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Title: SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: bk on December 19, 2004, 11:59:47 PM
Well, you've read the notes, you've been blown, snown and mistletoen by the notes, and now it is time for you to post until the snowy blowy cows come home (and they'd better get here quick so the eight maids a'milking can do their thing).
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: JoseSPiano on December 20, 2004, 12:21:45 AM
I would like to be the First Post!!!
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: bk on December 20, 2004, 12:25:42 AM
And so you are.  Which is better than the people who read the notes and then log off without so much as a how-do-you-do.  
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: JoseSPiano on December 20, 2004, 12:26:50 AM
;)

Actually, my dream gift would be a Steinway Grand Piano - preferably a "D", but I'd also take a very nice "B" too.  Oh, and I'd actually prefer one of the ones made in Germany.  I once played on a German-made Steinway Upright that was simply amazing!  It felt good, it sounded very good.  Of course, if I ever did get a Steinway "D", I'd have to have a personal concert hall in which to store it and in which to play it.

Otherwise, what would make me really happy right now would be a key to a new apartment in New York City.  ;)

But, practically speaking, a new laptop would be very nice.  -I'd even consider a Mac!  I don't need anything fancy, just as long as it was wireless-ready and had Microsoft Word and AOL - or some other internet service on it... I'd be happy.
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: Tomovoz on December 20, 2004, 12:30:56 AM
Saving for for the holiday has always been a part of the joy of an extended trip overseas for me. Now that I am no longer working, a first class (or at least business class) around the world airfare would be wonderful. I would really like to meet friends I have through this site in particular. The opportunity afforded by my free fare would give the time to really spend time with a some wonderful people without the need to rush rush rush.
Can't think of material things I would like to have. An endless supply of CDs and DVDs would be a problem as I am already way behind in my viewing and listening as it is.
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: Tomovoz on December 20, 2004, 12:35:01 AM
A good time to count one's blessings. A friend is being admitted to hospital tomorrow for more tests. He received a lung transplant (both lungs) last year but is having more problems. The orginal transplant was due to life threatening battles with asthma. My prayers are with him. It certainly puts my own recent health issues into perspective.
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: JoseSPiano on December 20, 2004, 12:36:29 AM
Catching up from yesterday:

DR Jennifer asked:
"Can anyone tell me some good places to buy laptops online.  It's a gift.  ANd all I know is it needs to have 512 MB ram, Windows HP professional, and celeron wireless monitor.  Is this even possible for under $500."

I'm assuming you mean Windows XP Professional... Which I can tell you right now will run you close to your $500 "limit" just for the program alone.  -Although, lots of resellers will sell it for less.

You can find "cheap" laptops, but it does take some work.

My best advice to you would be to look up the 800-numbers for places like Dell, Compaq/HP, Gateway, etc., on their websites, and then give them a call and tell them what you need, and see how "bare bones" a system they can sell you.  So many things come bundled together nowadays, that it can be hard to find just the basics.  *And since you're looking for WinXP-Pro, that will most likely add some $$$ to your final cost.  Do "you" only need need the operating system, WinXP-Pro, and not any programs (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, etc.)?  There is also Microsoft Office - Professional Edition which includes all the basic programs (Word, Excel, etc.), but that will cost you some buckaroos too.
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: bk on December 20, 2004, 12:38:10 AM
My best gift would be a sale of Writer's Block to the movies.

Has Ann caught up yet?
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: bk on December 20, 2004, 12:38:24 AM
We'll stay all night and we'll sing 'em all.
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: George on December 20, 2004, 12:45:58 AM
And so you are.  Which is better than the people who read the notes and then log off without so much as a how-do-you-do.

How-do-you-do!  There...I've how-do-you-do'd.

I'm going to think about the Topic of the Day.  After I think about it, I'll try to come up with an answer.  But it'll be later in the day than now.  Now I must sleep.  Good night all. :)
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: JoseSPiano on December 20, 2004, 12:53:47 AM
Well... What does one do when one is still up in the wee small hours of the morning?  Well, one starts looking up reviews on the web... So...

I won't really comment, except to say the headline made me laugh... And that's all I'll post - you can look up the full review for yourself if you like.

From today's Washington Post:

Artificial Resuscitation
1967's 'Hallelujah, Baby!' Barely Revives
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: JoseSPiano on December 20, 2004, 12:59:27 AM
And speaking of revivals/revisals...

I, too, have begun to wonder exactly what groups like "Reprise!" and "Encores" having been doing to the "classic musicals" that they produce.  -Especially with Encores...

So much time is supposedly spent researching the original production - going back to the original script, find the original orchestrations (or have them masterfully reconstructed), etc... And then when it comes time to present the "original show", what ends up on stage is far from the original.

I haven't seen too many of the Encores presentation, but wasn't their original goal to present the "original shows" in concert form?  Now it just seems like everyone of their presentations has to have some sort of "hook" to make it a possibility for a transfer to Broadway.

Am I wrong in this assumption?

And just what exactly is wrong with "period pieces"?
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: JoseSPiano on December 20, 2004, 01:00:42 AM
DR Tomovoz - Best of Vibes to your friend.
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: JoseSPiano on December 20, 2004, 01:03:27 AM
-WOW!  I didn't realize I had crossed the 3,000 posts threshhold in the past few days!

:D
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: JoseSPiano on December 20, 2004, 01:11:25 AM
OH!  And one other thing I've been meaning to mention...

One of the goodies that my father received while he was in the hospital was an "Exquisit-Stollen".  Yes, it's looks like any other "stollen", but what makes it "exquisit" are it's dual fillings of marzipan and hazelnut cream.  YUMMY!!!

-And a nice slice with some tea makes a perfect post-show snack.  ;)
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: JoseSPiano on December 20, 2004, 01:12:43 AM
I see DR Panni...  Hmmm...

Well, something tells me I'll be sleeping in again tomorrow morning/today...  So...

Goodnight.
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: Michael on December 20, 2004, 03:14:24 AM
Well regarding my late yesterday note questions, I know Mr. BK's writing habits, but was hoping to hear from some of the others and  see what their habits are.
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: Tomovoz on December 20, 2004, 03:20:52 AM
DR Tomovoz - Best of Vibes to your friend.
Thank you. He is a good man.
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: DERBRUCER on December 20, 2004, 05:23:45 AM
Speaking of SNOWY AND BLOWY:

as soon as my hands thaw out from feeding the gadzillion birds scratching throw the new laid snow aroun my "Zoo" tree I'll try to take pictures of SWWs beloved "white grass" - one AM and he comes prancing into my room with a handful of snow!

The first sight on looking out my bedroom window this morning was a brilliant red Cardinal hopping thru the snow - with an entourage of 25 or so sparrows!

der Brucer
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: td on December 20, 2004, 05:30:12 AM
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Best Vibes to DR tomovoz' friend ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

As for a personal gift, that's just for me, that I want at this very moment:
The Complete (composer's) Songbook series boxed set of Miss Ella Fitzgerald, I suppose would make a nice start.

My question to DRs (and to BK, too) in relation to TOD, how many of us use the "Wish List" option on sites such as deepdiscountdvd and amazon and such?  (I do).  Fortunately several of my friends do as well, so I usually know what I might buy them for Christmas, birthdays or just plain old gift-giving.
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: DearReaderLaura on December 20, 2004, 05:32:38 AM
Good morning, fellow dear readers.

Although I very much like my simple '98 Corolla, I would love to have a brand new Lexus with power everything. Although I suppose that if my DH bought one for me, I'd be helping to pay for it.  And I don't want that kind of debt.

