Haines His Way
Haines His Way => Daily Discussions => Topic started by: bk on April 08, 2017, 12:06:44 AM
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Well, you've read the notes, the notes were wackily wacky, and now it is time for you to post until the wackily wacky cows come home.
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And the word of the day is: INVETERATE!
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First post after BK!
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Thank you for the wonderful videos.
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Thank you for the wonderful videos.
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I hope Mr. Tubbs will be in some future shows.
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"The April Fools" is one of my favorite songs of all time, and certainly my favorite Bacharach and David song.
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I'll have to watch the videos later. I NEED to go to bed now. I have to be up and out the door by 7:15 a.m., because I'm going to the secretary/treasurer training for my union. It's being held in a hotel in SeaTac and I'm riding with a couple of other board members, so I can't be late. That'll go until 4:00 p.m. or so. After that, I'll go to my parents' for our weekly family dinner together, then to the theater!
Good night and have a good day, all!
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Good night, Tom!
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Good night, George, have fun at training.
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This was Nick's second show with us and he'll definitely be back.
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Where do you find all of these singers?
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Good morning to everyone
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TOD
I used message boards. I first connected with former reader Matt Hough on one of them there whose name escape me at the moment.
Then AOL
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Good morning, all.
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Saturday! And at least a sunny day, if not very warm. Tomorrow and the next few days will definitely be feeling like spring, and it's about time.
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I love early computer/internet history, too. It was a special time.
Will respond in full when I'm not pecking on the iPad.
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Yes vuxmom finished the book. But since I am away this weekend with the hubby and only have my phone there will be no review forthcominforthcoming for at le a t a few days
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Never did see Rocky Horror the shadowcast was stil.messing around trying to figure out what they were doing at 1150 pm so we just went back to the room and w by to sleep
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Just waiting for vixdad to finish in the shower and then we) be off conventioneering
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My first computer was a Coleco Adam
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Good morning, all!
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TOD:
The first computer I used was a Radio Shack TRS80 (later called a Trash 80 because it was so lousy) in an office where I was working as a secretary. It didn't have a hard drive and they kept adding external 5 1/4" floppy disk drives to it as their database got bigger and bigger. They ended up with four floppy drives.
My first personal computer was an Acer. My dad tried to tell me I didn't need a hard drive - that a floppy disk (520k) has lots of space, but I was smart and didn't listen to him and got the 20 MB hard drive. There was no such thing as Windows then - just MS DOS.
My next computer at work was a "dumb" Hewlett Packard terminal that ran a program called HP Word, which wasn't bad. Then we all got personal computers and tried to learn Word Perfect and Lotus 1-2-3. The learning curve was very steep. There was still no Windows - everything was keystrokes, no mouse.
Then Microsoft came along and the whole world really changed.
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After I posted last night, I read through my mail and other things I'd collected yesterday - CD booklets, the new issue of Gramophone, the Come From Away Playbill - and turned off the lights around 1:15. I slept until 10:30 when Joshie's phone call woke me.
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We have to deal with Local 802 and payments for The New Yorkers. He's also juggling The Golden Apple and the April 18 IRS deadline. This morning he's assembling practice parts for some of the players before next Thursday's orchestra reading of the score.
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I need to buy a new pair of shoes.
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I have no memory now of the first computer I used at the Drama Book Shop for ordering and receiving books. My first hoe computer was a Mac, a gift from the late Dale Kugel, librarian for Tams-Witmark. I needed one in 2001 for the Packard Humanities Institute project and Dale needed a ew one, so he gave me his old Mac, with Finale installed, and my first session with a Mac Mechanic for my birthday in September 2001.
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TOD: Since I co-majored in computer science, my first computer experiences back in the 1970's were having to type out the computer program line-by-line on what were called "punch cards." We handed them in at the school's computer center and they checked if our computer program was working properly.
I think the first time I got to use an actual computer terminal in school was not until my last year of college in 1979. There was a computer center on 57th and 11th Avenue, where us programming fanatics could stay until all hours doing our assignments. (Since I happened to have a job then on East 57th Street, it was easy to go there after work.)
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I'm up, I'm up - maybe six and a half hours of sleep.
