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Post by: bk on October 17, 2004, 11:58:55 PM: Well, you've read the notes, you know whereof they speak, you know from whence came eek, and now it is time for you to post until the cows squeak. And come home, of course. To it, I say.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on October 18, 2004, 12:29:09 AM: I do not really like or read science fiction. I do read and like a great deal of fantasy. What science fiction I do read is very unsciencey science fiction. Stuff like Edgar Rice Burroughs' Mars series which are really nothing more than interplantary fantasy swashbucklers. Errol Flynn in space.

But they are not my favourite fantasy. As far as Burroughs go, Tarzan is a much greater fantasy icon. I also like the dark, moody poetry of Robert E. Howard, creator of Kull, Conan, and his best creation Solomon Kane. Conan Doyle also had some interesting excursions into fantasy.

But my favourite fantasy of all time is SHE by H. Rider Haggard. I have about thirty different variants of the novel (including two firsts), which stirs deep, deep waters...as do most of Haggard's fantasies -- things like The World's Desire, Red Eve, Alan Quartermain, so many others...Haggard is my favourite writer, probably.

A. Merritt and his wonderfully florid prose I find quite evocative. Things like A FACE IN THE ABYSS; CREEP, SHADOW, DWELLERS IN THE MIRAGE...they're like poetic fevre dreams.

I'm a big, big fan of English writer, Terry Pratchett, creator of the hilarious Discworld series...witty and smart books.

Though I prefer his mysteries, Fredric Brown's dabblings into Sci-fi and fantasy are entertaining, as all his writing is...often very brief and witty.

Cornell Woolrich, also a mystery writer, also had some interestng forays into fantasy that embrace his compelling prose style.

I'm a sucker for Sax Rohmer and his Fu Manchu novels and his other thrillers of orientalism.

One of the most exquisite writers of fantasy I've ever read is the little-known Thomas Burnett Swann. Died early. His books use mythology as his tapestry. His prose style is gorgeously poetic and his tales are heartbreaking, powerful, moving, and simple. Titles like DAY OF THE MINOTAUR, MOONDUST, WILL O' THE WISP, WHERE IS THE BIRD OF FIRE...wonderful, wonderful stuff!

And then of course, there is my pal Harlan Ellison...whose works transcend confining labels like science fiction & fantasy.
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Post by: Jrand74 on October 18, 2004, 02:37:11 AM: Hmmmmmmmmmm.......whaddup, dog?

Although none have really came up to my imagination when I read them, the films made of H.G.Wells novels and a couple of the Jules Verne's books were good.

I like the original TIME MACHINE and 20,000 LEAGUES UNDER THE SEA. I think JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH starts out okay...and I like the cast.

I liked ATLANTIS THE LOST CONTINENT, but I don't think it was based on a particular book.

I guess of Wells' books, my favorite movie of them would be the original THE INVISIBLE MAN.
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Post by: Ben on October 18, 2004, 04:51:43 AM: Hello and belated HAPPY BIRTHDAY Dan-in-Toronto!

I was not on at all yesterday. After a full day of work Saturday and a bit of a computer problem when I returned home, I didn't feel like getting computerized at all.

I did purchase a new winter coat yesterday. Anthony and I went to Burlington Coat Factory (a discount clothing emporium) and I found a very nice Field and Stream winter piece marked down from $89.99 to a very nice and affordable $39.99. I'll take it! Lots of pockets for gloves and hats and what nots and full of warmth.

We have turkey cutlets, green beans and wild rice for dinner last night. Dessert was a pumpkin/chocolate chip bread with coffee (for me) and tea (for Anthony).

TomofOz, welcome back! So glad you had a good time and thanks for the beautiful postcards. I needs must get back to France to see those gorgeous villages, and to meet our own Francois.

Another very busy day at work so I won't be around much. I'll pop in when I can.
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Post by: Ben on October 18, 2004, 04:52:30 AM: Oh, yes. TOD. I'm afraid I'm not much of a science fiction fan so I have nothing to report. Though, as I mentioned, I will continue to pop in when I can.
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Post by: elmore3003 on October 18, 2004, 04:53:19 AM: Good morning, all! I am sorry about missing Chat last night, but I recall one around 3 weeks ago hat seemed jammed with people. Perhaps an alternative solution might be once a month, every two weeks? I can't be helpful since I've missed both last week's and this.

Sci Fi and Fantasy Books: I was never crazy about reading Sci Fi either, DRCharlesPogue, and some of my favorite fantasy as an adolescent, although I preferred mystery as I matured, were the following books:
PETER PAN
THE WIZARD OF OZ
THE LAND OF OZ
ON BORROWED TIME
ALICE IN WONDERLAND & THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS
THE ILIAD
THE ODYSSEY
THE TIME MACHINE
THE WAR OF THE WORLDS
Several of the Tarzan books, whose titles I've long forgotten
Hawthorne's WONDER BOOK & TANGLEWOOD TALES, which retold myths as fairy tales
As an adult, I found I preferred mystery, early Stephen King, and Victorian ghost stories, but I did discover two wonderful pieces of fantasy:
THE WIND IN THE WILLOWS
TIME AND AGAIN

Favorite films:
THE TIME MACHINE (George Pal)
FORBIDDEN PLANET
RETURN TO OZ, which combines THE LAND OF OZ with OZMA OF OZ
ON BORROWED TIME
THE THIEF OF BAGHDAD (Korda)
20,000 LEAGUES UNDER THE SEA, still one of my favorite Disney films
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Post by: Emily on October 18, 2004, 05:06:12 AM: Today is the day that my parents are getting the GYNORMOUS spruce tree that sits next to our house cut down. In recent years we've been told over and over again that it was TOO close to the foundation and therefore what the tree-cutter downer called a "nuisance tree".

I don't know... I've never been nuisanced by a tree.

As I post, there are several dozens of people in a big crane getting ready to start climbing and, I imagine, cutting.

Poor tree... it's been nice knowing you :)
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Post by: beckon on October 18, 2004, 05:27:09 AM: TOD

I am not really a fan of fantasy pieces, unless you count stuff like Alice In Wonderland/Through The Looking Glass, Wizard Of Oz, and fairy tales (which I have a great fascination for). But I don't think that is what the TOD is about.

And I am definitely not a fan of sci-fi. 2001 is about it and I am not even that crazy about that film.

I just really wanted to check in, post, and say hello.

So...Hello! :)
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on October 18, 2004, 05:58:06 AM: BK--how about "Sup, dawg?" I've heard that one bandied about a lot.

Welcome back, DR Tomovoz! And thank you for the postcard from the edge.

TOD: I was, for a number of years, a huge sci-fi fan. This was during the 70s when I was in high school. I devoured stuff by Issac Asimov, Robert A. Heinlein, Frank Herbert, etc. I subscribed to Analog, which was a wonderful monthly fiction digest that had beautiful cover art. I even wrote a story or two myself. But for one reason or another, I eventually grew away from it. I think the last sci-fi I've read was Arthur C. Clarke's 3003, and that only because someone gave me an autographed copy.

But I still enjoy fantasy lit. C.S. Lewis, Edgar Rice Burroughs, Robert Howard, Tolkein are classical favorites. I also like the Harry Potter books and just about anything written by Neil Gaiman. And I've been a comic book fan for (urk!) almost forty years.
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Post by: William E. Lurie on October 18, 2004, 06:22:18 AM: I'm not really into sci fi, but I did enjoy Ira Levin's THIS PERFECT DAY which has never been filmed but should be.
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Post by: Jrand74 on October 18, 2004, 07:01:36 AM: DRELMORE - how could I forget about ON BORROWED TIME? Whew!
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Post by: MBarnum on October 18, 2004, 07:26:31 AM: For books I usuaully prefer mysteries and bios but of the few sci-fi novels that I have read I enjoyed one called THE BIG EYE which I read when I was in high school. I still have the book somewhere. Another one, which I read recently, is THE DAY THEY H-BOMBED LOS ANGELES...it is one of those dime novels from the 50s and was lots of fun. I have several other sci-fi paperbacks from the 50s and 60s but have not read any of them as of yet.
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Post by: MBarnum on October 18, 2004, 07:29:10 AM: Panni, you dinner last night with the former police officer sounds like it would have been fun! I can only image the interesting stories he had to tell.

In November I will hopefully be having lunch with actor Cal Bolder. He was a Los Angeles motor cop for 14 years and I am looking forward to hearing his stories! In fact he was "discovered" by a talent agent who he was ticketing for speeding! LOL!
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Post by: Matt H. on October 18, 2004, 08:02:16 AM: I am not a fan of science fiction books at all. I've never read any of the DUNE series or much of Bradbury or Arthur C. Clarke's works though I taught various short stories by them for years and always enjoyed those. Just would never think to pick up one of their books for pleasure reading when there are so many mysteries out there that would be a much stronger lure for me. (And I love non-fiction/research books even more than mysteries.) I also taught THE TIME MACHINE and 20,000 LEAGUES UNDER THE SEA during my teaching career and liked those, too (though I found their film versions more fun.)

