Haines His Way
Archives => Archive 2 => Topic started by: bk on August 27, 2004, 11:59:34 PM
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Well, you've read the notes, because wild horses couldn't keep you from reading them, and now wild horses cannot possibly prevent you from posting until the wild cows come home.
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My wild horses are calling me to bed. I got to bed around 3 last night and was up at 6. Three hours isn't enough - even for me.
Natalie Wood was in so many wonderful movies - it's hard to choose. I'll start with an early one -- MIRACLE ON 34TH STREET.
THE SEARCHERS (not because of her in particular, but because it's a great movie)
MARJORIE MORNINGSTAR
SPLENDOR IN THE GRASS
WEST SIDE STORY
GYPSY
LOVE WITH A PROPER STRANGER
INSIDE DAISY CLOVER
I don't know how BOB & CAROL & TED & ALICE would stand up today, so I'l reserve judgment.
I know I've picked too many, but I like them all, so live with it!
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"Two For the Seesaw" (I hope!). Don't really know that much but do like the theme from Valley Of the Dolls thanks to Dionne Warwick.
For Natalie - "WSS" and "Gypsy".
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Two for the Seesaw is a wonderful score and features one of Previn's most beautiful melodies - Second Chance.
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Good Evening! Good Morning!
Yes indeedee it was a great show tonight/last night! It was kind of scary just how many of the jokes they got - at least to me. And I've also started to decipher some of the various laughs. There's the good ole, "Oh that was funny!" laugh. Then there's the "Oh, I remember seeing that show!" laugh. And then there's the "Oh, I was IN that show!" laugh - it has a touch of fondness to it. ;)
As for Natalie Wood movies and Andre Previn scores.. Ditto. :P
*But I did recently hear his new violin concerto entitled, "Anne-Sophie," which was written for his new wife - and violinist - Anne-Sophie Mutter. Quite a nice piece of music.
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And I have to Thank DR Panni - a.k.a. Anna - for the wonderful birthday goodie bag she presented to me after the show. Smile upon smile!
-And her friend, Bernard Rothman, also was very kind and complimentary. He called me an "orchestra"! :)
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You're quite welcome, DR Jose! And you ARE an orchestra.
I'm amazed to lean, BTW, of the marriage of Anna-Sophie and Andre. I had no idea! Nobody told me. I wasn't invited. Skammen.
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You're quite welcome, DR Jose! And you ARE an orchestra.
I'm amazed to lean, BTW, of the marriage of Anna-Sophie and Andre. I had no idea! Nobody told me. I wasn't invited. Skammen.
I was hoping to get you in time if it was Bernie, to tell you to hello from me and my father (Who goes way back with him to his Montreal days)
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As for Mr. Andre (with the accent) Previn it is funny but I never thought of him really as a film composer along the lines of Herman, Roza, Mancini, Williams, Goldsmith, Bernstein etc etc despite all the wonderful work that he has done over the years,
It is shocking to think that he hasn't written a new score for film since 1974 and his last theatrical venture was the opera A Streetcar Named Desire.
Also the fact that he started to work in movies in 1948 when he was just 19 years old at MGM. He was able to conduct or score some of the great "A List" musicals and dramatic films at MGM including:
The Secret Garden 1948
Three Little Words
Small Town Girl
Kiss Me Kate
Bad Day At Black Rock
It's Always Fair Weather
Kismet
Invitation to the Dance
Silk Stockings
Designing Woman
Gigi
Bells Are Ringing
and after MGM
Porgy and Bess
My Fair Lady
He seemed to be the favorite of many well known directors.
and worked with Billy Wilder on
Irma La Douce
One, Two, Three
Kiss Me Stupid
The Fortune Cookie
and worked wirh Vincent Minnelli after MGM
Goodbye Charlie
The Four Men of the Apocalypse
and George Syndey
Pepe
Who Was That Lady
The Swinger
And don't forget his collaborator on allthose wonderful 60's film songs with Dory Previn from such films as
Pepe
Inside Daisy Clover
Harper
The Swinger
and one without Andre
Come Saturday Morning.
It seemed that after Andre left Dory for Mia Farrow she never worked in movies again!
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I am also partial to the new songs he co-wrote for Paint Your Wagon: Gold Fever, A Million Miles Away Behind the Door, Gold Fever. (Previ didn't score this film)
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As for Natalie Wood the films I actually saw her in and enjoyed her performance (and not necessarily the movie itself)
As a child:
Tomorrow Is For Ever
Miracle on 34th Street
As a Teenager
Rebel Without a Cause
The Searchers
As an Adult
Marjorie Morningstar
West Side Story
Gypsy
The Great Race
Cat on a Hot Tin Roof
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And oh btw despite his name Andre Previn. He is actually German and not French! The things you find out!!!
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I like Natalie's teen angst movies:
SPLENDOR IN THE GRASS
REBEL WITHOUT A CAUSE
(I also really like WILLIE & PHIL, but, you can hardly call it a Natalie Wood movie!)
I'm very fond of SEX AND THE SINGLE GIRL, and I'm almost certain I'm the minority on that one.
THE GREAT RACE, imho, contains her finest comedy work, and she looks positively dreamy in the period costumes.
WEST SIDE STORY
GYPSY
INSIDE DAISY CLOVER, more for her early scenes with Ruth Gordon, than with the stiff Robert Redford.
It's early here, I know tomovoz; it's LATE there. . .but I'm sure as the day progresses, I'll think of others that I'm terrifically fond of.
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Oh my.....I hear wild horses!!!
I am watching WILD IN THE STREETS on DVD! At last! THE APPLE is calling me as well...and I will be buying it this week, DRtd.
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There was a documentary on Andre Previn on either Ovation or Trio a couple of months ago, and it covered his entire career. I was dismayed to find he thinks so little of his Hollywood years and his work there despite three Oscars, loads of nominations, and a handful of classics to his name.
My favorite score of his is INSIDE DAISY CLOVER, and I think his arrangements and music direction are superb for PORGY AND BESS despite what the Gershwin estate thinks. I still think that single LP of soundtrack highlights is the best single disc PORGY AND BESS ever made.
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Oh my....Natalie Wood....and Andre Previn... ;D
My favorites have already been mentioned....but that never stopped me before.
Previn scores: Valley of the Dolls, Inside Daisy Clover, Dead Ringer (which is a terrific LP).
