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Title: CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: bk on November 16, 2004, 12:11:11 AM
Well, you've read the notes, the notes were clear as a bell, clean as a whistle, and now it is time for you to post until the bells and whistle cows come home.
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: Charles Pogue on November 16, 2004, 12:25:31 AM
When you come from a family of four kids, you do not go to big roadshow movies; you wait till they hit the local bijou or the drive-in.  Probably the first reserved seating thing I did was the American Film Theatre stuff that came out in the early seventies.  I think I was in Odessa, Texas, at the the time, plying my trade as an actor at the Globe of the Great Southwest
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Post by: bk on November 16, 2004, 12:30:00 AM
I honestly can't remember which was the first roadshow reserved seat film I went to.  Those who've read the Kritzer books know I was obsessed with them.  I have to believe it was either Seven Wonders of the World in Cinerama (in Benjamin Kritzer), or Ben-Hur or Scent of Mystery (in Smell-o-Vision) - those all would have been in 1959 (I saw Seven Wonders on a second go-round at the Warner Cinerama).  
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Post by: Tomovoz on November 16, 2004, 12:42:51 AM
Not a concept familiar to us in the Land Of Oz.
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Post by: S. Woody White on November 16, 2004, 01:15:42 AM
Roadshow movies weren't high on my parent's list of things to do, either.  Come to think of it, neither was going to movies, period.  It was next to impossible to get Dad to agree to seeing any movie, and then he usually wanted to save the cash and go to a drive-in instead.

For example, there was one time when my sister's girlfriends all were getting together to see some film at a local theater.  It was one of those cheap Bikini movies, in the middle of a scorcher summer.  Even to me, it was obvious that what my sister wanted was to get together with her pals in a nice cool "refrigerated" theater.  Dad let the obvious slip right past his head.  No, if she was going to see a movie, it would be with her family.  We ended up seeing some second-level Disney live-action film at, you guessed it, the drive-in.

The only time Dad sprung for roadshow tix was a double-header of The Sound of Music and Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines, Or How I Flew From London to Paris in 25 Hours 11 Minutes.  But I've told that story before, and I don't really feel like repeating myself this time.
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Post by: George on November 16, 2004, 01:51:35 AM
I've never been to a roadshow picture.  They were before my time. :-\ Unless you count the Warren Miller (http://www.warrenmiller.com/wmiller/) films that tour about...but I don't think that those really count. ::)
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Post by: S. Woody White on November 16, 2004, 02:59:27 AM
I've never been to a roadshow picture.  They were before my time. :-\
Oh, that's it, make the rest of us feel ancient!   ::)








 ;)
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on November 16, 2004, 05:22:19 AM
My father was a major movie fan, and loved taking us downtown on a Saturday afternoon. The earliest three roadshow movies I remember are The Ten Commandments (no, DR Stuart; this was the talkie), Oklahoma, and Around the World In Eighty Days - all around the same time. Of the three, Around the World - with its catchy theme song, terrific adventure, huge screen, funny bits, and exotic cast (i.e., Shirley MacLaine) and locales, made the greatest impression. I didn't want it to end.
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Post by: elmore3003 on November 16, 2004, 05:43:25 AM
Good morning, all!  I went to bed early last night, because my mind insisted I was tired even if my body refused to give up the ghost.  And speaking of ghosts, another dream about the ghostly activities in the house where I grew up.  I dreamed I was scoring a medley from THE ARCADIANS! (why?) working on a card table late at night in my Mother's kitchen, fighting with two pencils, my siamese cat, and the damned ghost which kept throwing open the door leading to the basement, which was quite a haunted area of the house, along with the footsteps in the attic.  I don't recall much of the dream now, just an increasing fear that at some point I'd have to confront whatever was walking up the basement stairs and throwing open the door.   I went to securely fasten the door, and woke up in a state of terror.  I had to turn on the lights for a few minutes.  You'd think after forty years that house wouldn't frighten me.

Cinerama, The Seven Wonders of the World, waqs the first roadshow film.  My Father had a friend in the construction business who lived in Cincinnati, so my brother Tom, my parents, and I met my Father's friend and his wife, who taught school, for dinner, and we all went to see the film.  I remember nothing about the film but the roller coaster and that I loved it.
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: Jennifer on November 16, 2004, 05:51:05 AM
DR Emily, I know what you mean about the exchange rate.  I almost dropped to the floor when the $25 US charge was only $30.  Yeah!!!
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Post by: Jennifer on November 16, 2004, 05:52:28 AM
I'm not familiar with the term "roadshow picture" either.  Can someone give more details than in the notes.
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Post by: Stuart on November 16, 2004, 06:14:47 AM
The earliest three roadshow movies I remember are The Ten Commandments (no, DR Stuart; this was the talkie).

DR DiT, I have often denied you were in OUR AMERICAN COUSIN the night Lincoln was shot.  (or however that line goes...)

Brooklyn was not a huge roadshow marketplace.  The only time I vaguely recall being taken to a movie with reserved seats is when we went to Radio City for the Christmas show...on Christmas Eve.  (A long past tradition for NYC area Jews).  I know that's when we saw the film version of 1776.  We also used to go to the theatre on Christmas Eve...payback, I suppose, for the Christians who went to the theatre on Yom Kippur.

I also vaguely, VAGUELY recall being taken to see WEST SIDE STORY somewhere in Brooklyn....must have been a re-release somewhere aroung '68 or '69.... For some reason I sort of recall it having reserved seats.  Perhaps DB Jay remembers this better than I.  (Jay, I also vaguely, VAGUELY remember it either being near Aunt Mary's apartment, or she was with us....)
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on November 16, 2004, 06:19:49 AM
I think the only roadshow picture I ever saw was A Boy Named Charlie Brown.  And I'm only guessing that it was a roadshow movie because we had to go to Philly to see it, there was a big promotion for it in conjunction with a local department store, and there was a souvenir book (it was also shown at a huge screen movie house, but I rememeber that all the screens were huge back then.)

I also remember that it was the first time that I was disappointed in a movie.  I was a total Peanuts fan and I loved the TV specials.  But to me, the big screen treatment was sort of overblown, bland and silly.  I think the only part I liked was the song about spelling--"I Before E" or something like that.
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Post by: Jrand74 on November 16, 2004, 06:32:46 AM
My first roadshow picture was THE BROTHERS GRIMM - and boy that screen was B I G!  We got little paper programs (wish I still had mine, but my sister cut it up for paper dolls one day when I was at school) - most of all I liked the sound which came from everywhere in the theatre.  I turned around a couple of times to see what was behind me!
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Post by: Jrand74 on November 16, 2004, 06:47:19 AM
Here is your Allison Hayes Picture of the Week!  :o

She is accepting a light from Mr Dennis O'Keefe in CHICAGO SYNDICATE, and wearing another dress that is defying the law of gravity.
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: Jrand74 on November 16, 2004, 06:49:34 AM
Thanks to MATTH who reminded me of the deepdiscountDVD special offer this month, I got the Deanna Durbin collection for $15.59 and OLIVER! and the Criterion EYES WITHOUT A FACE for $17.16 each.  You can only use the Discount code once, so buy everything you want at the same time.  Expires on November 20!
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Post by: Ginny on November 16, 2004, 06:50:41 AM
In late '50s, early '60s Detroit (where I grew up), Music Hall  www.musichall.org (http://www.musichall.org) was the Cinerama theatre.  My earliest memory of going there was with family friends to see Windjammer.  The dad in the family was an OB/GYN and I remember that, after the movie, the mom, their kids, and I sat in the car in the parking lot of Harper Hospital for a LONG time.  Maybe he was delivering a baby...

My most vivid recollection of going there, though, was November 24, 1963, two days after JFK's assassination.  We'd had tickets forever for How the West was Won and the adults decided that we'd go.  The mood was pretty grim, as I remember.

Other roadshow movies in Detroit:  The Sound of Music and My Fair Lady.  Also, after I moved to Ohio, the second season of American Film Theatre, which included Jacques Brel is Alive and Well and Living in Paris.

