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Title: O FOR TUNA
Post by: bk on May 09, 2019, 12:02:30 AM
Well, you've read the notes, the notes were written to the tune of O For Tuna, and now it is time for you to post until the for tuna cows come home.
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Post by: bk on May 09, 2019, 12:03:15 AM
And the word of the day is: STRATAGEM!
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Post by: TCB on May 09, 2019, 12:13:10 AM
First post after BK.
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Post by: Jane on May 09, 2019, 12:14:54 AM
When do you need to leave your apartment?
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Post by: TCB on May 09, 2019, 12:15:43 AM
T.O.D.


HANDEL’S MESSIAH
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Post by: Jane on May 09, 2019, 12:16:35 AM
I am thrilled for you.  The reduction in your price and costs makes the difficulties worth it.
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Post by: Jane on May 09, 2019, 12:17:21 AM
CONGRATULATIONS!
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Post by: jan on May 09, 2019, 12:21:44 AM
ODE TO JOY!!  So, it's official?  You have a condo?
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Post by: TCB on May 09, 2019, 12:21:58 AM
CONGRATULATIONS!


Thank you, Jane.
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Post by: jan on May 09, 2019, 12:23:32 AM
Lady Jane, injuries or have my dental problems protected you?   ;)
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Post by: TCB on May 09, 2019, 12:23:39 AM
ODE TO JOY!!  So, it's official?  You have a condo?


Yes, its official.  I just need to sign the papers and hand over the deposit.
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Post by: Jane on May 09, 2019, 12:26:55 AM
Lady Jane, injuries or have my dental problems protected you?   ;)

Yup, all my recent tests and checks so far are looking good.  I will think of you tomorrow as my teeth are getting cleaned.
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Post by: Jane on May 09, 2019, 12:27:20 AM
ODE TO JOY!!  So, it's official?  You have a condo?


Yes, its official.  I just need to sign the papers and hand over the deposit.

Exciting!
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Post by: jan on May 09, 2019, 12:28:00 AM
I am so happy for you, Tom.  Have you told Nicky and is he okay with it?
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Post by: TCB on May 09, 2019, 12:28:23 AM
Overwhelming
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Post by: TCB on May 09, 2019, 12:28:55 AM
Good night, Jane.
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Post by: TCB on May 09, 2019, 12:29:10 AM
Good night, jan.
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Post by: TCB on May 09, 2019, 12:29:28 AM
Good night, George.
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Post by: jan on May 09, 2019, 12:30:02 AM
do you want to change dental procedures with me?  I'll get my teeth cleaned again.
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Post by: Jane on May 09, 2019, 12:32:54 AM
😄
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Post by: Jane on May 09, 2019, 12:33:35 AM
Did I miss the post that you have a driver?
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Post by: jan on May 09, 2019, 12:34:14 AM
So, that's a no? 
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Post by: George on May 09, 2019, 12:35:23 AM
Good night, Tom
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Post by: jan on May 09, 2019, 12:35:35 AM
They said I wouldn't need a driver since they aren't knocking me out.
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Post by: jan on May 09, 2019, 12:46:06 AM
George, how's milady tonight?  Give her cuddles from me.
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Post by: jan on May 09, 2019, 12:48:12 AM
Have to crash now.  Sleep well.
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Post by: George on May 09, 2019, 12:50:17 AM
George, how's milady tonight?  Give her cuddles from me.

She's doing well, and will enjoy the cuddles!
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Post by: George on May 09, 2019, 01:13:29 AM
And now, I'm off to bed.

Have a good day, all!
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Post by: bk on May 09, 2019, 01:15:01 AM
Yay for TCB!
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Post by: ChasSmith on May 09, 2019, 05:04:48 AM
Good morning, all.
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Post by: John G. on May 09, 2019, 05:12:38 AM
Two!
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Post by: John G. on May 09, 2019, 05:12:50 AM
Good morning, all.
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Post by: ChasSmith on May 09, 2019, 05:13:27 AM
The use of "O Fortuna" (and the following piece "Fortune Plano Vulnera") in umpteen action/fantasy/medieval/you-name-it movie trailers is laughable. And now when they do use something else (whether original or not, I wouldn't know), it's invariably in the same style and in the same key (D minor) as those. I think we can say that Carmina Burana has been test-marketed to HELL and back.
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Post by: ChasSmith on May 09, 2019, 05:42:22 AM
Interesting notes about Carmina Burana, and the Jochum recording in particular.

When I was just out of high school, the Ormandy recording was my introduction to the piece (and to Orff), and its beauty and musicality will always hold a top place for me. For years I'd try others and just not be attracted to them for various reasons. A few years later while in college I bought the Jochum LP, mainly because I'd been taken with Deutsche Grammophon recordings, but I found it disappointing, too. I don't recall what other ones I may have sampled back then, but there weren't very many at the time.

I eventually let that Jochum recording go, and many years later the Robert Shaw/Atlanta one on Telarc became my new favorite, right up there with Ormandy's. In spite of any differences in concept, I thought Shaw was Ormandy's equal in his handling of the piece, and the playing and singing were beautiful. So now I had two go-to's whenever I needed my fix.

Over the intervening years I tried the Stokowski, which I found very dull- or weird-sounding on the LP, and Previn's which I found simply dull, musically, even though it was very well recorded. In the 1980s Levine recorded it with Chicago and his tempos and precision were refreshing to these ears. And I still loved me my Ormandy and Shaw. I eventually acquired the Stokowski on CD which was much more listenable and revealing than the copy I'd had on vinyl, so it, too, happily joined the ranks.

