, but dear reader Charles definitely does.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on August 04, 2004, 10:10:33 AM
As for first non-American musical I ever saw.. Hmm.. I'll have to think about that one.

I do know that it took me a couple of years to finally get enough real interest into seeing ALW's Phantom of the Opera live on stage.  And I waited to see it in NYC rather than on the road.  I did buy the two record(!) set when it originally came out, and listened to it many times - some of the more complex harmonies and time signatures caught my mind's ear.  (But then after listening to a few more ALW shows, I realized that those were part of his arsenal.)

But I'm really not sure what my first non-American musical was... Hmm.. I'll have to think about it as the day goes by...

OH!  Now that I have thought about it for a few... I'm guessing it was Cats.  The "Skimbleshanks" number still occasionally gets caught in my head because of the odd meter. 10/8, 11/8, 13/8 - I can't seem to remember right now - and my fingers won't tap it out properly - brain is still waking up.
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Post by: Jennifer on August 04, 2004, 10:13:26 AM
Hey DR Emily, I finally saw a commercial for Amish in The City.  It will be on Global TV, starting this Sunday at 10pm.
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Post by: Jennifer on August 04, 2004, 10:15:14 AM
I know I saw Cats, then Phantom, then Les Mis (I think in that order).
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Post by: William E. Lurie on August 04, 2004, 10:16:59 AM
By the way, my first "foreign" show was IRMA LA DOUCE.  I would love to see it revived today.  One of the big mysteries of movie-making is why all the songs were cut from the film except one snippett of "Dis Donc".  (The same could be asked of "Fanny").
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Post by: Panni on August 04, 2004, 10:38:17 AM
I hang my head in shame, DRs. It turns out that I had the date wrong. Abie's birthday is on August 14th NOT the 4th. :P
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Post by: Panni on August 04, 2004, 10:47:13 AM
This is very very very (that's there very's) funny.

http://whitehousewest.com/
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Post by: DERBRUCER on August 04, 2004, 11:03:15 AM

DR DtM - i love urban legends like that!!!  Spiders in the hair....yuck.


(http://www.snopes.com/sources/children/graphics/spiders.jpg)

Read all about it here:Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0874835259/ref=urbanlegendsrefe/002-3341698-9109643)

der de-bunking Brucer
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Post by: Joy on August 04, 2004, 11:06:51 AM
Read all about the cactus legend here:
http://www.snopes.com/horrors/insects/cactus.htm

If you go to this page
http://www.snopes.com/photos/maggots.asp
you can see a picture of a man whose brain is infested with maggots.  I won't post the picture here because it is just a little too disturbing to post without warning.  Evidently it's a real picture, too.  Ew.
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Post by: Joy on August 04, 2004, 11:08:28 AM
Der Brucer, I am so with you on the de-bunking thing.  I love to de-bunk a good legend or e-mail.  Those "I heard from someone who works in the FBI that her brother's fiancee's sister-in-law used to date an arab guy and he told her not to go to the mall on Halloween because the terrorists are planning to attack" e-mails really piss me off.
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Post by: DERBRUCER on August 04, 2004, 11:14:59 AM
No DRMBARNUM....it was a true story!  If you have a new cactus in your home that begins acting thusly....take action.  

Jack Randal - get your hand off of Michael's leg (meaning: stop pulling it, the leg)!

(http://www.snopes.com/horrors/graphics/cactus.jpg)

The story around the legend is even more interesting than the legend itself:

Extracts from Snopes' Urban Legends (http://www.snopes.com/horrors/insects/cactus.htm):

Quote
Legend:   A cactus explodes and spews baby tarantulas everywhere

[Collected on the Internet, 1997]
My cousin claims that she knew a women, through a close friend, who had been vacationing in Arizona. She decided to dig up a cactus to take home with her. When she arrived home she potted her new cactus and placed it in her living room. She was admiring it one morning only to find that the cactus was "breathing". Puzzled, the women called the local branch of the Dept of Agriculture in her area. She was told to shut all windows and doors and get out of the house immediately. It turns out the cactus had baby tarantulas inside and burst open just a few moments after the women escaped unharmed.

Variations:

The plant is a cactus or a yucca, and it begins to shake, whine, or hum.

In rare versions, scorpions are said to come spewing out of the plant.

Sometimes the authorities manage to contain the damage, either by  destroying the cactus before it explodes, or by dragging it out of the house before it lets loose. In other versions the plant owner escapes her home just in the nick of time; as she clears the front door, the cactus goes kaboom. Occasionally, the cactus lets loose its horde of creepies in the dead of night. In one particularly chilling version, newlyweds awaken to find thousands of baby tarantulas crawling on their faces. Though they survive the incident, the wife has to have her lips amputated because of the number of bites on her mouth and can never kiss again.
...
Origins:   Legends about spiders nesting in cactuses or yuccas imported from Central America surfaced in Scandinavia and Great Britain in the early 1970s.

In 1985 an outbreak of "Spider in the Yucca" lore featured a plant supposedly bought from Marks & Spencer, a leading British department store.

Though at times this story has slipped past the watchdogs of the mainstream media and been reported as a news story, it's never been true. There has never been a spider-spewing exploding cactus, and there never will be. You see, the tale is impossible.


You can go to the site for the lengthy explanation about "why" it is impossible.

der Brucer (desparately trying to protect poor Barnum's nerves)

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Post by: DERBRUCER on August 04, 2004, 11:17:58 AM
Read all about the cactus legend here:
http://www.snopes.com/horrors/insects/cactus.htm


Zounds - beat to the punch! That'll teach me to spend 10 minutes prettying-up a post!

der second-string debunker Brucer
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Post by: DERBRUCER on August 04, 2004, 11:21:11 AM

My first "Broadway" musicals were actually West End shows.  I didn't see New York until after I graduated from college, but while I was a sophomore in college my mom took me to London.  We saw Sunset Boulevard WITH Patti LuPone, thank you very much; Les Miserables; Crazy for You; Blood Brothers; and Miss Saigon.  Also, in high school I saw POTO at the Kennedy Center.  

