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Title: HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: bk on October 19, 2004, 11:59:02 PM: Well, you've read the notes, the notes have rained down upon you, you've rained down upon the notes, and now it is time for you to post until the rainy cows come home.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Noel on October 20, 2004, 12:01:47 AM: I was going to do a page eight dance, but I guess the tide has turned
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Noel on October 20, 2004, 12:06:06 AM: Quote from: bk on October 19, 2004, 11:59:02 PM
I don't think there's another metropolitan city that has spent more money ripping up streets and "fixing" the sewers that has worse sewer problems than Los Angeles. Every week our driving is ruined because somewhere at all times they are ripping up streets and "fixing" and it's just hogwash or we wouldn't be having these problems from what in essence is one day of heavy rainfall

It's hogwash? You mean there are hogs somewhere in Los Angeles? I guess you're lucky it doesn't rain often.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on October 20, 2004, 12:19:12 AM: Yes, I've never seen a city fall apart like LA does when you get a little rain; this would be nothing in Kentucky.

And, yes, Mr. Kimmel, we will be eating at Schwabs, so I hope when you fell and hurt your arm tonight, it wasn't your eating arm.

Well, I've learned something about my new dog, Tewkes, tonight. He hates the rain. We got caught in a shower in mid-walk this evening and he couldn't wait to get back inside, ran all the way. He's like old Humbug was in that way; now old Cully didn't mind at all. I tried to take him out a half hour ago under the eaves of the house and then under the cover of the back blacony. Both places were dry. But he didn't do anything, just ran back to the respective doors and wanted in. Now I have to wait up till this slacks off before I go to bed. I think it just did. Gotta run.
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Post by: Noel on October 20, 2004, 12:19:20 AM: Message by Panni
Quote
We've passed the 200 mark!
It's still coming down like crazy. I'm building an ark. Or since I'm in Hollywood - an ARC.

Not only an arc, but there must be an inciting incident. And you'll need to start a new act every 60 pages or so

Did someone's new street get mentioned in the notes?

(That will get people to read 'em!)
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Post by: Charles Pogue on October 20, 2004, 12:20:55 AM: No such luck. We have an old rain slicker that Hotspur used to wear. Maybe I'll try that. This dog has to bleed his lizard and do any other business he may have. I wanna go to bed.
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Post by: bk on October 20, 2004, 12:35:05 AM: Madison Square Garden was indeed at 50th and 8th but had already moved to its present location by 1968. My book begins at the end of 1969, so I'm hopeful that the info I was given is correct. Again, in all my research I was never able to find any mention of the exact location, and so relied totally on Mr. Walton and Mr. Schmidt, who seemed fairly sure. But, as someone said yesterday, thankfully the book is fiction.
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Post by: Jrand73 on October 20, 2004, 12:42:12 AM: Don't sweat it....Mr Walton and Mr Schmidt are lively reliable sources for something that specific.

Wednesday! DRJOSE sounds like he is working in the salt mines....hopefully he can get through it the next couple of days. GOOD REHEARSAL VIBES to DRJOSE.

Cal Bolder.......so what was that about that ticket? Horror-Wood is a funny site. That is where my Allison Hayes bio is - has been there a few years and is linked at several sites - so any information you put there DRMBARNUM will be archived and available to anyone doing a search for Mr Bolder! Or Frankenstein or the daughter of Jesse James.
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Post by: Jrand73 on October 20, 2004, 12:46:48 AM: I am looking forward to the POTO movie as well. You can view the preview trailer online on the official site by going to IMDB and searching the title. There is a link. As DRJAY said, it is difficult to tell about anything from the fast cutting of the trailer - but it does look lavish. I am only concerned about Miss Minnie Driver as Carlotta....oh well....

My question for ASKBK day - when you are/were rehearsing a show such as HAPPY DAYS if you come up with a funny line were you able to use it, or a funny bit of business, did the director/producer/writers encourage such things, or were you tied to the script? I know during film, you wouldn't want to do such a thing - but during read thrus or rehearsals....and if so...what is the funniest "bit" you added to a show that we should look for?

My second question.....when you were working with her, did Miss Dinah Shore realize that she couldn't sing anymore? And what happened to her voice?
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Jrand73 on October 20, 2004, 12:47:19 AM: Oh - wear your tightest sweater to Schwab's and order an ice cream soda.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Panni on October 20, 2004, 12:52:35 AM: Well, off to bed. I like listening to the rain, all warm and comfy under the covers.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: S. Woody White on October 20, 2004, 02:02:59 AM: Our own rains here in Delaware seem to have died down for the moment. After a lifetime in the desert, the amount of rain I've seen in the past year is refreshing.

Question for BK and all others: You're at a hamburger joint, where all the fixings you could want on your hamburger have been laid out, buffet style. What do you put on your burger.

(Jane: feel free to gardenburger.)

Me, I'm satisfied with some bacon, a slice of Swiss cheese, a very thin slice of red onion, and a squirt of mustard (yep, the yellow kind). Maybe a little lettuce, iceberg is o.k. but it has to be the leafy part and not the ribs. But I do want the bun toasted a little.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: S. Woody White on October 20, 2004, 02:05:09 AM: Second question:

What films are you looking forward to seeing in the next couple of months?

The only film that is a must-see on my list, right now, is The Incredibles.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Jrand73 on October 20, 2004, 02:47:22 AM: Has any DR used the Ticketmaster service that emails you the tickets and you print them out?

Did it turn out okay? What do you print the tickets on? Does it matter?
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Jrand73 on October 20, 2004, 02:48:41 AM: Cheeseburger, tomato, dill pickles chips, mayo, bacon, and lettuce.

Darn, now I'm hungry and lunch is HOURS away.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on October 20, 2004, 03:56:28 AM: Quote from: S. Woody White on October 20, 2004, 02:02:59 AM
Question for BK and all others: You're at a hamburger joint, where all the fixings you could want on your hamburger have been laid out, buffet style. What do you put on your burger.

Just ketchup, and only if it's in a sealed packet. When they're not laid out buffet-style, other fixings (Doesn't fixins sound better?) would be lettuce, tomato and pickle.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Dan (the Man) on October 20, 2004, 05:44:29 AM: I can go this way and that with hamburgers. Sometimes I want everything on it: lettuce, tomato, onions, pickles, ketchup, mustard, black pepper. Other times I want something sleeker--just onions and ketchup. But always ketchup.

And generally, unless I'm at a picnic, I don't like using a "fixin's" buffet. I don't know who's been there. Or else I do.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Dan (the Man) on October 20, 2004, 05:46:01 AM: BK Question: What is the absolutely worst book (fiction or non) you've read, beginning to end?
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Post by: elmore3003 on October 20, 2004, 06:01:27 AM: Dear Friend BK, I been thinking about this question since yesterday: what do you consider the best adaptations of a book to stage or film? Can you think of any improvement from book to film or stage?

I love a good cheeseburger with mustard, dill pickle, onion, lettuce and tomato. After all the media exposes of salad bars in Manhattan delis in the late 1980s and 1990s, I avoid them. I've never understood the appeal of ketchup on anything but french fries. Sorry.
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Post by: William E. Lurie on October 20, 2004, 06:16:10 AM: Has anyone noticed that tomorrow will be the end of year one on the revised HHW?
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Jrand73 on October 20, 2004, 06:22:30 AM: And over 70,000 posts!

Averaging nearly 180 posts per day! We must be using Platformate!
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Stuart on October 20, 2004, 07:07:15 AM: DR Panni: Lovely new digs. I look forward to inside photos. Does Abie do well with stairs?

DR Jane: I think Rachael Ray is almost as divoon as Alton Brown. She is just so bubbly, and exudes personality. Do try to be at whichever restaurants she is featuring. She seems to be delightful.

DR SWW: It may (or may not) interest you to know that Mimi Sheraton attended the alma mater of DR Jay and myself: Midwood High School.

Burgers? Kethup, mayo, lettuce, onion, tomato.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: MBarnum on October 20, 2004, 07:13:54 AM: Rain...it rains a lot here in Oregon, particularly in Salem U.S.A. It has been raining her all week and will rain at least until Sunday...or so says the channel 8 weather man.

