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Title: BEYOND THE VALLEY OF THE TIRED
Post by: bk on June 12, 2014, 12:04:29 AM
Well, you've read the notes, the notes were beyond the valley of the tired, and now it is time for you to post until the tired cows come home from beyond the valley.
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Post by: bk on June 12, 2014, 12:06:32 AM
And the word of the day is: GNATHIC!
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Post by: George on June 12, 2014, 12:20:11 AM
Topic of the Day:

Alan Menken (and lyricists)
Ahrens and Flaherty

These are the first ones that I can think of.  There will be more, I'm sure.
Title: Re: BEYOND THE VALLEY OF THE TIRED
Post by: George on June 12, 2014, 12:21:51 AM
Last month, I bought the iTunes download of the new live, concert version of "West Side Story" for $11.99 because the physical CD was going to be about $47 dollars from Amazon.  Amazon now has it for $37.52.  However, San Fransisco Symphony's own website (https://www.shopsfsymphony.org/shop/product.php?productid=2022?utm_medium=eStoreLP&utm_campaign=WestSideStoryCD&utm_content=WestSideStoryCD) sells it for only $29.95!  AND if you order it before June 16, you get free shipping.  I went ahead and ordered it.  I really do want the physical CD (which has a 100 page booklet), and the iTunes download was only $11.99, so it's all a bit less than the original Amazon price...and I still have a bit of my income tax refund left. :)
Title: Re: BEYOND THE VALLEY OF THE TIRED
Post by: George on June 12, 2014, 12:24:55 AM
And now, I must go to sleep.  Today, I'm taking my car in to get serviced.  I need to bring it in by 8:30 am.  The place I'm taking it is not the dealer.  It's pretty close, though.  They're just probably about a mile away from me.  We'll see if they find anything.

Good night, all.
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Post by: singdaw on June 12, 2014, 02:53:50 AM
TOD:


Adam Gwon (Ordinary Days)
Jeff Blumencrantz (songs)
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Post by: singdaw on June 12, 2014, 02:56:26 AM
~ ~ ~ CONTINUED INTERVIEW VIBES ~ ~ ~ for DR George and colleagues!!  I hope you find just the right appli-CAN!     :)
Title: Re: BEYOND THE VALLEY OF THE TIRED
Post by: singdaw on June 12, 2014, 02:58:04 AM
Today, I am the recipient of surprise tickets for Orchestra Hall. So at 11:00am, I will be taking in Mahler's Fifth Symphony. Amongst other things.      :)
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Post by: singdaw on June 12, 2014, 03:30:54 AM
Scotney Castle in Kent, UK:


(http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a532/singdaw1/mistymorning_zps0373effd.jpg)
Title: Re: BEYOND THE VALLEY OF THE TIRED
Post by: Ben on June 12, 2014, 03:34:41 AM
Morning all.

That is all.
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Post by: Michael on June 12, 2014, 03:37:04 AM
good morning to all
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Post by: Michael on June 12, 2014, 03:48:47 AM
i don't have any new favorites of composers out there
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Post by: Ginny on June 12, 2014, 05:42:31 AM
Thursday morning greetings!  Another rainy day here in SW Ohio, good for puttering and purging.  I may have to shop for Mom later today, too.
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Post by: Kerry on June 12, 2014, 05:45:32 AM
It's another day!
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Post by: elmore3003 on June 12, 2014, 06:06:53 AM
Good morning, all!  I stayed up too late and as a consequence got out of bed later than I prefer. I'm ready for more coffee.

My morning is uneventful, and then I will go to the NYPL and look at items in the Otto Harbach papers. I really hate the fact that the hours are later and I cannot be there earlier than noon.  On the way there, I will stop at my doctor's office and drop off the EMG results. I think I have another errand as well. At the moment I've forgotten what it is, but perhaps it will come back to me.

Okay, more coffee!
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Post by: Ginny on June 12, 2014, 06:21:21 AM
OK, I've done some AAUW work, ordered DN Lauren's (and Jim's) wedding present, and now it's time for a basement walk.
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Post by: singdaw on June 12, 2014, 07:00:16 AM
(http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a532/singdaw1/clouds_zps95658de7.jpg)
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Post by: ChasSmith on June 12, 2014, 07:11:03 AM
Good morning, all.

I can remember one crazy but oddly not-unpleasant dream, which involved me being about to embark on an unplanned 30-mile errand that had to be accomplished on some kind of motorized bicycle...in the snow!  But the weather was actually quite nice so that didn't seem to be a problem.  There was to be a longer trip, or something, following that, but I think the dream changed course before any of that actually happened. 

You know what?  Now that I think about it, it's just as well I'm awake!

Coffee!
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Post by: elmore3003 on June 12, 2014, 07:17:52 AM
I had a weird dream, too, last night, something about summer theatre and a diner/shake shop. The only person I remember in the dream was Ben Davis.
Title: Re: BEYOND THE VALLEY OF THE TIRED
Post by: ChasSmith on June 12, 2014, 09:08:48 AM
Post #19, at just past noon ?

