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Title: THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: bk on December 21, 2004, 12:07:54 AM
Well, you've read the notes, you are now dense with the notes, and now it is time to post until the dense cows come home.  
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Jrand74 on December 21, 2004, 12:15:33 AM
First post huzzah!  I smell garlic.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Jrand74 on December 21, 2004, 12:17:02 AM
Hmmmmm....books in 2004 -

Writer's Block
Kritzer Time

101 American Musicals
Everything was Possible
Beyond Paradise

That will be a start.....
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Jrand74 on December 21, 2004, 02:38:06 AM
Hello DR Hisaka!
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Hisaka on December 21, 2004, 03:06:48 AM

Hi, DR JRand54!
I don't have any knowledge of Indiana. Sorry. Tell me about Indiana and about where you live in.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Hisaka on December 21, 2004, 03:19:45 AM

DR Panni: You have a pretty daughter with beautiful eyes.  You must be proud of her.  How old is she?
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Post by: Jrand74 on December 21, 2004, 03:50:06 AM
DR Hisaka...Indiana is located near the middle of the United States.  It is the home of the Indianapolis 500 automobile race held every year in the month of May.  I live about 15 miles west of the capitol city of Indianapolis in a small town.  And we are expecting 4 to 6 inches of snow tonight!
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Jrand74 on December 21, 2004, 03:53:43 AM
Here is your Allison Hayes photo of the week!   ;D

CHICAGO SYNDICATE - Columbia - 1955.  Dressed by Jean Louis, and acting with Mark Hanna who would later switch to screenwriting and pen ATTACK OF THE 50 FOOT WOMAN for her.  This is one of my favorite dresses she wears in ANY movie!  :o
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: elmore3003 on December 21, 2004, 05:36:43 AM
Good morning, all!  Yes, Dear Friend BK, those were dense notes, so dense that I cannot see the words for the letters.  Maybe it's my aging, but if someone sent me nine dancing ladies this week, those dames better be doing the minuet or gavotte, something slow and quiet.

Thank you for the notes on all the songwriting credits.  I hadn't realized so many of the somgs were yours.  As to "Chinese Food In Bed," it's Ryan's one poor spot.  I liked his energy and his voice on everything else, but it clearly wasn't a song he was suited for.  Guy Haines understands it much better, but Guy's a much more elegant performer than many around today.  

When the BBC and Ian Marshall Fisher did JUBILEE in 1999, the young lady who played the nightclub singer and sang "Begin the Beguine" couldn't get a handle on the number.  She had no comprehension of what a big band singer did, and she never nailed the song.  She sang a great "Just One of Those Things," looked and danced wonderfully, but she didn't know what to do with the Beguine.  At one point, Ian Marshall Fisher brought up Madonna in DICK TRACY, and that was no help either for her.

So, Books of 2004?  So many!  I know I'll miss several, so this topic may become what Lorelei Lee calls a row of encyclopediacs over the day.
KRITZER TIME (I read all three Kritzer books this year)
WRITER'S BLOCK
SKINNY DIP (Carl Hiaasen)
AN UNPARDONABLE CRIME
TALLULAH
MARGOT FONTEYN
THE SLEEPING BEAUTY: A LEGEND IN PROGRESS
PLAYING UNDERGROUND: A CRITICAL HISTORY OF THE 1960s OFF-OFF-BROADWAY MOVEMENT
Books of 2004 I'm browsing:
COMPLETE LYRICS OF P.G. WODEHOUSE
101 BROADWAY MUSICALS
JERRY HERMAN



Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Hisaka on December 21, 2004, 05:54:58 AM

DR JRand54: Your description reminded me that my friend who lives in Durham, NC, sent me a few pictures from the Indy 500 automobile race when she attended with her family this May.  The race  looked huge and crowded, but so interesting.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on December 21, 2004, 06:05:41 AM
My favorite book this year is Alice Munro's collection of short stories, RUNAWAY. As the jacket notes say, "As always in her stories, everything connects." And the reader can't let go of the characters.

Honorable mention goes to WRITER'S BLOCK. I had so much fun reading that book (and look forward to the movie).
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on December 21, 2004, 06:09:15 AM
The Sunday NY Times theater section had an excellent front-page feature called "Broadway's No-Show Business." Two quotes: "The Ethel Merman dependability has given way to previously scheduled concerts and the lure of Hollywood." And, "Ann Reinking (left) starred in CHICAGO in 1996. But did anyone besides the photographer see it?"

I imagine that Kevin Spirtas wonders why Hugh Jackman had to be the exception. Question for BK: Is that angle - or any other - from BOY FROM OZ being worked into his act?
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Post by: Panni on December 21, 2004, 06:32:48 AM

DR Panni: You have a pretty daughter with beautiful eyes.  You must be proud of her.  How old is she?

Thank you, DR Hisaka. Yes, I'm very proud of her. Rachel (aka DD) not only has beautiful eyes, but a beautiful personality. She's exceedingly smart (on the Dean's List at the University of San Francisco), has a wicked sense of humor and is a genuinely good person. She'll be 21 on January 17. Hard to believe!
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Post by: Jennifer on December 21, 2004, 06:44:59 AM
The amazon.com story continues (from yesterday).

Okay, now I am not sure whether to respond to their response.  Maybe you guys can tell me (if I should write back).

I got a note today that said they shipped 3 additional replacement orders to make sure the shipment arrived by christmas.

Now IMO, wouldn't one 1day shipment suffice?  Would you feel the need to send 3 additional packages? I mean would any sane person feel this need?

It makes no sense to me.  But the person writing the email explained it as if it made sense to her.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Stuart on December 21, 2004, 06:49:30 AM
DR Hisaka, those are lovely peonies (or are they cabbage roses?) in your avatar.  Do you grow them?
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Panni on December 21, 2004, 06:53:05 AM
As I said, hard to believe that DD is almost 21. Here is a photo of her at only 3 days. I call it her Jack Benny picture.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Jennifer on December 21, 2004, 07:07:59 AM
I just checked and amazon shipped 3 of the packages by fedex.

This might sound stupid, but how does one return items shipped by fedex.

I can't even get on the http://www.fedex.com site because I'm in canada.

I'm not sure if these have to be signed for (perhaps we can tell the guy who signs for packages at my friend's building not to sign for it).

If anyone can read on the fedex site (if it's not too much trouble), I'd appreciate it.  I don't really use fedex too much so I don't know their policy.

Hmmm, and amazon.com thought they were doing me a favor. :)
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: MBarnum on December 21, 2004, 07:09:51 AM
Oh, my gosh DR Panni, that baby picture is so funny!

Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: bk on December 21, 2004, 07:11:01 AM
I'm up, but must now be on my way.  

Yes, the Hugh Jackman never missing a performance is a major section of both Kevin's act and this presentation.  It's really fun.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: bk on December 21, 2004, 07:11:43 AM
I REEK of garlic.  I wouldn't want to be near me this morning, although it may be interesting to be near me this morning.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: MBarnum on December 21, 2004, 07:11:44 AM
Favorite books of 2004:

Kritzer Time
The Last Reunion
The Cat Who Went to Paris

Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: DERBRUCER on December 21, 2004, 07:22:55 AM
DR vixmom brought us the Japanese Lap Pillow; here is its companion, the Boyfriend Pillow:

(http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/040930/040930_boyfriendpillow_hmed.hmedium.jpg)

This and other uselessful gifts discussed in the  LA Times (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-et-gifts21dec21,0,6)

der Brucer

Maybe Keith will surprise Jane with some $65,000 Reboks:

(http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2004-12/15542302.jpg)
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: DERBRUCER on December 21, 2004, 07:28:09 AM
When does a bird become a rat?

(http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2004-12/15544655.jpg)
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Purloined Parrots to Get Trip Home
•  Agencies join forces to return 90 exotic birds stolen from Mexico.

By Richard Marosi, Times Staff Writer

SAN DIEGO — With help from authorities in two countries, nearly 100 birds headed home Monday.

Dozens of Amazon parrots seized from smugglers in recent months were handed back to Mexican officials as part of an effort to return the birds to their natural habitat in the lowlands and forests of Mexico.

The parrots — 90 lilac crowns and Mexican redheads — were probably stolen from their nests and driven north before U.S. authorities discovered them hidden in two cars crossing the border at the San Ysidro and Otay Mesa ports of entry.

The birds — squeezed into tiny cages with their beaks taped — were found in side panels and under seats. Mexican officials said that, typically, for each bird that survives the journey, about five die.

Amazon parrots, which are green with yellow and red crowns, can talk, but those seized had not been around humans long enough to mimic speech, Brooks said.

When parrots do talk, they can help investigations, he added.

In a separate case, a U.S. man who said he kept birds only for breeding purposes came under suspicion for smuggling when the animals started squawking Spanish phrases.

"If the birds are speaking Spanish, that probably leads me to think that they are from across the border," Brooks said.

This tale of rat-fink birds courtesy of the  LA Times (http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-birds21dec21,0,6715679.story?coll=la-ho).

der Brucer (who must now take leave to feed the birds - at a hellofoa lot more than twopence a bag)
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Panni on December 21, 2004, 07:40:46 AM
Favorite books of 2004 (listed alphabetically, says the diplomat)

Dogs of Babel
Field Notes on the Compassionate Life (read in galley form)
Kritzer Time
Now Dig This: the Unspeakable Writings of Terry Southern
The Poems of Dylan Thomas (obviously not a 2004 book - but reread every few years)
Writer's Block

I suddenly can't think of other books. I know I read a bevy of books this year - many work related - but can't think of more to list. Perhaps later in the day when the cloud of garlic has lifted from my brain.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Panni on December 21, 2004, 07:45:39 AM
I love that boyfriend pillow!
(But if your boyfriend gives you a boyfriend pillow, is that the 2004 equivalent of a Dear John letter?)
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on December 21, 2004, 07:55:14 AM
Add Kritzer Time to my list, too, since I read it in 04.

(I didn't know what year it was ... My calendar is out of whack. At the moment I'm writing some copy for 2006 calendars.)
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Matt H. on December 21, 2004, 08:17:08 AM
Loved seeing the pics of Pani, Rachel, and bk at dinner, but couldn't we have had a picture of bk and Kevin hard at work.

Hey, an equal opportunity website!  :D
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Post by: Matt H. on December 21, 2004, 08:18:14 AM
Best theater book of 2004 for me was EVERYTHING WAS POSSIBLE. Since I think FOLLIES is the greatest musical I ever saw, this book was electrifying for me.

I'm loving BROADWAY MUSICALS )The 101 best), too.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: MBarnum on December 21, 2004, 08:22:50 AM
Hey, Kevin Spirtas was in the 1994 version of VALLEY OF THE DOLLS!

I must have missed what project he is going to work on with you BK.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: JoseSPiano on December 21, 2004, 08:24:55 AM
Good Morning!

Did I read any books this year?  Oh, yes, I did...

Writer's Block
Kritzer Time

...And a bunch of cookbooks - some of those forewords and sidebars can be very informative.  I think all the various blurbs in "Home Baking" by Alford and Duguid are my favorites for this year.

It's actually kind of sad that I don't read as much as I used to, but I tend to go through phases in regards to reading books.  There will be a stretch of time where I'll just pick one book up after then other.  Then there will be whole stretches when I don't read a single thing - except for the newspapers and whatever script of a show I happen to be working on.  -It's sort of like my penchant for alcohol.  I will go months - even a year or so - without touching a drop.  Not because I don't like it, or don't want to, it just doesn't cross my mind.  It isn't a necessary (pronounced in that great English way, "NEH-sess-ry").  And then there will be those few weeks or even months where I tend to have a beer or a glass of wine with my meals... and maybe even a nightcap... And then there was Australia last summer...

...Where was I?... Oh...

However, I have not noticed a corrallary between my "fits" of reading and my "fits" of drinking.  At least I don't think I have...

 :P
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Post by: DERBRUCER on December 21, 2004, 08:28:32 AM
TODAY'S FOOD FOR THOUGHT:

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Higher education in decline,
 
Posted: December 15, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Walter Williams
© 2004 Creators Syndicate, Inc.