And then... and then... this was just a year or two ago — I forget where I was reading about it, but I came across someone raving about the Jochum recording. Whatever they said made me think it was the right time to give it a listen after so many decades, and:  Wow! I thought it was excellent, and couldn't for the life of me reconstruct why I'd rejected it or found it dull or lacking back in the day. I do love it when something comes back around like that.
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Post by: ChasSmith on May 09, 2019, 05:51:45 AM
My, that was long-winded.

It just happens that both Ormandy and Jochum recorded Orff's "Catulli Carmina" to ride that wave. I have no idea how generally popular (or not) that piece came to be, but though I value those recordings (they're probably the equal in excellence of each one's "CB"), it is simply not as lovable (at least for me) as "Carmina Burana". And I'm afraid I haven't ventured into Orff's other waters even though I've intended to for years.
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Post by: Laura on May 09, 2019, 05:57:34 AM
Good morning.
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Post by: Laura on May 09, 2019, 05:57:54 AM
TOD:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIwrgAnx6Q8
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Post by: ChasSmith on May 09, 2019, 05:58:38 AM
HUGE CONGRATULATIONS on your condo victory, DR TCB.

I've never heard of either real estate agent contributing ANYTHING toward closing costs or any other costs.
Vixmom, is this a "thing" anywhere?

I was right, though -- that seller got pushback from the appraisal, and from TCB's unwillingness to bend, and BLINKED. And in a good way. What a wonderful outcome.
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: ChasSmith on May 09, 2019, 06:00:51 AM
That's an excellent one, DR Laura.
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Post by: Laura on May 09, 2019, 06:07:53 AM
Wow, TCB. That's quite a deal you got on the closing. I never heard of the agents kicking in on closing costs. *fistbump*
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Post by: Laura on May 09, 2019, 06:08:07 AM
And congratulations on your new home!
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Post by: ChasSmith on May 09, 2019, 06:18:22 AM
DR George said:
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I'm burning a Blu-ray disc!  Larry came over and showed me the steps to record from my DVR to my Windows XP computer.  Specifically, the process only works on Windows XP computers from older model DVRs (where you can record only two programs at once) using a firewire cable.  He found that once you upgrade to Comcast's new Xfinity (four recordings at once), it's not posdible to do this.  I'm SO glad that both my DVRs are the older model, and that these actually still work with Comcast's upgraded lines. :D

Congrats on getting this learned in one session. When I first tried it (with DVDs - I don't yet have a Blu-ray burner), the first couple of attempts went fine and then my laptop started misbehaving and refused to capture more than a few minutes without freezing up and skipping frames or whatever it was actually doing. So I had to give up for a while. I've subsequently acquired the MacBook Pro, and the company whose software I was using has now made it available for the Mac, so I'm hopeful that this far superior machine will be the answer.

And yes, the older DVRs are golden! I've had to resist Xfinity's efforts to get me to "upgrade" tooth and nail in order to keep the old box with its (in my case) component connections. I told Comcast that "my early plasma TV" doesn't have HDMI, so I ain't going for it, and so far, they've bought that. The deal is that HDMI has copy protection built into its specs, so if something isn't allowed to be copied, it simply won't transfer over HDMI from the DVR. It's all part of their evil plan. But that protection doesn't exist on the component or firewire outputs (either of which carries HD just fine, thankyouverymuch).
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: elmore3003 on May 09, 2019, 06:20:44 AM
Good morning, all!
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Post by: elmore3003 on May 09, 2019, 06:23:52 AM
This is the first morning I've left my bed with no headache, toochache, eyeball ache, or runny nose.  When the alarm rang at 8:00, I lay on my bed, feeling quite lazy, and dozed for nearly an hour, enjoying the breeze, with Annabelle lying next to me and Thatch leaping about and burrowing under the blankets.
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Post by: elmore3003 on May 09, 2019, 06:24:22 AM
DR TCB, I am so happy for you!
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Post by: ChasSmith on May 09, 2019, 06:25:47 AM
Congratulations on your decent morning, DR Elmore.
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Post by: ChasSmith on May 09, 2019, 06:26:14 AM
When are you next out of Facebook jail? I can't keep track. :D
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Post by: elmore3003 on May 09, 2019, 06:30:19 AM
So many great choral pieces!
Poulenc's Gloria
Verdi's Requiem
Brahms' German Requiem and Alto Rhapspody
Britten's War Requiem
Handel's Messiah
I think I prefer Bach Cantatas and Christmas Oratorio to the Mass in B-Minor or St John Passion
Dvorak's Mass in D
Rachmaninoff's Vespers
Bernstein's Chichester Psalms
Anything by Mozart
Haydn's Creation
John Rutter's Requiem and Magnificat
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Post by: elmore3003 on May 09, 2019, 06:30:51 AM
When are you next out of Facebook jail? I can't keep track. :D

I think it's about 10 more days.
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Post by: elmore3003 on May 09, 2019, 06:33:39 AM
DR Laura, I loved Gopher Tuna!
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Post by: elmore3003 on May 09, 2019, 06:39:37 AM
BK, you know there are two companion pieces to Orff's Carmina BuranaCatulli Carmina and Trionfi di Afrodite!
https://smile.amazon.com/s?k=carl+orff+trionfi&i=popular&crid=32WLEGCDLXMXS&sprefix=carl+orff+trion%2Cpopular%2C125&ref=nb_sb_ss_i_1_15

I have the Jochum set.
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Post by: Laura on May 09, 2019, 06:39:49 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQEfxhvAy0c
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Post by: ChasSmith on May 09, 2019, 06:41:48 AM
I forgot about the TOD!

DR Elmore knows so many more of these than I do, and that looks like a great list.

