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Title: GOING OFF ON A TANGENT IN A PICKLE
Post by: bk on April 08, 2005, 11:59:34 PM
Well, you've read the notes, you know all about the tangents and pickles, and now it is time for you to post until the pickled cows come home from their various and sundried tangents.
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Post by: Tomovoz on April 09, 2005, 12:12:14 AM
"Shane", "Cat Ballou" and "Butch Cassidy & The Sundance Kid".  A special mention to "Blazing Saddles". I remember "High Noon", and "Liberty Valence" more for the title songs. (Even if the Gene Pitney song was after the event!).  I also am quite fond of "The One-Eyed Jacks". Another "title" song written after the film - this time for Johnny Burnette.
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Post by: George on April 09, 2005, 12:16:11 AM
I've never been a fan of westerns.  I don't necessarily have anything against them, but I've just never been interested.  However, of the few that I have seen, "Blazing Saddles" and "Star Wars" are my favorite.  "Star Wars??" you ask?  "Yes, 'Star Wars'," I say.  It may be set a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, but I think it's just a (reimagined) old-fashioned western...with good guys and bad guys and a shoot out and all that. ;D And a wookie. ;)
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Post by: George on April 09, 2005, 12:17:18 AM
It's late and I want to sleep.  So, goodnight, all!
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Post by: Charles Pogue on April 09, 2005, 12:18:27 AM
Fav westerns:

The Searchers
Ramrod (a noir western)
Unforgiven
The Unforgiven
All the Boetticher/Scott Westerns (Ride Lonesome, Comanche Station, The Tall T...to name but three)
Tombstone
Pursued
Whispering Smith
Shane
Rio Bravo
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
Stagecoach
The Professionals
Gunfight at the OK Corral
Ride the High Country
Magnificent Seven
Support Your Local Sheriff
Will Penny
Blood on the Moon
The Big Country
Left-Handed Gun


Title: Re:GOING OFF ON A TANGENT IN A PICKLE
Post by: bk on April 09, 2005, 12:22:54 AM
And the word of the day is: AORTA!
Title: Re:GOING OFF ON A TANGENT IN A PICKLE
Post by: bk on April 09, 2005, 12:23:10 AM
Why AORTA knock your block off.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on April 09, 2005, 12:27:01 AM
A couple more I thought of...

Barbarosa
Invitation to a Gunfighter
The Long Riders

I can watch almost any western anytime and not get bored.  Though I find it interesting that Gary Cooper is one of my favourite actors, but not of his westerns are on my list, though I've seen most and am fond of all of them.
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Post by: Jrand74 on April 09, 2005, 12:37:08 AM
Saturday - it is Macarena day!

So sad to hear about BUS STOP being the way it was.  Hmmmmmm....

Westerns!  Well it is early in the day, and most of my favorites have been mentioned.  So I will just mention them AGAIN.

THE SEARCHERS - a fine story and a fine cast.  John Wayne, Jeffrey Hunter, Natalie Wood, Vera Miles.  And a good story, that'll be the day.

THE GUNFIGHTER - Gregory Peck and his last dying words to Richard Jaeckal....whew!

TRUE GRIT - love the Elmer Bernstein score

THEY DIED WITH THEIR BOOTS ON - Errol Flynn as Custer

RED RIVER - Wayne and Montgomery Clift

and I will only list one more:

RED GARTERS - a wild and wooly western musical!
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Post by: Jrand74 on April 09, 2005, 12:39:08 AM
I am like DRCP - thinking of one reminds me of others.

ONE EYED JACKS mentioned by DR TOMovOZ.

NO NAME ON THE BULLET with Audie Murphy.
Title: Re:GOING OFF ON A TANGENT IN A PICKLE
Post by: bk on April 09, 2005, 12:41:27 AM
Oh, I forgot all my favorite Anthony Mann westerns - they include, Winchester '73, The Man from Laramie, Man of the West (with Cooper), and the brilliant The Naked Spur.
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Post by: Ginny on April 09, 2005, 03:51:11 AM
Hello, Hisaka!  I wanted to tell you how much I enjoyed your pictures of the cherry blossoms yesterday.  The town where I live (Middletown, Ohio, USA) has many flowering trees.  Your photos reminded me that I need to take a drive through the university campus where I used to work.  It's always beautiful this time of year, as were your photos.
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Post by: Ginny on April 09, 2005, 03:52:42 AM
'morning, Elmore.  Are you getting ready to dispense books to the masses today, too?
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Post by: elmore3003 on April 09, 2005, 04:24:16 AM
Good morning, DRs Ginny and Hisaka!  Yes, Im dressed and ready for B&N.  Now, what's for breakfast?

DRPogue, I've been reading Denis Quilley's bio, skimming through it and reading about various productions.  The tone of the book is so much like the man I met:  charming, kind, generous, intelligent.  He mentions replacing Keith Michel in IRMA LA DOUCE, closing the Broadway prduction and touring Boston, the South, and other environs, and his comments on his US stay are quite lovely.  He also talks about touring Australia with June Bronhill and Frank Thring in ROBERT AND ELIZABETH.  I think you'd enjoy the book a lot.  I feel lucky to have seen him in the National Theatre's CANDIDE, Peter Hall's WAITING FOR GODOT and KING LEAR, and I loved him as the King in JUBILEE.

I've been skimming John Fraser's very frank autobio as well, but he never mentions my favorite film of his:  A STUDY IN TERROR with John Neville.

Yes, DRGeorge, I'd call STAR WARS a western, too, and THE SEARCHERS was a big influence on it.  I was never the Western fan my Father and brother were, but I've a few faves.  You should take a look at a few of the readers' favorites today.  They're quite wonderful.

TOD:
THE SEARCHERS
MCCLINTOCK
SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL SHERIFF
HIGH NOON
LAST TRAIN FROM GUN HILL
CAT BALLOU
THEY DIED WITH THEIR BOOTS ON
Title: Re:GOING OFF ON A TANGENT IN A PICKLE
Post by: Michael on April 09, 2005, 05:34:21 AM
Like to add to some already mentioned:

Support Your Local Gunfighter (sequal to Sherrif and just as much fun)
Duck You Sucker aka A Fistful of  Dynamite aka Once Upon a Time in Mexico (Sergio Leon film I hope that can be considered a western)
Valley of the Gwangi (Cowboys and Dinosaurs)
Johnny Guitar (a very strange 50's parable western)

Two Monte Hellman films:
Ride in the Whirlwind (with Jack Nicholson who also wrote it)
The Shooting (with many of the people from the above film)

and I think Leon's Once Upon a Time In America West and Ford's The Searchers are two of the best in the western genre.
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Post by: Danise on April 09, 2005, 05:46:37 AM
Good morning folks!

I know I said this before but I am very sorry to have been E &T this week.  And what a week it has been.  I’ve had to work a lot of OT at work and I have been so tired that by the time Wednesday rolled around, I was already dragging myself home.  I barely made it to eight o’clock before I had to go to bed.