The only sci-fi fiction I ever remember consciously going out and buying to read was CHROME which featured a gay cyborg, an intriguing premise which I wanted to see in print. I remember liking it all right, but it didn't bowl me over or make me want to pursue other sci-fi books.

Now, strangely or not, I do enjoy sci-fi films. Adore FORBIDDEN PLANET probably above any other sci-fi film, and Pal's THE TIME MACHINE isn't far behind. 2001 is a fascinating film to just let wash over you, and the first two STAR WARS movies (parts IV and V, that is) are well made and fun adventures.
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Post by: Matt H. on October 18, 2004, 08:06:34 AM: For fantasy, THE WIZARD OF OZ, both book series and the musical film, will always be at the top of my list followed by PETER PAN in its original novel and its Disney incarnation and the musical stage version by Styne-Comden/Green and Charlap/Leigh. I have not seen yet last year's live action PETER PAN (waiting for it to come on HBO/Showtime/Starz), but I look forward to seeing it.

I love the HARRY POTTER films, but I have not been overly fond of the books. I stopped midway through the third one and will not read any more of them. I'll see the films instead so the surprises contained in them won't be ruined or I won't be disappointed in the omissions/alterations from the original sources.
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Post by: Jennifer on October 18, 2004, 08:14:12 AM: Re: last night's debate over Eric Benet. I will concur with DR Panni. He is good looking. But those pics did not do him justice at all.
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Post by: elmore3003 on October 18, 2004, 08:23:32 AM: I can't believe I forgot the Harry Potter books! I have all 5 first editions staring me in the face. I love them. I've never read, and have no desire to read, the LORD OF THE RINGS, but I should have included them as favorite movies. I can't wait for the expanded RETURN OF THE KING!

I just returned from my surgeon and my surgery is finally set for next Tuesday, 10/26. I will be an ambulatory patient, they'll knock me out, and perform surgery on the abscess to allow it to heal. By Thanksgiving, I should be over all of this mess including the therapy on my back to resolve (hopefully) the problems in my leg. I'm off now for the pre-op tests. A bientot.
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Post by: Matt H. on October 18, 2004, 08:45:45 AM: And I forgot LORD OF THE RINGS! My gosh, what marvelous fantasy films. I love them all but particularly the first and third editions. I, too, am waiting breathlessly for the expanded edition of THE RETURN OF THE KING.
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Post by: Jennifer on October 18, 2004, 08:46:30 AM: Wow Brooke Shield's getting raves in WT:

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10182004/entertainment/32132.htm
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Post by: Jennifer on October 18, 2004, 08:53:26 AM: Question for anyone who saw the recent Man Of La Mancha revival on Broadway.

I saw the musical last night for the first time. And I was wondering if the show is always done the same way.

Is he always in prison re-enacting the story of Don Quixote?
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Post by: Elan on October 18, 2004, 09:20:04 AM: Let me put in another voice for Terry Pratchett's Discworld series... hysterically brilliant, and he's only gotten better as he's gone along (which is truly frightening, considering that there's some 30 books in the series to date). A recent favorite of mine is Michael Stackpole's Once a Hero, which I thought was generally superb. I've recently gotten into graphic novels, and Neil Gaiman's Sandman simply outshines nearly everything I've ever read in the fantasy genre.

As for movies that were well-done: I think that The Princess Bride might be as good an interpretation of a fantasy book as I care to see on screen (not being the world's biggest Lord of the Rings fan, I've never seen any of the movies, so forgive me for not having an opine on them). Not literally transcribing every chapter (as the first two Harry Potter movies did, to their detriment, IMHO), but finding cinematic equivalents for the literary style of the original, that movie has had the lovely wife and myself quoting lines for years.
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Post by: bk on October 18, 2004, 09:35:51 AM: Yes, the jail framing device is always part of Man of La Mancha.

I never read much sci-fi, but did enjoy a book called Gateway by Frederick Pohl, and some of Ray Bradbury's stuff. I also enjoyed Frederic Brown's occasional foray into that terrain.
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Post by: Matt H. on October 18, 2004, 09:47:31 AM: The internet is kind of slow this morning. DOn't know if it's really busy or if it's just my telephone line that's slow, but almost every site takes a little longer to come on today, and I've gotten more connection failure messages today than I can remember.
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Post by: Matt H. on October 18, 2004, 09:49:14 AM: I still have not watched last Wednesday's LOST. Not sure if I can get to it today either, but if not today, tomorrow for sure. Want to be ready for this Wednesday's installment (even thoughI'll have to record it, too; I'll be AFOOTing.)
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Post by: bk on October 18, 2004, 09:51:50 AM: Everything working fine here in the City of Studio, internet-wise.
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Post by: bk on October 18, 2004, 09:52:07 AM: And might I just ask where in tarnation IS everyone?
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Post by: bk on October 18, 2004, 09:53:01 AM: Very gray out again today - I tend to sleep later when it is gray out, so I may have to start consciously trying to get up earlier than I have for the last couple of days.
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Post by: Jrand74 on October 18, 2004, 09:55:00 AM: Oh, Ray Bradbury.....DANDELION WINE.....especially the stories about the strangler, the mailman, and lime vanilla ice cream.... I always wanted to see it done as a GOOD movie, but I also like SOMETHING WICKED THIS WAY COMES, but didn't like some of the movie as much.....

Oh, and the story of the grandmother who loved to put new shingles on the roof every spring.....
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Post by: Jrand74 on October 18, 2004, 09:55:44 AM: Rainy and stormy here today, and tomorrow they say. Better than ice and snow.
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Post by: Jrand74 on October 18, 2004, 10:01:47 AM: Even if you don't like science fiction - if you like lovely stories and especially stories about growing up in the midwest....you will like this book. ;D

(http://www.teenink.com/Past/1993/images_1993/DandelionWineCover.GIF)

When an eleven year old's best friend is moving away, they spend their last night together in the town park playing "statue" and the boy "freezes' his friend and tells him he can't move and can never leave.....
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Post by: Noel on October 18, 2004, 10:05:39 AM: I've spoken of my problems with sci-fi and fantasy before. Some works in these genres are, of course, worse than others, but...

"The Rules" - all sci-fi and fantasy involve some element that is different from real life. This element is a creation of the author, who may be impressively imaginative, and my reaction is to say "Wow, that's an impressive imagination this author has" RATHER than being interested and involved with the characters he's created.

There comes a time (and I call it the Mr. Lundie sequence - a Brigadoon reference), when these rules need to be explained to the audience. For example: "If you put this ring on your finger you will become invisible and quickly move to some place else. So, if someone's swinging a sword at you, that would be a good time to put it on. But do not keep it on for too long, because then you'll become evil and seek power."

While these rules are being explained, my eyes glaze over. I find rule-explanation very boring. Now, a good novelist often explains other things, the background of Jacobean society, for example, but these things, being facts, ARE interesting to me. A set of rules I'll never have to remember again once I put down the book - yawn.

Remarkably frequently, the author is inconsistant in the use of rules, or, late in the action, introduces a new rule that changes our feelings about what's gone before. For instance, our favorite old guru loses a battle and gets dropped into a fiery chasm. At that point, the hero sheds a tear, and we're all supposed to feel sad because the guru's dead. But wait, two hundred pages later, it turns out he's not dead. Or he still exists as a spririt, or a hologram, or some such thing. This is good news, I guess, but boy do I feel cheated for shedding those tears 200 pages ago.

It's said that if you're totally involved (as a reader or audience), you never feel "the hand of the author" but, instead, react to all the characters and their drama as if it is real. Sci-fi and fantasy are genres in which I have a hard time doing that, and am inevitably aware of the hand of the author, the person who made all these silly rules up in the first place.
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Post by: bk on October 18, 2004, 10:15:14 AM: Another fantasy-esque book I'm quite fond of is Jack Finney's Time and Again, but then I'm a sucker for most any time-travel story that involves going BACK in time.
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on October 18, 2004, 10:16:09 AM: Apropos of nothing, I just heard a funny joke:

Q: What do you get when you play New Age music backwards?

A: New Age music.
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Post by: Jennifer on October 18, 2004, 10:22:21 AM: Last week's LOST was very good.

Re: the stage version of Man of La Mancha. Was it just me or do others also find the story sort of stupid. I really didn't like that it was all make-believe. But I wonder if other productions tackle that aspect in a more enjoyable way.
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Post by: bk on October 18, 2004, 10:28:17 AM: It all depends on the production. In the original production the device was theatrical magic.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on October 18, 2004, 11:10:28 AM: I have to agree with BK, Jennifer, the first time I saw MAN OF LA MANCHA, it was exquisite. The reason the film never worked for me was because the piece is so richly dependent on its pure theatricality (ROYAL HUNT OF THE SUN is another such inherently theatrical piece that flattens out on film). Dramatically, the device works and is sound, I could see where bad productions can diminish it.

To answer the other half of BK's question, I don't know if I've ever seen a film that was as good as the book it was based on. THE PRINCESS BRIDE...one of my favourite books of all time... has a wonderful film adaptation by Goldman, but even so his book is so much richer, denser, and more fun. But then most books are. Tarzan has never been adequately adapted to film, despite how much fun the Weissmuller films can be. My favourite SHE has never had a good adaptation (except my own screen adaptation...which may someday see the light of day). But generally, the book is always better than the movie.