And the last one was nearly two hours ago?   
Title: Re: BEYOND THE VALLEY OF THE TIRED
Post by: Ginny on June 12, 2014, 09:13:24 AM
OK, I've walked 'round and 'round the basement for 30 minutes, folded my laundry, and emptied a couple of shelves for Rob and Mary Linda to use for storage.
Title: Re: BEYOND THE VALLEY OF THE TIRED
Post by: Jane on June 12, 2014, 10:04:35 AM
From DR Cilla:
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Didn't mean to scare everyone away with talk of OJ, but hey they were posts

I found it very interesting the trial was a learning experience for you and your perspective of the trial.  I always wondered if the prosecuting team was picked for their inability to win the trial out of fear of a riot.

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Post by: ChasSmith on June 12, 2014, 10:07:44 AM
OMG, has this site been DOWN, or what?  Ignore my earlier post.  I think this explains the lack of activity. 
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Post by: Jrand74 on June 12, 2014, 10:10:58 AM
Oh dear once again words have become links.....I have to disable that extension....whatever it was.
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Post by: Jane on June 12, 2014, 10:13:10 AM
From DR Cilla:
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Johnnie was inspiring, not about the OJ case but about Geronimo Pratt, who he spent his entire career trying to free.  He believed an innocent man had been convicted and eventually was able to get him released.   

This is admirable & always nice to see the other side of a person.  On an emotional level I find it difficult at times to understand how trial lawyers can defend someone guilty of such a horrendous crime.  Yes, I obviously believe OJ did the crime. 
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Post by: Jane on June 12, 2014, 10:19:07 AM
I wish I had recorded the Dateline special
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Post by: Jrand74 on June 12, 2014, 10:30:18 AM
The G/D performance was okay last night....we had a bus load of 40 people who were arriving late, but they did call....so I held the curtain five minutes, and then I talked until they all got in their seats.  It was not a joyful way to start the show.
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Post by: ChasSmith on June 12, 2014, 10:34:24 AM
OMG, has this site been DOWN, or what?  Ignore my earlier post.  I think this explains the lack of activity. 

Just for the record, I wasn't able to reach HHW or Kritzerland for a good hour and a half, except for one brief interval when I was able to post just that.
Title: Re: BEYOND THE VALLEY OF THE TIRED
Post by: George on June 12, 2014, 10:44:30 AM
And now, I must go to sleep.  Today, I'm taking my car in to get serviced.  I need to bring it in by 8:30 am.  The place I'm taking it is not the dealer.  It's pretty close, though.  They're just probably about a mile away from me.  We'll see if they find anything.

Good night, all.

Well, they found something.  The right outer tie rod needs replacing and it will need an alignment, but it'll only be about $325.  Not too bad.  They'll be able to get it done today by 3:00 or so.
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Post by: ChasSmith on June 12, 2014, 10:46:55 AM
They always find something, DR George.

Always.

But it's good when it's not something horrendous, that's for damned sure.
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Post by: ChasSmith on June 12, 2014, 10:50:33 AM
Hell's bells!  That took us all the way to

PAGE 2.   Finally!!!

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Post by: ChasSmith on June 12, 2014, 10:51:09 AM
Let's hope that means our long national nightmare is over.
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Post by: John G. on June 12, 2014, 11:05:56 AM
Good afternoon, all.

Enjoy the Mahler, Singdaw. THe symphony here just did No. 5 over the weekend, but I was out of town. They always wait until I leave to do the good stuff.
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Post by: bk on June 12, 2014, 11:06:00 AM
I will now check on what the problem was this morning.
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Post by: bk on June 12, 2014, 11:07:21 AM
I got almost ten and a half hours of blessed sleep - and one of the few times I did not get up once during the night.  Boy did I need that.
Title: Re: BEYOND THE VALLEY OF THE TIRED
Post by: John G. on June 12, 2014, 11:10:58 AM
TOD:

Big fan of Flaherty and Ahrens, especially Ragtime, Once on This Island and the Glorious Ones.

I like some of Jeanne Tesori, including Fun Home and Violet. (Not Shrek, Caroline or Change, or too many of her songs for Millie)

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Post by: George on June 12, 2014, 11:18:52 AM
~ ~ ~ CONTINUED INTERVIEW VIBES ~ ~ ~ for DR George and colleagues!!  I hope you find just the right appli-CAN!     :)

Thanks, Singdaw! 
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Post by: Kate on June 12, 2014, 12:13:53 PM
Good Day all:


TOD:

BOUBLIL, SCHOUBERG, AND KRETZMER for LES MIS


FAVORITE SCORES:

Almost all of them from LES MIS!

Title: Re: BEYOND THE VALLEY OF THE TIRED
Post by: John G. on June 12, 2014, 12:45:54 PM
BK, have you ever done an evening of songs from jukebox musicals? You could have fun with songs used in Beautiful, Jersey Boys, Mamma Mia, All Shook Up, Good Vibrations, Movin' On, Motown, Baby, It's You, even shows that use older material like Play On, Happy New Year, Crazy for You, My One and Only, etc.
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Post by: elmore3003 on June 12, 2014, 12:46:11 PM
And I am home from the NYPL. I may be heading back in the next couple of days to do some digging on Historic Newspapers On Line.