I’m sorry that I haven’t had time to really read or post.  I don’t have time today to go back and read everything I missed out on because I’m going to the Ren Fest today.  I have to use my ticket (the one I bought before I even went to NY) this weekend because it is the last.

I hope to have pictures and stories for you tonight.  

It seems I have so many things to tell you good folks and I know I have missed out on your happenings.

My best wishes for the Job seekers.  I hope by now we have the best of news about Angel Joe.  I also hope we have had a healed toe for DR Jane and that DR Elmore got a good report from the doctor.  More puppies/dogs adopted and the blind for the Tarsus has arrived.  If I’ve missed anything I will catch it when I go back to read.

I see the TOD is Westerns.  As my Mother is a BIG John Wayne fan, I’ve seen most of his and I do enjoy them.  I think my favorites are:

War Wagon
The Man Who Shot Liberty Vance
 
McClintock
El Dorado
They Died With Their Boots On
Star War (Yeah, I know)

There’s more but I don’t have time to list them all.

Have a GREAT day and I will return this evening.

Hi Michael Shayne!  ICU   :D!!!!
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Post by: Matt H. on April 09, 2005, 07:06:07 AM
My favorite western is unquestably HOW THE WEST WAS WON with the greatest score ever written for a Western by the great Alfred Newman. I just love this movie. It holds a special place in my heart from having seen it in Cinerama upon its original release and many times since in cropped widescreen versions on TV and home video.
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Post by: Matt H. on April 09, 2005, 07:08:04 AM
I also love SHANE, RED RIVER, and HIGH NOON. DESTRY RIDES AGAIN is lots of fun as is JOHNNY GUITAR (for its camp value).

I just saw THE GUNFIGHTER a few months ago, and I was impressed with it. I'm surprised Fox has not released it as one of their Studio Classics.
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Post by: Matt H. on April 09, 2005, 07:09:18 AM
I've been up for quite a few hours this morning continuing to tinker with the new TV. I've got the DVD connection now looking smooth and film-like. Much harder to calibrate it than it was on my old CRT-rear projection set.
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Post by: Matt H. on April 09, 2005, 07:11:22 AM
I did get around to DODGEBALL this morning. It's beyond silly and into stupid territory, sad to say. There were a few laughs, but most of it would give the term "sophomoric" a bad name. Very colorful, though, and a nice DVD to use in calibrating flesh tones and non-bleeding reds.
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Post by: Matt H. on April 09, 2005, 07:12:38 AM
Oh, my, I forgot THE OX-BOW INCIDENT, one of the true western masterpieces. I LOVE that movie. And I just remembered MY DARLING CLEMENTINE, too, which is magnificent.
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Post by: Kerry on April 09, 2005, 07:12:55 AM
Besides a few already mentioned, I'd have to add "Rustler's Rhapsody" to this.

I need something wonderfully entertaining in a totally satisfying way-- I may watch "Casablanca" this weekend.
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Post by: Matt H. on April 09, 2005, 07:18:15 AM
I have CLOSER up next in my DVD list for this afternoon, but before I pop that heavy drama into the player, I may opt for something like THE WIZARD OF OZ or one of Garland's other musicals.
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Post by: Jrand74 on April 09, 2005, 08:28:43 AM
Oh....Judge Roy Bean with Paul Newman and Anthony Perkins.
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Post by: Jrand74 on April 09, 2005, 08:29:31 AM
Remember DR GINNY and DH RICHARD - Indianapolis is now one hour behind Ohio.
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Post by: bk on April 09, 2005, 08:33:09 AM
I'm up, I'm up.  She of the Evil Eye will be here around nine, so I have to get dressed and cleaned up.
Title: Re:GOING OFF ON A TANGENT IN A PICKLE
Post by: bk on April 09, 2005, 08:47:47 AM
Why AORTA bitch-slap the errant and truant from here to eternity and hell and back.   The sky is blue.  The grass is green.  The dog is black.  
Title: Re:GOING OFF ON A TANGENT IN A PICKLE
Post by: bk on April 09, 2005, 08:48:27 AM
You'd think she of the Evil Eye was visiting EVERYONE.
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Post by: bk on April 09, 2005, 08:49:19 AM
I'm doing a monologue.  I'm talkin' to myself.  Sad to be all alone in the world.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on April 09, 2005, 09:09:46 AM
Good Morning!

I'm up!  I'm up!

...Looks like quite the beautiful day outside my window...  I'm planning on staying on campus between shows today to walk around a bit more and snap a few more pics.  Should be a good day for doing just that.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on April 09, 2005, 09:12:03 AM
Has anyone else been getting a lot of Spoof E-bay and Paypal e-mails lately?  I've had about five in the past few days.  Thankfully(?), these e-mail have definitely looked fake - no attempt at all to emulate the PayPal or E-bay "styles".
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Post by: JoseSPiano on April 09, 2005, 09:13:09 AM
Page 2 Dance!!!

A graceful Pas de Deux.

Get those point shoes and tutus out of your closet!
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Post by: JoseSPiano on April 09, 2005, 09:17:00 AM
DR Hisaka - I meant to comment on the Cherry Blossom pics too.  Since I'm not near DC this weekend for the Cherry Blossom Festival, your pics helped me to feel like I was there.

When I was younger, going to the Cherry Blossoms was an annual family event.   There are a series of pictures of the whole family taken amongst the blossoms - and a few of them in front of the same tree year after year!  We still go nowadays, but usually to show out of town guests since my brothers and I are usually not in town at the same time during "high bloom".

Hmm.... HIGH BLOOM, sounds like a Western to me!

;)
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Post by: bk on April 09, 2005, 09:18:17 AM
The spoof e-mails seem to come in waves.  I've only gotten the kind that look identical to the real thing - identical except for the spelling errors and the bogus links.
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Post by: bk on April 09, 2005, 09:18:50 AM
I shall now be on my way - keep the home fries burning until my returning, you dear, dear people out there in the dark.

And remember - AORTA!
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Post by: JoseSPiano on April 09, 2005, 09:20:13 AM
As for Westerns... I haven't ever really been a fan of them either.  However, the title that always made my cousin, Richard, and I giggle was "Chisolm".  -Ah, to be 13 again!  Not! ;)

And Channel 20 in DC always seemed to show that movie with Yul Brynner and the robot cowboys, "Westworld" - ??
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Post by: JoseSPiano on April 09, 2005, 09:23:19 AM
DR JMK - As for those Microsoft Software, Security Alerts...  They actually have been sending out a bunch of legitimate e-mails lately.  However, a lot of them have been links to their new Privacy/Security/etc. "Statements".  HP has been sending out a lot of those too lately.

...At least I haven't been getting any spoof-Microsoft e-mails lately... Of course, I'm also now on a Mac, so...
Title: Re:GOING OFF ON A TANGENT IN A PICKLE
Post by: JoseSPiano on April 09, 2005, 09:33:25 AM
Is "Going Off On A Tangent In A Pickle" like

"Going Over Niagara In A Barrel"  or

"Going To Hell In A Handbasket"

???