So I'll just say I'd like to have my travel privileges -- which I have.
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on December 20, 2004, 05:34:27 AM
~~~~~~~~~~~
Vibes to DR Tom's friend.

A friend is truly a wonderful gift.
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: elmore3003 on December 20, 2004, 05:41:23 AM
Good morning, all!  I'm still pondering the finish of my shopping, so the TOD will have to wait.  With this current ear infection, my health since July, and a doctor imposed on me by my HMO, a fantastic health insurance policy would be today's choice, but after shopping, I might just want a personal sherpa.  Then, again, both problems might be solved by limitless money.  But a lot of money can lead to other problems, so maybe I want to be King of the World and everyone else can deal with my problems.  It's all like the House that Jack built.  There's always greener grass out there.

So, I'll think a bit more before I decide.

Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: Panni on December 20, 2004, 06:14:29 AM
Good morning. Sorry I disappeared before saying hello, Jose. I didn't see you post on the marizipan stollen. Yum.

Michael Shayne - I'll recheck your post later and see what the writing habits question is and try to answer.
Right now I'm getting ready for an early morning walk with our very own DR Jane!
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: MBarnum on December 20, 2004, 07:23:01 AM
Hmmm...Christmas present! A personally autographed photo of June Kenney followed by her saying she would love to be interviewed by me!!
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: bk on December 20, 2004, 07:28:44 AM
Ditto Leslie Parrish for me.  Dear readers Panni and Jane are supposedly walking over here so I can see dear reader Jane and take a walk with them.  See Jane walk.  
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: DearReaderLaura on December 20, 2004, 07:49:26 AM
If DR Jane is still in town on Wednesday morning, maybe she and Panni and Jay and BK and Sandra and I can all get together for pancakes.
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: Stuart on December 20, 2004, 07:51:28 AM
TOD:  A belated Chanukah present that I would relish.....Hmmm......p'raps some new kitchen gadgets.....  a CD shopping spree (and NOT the kind that you get on 11th or 12th Avenues!).  I know there is other stuff as well, but nothing that comes to mind right now.

Yesterday was the Pittsford Musicals Caroling/Holiday Bash.  The group went caroling at  a couple of area nursing homes....then we volunteered to host the "after-party."  This means that we started our Christmas cookie baking a few days earlier than we would have ordinarily.  For the event, the DP did Peanut Butter, Chocolate Chip and a small tray of brownies.  We collaborated on cut-outs.  My cookie-of-the-year was lace florentines...some filled with dark chocolate, some filled with white chocolate.  We supplied some other savories as well....

But the thing that went over really big was a vat-ful of home made hot cocoa, with freshly made whipped cream.  It's odd to think that some people (a slight GYPSY reference) can't muster up enough energy to stick a hand mixer into a bowl with cream poured into it, and wait the 3 minutes until it is whipped.  You'd have thunk I had done some amazing feat of culinary aptitude.....  But the huzzahs for the cocoa and cookies were pleasing....
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Post by: JoseSPiano on December 20, 2004, 07:54:12 AM
Good Morning!

Today's "alarm clock" is brought to you by Dear Old Mom:

"Get up! Make your father something for breakfast!"

So... Around 8:20 this morning, I headed down to the kitchen...  And made pancakes.  -I was hoping to make something else, but my parents' current stash of food in the fridge is not breakfast-friendly.  I'll be heading out to the grocery store later on to stock things properly.

*I also ended up getting on a cleaning and sorting binge...  Just how many expired packages of bacon, jars of mayonnaise and other assorted condiments can one family have in their fridge?!?!?  -Mind you, both my parents are in the food service industry.  Oh, and then there were the two crushed(!) cartons of eggs that were sitting on the bottom shelf.  -And I'm still trying to figure out just why my Mom continually throws half-gone tomatoes into the freezer...

???

But the dishes are washed, the floor vacuumed and the counters wiped down.  I even went ahead and sorted out the various fruit baskets.

...Something tells me I'll be taking a nap sometime this afternoon before heading in for tonight's show...

Oh, and my father is doing fine this morning too!  Let's just say he's very happy with his "mobility" this morning.  Always a good sign of a good recovery!
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: vixmom on December 20, 2004, 07:57:09 AM
Good morning all. The computer ban at home has been lifted as the software DH is trying to install for my Christmas present (a video editor to convert my videos to DVD) refuses ti install properly and the DVD burmer is apparently producing rubbish ,  So it looks as if the Christmas present I wanted won't be around.  I haven't looked in since Friday afternoon so I am off to peruse the musings of the weekend.

good health vibes to DR Ann , DR Jose's dad , DER Elmore and Dr Tomofoz's friend



 
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: JoseSPiano on December 20, 2004, 07:57:54 AM
Good morning. Sorry I disappeared before saying hello, Jose. I didn't see you post on the marizipan stollen. Yum.


Ce ne fait rien...

-And I believe there's one slice left in the package... Hmm...
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Post by: JoseSPiano on December 20, 2004, 08:01:08 AM
PAGE TWO DANCE!!!

(http://polka-store.com/christmas/fs3-buttonboxchristmas.jpg)

THE CHRISTMAS POLKA!!!!


*Actually, I have the sheet music to that somewhere.  And I believe it's an "original" - lovely old-timey graphic on the cover.
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: JoseSPiano on December 20, 2004, 08:25:01 AM
...Now playing... Roberto Alagna's "Bel Canto" CD... Hmm... Another CD I bought a year or two, but am finally listening to now...  Hmmm...

Some of the singing is very nice, but some of it also comes across as barking.  But I guess that's his way of sounding "virile and commanding" on this album.  -And I still don't like the way his wife, Angela Gheorghiu, sounds on record from time to time.  I've heard her live, and her voice is not as "white" in person as it is on record.

And the liner notes also provide some interesting entertainment:

"In the perilous range, the voice becomes more clear and limpid.  The accompaniment lightens, giving pride of place to vocal prowess."

"Clear diction is of the essence, and for the gourmets, a final high D flat is the cherry on the cake."

..and my personal favorite:

"Then the memory of lost love demands that the interpreter sing legatissimo, in a moving, nostalgic way - and this in a difficult tessitura.  My regular record producer David Groves and I found it hard to choose between the three versions available to us: one pianissimo and very light, another more heroic though very impressive, and finally this one, more measured, a happy medium between the other two."

-My question is: Why not just offer all three versions on the disc then?

;)
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: JoseSPiano on December 20, 2004, 08:35:53 AM
Oh!  And the wind today!  The Wind!

There have been some sustained gusts every now and then.  And very strong too!  The kind that start making the windows rattle... and the roof creak a little bit...

Thankfully, no flying dogs, girls on bicycles, witches or monkeys in sight.
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: bk on December 20, 2004, 08:38:26 AM
Dear Jane is leaving today in the early afternoon.  We had a lovely walk around the neighborhood, and actually saw the most interesting house, which, for some reason, I'd never seen before.  So interesting that I'm going to take my camera over there so you can see it.
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: Matt H. on December 20, 2004, 08:44:29 AM
I'd like a new Toshiba 52" DLP high definition television. The only reason I haven't bought it for myself is that there's not a thing wrong with my 42' HDTV I'm now using, and it would seem to be just a foolish expenditure since my set works just fine and has a gorgeous picture.
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: Matt H. on December 20, 2004, 08:46:47 AM
The only revisal I've seen that I thought worked wonderfully well was the new CABARET. I saw the original on Broadway, and the new version worked as well in the 1990s as the original worked in the 1960s. And I prefer the changes they've made to the new version even if Cliff had to lose that gorgeous "Why Should I Wake Up?"
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: Matt H. on December 20, 2004, 08:50:09 AM
On the question of the dubber for Dorothy Dandridge in PORGY AND BESS, it was Adele Addison.

My soundtrack CD of CARMEN JONES identifies Marilyn Horne as the vocalist. There was no attempt to hide the fact that Dandridge wasn't doing her own singing.
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: JMK on December 20, 2004, 09:01:47 AM
I just saw Carmen Jones for the first time a few weeks ago.  Isn't Belafonte dubbed, too, at least in the more operatic sections?

Re:  gift.  I would like a production of Starcrossed done at an Equity theater in an exotic locale with my favorite actress playing Frances and perhaps with a relative of Frances directing.  Wait.....I think maybe I might be receiving that gift!!  Stay tuned....
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Post by: bk on December 20, 2004, 09:07:19 AM
I'm already hungry, yet I am saving myself for dinner, which won't be until seven.
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Post by: Panni on December 20, 2004, 09:11:17 AM
Back from Part Deux of The Walk. After leaving bk at his house, (and it was fun listening to Jane and bk talking of shared memories of their teen years) DR Jane and I walked briskly back to my place, chatting up a storm. We dished, we dashed, we pranced bigtime. It was splendid.
I then got in her rental car with DR Jane (parked in front of chez moi) and rode with her for a couple of blocks to make sure she was on the right road back to her friends' place - after which I walked briskly back home. Good exercise!
And yes, the house bk is talking about is wonderously bizarre. I'm looking forward to the pics.
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: JMK on December 20, 2004, 09:11:59 AM
I'm already hungry, yet I am saving myself for dinner, which won't be until seven.

Self-cannibalism is so festive.   :o
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: JMK on December 20, 2004, 09:13:42 AM
Speaking of bizarre houses, have any of you Angelinos seen Audrey Geisel's (Mrs. Dr. Seuss) house in West (IIRC) Hollywood?  It is this bizarre black stucco thing that looks like it came out of a Flinstones episode.
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: Matt H. on December 20, 2004, 09:15:43 AM
I just saw Carmen Jones for the first time a few weeks ago.  Isn't Belafonte dubbed, too, at least in the more operatic sections?


Yep, his dubber is LeVern Hutcherson. And Diahann Carroll didn't do her own singing either. Her dubber is Bernice Peterson.
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: DERBRUCER on December 20, 2004, 09:17:47 AM
Oh!  And the wind today!  The Wind!


BK visted a Wind Friend, Maria, yesterday.
Does you Wind have a name?

(don't, people, don't!)

der Brucer

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Post by: DERBRUCER on December 20, 2004, 09:19:34 AM
Self-cannibalism is so festive.   :o

Well played!

Take a bow!

der Brucer
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: Matt H. on December 20, 2004, 09:20:05 AM
I usually eat lunch with a friend on Monday, but he called a little while ago to say we couldn't do it today. Ah, me, and me with nothing thawed from my freezer. So, I took out some frozen ground beef for spaghetti sauce and will now have to wait all day for it to thaw. I'll be eating much later today than I normally do, so I'll be having a snack at some point this afternoon.