Oh, my, this site does make one think of things long-forgotten!
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: Matt H. on November 16, 2004, 07:00:00 AM
Like BK, my first roadshow was either a Cinerama picture (I'm guessing CINERAMA HOLIDAY?) or BEN-HUR; I can't remember which came first, but I'd guess it was the Cinerama. But I went to many roadshows in the mid-to-late 1960s once I was able to drive myself to the theaters in Charlotte: MY FAIR LADY, THE SOUND OF MUSIC, DR. ZHIVAGO, THE AGONY AND THE ECSTACY, THE GREAT RACE, CAMELOT, FINIAN'S RAINBOW, STAR!, HELLO, DOLLY. I think the last one I ever went to was PAINT YOUR WAGON.
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: Matt H. on November 16, 2004, 07:02:10 AM
You're welcome, DR JRand, for the reminder about the Deep Discount sale. I am going there this morning with a sizable order.
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: Ginny on November 16, 2004, 07:03:17 AM
DR MattH - Thanks for reminding me about The Agony and The Ecstasy, which I saw with my parents, and Dr. Zhivago, which remains one of my all-time favorite movies.
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: Matt H. on November 16, 2004, 07:20:15 AM
It's funny about the roadshow movies in that I can remember as clear as a bell which theaters I went to to see them. I guess because you dressed up and paid a higher price for a reserved seat, the theater has stuck in my mind. And there were some roadshows which I waited until they came back at lower prices: OLIVER! for example. And I saw 2001 at a Cinerama theater and later at a regulation sized theater (where it wasn't nearly as impressive).
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: MBarnum on November 16, 2004, 07:21:36 AM
I tried to go to DeepdiscountDVD.com last night but was unable to get in...must have been a rush to used the discount. I will try to put in my order at lunch time if someone can remind me of the discount code again! Thanks!!
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Post by: Matt H. on November 16, 2004, 07:21:46 AM
Those of us of a certain age - can you remember how long some of these roadshows ran? THE SOUND OF MUSIC ran here for a record time - 59 weeks.

Justy remembered a couple more (but it was before I had my driver's license): CLEOPATRA, LAWRENCE OF ARABIA.
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Post by: MBarnum on November 16, 2004, 07:22:15 AM
I never saw a roadshow...maybe we didn't have them in Medford, Oregon.
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Post by: Matt H. on November 16, 2004, 07:23:01 AM
I tried to go to DeepdiscountDVD.com last night but was unable to get in...must have been a rush to used the discount. I will try to put in my order at lunch time if someone can remind me of the discount code again! Thanks!!

DR MBarnum: It's "DVDTalk" (omit quotes)
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: Dan (the Man) on November 16, 2004, 07:31:55 AM
DR MattH - Thanks for reminding me about The Agony and The Ecstasy, which I saw with my parents, and Dr. Zhivago, which remains one of my all-time favorite movies.

Dr. Zhivago is one of my favs, too, DR Ginny.  It's one of those movies that I just lock into and I can watch it from any point.  I would love to see it on a big screen.



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Post by: MBarnum on November 16, 2004, 07:33:29 AM
Thank you DR Matth! Now I can do some shoppin'!
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: Dan (the Man) on November 16, 2004, 07:36:13 AM
DR MB, are you able to get to the DeepDiscountDVD site?  I keep getting a server error message.
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: Matthew on November 16, 2004, 07:42:30 AM
Roadshow pictures were before my time, also.  Or maybe they were during my time, but it's hard to remember your very early childhood, it's not as clear as a bell as your later childhood.
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: Jrand74 on November 16, 2004, 07:46:06 AM
Yes MBARNUM, I had some trouble last night too.  They must have been very busy.  But if it doesn't work, save the items in your shopping cart and try again.
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: PennyO on November 16, 2004, 07:47:31 AM
Yo!

I remember seeing Around the World in 80 Days - didn't know it was a Road Show!!!

And, speaking of road shows... Chaspen/Arts presents JEWISH THIGHS ON BROADWAY  at the Clurman Theater, on 42nd St, NYC,  March 16-27, starring Penny Orloff, with Jose Piano - Music Director! (Chaspen/Arts is a 501-c-3 non-profit org, if you wondered...)
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Post by: PennyO on November 16, 2004, 07:48:12 AM
Wow - did I just start Page 2???
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Post by: PennyO on November 16, 2004, 07:49:47 AM
Anyhow, if you would like more info about our show, email me directly!

and just BTW - BRUCE!!!!! Congratulations on the book, you prolific little thing you!!! I'll be at the NYC signing, of course!
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Post by: Matt H. on November 16, 2004, 08:06:42 AM
With some difficulty, I can get to the site, and I put items in my cart. Then, when I go to checkout, I'm informed my cart is empty. Strange.
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: Dan (the Man) on November 16, 2004, 08:11:27 AM
I'm able to get to DeepDiscountsDVD now.  So far I've picked two items:  Ric Burns' New York and something called New York in the Fifties, which sounds like a literary Broadway, The Golden Age.  Still shopping...
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Post by: Ben on November 16, 2004, 08:22:17 AM
Chaspen/Arts is a nonprofit organization founded by our own Miss Penny Orloff. She's too modest. You can see the good work she and her friend have done by going to their Web site

http://members.aol.com/chaspen/
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on November 16, 2004, 08:33:46 AM
When checking the date of Around the World in 80 Days I read that Mike Todd was born Avron Hirsch Goldenbogen.

Just imagine: released in Goldenbogen-a-o.
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Post by: George on November 16, 2004, 08:35:36 AM
DR MBarnum: It's "DVDTalk" (omit quotes)

The DeepDiscountDVD.com discount code in the e-mail that I got was "SUPERSALE" (omit quotes, also)!  I wonder if one person can use both codes for different orders. ::) Hmm.
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Post by: Jrand74 on November 16, 2004, 08:39:28 AM
That would be great DRGEORGE!
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on November 16, 2004, 08:41:35 AM
I'll be at the NYC signing, of course!

DR PennyO - a cautionary tale.

My highschool friend Patty attended a book signing at Barnes and Noble on Broadway. The book was by Patty's closest girlfriend from high school (the author's name is well known but will simply be called Jane). The two hadn't seen each other for about 30 years. When Patty reached the front of the line, Jane asked her how she'd like the book inscribed. Patty had waited for this moment for a long time, and gave Jane the secret gibberish phrase that the two of them had always exchanged. And Jane replied: "Would you run that by me again."
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Post by: MBarnum on November 16, 2004, 08:58:58 AM
I can't decide what to buy from Deepdiscountdvd.com now that I have the discount code! LOL! Am thinking about Silk Stockings, Rebel Without a Cause, and The Ugly Dachshund...but none of those are on my must have list...maybe I should be saving my money. LOL! But I hate to miss a bargain...even if it is for something I don't need! Ha!
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on November 16, 2004, 09:01:01 AM
The DeepDiscountDVD.com discount code in the e-mail that I got was "SUPERSALE" (omit quotes, also)!  I wonder if one person can use both codes for different orders. ::) Hmm.

Is the discount amount still 20% with that code, George?

I've since added the Public Theatre's Pirates of Penzance and Diane Keaton's Heaven to my order.
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: Noel on November 16, 2004, 09:11:32 AM
My highschool friend Patty attended a book signing at Barnes and Noble on Broadway. The book was by Patty's closest girlfriend from high school (the author's name is well known but will simply be called Jane). The two hadn't seen each other for about 30 years. When Patty reached the front of the line, Jane asked her how she'd like the book inscribed. Patty had waited for this moment for a long time, and gave Jane the secret gibberish phrase that the two of them had always exchanged. And Jane replied: "Would you run that by me again."

Well, then, we who attend BK's book signings should speak to him in gibberish.


I, too, am too young to remember roadshow pictures.  The earliest films I can recall seeing are Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines, The Sound of Music and Mary Poppins.  I saw these in New York, and it seems very likely to me these weren't roadshow events.  In my family, you didn't spend extra money on a child, so if there was an alternative of waiting to see the movie at a cheaper (2nd-run?) price, that's what would have happened.
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Post by: DERBRUCER on November 16, 2004, 09:16:18 AM
DAMN THESE TRICKY GLASSES - DAMN THEM ALL TO HELL

Extract from an  AP story (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,138648,00.html):

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Subway Sign Makes Mean Comment
Monday, November 15, 2004
 
It may have been computer hackers. It may have been an inside joke. But whatever it was, it had New York subway riders scratching their heads Thursday.

"PRETTY GIRLS DON'T RIDE THE SUBWAY" read an electronic message board at the West Fourth Street subway station in Greenwich Village, reports the New York Daily News.

The sign, which usually reminds riders not to run down escalators or to make sure to fold up baby strollers, flashed the strange message for several hours before it was unplugged around 8 p.m.

The New York City Transit Authority  said it was looking into the matter, but a token-booth clerk figured some joker had hacked into the subway's computer system.
...

And I read "broken-tooth clerk"!

der Brucer
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: DERBRUCER on November 16, 2004, 09:21:47 AM
JEWISH THIGHS ON BROADWAY  

Been there
Done that
LOVED IT

der I-even-read-the-book Brucer
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: bk on November 16, 2004, 09:24:22 AM
Roadshow pictures were ones that opened in one big theater in a city (usually a big city with a big theater), played reserved seats only, usually had only two screenings a day.  
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Post by: Noel on November 16, 2004, 09:30:53 AM
PRETTY GIRLS DON'T RIDE THE SUBWAY
a token-booth clerk figured some joker had hacked into the subway's computer

A joker?  Or somebody brave enough to tell the truth?