But if I have to choose one.....music to match the images and emotions....I go with THE FOUR HORSEMEN OF THE APOCALYPSE...all those grand themes and emotions.... It's wonderful!!!
Natalie Wood movie...West Side Story of course and Inside Daisy Clover....but not her "comedies."
My favorite: MARJORIE MORNINGSTAR with lovely clothes a wonderful Max Steiner score, stunning photography....a young girl struggling to find herself thinking about becoming an actress and falling for the WRONG man. Natalie is so beautiful! Whew!
She loves Noel Airman but finally decides to marry......
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Oh my.....I hear wild horses!!!
I am watching WILD IN THE STREETS on DVD! At last! THE APPLE is calling me as well...and I will be buying it this week, DRtd.
I watched THE APPLE's dvd late last night! What more can I possibly say? ? ?
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I just love Natalie Wood period. I've always found her an interesting presence in a movie, and she's often been undervalued as an actress. (The Harvard Lampoon named its Worst Actress movie prize after her, most unfairly, I think.)
I swing back and forth on her best performance. Perhaps because I viewed it recently, I think GYPSY is her finest movie work, but then I'll see LOVE WITH THE PROPER STRANGER and swing back to it. INSIDE DAISY CLOVER, SPLENDOR IN THE GRASS, and MARJORIE MORNINGSTAR are other top favorites.
I think GYPSY is so remarkable because of her physical transformation. The way she's made up to look tomboyish and frumpy, and by the time of that strip sequence and afterward, she's this RAVISHING beauty, well, it's just breathtaking. What other top star of the time could have done this? Plus, I think her acting is also exceptional, and the meltdown sequence with Rose in the dressing room prior to "Rose's Turn" has never been done better by any actress that I've ever seen, and I've seen GYPSY probably 20 times with 20 different amateur and professional actresses doing the role.
In NATASHA, it's revealed that she loathed making THE GREAT RACE and hated her work in it. Boy, I didn't! I think she's hilarious, looks smashing, and even with Jackie Ward's singing voice on "The Sweetheart Tree," sitting on that bank, strumming that guitar and singing is just about as beautiful a moment as a movie comedy has provided us. (Was Blake Edwards doing a little satire on his Hepburn-guitar sequence from TIFFANY'S?)
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Morning folks,
Would you believe I can't find my copy of that book cover? I have a pile of back up disks because the old computer kept saying the hard drive was going to crash. But I think (therefore I am confused) it may have been even further back than that--the computer before the last computer. Like I said, it was so long ago. When nothing came of it I forgot all about it until yesterday. Oh well. I will scan it when I get my copy and then I shall share it will all of you. :)
I did my good deed for today already. I was able to help a friend out with her home computer. Ahh, the mysteries of having two CD drives. The confusion when one of them writes/reads CDs and the other one is just a reader. I had to explain that if you put a blank CD into the reader, it is NOT going to have anything written to it until/unless you put it in the drive that writes. And no, the computer didn't have anything wrong with it. ;)
I'm so glad to hear that you had a sold out house last night and again tonight! Wow, it sure didn't take long for word to get around about the best show in town!
I have a question: If you do take What If to NYC, how long would that take? Would it be right away or would it take a few months? Say springtime? March/April/May?
Everyone already picked my favorite Natalie Wood movies so I don't have any to add.
Say a prayer for me today. I am going to get my hair trimmed/(gasp!) cut. I might come back with a totally different do. I hate short hair but I’m thinking I need a change.
I don't have any wild horses to hold. Will wild dogs do? They want to go walkies so to walkies I must go.
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I think West Side Story, Splendor in the Grass and Gypsy are wonderful films. The sort of films that, if you're flicking around your TV dial and catch them, you stay and watch more. It's been years since I've seen Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice but I've high regard for a lot of early Mazursky.
I'm not so fond of Previn as a composer. But please note I know him better from his songwriting than his film scoring. The title song of Coco has always reminded me of the theme song of Flipper. Once. I attended a wedding in which he was father-of-the-groom. It was the sort of big wedding where people said "Well, this marriage will never last." We were right.
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...and I think [Previn's] arrangements and music direction are superb for PORGY AND BESS despite what the Gershwin estate thinks. I still think that single LP of soundtrack highlights is the best single disc PORGY AND BESS ever made.
Have you heard the old RCA recording of great scenes from P & B, Dear Reader Matt H.? Led by Mr. Skitch Henderson, it features Miss Leontyne Price and Mr. William Warfield and is the best sung P & B I have ever heard.
Miss Price takes on music for not only Bess, but also Clara and Serena, thereby providing a moment on the album during which Miss Price engages in dialogue with herself.
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I LOVE the title song from COCO and quite a few other numbers from that show.
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I was hoping to get you in time if it was Bernie, to tell you to hello from me and my father (Who goes way back with him to his Montreal days)
I can still tell him. (And I will.)
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No, DR Jay, I have not heard that P&B disc, but as much admiration as I have for Ms. Price and Mr. Warfield (who were married at the time of their famous PORGY tour), I'm not sure I want her voice on ALL the soprano solos.
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Question: Is there some way to access old posts (Aug 12)?
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No, DR Jay, I have not heard that P&B disc, but as much admiration as I have for Ms. Price and Mr. Warfield (who were married at the time of their famous PORGY tour), I'm not sure I want her voice on ALL the soprano solos.
Do hunt it down, DR MattH. It is quite a thrilling recording.
And, for the record, I am such a fan of Miss Price that had she taken on Porgy and Crown in addition to the three female leads, I'd have been all the happier.
;D
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Question: Is there some way to access old posts (Aug 12)?
It's easy. (Oh. A sort of Anyone Can Whistle reference.) Click on the "Home" button (above and below the posts string you are looking at right now) and then click on the "Daily Discussions" link. Scroll to your date of choice. There are multiple pages of dates of posts, as there are multiple pages of posts within a single day, but August 12th should be on the same page as the link to today's posts.
(Edited to add in a step I inadvertently omitted in the initial post.)
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Good morning all...and Robin too! He's baaaaack! Welcome back Robin, we have missed you! Now post something so that we know you are OK!
Favorite Natalie Wood's...I loved SEX AND THE SINGLE GIRL when I was a tike...haven't seen it in about 30 years. MIRACLE ON 34TH STREET, REBEL WITHOUT A CAUSE.
favorite Andre Previn scores: I like just about everthing of his that I have heard...CAUSE FOR ALARM comes to mind and of course VALLEY OF THE DOLLS.