;D
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Post by: JoseSPiano on April 09, 2005, 09:34:03 AM
OK - Time for my brunch and then off to the theatre.  I'll be bringing my laptop with me so I can check in between shows.

Laters...
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Post by: Ginny on April 09, 2005, 09:50:32 AM
TOD:  I, too , am not a huge fan of Westerns, but would like to mention Judy Garland's The Harvey Girls.  

Also, all the talk about the genre reminded me of a fun day our family had years ago at Old Tucson Studios in Arizona.  Many movies and TV series were/are filmed there and it's also a theme park.  It was one of the first of those kinds of places we took our son.  We got there early in the morning and figured he'd last, at best, a couple of hours.  Well, we had such a good time that we only left at about 4pm because a thunderstorm was rolling in.  I'm glad to see that it's still in business:

www.oldtucson.com (http://www.oldtucson.com)
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Post by: Ginny on April 09, 2005, 09:52:32 AM
Remember DR GINNY and DH RICHARD - Indianapolis is now one hour behind Ohio.

Got it, DR JRand!  And the show starts at 1pm (Indianapolis time), Right?
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Post by: JMK on April 09, 2005, 10:01:47 AM
Re:  spoof emails.  Yes, I was just mentioning to Betsy last night that I've been getting a new wave of them over the past week or so--the MS ones I mentioned (they were definitely fake, the emails were nothing but code that Norton had stripped of its viral capabilities), not to mention the PayPal and eBay ones (got a PayPal one just this morning telling me I need to confirm my bank account.  Right. ;) ).

Re:  westerns.  Well I don't know how JR could have not mentioned these already but Badlands of Dakota with an impossibly gorgeous Frances Farmer as Calamity Jane (not to mention Richard Dix, Ann Rutherford, Robert Stack, Lon Chaney and Broderick Crawford in supporting roles) is a cut above the usual 40s Universal western.  And quite possibly Frances' strangest Paramount film (which is saying a lot), Ride a Crooked Mile (AKA Escape from Yesterday).  That one features Akim Tamiroff as a Cossack cattle rustler transplanted to Kansas, Frances as his emigree Russian saloon singer ward (I kid you not--in a cape and strange headgear, no less), and Frances' then-husband Leif Erickson as Tamiroff's long-lost son.  It does feature an absolutely delectable duet between Frances and Leif (who was a big-band singer before he broke into films) in Russian.
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Post by: JMK on April 09, 2005, 10:37:04 AM
The Badlands of Dakota pressbook has a(n) hilarious quote attributed to Frances that is so wrong it's beyond funny.  The quote her as saying she doesn't like wearing chaps (she's in them for most of the film) because they're so hot and uncomfortable and also (here's the funny part) that she frowns on women wearing pants at all because it's unladylike.  This from a woman who was second (if even that) only to Katharine Hepburn in her disdain for frilly clothes.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on April 09, 2005, 10:38:36 AM
I'm back.  I'm back.

-I always seem to run "early" on matinee days...
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Post by: JoseSPiano on April 09, 2005, 10:41:00 AM
Yes, the matinee tomorrow is at 1:00pm Indianapolis time.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on April 09, 2005, 10:42:34 AM
Hmm.... Interesting... Just watching this "Survivor-type" show for teens on "Teen NBC"... "Endurance Hawaii"....  Interesting...  Complete with "confessionals"...   Hmmm...
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Post by: Charles Pogue on April 09, 2005, 10:52:39 AM
BK, BEND OF THE RIVER and THE FAR COUNTRY are also two strong Mann/Stewart westerns.

I respectfully disagree that HOW THE WEST WAS WON is the greatest western score ever.  

It doesn't come close to MAGNIFICENT SEVEN, THE BIG COUNTRY, nor Rozsa's TRIBUTE TO A BAD MAN....Then there is THE COMMANCHEROS, THE BRAVADOS (also by Mr. Newman), DODGE CITY, GUNFIGHT AT OK CORRAL, RIDE THE HIGH COUNTRY, and there are probably many more.

Though I've had the score to HTWWW since it first came out...I never been a huge fan of it.  Nor am I a huge fan of the movie.  Its very episodic structure with different directors lent itself to plenty of Cinerama thrills, but as far as a tight, compelling story with a strong thematic cohesiveness, it loses me.
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Post by: S. Woody White on April 09, 2005, 11:09:14 AM
"Star Wars??" you ask?  "Yes, 'Star Wars'," I say.  It may be set a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, but I think it's just a (reimagined) old-fashioned western...with good guys and bad guys and a shoot out and all that. ;D And a wookie. ;)
Yes, a wookie, in the part formerly played by Gabby Hayes.  Or maybe Walter Brennan.  


 ;)
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Post by: George on April 09, 2005, 11:18:31 AM
Re:  spoof emails.  Yes, I was just mentioning to Betsy last night that I've been getting a new wave of them over the past week or so--the MS ones I mentioned (they were definitely fake, the emails were nothing but code that Norton had stripped of its viral capabilities), not to mention the PayPal and eBay ones (got a PayPal one just this morning telling me I need to confirm my bank account.  Right. ;) ).

I get a few spoof e-mails, mainly fake eBay e-mails, but the bulk of them that I get come from banks that I've never used...where I've NEVER had accounts!  How does that happen??
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on April 09, 2005, 11:20:21 AM
Good morning, fellow Dear Readers.

I think that's all I have to say today.
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Post by: S. Woody White on April 09, 2005, 11:33:41 AM
Hmm.... Interesting... Just watching this "Survivor-type" show for teens on "Teen NBC"... "Endurance Hawaii"....  Interesting...  Complete with "confessionals"...   Hmmm...
What IS it with these newfangled game shows (because that's what the "reality" shows really are) having "confessionals"?  Are they all secretly Catholic?  Say three Hail Marys and win a million bucks?
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Post by: S. Woody White on April 09, 2005, 11:52:48 AM
I've never been a fan of the Western genre.  As Lisa Douglas used to say (and still does in reruns), "I get alergic smelling hay."

Besides, Westerns were claimed by my sister as HER territory, and I was not "allowed" to like them.  James Drury of The Virginian was her dreamboat.  I was banished to the back room with the old black and white TV to watch Lost In Space instead.

She was like that with a lot of things.  I also was not "allowed" to like baseball, because she was a fan and if something was "hers" it could not be mine in any way shape or form.  Don Drysdale was the dreamboat in this case.  Later in life, she was very upset when I got involved with the gay softball leagues as a scorekeeper, since I was perverting something that had been "hers."