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My first board experience was right here at HHW :)
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My first computer, as mentioned, at Varese was a Compaq Presario. I hated it. That would have been around 1998, I think. However, I'd used one to rewrite a script, way back in the late 80s, and boy did I hate THAT. Then I was given Web TV - not a computer, of course, but the Internet on your TV and I had that for two years before buying my very own first computer, a Toshiba laptop (which I still have), quickly followed by a Dell laptop (which I no longer have as I stomped it to death). I had the Dell for several years before their brilliant tech department in India helped me erase the hard drive because of their ineptitude - that is when I stomped it to death (thankfully everything backed up to zip discs), and that is when I finally made the switch to Macs - a very good day.
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I believe I wrote Benjamin Kritzer on the Toshiba and the subsequent two books on the Dell. I believe Writer's Block may have been the first book on the Mac.
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Good Morning!
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As to the Internet - on Web TV I was all over the Usenet movie and theater groups - these were wild and wooly and filled with the worst kinds of trolls imaginable, in the days when anonymity could let you get away with any damn thing you wanted. It was vile and even dangerous, hence my short story about it, Your Worst Nightmare, of which every single word was based on truth, save for the very ending, although that event was also based on truth, but the drama of it was my own invention. Today, as far as I can tell, and perhaps FJL can back me up since he lived it, is Datalounge, which I consider one of the vilest places on the Internet and which I feel should either be nuked off the face of the Earth, or everyone be made to post using their own names so that they'd perhaps think before the libel and slander everyone under the sun. I feel that about any board where one is allowed to post using nicknames or fake names.
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In 6th grade, we had Commodore PET computers in the classroom. I learning to program in Basic language. Later on in high school, I bought a Commodore Vic 20 from a friend of mine. I think I had an Atari computer also after high school. I got on the Internet in 1995 on a PC, and I've never looked back... from the Internet, that is. I went total MAC in 2005 or so- and I haven't looked back from that either!!
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I once chatted with bk on IRC in the #broadway room, which is where I also met life long acquaintance, DR MarkB
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Yes, I remember that chat room on the IRC - I had several amusing experiences in various chat rooms, many of which I wrote about in One from Column A at the Stephen Sondheim Stage site that Mr. Bakalor still runs.
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I don't have a lot of time, so I'll just type this quickly and whatever comes out is what y'all get. :)
In the early 1980s our company ran on a couple of ancient 8-inch-floppy disk (yes, 8-inch) computers. They later added an Apple IIc to the arsenal, on which I eventually learned how to do basic things on the VisiCalc spreadsheet application. I thought that was the coolest thing ever, and by around 1985 I was ready to get my own computer for home. The two really popular ones for home then were Apple and Commodore, and a co-worker advised me to get the Commodore because at that time there was a lot more fun stuff to do on it, and they'd just expanded the 64 to a whopping 128 megabytes! So I did, and wiithin a few months I had a ton of programs, I'd joined a user group, and through them I eventually was inspired to get my first dialup modem and get online with a few local BBSes.
I went for the "fast" modem -- the 1200 baud instead of the 300 that most people still had -- and instantly loved the fact that I was communicating with the outside world. I soon decided to go all out and get the disk and join QuantumLink which was later to become America Online but was strictly for the Commodore platform then. That's where I experienced my first chat rooms. Jumping ahead a bit, this part is hard to believe but it wasn't until five or six years later that I was finally ready to get my first PC -- a primitive desktop Hewlett Packard 386 at Costco. (But it came with a color VGA monitor!) That machine ran best on plain old DOS, which I really loved learning about, but it eventually opened up the world of Windows (3.1?) and the various expanded implementations of America Online which was finally becoming known as AOL.
So, I was on AOL (their earlier platform, and eventually "WAOL - Windows AOL") where I worked for a while as one of the "hosts" of a help forum. I later added Prodigy to my online adventures, and then Delphi, but I never got around to trying - or rather paying for - CompuServe.
In early 1993 they were on the cusp of making the Internet a public thing, which was very very exciting to me. It took a while for local providers to come into being, but I finally got one and graduated to a zippy 14,000-baud modem. I discovered Usenet, which was a zoo, as BK describes, but I didn't spend much time on it because I was influenced by a few friends to join a NYC-based BBS called "Echo", a text-only Unix-based conferencing system that back then was quite full of cool people who loved living on this exciting edge of technology. It was modeled on The Well in the Bay Area, for anyone who was familiar with that. Echo still exists, but with very few members -- of which I am still one.
