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Archives => Archive 2 => Topic started by: bk on August 31, 2004, 12:02:42 AM
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Well, you've read the notes, you know that we want no more tumult, and now it is time to post until the cows come home and change their tune. To it, I say.
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This is a midnight frenzy? This isn't even a midnight "fre". When did the late-night denizens become such WUSSBURGERS?
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Oops (spoo, spelled backwards) we've got us a birthday to celebrate. I'll amend the notes.
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Happy 17th Birthday Sarah. May your year be a happy and healthy one indeed.
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY SWISHY SARAH!!!
May it be the Swishiest one yet!!!!
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As for poets, Rainer Marie Rilke comes to mind. I'm particularly fond of his poems in French. Additionally, his "Letters to a Young Poet" are quite wonderful and inspirational.
Well, that's all for now... Time to hit the hay. *Yes, I'm sleeping in a barn! ;)
NOT!
Goodnight.
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Happy Birthday Sarah!!
I've been horribly E&T lately...but now I'm all caught up.
I had a job interview today...my first one in four months...I think it went well... God I hope I get it... (oh, a chorus line reference)
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Good job vibes to Ann....good tearing up/rebuilding vibes to Mr BK....good low tide vibes to Jose!
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Here is your Allison Hayes picture of the week. Last Tuesday I showed you the Lobby Card from Attack of the 50 Foot Woman featuring Allison's "hand" - here is the Mexican lobby card of the same scene. :o
Hmmmmmmm....well no, I guess I don't have that one....here is the "hand" anyway....appearing in another scene!
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Many poems and poetry....hmmmmmmmm.....
Emily Dickinson - Will There Really Be a Morning?
and of course:
I am nobody.
Who are you?
Are you nobody, too?
And "Nothing Gold Can Stay" and many others by Robert Frost.
But here is a favorite, by Christina Rosetti. It was quote briefly in KISS ME, DEADLY....
Remember
Remember me when I am gone away.
Gone far away into the silent land.
When you can no more hold me by the hand.
Nor I half turn to go yet turning stay.
Remember me when no more day by day
You tell me of our future that you planned:
Only remember me; you understand
It will be late to counsel then or pray.
Yet if you should forget me for a while
And afterwards remember, do not grieve:
For if the darkness and corruption leave
A vestige of the thoughts that I once had,
Better by far that you should forget and smile
Than that you should remember and be sad.
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Poetry:
I have a confession to make. I have never been a great fan of poetry. Maybe I was never introduced to it correctly, but it has never been my thing. Then again, that might change in passing years (a David Friedman referance). For example, I never really cared for dance until about a year ago and now, though it is not my greatest passion, I am much more interested in it.
That being said...
I have always loved Lewis Carroll. He may not be as respected as Dickinson or Frost, but I love his verse. Especially "Father William." Probably comes from my great love of the 'Alice' books.
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Now if you want to talk about the 'poets' of musical theatre (Hammerstein, Hart, Lerner, etc.)...now we're talkin' my language! :)
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The other day I mentioned former US Poet Laureate Billy Collins as my favorite poet and his "Litany" as my fav poem of his. Another that I love is:
Taking Off Emily Dickinson's Clothes
First, her tippet made of tulle,
easily lifted off her shoulders and laid
on the back of a wooden chair.
And her bonnet,
the bow undone with a light forward pull.
Then the long white dress, a more
complicated matter with mother-of-pearl
buttons down the back,
so tiny and numerous that it takes forever
before my hands can part the fabric,
like a swimmer's dividing water,
and slip inside.
You will want to know
that she was standing
by an open window in an upstairs bedroom,
motionless, a little wide-eyed,
looking out at the orchard below,
the white dress puddled at her feet
on the wide-board, hardwood floor.
The complexity of women's undergarments
in nineteenth-century America
is not to be waved off,
and I proceeded like a polar explorer
through clips, clasps, and moorings,
catches, straps, and whalebone stays,
sailing toward the iceberg of her nakedness.
Later, I wrote in a notebook
it was like riding a swan into the night,
but, of course, I cannot tell you everything -
the way she closed her eyes to the orchard,
how her hair tumbled free of its pins,
how there were sudden dashes
whenever we spoke.
What I can tell you is
it was terribly quiet in Amherst
that Sabbath afternoon,
nothing but a carriage passing the house,
a fly buzzing in a windowpane.
So I could plainly hear her inhale
when I undid the very top
hook-and-eye fastener of her corset
and I could hear her sigh when finally it was unloosed,
the way some readers sigh when they realize
that Hope has feathers,
that reason is a plank,
that life is a loaded gun
that looks right at you with a yellow eye.
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I'm kinda partial to tomovoz's poetry from his late-night frenzy:
A world where:
"newspaper taxis appear on the shore
Waiting to take me away".
(best I could do td.)
Ya done good, mate. ;)
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HAPPY 17TH BRITHDAY, MY SWISHY!
As David Bowie once sang, "Let's Dance."
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Thank you to all the Dear Readers who helped with my Olympic results situation. (Note to DR George: Helen Keller could notice!)
Bonne Anniversaire a Swishy Sarah.
Vibes of various kinds to Elmore and Ann.
TOD: Favorite poem: THE ROAD NOT TAKEN by Robert Frost. But I have to confess that, like DR Beckon, I am not that great a fan of poetry in general.
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When I was young and pretty
I thought the world was fine.
The pleasures of the city
Were destined to be mine.
Admirers came aplenty;
They offered me the earth,
When I was young and twenty
I surely knew my worth.
When I was young and thirty
We had experienced War
And life was sometimes dirty,
And Nature often raw,
But I was never haughty,
And there could still be fun,
When I, less young at forty,
Found life had just begun.
When I advanced to fifty,
My pleasures grew more calm;
I might have been less nifty,
But still had power to charm.