My postman just told me the young lady delivering the post yesterday epically screwed up the mail on his route and he was doing some damage control today.
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Post by: ChasSmith on June 12, 2014, 12:48:34 PM
We have that here, sometimes, where a substitute carrier will deliver mail to my house number but the one on the wrong street.  The fact that this has happened not once, but on several occasions over the past few years, rather blows my mind.
Title: Re: BEYOND THE VALLEY OF THE TIRED
Post by: singdaw on June 12, 2014, 01:14:03 PM
Enjoy the Mahler, Singdaw.


Thanks - I did!  It was marvelous!!!!


The Symphony No. 4 on the first half was also spectacular. Kevin Puts.  He won the Pulitzer Prize for music in 2012 for his opera Silent Night.
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Post by: singdaw on June 12, 2014, 01:15:07 PM
it'll only be about $325. 


Aren't you sorry you purchased West Side Story now?      ;D
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Post by: singdaw on June 12, 2014, 01:19:25 PM
This Saturday is a milestone day in mass transit here in the Twin Cities. The opening of the Green Line light rail, which will take you from downtown St. Paul to downtown Minneapolis in about 40 minutes. You can drive this distance in about 20 minutes, but at rush hour the traffic can be tremendous - not by LA standards, but still...  Plus the cost and time of finding parking. With the light rail, no need to worry about those things.


The nearest stop is about an 8 block walk from our home, so it will be quite convenient.


Also, there is a stop right in front of the downtown church where I am working. We are hosting a drum circle outside on the front steps on opening day, and I'll be participating. We will be encouraging passersby to stop and join in.  Should be interesting!      :)
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Post by: John G. on June 12, 2014, 01:22:24 PM
ChasSmith, do you know when the next Criterion sale at Barnes and Noble will be?
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Post by: Jrand74 on June 12, 2014, 01:24:55 PM
Tonight is show 4 of 7.....so we shall see what we shall see.

Hopefully the audience will be in a jollier mood.  We are having glorious and beautiful weather which certainly helps.

I shall return.
Title: Re: BEYOND THE VALLEY OF THE TIRED
Post by: bk on June 12, 2014, 01:27:35 PM
A Kritzerland jukebox show is a GREAT idea - perhaps that will be our August show.
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Post by: bk on June 12, 2014, 01:28:28 PM
Had a cup of soup and a sandwich, neither of which was as good as usual, got the attorney-adjusted letter, went through it and made notes, and we've now finalized it and I'll have it to send in about ten minutes and send it I will.
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Post by: ChasSmith on June 12, 2014, 01:30:42 PM
ChasSmith, do you know when the next Criterion sale at Barnes and Noble will be?

Oh yeah, baby, I always know that.  :)

Someone grabbed a picture the other day of a sign that was ready to go up, reading July1st -28th.
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Post by: elmore3003 on June 12, 2014, 01:42:12 PM
Enjoy the Mahler, Singdaw.


Thanks - I did!  It was marvelous!!!!


The Symphony No. 4 on the first half was also spectacular. Kevin Puts.  He won the Pulitzer Prize for music in 2012 for his opera Silent Night.

I liked Silent Night very much. Cincinnati Opera is doing it this summer.
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Post by: elmore3003 on June 12, 2014, 01:43:04 PM
Tonight is show 4 of 7.....so we shall see what we shall see.

Hopefully the audience will be in a jollier mood.  We are having glorious and beautiful weather which certainly helps.

I shall return.

Break a leg, DR JRand63!
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Post by: Elan on June 12, 2014, 01:45:29 PM
Hi, all!

Sorry about the errantness & truancy; life has been... busy.

TOD: I haven't followed much of the last decade, so my definition of "contemporary" might be a bit out of date, but Violet was one of my favorite scores from the first listen. It took me a while to warm up to Floyd Collins, but that's probably on my desert island list too. I've probably nitpicked every song of his to death, but I really do love a lot of Jason Robert Brown's work.
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Post by: singdaw on June 12, 2014, 02:00:18 PM
This would have been more appropriate yesterday, but here is an article discussing the 5 most notorious performances of the Dance of the Seven Veils in conjunction with Strauss's opera:
http://goo.gl/2spfe9
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Post by: bk on June 12, 2014, 02:06:05 PM
Just before I sent The Second Letter, I got an e-mail from the president of the college - clearly trying to distance the college itself from what went on (that won't work) and basically saying now that I've been able to respond that everything was on track to wrap things up.  I'm sure once it's officially wrapped up I will get a subsequent official letter, but I immediately sent The Second Letter, because it is so damning in so many ways, that they will definitely want to take note, because I'm getting the feeling they are going to offer an official wrap up letter that will not acknowledge any of their wrongdoing - if that's what we get, the next letter will be from the attorney, after which we will decide if it's time to escalate this further.
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Post by: ChasSmith on June 12, 2014, 02:11:50 PM
This would have been more appropriate yesterday, but here is an article discussing the 5 most notorious performances of the Dance of the Seven Veils in conjunction with Strauss's opera:
http://goo.gl/2spfe9

I saw Maria Ewing do it in L.A. and knew that had to be one of the five.  But I just looked at the video they link to, and that's even more explicit than what I remember.
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Post by: singdaw on June 12, 2014, 02:23:29 PM
bk:  curiouser and curiouser!     :P
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Post by: singdaw on June 12, 2014, 02:24:25 PM
How many lightbulbs does it take to...