<signed>

Disgruntled Commuter with Too Little To Look At
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Post by: bk on November 16, 2004, 09:34:53 AM
Welcome eight GUESTS.  We're talkin' about roadshow movies.
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Post by: bk on November 16, 2004, 09:35:29 AM
Oh, and can anyone find out the derivation of "roadshow" in terms of reserved seat films?
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Post by: Jay on November 16, 2004, 09:37:54 AM
I also vaguely, VAGUELY recall being taken to see WEST SIDE STORY somewhere in Brooklyn....must have been a re-release somewhere aroung '68 or '69.... For some reason I sort of recall it having reserved seats.  Perhaps DB Jay remembers this better than I.  (Jay, I also vaguely, VAGUELY remember it either being near Aunt Mary's apartment, or she was with us....)

Sorry, Dear Brother.  I have no recollection of such an adventure.  

I don't believe I ever saw a film in a roadshow engagement.
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Post by: George on November 16, 2004, 10:06:51 AM
Is the discount amount still 20% with that code, George?

Yes it is 20%.  I tried to order two DVDs this morning.  I added them to my cart and entered the code.  It applied the code, but when I clicked the "proceed to checkout" button, I got the message "You cannot checkout.  Your cart is empty."  I tried it three different times.  THEN I realized that both the DVDs I wanted were not in stock. >:( You can only use the code on in-stock items.  Damn.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 16, 2004, 10:28:53 AM
Oh, and can anyone find out the derivation of "roadshow" in terms of reserved seat films?

Here's a little something (and it wasn't easy to find via Google):

http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/NewSite/INDEX/ARTICLES/roadshow.asp
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Post by: JoseSPiano on November 16, 2004, 10:33:01 AM
Good Afternoon!

Well, I tried and tried, but I just couldn't drag myself out of bed until around 12:30pm.  The weird thing is is that I know I set my radio/CD player to go off at 8:00 the past two days, but either it's not working or I'm sleeping through the "alarm".  And, yes, I do check to make sure everything has been set correctly before and after going to bed - well, after I get I up, I mean.  Who knows?!?!?  Guess I just need the sleep.  In any case...

As for roadshow pictures... My earliest memories of going to the movies were the ones at the Ft. Myer's movie theatre - which meant they were second (if not third) run by the time they were distributed to the military bases.  As for first movie, "Bambi", "Alice in Wonderland" and "Flipper" stick in my head.  And a few laters, the first drive-in movie was either "Orca" and/or "The Witch of Blackbird Pond" - or something close to that title.  -Quite the double-feature for a nine-year old in the back seat of a Ford Gran Torino.  -Of course, my brothers and I were playing on the swing set, and hanging out at the snack bar.
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Post by: DERBRUCER on November 16, 2004, 10:36:04 AM
TOD

If I were to use the line "I'm too young to remember" the topic would have to be "First Talking Picture you saw".

Philly didn't have "Roadshows" in the classic sense - the films were shown in newly converted downtown theatres, the prices were raised, the seating was newer, and souvenir programs were sold.

With that qualification - I saw all the biggies at launch!

"This Is Cinerama" - 1952 (same time as 3-Ds "Bwana Devil" which preceded the much more popular "House of Wax" by a few months)

"The Robe"- 1953 (First CinemaScope*)

"Oklahoma" - 1955 (First ToddAO "Cinerama-outa-one hole" film - although most remember 1956's "Around the World in 80 Days")

An interesting observation concerning prices from WideScreeenMuseum (http://www.widescreenmuseum.com/widescreen/wingto7.htm):
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In 1955, general admission for an adult in a major first run theatre was about $.75. Oklahoma!'s top ticket price of $3.50 in 1955 dollars translates to about $45.00 today. The Todd-AO run of Oklahoma! was on a reserved seat only basis, "...as in the legitmate theatre." as the ad explains. Ticket prices were in line with the legitimate theatre also. And NO POPCORN in a Todd-AO theatre!

After that the 70MM revolution was off and running! Super wide screen culminated in Dimension 150 ("The Bible" -1966 and 'Patton" - 1970)

* It is interesting to note that the term 'CinemaScope' itself, is the first word in common usage in the English language to use a capital letter within, or inside, the word itself. In recent years, this practice has now become popular in describing computer-related companies and products. (From ScopeHistory (http://jkor.com/peter/scopehist.html))

der Brucer
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Post by: Charles Pogue on November 16, 2004, 10:43:32 AM
Matt H.  prompted me to remember that I also saw FINIAN'S RAINBOW on my own steam as a young adult.  I must have seen it as a roadshow because I have the souvenir program to it.
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Post by: Jrand74 on November 16, 2004, 11:09:15 AM
LOL derBrucer.....me, too!  

Interesting article RLP.  I couldn't find anything definitive re:Roadshows either.  They seem to have been around almost as long as movies.  And EXCLUSIVE showing rights for a specific theatre within a 100-mile radius seems to be one of the criteria.  I know if we wanted to see CIRCUS WORLD (a low-rent Cinerama movie) will had to go to Indianapolis and pay $4 or more at the Cinerama Theatre.

Does any DR remember The Big Circus with Victor Mature and Peter Lorre and David Nelson.  I would love to have a copy of it, but it is not available on video or DVD.  I bought "The Big Show" but that turned out to be an Esther Williams-Cliff Robertson movie that ... well ... the best part was when mean Robert Vaughn got mauled by the polar bear that his wife had used to commit suicide!
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Post by: Jrand74 on November 16, 2004, 11:24:19 AM
RE: The subway sign:  Maybe it was a threat.

MR BK - I am glad you decided to stay at the Doubletree.  I think your trip is too important to have the added hassle of a substandard hotel experience!  You will never be sorry you - especially when you return after a LONG day!

Saving money is great (I just did at DD DVD) - but being sure of the product is priceless!
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Post by: Jrand74 on November 16, 2004, 11:27:13 AM
Of course if money was no object - I would have suggested The Muse.  

www.themusehotel.com

It is the former Leavitt Building at 130 W. 46th St. :D
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: Ben on November 16, 2004, 11:46:00 AM
The former Leavitt Building at 130 W. 46th St. which now houses the Muse Hotel is also just down the block from the Equity office (on the corner of 46th and Broadway) and also just a building or two away from the former High School of Performing Arts, now the Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis High School for International Careers.
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: Jennifer on November 16, 2004, 11:56:42 AM
I disagree about the hotel.  $450 a night is a ridiculous price.  There must be something better.  I'm not sure how fancy the place has to be.  But I've stayed at the Best Western President, the Edison, The howard johnson, the Days Inn, and those were all well under $150 a night.
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: td on November 16, 2004, 12:07:38 PM
From a journal:
For once, I am allowed to stay up way past my bedtime to go to a movie at the Manos Theater (an indoor one!) following a good report card to see MY FAIR LADY.  It’s a very long movie, but, I’ve practically worn out my record of the soundtrack, and know all the songs, but not the story.  I was still questioning one of the song’s lyrics, I wanted to know whose crown it was when Eliza sang, “not for all the jewels in the crown.“  Sitting in these comfortable seats, in this Art Deco drenched theater is an experience I savor.  The movie has lovely pictures of various flowers while the credits (or the writing on the screen, as I knew it) roll.  There seems to be music and sound coming from all around the theater.  Then, there on the screen is Audrey Hepburn.  Even at that age, I knew when I was looking at her, how hard it was to look at anything else on the screen.  Now, I had seen many movies at the drive-in, including all the great Walt Disney animated movies, none of those drive in experiences could have prepared me for the treasures which could be seen on HUGE screens, from comfortable chairs, with sound so life-like it was like being there in Covent Garden with the Professor and Eliza.  Even when the movie has ended, I know that I want MORE!
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: td on November 16, 2004, 12:16:56 PM
PAGE THREE DANCE!

(http://www.tvguide.com/movies/dbpix/images/27848a.jpg)
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: DERBRUCER on November 16, 2004, 12:31:16 PM
But I've stayed at the Best Western President, the Edison, The howard johnson, the Days Inn, and those were all well under $150 a night.

The operative word is "were".

Edison - full
HoJos -full
BestWestern - cheapest avail $990/nite
Days Inn - a bargain at $693/nite

Much under $300/nite just ain't a-happin' on the Island that week! You can save money and stay in Queens- or Jersey City.

New Yorkers don't obey all the laws, but the law of supply and demand seems to be in full force.

der Brucer

Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: DERBRUCER on November 16, 2004, 12:34:13 PM
Even when the movie has ended, I know that I want MORE!


You and Oliver Twist :D

der Brucer
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: William F. Orr on November 16, 2004, 12:42:55 PM
So, DR td, did you ever find out whose crown it was?
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: William F. Orr on November 16, 2004, 12:46:05 PM
I will now do my immitation of der Brucer, our resident jokester.

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Miss Beatrice, the church organist, was in her eighties and had never
been married. She was admired for her sweetness and kindness to all.

One afternoon the pastor came to call on her and she showed him into
her quaint sitting room. She invited him to have a seat while she prepared
tea.