My BK question is: As you are a fan of Ms. Astrud Gilberto, what are your favorite songs that she sings? I love her signature number THE GIRL FROM IPANEMA, and I really love WHEN THE CRICKETS SING.
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Post by: Matt H. on October 20, 2004, 08:02:49 AM: I am tentatively scheduled to go with a friend to see SHALL WE DANCE? Friday afternoon. I have a NUNCRACKERS rehearsal on Friday morning, but should be back home to see a mid-afternoon screening. I am looking forward to it.

I try to keep an open mind about remakes of other films. If the film is foreign and being "Americanized" in a redo, I will give it a chance.

What I loathe is remaking masterpieces that don't require a new version: PSYCHO, THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE. That's where I draw the line.

But we wouldn't have John Huston's masterful THE MALTESE FALCON if they hadn't botched the job in two previous attempts. I'm GRATEFUL for remakes like that.
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Post by: Matt H. on October 20, 2004, 08:04:04 AM: I, too, am looking forward to THE INCREDIBLES. I also want to see LEMONY SNICKETS. Annette Bening's new film also seems like it would be interesting.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Noel on October 20, 2004, 08:24:40 AM: Years ago I was working with a very funny man on a cabaret act. He admired Astrud Gilberto, so, I wrote him a song to sing in her style, Timid Samba:

This is just another samba
From a land that's never known
Any forceful public speakers
(We've not heard Eva Peron)
When we sing we kind of whisper
As we eat the microphone
In a word: we're timid

I would call you in a heartbeat
If I had some self-esteem
I would force you to apologize
By threatening to scream
But my voice, it has no volume
So the whole thing is a dream
In a word, I'm timid (He's timid)

Have you heard the rumor that in
Rio you can find a Latin
Breathing contempt and bile?
I am livid and I mean it!
Anybody would have seen it
Seething beneath my smile

As I modulate the key now
It's like saying "hell" or "damn"
Though my rage at you is massive
I'm as passive as a lamb
I can boss a bossa nova
But in relationships I am
In a word, trés timid.
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Post by: Jay on October 20, 2004, 08:45:46 AM: Quote from: Matt H. on October 20, 2004, 08:04:04 AM
I, too, am looking forward to THE INCREDIBLES. I also want to see LEMONY SNICKETS. Annette Bening's new film also seems like it would be interesting.

I failed to mention that I saw Being Julia the other day. Miss Bening is terrific in it and lovers of the theatre (which includes every Hainesie and Kimlet, I do believe) will get a kick out of the antics that take place in and around a London theatre in the '30s.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Jay on October 20, 2004, 08:51:39 AM: Quote from: JRand54 on October 20, 2004, 02:47:22 AM
Has any DR used the Ticketmaster service that emails you the tickets and you print them out?

Did it turn out okay? What do you print the tickets on? Does it matter?

I've used that process with other ticket providers, but not Ticketmonster. I just printed the tickets on regular copier/printer paper.

Do note that Ticketmonster adds yet another service charge if you do print the tickets at your printer. This makes zero sense to me, as you are saving the company the burden of materials, labor and postage. But then again, neither logic nor friendliness to the customer have ever been factored into the Ticketmonster business model.
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Post by: Jennifer on October 20, 2004, 09:10:57 AM: Did anyone else see the riot squad at Yankee stadium last night? OMG, that was crazy. How on earth could those players play the game with all those police lining the side of the field.
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Post by: Jennifer on October 20, 2004, 09:15:05 AM: BK, bagels, cream cheese and lox are NOT junk.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: bk on October 20, 2004, 09:22:52 AM: Quote from: JRand54 on October 20, 2004, 12:46:48 AM

My question for ASKBK day - when you are/were rehearsing a show such as HAPPY DAYS if you come up with a funny line were you able to use it, or a funny bit of business, did the director/producer/writers encourage such things, or were you tied to the script? I know during film, you wouldn't want to do such a thing - but during read thrus or rehearsals....and if so...what is the funniest "bit" you added to a show that we should look for?

My second question.....when you were working with her, did Miss Dinah Shore realize that she couldn't sing anymore? And what happened to her voice?

I did Happy Days in its first or second season, just prior to them filming the show in front of an audience. So, with that show there was no rehearsal at all, except maybe a quick go-through for blocking just before you shot. That said, in the poker-playing episode I was given great freedom to come up with things, which I did constantly. Stuff with the dog, kicking one of the compatriots under the table repeatedly - it was a great atmosphere. Other shows weren't quite like that. And on Laverne and Shirley it was total freedom and the girls and the rest of the cast (including the guests) always came up with stuff. I can't remember specific things usually, but a lot of the blocking that was comedic was strictly Cindy and I on L&S.

I can't remember if Dinah actually ever sang on our show - I think she did, but with the rest of us. At that point she simply couldn't stay on pitch.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: bk on October 20, 2004, 09:24:40 AM: Quote from: S. Woody White on October 20, 2004, 02:02:59 AM

Question for BK and all others: You're at a hamburger joint, where all the fixings you could want on your hamburger have been laid out, buffet style. What do you put on your burger.

My favorite way to dress a plain burger is with American or cheddar cheese, bacon, onion, and thousand island dressing. If none of the latter is available, I'm fine with ketchup.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: bk on October 20, 2004, 09:27:02 AM: Quote from: S. Woody White on October 20, 2004, 02:05:09 AM
Second question:

What films are you looking forward to seeing in the next couple of months?

The only film that is a must-see on my list, right now, is The Incredibles.

Jay now has my interest piqued about the Annette Bening thing, so I might see that. I enjoy Pixar so I'll probably give The Incredibles a chance, and I'll probably see POTO. Other than those, I really have no clew as to what is coming out. The good news is that in November all screenings, whether private or regular ones in theaters will be free to DGA members (and our WGA members on this here site).
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Post by: bk on October 20, 2004, 09:31:05 AM: Quote from: Dan (the Man) on October 20, 2004, 05:46:01 AM
BK Question: What is the absolutely worst book (fiction or non) you've read, beginning to end?

I tend to stop if a book is really bad, but when I was in my real mystery phase, reading every book that came out, there was one in paticular, published by a major publisher, and which had excellent blurbs on the back (it was a first mystery for a new character that would continue) and which had a nice cover. I read this thing and I could not believe how ineptly it was written or plotted. The author showed no aptitude for writing whatsoever and it just limped its way to its conclusion which you could see coming from page ten. I'd tell you what it was but I've wiped the author's name and the title of the book from my memory. It did produce one more adventure for the detective, but that was it. I still have it but it's in a box in the garage.
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Post by: Jrand73 on October 20, 2004, 09:34:31 AM: Thanks DRJAY for the ticket info. Yes, they charge you another $2.50 for the privilege of using YOUR printer, I just didn't know if I needed special paper or anything. And I haven't QUITE decided if I will do it.
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Post by: bk on October 20, 2004, 09:35:32 AM: Quote from: elmore3003 on October 20, 2004, 06:01:27 AM
Dear Friend BK, I been thinking about this question since yesterday: what do you consider the best adaptations of a book to stage or film? Can you think of any improvement from book to film or stage?

I've said it before - to me the answer is simple: Rosemary's Baby is the single best book-to-film adaptation ever. Why? Because it IS the book - Mr. Polanski, whose first American film it was, and who was the adaptor, believed he couldn't change anything, including the dialogue. So, basically every line of dialogue is from the book, and even the clothing descriptions are from the book, and even little Polanski-like things like the guy drilling a hole in a door when Guy and Rosemary first see the apartment at the Bramford are from the book. Ira Levin told me that story, about Polanski thinking he couldn't change anything. And the only character who really doesn't look like what Levin described is Minnie Castevet, the Ruth Gordon character.

To Kill a Mockingbird is a wonderful adaptation, too. And, of course, whoever is smart enough to bring Benjamin Kritzer to the screen will do a marvelous job.
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Post by: William E. Lurie on October 20, 2004, 09:38:21 AM: I'm correcting myself. This was a leap year, so the first year of the revised HHW is Friday, not tomorrow.