I trust you have shared your appreciation of these "Euro-masterworks" with DH. ;D

der trouble-making Brucer
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on August 04, 2004, 11:22:48 AM
Ah, GREAT!

Next you'll be telling us there's no Easter Bunny or Santa Claus!!!
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Post by: DERBRUCER on August 04, 2004, 11:29:32 AM

As for us musical theatre campers, at some point in the week we went skinny-dipping, and the moment that DH Noel dropped trou and jumped into the pool was the moment I knew he was the man for me.


This surely is a moment to preserved for posterity!
There must be music by a new voice of the American Musical (with only two names) - there must be Fosse-esque choreography - there must be a CD:

"Our Skinny Dip - or why I Love My Husband - The Musical".

Squeaky-clean fun for adventurous theatre goers.

der "Now-I'm-in-Trouble" Brucer

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Post by: Jennifer on August 04, 2004, 11:29:36 AM
Oh i'm glad that story about the cactus isn't true. That totally grossed me out.

Btw, in the paper today there is an article about grilling fruits.  It says peaches are really good to try.  Now I must do this.
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Post by: Jrand74 on August 04, 2004, 11:33:19 AM
Oh my, but my friend Sandi always told me the truth.....I thought....although it was tarantulas now that you mention it.  DRJOY I clicked on the first link, but not the second.  Your description was enough for me.
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Post by: DERBRUCER on August 04, 2004, 11:34:02 AM
Ah, GREAT!

Next you'll be telling us there's no Easter Bunny or Santa Claus!!!

NEVER! One must never kill the goose that lays the Golden Eggs.

Clap if you believe in The Tooth Fairy!

der Brucer (who understands that the new Dollar Coin was introduced at the urging of young parents attempting to keep up with inflation - a lousy quarter/tooth just doesn't hack in the 21st Century)
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Post by: Jrand74 on August 04, 2004, 11:34:44 AM
But what about the Easter Santa Bunny?
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Post by: DERBRUCER on August 04, 2004, 11:39:28 AM
Der Brucer, I am so with you on the de-bunking thing.  I love to de-bunk a good legend or e-mail.  

Debunking the legends can be fun; however, spending many too many hours squashing the eternal string of frantic Email messages from "good friends" spreading the latest Virus Hoax warning is indeed a toil and a tribulation (thank you Tim Rice).

der Brucer
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Post by: DERBRUCER on August 04, 2004, 11:41:33 AM
But what about the Easter Santa Bunny?

Do you sit on any lap offered at the local Mall? 8)

der Brucer (are Easter Bunnies related to Easter Seals?)
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Post by: Joy on August 04, 2004, 11:42:12 AM
I trust you have shared your appreciation of these "Euro-masterworks" with DH. ;D

der trouble-making Brucer
It is a discussion that comes up about once a year or so.  While I no longer have an appreciation for, as DH calls them, "Eurotrash" musicals, I do understand the draw they have for many people.  Having once been a RABID ALW fan, I know how it feels to love POTO and its cousins Jekyll & Hyde, Miss Saigon, etc. etc. etc. (to quote a musical for which my love has not waned with maturity and experience -- that's saying something, don't you think?).

I believe that any songwriter who has a goal of writing a hit show for Broadway audiences must understand and respect the love of the theatre that the POTO crowd clearly displays, and must learn to tap into the essence of exactly what it is that makes these people want to shell out their money.  This does not mean that I want DH Noel to write a POTO clone; simply that I want him to write something original and high-quality that appeals to the masses.  They did it with Avenue Q and probably many others that I cannot think of now.  That's a good question for today, actually:  Can you name modern musicals that are well-constructed and intelligent, but still managed to appeal to the masses?

So, DerBrucer, the answer to your question is yes.  I did come out of the closet to my husband as a former Eurotrash fan.   :o ;D ;)
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on August 04, 2004, 11:49:43 AM
Nice to see you posting again, DR Joy.
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Post by: George on August 04, 2004, 11:53:21 AM
OH!  Now that I have thought about it for a few... I'm guessing it was Cats.  The "Skimbleshanks" number still occasionally gets caught in my head because of the odd meter. 10/8, 11/8, 13/8 - I can't seem to remember right now - and my fingers won't tap it out properly - brain is still waking up.

I've never seen Cats live.  I have four or five different recordings and the DVD (which I haven't even sat through all the way), and it's come to Seattle four or five times, but I've never seen it...not even the times I went to New York or London.  Go figure.
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Post by: George on August 04, 2004, 12:00:30 PM
As for us musical theatre campers, at some point in the week we went skinny-dipping, and the moment that DH Noel dropped trou and jumped into the pool was the moment I knew he was the man for me.

Ew! Ew! Ew!  MY MIND'S EYE!  MY MIND'S EYE!

 ;)

DETAILS! DETAILS!!  (Just kidding ;D...no really, I'm Just Kidding!!)
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Post by: MBarnum on August 04, 2004, 12:01:00 PM
That is the first time I have ever been taken in by an urban legend! I can usually smell one a mile away and I am always informing various co-workers that the UPS man really is the UPS man...and not some terrorist who bought UPS uniforms on EBay or some such thing that has been passed around the office. LOL!

...and all that talk of tarantula's and scorpions just really freaked me out (almost a BEYOND THE VALLEY OF THE DOLLS reference).