I do love that Poulenc, and for anyone who likes Stravinsky, I'd add Symphony of Psalms.
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Post by: elmore3003 on May 09, 2019, 06:54:36 AM
And my last thoughts on Carmina Burana.  It was written to be staged and I wish there were more staged/choreographed productions on film.  I do like Jean Pierre Ponnelle's staging very much.
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: Jane on May 09, 2019, 07:14:10 AM
This is the first morning I've left my bed with no headache, toochache, eyeball ache, or runny nose.  When the alarm rang at 8:00, I lay on my bed, feeling quite lazy, and dozed for nearly an hour, enjoying the breeze, with Annabelle lying next to me and Thatch leaping about and burrowing under the blankets.

Wonderful.
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Post by: Jane on May 09, 2019, 07:19:35 AM
I have heard of agents making up the difference between what the buyer will pay & what the seller will accept.  Sharing the cost of the closing costs amounts to the same thing and I wondered if they would chip in.  I didn't expect the seller to pay half after reducing the price.
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Post by: Jane on May 09, 2019, 07:19:51 AM
Again Tom, congratulations.
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Post by: Jrand73 on May 09, 2019, 07:35:27 AM
Congrats to DR TCB!
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Post by: Jrand73 on May 09, 2019, 07:35:48 AM
Ending the doom vibes for MR BK.
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Post by: Jrand73 on May 09, 2019, 07:36:36 AM
Mostly I download things and burn them on my computer.....I think I have a DVR - but I don't use it.....

I will go with DR ELMORE's list for the TOD.
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Post by: Jrand73 on May 09, 2019, 07:36:54 AM
Glad to hear DR ELMORE is doing better today.
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Post by: Jrand73 on May 09, 2019, 07:37:27 AM
Page Three.

I am simmering my chicken breasts.....

I enjoyed DR LAURA's links very much......
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Post by: Jrand73 on May 09, 2019, 07:37:52 AM
Most entertaining and educating posts today.....and it's early!
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Post by: Ginny on May 09, 2019, 07:50:52 AM
Thursday morning greetings!  The Michigan Men's Glee Club gave a glorious concert last night and I quite enjoyed singing The Victors in a friendly crowd - Go, Blue!
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Post by: Ginny on May 09, 2019, 07:51:25 AM
Congratulations to DR TCB on the successful real estate outcome!
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Post by: Ginny on May 09, 2019, 07:52:26 AM
...
I will go with DR ELMORE's list for the TOD.

I will, too, and add Mendelssohn's ELIJAH.
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Post by: Ginny on May 09, 2019, 08:06:45 AM
This is the first morning I've left my bed with no headache, toochache, eyeball ache, or runny nose.  When the alarm rang at 8:00, I lay on my bed, feeling quite lazy, and dozed for nearly an hour, enjoying the breeze, with Annabelle lying next to me and Thatch leaping about and burrowing under the blankets.

Great news, DR Elmore!
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Post by: KevinH on May 09, 2019, 08:44:13 AM
Good morning!
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Post by: KevinH on May 09, 2019, 08:44:24 AM
Dental vibes for DR jan!
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Post by: KevinH on May 09, 2019, 08:44:37 AM
Congrats, TCB!  I'm so happy for you!
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Post by: KevinH on May 09, 2019, 08:45:07 AM
DR JohnG-- I thought about seeing High Button Shoes too.   Is anyone going?
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Post by: Jane on May 09, 2019, 09:05:24 AM
Ending the doom vibes for MR BK.

DITTO!
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Post by: George on May 09, 2019, 10:56:53 AM
TOD:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIwrgAnx6Q8

That will never not be funny! :))
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Post by: Druxy on May 09, 2019, 11:22:15 AM
So, continuing from yesterday, here's a clip of Jerry Lanning and Phil Silvers from the TV production of DAMN YANKEES!

In FOSSE/VERNON, Lanning is the real life counterpart OF "Doug," Vernon's boy friend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A0DEFUPrKc

Thanks, JRand68
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Post by: John G. on May 09, 2019, 11:24:38 AM
TOD:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIwrgAnx6Q8

That will never not be funny! :))

Very funny.
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Post by: John G. on May 09, 2019, 11:30:06 AM
TOD:

Beethoven’s ninth
Mahler’s Second
Verdi Requiem
Ravel’s Daphnis et Chloe

In addition to the others.
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Post by: Jrand73 on May 09, 2019, 11:36:30 AM
Nice clip DR DRUXY....
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Post by: George on May 09, 2019, 11:57:46 AM
This is the first morning I've left my bed with no headache, toochache, eyeball ache, or runny nose.  When the alarm rang at 8:00, I lay on my bed, feeling quite lazy, and dozed for nearly an hour, enjoying the breeze, with Annabelle lying next to me and Thatch leaping about and burrowing under the blankets.

Very nice, Larry!
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Post by: George on May 09, 2019, 12:22:56 PM
My favorite Carmina Burana (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0015S70X6/) is the recording with June Anderson.  When I was going to Western Washington University, we performed the piece with all the choirs and the orchestra of the university, and several choruses from Bellingham, Washington (where Western is).  It was huge and wonderful!  The soprano was Heidi Lynn Grant, who went on to win the Met Auditions, then married her accompanist and became known as Heidi Grant Murphy.  She was incredible!  Anyway, here's the cover of June Anderson's version:

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/91H2J-WV14L._SS500_.jpg)
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Post by: George on May 09, 2019, 12:26:55 PM
One thing that we did that the recording with June Anderson did is that we used the German pronunciations of Latin.  So, things like "semper crescis" was pronounced "semper crestsees" instead of the regular "semper creschees."
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Post by: bk on May 09, 2019, 12:33:51 PM
I'm up, I'm up - nine and a half hours of needed sleep.  Hoo and ray.
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Post by: bk on May 09, 2019, 12:34:54 PM
Must try some of these choral pieces - the Poulenc is coming and I must have the Ormandy Carmina here in the Ormandy box so I'll pull that out and give it a listen, and I'll try the two sequels, too.
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Post by: ChasSmith on May 09, 2019, 12:46:37 PM
http://www.playbill.com/article/into-the-woods-translated-into-american-sign-language-for-indiana-staging?fbclid=IwAR0kxbwMsamWkwzTAPfFL1qkiGwxeh7KxX-vWiJI-5kQET88XVvgtNTLQyQ