The original Japanese SHALL WE DANCE was a wonderful film. I hardly think it can be topped by an American remake. It has had no many "advance preview" showings --- at least in NYC --- that I'm sure much of its potential audience had seen it before the "official" opening.
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Post by: bk on October 20, 2004, 09:47:26 AM: You see, sometimes you just block out what you don't want to talk about. I had a big note here that today was October 20th, which, if memory serves, was Black Saturday three years ago - the day in which I learned how awful human beings could be. But, that event led to this site being born, so from every evil thing is born good. Does anyone have our early November premiere date? We will definitely need to celebrate majorly. Three years ago (on a Saturday), the world came crashing down. Or so I thought. That little bit of business, in one way or another, impacted my life until just recently. Karma has worked its wonders and hopefully will continue to work its wonders on those who perpetrated the awfulness that was caused to a completely innocent victim. No one should get away with that stuff. And one of the parties responsible seems to have caused more problems for the main folks than they perceived I ever did (of course, I caused NO problems - I created a wonderful thing that could have lived and prospered had it been given a chance - that wonderful thing I created has been copied by two other labels who simply "borrowed" our role model completely, and who both seem to be surviving just fine). But out of that misery was born three Kritzer books, and writing those was the most fulfilling thing I've ever done - they got me through, as did this here site. Here's to many more years right here at haineshisway.com. And to the ones that caused the problems - skammen. I know they'll probably be reading this and if they are, well, wouldn't you think that if someone was trying to sell its assets (whatever they may be) that they'd go to the one person who'd have reason to want to try to buy them and could probably get the money to do so? Wouldn't you think, at some point, that the unbridled ego could be checked for a few minutes? I would have thought so, but that's just me.
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Post by: bk on October 20, 2004, 09:48:03 AM: For us, onwards and upwards. For people who cause grief: backwards and downwards.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on October 20, 2004, 09:48:53 AM: Burger, cheese (optional), Ketchup, and a thick slice of bermuda onion.

Worst book read all the way through: there was a series of unauthorized Tarzan books that came out during the mid-sixties written by a writing team under the pseudonym Barton Werper. They were terribly-written, sloppy books full of gaffes and bad prose, written to captalize on the mistaken notion that the books had fallen into public domain. But only a couple of the 25-6 books had and the name Tarzan was trademarked. Burroughs, Inc. shut them down after they had published five of these and all copies were destroyed. So ironically these books have become valuable collectors items in the Burroughs' fan world. The fifth one got particularly poor distribution and is extremely valuable. I've got it! They were 40 cent paperbacks; I seen them go as high as fifty-sixty dollars. No fan reads them,but they avidly collect them. I read about two before I quit.

Best film adaptation of a book. As much as I love Rafael Sabatini's work, I think the Stewart Granger SCARAMOUCHE movie is actually one of those rare times the movie may be better than book...simply because they keep him in the theatre longer. I have a poster of this movie signed by the recently deceased Janet Leigh.
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Post by: Panni on October 20, 2004, 09:53:57 AM: Will catch up on the posts later. Off to a story meeting.
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Post by: Panni on October 20, 2004, 09:57:51 AM: Just took a quick glance at bk's note. Life goes on. And you're still here (a Follies reference - sort of). Better than ever. Hooray! From now on you should think of this as WHITE WEDNESDAY.
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Post by: George on October 20, 2004, 10:09:09 AM: Quote from: JRand54 on October 20, 2004, 12:46:48 AM
I am looking forward to the POTO movie as well. You can view the preview trailer online on the official site by going to IMDB and searching the title. There is a link. As DRJAY said, it is difficult to tell about anything from the fast cutting of the trailer - but it does look lavish. I am only concerned about Miss Minnie Driver as Carlotta....oh well....

I am too and the fact that the girl playing Christine just turned 18 and Patrick Wilson (Raoul) is now 31! Their "backstory" doesn't seem likely if they're that far apart in age!
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Post by: bk on October 20, 2004, 10:10:54 AM: Whilst it is still very gray out, it is not actually raining right now.
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Post by: Emily on October 20, 2004, 10:28:12 AM: I don't really like beefy burgers (something about looking at raw ground beef always makes me go ill... and this translates into not liking the stuff cooked either). When I do eat them it's always with lettuce, salsa and mayonnaise and sometimes, but not always, some GRATED cheddar cheese. Kraft singles make everything they touch gross.

Chickeny burgers on the other hand = yum. I like them fast-food style (one very puny slice of lettuce, tomato and some mayonnaise on a sesame bun).

I also like veggie/soy burgers...
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Post by: bk on October 20, 2004, 10:30:39 AM: Emily and George are the only two people here. What are we, Our Town all of a sudden?
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Post by: Emily on October 20, 2004, 10:31:08 AM: I watched the PBS broadway thing.

I loved it but my parents and younger sister - all of whom stuck with it for a good amount of time - eventually gave up. They all complained that it seemed more like "Intro. to Early 20th Century History" (which they claim to be aware of to a good degree) and less like "Intro. to Early 20th Century Musical Theatre". In other words, more musicals and less "at the same time this or that was going on".

Meh... I enjoyed it all the same - and especially the stuff on Fanny Brice (who I know very little about!)
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Post by: Emily on October 20, 2004, 10:33:09 AM: Quote from: bk on October 20, 2004, 10:30:39 AM
Emily and George are the only two people here. What are we, Our Town all of a sudden?

My, isn't the moonlight terrible? ;)
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Post by: Jrand73 on October 20, 2004, 10:50:12 AM: DREMILY I was just about to say the same thing!!!
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Post by: Jrand73 on October 20, 2004, 10:51:51 AM: Well said MR BK. Who would have thought when I was listening to all those CD's, that someday I would be a member of a website with PERSONAL contact with the producer of said CD's?

Yes it is wonderful.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on October 20, 2004, 10:56:33 AM: Quote from: Emily on October 20, 2004, 10:33:09 AM
My, isn't the moonlight terrible? ;)

Sorry!

Is this plum too ripe? (ooh-ooh, a "Fantasticks" reference)
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on October 20, 2004, 10:57:55 AM: In anticipation of the coming rain, I planted some wildflower seeds this morning.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on October 20, 2004, 11:03:51 AM: Quote from: Charles Pogue on October 20, 2004, 09:48:53 AM
The fifth one got particularly poor distribution and is extremely valuable. I've got it! They were 40 cent paperbacks; I seen them go as high as fifty-sixty dollars. No fan reads them,but they avidly collect them. I read about two before I quit.

In the "soundtrack collecting world," the holy grail is the soundtrack to "The Caine Mutiny". It was pressed by RCA and ready for distribution when Herman Wouk threw a major hissy fit because the bulk of the album was dialogue excerpts from the film, and those excerpts violated the contract Wouk had with Warner Brothers.

The album never saw the light of day, commercially, but as many as 10 copies are alleged/believed to have been secreted out of the plant that pressed them.

Last time I saw anything on the value of one copy, it was at $10,000.

Some enterprising soul invested in a copy 15 or 20 years ago when the going price was $2,000 or so, and then paid to replicate the album, including the color jacket. Those originally sold for about $100 each, but now one of them can fetch several hundreds of dollars.

For soundtrack music "lovers," this album is a curiousity but not much more. Max Steiner's original score wasn't one of his better ones. It will likely be released in its entirety, sans dialogue, by the Brigham Young Library which is the repository for all Steiner papers, recordings, memorabilia.
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Post by: elmore3003 on October 20, 2004, 11:06:36 AM: Quote from: George on October 20, 2004, 10:09:09 AM
I am too and the fact that the girl playing Christine just turned 18 and Patrick Wilson (Raoul) is now 31! Their "backstory" doesn't seem likely if they're that far apart in age!

But, DRGeorge, don't you think Patrick Wilson looks about 18 as well?
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Post by: George on October 20, 2004, 11:11:21 AM: Quote from: elmore3003 on October 20, 2004, 11:06:36 AM
But, DRGeorge, don't you think Patrick Wilson looks about 18 as well?

