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Title: CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: bk on October 15, 2004, 12:03:08 AM
Well, you've read the notes, you know the meaning of their title, and now you are ready to post until the clickable cows with their clickable buttocks come home.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: bk on October 15, 2004, 12:05:56 AM
I'm very mellow right now.  Is anyone else very mellow right now?
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Noel on October 15, 2004, 12:12:44 AM
The true "baiting" was done by the questioner, Bob Schieffer, who asked whether the candidates thought homosexuality was something you're born, or the product of environment.

If it's environment, then, for much of prejudiced America, the Cheneys are "guilty" of raising their daughter in an environment that led her to lesbianism.  I think this is pretty ridiculous.  So does John Kerry, who said that if you talk to most homosexuals, they'll tell you they were born with certain feelings.

Mrs. Cheney keeps calling him a bad man, plainly, because she feels that she's done something wrong, raising a daughter the way she did.  She subscribes to the environment theory (unlike Kerry) and doesn't like being reminded of the results of how she raised Mary.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Jrand74 on October 15, 2004, 01:08:07 AM
I think I have been to a website with clickable buttocks.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Jrand74 on October 15, 2004, 01:09:44 AM
Friday...media check.

DVD: LES UNS ET LES AUTRES.  Eventually, yes, I will watch something else.

VCR:  THE OSCAR co-written by friend of DR CP, Mr Harlan Ellison.

CD:  The Patsy CLine Story - the only recording with one of my favorite songs she ever sang:  "Tra le la la la Triangle."
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Jrand74 on October 15, 2004, 01:10:39 AM
All alone am I
Ever since your goodbye
All alone with the just the beat of my heart.

People all around
Still I don't hear a sound
Just the lonely beating of my heart.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Ben on October 15, 2004, 04:06:52 AM
Mr. BK said last night:

"If one wants a proper corned beef sandwich one must go to Langer's on Seventh and Alvarado."

Or one could just hop on Jet Blue and come to New York City  ;) We have our own Seventh, granted it's an Avenue not connected to Alvarado but it's a long street filled w/delicious Jewish food.

I am currently listening to live streaming BBC Radio 3. Gershwin is Composer of the Week and they are reviewing Porgy and Bess at this moment. Previous to Composer of the Week, I listened to a recording of Orpheus and Euridice (sp). Since I know very little about opera and the various recordings I can't give more details other than it was the point where Orpheus looks back at Euridice and loses her. It sounded very well done. That's all I can say about it.

I have no plans for listening today. We have a busy day here. Also the last Saturday tomorrow. I will pop in and out for a break when the craziness gets too much.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: beckon on October 15, 2004, 04:39:18 AM
Media Check:

CD Player : Broadway Musicals Of 1964, Philip Officer, Steve Ross

Cassette: Big River, Mystery Of Edwin Drood, Bette Midler
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: William E. Lurie on October 15, 2004, 06:01:16 AM
DVD - I never thought I'd watch anything else first the week the THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT box set came out, but I am:  The eleven hour version of PBS's BROADWAY: THE AMERICAN MUSICAL of which only six hours are being telecast.

CD - With 11 hours for BROADWAY followed by all 3 ENTERTAINMENTs plus extras, who has time?
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: td on October 15, 2004, 06:02:05 AM
Media Check:
(not a lot to report)

DVD PLAYER:
LATTER DAYS as a friend came in from Cincinnati last night and HAD to see it.

CAR CD PLAYER:
HOME ON THE RANGE original soundtrack

HOME CD PLAYER:
JANIS IAN 1978 ("Hotels and one-night stands are my speed. . .)

COMPUTER:
BARRY MACKENZIE HOLDS HIS OWN - direct from the merry old land of OZ.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Stuart on October 15, 2004, 06:45:16 AM
Mr. BK said last night:

"If one wants a proper corned beef sandwich one must go to Langer's on Seventh and Alvarado."

Or one could just hop on Jet Blue and come to New York City  ;) We have our own Seventh, granted it's an Avenue not connected to Alvarado but it's a long street filled w/delicious Jewish food.


My thoughts exactly, DR Ben.  But you beat me to the punch.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: elmore3003 on October 15, 2004, 06:49:59 AM
The true "baiting" was done by the questioner, Bob Schieffer, who asked whether the candidates thought homosexuality was something you're born, or the product of environment.

If it's environment, then, for much of prejudiced America, the Cheneys are "guilty" of raising their daughter in an environment that led her to lesbianism.  I think this is pretty ridiculous.  So does John Kerry, who said that if you talk to most homosexuals, they'll tell you they were born with certain feelings.


Well, if Mrs Cheney would take the braces off her brain for one minute, perhaps she'd do some research:  I subscribe to the genetic theory myself, moreso since the book BIOLOGICAL EXUBERANCE examined homosexual coupling through the animal realm.  Benjamin Britten had three siblings, a brother and two sisters, of which one sister was gay, and there's some biographical intimation that Britten pere was bisexual.  I would believe that 50% of the children were gay was through genetic patterns over the home environment.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: MBarnum on October 15, 2004, 06:57:21 AM
Do enjoy your Astrud Gilberto CDs, BK! I just love her and own several of her CDs myself! Listening to her always puts me into such a good mood.

Media check:

DVD:
Chained for Life starring the Hilton sisters. Interesting movie!

Murder on the Campus: early 1930s mystery starring Charles Starrett...what a good looking guy he was as DR Elmore will agree.

VHS: Queer Eye, Desperate Housewives, Manhunt (which I thought was very dull, by the way).

CD: Nothing new, just listening to some World Groove.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Stuart on October 15, 2004, 06:57:38 AM
Media Check:

Car:  I actually listened to the radio this morning.  Howsabout that!
Office:  Still stuck on AOL Showtune station
VCR:  Last night's Survivor and Apprentice for the Dear Partner.
DVD: Empty

Last night we presented the Rochester Philharmonic on our mainstage.  The program was lovely, and not terribly challenging (a Mozart overture, some Brahms and Dvorak).  But as we are one of the campuses celebrating what is called "The American Democracy Project" I had requested that they include something appropriate.  The ADP is not concerned with rah-rah patriotism, but rather being a way to ingrain in students of a certain generation (namely the current one) ways in which they can become civically engaged.  Volunteerism, voting (natch), and basically believing in something  (oooh, a COMPANY reference).  The ADP says nothing about its components being pro-America, or even American at all, but of course most have been.  About America, that is.

At any rate, as their final piece, the RPO (Rochester Philharmonic Orchestra, in Rochestnut lingo) chose to play a fairly new orchestral suite based on songs from 1600 PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE.  It was lovely.  Not fabulous, but certainly lovely.  I never have picked up A WHITE HOUSE CANTATA, but was familiar with "Take Care of This House" and "Lud's Wedding" from several recordings, but the final theme was based on ""To Make Us Proud," with which I was unfamiliar.  It was very "Make Our Garden Grow," but still nice.
Overall, I don't think it works as an orchestral setting, but it was still nice to hear Bernstein's music.

It's a shame he didn't write more for the stage.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: elmore3003 on October 15, 2004, 06:59:42 AM
Well, this morning is laundry day, so I have to get into it before hitting the NYPL Theatre Collection.  I have to go through clippings of BABES IN TOYLAND, 1903, which are crumbling to dust, for an account of the Act One Scene Three transformation scene, involving glowing chrysales, opening flowers, twinkling lights, as the scene moves from the Spider's Forest to The Floral Palace of the Moth Queen (they don't write 'em like this any more!).  The two extant Glen Macdonough librettos say nothing about the stage effects at this point, although he's rather explicit about the opening shipwreck sequence.  Even that was more graphic in production: the reviews mention stereopticon projections of angels and demons onto the backdrop.

TOD:
DVD:  Fahrenheit 9/11, 2 DVDs courtesy of Michael Barnum, Latter Days
CD:  Haines His Way, Dvorak's Rusalka, Ethel Merman in Call Me Madam
VCR:  Nothing
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Stuart on October 15, 2004, 07:00:12 AM
Benjamin Britten had three siblings, a brother and two sisters, of which one sister was gay...

I am thinking they were not the only siblings in the world who were/are both gay.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: MBarnum on October 15, 2004, 07:01:02 AM
Hooray, I get off work at the hour of 11am! Then I must scurry home and mow the lawn before the rain hits. It has been such wonderful warm sunny weather this week but today will be the last of that for awhile.

My Bollywood movie for this weekend is: Aetbaar (2003) starring that hindu hunk John Abraham hot of his success in Jism. In this movie he falls in love with a lovely lass, but sadly her father does not approve.  :'(

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Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Jennifer on October 15, 2004, 07:17:01 AM
I'm not mellow I'm starving.

I've been reading about all your dinner advertures.  And it's not good when one is starving.  So I must eat now.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Jennifer on October 15, 2004, 07:22:58 AM
I have nothing in my dvd player, and nothing in my cd player.  But I have lots in my VCR (and will have more when my sis brings over some stuff).  

In my VCR I have: last night's Joey, and the night before's Smallville.

And soon to be in my VCR: WED UPN night, Angels in America, and movies (A Guy Thing, Cold Creek Manor, Girl with a Pearl Earring, and probably a couple more I'm forgetting).
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: MBarnum on October 15, 2004, 07:23:33 AM
I think I have been to a website with clickable buttocks.