(http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a532/singdaw1/lightbulbs_zpsa2e67d0e.jpg)
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Post by: John G. on June 12, 2014, 02:48:34 PM
Tonight is show 4 of 7.....so we shall see what we shall see.

Hopefully the audience will be in a jollier mood.  We are having glorious and beautiful weather which certainly helps.

I shall return.

So happy your production is a success, JRand.
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Post by: John G. on June 12, 2014, 02:50:25 PM
A Kritzerland jukebox show is a GREAT idea - perhaps that will be our August show.

Summer fun.
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Post by: John G. on June 12, 2014, 02:51:22 PM
(https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t1.0-9/1555324_10152178482303628_2077880465_n.jpg)


I love this photo. And the caption's not half-bad either.
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Post by: John G. on June 12, 2014, 02:51:31 PM
Three!
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Post by: bk on June 12, 2014, 02:57:03 PM
Page three?  Really?
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Post by: George on June 12, 2014, 03:16:05 PM
it'll only be about $325. 


Aren't you sorry you purchased West Side Story now?      ;D

Because of what I was told that it would cost my car?  Not at all, because in the past the regular scheduled maintenance has been as much as $1200!  AND actually, I only paid $252 this time.  They fixed the tie rod and did the alignment, but didn't fix the oil leak.  They said that I could just check the oil a little more often, but it's not a bad or a heavy leak and it's not in a place that could cause some real trouble, so it's all good for now. :)
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Post by: George on June 12, 2014, 03:18:12 PM
Oh, no!  Actress Ruby Dee dead at 91 (http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-entertainment/20140612/US-APNewsAlert/). :(
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Post by: Jane on June 12, 2014, 03:39:12 PM
DR George thank you for the link to the story on Ruby Dee.
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Post by: TCB on June 12, 2014, 03:41:33 PM
(http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a532/singdaw1/clouds_zps95658de7.jpg)


Cauliflower?
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Post by: bk on June 12, 2014, 03:41:36 PM
What a lovely, long life Miss Dee led.  Ninety-one.  I don't think there can be upset about that, only celebration of an amazing woman and her long life.
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Post by: Ginny on June 12, 2014, 04:10:14 PM
Tonight is show 4 of 7.....so we shall see what we shall see.

Hopefully the audience will be in a jollier mood.  We are having glorious and beautiful weather which certainly helps.

I shall return.

Break a leg as you resume your G/D run!

And we'd like some of that glorious and beautiful weather tomorrow and Saturday for the AAUW garage sale, please!
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Post by: Ginny on June 12, 2014, 04:10:58 PM
Enjoy the Mahler, Singdaw.


Thanks - I did!  It was marvelous!!!!


The Symphony No. 4 on the first half was also spectacular. Kevin Puts.  He won the Pulitzer Prize for music in 2012 for his opera Silent Night.

I liked Silent Night very much. Cincinnati Opera is doing it this summer.

And are you coming to see it?
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Post by: Michael on June 12, 2014, 04:30:12 PM
Oh, no!  Actress Ruby Dee dead at 91 (http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-entertainment/20140612/US-APNewsAlert/). :(

I wonder if she knew what Audra McDonald said about her when she accepted her Tony?
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Post by: Michael on June 12, 2014, 04:30:43 PM
I wish I had something more interesting to post about.
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Post by: Ginny on June 12, 2014, 04:35:28 PM
Richard and I headed out about 4pm and our first stop was to make our final drop-off for the garage sale - my bentwood rocking chair.  I decided in high school that I wanted one and finally bought it about 10 years later, in the late '70s.  I soon realized that it really wasn't very comfortable, so we bought a new rocker when we were expecting Rob.  That one is still in the living room and the bentwood should have a new home by this time tomorrow.
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Post by: elmore3003 on June 12, 2014, 05:13:48 PM
Enjoy the Mahler, Singdaw.


Thanks - I did!  It was marvelous!!!!


The Symphony No. 4 on the first half was also spectacular. Kevin Puts.  He won the Pulitzer Prize for music in 2012 for his opera Silent Night.

I liked Silent Night very much. Cincinnati Opera is doing it this summer.

And are you coming to see it?

Probably not.  I'd rather be in Dublin next week seeing a lot of my friends in THE RISE AND FALL OF THE CITY OF MAHAGONNY.
https://www.facebook.com/OperaTheatreCompany in collaboration with  https://www.facebook.com/RoughMagicTheatreCompany
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Post by: Ginny on June 12, 2014, 06:07:11 PM
Given the choice, I'd take Dublin over Cincinnati, too, DR Elmore!
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Post by: ChasSmith on June 12, 2014, 06:09:30 PM
I would too, for a good MAHAGONNY.  Damn!
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Post by: elmore3003 on June 12, 2014, 06:22:52 PM
I would too, for a good MAHAGONNY.  Damn!

Two of my ROBERTA cast are in it, and David Brophy, who conducted DEAREST ENEMY and EILEEN, is conducting. Claudia Boyle, who's playing Jenny, was my first choice for DEAREST ENEMY but she was committed to Chicago Lyric Opera. I'm sure half of the orchestra is from the Orchestra of Ireland as well.
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Post by: Cillaliz on June 12, 2014, 06:31:01 PM
From DR Cilla:
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Didn't mean to scare everyone away with talk of OJ, but hey they were posts

I found it very interesting the trial was a learning experience for you and your perspective of the trial.  I always wondered if the prosecuting team was picked for their inability to win the trial out of fear of a riot.