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Post by: DERBRUCER on December 20, 2004, 09:23:32 AM
Not exactly what I hoped for, but:

(http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL242/891350/5911570/77232971.jpg)

(http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL242/891350/5911570/77232967.jpg)

(http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL242/891350/5911570/77232962.jpg)

(http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL242/891350/5911570/77232965.jpg)

::note to self: invite Jose for window washing-party::
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Post by: Jrand74 on December 20, 2004, 09:33:18 AM
Lovely photos of Les petites ouisioux.

Looking forward to the photos of the unusual house.

I like the WAGON score very much.  "I Was Born Under a Wandrin' Star" is very poetic.  I even like the movie a bit.  

"You was down at the creek bare beam and buck nekkid at eight a.m. this morning?"

"Well would you rather I be down at the creek bare beam and buck nekkid at high noon?"

DR JMK this is wonderful and astonishing news, you must keep us informed!  And maybe the author will let you video tape....LOL.

Tom Turkey went away but he came back home!

My gift would be similar the DRMATT's request.  I don't have widescreen or HDTV - and it would be nice to have.  I love watching movies and DVD's and the technology of the hardware probably should match the technology of the software.  :)
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Post by: MBarnum on December 20, 2004, 09:37:56 AM
Yes, a really nice, big plasma HD TV would be a most wonderful Christmas present!!! That would be my other choice!!  ;D
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: Panni on December 20, 2004, 09:38:02 AM
A gift to warm the cockles of my heart...  Well, I love old toys, even faux old toys. Robots, merry-go-rounds, rocket ships, dogs with blinking eyes and curly tails. So I guess something like that would make me smile. (Although I own all of the above.)
Happily, I can't think of anything I've really been lusting after. What makes me enjoy a gift is when I know the giver has really put some effort and thought into finding just the right thing for me, rather than some generic present that may have cost a lot but has no particular signifcance.

Oh, if no toys are available, I could settle for a first class ticket to London or New York with accomodations at a marvy hotel and tickets (perfect seats, of course) to 5 or 6 excellent plays/musicals. I just hope I don't get two of those this year. It's a bitch having to return.
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Post by: DERBRUCER on December 20, 2004, 09:43:35 AM
.. I could settle for a first class ticket to London or New York with accomodations at a marvy hotel and tickets (perfect seats, of course) to 5 or 6 excellent plays/musicals. I just hope I don't get two of those this year. It's a bitch having to return.

Silly girl, don't return, go twice!

der "always does anything twice" Brucer

Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: Ginny on December 20, 2004, 09:49:50 AM
Greetings from cold SW Ohio - when I logged into my favorite Cincinnati radio station (WGUC) on my compter just now, Naomi said, "Temperature is all the way up to 13! (F).

Health vibes to Ann, Jose's dad, elmore, and anyone else who's mentioned feeling poorly in the last few days.  Note to elmore from Doctor Lucy - cover those ears when you're out and about!

Safe travels to Jane (I've missed your posts!) and others who are going "over the river and through the woods" this week.

Christmas preparations are in full gear at our house and I realized this morning that this is the first holiday season in 20 years that I've worked full time.  No wonder I'm stressed and haven't had much time to chat with you lately.

TOD - I'd really like a pied-a-terre in Manhattan that I could use for more frequent stays in the city.  My week there this past October, during which I spent time with Elmore and other friends, saw 3 shows, and had a delightful entire day at the Metropolitan Museum of Art is hard to get out of my system.  
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: bk on December 20, 2004, 09:57:56 AM
Okay, here is the wacky but oddly endearing house.  Not sure what order these will appear in, but here is, I think, the front of the house.
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: bk on December 20, 2004, 09:59:00 AM
This is all hand-designed mosaics and tiles.  Here's a strange thing located near the sidewalk.
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: DERBRUCER on December 20, 2004, 09:59:16 AM
Nice for an evening stroll, what?

(http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2004-12/15492947.jpg)
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Post by: bk on December 20, 2004, 09:59:38 AM
And now, some assorted views:
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Post by: bk on December 20, 2004, 10:00:11 AM
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Post by: Jennifer on December 20, 2004, 10:00:26 AM
Amazon.com venting time for me.

Why is it they always seem to have technical glitches whenever I order from them?

This current "situation" is actually sort of funny.

I ordered a gift on dec 14th.  It said the latest it would ship out was dec 19th and that it would arrive dec 22-24 (it was guaranteed for xmas).

Anyhow on dec 15 or 16 it goes into preparing to ship mode.  So I am happy because now I know the shipment will definitely arrive in time for xmas.

But it stays in "prepare to ship" mode wed-thurs-fri-sat-sun.  Anyhow by Friday I knew something was wrong.  Because I've bought from the amazons a lot.  And I know things go out the same day when they are being prepared.

So i write an email.

OMG, i hate form email responses, since they never answer my questions.  

They say my order is preparing to ship.

Wow, they are geniuses.  They saw the same written note in my account i saw.

Second email. I explain how many days my item has been preparing to ship and that something is wrong.

I get some blah answer.

Third email, I ask them to forward the message directly to the supervisor telling them it is now past dec 19th and item if shipped then would only arrive dec 22-24.

(oh btw, the 2nd lovely email response told me to contact them again if i didn't get a shipping confirmation by dec 25th). Gee they are bright.

Third response was a good one.  They told me there was a technical glitch. Only problem is this glitch won't allow them to cancel my first order.

But because it is the holidays and because they know their service has sucked. They said they are sending out another shipment today 1 day delivery.

Okay fine.

So i go into my account to see. And the original order shipped today (although it still may only get there dec 24th).

But now i see 3 additional orders (four in total) all for the same item. One says it is going out today, one says tomorrow.

OMG, what did this person do???  My poor friend is gonna get 4 huge comforters for his daughter for xmas.

I am so not amused. :)

Oy. So i emailed again.  Can't wait to see what they say.
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Post by: bk on December 20, 2004, 10:00:53 AM
And another
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Post by: bk on December 20, 2004, 10:04:05 AM
Again
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Post by: Jennifer on December 20, 2004, 10:14:25 AM
OMG it is so cold here. I think it's like -30C or something ridiculous.  I had to tape up my bedroom windows, cause my room was freezing!

Thanks to DRs Jose and Der Brucer.  I truly appreciate your help.

Here is one link for a computer (that I was given by the person who wants the computer).

This one is not a laptop, but supposedly has all the requirements.  I just do not know how to go about finding similar models on other sites.

http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/features.aspx/featured_dp_desktop1_1?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: Jrand74 on December 20, 2004, 10:15:42 AM
DR JENNIFER it is a nightmare.  I had a PLEASANT experience with Amazon.com this year that I have written about previously.  They will take care of it....eventually.  But like you, I HATE those automated emails and ways to respond.  But someone there DOES read them!

Wow!  What a house!  It almost looks like the work of the late Tony Duquette - I wonder if a friend of his lives in the area?!
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Post by: Jrand74 on December 20, 2004, 10:17:12 AM
DR JENNIFER - it might be a long shot - but you might type "laptops" in at www.epinions.com

Consumers give opinions about electronics they have bought, and usually dealers are listed along with the different computers.  It's free and you don't have to join to read the "reviews".
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Post by: Jrand74 on December 20, 2004, 10:19:26 AM
Wow - under Electronics at Epinions there are 117 products listed.  Good luck!
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Post by: MBarnum on December 20, 2004, 10:19:31 AM
That is some kind of strange house, BK.
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Post by: bk on December 20, 2004, 10:19:43 AM
Note the gas pump
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Post by: bk on December 20, 2004, 10:20:52 AM
Another
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Post by: Jennifer on December 20, 2004, 10:26:01 AM
DR Jrand, yes the automated responses drive me nuts.  I mean it is one thing if they answer the question. But they never do.  And I am a very demanding customer.

I even wrote "please do not send me a form letter" but it did not work.

The thing is some of the people reading the emails we send must be stupid.  I mean sometimes their answers are so dumb!

And yes, they will fix this.  They already started to (by sending out an additional same shipment by 1 day courier).

I'm just afraid my friend will get 4 packages.  And while he can just write "refuse shipment" on them, it is still a pain for him.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on December 20, 2004, 10:28:05 AM
BK - Did you happen to notice if the house might "light up" at night during this holiday season?
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Post by: Jennifer on December 20, 2004, 10:30:14 AM
re: the house

Are those things for Xmas or are they there year-round?
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Post by: bk on December 20, 2004, 10:36:45 AM
I don't think they have anything to do with xmas.  I'll try to drive by it tonight to see if it lights up, although I didn't see any bulbs or anything that would lead one to believe it would light up.
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Post by: bk on December 20, 2004, 10:38:24 AM
It's very peculiar - I feel I should be writing away, but I have decided not to write any more this year - to start fresh for the new year.  I have made a couple of decisions regarding the two projects, which I'll share with you at that time.  But, I keep wanting to open the documents and do something.  The only thing I will start doing during the next two weeks is to begin writing an article on Li'l Abner for Scarlet Street.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on December 20, 2004, 10:38:35 AM
Good Afternoon!

Dogs let out...
Dogs fed...
Father fed...
(He let himself out...) ;)

My nephew, John Michael, is over now while his mom is finishing up her Christmas shopping.  While eating lunch, he commented that he was "hypnotized" by the big cup of Coca-Cola that his mother had bought from Taco Bell.  Hmm...  After some creative bargaining, he eventually did eat some lunch... Chicken soup.  -He didn't like the "salad" in his burrito.

So, now he's playing a computer game...

And I'm about ready for a nap...
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Post by: DERBRUCER on December 20, 2004, 10:46:30 AM
For the friend who needs for nothing:
(http://www.goodfortunes.com/media/images/gig_pix.jpg)

A One Pound Foturne Cookie!