LOL! That gave me my laugh of the day!  ;D
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Jrand74 on October 15, 2004, 07:25:49 AM
Do any West Coast DR's ever see Susan Kohner Weitz out and about?
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Jrand74 on October 15, 2004, 07:26:20 AM
Off at 11 am, DRBARNUM.....state employee, no doubt.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: MBarnum on October 15, 2004, 07:26:49 AM
For Godzilla fans (and you know who you are) the latest Godzilla movie (said to be the final one) is coming to DVD this December 14...Godzilla: Tokyo S.O.S.! Also on that same date is Son of Godzilla...both movies will have original Japanese language with subtitles! Woohoo!
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: MBarnum on October 15, 2004, 07:28:02 AM
Of course I am a state employee...I am playing on the internet aren't I!
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Matt H. on October 15, 2004, 07:29:28 AM
Last night, S. Woody wrote:

Quote from: Matt H. on Yesterday at 08:37:07pm
Tonight on WILL & GRACE, for only the third time in its seven year run, Will Truman, the gay lawyer character, kissed another man.
 
 

Is that good for Bush, or that good for Kerry?

-- this is not a question!


I'm glad it's not because I don't understand what you're driving at.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Panni on October 15, 2004, 07:53:56 AM
Good morning. I have tons to do, so I shall simply and briefly state that - YES - I should have gone to Art's (or anywhere other than Jerry's) - but I didn't think of it. If I feel like take-out at night, I  just automatically head for Jerry's like a sheep following the herd off the mountain ledge. But as of now I stop this brainless practice, you hear, DRs? And I SWEAR - do you hear me? - SWEAR not to do it again. Hallelujah, brothers ans sisters, I am Cured!
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Matt H. on October 15, 2004, 08:08:08 AM
Another comment on the THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT box set that I commented about yesterday. The three TE films have all been mastered for DVD with anamorphic enhancement, so those of us with widescreen TVs should see a substantially imrpoved picture. Since I went for the bonux disc first before watching any of the films (which I've seen dozens and dozens of times), I didn't  notice that Warners had done this wonderful thing for widescreen TV owners. (There are the standard full frame versions of the films on the flips sides of the three DVDs.)

So, despite my peevish comment yesterday about their stinginess with their outtakes, I must give them a big thank you for doing this enhancement to the films themselves. I'll be watching III this afternoon.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on October 15, 2004, 08:09:26 AM
I caught a bit of Ellen DeGeneres's show the other week. She was raving about Jerry's meatloaf.

One of the best local brands of corned beef and salami is Chicago 58. It's a Toronto company - they just like the name "Chicago." You find their meats at some of the better delis. I once thought I'd go to their factory (meatery?) and pick up something directly. The place turned out to be a dump - an old house on Lippincott Street (that's downtown Toronto). I walked through the door and into a smelly room that was empty save for a pair of old boots.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Matt H. on October 15, 2004, 08:10:26 AM
Friday Media Check:

CD: NUNCRACKERS (OCR)

DVD: THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT III and SEVEN BRIDES FOR SEVEN BROTHERS (Special Edition).

DVR: Wednesday night's LOST
         last night's JOEY and WILL & GRACE (which I've already watched but will watch again)
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on October 15, 2004, 08:18:12 AM
Back to yesterday's TOD.

And this is NOT Jerry's. (It's Katz's.)

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Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Ben on October 15, 2004, 08:29:29 AM
And if we click our buttocks we will move to Page 2!
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: bk on October 15, 2004, 08:34:15 AM
I'm up and awaiting Mr. Direct TV Man, although I fear there will be nothing for him to do, as I'm NOT letting him move the TV or anything else to get to the wiring behind.  When I've done that in the past something always gets pulled out from somewhere and I end up having to call Mr. Wiring Man to come back and it's just too annoying.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Dan (the Man) on October 15, 2004, 09:07:32 AM
Le Check de Media de Moi (n'est pas?)

CD Player (at home):  The new R.E.M. CD  Feh...

CD Player (at work):  Carole King Tapestry

DVD Player:  Bell Telephone Hour Cole Porter Tribute   -- Nothing truely outstanding here, but it's fun to watch these old BellTel studio taped hours(Bravo used to show them a few years back.)  Vivid, vivid color, slight echo to the sound, very wide open performance space (or it appears so with the fish-eye lens--I suspect the space was actually smaller than it looks.)  Shows like this are primarily audio/visual/nostalgic comfort foods for me.

VHS:  I taped a local channel's home town meeting after Wednesday night's debate because a friend was supposed to be a member of the attendees.  But he told me yesterday that he got sick and didn't go.  Aw, well...
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Ben on October 15, 2004, 09:10:32 AM
DTM said:

"Aw, well...

so I'll finish

"Every day a little death, in the parlor in the bed..."
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: MBarnum on October 15, 2004, 09:44:11 AM
I am now deciding to leave work at 10am. Just call me DR Slacker.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Jay on October 15, 2004, 09:44:46 AM
I know tongue is not necessarily every Dear Reader's culinary delight, but over the past few weeks I've twice had tongue sandwiches at Factor's Deli, which happens to be close by the neighborhood of the young Benjamin Kritzer, and they were incredibly tasty and tender--probably the best tongue sandwiches I've ever had.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on October 15, 2004, 09:56:29 AM
DR Jay -

I like a tongue sandwich, too. So much so that a couple of years ago I picked up a pickled tongue at the kosher butcher's and simmered it in a large covered pot. Unfortunately the Dear Partner arrived home unexpectedly, lifted the lid off the pot and, for want of a better word, plotzed.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Charles Pogue on October 15, 2004, 10:07:18 AM
CD: Gene McDaniels: a CD reissue of two of his old albums, HUNDRED POUNDS OF CLAY and TOWER OF STRENGTH.  It does not include his two other big hits, CHIP CHIP, and the divine POINT OF NO RETURN, a favourite of BK's and a natural for the vocal stylings of Guy Haines.  

The CD is a bit all over the map, covering pop tunes, rock tunes, and even some quasi-gospel stuff like HE...Samplings: IT'S ALL IN THE GAME, ARE YOU SINCERE, PORTRAIT OF MY LOVE, RAINDROPS, LITTLE BIT OF SOAP...

You can actually see why McDaniels, despite his considerable talent, never became a big star...his choice of material (or the material chosen for him) beyond his four hits was rather neglible and the arrangements I don't think make the most of his voice.   I found this to be true also on a tape of his I have.  It contains the Big Four and then not much else.  This album is better simply because it does have some recognizable tunes that he performs nicely.  

Also he had trouble scoring in England because Hundred Pounds of Clay was censored for what were then considered objectionable lyrics and got no airplay on the BBC.  And it seems his other hits always got covered by some British artist like Frankie Vaughn whose cover version did better.  He did appear, however, in an Anglo-American 1962 rock movie, "It's Trad, Dad" ("Ring-A-Ding Rhythm" stateside) directed by no less than Richard Lester.  Also in the film: Chubby Checker, Gary "U.S." Bonds, and Del Shannon.

In the DVD.  SHINER, starring Michael Caine.  Nice movie, though as with so many British movies, the sound mix is just awful.  You turn the volume up and things still just sound mushy.  It's not the accents.  It's just they seem to keep all the music and ambient sound at the same damn level of the dialogue.  I've never understood this.

I think I might be up for Oedipus Rex translated by William Butler Yeats, directed by Tyrone Guthrie, and starring Douglas Campbell...all in Greek masks.

BOOKS on the nightstand:  THE OCTOBER HORSE, the last massive tome in Colleen McCullough's massive series of massive tomes in her First Man In Rome series...six volumes, each somewhere between 500-700-odd pages, detailing the reigns of Marius, Sulla, and Caesar.

A couple books for work purposes.

CALVIN & HOBBES...The Sunday Pages 1985-1995.  The funniest comic strip ever.  When it stopped, I pretty much stopped reading the newspaper comics.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Jay on October 15, 2004, 10:08:43 AM
On the whole, Miss Melissa Manchester's show last night at the Cinegrill was a disappointment.  Her voice is still in great shape, and it was a real pleasure to hear "Don't Cry Out Loud" sung as an introspective ballad (as opposed to the overt anthem Miss Manchester recorded and from which she no doubt has drawn great wealth.)  She alternated old material with new material from her new album and, truth be told, most of the new stuff all sounds the same:  a rather dated pastiche of Carol King/Carole Bayer Sager-type chick ballads.  (Sorry, but I can't think of any term more descriptive.)  Miss Manchester explained that she is making a comeback return now that her kids have grown.  But what outlet can her music possibly have?  They don't play this kind of music on the radio these days and they certainly don't feature artists like Miss Manchester on television anymore.  I wish her luck, but am concerned that she will be having a tough go of things.

And on the subject of lousy food, my dinner last night at the Cinegrill fell squarely into that category:  an oversalted, lukewarm shrimp bisque with some crabmeat on top as garnish and an oversalted piece of salmon steak swimming in some kind of oversalted cheesy sauce.  The Dear Father and Stepmother did a little better, each with some salad and half of what must have been the smallest chicken ever brought to market.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Dan (the Man) on October 15, 2004, 10:10:54 AM
DTM said:

"Aw, well...

so I'll finish

"Every day a little death, in the parlor in the bed..."

D'oh!  "Aw, well..." is typically a Krapp's Last Tape reference for me.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Jay on October 15, 2004, 10:15:06 AM
DR Jay -

I like a tongue sandwich, too. So much so that a couple of years ago I picked up a pickled tongue at the kosher butcher's and simmered it in a large covered pot. Unfortunately the Dear Partner arrived home unexpectedly, lifted the lid off the pot and, for want of a better word, plotzed.

Shades of Fatal Attraction.

Reminds me of the time (I must have been in college at the time and at home on school break) that the Dear Brother/Dear Reader Stuart came home, opened the refrigerator and discovered some live crustaceans I had bought for a special meal that night crawling around in there.  It took us quite a while to get him down from the ceiling.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: JMK on October 15, 2004, 10:26:54 AM
Yes, I have been abysmally E&T lately, but with good reason (or at least I think so).  I am a year older (unfortunately no wiser) since I last posted, and with that age came the most amazingly protracted backache I have ever experienced.  Oy, oy, oy.  Only now, about a month and a half later, and with one chiropractic appointment under my neck (so to speak) and alot of self-chiropractic, do I feel myself returning to normal (or whatever passes for normal with me :) ).