The decades grow more weighty,
But I remain unvexed,
And now I'm well past eighty,
I want to know 'What's next?'
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WHEN you are old and gray and full of sleep
And nodding by the fire, take down this book,
And slowly read, and dream of the soft look
Your eyes had once, and of their shadows deep;
How many loved your moments of glad grace,
And loved your beauty with love false or true;
But one man loved the pilgrim soul in you,
And loved the sorrows of your changing face.
And bending down beside the glowing bars,
Murmur, a little sadly, how love fled
And paced upon the mountains overhead,
And hid his face amid a crowd of stars.
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Benny Goodman recorded "Let's Dance" long before David Bowie.
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Of the classic poets, I can actually get delerious with the words of Percey Shelley when I'm properly attuned. I once memorized and presented "Ode to the West Wind" in an acting class, and I'm surprised how long it has stuck with me (or I to it.)
I fall upon the thorns of life! I bleed!--I often use these words out of context in moments of self-aggrandized self-pity. I'm always delighted when someone else recognizes them.
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Oh and DRMATTH - I mixed up my Bings yesterday...of the two (which I just ordered) my favorite is JUST FOR YOU. It features Bob Arthur (Ace in the Hole/The Big Carnival) and Natalie Wood as Bing's kids....in fact Bob Arthur thinks he is in love with Jane Wyman - Bing's fling! LOL....and pretty color as well! Little Natalie was beginning to grow up and she does a nice job here and already looks beautiful!
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(http://www.reel.com/content/boxart/vhs/9848.GIF) ;D
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Benny Goodman recorded "Let's Dance" long before David Bowie.
AH! But that was way before Miss Swishy's time, or mine. ;)
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Happy Birthday DR Swishy!
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Happy birthday Ms. Swishy! Hope you have a wonderful day!!
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***Happy Birthday, Swishy Sarah!***
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****GOOD JOB VIBES TO DR ANN!****
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Poetry - I love Dylan Thomas. One of my very favorite of his poems is FERN HILL. IMHO it is one of the greatest reflections on the beauty and innocence of childhood ever written. It's too long to print out here in full. I'll just print the first verse and the last. The last three lines of the poem bring tears to my eye, no matter how often I read them.
Now as I was young and easy under the apple boughs
About the lilting house and happy as the grass was green,
The night above the dingle starry,
Time let me hail and climb
Golden in the heydays of his eyes,
And honoured among wagons I was prince of the apple towns
And once below a time I lordly had the trees and leaves
Trail with daisies and barley
Down the rivers of the windfall light.
Last verse:
Nothing I cared, in the lamb white days, that time would take me
Up to the swallow thronged loft by the shadow of my hand,
In the moon that is always rising,
Nor that riding to sleep
I should hear him fly with the high fields
And wake to the farm forever fled from the childless land.
Oh as I was young and easy in the mercy of his means,
Time held me green and dying
Though I sang in my chains like the sea.
Anyone who doesn't know the poem and would like to read it, can find it at
http://www.bigeye.com/fernhill.htm
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Happy Birthday to Swishy Sarah!
I like JUST FOR YOU and HERE COMES THE GROOM about equally, though I think in terms of sophistication, I like GROOM maybe just a little bit better. Bing must have had major deja vu five years later making HIGH SOCIETY which has a similar idea of breaking up a marriage before it takes place. I also thought it was interesting that the Paramount powers that be would go to Hogey Carmichael and Johnny Mercer for "In the Cool, Cool, Cool of the Evening" when Livingstone and Evans wrote everything else in the movie. I'll bet that made them angry.
I remember reading Harry Warren's bitter words of recrimination when Rogers Edens and other MGM notables added the Gershwins' "They Can't Take That Away from Me" to the score of THE BARKLEYS OF BROADWAY without even mentioning it to him they were doing it. Of course, that sequence is by far the best in the picture.
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ot much of a poetry person. I college, knowing I was going to have to teach poetry once I got hired to teach high school, I took a modern poetry to try to gain some appreciation for the art. I made an A for the class (hard earned as we had to have about 200 poems at our brain-tips for the final exam to be able to identify poet and theme), but I emerged with no greater appreciation for it than when I entered.
So, other than Shakespeare as a poet, I did read and enjoy Robert Frost and Emily Dickinson, some of T.S. Eliot and some of James Dickey. But I couldn't really say any of them are real favorites.
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Benny Goodman recorded "Let's Dance" long before David Bowie.
And Goodman was merely riffing on Carl Maria Von Weber's "Invitation to the Dance."
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Happy Birthday, Sarah. Swish on, girl!
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My favorite poets include the Americans Carl Sandburg, Edna St. Vincent Millay, and Walt Whitman. But I think my favorite poem of all, learned in college, is by W.B. Yeats.
The Lake Isle of Innisfree
William Butler Yeats
I will arise and go now, and go to Innisfree,
And a small cabin build there, of clay and wattles made:
Nine bean-rows will I have there, a hive for the honey-bee;
And live alone in the bee-loud glade.
And I shall have some peace there, for peace comes dropping slow,
Dropping from the veils of the morning to where the cricket sings;
There midnight's all a glimmer, and noon a purple glow,
And evening full of the linnet's wings.
I will arise and go now, for always night and day
I hear lake water lapping with low sounds by the shore;
While I stand on the roadway, or on the pavements grey,
I hear it in the deep heart's core.
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In my early years of teaching, I taught Longfellow's EVANGELINE which I always found beautiful and heartbreaking. Other Longfellow ballads were also part of the curriculum. By the 1980s, almost all of his poems had been removed from the literature texts we used. He had become thoroughly out of favor.
The Sherlock Holmes stories were bounced out of the texts for a couple of textbook adoption periods (5-6 years generally), too, but by my last few years, they had been reinstated, and I reveled in getting to teach "The Adventure of the Speckled Band" and "The Red Headed League."