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Post by: Panni on August 04, 2004, 12:11:17 PM
How many people have friends of friends who were on staff in the ER the infamous night of Gere and the gerbil? Yes, Virginia, they saw it with their very own eyes. That must have been the best staffed ER in Los Angeles!
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Post by: Jrand74 on August 04, 2004, 12:12:58 PM
Earth vs. The SPIDER!!!!!!
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Post by: Jrand74 on August 04, 2004, 12:14:07 PM
Wow - DRPANNI - there were as many people working in the ER that night as saw ANYONE CAN WHISTLE on Broadway....and/or were at Woodstock.
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Post by: bk on August 04, 2004, 12:17:03 PM
I'm off to rehearsal.  Keep the home fries burning.
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on August 04, 2004, 12:20:06 PM
How many people have friends of friends who were on staff in the ER the infamous night of Gere and the gerbil? Yes, Virginia, they saw it with their very own eyes. That must have been the best staffed ER in Los Angeles!

Philadelphia had its very own version of the gerbil/ER story, except the patient was no other than the E Channel's Jerry Penacolli (he was a local weatherman during the 80s.)  It seemed that everyone knew someone who knew a nurse who was there when they brought him in.
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Post by: divarobbie on August 04, 2004, 12:22:47 PM
For Ask BK:  When listening to older cast albums, do you ever think "If only I had gotten my hands on this...", even as a reissue?  What do you consider to be the cast album that got away?
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on August 04, 2004, 12:23:40 PM
Descriptive Writing Adventures, 101:

"The only lap that had ever eluded her was the lap of luxury."
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Post by: DERBRUCER on August 04, 2004, 12:28:33 PM
How many people have friends of friends who were on staff in the ER the infamous night of Gere and the gerbil? Yes, Virginia, they saw it with their very own eyes. That must have been the best staffed ER in Los Angeles!

If you can sneak it past PETA, you might have the making a great screenplay (probably a pass from Disney, but hey, there's Showtime where taste is never an issue).

der Brucer (::note to self - "Look up Hungarian Gerbil stories"::)

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Post by: Joy on August 04, 2004, 12:29:41 PM
Wow - DRPANNI - there were as many people working in the ER that night as saw ANYONE CAN WHISTLE on Broadway....and/or were at Woodstock.
....or were in the ER the night they ordered pizza and somebody jizzed on it, and they just happened to test the jizz and it tested positive for AIDS!!!!

Pretty much any story that is secondhand and ends with an "Oh, my GAWD!!!  EEWWWWW!!!!" is an urban legend.  Good rule of thumb.
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Post by: Joy on August 04, 2004, 12:31:27 PM
Ew! Ew! Ew!  MY MIND'S EYE!  MY MIND'S EYE!

 ;)

Yeah, I know, he almost poked my eye out, too.  ;)
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Post by: bk on August 04, 2004, 12:31:50 PM
divarobbie: Yes, I occasionally hear an older recording that I would LOVE to have done - the original 110 in the Shade being a prime example, and Follies being another.  I do love the Follies album, but it is simply substandard in terms of its production and, man, that could have been one of the greatest cast albums ever recorded with a little TLC.  
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Post by: Stuart on August 04, 2004, 12:40:02 PM
Not for nothing folks, but I am an uncle again.  DP John's sister-in-law just gave birth to Kate Marie.

The first girl in a family of 4 sons (of which my DP is one) and 3 nephews, spread over two of the 4 brothers.

Boy is she gonna be spoiled!

Can I start shopping for prom dresses for her now?
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Post by: Stuart on August 04, 2004, 12:40:31 PM
OK, how about now?
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Post by: DERBRUCER on August 04, 2004, 12:50:36 PM
That's a good question for today, actually:  Can you name modern musicals that are well-constructed and intelligent, but still managed to appeal to the masses?

"Ragtime" jumps first to mind. Also "1776" and "Shenandoah".

Then one of my favorite "musical shows" is one in which "music" plays a starring role, but none is performed on-stage - "Amadeus".

der Brucer (who thinks throwing animated films like "Hunchback of Notre Dame" into the mix might be interesting)
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Post by: DERBRUCER on August 04, 2004, 12:53:32 PM

Can I start shopping for prom dresses for her now?

Any excuse for a trip to Bloomingdales!

(Or or you a Neiman Marcus kinda gal?)
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Post by: Ann on August 04, 2004, 12:54:15 PM
*****GOOD VIBES REQUEST*****

Remember my sister's car?  The one that was stolen?  Well, they found it, and apparently the night it was stolen, it was involved in a hit-and-run accident somewhere on the west side.  Unless my sis can prove that she wasn't in the car, she's responsible.  The accident happened that night, and she didn't report it stolen until she discovered it that next morning...oy...
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Post by: Jane on August 04, 2004, 12:58:44 PM
Welcome M. Brandon.   I enjoyed your first post very much.

JRand in Michigan we almost purchased a house across the street from a Frank Lloyd Wright home.

MBarnum, just today I was wondering if Jason began the new job he wanted.

DTM is that hair story still circulating?  Seems it has been around as long as I can remember.  Great find DerBrucer-love the pic.

Panni cute frogs.  :) Is that a poster or real china behind them?  I love antique cups and saucers.

Joy thank you for the snoops link.  I hadn’t had a chance to look the story up yet.

This is true.  My friend’s cat had a problem with his eye that would not go away with an antibiotic eye cream.  My friend returned to the doctor with the cat, he looked again and pulled out a slimy white worm.  Honest, this happened recently here in Ashland. :P

Stuart congratulations on the new little girl in the family.  How very nice.
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on August 04, 2004, 01:00:33 PM
Mazel tov DR Stuart.
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Post by: Jane on August 04, 2004, 01:01:01 PM
GOOD VIBES FOR ANN’S SISTER!    Can she prove where she was during the night?  Was there anyone with her when she noticed the car missing?
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Post by: Jane on August 04, 2004, 01:02:56 PM
Debunking the legends can be fun; however, spending many too many hours squashing the eternal string of frantic Email messages from "good friends" spreading the latest Virus Hoax warning is indeed a toil and a tribulation (thank you Tim Rice).

der Brucer

That's for sure!  I wish people would check snoops before sending on email.
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Post by: Jennifer on August 04, 2004, 01:06:04 PM
DR Ann that is terrible.  But there must be some way that she can prove where she was that night.  Or there must be people who she called when she realized the car was gone the next morning (like you).