On the other hand, I very much liked the soundtrack for How the West Was Won, but not because it's the soundtrack for a Western.  Rather, I find it to be a great example of choral work, using traditional American melodies.  It probably influenced my decision to join the Mixed Choir back when I was in Junior High.  Sadly, my voice can't handle the singing any more, but I still appreciate good choral work when I hear it, and for a time it did give me something that was "mine".
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Post by: Charles Pogue on April 09, 2005, 12:04:05 PM
Woody, I think you like the HTWWW score for the various reasons I'm not wild about it.  All the choral work and traditional folk melodies.  Those things are fine in their place, but I like more stirring, dramatic scoring that complements the onscreen drama.  But then maybe that score worked for that movie...since it's really more like a docu-drama than an actual drama.

I worked with James Drury twice in my career...once with him playing Starbuck in THE RAINMAKER and again in ONCE MORE WITH FEELING.  I've seen him a couple of times at the Ray Courts show and it's always very pleasant.
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Post by: JMK on April 09, 2005, 12:15:26 PM
Interesting that James Drury did The Rainmaker while another big western star of that era, Robert Horton, did 110 in the Shade.  Am I misremembering or was Drury attached to the original Clear Day for a while (can't remember if it was the Rodgers/Lerner Picked a Daisy, or the first attempt at the Lane/Lerner)?
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Post by: bk on April 09, 2005, 12:17:44 PM
Those who've read the Kritzer books know my feelings on How the West Was Won.  I should have loved it, thought I would love it, and didn't.  I still saw it many times, but it just didn't work for me, other than as an extravaganza.  I may have already been just past the age where EVERYTHING that was big was something I instantly loved.  What I love about Newman's score is the main title.  The rest is okay, but doesn't touch Tiomkin's High Noon, Bernstein's Magnificent Seven and Katie Elder (one of his greats), Tiomkin's Red River, Newman's own Nevada Smith (not really a western, though), Steiner's The Searchers, and even Duning's 3:10 to Yuma.  I must have been on some sort of weird wavelength when I made this the topic, because I just picked up a whole slew of new Columbia western DVDs, including Delbert Daves' Jubal, The Violent Men, The Texican, Texas (with Holden and Glenn Ford), Good Day for a Hanging (with Fred MacMurray), and The Deperados.  Most of which I've never seen.
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Post by: JMK on April 09, 2005, 12:21:25 PM
The Violint Men,

The thrilling saga of a cowboy and his clothes dryer.   ;D
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Post by: Charles Pogue on April 09, 2005, 12:38:47 PM
BK, I love Jubal and The Violent Men is rather compelling.  I've seen Texas and Good Day for a Hanging, but don't remember much about about them, though Good Day is on the westerns channel this month along with a couple of other Fred McMurray westerns.  They're calling it: My Three Westerns.
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Post by: bk on April 09, 2005, 12:39:21 PM
Whatever are you talking about???

I also feel the same way I feel about How the West Was Won about another all-star HUGE extravaganza that everyone loves - It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World.
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Post by: JMK on April 09, 2005, 12:53:05 PM
Whatever are you talking about???

 ;D ;D

Pssst---you might want to go back and check your post again.  I just couldn't think of anything clever to say about The Deperados.

I also feel the same way I feel about How the West Was Won about another all-star HUGE extravaganza that everyone loves - It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World.

I feel exactly the same--I have never gotten this movie, either.
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Post by: bk on April 09, 2005, 01:15:04 PM
The Deperados is the story of how Hollywood feels about working with Johnny Depp.

Apparently we're having a slow news day here at haineshisway.com.  If it's like this today, we may as well take a vacation tomorrow.
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Post by: bk on April 09, 2005, 01:15:25 PM
I think I'll watch some of these here westerns.
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Post by: bk on April 09, 2005, 01:15:46 PM
Holy moley on rye - page three!

AORTA!
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Post by: bk on April 09, 2005, 01:16:04 PM
AORTA do a page three dance, but I leave it to others.
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Post by: Jrand74 on April 09, 2005, 01:18:59 PM
I guess I didn't like HTWWW because (as much as I like her) it was just TOO much Debbie Reynolds.  I expected a sweeping adventure story...and we got that now and then.  But so much DEBBIE!!!

JUBAL has some scary people in it.  DR CP mentioned STAGECOACH, which I think I forgot to add to my list.  And THE LAST WAGON with Richard Widmark.
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Post by: Jrand74 on April 09, 2005, 01:19:21 PM
Yes DRJOSE as answered, DRGINNY....1 p.m. tomorrow Indianapolis time.
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Post by: Jrand74 on April 09, 2005, 01:20:21 PM
WestRens and Alblums and Nucular and Warshington.  What a strange state I live in.
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Post by: Jrand74 on April 09, 2005, 01:21:10 PM
Yes I have been receiving many of those spoof emails lately as well.  I just forward them to the proper authorities.
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Post by: Jrand74 on April 09, 2005, 01:22:35 PM
Page Three Dance in honor of ROUNDING THIRD and how quickly the guys learned The Macarena!   ;D

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Post by: Jrand74 on April 09, 2005, 01:31:23 PM
LOL....well DR JMK...I didn't forget about BADLANDS OF DAKOTA or RIDE A CROOKED MILE....but except for Frances, I don't like them much.  She is a terrific Calamity Jane (I think Doris Day had a touch of her in the later musical) and BADLANDS has some things to recommend it.

Interesting TONY charts you have bid on.  I have never even heard of such publicity items!
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Post by: Jrand74 on April 09, 2005, 01:31:47 PM
DRJOSE's matinee is nearly over.
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Post by: Matt H. on April 09, 2005, 01:33:05 PM
I LIKE the episodic quality of HOW THE WEST WAS WON. I find all the stories and characters interesting. Love iots massiveness/ Adore the score. It's my choice.
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Post by: Matt H. on April 09, 2005, 01:36:13 PM
Here's a pic of the TV snapped while THE WIZARD OF OZ was playing.

BTW, Warners is bringing out a new 2-DVD set of THE WIZARD OF OZ later this year, the movie remastered in Ultra-Resolution. Lord, I sure have bought that movie many, many times. But I'm not sure I'll spring for this one unless they include John Fricke's running commentary from the laserdisc ULTIMATE OZ boxed set.


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Post by: TCB on April 09, 2005, 01:36:56 PM
Besides a few already mentioned, I'd have to add "Rustler's Rhapsody" to this.

I need something wonderfully entertaining in a totally satisfying way-- I may watch "Casablanca" this weekend.


:o :o :o :o


Oh, you were talking about a movie!






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Post by: Matt H. on April 09, 2005, 01:38:03 PM
I guess I'll get around to CLOSER tonight before I watch my first real evening of high def TV on the new set.
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Post by: Matt H. on April 09, 2005, 01:39:07 PM
Speaking of Burt Lancaster in THE RAINMAKER, I noticed that it is being released on DVD this year. Hope Paramount gives it a VistaVision/anamorphic transfer.
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Post by: JMK on April 09, 2005, 01:52:48 PM
Wow, after almost 4000 hits to my Farmer article, I got my first hate mail today!  Some woman (who nonetheless signed her letter "Don," go figure) is really, really mad because I quoted Ed Sullivan as introducing Frances singing "Aura Lee" by Stephen Foster, when Foster didn't write the song.  "Don" has decided that this error (which was Sullivan's not mine) has cast doubt on all that I wrote.  I am heartbroken.   :P
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Post by: TCB on April 09, 2005, 01:56:47 PM
T.O.T.D.