Last week's column discussed the sad and tragic state of affairs in higher education. According to loads of letters received in response to that column, it's worse than I thought. Let me share just a few of them.

One person wrote that he knows an elementary school teacher and said, "She believed, until just this past summer, that the state of Alaska was an island because it is so often shown as an inset on many U.S. maps, appearing somewhat like an island."

A professor said that while he was trying to help a student with a problem, he asked her, "What is 20,000 minus 600?" He went on to say, "She literally could not answer without the calculator." He rhetorically questioned, "Should a person receive a college degree that cannot answer that in their head?"


An English professor wrote, "One of the items that I assigned was a two-page essay that described a favorite vacation or holiday. One student turned in two pictures drawn with crayon depicting the beach. When I gave her a failing grade, she was indignant and said that she put a great deal of work into the pictures. When I told her that she did not do the assignment and that she was supposed to write an essay, she said, 'But I don't know what an essay is!'"

Such students are academic cripples and don't belong in college in the first place. Recently released findings of the Program for International Student Assessment ranked U.S. high-school students 24th out of 29 countries. American 15-year-olds demonstrate less math proficiency than their counterparts in Hungary and the Slovak Republic. With those findings, we shouldn't be surprised by a recent U.S. Department of Education study finding that nearly half of all college students must take remedial courses in math and reading. According to National Center for Education Statistics, in 2000, close to 80 percent of colleges offered remedial services.

Several devastating consequences result when colleges admit unprepared students. First, it lets high schools off the hook by allowing them to continue to confer fraudulent diplomas. Second, it leads to a dumbing down of the academic curricula and the creation of Mickey Mouse courses for students who can't make it in more challenging courses. Academic departments or professors who don't dumb down their classes and participate in grade inflation risk declining enrollment and administrative threats to their budgets. Finally, hiring faculty to staff remedial courses inflates college costs to parents and taxpayers.


(Above extracted from  Walter Williams Syndicated Column)
 (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41946)

der Brucer
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: JoseSPiano on December 21, 2004, 08:35:07 AM
My father is up and about today - well, as up and about as he can be at this point.  One of his work buddies called him a few minutes ago, and he started sharing all the various "adventures" he had in the hospital and the ones he's had since he's been home.  T.M.I!  -imho... But he's laughing about all of it now, so that's very good.  He's also very proud of some Rube Goldberg looking thing he came up with with - looks like it's made up of some old neck ties and one of my mother's old dresses.  It helps him to get around faster in his bedroom - and keep track of where he left the phone, and, most importantly, the remote control for the TV!

;)
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: MBarnum on December 21, 2004, 08:53:40 AM
By the way Jose, I must commend you on your excellent piano playing on the What If? special edition DVD! Your  fingers must have been exhausted by the end of the evening!!
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Panni on December 21, 2004, 08:54:44 AM
Jose - So glad your dad is up and aboot (oops - my years in Canada popped up).
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Post by: Matt H. on December 21, 2004, 08:57:50 AM
A big afternoon of last minute shopping on tap for me today, so don't know if I'll have any time for DVDs before tonight. When I finally get a chance to sit down and relax in front of the set, I think maybe I'll watch one of the greatest of all holiday movies - THE SNAKE PIT.  :D
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Post by: Matt H. on December 21, 2004, 08:58:44 AM
Glad to read about you dad, DR Jose. Continued good wishes for him.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on December 21, 2004, 09:11:11 AM
By the way Jose, I must commend you on your excellent piano playing on the What If? special edition DVD! Your  fingers must have been exhausted by the end of the evening!!

Awww... Thank you, Michael.  There were some nights when my whole body was exhausted.  However, it was my brain that got the workout during the evening.  Just keeping track of tempos, entrances, pacing, "reading" the performers each night, etc...  -While trying to keep my own nerves under control.  "Oh.. So that really is Mel Brooks in the front row?!?!?!"

The top of the second half was always the hardest... I was always scared that I would start the Assassins/Sound of Music section to fast for Susanne.  That's a LOT of words!

...You try saying, "Fromme went after Ford" three times fast!  -Or even one time fast!

-OH!  But the original lyric was "Squeaky Fromme shot Ford"... Now that was difficult!  Thank you, BK! ;)
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: George on December 21, 2004, 09:16:55 AM
That is good new about your father, Jose!

I got home last night after ushering for a performance by Cherish the Ladies here in Olympia.  In my mailbox was NOT the "What If?" DVD (sigh).  Hopefully tonight!

Tomorrow I'm taking the day off from work and my niece and I will see the first showing of "The Phantom of the Opera" movie.  She got the movie soundtrack, but didn't offer to let me borrow it.  I told her that it would make a nice Christmas gift for someone who has the original London, Canadian, German, Mexican and Japanese cast recordings, as well as a studio cast recording.  I hope she took the hint!
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: JoseSPiano on December 21, 2004, 09:21:42 AM
Jose - So glad your dad is up and aboot (oops - my years in Canada popped up).

Thanks again.  We did have a little scare last night.  My mom woke me up around 3:00AM - yes, I was already asleep - asking me to drive out to CVS to get a thermometer since she didn't have one.  It took a few minutes for me to comprehend what she was saying, asking.  Then she knocked on my brother's door asking the same thing.  By the time she made it back to my door - which is just across the hall - I had remembered that I had a digital thermometer in my dopp kit - I bought one when I was sick this past spring.  So...

My father thought he was running a temperature.  Well, it turned out to be a mere 99.3.  Nothing to worry about.  I told him - and my Mom - that he was probably running warm since it was already 3:00AM, and they both should have been in bed by now. ;)

-And today's mission for me is to make sure my Dad doesn't overdue it today with his new-found/returning well-being.  He keeps walking around every few minutes just to walk around - sometimes he has to walk around for other reasons...  I'm thinking he's aiming to cook the Christmas dinner this weekend... Hmmm...  It's possible, but probably not the best thing for him to do so soon after the surgery.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Jennifer on December 21, 2004, 09:33:24 AM
Good news about your dad DR Jose.  And good thing you remembered you had that thermometer.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: JoseSPiano on December 21, 2004, 09:44:43 AM
That is good new about your father, Jose!

I got home last night after ushering for a performance by Cherish the Ladies here in Olympia.  In my mailbox was NOT the "What If?" DVD (sigh).  Hopefully tonight!

Tomorrow I'm taking the day off from work and my niece and I will see the first showing of "The Phantom of the Opera" movie.  She got the movie soundtrack, but didn't offer to let me borrow it.  I told her that it would make a nice Christmas gift for someone who has the original London, Canadian, German, Mexican and Japanese cast recordings, as well as a studio cast recording.  I hope she took the hint!

Danke.

I'm just trying to figure out how many cities POTO will be opening in tomorrow?  All the ads say "selected cities" December 22, then wide release in January.  But I keep hearing from friends in various parts of the country right now that are planning on seeing it tomorrow.  Heck, even two movie theatres in Richmond are showing it a midnight tonight!  I guess it's nice to know that Richmond has made the "selected cities" list.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: vixmom on December 21, 2004, 09:47:24 AM
Quick notes as work is CRAZY today!

Re: Dumbing Down;  my 11 yeras old daughter's History teacher when teaching about ancient Eqypt  tol dmy daughter there was no such place as the  Valley of the Queens.  (She has been fascinated with Egypt since the 1st grade)  when she argued with him , saying. "Yes there is, Theres a Valley of the Kings and A Valley of the Queens, can you show me wher it is on the map?"  he replied "There is no Valley of the Queens, get over it"  It was of course with great pleasure that she returend to school the next day with several web and book references to said nonexistent  "VOQ"
his reply?  "I was just testing you"

THEN , same teacher, assigned a prohject where the kids had to make up a menu as if they were opening a diner in Mestopotamia.  She got a 90.  He took off 10 points because she had included two items with duck on the menu. He wrote in the margin, "ducks only exist in North America".  Today she is bringing in some printouts showing    him all the places ducxks are native to, including , yes , Ancient Mesopotamia!! (She plans to demand those 10 points back as well!)
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Post by: JoseSPiano on December 21, 2004, 09:54:00 AM
...And speaking of Christmas dinner... Well, at least Christmas Eve dinner... It looks like I'll be cooking dinner for myself and Steve and maybe a few other friends Christmas Eve night in Richmond.  And then afterwards, we will settle in front of the TV to watch the DVD of WHAT IF?  -It will all be some theatre people, so it'll be nice to be watching it with people who will actually get all the jokes. ;)

Of course, I'll be spending Christmas Eve morning doing my Christmas shopping.  I'm only buying a few gifts this year - and my brothers have requested gift cards for the nieces and nephews so that they can buy clothes for the kids later on (Gap, Gymboree, etc.).  Of course, Uncle Jojo may happen to enclose said gift card in a plush toy or a model airplane. ;)
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: JoseSPiano on December 21, 2004, 09:59:48 AM
Quick notes as work is CRAZY today!

Re: Dumbing Down;  my 11 yeras old daughter's History teacher when teaching about ancient Eqypt  tol dmy daughter there was no such place as the  Valley of the Queens.  (She has been fascinated with Egypt since the 1st grade)  when she argued with him , saying. "Yes there is, Theres a Valley of the Kings and A Valley of the Queens, can you show me wher it is on the map?"  he replied "There is no Valley of the Queens, get over it"  It was of course with great pleasure that she returend to school the next day with several web and book references to said nonexistent  "VOQ"
his reply?  "I was just testing you"

THEN , same teacher, assigned a prohject where the kids had to make up a menu as if they were opening a diner in Mestopotamia.  She got a 90.  He took off 10 points because she had included two items with duck on the menu. He wrote in the margin, "ducks only exist in North America".  Today she is bringing in some printouts showing    him all the places ducxks are native to, including , yes , Ancient Mesopotamia!! (She plans to demand those 10 points back as well!)

Well, I hope she gets BONUS points!  And if she doesn't get those 10 points back, I think a trip to the principal's office will be in order!

*Could her teacher possibly be vegetarian? ;)


That story reminds me of a rather well-known director I happened to be playing auditions for a few years ago...

An actor came in and sang, "Ilona", from She Loves Me.  After the song was finished, the director complimented the actor, and asked what show that was from.  The actor said, "She Loves Me".

-"Oh, is that a new one?  Who wrote that?"

-And the director never really understood the strange look on the actor's face when he asked that question.

I'm not saying that one has to know every musical ever written, but if you're making your living directing major musicals, well...
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: JoseSPiano on December 21, 2004, 10:11:02 AM
...And after that "Fre---", I think I'm going to go work on my Christmas cards now...  Yeah, I think it would be good to get them done today. ;)

*I used to do New Year's Cards - sort of a European thing.  It was always just easier to get the cards done the day after Christmas - or even on Christmas Day if a pocket of time presented itself.  And I just like the idea of "extending" the holiday so to speak.

-Of course, at this rate, some of my Christmas cards may end up being New Year's cards...

Laters...
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Jrand74 on December 21, 2004, 10:44:36 AM
Good news about your Father, DRJOSE.

What part did Spirtas play in VOD 1994....must have been the syndicated  tv series.....  My guess would be Tony Polar.

Still warm here today 34 degrees F.  Snow after midnight.  

DRMBARNUM thanks for the Allison DVD of her performance on LARAMIE.   Too bad it wasn't in color since it was filmed that way.  Her part is very strange, although as usual, she looks great!  And Meena's movie was wonderful as well.  

Looks like I am the only one who didn't "get" the rest of Ryan's performance in What If?  But that's okay - just the type of performance I respond to in a negative way - always do, but it's subjective, ya know!

Lovely picture DRPANNI - and Mr BK are we going to have pictures of the Christmas Eve do?  

DRNOEL and RLP are away from their computers, hopefully they will be back soon.

Where is JMK today.....and let's have more information about the Hawaiian production of STARCROSSED por favor!
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: MBarnum on December 21, 2004, 10:56:53 AM
Glad you enjoyed Meena Kumari's film, JRand54. It wasn't her best film, but it was very colorful and I thought the costumes were quite nice.