Well, yes, he does. ;) BUT is Raoul supposed to be that young as well? I don't think so. And I don't think that the Christine is supposed to be much older than she really is. From the tiny clips that I've seen, she doesn't look any older than that.
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Post by: George on October 20, 2004, 11:11:32 AM: Quote from: DearReaderLaura on October 20, 2004, 10:57:55 AM
In anticipation of the coming rain, I planted some wildflower seeds this morning.

Soon it's gonna rain, I can feel it... :)
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Post by: bk on October 20, 2004, 11:52:01 AM: The rain fell, and that abated. I may try to go out and do some things before it starts up again. Someone on another board (the filmscoremonthy board) was bashing Mr. Goddard Lieberson, based on his "bothching" of the cast album of Camelot. He basically condemned Mr. Lieberson's entire career based on this and a couple of other perceived "botches". I took this guy on and people think I'm a meanie, but I resent when some doofus trashes a guy's entire career and body of work based on a few albums and something he read in Ken Mandelbaum's book. The fact was that Mr. Lieberson was a pioneer and a visionary, and while one may not agree with all the decisions he made, he was the producer of those albums and the fact is the majority of them sound brilliant, and would not exist if it weren't for him. I mean, this is the man who recorded The Most Happy Fella in its entirety at a time when that was unheard of. This is the man who recorded Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf and other plays when no major label had done so for years and years. This is a man who, with limited technology, made some of the best-sounding albums ever. I've heard many recordings of Gypsy, many of which are much more complete than Mr. Lieberson's, but I can tell you that none of them, despite all the technology in the world, are a patch on the butt cheeks of the OBC, which may just be the best-sounding cast album ever recorded. And then you add Bells Are Ringing, Li'l Abner, Bye Bye Birdie, Anyone Can Whistle (a score we've all come to know and love because Mr. Lieberson had the guts and the chutzpah to record what he knew was going to be a huge flop), and all those other marvelous albums he did and that, to my mind, adds up to a career that will never be equalled. All I ever tried to do in producing cast albums was to "recreate" that brilliant sound using today's technology. So, because Mr. Lieberson happened to leave off about ninety seconds of material that this guy wishes were on the album, he "botched" it. Those "bits" were apparently on the original London album with Mr. Laurence Harvey. My point was and is, it was a different time, and LPs could only be so long because of the technology of cutting them - forty-five minutes was pretty much it. Camelot, the OBC runs forty-six. The London album runs around the same. So, what do we have? In order to put the bits that this guy likes on the London album, they had to leave off other "bits". So, I told him there's probably some guy in England complaining about the bits the London album left off that are on the OBC. This kind of nitpicky stuff never ends with these Internet guys. They can't shut up about it and they are amongst the most hard-headed people ever put on earth. They turn it all around and the posting volleys become instead about me "attacking" such a nice poster. Uh uh. Sorry. To him I'm a "condescending know-it-all". Sorry. Not condescending, and I'm only a know-it-all when I actually know things and have expertise in them.
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Post by: elmore3003 on October 20, 2004, 12:00:09 PM: Quote from: George on October 20, 2004, 11:11:21 AM
Well, yes, he does. ;) BUT is Raoul supposed to be that young as well? I don't think so. And I don't think that the Christine is supposed to be much older than she really is. From the tiny clips that I've seen, she doesn't look any older than that.

Well, the Lloyd Webber POTO is closer to the Leroux novel than any version since Lon Chaney's, but Christine in the novel isn't a ballet rat as she is in POTO; a stupid idea since most of the ballet girls in the 19th Century Paris Opera were aiming more to become prima ballerinas and mistresses of the rich Jockey Club members than learning vocal technique. I suspect that Christine became a ballet girl to justify the presence ofMme Giry and the ballet rats, who are quite prominent in the novel, because I'd guess a lot of the audience seeing POTO didn't know a thing about French opera and the Paris Opera convention about a ballet being in every production.

It's clear in the novel that Christine and Raoul had an adolescent infatuation. He ran into the ocean to retrieve a scarf for her, so there is some proximity in age in the book.
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Post by: Matt H. on October 20, 2004, 12:12:19 PM: I have spent a lovely part of the afternoon watching the DVD of MY FAVORITE YEAR. Hadn't watched it in years and now won't have to take out another laserdisc ever again since the DVD is sharper and more colorful than the laser ever thought about being. What a charming film!
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Post by: MBarnum on October 20, 2004, 12:13:03 PM: Hmmm...I will try this again.

My BK question is: As you are a fan of Ms. Astrud Gilberto, what are your favorite songs that she sings? I love her signature number THE GIRL FROM IPANEMA, and I really love WHEN THE CRICKETS SING.
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Post by: elmore3003 on October 20, 2004, 12:13:41 PM: As a fan of the EMI London cast album of CAMELOT with Laurence Harvey and Elizabeth Larner and as the owner of the British vocal score, I will rush to your support, Dear Friend BK. I'd vote for Liebersen's SOUND OF MUSIC with Mary Martin as the best sounding cast album, and I've loved the OBC CAMELOT recording, with its glorious color foldout, since I bought it as a high school senior.

The London production with Harvey was Lerner's second attempt to fix the show, the film being the third, and the British production incorporated and published in its score the two songs cut from Broadway: "Fie on Goodness" and "Take Me to the Fair." Because the British production employed Robert Helpmann as choreographer (it was not a duplication of the Broadway show as most American musicals were in London), it had a new overture and all new dance music. Because EMI and Norman Newell, I beleive, was the producer and since neither was affiliated with Columbia Records or CBS, they had their own option of what to record. The Britsh cast of NO NO NANETTE, being on Sony and therefore a CBS affiliate, uses the same cuts and changes that Liebersen made in the OBC. I think the same is true of BYE BYE BIRDIE.

I do wish the British CAMELOT were released on CD, but I also wish that we'd discover that the OBC CAMELOT tapes in the Columbia vaults have missing materials like "The Persuasion" for M'el Dowd and Roddy McDowell or "The Jousts," which is nearly complete on the London recording.

Dear Friend BK, I don't know what site had this buffoon's comments about the mangled CAMELOT OBC, but he's clearly not just a moron but an uneducated one.
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Post by: Matt H. on October 20, 2004, 12:14:51 PM: I haven't read the mutterings of the idiot who was complaining about the OCR of CAMELOT, but I think it still sounds super smashing (I like it better than GYPSY record-wise), and I've mentioned here before that the original gatefold record jacket was, to my eyes, the richest, most "royal" OCR I ever bought.
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Post by: George on October 20, 2004, 12:17:32 PM: Burgers? In general: a bit of mayo (almost a Secret Garden reference), pickle, lots of onions, ketchup, lettuce...the usual stuff. Burger places in and around Olympia that I like are Red Robin (chain), Norma's, Eagan's, The American Grill, Dick's Drive-In (only in Seattle, but worth the drive!). In other words, I like burgers. I've even had beefalo and buffalo burgers. Not bad at all. And Boca burgers are swell, too!
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Post by: elmore3003 on October 20, 2004, 12:20:00 PM: Thanks to Goddard Lieberson, we also have the great original cast of CANDIDE.
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Post by: Matthew on October 20, 2004, 12:38:55 PM: Thanks for the "Bit of Mayo" groan, George. I'll pass that along to the kid playing "Archibald" at our run-through this eve. ACK - our first complete run-through, the show sounds fabulous, I hope the orchestra can rise to the occasion when we meet for the first time on Saturday. It's a work out for those keyboards!!!
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Jane on October 20, 2004, 12:39:38 PM: Should my question to George last night have been directed to Matt H? Sorry-I had a memory lapse. :-[

I tried posting GOOD TEST VIBES to Michael Shayne last night but lost my connection. I hope the tests went well today.

MBarnum I have never had a cat blow up like a balloon after fluids. ;D But then I have never used them on a long term basis before so it is a possibility. I could feel little bubbles forming on each side of the site. I won’t give more detail than that. ;)

Thank you Dan (the Man). “Nurse Jane” is lucky because she will have Keith assisting. :D
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: S. Woody White on October 20, 2004, 12:43:59 PM: Quote from: Emily on October 20, 2004, 10:31:08 AM
I watched the PBS broadway thing.