Just to add my vote, I was never a big Western fan, either.  However, I do like:

MCLINTOCK
THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN
RIO BRAVO
CALAMITY JANE

I never did care for IT'S A MAD, MAD, MAD, MAD WORLD.  I just didn't think it was very funny.



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Post by: JMK on April 09, 2005, 01:58:21 PM
Here's a pic of the TV snapped while THE WIZARD OF OZ was playing.

BTW, Warners is bringing out a new 2-DVD set of THE WIZARD OF OZ later this year, the movie remastered in Ultra-Resolution. Lord, I sure have bought that movie many, many times. But I'm not sure I'll spring for this one unless they include John Fricke's running commentary from the laserdisc ULTIMATE OZ boxed set.


I'm selling my WOO on eBay right now in anticipation of the new release.  I've bought every release, too.  In fact I'm also selling the 50th anniversary black on white (sorry) VHS version on eBay right now.  I'm a sucker for special editions.  I'm glad I read that WHV chat because I'm unloading a bunch of VHS stuff this week that's coming out soon on DVD.  Luckily it looks like no one who's bidding read the chat (Ryan's Daughter VHS is already over $10.50, which is probably more than the DVD will cost).
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Post by: Matt H. on April 09, 2005, 02:00:15 PM
A lot of people loved MAD WORLD, but I only liked parts of it, and I found it way too long and exhausting.

Now, THE GREAT RACE I simply adored, but MAD WORLD made more than twice what THE GREAT RACE did.
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Post by: JMK on April 09, 2005, 02:02:30 PM
A lot of people loved MAD WORLD, but I only liked parts of it, and I found it way too long and exhausting.

Now, THE GREAT RACE I simply adored, but MAD WORLD made more than twice what THE GREAT RACE did.

My middle sister (the trouble child of the family, LOL) took me to see TGR when I was very young.  We stayed twice because she wanted to see the pie-fight again.  But what I remember is the second time through when "Sweetheart Tree" started playing with the bouncing ball, she started singing really loudly, urging everyone in the audience to sing along with her.
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Post by: bk on April 09, 2005, 02:04:48 PM
Speaking of Burt Lancaster in THE RAINMAKER, I noticed that it is being released on DVD this year. Hope Paramount gives it a VistaVision/anamorphic transfer.

There is no question it will get an anamorphic transfer.  Paramount is great about that stuff.
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Post by: Matt H. on April 09, 2005, 02:04:57 PM
Yes, one of the downsides to having these high resolution TVs is that videotape looks pretty awful on it. Tape is just such low resolution, and the new TV's circuitry tries to compensate with fairly awful results.

Yes, you're smart to sell that WIZARD OF OZ now before it becomes general knowledge that the new edition is coming out and the market will be flooded with the current special edition. I'm assuming all of the special features on the current disc will be carried over to the new one. I guess Warners will give the movie the first disc pretty much to itself and then put the other special features on the second disc.

I am still hoping and praying that Fricke's interesting and informative commentary makes it to the new DVD package.
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Post by: TCB on April 09, 2005, 02:06:53 PM
Sorry, but I forgot to post my answer to yesterday's topic.

CD:

THE STEPHEN SCHWARTZ ALBUM (Thank you, Tomovoz) -- What a beautifully produced CD!


DVD:

HARRY POTTER AND THE PRISONER OF ZENDA (I think)
THE TITANIC (Not Kate and Leo, but George C. and Catherine Zeta-Jones TV version)

VHS:

ROCKY AND BULLWINKLE
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Post by: Matt H. on April 09, 2005, 02:09:10 PM
There is no question it will get an anamorphic transfer.  Paramount is great about that stuff.

You're right, bk. It's Columbia and MGM that sometimes drop the ball with their transfers.
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Post by: JMK on April 09, 2005, 02:13:49 PM
You're right, bk. It's Columbia and MGM that sometimes drop the ball with their transfers.

MGM doesn't just drop the ball--they cut it up into small unusable pieces and throw it down the drain.  Not that I'm bitter about Hawaii or anything.  :)
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Post by: Joey on April 09, 2005, 02:21:27 PM
I've been errant and truant because I have been out enjoying this perfectly marvelous day!!!! I went to play frisbee and kickball in the quad! DR Jose I hope you are able to get down to the Holcomb Gardens while you are at Butler today. It runs right along fall creek I believe and they have some nice gardens Well... at least they use to have nice gardens... I haven't been there in a while.
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Post by: George on April 09, 2005, 02:40:47 PM
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You're right, bk. It's Columbia and MGM that sometimes drop the ball with their transfers.

MGM doesn't just drop the ball--they cut it up into small unusable pieces and throw it down the drain.  Not that I'm bitter about Hawaii or anything.  :)

Speaking of MGM, according to THIS (http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Movies/04/08/film.mgm.reut/index.html) article, "MGM is gone. So is United Artists."

The headline is:  "Bye-bye, MGM.  Famed studio, and UA partner, swallowed up in purchase."

I wonder how that will affect what they release in the future!
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Post by: Michael on April 09, 2005, 02:41:40 PM
Does anyone know the Portrait of Jenny with Joesph Cotten and Jennifer Jones was released by MGM and not Warner's. I thought all MGM films of that era are now released by Warners.
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Post by: JMK on April 09, 2005, 02:44:47 PM
Does anyone know the Portrait of Jenny with Joesph Cotten and Jennifer Jones was released by MGM and not Warner's. I thought all MGM films of that era are now released by Warners.

Wasn't that a Goldwyn production?  All of the Goldwyn/UA features have reverted to MGM/UA.  Hence the recent rerelease of Come and Get It on MGM/UA DVD (and it's botched, as is to be expected).
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Post by: Tomovoz on April 09, 2005, 02:47:54 PM
I watched an "almost Western" last night.  "The Milagro Beanfield War". It rates in my top 10 favourite movies.   The Dave Grusin score is wonderful as are Ruben Blades and Sonia Braga.
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Post by: Michael on April 09, 2005, 02:48:48 PM
I posted my question before I saw the link to the MGM article. What a sad end to a great studio. I think it was the best I loved their movies
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Post by: Michael on April 09, 2005, 02:50:07 PM
Wasn't that a Goldwyn production?  All of the Goldwyn/UA features have reverted to MGM/UA.  Hence the recent rerelease of Come and Get It on MGM/UA DVD (and it's botched, as is to be expected).