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Are those wild horses succeeding in keeping you lovely people out there in the dark from posting up a storm? Skammen.
Good Previn choices. Good Wood choices. I love Natalie in West Side Story and Gypsy and Daisy Clover, and she's wonderful in Love with the Proper Stranger. She's also very cute in The Great Race and Sex and the Single Girl. My favorite Previn musical score adaptation is Bells are Ringing - really wonderful. His work on Gigi (I think that's him) is great, too. I don't like his work on My Fair Lady quite as much.
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Thanks for the info, Jay.
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I'm listening, on-line, to a recent BBC radio broadcast interview with Andrew Lloyd Webber
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/
Click on 'Listen Again' and in the BBC Radio Player choose 'Lloyd
Webber'.
Intriguingly, it makes one think much more highly of the composer, since he seems to have a refreshing take on his success. He considers Phantom to be "a bit of hokum" and knows he's often been very lucky. It's the first of a two-part interview (the second hasn't been broadcast yet) and I'm looking forward to the next, since it will cover the scores of his I'm less familiar with: The Beautiful Game, Whistle Down the Wind, and, maybe, the new one.
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Question: Is there some way to access old posts (Aug 12)?
yes Scroll up to the top of the page. Click on the hyperlink for column archives and then count backwards. They don;t go by date but by name of the bk notes for that day
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MIRACLE ON 34TH STREET
LOVE WITH A PROPER STRANGER
THE GREAT RACE
SEX AND THE SINGLE GIRL
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David Pascucci sings and plays 10 songs by dory and andre previn.
1. Daisy (Instrumental)
2. You're Gonna Hear From Me
3. A Happy Song
4. The Circus Is A Wacky World
5. Daisy
6. Give A Little More
7. It's Impossible
8. Come Live With Me
9. I'll Plant My Own Tree
10. Theme from Valley of the Dolls
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It was released on the LML label (Lee Lessack's label that BK has a couple of CDs out on)
If it sounds interesting to you
http://www.lmlmusic.com/artists/pas_recordings.htm (http://www.lmlmusic.com/artists/pas_recordings.htm)
You can go to the site and listen to some excerpts and then buy it if you like it.
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Belated page 2 dance
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I'd thought of buying it but was warned off it by a dear reader who said it was dreadful.
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And one for Strauss
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Michael Shayne - You wanted a reprint of my WHAT IF? opening night "review" post. I just looked it up. As I say in the post, reviewing is not my thing. But for historical purposes, here she be:
(from Aug 12/04)
Back from WHAT IF?
The show was quite wonderful. Hilarious, touching, audacious, clever. You name it. The audience loved it.
I'm really not a great reviewer, so I'll leave it up to DR Jay who seems to be so much better at this sort of thing. The performers were terrific as was our very own Jose.
There were some very major celebrities in attendance. I won't rain on bk's parade (a WHAT IF? reference) - but I'll give a tantalizing clue. Sitting in the audience and enjoying the show immensely were two show business legends, each a star in his own right and also as partners in an iconic comedy routine.
I had a great time, as did DD and her BF. (I had to leave the party early because it was very crowded and close and I'm somewhat claustrophobic.)
A Huge congrats to bk.
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I'd thought of buying it but was warned off it by a dear reader who said it was dreadful.
It was me. But I don't know everything.
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Michael Shayne - You wanted a reprint of my WHAT IF? opening night "review" post. I just looked it up. As I say in the post, reviewing is not my thing. But for historical purposes, here she be: (from Aug 1204)
Back from WHAT IF?
The show was quite wonderful. Hilarious, touching, audacious, clever. You name it. The audience loved it.
I'm really not a great reviewer, so I'll leave it up to DR Jay who seems to be so much better at this sort of thing. The performers were terrific as was our very own Jose.
There were some very major celebrities in attendance. I won't rain on bk's parade (a WHAT IF? reference) - but I'll give a tantalizing clue. Sitting in the audience and enjoying the show immensely were two show business legends, each a star in his own right and also as partners in an iconic comedy routine.
I had a great time, as did DD and her BF. (I had to leave the party early because it was very crowded and close and I'm somewhat claustrophobic.)
A Huge congrats to bk.
Thanks I will put on the What If Review Page.
DONE!
You are under Billy Barnes and on top of Jack Klugman
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David Pascucci sings and plays 10 songs by dory and andre previn.
1. Daisy (Instrumental)
2. You're Gonna Hear From Me
3. A Happy Song
4. The Circus Is A Wacky World
5. Daisy
6. Give A Little More
7. It's Impossible
8. Come Live With Me
9. I'll Plant My Own Tree
10. Theme from Valley of the Dolls
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000060PAJ.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)
It was released on the LML label (Lee Lessack's label that BK has a couple of CDs out on)
If it sounds interesting to you
http://www.lmlmusic.com/artists/pas_recordings.htm (http://www.lmlmusic.com/artists/pas_recordings.htm)
You can go to the site and listen to some excerpts and then buy it if you like it.
I don't know David Pascucci personally, but he often comes to the piano bar I like to frequent in L.A. He comes on a night when the featured pianist is happy to share the microphone and he tends to sing somewhat unusual or obscure songs that are unfamiliar to me, though most of them are quite interesting.
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I'm trying to think of a Previn song I like, and I think I like I Like Myself. Also, You're Awful isn't. Awful, that is. You're Awful is not an awful song.
Maybe my antipathy towards Previn has something to do with films based on a couple of really good Broadway musicals. Both On the Town and Paint Your Wagon threw out some really wonderful stage songs and replaced them with some not-so-wonderful Previn songs. But, as I said, You're Awful ain't awful. But it's sure no Some Other Time!
At this particular moment, it's a whole lot easier for me to come up with Lloyd Webber songs I like: Gus the Theatre Cat, Surprisingly Good For You, most anything from Jesus Christ Superstar. I'm even appreciating his Oscar-winner, You Must Love Me, which you don't have to love, but you could like. Especially if you hear ALW's justification for it in his interview...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/
Click on 'Listen Again' and in the BBC Radio Player choose 'Lloyd
Webber'.