Re:  The Oscar.  That has, of course, a delicious score by Percy Faith with what must be one of the most beautiful mid-60s ballads ever written, in that era when so many were: Maybe September.  Unfortunately, my contacts in the Faith-reissuing biz tell me a CD release of the soundtrack album probably won't happen due to the incalcitrance of Mr. Tony Bennett, who evidently has a separate deal on his vocals on the soundtrack recording.

Re:  CD/DVDs.  I am currently listening to the brilliant Brasilian pianist/composer Joao Donato.  Those of you who get your quasi-Brasilian fix with Astrud should listen to some of the real thing sometime.  Astrud is fine and well, mind you (though her stepdaughter Bebel is much preferable, IMHO), but there's so much more you could be enjoying--call me, I have a 10 foot tall collection of Brasilian CDs and can make recommendations, as DR MBarnum will attest.  :)  In the DVD department, I'm watching the noir thriller Black Angel, with Miss June Vincent resolutely refusing to pronounce any "r"'s.

And finally for your mental delectation, I share with you two quotes I emailed to JR earlier today.  As you may guess, I get some very strange emails from Frances Farmer fans from all over the world, but this new guy really takes the cake (no mean feat).  First of all, he insists Frances lived in a downstairs apartment from him in the late 50s and early 60s in the Bronx (she was in Indy at the time) and thought she was his mother.  However, he's since moved on from that particular delusion and has sent me, as I told JR, these priceless communiques from beyond the Twilight Zone.  If you can figure out what the hell he's talking about, please let me know:

Priceless communique #1:
You might find this interesting I just became aware that young lady who
is the daughter of an old girl friend
who appears to resemble this woman I knew and also sort of looks like
Ms. Farmer, actually prettier, is my offspring as well.

However it is probably a subjected view point on my part.

You are making my story very exciting and i admit I am letting my
imagination run wild.


Priceless communique #2:
This it had all the right information just what I need to know this
makes the mystery
more fun and harder to guess the identity of the person. Of course I
don't know either
so it doesn't really matter who the woman was and the motive will be
the readers problem
I only have to put it to words.


Truer words was never spoke, as the grammatically incorrect pundits say.  :)

Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Stuart on October 15, 2004, 10:29:28 AM
Shades of Fatal Attraction.

Reminds me of the time (I must have been in college at the time and at home on school break) that the Dear Brother/Dear Reader Stuart came home, opened the refrigerator and discovered some crustaceans I had bought for a special meal that night crawling around in there.  It took us quite a while to get him down from the ceiling.

If only because I didn't know which dishes we were going to use.

Can be raw fish, can be cooked fish
Don't matter that I'm Jewish.
I'm squeamish unless it's dead fish.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: JMK on October 15, 2004, 10:31:54 AM
Now that I see my new e-friend's messages in large print, and posted with his original "carriage returns", I think I get it:  he's obviously writing free-form verse a la Charles Bukowski.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Stuart on October 15, 2004, 11:06:52 AM
Now that I see my new e-friend's messages in large print, and posted with his original "carriage returns", I think I get it:  he's obviously writing free-form verse a la Charles Bukowski.

I think they are more like the rantings of Claude Hooper Bukowski.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Ben on October 15, 2004, 11:13:31 AM
DTM said:

"D'oh!  "Aw, well..." is typically a Krapp's Last Tape  reference for me."

Well, I must admit, that Aw is usually spelled, Ahh or Ah, but when I saw it I couldn't resist  :D
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on October 15, 2004, 12:00:48 PM
DR JMK,

A year older as in birthday or in Jewish New Year? If the former - a happy belated one.

And good back-health vibes to you. May things go from a triple oy to a zero oy in no time.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: S. Woody White on October 15, 2004, 12:04:24 PM
The true "baiting" was done by the questioner, Bob Schieffer, who asked whether the candidates thought homosexuality was something you're born, or the product of environment.

If it's environment, then, for much of prejudiced America, the Cheneys are "guilty" of raising their daughter in an environment that led her to lesbianism.  I think this is pretty ridiculous.  So does John Kerry, who said that if you talk to most homosexuals, they'll tell you they were born with certain feelings.

Mrs. Cheney keeps calling him a bad man, plainly, because she feels that she's done something wrong, raising a daughter the way she did.  She subscribes to the environment theory (unlike Kerry) and doesn't like being reminded of the results of how she raised Mary.
Oh, come now, Noel, it's just as plain that she feels that dragging her family into the campaign to be a below-the-belt blow.  There's no solid evidence that she's feeling guilty at all, only supposition.

The following news release from Log Cabin Republicans may be of interest:

*****
News Release
For Immediate Release
October 14, 2004   Printer Friendly
 
Contact: Christopher Barron
Log Cabin Republicans Public Affairs
(202) 347-5306 (O) or (202) 297-9807 (M)
press@logcabin.org

Log Cabin Republicans Statement on Senator Kerry's Comments Regarding Mary Cheney

Statement by Log Cabin Executive Director Patrick Guerriero

(Washington, DC)—"Senator Kerry could have made his point about gay and lesbian Americans without mentioning the Vice-President's daughter.

However, this shouldn't distract us from the fact that President Bush, Karl Rove and other Republicans have been using gay and lesbian families as a political wedge issue in this campaign.  

Log Cabin Republicans have a message for both campaigns.  For Senator Kerry and Senator Edwards, you do not need to talk about the Vice President's daughter in order to discuss your positions on gay and lesbian issues.  For President Bush and Karl Rove, you have a moral obligation to stop using gay and lesbian families as a political wedge issue.  Our country and our party deserve better."

###

Log Cabin Republicans is the nation's largest organization of Republicans who support fairness, freedom, and equality for gay and lesbian Americans.  Log Cabin has state and local chapters nationwide, a full-time Washington office, and a federal political action committee.  

*****

End quote.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: S. Woody White on October 15, 2004, 12:09:28 PM
Last night, S. Woody wrote:

Quote from: Matt H. on Yesterday at 08:37:07pm
Tonight on WILL & GRACE, for only the third time in its seven year run, Will Truman, the gay lawyer character, kissed another man.
 
 

Is that good for Bush, or that good for Kerry?

-- this is not a question!


I'm glad it's not because I don't understand what you're driving at.

Sorry, but I'm not the one who made the post.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: elmore3003 on October 15, 2004, 12:12:56 PM
Well, on my way down to the Library, I checked out the newspapers and found the whole Cheney-Kerry brouhaha.  Now, I'm puzzled:  what did he do wrong by mentioning the gay daughter?  Edwards did the same thing.  It's not Kerry's fault that he brought up the hypocricy of the gay daughter of a man representing a governing party claiming (since the religious right has definite proof) that homosexuals are a sty in the eyes of God, that the sanctimony(!) of marriage is only for a man and woman, that an ignoble and inept conflict in Iraq is a war against terror, and that if you're not a Christian, like the Aryan, you'd better apply for honorary status.

I've got two brothers on their third marriage each, and I love them and most of my current and ex sisters-in-law but I'm damned if I see sanctimony anywhere in it.  The ability of a heterosexual couple to change partners like underwear seems so holy that I want to plotz!  Maybe we should establish rulings for married couples before they get health insurance, tax breaks, deductions for children, etc.  I'm so mad I could spit (a GOLDEN APPLE reference).
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on October 15, 2004, 12:15:16 PM
DR SWW,

What does Log Cabin feel about Mary Cheney being her father's campaign manager? Regardless of her father's personal position on gay marriage, I don't understand how she can assume that role.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Jane on October 15, 2004, 12:18:02 PM
DRLura I must be missing something because I didn’t know you had lost your travel privileges.  Are you going someplace?
If you gave up meat and became anemic you weren’t eating properly.  I suggest eating fish instead of red meat.

François I’m looking forward to the details and photos from Tom.  I can’t believe their sitter called to mention the dogs were lost unless Tom might have suggested where to find them.  Thank goodness the story has a happy ending. :D

We finally watched the debate last night-and Kerry’s comment on Cheney’s daughter seemed inappropriate and stupid to us.  The more I watch Kerry the more I dislike him which makes me very sad.  :( Most of the time I think he makes Bush look good, which makes me feel even worse. :'(

Jose the theater sounds lovely.

I only enjoy breakfast at Jerry’s, soft boiled egg and a toasted egg bagel.  For lunch or dinner I love Nate 'n Al's  in Beverly Hills.  I can’t recall if I have ever eaten at Art’s.  How long has it been there?

Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: elmore3003 on October 15, 2004, 12:19:35 PM
I've also heard from a friend in Toledo that there's been a Watergate-type break-in at the Democratic headquarters:  all hockable items were safe, they stole the computers with data banks and election protection strategies and info on the 200+ attorneys trying to keep the election clean.  Is Toledo going to be this year's Florida in the election?
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: elmore3003 on October 15, 2004, 12:20:42 PM
DR SWW,

What does Log Cabin feel about Mary Cheney being her father's campaign manager? Regardless of her father's position on gay marriage, I don't understand how she can assume that role.

It's like asking the Rabbi of Warsaw to help elect Adolph Hitler, doncha think?
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: S. Woody White on October 15, 2004, 12:23:42 PM
Media report:

DVDs:

On top of Aladdin and the trove of horror films we picked up from WalMart, which I reported on earlier this week, a trove has arrived from A&E (finally!), including all the Diana Rigg Avengers episodes, the filmed stage production of Nicholas Nickleby with Roger Rees, and Victory At Sea.  This should keep me occupied for a while.