Allison didn't have a very good role in that Laramie episode...when I see Allison in a show I want it to be all Allison all the time!

I don't know if I "got" Ryan in What If? either...I was too busy watching Paul! (I am obsessed, but I can't help it!).
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: MBarnum on December 21, 2004, 10:58:14 AM
OH, JRand54, there is a poll on AIP starlets on that Classic Horror Film board I e-mailed a link to you a the other week. I voted for Allison of course, and last I looked she was leading (it is in the 1950s Horror/Sci-Fi folder).
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: elmore3003 on December 21, 2004, 11:26:33 AM

When I finally get a chance to sit down and relax in front of the set, I think maybe I'll watch one of the greatest of all holiday movies - THE SNAKE PIT.  :D

LOL, DRMattH!
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Post by: elmore3003 on December 21, 2004, 11:30:09 AM
Danke.

I'm just trying to figure out how many cities POTO will be opening in tomorrow?  All the ads say "selected cities" December 22, then wide release in January.  But I keep hearing from friends in various parts of the country right now that are planning on seeing it tomorrow.  Heck, even two movie theatres in Richmond are showing it a midnight tonight!  I guess it's nice to know that Richmond has made the "selected cities" list.

Well, my lovely goddaughter Charlotte and I are seeing it at noon at the great Ziegfeld theatre tomorrow.  It's her second time, and she loved it.  I'm a bit alarmed:  unlike me, she found the loathsome VAN HELSING awesome.

DRJose, good news about your Father!  I hope he continues to improve.
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Post by: Jrand74 on December 21, 2004, 11:30:56 AM
Of course she is!
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: elmore3003 on December 21, 2004, 11:32:43 AM

I don't know if I "got" Ryan in What If? either...I was too busy watching Paul! (I am obsessed, but I can't help it!).

Oy!
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: elmore3003 on December 21, 2004, 11:44:45 AM

Looks like I am the only one who didn't "get" the rest of Ryan's performance in What If?  But that's okay - just the type of performance I respond to in a negative way - always do, but it's subjective, ya know!


DRJRand54, it looks to me like you and I are the only ones who have commented on his performance, and I think the jury's still out with other viewers.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Charles Pogue on December 21, 2004, 11:47:46 AM
Favourite books of 2004:

SIR JOHN GIELGUD: A LIFE IN LETTERS...correspondence from the thirties up till his death...fascinating look into his theatrical and private life...wonderfully gossipy and bitchy as well as great insights into the theatre and theatrical figures of the 20th century.

A POUND OF PAPER...John Baxter's memoir about being a book collector.  Fun because he and I know so many of the same people in the LA and London Book trade.  I am also mentioned in it...in the appendix where he asks notable book collectors what one book would they save from their library, if the house caught fire.

THE WORLD'S DESIRE by Rider Haggard...A re-discovery of this wonderful book this year.  Haggard stirs deep, deep waters.

PILLOWMAN by Martin McDonagh...a play I brougth back with me from London.  Brilliant.  Funny, frightening, moving.

THE EAGLE & THE RAVEN by Pauline Gedge...a massive historical epic (900 pages) about Roman Britain featuring the exploits of Caratacus and Boudicca.

THE OCTOBER HORSE by Colleen McCullough.  Not the best book in her First Man in Rome series, but the final book that ends a wonderful series of six historical epics, detailing the reigns of Marius, Sulla, and Caesar.

HOGFATHER by Terry Pratchett...one of Pratchett's funny, smart novels about Disc world where Death takes over for their version of Santa Claus.

FORTY SINGING SEAMEN & OTHER  POEMS by Alfred Noyes.  A old beautifully illustrated collection of Noyes' poems which includes my favourite poem of all time, THE HIGHWAYMAN.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Jennifer on December 21, 2004, 11:57:27 AM
Wow, where are all the posts today?

Before I forget, DR Der Brucer, I meant to say yesterday that of course I recognized Chateau Frontenac (although I must have missed seeing it in the original post). However, I live in Montreal, not Quebec City.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Panni on December 21, 2004, 11:58:37 AM
I just got an excellent late Hanukah/early Christmas present. The studio (WB) and all the various producing entities (and there are quite a few) just signed off on the outline I did and I can officially go to actually writing the script after one more nuts and bolts meeting in the new year.
The bad news is that the meeting will probably be on the phone and not in New York. Putting aside the fact that I'd love to go to NY on the studio's dime, it really would be so much more productive to actually be sitting in the same room with the many people I have to meet with. The give and take of ideas flows so much more freely and easily when you're sitting face-to-face.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: bk on December 21, 2004, 12:04:22 PM
I'm back.  First off, thanks to all who have been sweet enough (and kind enough) to mention Kritzer Time and Writer's Block, both of which, amazingly, came out in 2004.

So, this morning I headed over to the Dome and for the first time since 1959 saw Scent of Mystery on the big Dome curved screen.  Well, not exactly.  Here's the story.

They'd put the film on big platters, but one of the platters had a problem, so they had to lop off the first two minutes of the film - a shame.  Scent of Mystery had no credits - it went directly from the Overture to the aerial shot that opens the film.  However, what we saw (once they got the projecter threaded - an ordeal, as it wasn't the projectionist who runs 70mm) was called Holiday in Spain, about which more in a minute.  When they finall began running the film they had the wrong lens on, which made the image very small.  They then tried a succession of lenses, but ended up using one that didn't fill the entire Dome screen - too bad.  The print was just about completely faded, but given that it was shot in Todd AO, it was breathtakingly sharp.  And even though the amazing eight track sound was not balanced or complete (these fellows just didn't seem to know anything about the 70mm set up), it was so brilliantly recorded it sounded incredible even with the faults.  They don't do better today.  More below.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: bk on December 21, 2004, 12:09:07 PM
Which brings us to Holiday in Spain.  When Scent of Mystery and Smell-o-Vision flopped hugely (the film only played five or six engagements, all very short) it was sold to the Cinerama corporation.  They retitled the film, did a transfer that "split" the image into three separate 35mm strips and showed it as a "Cinerama" film.  But, unfortunately, that's not all they did.  As I watched I was horrified to hear added narration by Denholm Elliot, basically explaining everything we are seeing on the screen, and then filling in the plot holes because Holiday in Spain is a good thirty to forty minutes shorter than Scent of Mystery.  The narration is awful and basically ruins the film.  Scent of Mystery wasn't great, but like Around the World, it is beautiful as a travelogue and the mystery story is fun (along with the smells - you can solve the mystery with your nose).  
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: bk on December 21, 2004, 12:13:20 PM
I knew I was seeing a shortened version as soon as the Intermission happened.  I never ever doubt my memory for things in my childhood, because I'm never ever wrong in my remembrances, which is why the Kritzer books are so authentic.  I talk about Scent of Mystery at some length.  Of course, the Overture is gone in Holiday in Spain, but the intermission comes at a place that just seemed so wrong (a freeze frame in the middle of a fight), and I leaned over to my friend and told him that was absolutely not what I remembered and then I described the scene that I thought DID lead to the intermission in quite a bit of detail.  Then I began to doubt my memories - and I even thought, maybe the narration was always there.  However, twenty minutes later, the scene I'd described in quite some detail occured and it was obvious that I'd remembered perfectly and that that was the original intermission point (there's an abrupt cutaway where the camera dollies in to a gun, as we've discovered that a leading character is not who we thought they were).  
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: bk on December 21, 2004, 12:19:10 PM
After that scene, the film lasted exactly another fifteen minutes.  So, obviously most of the cuts were post-intermission - probably twenty to thirty minutes worth.  If you look at the list of smells in the souvenir program, you can clearly see that many of the second half smell scenes weren't there.  

All that said, the performances were delightful - Denholm Elliot was dashing as Lucky Larker, Diana Dors has a brief but memorable scene, Paul Lukas is fun, as is Leo McKern, and Peter Lorre as a cabbie is brilliant (he's basically the co-star of the film).  And I don't think I'm giving anything away when I say that the final reveal of the "mystery" woman, who we've only seen from behind for the entire film, is Elizabeth Taylor.  The film also has a delightful score by Mario Nascimbene.  The photography actually takes your breath away at times, even with the faded color.  There are many Cinerama-like moments in the film, where you feel like the roller coaster ride in This is Cinerama.  

We're now trying to ascertain whether the negative that's in storage is Holiday in Spain or Scent of Mystery - there are apparently quite a few cans of negative and sound material in cans and boxes.  If it's the latter, then we're going to try and interest a DVD company in doing a 70mm transfer (we'd totally be able to fix the color and have it perfect).
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Post by: bk on December 21, 2004, 12:19:26 PM
And that's the story of my morning.
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Post by: DERBRUCER on December 21, 2004, 12:33:37 PM
Holiday Shopping Tip #1

For the youngsters:
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Now, I know there are some in the liberal elite who frown on incorporating a falafel into hot sex, especially when it comes to teaching kids how to have hot sex with a falafel, but those high-minded intellectuals are so out of touch with today’s society that I don’t really care what they think. They wouldn’t know hot sex if it drove up on their lawn in a big falafel truck. So let them be pissy about it; but don’t let them ruin your hot sex with a falafel.

So as I was saying, kids, you have to be prepared before starting a task. With that in mind you must know how to make a falafel before you use it for hot sex. Here then is a simple recipe that will help get you on your way.

Ingredients
    ¾ cup dried chickpeas
    1 large onion, coarsely chopped
    2 garlic cloves, coarsely chopped
    4 tablespoons coarsely chopped parsley
    5000 mg of Levitra®
    1 teaspoon cumin seeds, crushed
    1 teaspoon coriander seeds, crushed
    ½ teaspoon baking powder
    Salt and ground black pepper
    Oil for deep frying and putting on sex parts.
    Pita bread, salad and yogurt, to serve.

Preparation

Put the chickpeas in a bowl of cold water and let sit overnight.

Drain the chickpeas and cover with water in a pan. Bring to a boil. Boil rapidly for 10 minutes. Reduce heat and let simmer for about 1 hour or until they’re soft like boobs. Drain, and then take off your pants.

Place the cooked chickpeas in a food processor with the onion, garlic, parsley, Levitra®, cumin, coriander, and baking powder. Add salt and pepper to taste. Process until the mixture thickens and forms a paste.

(Above extracted from  Yankee Pot Roast (http://www.yankeepotroast.org/))

der Brucer
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: DERBRUCER on December 21, 2004, 12:36:09 PM
Holiday Shopping Tip #2

For that special someone  (not dating BK):

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or

(http://prodtn.cafepress.com/7/12975287_B_tn.jpg)

der Brucer
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: DERBRUCER on December 21, 2004, 12:40:08 PM
Holiday Shopping Tip #3

For the the gracious host(ess):

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Selected Tips from
Emily Post's
Etiquette for Ukrainian Dinner Parties

Guests should be seated beside their spouses and opposite their assassins.

Use a darkly colored tablecloth, so that spilt wine or bodily fluids are less noticeable.

The large spoon is for soup, the medium spoon for eye-gouging, and the smallest spoon is not to be used until coffee or tea after the meal.

When pulling the ol’ switcheroo, always start with the poisoned goblet to the left of the victim. Goblets should be swapped in a counterclockwise flourish.

Salad is too early to kill, dessert too late.

When choking or strangling, see to it that the victim’s chair is first pulled back six inches from the dinner table, so that his flailing arms and legs do not upset the place setting.

Keep some rolls of paper towels nearby, so as not to ruin the fancy napkins mopping up blood.

When serving poisoned soup, always serve from over the victim’s right side.

If stabbing a guest, do so under the table so that no blood will splatter bystanders or their meals.

After successfully killing your mark, do not shout any victory whoops or slogans in favor your cause. It is uncouth to shout at the dinner table.

Keep the music low enough to maintain pleasant conversation, but loud enough to veil the gurgles of a wounded victim. Bach seldom fails.

No hats.