Fascinated with this. Wish I could see it.
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Post by: ChasSmith on May 09, 2019, 12:56:45 PM
I see Jochum recorded all three, Ormandy just the first two.
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Post by: KevinH on May 09, 2019, 01:17:44 PM
Speaking of Fosse/Verdon, I was surprised that everyone seemed to call the playwright Mr. Simon "Neil."  I had understood that his friends called him "Doc."
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Post by: Jeanne on May 09, 2019, 01:29:43 PM
Hello, everyone.
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Post by: Jeanne on May 09, 2019, 01:30:04 PM
Good news from DR Elmore today. Glad to hear you're feeling better!
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Post by: Jeanne on May 09, 2019, 01:30:59 PM
A big CONGRATS to TCB!!

I'm very pleased you won and hope you will be very comfortable there!
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Post by: Jeanne on May 09, 2019, 01:33:08 PM
Like Jane, I've heard of agents chipping in to make a deal fly. I was surprised in this case because there had been multiple offers and it sounds like a very desirable property. It's more likely in a distressed situation, where any deal is better than no deal for the agents.
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Post by: Jeanne on May 09, 2019, 01:37:28 PM
I have to say that I've seen real estate agents who have not done right by their clients, either through laziness or incompetence and really didn't deserve the full amount of their commission. I had to fire the agent who was selling my dad's house, as she was very lazy and then pressured me to take ridiculously low offers. And, yes, you can fire them, even though you have a contract.
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Post by: Jeanne on May 09, 2019, 01:42:04 PM
Then there was the escrow agent in Texas who sent out checks to the sellers for an incorrect amount. She, at least, realized her error and corrected it, once it was pointed out to her. Instead of READING the contract she just ASSUMED a certain split. She didn't seem embarrassed in the least. We didn't have to fire her, but we certainly couldn't recommend her.

How do these people keep their jobs??
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Post by: Jeanne on May 09, 2019, 01:43:59 PM
Then there was the agent who was living in the house she was supposed to be selling...
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Post by: bk on May 09, 2019, 01:44:51 PM
Speaking of Fosse/Verdon, I was surprised that everyone seemed to call the playwright Mr. Simon "Neil."  I had understood that his friends called him "Doc."

Of course.  But the "writers" of this don't care about truth or reality.  They're writing their own story and everyone seems to be fine with it because it's - dramatic license.  Like Fosse didn't have enough REAL drama in his life.  The writers even admitted that this current episode is all fiction.  It's lazy, soap opera, hit 'em over the head writing and it certainly didn't have to be.  And to waste an entire hour-long episode on yakking in one location because the writer thought it was an homage to Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf???  I say to the "dramatic license" people - so you'd be fine if someone made a film about your life and just made up whatever they wanted so there'd be some "drama"?  Like, they could say you were a pathetic creative person who couldn't make a single decision without help from your wife/ex-wife?  Or they could say you did things that were disgusting that you never, in fact, did?  Because - dramatic license?  Sorry, does not compute for me.
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Post by: Jeanne on May 09, 2019, 01:45:37 PM
In fairness, I have met some excellent agents, also, but it's very difficult to know which it'll be.
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Post by: Jeanne on May 09, 2019, 01:51:20 PM
I've found TCB's case to be an interesting one. We don't know, of course, whether the low appraisal was a fluke or whether it was representative of the market. It certainly helped TCB in the end.
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Post by: Jeanne on May 09, 2019, 01:52:00 PM
TTFN.
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Post by: Jrand73 on May 09, 2019, 02:10:52 PM
I hope the tv show about my life has an episode about the summer I spent in California and starred in my own film adaptation of ANNIE....which never happened of course....but it will make a great episode.
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Post by: Jrand73 on May 09, 2019, 02:11:33 PM
I shall be on my way in a tick for the first read thru of SEND ME NO FLOWERS.....

I excited.....excited and scared.
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Post by: Jrand73 on May 09, 2019, 02:13:27 PM
DR CHAS SMITH that is interesting.....I can do Signed English.....American Sign Language is a language of its own that has its own syntax....and relies heavily on facial expressions and body position.....I can't do that.

And many members of the Deaf Community no longer recognize SE interpreters as proper to use in many areas.....

Which is sad.....but there you are....
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Post by: Jrand73 on May 09, 2019, 02:13:53 PM
So Signed English is going the way of the DoDo Bird......in a manner of speaking.
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Post by: George on May 09, 2019, 02:33:05 PM
Gratuitous Post #100!
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Post by: George on May 09, 2019, 02:33:13 PM
And my last thoughts on Carmina Burana.  It was written to be staged and I wish there were more staged/choreographed productions on film.  I do like Jean Pierre Ponnelle's staging very much.

I've never seen a staged version.
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Post by: Laura on May 09, 2019, 02:57:20 PM
So Signed English is going the way of the DoDo Bird......in a manner of speaking.

And Gregg shorthand -- the only thing I ever excelled at.
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Post by: Jane on May 09, 2019, 03:46:07 PM
Then there was the escrow agent in Texas who sent out checks to the sellers for an incorrect amount. She, at least, realized her error and corrected it, once it was pointed out to her. Instead of READING the contract she just ASSUMED a certain split. She didn't seem embarrassed in the least. We didn't have to fire her, but we certainly couldn't recommend her.