That was the reason I've heard that they wanted to move the trial to downtown LA.  So that if a mostly black jury convicted him there would be less of a chance of riots
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Post by: Ginny on June 12, 2014, 06:33:01 PM
The chair I donated to the garage sale looks very much like this:

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Post by: Laura on June 12, 2014, 06:35:02 PM
Good afternoon. I spent the day at the Natural History Museum today.
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Post by: John G. on June 12, 2014, 06:39:53 PM
Listening to the dreary Cowardy Custard revue that ArkivMusic has released. Loved this recording on vinyl, but these discs have a really bad sound and I have to send it back because one disc is messed up. Has anybody dealt with them on that before?
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Post by: Cillaliz on June 12, 2014, 06:39:58 PM
From DR Cilla:
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Johnnie was inspiring, not about the OJ case but about Geronimo Pratt, who he spent his entire career trying to free.  He believed an innocent man had been convicted and eventually was able to get him released.   

This is admirable & always nice to see the other side of a person.  On an emotional level I find it difficult at times to understand how trial lawyers can defend someone guilty of such a horrendous crime.  Yes, I obviously believe OJ did the crime. 

It's a matter of believing in our system of justice for most of us.  Everyone is entitled to a zealous defense and everyone has constitutional rights. Too often law enforcement starts with believing they know who did it and builds a case to fit that conclusion rather than investigating the facts and letting them lead to the person who committed the crime.  It's a human reaction, not always intentional but it can lead to an innocent person being convicted.  The worse the crime the more pressure for an arrest, the more mistakes are made and corners are cut.  When it comes to constitutional issues, if you cut corners for someone because the offense is especially bad, it's not a stretch to cut corners for everyone else. 

I'm not saying that OJ was innocent, I'm saying that this is a motivating factor behind a lot of what we defense attorneys do.  PLUS...when you see people over charged and unreasonable prosecutors insist on ridiculous penalties for things that are just not that big a deal, it's not hard to fight to keep them in check
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Post by: ChasSmith on June 12, 2014, 06:40:09 PM
The chair I donated to the garage sale looks very much like this:



Wow!  A friend of mine just donated that same chair!  I didn't know anything about it.
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Post by: John G. on June 12, 2014, 06:41:01 PM
Have to take a sleep study tomorrow night to see if I need a different treatment for my apnea. Looking forward to getting the results and the new treatment, not looking forward to the test.
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Post by: Cillaliz on June 12, 2014, 06:48:37 PM
One more day until vacation
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Post by: Cillaliz on June 12, 2014, 06:50:31 PM
We were really busy all week.  Funny, I was so worried that things and slowed down too much.  Guess again.   It's actually ok to leave right now for a week. We have lots and lots to do when we come back.  So we'll be rested and ready to go
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Post by: Laura on June 12, 2014, 06:51:13 PM
There was an article about that recently in our local paper, Cillaliz. It is frightening to think that cases are built around convicting someone rather than finding the guilty person.
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Post by: John G. on June 12, 2014, 06:51:54 PM
One more day until vacation
I hope it's a relaxing one.
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Post by: Cillaliz on June 12, 2014, 07:12:26 PM
There was an article about that recently in our local paper, Cillaliz. It is frightening to think that cases are built around convicting someone rather than finding the guilty person.

It happens too often.  I really think it happens when the officer or officers honestly believe they have the right person - they are just wrong
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Post by: Cillaliz on June 12, 2014, 07:13:06 PM
Thanks John G.  I think it will be. I rarely take a whole week off.  I'm looking forward to doing crazy things like going out for coffee in the middle of the morning
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Post by: Cillaliz on June 12, 2014, 07:13:20 PM
VIBES TO ALL WHO NEED OR WANT THEM~~~~~
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Post by: bk on June 12, 2014, 07:13:36 PM
Page three?  Really?
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Post by: bk on June 12, 2014, 07:13:45 PM
Page four?  Really?
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Post by: bk on June 12, 2014, 07:14:08 PM
Watched a bit of All That Heaven Allows and Kismet, both looking and sounding lovely.
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Post by: Cillaliz on June 12, 2014, 07:14:16 PM
DR Laura, very sad to hear about the priests who were attacked in Phoenix.  Have they arrested anyone?  Are people in other churches concerned about their safety?
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Post by: TCB on June 12, 2014, 07:16:56 PM
Tonight is show 4 of 7.....so we shall see what we shall see.

Hopefully the audience will be in a jollier mood.  We are having glorious and beautiful weather which certainly helps.

I shall return.

Break a leg as you resume your G/D run!


 


Ginny!  Watch your language!