Always wait for a suitable lull in conversation before stabbing with a butter knife. (Tip: For effectiveness, butter knives should be inserted between the third and fourth ribs.)

Dioxins and dry white wines are best served at a temperature between 8º and 10º centigrade.

Avoid discussion of politics or religion in mixed company, or at least until after those with differing opinions have been brutally dealt with.

Don’t sit next to Rasputin.

(This, too, courtesy of  Yankee Pot Roast (http://www.yankeepotroast.org/))

der Brucer
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: MBarnum on December 21, 2004, 12:50:04 PM
BK, I am so glad you got to see your Scent of Mystery movie...even if it was a bit butchered!

It would certainly be wonderful if you could get the other print on to DVD! Perhaps Image would be interested. If they can release SCUM OF THE EARTH and BOWANGA, BOWANGA, I would certainly think they could find an interest in SCENT OF MYSTERY!
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Post by: Panni on December 21, 2004, 01:05:31 PM
Here's a link to an interesting SCENT OF MYSTERY ARTICLE (http://www.in70mm.com/news/2004/todd_jr/interview.htm)
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: JoseSPiano on December 21, 2004, 01:11:00 PM
DR DERBRUCER - Hmm... I think I'll pass on those Holiday Shopping Tips...

Isn't it time to walk the dogs? ;)
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Post by: JoseSPiano on December 21, 2004, 01:14:00 PM
Good Afternoon!

Well, I put on some Christmas CDs, and got a nice stack of Christmas cards done!  I shall drop them off at the nice, big, regional post office - which is basically across the street from my parents' house - on the way into the show tonight.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on December 21, 2004, 01:17:48 PM
OH! OH! OH!

I finally put in the CD of the demo of BUS AND TRUCK!  -I have no idea what took me so long to do that?!?!?  In any case...

A totally enjoyable listening experience was had by all.  All being me, myself and I.

:D
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Matt H. on December 21, 2004, 01:19:23 PM
DRJRand54, it looks to me like you and I are the only ones who have commented on his performance, and I think the jury's still out with other viewers.

I commented on Saturday night or Sunday morning that I thought he was not a good match with "Chinese Food in Bed." I didn't comment on the rest of the performance, but I have to say I found him bursting with energy and quite an asset to the production otherwise. And I think his voice is superior to Paul's, not that it's a competition in the least. And I don't say that to denegrate Paul in any way, either. All of the performers made it a very special show.
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Post by: JMK on December 21, 2004, 01:21:43 PM
I am here....finally.  I was up at the crack of dawn this morning (no mean feat, or even feet) to play not one, but two, early morning gigs.  Ugh.  The second was a set of auditions for a new rock musical based on Siddhartha.  This theater company used me about a year ago to play their first set of auditions for a workshop production of this show.  They were doing these group auditions with lots of body exercises, and they were doing all these very weird movements that reminded me of Betsy's cousin, who is one of the best known mimes and Commedia Dell'Arte movement instructors in the world.  I kept thinking, "Wow, that looks like one of Danny's moves."  Now, you must realize that this company was new to Portland, had never met me and had hired me on the recommendation of another theater company I've MD'd for many times.  So anyway during a break two of the company's employees were talking and mentioned a little town in northern California where I know Danny is teaching.  And I ask them if they've studied with "Danny".  They look at me aghast and say, "Danny?  We would never call him Danny!"  But it turns out they had been studying with him for two years and one of them had actually been his administrative assistant.  So that is my small world story of the morning (actually a year old, but I'm telling it this morning).

To JR re:  Starcrossed.  Now, now, I only said I might be getting that present.  Nothing is finalized (or even formally beginningized, really), it's just looking very promising, so keep fingers crossed and/or starcrossed.
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Post by: Matt H. on December 21, 2004, 01:28:38 PM
I got all of my last minute shopping done, and was I EVER relieved to find everything I was looking for. A friend had put on his Christmas list the combination pack of BEST IN SHOW/A MIGHTY WIND, two terrific mockumentaries by Christopher Guest. We had seen the duo pack at Media Play weeks ago, but naturally I couldn't buy it in front of him. I don't know why I waited so long to go back, since I only saw one of those combination packs of that particular movie pair at Media Play while we were there. Anyway, they still had it, and I got that plus some nifty, unusual items for his wife at Pier 1.

Now all I have to do is wrap all the gufts I've been accumulating. Argh!
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: George on December 21, 2004, 01:40:21 PM
DRJRand54, it looks to me like you and I are the only ones who have commented on his performance, and I think the jury's still out with other viewers.

Some of the jury are still waiting for the DVD to arrive. ::) MAYBE today!
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Jrand74 on December 21, 2004, 01:46:03 PM
Thanks for the interesting article DRPANNI.....why is it that everyone who is interviewed about anything assumes responsibility for everything good that happened?  Mike Todd got Shirley Jones the lead in the OKLAHOMA! film?  LOL....oh well.....

I would love to see SCENT OF MYSTERY on DVD....and I would even like to see THIS IS CINERAMA...even though it wouldn't be ... on TV.

Glad you got the DVD's, MATTH.  Isn't it nice when gift-buying turns out well?

So who is on the guest list for your Eve Do, MR BK?  And can we have photos?

For DR CHARLES POGUE - if you happen to see your friend Mr Harlan Ellison....what did he think of "Bracken's World" - he mentioned it in a couple of his TV review anthologies, but never got around to publishing his thoughts, that I can find.  I would love to hear his take on it.

Snow tonight.....
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Jrand74 on December 21, 2004, 01:47:22 PM
Media Play - we had two of them in the Indianapolis area that were open a little more than a year....then closed up....  I liked their selection, but thought they were a bit pricier than Best Buy particularly on their CD's.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: MBarnum on December 21, 2004, 01:55:45 PM
We had a media play here, also, and I love that store...what a selection they had! It also closed after a year or so and I was very sad  :'(

Yes, BK, please post the guest list for your Christmas Eve bash...perhaps Jrand54 and I will crash it...in spirit, anyway.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Matt H. on December 21, 2004, 01:56:18 PM
Media Play - we had two of them in the Indianapolis area that were open a little more than a year....then closed up....  I liked their selection, but thought they were a bit pricier than Best Buy particularly on their CD's.

I think they are, DR JRand. I ordinarily don't shop there as their prices on CDs and DVDs seems a couple of dollars higher than other places. But this buy-two-movies-for-one-low-price pack has the same price just about everywhere I have checked, and Media Play was even 50 cents cheaper than AMazon which was my alternative. If I couldn't find them at Media Play today, I was going to give him my copies to unwrap and then give him the pack when it finally came from Amazon.

Glad I didn't have to do that.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: MBarnum on December 21, 2004, 01:57:34 PM
No snow here, but did have to scrape frost off of my car this morning.

My buddy Jim is on his way to Indiana at this moment to spend Christmas with his family. His family lives in the midst of Klan country, he says.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Matt H. on December 21, 2004, 01:57:51 PM
BTW, I noticed that DE-LOVELY is out this week on DVD.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Matt H. on December 21, 2004, 01:59:00 PM
I'd also love to see SCENT OF MYSTERY. Sounds like just a fun movie, and I hope doing a scavenger hunt through those tins unearths something worthwhile.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: JoseSPiano on December 21, 2004, 02:00:50 PM
Good Afternoon!

-It's almost time for me to start getting ready to head into the theatre...  I always aim to get in a little earlier than usual since the traffic around here around the holidays can be most unpredictable.  -Too many shopping centers, not enough highways.

DR JRand - I got an e-mail today, and it looks like I may be coming into Clowes Hall in the spring for a week or two!  :)  I'll keep you posted.  -Does "Clowes" rhyme with "Lowes" or with "boughs"?

DR MBarnum - You obsessed?  Pshaw! ;)

And that's all for now folks...

Laters...

Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Kerry on December 21, 2004, 02:03:59 PM
Aside from any books written by BK himmself, the best and most satisfying book I read ths year was "Almost Like Being In Love" by Steve Kluger--- sweet, romantic, funny.  It made me feel good all over.

I have stacks of books hither and yon (mostly hither) waiting to be read.   I did like the book about the making of "Follies" (was it called "When Everything Was possible"?) Very informative.

There was one book a friend lent me which was something about the nephew of Gertrude Stein.  I have blocked the title from my mind but attmepted to read it for months and finally gave up (something I rarely do), but I could not get into the book at all.

I must go make some more frosting and finsh frosting the cookies.   There are a couple of hundred waitng to be frosted.  Any volunteers?
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Jrand74 on December 21, 2004, 02:10:43 PM
LOL.....the latest WRITER'S BLOCK review from a mystery person certainly falls under the heading of "sour grapes" - for someone who seems to have animosity toward MR BK - the writer is certainly VERY familiar with and spends a lot of time Inter-netting MR BK.

"Cora" welcome and I hope you are enjoying your searches.  I doubt that you have accomplished ANYTHING on your own - if you have published a book or written and/or directed a movie, please let us know so that we can join websites in order to specifically write a review of what you have done.

Interesting that your only review on Amazon is of BK's book.  Couldn't wait to diss it, huh?  LOL...have a nice holiday.   Sad, sad, sad.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Jrand74 on December 21, 2004, 02:14:53 PM
DRJOSE that would be wonderful.  Would love to meet you in person and do a dinner or two.   Hmmmmmmmmm.....what show?  Hmm....MILLIE?

Surprisingly enough- Clowes Hall - it is announced Clews.....as in the game!  Family name.  It was built in 1963 and was also the site of concerts by Barbra Streisand early in her career (she was castigating her conductor as the curtain came down for being behind her tempo) and a concert by Judy Garland in 1967 where she met Frances Farmer in the aisle as she ran down to start the show.....she ran past her, ran back and they chatted for five minutes while the orchestra vamped.

It's a lovely hall, intimate for it's size, with tremendous accoustics!
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Jrand74 on December 21, 2004, 02:18:41 PM
Or is it MAMMA MIA! ?
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: bk on December 21, 2004, 02:22:04 PM
I had a yen for McDonald's, so I went there and ordered my usual Filet o' Fish.  Unfortunately, they don't take yen, so I had to pay them in dollars.

What's very interesting on the site Panni gave a link to (with the interview with Mike Todd, Jr.) is that if you scroll down on the right it has links to other Scent of Mystery articles on the web - one of them linking right here to haineshisway.com and a notes from May of 2003.  I wrote extensively about it, and that ended up going into Kritzer Time later that year.   So, as the Sherman Brothers said, It's a Small World.  It also links to an abridged version of the Variety review, which states the film's running time as 125 minutes.  That means the print we saw today, Holiday in Spain, is approximately twenty-five minutes shorter.  Makes sense, as they showed a short subject with it as Holiday in Spain.  I think a lot of what they cut were scenes where the smells occur, which might have seemed superfluous to the main action.  Still, I'm hoping one day we get to see the uncut version.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Matthew on December 21, 2004, 02:26:46 PM
Would it help if someone reported this review as not being helpful to the book?  After all, it doesn't review the book, just how this person feels about the author.  
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Jrand74 on December 21, 2004, 02:34:45 PM
LOL....DR MATTHEW I already voted it as not helpful, but Amazon doesn't have a process by which you can protest a review.  That's okay, it's obvious what, if not WHO, the reviewer is.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Charles Pogue on December 21, 2004, 02:35:56 PM
While anyone is perfectly privileged to give a bad review of a book, such a review might have more credibility if they actually reviewed the book and not the author.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: elmore3003 on December 21, 2004, 02:43:38 PM
Ah, Cora! Cora! Cora!  Just one more four-letter word beginning with C.  With that axe she's grinding, she ought to call herself Lizzie Borden.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Jane on December 21, 2004, 02:52:13 PM
MBarnum, thank you.

Panni I enjoyed the photos from last night.  
Bruce I adore you too but sorry, Rachel looked far prettier at 7:00 in the morning while still half asleep. ;D

Jay, I wish I could have enjoyed the lights at the park with you, DRLaura and Sandra.  It has been years and years since I have been there.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: JMK on December 21, 2004, 02:58:06 PM
Clowes Hall - it is announced Clews.....