That sort of summarizes the early history, as I experienced it, and of course this is a very condensed version of even my share of it. I guess it was sometime in the early 2000s that whatever computer I had was finally halfway decent enough to really experience the online world. I'm still on Windows-based computers because I know the territory, but when this current laptop dies I'm going to a Mac to both simplify the laptop aspect of my life and to better use musical applications.
I still have the Commodore computer and all the accessories and software I'd acquired. It absolutely warms my heart to occasionally look over that stuff, and I am so glad I kept it - and in good condition - through the years. It will eventually be time to get rid of it, hopefully to someone who wants to keep it intact, because it's an amazing little museum piece in and of itself.
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I remember now that it was in early 2002 that Comcast in this area implemented digital cable service and added cable internet access. That was the game changer -- probably for me the single most significant development in the entire "second half" of my own computer history.
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When I was working at the Indiana School for the Deaf, they brought in computers for everyone in the Business Office....IBM clones....there was not much teaching done, and no dedicated programs were purchased, so mostly they just sat there....this was 1992.
In the fall of that year, I left to go work at the Society of Professional Journalists.....and learned to use an IBM computer for everything. A lot of the programs were slow - but it was nice.
I liked it so much, when a friend got a new computer and wanted to sell his old one, I bought it, for a couple of hundred dollars. It was Tandy 1500....it used 5 1/4" floppy disks and included a dot matrix printer. No Windows, but it did have a nice Word Processing Program.
I wanted to get on the internet, so in 1998, I bought my own IBM clone - with 512 mb of RAM and 3.5 inch floppy disks.
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I didn't join any sites or groups - but I did like EBAY a lot.....later on, former DR JMK pointed me in this direction and I have been here ever since.
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Saturday afternoon greetings! Today is a very social day for me. My midday was taken up with the fabulous fundraising luncheon for the local chapter of the Dolly Parton Imagination Library. Many of my women friends were there and I even won one of the five silent auction items I bid on. It's a Longaberger basket filled with gift certificates and swag from several businesses in nearby Lebanon, Ohio. One of the gift cards and a couple of swag items will be the perfect gift for our great-nephew J's second birthday next month.
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So, I'm home now regrouping before Richard and I go downtown in 3 hours for the Middletown Historical Society annual dinner. The theme this year is "Musical Middletown," celebrating the "rich history of music in Middletown." The irony is that this season is the final one for the Middletown Symphony Orchestra :'(
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Back from an omelet and a bagel and having the smog check on my car so I can get the registration renewed.
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And no check - am rather furious about it but will wait till Monday and if it's not here I will insist on a wire and they can cancel the check - it should have been a wire in the first place.
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First computer was in 1980. I would have to ask Keith what it....he just walked in. It was a TR model 3 and he loved it, but then he didn't use it at work.
A couple of years later we purchased the boys their first computer, a TI (Texas Instruments) something for children. I had been trying to get Craig to add simple numbers for me, nothing. The next day Keith came home from work and asked it I knew what Craig was doing on the computer. I did. The kid was adding and subtracting like crazy, far higher numbers than I expected, and he was only four. I loved that computer ;D
What I never imagined is that I would one day have my own computer, something I fought tooth & nail against. My first personal computer wasn't until long after we had moved to Ashland. I would say my current Dell all in one computer is the first one I have been comfortable using.
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So, out of the nearly 400 Kritzerland contributions made two years ago, we are down to 56 people who still are owed CDs. However, at least ten of the 56 and perhaps a bit more than that, are getting their final CD with Two for the Road, so that goes down to 46 - by the end of this year we'll probably be down to under 20.
Interesting factoids - one $50 contributor has managed to opt out of all nineteen releases that have occurred since the campaign closed. I've instructed the helper to inform said person that they can either choose three CDs or we will return their fifty bucks, as I don't ever want to see their opt out name again and after a year and a half it's rather inane to even care. Of all the donations I came to realize that one person and only one gamed the system and got ten extra CDs because of a loophole I didn't see - and a couple of $1,000 donations could have actually gotten the same exact perks for 500 sans baseball jacket - we're finally going to do those - only seven people get them so it's time already.