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I think I've got an early morning one woman frenzy going here. I used to really enjoy writing poetry, haven't done it in ages. My ex-husband, whatever else I may think of him, was a good poet. One of his poems, "Windows," published years ago in Canada in The Proper Lover, a slim volume of his poetry, is a love poem (to - blush - me) that's actually a memory poem, a reflection on childhood (in his case in Newfoundland - which has Irish roots - thus a connection to Dylan Thomas in his style) and how that first bloom of love makes you feel like a child again. Here's a bit:
The voices of the grown-ups
were as distant as a wasp.
Inside the house
there was a window where someone
had caught the colours of the rainbow
in small glass squares,
a magic place where the world
would shift from green to red
to the glow of yellow
as I moved my head,
the changing colours of the world,
the changing shades that licked my face
until I dreamed the world
was smeared and washed with colour,
and four-years-old
I slept the world
away.
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Oh my such wonderful poetry...such wonderful poetry.
It always reminds me of the time when Irving Thalberg was castigating his writers and said: "What is writing anyway, just putting one word after the other..."
And Ben Hecht (I think) replied: "No, Irving, it's putting one RIGHT word after the other...."
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Frank O'Hara and William Carlos Williams are my favorites. Also like some e. e. cummings. I'm thrilled that O'Hara's words are immortalized on a fence in front of the Battery Park City marina.
At a recent wedding which took place on a boat going around Manhattan, the bride instructed me to answer the questions about out-of-towners, to be the resident expert on New York. People being, well, what they are, the most common question was "Where was the World Trade Center?" So, when we were in front of the marina, I had to say, between those buildings, rather than say, on that fence they have a quote from one of my favorite poets, Frank O'Hara.
Rare is the opportunity to discuss poetry!
Here's one of the more famous O'Hara poems. "Lady" was how fans referred to Billie Holliday.
THE DAY LADY DIED
It is 12:20 in New York a Friday
three days after Bastille Day, yes
it is 1959 and I go get a shoeshine
because I will get offthe 419 in Easthampton
at 7:15 and then go straight to dinner
and I don't know the people who will feed me
I walk up the muggy street beginning to sun
and have a hamburger and a malted and buy
an ugly NEW WORLD WRITING to see what the poets
in Ghana are doing these days
I go on to the bank
and Miss Stillwagon (first name Linda I once heard)
doesn't even look up my balance for once in her life
and in the GOLDEN GRIFFIN I get a little Verlaine
for Patsy with drawings by Bonnard although I do
think of Hesiold, trans. Richmond Lattimore or
Brendan Behan's new play or Le Balcon or Les Negres
of Genet, but I don't, I stink with Verlaine
after practically going to sleep with quandariness
and for Mike I just stroll into the PARK LANE
Liquor Store and ask for a bottle of Strega and
then I go back where I came form to 6th Avenue
and the tobacconist in the Ziegfeld Theatre and
casually ask for a carton of Gauloises and a carton
of Picayunes, and a NEW YORK POST with her face on it
and I am sweating a lot by now and thinking
of leaning of the john door in the FIVE SPOT
while she whispered a song along the keybord
to Mal Waldron and everyone and I stopped breathing
7/17/59
Frank O'Hara
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Is anybody else looking at the title of today's notes and humming No More Candy from She Loves Me?
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What lovely poetical postings. I've never much been into poetry myself, so I'm thoroughly enjoying this.
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[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]HAPPY BIRTHDAY §WI§HY §ARAH !![/move]
Could someone P.M. me the rest of the poem that goes:
There was a young man from Nantucket...
I know the second line, but I've never been told the rest of it. ::) Seriously...I have NEVER known how it ends!
Otherwise, you can count me as yest another non-poetry fan. But when I was much younger, my sister was a fan of Isaac Asimov and she had a book of short stories by him. This poem was in it and she memorized it. For some reason, I did too. It's the only real poem that I've ever memorized...and I like it. It's funny:
THE PRIME OF LIFE by Isaac Asimov ;)
It was, in truth, an eager youth
Who halted me one day.
He gazed in bliss at me, and this
Is what he had to say:
"Why, mazel tov, it's Asimov,
A blessing on your head!
For many a year, I've lived in fear
That you were long since dead.
Or if alive, one fifty-five
Cold years had passed you by,
And left you weak, with poor physique,
Thin hair and rheumy eye.
For sure enough, I've read your stuff
Since I was but a lad
And couldn't spell or hardly tell
The good yarns from the bad.
My father, too, was reading you
Before he met my Ma.
For you he earned, once he had learned
About you from _his_ Pa.
Since time began, you wondrous man,
My ansestors did love
That s.f. dean and writing machine
The aged Asimov."
I'd had my fill. I said: "Be still!
I've kept my old-time spark.
My step is light, my eye is bright,
My hair is thick and dark."
His smile, in brief, spelled disbelief,
So this is what I did;
I scowled, you know, and with one blow,
I killed that rotten kid.
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For DR George:
There once was a man from Nantucket,
Who kept all of his cash in a bucket,
But his daughter, named Nan,
Ran away with a man,
And as for the bucket, Nantucket.
P.S. Do you want me to PM you the non-family-site version? You've been warned.
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I don't know from poetry.
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I remember memorizing "How Do I love Thee" for grade 8 drama class. One other classmate also memorized it, yet paused at all the wrong points. I remember getting a very good grade for that one.
DR Elmore, continued good health vibes ~~~~~~~~~~.
BK, good mold vibes ~~~~~~~~~~~~.
DR Ann, good job vibes ~~~~~~~~~~~.
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Limericks count as poetry? Oh, well, in that case I have lots of favorite poems.
But none of them can be posted here, as this is a family site.