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There was a documentary on Andre Previn on either Ovation or Trio a couple of months ago, and it covered his entire career. I was dismayed to find he thinks so little of his Hollywood years and his work there despite three Oscars, loads of nominations, and a handful of classics to his name.
My favorite score of his is INSIDE DAISY CLOVER, and I think his arrangements and music direction are superb for PORGY AND BESS despite what the Gershwin estate thinks. I still think that single LP of soundtrack highlights is the best single disc PORGY AND BESS ever made.
He has made some terrible comments in his books about some of his finest movie scores, more or less relegating them to being fit only for the trash heap and admirable only to the tin-eared.
I think he had some atrocious experiences as a musician in Hollywood. It can be very demeaning and debasing for the true artist if the atmosphere surrounding his or her work isn't supportive of the creative process. When the studio system broke down and the studios' music departments were dismantled, a hierarchical structure vanished that had protected the artists for several decades. Virtually all the composers found themselves contracting as individuals to the various studios. And studios began losing their influence on the production of big films. The director became "auteur" whether he had the abilities to be "auteur" or not, and the only lines that could not be crossed were the budget lines....until Michael Cimino ruined that for everyone with "Heaven's Gate" and brought down a major studio (United Artists).
So, Previn was at his peak during the period when he was being contracted for his services and given limited time to do his work and being made responsible for scheduling recording time, etc., etc. I think he was fairly demoralized by the time the classical arena opened up to him and he hasn't truly gotten over it. How could any composer enjoy his work if the people giving it the thumbs up or thumbs down don't know a minor chord from a trill? (I know there have been exceptions...and I am certain it comes down to artistic sensitivity -- how sensitive a soul is and whether one can develop a thick enough skin about one's creativity).
Sad to say, none of his "original" work since his last film score has even remotely measured up to his finest film work. The most interesting music in his opera "A Streetcar Named Desire" are the cues for scene transitions...and they sound like they could have easily been taken from his scores to "Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse" or "Dead Ringer."
I, of course, cannot say that about "Anne-Sophie" as I've not heard it yet. But I do remember the PBS "Previn and the Pittsburgh" shows, and the most memorable among them were the shows that featured film music (for me, at any rate!). In one, he had as his guest Miklos Rozsa...and you could see the adoration Previn held for Rozsa, who was a colleague of the young Previn's in the late 1940s through the mid-50s at MGM.
I do think that if he ever reexamines his film work, he will find much that he should be very proud of. I believe he will be remembered much longer for that than for any of his "classical" compositions.
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I just woke up from a nap. I never nap this early on a Saturday. I hope this doesn't disrupt my regular Saturday late afternoon nap.
I am going to sounds like a philly-stine here, but I don't know from Andre Previn. I do know Valley of the Dolls, so I'll say that that is my favorite Previn score.
Natalie Wood, however, I know scads about (or at least enough to form an opinion):
Early Natalie: Miracle on 34th Street
Middle Natalie: Rebel Without a Cause
Natalie Prime: Gypsy
Late Natalie: The Cracker Factory (A TV Movie)
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I don't have anything to say, but I'm here.
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I love the score Previn did with Betty & the late Adolph for IT'S ALWAYS FAIR WEATHER... especially the cut number "I Said Good Morning to the Sun" which Betty and the late Adolph used for years as their opening number when they did their "party".
Wasn't there a song (I think sung by Perry Como) called "It Would Take More Than a Pack of Wild Horses Pulling Your Wagon To Keep You From Me"?
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Every once in awhile the death of an actor can really affect me. Natalie Wood was one of those. It was almost as if I lost someone close to me, yet I never met her.
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Dan (the Man) my sleepy brain couldn’t come up with THE CRACKER FACTORY. Thank you. :)
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The bracelet I lost in Portland has been found, in tact. Seems my son’s Sugar Glider’s took a shine to it and Bryan found it in their nest. ;D
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Natalie Wood -- My three favorite Natalie Wood films are REBEL WITHOUT A CAUSE, WEST SIDE STORY, and GYPSY. My favortie moment on film, the scene in GYPSY in the dressing room when Louise turns into Gypsy, and see herself in the mirror for the first time. She was always so much a part of my youth, that I felt like I actually knew her, although, of course I never did. I've met Marni Nixon, a few times, does that count?
I have to agree with Jay on the PORGY AND BESS recordings. The Miss Price / Mr. Warfield recording is, to me, sheer heaven and the best one I have ever heard.
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I loved BOB AND CAROL, TED AND ALICE when I saw it almost thirty-five years ago. I have no idea how the film would hold up today, but Dyan Cannons' scenes in the therapist's office were, at the time, among the funniest scenes I had ever seen on a movie screen.
.............................. Off to rehearsal.
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TCB - Forgot to CONGRATULATE you on Scrooge!
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Jane - Great news about the bracelet. Things tend to happen in threes. My earring, your bracelet -- maybe your long lost engagement ring will be discovered in a bottle that floats up on the beach in Cuba.
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Say a prayer for me today. I am going to get my hair trimmed/(gasp!) cut. I might come back with a totally different do. I hate short hair but I’m thinking I need a change.
Just remember two things, Danise:
1) Your hair will always grow back (unless there is some medical reason that it doesn't/can't).
2) The difference between a bad haircut and a good haircut is two weeks! If you get a bad haircut, just wait a couple of weeks. It'll grow out and be not so bad...one hopes. ::)
Topics of the Day (I'll admit, they're the most obvious ones...oh, well!):
Natalie Wood:
MIRACLE ON 34TH STREET
WEST SIDE STORY
GYPSY
Andre Previn:
BELLS ARE RINGING
INSIDE DAISY CLOVER
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You are under Billy Barnes and on top of Jack Klugman
Michael!
This IS a family site, remember?? ;)
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George-TWO WEEKS! :o For me it is six months to a year, depending how short my hair is cut and how long I want it to grow.
Panni-wouldn’t that be something. Of course I would have to be on the beach in Cuba to be the one to find it. :D
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Maybe my antipathy towards Previn has something to do with films based on a couple of really good Broadway musicals. Both On the Town and Paint Your Wagon threw out some really wonderful stage songs and replaced them with some not-so-wonderful Previn songs.
Wow! I'm totally confused. Why should either of these films reflect on your opinion of Andre Previn?
"Paint Your Wagon" was arranged/conducted by Nelson Riddle. But rather blaming him, place the blame on the director and screen writer. THEY are the ones who decided which songs would stay and which songs would go. It was Riddle's job to make it all work based on the restructuring done to the musicals. Joshua Logan is the WORST thing to happen to musical films!