I know it wasn't Goldwyn. I believe it was Selznick. Weren't Selznick films released by MGM?
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Post by: Charles Pogue on April 09, 2005, 03:24:17 PM
JRand54,  you mentioned another reason I'm not wild about How The West Was Won.  Definitely, too much Debbie Reynolds.  One can quibble about how the West was won, but it's a sure bet Debbie didn't win it.
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Post by: TCB on April 09, 2005, 03:36:37 PM
Judging by the photos that I have seen today, Camilla made quite a lovely bride.
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Post by: Jane on April 09, 2005, 03:57:04 PM
From Michael Shayne: Elmoore did a lovely version of Inchworm on Liz Callaway's Frank Loesser album.
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Yes he did.  :D.    
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Post by: Jane on April 09, 2005, 04:02:05 PM


I also feel the same way I feel about How the West Was Won about another all-star HUGE extravaganza that everyone loves - It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World.

I feel the same about both movies.
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Post by: elmore3003 on April 09, 2005, 04:03:48 PM
From Michael Shayne: Elmoore did a lovely version of Inchworm on Liz Callaway's Frank Loesser album.Yes he did.  :D.    

Jane, Jane, Jane! :-*
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Post by: Jane on April 09, 2005, 04:06:10 PM

Joey how nice you didn’t miss the reunion with your cousin.

Jose I really enjoyed the photos.  The one of you and Penny is very sweet.
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Post by: bk on April 09, 2005, 04:08:08 PM
elmore, do you remember the original girl on Inchworm with Liz.  She was in Les Miz, and we all just couldn't stand her voice ultimately, although she was a good singer and a nice girl.  I replaced her twice as I recall - the final time with a non-pro in LA.  The original girl, of course, went on to become quite a TV name, starring on, I think, Party of Five or whatever that show was called.
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Post by: elmore3003 on April 09, 2005, 04:10:01 PM
I'm back from Barnes & Noble!  The weather in NYC is wonderful today, balmy, a little cool, but bright and sunny.  The good weather seemed to cheer up the customers today, since everyone seemed in a good mood.  I had one dreadful old lady who needed a smack, but everyone else was quite nice.  This is rare for the Upper West side clientele.

Tonight I have to dig through cartons of sheet music; I hope I have a copy of "Up Up and Away" since I need to add the melody line to the full score I'm doing for Liz Callaway, and I'm too lazy to transcribe it from her recording.

This gives me the excuse to file away some DVDs as well, and I hope to be unconscious by 11:00 or so.

I enjoyed HOW THE WEST WAS WON when I saw it 40 years ago, but I haven't seen it since.  I remember liking the recording, but I think my favorite western score is Moross' THE BIG COUNTRY.  I'd call THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN score a close tie.
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Post by: elmore3003 on April 09, 2005, 04:14:37 PM
elmore, do you remember the original girl on Inchworm with Liz.  She was in Les Miz, and we all just couldn't stand her voice ultimately, although she was a good singer and a nice girl.  I replaced her twice as I recall - the final time with a non-pro in LA.  The original girl, of course, went on to become quite a TV name, starring on, I think, Party of Five or whatever that show was called.

Lacey Chabert?  She woud have been around 12 or so at the time.  Was she the girl who's mother played percussion in GRAND HOTEL, or was that Reject #2?
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Post by: elmore3003 on April 09, 2005, 04:15:47 PM
Dear Friend BK, who was the girl who sang "The Glamorous Life" on SONDHEIM AT THE MOVIES?  She was a sweetie!
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Post by: JoseSPiano on April 09, 2005, 04:39:44 PM
Good Afternoon!

Greetings from Row 5, Seat 201, in Clowes Memorial Hall!

Love the fact that stage management travels with an Airport Hub!

-The crew is running through their light and sound check.  Lots of lights! Lots of sound!

DR Joey - I did make it down to the Canal and down to the Holcomb Gardens.  Beautiful area, and even though not much was really in bloom there was still lots of flora and fauna to admire.

I ate my between-show meal on one of the tables outside Atherton Union, then I walked around the campus.  I ended up walking for about an hour.  Felt good - I hadn't done that in a while.  -And I hope to get back on my walking and running kick once I'm back in Richmond next week - I've slacked long enough!!

What a great campus.  Not too big, not too small.  And apparently a sizable athletics program.  A track here, a field house there, a soccer field over there...

Since I went to a school that had an "urban campus", it's always nice when I get to school that has an actual campus.

----Oh, very cool - they're running through all the light gobos... :)
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Post by: JoseSPiano on April 09, 2005, 04:41:38 PM
And a great audience this afternoon too!  Including two very cute girls who were sitting in the front row - possibly twins.  They clapped and smiled the whole time.  *And one of them turned to their grandmother to ask about a certain term during the show... Hmm...  -I shall reveal said word tomorrow, after DRs Ginny, Jrand and Joey have seen the show.

;)
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Post by: JoseSPiano on April 09, 2005, 04:42:43 PM
...I walked by the music building earlier too...  There's something "strangely" comforting about the musical cacophony coming from a suite of practice rooms.
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Post by: TCB on April 09, 2005, 04:48:12 PM
Good Afternoon!

Greetings from Row 5, Seat 201, in Clowes Memorial Hall!

Love the fact that stage management travels with an Airport Hub!

-The crew is running through their light and sound check.  Lots of lights! Lots of sound!

DR Joey - I did make it down to the Canal and down to the Holcomb Gardens.  Beautiful area, and even though not much was really in bloom there was still lots of flora and fauna to admire.


Would that be Dirk Flora and Troy Fauna
 that you were admiring?
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Post by: JoseSPiano on April 09, 2005, 04:51:11 PM
Would that be Dirk Flora and Troy Fauna
 that you were admiring?

Well... I did happen to walk by the row of fraternity houses...  So...

;)

-It was kind of interesting to note, however, besides the usual games of frisbee and volleyball, there was a group of students playing cricket!  It was either that or some sort of game of softball on steroids.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on April 09, 2005, 04:51:35 PM
OK - They're about to open the house...

Laters...
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Post by: Danise on April 09, 2005, 04:57:38 PM
Hi folks!

I just got home a little while ago.

I'm ticked.  I put what I thought were "fresh" (well, fully recharged) batteries in my camera.  I decided to be really bold and daring and didn't take my usual second and third back up.  

Hanged if it didn't come back to bite me in the butt big time.  I only took about 3 pictures and the batteries went dead.  

So, I'm sorry I couldn't keep my word and have pictures to share with you tonight.   :(

It was a lovely day.  I confess that I go mainly to look at the guys with the long hair and swishing cloaks and chain mail and swords and such.  Sigh.  

I also go to look at one band that plays there every year.  It's called "Empty Hats".    I highly recommend them if you like old Irish/Celtic music.  I bought one of their CD's today that had most of my favorite songs on it.

I bought a lovely silver dragon necklace. They are hand made so no two are exactly alike.  If you remember my gargolye necklace that I wore in NY, the dragon is like him.  A 3 D version.  I perfer that kind to the "flat" kind.  

The only bad thing was I ate "something" and was ill by the time I left.  Of course, I ate quite a few "somethings" so I'm not sure where to lay the blame.  