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I finally saw Tiger Cruise and enjoyed it very much.
I really love the lead girl, Hayden. I used to see her on Guiding Light, and she was wonderful as a younger actress. And still is great.
Question, did Disney make you guys write that sappy ending? :)
Am I the only one who wanted the father to go home and be with his family?
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Oh...DRNOEL has certainly posted a nifty poem....
And DRGEORGE did, as well.
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Is anybody else looking at the title of today's notes and humming No More Candy from She Loves Me?
I wasn't, but now I am.
BTW, what kind of confection would a tumult be? Something fudgelike?
We become indiscreet
Eating sweet after sweet,
Though we know very well where that may lead.
So this box was designed
With the two of us in mind
As the kind of reminder we need.
When you lift the lid, the music plays
Like a disapproving nod.
And it sings in your ear:
"No more tumult, my dear!"
In a way, it's a little like the voice of God.
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Is anybody else looking at the title of today's notes and humming No More Candy from She Loves Me?
Actually, everytime I look at it I think of the opening line of "No More" from Into The Woods.
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DTM,
Interesting, we replied to Noel's post within a minute of each other.
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Synchronicity....
Isn't that a Sherman & Sherman song from THE HAPPIEST MILLIONAIRE?
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Ahh....yes.....
One night in late October
When I was far from sober.
Returning with my load with manly pride.
My feet began to stutter, so I lay down in the gutter.
And a pig came up and lay down by my side.
A woman passing by was heard to say:
"You can tell a man who boozes
by the company he chooses."
And the pig got up and slowly walked away.
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DTM,
Interesting, we replied to Noel's post within a minute of each other.
We are the same side of two different coins.
(i donno what that means either...)
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Synchronicity....
Isn't that a Sherman & Sherman song from THE HAPPIEST MILLIONAIRE?
Also a song from the same named album by The Police. It's one of my desert island discs.
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Happy Birthday, DR Swishy Sarah!!!!
I don't know from poetry. DR Sandra has to explain it to me.
This is the only poem I understand:
A wonderful bird is the pelican,
His bill will hold more than his belican.
He can take in his beak
Food enough for a week,
But I'm damned if I see how the helican.
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Good Morning!
-Well, it's still morning here on this coast...
Just checking in on things here and there. Unfortunately, the water and flood damage in Richmond from yesterday's downpour - 9 inches in 12 hours! - has caused millions of dollars of damage. And, unfortunately, a bunch of my friends have been affected by the storm in one way or another. I've been calling and IMing with them this morning. The biggest casualty seems to be the Historic Shockoe Bottom area - whole buildings flooded out, some washed away. Lots of restaurants and clubs in that area along with apartments and condos. *And in an ironic "twist", it seems the city officials may be looking into the "purpose" of the newish flood wall that was constructed a few years ago. It seems to be doing a great job of keeping the river from overflowing, unfortunately, it also seems to be doing a good job of keeping the water from city side "in"...
-Well, I've used the word "unfortunately" too many times by now...
OOHH!!! -Well, just chatting with my roommate right now... Apparently, our upstairs neighbors ceiling fell in in three different places... Guess the roof patching job they did earlier this year... Ah, well...
Laters...
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hehehe Pelican Doggerel!!!
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A BIG HAPPY SEVENTEENTH BIRTHDAY SWISHY SARAH! :)
Bruce, most potent vibes and xylophones and lessened tumult for the next few weeks.
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I remember reading Harry Warren's bitter words of recrimination when Rogers Edens and other MGM notables added the Gershwins' "They Can't Take That Away from Me" to the score of THE BARKLEYS OF BROADWAY without even mentioning it to him they were doing it. Of course, that sequence is by far the best in the picture.
I think it's pretty, but I don't think it's better than "Swing Trot" which opens the movie -- sensationally -- under the credits. OF course, all that flowing of Rogers's gown and some spectacular dance moves make the number a standout for most folks, including me.
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Actually, everytime I look at it I think of the opening line of "No More" from Into The Woods.
I am with you, DR DTM.
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Well, just chatting with my roommate right now... Apparently, our upstairs neighbors ceiling fell in in three different places...
I assume you mean your full-time roommate back home, n'est-ce pas? 'Cause unless DR/DB Jay has undertaken one of those Extreme Home Makeovers hosted by the glamorously talented carpenter Ty Pennington, I can't recall a second story on Jay's Pasadena manse......
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Welcome nine GUESTS. We're talkin' about poetry.
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Sarah - Have the Happiest of Birthdays and the Greatest of Years!
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GOOD JOB VIBES FOR ANN!
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For those here who watch Big Brother, here is the new twist that will happen on Thursday/Saturday:
http://www.tvrules.net/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=5693
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Beverage Haiku
I've downed three cans of
Caffeine Free Diet Pepsi.
A belch is coming.
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Well.. I'm still here... (Ah, a FOLLIES reference...)...
I had planned to be heading into Hollywood by now to catch a movie at the Arclight, but the time just simply got away from me. I've been continuing to check in with friends back home in Richmond. Everyone is doing well, and staying dry. A few friends have flooded apartments and basements, but they all seem to be doing well and are in good spirits. And, thankfully, my apartment is nice and dry - even with the leaking roof in the upstairs apartment.
So... Now I shall be heading out. I'm planning on doing some walking around and sight-seeing and then catching "Broadway: The Golden Age" at the Laemmle Faifax at 4:40. See you there!
Oh, and I guess I could see the movie I had planned to catch at 2:00, "Garden State", after the other movie, hmmm...
Laters...
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It really has been far to long since I have read poetry and I’m enjoying today’s posts. THE PRIME OF LIFE is great George. Emily Dickenson may be my favorite poet, after Keith. And Frost was always another favorite, especially THE ROAD NOT TAKEN.