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Today, as far as I can tell, and perhaps FJL can back me up since he lived it, is Datalounge, which I consider one of the vilest places on the Internet and which I feel should either be nuked off the face of the Earth, or everyone be made to post using their own names so that they'd perhaps think before the libel and slander everyone under the sun. I feel that about any board where one is allowed to post using nicknames or fake names.
Bear with me on this, BK, It's a long explanation - but from my experience, as far as NY theater is concerned, I think All that Chat is far more dangerous than DataLounge because it has managed to maintain an air of respectability, and also, as I found, while someone could bring an action against DataLounge (and actually get a finding in my favor), Talkin Broadway had managed to make itself legal-action-proof by requiring all actions against it by users to be brought in Nevada and only in Nevada, which happens to be a state where that type of entity is protected by far more lax laws than PA (where Ann Miner clearly does the company's work but incredibly managed to convince authorities that she didn't).
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The Nevada thing was because of the other guy who owns it with her, but they've always worked out of Ann's state - and yes, I feel the same about that board because people remain anonymous - they're disgusting. Did I know you'd gotten a judgment against Datalounge? What was the result? Did they have to reveal the culprit's identity? You can e-mail me if you want that info private.
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Hello, everyone.
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I am trying to recover from several poor nights again this week. Why is it so very difficult to get a good night's sleep when you're older?
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Much impressed by John Boswell's playing.
And Nick Tubbs should be a permanent fixture.
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But how could it be that I've known BK over fifty years and NEVER knew there was a song called THE DELICATESSEN OF MY DREAMS?
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Congrats to DR Ginny on her basket win. Gift cards are very nice.
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I started my computer programming career using a DEC-System 10 and an IBM 360. The DEC-10 was a nice machine and I did mostly database design and programming on it. The 360 used the punched cards that FJL spoke of. Sooo archaic now! The two computers each had their own operating system and I was using different computer languages--a database management system called 1022 on the DEC-10 and IBM JCL on the 360. I would start my work day on the 360, submit the cards for processing, then mentally switch gears to the DEC world until my printouts were ready, then switch back to the 360 world. The two worlds were very different and I had to keep the two separate.
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I just got a rather rude VM from another Bruce that runs an online CD/LP business. I purchased something on the site that he no longer has. He offered a CDR, not tracked, not artwork for $15 and and refused to send me an email (my email address is part of my voice mail message) and if I wanted that to call him back and if I I didn't just forget it.
I've only been looking for this LP for 20+ years and I'm quite bent over the whole situation.
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My first home computer was the early Mac that I bought from a friend who was buying a new computer. Interesting that so many of us did this. For a while I switched to the PC world, because that was most of my clients had and I needed to be compatible, but I've been back in the Mac world since 2009.
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DR Matthew, did he not offer to give you your money back?
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I'm rewatching THE SYNDICATE: ALL OR NOTHING on Acorn TV. I really enjoyed the first time through and am now enjoying it again. It's a lottery story with a twist. Very good writing and very competent everything else.
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Good weekend vibes to all. I'd like to hear more about Vixmom's weekend.
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TTFN.
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DR Matthew, did he not offer to give you your money back?
Looks like he didn't charge me
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I was late to the computer world. I also had web-tv for a couple of years and finally got a Dell laptop.
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Page 3!
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Page 3?
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Nice videos, BK!
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I remember the "alt" boards. There was one dedicated to B. Streisand and the crazies took over.
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This afternoon I went to the Kennedy Center to see a show called Chicago The Musical.
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I have seen Chicago The Musical approximately 1000 times. No seriously, it must be in the 20s.
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It starred Brandy Norwood and a fellow named Barrett.
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Terra C McLeod (sp?), who has been playing Velma for many years, was out. The understudy went on and was very good.
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It's always good to see Chicago. I think it's been 2 years since I last saw it, so I had forgotten some of the dialogue.
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DR Matthew, did he not offer to give you your money back?
Looks like he didn't charge me
Good.
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DR TCB I have a friend looking to take an Alaska cruise on Norwegian Sea. Do you have an input on this ship or cruise line?