Dan the Man, I also have hoarded a nice stash of several thousand comics away.

Elmore, THIEF OF BAGHDAD (the Korda version) is one of my all-time favourite films. Also like you, I've never read the LORD OF THE RINGS series, though I've owned them for years. I managed to get through THE HOBBIT, which I could've taken or left...and never pursued the others.

Another great fantasy book I enjoyed was
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Post by: Noel on October 18, 2004, 11:10:41 AM: I agree that a well-done Man of La Mancha is theatrical magic. You've a sympathetic creative type, Cervantes, thrown in a dungeon by a tyrannical regime. Before his trial by The Inquisition, he must face a mock-trial by his fellow inmates, and so, using improvisatory wits, he involves them all in presenting the story of his book, Don Quixote. DQ, of course, is a send-up of a picaresque adventure, and modern audiences don't easily relate to its self-deluded dreamer. But, as Dale Wasserman's book has that constant parallel, that fear that Cervantes' work will be burned and he'll be hurt if he fails to impress the prison's mock court, everything in it becomes vital, high-stakes material.

I like the score, but I'd say this is one of very few musicals whose book outshines its score. (That can happen when a book is truly marvelous, as in 1776, or when a score fails to achieve a high enough level of creativity, as with Wicked.) Man of La Mancha is, in most accounts, one of the best two dozen musicals ever written.

And oh, that ending! You've got the great catharsis of the result of the jail trial, and everybody's singing The Impossible Dream as Cervantes walks up the plank to his Inquisition Trial, where we know he won't fare so well. It's simultaneously stirring and sobering; no mean feat.
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Post by: Jennifer on October 18, 2004, 11:15:07 AM: Quote from: bk on October 18, 2004, 10:28:17 AM
It all depends on the production. In the original production the device was theatrical magic.

Can anyone explain how they did it so it was so magical.

The production I saw last night was really good. But I just couldn't help thinking that the story itself was really lacking.
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Post by: Jennifer on October 18, 2004, 11:19:10 AM: Quote from: Noel on October 18, 2004, 11:10:41 AM
And oh, that ending! You've got the great catharsis of the result of the jail trial, and everybody's singing The Impossible Dream as Cervantes walks up the plank to his Inquisition Trial, where we know he won't fare so well. It's simultaneously stirring and sobering; no mean feat.

Yes the ending was great. Loved, loved it.

I don't know, your description makes it sound riveting. So maybe it was just the production that was not good. But as it's the only time I've seen the show I have nothing to compare it to. I thought the cast was very good. And to me it felt like it was the story that was the problem.

I'm just not sure how they could make it so that I could care about them acting out Don Quixote.
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Post by: bk on October 18, 2004, 11:25:22 AM: Pogue, don't leave us hanging in suspense. "Another fantasy book I enjoyed was"...
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Post by: William F. Orr on October 18, 2004, 11:37:54 AM: From Sandra, a few days ago--yes, I'm still backed up in reading the posts:
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In one of my classes today, the teacher was talking about What's-his-name Swinburne while all these pictures of Swinburne were being projected on a screen behind him. Swinburne looked just like Carrot Top.

Well, my dear Sandra, since one seldom hears Swinburne mentioned--and taught in a college class yet!--I must needs quote you my Swinburne parody. Now I ask you, how many people do you know, or will you ever know who have written a Swinburne parody?

It is in the Sapphic form, an ancient verse form due to Sappho, of course, and all the rage among the later Romans.

See the white, implacable Aphrodite
In her see-through, washable, nylon nightie.
If she beats the boar, and she gets Adonis,
Give her a bonus.

Oh yes, it has been expanded to a cycle of several stanzas, treating all of the ancient goddesses and entitled "Feminine Sapphics".

Now aren't you glad you know that?
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Post by: Charles Pogue on October 18, 2004, 11:40:48 AM: Dsylexia strikes again! I went back to do some proofreading and just left the sentence hanging...Another great fantasy novel was THE GORMENGHAST TRILOGY, by Mervyn Peake, especially the first two books.

Richard Dreyfuss has been forced to withdraw from the London production of THE PRODUCERS because of injuries. Nathan Lane will be filling in.
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Post by: bk on October 18, 2004, 11:49:37 AM: And Brooke Shields has gotten raves for Wonderful Town.
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on October 18, 2004, 11:56:13 AM: Quote from: Charles Pogue on October 18, 2004, 11:40:48 AM
Dsylexia strikes again! I went back to do some proofreading and just left the sentence hanging...Another great fantasy novel was THE GORMENGHAST TRILOGY, by Mervyn Peake, especially the first two books.

DR CP, I've been meaning to pick up these books ever since I saw the miniseries on PBS last winter. If you saw the miniseries, how does it compare to the books?
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on October 18, 2004, 12:05:35 PM: BK's landlord:
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Post by: Matt H. on October 18, 2004, 12:06:02 PM: Yes, but Raquel Welch got raves for WOMAN OF THE YEAR, and she was not rave-worthy. Often, critics love to see someone try something different and temper their poison pens with sugar.
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on October 18, 2004, 12:07:01 PM: I am listening to George Winston's new CD, Montana--A Love Story. It leaves me feeling appropriately calm, centered, serene and new agey. I now long to live in Montana (though if this CD had been named Idaho--A Love Story, I might be longing to live there as well.)
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Post by: elmore3003 on October 18, 2004, 12:08:15 PM: Quote from: Jennifer on October 18, 2004, 11:15:07 AM
Can anyone explain how they did it so it was so magical.

The production I saw last night was really good. But I just couldn't help thinking that the story itself was really lacking.

DRJennifer, I was lucky enough to see the original production in Washington Square Park at the site of the NYU Library. The theatre, as I recall, was sort of a tinsheet shack, very mid-1960s construction site, and the auditorium was much like Lincoln Center, an open pit surrounded on 3 sides by seats. It may be my imagination but Howard Bay's prison set looked like the flat roof of a tower emerging from a cellar, unconnected to the auditorium and separated by a trench. The only way to leave the set was a huge staircase that came cranking down from the flies or to use the trapdoors on the floor of the stage. Part of the excitement of the staging, and I never thought it worked well when adapted to a proscenium stage, was that when people got near the edge of the set, you never knew how far they were going to fall.

The orchestra was in two boxes to the left and the right of the set, behind it, and my memory is that after the Overture, the band was hidden by sliding panels. The show, as I remember, was in one act, and quite intense, gritty, violent, and there were magical moments: the windmills were a whirling light projection accompanied by whirling music in the band; the first appearance of the horses brought delighted gasps and cheers from the audience: we knew from that moment on it was going to be constantly imaginative mentally and physically. On top of that, there was this amazing cast: Richard Kiley, Joan Diener, Irving Jacobson, Jon Cypher, Robert Roundsville (the original Candide!) and Ray Middleton, the original Frank Butler to Merman's Annie. You don't get an allstar production like that today for this show.
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Post by: elmore3003 on October 18, 2004, 12:11:06 PM: Quote from: Matt H. on October 18, 2004, 12:06:02 PM
Yes, but Raquel Welch got raves for WOMAN OF THE YEAR, and she was not rave-worthy. Often, critics love to see someone try something different and temper their poison pens with sugar.

I saw Bacall, who won a Tony Award for sleepwalking through a performance, which is doubly shameful because Lansbury won it the year before for working her ass off and being brilliant in SWEENEY TODD! I thought Raquel was better.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on October 18, 2004, 12:18:34 PM: Dan-the-Man, I think the mini-series was farily faithful to the books, but it's been over thirty years since I read them. It seems the books had a great deal more detail in them...as all books do, of course.
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Post by: bk on October 18, 2004, 12:25:33 PM: Must run out and do an errand now and then, like General MacArthur, I shall return.
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Post by: Jane on October 18, 2004, 12:40:11 PM: Ben, I miss having a Burlington Coat Factory to shop at.

Noel I have absolutely no problem getting lost in the story and characters of a good science fiction story.

Years ago we saw MAN OF LA MANCHA with Jose Ferrer. I don’t recall impressive sets. We enjoyed the music and the story, but sadly were very disappointed with Jose Ferrer.
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Post by: Jane on October 18, 2004, 12:43:08 PM: I don’t believe I have read a science fiction book in a long while. A shame really.

My favorite adaptation from book to movie was FARENHEIGHT 451. JRand I haven’t read DANDELION WINE.

I found Asminov’s FOUNDATION brilliant.

The first DUNE was great, the movie okay.

I’m not sure I read THE TIME MACHINE but have enjoyed the various movie versions.

I love watching science fiction, favorites being STAR TREK, VOYAGER, FARSCAPE, and STARGATE.

I love STAR WARS which should be a lead in into fantasy now but I must go.
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Post by: Panni on October 18, 2004, 12:47:27 PM: ***DR Elmore - May it all go well, fast and painlessly! Quick healing vibes your way!***
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Post by: Jane on October 18, 2004, 12:48:02 PM: I have to vote today if I want to mail my ballet. Before I vote I must read the voters pamphlet and all of our Oregon measures. As MBarnum will tell you Oregon always has an incredible number of measures on to vote on. If you recall it was the reason Oregon was so long in tally up it’s votes in the last election.