A poem that had a great impact on me as a child was about a dog named Rags by Edmund Vance Cooke. I never read this poem without crying and insisted everyone read the poem. I just found it on the internet- http://www.animalsvoice.com/PAGES/poetry/rags.html
Warning-this is probably the reason I became a vegetarian.
Who remembers this fun one, THE CREMATION OF SAM MCGEE by Robert Service?
There are strange things done in the midnight sun
By the men who moil for gold;
The Arctic trails have their secret tales
That would make your blood run cold;
The Northern Lights have seen queer sights,
But the queerest they ever did see
Was that night on the marge of Lake Lebarge
I cremated Sam McGee.
For the entire poem
http://members.aol.com/acadac/poems/s_mcgee.html
My favorite poem is called WISHING and was written in 1970 by Keith. This poem is special as it captured the young woman I was and has kept her frozen in time.
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Last time I was in San Francisco I went to the famous City Lights Book Store and bought POETRY DAILY - 366 POEMS FROM THE WORLD'S MOST POPULAR POETRY WEBSITE. There is a pooem for every day of the month and it's fun to look each day and see what the Poem of the Day is. (Today's is "Ant Farm' by Thilias Moss)
The poem for May 10 was #2 by Lawrence Ferlinghetti. And what a pleasant surprise when I found that he had signed and dated the poem.
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Guess we'll have to prefer different dances in THE BARKLEYS OF BROADWAY, DR RLP. While I think "Swing Trot" is excellent, the lyrical and romantic allure of the Gershwins (plus the carryover of its somewhat throwaway use in SHALL WE DANCE) keep it just one step ahead for me.
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Question, did Disney make you guys write that sappy ending? :)
Am I the only one who wanted the father to go home and be with his family?
Jennifer,
Glad you liked the movie. I think it would have been somewhat unheroic for the father to desert his ship and go be with the family right after 9/11.
As for your query re the "sappy ending"... let me just respectfully say -- that's a dangerous kind of question to ask a writer. What if the answer were "No, Disney had nothing to do with it. It was all my idea." I think the foot-in-mouth quotient would be pretty high. As it is, that's not the case. But neither is Disney "made" the writers do it. It's more complex than that. These things tend to "evolve..." And the evolution is complicated,often frustrating and mostly impossible to explain to anyone not intimately involved in the process.
As a point of interest - there's also a huge difference between the way Americans feel about flag and country and the way Canadians feel. In the US, it's much more heartfelt, emotional and upfront. I think those feelings might also contribute to how one feels about the end of the movie. I would bet that it would be barf-inducing to 8 out of 10 Canadians.
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Jennifer - As an experiment - you should send the tape to Dan-in-Toronto and we could get his take on it.
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The afternoon has gotten away from me, too. I had planned on watching the DVD of YOU WERE NEVER LOVELIER, but got sidetracked watching the biography of Julie Newmar on The Biography Channel, so I'll watch the Fred-Rita musical tonight.
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Well, I saw Swishy Sarah hanging around the board today so at least we know she got her birthday wishes. Why she didn't respond to same is a question for the ages.
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I think it's pretty, but I don't think it's better than "Swing Trot" which opens the movie -- sensationally -- under the credits. OF course, all that flowing of Rogers's gown and some spectacular dance moves make the number a standout for most folks, including me.
In case you didn't know, one of the THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT films (I think it's 3) shows "Swing Trot" without the credits blocking out much of the dance.
Warning to DRs who collect Broadway Cast Albums:
The Decca Broadway CD of Cole Porter's MEXICAN HAYRIDE (with bonus tracks of "Mary Martin Sings Cole Porter") scheduled for release today is a faulty pressing with one of the Martin songs "accidently" replaced by a song from her LUTE SONG album. All copies have been recalled, although if you pre-ordered it on-line you will get the wrong version. A corrected version will be available in two or three weeks, distinguished by a sticker that says "First Time On CD" that is not on the faulty pressing. If you do end up with one of the pressings with the incorrect track, let me know and I'll give you the address where to send it for a free replacement of the corrected version. This is the third time in less than 2 years that this has happened with a Decca Broadway release (the others being MERRY WIDOW and SONG OF NORWAY).
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OMG! I just read that Bitty Shramm, who plays the long suffering nurse Sharonna on MONK, will not return for the next set of episodes to premiere in January.
I think she's going to be SORELY missed in the show. The chemistry between her and Tony Shalhoub was palpable, and the success of his character being tolerable to us was in HER ability to tolerate him despite his eccentricities and phobias.
Argh! :(
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Jennifer,
Glad you liked the movie. I think it would have been somewhat unheroic for the father to desert his ship and go be with the family right after 9/11.
As for your query re the "sappy ending"... let me just respectfully say -- that's a dangerous kind of question to ask a writer. What if the answer were "No, Disney had nothing to do with it. It was all my idea." I think the foot-in-mouth quotient would be pretty high. As it is, that's not the case. But neither is Disney "made" the writers do it. It's more complex than that. These things tend to "evolve..." And the evolution is complicated,often frustrating and mostly impossible to explain to anyone not intimately involved in the process.
As a point of interest - there's also a huge difference between the way Americans feel about flag and country and the way Canadians feel. In the US, it's much more heartfelt, emotional and upfront. I think those feelings might also contribute to how one feels about the end of the movie. I would bet that it would be barf-inducing to 8 out of 10 Canadians.
Btw, I did not mean sappy in a bad way. I am just very curious about the process and was wondering who made the decision. And yeah the ending did seem very patriotic, while very "Disney".
I agree about what you said about it being hard to have the father go home after 9/11. And I'm not saying i would have wanted him to right then. But I really liked how the dad had realized the toll his absence had taken on his family. ANd I found it sort of unsatisfying that the family could not be together (even though I know that in the immediate future he was needed elsewhere).