How do these people keep their jobs??

There are too many bad agents out there.  Thankfully there are also very good ones.
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Post by: Jane on May 09, 2019, 03:46:50 PM
Then there was the agent who was living in the house she was supposed to be selling...

 :o
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Post by: Jane on May 09, 2019, 03:51:44 PM
I hope DR Jan is home by now and that all went well.  I thought of her while I was at the dentist having my cleaning appointment which this visit included x-rays.  The dentist said I need two teeth filled.  I don't do well with the needles used to inject me for numbing.  It could be worse, I could be Keith needing a crown.  We both could be worse and needing a difficult extraction.

Healing Vibes for DR Jan!
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: elmore3003 on May 09, 2019, 04:02:24 PM
Good news from DR Elmore today. Glad to hear you're feeling better!

I wish my leg issues were healing as quickly!
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: John G. on May 09, 2019, 04:09:34 PM
So Signed English is going the way of the DoDo Bird......in a manner of speaking.

And Gregg shorthand -- the only thing I ever excelled at.

You excel at photography and baking and a cute grandbaby.
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: Druxy on May 09, 2019, 04:10:20 PM
Speaking of Fosse/Verdon, I was surprised that everyone seemed to call the playwright Mr. Simon "Neil."  I had understood that his friends called him "Doc."

Of course.  But the "writers" of this don't care about truth or reality.  They're writing their own story and everyone seems to be fine with it because it's - dramatic license.  Like Fosse didn't have enough REAL drama in his life.  The writers even admitted that this current episode is all fiction.  It's lazy, soap opera, hit 'em over the head writing and it certainly didn't have to be.  And to waste an entire hour-long episode on yakking in one location because the writer thought it was an homage to Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf???  I say to the "dramatic license" people - so you'd be fine if someone made a film about your life and just made up whatever they wanted so there'd be some "drama"?  Like, they could say you were a pathetic creative person who couldn't make a single decision without help from your wife/ex-wife?  Or they could say you did things that were disgusting that you never, in fact, did?  Because - dramatic license?  Sorry, does not compute for me.

BK,

I certainly don't want to get into a heated debate with you on this subject, but:

How can you write a play or screenplay about real people and/or events without taking some "dramatic license"?



Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: jan on May 09, 2019, 04:49:02 PM
Back from the oral surgeon.  Hour and a half while he dug through my jaw, down through my neck and into my shoulder.  Bone graft in, membrane in place and 7 stitches.  Then I got to pay $1000 for the pleasure.  Went to the pharmacy for pain pills and antibiotics.  Got the pain pills (thank God) but doc forgot to include the antibiotic prescription.  Leaving CVS, a woman backed into my car fortunately no damage.  So stressed out my hands are shaking.  Called doc about prescription, they called it in but I'm not going back out today.  One good thing, I was told to eat cool, soft food so she said I should eat ice cream.  I agree.  In a lot of pain, so I took a pain pill and I'm gonna lie down for a nap.  Back later.
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: George on May 09, 2019, 05:09:50 PM
Back from the oral surgeon.  Hour and a half while he dug through my jaw, down through my neck and into my shoulder.  Bone graft in, membrane in place and 7 stitches.  Then I got to pay $1000 for the pleasure.  Went to the pharmacy for pain pills and antibiotics.  Got the pain pills (thank God) but doc forgot to include the antibiotic prescription.  Leaving CVS, a woman backed into my car fortunately no damage.  So stressed out my hands are shaking.  Called doc about prescription, they called it in but I'm not going back out today.  One good thing, I was told to eat cool, soft food so she said I should eat ice cream.  I agree.  In a lot of pain, so I took a pain pill and I'm gonna lie down for a nap.  Back later.