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..the ONLY gigantic hand-dipped fortune cookie measuring over 11" in circumference and weighing just under 1 pound. Our gigantic fortune cookies are personalized to say anything you want in a BIG, BIG way! It's a gift and a greeting card all in one! Inside we'll insert your own personalized message - up to 10 sentences long!

Order from Good Fortunes (http://www.goodfortunes.com/gigantic.asp)

And, gee whiz, they are only $26.50 (and a mere $18.50 delivery charge!)

der Brucer



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Post by: JoseSPiano on December 20, 2004, 10:51:52 AM
For the friend who needs for nothing:
(http://www.goodfortunes.com/media/images/gig_pix.jpg)

A One Pound Foturne Cookie!Order from Good Fortunes (http://www.goodfortunes.com/gigantic.asp)

And, gee whiz, they are only $26.50 (and a mere $18.50 delivery charge!)

der Brucer

They're actually quite good.  And the $18.50 charge is for overnight delivery since they include a chill-pack to keep the chocolate from melting.

;)

There are few other fortune cookie companies out there...

:D
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Post by: DERBRUCER on December 20, 2004, 10:52:45 AM
A curious mind want's to know:
(http://www.aoloutlets.com/images/product/301025/3010250997_LG.jpg)

Luigi Bormioli "Van Gogh" 64-oz. Pitcher

Is it called a "Van Gogh" 'cause you can get EARly delivery?

der (that's one hellofa martini) Brucer
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: DERBRUCER on December 20, 2004, 10:59:35 AM
My entry for the Xmas Tacky Parade:
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Tacky tree museum a holiday treat

BREVARD, North Carolina (AP) -- The guest book was blank on a recent morning at the world's only museum for aluminum Christmas trees.

It was impossible to tell whether no one had been visiting -- or if visitors were simply ashamed to admit having stopped at a shrine to holiday tackiness.

What began as a joke in 1991, with a single shiny tree retrieved from the trash, has become an obsession for curator Stephen Paul Jackson. The affable 48-year-old home designer confesses to fond feelings for his collection of eversilver trees.

Jackson struggles to keep a straight face as he recites the full name of his museum: The Aluminum Tree and Aesthetically Challenged Seasonal Ornament Museum and Research Center, or ATOM for short.

The "Elvis Tree" has photos of the King hanging from its branches. The "Toilet Tree" has copper-colored floats for ornaments and is adorned with strands of pink, yellow and blue shower curtain connectors. The tree skirt is a toilet seat cover, and there's a matching knitted cover for a spare role of TP.

The museum also features a silver-belled "Bing Crosby Tree" and a blue-limbed "Frank Sinatra Tree" that pays tribute to Ol' Blue Eyes.

One tree sports pink flamingo ornaments, while another, sent from Australia features koala bear and kangaroo ornaments.

The "Election Bush" has a political theme, and was particularly popular four years ago, during the Florida recount, Jackson said: "We decorated it with swinging chads."

The peak of holiday season tackiness may be Jackson's "Tammy Faye Tree," complete with one-time televangelist Tammy Faye Bakker's signature false eyelashes, a pair of pink high heels and ornaments from Heritage USA, the Christian theme park near Charlotte that she and then-husband Jim Bakker operated in the late 1980s.

(Above extracted from CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2004/TRAVEL/DESTINATIONS/12/17/tacky.trees.ap/index.html))

der Brucer

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Post by: TCB on December 20, 2004, 11:03:27 AM
DR Jay said:

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The Messiah was quite nicely done.  The Los Angeles Master Chorale is a very accomplished ensemble, and their contribution to the evening was the highlight, though the four soloists and the Pasadena Symphony were quite strong as well…………


I have tried sitting through The Messiah several times, but I just can’t seem to get a Handel on it.



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Post by: JoseSPiano on December 20, 2004, 11:12:56 AM
A curious mind want's to know:
(http://www.aoloutlets.com/images/product/301025/3010250997_LG.jpg)

Luigi Bormioli "Van Gogh" 64-oz. Pitcher

Is it called a "Van Gogh" 'cause you can get EARly delivery?

der (that's one hellofa martini) Brucer


Actually, to my eyes, it looks like the pitcher has one "ear".

Of course, if it was just called "Luigi's Pitcher", it wouldn't cost as much.

;)
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Post by: elmore3003 on December 20, 2004, 11:26:48 AM

I have tried sitting through The Messiah several times, but I just can’t seem to get a Handel on it.


GET THE HOOK!!!!!!

Dear Friend BK, all that house is missing is a toilet on the lawn and a fiddler on the roof.  Loved the photos!
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Post by: George on December 20, 2004, 11:46:55 AM
Jennifer, that's horrible what Amazon.com is doing!  Fortunately, I've never had any problem like that with them.  GOOD LUCK!

BK, those are some pretty interesting works of "art!"  I wonder if the current owner(s) made them or if they bought the house that way.

As to the Topic of the Day:  There are so many things that I'd love to have...a limitless credit card that I never have to pay; a big, giant widescreen TV; etc., etc., etc. (a K&I reference).  Otherwise, I'd really want DVDs of shows that were shown on TV but are not commercially available.  I'd LOVE to have (among others):

Ain't Misbehavin' (I have a copy of a copy of a copy of a videotape)
Pacific Overtures (shown only in Japan...I have a copy of a copy of a copy of a videotape of this one, also)
Pump Boys and Dinettes (does anyone else remember seeing this on TV?)
Romance, Romance
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Post by: Jrand74 on December 20, 2004, 11:52:09 AM
DR GEORGE I saw PB/Dinettes on television, but I sure can't remember the circumstances....whew!  But it must have been before I had a VCR.
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Post by: Jennifer on December 20, 2004, 12:14:26 PM
DR George, re: amazon.

Well it's not good, but today it's not too bad.  The only thing is the person who expedited my parcel did so 3 times.  There are clearly 4 different parcels at zero charge that are "preparing to ship".  Which means THEY CANNOT undo them.

So basically it looks like 4 packages will be going out.  2 day and probably 2 tomorrow.

And with 3 of them at expedited prices (charged to amazon) it seems like they will be paying quite a price for their little mistake.  The price they charge for 1 day shipping is $23.  So times 3 adds up.

I actually cannot wait to see what response I get next.  Hopefully for them it's just a glitch and they didn't actually send out 4 packages.  

Hmmm, I prefer instead of an apology if they give out $5 or $10 coupons.  But they haven't done so this time (how sad that this has happened before).
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Post by: Jennifer on December 20, 2004, 12:20:38 PM
Well I think I have wrapped all my gifts.  And my mom's gifts.  And my uncle's gifts.

My mom told him I'd wrap his gifts (which I don't mind).

Did the tree trimming and the cookie baking at my aunt's house yesterday.  She made these really bizarre cookies called Greatest Cookie Ever (or something like that).  Actually I think it was ultimate cookie.

They were good. But they had too many ingredients.  I like skittle pieces and chocolate chips.  It had corn flakes and oats.  But it also had raisins.  I don't like those in my cookies (and neither did my sis or her husband).

My aunt kept telling us we liked these cookies last year.  But we both knew that we hadn't tried them (especially if they had raisins, which my sis hates period).
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Post by: JMK on December 20, 2004, 12:26:45 PM
Well here's a little trivia for you that I was unaware of (I am of course prepared to hear from each and every one of you that this is one of the fundamental pieces of knowledge shared by all other human beings  :P):

I just got a bunch of old Playbills, including Saroyan's Time of Your Life.  Did you know that Chipmunk-meister Ross Bagdasarian made his Broadway debut in that play?  I wonder if he gulped helium before the show every night and did his lines in a weird falsetto.
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Post by: Tomovoz on December 20, 2004, 12:28:26 PM
Thank you DRs for the thoughts for my friend Derek. I shall be talking to him shortly and will visit him this afternoon after his surgery (biopsy of the lungs) if it can go ahead today.
DearReader Laura: The gift of friendship can indeed not be matched. Thank you.
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Post by: Tomovoz on December 20, 2004, 12:31:08 PM
JMK: That is my kind of trivia.  Have always hoped some the early David Seville songs would make it to CD. Such wonders at "Bird On My Head" and "Judy". I wonder if his son has the masters.
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Post by: Jrand74 on December 20, 2004, 12:47:50 PM
Nice avatar JMK....
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Post by: Jrand74 on December 20, 2004, 12:48:31 PM
der Brucer can you identify that "light up" picture that you posted?  Is that somehwhere in France, Europe?
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Post by: JMK on December 20, 2004, 12:52:34 PM
Nice avatar JMK....

Thanks.  It's Betsy and me reflected in a spoon.   :-X
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Post by: Charles Pogue on December 20, 2004, 12:54:29 PM
My answer to what I want for Christmas is the same one I always give The Lovely Wife when she asks what I want: "Peace & contentment."  I want a return to some vestige of gracious living.  Where everything is slower and less stressful and we don't feel we have to be connected or accessible all the time through cell phones, emails, the internet, 300 cable channels, 24-hour news for fear we might miss something (Like what, for instance?  Britney  Spear's latest gauche social actrocity?).  Where lazing about with a good drink and a good book is about as ambitious as anyone needs to get.  I want the luxury of time to reflect, ponder, dream, and do work that is fulfilling without necessarily being goal-oriented...Time, always in precious commodity...  

Oh, yeah...I'll take a lottery win of several million dollars too...

But I expect, like every Christmas, Santa will just leave me a lump of coal, signalling it's time to get back to the old grind.
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Post by: Panni on December 20, 2004, 01:08:38 PM
DR Jay - I forgot to mention that the other night while you were attending The Messiah and it was being broadcast live.... I was listening to it while driving... And I heard you coughing! ;D
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Post by: Panni on December 20, 2004, 01:11:43 PM
It's very peculiar - I feel I should be writing away, but I have decided not to write any more this year - to start fresh for the new year.  

Boy, that sounds nice! Unfortunately (or fortunately) I need to be writing all through the holidays. Which is extra hard on a beautiful day like today.
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Post by: JMK on December 20, 2004, 01:14:52 PM
Re:  coal.  One of my sisters (the smarta**) asked for coal one year as a joke.  Guess what she got.  :)

Re:  coughing.  I once had a letter published in BBC Music Magazine regarding the CD that accompanied each issue.  The recording in question was a live recording of Mahler's unfinished 10th, but I suggested that what they had really uncovered was a little known Mahler Concerto for Cougher, Throat Clearer and Hacker.
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Post by: elmore3003 on December 20, 2004, 01:15:01 PM
Well, I'm thrilled!  WHAT IF? just arrived in the post.  It made my afternoon.  The other good news is that the shopping for my family in Ohio is finished!  I hit Macy's running at 9:45 am and I wasout of there by 10:30!
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Post by: Matt H. on December 20, 2004, 01:24:51 PM
