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Title: YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: bk on February 06, 2005, 11:59:17 PM
Well, you've read the notes, the notes were a ripping adventure yarn, and now it is time for you to post until the cows come home, which is a ripping adventure yarn in itself.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 12:08:07 AM
The word of the day is: OOZE!
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 12:09:23 AM
Let me get this straight or, for that matter, let me get this crooked:  Ann finally catches up and then DOESN'T POST?  She just tunes in, turns on, and drops out?  No, no, this will NOT do.

OOZE!
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 12:10:48 AM
Welcome six GUESTS.  We're talkin' about a pricey collectible you'd treat yourself to if you had wealth beyond your wildest imagings, and we're talkin' about OOZE.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: George on February 07, 2005, 12:10:56 AM
Well, the Topic of the Day is certainly an interesting one (not as interesting as the word of the day ;))...but one which requires sleep to thoroughly contemplate the question.  So, to sleep I must go.  But I wanted to post this so that I can say that I posted before Wussburgering out. ::)
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 12:11:35 AM
I feel we should all say the word OOZE in unison.  On the count of three or the Duke of four: One, two, three - OOZE.  

Love that.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 12:11:55 AM
What am I, doing a monologue all of a sudden?
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: George on February 07, 2005, 12:12:46 AM
OOZE!!  Okay, I'm a bit late, but still I Oozed.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 12:12:56 AM
A mere forty more posts to my new LARGE plateau.  And after I attain my LARGE plateau I shall attain a LARGE chateau.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 12:13:18 AM
One simply must OOZE.  
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Ann on February 07, 2005, 12:13:51 AM
Ooze...interesting word.  

I want something sweet to eat...but what?
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: George on February 07, 2005, 12:14:27 AM
A mere forty more posts to my new LARGE plateau.  And after I attain my LARGE plateau I shall attain a LARGE chateau.

It is quite possible, BK, that you could attain the 5-digit plateau today!  Good luck!
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: George on February 07, 2005, 12:15:00 AM
Ooze...interesting word.  

I want something sweet to eat...but what?

Pie!  What else??
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: George on February 07, 2005, 12:15:38 AM
Good night, BK and Ann!
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 12:19:58 AM
Oh, I see Ann has tuned in, turned on, dropped out, and tuned in again.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 12:22:59 AM
Welcome seven GUESTS.  OOZE.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Charles Pogue on February 07, 2005, 12:23:55 AM
I fairly OOZE with unbelieveability that you have not watched GUNGA DIN in over thirty years.  I must watch this film three or four times a year.  If I'm flipping channels and I catch part of it, I will watch it to the end.  And I never tire of it.  I always say that ADVENTURES OF ROBIN HOOD is my favourite film, but GUNGA DIN is so close, it is virtually a toss-up.

If you have not watched it in over thirty years than you have never seen it in its restored pristine condition which Rudy Behlmer I believe had a hand in about fifteen years or so ago.  Rudyard Kipling, long gone shortly after its initial release, is back in.  The extended punch bowl scene is restored and other little bits and pieces here and there.

Every actor in it is at the top of his form.  And George Stevens directs with his usual meticulousness.  It is full of nuance, detail, and delicious bits.  The battle in Tantrapor (sp?) is one of the best action scenes ever filmed.  I could teach a course in film studies with this one film.  It has everything you need to know in it how to make a great film.  As you suggest, as near perfect as anything gets.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Ann on February 07, 2005, 12:26:35 AM
I haven't dropped anywhere, dear bk, I am still here.

I don't have much to say, though.  Oh, I go to the doctors for my two week post-op appointment tomorrow.  Hopefully they'll give me the goahead to work a few days this week.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Charles Pogue on February 07, 2005, 12:30:24 AM
What collectible would I buy if I had a fortune?  Well, a first folio Shakespeare might be fun.  

Or an original Frazetta.  

I might go to that dealer in foreign movie posters we always see at the Courts show and get some of the ones with the particularly beautiful artwork I've had my eye on for years...The Mask Of Fu Manchu, The Mark of Zorro, The Thief of Baghdad, The Adventures of Robin Hood, and the 1935 SHE poster.  

Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 12:44:23 AM
Pogue, don't you agree that if the Gunga Din script were taken to a studio exec today that they would laugh at it.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 12:44:57 AM
Oh, and Adelphia struck again - totally down for the last ten minutes.  I've been on hold with them for ten minutes as well.  
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 12:47:01 AM
Well, I suppose I'll OOZE off to the bedroom environment.  I'll wait another five minutes or so to see if these disgusting Adelphia people answer the call.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 12:53:10 AM
All right, I shall now toddle off to the bedroom environment.  Adelphia has not picked up.  So, may I just say to them: OOZE.  And they shall be hearing from me first thing in the morning.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Charles Pogue on February 07, 2005, 01:00:24 AM
I don't know that they'd necessarily laugh at it...but I suspect that  they gut it of everything that makes it great, simply because they'd try to make it politically correct.  Oh, you can't have these colonials brutes treating indigenious people that way.  We have to balance everything.  Make it all even-handed.  Everything would lose it's edge and it would all be processed...like processed...bland and tasteless.

But actually one of the great things about this movie is that the racism of colonialism is addressed without hitting you over the head with it.  You see in the reflective, contemplative glances at the end while the poem is being read...their questions, their shame, their pride in the efforts of their companion.  You also get an eloquent defense and viewpoint  from the other side in Edouardo Cianelli's speeches.

Have you seen any of the new FOUR FEATHERS?  I caught some on cable and what little I saw was disappointing.  Instead of keeping it about the story of one man trying to prove to his friends he is not a coward by performing unusual acts of heroism and giving them their white feather back, they tried to tackle the bigger issues of colonial conquest and,while what I saw was not terrible, I felt it was off-point and paled from the '39 film.  

They even gave the hero a sort of native mentor/deus ex machina who often bails his ass out of trouble...which, of course, dilutes the whole crux of the matter.  He has gone off alone to fight his own battles in his own way and prove, not just to his friends, but also to himself he is not a coward...not question the motives and value  (or not) of Imperilism.  

We always have to throw in shallow, simplistic, politically correct lessons instead of just accepting this historical perspective of the day and understanding those were the values and times we live in.

I remember one guy who had trouble with Russell Crowe as a hero in GLADIATOR because the film started out with him making war against the Germans.

It was the time and the name of the game was conquest, people!  Get over it!
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Charles Pogue on February 07, 2005, 01:09:51 AM
While I'm on my rant of political correctness and historical perspective.  I hate the revisionist historical rap Columbus gets.  Oh, that beastly man came over here and slaughtered those poor Indians...oops...Native Americans.  They neglect to mention that long before Columbus came, the Native Americans were warring on each other, torturing, enslaving, slaughtering each other...carrying off and raping each other's women.  

And I'm a Native American too...and it's not because I've got one sixteenth Cherokee blood in me (or some fraction like that).  It's because...duhhh...I was born in American.  That makes me a Native American.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Jrand73 on February 07, 2005, 02:53:47 AM
OMG DRCP - I am also 1/16th Cherokee Indian.  Can you imagine our ancestors bitching around the fire?  "I hate the way those young braves dress....and that makeup!"

GUNGA DIN - well I can only concur with its wonderful-ness.  Back in the day, our local non-network affiliated Channel 4 would, in the summertime, show a movie - the SAME movie - at 10 am and 10 pm five days in a row.  This is the way I first saw KING KONG and all the Astaire-Rogers films.  I would make sure I saw the movie at 10 am on Monday morning, and if it was a keeper - I saw it 10 times in five days.  GUNGA DIN was one of them as well.  By the time of the battle I was watching standing up, couldn't sit down because of the excitement....  Never liked Fairbanks, Jr. in much of anything else - but Cary Grant as an action hero was perfect - and Victor was the perfect big brother figure....and it was so scary.   How do you fight against a group of people who hate you because of your race and/or politics?  GUNGA DIN.....and Sam Jaffe, who at the time was on BEN CASEY was a revelation as well.  I kept thinking he must be a hundred years old!
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Jrand73 on February 07, 2005, 02:56:51 AM
MR BK you are leaving me in the dust post-wise.  Congratulations on what will happen later this day.

Rainy day today - but that's okay.

Collectible with cost no object.  Hmmmmmmm.....if it could be found, the scrapbook that Frances Farmer's mother Lillian kept of Frances' career, and the audio tapes that Frances made for her biography.

Otherwise - a Monet and a signed first edition of ATLAS SHRUGGED.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Jrand73 on February 07, 2005, 03:14:52 AM
DRGEORGE - I like the music to XANADU as well.  I play the CD rather than watch the movie....although what's nice is to see actual dancing in some of the sequences as opposed to the JiveAss Street crap that passes for dancing now.  Those girls who play the other muses are obviously trained dancers - not strippers.  Sandahl Bergman is stunning with her terrific body and perfect moves.  Olivia doesn't stand a chance dancing with them....but her solo work in "Suspended In Time" which is just one shot that begins far away and moves in and in and in to end on a closeup of her face is probably my favorite ONJ moment on film!
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Charles Pogue on February 07, 2005, 03:21:51 AM
We Din-o-philes are in good company. It's William Goldman's favourite movie too.  His first novel was entitled TEMPLE OF GOLD, after the movie, which features prominently in the book.