Plus a two-pack we picked up yesterday, Kiss Me Kate and High Society.

CAR CD PLAYER:

We didn't play anything while travelling yesterday.  On our trip northward, der Brucer wanted to talk politics (local, not national; we're still figuring out this new home of ours, which is very topsy-turvy at times), and on the trip back we had the news on the radio most of the way.  It was very foggy during last night's drive, as well, Legend of Sleepy Hollow weather, which was interesting.

FURTHERMORE:

Along with the new electric keyboard/synthesizer that der B bought for himself (which will no doubt bring music to our ears once he gets the rust out of his fingers), he also bought himself a new computer.  The old one he's been using has just about clanked it's last clank.  Hopefully, this will mean he will start posting again soon.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Jane on October 15, 2004, 12:25:52 PM
I know tongue is not necessarily every Dear Reader's culinary delight, but over the past few weeks I've twice had tongue sandwiches at Factor's Deli, which happens to be close by the neighborhood of the young Benjamin Kritzer, and they were incredibly tasty and tender--probably the best tongue sandwiches I've ever had.

At Factor’s I have an egg salad sandwich on challa.  It is close to my mother in-laws place and down the street from a great florist, Sunny Alexander’s.  
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on October 15, 2004, 12:26:01 PM
Something that struck me as odd in the last debate, and about which I've seen no comment in either the U.S. or the Canadian press: In debate #2, on the subject of Canadian pharmaceuticals purchased by U.S. residents, Bush stressed that the issue was purely one of safety. Yet in debate #3 Bush said that they were hoping to make up the flu-vaccine shortfall through Canadian suppliers.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: S. Woody White on October 15, 2004, 12:28:35 PM
DR SWW,

What does Log Cabin feel about Mary Cheney being her father's campaign manager? Regardless of her father's personal position on gay marriage, I don't understand how she can assume that role.
Log Cabin has not taken any position on her participation in her father's campaign.  Frankly, I don't see any reason why the organization should.

I do know that she and her father are very close, and always have been.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Jane on October 15, 2004, 12:32:10 PM
JMK GOOD BACK VIBES! Ouch.  Sorry you have been having such a difficult time.  Happy belated birthday.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Jane on October 15, 2004, 12:34:01 PM
This morning we took Bogie to a third vet.  Three’s the charm because we are finally satisfied we have one that knows more than Keith, after all the research he has done, plus she commented on everything he does know.   She is running more blood and urine work than we had anticipated, even sending it to a special lab in the Midwest.  He is doing fine at the moment and we want to keep it that way.  Not much we can do for Echo, but there is lots that can be done for Bogie.

Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: S. Woody White on October 15, 2004, 12:39:23 PM
Best of vet vibes to DR Jane, Bogie, and Echo.

Our pack is on the antsy side today.  It's wet outdoors, and the younger ones want to play.  There's lots of dashing up and down the hall.  My bed has become a wrestling mat.

Since his new computer came with a new monitor, der B has decided to replace my smaller monitor with his old (and larger) one.  I think I'd better clean off my desk to make room.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: S. Woody White on October 15, 2004, 12:40:35 PM
Page Three Dance:

[size=20]The Puppy Pounce![/size]

If it isn't a real dance, it should be!
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on October 15, 2004, 12:44:19 PM
SWW - loved the puppy pounce.

And DR Jane, best-of-health vibes to Bogie and Echo.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Jane on October 15, 2004, 12:58:55 PM
I also loved the puppy pounce.

Thanks SWW & Dan-in-Toronto :)
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Dan (the Man) on October 15, 2004, 01:03:09 PM
If anyone doesn't believe that the Cheney's "indignation" about Kerry's remarks during the debate isn't politically driven, they should wonder why they didn't so much as raise an eyebrow when, during the GOP convention, Illinois Republican Senate candidate Alan Keyes called their daughter a "sinner" and a "selfish hedonist".  Why wasn't their anger expressed publically then?  Why is there such outrage when Mary Cheney is mentioned with respect by a Democratic opponent, but silence when an Republican like Keyes (who is running for Senate against a popular Democratic candidate) makes such malicious remarks?  

Keyes own daughter is also gay, BTW (internet lingo!)
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Matt H. on October 15, 2004, 01:17:29 PM
Inside the THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT boxed set of DVDs is the information that these musicals are coiming to DVD in 2005:

THE BAND WAGON

BELLS ARE RINGING

BILLY ROSE'S JUMBO

BRIGADOON (remastered)

THE BROADWAY MELODY (1929)

EASTER PARADE

FINIAN'S RAINBOW

LOVE ME OR LEAVE ME


All of these make me happy and excited, but based on what I saw and heard on THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT III, LOVE ME OR LEAVE ME is going to look and sound stupendous!

The other clips I thought looked superb in anamorphic enhancement were the excerpts from BRIGADOON (can't wait for that remastered version) and IT'S ALWAYS FAIR WEATHER where the color looked quite wonderful (especially for Eastman color).
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Ron Pulliam on October 15, 2004, 01:41:53 PM
I know many people have weighed in on this issue, but I agree with what DR Noel said about the Cheneys.

Also, I find it unimaginable that Mrs. Cheney would lose her mind so suddenly as to overlook what is very obvious to the rest of the world.

Her daughter is openly gay; the Cheneys have made her a part of their campaign; and gay issues are on the table.  By virtue of an openly gay woman sitting with the Cheneys, the Cheneys THEMSELVES have made her and her sexuality a part of the campaign.  Her supporting her father -- and, theoretically, George Bush -- makes a statement that she supports the administration's views on everything "gay" or "homosexual."  

I daresay that is NOT the case, although she doesn't seem to want to be quoted on anything.  But by being visible and out and sharing the spotlight with her family, she is subject to scrutiny and commment.

John Kerry said nothing untoward or cruel or mean or vindictive.  Rather, I think it's quite clear -- to anyone with raitonal thought capability -- that Mrs. Cheney is embarrassed to have a gay daughter and thinks she is for show, but not for discussion, and obviously does not think her daughter was "born that way," but thinks, probably, that she has "chosen" to be gay.

The problem is, the Cheneys (and Bushes) can't have her as a visible symbol/link to gay Americans without having her discussed.  

I'm sure Mrs. Cheney's major issue with John Kerry is that she doesn't want "it" talked about, but that's water over the dam -- it was water over the dam the first time the daughter shared the political spotlight in the campaign, and it was water over the dam when Cheney thanked Edwards for the kind words about his lesbian daughter.

Mrs. Cheney has shamed her daughter for political reasons.  The daughter must be absolutely mortified.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Charles Pogue on October 15, 2004, 01:52:56 PM
Elmore, I agree you on this Republican argument about the sanctity of marriage, a phrase which Bush uttered several times in the last debate.  When you have a divorce rate of somewhere around fifty percent in this country, there is NO sanctity of marriage!

Dan-in-Toronto, exactly! Why no high-profile umbrage when Alan Keyes railed against Cheney's daughter?  Why thank Edwards for his "kind words" about Cheney's family and daughter.  Why not jump all over Gwen Ifil for bringing it up in the VP debate?  Because the Cheney's protest is purely politically motivated.  We've already have caught Cheney in repeated outright lies with video evidence.  So this sort of duplicitious, deliberate, cynical flip-flopping should come as no surprise.

I was also disappointed that Kerry didn't jump all over Bush when he first stated we were depending on an English source for the vaccine (laying the blame elsewhere again...And it was a company in California with a manufacturing plant in England and it was the English authorities that stopped the shipment) and then saying he was hoping to fill the gap from Canada.  Hey!  Wait a minute, Bushie!  Didn't you ban drug imports from Canada?  Aren't you the guy that said they may come from third-world countries?  Kerry missed a big opportunity there.

Jane, no one can make Bush look good.  My first rule for voting for a president is vote for a man who is smarter than me. Well, that disqualifies one of them immediately. I'm only left with one choice, if I go with either of the two major parties.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Charles Pogue on October 15, 2004, 02:14:29 PM
RLP, very well said.  I think John Edward's wife hit the nail on the head the other day when she suggested that such an overwrought, unreasonable response by Lynne Cheney connotes some element of shame attached.  If the Cheneys love their daughter and are proud of her why should there be any outrage when the Democrats are praising both them and their daughter.  It's folderol obsfucation.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: elmore3003 on October 15, 2004, 02:23:03 PM
As long as we're discussing the Cheneys,  where did I just see an article about Vice-President Cheney's illegal command to shoot down one of the planes on 9/11?  Was it VANITY FAIR?  It certainly wasn't ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY, who - even though I subscribe - pisses me off regularly with their assumption that classical music, opera, or ballet are not entertainment for their readers (maybe we can  get CHORE CULTURE WEEKLY) and theatre's only good for once every whim.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Jane on October 15, 2004, 02:27:42 PM
CharlesPogue I think you insult yourself when you say one of those men is smarter than you are.  

I’m a Democrat and have been called a liberal.  I wanted to like Kerry.  I really did but can’t and I don’t trust him.  I might even believe Bush more than Kerry.  I don’t want to vote but will hesitantly.  For me it comes down to the issue that is most important to me, the environment.  Since I feel Bush’s actions since becoming president have harmed the environment I’m left with only one way to vote.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Charles Pogue on October 15, 2004, 02:36:07 PM
Elmore, I gave up reading Entertainment Weekly years ago.  Popcorn entertainment reporting.