I must double check my measure numbers. For example, I thought 35 was my easy NO vote, but it is number 36.

MBarnum, aside from 36, do you have inside information which effects your voting on these measures?
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Post by: Panni on October 18, 2004, 12:51:57 PM: I used to like Jules Verne when I was a kid. And I like Bradbury's short stories. But I've never been much of a science fiction fan.
Fantasy is another matter. Loved THE LION, THE WITCH AND THE WARDROBE... and ALL the Chronicles of Narnia. The WIZARD OF OZ... Really anything well-written that would take me into another magical world.
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Post by: Panni on October 18, 2004, 12:53:56 PM: Quote from: Jane on October 18, 2004, 12:48:02 PM
I have to vote today if I want to mail my ballet.

Winner of the most evocative typo of the day. A lovely image. :)
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Post by: Jane on October 18, 2004, 12:56:02 PM: RLP, nice photo of the landlord. :)

Panni, glad you had such a fun evening.

And oops, of course, GOOD SURGERY HEALING VIBES TO ELMORE!
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on October 18, 2004, 12:57:18 PM: I thought "Shoeless Joe" made a fantastic film: "Field of Dreams".

It's sheer magic to me.

Apropos of some things: It's a shame when the coffee goes unsmelled.
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Post by: Jane on October 18, 2004, 12:58:27 PM: Quote from: Panni on October 18, 2004, 12:53:56 PM
Winner of the most evocative typo of the day. A lovely image. :)

LOL-so funny I won't modify my, as you so kindly said, typo. ;D
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Post by: bk on October 18, 2004, 01:10:24 PM: I'm back, and to prove it, I'm here. Had some fun mail waiting for me today, always nice.
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Post by: bk on October 18, 2004, 01:10:37 PM: And now, I am thinking about food.
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Post by: Matt H. on October 18, 2004, 01:13:06 PM: Everyone acted Raquel off the stage, especially Marilyn Cooper who in one scene was far more impressive and memorable than Raquel was for the whole evening. Hated her breathy singing, too, and her attempts to sing harmony to Marilyn Cooper's melody line were laughable.
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on October 18, 2004, 01:17:12 PM: Quote from: RLP on October 18, 2004, 12:57:18 PM
Apropos of some things: It's a shame when the coffee goes unsmelled.

That would actually make a nice literary eupherism for someone who has died in their sleep.
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Post by: elmore3003 on October 18, 2004, 01:18:07 PM: Quote from: Jane on October 18, 2004, 12:48:02 PM
I have to vote today if I want to mail my ballet.

Are you going to vote SWAN LAKE or NUTCRACKER?
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on October 18, 2004, 01:22:28 PM: I've always favored mailing ballet. FedEx and UPS leave all the tutus mussed.

"...mail my ballet..." is a much prettier image than if a person had written that someone had "...sealed his own fat..."

Of course, if someone had "...made his own bod...", rather than "bed," it would make sense, unless the thought were carried out to read, "...and now he must lie on it..." or "...die on it."
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Post by: elmore3003 on October 18, 2004, 01:22:40 PM: God, I love you all so much! Dear Friend BK is right; this is the best site and nuclear family anyone could want.

Thanks for the vibes, but I'd rather you wait till next Monday while I'm across the street at Holy Trinity praying for us all! DRJane can testify I live directly across from a beautiful church!
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Post by: bk on October 18, 2004, 01:23:05 PM: Still thinking about food. It's quite chilly here, so something warm might be nice.
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Post by: elmore3003 on October 18, 2004, 01:23:11 PM: Quote from: RLP on October 18, 2004, 01:22:28 PM
I've always favored mailing ballet. FedEx and UPS leave all the tutus mussed.

It's tutu terrible!
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Post by: elmore3003 on October 18, 2004, 01:29:27 PM: Quote from: Jane on October 18, 2004, 12:48:02 PM
I have to vote today if I want to mail my ballet.

MBarnum, aside from 36, do you have inside information which effects your voting on these measures?

I'm sure DRMichael is voting for Steve Reeves, no matter who's on the ballet.

I was trying to think of ballets representing our candidates:
Bush: PETRUSHKA, NUTCRACKER
Kerry: LE CORSAIRE, THE FIREBIRD

Well, since I'm partial, it's hard to find titles. To whom would you assign these ballets:
WESTERN SYMPHONY
BILLY THE KID
FANCY FREE
THE DYING SWAN
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Post by: bk on October 18, 2004, 01:35:59 PM: I feel we should have a fantasy story right here at haineshisway.com. I'll start it, then you dear readers pick it up from there. We used to do this every now and then and sometimes it's amusing.

Once upon a time in a magical land far away, there lived an ogre. The ogre was actually quite a nice person when you got to know him and yet no one got to know him on account of he was an ogre. One fine day, a beautiful maiden with golden hair and the bluest of eyes came upon the ogre.
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Post by: MBarnum on October 18, 2004, 01:39:49 PM: Dr Jane,
I think I am voting no on all the measures, but need to read up on a couple of them.

I don't think I have even gotten my ballot yet! Are they out already?
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Post by: elmore3003 on October 18, 2004, 01:43:16 PM: The ogre looked up from the dead animal he was gutting and said:
"By the prinking of my thumbs
Some young morsel this way comes"

He set down the animal and strode toward the young maiden, whose name was
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Post by: Noel on October 18, 2004, 01:48:47 PM: Quote from: bk on October 18, 2004, 01:35:59 PM
Once upon a time in a magical land far away, there lived an ogre. The ogre was actually quite a nice person when you got to know him and yet no one got to know him on account of he was an ogre. One fine day, a beautiful maiden with golden hair and the bluest of eyes came upon the ogre.

Rivka.

Heavens, thought Rivka, I'm about to encounter an ogre and ogres have so many mystical and magical powers. They need to be approached in a certain way, and the wrong approach could have dire consequences.

Rivka struggled to remember this essential information about ogres and how to deal with them. Luckily, her old friend Mr. Lundie - yes, he was old, and Scottish - had prepared for her a handbook on this very subject. It read
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Post by: bk on October 18, 2004, 01:52:37 PM: Chastity Reuben. She looked at the ogre and said, "Maybe if you didn't gut so many animals people wouldn't think you were an ogre."

The ogre looked at this beautiful vision named Chastity Reuben and said, "But I must gut animals for I am not only an ogre, I am an animal gutter. It has always been thus."

"But I can change you, if you like," said Chastity Reuben, her eyes sparkling like a blue lagoon. "I have magical powers, ogre." The ogre looked at Chastity.
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Post by: bk on October 18, 2004, 01:53:49 PM: "I'd heard tell your name was Rivka," said the ogre. "Well, that's my middle name. My full name if Chastity Rivka Reuben."
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Post by: Jane on October 18, 2004, 01:56:18 PM: Quote from: elmore3003 on October 18, 2004, 01:18:07 PM
Are you going to vote SWAN LAKE or NUTCRACKER?

No contest, SWAN LAKE. I'm not a fan of the NUTCRACKER. :D
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Post by: bk on October 18, 2004, 01:57:44 PM: I'm STILL thinking about food. I have to make a decision and eat something soon before I fall over. Yesterday I had pasta, so today I must have something different.
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Post by: Noel on October 18, 2004, 01:57:59 PM: The ogre wondered exactly what these magical powers were. Luckily, on a sturdy bookshelf, he had long kept a massive tome entitled "The Magical Powers of One Chastity Rivka Reuben" by someone named Lundie. He'd never thought of cracking its spine before, but now seemed the time.

It read
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Post by: bk on October 18, 2004, 01:58:42 PM: I've already written five count them five pages and I may do another page or two, but basically I think I'm just about done for the day, writing-wise. Except for our fantasy story, entitled Chastity and the Ogre of Chandra.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on October 18, 2004, 02:05:02 PM: ..Chastity Rivka Reuben, Christian Jewess Priestess to the God Dagon, and Shiksa Extraordinaire.
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Post by: Jane on October 18, 2004, 02:05:20 PM: Quote from: MBarnum on October 18, 2004, 01:39:49 PM
Dr Jane,
I think I am voting no on all the measures, but need to read up on a couple of them.

I don't think I have even gotten my ballot yet! Are they out already?

They arrived Friday or Saturday.

I’m voting yes on the uncontested measures.