What an adventure...and not in the good way. :-\

~~~Quick Recovery Vibes for jan!!~~~
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: bk on May 09, 2019, 06:00:33 PM
Speaking of Fosse/Verdon, I was surprised that everyone seemed to call the playwright Mr. Simon "Neil."  I had understood that his friends called him "Doc."

Of course.  But the "writers" of this don't care about truth or reality.  They're writing their own story and everyone seems to be fine with it because it's - dramatic license.  Like Fosse didn't have enough REAL drama in his life.  The writers even admitted that this current episode is all fiction.  It's lazy, soap opera, hit 'em over the head writing and it certainly didn't have to be.  And to waste an entire hour-long episode on yakking in one location because the writer thought it was an homage to Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf???  I say to the "dramatic license" people - so you'd be fine if someone made a film about your life and just made up whatever they wanted so there'd be some "drama"?  Like, they could say you were a pathetic creative person who couldn't make a single decision without help from your wife/ex-wife?  Or they could say you did things that were disgusting that you never, in fact, did?  Because - dramatic license?  Sorry, does not compute for me.

BK,

I certainly don't want to get into a heated debate with you on this subject, but:

How can you write a play or screenplay about real people and/or events without taking some "dramatic license"?





I'm not talking about a historical drama here, I'm talking about Fosse/Verdon.  Here's a clew: If there's not enough drama for a show based on two specific people, don't make it into a movie.  Don't LIE about events, don't make up crap because it suits you, the writer, when it's to the detriment of the real person you're writing about.  I don't know what's difficult about this simple construct.  Bob Fosse, while having many problems in his life, was a hugely talented, creative person who did not need his wife/ex-wife to hold his hand and help him with every creative decision - they present Fosse as if he could not function creatively without Gwen Verdon stepping in to save the day.  Well, that's BS and it is offensive.  Mr. Fosse isn't here to defend himself.  He also had a good deal of charm, a sparkle in his eye, a sense of humor - have you been seeing that in this show?  No, you have not. 

And dramatic license does not involve sloppy writing and zero research, so that you cannot even get the tiniest, easy to find details right - shopping bags did not have handles in 1972, the film of Sweet Charity did not play the Ziegfeld Theater in New York, Starbucks was not around in 1972, hence you can't have a Starbucks cup in a rehearsal room, and on and on and on.  That's not dramatic license, that's stupidity and laziness.

But anytime a writer has to actually make something up that is factually completely incorrect, dramatic license or not, it's just wrong.  If I were were filming Druxy, would it be okay for me as the writer to say you came from Serbia as an infant, and that your parents were both gay because I like that story and it's interesting?  Is it okay for me as the writer to say that Druxy's life was entirely controlled by others, that he couldn't make a creative decision without others giving him the ideas or help... Well, you get the idea.  Tell me if that's all okay and I'll start writing it right now.
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: bk on May 09, 2019, 06:05:00 PM
Meanwhile, there's a guy on Facebook who's a fan of mine and who's enjoyed my books.  He finally got around to GEE a few weeks ago, and just posted this review, which I thought was lovely:

5.0 out of 5 stars

A journey through time---and an inspiration.
May 9, 2019
Format: Kindle EditionVerified Purchase

I just finished Bruce Kimmel’s extraordinary novel GEE, and what an emotional ride it was! Will be careful not to give too much away here….Divided into two distinct sections, it is the story of two women who find a very special connection. Although separated in time, these two people somehow reach across the years and speak with each other, learn from each other and inspire each other. The book is, on one hand, a wistful tribute to the glorious pleasures of another era, and a delightful journey of discovery for a person who comes to realize that we all can benefit from looking back. In this society which seems hell-bent on eschewing the treasures of art and entertainment if they show even the slightest patina of age, it’s both moving and exciting to read a book that relishes the achievements of such great artists as Mary Pickford, Glenn Miller and Harry Warren. As often happens with Kimmel books, I found myself tearing up, and totally identifying with the characters. It is a book of truth and wisdom, and I’m grateful to Bruce for telling this story. Brilliant!
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: Jane on May 09, 2019, 06:40:12 PM
So Signed English is going the way of the DoDo Bird......in a manner of speaking.

And Gregg shorthand -- the only thing I ever excelled at.

You excel at photography and baking and a cute grandbaby.

And mentoring a wonderful young lady.
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: Jane on May 09, 2019, 06:45:31 PM
Speaking of Fosse/Verdon, I was surprised that everyone seemed to call the playwright Mr. Simon "Neil."  I had understood that his friends called him "Doc."

Of course.  But the "writers" of this don't care about truth or reality.  They're writing their own story and everyone seems to be fine with it because it's - dramatic license.  Like Fosse didn't have enough REAL drama in his life.  The writers even admitted that this current episode is all fiction.  It's lazy, soap opera, hit 'em over the head writing and it certainly didn't have to be.  And to waste an entire hour-long episode on yakking in one location because the writer thought it was an homage to Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf???  I say to the "dramatic license" people - so you'd be fine if someone made a film about your life and just made up whatever they wanted so there'd be some "drama"?  Like, they could say you were a pathetic creative person who couldn't make a single decision without help from your wife/ex-wife?  Or they could say you did things that were disgusting that you never, in fact, did?  Because - dramatic license?  Sorry, does not compute for me.

BK,

I certainly don't want to get into a heated debate with you on this subject, but:

How can you write a play or screenplay about real people and/or events without taking some "dramatic license"?


I think there is a difference between some dramatic license and basically writing fiction. 
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: Druxy on May 09, 2019, 06:49:43 PM
Speaking of Fosse/Verdon, I was surprised that everyone seemed to call the playwright Mr. Simon "Neil."  I had understood that his friends called him "Doc."

Of course.  But the "writers" of this don't care about truth or reality.  They're writing their own story and everyone seems to be fine with it because it's - dramatic license.  Like Fosse didn't have enough REAL drama in his life.  The writers even admitted that this current episode is all fiction.  It's lazy, soap opera, hit 'em over the head writing and it certainly didn't have to be.  And to waste an entire hour-long episode on yakking in one location because the writer thought it was an homage to Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf???  I say to the "dramatic license" people - so you'd be fine if someone made a film about your life and just made up whatever they wanted so there'd be some "drama"?  Like, they could say you were a pathetic creative person who couldn't make a single decision without help from your wife/ex-wife?  Or they could say you did things that were disgusting that you never, in fact, did?  Because - dramatic license?  Sorry, does not compute for me.