And Previn had absolutely nothing to do with "On the Town," either. Blame musical wunderkind Roger Edens for choosing which songs would be included...Edens wrote the rest of them himself. This was in collaboration with Lennie Hayton, who shared the 1949 Oscar with Edens for best musical scoring.
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Good Afternoon!
Sorry for not posting before now, but I had sort of an interesting/weird morning. When I initially woke up around 8:00, as soon as I opened my eyes, I suddenly felt sick. Well, like I was going to get sick. And then the moment passed. It was really strange. Totally caught me off guard. So, I got up for a little bit, walked around, and then.. BOOM! The wave of nausea hit me again. So... I just went back to bed... And about two hours later I got up again, and all seems to be fine. Although, I'm actually still a bit wary to put any food in my stomach, but I have had a few glasses of water, and my stomach - and everything else - feels fine. Maybe it was just my body's way of telling me to go back to bed. ???
-In the meantime, I've been preparing a bunch of mail to be sent out to various people - including some DRs. ;)
Well, that's all for me for right now - just thought you should know.
I'm gonna go have some cereal, and then get ready to head out to the post office - and maybe even some more birthday weekend shopping! And then to the show...
Laters.
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But before I go...
If I'm recalling correctly, seeing and hearing Andre Previn conduct the National Symphony was most likely my second concert I ever attended at the Kennedy Center. I believe it was a Gershwin program and he played the "Rhapsody in Blue" and/or the "Concerto in F", while conducting from the keyboard.
I also remember wandering backstage afterwards trying to get an autograph, and I somehow managed to get to his dressing room. There were some other people meeting him in there, so I just walked in. -And I was very nervous. He was shorter than I thought. ;) But he did sign my program. -And, of course, that's one of the few programs that I've lost track of over the years.
Again... Laters...
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The film version of Paint Your Wagon vaguely resembles the original stage version.
Andre Previn only wrote the music to the new songs. Nelson Riddle adapted and orchestrated it.
Paddy Chayefsky is credited with the adaptation whatever that means and Alan Jay Lerner is credited with the screenplay. Lerner was also the producer and why or why did he hire Josh Logan after what he did with the film version of Camelot. (And the film version of South Pacific).
The songs that were saved from the staged version were:
I'm On My Way
I Still See Elisa
Hand Me Down That Can Of Beans
They Call The Wind Maria
There's A Coach Comin' In
Whoop-Ti-Ay
I Talk To The Trees
Wand'rin' Star
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Oh, and if anyone is interested, my first concert at the Kennedy Center was hearing Vladimir Ashkenazy playing the Brahms' Piano Concerto (1st or 2nd - ?? - my memory is fuzzy right now), with the Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra and Ricardo Chailly conducting. I loved watching Chailly conduct - he had a great rapport with the players. He would even wink and raise his eyebrow while cueing entrances. Always smiling, I remember. And seeing Ashkenazy for the first time - and hearing him live! A piano-geek's dream! And I also remember being surprised that he didn't wear a tuxedo, instead he had on a black turtle neck, and a navy blue suit. Ah, the minutae...
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You are under Billy Barnes and on top of Jack Klugman
Sounds interesting...
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Page 3 dance
(http://www.dancestudioescondido.com/Animateed%20Dancers%20Swing%20shillouette.gif)
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Time for pictures!
Here is my grand-neice, and light of her uncle Mike's life, Taylor. My sister and I got her for the day and took her to the carousel at the waterfront in Salem. What fun it was!
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And here is Taylor and her daddy (my nephew, John) at lunch prior to John's going to play golf with his dad (my brother-in-law).
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And here is Taylor and Uncle Mike (Monkey Mike, as Taylor sometimes calls me) in a faux bathtub set up at the hair salon that my neice Katie works at.
Taylor doesn't seem to pleased and thinks that Uncle Mike has lost a few marbles, but I seem to be having a good time!
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Here is photo from a scene that was cut from Paint Your Wagon. Deemed too adult for the "M" rating it originally received. (Now a PG). After a while the Jean Seberg character was tired of the two husband at a time routine and what to watch her husbands do their "husbandly" things.
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Thank you all for humoring me while I force you to look at family photos! LOL!
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Sounds interesting...
Only YOU can tell us!!! :D
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Here is photo from a scene that was cut from Paint Your Wagon. Deemed too adult for the "M" rating it originally received. (Now a PG). After a while the Jean Seberg character was tired of the two husband at a time routine and what to watch her husbands do their "husbandly" things.
(http://www.haineshisway.com/community/attachments/paint04.jpg)
Their ""husbandly' things"? Did they kiss each other?? It really looks like they're about to here! ;)
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Here is photo from a scene that was cut from Paint Your Wagon. Deemed too adult for the "M" rating it originally received. (Now a PG). After a while the Jean Seberg character was tired of the two husband at a time routine and what to watch her husbands do their "husbandly" things.
I don't remember Jean Seberg wearing a beard!! ;)
Wagon! One of the most boring movies I've ever seen!
Hardly a musical per se too!
But then, the grace of Jean and the sweet singing voice of.... Marvin!!! :D
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MBarnum LOVE the pictures!
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Unfortunately, I don't think much of Previn's score to Coco or his "extra" songs for Paint Your Wagon (but don't blame him for their existence - he was HIRED to write them). I like some of Good Companions, but Broadway didn't seem to inspire him like the movies did. He wrote GREAT songs for the movies, especially Why Are We Alone from The Subterraneans, A Second Chance from Two for the Seesaw, Goodbye, Charlie, Valley of the Dolls (well, not ALL the songs were great), Daisy Clover, and his marvelous work on It's Always Fair Weather. And he wrote some really good stand-alone numbers not from anything, including the classic Like Love.
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Delightful photos Monkey Mike.
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Poor Andre Previn. His stint as music director of the L.A. Philharmonic is probably something he'd just as soon forget. He never took to the "powers that be" at the L.A. Phil, nor did they--or audiences--to him. When the heavy handed then-executive director took some artistic-related actions without Previn's input--or knowledge, for that matter--Previn was outahere.
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Re Natalie: I love The Great Race, a fine funny film in which she is perfectly cast. (Reminder to self: must add this to DVD collection.)