As he sat facing her old pump organ, the young minister noticed a
cut-glass bowl sitting on top of it. The bowl was filled with water.
In the water floated, of all things, a condom!

When she returned with tea and scones, they began to chat. The pastor
tried to stifle his curiosity about the bowl of water and its strange
floater, but soon it got the better of him and he could no longer resist.

"Miss Beatrice", he said. "I wonder if you would tell me about this?"
pointing to the bowl.

"Oh, yes," she replied, "Isn't it wonderful? I was walking through the
park a few months ago and I found this little package on the ground.
The directions said to place it on the organ, keep it wet and that it would
prevent the spread of disease. Do you know I haven't had a cold all winter."
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: Matt H. on November 16, 2004, 12:49:59 PM
Matt H.  prompted me to remember that I also saw FINIAN'S RAINBOW on my own steam as a young adult.  I must have seen it as a roadshow because I have the souvenir program to it.


Yes, a lot of those roadshow movies did sell souvenir programs during intermission (and before and after, too, but they had intermissions). I bought quite a few souvenir programs, too. Some were even hard back souvenir programs like MY FAIR LADY!
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: JoseSPiano on November 16, 2004, 12:51:54 PM
I disagree about the hotel.  $450 a night is a ridiculous price.  There must be something better.  I'm not sure how fancy the place has to be.  But I've stayed at the Best Western President, the Edison, The howard johnson, the Days Inn, and those were all well under $150 a night.

As DR DERBRUCER pointed out already - and as BK mentioned - that week and weekend in NYC is quite busy.  And I think I've mentioned before that the month of December tends to be the highest rate period for hotels in NYC.  Even the "cheap" hotels aren't so cheap.  It's good ole supply and demand.

And just for fun, I checked on some rates for January.  The Doubletree has rooms available starting at $149/night!  Deluxe suites starting at $300/night!

On the sunny side of the issue, at least the "no room at the Inn" and higher nightly rates are a sign that people definitely are coming back to NYC post-9/11.

OH!  And when I was checking out hotel rooms for my stay last week in New York, I came across quite the deal at the Trump International Hotel and Towers!  Only $1,240/night!?!?!?!  And that was for the "small" suite!?!?!?!
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: JoseSPiano on November 16, 2004, 12:55:26 PM
OK - Time for my walk... I guess it's turning into more of a constitutional...

The question is: To "bakery" or not to "bakery".

;)

Laters...
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: William F. Orr on November 16, 2004, 01:02:18 PM
Well, DR Jose, my doctor told me I needed to lose weight, so I got a second opinion... from my baker.
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on November 16, 2004, 01:03:16 PM
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20041113/IMMIGRAT13/TPNational/Canada (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20041113/IMMIGRAT13/TPNational/Canada)

Interesting article about Sharon Gless's difficulties in her attempt to move to Canada.
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Post by: Tomovoz on November 16, 2004, 01:05:15 PM
DiT:  You are a fun guy.  Zoo opens in an hour.
That should give someone food  for thought.  (The bakeries are already open).
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Post by: Tomovoz on November 16, 2004, 01:05:58 PM
With your new Secretary Of State in Power I would be moving to Canada too. Atilla the Hen.
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: Matt H. on November 16, 2004, 01:07:33 PM
I had to move to another computer to get my order to go through on Deep Discount, but it finally did. Also, I did have one backordered item (DIAL M FOR MURDER), and I did get the discount on it and the order was finally accepted.
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: Jrand74 on November 16, 2004, 01:08:07 PM
LOL WFO - who would have thought.  That story went in a completely different direction than I expected it would.

See ya at the Trump, DRJOSE!  I am sure DRPENNYO will offer you a large enough per diem that you can stay there!

No one remembers THE BIG CIRCUS (as opposed to THE BIG SHOW)?
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: Matt H. on November 16, 2004, 01:09:03 PM
Since placing my order, of course, I've thought of two or three other DVDs I wish I had ordered. Typical.
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: Matt H. on November 16, 2004, 01:10:25 PM
No one remembers THE BIG CIRCUS (as opposed to THE BIG SHOW)?


No, I don't. Sorry. I've never seen either one of them though I had heard of both of them.
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: Jrand74 on November 16, 2004, 01:10:25 PM
Maybe they saw Sharon Gless in SWITCH.
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: Jrand74 on November 16, 2004, 01:11:12 PM
DRMATTH maybe you can try DRGEORGE's code Supersaver, I think it was.
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: Dan (the Man) on November 16, 2004, 01:30:30 PM
Comparing the prices to Amazon, I saved an impressive $83 in my DeepDiscountDVD order today.  Thanks Mucho, DR Matt!
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: George on November 16, 2004, 01:39:44 PM
DRMATTH maybe you can try DRGEORGE's code Supersaver, I think it was.

Actually, it was "SUPERSALE."  Good luck!
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: Jennifer on November 16, 2004, 01:44:21 PM
Re: finding a hotel.

I always try calling the 1-800 #s for the chains.  Usually if you ask for any type of discount (AAA or whatever) they can find something.

BK, what happened to that friend who was gonna get you into a different hotel?
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: Jrand74 on November 16, 2004, 01:57:55 PM
If I ever went on vacation or left my home, I might have some hotel suggestions......
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: Jrand74 on November 16, 2004, 01:58:32 PM
great journal Entry td - and lovely page three dance....

"Take the picture....take the picture.........."
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: Ginny on November 16, 2004, 02:01:42 PM
The former Leavitt Building at 130 W. 46th St. which now houses the Muse Hotel is also just down the block from the Equity office (on the corner of 46th and Broadway) and also just a building or two away from the former High School of Performing Arts, now the Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis High School for International Careers.

Also, right across the street from Comfort Inn-Midtown, recommended by several DRs last week.  Alas, not available for dates surrounding BK's signing event.
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: td on November 16, 2004, 02:52:04 PM
So, DR td, did you ever find out whose crown it was?



It was the crown that adorns my head when I'm in "ShowQueen" mode.   ;)
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: Jrand74 on November 16, 2004, 03:14:42 PM
Well - yesterday I used the Dvdtalk code and got 20% off and just now I used the Supersale code and got 20% off a second order.
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: Jrand74 on November 16, 2004, 03:15:25 PM
MBARNUM I just bought your Birthday/Christmas present.  Hopefully you don't have it already!
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Post by: Jane on November 16, 2004, 03:23:16 PM
DTM I am looking forward to this years Christmas photos.

In downtown Ashland they still have a drinking fountain with lithium water.  Keith always does his best to encourage our company to taste it.  So far no one has liked it.  ;D I don’t believe there is enough lithium in there to make a difference-but then one has to wonder why so many people fill bottles of water with that disgusting tasting stuff and cart them away.

DiT is there more to Patty’s story?  
Funny and interesting article on Sharon Gless, and I think a bit embarrassing for you government.

JRand I liked Sharon Gless in SWITCH.

DERBRUCER thank you for answering the question I would have asked Jennifer.

Jennifer I really suggest next time you also check the hotels directly before booking.  We often get better deals than through the 800 number.  In fact when I call a hotel I make sure I haven’t been transferred to their central reservations.
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Post by: Jane on November 16, 2004, 03:34:25 PM
Yesterday when MBarnum posted information on Ashland I should have mentioned another historical site here, a Carnegie Library.  Ginny should find that interesting.  Sorry I couldn’t find a good picture to post.

MBarnum we had a FedEx delivery today.  Did you see Jeff or is he too busy with his girlfriend?
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Post by: S. Woody White on November 16, 2004, 03:41:51 PM
Well, then, we who attend BK's book signings should speak to him in gibberish.
Those of us who have attended BK's book signings don't bother with gibberish, unless it's because our mouths are filled with cheese slices, ham chunks, and cake!

Quote
I, too, am too young to remember roadshow pictures.  The earliest films I can recall seeing are Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines, The Sound of Music and Mary Poppins.  I saw these in New York, and it seems very likely to me these weren't roadshow events.  In my family, you didn't spend extra money on a child, so if there was an alternative of waiting to see the movie at a cheaper (2nd-run?) price, that's what would have happened.
Usually with a roadshow screening, some sort of commemorative booklet was involved.  For a fee, again usually.

I'd forgotten that I saw Mary Poppins during it's original engagement at Grauman's Chinese.
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: S. Woody White on November 16, 2004, 03:42:43 PM
Page Four Dance:

[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%][size=20]Step in Time![/size][/move]
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: bk on November 16, 2004, 03:52:57 PM
My friend ran into the same problems - all rooms booked or more expensive than even what I'm paying.  Shocking, really.

All books shipped thus far.
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: Jane on November 16, 2004, 04:01:33 PM

I'd forgotten that I saw Mary Poppins during it's original engagement at Grauman's Chinese.

Maybe we were there on the same day.  :)

Has anyone found a link to a list of early roadshows?  I couldn’t.