I have two more measures to look over, then I want to return to #34, the Timber one. I'm leaning torwards a yes on 34.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on October 18, 2004, 02:08:22 PM: This, 2, is BK's landlord:
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Post by: Jane on October 18, 2004, 02:08:30 PM: Noel, I love you gave us a Jewish maiden-Rivka is great. ;D
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Post by: bk on October 18, 2004, 02:13:30 PM: Chastity Rivka Reuben's magical powers consisted of being able to cause people not to gut animals, being able to transport herself from one place to another by merely thinking it, and being able to prepare a five-course meal in seven seconds.
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Post by: Jane on October 18, 2004, 02:16:41 PM: Yes, elmore lives across the street from a beautiful church. :D
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Post by: Jane on October 18, 2004, 02:17:39 PM: And as she loved all animals, her five course meals were vegetarian.
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Post by: George on October 18, 2004, 02:19:02 PM: I loved "The Sword of Shanara" when I was in high school and about 10 years ago, I read "Good Omens: the Nice and Accurate Prophecies of Agnes Nutter, Witch" by Neil Gaiman and Terry Pratchett. I’ve never read anything else by either of them, but I loved "Good Omens." When I was reading it, I felt that it would make a wonderful movie. I’d heard some time ago that that was in the works, but so far nothing has happened. I read "The Chronicles of Narnia" and "The Hobbit" and the Lord of the Rings trilogy. I’ve read and was a fan of science fiction when I was in high school, but I haven’t been for quite a while. I don’t know why. Other than that, the only author that I say that I like is Fredric Brown. I’ve loved just about everything of his that I’ve read.
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Post by: Jane on October 18, 2004, 02:20:07 PM: This real life Jewess Christian Priestess to the God Dagon is very pleased with her addition to the story. :D
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Post by: bk on October 18, 2004, 02:24:47 PM: Given that she was a strict Kosher vegetarian, it was no wonder that Chastity Rivka Reuben wanted the ogre to stop gutting animals and that she'd been given the magical power to stop such things. She said to the ogre, "Wouldn't you be much happier not gutting the poor defenseless creatures of Chandra?"
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Post by: bk on October 18, 2004, 02:25:23 PM: I'm STILL thinking about food and am now leaving the home environment to do something about it.
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Post by: Jane on October 18, 2004, 02:28:18 PM: Mbarnum, check out the last two arguments in favor of measure 37-LOL. Someone slipped those in and got away with it. ;D
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on October 18, 2004, 02:42:27 PM: "Chandra?" snarled the Ogre. "This is MY country and it's called Carnivora!"

"Oh," said Rivka with a pouty moue!

"Oh! Indeed!" grunted the Ogre as he set aside some prime rib and started cutting out a rump roast.

"You're gonna get that white dress all messy," the Ogre warned Rivka. "Don't stand so close."
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Post by: Jennifer on October 18, 2004, 02:59:14 PM: I posted about Brooke Shield's raves earlier this morning. I saw her last week on The View, and I was so impressed by her. I had a feeling she would be very good in this role. Although who knew she would get SUCH raves.

So what did they do for the horses in the productions you guys saw? (Man OF La Mancha) Here they just had two women stomping.
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Post by: Noel on October 18, 2004, 03:06:45 PM: In the kingdom of Lower Volta, where this story takes place, having a messy dress was a most shameful thing. It indicated you didn't know from table manners, for one thing. For another, those viewing a dress, splattered with prime rib jus, were apt to suspect the wearer had somehow violated the vegetarian Kosher laws, which Mr. Lundie explained thusly:
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Post by: elmore3003 on October 18, 2004, 03:07:47 PM: Quote from: Jennifer on October 18, 2004, 02:59:14 PM
So what did they do for the horses in the productions you guys saw? (Man OF La Mancha) Here they just had two women stomping.

DRJennifer, have you ever seen the yearly THEATRE WORLD, currently edited by John Willett? A lot of libraries have the series, Vol. 1 was published around 1945. Check out the volume for 1965-1966 and 1966-1967 for photos from the originasl production. There's also a new book on the making of the show by its author Dale Wasserman. I see copies of the original souvenir program on eBay occasionally.

The horses were two male dancers wearing horses' heads, but right now I'm confusing them with the horse masks on EQUUS.
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Post by: bk on October 18, 2004, 03:20:50 PM: I am back and have eaten. I drove down Ventura Blvd. and ended up at Taco Bell, and it was quite yummilicious and did the trick.
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Post by: Jane on October 18, 2004, 03:21:27 PM: "Rivka, you must always travel with extra clothing in case you soil yourself or meet a messy ogre."

Further, Mr. Lundie provided Rivka with a Jewish curse appropriate for ogres and telephone solicitors. So, with deep breath and wide eyes Rivka yelled to the ogre:
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Post by: Jane on October 18, 2004, 03:23:55 PM: "Den ganzen Kopp sollen se haben voller Läüs und so e korz Ärmchen dass Se sich net kratze könne!"

(Roughly translated this means: "May your daughter's beauty be admired by everyone in the circus.")

The ogre was dumbfounded. He immediately blurted out:
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Post by: MBarnum on October 18, 2004, 03:29:38 PM: "May your dancing bells linger in my heart thereafter!"

It would see that Rivka, now named Sharmila, and the Ogre, now known as Ramesh, had become characters in a colorful Bollywood musical (circa 1965). Sharmila changed into a blue and green sari and the ogre sprang into song (with the voice of Kishore Kumar dubbed in)...the song went like this:
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Post by: bk on October 18, 2004, 03:33:13 PM: "YOU'RE JEWISH?"
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Post by: bk on October 18, 2004, 03:35:11 PM: There is an ASCAP event this Wednesday - my friend Adryan Russ is involved with it in some capacity or other (I think) and she asked me to post the info right here at haineshisway.com - so, here it is. Sounds like a fun evening to me.

The Society of Composers & Lyricists
and ASCAP

present

An Evening of Cabaret

Wednesday, October 20, 2004
8:30 pm

Featuring Broadway stars
SUSAN EGAN and JASON GRAAE
Accompanied by GERALD STERNBACH

Plus, celebrated New York songwriters
MARCY HEISLER & ZINA GOLDRICH

The Catalina Bar & Grill
6725 Sunset Blvd. (just east of Highland Ave.)
Hollywood, CA 90028

Show only:
$25/person plus 2-drink minimum

Dinner and the show:
$60/person ASCAP and SCL members
$75/person non-members

RESERVATIONS (show only): (323) 466-2210
RESERVATIONS (dinner & show): (818) 905 7906

Parking in the building, available for $6.00.
Entrance to the new, beautiful Catalina Bar & Grill
is via the parking garage.
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Post by: Jane on October 18, 2004, 03:38:03 PM: Wow, there is a woman running for state treasure who says she is a candidate that serves and obeys the Lord Jesus Christ and with His help will strive to glorify His name as State Treasurer-Wow! There were various checks, with good conscience she would not sign.
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Post by: Emily on October 18, 2004, 03:39:47 PM: After filming a rousing all-dancing, all-singing round of "You're Jewish!", Sharmila and Ramesh decided to go out for dinner.

They sat down at a table and Sharmila ordered a spinach dish while Ramesh went for...
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Post by: Jane on October 18, 2004, 03:45:00 PM: A nut burger. Love had transformed him.
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Post by: elmore3003 on October 18, 2004, 03:46:20 PM: Everything vegetarian on the menu. Ogres are huge and eat twice their weight a day.
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Post by: elmore3003 on October 18, 2004, 03:48:13 PM: I forgot to mention two other works of fantasy I love:

FINIAN'S RAINBOW: bigotry, leprechauns and songs!
CHARMED: callme a chick, I've become addicted to it for its humor, warmth, scares and sentimentality.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on October 18, 2004, 03:52:09 PM: Quote from: bk on October 18, 2004, 03:35:11 PM
There is an ASCAP event this Wednesday - my friend Adryan Russ is involved with it in some capacity or other (I think) and she asked me to post the info right here at haineshisway.com - so, here it is. Sounds like a fun evening to me.

The Society of Composers & Lyricists
and ASCAP

present

An Evening of Cabaret

Wednesday, October 20, 2004
8:30 pm

Featuring Broadway stars
SUSAN EGAN and JASON GRAAE
Accompanied by GERALD STERNBACH

Plus, celebrated New York songwriters
MARCY HEISLER & ZINA GOLDRICH

The Catalina Bar & Grill
6725 Sunset Blvd. (just east of Highland Ave.)
Hollywood, CA 90028

Show only:
$25/person plus 2-drink minimum

Reasonable!

Quote
Dinner and the show:
$60/person ASCAP and SCL members
$75/person non-members

$35-$45 per person for a dinner? Is that the norm?

That must mean that drinks (2-drink minimum) are at leat $10 apiece, yes?
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Post by: elmore3003 on October 18, 2004, 03:54:03 PM: However, the salad dressing stank. The ogre and Rivkah were quite displeased about the house dressing. "What can I do?" asked the innkeeper. "It's all the fault of the witch on the hill. She refuses to sell us any good spices."

"Well," said the ogre, "We'll have to pay her a visit."
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on October 18, 2004, 03:55:03 PM: Quote from: elmore3003 on October 18, 2004, 03:48:13 PM

CHARMED: callme a chick, I've become addicted to it for its humor, warmth, scares and sentimentality.

More power to you, DR Elmoore!

That precious way of talking they have just drives me UP the wall! I mean...come on! Nobody talks like that, do they???!!!

:D

And every single episode is a crisis in which someone is trying to kill one of them, two of them, three of them or all of them. It's non-stop. I get anxiety attacks just thinking about watching the show...how could anyone "real" have lasted as long as those Halliwell girls have lasted?