Boy, good thing I threw out all those "ose" rhymes.  Clowes Hall, to bring things full circle, is the setting for Starcrossed.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Charles Pogue on December 21, 2004, 03:00:26 PM
Oh, please, people!  Why should there be a process by which you should protest a review?  Or even say one was not helpful?  Let the reviews speak for themselves and just be perceptive in your analysis of them.  

To start reviewing reviews and debating their merits then very much does get into factionalism and starts to look like sycophancy and vendetta. The fans claim this/ the non-fans insist this.

If you're going to open up the public webstream for every asshole who has an opinion then that's just what you're going to get and  you're just going to have to live with the consequences...people with informed opinions and people without informed opinions. People with a clue and people without.  People who know how to review and people who don't.  Gushing fans who are going to gush about anything their particular idols do and people with axes to grind against certain individuals.

We've always had critics.  Unfortunately, we now live in a society where we think everyone is entitled to their opinion whether it is informed or not...that's why you'll get people who come on talk radio and think Mark Fuhrman killed Nicole Simpson.  Why incendiary morons like the Swift Boat Veterans get air time.  Why half of the United States think Iraq was behind the 9/ll attacks.

My problem with Cora's review is not that it's negative, but that it's not a review.  Why did she give the book only two stars?  She has only one line in the review that speaks to the book and doesn't back up her statements with any examples as to why she holds her opinion.  As of now the only reason we can discern is that she doesn't like the author.  So I think that sort of review speaks for itself and is pretty obvious to all but mindless cretins.

One has to be their own discriminating critic when it comes to gauging reviews.  Personally, while some reviews on Amazon are very astute and well-thought-out, sites like this are not where I go to get intelligent critiques of anything....whether it's for books, movies, or dvds.  I prefer to read trained professional critics who actually have some literary insight and skill in their field.  Not amateurs...spewing their likes and dislikes in a public forum where any yahoo, despite his knowledge, can vent.

You can say anything you want about a book as long as you can prove it in the text.
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Post by: Jane on December 21, 2004, 03:04:16 PM
Hisaka the roses are beautiful.

Jose continued good recovery vibes for your father-pleased to know he is up.

Vixmom-good for your daughter.  

Panni congrats on the goods news, even if you won't be going to NY.
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Post by: Michael on December 21, 2004, 03:05:37 PM
Books I enjoyed:
Writer's Block
Everything was Possible
Morden's Broadway in 70's

Books I did not
The Kander and EBb Bio
Ethan Mordern's slip shod broadway history from 80-2004. It was sorta like Mandelbaum's Not Since Carrie.
Da Vinci Code


Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Jrand74 on December 21, 2004, 03:06:17 PM
Ain't it the truth, DR 's CP and ELMORE.....
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Michael on December 21, 2004, 03:06:38 PM
DR> Jose

Glad to hear about about her father's improvement. I know what that is like
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Post by: Jrand74 on December 21, 2004, 03:17:57 PM
Nevermind
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Matthew on December 21, 2004, 03:18:32 PM
DR Charles  -  I agree with you about Cora's review.  I don't believe that  something like that should be posted on a book review section for any author.  
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: elmore3003 on December 21, 2004, 03:23:05 PM
Ain't it the truth, DR 's CP and ELMORE.....

I read the "review" Cora posted, and it made me angry.  It's a lot of personal venting against BK and nothing to do with the book.  I guess Amazon.com is providing "Cora" with a soapbox she can't find anywhere else.  

The thing that pissed me off today was Dubya's press conference after the attack in Iraq today.  I hate this war, I hate this administration, and I hate it that a lot of folk who deserve so much better are getting a body bag for Christmas.  That's my rant!
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Jrand74 on December 21, 2004, 03:27:10 PM
LOL as DRCP pointed out....the things written about the book are positive...

Oh tonight is THE AMAZING RACE at 8 pm EST....an hour earlier than usual!
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Jrand74 on December 21, 2004, 03:27:34 PM
YES JMK, those rhymes would have been unfortunate.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Charles Pogue on December 21, 2004, 03:32:52 PM
Matthew, you may think that sort of review should not be posted in a book review section for ANY author...and I agree.  And if it was a legitimate book review section of a newspaper or magazine or even a serious literary website, it wouldn't have been.  At best, it would have made the letters to the editor section, if at all.

But, sorry, Amazon is not a literary review site, it is a marketing site that sells books.  And review section is not really a literary review section, but frankly, it is a letters to the editor/op-ed page...where any nitpick is allowed to express his view...however ignorant, however dumb, however malicious.  

I'm sure there are even far worse reviews and far less intelligible ones on Amazon.  It's absurd to think that Amazon has the resources or even interest to scourge all the idiot, crap reviews of the hundreds of thousands or millions there most be for all the books they sell.

So you're just going to have to consider the source and save your offended sensibility for something a bit more earth-shatering than someone who doesn't have the basic skills to do a proper review.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Charles Pogue on December 21, 2004, 04:01:19 PM
Well, actually, I don't think all the things written about the book are positive and I don't think I pointed such out.  I just don't understand why everybody is getting their knickers in a twist over something so inconsquential as yet another malcontent on yet another public internet forum venting their spleen against private enemies.  This happens everyday.  Pardon me, but who the fuck cares?  Only an idiot can't see that this person has a personal animosity towards Kimmel and that is the source and essence of the review.

And quite frankly, I don't know all that many people who choose their reading material, trolling through the reviews of Amazon's readers.  Bruce got his last sales spike when someone (who I believe was a columnist or critic) gave it a legitimate review on a site of some authority and weight.

Elmore, I share your anger over the current crap that continues with this Administration.   More is my anger over the lack of outrage by the American public about Bush's many-fold and continued failures in every aspect of his administration and particularly the war in Iraq.  Don Rumsfeld doing a good job?  Ha!  It is blatantly transparent the man is an insensitive, curmudgeonly incompetent and has failed miserably.  Today there was a front-page article in the LA Times on the FBI compaining about the abuses by military personal to Iraqi prisoners both in Iraq and Guantanmo that continue to go on in concert with the White House & Rumsfeld's tacit approval.  I turn on CNN.  Nothing about it.  Fox.  Nothing about it (naturally).  The BBC is the only one who has anything on it! This story should be wiping everything else aside.  This alone should be enough to oust Rumsfeld.  Should've have been the first time.  And we impeach a President over a bj, but not this!  Talk about the rule of law being abused!

And then there's the privatization of Social Security.  Do they truly think that the average American who perpetually lives beyond his means,  has maxed out his credit cards, and is up to his eyeballs in debt is actually going to be able to privately invest for his retirement and have something to show for it when he gets his gold watch?  Who are they kidding?  The damned country can't balance a budget and keep itself solvent.  Do they really expect the ordinary citizen to do so?
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: bk on December 21, 2004, 04:01:33 PM
Well, that is an amusing "review".  It is clearly someone who knows and dislikes me, which is fine.  I do like that they "live" in Studio City, and that they obviously read these here notes and posts daily.  And since they trumpet the names "O'Connor" and "Meade" it does narrow the list down significantly, as I've never mentioned either name here on this site (both names have to do with certain record label).  It's not even worth commenting on because it's so blatant and obvious and bitter.  If that helps that person feel better about themselves then bravo.  One thing seems clear: They haven't read the book, so it makes writing a "review" rather silly.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: bk on December 21, 2004, 04:03:03 PM
And I'm sure they're chuckling right now reading all these comments.  Not worth getting angry over - one can only scratch one's head and then laugh and laugh at the stupidity of them actually giving the book TWO stars instead of one.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Panni on December 21, 2004, 04:17:13 PM
I'll comment on all this later. A small (not serious) emergency has come up that I have to take care of.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Jrand74 on December 21, 2004, 04:19:51 PM
What review?
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Charles Pogue on December 21, 2004, 04:19:51 PM
You're absolutely right, BK.  Because not only does it fail as a book review, but it also fails as a review of you...which is its main focus.  The legacy of the work you've done is clear, obvious, and indisputable to any who know anything about the fields you labour in and any attempt to diminish it or to characterize it as anything less than a significant contribution is just...as you say...silly.

Only another loser or another Kimmel hater is going to glean anything from this post (note:  I do not characterize it as a review)...and that's why I recommend everyone else just chill out.  No harm done here.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: bk on December 21, 2004, 04:28:55 PM
I had no idea how much Scent of Mystery material is on the Internet - most of it is just repetition of the same things, but I did find two or three items that I hadn't seen before.

People have been asking me if I know who "Cora" is - I have my suspicions, but it doesn't matter in the least.  It's Christmas time, and if all they can do is spew negativity and that makes their Christmas a more joyous one, then that is what they have to do.  My work is my work - people can like it, hate it, or feel however they will - just like with all bodies of work it's not going to please everyone.  However, "Cora" isn't criticizing my work - she's criticizing me, and that is because she probably perceives that I didn't treat her well.  
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Charles Pogue on December 21, 2004, 04:33:34 PM
And right now, she must be in masturbatory heaven because we're all talking about her.  It's makes her feel like she actually has a life.  That said, I will no more mention her.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: bk on December 21, 2004, 04:37:19 PM
I'm already zonked - this is two mornings in a row of waking up very very early.  Tomorrow I shall sleep until the cows come home.  Tonight I shall watch the original Japanese Gojira, just issued on DVD in Australia (the US version with Raymond Burr is also included).
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Noel on December 21, 2004, 04:47:15 PM
thanks to all who have been sweet enough (and kind enough) to mention Kritzer Time and Writer's Block

Certainly those were my favorites of 2004 (admittedly, I don't read a lot of books for fun - just for research)

One moved me more than any novel I've read in years (Kritzer Time), the other was seemingly written for me, so right up my alley (Shubert) it was.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: TCB on December 21, 2004, 04:49:50 PM
Certainly those were my favorites of 2004 (admittedly, I don't read a lot of books for fun - just for research)

One moved me more than any novel I've read in years (Kritzer Time), the other was seemingly written for me, so right up my alley (Shubert) it was.



Noel!  You're here!
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: bk on December 21, 2004, 04:51:28 PM
It is the season of Noel.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Jrand74 on December 21, 2004, 04:56:58 PM
WB DR NOEL!
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Kerry on December 21, 2004, 04:58:01 PM
Since no one volunteered to help me frost sugar cookies tonight, would anyone volunteer lending me their DVD of "What IF..."? :)
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Jrand74 on December 21, 2004, 04:58:08 PM
The Amazing Race is on!!!
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: elmore3003 on December 21, 2004, 05:05:33 PM
I'll comment on all this later. A small (not serious) emergency has come up that I have to take care of.

Not another collapsed rack!
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: bk on December 21, 2004, 05:10:30 PM
Welcome four GUESTS.  Could one of the GUESTS have a name with four letters ending in "a"?  
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: bk on December 21, 2004, 05:16:04 PM
Oops (spoo, spelled backwards), one GUEST just disappeared.  Oh, well.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: George on December 21, 2004, 05:16:26 PM
I'm already zonked - this is two mornings in a row of waking up very very early.  Tomorrow I shall sleep until the cows come home.  Tonight I shall watch the original Japanese Gojira, just issued on DVD in Australia (the US version with Raymond Burr is also included).

BK, where did you get it??
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Jrand74 on December 21, 2004, 05:21:31 PM
At the Gojira Stand no doubt.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: bk on December 21, 2004, 05:22:07 PM
Found it at Amoeba, here in LA.  I just checked and they have it at hmv.com.au - they have a lovely supply of Ozzie DVDs - I got two from their site yesterday.  Just search "Godzilla" and DVD, it's about half-way down the page, 50th Anniversary Edition.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Jrand74 on December 21, 2004, 05:23:49 PM
DRs PANNI and JANE - TAR teams are in Budapest tonight...it looks lovely!
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Danise on December 21, 2004, 05:38:40 PM
Hi all.

DR Jane, I’m so glad that you are home safe and sound.  I’m also glad that you had nice visit with BK, Panni and her DD.  