Woody...or anyone who knows a great deal about foundling dogs,  Our new pup Tewkesbury is a very sweet critter...cuddly, follows one or the other of us everywhere, very well-behaved...perhaps too well behaved.  But he seems to have no sense of play.  I don't know whether this is still him just getting used to new surroundings, whether it's trauma from his past, or whether perhaps he was just an old lady's lap dog who never threw him a ball.  But I would love for him to show a little more enthusiasm for something other than cuddling and taking walks.  He shows no real interest in toys or rough-housing or chewing.  Any suggestions for how to instigate or engage him in play?  Or is this something that just going to take time until he becomes more accustomed to his new environment?  Or do we just have a mellow dog?
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: elmore3003 on October 15, 2004, 02:37:08 PM
DRJane, I don't know either candidate, but I don't have to like them.  I consider which one represents my best interests .  Mr Bush was quite vociferous about my money being spent, and I don't mind paying taxes for programs I believe in, like education, the arts, the environment.  What I don't like my money being wasted on are factions to suppress anyone's rights, to force one person's view of God down my throat, to support an immoral war under the guise of protecting us, and people who tell me it's raining when they're pissing on my shoes.  I think people like Falwell and Fred Phelps are an abomination to humanity but I will support their constitutional right to spew their hatred.  I won't let people who support them run my life.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Jennifer on October 15, 2004, 02:37:11 PM
Re: the flu vaccines

There isn't a shortage here in Canada too is there? (wondering if I'll have trouble getting one this year).
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Ron Pulliam on October 15, 2004, 02:37:46 PM
For heaven's sake, DR Jane...you don't mean Ralph Nader do you????
 ;D

Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: elmore3003 on October 15, 2004, 02:42:36 PM
Elmore, I gave up reading Entertainment Weekly years ago.  Popcorn entertainment reporting.

I feel a need to subscribe:  it keeps me informed about a lot of popular culture I don't need to invest any more time to, like J Lopez, Britney, and other sanctimonious unions, the crap I never want to watch or listen to but should know a smattering about, and occasionally I get something wonderful like a complete SEINFELD guide.  
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Jane on October 15, 2004, 02:49:53 PM
RLP ROTFLOL - NO WAY!

elmore I can't believe what Kerry says is the truth, so does it really matter if I agree with it or not?

Charles, honestly I haven’t seen that problem with a foundling.  I am curious now if Tewkesbury  will play with other dogs.  I agree with your guess he never had anyone play with him, or it simply isn’t his idea of fun.  Some dogs and cats just aren’t into playing.

Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: elmore3003 on October 15, 2004, 02:59:34 PM

elmore I can't believe what Kerry says is the truth, so does it really matter if I agree with it or not?


DRJane, I think Kerry believes what he says, but I doubt he'll accomplish much of it because he's a figurehead for the party, its lobbyists, the sponsors, etc., much as George W is.  The only difference is that I disagree with everything George W stands for, even though I don't think he's a bad man.  I think he's a puppet for a bunch of evil men, and I have disliked in 40 years of voting, many of the republican parties' decisions concerning what is basically the money you and I and countless others pay them through our taxes.

I believe the whole election system should be reconsidered:  right now it's a year of campaigning out of a 3-year term.  I think it should be a 5-6 year term to see how the administration does economically, belligerently, and socially.  Then you either re-elect them or behead them by guillotine in front of the White House.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Jane on October 15, 2004, 03:04:35 PM
elmore-LOL-sounds good to me.

I am researching wheel chairs, or carts on wheels, for large dogs.  We aren’t there yet but we need to think about this.  We had ruled it out but our new vet gave us some information and said to think about it.  She save a kitten that was paralyzed after an attack by a raccoon.  The kitten is in-between carts and was darling scooting herself around the office.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: elmore3003 on October 15, 2004, 03:11:05 PM
Elmore, I agree you on this Republican argument about the sanctity of marriage, a phrase which Bush uttered several times in the last debate.  When you have a divorce rate of somewhere around fifty percent in this country, there is NO sanctity of marriage!

DRCharlesPogue, when I think about the sanctity of marriage, I wonder if it ever existed.  In 1728, John Gay wrote this line for Macheath to Lucy Lockit:  I am ready to give you satisfaction in marriage, if you think there is any.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: DearReaderLaura on October 15, 2004, 03:37:36 PM
Good afternoon, fellow dear readers. It's a lovely day, sunny and 90F. Joshie the cat is happily sitting on the patio watching the activity at the birdfeeder.

TOD: House CD Player: Guy Haines
Car CD Player: "Give Me Jesus" by Bruce Ewing

Re Election stuff: I can't wait until it is all over with. We have one pair of local candidates flinging mud here and the city looks trashy with all the campaign signs. I am tired of taped candidates calling me on the phone. I think I need chocolate.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Ron Pulliam on October 15, 2004, 03:45:42 PM
Whatever do the sanctimonious-about-marriage make of the "marriages" that preceded Christianity?

Certainly seems to me that all the marriages that came before had NOTHING whatever to do with Christianity as the evangelicals describe/pray/live it...and, in fact, Christianity and God did not INVENT marriage.

The true question, then, ought to be whether the government is going to mandate laws based on ONE RELIGION's beliefs in a country where freedom from religious persecution/prejudice is supposedly protected by that country's constitution.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Ron Pulliam on October 15, 2004, 03:47:17 PM
DVDs new to me:

"The Day After Tomorrow" (watched it Wednesday evening....lots of fun, imminently forgettable, but that means it will be fun to watch AGAIN).

Received today:

"Calamity Jane", "Damn Yankees," "That's Entertainment" (4-DVD set), and "Seven Brides for Seven Brothers" (2-DVD set).

YOICKS!
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: François de Paris on October 15, 2004, 03:53:15 PM
Quote from BK, yesterday!

"If one wants a proper corned beef sandwich one must go to Langer's on Seventh and Alvarado.  The best in town.

Thanks for the tip, but I hardly am in that area! LOL!
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: François de Paris on October 15, 2004, 04:02:50 PM
The true "baiting" was done by the questioner, Bob Schieffer, who asked whether the candidates thought homosexuality was something you're born, or the product of environment.

If it's environment, then, for much of prejudiced America, the Cheneys are "guilty" of raising their daughter in an environment that led her to lesbianism.  I think this is pretty ridiculous.  So does John Kerry, who said that if you talk to most homosexuals, they'll tell you they were born with certain feelings.

Mrs. Cheney keeps calling him a bad man, plainly, because she feels that she's done something wrong, raising a daughter the way she did.  She subscribes to the environment theory (unlike Kerry) and doesn't like being reminded of the results of how she raised Mary.

After years and years of researches on that subject, I guess we've come up with some answers right now...

Does Mr Bob Schieffer think that the candidates have answers, and in a Presidential debate on top of that ?
Who are they? Therapists?? Scientists? Medical Doctors? No, politicians!

And why should Mrs Cheney's opinion matter ? Is she elligible ?
Is she candidate ??

Oh! I forgot! In the States you elect both... a President AND a First Lady....

Sorry! I'm being verbose again! :)

.... and that GUILT think is so religious and so passé, imho!!
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: François de Paris on October 15, 2004, 04:04:30 PM
I kniow! I know! The candidates should have been asked:

"Do you have clickable buttocks?"

That's quite an issue!!
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: bk on October 15, 2004, 04:06:18 PM
Sanctity in marriage?  Never heard of it.

I always feel that a hot poker to the backside makes animals very playful.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: bk on October 15, 2004, 04:07:17 PM
While I was hopeful of approving the cover it was not to be.  Looks like Monday morning.  They think they have everything figured out now, so we're all keeping our fingers crossed.  Meanwhile, I got the hard-copy of the galley and it looks great, so that's totally approved now.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: François de Paris on October 15, 2004, 04:22:17 PM
Last night, S. Woody wrote:

Quote from: Matt H. on Yesterday at 08:37:07pm
Tonight on WILL & GRACE, for only the third time in its seven year run, Will Truman, the gay lawyer character, kissed another man.
 
 

Is that good for Bush, or that good for Kerry?

-- this is not a question!


I'm glad it's not because I don't understand what you're driving at.


The last part is by little me! Not SWW!

I was just being silly, as usual!
It's nonsense... which something the French rarely understand and use...
Thought I was in conquered territory. :(
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: TCB on October 15, 2004, 04:41:18 PM
Sanctity in marriage?  Never heard of it.

I always feel that a hot poker to the backside makes animals very playful.

Sorry.  For a moment, I thought the last two sentences were in response to the subject of the first.  LOL.

My, my, my (that is three mys) this here site has become very political during my long weeks away.  Hopefully I have still come to the correct site for a good old-fashioned bitch-slap!
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Charles Pogue on October 15, 2004, 04:57:00 PM
The following is an opinion piece by Charley Reese, a conservative columnist for the King Features Syndicate:

VOTE FOR A MAN, NOT A PUPPET
by Charley Reese

Americans should realize that if they vote for President Bush's re-election, they are really voting for the architects of war -- Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz and the rest of that cabal of neoconservative ideoloques and their corporate backers.

I have sadly come to the conclusion that President Bush is merely a frontman, an empty suit, who is manipulated by the people in his administration.  Bush has the most dangerously simplistic view of the world of any president in my memory.

It's no wonder the president avoids press conferences like the plague.  Take away his cue cards and he can barely talk.  Americans should be embarrassed that an Arab King (Abdullah of Jordan) spoke more fluently and articulately in English than our own president at their joint press conference recently.

John Kerry is at least an educated man, well-read, who knows how to think and who knows the world is a great deal more complex than Bush's comic-book world of american heroes and foreign evildoers.  It's unfortunate that in our poorly educated country, Kerry's very intelligence and refusal to adopt simplistic slogans might doom his presidential election efforts.

But Thomas Jefferson said it well, as he did so often, when he observed that people who expect to be ignorant and free expect what never was and never will be.

People who think of themselves as conservatives will really display their stupidity, as I did in the last election, by voting for Bush.  Bush is as far from being a conservative as you can get.  Well, he fooled me once, but he won't fool me twice.