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Post by: vixmom on June 12, 2014, 07:21:46 PM
Laura I am sorry to hear about the priests being attacked  - how terrible
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Post by: vixmom on June 12, 2014, 07:22:50 PM
I wonder how Jack did with his G/D show tonight
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Post by: vixmom on June 12, 2014, 07:24:17 PM
Ginny I babysat for a family in the 70's that had one of those rockers  I spent many a Friday and Saturday night rocking their teething   6 month old while sitting in it
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Post by: vixmom on June 12, 2014, 07:27:12 PM
tomorrow is the annual womens dinner where  the youth of the church  entertain the ladies  of the church while the(the ladies not the youth)  eat their chicken marsala or roast beef

for the first time in about 9 years the Vixter won't be part of the entertainment  as she has moved out of  "youth" status
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Post by: TCB on June 12, 2014, 07:28:29 PM
Ginny I babysat for a family in the 70's that had one of those rockers  I spent many a Friday and Saturday night rocking their teething   6 month old while sitting in it


But they aren't really comfortable.
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Post by: TCB on June 12, 2014, 07:30:06 PM
tomorrow is the annual womens dinner where  the youth of the church  entertain the ladies  of the church while the(the ladies not the youth)  eat their chicken marsala or roast beef

for the first time in about 9 years the Vixter won't be part of the entertainment  as she has moved out of  "youth" status


She couldn't return as a "Guest Star?"
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Post by: vixmom on June 12, 2014, 07:30:52 PM
when you're 16/17 you can sit in anything and be comfortable
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Post by: TCB on June 12, 2014, 07:33:28 PM
when you're 16/17 you can sit in anything and be comfortable


But not when you are 60/70.
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Post by: vixmom on June 12, 2014, 07:35:36 PM
tomorrow is the annual womens dinner where  the youth of the church  entertain the ladies  of the church while the(the ladies not the youth)  eat their chicken marsala or roast beef

for the first time in about 9 years the Vixter won't be part of the entertainment  as she has moved out of  "youth" status


She couldn't return as a "Guest Star?"

they actually asked her to   but they were so disorganized that after several attempts to  rehearse with them she respectfully bowed out

I do not have high expectations for the entertainment portion of the evening
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Post by: vixmom on June 12, 2014, 07:36:08 PM
when you're 16/17 you can sit in anything and be comfortable


But not when you are 60/70.

or  mid 50's
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Post by: vixmom on June 12, 2014, 07:36:38 PM
Guess I can't claim that any more... later 50's would be more honest
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Post by: John G. on June 12, 2014, 07:37:05 PM
I know people like to make fun of that Kismet movie, but I love Dolores Gray in it.
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Post by: Cillaliz on June 12, 2014, 07:41:18 PM
when you're 16/17 you can sit in anything and be comfortable


But not when you are 60/70.

or  mid 50's

I was going to say that
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Post by: TCB on June 12, 2014, 07:42:10 PM
Guess I can't claim that any more... later 50's would be more honest


I can't remember that far back.
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Post by: Cillaliz on June 12, 2014, 07:42:17 PM
Watching CNN's series on the 60s.   I'm so over the 60s that I thought I wouldn't enjoy this, but I am. 
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Post by: TCB on June 12, 2014, 07:43:23 PM
I know people like to make fun of that Kismet movie, but I love Dolores Gray in it.


You could have my copy.
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Post by: TCB on June 12, 2014, 07:49:43 PM
Page Four?  Really?
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Post by: ChasSmith on June 12, 2014, 07:50:18 PM
By the way, DR John G., there are four times during the year to get Criterions at half off:  the two B&N sales in July and November, and Criterion.com has a flash sale in something like February and September.  Those are only for a day or two at a time, if I recall, but they're well worth catching.  In my state they don't charge sales tax, and whatever the minimum is, I easily meet it for free shipping.
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Post by: Jeanne on June 12, 2014, 07:51:00 PM
Hello, everyone.
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Post by: Jeanne on June 12, 2014, 07:51:36 PM
Add me to the beyond the valley of the tired. I woke up at 5:30 and couldn't go back to sleep.
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Post by: Jeanne on June 12, 2014, 07:53:53 PM
I bought a new car today. Most exhausting spending all that money! I'd forgotten how many G/D documents one has to sign. I'm usually a patient person, but by the end I was ready to say Oy and Vey and take your documents!
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Post by: Jeanne on June 12, 2014, 07:56:37 PM
I bought an Audi. Used. Even though it's a certified car with a generous warranty, I still had it checked out by my own mechanic. He raved over the car, but he did actually find something wrong. It needs an alignment, so I'll have to take it back to the dealer one day and get that done. It's not a big deal, but they'll take care of it.
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Post by: Cillaliz on June 12, 2014, 07:57:48 PM
What fun!  A nice new to you car!! Congrats!
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Post by: Jeanne on June 12, 2014, 07:58:58 PM
This car has so many bells and whistles that I'm still learning how to just lock and unlock it.
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Post by: ChasSmith on June 12, 2014, 07:59:03 PM
That sounds really great, DR Jeanne.  Congratulations!
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Post by: Jeanne on June 12, 2014, 08:00:19 PM
thanks, Cilla. I must say I'm tired of shopping.
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Post by: TCB on June 12, 2014, 08:02:28 PM
Congrats, Jeanne!
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Post by: John G. on June 12, 2014, 08:04:07 PM
By the way, DR John G., there are four times during the year to get Criterions at half off:  the two B&N sales in July and November, and Criterion.com has a flash sale in something like February and September.  Those are only for a day or two at a time, if I recall, but they're well worth catching.  In my state they don't charge sales tax, and whatever the minimum is, I easily meet it for free shipping.