I used to watch...truly, I did. Hated Shannon Daugherty. Glad to see her character die. Real glad.

But oh....my....gosh. Her replacement bores me to tears. I find myself rooting for the demons to off those Halliwell ditzes before the whole world gets infected with that staccato/clipped syntax they all use when delivering
lines.

You're a far more tolerant soul than I!
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Post by: bk on October 18, 2004, 03:55:36 PM: Not sure how it works - I'm sure it's some kind of fund-raiser for the Society. However, since I am not a member of the Society I shall not be supping even though I may attend.
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Post by: elmore3003 on October 18, 2004, 03:59:19 PM: Quote from: RLP on October 18, 2004, 03:55:03 PM
More power to you, DR Elmoore!

That precious way of talking they have just drives me UP the wall! I mean...come on! Nobody talks like that, do they???!!!

DR RLP, you remind me so much of several of the Charmed Ones! It's always been my maxim, said Mrs Trapes, that one man's whimsy is another's poison.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on October 18, 2004, 04:01:12 PM: What?

Huh?

Say who?
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Post by: bk on October 18, 2004, 04:01:19 PM: It's all horse racing, you see. For example, I do not find Eric Benet sexy, gorgeous, or even decent-looking. Others do. I find Filet o' Fishes to my liking. Others don't. You say potato and I say potato - you see?
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Post by: bk on October 18, 2004, 04:04:14 PM: Meanwhile, Chastity Rivka Reuben called on the Wizard of Chandra to help her with the ogre - for she felt the ogre had goodness in him and could be quite a swellegant person if only he'd stop gutting animals. Yes, she could work her magic, but wasn't it more magical if the ogre would stop by himself? Chastity gazed at the ogre and said, "You haven't told me your name yet."
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Post by: elmore3003 on October 18, 2004, 04:04:22 PM: Quote from: bk on October 18, 2004, 04:01:19 PM
It's all horse racing, you see. For example, I do not find Eric Benet sexy, gorgeous, or even decent-looking. Others do. I find Filet o' Fishes to my liking. Others don't. You say potato and I say potato - you see?

I say potahto.
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Post by: elmore3003 on October 18, 2004, 04:05:30 PM: "It's Oscar," he said. "I really hate this salad dressing. Do you think we can reason with this witch up on the hill?"
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Post by: bk on October 18, 2004, 04:08:48 PM: But Chastity didn't know from a witch on the hill, she only knew from the fool on the hill. Still, she suggested that Oscar sounded like an award-winning name to her.
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Post by: bk on October 18, 2004, 04:12:15 PM: I am quite sated from my Taco Bell meal. I haven't decided on a DVD for this evening (although I'm in the middle of Nick Ray's A Woman's Secret, which I watch every night on the bedroom TV before sleeping) - it might be a home-grown DVD I received today entitled Goyokin, a film of Hideo Gosha. I saw it in the mid-eighties for the first time and really liked it a lot, so I'm curious to see the quality of the home-grown DVD (which is widescreen and subtitled) and I'm curious to see if I still like it as much. Interestingly, this film was remade by Tom Laughlin as The Master Gunfighter (which IS available on DVD) - literally, a shot-for-shot remake. Mr. Laughlin had a moviola on the set and just aped every single shot in Goyokin. That's chutzpah.
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Post by: elmore3003 on October 18, 2004, 04:15:03 PM: Quote from: bk on October 18, 2004, 04:12:15 PM
I am quite sated from my Taco Bell meal. I haven't decided on a DVD for this evening (although I'm in the middle of Nick Ray's A Woman's Secret, which I watch every night on the bedroom TV before sleeping) - it might be a home-grown DVD I received today entitled Goyokin, a film of Hideo Gosha. I saw it in the mid-eighties for the first time and really liked it a lot, so I'm curious to see the quality of the home-grown DVD (which is widescreen and subtitled) and I'm curious to see if I still like it as much. Interestingly, this film was remade by Tom Laughlin as The Master Gunfighter (which IS available on DVD) - literally, a shot-for-shot remake. Mr. Laughlin had a moviola on the set and just aped every single shot in Goyokin. That's chutzpah.

That goes beyond chutzpah. Sounds like theft to me.
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Post by: elmore3003 on October 18, 2004, 04:26:57 PM: Quote from: RLP on October 18, 2004, 03:55:03 PM

I get anxiety attacks just thinking about watching the show...how could anyone "real" have lasted as long as those Halliwell girls have lasted?

DR RLP, they're not "real;" it's fantasy!
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Post by: elmore3003 on October 18, 2004, 04:28:32 PM: [move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%] PAGE 5! PAGE 5!! DANCE TIME!

[/move] ;D ;D :) ;) :o :o :o ??? ??? ::) ::) ::) :-* :-\ :-X :-* :-\ :-X
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Post by: TCB on October 18, 2004, 04:31:15 PM: Quote from: MBarnum on October 18, 2004, 07:29:10 AM

In November I will hopefully be having lunch with actor Cal Bolder. He was a Los Angeles motor cop for 14 years and I am looking forward to hearing his stories! In fact he was "discovered" by a talent agent who he was ticketing for speeding! LOL!

Michael...Michael...Michael.... I doubt seriously that your desire to meet Cal Bolder has anything to do with the stories he could tell you about his days as an L.A cop!
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Post by: elmore3003 on October 18, 2004, 04:33:20 PM: Quote from: TCB on October 18, 2004, 04:31:15 PM
Michael...Michael...Michael.... I doubt seriously that your desire to meet Cal Bolder has anything to do with the stories he could tell you about his days as an L.A cop!

DRTCB, what are you trying to tell us about DRMBarnum? You don't mean?
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Post by: elmore3003 on October 18, 2004, 04:38:02 PM: I just received a piece of junk mail offering me a Rolex for $1.00 or some cheap price, but it's heading was "You bastard you." Now I ask you, is that any way to charm or beguile a potential customer. It's like an ad for a beauty parlor beginning, "Hey Skank"
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Post by: Matthew on October 18, 2004, 04:42:44 PM: Ever lovin' Eric votes for "Lord of the Rings", he thinks it was a good adaptation and also casts his vote for "Interview With the Vampire" Personally, I'm not a huge fan of sci-fi and fantasy, but I loved the Harry Potter books and thought the movies, especially the the third movie, were good representations of the series.

Do you think because Brooke got such wonderful reviews she may get a cast recording like she got for "Grease"?

Off to get a pumpkin!
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Post by: Matthew on October 18, 2004, 04:43:28 PM: Dear... did I put us in Cinema-scope??
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Post by: bk on October 18, 2004, 04:48:42 PM: No Cinemascope here in the City of Studio/
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Post by: bk on October 18, 2004, 04:50:09 PM: Just put in the DVD of Goyokin. I got in on eBay knowing it was home-grown (it's never been on video in the US or elsewhere, only in Japan and sans subtitles), so imagine my surprise that the listing was entirely accurate - enhanced for widescreen TVs, great-looking and with excellent subtitles. Couldn't be happier.
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Post by: bk on October 18, 2004, 04:50:56 PM: It's quite rainy here. I like looking at the raindrops fall in the swimming pool. I may Jacuzzi later even if it IS raining, just for the fun of it.
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Post by: elmore3003 on October 18, 2004, 04:52:49 PM: Quote from: bk on October 18, 2004, 04:50:56 PM
It's quite rainy here. I like looking at the raindrops fall in the swimming pool. I may Jacuzzi later even if it IS raining, just for the fun of it.

Rainy days and Mondays . . .
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Post by: bk on October 18, 2004, 04:57:21 PM: Never get me down.
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Post by: TCB on October 18, 2004, 05:01:03 PM: Quote from: elmore3003 on October 18, 2004, 01:22:40 PM
God, I love you all so much! Dear Friend BK is right; this is the best site and nuclear family anyone could want.

Thanks for the vibes, but I'd rather you wait till next Monday while I'm across the street at Holy Trinity praying for us all! DRJane can testify I live directly across from a beautiful church!

My dear elmore3003, you can be sure that the good vibes from those of us at HHW may be starting today, but they will continue on from today until such time as you are totally recovered and feeling as good as new.
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Post by: elmore3003 on October 18, 2004, 05:04:04 PM: Quote from: TCB on October 18, 2004, 05:01:03 PM
My dear elmore3003, you can be sure that the good vibes from those of us at HHW may be starting today, but they will continue on from today until such time as you are totally recovered and feeling as good as new.

To paraphrase Frank loesser, my heart is so full of all of you!
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on October 18, 2004, 05:04:17 PM: Quote from: bk on October 18, 2004, 04:01:19 PM
It's all horse racing, you see. For example, I do not find Eric Benet sexy, gorgeous, or even decent-looking. Others do. I find Filet o' Fishes to my liking. Others don't. You say potato and I say potato - you see?

Or...