It is not at all conservative to balloon government spending, to vastly increase the power of the government, to show contempt for the Constitution and the rule of law, or to tell people that foreign outsourcing of American jobs is good for them, that giant fiscal and trade deficits don't matter, and that people should not know what their government is doing.  Bush is prone-to-classify, the most secretive president in the 20th century.  His administration leans dangerously toward the authoritarian.

It's no wonder the Justice Department has convicted a few  Arab-Americans of supporting terrorism.  What would you do if you found yourself arrested and a federal prosecutor whispers in your ear that you can either plea-bargain this or the president will designate you an enemy combatant and you'll be held incommunicado for the duration?

This election really is important, not only for domestic reasons, but because Bush's foreign policy has been a dangerous disaster.  He's almost restarted the Cold War with Russia and the nuclear arms race.  America is not only hated in the Middle East but has few friends anywhere in the world thanks to the arrogance and ineptness of the Bush administration.  Don't forget, a scientific poll of Europeans found us, Israel, North Korea and Iran the greatest threats to world peace.

I will swallow a lot of petty policy differences with Kerry to get a man in the White House with brains enough not to blow up the world and us with it.  Go to Kerry's website and read some of the magazine profiles on him.  You'll find that there is a great deal more to Kerry than the GOP attack dogs would have you believe.

Besides, it would be fun to have a president who plays hockey, windsurfs, rides motorcycles, plays the guitar, writes poetry, and speaks French.  It would be good to have a man in the White House who has killed people face to face.  Killing people has a sobering effect on a man and dispels all illusions about war.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: bk on October 15, 2004, 05:03:48 PM
The political stuff will pass in just a few short weeks.  Then we can be gay and carefree with abs and buns of steel.

The day has gotten away from me.  I hate that.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Ron Pulliam on October 15, 2004, 05:12:07 PM
We can be gay and carefree now...just don't look too hard at the abs, and let's keep our buns to ourselves for now.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on October 15, 2004, 05:13:44 PM
The political stuff may not pass, if Bush gets re-elected. We may be living under extreme right-wing totalitarian rule for the next decade or so as a consequence.

Just read an interesting article on Yahoo news.  Mary Cheney watched her father's acceptance speech from the VP Box during the convention with her partner, but she did not join her sister on stage with the rest of the family afterwards.  It's like the Cheneys want her close when they need her, buuuttt...not too close to upset the far right conservative base.  To echo Lynne Cheney's misapplied words to Kerry:  Dick Cheney...This is not a good man.  This is not a good man!
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Post by: George on October 15, 2004, 05:16:39 PM
Very quickly, as I'm supposed to be ushering in less than an hour!:

In my DVD player:  Disney's "Home On the Range."  I never got to see this in the theaters and I have no idea what the songs are like, but I love Alan Menken's music.  I hope the songs are good!

In my VCR:  tapes of local TV celebrations for the Seattle Storm's winning of the WNBA Finals...for my niece. ;)

In my CD player:  nothing.

Now I have to leave.  I'm not much for politics, but I am not a supporter of George Bush.  I'll just leave it at that. ::)
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Post by: François de Paris on October 15, 2004, 05:21:12 PM
I am now deciding to leave work at 10am. Just call me DR Slacker.

Yes, but if you're a slacker, MM can do something for you!

http://www.michaelmoore.com/ontheroad/tour.php
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Post by: François de Paris on October 15, 2004, 05:27:34 PM


CALVIN & HOBBES...The Sunday Pages 1985-1995.  The funniest comic strip ever.

I quite agree with you! :D

Graphism and text! The best! ... of the ones I know... of course!
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Post by: François de Paris on October 15, 2004, 05:41:29 PM


François I’m looking forward to the details and photos from Tom.  I can’t believe their sitter called to mention the dogs were lost unless Tom might have suggested where to find them.  Thank goodness the story has a happy ending. :D



Well, Jane, it's a LONG story... The sitter needed some details to get help, mainly since the dogs do not wear collars or indentifications. In other words, he needed advice from the masters, to avoid any "wrongdoing" on his part!

It's quite a rural and vast space around Tom's house, and, because the dogs are very friendly, they could have been very easily stolen!

Yes, I like happy endings too! :D
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Post by: Panni on October 15, 2004, 05:48:09 PM
The day has gotten away from me, as well. I've just caught up with the posts. Now must take Abie for his evening walk. Tomorrow morning Abie auditions for the kennel where I want to put him while I'm traveling (It's called "Play It to the Bone." Great name.) He must pass muster as a dog who gets along well with other dogs. He must also perform two songs -- a ballad and an up-tempo ditty.
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Post by: bk on October 15, 2004, 05:48:42 PM
I just got a very sweet e-mail for a gal, a student, who is a big fan of Spaceship/Naked Space/The Creature Wasn't Nice.  I invited her over to our little partay here at haineshisway.com.  We'll see if she shows up.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Panni on October 15, 2004, 05:54:42 PM
Speaking of banks... May I say, "Aaargh"...? I received a rather nice check today - some money left to me by my late cousin in Schenectady. I hurried to the bank to deposit before 4, so it would be in my account by tomorrow. More fool I.
I was informed that as it's an out of state check, one portion of it will be held for 5 days, the rest released by November 1! When I asked why it takes THAT long to clear a check from New York -- we're not talking China here -- she gave me some ridiculous song and dance. As I don't need the money this minute and had things to do, I finally gave up. But I did ask her if they were going to pay me interest for the two weeks they are keeping my money. She grinned sheepishly and said, "I guess we should." May I say again, "Aaarghhh!"
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Post by: bk on October 15, 2004, 06:01:20 PM
I didn't get any money from Schenectady but I did get a cute little check from the WGA from some foreign residuals fund.  It'll buy me about ten happy meals.
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Post by: François de Paris on October 15, 2004, 06:02:50 PM
The day has gotten away from me, as well. I've just caught up with the posts. Now must take Abie for his evening walk. Tomorrow morning Abie auditions for the kennel where I want to put him while I'm traveling (It's called "Play It to the Bone." Great name.) He must pass muster as a dog who gets along well with other dogs. He must also perform two songs -- a ballad and an up-tempo ditty.


 ;D ;D
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: François de Paris on October 15, 2004, 06:05:20 PM
Speaking of banks... May I say, "Aaargh"...? I received a rather nice check today - some money left to me by my late cousin in Schenectady. I hurried to the bank to deposit before 4, so it would be in my account by tomorrow. More fool I.
I was informed that as it's an out of state check, one portion of it will be held for 5 days, the rest released by November 1! When I asked why it takes THAT long to clear a check from New York -- we're not talking China here -- she gave me some ridiculous song and dance. As I don't need the money this minute and had things to do, I finally gave up. But I did ask her if they were going to pay me interest for the two weeks they are keeping my money. She grinned sheepishly and said, "I guess we should." May I say again, "Aaarghhh!"

Ah, the joy of Banks and Capitalism!

Well, I was going to send you a check in euros but will refrain from doing so; you could not pocket the money before next year! ;D
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Post by: François de Paris on October 15, 2004, 06:11:46 PM

I was informed that as it's an out of state check, one portion of it will go to Bush, the rest to Kerry!
??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: JMK on October 15, 2004, 06:15:43 PM
DR Pogue:  We noticed the same situation with our rescue dog, BeeGee (seen on this very site some time back).  BeeGee was very mellow (AKA depressed) for the first several weeks we had him.  He's like a different dog now--playful, very vocal, and, conversely, much less clingy and needy.  It just takes time for a dog to realize he's with his "forever family."  Patience.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Panni on October 15, 2004, 06:28:25 PM
I didn't get any money from Schenectady but I did get a cute little check from the WGA from some foreign residuals fund.  It'll buy me about ten happy meals.

I too got one of those the other day. But the WGA was kinder to me -- the  check will cover the cost of my move -- with some left over for a Happy Meal or two.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: td on October 15, 2004, 06:29:52 PM
We can be gay and carefree now...just don't look too hard at the abs, and let's keep our buns to ourselves for now.


DR RLP, I salute you!
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: td on October 15, 2004, 06:32:07 PM
Very quickly, as I'm supposed to be ushering in less than an hour!:

In my DVD player:  Disney's "Home On the Range."  I never got to see this in the theaters and I have no idea what the songs are like, but I love Alan Menken's music.  I hope the songs are good!



I love the music!  Already, I have three of the songs in my repertoire!  Shockingly, though, we had to RAISE the key of LITTLE PATCH OF HEAVEN. . . .
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Post by: elmore3003 on October 15, 2004, 06:39:40 PM
DRCharles Pogue, thank you for the Charley Reese article.  I hope that gets some "conservative" (the dread C word!) people reconsidering their vote.  I, of course, have the dread L word to live up to.

DRPanni, your bank is screwing you; find a new one.  They're holding your check for accruing interest.  They already know it's not going to bounce, and they're taking advantage of its being an out-of-state check, and a somewhat  sizeable amount, I'd guess by the length of time they're holding onto it.  My bank usually holds anything over $1000 for a week, but it's usually released in 3 installments:  400 the first day,  another $250 or so the 3rd day and the balance on the 6th working day.  Two weeks is criminal and outrageous.
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Post by: elmore3003 on October 15, 2004, 06:42:36 PM
I meant to mention, but my anger over commerce and politics took precedence, that I just finished watching THE LONG GOOD FRIDAY.  What a good film!  I can't believe I'd never seen it before.  Helen Mirren is fierce.  
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Post by: td on October 15, 2004, 06:45:10 PM
And, DR elmoore3003, just why aren't we watching LESS THAN PERFECT? ? ?
(My excuse is quite valid: I'm involved in a YIM session with my dear Aussie Pal).
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Post by: Charles Pogue on October 15, 2004, 06:57:43 PM
JMK, thanks for the encouraging words re: the dog.  We were wondering if it might be depression from the insecurity of his situation.  He was rescued from the pound on death day, then went to a foster home, then the rescue shelter.  So he may be a bit discombobulated.  I was very encouraged today when he barked at the phone service man who came to the door.  It means he's getting territorial and protecting home and hearth.  He also fell in love with a dog on the other side of the fence on his walk.  