Yep, I got my Cherokee blood and am proud of it.  And, yes, I can see our ancestors round the campfire, bitching about those thong-like loincloths the young squaws are wearing instead of the nice doeskin tunic that has some discretion to it.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Ben on February 07, 2005, 05:37:07 AM
Hi, Ginny, Joey, Jennifer, Hisaka, and Larry.

I need to think about the TOD before I answer.

I do love caramel that OOZES all over a scoop of ice cream.

Tonight begins my theatre marathon with a performance of Dirty Rotten Scoundrels with Mr. John Lithgow and Mr. Norbert Leo Butz. I shall report tomorrow morning.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: td on February 07, 2005, 05:52:17 AM
DR Joey inquired:
Quote
I also need to ask a favor. A friend has asked me to get a small group together (4 to 8 people) to sing an satb choral piece in memory of the victims of cancer at the local Relay for Life in April. I am having a difficult time thinking of a piece that would be appropriate. Would any of you have any ideas or be able to point me in the right direction? Many thanks for any help!

I would suggest looking into the songs of David Friedman, especially "Help Is On the Way" and "Your Love."

as for the TOD:
Wishful thinking-wise, I'd go for God's original blueprints for this world. (or were we merely a brain f**t)?

Mary Shelley's manuscript of FRANKENSTEIN.
Bram Stoker's notes for DRACULA.

Something of Botticelli's, I suppose for beauty.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Jennifer on February 07, 2005, 05:55:30 AM
Okay so maybe I'm the only one here who wanted to watch the Superbowl.  Went to my sister's SuperBowl party and actually won the First Quarter Football Pool (i had 0-0 & that was the score after the 1st Quarter).

It was fun, although the game was fairly boring.  The commercials with just okay.  Most of the guys were laughing at the monkeys.  But other than that not too exciting!
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: MBarnum on February 07, 2005, 07:08:04 AM
JRand54, you crack me up!

Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: MBarnum on February 07, 2005, 07:11:08 AM
You know what, I have never seen GUNGA DIN...and now I am rather ashamed of that. Having spent my 41 years watching old B-movies, I have passed by a lot of "A" films...but little by little I will catch up!
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Hisaka on February 07, 2005, 07:17:22 AM
Unfortunately, Japan is a nation poor in musicals, DR MBarnum. There are some musical actors and actresses for theater but… I don’t say that they have a great talent for it. Sad to say.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Hisaka on February 07, 2005, 07:19:46 AM

Today’s topic of discussion: “La Primavera” by Botticelli from the Museum of Uffizi in Florence. I all the time worship the unbelievable painting since I first saw it itself.

Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: vixmom on February 07, 2005, 07:28:49 AM
Hello all!! I did not sign on at all yesterday because Ispent every minute I wasn't doing chores or errands or teaching Sunday School, reading "Kritzer Time" which I finished at 1:06 AM EST this morning.  


I caught up on Saturday's posts, but haven't touched Sunday's yet.  

Jane, I was wondering if you were Jeanne!! I am now very interested in your "deleted post", but since Rodninski is planning to read them soon, maybe you can sent it to me in a private message!!

TOD:

OOOH, this is a hard one There's so many things I can think of: original manuscripts from Shakespear, Dickens, Alcott, Austen..., the dress from the "Shall We Dance?" number in the King and I , Scarlett's  "curtain dress"  from GWTW (or maybe that sexy red one from the end of the movie)....

Dear bk... A few days ago someone asked if you could have been born at any time in any place where & when would it be,  I now can say, I wish I had been born ten years earlier and in your neighborhood!!






Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Matt H. on February 07, 2005, 07:41:57 AM
Well, I'd have to use my fortune to buy one of the pairs of ruby slippers from THE WIZARD OF OZ. I'd want one of the pairs that's in pristine condition, but I think that's one movie prop I would like to own.

If not that, then James Bond's Aston Martin from GOLDFINGER (and I'm not even a car person, but that has to be the coolest car EVER!)
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Hisaka on February 07, 2005, 07:42:51 AM
Thank you DR MATTH and DR JR for the comments for Broadway Melody of 1940.  Now I could make it clear, which is which, thank you. I know “Begin the Beguine”!

And here’s another question:
A Star Is Born with Janet Gaynor, I found its DVD on a site by some chance, is the original version of the Judy Garland’s?  Does anyone recommend it?
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Matt H. on February 07, 2005, 07:43:00 AM
Yes, DR MBarnum, you OWE it to yourself to catch up with GUNGA DIN. I am anxious to get my hands on the DVD myself.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Matt H. on February 07, 2005, 07:48:02 AM

And here’s another question:
A Star Is Born with Janet Gaynor, I found its DVD on a site by some chance, is the original version of the Judy Garland’s?  Does anyone recommend it?


Actually, the story was based on an earlier Hollywood film WHAT PRICE HOLLYWOOD which was directed by George Cukor who also directed the Garland version of A STAR IS BORN.

The Gaynor/March film is not a musical, but it's a very fine (and much shorter) telling of the story. I think March is the equal of James Mason in the Garland version, but Garland far, far outstrips Gaynor as Esther Blodgett/Vicki Lester. I also prefer all of the supporting actors in the Garland version.

The 1937 Gaynor version was one of the early Technicolor films, but it's been in the public domain for a long time, and there are numerous DVDs of it of dubious quality. Be careful if you buy it to get it from a reputable DVD producer. Otherwise, wha you get might be unwatchable.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Ben on February 07, 2005, 07:48:31 AM
Hisaka, in reference to your question

"A Star Is Born with Janet Gaynor, I found its DVD on a site by some chance, is the original version of the Judy Garland’s?  Does anyone recommend it?"

In my humble opinion, yes, I highly recommend it. It's different from the Garland version, but just as wonderful.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: MBarnum on February 07, 2005, 07:48:45 AM
And here’s another question:
A Star Is Born with Janet Gaynor, I found its DVD on a site by some chance, is the original version of the Judy Garland’s?  Does anyone recommend it?


DR Hisaka, both the Janet Gaynor version and the Judy Garland version are quite good. The Judy Garland version is more of a musical, however. I cannot recall if there is any singing in the Janet Gaynor version. But I like both.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Hisaka on February 07, 2005, 07:49:54 AM
I watched On The Town and enjoyed it.
I didn't know Frank Sinatra could dance! :o
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: MBarnum on February 07, 2005, 07:52:51 AM
I watched On The Town and enjoyed it.
I didn't know Frank Sinatra could dance! :o


A very fun film! And a great example of an American musical film!
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Matt H. on February 07, 2005, 07:57:00 AM
If you enjoyed seeing Frank Sinatra dance, then catch his two other big dance musicals with Gene Kelly: ANCHORS AWEIGH and TAKE ME OUT TO THE BALLGAME.

ON THE TOWN is definitely the best of the three, however, so you started at the top.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Hisaka on February 07, 2005, 07:59:03 AM
DR MATTH, DR BEN and DR MBarnum: OK, I'll get both but I'll be careful when I buy the Janet Gaynor version, as DR MATTH said.
Thank you all!
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Matt H. on February 07, 2005, 07:59:05 AM
Another glorious day of sunshine and (relatively) warm temperatures. When you have 60+ degree weather in February, then you're definitely getting ready for spring.

My daffodills are starting to peek out of the ground.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Hisaka on February 07, 2005, 08:03:14 AM
Oh, yes, I'm interested in these two films, DR MATTH.
There are soooooo many musical films I should watch!
Busy!!!
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Hisaka on February 07, 2005, 08:08:24 AM

HAVE A NICE DAY ALL!!!!!
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 07, 2005, 08:19:50 AM
Good Morning!

Ah, sleep!  I would have actually liked to get up a little earlier, but since there's nothing really I have to do today... :)

However, I think I shall head out the "fashionable" West End and head over the Sprint Store to have them check out something on my cell phone.  Then most likely over to the Apple Store to attend another workshop this afternoon.  Then... ??

But that's really all I sort of have to do today.  Oh, I may go looking and shopping for some more software.  We shall see.

Like DR MattH's locale, we are supposed to have a very nice day weather wise up here too.  Not 60+, but at least 60.  And sunny!  I'm gonna head out for a walk in a little bit to help truly get my day started.

Monday is also normally my baking day, but I don't think I'm going to bake today - unless the mood hits me tonight while I'm flipping channels and finding nothing to watch.  I just want to have a nice day off for myself.  Sort of a selfish day, but we all need those kinds of days every now and then.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 07, 2005, 08:22:20 AM
DR Hisaka - I'm also a big fan of ON THE TOWN.  I know there are some "purists" that dislike the movie since a lot of it was changed and/or discarded from the original stage version, but it's apples and oranges to me.  Two different things - one stage musical, one movie musical.  I like them both very much.