(Click here (http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=tomato&x=19&y=9) and then on the two little red speaker icons.
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Post by: bk on October 18, 2004, 05:06:08 PM: I may take a drive in the rain after rush hour traffic subsides. I really like tooling around in my automobile whilst the rain is falling.
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Post by: bk on October 18, 2004, 05:08:37 PM: Welcome to our newest registered user, loveleelynn. Don't be shy now, just jump right in, the posting's fine.
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Post by: bk on October 18, 2004, 05:22:44 PM: The rain is abating, so perhaps I will not take a drive in the rain.
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Post by: Danise on October 18, 2004, 05:22:51 PM: Best wishes and good vibes to DR Elmore! Be well!

My goodness! If there was ever a subject near and dear to my heart, it’s science fiction and fantasy books!

Where does one even START??

The Xanth series
Bio of a Space Tyrant series
Ox
Orn
The Apprentice Adept series
To name but a few by Piers Anthony

The Ship Who Sang
The Ship Who Searched
Crystal Singer
Killashandra
Crystal Line
Dragon Riders of Pern Series
To name but a few by Anne McCaffrey

Dune—the entire series both by Frank Herbert and the new ones by his son.

The Deed of Paksenarrion By Elizabeth Moon

The Gateway books by Frederick Pohl

Ender’s Game Series by Orson Scott Card

The works of Robert A. Heinlein, Ray Bradberry, Harland Ellison, and to many more to name.

Of course, the classics that were already mentioned as well.

I’m leaving out hundreds of other books/stories I have read and enjoyed. I have barely scratched the surface.

Yes, I do like Science Fiction and Fantasy stories. Very, very, very (that's 3 verys) much so!!!! :D

Well, there was bulldozer parked at the condemned house next store when I got home tonight. I guess that means the house will be coming down tomorrow. Part of me is glad but oddly enough a part is very sad.

I hate this house and have threatened to burn it down but would never really do it. The house next store is the twin to this one. There is something sad about knowing one twin will be "dying" on the morrow.
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Post by: bk on October 18, 2004, 05:30:28 PM: Where were we in the story of Chastity Rivka Reuben in the land of Chandra?
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Post by: Danise on October 18, 2004, 05:40:28 PM: So off to see the witch on hill about making the salad dressing taste better they went.

"Of course I will give the herbs you need," said the witch "If I didn't that would be very wicked of me. But first, I must ask you to do something for me......."
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Post by: Jane on October 18, 2004, 05:55:11 PM: I knew Danise would have something to say about today’s subject.

TCB-always funy. ;D
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Post by: Jane on October 18, 2004, 06:01:34 PM: About an hour ago I felt something go POP in my back. I have iced it and it is improving. It has to be better by tomorrow.

Tomorrow is the day I learn how to give Bogie fluids and I’m nervous. I hope he handles it well. We just received the results of his latest blood work and we are not happy at all.

Because I just received the bad news and am a bit emotional at the moment, I’m going to vent- having two pets declining at once is really shitty!! :'(

Thanks goodness I have this wonderful place to go where people make me laugh. :)
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Post by: bk on October 18, 2004, 06:11:57 PM: Bogie will get through it because he has you, darling Jane, to make things as good as they can be.
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Post by: bk on October 18, 2004, 06:13:04 PM: Welcome five GUESTS. Can you see me? I can see you. Oops.
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Post by: Noel on October 18, 2004, 06:17:49 PM: In the witch's larder was a supply of herbs and spices not usually used for cooking and, in fact, unknown to even Mr. Lundie. Each herb or spice had a special purpose, and each will prove essential to understanding this tale as it unfolds. Ready now? Are you taking notes? They were
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Post by: Jane on October 18, 2004, 06:19:23 PM: That is very sweet of you Bruce and made me feel better. Thank you. But that is just the problem, he might get through this step but not the next one and he is my very special cat.
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Post by: bk on October 18, 2004, 06:20:52 PM: Sweets, you can only do your best, and know that Bogie loves you for it. That's all any of us can do in this cockeyed caravan - oh, a Preson Sturges reference.
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Post by: bk on October 18, 2004, 06:26:04 PM: Gee, a couple of GUESTS disappeared - how surprising. As James Mason said in North by Northwest - "Games? Must we?"
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Post by: bk on October 18, 2004, 06:29:10 PM: One of the spices was known to no one except Chastity Rivka Reuben. It was called Jkskjg, and was pronounced "lipschitz". This spice (never used in cooking, of course) was very powerful, more powerful than the spice melange.
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Post by: Jane on October 18, 2004, 06:57:11 PM: Bruce, so true, but God it hurts. We are in a strange reality here, wondering which of our beloved pets will go first and how soon.

Sorry. Now I shall return to my normal upbeat self. :)
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Post by: Jane on October 18, 2004, 06:57:36 PM: Mbarnum did you receive your ballot today? I just read they have to be mailed by the 19th.
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Post by: Jane on October 18, 2004, 07:22:10 PM: SWW & DerBrucer-good luck on the adoption tomorrow.
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Post by: S. Woody White on October 18, 2004, 07:36:13 PM: All right, let's see if I can get caught up here a little bit with the storytelling.

Yesterday, der Brucer decided that the weather was good enough to put Zeus on display. It was a crisp autumn day, with just enough sun to fool me into thinking that I wouldn't need a coat of any kind. Fortunately, der B had packed an extra coat for such an emergency.

We ran a couple of fliers about Zeus on the color printer, with his picture and a description of his health and situation. Zeus, for those who haven't kept track, is our foster dog, about seven years old, looking to be part collie/part retriever, with other parts mixed in as well. His previous owners had found him by the side of the road, either lost or abandoned, when he was about six months old. Six years later, his family was having to give up their home to move in with the mother-in-law's apartment, and there simply wasn't any room for Zeus. The teenaged daughter was shedding tears as we picked him up a week ago; we promised her that we would find Zeus the best home possible.

He's an even-tempered dog, great on a leash, loves getting pets from passers-by, wonderful with children. He's had all his shots. The only problem that we can think of is his dislike of cats.

Our first stop on Sunday afternoon was a place called Aqua, which has a large patio in front. Once a month, they have a Doggy-Hour for the Delaware Humane Society, where dogs of all kinds who need homes are brought to meet perspective owners. We were a week early, but we wanted to make sure Zeus was comfortable with being shown off. He absolutely was happy in his environment. He quickly made friends with Antonio, the ten-year-old son of the cook. But it was a bit late in the afternoon when we got there, and there were no other customers.

From Aqua, and at the suggestion of the Aqua staff, we headed over to Cafe Zeus. Owners Charles and John are friends of ours, and named the cafe after one of their labradors. We checked first, and were invited to take Zeus to the back patio, where a gathering of friends was taking place.

Charles and John had just had quite a weekend. They were sold out on most of their menu, and had printed up a special limited menu to help steer customers towards what was still in their kitchen. As Charles, the chef of the duo, noted, they had run through eighteen dozen eggs for brunch alone. In fact, they were down to just two entrees: beef tournedos and sun-dried tomato sauce with potato straws, and Ahi tuna steak with flat bread and mixed field greens. (Of course, Charles' take on lobster bisque is amazing all on it's own.)

So, we joined Charles and John and some of their friends out on the patio. They had also had a promotion going on during brunch for some of Dame Edna's DVDs, a couple of which ended up in my hands. ;D Zeus immediately attracted attention from everyone. In particular, a husband and wife named Greg and Daphne were interested in him. Greg isn't exactly a total pushover when it comes to animals, but he was zeroing in on Zeus within moments of our arrival.

At this point, I made a mistake. Der Brucer wanted a martini, two olives, but not with what he's been drinking lately, a brand of gin called Junipero. So, not knowing much about gin, which I cannot drink, I ordered something for him that I knew he'd ordered before, with Bombay Sapphire Gin. I had no idea that the brew was as strong, if not stronger, than Junipero. Me, I stuck to a rail Manhattan.

So, while Greg and der B were convincing Daphne that adding Zeus to their family was a good idea (Zeus doing his part by loving every stroke Daphne made through his locks), the first drinks disappeared. A second round was ordered.

By the time the second round was pretty much finished, it was agreed that Greg would be giving us a call soon. It was a good thing that that's as far as things went yesterday, because der B was barely in shape to get us home again.

Greg and Daphne haven't called yet, but our hopes for Zeus are still good. Charles and John would have given us a signal if they didn't think the couple would be a good match.

And that's where we stand, at least for the moment.
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Post by: S. Woody White on October 18, 2004, 07:37:05 PM: Quote from: Jane on October 18, 2004, 07:22:10 PM
SWW & DerBrucer-good luck on the adoption tomorrow.
See above!
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Post by: S. Woody White on October 18, 2004, 07:38:58 PM: Hmmm, a birthday.

DiT-DiT-DiT Dash-Dash-Dash DiT-DiT-DiT!
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Post by: Matt H. on October 18, 2004, 07:42:39 PM: Just wanted to say hello; I must be going. . . .