DR Jose, I’m also happy to read that your Dad is home and doing well.  

As for the subject of books.  I read plenty of them this year.  The Kritzer books, Writers Block, Angels and Demons, The Machine War (another Dune book), Dragonology: The Complete Book Of Dragons and smut novels by the dozen to name a few.    ;D

I'm currently reading The Da Vinci Code.  Mostly, I'll admit, because I wanted to know what everyone is talking about and so I can have an informed opinion on it.   Imagine that.  ::)

DR Elmore, I listened to my CD and LOVED it.  A question if I may?  How many musical instruments do you play?  


 
   
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: elmore3003 on December 21, 2004, 05:50:25 PM

DR Elmore, I listened to my CD and LOVED it.  A question if I may?  How many musical instruments do you play?  


DRDanise, you may ask me anything, any time.  But to your question of this evening, I play piano very badly.  I once played rather well, and when I first came to New york, I played and arranged for a trio of men from the New York City Gay Men's Chorus, Just Good Friends, which had about a year of success in the cabaret circuit around Manhattan before internal problems sank them.  

I liked playing piano socially and for my own amusement, but I suffered from dreadful stage fright.  One night while we were appearing in some beautiful restaurant on the Hudson River north of Christopher Street, I asked the bartender before the show, in a moment of idle chitchat while I was getting some soda, what he did when he wasn't tending bar and his answer was he was studying to be a concert pianist.  I felt so insecure about my playing that I screwed up the entire show, which is funny because the bartender was so busy that in retrospect I doubt he heard anything I played.  Anyway, I told the trio I would arrange and MD, but I was no longer their pianist.  Since then, I've not played much at all, and I have no skills left.  I  use the piano now only to figure out thngs I'm arranging.  I also studied violin, but I was terrible at it.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Ben on December 21, 2004, 05:57:50 PM
Well, I am finally posting something after being errant and truant for large amounts of time. I have read the daily columns but not the postings so I know little of what has transpired over the past few days.

Between a newly diagnosed diabetic dog (Anthony's parent's dog on Long Island, an 8 year old West Highland Terrier named MacGregor) and finishing holiday errands before a trip to the Isle of Long, I have not been able to read or post much. More egregiously, we have missed an opportunity to have Christmas Cheer w/DR & DF (Dear Reader and Dear Friend) Elmore before the actual holiday. We will get together sometime after the 27th of December when we return to NYC. Our tree will still be up and we will be full of Christmas and Holiday Cheer which we will spread all over the city.

I took Trumpet in 5th grade but was also terrible at it. I decided to give up musical instrument lessons in favor of acting. Good choice, me thinks.

I now must sign off and finish various and sundried things. Kerry, if we had been in AZ we would have helped frost the cookies (of course, how much frosting would have been consumed before landing on the cookies is another story entirely).

As Jose says (sometimes)

Laters
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: TCB on December 21, 2004, 06:01:25 PM
Kerry, you need to empty your mailbox (and I mean that in the nicest way).
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Jane on December 21, 2004, 06:05:01 PM
Thanks Danise.  My visit was too short, but sweet.

JRand-TAR teams in Budapest, how lucky for them.  I must admit, I had to google TAR teams. ;D

The best book I read this year is THE KITE RUNNER by Khaled Hosseini.  Now I’m waiting to find out if elmore agrees with me.  I did meet a couple of people who didn’t love it as much as I did.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: TCB on December 21, 2004, 06:05:06 PM
I think Cora made a mistake and spelled her own name wrong.  I believe she left out the "b".
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Jane on December 21, 2004, 06:06:53 PM
TCB-LOL.  I'm going to see if I can find and read the review now.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Panni on December 21, 2004, 06:07:47 PM
It's absurd to think that Amazon has the resources or even interest to scourge all the idiot, crap reviews of the hundreds of thousands or millions there most be for all the books they sell.

Well, perhaps they should. Are you suggesting that if a reader decided to "review" a work by Charles Edward Pogue by saying that he is the greatest lover in the world and a darn fine gourmet cook, or conversely, a secret member of the Klan and a wife beater, that there should be no system to stop that from going out under the Amazon banner? Like it or not, by calling it an Amazon review or a Barnes and Noble review, a kind of perceived legitimacy is given to the piece. Therefore, Amazon has the responsibility of keeping an eye on what is printed on its site.

The Cora piece is not a review but an (unsuccessful) attempt at character assassination. But, in my opinion, it would be equally distasteful if the writer had posited, in the guise of a review, that Bruce Kimmel is a noble and fine human being -- and therefore his book is the greatest thing since War and Peace.
It simply does not belong in a section reserved for opinions about a book.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: TCB on December 21, 2004, 06:09:20 PM
Jane -- Welcome back!
Noel -- Welcome back!
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Panni on December 21, 2004, 06:19:18 PM
Not another collapsed rack!

More annoying. An insurance emergency. It seems that the quaterly insurance bill for dependents - under which DD is covered - was not generated by the WGA last September. I certainly did not notice, as there was a ton of other paperwork which WAS generated, filled out and returned. To cut to the chase, it seems that, unbeknownst to me, DD has been deemed ineligible for health insurance since September. This was discovered when she went for an eye exam this afternoon and I got a call saying, "Mom, they say I'm not insured!" I had to do a lot of irate yelling, running around, and mailing checks to straighten it out. Thank goodness the lack of insurance wasn't discovered in the middle of the night in an emergency ward in Budapest!
But no collapsed rack.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Jane on December 21, 2004, 06:21:54 PM
I just read the non-review and am truly baffled why someone would write mean things like that.  Then I am always confused whenever a person intentionally says hurtful things to another person.  Tact and kindness, or nothing at all are so much better.

Bruce I’m pleased it isn’t getting to you, as it shouldn’t.

Panni, well put.

Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Jane on December 21, 2004, 06:23:30 PM
Panni, is DD now insured?
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Jane on December 21, 2004, 06:25:33 PM
TCB it is good to be back.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Panni on December 21, 2004, 06:30:00 PM
Panni, is DD now insured?

Technically, no. If there were, God forbid, an emergency tonight, the computer would probably show her as uninsured. It will take a few days to get things straight. I insisted that the woman I spoke to at the WGA call the optometrists's office and assure them that DD does have insurance. But that's actually just a technicality because with eye exams, one has to pay up front in any case, and is then reimbursed.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Hisaka on December 21, 2004, 06:32:13 PM
Thank you DR STUART.  Yes, I grow them and these are English roses named Evelyn, which gives out a gorgeous fragrance.  Took this picture in May this year.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Danise on December 21, 2004, 06:36:45 PM
DR Jane, I'm just sorry for the reason of your visit.  

I have to show you what I can do now--I’m getting dangerous.   Now that I know how to make .Gifs work on the board, my new hobby is tracking them down.  I thought the dog lovers on the board would get a kick out of this one:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v373/DofB5/dogdreams.gif)

DR Ben, I'm so sorry to hear about Anthony's parent's dog.  Get better doggie vibes.

 [move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]~~~~~~~~~[/move]

I know how you feel about stage fright, DR Elmore.  My problem is I get the shakes AFTER I've done whatever it is.  It's the dumbest thing.

Like when we do New Hire orientations at work.  Before I go “on”, I’m fine.  When I’m doing my part (about the job bulletins and how they work), everything goes like clockwork.  In the bosses car on the way back to the office everyone is laughing and joking but I’m sick and shaking like a leaf.  I can’t explain it.  It just happens.

I fear I shall always wish I could play an instrument.  I have my own ideas about sheet music that I know would make you laugh but seem perfectly logical to me.   :)  

Like middle C.  Who in the heck came up with that one? If it's going to be used as a starting point then it should be A or 1.   And while we're at it, why can't the keys be A-Z or numbers?  Why is music only A-G over and over again?   What's up sharps and flats?  It's not fair to make one black key have different names just because this time it's up from where your playing and the next time it's down.   One name per key should be the limit.  

I don't expect you to answer the above but that's some of the problems I have with reading music.  It just doesn't make sense to me.  ???

 
 

 
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Jane on December 21, 2004, 06:40:17 PM
Hisaka I'm glad Stuart thought to ask if you grew the roses-absolutely beautiful.  Pink, coral or lavender roses are my favorite.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: DERBRUCER on December 21, 2004, 06:45:37 PM
BTW, I noticed that DE-LOVELY is out this week on DVD.

Just got it at Wal-Mart for $15.96 :)

der Brucer
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: elmore3003 on December 21, 2004, 06:46:08 PM
I'm watching the Kennedy Awards right now.  Audra MacDonald and the Howard University Choirs sang "Let Us Break Bread Together" and Thomas Hampson and Paul Groves did a truncated version of the great tenor-baritone duet in Bizet's "Pearl Fishers."  God, what a glorious piece!  There was a strange bit:  John Mauceri crossed the stage and they cut for a commercial.  When the program resumed, Steven Spielberg was introducing John Williams!

DRDanise, I wouldn't know where to begin after your analysis of the keyboard and the scale!  It's rather like my analyses of economics, banking, astrophysics and other things far beyond my ken.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Danise on December 21, 2004, 06:46:13 PM
Hisaka, I'll have to show you a picture of my prize (since I haven't killed it--yet) Michael Crawford Rose.  It's my pride and joy.  It also has a very nice odor to it.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Jane on December 21, 2004, 06:51:56 PM
Danise, I’m impressed.  Echo has her own approach to walking me, she simply takes the leash in her mouth and pulls.  It is too cute for words.

Ben how old is Anthony’s parent’s dog?  Are his parents up to treating the dog?  

I need to make a cheesecake now.  












Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Danise on December 21, 2004, 06:54:00 PM
DRDanise, I wouldn't know where to begin after your analysis of the keyboard and the scale!  It's rather like my analyses of economics, banking, astrophysics and other things far beyond my ken.

That's ok, DR Elmore.  I've drove more than one music teacher mad with my "questions".  LOL.  

spoo.  I just looked at the time.  I have to wuss.  Sorry guys but 5:30 AM comes early around these parts.  Talk with you tomorrow.  
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Panni on December 21, 2004, 06:54:23 PM
DR Jane - I love your tribute to ECHO-ECHO-ECHO....
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Danise on December 21, 2004, 06:55:09 PM
Wow, Jane is really, really, really impressed!!!   :) ;) :D ;D
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Jane on December 21, 2004, 07:02:28 PM
Very strange, I typed on word document, copied and pasted.  Nothing showed.  I did that several times and nothing seemed to copy.  I just had to modify my post, it seems I was typing with invisible ink and once I posted the words appeared, over and over and over again. ;D




Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Michael on December 21, 2004, 07:14:31 PM
We should all go to the amazon site and vote no that the review was not helpful
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Charles Pogue on December 21, 2004, 07:29:25 PM
Panni, if someone chose to assasinate my character in a forum such as Amazon book reviews section, I'd have the right to decide to sue him/her (and Amazon, I suppose...though I wouldn't win that, I expect) for slander or libel or whatever it would be.

But you know what, I get trashed worse than this on certain screenplay sites all the time.  I merely consider the source, as do the other readers.

Amazon cannot possibly ride herd on the unwieldy mess  of millions of daily reviews.  And, if people did start suing them over opinion pieces (which is what these are), it would merely shut down the whole section so that they need not deal with it at all and open themselves up to such time-wasting crap and expectations.  

Personally, if I'm trying to sell books, I wouldn't open a review section up anyway...Why allow people to slam the product you're trying to sell?  I'd do like every movie and Broadway show producer does...just slug the book's page with positive review excerpts or blurbs.

But, quite frankly, it's no easy thing to prove either libel or slander, I doubt BK could win a case given what is posted there.  I doubt he'd want to wast money trying.
 
If Bruce spoke to someone at Amazon as the author, requesting the review be removed, I don't know whether that would carry any weight or not.  But I think he is responding in exactly the way he should.  If an ant gets in your way, either ignore it or step on it. But don't wring your hands over it.  Besides, he apparently has enough people on this site to seethe with umbrage over this nothing person for him. All you who get outraged play into her hands and give the attention she wants...which is what this is really about.  So why should BK lose sleep over something and someone so utterly inconsequential?  How many people do you think actually visit an individual book page like this?  It's not like it's a review in the New York Times book section.  