-And where else can you get Ann Miller tap dancing in the Museum of Natural History!?!?!?!
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 07, 2005, 08:23:59 AM
DR Joey - I'll check the listings on some of my choral CDs to see if I can come up with a few suggestions for you.  Unfortunately, nothing that I know that is arranged SATB comes to mind.  Or were you going to arrange it yourself?
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 07, 2005, 08:25:11 AM
OOZE

Hmm... Yesterday is was PHLEGM... Today it is OOZE...

What shall tomorrow bring?

:-\
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 07, 2005, 08:30:20 AM
As for the TOD:

The manuscript for George Gershwin's "Rhapsody in Blue".
The manuscript for Liszt's Piano Sonata in B-minor.  *Henle publishes a facsimile of this which is quite fascinating to examine.  It even duplicates the colored pencil markings that Liszt used in his editing.
The manuscript for Debussy's "La plus que lente" - my favorite "small" Debussy  piano piece.

One of the cigar box cover studies for Seurat's "La Grande Jatte".
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 07, 2005, 08:31:21 AM
OK.. I'm outta here... Time to take advantage of my day off...  Be back...

(all together now)

Laters...
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Ben on February 07, 2005, 08:37:32 AM
Just finished listening to Donald's new show and it's two, two, two shows in one!

We get a great tribute to Jerry Orbach and also a nice look at the cast recordings nominated for a Grammy! Hie thee over and give it a listen.

Thanks, Donald. And welcome back.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Jennifer on February 07, 2005, 08:45:38 AM
Here's a link for the Superbowl ads:

http://dyn.ifilm.com/superbowlads/

Just going from memory, looking at the titles, my favorites were:

1. bud light parachuting.  

2. budweiser designated driver dance

3.ameriquest cat

4. fedex dancing burt

5.go daddy.com

6.tobasco tanlines

7.careerbuilders.com monkeys

8.all the budweiser anheiser busch ones were good (i think a lot of people would like thanking the troops and clydesdale zoo

9.NFL showtunes

10. diet pepsi p diddy

11.diet pepsi ladies man (i loved this one).

12. ford mustang frozen in fargo

Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 07, 2005, 09:06:05 AM
OOZE

Hmm... Yesterday is was PHLEGM... Today it is OOZE...

What shall tomorrow bring?

:-\

Pus

Bile

Gangrene

OR something much, much worse!!!
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Jane on February 07, 2005, 09:10:57 AM
Pogue thanks for the link.  I couldn’t open it and Keith is playing his computer game.  I will try again later, after I return from Bogie’s vet appointment.

Sandra you were eating Carvel’s-lucky you.

Joey your post about your trip was very nice and I’m sorry the second paragraph was full of family health issues.  It is hard to be so far away during times like this.  

Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: George on February 07, 2005, 09:11:04 AM
OOZE

Hmm... Yesterday is was PHLEGM... Today it is OOZE...

What shall tomorrow bring?

:-\

Pus

Bile

Gangrene

OR something much, much worse!!!

All this sort of talk makes me want to vomit on the ground! (http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/wuerg/vomit-smiley-007.gif)
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: George on February 07, 2005, 09:11:52 AM
;)
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Stuart on February 07, 2005, 09:13:24 AM
I have never seen GUNGA DIN, or the Janet Gaynor ASIB.

Regards from my brother, DR Jay, who has been quite busy as of late, and will return to these here parts when he is able.

Collectibles?  Theatres, of course.  (If it's good enough for Cameron and Lord Lloyd Webber to do, why, it's good enough for me.)  If not theatres, then Hirschfelds.  After that, cufflinks.  An odd choice, since I only have one or two French cuff shirts (beside my tux shirt), but I have always liked cufflinks.  And boat races.  I like boat races.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 07, 2005, 09:13:44 AM
I spent my weekend watching the fourth season of "Oz"...and WOW!  What an extraordinary season THAT was!

Additionally, I watched "Bunny Lake is Missing" with a misfire performance by Keir Dullea in the last half hour and some trademark Preminger thuddingly dull patches, but hugely atmospheric production design/cinematography, a lovely performance by Carol Lynley, and a glorious score by Paul Glass.  I  was terribly irritated by the "tearing sounds" over the wonderful main titles which were wholly unnecessary.

Then, I watched "The Bourne Supremacy" which I mostly enjoyed.  Matt Damon is THE actor of his generation and Joan Allen can simply do nothing that isn't surprising, amazing and wonderful.  The film was nearly perfect until the most unbelievable chase in Berlin in which one police officer spotted Bourne as fitting a description of a man with a black coat (and everyone on the streets of Berlin were men in black coats), and suddenly, the chase was on and 15 police cars were hot on his tail and never less than a dozen officers just yards away from grabbing him....and it simply COULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED LIKE THAT.  It would have required a MAJOR leap of disbelief for me to give it any credence and I couldn't do it.  Berlin is far too congested with traffic and people for the police to have stayed with him in such numbers and for so long based on a "black coat" description.

Sigh.  Oh, well.

The chase later in the film in Moscow was equally unbelievable...especially given that Moscow police were on his tail until the wreck...and suddenly, there was no one else around...no one got out of their cars...and Bourne was long gone before police arrived!!!  How the hell was that possible given the preceding two minutes of chase????

Double sigh.

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Post by: Matt H. on February 07, 2005, 09:25:36 AM
Although many critics thought THE BOURNE SUPREMACY was superior to the first film, I didn't. Like DR Ron, I liked it, but I thought the first was a genuinely engrossing thriller that I loved from first frame to last.
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Post by: Matt H. on February 07, 2005, 09:28:23 AM
I had fonder memories of BUNNY LAKE that were kind of dashed when I watched the movie again a few months ago on TCM. Though the mystery is quite gripping and Carol Lynley very good, the ending is way too protracted and ultimately anti-climactic.
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Post by: Matt H. on February 07, 2005, 09:31:20 AM
How about this for an announcement I got from USATODAY's website this morning:

"On May 10, Warner Home Video releases its Controversial Classics Collection with seven movies — I Am a Fugitive From a Chain Gang (1932), Fury (1936), Bad Day at Black Rock (1955), Blackboard Jungle (1955), A Face in the Crowd (1957), Advise and Consent (1962) and The Americanization of Emily (1964) — that tackle touchy subjects, such as race, homosexuality, violence and corruption. Each DVD (separately $20 or $80 for a gift set) contains a commentary or feature about the film's impact and legacy. Andy Griffith, who made his film debut in Crowd, took part in a documentary, as did co-star Patricia Neal and screenwriter Budd Schulberg."

I can't wait to get my hands on BAD DAY AT BLACK ROCK, ADVISE AND CONSENT, EMILY, and A FACE IN THE CROWD.
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Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 09:57:38 AM
I'm getting a little bored of the names of these box sets - The Controversial Classics Collection.  Just put out the damn movies.

The day hasn't made up its mind yet, but I believe the day will decide to be sunny in about two hours.
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Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 09:58:05 AM
OOZE!
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Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 09:58:40 AM
Do you know what you can do with OOZE?  You can SHMOOZE with OOZE.  
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Post by: Kerry on February 07, 2005, 10:03:18 AM
A Face In the Crowd is so terrifyingly good, and it still rings true.
Same with "Advise and Consent.  Both movies are still applicable; the characters are still in our own headlines.  Funny how that works.

I was going to listen to the soundtrack to "Valley of the Dolls," (on LP yet), but I came across the origianl cast album of "Flower Drum Song," so I'm listening to that.  It's raining today. (The flowers and the trees get wet. Very wet)  I will not complain since we have had droughts for so long, but still....

I think I'd buy an Original J.C. Leyendecker and an original Paul Cadmus.  OR a real Bob's Big Boy statue!

In honor of Jose, I'm now listening to "I Enjoy Being A Girl."  (You go, girl!)

I think I will watch the perfectly dreadful and dreadfully perfect "Valley of the Dolls" tonight.  Everyone needs a fix like that occasionally.  
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Post by: Kerry on February 07, 2005, 10:04:18 AM
WFO,

How's  Joe doing?
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Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 10:09:24 AM
Happily, I owned a J.C. Leyendecker Post cover original painting.  Unhappily, I had to sell it when the bad business was going on.
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Post by: Kerry on February 07, 2005, 10:11:35 AM
BK-- You will get another JCL in the future, I'm sure.  Speaking of which-- any recent acquisitions?
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Post by: Kerry on February 07, 2005, 10:13:56 AM
If we can have things from museums, I can think of a few Sargents, a Pisarro, an early Monet, a Scott Prior, A Wes Hempel and Henri Manet's "At the Bar at the Moulin Rouge" for a start.
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Post by: Kerry on February 07, 2005, 10:14:41 AM
I'll go with Ben and the caramel if we must OOZE today.
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Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 10:15:19 AM
No recent art purchases.  I'm trying not to make any big purchases for a while.  I made several towards the end of last year and that will be it for a while.
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Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 10:26:21 AM
Is this a slow news day here at haineshisway.com?
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Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 10:27:02 AM
Twenty-six more posts and I'll be OOZING my way to a new plateau.
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Post by: Ben on February 07, 2005, 10:34:42 AM
And Kerry has just 60 posts until his ascent to the heavens
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 07, 2005, 10:37:04 AM
Twenty-six more posts and I'll be OOZING my way to a new plateau.