What did the car hit?  Was it just another car, or an actual people?

Good vibes, that is really awful. ~~~~~~~~~~~
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Post by: Jennifer on August 04, 2004, 01:08:35 PM
Congrats to DR Stuart!
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Post by: Stuart on August 04, 2004, 01:12:35 PM
Thanks for the congrats!

And good vibes to Ann and her sister!
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Post by: Matt H. on August 04, 2004, 01:13:04 PM
By the way, my first "foreign" show was IRMA LA DOUCE.  I would love to see it revived today.  One of the big mysteries of movie-making is why all the songs were cut from the film except one snippett of "Dis Donc".  (The same could be asked of "Fanny").

Shirley MacLaine asnwered that one for you on her interview with Robert Osborne on TCM. She said Billy Wilder told her he had no idea how to direct a musical, and didn't want to try. She begged with him to give it a go and get help if needed, but he refused. As popular as the movie was without the songs, MacLaine says it would have been better with the score intact. I agree with her.
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Post by: Panni on August 04, 2004, 01:14:28 PM
Congrats to Uncle Stuart!

Good vibes to Ann's sister!
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Post by: Panni on August 04, 2004, 01:14:49 PM
WELCOME, BRANDON!
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Post by: Panni on August 04, 2004, 01:16:21 PM
Jane, the china behind the frogs is the picture on the gift card that came with the frogs. I thought it would make a nice background -- and it did.
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Post by: Panni on August 04, 2004, 01:17:36 PM
My back is SO sore from writing. I think I'll pause for lunch and a stretch.
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Post by: Matt H. on August 04, 2004, 01:21:18 PM
I spent a leisurely afternoon enjoying (finally) THOSE MAGNIFICENT MEN IN THEIR FLYING MACHINES. It's a beautiful transfer, but the Dolby Digital 5.0 sound is really just stereo. I heard sound coming from the front three speakers but next to nothing out of the surrounds, not even the delightful score was pumped into the rear speakers. Ah, well, it's still an enjoyable movie (but I prefer THE GREAT RACE hands down over this; they were released at around the same time and MAGNIFICENT MEN made about twice as much at the box-office.)
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Post by: Jay on August 04, 2004, 01:26:59 PM
...and Follies being another.  I do love the Follies album, but it is simply substandard in terms of its production and, man, that could have been one of the greatest cast albums ever recorded with a little TLC.  

...and a second disk.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on August 04, 2004, 01:29:12 PM
Yeah, I know, he almost poked my eye out, too.  ;)

Aughhhh!

Too....

........much...

..................information.....

Must...

........blank...

...................thoughts......

Aughghghghgh!

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Post by: Jay on August 04, 2004, 01:30:53 PM
My back is SO sore from writing. I think I'll pause for lunch and a stretch.

It would be easier if you typed with your hands instead.

 ;D
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on August 04, 2004, 01:35:29 PM
It would be easier if you typed with your hands instead.

 ;D

I think you need a "time out," DRJay.

This may be the worst pun you ever posted.

I'd groan, but.....
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Post by: Jrand74 on August 04, 2004, 01:38:25 PM
I wish I knew my lines for this #*$^ play.  I know soon, I will...but I don't right now.   St Genesius!!!

Congrats on the new baby girl   - female type....and good proving vibes to DRAnn's sister.  A negative is very difficult to prove.
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Post by: DERBRUCER on August 04, 2004, 01:48:03 PM
It would be easier if you typed with your hands instead.

 ;D

Jay, you too kind. I was thinking of something along the "famous practioners of working on one's back" line.

der Brucer (for every Nice Jewish Boy there's a Nasty Shaigitz)
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Post by: William E. Lurie on August 04, 2004, 01:50:41 PM
Thanks for the IRMA answer Matt.  I don't know why the show has dropped out of sight in the US.  It's perfect for a revival and with one unit set and a cast of 14 it would not be that expensive to do.  It's one show where the book and the score are both good, and I can think of several of today's Broadway performers who could be easily cast in it (although most of them are not ticket-selling names to the general public, but then neither were Elizabeth Seal, Keith Michel and Clive Revil in 1960).
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Post by: Matt H. on August 04, 2004, 02:07:27 PM
I've put in THE CHEAP DETECTIVE for watching tonight before RENO 911! That nutty little show is definitely one of my guilty pleasures.

I like THE CHEAP DETECTIVE, but I don't think it's as funny as MURDER BY DEATH.
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Post by: Matt H. on August 04, 2004, 02:09:08 PM
WEL, IRMA is not done by amateur groups any more either. I've been pushing for it to be taken up by one of the community theaters around here for years (I've been pushing THE RINK, too, without success).
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Post by: George on August 04, 2004, 02:15:48 PM
"Ragtime" jumps first to mind. Also "1776" and "Shenandoah".

Then one of my favorite "musical shows" is one in which "music" plays a starring role, but none is performed on-stage - "Amadeus".

der Brucer (who thinks throwing animated films like "Hunchback of Notre Dame" into the mix might be interesting)

Der Brucer, have you heard the German cast recording of Hunchback?  I don't speak any German (even though my mother is German) and I love it.  Just listening to the songs and seeing the pictures (and NOT having "cute" gargoyles) really makes me think that this could be such a great show in English...if Disney would let them end it with Quasimodo and Esmerelda dying.  From what I have been told, that's how Menken and Schwartz ended the stage version.

And Good Luck to DR Ann's sister and Congratulations to DR (Uncle Again) Stuart!
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Post by: George on August 04, 2004, 02:18:55 PM
And Welcome, New D(ear) R(eader) Brandon!
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Post by: DERBRUCER on August 04, 2004, 02:19:27 PM
(I've been pushing THE RINK, too, without success).