I really don’t remember my first Roadshow picture, nor did I know they were called that-back then.  Like Penny I’m guessing it was AROUND THE WORLD IN 80 DAYS.  After graduation from ninth grade we went to IT’S A MAD MAD WORLD, where I had to pretend to laugh with the rest of the kids-didn’t want my date to feel bad.  

When I was in elementary school I know I went to a number of birthday parties where we had reserved seats, if they were Roadshows I can’t tell you.  

I saw SOUND OF MUSIC twice.  In the years around that time I remember Keith and I went to a number of movies we purchased tickets for, new and old (GWTW & LAURENCE OF ARABIA).  
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: Jane on November 16, 2004, 04:03:18 PM
My friend ran into the same problems - all rooms booked or more expensive than even what I'm paying.  Shocking, really.



And I had thought I picked a busy expensive week to visit NY.
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Post by: Noel on November 16, 2004, 04:23:14 PM
Guests of Our Wedding - The Musical   www.weddingmusical.com  (http://www.weddingmusical.com) stayed at the Hotel Beacon, on Broadway near 75th.  No one complained (to us, at least).  I honestly cannot fathom why BK would want to stay in Times Square.  There are other parts of New York that are actually pleasant; quiet, even.  So many tourists want to stay in the 'hood they've heard of (Times Square, where that ball drops ever New Year), that the hotels in that part of town can jack up their prices and still sell every room.

I do understand that availability is what it is because New York's a very popular destination in December.  But do yourself a favor and look beyond the theatre district.  You can always visit there when you're not asleep.
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Post by: td on November 16, 2004, 04:40:30 PM
http://www.widescreenmuseum.com/widescreen/showmanship.htm (http://www.widescreenmuseum.com/widescreen/showmanship.htm)

This should keep Roadshow Enthusiasts surfing for a while. . .. ;D
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Post by: Jane on November 16, 2004, 04:41:44 PM
Noel my room at the Wellington was very quiet, yet I could walk the streets at all hours.  I think I just set myself up with that last statement.  The latest I was out walking was 1:45 and there were plenty of people around.
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: JoseSPiano on November 16, 2004, 04:46:28 PM
Guests of Our Wedding - The Musical   www.weddingmusical.com  (http://www.weddingmusical.com) stayed at the Hotel Beacon, on Broadway near 75th.  No one complained (to us, at least).  I honestly cannot fathom why BK would want to stay in Times Square.  There are other parts of New York that are actually pleasant; quiet, even.  So many tourists want to stay in the 'hood they've heard of (Times Square, where that ball drops ever New Year), that the hotels in that part of town can jack up their prices and still sell every room.

I do understand that availability is what it is because New York's a very popular destination in December.  But do yourself a favor and look beyond the theatre district.  You can always visit there when you're not asleep.

For better or worse, people like to stay in or near Times Square, because it's Times Square.  Even when I go to NYC, I usually prefer to stay around Times Square.  It's convenient, and I can usually find and/or work out some good deal on a hotel room.  And it's just so much easier to walk a few blocks to the Equity building to play auditions or over to the New 42nd Street studios to play rehearsals.  And even though Times Square may be bright and noisy, most of the hotel rooms around Times Square are "dark" and quiet - at least in my experience.  In fact, I'd have to say the quietest room I've ever had in NYC was at the Doubletree.  And the room came equipped with blackout shades on the windows since my room overlooked Times Square.  *And the worst room I've ever had in New York was an interior/no-window room at the Waldorf-Astoria.  YUCK!  Quiet, yes, but very unpleasant.  -But then again, I didn't book the room, so...

It's New York City, not New York Hamlet.

Yes, there are times when I've been in NYC where I know I would like some peace and quiet while I'm up there.  In those instances, I usually book over at the Skyline (50th and 10th - still my favorite), or I book over on the East Side - talk about quiet, especially after 5:00pm!

And all hotels in and around New York City jack up their nightly rates during popular periods - not just those around Times Square.  Heck, try booking a room during "in season" in southern Florida - talk about supply and demand!  When I had a gig in Ft. Myers during the holiday season, the cheapest room I could find was $178/night - and that was at a La Quinta!

And from recent personal experience, some people actually like Times Square, warts and all.  My friend, Steve, grew up in rural Virginia, and when he wants to go The City, he wants to go THE CITY.  It's not that he doesn't appreciate his more rural origins, but since it's something he's not been exposed to on a regular basis, it's something he wants to experience.  Nothing wrong with that.
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: Jane on November 16, 2004, 04:49:17 PM
Thanks td.  I’m sure I saw more roadshow pictures than listed here.  From that list I saw BEN HUR, TEN COMMANDMANTS & WEST SIDE STORY at a roadshow.  
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: td on November 16, 2004, 04:53:01 PM
Ah, but Jane, did you read all the memos and stuff on presentation?

If my memory serves, for a roadshow engagement to be classified as one, no theater within 100 miles could be showing the same film.
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: Jane on November 16, 2004, 05:03:48 PM
Do you mean go back to the lobby and read more?  I wouldn't have known if a movie was only withing the 100 miles distance, only that we purchased reserved seats.  I lived near the same theaters that Bruce saw his roadshow pictures.
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Post by: S. Woody White on November 16, 2004, 05:30:36 PM
Had to step away for a while, to get some things for dinner started and head to the store for a couple of others.  

Der Brucer has been whining asking me to make pineapple fritters, something I've never tried before.  Since all the eggs in the house have been in the house for a while, and (in every recipe I've got) fritter batter requires the eggs to be separated, with the beaten whites folded into the batter towards the end, I needed fresh eggs.  The fritters should go well with ham steak and cheddar grits.  (The leftover pineapple juice from the can is the basis for a sweet and sour sauce, of course.)

Hungry yet?
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: td on November 16, 2004, 05:49:11 PM
Do you mean go back to the lobby and read more?  I wouldn't have known if a movie was only withing the 100 miles distance, only that we purchased reserved seats.  I lived near the same theaters that Bruce saw his roadshow pictures.

Just for you, Jane (well, not really), but since YOU asked:
http://www.widescreenmuseum.com/widescreen/showmanship.htm
http://www.widescreenmuseum.com/widescreen/road-gwtw1.htm
http://www.widescreenmuseum.com/widescreen/roadshow_ben-hur.htm
http://www.widescreenmuseum.com/widescreen/elcid1.htm
http://www.widescreenmuseum.com/widescreen/roadshow_demille.htm
http://www.widescreenmuseum.com/widescreen/wss_presentation.htm
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Post by: Jrand74 on November 16, 2004, 05:52:34 PM
I love that site DRtd - every theater owner was a Showman!!
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: Stuart on November 16, 2004, 05:56:55 PM
Just to let you know, I gave in to all your talk earlier about DeepDiscountDVD's sale.  So copies of B'WAY'S LOST TREASURES II and BWAY: THE GOLDEN AGE are on their way (Free shipping!  20% Off!  woo-hoo!) to Rochester!
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: S. Woody White on November 16, 2004, 06:06:33 PM
I honestly cannot fathom why BK would want to stay in Times Square.  There are other parts of New York that are actually pleasant; quiet, even. ..I do understand that availability is what it is because New York's a very popular destination in December.  But do yourself a favor and look beyond the theatre district.  You can always visit there when you're not asleep.
If BK were a "tourist," this advice would make sense.  However, he is also a businessman, and my hunch is that the booksigning and reading isn't the only part of this trip that will be business.  Having a convenient location for business meetings (in his case logically in the theater district) makes perfectly good sense.
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: S. Woody White on November 16, 2004, 06:15:06 PM
Dear DR WFOrr: Der B appreciates the joke, and the compliment!
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: S. Woody White on November 16, 2004, 06:18:55 PM
As I recall, roadshow engagements of films basically ended with a) fourwalling, (http://www.doubletongued.org/index.php/dictionary/fourwalling/) and b) the birth of the multiplex theater.  These took place at about the same time, during the late '60s-early '70s.  

These days a film has to make it's biggest impact during it's first weekend, and even a hit can be designated a flop if it doesn't make as much as the prognosticators predict.
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: bk on November 16, 2004, 06:27:39 PM
I just like the theater district, and yes, I'll be having a few meetings close by.

Spent most of today going through the script and making fixes and changes and moving a few things around.  I was pretty happy with it, though, and all the little stuff I did today helped, I think.  I'll spend the next two days going over it some more, and then get it out of here by Thursday afternoon.
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: Jrand74 on November 16, 2004, 06:31:37 PM
Did you use the voodoo, MR BK?  It's the voodoo, I tells ya!
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: Jane on November 16, 2004, 06:57:57 PM
td reading those brought back wonderful memories of anticipation as the curtain opened.  Thank you.  