Interesting what you say about Canadian vs American interpretation. I'd be interested to hear more opinions.
And if Emily or DIT are interested in watching it, just email me.
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OMG! I just read that Bitty Shramm, who plays the long suffering nurse Sharonna on MONK, will not return for the next set of episodes to premiere in January.
I think she's going to be SORELY missed in the show. The chemistry between her and Tony Shalhoub was palpable, and the success of his character being tolerable to us was in HER ability to tolerate him despite his eccentricities and phobias.
Argh! :(
Oh darn! >:(
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DR Panni, since you grew up in Canada, what was your first inclination on how to end the movie.
I think maybe part of my problem was that while Hayden's character was obviously wise beyond her years and very caring ... I still wonder how many kids would be that unselfish. I wasn't sure that I wanted her to give her father permission (maybe I was thinking that she would have simply accepted the fact, without it being her idea).
Anyhow, I hope this doesn't come across as criticism. I really enjoyed the movie. I'm just thinking out loud.
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Interesting dialogue with DR Jennifer and DR Panni.
In very general terms, the reason why we in OZ dislike so many USA TV programmes and movies is the patriotism "Barf" factor. It really is very much a cultural difference.
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Jennifer all along I felt he should stay, even before 911. Did he have a career option if he left? To me it staying was more realistic guess because Keith’s job took him so far from home. The kids and I didn’t like it but it was his job
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With Keith's permission.
Wishing
She's lying on the bed
Across the room
Sewing on a blue shirt,
Mending my abuses.
Now and then
She lifts her head
From what she's doing
And smiles at me.
I smile back.
She's beautiful you know.
There's a strange light
In her eyes;
Her child-laugh
And woman-look
Are enough to kill the thoughts
Of anyone
Or anything else.
I sit here
Wishing
To be a
Blue shirt.
June 1, 1970
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I think maybe part of my problem was that while Hayden's character was obviously wise beyond her years and very caring ... I still wonder how many kids would be that unselfish. I wasn't sure that I wanted her to give her father permission (maybe I was thinking that she would have simply accepted the fact, without it being her idea).
A couple of times my children gave Keith “permission” to move. I expect they regretted it later-but what’s a kid to do. Trying to change the situation was one way Hayden was unique.
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The backstairs gossip at MONK about this is that all three supporting actors, Bitty, Ted, and George, were angling for raises (MONK has become the highest rated series on basic cable), and that in Bitty's case (perhaps because she asked for more since she is in more scenes), they weren't forthcoming with enough raise. Ted and George are returning.
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;D
Applause for Keith and DRJANE
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“Television networks are increasingly willing to take a hard line against raise-seeking actors who aren’t absolutely essential to the show.”
I think not only is she essential but the relationship between her son and Monk are some of the finer moments in the show. To me it is Lieutenant Randall Disher’s character that is often a silly weak link. Often he doesn’t need to be a regular on the show and I wonder why he is even there-like when they went to NY. I will admit his role in the last few episodes has been better than in the past.
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off to dinner and rehearsal.....whew! No more leads, let the young people have them...I want my old part back.
Last night, we were doing the last bit of THE NERD, and even though I was playing Rick, I couldn't remember anything but Axel's lines...and I played Axel in 1992! The set was the same and the blocking was similar....and it just sent me over the edge....whew....
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Thank you JRand. :)
Have fun at rehearsal.
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Lovely poem Keith and Jane.
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Jennifer - I think under the circumstances you'd do the same thing (give dad permisssion, that is).
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Thank you Panni. I'm not sure I deserve any more credit than having the sense to marry Keith. :-[
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More from Panni's beautiful home town.
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The dome inside the church.
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Under the dome :)
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Last photo of the day.
We arrived at the Cathedral in-between weddings. We were enchanted with this little flower girl.
She kept skipping up and down the stairs and Keith had to take multiple photos to capture her in just the right pose. I was relieved we weren’t noticed. ;D
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Wow, Jane! No wonder you married Keith...what a beautiful poem!
Good line memorizing vibes to JRand54!!
(http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/linie/smiley-linie-011.gif)
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that photo of the little flower girl looks like it should be in a magazine of some type! Very nice photo!!
And the church is great!
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Well, keep them good vibes and xylophones coming strongly because so far they iz working.
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Jennifer all along I felt he should stay, even before 911. Did he have a career option if he left? To me it staying was more realistic guess because Keith’s job took him so far from home. The kids and I didn’t like it but it was his job
That's interesting. I was actually stunned when he talked it over with his wife and decided to return home. I didn't think he would do that. And to me THAT showed a lot of courage. He was willing to sacrifice his career for his children.
I guess I was not thinking of him helping others, but merely trying to move forward in his career, to the detriment of his family.
I'm sure there would be other shorter term jobs he could take.
When Keith was away, was it for most of the year? I could understand a father having to go away for a couple months out of the year. But not to miss his kids' entire childhoods.
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Bruce, very happy they are working-more good vibes heading your way! :)
MBarnum, thank you and thank you. We could hardly keep our eyes off the beautiful little girl.
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Jane - the little flower girl - a very Hungarian pose! I have a photo of myself at around age 3, daintily pulling up my skirt in just the same way.
Tomovoz - Speaking of Hungary - One of the Aussie Olympic gold winners is a Hungarian Aussie - Suzy Balogh.
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Wow the sky in that first pic is so blue.
And that flower girl is so cute!
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When Keith was away, was it for most of the year? I could understand a father having to go away for a couple months out of the year. But not to miss his kids' entire childhoods.