I loved it but my parents and younger sister - all of whom stuck with it for a good amount of time - eventually gave up. They all complained that it seemed more like "Intro. to Early 20th Century History" (which they claim to be aware of to a good degree) and less like "Intro. to Early 20th Century Musical Theatre". In other words, more musicals and less "at the same time this or that was going on".

Meh... I enjoyed it all the same - and especially the stuff on Fanny Brice (who I know very little about!)
Huh? Say what?

They wanted the entertainment that people enjoyed to be totally divorced from the people it was written for?

Talk about revisionist history, this is the attitude that fosters that abomination. This is the attitude that says that only what is happening now matters, so if something isn't politically correct now then that means that it was bad back when. And yes, we've had that happen to a revival not so terribly long ago, when Show Boat had picket lines in front of the theater, protesting the portrayal of blacks and segregation.

DR Emily, tell your parents to grow up! >:(
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: bk on October 20, 2004, 12:45:38 PM: Quote from: MBarnum on October 20, 2004, 12:13:03 PM
Hmmm...I will try this again.

My BK question is: As you are a fan of Ms. Astrud Gilberto, what are your favorite songs that she sings? I love her signature number THE GIRL FROM IPANEMA, and I really love WHEN THE CRICKETS SING.

Oops (spoo, spelled backwards), sorry. I love everything she sings. I just heard her do a great rendition of Here's That Rainy Day, as a matter of fact. I also love Shadow of your Smile, The Gentle Rain, and Funny World, all from The Shadow of Your Smile album. And her entire Windy album is spectacularly good. There is a reason I'm on this kick that has to do specifically with the Windy album, and I'll reveal that reason soon.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: bk on October 20, 2004, 12:48:28 PM: elmore and anyone else who is interested:

the site in question is filmscoremonthly.com. Go to "message board" then "general discussions" then the "camelot" thread.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Jane on October 20, 2004, 12:48:38 PM: Quote from: Stuart on October 20, 2004, 07:07:15 AM

DR Jane: I think Rachael Ray is almost as divoon as Alton Brown. She is just so bubbly, and exudes personality. Do try to be at whichever restaurants she is featuring. She seems to be delightful.

:-[ ;D I had already forgotten who Rachael Ray is. Until I got to restaurants I was very confused as to why you were telling me this information. ;D
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Post by: S. Woody White on October 20, 2004, 12:54:34 PM: Quote from: bk on October 20, 2004, 11:52:01 AM
...To him I'm a "condescending know-it-all". Sorry. Not condescending, and I'm only a know-it-all when I actually know things and have expertise in them.
We need a new word, perhaps "con-ascending", for those who try to elevate others through education.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: S. Woody White on October 20, 2004, 12:58:41 PM: Quote from: elmore3003 on October 20, 2004, 12:00:09 PM
...I'd guess a lot of the audience seeing POTO didn't know a thing about French opera and the Paris Opera convention about a ballet being in every production.
This sounds a lot like the same convention showing up in a lot of American musicals, during the 1940s.

Prototypical American casting for Mme. Giry: Agnes DeMille?
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Jane on October 20, 2004, 01:02:26 PM: Bruce why would you save a book you disliked so much, especially when you have to keep it in the garage? ???
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Post by: Matt H. on October 20, 2004, 01:03:13 PM: Quote from: Jane on October 20, 2004, 12:39:38 PM
Should my question to George last night have been directed to Matt H? Sorry-I had a memory lapse. :-[

DR Jane: What was the question? Sorry, but I guess I read last night's posts so hurriedly then and this morning, I don't remember any question to DR George or anyone else.

And I can't go back right now and look for it. I've got to get ready to go off to the theater for SOMETHING'S AFOOT.
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Post by: S. Woody White on October 20, 2004, 01:03:35 PM: Quote from: Jane on October 20, 2004, 12:39:38 PM
MBarnum I have never had a cat blow up like a balloon after fluids. ;D
Did anyone else reading this think of Shrek and Fiona blowing up the frog and snake when reading this sentence?

::)
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Post by: bk on October 20, 2004, 01:05:32 PM: I only saved it and many others that I don't have a special affinity for because you can't get more than a buck or two if you sell them, and it's not worth it to me.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Jane on October 20, 2004, 01:06:44 PM: As a child, and a teen, rainy days in L.A. always made me smile. :) I loved to play in the rain. Sometimes my father would come home and find me jumping through the puddles and send me inside. In the front door I went, through the kitchen and out the back door. Living on the east coast cured me of playing in the rain. ;D

It doesn’t rain as much in Ashland as it does in most of Oregon. The last three days I have been able to plan my walks during breaks from the rain. Oh that reminds me. Echo and I went to the meeting place of our Wednesday morning hiking group and we were the only ones there. In six years that has never happened. We had a fun time without them so all was well.

Charles did you find a raincoat for Tewkes?
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Post by: Jane on October 20, 2004, 01:12:52 PM: Bruce you could donate the books to the library or other charity and get a tax right off. You must be worse at saving stuff than I am, but then I have Keith to make me clean junk out once in awhile. Speaking of cleaning junk out, that is what I should be doing right now.

No one has mentioned ANDROMEDA STRAIN. The movie was almost identical to the book. Also there are a couple of adaptations of Jane Austin books which are wonderful.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: elmore3003 on October 20, 2004, 01:13:56 PM: Quote from: bk on October 20, 2004, 12:48:28 PM
elmore and anyone else who is interested:

the site in question is filmscoremonthly.com. Go to "message board" then "general discussions" then the "camelot" thread.

Mr Paddon is Dead Meat! Wow!!

I've been watching the A&E/BBC VANITY FAIR, written by the screenwriter for the Colin Firth PRIDE AND PREJUDICE. Miss Sharp is quite the conniving vixen and does Mr Thackeray proud. Michelle Dotrice, of MARY POPPINS, plays Amelia's mothet.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: S. Woody White on October 20, 2004, 01:14:58 PM: Quote from: bk on October 20, 2004, 01:05:32 PM
I only saved it and many others that I don't have a special affinity for because you can't get more than a buck or two if you sell them, and it's not worth it to me.
You could always donate them to a library, but given your reaction to the book, perhaps not. You've never struck me as a cruel sort.

(After posting, read Janes post. Like minds?)
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Sandra on October 20, 2004, 01:18:21 PM: Burger King has a pretty nice veggie burger. But usually I just order a hamburger without the meat. For some reason, your average fast-food-order-taker has a real problem with that concept, but there you go. Usually when we do fast food, I prefer Del Taco because they have a nice veggie burrito, and the fact that they have Cherry Coke doesn't hurt.

We got to play with clay in my Children's Literature class this morning and I made a bird for my mom. He's a little lopsided and he doesn't have a face per se, but he's cute nonetheless (three words for the price of one).
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: S. Woody White on October 20, 2004, 01:26:53 PM: Quote from: elmore3003 on October 20, 2004, 01:13:56 PM
Mr Paddon is Dead Meat! Wow!!

I've been watching the A&E/BBC VANITY FAIR, written by the screenwriter for the Colin Firth PRIDE AND PREJUDICE. Miss Sharp is quite the conniving vixen and does Mr Thackeray proud. Michelle Dotrice, of MARY POPPINS, plays Amelia's mothet.
Close. Michelle Dotrice is KAREN Dotrice's sister. Karen played Jane in Mary Poppins. Their father is Roy Dotrice, also an actor of note, including Mozart's father in the film Amadeus and "Father" in the TV series Beauty and the Beast.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Charles Pogue on October 20, 2004, 01:29:25 PM: Jane, yes, we have an old yellow rain slicker of Hotspurs that even has an attached rain cap to it. We went out in it last night.

At a visit to the vet's, today we found out that Tewkes is an old dog, 8 or older. Has a heart murmur. But despite these misrepresentations by the adoption place, we're becoming attached to the li'l critter and will have for as long as he's here.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Jane on October 20, 2004, 01:31:24 PM: Quote from: Sandra on October 20, 2004, 01:18:21 PM

We got to play with clay in my Children's Literature class this morning and I made a bird for my mom. He's a little lopsided and he doesn't have a face per se, but he's cute nonetheless (three words for the price of one).