I love her performance in Gypsy, but I don't care for the film as a whole, mainly because I don't care for Russell as Rose. If there were some way to graft Wood's portrayal of Louise onto the Midler version of Gypsy, that would make for one dynamite film. But I somehow would want Jonathan Hadary's Herbie (from the Tyne Daly edition) grafted on, as well.
With all this grafting going on, it sounds more like a film about politics!
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I just finshed a wonderfully amusing and tear-filled afternoon with THE MARRYING KIND. Judy Holliday is just perfection and Aldo Ray, well, what a sensational debut film for him! He's macho and yet tender, sweet yet stubborn. My gosh, how many actors ever got such a plum debut starring role in an A picture? What a stunning looking young man (then).
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Yep, can't believe I left out IT'S ALWAYS FAIR WEATHER, one of my all-time favorite musicals.
And Previn won four Oscars (I mistakenly said three earlier): GIGI, PORGY AND BESS, IRMA LA DOUCE, MY FAIR LADY.
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Equal time for Dory Previn. "Beware of Young Girls" - one of the great songs about betrayal.
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It is a hot, sticky, rather miserable day in the South today. I was out earlier in the sweltering weather and couldn't wait to get home. I think we will get some mercifully sent rainfall tomorrow.
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In an hour or so I'll be going to the hills of Encino for a birthday bar-b-Q to celebrate the "anniversary of the 50th birthday" of the host.
Should be an interesting group. I think Wes Craven is going to be among the guests. I've met him before (with the same people who are having the partay) and he was a very quiet professor type. Not at all what you'd expect. Years ago, at another b-b-Q with the same hosts, one of the guests was Dr. Haing S. Ngor and we retired to a corner and had a fascinating talk about Cambodia. A lovely, gentle man. Ironic that he survived the Killing Fields, but couldn't survive LA.
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Fletcher will be joining our family tomorrow.
Der Brucer was on the phone with the son-in-law, who wants to come down soon to re-fence the dog run, I think to extend it along the side of the house and connect with the kitchen door for a new doggie doorway. Sounds like a great idea to me, give the lads (and lass) more room to play and run.
Only problem was that the word "dalmatian" was repeated by son-in-law, and daughter picked up on it. She's bound and determined that the breed is "terrible with children;" we have no idea where she's come across this info.
I'm just hoping Fretcher is patient enough with me, to let me learn American Sign Language at my own pace.
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...Should be an interesting group. I think Wes Craven is going to be among the guests. I've met him before (with the same people who are having the partay) and he was a very quiet professor type. Not at all what you'd expect. ...
It's always the quiet types, isn't it!
;)
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Confidential to Dear Reader Panni:
I just read that the Los Angeles County Museum of Art will be running a Montgomery Clift film festival next month. Be sure to carefully check your L.A. Times Weekend Calendar listings through the month of September.
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I certainly wish Paramount would get off its duff and issue THE HEIRESS on DVD. Clift is indescribably beautiful in that film.
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I must have been confused, as I thought Previn wrote the horrible new songs for On the Town, as well as the horrible new songs for Paint Your Wagon. I don't blame him for the decision to replace those great Bernstein and Loewe numbers... just for the shoddy work he did.
But it seems I may have been attributing some of Eden's work to him earlier. Sorry about that, AP
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Thanks for the Clift info, DR Jay. I'm going to feed the wonderdog now, then off to the partay. Full report later.
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Noel: But he didn't do any shoddy work on On the Town - not his film at all.
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No posts for forty-five minutes??? Skammen. I must get ready to go to the theater. But let's get some postin' goin' on prior to when I'm on my way.
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Not much to say today... but I'll say it anyway!
Even in Paris, France, at 1:45 am life -- mine! -- can be BORING!
... and my name is not Gaston!
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And one for Mahler.
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BK--you're leaving for the theatre at five your time? Why so early?
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No, I usually leave at about ten to six. I like to get there by six-thirty - always have stuff to deal with, and I think I've just decided to put in a new song next week, to replace something that's just not working as well as I'd like. Not sure the new song is better, but I'm gonna teach it to Jose today, and give it to the singer, and we'll rehearse it early in the week and put it in for Thursday if it's ready. It's a lot of words, so it may take a bit longer.
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Now I'm on my way to the theater. Keep the home fries burning or, since Francois is the only one around, keep the home frittes burning.
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One T to frites, BK... but i don't mind burning more Ts!
Ts for two?
Is Paris Burning?
No; just the home fries!
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Mais où est passé tout le monde?
On se croirait un samedi soir, sacrebleu!
(Sacrebleu... which is only used in old American cartoons to signal "French" characters and their bad mood!)
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Pero donde esta todo el mundo???
No me dices que estamos Sabado, dio mio!
That's for our Spanish speaking Hainsiesos y kimletos!
Caramba!
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Tonight I went out to dinner with my family at a bistro in Outremont and had:
Grilled squid and zuchinni in a balsmaic vinaigrette
Salmon tartare with truffle oil and a mixed green salad
Chocolate tart with ginger ice-cream
I also stole samples of the following from my fellow diners' plates:
Snails with Portobello mushrooms
Fish soup with aioli smeared croutons
Bavette and steak frites
Duck confit
Vanilla bean infused crème brulée
Lemon curd tart with tarragon sauce
It was yummers and I am oh so full... :)
Whenever I think of Natalie Wood, Maria from WSS is the first thing that comes to my mind. If only it was actually her singing in the film...
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and btw... the whole she-bang for six people including two bottles of wine and coffee was a very precise $299 CDN.
Not bad considering the quality and quantity of what we got...
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Oh, I like bavette!
I'll leave the snails -- a specialty of my native region!! -- and have the bavette, please!
Medium rare!
Merci!
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Quality and quantity
Stick together in perfect harmony!
Sorry!
Must be the wine!
Oh, I know Outremont! A very "trendy" part of Montréal indeed!
There was that movie theater I used to go to... some 30 years ago!
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Outremont!
Ain't that a beautiful word?
Over the mountain.....
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That's IT!
I believe that's the place I remember going to!
The Internet is SO maaarvelous!
http://www.theatreoutremont.ca/outremont/
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I have to keep the home fries burning!
I have to keep the home fries burning until the wild horses come home!
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Wanna see nice pics of Montréal and Outremont???
No!
But that was NOT a question!!