While not yet a glimmer in my parents eyes when GWTW premiered on December 28, 1939 at the Carthay Circle Theater in Los Angeles, Keith and I did go there in the late 60’s (I think 1967) for a re-release.  We had reserved seating for two consecutive nights as the intermission lasted an entire day.   
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: td on November 16, 2004, 07:10:40 PM
Believe it or not, Jane, I have actually been to a theater that showed GWTW without an Intermission!  (the same theater did the same with THE SOUND OF MUSIC for its first shows of the day on weekends).
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: td on November 16, 2004, 07:12:20 PM
Quote
td reading those brought back wonderful memories of anticipation as the curtain opened.  Thank you.

You're welcome!   :)
And if you have (or get it from Netflix) STAR! I believe that Robert Wise's notes for its Road Show Engagements are still there, they were indeed on the laserdisc.
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: td on November 16, 2004, 07:14:54 PM
Speaking of Netflix, how many DRs use this wonderful service, and what's currently in your queue?

Mine has FANDO & LIS by Jodorowsky, two Shirley Bassey concert dvds, SAVED! and MEAN GIRLS.
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: TCB on November 16, 2004, 07:22:33 PM
Oh, that's it, make the rest of us feel ancient!   ::)



 ;)


We are ancient!
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Post by: td on November 16, 2004, 07:31:29 PM
We are ancient!
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Not YOU, TCB!  You're ageless to me!   :-*
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: Jane on November 16, 2004, 07:35:11 PM
There was a nice article in our local paper on Nuns in America featuring Dolores Hart.  Included were two photos of her, then and now.  I attempted to find the link to my paper with the photos but there wasn’t one.  Following is another link, minus the photographs.
http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/local/state/hc-12012224.apds.m0877.bc-ct--nunsnov12,0,6266142.story?coll=hc-headlines-local-wire
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Post by: Jane on November 16, 2004, 07:38:33 PM
td I could have sat through those movies without an intermission when I was young, but no way now.  Of course it wasn't smart of them-missed out on all those candy, etc. sales.

I'm going to check my Netflix queue now.
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Post by: Jane on November 16, 2004, 07:46:46 PM
We have four DVD’s out and 21 in our queue.  I’ll only name a few:

BEFORE SUNRISE
BEFORE SUNSET
YAHUDI
THE TERMINAL
13 GOING ON 30

Thanks for asking.  I found a movie in there we have seen and I wasn’t too keen on it the first time around.
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Post by: td on November 16, 2004, 07:48:07 PM
I have one out (TENEBRAE) and 40(!) in mine!
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Post by: PennyO on November 16, 2004, 07:50:52 PM

See ya at the Trump, DRJOSE!  I am sure DRPENNYO will offer you a large enough per diem that you can stay there!

Hahahahahahahaaaaaa!!! DR PennyO is the Queen of low Budget! Jose is working the show, because he has his own digs in NYC!!!
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Post by: td on November 16, 2004, 07:51:28 PM
(http://www.ruphin.com/SHIRLEY-BASSEY.jpg)

Page FIVE DANCE!  
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Post by: bk on November 16, 2004, 07:53:21 PM
Yes, Jrand, the voodoo is in.
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Post by: Matt H. on November 16, 2004, 07:54:11 PM
Speaking of the GWTW re-release in the 1960s, who remembers in around 1967, MGM issued a WIDESCREEN version of GONE WITH THE WIND with the film blown up to 70mm and the tops and bottoms of the frame chopped off to make it widescreen. What a horrendous, dreadful idea!People's heads in the shot were lopped off, and it just looked awful with none of that super rich Technicolor look in the original prints.
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Post by: Matt H. on November 16, 2004, 07:56:01 PM
Ah, me! The PR for NUNCRACKERS has begun. We're appearing for a thirty minute preview on Thursday evening at some local event, and then heading straight to rehearsal to do the entire show for the first time!
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Post by: Jane on November 16, 2004, 08:00:11 PM
Heads lopped off, oh my.  If they were I don't remember that.
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Post by: PennyO on November 16, 2004, 08:01:14 PM
Hey, I just got back from seeing 'night, Mother - oy vey, what a grim show - a very long 90 minutes!!! But absolutely wonderful performances. So, anyway, on the way out of the theater, who should I run into but Larry Grossman, the composer of A Doll's Life and Grind, among others. It's been at least 20 years - we congratulated each other for looking "exactly the same" which, btw, he really does! And now, for the last hour, "Stay With Me, Nora" has been playing on an endless loop in my brain! Beautiful song. That is all - nitey nite, gang o' mine!
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Post by: TCB on November 16, 2004, 08:02:04 PM
Thank you, td, you say the sweetest things.

PennyO -- Congratulations on the show.  I wish I could be in New York to see it............... I wish I could be in New York for BK's book signing........................I wish I could be in New York to see Harvey play Tveye..............................I wish I could be in New York.
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Post by: td on November 16, 2004, 08:08:19 PM
i try to speak the truth whenever possible, TCB.   ;)
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Post by: MBarnum on November 16, 2004, 08:09:01 PM
MBarnum we had a FedEx delivery today.  Did you see Jeff or is he too busy with his girlfriend?


Haven't seen Jeff yet. My sister was hoping all of us up here could get together with him, but so far I think he has been busy...as I imagine he would be!
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Post by: George on November 16, 2004, 08:14:35 PM
Speaking of Netflix, how many DRs use this wonderful service, and what's currently in your queue?

I use Netflix and have more than 60 movies in my queue!  This does include all of the Cirque du Soleil DVDs...plus many others. ::) Some of the movies (listed here in alphabetical order) include:

Berlin: Symphony of a Great City / Opus 1
Carol Channing and Pearl Bailey in Broadway
Diane Schur & the Count Basie Orchestra (I met her!)
Funny Ladies of British Comedy
Jeffrey
Man of the Century
Matthew Bourne's Swan Lake
Matthew Bourne's The Car Man
The Night Larry Kramer Kissed Me
Penn & Teller: Bullsh*t! (all three discs)
Somewhere Over the Rainbow: Harold Arlen

And others that shall remain unmentioned! ;)
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Post by: MBarnum on November 16, 2004, 08:18:47 PM
MBARNUM I just bought your Birthday/Christmas present.  Hopefully you don't have it already!

Woohoo!  ;D
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Post by: MBarnum on November 16, 2004, 08:24:52 PM
Well, of the 8 inquiries I mailed out the other week to people in the Florida area who have the same names as the obscure cast members of THE WILD WOMEN OF WONGO (1958) I have received two response.

Now I know that Barbara Babbitt of Tampa, Florida is not THAT Barbara Babbitt!

However, Kenneth Vitulli of Homestead, Florida is THAT Kenneth Vitulli, and he and I had a very nice chat on the phone today! He was quite, quite, quite (that is 3 quites) surprised to hear that anyone had even heard of, let alone actually seen, this movie that he made so long ago! But he does have good memories of making it and lots of ancedotes for me to use for my article...am looking forward to interviewing him very soon! First I am going to send him a copy of the movie so that he can refresh his memory. He still works as an actor in Florida, by the way.

Now just hoping to hear from a couple of the others I contacted.
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Post by: td on November 16, 2004, 08:28:57 PM
Quote
And others that shall remain unmentioned

ah, DR George. . . you can mention them here. . .remember, there is no groaning on HHW!   ;)
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Post by: td on November 16, 2004, 08:29:26 PM
MBarnum!  Cool WILD WOMEN news!  Congrats!
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on November 16, 2004, 08:38:35 PM
ATTN DR Jennifer:  I watched The Amazing Race tonight and I think I'm hooked on this go round.  I at least want to watch it until the super annoying guy loses or until his wife kills him, which ever comes first.
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Post by: S. Woody White on November 16, 2004, 08:45:33 PM
Speaking of the GWTW re-release in the 1960s, who remembers in around 1967, MGM issued a WIDESCREEN version of GONE WITH THE WIND with the film blown up to 70mm and the tops and bottoms of the frame chopped off to make it widescreen.
I remember it.  Dad was out of town, and Mom decided she really really really (that's three) wanted to see GWTW again.  Since she didn't want to see it alone, I went with her.

The three movie theaters in Burbank at the time were all horrid affairs, something I've never understood considering how many studios are located in that town.  Creaky wooden floors patinaed with layers of spilled soda, seats that were sprung and not springy, a screen that was stained from whatever had been thrown it's way over the years, that sort of thing.  And no, Mom wasn't about to spring for popcorn or soda, and the intermission was missing.

I probably could have had a better introduction to the film.   :-\
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Post by: S. Woody White on November 16, 2004, 08:48:46 PM
Heads lopped off, oh my.  If they were I don't remember that.
It was sort of like watching a version of GWTW starring Sydney Carton.
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Post by: Noel on November 16, 2004, 08:54:59 PM
I think very highly of Larry Grossman, especially of the song Penny mentioned, Stay With Me Nora.