Yes, you'll be nearly 3,500 posts ahead of the second highest poster!
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Post by: George on February 07, 2005, 10:40:34 AM
For some reason, I'd like the very first mechanical clock ever made.  That would be very interesting.  And the very first pocket watch (I've always loved pocket watches).  I'll think of more stuff later in the day.
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 07, 2005, 10:41:23 AM
Cheaper by the Oozen.

Ooze Sorry Now.

An ooze of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 07, 2005, 10:42:18 AM
All of us are working hard to catch up.

I watched some of The Puppy Bowl on Animal Planet yesterday as well....it was mentioned in yesterday's notes.  Very funny...and nice to come back to while watching other programming.

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Post by: JoseSPiano on February 07, 2005, 10:43:13 AM
Good Afternoon!

Back from my walk.... It's a Geee-orgeous day here.  Still a little bit of a chill in the air indicating that it's still winter, but warm enough to walk around with just a light jacket.  -And very warm when walking in the sun.

I ended making a trip down to Ukrop's to pick up some household stuff, and then window shopped at a few more places on the walk back up Cary Street.  I almost stopped for brunch/lunch someplace, but decided to nuke one of the frozen dinners I have in my freezer.  I'll treat myself to a real dinner after the Mac workshop this afternoon.

So... That's about it.  I'm just taking a breather, and enjoying some trash TV - "The Bold & The Beautiful" to be exact.

:)
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 07, 2005, 10:55:48 AM
I watched DEAD RINGER this morning.  ;D

VHS I bought for $2 - no need for the DVD.  The Andre Previn score is great.  Bette Davis and Karl Malden are good.  And Jean Hagen is a caution as a "friend of the family."

Bette:  My sister killed herself last night.

Jean:  Oh how awful, and right on top of Frank.

I WISH (no way it was possible) that Miss Frances Farmer had made this movie in 1964 (if she was sober and not in a fighting mood).  It would have been a great cap to her career, since one of her earliest successes had been in a "double" role.
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 07, 2005, 10:56:40 AM
Frances arriving in New York in 1958 for an appearance on the Ed Sullivan show - looking great!  ;D
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 07, 2005, 11:04:15 AM
Fellow HHW'ers - tonight at 9 pm EST is the 50th Anniversary of the first broadcast of LA AT LAST - the episode of "I Love Lucy" that is a favorite of many.   ;D

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Post by: Sandra on February 07, 2005, 11:04:47 AM
I hope the phone guy comes and fixes everything. And I hope he speaks English. Vibes for my mom. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Don't you just love it when you forget all about an assignment until right before it's due and then you have to hurry to get it done on time? Don't you just love it when you forget all about TWO assignments until right before they're due and you have to hurry double-fast to get them both done on time? Luckily, I still have time to write these two papers, but they really sneaked up on me. One of them is for IAAAAWWOTD and I'm not sure what it's about. I'm hoping one of my classmates will know and can clue me in on it. Although, I somehow doubt that.

I am faced with a problem. I really need a Cherry Coke, but if I get one, I won't be allowed to work on my History paper in the library and will have to sit outside where it's cold and windy and threatening to rain. Or, even worse, I would have to go to The Fifth Floor. What should I do?
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Post by: Stuart on February 07, 2005, 11:06:18 AM
All of us are working hard to catch up.

I watched some of The Puppy Bowl on Animal Planet yesterday as well....it was mentioned in yesterday's notes.  Very funny...and nice to come back to while watching other programming.

I caught some of that as well!  I thought it was quite charming.  Unfortunately, DC (Dear Canine, in HHW lingo) Morgan was not enthused about it, and thusly changed the channel.
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Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 11:08:00 AM
OOZE!
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Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 11:08:18 AM
Holy moley on rye - page four!
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Post by: JoseSPiano on February 07, 2005, 11:19:44 AM
OK - Time for me to head back out into the sunshine!!!

OH! - Be sure to check out Playbill.com and some other theatre sites...  Some great/interesting news about Patty Duke!
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 07, 2005, 11:24:57 AM
I already have a Hirschfeld print on my wall.
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 07, 2005, 11:26:16 AM
An original Chuck Jones, signed, would be nice.
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Post by: MBarnum on February 07, 2005, 11:37:11 AM
TOD: I would love an autographed 8X10 photo of Miss Allison Hayes. You all may have no idea, but such a thing would be quite expensive...and it would be costlier still to have her resurrected and brought back to life so that she could personalize the autograph!

JRand54, does have a personal autograph from her....am I in your will Jack???
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Post by: Jed on February 07, 2005, 11:40:31 AM
OMG DRCP - I am also 1/16th Cherokee Indian.

That makes three of us!  (...or perhaps I'm only 1/32nd... I think it's 1/16th, but not completely sure...)
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 07, 2005, 11:41:54 AM
Of course DRMBARNUM.

I have in fact three signatures of Miss Allison Hayes - one an inscription to me, and two handwritten responses to letters I sent her - Plus her written name on her return address.  Oh my!  I think I sent you copies of all of them.

DRJOSE - I am not sure what to make of the Patty Duke news....I am horrified and fascinated all at the same time...but I can see her when the Stage Manager goes to get her on opening night:

SM:  My God, she's got on her costume for the second act!

PD:  So I'll do the second act first.  
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 07, 2005, 11:42:29 AM
Another Indian brother....how fascinating.  
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 11:50:18 AM
Hey, I'm an Indian, too, a Sioux, ooh-ooh, a Sioux, ooh-ooh.
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Post by: Stuart on February 07, 2005, 11:54:25 AM
DRJOSE - I am not sure what to make of the Patty Duke news....I am horrified and fascinated all at the same time...but I can see her when the Stage Manager goes to get her on opening night:

SM:  My God, she's got on her costume for the second act!

PD:  So I'll do the second act first.  

 ;D
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 07, 2005, 12:00:47 PM
I thought that would be a nice preview for you DRKERRY!
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 07, 2005, 12:01:11 PM
MR BK - you are NOT an Indian yet!
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 12:05:12 PM
Welcome five GUESTS.  OOZE!
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Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 12:06:17 PM
Taking a little break.  Shortly I shall go to see if any packages have arrived for my mental delectation.  And I shall think about food, oh, yes, I shall think about food.
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Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 12:10:36 PM
Welcome seven GUESTS.  Always remember - you're a better man than I am, Gunga Din.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on February 07, 2005, 12:13:19 PM
Yeah, BK's an Indian like Mel Brooks was an Indian in BLAZING SADDLES.  He just OOZES Indian.
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Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 12:19:16 PM
I'm an Indian, too, I tell you.  A Sioux, ooh-ooh, a Sioux, ooh-ooh.   If Joey Bishop could play an Indian in Texas Across the River, well... I rest my case.
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 07, 2005, 12:26:51 PM
Joey Bishop was an Indian like J. Carroll Naish was an Indian in GUESTWARD HO!
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 07, 2005, 12:29:30 PM
See what I mean?   ;D

(http://www.crazyabouttv.com/Images/guestwardho.jpg)

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Post by: Charles Pogue on February 07, 2005, 12:32:47 PM
And J. Carroll Naish was an Indian like Edward Everett Horton was an Indian in F TROOP.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on February 07, 2005, 12:35:32 PM
And Edward Everett Horton was an Indian like Boris Karloff was an Indian in UNCONQUERED & TAP ROOTS.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 12:49:24 PM
I'm on my way to the mail jernt.  I'll be back shortly.  
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Post by: JoseSPiano on February 07, 2005, 12:51:39 PM
Good Afternoon!

Greetings from the Apple Store Short Pump Town Center in Richmond's "fashionable" West End.

;)

It's a slow day here at the Apple Store.  Five clerks and two customers - including myself.  I'm just waiting for the workshop to start at 4:00 - which is only about 10 minutes from now.

On the way over here, I dropped my cell phones off at the Sprint store so that I could have the phone book transferred from the old one to the new one.  It should be ready by the time I'm done here with the MacAddicts.

OK... That's all for now...
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Post by: Kerry on February 07, 2005, 01:04:12 PM
I can almost feel my wings now.

Jack, thanks for whetting my appetite for tonight's film.

As far as genuine Indians, how about Jeff Chandler, Rock Hudson, Michael Dante and Jeffrey Hunter?  Oh, and Natalie Wood.
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Post by: Rodzinski on February 07, 2005, 01:18:17 PM
I'm an Indian like Nat Pendleton in the Ritz Brothers "Life Begins in College."

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Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 01:18:18 PM
Is this a slow news day here at haineshisway.com?

OOZE!

Soon my new LARGE plateau shall be mine.
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Post by: William F. Orr on February 07, 2005, 01:19:36 PM
WFO,

How's  Joe doing?