Click HERE, you hear!
http://www.mwtech.com/rw/photos/Canada/Montreal/
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I can tell you're lost and need a map!
Here it is; click on it to make it bigger -- that does NOT work with everything though!! hey, hey!
Non, non! Je l'vois bien qu'vous êtes paumé! Inutile de le nier!
Allez! cliquez donc sur le lien et puis la carte!
Ca fait pas mal! Mais non!
http://outremont.ville.montreal.qc.ca/Fr/Intro/Carte/Carte.asp
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Francois is his very own frenzy! :o
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Let me Entertain you
Let me Make you Smile!
Do you like my Natalie Wood impersonation?
Non?!
Wait till you hear my Marni Nixon imitation!
Oh, la, la! It izz tou die for! Mais oui mon cher!
It is extraordinaire!
The wild horses are coming?
The wild horses are coming?
Hold on your horses!
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Here it is; click on it to make it bigger -- that does NOT work with everything though!! hey, hey!
Oy vey! Where is TCB when you really NEED him? ? ?
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?country=US&address=&city=Tacoma&state=WA (http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?country=US&address=&city=Tacoma&state=WA)
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Jennifer Warnes once sang "The Ballad of the Runaway Horse."
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Francois is his very own frenzy! :o
Not Frenzy!
Frenchie! ;D
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You had a hold on me right from the start; a grip so tight they couldn't tear us apart. . .
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Oy vey! Where is TCB when you really NEED him? ? ?
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?country=US&address=&city=Tacoma&state=WA (http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?country=US&address=&city=Tacoma&state=WA)
Who needs TCB when td is around???? :D
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Jennifer Warnes once sang "The Ballad of the Runaway Horse."
Oh, yeah?
Only once?
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Jennifer Warnes once sang "The Ballad of the Runaway Horse."
Don't tell me she ran away because now she's hoarse! :o
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People come, people go!
That's the law of the jungle!
-- If anyone knows what i'm talking about, anyone has to be the only one! --
Sorry!
Time for my medicine!
Where's my spoonful of sugar???
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My satellite was down and I couldn’t connect. What do I return to but Emily’s dinner menu. :P Well the desserts sound good and I have no idea what Bavette is. I once tried snails but I was drunk. Just another reason never to get drunk.
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Bavette is a piece of beef cut in the neck area of the animal!
It's a little firm but very tasty!
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Just need to ask!!!
bavette (steak): minute steak; the top or skirt of beef
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What a frenzy Francios!
I have nothing to post. I am going to eat some dinner and watch the 1960s Italian sci-fi BATTLE OF THE WORLDS on DVD.
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I didn't ask since I didn't expect to like the answer. ;D
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I don’t feel like dancing. I have dishes to wash before Keith is done playing his game on the computer and we go watch a movie, or something.
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I'm glad I sent François on such a frenzy. :)
Bavette is indeed yummy and is found on pretty much all bistro menus. When done properly, I'd much rather have bavette then the very best chateaubriand.
Snails are yummy - but that's just because I love garlic.
Be glad Jane that I didn't try my sister's blood pudding. Now THAT is ugh-worthy.
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I don’t feel like dancing. I have dishes to wash before Keith is done playing his game on the computer and we go watch a movie, or something.
WELL?
Can't Keith wash the dishes while YOU play your game on the computer????
What's happened to Women's Lib???? :D
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Bl..d pudding????
Is your sister a vamp...ire???
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Page 5!
Let's do a bloody dance!
The Bloody Bavette Bolero!
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Jackman is Hugh-worthy... or is it HUG-worthy!??
You choose!
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We've had this discussion here before, but I don't mind most of the new songs for the film of ON THE TOWN at all. In fact, I think the title song is very catchy, "Main Street" as a simple nostalgia about it, and "You're Awful" is clever and fun.
Arthur Freed and Louis mayer did not like the stage score to ON THE TOWN at all, so it was THEIR idea to replace great chunks of the score, and as I've said before, Gene Kelly's voice, passable at best with the Edens music, would have been a disaster with Bernstein's more complex and sophisticated music. With the talent they were using in the film, I think the new songs fit them better.
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What's happened to Women's Lib???? :D
It is alive and well in this house. :D I enjoy doing dishes and washing clothes. He does just about everything else, including growing the vegetables we eat.
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In honor of our Natalie Wood Day here at HHW, I watched BRAINSTORM, her last film. It's a mess, of course, though the premise is interesting, and I remember well the back-and-forth switching between aspect ratios worked well in the theater when they were using the "thought machine." (Supposedly the 2.35:1 sequences were shot with a 70mm camera to increase sharpness.)
On DVD, the switching back and forth isn't nearly as effective, and as this early MGM DVD wasn't anamorphically encoded, it's not the greatest of transfers either. Color is fine, but there is dirt and other debris throughout the film, and it's never as sharp and crisp as we're used to DVDs looking now. I suspect this was a port to DVD from a video master.
Nice to see Natalie even if it's not one of her greatest performances.
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Don't really know what tomorrow will bring for me DVD-wise. The stack is still fairly overpowering, so I'm not sure if I'll go for one of the Criterion discs there (RICHARD III, 8 1/2) or something just trashy and fun like POINT BREAK.
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Keith is done with his game and Echo needs her pills. My little hand is more comfortable when it comes to shoving them down her. She actually looks forward to the pills as I give cookies in-between each one. :)
Goodnight.
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I still have nothing to say, but I'm still here.
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Guess who appeared in this tv special?
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Keith is done with his game and Echo needs her pills. My little hand is more comfortable when it comes to shoving them down her. She actually looks forward to the pills as I give cookies in-between each one. :)
Goodnight.
Fletcher will be needing pills, too. Damn those breeders for making some dog breeds, such as dals, so precariously fragile. But we've been told that he likes having his pills stuffed in fig newtons.
Tomorrow is going to be a very interesting day!
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Updating updating bruce's website. So much time. So much fun
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Let's not get a low posting record today. I know there is a little less that 3 hours to go on the west coast, but the east coat people can't do all the postings
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Guess who appeared in this tv special?
Marni Nixon? ;)
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Let's not get a low posting record today. I know there is a little less that 3 hours to go on the west coast, but the east coat people can't do all the postings
I am vain enough to believe that the Old Europe has been helping a bit, thank you very much! ;D
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Guess who appeared in this tv special?