So, you want to do Chita or Liza?
(Or is it Rita or Liza?)

der casting director Brucer
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Post by: Jane on August 04, 2004, 02:37:03 PM
Ann I just had a thought.  Are the police looking for finger prints in the car that might not match your family and friend’s?
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Post by: DERBRUCER on August 04, 2004, 03:18:11 PM
PG is also one of my favorite musicals

Oh the pain, oh the shame! I got conned into being in the cast of PG in a little theatre production in Key West - my primary (and only) qualification for the part was the inability to say a very form NO!.

Interview:

Q. Have you ever been in a Musical?
A. No

Q. Can you sing.
A. No

Q Can you dance?
A. No

Q Are you willing to try?
A. I'd try anything

YOUR HIRED!

Now I could get away with the "Once A Year Day" number - that was a polka, a dance cultured gentlemen learned in school or at the country club.

The "Steam Heat" number was another story. Now I know my left foot from my right foot - years in the military made left-right second nature. It seems however that ersatz Fosse choreography and stiff, formal, military precision are not kissin' cousins. It's "Left, Right, Left Right" - and it refers to FEET! It is not "Left, left, front, back, right, left, right, right left, left, thrust" -and it does not refer to HIPS! There was no way that poor director was going to undo six years of rigorous military drill with 2 weeks screaming "Loosen up for Chrisakes!" at dance rehearsal.

Of course, I never learn. I still fell for the "Nobody else will even try - are you afraid?" pitch when I was cast as Mordred in "Camelot". My dancing was crap, but my Arrogant, Snotty, Ungrateful, Scheming Bastard was right on. "The Seven Deadly Virtues" was a song I could sing from the heart!

Little did I know that "Arrogant, Scheming Bastards" were in demand. I got a call to please come read for a part at California's First Theatre (which does classic "Perils of Pauline Dramas" from the late Nineteenth Century). I showed up at the appointed hour, was handed a script and was told to read the part of  >:((Sneering Villain who prompts lots of Boos and has to duck flying peanuts from the audience). I noticed that the director kept running different damsels in distress through the heroine parts, but I kept reading Sir Nasty. As I learned at the end of the evening, the director had seen my Mordred and had (without asking) pre-cast me for the part. When I found out that this "Great Honor" entailed shows Thursday thru Sunday for 12 weeks and my reward was all the peanuts I could catch, I took a bye.

I've never been able to get a part I’ve wanted, and I've always been pre-cast in shows I didn't originally consider doing. I tried out for the Burton part in "Night of the Iguana" - I read the part really well, but -well, you've seen my rosy cheeked college pictures. No way says the Director - but stick around, I think I'll have something for you this summer. Thus was my casting-without-try-out as Capt. Fisby in "Teahouse of the August Moon". Try for Burton and end up as Glenn Ford ::sigh::

Now my chance for Dramatic Glory are gone (of course if BK wants to play an aging Jerry, I could sure enjoy stabbing him as Peter). I might still be able to pull off Harold Ryan in "Happy Birthday Wanda June":

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PENELOPE:.. This is a simple minded play about men who enjoy killing, and men who don't.

HAROLD: I am Harold Ryan , her husband. I have killed perhaps two hundred men in wars of various sorts -- as a professional soldier. I have killed thousands of other animals as well -- for sport.

Yes - bring on the scenery!

Oh well - there's still Sheridan Whiteside :-*

der Brucer
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on August 04, 2004, 03:29:26 PM
Okay, Jay.

Your "time out" has been successfully completed.
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Post by: DERBRUCER on August 04, 2004, 03:52:45 PM
Der Brucer, have you heard the German cast recording of Hunchback?  I don't speak any German (even though my mother is German) and I love it.  Just listening to the songs and seeing the pictures (and NOT having "cute" gargoyles) really makes me think that this could be such a great show in English...if Disney would let them end it with Quasimodo and Esmerelda dying.  From what I have been told, that's how Menken and Schwartz ended the stage version.


Well, aren't you the trouble-maker >:(

I thought the stage version was "still in planning"!

A little googling turned up: Musical Schwartz (http://www.musicalschwartz.com/the-hunchback-review1.htm) which posts:

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Thoughts on Disney's German Cast Recording
 
by Edward R. Cox

The highest compliment for the musical art form, IMHO (in my humble opinion), is when another artform embraces it and creates a satisfying experience. Such was the case of Disney's The Hunchback of Notre Dame. The highest compliment for both of these, is for the animated feature to be rethought, and presented live on the musical stage, the original home for such works. With it's soul soaring melodies by award-winning Alan Menkin (Little Shop of Horrors, The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin), and perfectly matched character-driven lyrics by Stephen Schwartz (Godspell, Pippin, Children of Eden, Prince of Egypt), this version of the classic tale by Victor Hugo, finally gave singing voice to characters and situations that have been embraced the world over.


[More detail, song list, and some lyrics are on this very nice site.]

Now you have my whistle whetted, and I want to hear the German Version. HA! Out-of Stock!

Now have it pre-ordered used from Ms Amazon - we shall see.

der Brucer (who suspects that the Wagnerian tenor of the work plays well in German)
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on August 04, 2004, 04:39:38 PM
Man!  When the lulls hit, they hit hard!

Work day's over.

Time to go home now!
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Post by: Jane on August 04, 2004, 04:50:42 PM
Poor RLP out there alone and I can't stay to visit.  I must feed Bogie.  At least you get to home home now. :)
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Post by: Panni on August 04, 2004, 05:02:23 PM
I don't get to go home when the day ends - I AM home. Therefore I never get to finish working. Sigh...
(The good part is that if in the middle of the day I feel like going out for a walk or an ice cream or simply lying down and reading a book - I CAN.)
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Post by: DERBRUCER on August 04, 2004, 05:05:01 PM
I don't get to go home when the day ends - I AM home. Therefore I never get to finish working. Sigh...
(The good part is that if in the middle of the day I feel like going out for a walk or an ice cream or simply lying down and reading a book - I CAN.)