That is so sweet.

I believe Burger King sells a Garden Burger. When we are traveling and I'm desparate I have had it. I try to eat the burger and leave most of the bread.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: bk on October 20, 2004, 01:35:27 PM: I was just going to go out to my mail place but the rain was coming down so hard I decided to stay inside and dry. Here's a view from my front door.
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Post by: bk on October 20, 2004, 01:36:21 PM: Another image, showing the big puddles in the front yard.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Jane on October 20, 2004, 01:37:39 PM: Charles, I’m glad the rain coat fit. I could be mistaken, but if he has always had the heart murmur than it might not be a serious problem. Lucky for Tewkes he has a good home now. :)

Matt H did you read the article on LOST in TV Guide. Keith said it was interesting. I still haven’t read it yet but will.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: elmore3003 on October 20, 2004, 01:37:56 PM: Quote from: S. Woody White on October 20, 2004, 01:26:53 PM
Close. Michelle Dotrice is KAREN Dotrice's sister. Karen played Jane in Mary Poppins. Their father is Roy Dotrice, also an actor of note, including Mozart's father in the film Amadeus and "Father" in the TV series Beauty and the Beast.

Well, mercy me, you're right! I think Michele is also in JOSEPH ANDREWS with Peter Firth. I last saw Mr Roy Dotrice, I recall, in HAY FEVER with Rosemary Harris.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Jane on October 20, 2004, 01:38:55 PM: Nice photo's Bruce. I was sorry I didn't have my camera today as the fall leaves were beautiful.
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Post by: bk on October 20, 2004, 01:39:31 PM: The view from inside the house looking to the yard.
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on October 20, 2004, 01:39:37 PM: DR Pogue: How old did the adoption place tell you he was?

I used to volunteer at a couple of shelters -- most dogs are listed as 2 or 3. No dog is ever listed as over 5. They wouldn't get adopted if anyone thought they were older than that. We got one of those. Misty was listed as 5 and was at least 8, the vet said. We had her two expensive years.

DR Sandra likes to go to the drive-through window at Wendy's and hear me order a cheeseburger, hold the cheese, hold the burger. And I can't wait for her to give me the bird this afternoon.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: bk on October 20, 2004, 01:40:17 PM: The rain just stopped - just like that. And the sun is trying to peek out. That's LA.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on October 20, 2004, 01:40:52 PM: Quote from: Matt H. on October 20, 2004, 12:12:19 PM
I have spent a lovely part of the afternoon watching the DVD of MY FAVORITE YEAR. Hadn't watched it in years and now won't have to take out another laserdisc ever again since the DVD is sharper and more colorful than the laser ever thought about being. What a charming film!

I can watch (and have watched) MY FAVORITE YEAR again and again.

What are some of the movies that you never tire of, BK and DRs?

Two more for me are AUNTIE MAME and THE SOLID GOLD CADILLAC.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: elmore3003 on October 20, 2004, 01:42:03 PM: Bruce, great photos! It's chilly and damp here but not so romantic and misty.
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Post by: elmore3003 on October 20, 2004, 01:46:21 PM: Quote from: Dan-in-Toronto on October 20, 2004, 01:40:52 PM

What are some of the movies that you never tire of, BK and DRs?

I would love to see THE SOLID GOLD CADILLAC again, but I agree about AUNTIE MAME. I would add these as well:
TOM JONES
THE LADY KILLERS
KIND HEARTS AND CORONETS
THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING EARNEST
PRIDE & PREJUDICE (Colin Firth)
EMMA (Kate Beckinsale)
SENSE & SENSIBILITY
I like comedy a lot and these still make me laugh or smile broadly.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Matthew on October 20, 2004, 01:50:14 PM: BK - great pics. Doesn't everyone love the ran? I think one must....
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Post by: MBarnum on October 20, 2004, 01:59:19 PM: Quote from: bk on October 20, 2004, 12:45:38 PM
Oops (spoo, spelled backwards), sorry. I love everything she sings. I just heard her do a great rendition of Here's That Rainy Day, as a matter of fact. I also love Shadow of your Smile, The Gentle Rain, and Funny World, all from The Shadow of Your Smile album. And her entire Windy album is spectacularly good. There is a reason I'm on this kick that has to do specifically with the Windy album, and I'll reveal that reason soon.

Cool, I can't wait to find out what that is!
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Post by: MBarnum on October 20, 2004, 02:07:21 PM: DR Jane, ANDROMEDA STRAIN always grossed me out. Just an unpleasant movie...particularly the scene when they cut open some guys wrist and dried blood comes out!

Oh, little Karen Dotrice is one of my favorite child actresses! So good in 3 Lives of Thomasina!

Movies I never tire of:

Attack of the Puppet People

This is not a Test

Curse of the Cat People

oh, gosh there are too many to list I think.
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Post by: Jane on October 20, 2004, 02:09:08 PM: DRLaura, don’t they charge you for a cheeseburger if you order it that way? ;D

Bruce great shot-sure glad you got it before the rain stopped.
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Post by: Jane on October 20, 2004, 02:11:22 PM: MBarnum-guess you couldn't give your cat fluids. ;D

Did you read the book? Maybe you would have preferred the story without the visual effects.
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Post by: bk on October 20, 2004, 02:14:02 PM: Movies I can watch ad nauseum:

Chinatown, Rosemary's Baby, Sullivan's Travels, North by Northwest, Rear Window, The Court Jester, Eyes Without a Face, Sundays and Cybele, The Umbrellas of Cherbourg, The Young Girls of Rochefort - any of the above, over and over again.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: George on October 20, 2004, 02:30:55 PM: Quote from: Jane on October 20, 2004, 12:39:38 PM
Should my question to George last night have been directed to Matt H? Sorry-I had a memory lapse. :-[

Jane's question from last night was:
Quote
George did you see the article on LOST in TV Guide? I haven't read it yet but Keith says it is, surprisingly, good and I must read it.

I will watch or tape "Lost" tonight (I really like the show) but I don't get TV Guide. I go to tvguide.com. I tried going there last night after reading your question, but since I was at the house that I'm house-sitting and they have the slowest computer that I've experienced in quite a few years, I couldn't even get to tvguide.com at all. I went there today and HERE (http://www.tvguide.com/news/insider/041020a.asp) is an article about "Lost." It's probably the same one in the TV Guide print magazine. They've offered some interesting premises...premi? ;D
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on October 20, 2004, 02:57:36 PM: Here's a metaphor I didn't think of till today

Funny how love becomes a cold rainy day--
Funny, that rainy day is here.

(Johnny Burke, "Here's That Rainy Day")
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Post by: Charles Pogue on October 20, 2004, 03:25:23 PM: Hotspur, my yorkie had a heart murmur. He died just two months shy of his sixteenth birthday. I'm not too worried about it.
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Post by: Panni on October 20, 2004, 03:25:36 PM: Just caught up with the posts. Had a VERY long meeting and I'm tired.
I just turned down a friend from out of town who phoned to ask if he could crash on my couch tonight. Too tired for company in such a tiny place. Was that ungracious of me?
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Charles Pogue on October 20, 2004, 03:33:41 PM: Laura, the adoption place had told us between 2-3. My vet said they often fudge on the age. But it explains why Tewkes likes his sleep.

Movies I watch over and over again:

1) GUNGA DIN
2) ADVENTURES OF ROBIN HOOD
3) MALTESE FALCON
4) THOSE LIPS,THOSE EYES
5) THE QUIET MAN
6) HOW GREEN WAS MY VALLEY
7) SCARAMOUCHE
8) THE SEARCHERS
9) RIDE THE HIGH COUNTRY
10) SINGING IN THE RAIN
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Post by: Charles Pogue on October 20, 2004, 03:35:41 PM: How did that smilie get on THE SEARCHERS?