BK,

I certainly don't want to get into a heated debate with you on this subject, but:

How can you write a play or screenplay about real people and/or events without taking some "dramatic license"?





I'm not talking about a historical drama here, I'm talking about Fosse/Verdon.  Here's a clew: If there's not enough drama for a show based on two specific people, don't make it into a movie.  Don't LIE about events, don't make up crap because it suits you, the writer, when it's to the detriment of the real person you're writing about.  I don't know what's difficult about this simple construct.  Bob Fosse, while having many problems in his life, was a hugely talented, creative person who did not need his wife/ex-wife to hold his hand and help him with every creative decision - they present Fosse as if he could not function creatively without Gwen Verdon stepping in to save the day.  Well, that's BS and it is offensive.  Mr. Fosse isn't here to defend himself.  He also had a good deal of charm, a sparkle in his eye, a sense of humor - have you been seeing that in this show?  No, you have not. 

And dramatic license does not involve sloppy writing and zero research, so that you cannot even get the tiniest, easy to find details right - shopping bags did not have handles in 1972, the film of Sweet Charity did not play the Ziegfeld Theater in New York, Starbucks was not around in 1972, hence you can't have a Starbucks cup in a rehearsal room, and on and on and on.  That's not dramatic license, that's stupidity and laziness.

But anytime a writer has to actually make something up that is factually completely incorrect, dramatic license or not, it's just wrong.  If I were were filming Druxy, would it be okay for me as the writer to say you came from Serbia as an infant, and that your parents were both gay because I like that story and it's interesting?  Is it okay for me as the writer to say that Druxy's life was entirely controlled by others, that he couldn't make a creative decision without others giving him the ideas or help... Well, you get the idea.  Tell me if that's all okay and I'll start writing it right now.

1. I don't know enough about either Fosse's or Vernon's private lives to know exactly what is fact and what is dramatic license.  But, I stand by my original point.  You can't dramatize a true story without taking some liberties with the facts.

2. Yes, a lot of the production may be "sloppy" (e.g. Starbucks, where SWEET CHARITY played, etc.), but your average person, like myself, does not pick up on that kind of minute detail. 

3. I would be happy to license you the rights to my life story.  Shall we negotiate a price? :D
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: Jane on May 09, 2019, 07:04:07 PM
DR Jan thank you for taking the time to let us know how you are doing.  Yes, lots of ice cream. 
I am glad you made it home safely.  Vibes you feel better tomorrow and can get your antibiotics.

NO INFECTION VIBES AND FAST HEALING VIBES!
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: Jane on May 09, 2019, 07:04:56 PM
Fantastic review!
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: vixmom on May 09, 2019, 07:20:50 PM
I hope the tv show about my life has an episode about the summer I spent in California and starred in my own film adaptation of ANNIE....which never happened of course....but it will make a great episode.

That's the one where I played Miss Hannigan as I recall.  I believe I received rave reviews for both my singing and dancing
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: vixmom on May 09, 2019, 07:22:15 PM
So Signed English is going the way of the DoDo Bird......in a manner of speaking.

And Gregg shorthand -- the only thing I ever excelled at.

You excel at photography and baking and a cute grandbaby.

Yes!!
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: vixmom on May 09, 2019, 07:24:06 PM
So Signed English is going the way of the DoDo Bird......in a manner of speaking.

And Gregg shorthand -- the only thing I ever excelled at.

You excel at photography and baking and a cute grandbaby.

And mentoring a wonderful young lady.

I concur
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: vixmom on May 09, 2019, 07:27:06 PM
Mucho congratulations to TCB .  I have very rarely heard of agents kicking in for closing costs, maybe 3 times in the almost 30 years in the business..well done Sir!!
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: George on May 09, 2019, 07:34:40 PM
Well, it's time for me to go home, so I will.

Be back later.
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: vixmom on May 09, 2019, 07:35:48 PM
Vibes for Elmore, may your leg and your bank account both see some rapid improvement
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: vixmom on May 09, 2019, 07:39:04 PM
In 1912, Minnesota grocer Walter H. Deubner created the first paper tote bag. He noticed that his customers’ purchases were limited by what they could conveniently carry, so he decided to reinforce a paper bag with cord and handles. The Deubner bags were sold for 5 cents each, the same price most “wholesale outlets” charge these days. Deubner patented his product and within three years, by 1915, was selling over a million of shopping bags a year.

http://www.swedbrand-group.com/blog/brief-history-shopping-bag
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: John G. on May 09, 2019, 07:56:01 PM
It's back to Lisbon. This is one quirky movie.
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: John G. on May 09, 2019, 07:56:30 PM
I stayed up way too late last night finishing off my book. I need to get some sleep tonight.
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: bk on May 09, 2019, 08:27:10 PM
Clearly, Druxy, you know absolutely zero about Fosse and Ms. Verdon - NOT Vernon.  Gwen Vernon was a fish peddler from Minsk.
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: Jane on May 09, 2019, 08:53:38 PM
Vibes for Elmore, may your leg and your bank account both see some rapid improvement

DITTO
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: Jane on May 09, 2019, 08:54:24 PM
In 1912, Minnesota grocer Walter H. Deubner created the first paper tote bag. He noticed that his customers’ purchases were limited by what they could conveniently carry, so he decided to reinforce a paper bag with cord and handles. The Deubner bags were sold for 5 cents each, the same price most “wholesale outlets” charge these days. Deubner patented his product and within three years, by 1915, was selling over a million of shopping bags a year.

http://www.swedbrand-group.com/blog/brief-history-shopping-bag

This is interesting.
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: bk on May 09, 2019, 09:59:48 PM
I was looking for a snack - I had one thing in the house - Campbell's chunky spicy chicken quesadilla soup.  So, I heated it up.  I took one spoonful, got the taste of it and spit it out.  I tried a second spoonful - spit it out.  Why?  Because this soup tastes like vomit.  Like really bad vomit.  I'm not kidding here - it literally tastes like vomit.  It made me want to vomit on the ground but then I would have had two helpings of vomit.  I threw it away, needless to say.
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: Jane on May 09, 2019, 10:10:21 PM
Wow, only one thing in the house.  Does that include drinks?