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Matthew - Bruce Yeko is fairly impossible.
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The Nevada thing was because of the other guy who owns it with her, but they've always worked out of Ann's state - and yes, I feel the same about that board because people remain anonymous - they're disgusting. Did I know you'd gotten a judgment against Datalounge? What was the result? Did they have to reveal the culprit's identity? You can e-mail me if you want that info private.
BK - It was a "probable cause" finding that DataLounge had retaliated for my filing a governmental agency complaint against them. I got the evidence file and their officers had actually had volleys of email talking about doing things like changing my posts to get back at me.
But I wasn't looking for money from DataLounge, just to get the references to my name on their site - which were popping up on google on searches - to stop, so (at my family's request) since they removed those references going back to when they started, I didn't go ahead with the public hearing that was offered, and have had two years of internet peace on their site. So at this point when my name is searched by potential employers, those stalkery posts don't come up like they did for that long period.
I emailed you the govt agency determination if you're curious.
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Lots of nice hockey games are being played tonight as teams do their best to get into the playoffs that start on Wednesday.
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I think I have everything ready for auditions tomorrow.....now if I only felt better....even a little bit.... New Doctor on Monday.
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DR TCB how is Nicky?
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Matthew - Bruce Yeko is fairly impossible.
So I've noticed. Not even an apology for his site not being updated when it was obviously his mistake.
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Matt, on the 18th, do you need to be done with us by 5, or need to start around 5?
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First computer was in 1980. I would have to ask Keith what it....he just walked in. It was a TR model 3 and he loved it, but then he didn't use it at work.
A couple of years later we purchased the boys their first computer, a TI (Texas Instruments) something for children. I had been trying to get Craig to add simple numbers for me, nothing. The next day Keith came home from work and asked it I knew what Craig was doing on the computer. I did. The kid was adding and subtracting like crazy, far higher numbers than I expected, and he was only four. I loved that computer ;D
What I never imagined is that I would one day have my own computer, something I fought tooth & nail against. My first personal computer wasn't until long after we had moved to Ashland. I would say my current Dell all in one computer is the first one I have been comfortable using.
My first computer when I was in high scool was a Texas Instruments 99/4A, with all of 16K memory! I think if you wanted to upgrade the memory storage, it would be something like $300...if I remember correctly.
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Good night, George, have fun at training.
Thanks, Tom! The training went well today. There were more questions than usual because the regular instructor was stuck back east because of too high winds. She would have been able to keep things on track more than the replacement instructor. She knew her stuff but hadn't taught the class before, so she didn't have the experience to prevent questions and comments from going on too long.
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We did get out earlier than the scheduled time, so it wasn't that bad at all. :)
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So, out of the nearly 400 Kritzerland contributions made two years ago, we are down to 56 people who still are owed CDs. However, at least ten of the 56 and perhaps a bit more than that, are getting their final CD with Two for the Road, so that goes down to 46 - by the end of this year we'll probably be down to under 20.
Interesting factoids - one $50 contributor has managed to opt out of all nineteen releases that have occurred since the campaign closed. I've instructed the helper to inform said person that they can either choose three CDs or we will return their fifty bucks, as I don't ever want to see their opt out name again and after a year and a half it's rather inane to even care. Of all the donations I came to realize that one person and only one gamed the system and got ten extra CDs because of a loophole I didn't see - and a couple of $1,000 donations could have actually gotten the same exact perks for 500 sans baseball jacket - we're finally going to do those - only seven people get them so it's time already.
Since it's all done with, can you say what the loophole was?
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I just got a rather rude VM from another Bruce that runs an online CD/LP business. I purchased something on the site that he no longer has. He offered a CDR, not tracked, not artwork for $15 and and refused to send me an email (my email address is part of my voice mail message) and if I wanted that to call him back and if I I didn't just forget it.
I've only been looking for this LP for 20+ years and I'm quite bent over the whole situation.
That happened to me too, but at least the CD-R that I got was tracked and it did have the artwork. That was even photocopied in color, but not cut very well at all, so it didn't fit the jewel box very well. :-\ I just rephotocopied it and made the artwork look better.
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Good evening.
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Yes, the rather silly loophole was that for 500 you got twenty CDs - but if you did two separate 250 donations you got thirty. I should have caught it before, frankly, but it was literally one person.