I'm relaxing and watching "The Man Who Shot Liberty Vance".  

I have more to tell you but it will have to wait.

Laters!





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Post by: JoseSPiano on April 09, 2005, 05:04:00 PM
Hello again!

This time I'm in the "green room" area.  Comfy chairs and well-stocked soda and snack machines nearby.  -Ooohhh, TGIFriday's Potato Skins Chips...

And, apparently, we're practically sold out tonight too! :)
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Post by: JoseSPiano on April 09, 2005, 05:09:17 PM
DR Danise - Sorry to hear about your weak camera batteries.

I guess I was very lucky with my "old" digital camera.  The battery life was always longer than expected - and longer than even indicated in the owner's manual.  I never really had to worry about carrying around a spare of rechargeables with me.

I remember when Steve brought his new (at the time) digital camera to NYC, he was switching out batteries almost hourly it seemed.  And while researching a new digital camera, it was always surprising to read that people could only get about 10-20 shots before their batteries went dead.  I could go days without recharging my batteries in my "old" Fuji Finepix.  I could even fill up the memory card before the low battery indicator went on.

Hopefully, when I buy another digital camera, I will have the same "luck".
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Post by: bk on April 09, 2005, 05:14:36 PM
Yes, Lacey Chabert - don't remember her mother.

And how could I have forgotten Moross' brilliant score to The Big Country?

The Glamorous Life girl was Cassidy Ladden, who I discovered in the Nell Carter Annie tryout - she went on to do the Bernadette Annie Get Your Gun.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on April 09, 2005, 05:23:15 PM
Hehe...

I just noticed in my "tab" that the title of today's notes is shortened to: GOING OFF ON A TANG.

Hmm... So, does that mean Going off on a orange-flavored drink developed for NASA, or does it mean going off of a knife blade?
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Post by: JoseSPiano on April 09, 2005, 05:23:56 PM
Half Hour.  The Call is Half Hour.

Laters...
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Post by: Charles Pogue on April 09, 2005, 05:30:31 PM
TCB, I wish folks would just get off Prince Charles' back!
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Post by: elmore3003 on April 09, 2005, 05:31:23 PM
Yes, Lacey Chabert - don't remember her mother.

And how could I have forgotten Moross' brilliant score to The Big Country?

The Glamorous Life girl was Cassidy Ladden, who I discovered in the Nell Carter Annie tryout - she went on to do the Bernadette Annie Get Your Gun.

My memory of Lacey is really vague, but I'd swear one of the first two girls was a percussionist.

On a good note, my memory did locate a copy of "Up Up and Away" and all my DVDs are stored away.  Fantastic!
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Post by: Jane on April 09, 2005, 05:34:42 PM
Danise your day sounds like fun except for getting sick.  Feel better real soon.

I forgot to take my camera with me today and missed a great shot of our wild turkeys.  I almost walked into them and they didn't move.
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Post by: Jane on April 09, 2005, 05:36:20 PM
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From SWW:

Dear Jane, you and I and der Brucer absolutely MUST get together and record trios!  We could set musicology back by decades...which might not be a bad thing!


 ;D ;D No way am I ever going to let anyone record my voice!! ;D
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Post by: Jane on April 09, 2005, 05:50:59 PM
Ginny I didn’t think to include THE HARVEY GIRLS, great choice.

Keith says his favorites are SILVERADO and UNFORGIVEN

I will add:
HIGH NOON
THREE MULES FOR SISTER SARA
MAGNIFICENT SEVEN
BLAZING SADLES
Rachel And The Stranger

Not to be left out I will include one of my all time favorite movies
STAR WARS
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Post by: Ginny on April 09, 2005, 05:51:14 PM
;D ;D No way am I ever going to let anyone record my voice!! ;D

Jane, if I joined you and SWW and der Brucer we could be the Official HHW Non-Singer Quartet  ;D
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Post by: Ginny on April 09, 2005, 05:53:36 PM
Danise - After hearing about your digital camera woes, I just put an extra set of batteries in my bag for tomorrrow's Mamma Mia gathering in Indianapolis.  I hope your Ren Fest flu doesn't last very long.
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Post by: bk on April 09, 2005, 06:13:09 PM
Might I just ask where in tarnation IS everyone?  We're not on vacation, you know.  Why, AORTA do me some fancy bitch-slappin', that's what AORTA do.

But, I won't.  However, when I return from seeing the new Woody Allen motion picture, I would sincerely hope and trust that I'll have some posts to read.
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Post by: Ginny on April 09, 2005, 06:35:26 PM
Jane - This week I've been putting together my trip to Chicago, June 24-28, to attend the ALA Conference.  Tell Keith that I'm looking forward to riding the Gale buses.
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Post by: Jane on April 09, 2005, 06:36:40 PM
Ginny if I had other “lovely” voices to sing along with I might not be so shy.  However, I’m not sure I can overcome a lifetime of being told  PLEASE STOP SINGING. ;D
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Post by: Ginny on April 09, 2005, 06:41:43 PM
Ginny if I had other “lovely” voices to sing along with I might not be so shy.  However, I’m not sure I can overcome a lifetime of being told  PLEASE STOP SINGING. ;D

Well, our dear friend Elmore helped me a lot in that area, but I still consider myself a non-singer.  He directed me in the role that best-suited my musical talent, the Mute in The Fantasticks!
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Post by: Jane on April 09, 2005, 06:46:51 PM
Ginny, I passed along your message.  :) Keith says to avoid the extra garlic pizza at Pizzeria Duo. :o
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Post by: Michael on April 09, 2005, 06:48:09 PM
Wasn't Lacey chabert in Midler's Gypsy?
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on April 09, 2005, 06:48:31 PM
The complete score to "How the West Was Won" was released by Rhino on CD several years ago.  It's in dazzling stereophonic sound and is the definitive recording of that score of all that have come and gone.

It's Alfred Newman's magnum opus and quite possibly the finest blend of original music and American folk music ever assembled for one film.  The choral work is stunning.
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Post by: Jane on April 09, 2005, 06:48:43 PM
Yes, the Mute works but if you can sing at all around people then your concept of the quality of my voice is far too high!
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on April 09, 2005, 06:50:22 PM
Wasn't Lacey chabert in Midler's Gypsy?

She has matured into a very lovely young woman and, thanks be to the Most High, she has lost that annoying little girl munchkin voice.
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Post by: Michael on April 09, 2005, 06:50:55 PM
course if there are any questions on who sang on what Kimmel produced album all you have to do is go to www.brucekimmel.com  (http://www.brucekimmel.com) where you also find the Larry Moore Info page
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Post by: Ginny on April 09, 2005, 06:53:34 PM
...the extra garlic pizza at Pizzeria Duo.

 :P :P :P
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Post by: TCB on April 09, 2005, 07:04:09 PM
TCB, I wish folks would just get off Prince Charles' back!