I have ROMANCE, ROMANCE on tape, taped off TV back when I had regular cable (as opposed to digital cable), and it's snowy and grainy and almost unwatchable - almost because I do like it and watch it occasionally. That's one of those shows that did have a small commercial release that it's almost impossible to find now (the Hal Linden-Lee Remick I DO! I DO! is another.)
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Post by: Matt H. on December 20, 2004, 01:26:42 PM
That was one bizarro house, bk. Thanks for the pics so we could see for ourselves. No way anyone could describe in words that place accurately.
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Post by: DERBRUCER on December 20, 2004, 01:34:46 PM
der Brucer can you identify that "light up" picture that you posted?  Is that somehwhere in France, Europe?

I was hoping a fellow DR would recognize a spot near her environs  ::)

Caption from picture as it appeared in the LA Times (http://www.latimes.com/travel/la-tr-quebec19dec19,0,6274092.story?coll=la-home-travel):
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As night falls in Quebec City, the shops on Petit Champlain street take on a warm glow.
(Jocelyn Bernier)

Excerpts from the article:
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A SONG OF CHRISTMAS
Quebec, where merry is made
By Beverly Beyette, Times Staff Writer

Snowflakes dusted my nose as I stood in Place-Royale, the birthplace of French civilization in North America and, more recently, site of the arrest of Leonardo DiCaprio's con-man character in the 2002 film "Catch Me If You Can."

In the movie, the ancient square with its rebuilt 17th century church, Église Notre-Dame-des-Victoires, passes for France. No surprise here. Old Quebec, its narrow, cobbled streets and 17th and 18th century stone houses, seems as French as Napoleon.

This city of 508,000 on the St. Lawrence River 155 miles northeast of Montreal was founded as a French fur trading post in 1608, conquered by England in 1759 and in 1775 attacked by an army led by American Revolutionary Gen. Benedict Arnold in an ill-fated attempt to capture it. Today, Quebecers may be part of the British commonwealth, but they cling to their founding fathers' heritage; 95% of them are French-speaking.

So here it's Pčre Noël, not Father Christmas, who will shimmy down chimneys five days hence. And the city's Christmas celebration, which began Dec. 2 and continues through Jan. 2, is called Québec Fęte Noël.

The heart of the celebration is Old Quebec, the area within the 19th century walls, whose crowning glory is the turreted, copper-roofed 1893 Fairmont le Château Frontenac. It sits atop Cap Diamant, the cliff that divides the Upper Town and the Lower Town, which includes the Place-Royale and Vieux-Port (Old Port) areas.
(http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2004-12/15492893.jpg)
"Sledders enjoy the snow near the grand Fairmont le Château Frontenac in Old Quebec. Sledders enjoy the snow near the grand Fairmont le Château Frontenac in Old Quebec."

Later, I soaked in that atmosphere, strolling narrow, pedestrian-friendly Rue du Petit-Champlain, with its gaily decorated shops and inviting cafes, rows of evergreens ablaze with white lights. Just as Mayor Jean-Paul L'Allier suggests in his greeting on the fete program, even those who long ago stopped believing in Santa Claus may succumb to the magic of Christmas in this setting.
(http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2004-12/15492852.jpg)
"Ice skating at Quebec City's public skating rink in the Place d'Youville, across from the 1903 Capitole theater, is a festive way to keep warm."
(Jocelyn Bernier)

One way for visitors to stay warm is ice skating in the big public rink at Place d'Youville, just across from the festively lighted Capitole theater, where Edith Piaf, Sarah Bernhardt and Maurice Chevalier once performed. Another is with a coffee or alcohol-infused hot chocolate from one of the street kiosks.


der Brucer (feeling like I'm publishing a Magazine!)
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Post by: bk on December 20, 2004, 01:35:49 PM
Off to a brief rehearsal and then, like General MacArthur, I shall return.  If I don't return like General MacArthur, perhaps I shall return as General Foods or even General Delivery.
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Post by: elmore3003 on December 20, 2004, 01:37:45 PM
I have ROMANCE, ROMANCE on tape, taped off TV back when I had regular cable (as opposed to digital cable), and it's snowy and grainy and almost unwatchable - almost because I do like it and watch it occasionally. That's one of those shows that did have a small commercial release that it's almost impossible to find now (the Hal Linden-Lee Remick I DO! I DO! is another.)

A&E broadcast TINTYPES in the early 1990s, as I recall.
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: elmore3003 on December 20, 2004, 01:38:48 PM
Off to a brief rehearsal and then, like General MacArthur, I shall return.  If I don't return like General MacArthur, perhaps I shall return as General Foods or even General Delivery.

Where's General Mills?
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Post by: DERBRUCER on December 20, 2004, 01:39:11 PM
...the shopping for my family in Ohio is finished!  

Why-o, why-o, why-o
Why did you shop in Ohio?

der Brucer DMPhd (Dr. of Deliberate Misinterpretation)
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: Jrand74 on December 20, 2004, 01:49:34 PM
Oh well things are NOT looking good for getting my job back, but that's okay.  I will move on to something else.  Strange thing....but just as well I guess.

Winter storm watch with snow starting after midnight on Tuesday.  Oh my - White Christmas +!
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: Jrand74 on December 20, 2004, 01:50:57 PM
Ahhhh...thanks DR derBrucer....so it is France - once removed.

I assumed DRJMK that that was the lovely Betsy - spoon or no....seems to have been some kind of special occasion or something.  Where are the boys?  ;D
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Post by: DERBRUCER on December 20, 2004, 01:54:12 PM
AH, the voice of reason!

(Extract from Free Republic (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1297073/posts)):

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N.J. School Bans Christmas Carols MAPLEWOOD, N.J. (AP) Dec. 8, 2004 — School officials are sticking to their ban on Christmas carols during holiday instrumental concerts despite heavy pressure from residents and outsiders.
 
The South Orange/Maplewood Board of Education voted earlier this fall to ban music with "a religious orientation or focus on religious holidays," Brian F. O'Leary, the school board president, reiterated at a Monday night board meeting.

The policy has been in place for more than a decade. But the real problems started when the board said the ban extended to instrumental renditions of Christmas carols or other songs referring to religious holidays or symbols.

The schools' brass ensemble was allowed to play songs such as "Silent Night" or "Santa Claus is Coming to Town," in past years; this year it can't.

Just think "Santa Claus is Coming to Town" has advanced to "Relgious Music" stature!

Chuck Muth, in his Newsleter observed:
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NOT-SO-SILENT NIGHT

The Maplewood school board in New Jersey has banned religious music from its annual school Christmas programs...even in music-only form. School board President Brian O’Leary maintains the ban’s intent is to “balance the important roles that religion and music can and do play in our curriculum with a desire to avoid celebrating or appearing to celebrate a religious holiday.”

This once again brings to mind the immortal words of Mark Twain:  “In the first place, God made idiots.  That was for practice.  Then he made school boards.”

Just think, If we had such policies in place in CA, our Voracious Aficionado would not have been inflicted with Handelian proselytizing the other evening.

der Brucer

Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: Jrand74 on December 20, 2004, 01:54:49 PM
Lovely wish from DR CP.....and as life goes on, I realize more and more that some things I thought were necessary and important were actually anchors.

I am dropping them off one by one as I can.  

And as long as there are books, there is an escape if just for awhile.  I can only assume you have read ATLAS SHRUGGED.  But maybe it was many years ago - and even though Ayn's politics might not be your cup of tea, you might try reading it again for the story.  The characters are interesting and committed, and the scope of the story is immense and breath-taking.

Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: Matthew on December 20, 2004, 01:56:17 PM
As for the TOD - I really don't know what I want for Christmas.  Perhaps the ability to pay rent on a 2 bedroom apartment.  I finally gave my pal Brad his copy of "Writers Block" for his b-day, so now I feel I can read my copy.  I wanted to be sure he had it before I started so we can talk about it.  Now... where did I put it!
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Post by: Jrand74 on December 20, 2004, 01:57:04 PM
Well....hmmmm....after all the years of struggle it took to get Christ shoe-horned into a pagan seasonal celebration - NOW the government is taking Him out!  Interesting......
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: George on December 20, 2004, 02:02:30 PM
DR Jay - I forgot to mention that the other night while you were attending The Messiah and it was being broadcast live.... I was listening to it while driving... And I heard you coughing! ;D

Jay, you're famous!! ;D
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: George on December 20, 2004, 02:13:15 PM
I have ROMANCE, ROMANCE on tape, taped off TV back when I had regular cable (as opposed to digital cable), and it's snowy and grainy and almost unwatchable - almost because I do like it and watch it occasionally. That's one of those shows that did have a small commercial release that it's almost impossible to find now (the Hal Linden-Lee Remick I DO! I DO! is another.)
I had no idea that Romance, Romance had a commercial release!  I taped it off of TV, but it's in mono and I don't know where it is.  I did buy the Linden/Remick I Do! I Do! and I do know where that one is, fortunately. :)

A&E broadcast TINTYPES in the early 1990s, as I recall.
I have Tintypes, Sophisticated Ladies (both from Brazil! through eBay), and several others that seem to be part of a series.  
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Post by: JoseSPiano on December 20, 2004, 02:33:07 PM
Yeah... A&E sold videotapes of the various musicals it broadcasted way back when: ROMANCE, ROMANCE, all those NUNSENSE ones, STOP THE WORLD... (or was it the other Newley one - with Peter Scolari) and some other ones I can't remember right now.  They were part of their "Breakfast with the Arts" series, or something like that.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on December 20, 2004, 02:34:32 PM
...Oh, and I think Clairol - or some other hair-care related company - also sponsored some of the shows in the series.
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: JoseSPiano on December 20, 2004, 02:37:09 PM
...Yes, I just woke up from my nap...

;)

Good Afternoon! -Although it already looks like Good Evening!

And now I need to get ready to head in for the show tonight, so...

Laters.
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Post by: Panni on December 20, 2004, 02:40:13 PM
Jr - Sorry to hear about your job. Sometimes, ieven when it's forced on us, the best thing turns out to be moving on. (I'm beginning to sound like a fortune cookie. A big chocolate one.)
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: MBarnum on December 20, 2004, 02:42:39 PM
DR JRand54, sorry about the job front...which job were you hoping to get back? The government one?

PS: You should have a Christmas package arriving in the mail any day!
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Post by: td on December 20, 2004, 02:50:35 PM
no reason, maybe it's the season, but I felt like contributing a moon dance. . .
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Post by: DERBRUCER on December 20, 2004, 02:59:55 PM