Puff, puff, puff!  After a weekend away from this site, it takes all the reading you can do to stay in the same place!  (Oh, a Through the Looking Glass and What Alice Found There reference!

DR Kerry:  Thanks for asking.  This weather of ours--hot/cold/hot/cold--really takes it out of him, increases the cramping and exhaustion.  Saturday he was outside for about an hour at 50°, and when he came in his fingers felt frozen, but his head was feverish.  That is the paradox of his disease.

DR Pogue:  The one cast recording my parents had when I was little was Oklahoma!, the original, all on 78's.  For our younger members, that's why we speak of an "album".  It was bound like a photo album, with each "page" a paper envelope containing one large record, one song per side.  For the really young members among us a "record" was--oh, go look it up!

I still have that album somewhere in a box, what's left of it, after some broken records.  But of course I have nothing to play it on.  According to the latest CD of it, it was such a run-away best-seller that they brought the cast back into the studio to record Oklahoma! Volume 2, the other 3 songs:  "It's a Scandal", "The Farmer and the Cowboy", and "Lonely Room".  I know they weren't on our old 78s.  The first I heard of them was on the Nelson Eddy studio cast.

Didn't eat no pie this weekend.   :(
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Post by: Jane on February 07, 2005, 01:31:07 PM
OOZE

Hmm... Yesterday is was PHLEGM... Today it is OOZE...

What shall tomorrow bring?

:-\

I don't want to think about it.  ;D
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Post by: Charles Pogue on February 07, 2005, 01:31:08 PM
And, of course, Edward Everett Horton was an Indian like Sam Jaffe was an in Indian in GUNGA DIN.
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Post by: William F. Orr on February 07, 2005, 01:31:18 PM
Our recent TV viewing has deviated a little from our standard fare of Science Channel, SciFi monster-movie-of-the-week, slashers, sf, LotR, and Bond.  (The choised are usually Joe's.)

I'm in the middle of reading The Berlin Stories, so I prevailed upon J to watch Cabaret when it was on the other night.  I love all the variations on Isherwood's book, even though they vary immensely.  Actually, there are only two novellas in the book, "The Last of Mr. Norris", about a British con-man he met in Berlin, and "Goodbye Berlin", about Sally.  Even the name of Isherwood's character goes from William in the first to Christopher in the second.  (And Cliff and Brian in Cabaret!)  The one connecting tissue is Frau Schneider, the landlady, a remarkable character.  He says in his intro that he went back and visited her after the War, but he doesn't say anything about what happened to "Sally".  Except to mention that Julie Harris was more like Sally than the girl he based her on.

What struck me on rewatching the film is that, even though Cabaret is a musical, there is hardly any underscoring of the dialogue.  Only when there is a radio or record on in the background, like "Heiratet", which is "Married" sung in German.  This is in keeping with Fosse's concept of keeping all the music diegesic (sp?).  Couldn't get away with that today!

This is one windy post.  More later.
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 07, 2005, 01:33:44 PM
Or like Elvis Presley and Burgess Meredith were Indians in STAY AWAY JOE.
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Post by: Jane on February 07, 2005, 01:33:55 PM
Oh I see Ron thought about it-thanks. :P ;D
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Post by: William F. Orr on February 07, 2005, 01:34:02 PM
 [size=8]I won't dance.

Don't ask me!
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Post by: William F. Orr on February 07, 2005, 01:35:08 PM
Because smoke gets in my eyes.
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 07, 2005, 01:36:51 PM
I enjoy all of Christopher Isherwood's books and stories and diaries.  I particularly like DOWN THERE ON A VISIT - that had a great story I used as a monolog (condensed naturally) several times.  Hmmmmmm......trying to remember it.....
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Post by: Jane on February 07, 2005, 01:37:03 PM
I caught some of that as well!  I thought it was quite charming.  Unfortunately, DC (Dear Canine, in HHW lingo) Morgan was not enthused about it, and thusly changed the channel.

chuckle, chuckle.  :D
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 07, 2005, 01:37:19 PM
Oh I see Ron thought about it-thanks. :P ;D

I think George's response was good....

Blech!
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on February 07, 2005, 01:37:31 PM
I have never seen a Gunga Din movie.

Hoo and Ray! The phone line is fixed!! And it only took about 2.5 hours.
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 07, 2005, 01:37:33 PM
DR JOSES is learning all about Apple in a CLASS....imagine!  Wonder if the teacher is Miss Frances or Miss Crabtree?
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 07, 2005, 01:38:09 PM
Congratulations on getting your Don Ameche repaired DRLAURA.
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Post by: Jane on February 07, 2005, 01:39:43 PM

Bruce have you been to the Norman Rockwell museum in the charming town of Stockbridge Massachusetts?  One incredibly beautiful autumn we visited the town.  We were fortunate to get reservations at the Red Lion Inn, which just happens to have great clam chowder.  We traveled for the leaves and out of curiosity went to the museum.  It was the first time we had seen his original works and were amazed how wonderful they were.


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Post by: William F. Orr on February 07, 2005, 01:44:18 PM
And then we saw Holes.

I was surprised that Joe suggested it after reading the brief description in TV Guide.  He usually shies away from anything involving jails or prisons, especially after his horrible experience last year.

And, he admitted to me later, he was tempted to switch the channel several times during the beginning of the movie--it brought back painful memories.  

But we stuck it out, and we were both delighted.  I think what I liked about the weird style of the movie was that it didn't try to be anything but itself, and the author/screenwriter had a very clear vision of what he wanted to do and how.  So many movies we see are a copy of a copy of a copy.  Where is originality?  Must everything be a "reference" (read "ripoff") to another movie?

There were a few hole in Holes that have me wanting to read the book to shore up the relationships between the flashbacks and the present.  But I highly recommend it.  Sigourney Weaver and John Voigt steal it as the villains.

And btw, vixmom, it is supposed to be a children's movie, and it has a minimum of poop jokes, I do believe, and quite a feel-good ending.
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Post by: Rodzinski on February 07, 2005, 01:45:47 PM
For my memoribilia, after much thought, I have decided on the first "PEP" or "Archie" Comic where my spiritual twin and hero, Jughead, makes his first appearance.
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Post by: Matt H. on February 07, 2005, 01:46:46 PM
I have now finished the entire LAW & ORDER: CRIMINAL INTENT third season boxed set. It took many days to get through all the episodes and the bonus features.

As for the Warners boxed sets of films, I don't really care what they call the collection as long as we get them. I had no idea ADVISE AND CONSENT was on the horizon.
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Post by: William F. Orr on February 07, 2005, 01:46:47 PM
And with that, I must leave the office.

TTFN, all of y'all.
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Post by: Jane on February 07, 2005, 01:48:08 PM
Joey Bishop was an Indian like J. Carroll Naish was an Indian in GUESTWARD HO!

My classmate Flip was in the series.  Now i believe he doesn't live far from DR Laura and Sandra.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 01:49:21 PM
I'm thinking about food.

I had two count them two packages.  Some CDs and a DVD, all from France, and a copy of the Scent of Mystery soundtrack LP which I recently won on eBay.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 01:50:15 PM
A mere fifteen posts until my new LARGE plateau.
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Post by: Matt H. on February 07, 2005, 01:50:36 PM
One nice thing about November, February, and May sweeps months is that we get new episodes of our favorites series. A new '24' and a new MEDIUM tonight.
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Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 01:50:40 PM
I haven't visited the Rockwell museum, but will someday.
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Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 01:52:05 PM
So far, I'm thinkin' tacos or pizza.  

The sun really wants to come out, but the gray sky has seen fit not to let it.  But now the sun has its boxing gloves on and it's trying its hardest.
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Post by: Jane on February 07, 2005, 01:54:22 PM
My classmate Flip was in the series.  Now i believe he doesn't live far from DR Laura and Sandra.

I might have posted this next to his photo.  ;D
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Jane on February 07, 2005, 01:58:15 PM
Kerry a Pisaro would be nice to own, however, my item of choice would be an original manuscript of GREAT EXPECTATIONS or DAVID COPPERFIELD.  I would settle for a first printing of either book signed by the author.

WFO please send feel better vibes to Joe.

Bruce you should visit the museum and try to go in the fall, if you can get reservations for a hotel at that time of year.


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Post by: Jane on February 07, 2005, 02:01:10 PM
Ron our dinner Saturday night, including the corn bread, was a hit.  Our friends took some of the corn bread home with them.  I ate the remainder for breakfast yesterday, first just cold and plain, and then heated with some butter and sugar.  Our friends said they were going to put honey on top.  I liked it best cold and plain first thing in the morning.
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Post by: Jane on February 07, 2005, 02:02:03 PM
What is the link to the Patty Duke story?
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Kerry on February 07, 2005, 02:02:20 PM
Maybe Jose got the Beav's teachers, the Misses Canfield and Landers.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 02:02:45 PM
Corn bread - now there's an idea.  I could just mosey on over to Trader Joe's and get me some corn bread mix.  Hmmm.  Of course, I also have quite a few Entenmann's chocolate donuts left, and I also have some Vanilla Swiss Almond Ice Cream left.  Hmmmm.
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 07, 2005, 02:10:24 PM
Flip Mark - wow!  He was also one of the sons with Doris Day in PLEASE DON'T EAT THE DAISIES!
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Jrand73 on February 07, 2005, 02:12:29 PM
Ice Cream, cornbread, and donuts.  The Dinner of Champions.