Ah, but can you CAN-CAN?

der Brucer (with your aching back maybe you should save it for another day)
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Post by: DERBRUCER on August 04, 2004, 05:28:43 PM
My, oh my -what wonderful seredipitous things we uncover while on HHW!

For a lark, I entered "Hungarina Frogs" in my serach engine, and voila:

(http://www.mediaguide.hu/happykids/frog.jpg)
There is a Hungarian Preschool called  Happy Kids (http://www.mediaguide.hu/happykids/indexEN.html)that has their own web site, and they have a class called:
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Funny Frogs
We have been having busy days in the Funny Frogs classroom. We are getting used to our daily routine and memorising each other's names - quite a big task ! We have Ami, Emi, Mason, Will, Erik, Zander, Martin, Dodo, Robi, Dávid and Kevin to remember every day!
We have been painting, gluing, playing with play-dough and puzzles. During circle time we read books and sing our morning songs. We have been enjoying the sunny days outside on the swing, see-saw and in the sandpit building sand castles!
We are looking forward to spend a fun-filled school year together.

Their teacher is:
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Réka Váradi

Hi! I am Réka Váradi  from Gyöngyös. I lived in the United States for almost 6 years. I received my degree in Elementary Education from D'Youville College, Buffalo, New York.

I have been working with children for almost 7 years and this is my 3rd year of teaching.

My favourite activities are: constructive language activities and drama with children. I am really looking forward to having a wonderful year with my Funny Frogs! In my free time I like running, reading and hiking.[/size]

The school describes itself:
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The „HAPPY KIDS” academic program is based on an international early childhood curriculum developed specifically for international schools worldwide.

In addition to the basic subjects we offer the teaching of both english and hungarian languages to native and non native speakers.

As information technology and the Internet become more and more an essential part of daily life – both at home and in the workplace – the use of computers and the Internet for the 21st century will be as common place as pen and paper.

Recognising this fact, each classroom has its own „technology center” using the latest age appropriate learning software and computer assisted language learning programs.  Children will not only see the computer but also be able to ue it as a daily part of their activity program.


These are some fortunate kids!
(http://www.mediaguide.hu/happykids/illustrations/Tigger.gif)
der world-traveling Brucer

(Maybe we need HHW internet penpals in far away places, with starnge sounding names)
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Post by: Panni on August 04, 2004, 05:52:36 PM
That sure doesn't sound like the Hungarian school I went to in Budapest. I have a class photo and the teacher looks like the ugly sister of the Wicked Witch of the West. She acted like her, too. I remember an incident once at nap time... During nap time one was not to move or speak -- OR ELSE. (This was during the Communist era - so I'm sure if you broke the rule you'd be sent to the Baby Gulag.) Well, I NEVER napped as a child. What a waste of time! So I would pull the cover of my little sleeping bag over my head so the Witch thought I was sleeping - and I would make up stories in my head and play with the barrettes from my hair. Well, one day I made the mistake of putting one of these barrettes in my mouth -- and I accidentally swallowed it. I started to choke. But to make a noise or ask for help was not an option as far as I was concerned. So I used all the willpower I possessed to stay calm -- and I stuck my hand as far as it would go down my throat and retrieved the barrette! (Lucky that I've always had small hands.) I think had I not been able to do that, they would have found me quite dead after nap time. And no Panni would be here to post.
...You and your Hungarian Frogs, DB!
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Post by: Jane on August 04, 2004, 06:03:04 PM
Another great story by Panni! :)
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Post by: Michael on August 04, 2004, 06:03:04 PM
Okay here are some other musical winners vs losers

The Sound of Music and Fiorello or Gypsy
Two Gentlemen of Verona or Follies
Man of La Mancha or Sweet Charity or Mame
1776 or Promises Promises
A Chorus Line or Chicago
Ain't Misbehavin or On the 20th Century
Nine or Dreamgirls
Cats or Merlin
La Cage Aux Folles or Sunday in the Park With George
City of Angeles or Grand Hotel
Crazy For You or Falsettos
Passion or Beauty and the Beast
The Lion King or Ragtime
Fosse or Parade
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Post by: Michael on August 04, 2004, 06:07:25 PM
First Brit Musical was Oliver! and I acted in that one. But this first Brit musicals had to be The Mikado with the Doyle Carte Opera Company. Then there were Canadian musicals like Anne of Green Gables, Cruel Tears (a country western take on Othello set in the Prairies), Billy Bishop Goes to War, Quebecois translated version of Les Miserables, A Michel Trembley musical whose name I forget at the moment,
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Post by: Michael on August 04, 2004, 06:09:36 PM
Question for BK: When a song is "licensed" for inclusion on another recording (Liz Callaway's A Place Called Home on a Jaimie Le Roy) are they allowed to remix or do any changes to it and are there supposed to be any financial compensation?
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Post by: Michael on August 04, 2004, 06:12:24 PM
For anyone else:

Does anyone know if the DVD release of The Owl and The Pussycat is the original version released to the theaters or the edited version done for the release. In other words does it have the line. Do me a favour fellas and just f**k off!"
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Post by: Michael on August 04, 2004, 06:16:00 PM
PAGE SIX DANCE

(http://www.whatonearthcatalog.com/graphics/products/regular/AM3562.jpg)
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Post by: Sandra on August 04, 2004, 06:19:48 PM
My question of the day is: Where in the Sam Hill are DRs Jason and Kerry?? Whatever is keeping them away from HHW lately, I hope it is something good and not something bad!

Dear Reader Kerry told me that every time he tried to sign in to this site, he would get an error message and he couldn't sign in.