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Yes, the rather silly loophole was that for 500 you got twenty CDs - but if you did two separate 250 donations you got thirty. I should have caught it before, frankly, but it was literally one person.
Darn...I wish I had thought of that.
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Matt, on the 18th, do you need to be done with us by 5, or need to start around 5?
Done by 5:00.
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Page 4
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Page 4? Really?
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Very early page 4, at that.
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Where is everybody?
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You would think this was Saturday evening.
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Today's weather was very strange.
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They predicted rain all day today.
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But this morning, the sun was shining brightly.
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It stayed sunny until I decided to run errands.
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DR FJL, two years of Internet peace must be heavenly after what you went through.
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As soon as I started loading my scooter in the car, the rain arrived.
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Inspired by our trips up north Keith purchased tickets to Magenta Teater in downtown Vancouver. http://www.magentatheater.com
Our neighbors wanted to join us. First we went to dinner and then saw THE RAINMAKER. We had a very enjoyable evening.
The restaurant was conveniently a short walk from the theater.
We felt that the a actor playing the rainmaker was the weakest in the cast and we all liked the father the best. The woman who was Lizzy was excellent.
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Where is everybody?
Did you see my question on page 3?
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As soon as I started loading my scooter in the car, the rain arrived.
Did you still do your errands?
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And as soon as I returned home, the rain stopped.
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Figures.
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Where is everybody?
Did you see my question on page 3?
I am not familiar with that particular ship, but I have traveled on Norwegian several times.
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There cruises are normally reasonably priced, but they do tend to nickel and dime you to death on all there cruises.
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For instance, you can get steak and lobster in the main dining room, but it will cost you an additional fee, of I believe $25.00. I have never heard of a cruise line charging you anything extra in the main dining room. Food is supposed to be included.
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A lot of little things like that, but knowing that, I would probably cruise with them again if the price was right.
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The ships are nice and the staff is normally very friendly.
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Thanks for the info. I will pass it along.
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The Norwegian Sea is an older ship, that normally sails out of Galveston to the Caribbean. If the that is the correct ship, it apparently needs some upgrading, especially with the cabins.
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Where is everybody?
I'm now home after the final Saturday night performance of The Trip to Bountiful.
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We just have tomorrow's matinee, then it's done.
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Here is a page regarding the Sea.
http://www.miamibeach411.com/cruiseguide/norwegian-sea-cruise-ship.htm
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Tom, Jed and Ann came to see the show tonight! I was able to chat with them for a moment after the show.
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As soon as I started loading my scooter in the car, the rain arrived.
Did you still do your errands?
Some of them. The rest I will do tomorrow when it is supposed to be sunny.
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Thank you.
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Well, what're we waiting for??
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Page 5
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PAGE FIVE DANCE!!
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I still have corrections to input into the book, and my taxes that I need to do.
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Someone asked how Nicky was doing. Nicky seems to be doing fine, especially now that he has figured out that I am not going away again.
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The section of our road is a quiet street with a nice grassy, tree lined divider. Tonight there was a car that had gone up the divider and crashed into a tree. The group of young adults said they were fine and help was on the way so we came home. They had to have been on the wrong side of the road when they crashed, and we probably should have gotten the car license.
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He was probably the only one that was glad that we were not going to Nationals.
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Someone asked how Nicky was doing. Nicky seems to be doing fine, especially now that he has figured out that I am not going away again.
😊
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I need to take my pain pills and change computers.
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I will be right back.
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Tom, Jed and Ann came to see the show tonight! I was able to chat with them for a moment after the show.
I'm glad you got to see Jed and Ann. Jed and Deya are very good friends.
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Oh, I am back.
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What role does Deya play in the show?
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Tom, Jed and Ann came to see the show tonight! I was able to chat with them for a moment after the show.
I'm glad you got to see Jed and Ann. Jed and Deya are very good friends.
They said that they also knew the actress who played Thelma, the young woman on the bus.
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What role does Deya play in the show?
She plays Jessie Mae, the daughter-in-law.
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Who is the actress who plays Thelma?
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Who is the actress who plays Thelma?
Stephanie...I think. I don't have a program here at home and I haven't gotten to know her at all.