DRJANE here is the Patty Duke link.  ;D

http://www.playbill.com/news/article/91048.html (http://www.playbill.com/news/article/91048.html)
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Jane on February 07, 2005, 02:14:43 PM
I met Flip in 7th grade.  It has been about a year since we have communicated.  I should write him and say hello.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Jrand73 on February 07, 2005, 02:14:54 PM
True, DR KERRY - or even better - well BEST would be Miss Dove.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Jrand73 on February 07, 2005, 02:17:10 PM
Oh yes, you must, DRJANE.  I also thought he was very good as Eddie Foy Jr's son in FAIR EXCHANGE!
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Charles Pogue on February 07, 2005, 02:30:54 PM
Laura, you have never seen "a" Gunga Din movie?  There is only "one" Gunga Din movie!
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Post by: Matt H. on February 07, 2005, 02:37:02 PM
Laura, you have never seen "a" Gunga Din movie?  There is only "one" Gunga Din movie!

I was going to say the same thing but thought maybe she knew something I didn't know!
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: MBarnum on February 07, 2005, 02:56:49 PM
You know I saw Flip Mark in something or other just recently! And he was in an episode of Jack Benny show and an episode of Lassie!

Hey, DR Jane, ask him if he wants to do an interview...I would be most pleased to do a story on him!
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Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 02:58:53 PM
Gunga is in good company, Laura-wise.  She's never seen a Bogart movie nor a Gregory Peck movie.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 03:00:04 PM
I'm having tuna on a bagel.  

I just do not like the whole Trader Joe's vibe, I must say.  I got some corn bread mix there, and the majority of the people who shop there are so uppity and attitude-laden, as are their little children who are, of course, just taking after mommy and daddy.
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Post by: td on February 07, 2005, 03:20:23 PM
Or like Elvis Presley and Burgess Meredith were Indians in STAY AWAY JOE.
Same source material for Susan Johnson's WHOOP-UP, ne c'est-pas?
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: td on February 07, 2005, 03:23:41 PM

I had two count them two packages.  Some CDs and a DVD, all from France, and a copy of the Scent of Mystery soundtrack LP which I recently won on eBay.

I got an autographed copy of a Billy Herrington video in the mail today.  ;D
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Charles Pogue on February 07, 2005, 03:29:19 PM
Well, I read where the Mousetrap in London is still booking to December 5, 2005.  Will the beast never die?

Jane, I meant to tell you that if my link to BBC7 doesn't work just type it into your search engine and I'm sure it will bring you to the site (or just go to the BBC page which will link you to everything BBC...radio and TV), then click on the "LISTEN AGAIN" section...and it take to a page where you can get programmes for the last seven days that you can listen to at anytime.
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Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 03:30:58 PM
Welcome back to our very own Mr. Donald Feltham.  Check out the new radio show.
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Post by: Kerry on February 07, 2005, 03:31:14 PM
td--
how nice for you. :P
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Charles Pogue on February 07, 2005, 03:31:39 PM
BK, it must be the vibe at your particular Trader's...I don't get much of a vibe one way or t'other at the various ones I go to...and the selection and items are so good, I don't much care if there were.  You going to that one next to Du-par's?
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 03:31:53 PM
Only eight more posts until my new LARGE plateau.  This is getting exciting.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 07, 2005, 03:32:33 PM
Corn bread - now there's an idea.  I could just mosey on over to Trader Joe's and get me some corn bread mix.  Hmmm.  Of course, I also have quite a few Entenmann's chocolate donuts left, and I also have some Vanilla Swiss Almond Ice Cream left.  Hmmmm.

Corn bread mix?   A MIX?

After all those simple-as-pie recipes we've posted here that would beat any mix by a mile?

Where's the spirit?  Where's the moxie?  Where's the adventure?

Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 03:33:01 PM
Yes, the Trader Joe's next to Du-Par's.  You know how some Studio City people are - they just think the world revolves around them.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 07, 2005, 03:33:47 PM
Only eight more posts until my new LARGE plateau.  This is getting exciting.


Is there gonna be a prize?
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 07, 2005, 03:36:16 PM
Does anybody else out there have the "Bunny Lake..." DVD?

If so, did you notice the very strange opening titles?

On my TV, the titles showed up as a mini-letterboxed-image as though I was going to get a miniature letterbox version of the film....and after the final main credit, it went to full widescreen, touching both sides of my TV picture.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 07, 2005, 03:38:46 PM
Lunch today:  Reuben on toasted rye with a side of potato salad.  Ate at the Big Apple Deli on Oakland's 14th Street in the heart of downtown...

On the way out, I spied the deli owner frying fish and I commented it looked really good.  He broke off a huge hunk of it and handed it to me to "try" --- and it was scrumptious, truly....piquant and flavorful...and it was salmon, too.
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Post by: Rodzinski on February 07, 2005, 03:40:25 PM
Be careful. I've read about a P-10K Problem. Not every message board was set up to handle over 9,999 posts. When the digits flip the fallout could be catastrophic. World banks will be affected and your taste buds will render all your food "chalky".  
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 07, 2005, 03:40:27 PM
I gave Miss Vickie a good brushing yesterday afternoon.  It has become a less-enjoyable activity for her as she is now just skin and bones, but she was looking a bit tatty...fortunately, no fur was matted.

She tolerated my gentle ministrations very appreciatively...and I must have brushed away 25% of her body weight in fur.

Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 07, 2005, 03:41:15 PM
Be careful. I've read about a P-10K Problem. Not every message board was set up to handle over 9,999 posts. When the digits flip the fallout could be catastrophic. World banks will be affected and your taste buds will render all your food "chalky".  


He may just re-set to zero.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Jrand73 on February 07, 2005, 03:44:04 PM
It's the voodoo, I tells ya, it's the voodoo!
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: td on February 07, 2005, 03:44:47 PM
td--
how nice for you. :P

Nice that I know about WHOOP-UP?   ::) OR . . nice to have been conquered?  :-X

(my lips are sealed).
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 03:45:05 PM
The Bunny credits are very strange.  If you're watching the disc on a widescreen TV, the main title image is letterboxed in a 4:3 image.  Peculiar.  Some wag on one of these idiot sites suggested that they were merely windowboxed to get all the image in.  Obviously, the wag doesn't understand the term "windowbox".  I cannot, for the life of me, figure it out.  It was the same way on TCM when they showed it.  It most certainly was not that way in the theaters.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Jrand73 on February 07, 2005, 03:45:12 PM
10,000 posts AND daily notes all this time - I would guess that is as many words as WAR AND PEACE!
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Jrand73 on February 07, 2005, 03:45:54 PM
Yes td the VERY same source material.  Huffington....any relation to Ariana?
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 03:46:01 PM
A mere five posts until my new LARGE plateau.

And when I achieve it, I will be OOZING with excitement.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Rodzinski on February 07, 2005, 03:46:29 PM
JRand, you never did say what song from Chitty seems a knockoff of a song from Half a Sixpence.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 03:46:38 PM
The boxing match between the sun and the gray clouds will end up a draw.  The sun had a couple of good rounds in the last hour.
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Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 03:47:36 PM
Holy moley on rye - page seven!
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 03:48:04 PM
The suspense - the suspense
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Jrand73 on February 07, 2005, 03:48:09 PM
So now movies are being released in Windowbox?  LOL....perfect for FLOWERS IN THE ATTIC and  FLOWER DRUM SONG, no doubt.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 03:49:53 PM
I'm trying not to have premature plateau.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Jrand73 on February 07, 2005, 03:52:49 PM
Congratulations to MR BK!  ;D

(http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/party/party-smiley-038.gif)


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Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 03:52:52 PM
Well, here it is -  drum roll - kaiser roll -

10,000 POSTS!

If that doesn't call for an OOZE, I don't know what does.

Now, everybody off their butt cheeks because we're havin' a partay.  C'mon, now, everybody - MAMBO ITALIANO!
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Rodzinski on February 07, 2005, 03:52:53 PM
Charles Pogue- I never saw Four Feathers, but I remember being mad when Ebert reviewed it (What does he think he is, Ebert and Roeper?), because it seemed he was knocking the movie for NOT taking some new, modern political slant on it. He also suggested because the director was Indian, a more critical eye should have been turned towards the imperial Brits.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: td on February 07, 2005, 03:54:07 PM
Yes td the VERY same source material.  Huffington....any relation to Ariana?

HERRINGTON, not Huffington. . .like herringbone. . .  :o
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Rodzinski on February 07, 2005, 03:54:43 PM
10,000! Congratulations!!!! Only tops me by an over 100:1 post ratio. I'll have to get on the ball.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 03:55:34 PM
I'm through writing for the day.  What fun parts of this book are for me to work on.  