Panni, no..you weren't ungracious. Rather ungracious of your friend to call at the last minute with no warning and expect you to put them up. Be selfish; one is entitled to one's privacy.
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Post by: Panni on October 20, 2004, 03:37:01 PM: Thank you, FS Pogue.
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Post by: Panni on October 20, 2004, 03:38:11 PM: I thought I was witnessing a first! Pogue using a smilie.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on October 20, 2004, 03:44:15 PM: I got rid of the smilie!
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Post by: Jane on October 20, 2004, 03:47:29 PM: George I’m relieved my memory was functioning last night and you do watch LOST. :) I just should have included Matt H. :-[

Keith said that isn’t the entire article but it does include most of the interesting information. I still haven’t read it. I will read it some time tonight.
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Post by: Jane on October 20, 2004, 03:49:39 PM: Gosh, I missed the smile.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Charles Pogue on October 20, 2004, 03:59:11 PM: The one thing I hate about rain is that it brings ants into our house, my bathroom is now plagued with them.

Other things I hate. How surly, demanding, and slimy charities and magazines have become of late. We have a piece of mail from some charity up there that says "second request" , "a favor of a repy is requested". They send me a piece of unsolicited crap which goes straight into the trash and then spend more of their funds mailing me a second one so they can get all huffy about me not responding to the first one. Puhleeze!

And what's with magazines just automatically extending your subscription without asking and then billing you for it, hoping you won't notice and just pay or, if you don't, sending you notices like you're one step away from a collection agency coming after you. Shouldn't this kind of intimidation stuff be against the law?

I'm also tired of magazines that I already subscribe to cluttering up their pages with subscription cards. There were like nine in my Men's Health that came the other day. Guys, I subscribe already! Secondly, if I wasn't a subscriber, I wouldn't need nine forms to do so! What a waste of money!

I think the way to stop this subscription card influx is for everyone to take those no-stamp-needed post cards and fill them out with the publisher or editor's name and address and mail them in. when they start getting the clutter back at them, maybe they'll get the idea! Is the postage already paid on those cards or do they have to pay for them as they come in...? That would also pull them up short...and help the floundering post office.

But I feel like unsubscribing to every magazine I have...except THE WEEK. I let my PLAYBOY subscription finally lapse after about 20-odd years ( I started to subscribe in protest, when 7-11 banned them). I just don't relate to the shaved-twatted, plastic boob women that all look alike anymore. I've only been reading it for the articles and they aren't as good as they used to be. When they start having a video game section in the magazine, I know they're not longer catering to guys my age or Hef's age.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: bk on October 20, 2004, 04:03:55 PM: How could I forget Ride the High Country. Another I can watch over and over again.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: TCB on October 20, 2004, 04:05:18 PM: Quote from: Panni on October 20, 2004, 03:25:36 PM
Just caught up with the posts. Had a VERY long meeting and I'm tired.
I just turned down a friend from out of town who phoned to ask if he could crash on my couch tonight. Too tired for company in such a tiny place. Was that ungracious of me?

Well if it was elmore3003, then yes it was.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: George on October 20, 2004, 04:08:55 PM: DR Pogue, if I get mail that I know is unsolicited, I write "Refused--Return to sender" on it and send it back. The theory being that they'll get the hint and take me off of their list(s). I do it every time. If I get it again, they'll pay to get it back again.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: S. Woody White on October 20, 2004, 05:03:03 PM: Quote from: Charles Pogue on October 20, 2004, 01:29:25 PM
At a visit to the vet's, today we found out that Tewkes is an old dog, 8 or older. Has a heart murmur. But despite these misrepresentations by the adoption place, we're becoming attached to the li'l critter and will have for as long as he's here.
Marty was just a pup when we brought him home from the pound. Der B took him to the vet the next day, while I was at work. "Oh, you aren't going to want this dog, he has a heart murmur and won't last more than five years."

Der Brucer already knew this was out of the question. Good thing, too, since Marty has been with us for eight or nine years already.

He does have spells, if he's been running around and overexerting himself. The blood simply doesn't get to his brain fast enough, and he glazes over. Then, after a minute or two, he gets back up, recovery complete, and is back to his regular self. If der B or I are with him at the time, we stop and comfort him while he's out of it, and we get a nice face washing for our troubles.

I sometimes wonder about vets.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Panni on October 20, 2004, 05:03:17 PM: Not Elmore, TCB. he's holding out for a guestroom - not a couch.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: S. Woody White on October 20, 2004, 05:08:05 PM: Quote from: DearReaderLaura on October 20, 2004, 01:39:37 PM
DR Sandra...I can't wait for her to give me the bird this afternoon.
Gestures like that! I thought DR Sandra was a nice girl!

;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Charles Pogue on October 20, 2004, 05:13:48 PM: Woody, the vet wasn't too worried about the heart murmur...as he was the vet for Hotspur...He just said will have to occasionally monitor it and maybe take an x-ray at some point to have a look at his heart. Spur had a very big heart, as I remember. Whether Tewkes lives one year or 10, we're in. We picked him, he's ours, and he's a sweet old guy.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Panni on October 20, 2004, 05:16:06 PM: There is a photo in today's paper of Efrem Zimbalist Jr - who is now in his 80's. Talk about aging well! He looks like the same handsome actor we knew on 77 Sunset Strip - with a white wig and mustache.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Panni on October 20, 2004, 05:18:28 PM: Quote from: Charles Pogue on October 20, 2004, 05:13:48 PM
Whether Tewkes lives one year or 10, we're in. We picked him, he's ours, and he's a sweet old guy.

I wish all pet owners followed your wonderful philosophy.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Danise on October 20, 2004, 05:20:03 PM: Evening all.

I like my hamburgers with lettuce, onion and tomato with mayo.

I was going to wait until tomorrow and then ask Bruce to tell the story of how the board came to be and then ask everyone here how they got here but you jumped the gun on me. I wanted to ask how every one “met”—Did you know one another off of the board first?
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Jay on October 20, 2004, 05:53:03 PM: Quote from: Panni on October 20, 2004, 05:16:06 PM
There is a photo in today's paper of Efrem Zimbalist Jr - who is now in his 80's. Talk about aging well! He looks like the same handsome actor we knew on 77 Sunset Strip - with a white wig and mustache.

The picture is from a production of Mr. Tennessee Williams' The Night of the Iguana, which I shall be seeing a week from this Saturday. Mr. Zimbalist's daughter, Stephanie, also appears in the production.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: TCB on October 20, 2004, 05:53:17 PM: Hmm, movies I could watch again and again:

THE TIME MACHINE
TIME AFTER TIME
THE UNSINKABLE MOLLY BROWN
Hitchcock's SABOTEUR
DAMN YANKEES
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Jay on October 20, 2004, 06:04:21 PM: Quote from: Charles Pogue on October 20, 2004, 05:13:48 PM
We picked him, he's ours, and he's a sweet old guy.

Dear Dog Roller, who turns 13 1/2 on Saturday, suffers from a thyroid condition, epilepsy, a heart murmur and rather unsightly skin lesions, yet he keeps going and going. He sleeps quite a bit, but when he's awake, he can still be rather peppy. Although he had only been doggie-door trained all his life, now that he can no longer negotiate the doggie door due to lack of muscular coordination, he's learned to be house trained. He has a hearty appetite and continues to crave affection. I'm not sure how well he'd pull through another "episode," but so long as he is not suffering, he's safe in the bosom of our "family."
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Jay on October 20, 2004, 06:11:21 PM: For the first time in days, I see blue skies over Pasadena. (Oh. An Irving Berlin reference.)
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Michael on October 20, 2004, 06:18:34 PM: Just finished reading the posting up to October 11. Did not realize I had been gone for so long.

DR MatT: London Is London can also be found in Bricusses version of Sherlock Holmes with additional lyrics.

I have to beg off for the rest of the night has the pains are starting to become uncomfortable.