I thought I was on the Criterion email list. Guess I'm not. Thanks. I'll check it out.
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Post by: John G. on June 12, 2014, 08:05:09 PM
Great news, Jeanne. You'll have to post a photo.
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Post by: Jeanne on June 12, 2014, 08:05:51 PM
I first looked at it last week, but it hadn't gone through inspection yet and there was no price on it. I assumed it'd be the same price as the others on the lot. No. It was fully loaded and more expensive. I wasn't at all sure the deal would fly, but it did. I got it for the price the others were listed at. I was signing all the G/D papers when a woman who saw it yesterday came in with a cashier's check to buy it. Oops. They have several others; maybe she bought one of them instead. This was a case where I could have paid less if I'd chosen another color, but I wanted white. I was told there were a lot of inquiries about it. It only came onto the website today.
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Post by: Jane on June 12, 2014, 08:06:14 PM
From DR Cilla:
Quote
Didn't mean to scare everyone away with talk of OJ, but hey they were posts

I found it very interesting the trial was a learning experience for you and your perspective of the trial.  I always wondered if the prosecuting team was picked for their inability to win the trial out of fear of a riot.



That was the reason I've heard that they wanted to move the trial to downtown LA.  So that if a mostly black jury convicted him there would be less of a chance of riots

Makes sense.  I believe if he had been found guilty there would have been a riot :(
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Post by: John G. on June 12, 2014, 08:06:15 PM
Listening to "Secret Life of Walter Mitty." Never had a recording of this on vinyl as I recall. This disc is in much better condition. And it's fun.

There's even a silly Irma la Douce joke on it.
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Post by: John G. on June 12, 2014, 08:06:35 PM
Good night, all. My lack of sleep is catching up with me.
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Post by: Jeanne on June 12, 2014, 08:06:40 PM
Thanks, TCB and John G.
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Post by: ChasSmith on June 12, 2014, 08:07:15 PM
Great news, Jeanne. You'll have to post a photo.

With you at the wheel, of course -- in your sportiest driving outfit.
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Post by: Jane on June 12, 2014, 08:07:28 PM
From DR Cilla:
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Johnnie was inspiring, not about the OJ case but about Geronimo Pratt, who he spent his entire career trying to free.  He believed an innocent man had been convicted and eventually was able to get him released.   

This is admirable & always nice to see the other side of a person.  On an emotional level I find it difficult at times to understand how trial lawyers can defend someone guilty of such a horrendous crime.  Yes, I obviously believe OJ did the crime. 

It's a matter of believing in our system of justice for most of us.  Everyone is entitled to a zealous defense and everyone has constitutional rights. Too often law enforcement starts with believing they know who did it and builds a case to fit that conclusion rather than investigating the facts and letting them lead to the person who committed the crime.  It's a human reaction, not always intentional but it can lead to an innocent person being convicted.  The worse the crime the more pressure for an arrest, the more mistakes are made and corners are cut.  When it comes to constitutional issues, if you cut corners for someone because the offense is especially bad, it's not a stretch to cut corners for everyone else. 

I'm not saying that OJ was innocent, I'm saying that this is a motivating factor behind a lot of what we defense attorneys do.  PLUS...when you see people over charged and unreasonable prosecutors insist on ridiculous penalties for things that are just not that big a deal, it's not hard to fight to keep them in check

I get all that which is why I said "emotional" ;)
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Post by: Jane on June 12, 2014, 08:07:55 PM
Have to take a sleep study tomorrow night to see if I need a different treatment for my apnea. Looking forward to getting the results and the new treatment, not looking forward to the test.

VIBES!!!!
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Post by: Jane on June 12, 2014, 08:08:23 PM
After 4 hours without, we now have power :)
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Post by: Jeanne on June 12, 2014, 08:09:20 PM
Cilla, I love your idea of taking next week off. I had intended to take a little staycation in May around my birthday, but had so much on my plate that it just didn't happen. Now that the car purchase is behind me I'll try again to do so.

Have a great time! I know you will.
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Post by: vixmom on June 12, 2014, 08:09:32 PM
Congratulation Jeanne!!  Please post a pciture when you get a moment
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Post by: vixmom on June 12, 2014, 08:09:43 PM
I keep dozinfg off
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Post by: Jeanne on June 12, 2014, 08:09:48 PM
Great news, Jeanne. You'll have to post a photo.

With you at the wheel, of course -- in your sportiest driving outfit.

Natch.
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Post by: vixmom on June 12, 2014, 08:09:50 PM
goodnighgft
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Post by: Jane on June 12, 2014, 08:10:45 PM
I bought a new car today. Most exhausting spending all that money! I'd forgotten how many G/D documents one has to sign. I'm usually a patient person, but by the end I was ready to say Oy and Vey and take your documents!

Congratulations!!!!

I hate all the paperwork!!!!!
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Post by: Jeanne on June 12, 2014, 08:11:04 PM
After 4 hours without, we now have power :)

good news.
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Post by: Jeanne on June 12, 2014, 08:12:29 PM
Thanks to Vixmom and Jane.
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Post by: Jeanne on June 12, 2014, 08:13:36 PM
Scotney Castle in Kent, UK:


(http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a532/singdaw1/mistymorning_zps0373effd.jpg)

Sing lives in the most beautious neighborhood!
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Post by: Jeanne on June 12, 2014, 08:15:11 PM
OK, I've walked 'round and 'round the basement for 30 minutes, folded my laundry

Is there any way you can fold the laundry while doing the basement walk?
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Post by: Jeanne on June 12, 2014, 08:17:08 PM
(http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a532/singdaw1/clouds_zps95658de7.jpg)


Cauliflower?