My tuna on bagel was yummilicious.  I may have a nice donut in a little while.  I've chosen this evening's DVD - which is the one that arrived today: Patrice Leconte's The Hairdresser's Husband, which I haven't seen since it was released.  My memory of it is that it is a delightful and warm-hearted film.
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Post by: td on February 07, 2005, 03:55:58 PM
Congrats, BK!
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 07, 2005, 03:58:05 PM
Oh sorry, td....you can imagine my embarrassment.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 04:03:46 PM
One of the CDs I got from France is called The Cinema of Patrice Leconte.  It features tracks from all his films through 2001.  I knew nothing of it, just saw it listed on amazon France.  It turns out it's a numbered limited edition.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 04:04:41 PM
Tomorrow, my amazon package should arrive: Thieves Highway, Night and the City, and The Widow of St. Pierre (of Patrice Leconte).
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Charles Pogue on February 07, 2005, 04:15:54 PM
Rodzinski, 4 FEATHERS was directed by an acquaintance of mine, Shekar Kapur, an Indian of the East Indian variety,  a lovely man with whom I spent a pleasantly boozy weekend with in Beaune, France at a film conference.  He directed the wonderful ELIZABETH with Cate Blanchett a few years back.   As I said, I haven't seen all of his 4 FEATHERS so I can't really give it a total review, but my feeling was he did give a nod to the larger imperialist issue.  From what I saw of this one, there were moments I missed from the original '39 movie...which I love.  

I think the story is a personal quest of one man...not about the political quest of a nation...Yes, some of those issues may lap over in the course of the personal, but it shouldn't become a poitical tract...It's not what the story is about...So I think Roger is wrong.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 07, 2005, 04:18:22 PM
10,000 posts AND daily notes all this time - I would guess that is as many words as WAR AND PEACE!

Maybe in the Cliff's Notes version...!
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 07, 2005, 04:21:09 PM
Rodzinski:  Every time I see your avatar and read your name, I hear "Lara's Theme"...I don't know why!
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: George on February 07, 2005, 04:33:10 PM
BK, Congratulations at posting the first 10,000th post!!
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 07, 2005, 04:37:48 PM
BK, Congratulations at posting the first 10,000th post!!

The first?  

I'm guessing JRand54 might make it to that number by the time he's JRand58!
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 07, 2005, 04:38:18 PM
Doink!  We have 200 (count 'em 200) posts at this point (unless some get deleted).
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Jane on February 07, 2005, 04:46:10 PM
Oh yes, you must, DRJANE.  I also thought he was very good as Eddie Foy Jr's son in FAIR EXCHANGE!

I did.

MBarnum I will ask when he writes back.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: td on February 07, 2005, 04:52:29 PM
Oh sorry, td....you can imagine my embarrassment.

Are your cheeks all flushed and reddened?    :-[
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Jane on February 07, 2005, 05:00:54 PM
Yes, the Trader Joe's next to Du-Par's.  You know how some Studio City people are - they just think the world revolves around them.

I was there a couple of times and everyone was very friendly, even in December.  Du-par's then Trader Joe's, two special treats in a row. :)
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Post by: Kerry on February 07, 2005, 05:04:57 PM
BK-
Do we party now?  Pantaloons, party hats, a special 10,000th post dance?
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Rodzinski on February 07, 2005, 05:13:50 PM
Ron Pulliam-  For Christmas, I got my mother Dr. Zhivago for I recalled her saying it was one of her all-time favorites. I never heard from her about it, so I thought, well, okay. Finally after a few weeks, she says, "I wanted to thank you for the movie you got me but I was a little puzzled as it is one of my LEAST favorite movies of all time."

Boy, did I get that wrong!
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Post by: Jane on February 07, 2005, 05:17:25 PM
I gave Miss Vickie a good brushing yesterday afternoon.  It has become a less-enjoyable activity for her as she is now just skin and bones, but she was looking a bit tatty...fortunately, no fur was matted.

She tolerated my gentle ministrations very appreciatively...and I must have brushed away 25% of her body weight in fur.

It is so hard when they become thin like that or grooming is difficult.  At least Bogie's favorite activity is still to be brushed.  These days he is often nervous when I go near him, wondering what new torture I'm thinking up for him.  Today he began meds to lower his blood pressure.  Thursday, to make it less stressful to him, the vet will come here to recheck his blood pressure.  She is doing this on her day off.

Give Miss Vickie a kiss and hug from me.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Jane on February 07, 2005, 05:23:02 PM
Rodzinsi-LOL.

Could Ron be thinking Rod Steiger?  
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: S. Woody White on February 07, 2005, 05:51:09 PM
This is in keeping with Fosse's concept of keeping all the music diegesic (sp?).
I think the word is diegetic, but it's not in my dictionary.  Damn them, damn them all to hell.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Jrand73 on February 07, 2005, 06:03:29 PM
50 Years Ago RIGHT NOW.....EST......L.A. AT LAST!

Lucy: Well I guess we could drive up and down hunting for movie stars.  It takes so much time to track them down one at a time.  There must be some place where they all get together in a herd.

William F: Well maybe at sundown they all gather at the same watering hole.

Lucy: That's it.  Fellow hunters, we are going to the Brown Derby for lunch!
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: td on February 07, 2005, 06:06:10 PM
Even using GuruNet, it doesn't come up, and I KNOW that there is a word for those songs in musicals. . .
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 06:09:44 PM
I'm watching the sublime The Hairdresser's Husband.

I ate a dount and some ice cream.

I'm fighting a little headache which has been dancing about my temples for the last two hours.
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 07, 2005, 06:16:25 PM
[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]For ooze a jolly good fellow!
For ooze a jolly good fellow!!
For ooze a jolly good fellow!!!
Which nobody can deny!!!!![/move]
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: MBarnum on February 07, 2005, 06:24:41 PM
I got an autographed copy of a Billy Herrington video in the mail today.  ;D

I presume that is Billy Herrington the "actor"! If so, then woohoo! LOL!
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: td on February 07, 2005, 06:29:43 PM
I presume that is Billy Herrington the "actor"! If so, then woohoo! LOL!

Woohoo! Indeed. I've tried to find a suitable photo to post of Mr. H., but. . .well, that's the way the kumquat OOZEs. . . . :o
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Jane on February 07, 2005, 06:30:01 PM

Jane, I meant to tell you that if my link to BBC7 doesn't work just type it into your search engine and I'm sure it will bring you to the site (or just go to the BBC page which will link you to everything BBC...radio and TV), then click on the "LISTEN AGAIN" section...and it take to a page where you can get programmes for the last seven days that you can listen to at anytime.

Thanks, I'm still working on it.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: MBarnum on February 07, 2005, 06:33:26 PM
Somehow or other I ended up on Billy Herrington's e-mail list and I get e-mails from him regularly...I must have visited a website I shouldn't have! LOL!
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: MBarnum on February 07, 2005, 06:34:44 PM
Our Trader Joe's in Lake Oswego is nice...but a lot of KILL YOUR TELEVISION bumper stickers in the parking lot...and that always scares me!

I love my television set and could never kill it!  :o
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Jane on February 07, 2005, 06:49:07 PM
MBarnum-LOL
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Jrand73 on February 07, 2005, 06:50:59 PM
What does Kill Your Television Set mean?
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: td on February 07, 2005, 06:51:20 PM
Somehow or other I ended up on Billy Herrington's e-mail list and I get e-mails from him regularly...I must have visited a website I shouldn't have! LOL!

Yeah, that's MY excuse, too.   ;)
(seriously, though, the package -so to speak - was work related).
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 07, 2005, 07:08:27 PM
Oohhhh... That Billy Herrington...

 :o

 :P

 ;D
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 07, 2005, 07:17:12 PM
Rodzinsi-LOL.

Could Ron be thinking Rod Steiger?  

Nah...he doesn't look like Steiger...more like Tom Courtenay.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 07, 2005, 07:19:22 PM
I'm watching the sublime The Hairdresser's Husband.

I ate a dount and some ice cream.

I'm fighting a little headache which has been dancing about my temples for the last two hours.

Ahhh...yes....the temples dance.  I know it well.  I don't suppose a little Rozsa from "King of Kings" would play well about now????
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 07, 2005, 07:25:33 PM
Good evening!

Back from the Apple Store...

Well, no "class" today since there was no one else in the store at the time.  So I ended up with a one-on-one with one of the Mac specialists.  I really didn't have that many questions, but I actually ended up asking a question that sort of stumped him.  And a few of his co-workers.  ;)  I still learned a few things, and I'll head back when they have one of the iLife demos/workshops.  I may actually give the Garage Band program a try.

After my Mac fix, I walked around the Mall and did some more window shopping.  What was amazing to see was the number of closed and empty storefronts since this Mall has only been open for about 14 months so far.  That's the retail biz I guess.

Then it was over to Arby's for some dinner.  This location is not your typical Arby's.  There's a family that runs most of the Arby's locations in the Richmond area, and some of the locations are quite upgraded.  Table service, real plates, real silverware, etc.  I ended up having a steak sandwich that was cooked to order, plus some fries and a Jamocha shake.  Oh, and there are four HDTV screens set up, each set up to a different channel.  I settled in front of the FoodTV one, and for my Ina Garten fix for the week.