I've never, never decided to buy a book because of the reviews I've read on Amazon.  That's what I want to do...take the opinion of an anonymous amateur reviewer I know nothing about.  That's making an informed decision.

I don't think any reasonable, book-buying, literate person thinks because these go out under the banner of Amazon or Barnes and Noble, they have any real legitimacy as a serious review.  How could they? Some sound like they would have been written in crayon, if they weren't posting on the internet.

You can't protect people from stupidity, ignorance, or verbal vehemence.  And I'm tired of this nanny state where everyone wants to play victim and claim that someone else should be protecting them, looking out for them, and overseeing that nothing offends them.  What a bunch of cry-babies we've become.  Read the front page of the newspaper; there's real stuff to get outraged over.

If someone has crossed the line into slander or libel,  there are recourses for such thing.  Other than that, it's sorry little loser trying to get somebody to notice them and any intelligent person will realize that and give it the weight its due.  
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Hisaka on December 21, 2004, 07:29:36 PM
Hisaka, I'll have to show you a picture of my prize (since I haven't killed it--yet) Michael Crawford Rose.  It's my pride and joy.  It also has a very nice odor to it.


DR DANISE: Look forward to seeing the picture. I've never seen any roses having male name. It's interesting.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Matt H. on December 21, 2004, 07:37:47 PM
DR elmore, your story about your piano skills diminishing certainly hit a chord with me. (no pun intended)

 I was at one time a pretty fair pianist. Played just about every night for entertainment and to learn new pieces. Then, the personal computer came into my life, and almost overnight, I stopped playing. Now, I can pick out notes in a score of a show I'm rehearsing, but as for actually sitting down and playing entire pieces, I'm afraid those days are over now.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Matt H. on December 21, 2004, 07:41:38 PM
Sad to say, the shrink wrap didn't come off of THE SNAKE PIT today. Instead, I caught up with some things I had recorded on the DVR for the past few days. And I have a dinner party to go to tomorrow night (with gift exchange), so I probably won't get it watched tomorrow, either.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Jrand74 on December 21, 2004, 07:43:12 PM
DR CP - your points are well taken, but you are coming dangerously close to hurting the feelings of we illiterate, inconsequential, yahoos who actually do spend some time working on our reviews posted on Amazon and other internet sites.

And although you are also correct in that what the referenced review wanted to accomplish - namely a discussion here - was something that we gave in to - as a writer of a review of the same book, I thought I should comment on it.  NOT AT AMAZON, no....but here the home of the author of the book.

No one who writes, acts, or places his name in a public forum should expect praise all the time.  But if someone kicks my friend's dog - even if the kicker is dumb - I can still tell my friend I'm sorry it happened.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: JMK on December 21, 2004, 07:44:29 PM
Re:  piano.  Thankfully, though I am not doing a 7 night a week gig like I did for 9 years here on a cruiseboat, I still maintain a certain skill level.  What I've noticed is that my fingers are a lot stiffer than they used to be, which doesn't help.  I also find it very interesting that when I am forced to sightread cold, as I did this morning (and I mean cold in every sense--it was bitterly cold this morning in Portland), that I somehow circumvent my conscious brain and kind of go into automatic playing mode and I literally don't even really "think" about what my fingers are doing.

Re:  negativity.  I got some disturbing word today that I have evidently been stolen from.  Quite blatantly, by someone I trusted.  I am very sad and am wondering about various recourses.  I suppose it's best to let this kind of thing go.  You know the old adage:  harboring a grudge/wanting revenge is like taking poison and expecting the other person to die.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Jane on December 21, 2004, 07:48:16 PM
We should all go to the amazon site and vote no that the review was not helpful

Done-I was the 10th person. :)
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Jane on December 21, 2004, 07:52:03 PM
JMK, I'm really sorry and hope you get back what was stolen.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: elmore3003 on December 21, 2004, 08:07:25 PM
Re:  negativity.  I got some disturbing word today that I have evidently been stolen from.  Quite blatantly, by someone I trusted.  I am very sad and am wondering about various recourses.  I suppose it's best to let this kind of thing go.  You know the old adage:  harboring a grudge/wanting revenge is like taking poison and expecting the other person to die.

DRJMK, this is bad news, whether it's financial or a form of plagiarism, and I wish you much luck in dealing with the person you trusted.  No matter what decision you make, I do believe the thief, if you and this person have to continue some sort of social commerce, owes you one huge apology.  My rule has always been that if you kick me once, I'll forgive you.  Do it twice and rot in hell.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Jane on December 21, 2004, 08:12:00 PM
 My rule has always been that if you kick me once, I'll forgive you.  Do it twice and rot in hell.

elmore you are so funny.  
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Michael on December 21, 2004, 08:17:13 PM
Hello

If anyone has time can you go over to

http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/PersonDetail/personid-14058/ (http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/PersonDetail/personid-14058/)

I have been working on updating BK's bio page there. I need a second eye to tell me if I everything is spelled correctly and I haven't made any mistakes.

Thanks
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: DERBRUCER on December 21, 2004, 08:20:48 PM
WARNING TO WEST COAST POSTERS CONTEMPLATING WATCHING THE KENNEDY AWARDS:

When Renee Fleming comes on stage, lock up the animals, hit the mute botton, and take a trip to the john (loo, not Elton)! The most excruciating painful performance of a wretchedly arranged "Over The Rainbow" has never before been heard! (No, my name is not Cora!)

But do come back for Fantasia, who is delightful, and Heather Hedley who does a blow your socks off fantastic rendition of "Your Song" - which has a brilliant arrangement (Larry, were you there?).

der Brucer
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: bk on December 21, 2004, 08:25:21 PM


But, quite frankly, it's no easy thing to prove either libel or slander, I doubt BK could win a case given what is posted there.  I doubt he'd want to wast money trying.
 
If Bruce spoke to someone at Amazon as the author, requesting the review be removed, I don't know whether that would carry any weight or not.  But I think he is responding in exactly the way he should.  If an ant gets in your way, either ignore it or step on it. But don't wring your hands over it.  Besides, he apparently has enough people on this site to seethe with umbrage over this nothing person for him. All you who get outraged play into her hands and give the attention she wants...which is what this is really about.  So why should BK lose sleep over something and someone so utterly inconsequential?  How many people do you think actually visit an individual book page like this?  It's not like it's a review in the New York Times book section.  



It is not of interest or worth my time to do anything about that "review".  It is, as I said, written by a bitter negative person, and it doesn't bother me in the least.  By mentioning the two names she mentioned it narrowed down the number of people it could be to about three, maybe two.  So, maybe she wanted me to know it was her.   It's sad, but there's nothing you can do about such things.  I did enjoy the part about "excoriating" (a nice ten-dollar word) readers of this here site to post rave reviews at amazon.  I defy anyone to search through the archives of these notes and posts and show me one instance of "excoriating" (a nice ten-dollar word) anyone to write a rave review, or even a good review.  I did ask people to review it, sure, just as I ask anyone who reads my books to do, whether here on the site, or at a signing.  I always say, if you read the book, write a review on amazon.  I have no idea what it's going to be, and I'd like to presume that if someone didn't like the book they'd say so, or not write anything.

So, I do appreciate everyone's posts about this "person", but really, there's no need to give this one more thought.  People who do this sort of thing get what they deserve, in the long run.

I must now excoriate (a nice ten-dollar word) some people to do some things.

Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: bk on December 21, 2004, 08:28:13 PM
There are several typos, Michael - can someone proof and give Michael the fixes, please?
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Jane on December 21, 2004, 08:28:28 PM
Michael, what is blogs?
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Jrand74 on December 21, 2004, 08:32:35 PM
DR MS

The middle credit is spelled as "Najed Space"

"Liekly Stories" is spelled that way once.

And under "DIRECTOR" it is listed as Nudie Misical

Pretty good.  Only three things I could find!
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Charles Pogue on December 21, 2004, 08:33:14 PM
JRand54, I do think I said some people do write nice reviews.  But the simple thing is they're still anonymous, they're still amateur, I don't know anything (usually) about their qualifications.  I'm unlikely to judge a book by those reviews.

I wonder does Amazon have a disclaimer somewhere about the opinions expressed on the review sites?  That would protect them from liability, I expect.  
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Jrand74 on December 21, 2004, 08:33:29 PM
oh, and in Doctor's Hospital  Maxium Pressure
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Jrand74 on December 21, 2004, 08:35:40 PM
I think by submitting an opinion there, you release Amazon from any liability.  I haven't read the disclaimer in awhile.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Jane on December 21, 2004, 08:44:33 PM
Charles Pogue I rarely read reviews prior to reading a book.  Often it is the amateur reviews I read later I have found to be the most interesting and insightful.  Many I laugh at but there have been some real gems in there.  True, some of the writing skills are equal or less than mine, however personal experience or knowledge can often offer insight a critic misses.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: bk on December 21, 2004, 08:49:59 PM
The "reviews" that are the real corkers are at the imdb.  Ninety percent of those are written by the stupidest people who ever lived - illiterate in a completely mind-numbing way.  I'll say one thing for Cora, she writes decently, but then, she always did.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: bk on December 21, 2004, 08:51:40 PM
Damn, I can't find anyone to excoriate (a nice ten-dollar word).  I did find someone who said I could exfoliate them.  Perhaps whilst sitting in the Jacuzzi I'll be able to think of someone to excoriate.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Jane on December 21, 2004, 08:53:18 PM
I don't believe I have read the reviews at imdb, or that was the source of the truly stupid reviews I have read. ;D  I tend to google & don't always know the source.

Goodnight.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: JoseSPiano on December 21, 2004, 09:00:37 PM
Good Evening!

What did I miss?  Huh?

;)

As for the "review" - I know, I know, we should stop talking about it, but...

DR Pogue - I just have to ask why your reaction/post seemed so "exuberant" - for lack of a better word right now.  Did some other DR post a very reactionary post about the "review" and then remove it?  As I was reading the posts just now, I didn't really sense any "tone" from anyone's reaction to the "review"... Except yours.

I just checked out the "review", and it gave me a nice laugh.  Nothing more, nothing less.  Whenever I read "customer reviews" on a website - which is rarely - I know that they are just that "customer reviews".  And as other DRs have indicated, when I'm in the mood to buy something, someone else's opinion doesn't ever come into play in my decision.  Heck, even "professional" reviewers can be suspect from time to time - or just have a totally different take on the subject.

Just wondering, that's all.

Curiosity killing the cat.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: DERBRUCER on December 21, 2004, 09:08:48 PM
Hello

If anyone has time can you go over to

http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/PersonDetail/personid-14058/ (http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/PersonDetail/personid-14058/)

I have been working on updating BK's bio page there. I need a second eye to tell me if I everything is spelled correctly and I haven't made any mistakes.

Thanks

YOU ASKED FOR IT:

Biography:
Bruce Kimmel has had a long and varied career. He wrote, directed and starred in the cult movie hit, The First Nudie Musical. He performed those same duties on his second film The Creature Wasn't Nice (a.k.a. Naked Space), with Leslie Nielsen, Cindy Williams and Patrick Macnee. He also co-created the story for the hit film, The Faculty, directed by Robert Rodriguez.

COMMENT: In the second sentence you set off “The First Nudie Musical” with a comma;  in the thirs sentence, you do not set off  “The Creature Wasn’t Nice” with a comma. I would prefer a comma before “the Creature….”.


He has also produced many off-Broadway and Broadway cast albums, including the hit revival of The King and I, starring Lou Diamond Philips and Donna Murphy, The Best Little Whorehouse In Texas starring Ann-Margret and Bells Are Ringing starring Faith Prince.