AP (http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20041219213909990003) congratulates MBarnum on his choice:

Quote
Kia Spectra Gets Worst Crash Test Rating
First Since 2001 to Get the Insurance Industry's Worst Safety Rating
By DEE-ANN DURBIN, AP
WASHINGTON (Dec. 19) - The Kia Spectra is the first vehicle since 2001 to get the insurance industry's worst safety rating in a frontal crash test, according to results released Sunday.

Only two small cars - the Mazda 3 and the Hyundai Elantra - earned the institute's highest rating of good in this round of testing.

Lund said 11 small cars have good ratings. Besides the Mazda 3 and the Hyundai Elantra, they are the Volkswagen New Beetle and Jetta, the Subaru Impreza, the Suzuki Aerio, the Mini Cooper, the Toyota Corolla, the Ford Focus, the Mitsubishi Lancer and the Honda Civic.

der Brucer

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Post by: Michael on December 20, 2004, 03:12:29 PM
Where's General Mills?

And the enlisted men: Sargent Shriver
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: Michael on December 20, 2004, 03:15:20 PM
I know what I am getting for the holidays

A Julie Andrews Christmas...

My friend has gotten me: Mary Poppins, The Princess Diaries 2 and Cinderella.

Everything else is going to be a surprise,
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: Michael on December 20, 2004, 03:17:28 PM
Yeah... A&E sold videotapes of the various musicals it broadcasted way back when: ROMANCE, ROMANCE, all those NUNSENSE ones, STOP THE WORLD... (or was it the other Newley one - with Peter Scolari) and some other ones I can't remember right now.  They were part of their "Breakfast with the Arts" series, or something like that.

Yes  this is the third taping of the stage show. Pete Scolari and Stephanie Zimblest
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: Michael on December 20, 2004, 03:29:37 PM
I always wanted to see a stage version of Paint Your Wagon because nine of the songs written for the stage were not recorded and always wanted to hear them.

The songs that were not recorded are  in bold were not recorded.

Wandrin Star
I'm On My Way
Rumson Town
What's Going On Here
I Talk To The Trees
Lonely Men
Dream Ballet
They Call The Wimd Maria
I Still See Ellisa
How Can I Wait?
Trio
In Between
Whoop-Ti-Ya
Carino Mio
There's A Coach Coming In
Fandango
Hand Me Down That Can of Beans
Can Can & Rope Dance
Another Autoum
Moving
All For Him
Take the Wheels Off the Wagon
Strike!
Spring


Note: A song called What Do The Other Folks Do? was rewritten as What Do the Simple Folks Do? for Camelot.
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: S. Woody White on December 20, 2004, 03:56:32 PM
Speaking of SNOWY AND BLOWY:
SWWs beloved "white grass" - one AM and he comes prancing into my room with a handful of snow!...der Brucer
Handfull smandfull.  I brought in a pinch of snow, no more.
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: S. Woody White on December 20, 2004, 04:16:36 PM
...the dishes are washed, the floor vacuumed and the counters wiped down.  I even went ahead and sorted out the various fruit baskets.
You're the only person I know, DR Jose, who would alphabetize the fruit in the baskets.  ::)

But it's very good to know your father is feeling better!
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on December 20, 2004, 04:48:28 PM
I wasn't aware that so many Paint Your Wagon songs weren't recorded, Michael.

I grew up in the Bronx, and one of the members of our temple was Seymor Penzner. His stage name was Robert Penn, and he played Jake ("Hand Me Down That Can of Beans") in the original Paint Your Wagon. Do you know if he sang any of the unrecorded numbers?

Mr. Penzner directed and helped to create several temple shows. He made it an extremely exciting time for everyone - even those, like me, who merely painted the scenery.
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: S. Woody White on December 20, 2004, 04:51:54 PM
Off to a brief rehearsal and then, like General MacArthur, I shall return.  If I don't return like General MacArthur, perhaps I shall return as General Foods or even General Delivery.
If you got demoted, we'd have a Major Catastrophe!
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: S. Woody White on December 20, 2004, 05:03:32 PM
TOD: There's a whole list of cookbooks I'd like to add to my collection.  I can never have enough cookbooks.
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on December 20, 2004, 05:11:50 PM
Speaking of cookbooks, has anyone else seen the new Gourmet Cookbook? It weighs more than five pounds and sells for $55 (Canadian). But the recipe and note titles are all in an extremely pale yellow on a cream-colored paper - and virtually unreadable.
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Post by: bk on December 20, 2004, 05:19:03 PM
Back from a splendidly splendid work session with Mr. Kevin Spirtas.  We're having ourselves some fun.
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: S. Woody White on December 20, 2004, 05:21:30 PM
Speaking of cookbooks, has anyone else seen the new Gourmet Cookbook? It weighs more than five pounds and sells for $55 (Canadian). But the recipe and note titles are all in an extremely pale yellow on a cream-colored paper - and virtually unreadable.
Yes, I've seen it and have the same complaint.  Bleh.
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: Danise on December 20, 2004, 05:22:23 PM
Evening all.  

DR Jose thank you so very much for going through the trouble of posting that wonderful article about the chestnuts.  I really enjoyed it.

What did I find in my mail today among several cards and letters from dear friends but a package from DR Elmore.   Thank you so very much!  I am very much looking forward to listening to the CD.

Good vibes to DR Tom’s friend and DR Jose’s Father.  Continued good vibes to DR Ann and DR Jane.  

Last night I went to turn the cold water off after taking my shower only to find it wouldn’t turn off.  I had to go outside and turn the water main off, find the wrench, take the cold water stem off, find a washer and reassemble the whole thing.  I am getting so tired of being a handyman.

As for the TOD, I guess what I want the most is all pressure and stress out of my life.   I just want some peace and time to do the things I want to do.  

Dan-in-Toronto, I haven't see it (the cookbook) but it sounds like someone wasn't thinking when they did the layout.  I like the Cook n' software.  I'm working on getting the entire set.  

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Post by: S. Woody White on December 20, 2004, 05:22:39 PM
Time to get cooking.  I'm giving stuffed peppers a try tonight.  The rice is cooked, the peppers par-boiled.  Now to get everything else together!
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: Panni on December 20, 2004, 05:31:52 PM
DR Danise - Your thanking Jose reminded me that I forgot to answer your question about chestnuts. Mea culpa. Good thing that HE did. And better than I could have, actually. Merci, Jose.
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: Panni on December 20, 2004, 05:48:21 PM
Speaking of unanswered questions, I said I would answer Michael Shayne's from last night...

He asked...

For all the DR who are writers out there.
I am wondering what your work habits are.

Do you write the entire script and then go back and rewrite?

***I do both. Rewrite as I go along and rewrite when it's done. It's all about rewriting and then rewriting some more.

Do you write a section of the story, then rewrite it and then continue and repeat the process until the end?

***Answered above.

Do you allow others to read what you have done as a work in progress or you wait until it is complete before someone else reads it?

***No. I don't show my work to colleagues or friends, actually ever. (Or hardly ever.) And I don't show it to producers until it's done for that incarnation. (First Draft, 2nd Draft, whatever). I don't believe that work should be a subject for group discussions in a non-professional way. Some writers have a certain special person whose judgment they trust, and that's fine. But as for me, when it's done it goes to the producers, the Network, whoever, and then we talk about it. That's painful enough (most of the time) without bringing friends and neighbors into it.
My personal opinion. Others may work differently.

Do you work with an editor or a dramaturge (sp?)?

***No. Not in longform, anyway. I suppose the notes one gets serve this function. Back in the old days in Canada when I worked fairly often with my ex-husband who was a producer, we used a story editor or story consultant as kind of a middle-man, otherwise it got a little too close for comfort. That actually worked quite well.

Hope this answers your questions, MS. I'm busy thinking about a huge meal of garlic noodles and other delightful goodies, so I've probably left out some pertinent facts, but so be it.
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Post by: elmore3003 on December 20, 2004, 05:48:39 PM
Dear Friend BK, I love your Christmas card!  Very stylish and elegant!  Thank you.  Here's to a great 2005 to all of us on this site!  
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Post by: bk on December 20, 2004, 05:49:46 PM
I will shortly be on my way to dinner with Panni's beautiful daughter (yes, I'm letting Panni tag along).
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: MBarnum on December 20, 2004, 05:55:08 PM
Wow, I got a load of stuff in the mail today! Including the much sought after DVD or WHAT IF?!!!

Also a nice Christmas package from DRElmore3003, containg some interesting reading and viewing materials; a video of the movie HOUSE OF THE DAMNED from Ebay; and a nice Christmas card from a cast member of the film WILD WOMEN OF WONGO.

I am exhausted and am going to plop in front of the TV for the rest of the evening (and try to keep my eyes open!).
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Post by: bk on December 20, 2004, 06:15:49 PM
Keep the home fries burning.
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Post by: Jrand74 on December 20, 2004, 06:27:38 PM
Ah yes MBARNUM - I got it today.  Thanks so much.  What a strange movie so far.....and they certainly didn't even try to disguise the facts that Meena was not doing her own singing OR dancing.  LOL....beautiful EASTMAN color.

But a strange movie.

DR MS - I answered your question yesterday as well, but I forgot the last part.  I am my own dramaturg!  I love dramaturgy and do it for a couple of theatres in town.  It used to be VERY difficult, but the internet makes it much easier, although you have to be certain of your sources.

MR BK - You chose the BEST LINE from the original to keep.  Hehehhehe.....too bad Eulabelle has been declared unconstitutional.
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: Jane on December 20, 2004, 06:52:21 PM
If DR Jane is still in town on Wednesday morning, maybe she and Panni and Jay and BK and Sandra and I can all get together for pancakes.

 :'(  I'm home.
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: elmore3003 on December 20, 2004, 07:22:04 PM
I always wanted to see a stage version of Paint Your Wagon because nine of the songs written for the stage were not recorded and always wanted to hear them.

The songs that were not recorded are  in bold were not recorded.

Wandrin Star
I'm On My Way
Rumson Town
What's Going On Here
I Talk To The Trees
Lonely Men
Dream Ballet
They Call The Wimd Maria
I Still See Ellisa
How Can I Wait?
Trio
In Between
Whoop-Ti-Ya
Carino Mio
There's A Coach Coming In
Fandango
Hand Me Down That Can of Beans
Can Can & Rope Dance
Another Autoum
Moving
All For Him
Take the Wheels Off the Wagon
Strike!
Spring


Note: A song called What Do The Other Folks Do? was rewritten as What Do the Simple Folks Do? for Camelot.

DRMichael Shayne, I'm looking at the published vocal score to PAINT YOUR WAGON, and there are items on your list I cannot locate.  I, too, regret the unrecorded TRIO and MOVIN' ON, and I'd like to hear the dance arrangements by the great Trude Rittman.  Several items on your list like "Take the Wheels Off the Wagon," Spring," and "Dream Ballet" are not in my score.  The "Lonely Men" dance goes straight into "They Call the Wind Maria."  The other cues you mention are all dance pieces.