Elmore, glad you liked the article.  I think it has a lot of weight coming from a conservative.  I personally feel that the Bush team may be making a mistake trying to tar Kerry with the liberal label.  I actually wrote a letter to the LA Times today saying that I think people have just gotten too media savvy and too smart to buy into this simplistic demonization of  perfectly honourable and good words like "liberal" and "conservative".
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Post by: Panni on October 15, 2004, 07:21:16 PM
As I recall, there are quite a few Miyoshi Umeki fans here. There's an article in today's LA Times about James Shigeta (now 71!) and Nancy Kwan (65!) who will be doing a benefit reading of LOVE LETTERS for the East-West Players. In the article Shigeta and Kwan talk about Umeki -- whom they cannot locate. Kwan's conclusion, "She doesn't want to be found."
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Panni on October 15, 2004, 07:34:26 PM
Just read an ad in the paper for a moving sale tomorrow in Sherman Oaks. I need some furniture for my new house. This ad lists stuff which sounds like the sellers have excellent taste. Sale starts at 8 AM (not far from here) -- and I'm going to be there by 7:45. Maybe I'll get lucky and pick up some good pieces cheaply. I need a sofa for the living room, for instance, and they list a 9 foot blue leather sofa. (9 feet??) With a dog, I find leather is the best because it's sturdy, attractive and easy to clean. I also wouldn't mind a decent dining room set. I sold mine when I left LA and now just have a round glass table with 4 black chairs. It's not bad, but if I could get something interesting inexpensively, I'd be thrilled. These people list a 1950's Drexel dining room! And I need garden furniture -- also listed.
Moving Sales are sometimes great (I've had a few myself) because people aren't just getting rid of junk, but also of perfectly good things they can't take with them for one reason or another. Wish me luck!
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Post by: MBarnum on October 15, 2004, 07:41:25 PM
As I recall, there are quite a few Miyoshi Umeki fans here. There's an article in today's LA Times about James Shigeta (now 71!) and Nancy Kwan (65!) who will be doing a benefit reading of LOVE LETTERS for the East-West Players. In the article Shigeta and Kwan talk about Umeki -- whom they cannot locate. Kwan's conclusion, "She doesn't want to be found."

Wow, that would be great to see. I am a big fan of James Shigeta's!

Miyoshi, where are you!
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Post by: elmore3003 on October 15, 2004, 07:53:22 PM
And, DR elmoore3003, just why aren't we watching LESS THAN PERFECT? ? ?
(My excuse is quite valid: I'm involved in a YIM session with my dear Aussie Pal).

I'm moving slowly right now:  what is LESS THAN PERFECT?
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Jane on October 15, 2004, 08:01:35 PM
As I recall, there are quite a few Miyoshi Umeki fans here. There's an article in today's LA Times about James Shigeta (now 71!) and Nancy Kwan (65!) who will be doing a benefit reading of LOVE LETTERS for the East-West Players. In the article Shigeta and Kwan talk about Umeki -- whom they cannot locate. Kwan's conclusion, "She doesn't want to be found."

Interesting.  I hope she is happy where ever she is.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Jane on October 15, 2004, 08:04:02 PM
François thanks for letting me know there was a reason the sitter called.  I bet the dogs will begin wearing ID tags from now on.  We made that mistake once and never saw our dog again.

Panni, the old bank trick-very frustrating.  At least our bank says we will receive the interest.  Keith’s theory is the bank keeps your money so they profit on the floating funds. ;D  We couldn’t find anything to prove or disprove the theory.  

Good luck at the estate sale!!

Abie-good vibes on passing muster, and may you sing on key. :)

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Post by: MBarnum on October 15, 2004, 08:06:37 PM
Humph! I tried to read the James Shigeta/Nancy Kwan L.A. Times article on-lilne but you have to pay $3.00 to do so! Seems to me the current articles used to be free! Well, maybe Border's will have today's L.A. Times tomorrow.

DR Jane, my sentiments also..but...I think Miyoshi would be so much happier if she came out of obscurity and let me interview her!  ;D
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Post by: S. Woody White on October 15, 2004, 08:08:53 PM
Just read an interesting article on Yahoo news.  Mary Cheney watched her father's acceptance speech from the VP Box during the convention with her partner, but she did not join her sister on stage with the rest of the family afterwards.  It's like the Cheneys want her close when they need her, buuuttt...not too close to upset the far right conservative base.
Before judging the parent Cheneys on this, I'd suggest that two other people may have had a hand in this decision: Mary and her partner.  Has it occurred to anyone here that Mary herself may not want to be the center of attention?  Or that her partner would be uncomfortable with the spotlight?

I've noticed this pattern in spouses in the gay community, that when one partner is, for whatever reason, the focus of attention, that the other quite often will step away, preferring to remain anonymous.  Jim Kolbe, the openly gay Congressman (R) from Arizona, for example, had a partner named Ben who never was to be found, save for the occasional even hosted in their home.  Similarly, Barney Frank (D - Mass.) has a partner who vanished after an article in the Advocate.  The choice to keep out of the public eye has even led to at least one "divorce" that I know of, that of Long Beach City Councilman Dan Baker and his mate.

This pattern is even found at much lower levels.  When der Brucer and I were actively lobbying Congressmen in DC and Assemblymen in Sacramento, we would often be the only mated couple in the contingent.  At least half of the other lobbyists in the groups would have mates, but the mates would choose to remain home, unidentified.

As for Mary Cheney, if she wanted to be in the spotlight, I'm certain that she would be there.  As I noted in an earlier post, she and her father are known to be very close.  I cannot imagine Dick Cheney pushing her away, regardless of anyone else's opinion.
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Post by: S. Woody White on October 15, 2004, 08:10:59 PM
I've got the Page Dance again?

Oh, what the heck, earlier I forgot to mention our adding The Rocky Horror Picture Show to our DVD collection at the same time that we picked up all those horror films.

[size=20]Let's Do the Time Warp Again![/size]
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: S. Woody White on October 15, 2004, 08:23:06 PM
JMK, thanks for the encouraging words re: the dog.  We were wondering if it might be depression from the insecurity of his situation.  He was rescued from the pound on death day, then went to a foster home, then the rescue shelter.  So he may be a bit discombobulated.  I was very encouraged today when he barked at the phone service man who came to the door.  It means he's getting territorial and protecting home and hearth.  He also fell in love with a dog on the other side of the fence on his walk.
This sounds like a normal relocation phase to me.  Zeus, our foster pup, is getting more familiar with us as the days pass.  Tonight, when we returned from dinner, he joined the others in the welcoming barks, and particularly in asking for a biscuit.

Fletcher is calming down, going in the opposite direction from Zeus.  At first, he was very agitated, having to poke his nose into everything and being very agressive towards the other dogs.  He is now more relaxed, more sure of himself as he adapts to his new home and family.  

One thing we've installed in our house is a crate.  Yes, we have an actual cage, about three feet by five on the floor, maybe four feet tall.  We got it because Zeus' previous family had one in their garage, which was Zeus' home, sort of a dog house.  Zeus and Fletcher both use it as a home corner of their own.  While I wouldn't suggest having a cage/crate, if you're not comfortable with the idea, I do know that several of our dogs over the years have liked having a home corner.  We used to have a cardboard box that Pete, our first dog, liked to jump in.  Frankly, we had to replace that box several times over the years.  Geordie, one of the Scotties, had a special place under the table the television sat upon.  Buster likes to hide under my desk, particularly if I'm at the computer.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: bk on October 15, 2004, 08:27:48 PM
I've relocated and I'm quite playful.  In fact, right now I'm prancing about like a faerie queen in search of Milk Duds.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: S. Woody White on October 15, 2004, 08:32:13 PM
I've watched three episodes of The Avengers so far today.  If I work on the assumption that der B isn't going to want to watch every episode, only the second episode really deserves his attention: "The Gravediggers."  It contains a scene where Steed is lunching with a railroad fanatic inside a mockup of a private rail car, with painted scenery flying by the windows, recorded sounds, and the rail car rocking back and forth...all the effects provided by an increasingly exhausted elderly manservant.  Classically funny.

On average, one out of three episodes isn't bad, really.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Matt H. on October 15, 2004, 08:35:12 PM
LESS THAN PERFECT is one of the best (of a sorry lot) of sitcoms on TV presently. It and SCRUBS are the most consistently written (and thus funny) comedies that I watch.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Noel on October 15, 2004, 08:35:45 PM
The whole Mary Cheney thing is a smokescreen, people.  It's meant to divert voters' attention from an administration that has been devastating to homosexuals, and all freedom-loving people.  Gay partners can't get hospital visits - Kerry would like to ensure that they'd be able to; Bush would rather not.  Bush wants our Constitution to abridge rights, "natural" time-honored rights of a segrment of our population.  The more the nation thinks about Bob Schieffer's annoying question, Kerry's annoying answer, and Lynne Cheney's bizarre shrillness, the more we're diverted from the travesty the Bush administration has made of equal rights.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Matt H. on October 15, 2004, 08:36:16 PM
Thank you, DR Francois, for "fessing up" to the authorship of that Bush-Kerry/gay joke.