Once I have caught up with everything I will let everyone know what happened.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Jane on October 20, 2004, 06:35:36 PM: Michael, it is good to have you back.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Panni on October 20, 2004, 07:09:23 PM: Welcome back, Michael Shayne! Feel better!
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Panni on October 20, 2004, 07:10:16 PM: Thank you for posting the Zimbalist pic, Jay.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Jane on October 20, 2004, 07:29:44 PM: Jay, yes-thank you. It is nice father and daughter are working together.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Matt H. on October 20, 2004, 08:04:20 PM: Quote from: Jane on October 20, 2004, 01:37:39 PM

Matt H did you read the article on LOST in TV Guide. Keith said it was interesting. I still haven’t read it yet but will.

No, not yet. Actually, I was afraid there would be spoilers in the article, and I'm having so much fun with the show that I'd want to kill anyone who gave even an inkling what's going to happen.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Matt H. on October 20, 2004, 08:08:57 PM: Movies I can and do watch over and over:

all THE THIN MAN series

all the MISS MARPLE series (with Margaret Rutherford)

EVIL UNDER THE SUN

ALL ABOUT EVE

SUNSET BOULEVARD

EASTER PARADE

DIE HARD

MISSION IMPOSSIBLE

THE WIZARD OF OZ (particularly the laserdisc to get John Fricke's superb running commentary.)

many others that just aren't popping in my head at the moment.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Matt H. on October 20, 2004, 08:11:09 PM: Quote from: Michael Shayne on October 20, 2004, 06:18:34 PM

DR MatT: London Is London can also be found in Bricusses version of Sherlock Holmes with additional lyrics.

Yes, DR Michael, I know that very well. SHERLOCK HOLMES is not a great score, but that's a memorable song.

Feel better!!!
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Matt H. on October 20, 2004, 08:13:08 PM: Thought of some more that I constantly rerun:

THE THIRD MAN

THE MALTESE FALCON

IT'S ALWAYS FAIR WEATHER
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Dan (the Man) on October 20, 2004, 09:04:56 PM: Wow! The Boston Red Sox make an unprecedented comeback to win the pennant against the Yankees!

I'm not one of those people who have conniptions whenever NY wins, but this still fills me with joy. It give me hope for the upcoming election!
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Dan (the Man) on October 20, 2004, 09:44:08 PM: Quote from: Charles Pogue on October 20, 2004, 03:59:11 PM
Other things I hate. How surly, demanding, and slimy charities and magazines have become of late. We have a piece of mail from some charity up there that says "second request" , "a favor of a repy is requested". They send me a piece of unsolicited crap which goes straight into the trash and then spend more of their funds mailing me a second one so they can get all huffy about me not responding to the first one. Puhleeze!

Today I received in the mail a "FINAL NOTICE" from Entertainment Weekly. It reads: "This is the last correspondence we will send you regarding your overdue renewal instructions. We have contacted you repeatedly about resuming your service and have not received a response."

This is how they think they're going to get me to resubscribe?

I think I'm going to try to have some fun with this. I'll write them back with some nonsense (a la Jerry Seinfeld's Letters From A Nut). I'll write some long, rambling and detailed explanation about why I haven't been able to get around to re-ordering Entertainment Weekly. I'm not sure what the story will involve yet, but I think a coma should be included. Anyone have some ideas?
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Dan (the Man) on October 20, 2004, 09:52:52 PM: I guess they're giving it away for free in Tarnation tonight.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Dan (the Man) on October 20, 2004, 10:03:33 PM: Tonight I schlepped over to Target to get more Halloween candy and to just browse around. THey have a small section at the front of the store filled with $1.00 priced items that are trick-or-treats alternatives--things like notebooks, pens and pencils, paddle balls, etc. What caught my eye were a number of DVDs that each contained two horror movies and a cartoon. I picked up three. One contains Nosferatu and Lon Chaney's POTO, the second has Chaney's Hunchback of Notre Dame and The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari. I'm not sure of what the first movie is on the third--something like Buckets of Blood--the second feature is The Screaming Skull. (The only reason I bought this one is that the cartoon feature looks like it's a puppetoon Hansel and Gretel that I sort of remember from when I was a wee one. And yes, each DVD was only $1.00.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Dan (the Man) on October 20, 2004, 10:10:50 PM: Going for a frenzy here.

Some movies I can watch over and over:

The Quiet Man
Moonstruck
Stage Door
Dr. Zhivago
Singing In The Rain
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Dan (the Man) on October 20, 2004, 10:21:20 PM: Also at Target I spotted the second SCTV set but, man, it's $54! And that's the first week sale price. I'm putting this on my Christmas List and letting Santa get it for me.

I also read that the second season of Northern Exposure is coming out next month, but that it's also priced at over $50 and it contains only seven episodes. Evidently, they have a lot of licensing fees to pay to many different artists for the music that was played on the show. I wonder how much the sets are going to cost once they begin encompassing entire 22 episode seasons.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Dan (the Man) on October 20, 2004, 10:22:35 PM: And that, ladies and gentlemen, concludes Dan (the Man)'s frenzy portion of the evening.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: bk on October 20, 2004, 10:42:36 PM: Had a lovely meal with the Poguester. I tried something new, which our waitress thought I'd like, the scampi in cream sauce over linguini. It was way too "fishy" tasting and smelling for me, and for one of the only times in my life I sent it back and got the meat loaf, which was, as always, excellent.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Charles Pogue on October 20, 2004, 10:57:38 PM: Dan, your description of Entertainment Weekly attempts to get you to re-subscribe is exactly what I'm talking. Intimidation and indignation at your potential customer is always an effective way to procure business. We had a simply experience with Time. I no longer subscribe to Time.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Charles Pogue on October 20, 2004, 11:08:47 PM: Dan, I'll be going over to get my new SCTV box at Target. Just saw it at Amoeba for $79. I was almost ready to leave when I thought I'd go back and do one more pass at the $4.99 close out bin. I glanced down at the overflow bins below the regular bins. There in the front one of the stacks was...NAKED SPACE by our own Mr. Kimmel! I can't wait! I picked it up along with The boxed set of KEEN EDDIE, a series I liked but could never figure out when it was on, so missed most of it. Also snared Lugosi's Dracula which also has the Spanish Dracula on it which was filmed on the same sets as Lugosi's Dracula, but at night after Lugosi and cast went home. It's reputed to be better than Lugosi's but I've never seen it. I also got CURSE OF THE DEMON with the uncut, longer British version on it known as THE NIGHT OF THE DEMON. I love Curse, so I'm looking forward to this!

Dinner was a lark and Mr. Kimmel brought the lovely Julianna Hanson with him who was a delight! We laughed and laughed and ate and ate!
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: DearReaderLaura on October 20, 2004, 11:17:57 PM: Good evening, all. DR Sandra gave me the bird, which by my best guess is a clay pigeon. It is lovely.

Re unsolicited mail: It has been a year (yesterday) since my mom died, and I still get several pieces of junk mail weekly. Some I throw out; some I email to remove from the mailing list. At first I would write "She is deceased. Please remove from your mailing list." As time has gone on and the pieces from various mailers keep coming, I have become a bit more blunt. My favorite is the AARP piece which came last week. On the return piece, several options were listed, something on the line of " I am still working; I work part time; I am retired...." I wrote in "I am dead" and sent it back to them.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: bk on October 20, 2004, 11:18:00 PM: Yes, Juliana called me around five o'clock and had just taken her singing lesson around the corner from me, and asked me if she could hang until after rush hour. I was finished with my writing for the day and said sure, then told her I had to leave at sixish to have dinner and she asked if she could tag along and the rest, as they say, is history. I bought a Sunset+Vine cap after dinner. Pogue and Juliana got along like a house afire.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Panni on October 20, 2004, 11:24:07 PM: Quote from: DearReaderLaura on October 20, 2004, 11:17:57 PM
My favorite is the AARP piece which came last week. On the return piece, several options were listed, something on the line of " I am still working; I work part time; I am retired...." I wrote in "I am dead" and sent it back to them.

I hope it's not disrespectful to your departed mother, but I laughed out loud at that.

Which reminds me... I was told just yesterday that Bela Lugosi used to live on my street.
Title: Re:HERE'S THAT RAINY DAY
Post by: Panni on October 20, 2004, 11:54:43 PM: And one for midnight Mahler.