When I'm playing piano and get introduced to someone, I tend to play the songs that contain their names - Laura, Tammie, etc.  Playing that one is fun, because, inevitably the Nora has never heard the song.
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Post by: S. Woody White on November 16, 2004, 08:59:19 PM
In what is interesting timing, Schickel's review of Polar Express is in this week's Time.

(and I quote):

You will have heard by now that the IMAX verison of Robert Zemeckis' animated movie is an historic occasion - the first fictional feature ever to be presented on the big, big screen to audiences wearing those silly 3-D goggles....There are only about 50 IMAX locations in the U.S. screening it.

(and much later...)

But look, it's not art.  It's a head trip.  You could argue, in fact, that the IMAX Polar Express returns movies to their most primitive beginings, when the simple act of realistically capturing motion on a screen - narrative subtlety be damned - was sufficient to thrill, enchant and totally involve an audience.

Sounds to me like the return of the Roadshow movie.  And look, Ma, no Cinerama camera division lines!  (Just plan on shelling out extra bucks at the box office.)
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Post by: td on November 16, 2004, 08:59:31 PM
Noel, that's sweet!  I've had accompanists at auditions who have played (softly) Bernstein's "To-ny, To-ny.  ." from "Tonight" just before I've sung at auditions.  Generally brings a relaxing laugh to the event.
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Post by: S. Woody White on November 16, 2004, 09:06:40 PM
BTW, the fritters I made for dinner tonight were fairly good.  The fruit inside wasn't overcooked, and the crust was light and tender.  Der B and I are agreed, however, that they would have been better if the crust had been, well, crustier.  I'm thinking a little baking soda or powder might solve that problem.
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Post by: Emily on November 16, 2004, 09:11:46 PM
Guess what someone just sent me via e-mail after a discussion over HHW's favourite topic of discussion (aka the Mary-Marry-Merry debate)

It's a traditional folksong sung by a Newfoundland band called Great Big Sea... and despite the quickness of the words I *believe* all three words are being pronounced the same...

[stream=256,256]http://www.greatbigsea.com/themusic/audio/up4.mp3[/stream]


There's a neat little lass and her name is Mari Mac
Make no mistake, she's the girl I'm gonna track
Lot of other fellas try to get her on her back
But I'm thinking that they'll have to get up early

Mari Mac's mother's making Mari Mac marry me
My mother's making me marry Mari Mac
Well I'm going to marry Mari for my Mari's taking care of me
We'll all be feeling merry when I marry Mari Mac

Now Mari and her mother are an awful lot together
In fact you hardly see the one without the other
And people often wonder if it's Mari or her mother
Or both of them together I am courting

Mari Mac's mother's making Mari Mac marry me
My mother's making me marry Mari Mac
Well I'm going to marry Mari for my Mari's taking care of me
We'll all be feeling merry when I marry Mari Mac

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Post by: MBarnum on November 16, 2004, 09:14:43 PM
Deputy Dog is dead  :'(



HENDERSONVILLE, N.C. -- Dayton Allen, a comedian and actor best known for his work as the voice of the cartoon character Deputy Dawg and the grumpy mayor Phineas T. Bluster on "The Howdy Doody Show," has died. He was 85.

Allen, who also was a regular on "The Steve Allen Show," died Thursday after suffering a massive stroke, said his brother, Bradley Bolke.

His most notable voice work came from his longtime association with the cartoon studio Terrytoons. He provided most of the voices for "The Deputy Dawg Show," a syndicated series that debuted in 1960. He was also the voice of the cartoon magpies Heckle and Jeckle, and many other characters.

Earlier, he spent four years on the original "Howdy Doody Show" with Buffalo Bob Smith, voicing such puppet characters as Phineas T. Bluster and Flub-a-Dub as well as such on-camera characters as Pierre the Chef.

On "The Steve Allen Show," he often appeared as a bogus expert or in the comic "Man on the Street" interviews. His frequent comment, "Why-y-y-y-y not?", became a popular catch phrase.

(http://www.animationcelection.com/images/1020092.jpg)* __

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Post by: bk on November 16, 2004, 09:16:42 PM
Twelve count them twelve users - we got us a quorum and a partay here at haineshisway.com.
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Post by: bk on November 16, 2004, 09:19:24 PM
We've had eight count them eight new registered users in the last two weeks.
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Post by: td on November 16, 2004, 09:20:05 PM
Since the MARY thing has come up again. . . .
Most of a survey from http://hcs.harvard.edu/~golder/dialect/maps.php

How do you pronounce:
1.aunt
2.been
3.the first vowel in "Bowie knife"
4.caramel
5.the vowel in the second syllable of "cauliflower"
6.the last vowel in "centaur"
7.coupon
8.Craig (the name)
9.crayon
10.creek (a small body of running water)
11.the first vowel in "Florida"
12.flourish
13.the last vowel in "handkerchief"
14.lawyer
15.How do you pronounce Mary/merry/marry?
16.mayonnaise
17.the first vowel in "miracle"
18.mischievous vs. mischievious
19.the final vowel in "Monday," "Friday," etc.
20.the second vowel in "pajamas"
21.pecan
22.poem
23.really
24.realtor (a real estate agent)
25.roof, room, broom, root
26.route (as in, "the route from one place to another")
27.the first vowel in "syrup"
28.Do you pronounce "cot" and "caught" the same?
29.almond
30.the "s" in "anniversary"
31.asterisk
32.candidate
33.the "s" in "chromosome"
34.et cetera
35.the final consonant in "garage"
36.the "c" in "grocery"
37.huge, humor, humongous, human...
38.the "s" in "nursery"
39.the "s" in the last name of Elvis Presley
40.quarter
41.Do you use "spigot" or "spicket" to refer to a faucet or tap that
water comes out of?
42.strength
43.the final consonant in "Texas"
44.cream cheese
45.insurance
46.New Haven (the city in Connecticut where Yale University is located)
47.Thanksgiving
48.umbrella
49.I ____ her lifeless body from the pool
50.What word(s) do you use to address a group of two or more people?
51.Would you say "Are you coming with?" as a full sentence, to mean "Are
you coming with us?"
52.Would you say "where are you at?" to mean "where are you?"
53.Modals are words like "can," "could," "might," "ought to," and so on.
Can you use more than one modal at a time? (e.g., "I might could do
that" to mean "I might be able to do that"; or "I used to could do that"
to mean "I used to be able to do that")
54.He used to nap on the couch, but he sprawls out in that new lounge
chair anymore
55.I do exclusively figurative paintings anymore
56.Pantyhose are so expensive anymore that I just try to get a good
suntan and forget about it.
57.Forget the nice clothes anymore (referring to babies eating messily
after a certain age)
58.Which of these terms do you prefer for a sale of unwanted items on
your porch, in your yard, etc.?
59.What do you call the game wherein the participants see who can throw
a knife closest to the other person (or alternately, get a jackknife to
stick into the ground or a piece of wood)?
60.What do you call the area of grass between the sidewalk and the road?
61.What do you call the area of grass that occurs in the middle of some
streets?
62.What do you call the long narrow place in the middle of a divided
highway?
63.What do you call the drink made with milk and ice cream?
64.What do you call the long sandwich that contains cold cuts, lettuce,
and so on?
65.What do you call the insect that flies around in the summer and has a
rear section that glows in the dark?
66.What do you call the miniature lobster that one finds in lakes and
streams for example (a crustacean of the family Astacidae)?
67.What do you call the kind of spider (or spider-like creature) that
has an oval-shaped body and extremely long legs?
68.What nicknames do/did you use for your maternal grandmother?
69.What about your paternal grandmother (is there a distinction?)
70.What do/did you call your maternal grandfather?
71.paternal grandfather?
72.What do you call the big clumps of dust that gather under furniture
and in corners?
73.What is your *general* term for the rubber-soled shoes worn in gym
class, for athletic activities, etc.?
74.What do you call the little gray creature (that looks like an insect
but is actually a crustacean) that rolls up into a ball when you touch it?
75.What do you call the wheeled contraption in which you carry groceries
at the supermarket?
76.What term do you use to refer to something that is across both
streets from you at an intersection (or diagonally across from you in
general)?
77.What do you call the activity of driving around in circles in a car?
78.What do you call paper that has already been used for something or is
otherwise imperfect?
79.What is your *general* term for a big road that you drive relatively
fast on?
80.What do you call it when rain falls while the sun is shining?
81.When you are cold, and little points of skin begin to come on your
arms and legs, you have-
82.What do you call the gooey or dry matter that collects in the corners
of your eyes, especially while you are sleeping?
83.What do you call an easy course?
84.What do you call a traffic situation in which several roads meet in a
circle and you have to get off at a certain point?
85.What is the thing that women use to tie their hair?
86.Do you use the word cruller?
87.Do you use the term "bear claw" for a kind of pastry?
88.What do you call someone who is the opposite of pigeon-toed (i.e.
when they walk their feet point outwards)?
89.Can you call coleslaw "slaw"?
90.What do you call the box you bury a dead person in?
91.Do you say "vinegar and oil" or "oil and vinegar" for the type of
salad dressing?
92.What do you call it when a driver changes over one or more lanes way
too quickly?
93.When you stand outside with a long line of people waiting to get in
somewhere, are you standing "in line" or "on line" (as in, "I stood ___
in the cold for two hours before they opened the doors")?
94.Do you say "frosting" or "icing" for the sweet spread one puts on a cake?
95.What is "the City"?
96.What is the distinction between dinner and supper?
100.Do you cut or mow the lawn or grass?
101.Do you pass in homework or hand in homework?
102.What do you call the insect that looks like a large thin spider and
skitters along the top of water?
103.What do you call the thing from which you might drink water in a school?
104.What do you call a public railway system (normally underground)?
105.What is your generic term for a sweetened carbonated beverage?
106.What do you call the act of covering a house or area in front of a
house with toilet paper?
107.What do you call a traffic jam caused by drivers slowing down to
look at an accident or other diversion on the side of the road?
108.What vowel do you use in bag?
109.What do you call the paper container in which you might bring home
items you bought at the store?
110.What do you call the night before Halloween?
111.What do you call the end of a loaf of bread?
112.How do you pronounce the word for the type of drug that acts as
central nervous system depressant and is used as a sedative or hypnotic?