My friend Sarah showed me around ASU today so that I won't get completely lost when I start classes there. She told me about some of the school's quirks. Like the fire alarm-type bell that goes off in the English building from time to time for no apparent reason. And the elevator that takes you to the fifth floor no matter what button you push.
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on August 04, 2004, 06:26:30 PM
A great story and a scarey one, Panni.  I can't help but think that you did the right thing in more ways than one.  Mrs. Crabtree might have mistaken any call for help you made for disobediance and wasted valuable time chastising you to lie back down.  I always found this kind of instinctive self-reliance in children to be an amazing thing.
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Post by: Jane on August 04, 2004, 06:28:57 PM
Sandra when does school begin?  Are you getting excited?  Will you still live at home?
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Post by: Sandra on August 04, 2004, 06:37:21 PM
School starts on the 23rd. I'm not sure that "excited" is the right word for it. All in all, I would prefer to sit around at home and watch cartoons instead of going to school, but my dad says that that's not an option. I'm still going to live at home and mooch off my parents as much as I can. ASU is only a few miles from the house.
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Post by: Michael on August 04, 2004, 07:11:24 PM
Another question:
For Ask BK Day another question

Who made the decision what artist would appear and would not appear on the Elegies Concert cd?

Same thing with the STAGE recordings was anyone left off and why>
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Post by: Jane on August 04, 2004, 07:29:15 PM
Sandra I think it is wonderful you live at home and have school so close.  Enjoy yourself.
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Post by: S. Woody White on August 04, 2004, 08:18:44 PM
By the way, this is Brandon, the lighting technician and sound board op for the show.  Hi to you all.
Hello, Brandon!
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Post by: Matt H. on August 04, 2004, 08:18:45 PM
After finishing THE CHEAP DETECTIVE (nice transfer), I popped in the last THIN MAN movie on laserdisc, SONG OF THE THIN MAN.

Still pining over the lack of the other THIN MANs on DVD.
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Post by: Matt H. on August 04, 2004, 08:20:14 PM
For anyone else:

Does anyone know if the DVD release of The Owl and The Pussycat is the original version released to the theaters or the edited version done for the release. In other words does it have the line. Do me a favour fellas and just f**k off!"

I have the DVD, but I haven't watched it yet, so I can't answer your question. Perhaps I'll pull that one off the to-watch shelf and watch it tomorrow.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on August 04, 2004, 08:21:36 PM
Have been home three hours.  Miss Vickie has been feed and praised and made a fuss over and is now napping contentedly.

I've cooked and eaten and cleaned up, which is essentially as satisfying as having a fuss made over me.  I should love to nap contentedly but will wait a couple of hours.

I've been waiting longer and longer between pain med dosages.  I've been doing half-doses the past week and a half, and I've been as long as 12 hours between doses, but the result is that I can feel how much of my arm will need to be rehabbed, restrengthened, etc.  Nerve twinges and deep aches are very much present.  I shall get used to them, eventually, but not when I don't have to.

Sigh.

I feel like a lot of Bacharach for my evening music period.  Anyone "else" out there extra fond of B.J. Thomas' rendition of "Everybody's Out of Town"?
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on August 04, 2004, 08:22:37 PM
DR Panni: Don't sell working at home short.  It's an adjustment I'd love to make.
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Post by: Panni on August 04, 2004, 08:28:32 PM
I like working at hom, RLP. It would be difficult for me to adjust to a "real job." But I do sometimes miss having people around. My fondest work memories are of the days when I was head writer on a sitcom (three different ones, actually) and I got to sit around all day and into the nights and make jokes and yell -- I was the only woman writer, and the youngest, so I had to yell to be heard. It was very hard work and enormous fun.
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Post by: Panni on August 04, 2004, 08:29:46 PM
*****Healing vibes to your arm, RLP!*****
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Post by: S. Woody White on August 04, 2004, 08:34:19 PM
Those who've read Kritzer Time know very well what my first non US musical was: Stop the World.  
Well, this counts as an oops.

On both our parts.  Or maybe all three.

I've been reading Kritzer Time, but haven't finished it.  I can explain: I've been reading the book ALOUD to der Brucer whenever we've been on long(ish) car trips.  And we've both been enjoying the book, very much, and very together.

The problem is, reading aloud is not as speedy as reading to oneself.  That, and der B has this habit of interrupting.  He'll either want something explained (for which I have to go back and find an earlier reference for the explanation, or have to confess "I don't know yet," which leaves him frustrated), or he will launch into a memory of his own, sparked by the book.  This is very interesting, but does not make for speedy reading.

Only now, der B. has fetched the book out of the car, and leafed through the parts we haven't reached yet, to find the reference der BK has mentioned.  Now I don't know what der B. has discovered, and what he hasn't.  Which is going to make reading the book to him all that much more complicated.  It will be like reading a book to Billy Pilgrim (a Kurt Vonnegut reference).

 :-\

Note: Good news: there isn't that much further to go.  Especially if der B keeps his questions to himself.  But he never does.  

 :-\ :-\
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Post by: S. Woody White on August 04, 2004, 08:55:58 PM
Answering my own question, I was about to claim that my first non-American musical, seen onstage, was Evita.  Der Brucer took me to see it, as produced by the Long Beach Civic Light Opera, within weeks after we first met.  My complaint was that it hewed too closely to the Hal Prince production, and that there were probably other ways of presenting the show on-stage.  (This came from my original familiarity with the show from the original concept album, starring Julie Covington.)

But, I've had to reconsider this answer.  There was a major trio of musicals that I saw at Fresno State, when I was a student there: Stop The World..., Oliver!, and The Threepenny Opera.

The problem with Stop the World... is that you have to have a damn good Littlechap, or the whole enterprise falls flat.  What I saw was one guy on stage, sorta all right, surrounded by lovely women in the chorus, who got to do very little since the show was all about Littlechap.  The writing of the show worked (and it was a damn good concept musical, a decade before the concept musical became accepted by the press as the new way to do musicals), but the acting I saw was not quite there.

Oliver! was good, but hard for a college drama department to pull off, mainly because of the large troupe of young boys required.  I suppose they could have done the show with fraternity pledges as the orphans, but that would have been a little too inside, and over the heads for most frat brats.