COMMENT:

Suggest”…King and I, (not .)….in Texas,…Are Ringing,…

NOTES:

•  Bruce has his own website that he blogs every day. www.haineshisway.com Also the Bruce Kimmel tribute site www.brucekimmel.com

COMMENT:
“Blog is not a verb.  After day there should be a comma, not a period. Need a period after .com (end of sentence). Might try: “Bruce has his own website, www.haineshisway.com, on which he keeps a daily blog and maintains a dialog with his cyber friends. There is also a Bruce Kimmel tribute site, www.brucekinnel.com.”  

NEWS
Bruce has just finished his fourth novel Writer's Block. A murder mystery takes place during the new musical Bus and Truck.

COMMENT:

I would prefer: Bruce has just finished his fourth novel, Writer's Block;  a murder mystery whose plot unfolds during the development of a new musical, Bus and Truck.

CREW CREDITS
Penn and Tellers' Bullshit - Associate Producer

COMMENT: s/b Penn and Teller’s

The First Nudie Misical – Writer

COMMENT: Musical, not Misical

“More Info” is a rehash of data already presented.

Acting Appearances:

M*A*S*H - Pt. Gilbert - Cease-Fire (1973)

COMMENT: Private is abbreviated PVT, or Pvt.

Penn and Tellers' Bullshit – Doctor

COMMENT: Again, Teller’s

Co Starring Roles
Tabitha - Adam - Tabitha (1976)
Never Say Never - Paul Walter - Pilot
Tabitha - Adam
COMMENT:
Tabitha listed twice.

der "no, I am NOT Cora" Brucer

NOTE:  If I were like "some people", I would correct my idiosyncratic spelling of "third" and publicly protest my innocence - but I'm a slow learner.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: JoseSPiano on December 21, 2004, 09:10:29 PM
DR Jrand - I will be there for MAMMA MIA!  -If it works out.  I was just e-mailed today to check if I would possibly be available.  The tour is in going into it's fourth(!) year, and some people are looking for some vacation time, so...  We'll see.  The cool thing is that a month after that the show comes back to Richmond, then right up the road to DC for another extended stay, and it looks like I'll be playing those couple of weeks too.  -And the Indianapolis stint evens works out with JEWISH THIGHS' scheduled run, and my pending move to NYC.  It would be a true "road week" for me - salary plus per diem!

I'm hoping it does work out, but I know there are tons of variables involved.  And by mentioning the possibility on this site, I don't think I'm breaking my usual "jinxing it" rule.  It just one of those things that could work out, or could not work out.  In any case...  It was nice to get the call - or e-mail as it were.

I would love to check out Indianapolis finally!  I've spent time in Northern Indiana and in Southern Indiana, but I've never been in the middle of the state!  And I would also be able to investigate some culinary delicacies - mainly greasy spoons - that I've been hearing and reading about.  -It's always about the food!

;)
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: DERBRUCER on December 21, 2004, 09:13:42 PM
DR MS

The middle credit is spelled as "Najed Space"

"Liekly Stories" is spelled that way once.

And under "DIRECTOR" it is listed as Nudie Misical

Pretty good.  Only three things I could find!

Well, you missed a few, but caught two I didn't - BITCH!!!
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: George on December 21, 2004, 09:18:09 PM
First of all, THE "WHAT IF?" DVD ARRIVED!!  My housemate is watching "Father of the Pride" so I have to wait until then to watch it, but I will!  I'm also taping "The Kennedy Center Honors."
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: MBarnum on December 21, 2004, 09:18:19 PM
And to add my coins worth, I do read the reviews at Amazon, and Epinions, and other places...quite frequently...when I need help in deciding whether to purchase a particular CD or DVD or car or camera or such.

I value other opinions, even if they are from "amateurs," and often times find them quite helpful to me.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: JoseSPiano on December 21, 2004, 09:18:33 PM
WARNING TO WEST COAST POSTERS CONTEMPLATING WATCHING THE KENNEDY AWARDS:

When Renee Fleming comes on stage, lock up the animals, hit the mute botton, and take a trip to the john (loo, not Elton)! The most excruciating painful performance of a wretchedly arranged "Over The Rainbow" has never before been heard! (No, my name is not Cora!)

But do come back for Fantasia, who is delightful, and Heather Hedley who does a blow your socks off fantastic rendition of "Your Song" - which has a brilliant arrangement (Larry, were you there?).

der Brucer

I've always wished the Kennedy Center would make the tapes of the full evening of The Kennedy Center Honors available for public viewing somewhere.  It's amazing what gets edited out for the TV broadcast - both good and bad.  There have been years where the order of the presentations was changed for TV.  And there have also been times when they've had to re-record a segment after the ceremony proper due to some technical glitch - and I have to say the CBS engineers and editors do a pretty damn good job of making it look seamless.  At least the Washington Post still does a nice play-by-play of the ceremony and the dinner beforehand the day after the event.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: bk on December 21, 2004, 09:31:57 PM
YOU ASKED FOR IT:

Biography:
Bruce Kimmel has had a long and varied career. He wrote, directed and starred in the cult movie hit, The First Nudie Musical. He performed those same duties on his second film The Creature Wasn't Nice (a.k.a. Naked Space), with Leslie Nielsen, Cindy Williams and Patrick Macnee. He also co-created the story for the hit film, The Faculty, directed by Robert Rodriguez.

COMMENT: In the second sentence you set off “The First Nudie Musical” with a comma;  in the thirs sentence, you do not set off  “The Creature Wasn’t Nice” with a comma. I would prefer a comma before “the Creature….”.


In the second sentence, I would prefer the alternate spelling of the word "thirs" - "third".   :o ;D :P
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: bk on December 21, 2004, 09:34:09 PM
I excoriate and exfoliate all of those who've read Writer's Block to post a RAVE review at amazon if you haven't.  And if you don't heed my excoriation and exfoliation I shall turn you over to Cora, who will excommunicate you.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: George on December 21, 2004, 09:34:35 PM
We should all go to the amazon site and vote no that the review was not helpful
Done-I was the 10th person. :)

I went to amazon.com to vote that I didn't find that particular review helpful, but I noticed that ALL of them had some no votes.  WFO's, Michael Shayne's and JRand's reviews say "3 of 8 people found the following review helpful."  That means 5 people didn't.  Only "4 of 9 people" found Larry Moore's review helpful.  I voted "yes" on the ones that I agreed with. ;)
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: DERBRUCER on December 21, 2004, 09:41:17 PM
I've never seen any roses having male name. It's interesting.

Our rose catalogues are filled with gentleman roses:

John F. Kennedy
(http://www.jacksonandperkins.com/images/item/131f.jpg)

Ronald Reagan
(http://www.jacksonandperkins.com/images/item/30753f.jpg)

to name but a few.

der Brucer (who does not have a rose named for him, YET)
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: DERBRUCER on December 21, 2004, 09:44:16 PM
In the second sentence, I would prefer the alternate spelling of the word "thirs" - "third".   :o ;D :P

Just you wait, Brucie Kimmel, just you wait! >:(
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Dan (the Man) on December 21, 2004, 09:50:01 PM
I've always wished the Kennedy Center would make the tapes of the full evening of The Kennedy Center Honors available for public viewing somewhere.  

Maybe they'll release Kennedy Center's Lost Treasures.

I know what you mean, though.  Many of these programs contained musical tributes that were quite stirring.  I enjoyed tonight's program very much (even Renee Fleming's off-kilter "Somewhere Over the Rainbow"--sorry, DR Derbrucer.)

It was strange watching the Kennedy Center Honors before Christmas.  They're usually broadcast between Chrismas Day and New Year's Eve.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Dan (the Man) on December 21, 2004, 09:51:42 PM
The name Cora immediately makes me think of Margaret Hamilton.  I'ld like to keep it that way.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: George on December 21, 2004, 09:59:33 PM
My housemate has gone to bed!  I'm going to watch "What If?" now!!
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: George on December 21, 2004, 09:59:52 PM
Good night all!
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: JoseSPiano on December 21, 2004, 10:08:57 PM
DRJOSE that would be wonderful.  Would love to meet you in person and do a dinner or two.   Hmmmmmmmmm.....what show?  Hmm....MILLIE?

Surprisingly enough- Clowes Hall - it is announced Clews.....as in the game!  Family name.  

Hmmm...  I was about to "guess" that it was pronounced that way.  There is a long line of "Chowning's" in Virginia - and the name is pronounced "chew-ning"  When I worked in the music store, one of my regular customers was a Chowning, and it was always sort of fun to hear one of the other clerks call her at home when an order came in...

"Hello, is Ms. Chow-ning there?... No?... Well, is this ###-####... Oh, OK.  Well, the number must have been written down wrong...  Oh, you pronounce it how?"

Apparently, it's a declination of "Chouning" pronounced a la francaise.  And there are still some Chounings too.

;)

Did that make sense?
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Dan (the Man) on December 21, 2004, 10:12:48 PM
I've been very good this year while Christmas shopping with not buying things for myself, but today in Tower Records, I picked up The Snowman on DVD.  This is another animated holiday film that I love.  If it weren't so late here right now, I'ld put it on and watch it.

Oh, what the heck--it's Christmas and I don't have to go to work tomorrow!  I'm going to watch it now!

'night!
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Jrand74 on December 21, 2004, 10:16:14 PM
LOL derBrucer.  A laugh I needed at this moment.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Jrand74 on December 21, 2004, 10:17:11 PM
DRJOSE not much in the way of fine dining in Indy....and Clowes is on the Butler Campus with not much within walking distance.  Usually I see a bus transporting the cast from the venue to the hotel downtown.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Jrand74 on December 21, 2004, 10:24:56 PM
LOL seems like a total 5 people found all of our reviews unhelpful.  Wonder if it's the same five?
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: JoseSPiano on December 21, 2004, 10:25:03 PM
DRJOSE not much in the way of fine dining in Indy....and Clowes is on the Butler Campus with not much within walking distance.  Usually I see a bus transporting the cast from the venue to the hotel downtown.

There are couple of places outside of Indianapolis I've heard about - true hole in the wall type places.  We shall see...
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Ann on December 21, 2004, 10:27:10 PM
I've been very good this year while Christmas shopping with not buying things for myself, but today in Tower Records, I picked up The Snowman on DVD.  This is another animated holiday film that I love.  If it weren't so late here right now, I'ld put it on and watch it.

Oh, what the heck--it's Christmas and I don't have to go to work tomorrow!  I'm going to watch it now!

'night!

Ohhhh...one of my favorite holiday movies!  The animation is superb, as is the score.  And the song...my father did an arrangement of it that I sang at a holiday concert in high school...piano, violin, and flute, as I recall...just beautiful.  
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: JoseSPiano on December 21, 2004, 10:28:59 PM
Well, I take over for the "night nurse" - a.k.a. my Mom - when she leaves for work in the morning, so...

*Although, I can hear my Dad walking around downstairs.. and humming and singing...  Oh, please don't let it be the karaoke again!?!?!?!

Well... Goodnight.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: JoseSPiano on December 21, 2004, 10:33:36 PM
...Ah, well... It's the karaoke machine...  And with the way this house is laid out, the "echo" sounds kind of spooky - just "blended out" enough to be on the verge of being unintelligible...

:-/
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: bk on December 21, 2004, 10:36:28 PM
Jrand, it's probably the same people who found Cora's "review" helpful.  I think you can see the game that's being played.  This too shall pass and hopefully we can all have a perfectly pleasant Christmas season.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: Jrand74 on December 21, 2004, 10:39:54 PM
Maybe. We. Will.
Title: Re:THE DENSE NOTES
Post by: George on December 21, 2004, 11:58:48 PM
I LOVED "WHAT IF?" THE REVUE!!  I just watched it all the way through (with only one break to go to the bathroom...sorry, I didn't prepare).  Anyway, I loved the quiter, more serious songs in amongst all the hilarity, which was quite hilarious.  And as for the mugging in the one particular song...never having seen it performed before, I didn't think it was excessive, except for the last beat and the vocalization on it.  I thought that that did not fit at all.  But the rest of that song was not bad.  And the whole show was quite delightful.  So, BK, when's the CD coming out?? ;D