The Fandangos are the dance hall girls who come on at the end of Act One, and "The Strike" is composed of several earlier tunes "I'm On My Way" and "There's a Coach Comin' In."
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: Jane on December 20, 2004, 07:27:32 PM
I’m home and very, very sleepy.  It wasn’t so much the early walk as the lack of sleep last night.  I hope I crash tonight.

This morning I had tours of both Panni and Bruce’s lovely new homes.  I especially enjoyed the artwork on their walls.  I had the pleasure of meeting Panni’s DD (dear daughter) who was amazingly friendly having been woken up at 7:00 AM to meet me.  Abie greeting me by jumping off DD’s bed and jumping on me before jumping back on the bed with DD.

Friday night I arrived 2 hours late and went directly to my mother in-laws and took her out to dinner.

Saturday night my friends I stayed with had their family, and extended family (which I am) Christmas party.  It was a fun evening and wonderful spending time with them.  Watching the little ones open their gifts was a blast.

My uncle’s memorial service was very nice.  I almost lost in when I walked in and there was a big photo of my father and my uncle.  When my cousin got up and spoke about his two wonderful uncles who were so good to him when he lost his father (at a young age) I did loose it.  I’m really glad I went.

Saturday my brother and I hiked in Pacific Palisades and had dinner together Sunday evening.  

It was a short but rewarding trip.
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on December 20, 2004, 07:43:56 PM
Welcome home, DR Jane.
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Post by: Jane on December 20, 2004, 07:46:35 PM


Ginny I also missed you and everyone else here.

JMK I really like your new avatar, and I personally enjoy seeing my friend Betsy there.

JRand best of vibes finding a better job!

Tomvoz I hope all turns out well for your friend.

Danise thanks for the good vibes, they must have been working.


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Post by: Jane on December 20, 2004, 07:47:10 PM
DiT, thank you.  :D
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Post by: Jane on December 20, 2004, 07:55:55 PM
I returned home to numerous cards and packages.  I now have WHAT IF.  As soon as I wake up I will watch it.  I’m sooooo excited.

I just put in my new Christmas CD, arrangements and orchestrations by our own elmore.   Since I typed the last sentence I have been sitting here listening to the beautiful music.
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Post by: elmore3003 on December 20, 2004, 07:57:59 PM
NURSE JANE IS HOME!  

NURSE JANE IS HOME!

You've been missed, dear lady.  Welcome back.

DRJMK, I've been remiss.  I think your new avatar is really swelegant.

I've been watching, and laughing at, WHAT IF?  I want to work on it now.  I can see a nice 4-piece band backing it up, piano, bass, guitar and percussion, I think.

I haven't got to "Chinese Food In Bed," but so far I think Ryan's a hoot.  Now, who are the writers on the non-What-if songs, besides Mary Rodgers and Ahrens & Flaherty?  I see from Michael Shayne's Kimmel site that our BK wrote "Born Too Late" (now I want to hear "Parsley" and "Joshua Novek," a song dear to my heart).   Who wrote the others?
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: td on December 20, 2004, 07:58:51 PM
Since you typed that last sentence, DR Jane, I have concluded RETURN OF THE KING - the extended edition.  


Welcome back!    ;D
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: Jane on December 20, 2004, 08:12:35 PM
Good night, I'm crashing here.
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: Michael on December 20, 2004, 08:12:54 PM
DRMichael Shayne, I'm looking at the published vocal score to PAINT YOUR WAGON, and there are items on your list I cannot locate.  I, too, regret the unrecorded TRIO and MOVIN' ON, and I'd like to hear the dance arrangements by the great Trude Rittman.  Several items on your list like "Take the Wheels Off the Wagon," Spring," and "Dream Ballet" are not in my score.  The "Lonely Men" dance goes straight into "They Call the Wind Maria."  The other cues you mention are all dance pieces.
The Fandangos are the dance hall girls who come on at the end of Act One, and "The Strike" is composed of several earlier tunes "I'm On My Way" and "There's a Coach Comin' In."

Just rechecked my notes and just saw that  Take The Wheels Off The Wagon
was added to the tour. I suspected that alot of the unrecorded numbers where dance numbers. Did Trude Rittman one of the great unsung people of the Broadway musical, compose any of the dance music? She usually went uncrecited for the shows that she did write for.
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: Matt H. on December 20, 2004, 08:18:58 PM
Clairol sponsored ROMANCE, ROMANCE, I know, and perhaps those NUNSENSE TV versions, too.
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: Michael on December 20, 2004, 08:19:20 PM
I wasn't aware that so many Paint Your Wagon songs weren't recorded, Michael.

I grew up in the Bronx, and one of the members of our temple was Seymor Penzner. His stage name was Robert Penn, and he played Jake ("Hand Me Down That Can of Beans") in the original Paint Your Wagon. Do you know if he sang any of the unrecorded numbers?

Mr. Penzner directed and helped to create several temple shows. He made it an extremely exciting time for everyone - even those, like me, who merely painted the scenery.

Small World isn't it (A Styne/Sondheim Reference)

He played the character of Jack Whippany. Since I am not familar with the show and no longer have the cast album I can't answer that question.

Mr. Penn/Penzer also appeared on Broadway in  Oklahoma!, Miss Liberty, Call Me Madam, Can-Can, Kean and the musical version of Cafe Crown

Since DR Ellmoore has the score he might be able to answer your question.
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: Matt H. on December 20, 2004, 08:22:16 PM
I had myself a Julie Andrews evening, too: STAR! and MARY POPPINS. Both excellent.
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Post by: Michael on December 20, 2004, 08:26:36 PM
I had myself a Julie Andrews evening, too: STAR! and MARY POPPINS. Both excellent.

I have to wait until Saturday when I get them.
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: MBarnum on December 20, 2004, 08:26:40 PM
Wow, DR Jane, that was a busy few days! I am glad it went well and that you are home safely!

I am watching WHAT IF? the DVD and it is so much fun! Paul Haber's singing of Millions of Men is superb, and the West Side Story song is great! The Plastic Surgery song had me in stitches!
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Post by: Michael on December 20, 2004, 08:30:19 PM
As for other musicals that were available: at one time I also had Purlie, The American Dance Machine (which recreated original Broadway choreography) Lee Becker was its founder and there was a special done in LA that had original cast members recreated musical moments. The video tape was an abridge version while the PBS version was complete. I remember Glynnis Johns and Len Cariou doing the complete Send In the Clowns. There was also the gals from Company doing You Can Drive a Person Crazy. among others
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: S. Woody White on December 20, 2004, 08:30:28 PM
Clairol sponsored ROMANCE, ROMANCE, I know, and perhaps those NUNSENSE TV versions, too.
Yes, it was Clairol behind Nunsense I & II.  (And underneath their wimples, they have curlers in their hair.)
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: Michael on December 20, 2004, 08:36:32 PM
Yes, it was Clairol behind Nunsense I & II.  (And underneath their wimples, they have curlers in their hair.)

I even heard them singing in  the Abbey
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: elmore3003 on December 20, 2004, 08:38:34 PM
Just rechecked my notes and just saw that  Take The Wheels Off The Wagon
was added to the tour. I suspected that alot of the unrecorded numbers where dance numbers. Did Trude Rittman one of the great unsung people of the Broadway musical, compose any of the dance music? She usually went uncrecited for the shows that she did write for.

Well, she never went totally uncredited; people often didn't know how much she actually did.  She told me with Kurt Weill and Fritz Lowe she worked out the rhythm charts and they composed the dance music to fit her patterns for the choreography.  With ONE TOUCH OF VENUS, I'm sure the ballet music is all Weill's, but I've always thought the great melodies in the Bonnie Jean and Come to Me, Bend to Me dances were Trude's.  Maybe not, but unfortunately, Trude's mental state is so bad now that we'll never know.

In CAROUSEL, the wonderful hornpipe following "Blow High, Blow Low" is based on that song and the music to "when I work in the mill, weavin' at the loom."   Her musical skills were boggling, and I don't think there's anyone today in her class.  There are some talented dance arrangers working now, but I don't think they make music of it as Trude did.   In the CAROUSEL ballet in Act Two, she turns Mr Snow's "I own a little boat" into a pompous polonaise for him and his brood that is not just right but funny at the same time.  Almost all of "The Small House of Uncle Thomas" is Trude's, and if the figure behind Simon Legree isn't clear enough, Trude reinforces it with a variation on "A Puzzlement" to help the audience out.  I think that moment and the austere version of "Hello, Young Lovers" in the ice walking sequence may be the only two moments of Rodgers in the ballet!
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Post by: Michael on December 20, 2004, 08:39:54 PM
 I am tired of hearing the following Broadway songs. There should be a ban on any further recordings of:

Memory
Send In the Clowns
Medowlark
Music of the Night
I Dreamed a Dream (hate the english translation)
anything by Frank Wildhorn

I am sure there are others. Any one care to add to the list.
Title: Re:SNOWY AND BLOWY AND MISTLETOEY
Post by: Michael on December 20, 2004, 08:42:45 PM
Well, she never went totally uncredited; people often didn't know how much she actually did.  She told me with Kurt Weill and Fritz Lowe she worked out the rhythm charts and they composed the dance music to fit her patterns for the choreography.  With ONE TOUCH OF VENUS, I'm sure the ballet music is all Weill's, but I've always thought the great melodies in the Bonnie Jean and Come to Me, Bend to Me dances were Trude's.  Maybe not, but unfortunately, Trude's mental state is so bad now that we'll never know.

In CAROUSEL, the wonderful hornpipe following "Blow High, Blow Low" is based on that song and the music to "when I work in the mill, weavin' at the loom."   Her musical skills were boggling, and I don't think there's anyone today in her class.  There are some talented dance arrangers working now, but I don't think they make music of it as Trude did.   In the CAROUSEL ballet in Act Two, she turns Mr Snow's "I own a little boat" into a pompous polonaise for him and his brood that is not just right but funny at the same time.  Almost all of "The Small House of Uncle Thomas" is Trude's, and if the figure behind Simon Legree isn't clear enough, Trude reinforces it with a variation on "A Puzzlement" to help the audience out.  I think that moment and the austere version of "Hello, Young Lovers" in the ice walking sequence may be the only two moments of Rodgers in the ballet!

Sorry to hear she is in poor health. I don't think she ever received the acknowledgement or the recognition  she deserved
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Post by: elmore3003 on December 20, 2004, 08:42:45 PM

He played the character of Jack Whippany. Since I am not familar with the show and no longer have the cast album I can't answer that question.

Since DR Ellmoore has the score he might be able to answer your question.

Well, Jake Whippany has the scene in "I'm on my way" with Kay Medford as Cherry before he sings a refrain of the song and he sings "Rumson Town."
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Post by: elmore3003 on December 20, 2004, 08:44:04 PM