Threepenny Opera is the most classic show of the three, I feel.  And Fresno State gave it a good production.  The only real flaw was the lighting, of all things, as I've since read that Brecht liked to use flat, bright white lighting, and this production's lighting designer was trying very hard to get a good grade, showing all his skills in different lighting techniques, and gelled the show all over the place.  Other than that, everything in the show was very true, and very well done.
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Post by: S. Woody White on August 04, 2004, 09:03:26 PM
And now I have a question for BK and everybody else:
What IS it with the five-and-a-half octave range claim?  The entire canon of opera music, from basso profundo to coluratura, only encompasses about four and a half octaves.  So how is it that Jessica Simpson's father/manager can claim that she has a five-and-a-half octave range?  If she can go from a C below middle C to the C above high C, that would be an extremely wide range, and possible (although it wouldn't be pretty), but that is only four octaves.  It is just not possible, and even if it WAS possible, she would never record anything that encompassed that range.   Not even close.  The widest range any pop singer, excluding Mariah  Carey with her whistle tones, is probably about two and a half.  So what gives?
This explains the "No Dogs Allowed" clause in the contracts for Jessica Simpson's concert apperarances.  The howling would be too much competition.
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Post by: td on August 04, 2004, 09:08:11 PM
Dear Reader Michael Shayne - THE OWL AND THE PUSSYCAT, despite posessing a purrfect print, is indeed the F**k-less edition.
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Post by: S. Woody White on August 04, 2004, 09:11:06 PM
I hang my head in shame, DRs. It turns out that I had the date wrong. Abie's birthday is on August 14th NOT the 4th. :P
AHA! Abie's birthday is during Birthday Week!  (Der Brucer's is August 8th, mine the 17th, the week between is what we call "Birthday Week," and it's amazing how many friends/acquaintances of ours have their birthdays during that time!  Abie being one of them just makes life more complete.)
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Post by: MBarnum on August 04, 2004, 09:13:41 PM
I am sorry to report that actress Virginia Grey passed away on Saturday.

DRs JRand53, TD, and Robin are all likely very familiar with her as she starred in many 1940s Universal horrors, 1950s low budget sci-fi, and 50s/60s Ross Hunter soapers.

Jane Wyman and Virginia Grey in ALL THAT HEAVEN ALLOWS.

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Post by: S. Woody White on August 04, 2004, 09:18:26 PM
Btw, in the paper today there is an article about grilling fruits.  It says peaches are really good to try.  Now I must do this.
I'm now picturing Joe Friday and Bill Gannon playing bad cop/good cop with "Peaches," demanding she tell them everything she knows about Harry the Horseradish, and where she gets that shade of lipstick because the wife would sure love it.
Title: Re:EXTRA WHIPPED CREAM
Post by: Panni on August 04, 2004, 09:43:04 PM
That's it. Enough work for today. I'm winding down by eating peanuts and watching Frank Sinatra sing as he smokes up a storm. How times have changed!
Title: Re:EXTRA WHIPPED CREAM
Post by: td on August 04, 2004, 09:53:33 PM
I am sorry to report that actress Virginia Grey passed away on Saturday.

DRs JRand53, TD, and Robin are all likely very familiar with her as she starred in many 1940s Universal horrors, 1950s low budget sci-fi, and 50s/60s Ross Hunter soapers.



http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/variety/20040803/va_mi/virginia_grey_1 (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/variety/20040803/va_mi/virginia_grey_1)
Title: Re:EXTRA WHIPPED CREAM
Post by: S. Woody White on August 04, 2004, 10:06:42 PM
Not for nothing folks, but I am an uncle again.  DP John's sister-in-law just gave birth to Kate Marie.

The first girl in a family of 4 sons (of which my DP is one) and 3 nephews, spread over two of the 4 brothers.

Boy is she gonna be spoiled!

Can I start shopping for prom dresses for her now?
It's amazing how you both are gonna wear the same size!  Especially in mink!
Title: Re:EXTRA WHIPPED CREAM
Post by: S. Woody White on August 04, 2004, 10:17:04 PM
Now my chance for Dramatic Glory are gone...I might still be able to pull off Harold Ryan in "Happy Birthday Wanda June...
If you play Harold Ryan, can I play "Looseleaf" Harper?
Title: Re:EXTRA WHIPPED CREAM
Post by: bk on August 04, 2004, 10:47:57 PM
I'm back - tired, and must eat something, then I shall post up a veritible frenzy.

Michael Shayne: Licensing - no they can't "remix" or make changes to the track.  I don't think Jamie had to pay, I think I just gave it to her, but I can't remember.  Sometimes, though, there is definitely remuneration.  

The decision on the STAGE benefits as to who makes and doesn't make the CD is pretty much mine, although I consult with David Galligan about it.  Sometimes it's for sound reasons, bad sound, etc., sometimes it's for performance reasons.  And, of course, for time reasons.  Can't remember about Elegies, but I think Bill Russell and I consulted about it.
Title: Re:EXTRA WHIPPED CREAM
Post by: bk on August 04, 2004, 10:53:56 PM
Here's a photo of our cast rehearsing onstage at the Hudson Theater.
Title: Re:EXTRA WHIPPED CREAM
Post by: Panni on August 04, 2004, 10:59:05 PM
Are they singing "Happy Days are Here Again"...?
Title: Re:EXTRA WHIPPED CREAM
Post by: Panni on August 04, 2004, 11:21:06 PM
I'm having trouble getting up from my desk. Too tired. Maybe I can just sleep here.
Title: Re:EXTRA WHIPPED CREAM
Post by: Panni on August 04, 2004, 11:22:03 PM
A frenzy of one. ...And one for Mahler!
Title: Re:EXTRA WHIPPED CREAM
Post by: Panni on August 04, 2004, 11:26:15 PM
Just got around to opening all my mail. Received my first 2005 charity calendar. I'm not even used to 2004!