He came and went constantly. He was a million mile traveler on Northwest Airlines. We still have free miles on United. The longest he traveled at one time was in South America for close to a month. Bryan was 5 and Craig 2½. I got very sick and Bryan had to help take care of Craig. That was the worst experience. Unless he went out of the country he was rarely gone more than a week. Only a few times did I have difficulty reaching him by phone. Russia was one of those. He had some great assistants that could relay messages from me and I did get to tag along on some great trips. We kept thinking Keith would travel less as the boys got older-never happened. I always knew he could come home if I needed him and we talked almost every day-at least once. I don’t think I could have handled him being away for months at a time but people do and they learn to live with it. If I had had family close by the separations would have been easier on us.
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Panni-post the photo.
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I agree with DR Jane. Bitty's character (and her son to a lesser degree since he doesn't figure in every episode) grounds the show and also supplies some of the funniest comedy the show has had (the second season episode in Mexico and the episode where she repeatedly told Monk to "suck it up," for example).
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I am a published poet.
It was in the Canadian journal Viewpoints which no longer publishes I had two poems published and I recieved 25$C for them. I think I was 8 or 9 years old. I only remember one of them.
The Game
There is a game
The hardest one
No one knows how to play
You don't roll doubles
Or get two hundred for passing "go"
The game is called peace
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I hopefully will know what I am doing by my bed time. I am hoping it will be L.A. The storm has taken a turn towards SE and Centeral Florida and they won't know by Thursday late. But by then it will be too late to make plans.
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I went to look for Swishy Sarah on the www and this is what I found
happy birthday!
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Panni-post the photo.
I'll try - but it's not very clear in the transfer. Anyway, here's little Panni of Budapest, in the typical Hungarian skirt lifting pose, age 2 years and 4 months.
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I'll try posting this one because I love it. There might be too much reflection from the glass (it's framed). It's a sepia photo of my mother's sister, my Aunt Georgette (Gyorgyi) -- who looked like Gene Tierney in her youth - as she was getting ready for her debutante ball. Notice all the flowers she received - and the gorgeous art behind her. This was pre-WWII, before the Nazis took everything.
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Tomovoz - Speaking of Hungary - One of the Aussie Olympic gold winners is a Hungarian Aussie - Suzy Balogh.
And here I was thinking that it was a Canadian plot to infiltrate the world. Hungarians are well remembered in Melbourne for the Water polo in 1956!
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...I could understand a father having to go away for a couple months out of the year. But not to miss his kids' entire childhoods.
There was a lot of my childhood (and that of my sister) that Dad missed out on, because of his job. He would have to leave for weeks at a time, and not know when he would return. Mom coped, ran the household, lived with not being able to talk with him on the phone while he was gone (he was doing engineering work with the defense dept.).
And there was too much that he wasn't allowed to talk about when he returned. Somehow, they managed to get through it all.
But it took years for myself and him to learn how to communicate, something we've only mastered after I became an adult. Was it a disfunctional childhood? Sure. But none of us are pointing fingers at each other, playing blame games. It's the hand that life dealt us.
We had it easy, compared to what Der Brucer faced raising his family. He had to spend months away when he was with the Navy, and after leaving the service found himself not "allowed" to help raise the kids. Every time he did, his wife would undo everything he tried. That's the real reason he left them, because he was pushed out.
I've seen similar things happen to other servicemen, when they return to their families. The families are already functioning without them, and are unprepared to reintegrate the fathers into the structure.
So, bringing us back to Tiger Cruise, I was rooting for the father staying with the Navy, and for the daughter to stop being such a selfish brat. The daughter in the film learned from the cruise what she was supposed to learn, crisis or no: that the military is a way of life, that the fathers (and others) are there for a reason, and that the families have to adapt. For that matter, the father of the cook learned the same lesson.
Good film, Panni, well written.
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THE FLETCHER CHRONICLES:
Right now, he's found the lid to a cardboard box, and has decided to demolish it.
Earlier, he and Bonnie were getting familiar with each other. Sure, she was baring her teeth and snarling (which he couldn't hear), but she was licking his nose at the same time.
Earlier still, while I was napping a headcold away, the whole tribe was "caving" with me on my bed, each picking a place. Except for Marty, the Lab. He's being the least accepting of this new guy with the spots. Some things take time.
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I'll try to get back later. Time to fix dinner (apples and taters and pork = yum!)
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Oy. Today's topic is too much like school. I'm going back to sleep.
Happy birthday, Swishy Sarah.
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Oy. Today's topic is too much like school. I'm going back to sleep.
And that's what's wrong with the way poetry is taught in school...
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Thanks, SWW.
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Evening all!
Michael Shayne
HHW God
Re:THE MOLD PEOPLE
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I understand a hurricane is headed my way. What to do what to do. I just might have to get a last minute airline ticket to LA and see What If?
At work, we have been getting 2 daily reports on the hurricane since Monday.
The latest information seems to show that it will pass Southern Florida and will be going into the Jacksonville area. Of course, as we all know, that could change in a heartbeat.
Considering this could be a very bad storm, getting out of town might not be a bad thing.
I sincerely hope that if you do find yourself in the storms path that you keep both yourself and your dear ones as safe as possible.
I have to say how much I am enjoying reading the FLETCHER saga. Is Fletcher already trained to American Sign Language and you both just need to learn it to talk with him?
Nobody answered my question! ???
S. Woody White
HHW God
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The Fletcher Chronicles:
If there is a problem with Fletcher, it is in his...well, in his farts. He has really stinky ones, and is not concerned about how unsociable they may appear (or smell).
I had to laugh at that. Brandi has the very same problem. I do hope you don't have to deal with diarrhea as well. That is a major problem with Brandi. In the winter when it gets to cold to leave her out all night long, I have to get up about ever half hour or so to leave her out (I know I need a doggie door) or deal with the consequences. Ugh. Not to be punny but I am always dog tired the next day! :D
Happy Birthday, Sarah! When I was 17, it was a very good year........
I love poetry but I fear I am not good with titles or authors.