Oh, I know: Guy Haines!
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Boy! Frantic posting here tonight at HHW!
We all know that Saturday night is......
Let's all sing together now! All?
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Back from my partay. (Well, not MY partay. Someone else's partay that I attended.)
Reading the posts, I think that Francois should receive the Legion de Frenzy Medal for valor above and beyond posting duty.
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And that concludes the votes of the French jury....
An inside joke for dear reader Tomovoz... who's not even here at the moment!!
Gee whiz! What's the world coming to?!
I ask!
My soliloquy:
I wonder what he'll think of me.....
Welcome to my Carousel of Wild Horses...
I bet Natalie would have been go in Carousel too!
You're a weird one, Dear Reader de Paris!
Well! you're telling me!
The Eagle has landed!
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i saw a number of people at the partay that I hadn't seen in over 8 years (when I lived here last). They all said I looked younger! Isn't that nice? I've de-aged. Probably the results of dee-vorce. Let's hear it for dee-vorce!
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Oh, I know: Guy Haines!
Close enough!
(http://www.brucekimmel.com/images/tabitha%20cast.bmp)
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Tonight was the last of my Southwest Chamber Music concerts at the Huntington Museum in San Marino, Dear Readers.
The first half of the program was comprised of Mendelssohn's Octet in E Flat. I remain astounded that this piece was written by a boy of 16. It's a lovely piece (it's one of my favorite chamber works) and was played with great vigor and elan.
The novelty of the program was in what followed the interval, as Savitri, a rarely performed chamber opera by Gustav Holst, was presented in concert. The story, at least on the surface, is rather simple. Savitri argues with Death over her husband, whom Death has come to claim. Take her husband's life, Savitri says, and she will be of no value to the world. Spare his life, she continues, and he will spark life in her, allowing her to spark life in others and do good in the world. Savitri prevails.
The libretto's poetic language (Savitri was sung in English) reinforces the life-affirming "message" of this opera.
Savitri is unusual in that it begins and concludes with extended stretches of singing with no instrumental accompaniment. As he does in his far better known symphonic work, The Planets, Holst makes use of an offstage female chorus; its wordless vocalise suggests the powers greater than humankind that surround us. The small orchestra serves primarily to provide a unifying fabric over which the story is played out. There are moments here and there where the orchestra does offer some dramatic counterpoint, occasionally relying on quasi-Eastern harmonies, but it never takes a dominant role in the proceedings.
I cannot envision an opera as static as Savitri succeeding in a fully staged production. It certainly is an interesting piece, though. It ties nicely to the Christopher Isherwood theme that ran through the Southwest Chamber Music's programming this summer and was a splendid way for the group to conclude its season.
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Thank you Hilversum.
(An insider joke back to François).
Todays' listening for anyone out there who is interested - Bobby McFerrin "Paper Music". I have not played it for years. Most enjoyable.
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We've had this discussion here before, but I don't mind most of the new songs for the film of ON THE TOWN at all. In fact, I think the title song is very catchy, "Main Street" as a simple nostalgia about it, and "You're Awful" is clever and fun.
Arthur Freed and Louis mayer did not like the stage score to ON THE TOWN at all, so it was THEIR idea to replace great chunks of the score, and as I've said before, Gene Kelly's voice, passable at best with the Edens music, would have been a disaster with Bernstein's more complex and sophisticated music. With the talent they were using in the film, I think the new songs fit them better.
Yes, Matt, I praised You're Awful earlier. (I was initially mistaken in thinking Andre Previn wrote the On the Town songs that are in fact by Roger Edens. So, I apologized to AP and admitted my mistake.) Given that they also had Frank Sinatra in the cast, there was at least ONE man around who could have handled any or all of the Bernstein songs. But, for some reason, Frank's the funny one and Gene's the more romantic one. Never made too much sense to me. But I agree it's a pretty good film in its own right.
Cast Frank as Gabey, let him sing Lonely Town and Lucky To Be Me, and let Gene play Chip (c'mon - which guy is more believable as a fellow who's never seen New York?) and you'd have even a better film.
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I always enjoy reading your reviews, DR Jay. You should collect them in a slim, elegant volume and title them "Musings of a Gadabout."
(I spelled "gadabout" incorrectly. Skammen.)
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So close... One more push...
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And one for Mahler.
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Back from my partay. (Well, not MY partay. Someone else's partay that I attended.)
Reading the posts, I think that Francois should receive the Legion de Frenzy Medal for valor above and beyond posting duty.
When and where is the Ceremony to happen????
Downtown Burbank?
Hollywood Wax Museum???
Hollywood Bowl????
Thank you, thank you!
I'd like to thank my parents, my agent, my producer, all the people at HHW for making this possible.....
"You Americans are famous for your hospitality, but this is ridiculous." --- thanks to Dame Julie for allowing me to use this quote! -- :D
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I always enjoy reading your reviews, DR Jay. You should collect them in a slim, elegant volume and title them "Musings of a Gadabout."
Why, thank you, Dear Reader Panni. I consider that a high compliment!
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Thank G.d dear old Mahler does not toast all those pages!
He would have problems with his liver.......... >:(
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The news crawl on my screen informs me that Laura Branigan is dead at 47.
Each time I hear her rendition of "Gloria," memories of a whole segment of my life fill my head.
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MESSAGE FROM BK
He's having a post-show meal. The Notes will go up a little late ce soir.
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Very sad about Laura Branigan. 47! That's half a life.
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Francois - Why assume the ceremony will be held here? I think the HHW group should convene in Paris for the grand event.
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I went away from the computer to do a few things and came back to find... NOTHING. What's happened to everybody???
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Sorry - I should say that in HHW-ese... Where in tarnation is everyone?
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Well, sweetheart, it's just you and me!
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How depressing, it's just me!
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No, it's the two of us. Alone at last!
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Will I make this in time? I have been errant and truant most of the day. I went to work and after that, got a new antenna for my cell phone. After that I came home and did nothing but watch TV...mostly the Olympics (men's diving. That Canadian boy...very cute!) I didn't even turn on my computer. Then I drove through the drive through at Taco Bell for dinner and they didn't give me my Fiesta Potatoes. I paid $1.49 and they cheat me! Damn them all! Damn them all to hell! Now I'm home with the computer on just wondering if I'll make this post in time or not.
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I made it! Isn't that exciting? Isn't that just too too??