Then it was over to CompUSA.  I guess it's not meant for me to buy a new digital camera or printer this week - both models I wanted were out of stock.  But, I did pick up Microsoft Office for the Mac - and just finished installing it.

Then it was over to Target for a Universal Remote - the TV remote here at the apartment seems to have blown up or something.  -And I'm not even going to bother with asking my roommate what happened.  At least it wasn't mine - and the new one was only $7.00, so... No big whoop.

And now I'm here.

Exciting, huh?
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 07:26:19 PM
Yes, King of Kings, starring the divoon Frank Thring - danssssse Salome.

Can one of you computer whiz kids tell me what batteur means in French.  I think it's drummer.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 07, 2005, 07:28:46 PM
Oh... While I was at CompUSA I finally checked out HP's "small" laser printer - and it's currently on sale for only $149. Hmm...  I don't print out photos, so... Hmm...
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Rodzinski on February 07, 2005, 07:32:31 PM
Drummer, yes.

JoseS- Garage Band is pretty sweet.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Jrand73 on February 07, 2005, 07:48:16 PM
Time for a Sloppy Joe sandwich.

I think I will watch THREE COINS IN THE FOUNTAIN tonight.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Rodzinski on February 07, 2005, 07:51:07 PM
Make it mine!
Make it mine!
Make it mine!
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: MBarnum on February 07, 2005, 08:09:01 PM
JRand54, the KILL YOUR TELEVISION contingent believes that television is:

"An addictive device which keeps the lower classes subdued; a perpetuator of violence and materialism; and a silent destroyer of intellectualism"

Now, what they fail to understand is that without television no one would be able to see a June Kenney or Allison Hayes movie! If they were to have the opportunity to view, oh say, ATTACK OF THE 50 FT WOMAN or EARTH VS THE SPIDER,  I  do think they would be singing a different tune.......or not! LOL!
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Matt H. on February 07, 2005, 08:21:46 PM
I had Taco Bell for lunch. I hadn't been there in awhile, and I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 07, 2005, 08:21:47 PM
BK - Or any other Mac-ers...

Have you checked out the program, Delicious Library?  Very cool cataloguing/home library system.  You enter or scan the barcodes on your CDs, DVDs and books, and it looks up the info on the internet - and will even place a "picture" of it into your computer library set-up.  Pretty neat.  And not too expensive either.  I'm not sure I want to spurge on an iSight camera right now, but the info can be entered by hand too.

http://www.delicious-monster.com
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Matt H. on February 07, 2005, 08:26:32 PM
Finally got around to watching NUMBERS which I had recorded from last Friday night. It IS a good series, but it is certainly wasting Judd Hirsch in a nothing father role. Like Ken Howard who was finally phased out of CROSSING JORDAN playing Jill Hennessey's father, these father characters just don't interact in the cases, and since these ARE procedural dramas, family life isn't really necessary to the plots.

In the two (out of three) episodes of NUMBERS that I've seen, Hirsch mainly spent his time yammering at his genius mathematics whiz kid for not being married. Oy!
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Matt H. on February 07, 2005, 08:29:09 PM
SPOILER ALERT FOR '24'



Another fantastic hour of '24' tonight. I was a bit disappointed that another mole had been planted at CTU, but rather than stretch out her sabotage for weeks and weeks, she was discovered and apprehended fairly quickly after setting someone else up to take the fall. Before the hour was up, '24' had totally redeemed itself yet again.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 07, 2005, 08:31:20 PM
DR MattH - Did you need to put a SPOILER ALERT on your previous post for the West Coast viewers?
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Matt H. on February 07, 2005, 08:37:56 PM
Actually, viewers of the show knew who the mole was. I didn't tip off who she pinned the rap on, how she got caught, or any of the real surprises of the hour.

Nevertheless, I did put an alert there just in case.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 07, 2005, 08:50:31 PM
Actually, viewers of the show knew who the mole was. I didn't tip off who she pinned the rap on, how she got caught, or any of the real surprises of the hour.

Nevertheless, I did put an alert there just in case.

Ah, OK..  I haven't watched this season yet, so...
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 07, 2005, 09:03:54 PM
BK - Congrats on reaching the 10K Mark!
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Sandra on February 07, 2005, 09:05:44 PM
The phone line gave out after an hour. Whatever problem there is is in the wires in the walls of the house, because the phone line works up until it gets to the junction box on the exterior wall in the backyard.

So right now, I am in the backyard in a lawn chair with a modem cord plugged into the juction box and the laptop, as the miracle seems to be over (Oh, a Brigadoon reference). My dad keeps singing the Green Acres theme song.

My mom was so kind as to take a picture.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 07, 2005, 09:06:51 PM
Oh, and I'm digging this whole Tab browsing feature in Safari.  Very handy.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 09:12:48 PM
What's a tab browsing thing in Safari?

I'm watching the extras on the Raging Bull SE.  I've never much cared for the film itself (I admire its craft, certainly) - it's the usual Laurent Bouzereau snooze-fest.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: td on February 07, 2005, 09:13:11 PM
Oohhhh... That Billy Herrington...

 :o

 :P

 ;D

I didn't mean to make everyone's jaws drop. . . 8)
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 07, 2005, 09:20:13 PM
What's a tab browsing thing in Safari?

I'm watching the extras on the Raging Bull SE.  I've never much cared for the film itself (I admire its craft, certainly) - it's the usual Laurent Bouzereau snooze-fest.

Tab browsing allows you to open multiple windows in the same window.  A new "Tab" will appear below the Bookmark bar.  Just hit the Apple-Key + T.  You'll get a blank window in which to type in the new URL - or you can just select one of your bookmarks.

Plus, you can set up folders with assorted links that you normally open at the same time.  If you set the Folder pref to Enable Tab browsing, it will open a window with all the links open in Tabs.

It's something you need to try to see how it functions.

Or go to one of the free workshops at the Apple store like I did.

;)
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 07, 2005, 09:22:59 PM
Oh, and you can also open a hyper-link on a page you're currently browsing in a Tab by holding down the Apple-Key while you click on the Link.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: td on February 07, 2005, 09:27:05 PM
I've been tabbing like crazy since I started using Mozilla's Firefox.  ;D
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Joey on February 07, 2005, 09:38:25 PM
Thanks to everyone for their suggestions today. I just got finished with our first full run through with tech for Godspell about an hour ago. We started at 6 and went to 11:30. I am now sleepy and have to wake up early tomorrow to finish my homework. I may just let good ole Satchmo lull me to dreamland with "Sleepy Time Down South." Goodnight all!
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Charles Pogue on February 07, 2005, 10:07:21 PM
Here it is only ten o'clock and I am the only one persuing this board.  Jose, I saw something about this bar-code reading cataloguing system the other day.  It would be very good for DVDs, half and half on Videos, since so many are ones I've taped off telly, and virtually useless for me as far as books are concerned as most of mine are old books and have no bar code on them and most are collectible and have increased in price, sometimes ten to a hundred-fold of what I paid for them.  

I have a system of book cataloguing in an my old DOS stuff, which I don't think I can access any longer.  I had only catalogued maybe 1,500 or 2,000 of the roughly six thousand I owned, but I shudder at the thought of having to start all over again.  And it's an unending job, because even the catalogued ones continue to periodically increase in value.  One of these years I may have six months I can spare to do the whole thing properly.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Jrand73 on February 07, 2005, 10:10:36 PM
Yawn.

Exactly....to earlier comments by ROSZINSKI and MBARNUM....exactly!
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 07, 2005, 10:22:33 PM
Well, I'm gonna start getting ready to head to bed.  I'm surprisingly very tired already.. and it's not even 2:00AM - or 3:00AM for that matter. ???

Off to the land of the Wussburgers...

Goodnight
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Jed on February 07, 2005, 10:55:11 PM
Wow... nobody else here the entire time I've been catching up on today's posts.  Talk about lullsville...
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 11:04:19 PM
I don't know from tab, I'm a diet coke man myself.

Is it siesta time?  I mean, the WUSSBURGERING around this jernt is gettin' to be an epidemic.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 11:34:47 PM
Has Ann caught up?
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: Ann on February 07, 2005, 11:45:26 PM
Ann has caught up.  Can't think of one interesting thing to say, though.  Ah well
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: bk on February 07, 2005, 11:48:42 PM
Well, then you'll want to read tomorrow's notes.  

And when you can't think of anything interesting to say, you can always say OOZE.
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: George on February 07, 2005, 11:58:29 PM
Let me just say that I thought that tonight's episode of "Medium" was quite good.  Now two daughters have the "gift." :o
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: George on February 07, 2005, 11:59:38 PM
I didn't mean to make everyone's jaws drop. . . 8)

This was not a bad thing, though! ;)
Title: Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
Post by: George on February 08, 2005, 12:01:24 AM
Oh, and:  OOZE!!