Oh, that Groucho!
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Post by: Jane on October 18, 2004, 07:47:27 PM: SWW I look forward to a happy ending to this story. I feel so bad for the teenage daughter who had to give up Zeus.
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Post by: S. Woody White on October 18, 2004, 07:47:29 PM: Quote from: Noel on October 18, 2004, 10:05:39 AM
...While these rules are being explained, my eyes glaze over. I find rule-explanation very boring.
This explains your antipathy about cars, and rules of the road.
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Post by: S. Woody White on October 18, 2004, 07:49:42 PM: Quote from: bk on October 18, 2004, 10:15:14 AM
Another fantasy-esque book I'm quite fond of is Jack Finney's Time and Again, but then I'm a sucker for most any time-travel story that involves going BACK in time.
Ditto, but remember, for the woman our hero loves, the plot involves a journey FORWARD in time! Their differing reactions is perhaps one of the best contrasts any writer has made in the time-travel genre.
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Post by: Sandra on October 18, 2004, 07:52:17 PM: The witch mixed the salad dressing in with some little baby corns, pickled beets, cucumber slices, chow mein noodles, and shredded cheese. She called this amazing mixture "floop" and Rivka and Oscar agreed that it was the best thing they'd ever tasted. Then the witch opened two cans of Cherry Coke and gave them to Rivka and Oscar.

This was the best meal they had ever eaten, and decided that they never wanted to leave. So they stayed. And stayed. And stayed, and it very soon drove the witch crazy.
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Post by: S. Woody White on October 18, 2004, 07:59:59 PM: Quote from: RLP on October 18, 2004, 12:57:18 PM
I thought "Shoeless Joe" made a fantastic film: "Field of Dreams".

It's sheer magic to me.
I encountered the film first, then the book. As CP has noted in other cases, the book is better.

But what a magnificent translation from one medium to another!

The differences between the two are mainly in the book's use of reality (including Kinsella as author and hero) which doesn't/cannot come into a film-viewer's sense of what is happening on the screen.

In other words, another ditto.
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Post by: Jane on October 18, 2004, 08:01:59 PM: Sandra-LOL. With that happy thought I will say good night.
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Post by: S. Woody White on October 18, 2004, 08:10:27 PM: Quote from: RLP on October 18, 2004, 03:55:03 PM
...That precious way of talking they have just drives me UP the wall! I mean...come on! Nobody talks like that, do they???!!!...
Only on Charmed...

...and Iron Chef!

;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on October 18, 2004, 08:40:43 PM: "Floop! Floop! Floop!", muttered the witch. "That's all that Jewish girl and that ogre will eat! Every day and night, it's Floop! Floop! Floop! For breakfast, lunch and dinner, Floop! Floop! Floop! And if I have to open one more can of Cherry Coke, I will belch my head off my neck!"

And so the witch thought. And she thought some more. And she had an idea. A terrible idea. An awful, horrible, terrible idea.

The next morning at breakfast, Chastity Rivka and Oscar sat at the witch's table eagerly awaiting their Floop and Cherry Coke. As they were tucking in their napkins, the witch burst into the kitchen carrying...
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Post by: bk on October 18, 2004, 08:42:21 PM: I'm back from my little jaunt. Thank goodness I took it for I found an early copy of the new Criterion DVD of Eyes Without a Face, which I may have to watch this very evening. I'm now heating up the Jacuzzi, which will probably take a good hour.
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on October 18, 2004, 08:51:07 PM: BTW (internet lingo!), did today's topic remind anyone of the Eek & Meek comic strip? All I remember is that it was about two mice named Eek and Meek and that they wore derbys.
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Post by: Sandra on October 18, 2004, 09:08:50 PM: Quote from: Dan (the Man) on October 18, 2004, 08:40:43 PM
"Floop! Floop! Floop!", muttered the witch. "That's all that Jewish girl and that ogre will eat! Every day and night, it's Floop! Floop! Floop! For breakfast, lunch and dinner, Floop! Floop! Floop! And if I have to open one more can of Cherry Coke, I will belch my head off my neck!"

And so the witch thought. And she thought some more. And she had an idea. A terrible idea. An awful, horrible, terrible idea.

The next morning at breakfast, Chastity Rivka and Oscar sat at the witch's table eagerly awaiting their Floop and Cherry Coke. As they were tucking in their napkins, the witch burst into the kitchen carrying...

...a dish of mashed potatoes, endive, and hamburger, a recipe she had gotten from her grandmother. Rivka and Oscar took one look at this "food," which looked like a rabbit and thrown up and pooped in snow, and ran away from her house screaming, vowing never to return.
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Post by: bk on October 18, 2004, 10:19:29 PM: Holy moley on rye, no posts for over an hour. Skammen.
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Post by: Panni on October 18, 2004, 10:41:31 PM: I think there's series potential in Rivka and the Ogre. But I have news, DRs, so can't talk about I Love Rivka! or Leave it to Rivka or Rivka Knows Best or The Rivka Zone...

I have NEWS
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on October 18, 2004, 10:45:28 PM: ...... on pins and needles, awaiting Panni's news......
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Post by: Panni on October 18, 2004, 10:55:33 PM: My NEWS...
Remember that cute house I posted pictures of?...
...Well - Never mind.
I'm not moving to that house. I accidentally found ANOTHER house. Actually half a house -- the upper half of a duplex in the City of Studio. I wasn't looking for a place. I had a place. But this place came and found ME.
Today I had a few errands to do on Ventura Blvd. in the City of Studio. I parked my car on the first street south of the boulevard (which is how Ventura is known to the restless natives). This is one of my favorite streets. In fact, I've often said that if I could live anywhere, it would be on this street. There is a house on this, my favorite street, that I always look at when I pass by because it’s one of my favorites on the favorite street – a two-storey Spanish-style edifice with an upper balcony. I parked across the street from it - the only available spot.
When I came back from doing my errands – which included looking for a new sofa for what I thought would be my new house - I saw a sign which hadn’t been there when I parked an hour earlier. In front of the house I so admire was a FOR LEASE notice with a phone number. I couldn’t believe it! At first I was set to drive away, but finally decided that I had to at least find out about it. I called the number on my cell phone, sitting in my car across the street from the house. The woman who answered was surprised to be called so soon. She had put the sign up 15 minutes before.
I asked about the place. It was the upper duplex, two bedrooms, dining room, a small den area, etc. I saw it a few hours later.
The rest, as they say, is herstory.
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Post by: Panni on October 18, 2004, 10:57:19 PM: One of the previous owners of the house, BTW, was the drummer of The Grateful Dead.
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Post by: TCB on October 18, 2004, 11:09:10 PM: I must confess that I am not a big fan of either science fiction or fantasy books. I have never read Tolken, never read the Wizard of Oz books, and have fallen asleep on several occasions trying to read Ray Bradbury. Remarkably, I have never felt deprived by this flaw in my character until I came to this site. In my non-internet life I have friends who enjoy science fiction and/ or fantasy, but I have an equal number of friends that don't read either one.

When it comes to film, I enjoy a few more of these than I do books. Although, I have in the past explained that I barely managed to make it through Part One of LORD OF THE RINGS; given the choice, I would gladly watch the entire trilogy in one sitting rather than have to sit through any one of the STAR WARS' films. I do enjoy HARRY POTTER on film (and even the books), George Pal's TIME MACHINE remains one of my favorite films of all time, and I have enjoyed most of the Jules Verne-based films.

On television, I love STARGATE, SG-1 and I am totally addicted to a Canadian series that ran only one season back in 2000, called THE SECRET ADVENTRUES OF JULES VERNE.

So, I'm weird!
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Post by: TCB on October 18, 2004, 11:15:33 PM: Oh, and I almost forgot, one of the greatest films of all time (Get it? Time): TIME AFTER TIME. I love that movie!!!
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Post by: TCB on October 18, 2004, 11:16:35 PM: Congratulations on the house, Panni!
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on October 18, 2004, 11:17:34 PM: Congratulations on finding the perfect house, Panni! We hope to see pictures soon!!
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Post by: Panni on October 18, 2004, 11:20:21 PM: Thank you DRL and TCB!
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Post by: Panni on October 18, 2004, 11:24:01 PM: Quote from: TCB on October 18, 2004, 11:15:33 PM
Oh, and I almost forgot, one of the greatest films of all time (Get it? Time): TIME AFTER TIME. I love that movie!!!

Written by my dear friend, Steve Hayes, who has been married 12 times!
(Talk about time after time.)
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Post by: Jrand74 on October 18, 2004, 11:30:55 PM: A NEW new house. Whew!

Congratulations, DRPANNI. And of course, you know the story of Lucille Ball buying her house. She had agreed and came out the front door, saw the house across the street and decided that is the house she wanted. Lucy walked over, knocked on the front door and asked if it was for sale. The woman was a bit surprised and said she and her husband had just decided that morning to sell and hadn't even contacted a realtor!

Lucy lived in the house until she went to Desilu in the sky.
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Post by: Jrand74 on October 18, 2004, 11:31:39 PM: Mr BK I never got my DVD and they are not responding to emails any more.
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Post by: Jrand74 on October 18, 2004, 11:33:11 PM: [move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]Page Seven Dance [/move] ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: bk on October 18, 2004, 11:55:37 PM: Jrand, I've threatened them, and I've also reported them to paypal and asked for a refund. They sent me an e-mail yesterday saying the DVD was going out today. Of course, they said it was going out on 10/9 originally. Leave them BIG negative feedback - they've had close to forty negatives in the last three weeks - people will get the idea.