Agnes de Mille's dances for PAINT YOUR WAGON got better reviews than Alan Lerner's book and he never forgave her.  That's why Hanya Holm did MY FAIR LADY and CAMELOT.
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Post by: Michael on December 20, 2004, 08:48:53 PM
Yes, it was Clairol behind Nunsense I & II.  (And underneath their wimples, they have curlers in their hair.)

I remember running into Terri White at 88's (God I miss that place) whenever I was in NYC. She used to work there inbetween stage stints and she loved talking to me about Nunsense and Barnum. She would often perform her showstopper from Barnum Thank God I'm Old. Sometimes she would do the blusely parts of Black and WHite
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Post by: Michael on December 20, 2004, 08:50:10 PM
Agnes de Mille's dances for PAINT YOUR WAGON got better reviews than Alan Lerner's book and he never forgave her.  That's why Hanya Holm did MY FAIR LADY and CAMELOT.

The dances/musical stagings in My Fair Lady cannot compare to the Agnes De Mille Dances in Paint Your Wagon
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Post by: elmore3003 on December 20, 2004, 08:56:11 PM
Sorry to hear she is in poor health. I don't think she ever received the acknowledgement or the recognition  she deserved

She was a student at the conservatory in Cologne and she studied with a great composer, Braunfels, whom the Nazis banned and who deserves more recognition today.  His opera THE BIRDS is quite beautiful.  I think she liked me because I knew a bit about Braunfels and had heard the opera.  

Trude's in a home in Lexington, Massachusetts, in her mid-90's I believe, and very frail.  I went to visit her around 10 years ago, and she was charming and energetic.  Unfortunately, she tired quickly, and her mind was sharpest in the morning.  I took with me some manuscripts of cut numbers from ON A CLEAR DAY to show her, and she had no memory of them!

I don't think there's a clear mind any more, and I expect any day now to hear of her death.  She was left an income in Fritz Lowe's will (I think they may have been a couple at some point) and I believe she has some royalty income from Rodgers & Hammerstein.  I'm very fond of her and so happy to have had a chance to know her, however slightly.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on December 20, 2004, 08:58:49 PM
Good Evening!

Note to producers: Never have a show on a Monday night unless you regularly have shows on Monday nights.

...We had fun tonight, but we only played to about a 1/2 house, and in Kreeger, a 1/2 house is very noticable.  I think there were just a few people in the front row of the balcony, and that was it for the balcony.  -And I think those people were the members from the MILLIE cast that is currently at the Kennedy Center.  I also think THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING EARNEST in the Fichlander was also sparsely populated tonight.

But the audience was great and liked the show, so...

-Oh, and I stopped for groceries on the way home too.  Isn't that just too, too exciting?!?!? Huh?!?!  Isn't it?

;)
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Post by: Michael on December 20, 2004, 09:00:58 PM
She was a student at the conservatory in Cologne and she studied with a great composer, Braunfels, whom the Nazis banned and who deserves more recognition today.  His opera THE BIRDS is quite beautiful.  I think she liked me because I knew a bit about Braunfels and had heard the opera.  

Trude's in a home in Lexington, Massachusetts, in her mid-90's I believe, and very frail.  I went to visit her around 10 years ago, and she was charming and energetic.  Unfortunately, she tired quickly, and her mind was sharpest in the morning.  I took with me some manuscripts of cut numbers from ON A CLEAR DAY to show her, and she had no memory of them!

I don't think there's a clear mind any more, and I expect any day now to hear of her death.  She was left an income in Fritz Lowe's will (I think they may have been a couple at some point) and I believe she has some royalty income from Rodgers & Hammerstein.  I'm very fond of her and so happy to have had a chance to know her, however slightly.

Thanks again Larry,

And I will ask you about On a Clear Day.. tomorrow
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Post by: JoseSPiano on December 20, 2004, 09:02:51 PM
I am tired of hearing the following Broadway songs. There should be a ban on any further recordings of:

Memory
Send In the Clowns
Medowlark
Music of the Night
I Dreamed a Dream (hate the english translation)
anything by Frank Wildhorn

I am sure there are others. Any one care to add to the list.

...Well, just stop putting those CDs in your CD players and/or hit the Skip button! ;)

As for my additions to the list... Just search back a few weeks to the overdone audition songs list.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on December 20, 2004, 09:10:00 PM
Speaking of cookbooks, has anyone else seen the new Gourmet Cookbook? It weighs more than five pounds and sells for $55 (Canadian). But the recipe and note titles are all in an extremely pale yellow on a cream-colored paper - and virtually unreadable.

Apparently, it was a printer's and proofer's error... The next printing is supposed to remedy the problem with dark brown or black printing for the titles.  However, after finally looking at the book, it's not that pale... But it does it make it hard to do a casual browse of the book by recipe title.  *Then again, I'm used to reading in dim light for a living, so...

 8)
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Post by: bk on December 20, 2004, 09:11:04 PM
elmore:  All the What Ifs are mine.  Chinese Food, When You're Waiting for Love, Simply, We'll Do a Revue, A Slight Neurotic,  Broadway Coming Attractions, Born Too Late (the disco number), and Annie are mine.  Nothing (the Mr. Karp song) is Bernstein/Markell, Millions of Men is Schmidt and Jones, A Little Lift and Foolin' Ourselves are Billy Barnes, Better is Ed Kleban, At the Same Time and Show Me are Mary Rodgers with Sondheim/Charnin and John Forrester, Times Like This is Ahrens and Flaherty.  I Don't Need You is Rupert Holmes.  I think that's it.
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Post by: bk on December 20, 2004, 09:14:52 PM
The restaurant, Crustacaen, is simply one of the best restaurants ever.  I've now eaten their twice and both meals have been exquisite.  I had the cracked crab (swimming in garlic) and the garlic noodles - amazingly amazing.  I'm so full I will probably explode.  The dishes I had are made in their "secret kitchen" where only the chef may enter.  Faboo.

Here is a photograph of the beautiful Rachel.
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Post by: Panni on December 20, 2004, 09:28:50 PM
The beautiful Rachel looked at the photograph above and said, "That's scary!" Here is a better photo of the ravishing Rachel, the beauteous Bruce and the pulchritudinous Panni.
In front of us is the yumilicious food of Crustacean. I may burst, but boy was it good!
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Post by: Panni on December 20, 2004, 09:33:30 PM
On entering Crustacean you walk over a glassed over stream filled with koi fsh which winds its way throught the restaurant.
You walk over this...
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Post by: Panni on December 20, 2004, 09:34:44 PM
We're off to see the Wizard...
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Post by: Panni on December 20, 2004, 09:39:12 PM
I ate huge royal tiger prawns with garlic noodles. Deelish!
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Post by: Ann on December 20, 2004, 09:58:30 PM
Whatever DD Rachel had to drink at the table looks very yummy...
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on December 20, 2004, 10:03:30 PM
I've been on the e & t side the past few days and it will more than likely continue for the rest of the week.  Busy and stressing out over shopping for gifts, plotting out Christmas Day dinner and doing last minute cleaning and decorating at the House of Mom, where I'm pretty much staying for this week.  I love Christmas a lot, but, man, the work involved!
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Post by: bk on December 20, 2004, 10:08:55 PM
I REEK of garlic, I tell you.  
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Post by: JoseSPiano on December 20, 2004, 10:11:57 PM
Sad, but true... It looks like I'm about to turn into a Wussburger in a few minutes... -And I have a sneaking suspicion I'll be making breakfast again at 8:30AM tomorrow morning.  -Yes, I know that 8:30 isn't really that early, but for Mr. Nightowl here...

And, of course, since we had a show tonight, I'm already thinking tomorrow is Wednesday... NOT!  Ah, well...

Goodnight.
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Post by: Panni on December 20, 2004, 10:11:59 PM
Whatever DD Rachel had to drink at the table looks very yummy...

Plain old iced tea. But it does look good.
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Post by: Panni on December 20, 2004, 10:12:22 PM
And one for garlic.
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on December 20, 2004, 10:19:18 PM
I REEK of garlic, I tell you.  

IMHO (internet lingo!), there are far worse things to reek of.
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Post by: S. Woody White on December 20, 2004, 10:20:09 PM
Eating seafood with chopsticks - YUM!

I had a kitchen boo-boo tonight.  The stuffed bell peppers came out faboo, with a paprika-tomato sauce.  The boo-boo came when I went to ladle some of the sauce onto der B's plate.  I'd used a saucepan with an ovenproof metal handle for baking the peppers, and had made sure to use a potholder when taking the saucepan out of the oven.  Unfortunately, I forgot to continue with the potholder when I grabbed the handle to tilt the pan to reach the sauce.  

OUCHERS!

My fingers are still smarting from that mistake.  Kids, do NOT try this at home!

(The stuffing was magnificent, by the by.  A mix of sausage, ground beef, onion, mushers, some tomato, some hot peppers, some oregano, pre-cooked rice and parsley.)
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on December 20, 2004, 10:23:04 PM
TOD:

This Christmas I asked for peace on Earth, goodwill towards all men, and a Tivo.  I know I'm getting peace on Earth--I saw it in a Target bag in my mom's closet.
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Post by: S. Woody White on December 20, 2004, 10:24:09 PM
I REEK of garlic, I tell you.  
Garlic is a highly regarded anti-oxidant, so you shouldn't have a problem with oxidizing.

 ::)
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Post by: Panni on December 20, 2004, 10:25:42 PM
Garlic is a highly regarded anti-oxidant, so you shouldn't have a problem with oxidizing.

 ::)

...Or with vampires.
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Post by: Jay on December 20, 2004, 11:11:56 PM
My evening was graced by the presence of Dear Readers Laura and Sandra, in town for their annual attendance at Plaid Tidings at the historic Pasadena Playhouse.

They stopped by my house first, where they made the mutually  friendly acquaintances of Dear Dogs Roller and Blackjack.  We had drinks (Dear Reader Sandra imbibed a regular Coke with some syrup from a jar of marraschino cherries stirred in while Dear Reader Laura and I had more traditionally served concoctions) and nosh and chatted and laughed and chatted some more and then left for dinner.  

We went to the Pasadena branch of Cafe Bizou, where Dear Reader Sandra was thrilled to find gazpacho on the menu.  Dear Reader Laura had crabcakes and salad and I had sweetbreads, seldom found on menus these days and nicely done at this restaurant.  We laughed and chatted and laughed some more before embarking upon the next module in our evening.

After dinner, we headed over to Griffith Park and, after a fairly long wait in a line of automobiles, viewed the holiday light displays they have there at this time each year.  The lights were very festive and the three of us laughed and chatted yet some more and generally enjoyed each other's company and holiday cheer.

It was a swell evening!
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Post by: bk on December 20, 2004, 11:37:59 PM
I REEK of garlic.