I sincerely apologize to DR S. Woody for making him the author of said joke.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: bk on October 15, 2004, 08:37:27 PM
You know my feelings on the last debate, but here I must say that I found Bob Schieffer entirely annoying and quite stupid-sounding in his questions.
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Post by: Matt H. on October 15, 2004, 08:38:18 PM
Looking forward to getting some others' opinions of the THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT package.
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Post by: bk on October 15, 2004, 08:40:04 PM
I just picked it up and am a third of the way through That's Entertainment - lots to say about it in tomorrow's notes.  Right now I'm heatin' me up some C. C. Brown's hot fudge, which I will use to make myself a haineshisway.com sundae on a Fridae.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: S. Woody White on October 15, 2004, 08:55:00 PM
...Gay partners can't get hospital visits - ...
I've never had any problems getting to see der B when he's been in the hospital, nor did he had problems when I was in.  It was clear every time that we were partners, and the hospitals respected us as such.

It would be much more accurate to say that Gay partners are not guaranteed hospital visits.  For that matter, neither are straight unmarried partners.  Nor is there automatic power of attorney, or any of the other rights immediately bestowed on a straight couple the moment they sign the marriage license and say "I do."

And I repeat: Kerry is not in favor of gay marriage.  He has instead said that he is in favor of civil union equivalents, which are not the same thing.  In California, for example, there are over seventy different laws extending rights to married couples.  This means that, to effectively create a civil union equivalent in California, either those seventy-plus laws would have to be amended OR seventy-plus new laws would have to be enacted.  Now, multiply this by fifty states (plus the territories and the District of Columbia) and you begin to see what a legal tangle civil unions creates.

(Frankly, I'm not sure if it's seventy-plus laws or seven hundred-plus laws.  This math is making my head hurt.)
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: S. Woody White on October 15, 2004, 08:59:07 PM
I'm having a wonderful time posting from der B's new computer, by the way.  His old clunker was constantly shutting down on him, and the computer in my room is also on it's last legs.  This new one is working like a dream.

I need to convince him that I need a new computer, too.  "Just to be a backup for his computer, in case something goes wrong..."

 ::)
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: S. Woody White on October 15, 2004, 09:00:33 PM
I'm off to watch another Avengers episode.  Diana Rigg is addictive, like salty peanuts!

 ;D
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Panni on October 15, 2004, 09:11:10 PM
I just had popcorn and a glass of white wine. Now I'm sipping on Diet Cherry Coke. The life of a sybarite.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Ron Pulliam on October 15, 2004, 09:36:26 PM
I will forever be perplexed by the unlikelihood that is the Log Cabin Republican.

It seems, I don't know, like...cut...nose...spite face...

And I can't get over comparing it to the mystery behind "converted gays".

News flash: Log Cabin Republicans are LEAVING the GOP in droves.  

Something about still, despite the missing noses, smelling the coffee...finally.

:D
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Ron Pulliam on October 15, 2004, 09:38:13 PM
Watched the entire second disc in the "Seven Brides for Seven Brothers" DVD issue....I really love the flat version of this film.  The composition is terrific and it's more intimate.

The extras are nice, although I'd have preferred the original audio track to the 30th Anniversary newsreel.

The short "MGM Jubilee Overture" is just wonderful!
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: George on October 15, 2004, 09:39:57 PM
....In California, for example, there are over seventy different laws extending rights to married couples.  This means that, to effectively create a civil union equivalent in California, either those seventy-plus laws would have to be amended OR seventy-plus new laws would have to be enacted.  Now, multiply this by fifty states (plus the territories and the District of Columbia) and you begin to see what a legal tangle civil unions creates.

(Frankly, I'm not sure if it's seventy-plus laws or seven hundred-plus laws.  This math is making my head hurt.)

I don't know remember where I read it (maybe from here?), but I remember reading that when straight people get legally married, they instantly get something like 1,039 rights bestowed upon them!  Now, that may be taking into account all the different laws in every state, but that's a helluva lotta rights that gay couples don't have!
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Panni on October 15, 2004, 09:55:37 PM
I'm very tired tonight.  May try to go to bed and see what happens. Might be back later -- might not.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Charles Pogue on October 15, 2004, 10:23:15 PM
Woody, I think the dog has made our bed is home corner.  He's more than happy to sleep there.  Did the first night.  Crawled out and over the playpen he was in, into the bed.  During the day, when I'm in my office, he has ensconced himself on the blanket on my office sofa.
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: MBarnum on October 15, 2004, 10:27:14 PM
DR Panni was kind enough to e-mail me the article on Shigeta/Kwan! Thanks Panni...it was an interesting article!
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: George on October 15, 2004, 10:28:34 PM
Well, it's back to the house that's being house-sat.  I came home after ushering to watch a bit of TV (nothing in particular) and check my e-mail and HHW.

Tomorrow, I'll probably be away most of the day.  I want to go to work to make up some time that I took off this week (I took off two days!) and if I don't go to work, I'll only have 4 hours of vacation time!  Total!  So, if I can get in a few hours, that'll help.  After that, I'm ushering again, but for a two-man (maybe with a couple of extra people) play about Lewis and Clark called (appropriately) LEWIS & CLARK & THE END OF THE WORLD (http://www.harlequinproductions.org/04Lewis&Clark.html).  It was written by Bryan Willis who has written some wonderful plays.  I don't doubt that it'll be a great evening.

Tonight (after I got home), my ex-boyfriend called (we're still good friends).  We chatted a bit and I'm going to visit him on Sunday.  So, I'll be gone all that day.

That's my weekend.  Should be fun!  Hope everyone has a good one, also!
Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Jrand74 on October 15, 2004, 10:29:56 PM
I also would LOVE to see James Shigeta and Nancy Kwan do LOVE LETTERS.  Wow!

My first choice would have been to see James Darren and Sandra Dee when they did it - BUT....
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Post by: Charles Pogue on October 15, 2004, 10:34:29 PM
RLP, I can understand Log Cabin Republicans. I just can't wrap my head around the concept with this current administration. When the Republican Party is not co-opted by the extremist factions of its organization as it currently is and hits a more moderate balance, I can agree with many of their policies.  

I think that's part of what's interesting about the article I posted...Here's a conservative Republican who doesn't recognize his own party any more. Where is the emancipating Lincoln?  Where is the trust-busting, monopoly-crushing Teddy Roosevelt? Why does the party of supposed less government want to be in my living-room, bedroom, seeing what books I read, surfing my computer?  Why has the party of fiscal responsibility run up the largest deficit ever and did it in less than four years after we had balanced the budget?  

It's the extremist positions of party politics that I can't stand.  We have the extremists of the Left to thank for nonsense like Political Correctness.  I try to remain a common centrist (or sense-trist, if you prefer.)

Title: Re:CLICKABLE BUTTOCKS
Post by: Jrand74 on October 15, 2004, 10:41:48 PM
Have any of the industry HHW'ers worked with a writer-producer named John Wilder?
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Post by: bk on October 15, 2004, 10:52:56 PM
Not me.
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Post by: Jrand74 on October 15, 2004, 10:53:34 PM
Oh well.
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Post by: Jrand74 on October 15, 2004, 10:53:58 PM
I think I will have a meat loaf sandwich and watch Joan of Arc on TCM
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Post by: JoseSPiano on October 15, 2004, 11:02:02 PM
Good Evening!

-Hmm.. I thought I had posted this morning, but I guess I had not.

Good rehearsal today.  More spacing, more cleaning, etc.  Today was also the day to go over the "Accident" and "Alternatives" scenes.   Consequently, Baayork had the cast sit in a circle on stage and start sharing stories of events that changed their lives.  Events that hit them in the face with the thought of "What would you if couldn't dance?".  Needless to say it was quite an emotional couple of hours - one cast member's story was particularly touching.  But all the "sharing" really helped to shape the scenes in the show by adding that true personal touch to them.

Then we had our first run-thru, stumble-thru of the show.  It went well.  Still a few rough spots, but the pacing of the show seems to be in place already.  I was in "shock" when I realized we were already at the end of the Montages.  We start teching tomorrow with a 10 out of 12 - so we'll be starting at Noon and ending at Midnight.  -We have four(!) 10/12s for this show.

Towards the end of tonight's rehearsal I and "Diana" were pulled out in order to perform for a special "Variety Talent Show" at the theatre next door for some philanthropic organization.  And it truly was a "Variety" show - everything from the Houston Rockets cheerleaders (they had fierce boots!), to an Elvis impersonator, to a rapping Grandpa accompanied by two of his grandsons, to us performing "What I Did For Love".  -Oh, and the special guest of the evening was Mr. Ben Vereen.  We ended up being added to the program at the last moment, and then we were placed right before him.  -And the program was running about 30 minutes late.  But that gave us time to visit with Mr. Vereen, and he even headed over to the other theatre to pop into the A CHORUS LINE rehearsal.  -He knows Baayork and as well as a couple of the cast members who were in FOSSE.

-Oh, and the Steinway Grand I played on was amazing!  I didn't not get to try it out before we went on, but as soon as I started the intro, I fell in love with the piano.  Great action, great sound.  I'm definitely going to have to get back in there to try it out again after we open.

Well, it's been a long day today, and the next two days will be a challenge with the 10/12 tomorrow, and then Sunday starting with a 9:00AM(?!?!?) Orchestra Rehearsal going into the second 10/12...

Goodnight.
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Post by: Panni on October 15, 2004, 11:52:00 PM
Sounds exciting, Jose!
I still haven't gone to bed - or even undressed. I don't know what I've done in the past couple of hours - but suddenly they're gone. I talked on the phone and read and sat staring into space like so much fish.... But the plan was bed... I did not follow the plan. Bad Panni!
I might as well stay up for the Notes now.
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Post by: Panni on October 15, 2004, 11:53:21 PM
And one for Mahler!