I come across them in strange ways. For example, I am a fan of Loreena McKennitt who sings Celtic songs.
Imagine my surprise when two of her songs, The Highway Man and The Lady of Shalott, turned out to poems that I remembered from high school! I remember the first time I heard them and I kept thinking, “I know this but from where?” Had I read the notes on the CD, I would have realized sooner.
I would post them here but they are both quite long.
I have many other favorites but we have storm brewing. Gotta run. Lots of lightning. What a wonderful cool breeze it's bringing!
Have a good evening all!
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And one for Mahler.
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Panni you were soooo cute. It is a lovely photo of your aunt. Is that a seascape behind her?
As for traveling husbands/father’s. Sundays which are traditionally family days were the most difficult for me when the kids where very young. One thing I did with each move was join a newcomers club which helped tremendously. The best one was in Michigan. Not only was the club great but most of the husbands traveled so the wives could compare notes. (sexist or not, there weren’t any men in the club just lots of women.)
SWW your comments regarding DerBrucers family reminds me of a common theme amongst my friends, as in our house when the men returned our lives revolved around them. Sometimes that meant the rules for the kids changed too. I tried to be consistent but was too tired at times and it was easier for the kids to “play” me. In other ways Keith was so happy to be with them he let them have treats I didn’t allow. When Keith retired I found myself falling into “he is home” mindset until I realized he wasn’t going anywhere. :)
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Panni you were soooo cute. It is a lovely photo of your aunt. Is that a seascape behind her?
Thanks, Jane. Yes, it's a seascape. I don't know what's become of all that art. I have one of the paintings in the picture. A small farm scene.
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Danise thank you for reminding me I meant to comment on Fletcher’s problem. I hope this will help Brandi as well as Fletcher.
Belle, our previous dog we found had the same problem. I went through several different brands of dried dog food (changing them slowly as one should) until Iams solved the problem. :D Hopefully you just need to find the right food and today there are so many good ones out there.
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Panni I'm glad you have something.
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Well folks it is official. I am coming to LA. I will be arriving late Thursday Night. Spending Friday and part of Saturday in LA and then Saturday and Sunday in Palm Springs (Never been there) and leaving early Monday morning
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And oh yes I have tickets to see What If? On friday night!
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But before you leave DR Michael Shayne, don't forget to e-mail me your mailing address so I can mail you some bucks for Yvonne!
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But before you leave DR Michael Shayne, don't forget to e-mail me your mailing address so I can mail you some bucks for Yvonne!
Are you in the los angeles area Michael?
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What is the cross street on Santa Monica for the Hudson Theater?
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It is two nights running now that I will not have seen an opera or a show or a play or a concert or a recital or a film or a cabaret act or performing arts or cinematic event of any kind.
The withdrawal symptoms are beginning to make themselves rather apparent.
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What is the cross street on Santa Monica for the Hudson Theater?
Umm.....Hudson Street.
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Umm.....Hudson Street.
I thought the theater was named after Rock and not the street. Is it near anything like Paramount Studios?
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Can any in the LA area tell me what is the driving time from LA to Palm SPrings?
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Can any in the LA area tell me what is the driving time from LA to Palm SPrings?
It depends on where you'll be coming from and when you'll be going.
Leave from downtown mid-day or on the weekend and it'll take you two hours. Leave from the west side or San Fernando Valley on a Friday afternoon and it'll take you four hours.
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So many DRs are in my age bracket, and I was just wondering during your school years, were you made to memorize poems? We memorized lots of poems, lots of BIBLE verses, and then recited in class in front of everyone. I can still remember parts of "Oh, Captain, My Captain" by Carl Sandburg.
I never made any of my students memorize verses of anything to stand up before the class.
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For the first day in a long time, I didn't get a single DVD watched today. YOU WERE NEVER LOVELIER will have to wait until tomorrow.
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I thought the theater was named after Rock and not the street. Is it near anything like Paramount Studios?
I thought it was named after the sisters, Blanche and Jane.
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For the first day in a long time, I didn't get a single DVD watched today. YOU WERE NEVER LOVELIER will have to wait until tomorrow.
And, me, this afternoon, actually watched a full dvd!
As many know, a certain Mel Gibson film arrived on dvd today.
I didn't watch it.
Instead I watched the other "Christ" dvd that was released today with a spiffy new anamorphic transfer: JESUS CHRIST SUPERSTAR as envisioned by Norman Jewison and arranged by Andre Previn.
Universal did a fine job this time around, including a commentary track from Jewison and Neely, a nice photo gallery and an interview with Tim Rice. They dropped the trailer, however, which was on the previous release.
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It depends on where you'll be coming from and when you'll be going.
Leave from downtown mid-day or on the weekend and it'll take you two hours. Leave from the west side or San Fernando Valley on a Friday afternoon and it'll take you four hours.
Actually saturday morning
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I spy with my little eye, FOUR GUESTS, and not one of them is tomovoz!
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OK. I'm here.
Have to go though.. Dog food to buy.. Priorities.
Good to see I am not required to frenzy tonight. (today!).
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My goodness, where in tarnation IS everyone?
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Nobody here but us mice?
May I ask what happened to summer? It's just sunk in that in two days - one day, really - it will be September. Yikes!
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I believe we've had an Attack of the WUSSBURGERS.
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Now have enough food for our dogs to last them whilst we are in France. They should be OK if I just label the dishes with each day's date. Smart dogs.
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No wussburger I!
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I am here! But I've been recording the BBC radio interview with Andrew Lloyd Webber. He's been talking about his new show A Woman in White. I haven't actually listened to it, I just set it up to record and let it go. I'll listen to it at work tomorrow.
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Tonight was part 2 and I recorded part 1 a few days ago.
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Maybe if I post two more posts, we'll make it to page 6!