 :D

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Post by: Laura on June 12, 2014, 08:18:22 PM
DR Laura, very sad to hear about the priests who were attacked in Phoenix.  Have they arrested anyone?  Are people in other churches concerned about their safety?

I don't believe they have any idea who did it.

I don't know about other churches. I haven't talked to my minister about it. But I always lock myself in when I'm at the church alone.
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Post by: TCB on June 12, 2014, 08:18:31 PM
OK, I've walked 'round and 'round the basement for 30 minutes, folded my laundry

Is there any way you can fold the laundry while doing the basement walk?


Your laundry?  Or hers?



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Post by: Laura on June 12, 2014, 08:18:53 PM
Congratulations on the new car, Jeanne.
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Post by: Jeanne on June 12, 2014, 08:22:57 PM
OK, I've walked 'round and 'round the basement for 30 minutes, folded my laundry

Is there any way you can fold the laundry while doing the basement walk?


Yours?  Or hers?

Hers. I'm assuming her washer and dryer are in the basement and it just seems, well, more efficient.
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Post by: Jeanne on June 12, 2014, 08:23:31 PM
Thanks, Laura.
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Post by: Jeanne on June 12, 2014, 08:23:59 PM
Vixmom, how is the mystery cough? Have any of the docs chased it away?
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Post by: Jeanne on June 12, 2014, 08:25:00 PM
I'm about five seconds from brain dead.

Vibes to all.

And good night.
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Post by: ChasSmith on June 12, 2014, 08:25:44 PM
OK, I've walked 'round and 'round the basement for 30 minutes, folded my laundry

Is there any way you can fold the laundry while doing the basement walk?


Yours?  Or hers?

Hers. I'm assuming her washer and dryer are in the basement and it just seems, well, more efficient.

Yes, of course.  But if she could fold all of ours, too, it would be a great help.
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Post by: singdaw on June 12, 2014, 08:42:50 PM
Congratulations to DR Jeanne on her new car, a good deal, and finishing all the paperwork!!!!      ;D
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Post by: singdaw on June 12, 2014, 08:43:21 PM
~ ~ ~ SLEEP STUDY VIBES ~ ~ ~ for DR John G.!!!!!!!!
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Post by: singdaw on June 12, 2014, 08:44:02 PM
~ ~ ~ VACATION VIBES ~ ~ ~ for DR Cillaliz!!!
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Post by: ChasSmith on June 12, 2014, 08:45:18 PM
If you think car paperwork is something, try buying a damned house sometime!     :)
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Post by: Cillaliz on June 12, 2014, 08:49:55 PM
~ ~ ~ VACATION VIBES ~ ~ ~ for DR Cillaliz!!!

Thank you. 
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Post by: TCB on June 12, 2014, 08:50:02 PM
If you think car paperwork is something, try buying a damned house sometime!     :)


That would be a G/D house.
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Post by: Cillaliz on June 12, 2014, 08:53:42 PM
A Guys and Dolls house :)
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Post by: TCB on June 12, 2014, 09:43:12 PM
A Guys and Dolls house :)



Exactly!
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Post by: bk on June 12, 2014, 10:18:19 PM
Finished with my viewing.
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Post by: TCB on June 12, 2014, 10:55:47 PM
Goodness!  No posts in almost an hour.
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Post by: TCB on June 12, 2014, 10:58:15 PM
I think we are all too old to stay up late.  When we start looking for new members for our gay merry group, we need to look for young people and vampires!
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Post by: TCB on June 12, 2014, 10:59:26 PM
And perhaps some members who live in Alaska and Hawaii.
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Post by: TCB on June 12, 2014, 11:02:17 PM
BK, I am glad that the tide is beginning to turn in your direction with this "dirty business."  I am glad that you didn't let it just fall by the wayside.
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Post by: TCB on June 12, 2014, 11:03:59 PM
Victory!
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Post by: TCB on June 12, 2014, 11:04:59 PM
Ahhhh, I see George has joined me!
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Post by: TCB on June 12, 2014, 11:06:04 PM
Now I can toddle off to bed.
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Post by: bk on June 12, 2014, 11:28:53 PM
There was no way we were going to let it fall by the wayside.  They certainly had to do SOMETHING, that I understood right away, but the way in which they handled the something is so wrong on so many levels that it's actually shocking.  I heard even more this afternoon and I just write it all down and forward it to the attorney.  Several people who know the history are really telling me we should probably take this further, but all it is about for me is an apology that is meant and for the other stuff we've asked for to be carried out.  Whether their legal folks will allow that is anyone's guess - if they're smart they will, at least that's the way I see it.  I think no matter how they'd ever try to spin things we just have volumes of stuff that will show how everything was bungled from day one.
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Post by: bk on June 12, 2014, 11:29:13 PM
I think I'll take a hot shower right about now, then write the notes.