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: bk on May 09, 2019, 10:27:29 PM
No, I have drinks, although I'm running low.  I have circus peanuts and Milk Duds, too. 
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: Jane on May 09, 2019, 10:37:10 PM
Peanuts sre a good snack though after that description I think toothpast is better ;)
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: bk on May 09, 2019, 10:47:33 PM
No, Circus Peanuts - you know, those orange candy peanut-shaped marshmallow-ish thing.
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: bk on May 09, 2019, 10:50:22 PM
Since ChasSmith raved about the Ormandy Carmina Burana, I found my Ormandy box set and put it in iTunes - it's next up in the playlist - first I also uploaded a CD with an Alban Berg Lulu Suite, which is quite enjoyable (now playing), Webern's Im Sommerwind, and Hindemith's Mathis de Maler - and one for Maler.  Then comes the Orff.
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: George on May 09, 2019, 11:09:57 PM
When I was in the Western Washington University Concert Choir, we performed the Duruflé Requiem (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XRzPi0CA1rg).  It was one of my favorite pieces that we did.
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: jan on May 09, 2019, 11:16:23 PM
Hi, George, how's it going with you and Neve?
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: TCB on May 09, 2019, 11:17:50 PM
Good evening.
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: TCB on May 09, 2019, 11:19:26 PM
Best wishes and recovery vibes for our DR jan!!
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: George on May 09, 2019, 11:19:49 PM
I just watched 2010.
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: jan on May 09, 2019, 11:20:11 PM
Hi, Tom.  You all packed up and ready to move?
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: George on May 09, 2019, 11:20:39 PM
It was...interesting.  I didn't realize that Candice Bergen was the voice of SAL 9000.
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: TCB on May 09, 2019, 11:22:24 PM
Here is a headline from one of our local news program:


Opioid Overdose Is a Leading Case Of Death!
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: TCB on May 09, 2019, 11:22:50 PM
Wow!  What a shocker.
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: George on May 09, 2019, 11:22:57 PM
Hi, George, how's it going with you and Neve?

Hi, jan.  We're doing well.  I'm watching TV and Neve is probably out back.  I leave the back door open until it gets too late...which it is now. ;)
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: jan on May 09, 2019, 11:25:36 PM
Make sure she gets her Auntie Jan cuddles.
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: Jane on May 09, 2019, 11:26:01 PM
No, Circus Peanuts - you know, those orange candy peanut-shaped marshmallow-ish thing.

Not something I would eat.  I was thinking peanuts in a shell.
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: Jane on May 09, 2019, 11:27:44 PM
The candy is shaped like fresh peanuts in a shell.
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: TCB on May 09, 2019, 11:28:17 PM
I just wanted to say a big thank you to all of you for your continued good wishes about my new condo.  I apologize for being horribly self-consumed I have been about this whole mixed up process.  You are all wonderful and I am grateful for your friendship.
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: Jane on May 09, 2019, 11:28:29 PM
Wow!  What a shocker.

;D
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: Jane on May 09, 2019, 11:29:04 PM
Wow!  What a shocker.

You were being sarcastic, right?
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: TCB on May 09, 2019, 11:29:34 PM
Wow!  What a shocker.

You were being sarcastic, right?


Yes.
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: jan on May 09, 2019, 11:29:54 PM
I was addicted to circus peanuts as a kid but now, I think, one and done.  Too sweet.
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: Jane on May 09, 2019, 11:30:31 PM
I just wanted to say a big thank you to all of you for your continued good wishes about my new condo.  I apologize for being horribly self-consumed I have been about this whole mixed up process.  You are all wonderful and I am grateful for your friendship.

Completely understandable, not that it felt as if you were horribly self-consumed.
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: Jane on May 09, 2019, 11:30:53 PM
Hi Jan.  How are you feeling?
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: George on May 09, 2019, 11:31:36 PM
Make sure she gets her Auntie Jan cuddles.

You got it!
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: jan on May 09, 2019, 11:35:38 PM
Hey, Lady Jane.  Feeling better than when I got home.  I slept for about an hour and a half, had a root beer float for dinner, and the pain isn't as bad.  Still hurts but the nerves aren't on fire.
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: Jane on May 09, 2019, 11:37:38 PM
I am very relieved for you.  If you can tolerate the pain meds don't stop taking them yet.
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: George on May 09, 2019, 11:38:26 PM
I just wanted to say a big thank you to all of you for your continued good wishes about my new condo.  I apologize for being horribly self-consumed I have been about this whole mixed up process.  You are all wonderful and I am grateful for your friendship.

Completely understandable, not that it felt as if you were horribly self-consumed.

Ditto and ditto!
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: Jane on May 09, 2019, 11:39:31 PM
I unfortunately can get very nauseated from pain meds and throw up.
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: George on May 09, 2019, 11:40:34 PM
I unfortunately can get very nauseated from pain meds and throw up.

Oh, no!
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: Jane on May 09, 2019, 11:41:00 PM
Wow!  What a shocker.

You were being sarcastic, right?


Yes.

Just confirming my laugh was appropriate 😊
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: jan on May 09, 2019, 11:43:32 PM
I got tylenol with codeine, so far, so good.
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: Jane on May 09, 2019, 11:49:42 PM
I unfortunately can get very nauseated from pain meds and throw up.

Oh, no!

Poor Craig learned he doesn't tolerate Vicodin when he had his wisdom teeth pulled.  He was in college at the time and was going to have them pulled in San Francisco.  I reminded him how he helped fetch for Bryan when Bryan had his teeth pulled and insisted Craig have the surgery in Ashland.  Unfortunately he did as "well" as Bryan did and then in addition got sick and threw up.
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: Jane on May 09, 2019, 11:50:29 PM
I got tylenol with codeine, so far, so good.

My drug of choice though I still need to have food with it.
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: Jane on May 09, 2019, 11:51:33 PM
DR Jan, Craig is my youngest and Bryan my oldest son.
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: jan on May 09, 2019, 11:54:44 PM
How old are they?
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: TCB on May 10, 2019, 12:00:37 AM
How old are they?


55 and 60
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: Jane on May 10, 2019, 12:00:37 AM
42 & 39  :o
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: Jane on May 10, 2019, 12:01:01 AM
Ha, ha TCB ;)
Title: Re: O FOR TUNA
Post by: TCB on May 10, 2019, 12:02:25 AM
Oh sorry, that is Jane and Keith’s ages.