(Please do not look up the word in a dictionary before answering this
question.)
113.amphitheater
114.citizen
115.What do you call a point that is purely academic, or that cannot be
settled and isn't worth discussing further?
116.How do you pronounce the -sp- sequence in "thespian" (the word
meaning "actor")?
117.What do you call the level of a building that is partly or entirely
underground?
118.What do you call a drive-through liquor store?
119.What do you call food that you buy at a restaurant but then eat at home?
120.What do you say when you want to lay claim to the front seat of a car?
121.What word do you use for gawking at someone in a lustful way?
122.Do you say "expecially", or "especially"?

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Post by: bk on November 16, 2004, 09:20:53 PM
Td wins longest post award (in terms of sheer size
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Post by: bk on November 16, 2004, 09:21:37 PM
Just got in from the Jacuzzi.  What in was doing in the Jacuzzi I'll never know (can you tell I've been watching the Marx Brothers?).  

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Post by: JoseSPiano on November 16, 2004, 09:22:25 PM
Good Evening!

Well... On my walk earlier tonight, I ended stopping by the chocolate shop, the bakery, 7-11 and the grocery store.  I only had a sample of chocolate at For the Love of Chocolate from the sample tin that's on the counter - usually they put stuff that's been overstocked, or, like it was today, chunks from something larger that's been broken apart (i.e. chocolate bunny).  I think tonight's selection was part of a chocolate turkey.

At the bakery, I had two almond crisps (basically puff pastry with some marzipan and slivered almonds baked in the layers, sliced into small squares), and a small raspberry linzer cookie.

At the 7-11, I bought a few lottery tickets - it's been a while.  I ended up buying two of the MegaMillions, and one scratcher.  I actually won $2.00 on the scratcher, then traded the $2.00 dollars in for another two scratchers.  I won "another" $2.00.  Well, since I knew my streak had to end sometime, I bought two more scratchers, and, surprise, surprise, I "lost".  Ah, well.. but it was a little exciting.

Then at the grocery store, I bought some toilet paper, kleenex and a bottle of that new 7-Up with fruit juice, calcium and vitamins.  The 7-Up was OK.  Oh, and I also picked up a snack of fried okra from the fried chicken counter.  YUM!

Then I walked back home.

Exciting, huh?
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Post by: JoseSPiano on November 16, 2004, 09:26:35 PM
One amazing thing I came across while walking was the renovation of the McDonald's on Cary Street.  The main part of the dining area is being redone - new floors, new booths, etc.  And they are also redoing the sidewalk area.  However, the kitchen is still open.  The drive-thru is still open!

It took me a few second to realize what was going on.  I saw that the place looked closed and was definitely under construction, but I could still smell that distinctive McD's frying smell.  Hmm... Then I saw the cars in the drive-thru lane.. Hmmm...  In any case, it looks like it will be pretty nice inside once they finish.  They're going for more of a dark-wood, European feeling - there are a few of those "types" of McD's in Richmond already.  One even has a grand piano in it!
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Post by: Panni on November 16, 2004, 09:30:25 PM
I'm back! My first posting from my new home environment. I'll keep this short and sweet. The move went well. The place is somewhat chaotic right now, but I'm beginning to see what it's going to look like. Abie is still at the kennel. I put him in during the move and was going to bring him home today -- but there is still too huge a mess. Tomorrow I'll get up VERY early and try to clean up most of the boxes, so I can pick him up by noon and not be charged for another day.
I just ate a disgustingly sweet pastry of some sort to give me some energy, but all it's done is to make me want something salty. That's about all I can manage right now. Hope everyone's well.
To be continued tomorrow.
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Post by: td on November 16, 2004, 09:35:46 PM
Td wins longest post award (in terms of sheer size

Did BK just call me what I think he called me?    :o
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: JoseSPiano on November 16, 2004, 09:36:18 PM
I'm back! My first posting from my new home environment. I'll keep this short and sweet. The move went well. The place is somewhat chaotic right now, but I'm beginning to see what it's going to look like. Abie is still at the kennel. I put him in during the move and was going to bring him home today -- but there is still too huge a mess. Tomorrow I'll get up VERY early and try to clean up most of the boxes, so I can pick him up by noon and not be charged for another day.
I just ate a disgustingly sweet pastry of some sort to give me some energy, but all it's done is to make me want something salty. That's about all I can manage right now. Hope everyone's well.
To be continued tomorrow.

Welcome Home, Panni!
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: S. Woody White on November 16, 2004, 09:38:12 PM
...How do you pronounce:
5.the vowel in the second syllable of "cauliflower"
The same as the "u" in "yuck."

I can't stand cauliflower.
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: S. Woody White on November 16, 2004, 09:39:08 PM
Did BK just call me what I think he called me?    :o
Post envy.   ::)
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Post by: td on November 16, 2004, 09:39:12 PM
Welcome home, Panni!  I'm looking forward to many more anecdotes from your travels!

I could've typed:  WB,P! and tried for the shortest post, too.  ;)
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Post by: JoseSPiano on November 16, 2004, 09:42:20 PM
I think very highly of Larry Grossman, especially of the song Penny mentioned, Stay With Me Nora.

When I'm playing piano and get introduced to someone, I tend to play the songs that contain their names - Laura, Tammie, etc.  Playing that one is fun, because, inevitably the Nora has never heard the song.

When I'm playing those big cattle-call type auditions (SETCs, UPTAs, NETCs, etc.), I will sometimes play one of the following as they bring each group of auditionees in:

1) "The March of the Siamese Children" from The King & I

2) The "One" vamp from A Chorus Line

or...

3) A little Chopin... from the Sonata in B-flat Minor... The slow movement... The Funeral March.

-Some people don't find the humor in the last option. ;)

...Oh, and I also have to refrain from starting the underscoring any time someone does one of the monologues from The Fantasticks.
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: Tomovoz on November 16, 2004, 10:10:21 PM
Special thanks to Emily for the song - My ears still distinguish a difference between the words!!
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: Tomovoz on November 16, 2004, 10:13:01 PM
Second listening:  Merry and Mari sound the same but Marry is different.

Quite made my day DR Emily.
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: Tomovoz on November 16, 2004, 10:19:51 PM
td:  It's all too much!
Of course there are differences more in choice of words than accents between New South Welshmen and Victorians.
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: JoseSPiano on November 16, 2004, 10:48:17 PM
Well... In the past few hours, I've washed the dishes, cleaned the microwave, cleaned the bathtub, cleaned the bathroom floor, washed and dried the bathroom rugs, cleaned some of the remaining dust in the bathroom (the rest will get cleaned tomorrow), and I've managed to burn two bags of microwave popcorn!  -Ugh!  The apartment smells... well, like burnt microwave popcorn.

At least the cleaning has started...  Tomorrow, I guess I should unpack my luggage from New York! ;)

WOW!  Just looked at the calendar.. Is Thanksgiving really next week already?!?!?!?

OK... That's enough random stuff for now...

OH!  The Classic Arts Channel is broadcasting some clips from the Firestone series featuring Howard Keel and Patrice Munsel... :)
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: JoseSPiano on November 16, 2004, 11:42:03 PM
What?!?!? No posts in almost an hour?!?!?

SKAMMEN!

;)
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: JoseSPiano on November 16, 2004, 11:43:34 PM
...And on that note... A Low "F" - like the ones you find on Bosendorfer grand pianos...

Goodnight.
Title: Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
Post by: S. Woody White on November 16, 2004, 11:50:58 PM
Sorry, been listening to John Williams cds and putzing over at another site, collecting restaurant weblinks.