DR Charles, I was being quite serious when I noted that Camilla looked very lovely in the wedding photos that I saw this afternoon.  I am sorry if you took offense to my comment, but, frankly, I don't know how to post my comments with a non-smiley face to show that I am being serious.
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Post by: Ginny on April 09, 2005, 07:07:44 PM
Jose - Thanks for the great NYC pictures!  I sent the one of niece Laura and myself to her, her mother (my sister), my mother (her grandmother), and my aunt (my mother's sister).  When the 5 of us are together, which doesn't happen often, we have someone in her 80's, 70's, 60's, 50's, and 40's.
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Post by: Jane on April 09, 2005, 07:11:01 PM
TCB-LOL.  We need non-smiley faces just for you.  

I didn't think you were joking and checked out the wedding photos.  I hope they will be very happy.  The entire situation was very sad.  
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Post by: TCB on April 09, 2005, 07:14:46 PM
Thank you, Jane.  Charles is a very nice man, and I hope that they will both be very happy.
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Post by: Jane on April 09, 2005, 07:18:43 PM
You are welcome. :)

Ginny I passed along your last message. ;D
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Post by: François de Paris on April 09, 2005, 07:22:29 PM
The complete score to "How the West Was Won" was released by Rhino on CD several years ago.
  The choral work is stunning.

Ken Darby! Ken Darby! Ken Darby!  :)
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Post by: François de Paris on April 09, 2005, 07:25:00 PM
Thank you, Jane.  Charles is a very nice man, and I hope that they will both be very happy.

Blimey, TCB! You DO know Charles???? ;)
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Post by: Tomovoz on April 09, 2005, 07:28:32 PM
That should not surprise you DR François.
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Post by: Ginny on April 09, 2005, 07:36:51 PM
Must say "Goodnight," all.  It's been a long day, at the end of a long week.
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Post by: Jed on April 09, 2005, 07:46:39 PM
Been rather E&T the past few days.  The one downside to having a job, I suppose.  But actually getting a paycheck yesterday after so long was a wonderful thing, I must say.  Also picking up some major overtime.  All day today at time-and-a-half and all day tomorrow at double time... I'll take all I can get!
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Post by: Jane on April 09, 2005, 07:52:47 PM
Is Ann also getting overtime?  
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Post by: Jed on April 09, 2005, 07:56:11 PM
Yup!  We're both raking in the bucks... more or less. :D
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Post by: Jane on April 09, 2005, 07:57:47 PM
That's great!!!
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Post by: Jane on April 09, 2005, 07:58:37 PM
Off to watch something.
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Post by: JMK on April 09, 2005, 08:01:53 PM
I've always considered Alfred Newman's magnum opus to be The Greatest Story Ever Told, though I do love the score to HTWIW.  I'll tell you what bothers me even more than Debbie Reynolds in HTWIW--that damn "seam" that runs down the length of the image where the cameras overlapped.  Drives me batty every time I watch.

My copy of Ryan's Daughter is up to $22.05.  So I guess I've paid for the new DVD twice over.  :)   Thank heavens it's going to be a WB release; if the MGM side had done it, it would no doubt be in the 45 minute version. ;)
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Post by: Matt H. on April 09, 2005, 08:11:13 PM
I know it wasn't Goldwyn. I believe it was Selznick. Weren't Selznick films released by MGM?

Nope, just GONE WITH THE WIND and that was because Selznick needed their help in financing the movie and the services of Clark Gable. His other independent features were released through United Artists, I believe. (Of course, he was a lot producer at MGM in the mid-30s responsible for DAVID COPPERFIELD, A TALE OF TWO CITIES, and others.)
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Post by: Matt H. on April 09, 2005, 08:17:55 PM
The Cinerama "seams" don't bother me at all for it or THE WONDERFUL WORLD OF THE BROTHERS GRIMM. Wonder why that one hasn't made an appearance on DVD? Seems like someone asked about it at a Warner chat once, and they said it was in terrible shape and would cost too much to repair for a DVD issue that they didn't think would pay for itself.

It isn't a movie that's at the top of anyone's list, I guess, but it does have some marvelous fairy tale sequences, and it did win a costume design Oscar.
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Post by: TCB on April 09, 2005, 08:20:06 PM
Matt, congratulations on the new television.  It looks fantastic.









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Post by: Matt H. on April 09, 2005, 08:22:18 PM
Watched the entire THE PIRATE today (last week, I jsut compared the TCM print with the laserdisc transfer and found the laser to be the superior element.) I can see why folks in 1948 wouldn't have been enthused about seeing Judy play more grown up than usual, but it's actually quite marvelous and looks sensational. Despite all the problems Judy was having at the time, I think she looks ravishing in the film, very grown up and sophisticated.
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Post by: Matt H. on April 09, 2005, 08:24:15 PM
Matt, congratulations on the new television.  It looks fantastic.




Thank you, DR TCB. I have really been enjoying it. I'm sure it will satisfy my television needs for many years to come.
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on April 09, 2005, 08:34:04 PM
I'm selling my WOO on eBay right now

Wow--does eBay allow that?!?

I've often thought about selling my woo on eBay but I'm afraid of negative feedback.
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Post by: td on April 09, 2005, 08:35:34 PM
Oh....Judge Roy Bean with Paul Newman and Anthony Perkins.

Marmalade, Molasses and Honey. . .one of my favorite songs from a western film.

I like HONDO quite a bit.
HOW THE WEST WAS WON, to be sure.
MAN WHO SHOT LIBERTY VALENCE
ONCE UPON A TIME IN THE WEST couldn't be better than it already is.
THE OUTLAW JOSEY WALES & PALE RIDER.
RED RIVER.
LONESOME DOVE (the tv miniseries).
. . .and going out on a limb here, but, I'd count THE LAST PICTURE SHOW as a western.
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Post by: TCB on April 09, 2005, 08:36:09 PM
D-T-M, so nice to see you!
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Post by: TCB on April 09, 2005, 08:37:24 PM

td, how are you doing?
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Post by: Jed on April 09, 2005, 08:38:03 PM
Dan (the Man) has returned!  Huzzah!!!
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Post by: td on April 09, 2005, 08:45:58 PM

td, how are you doing?

Fine, TCB, just fine.
I also thought the former Ms. Parker-Bowles looked splediferous today.
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Post by: td on April 09, 2005, 08:46:32 PM
I think we should all pitch some WOO on Ebay.
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Post by: TCB on April 09, 2005, 08:50:08 PM
I think we should all pitch some WOO on Ebay.


I think I would rather pitch it in Pennsylvania!
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on April 09, 2005, 08:59:36 PM
D-T-M, so nice to see you!

Dan (the Man) has returned!  Huzzah!!!

Thanks, guys.


I think I would rather pitch it in Pennsylvania!

That's actually Pennsylvania's new state motto.
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Post by: TCB on April 09, 2005, 09:05:54 PM
Thanks, guys.That's actually Pennsylvania's new state motto.




I like it.



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Post by: Jrand74 on April 09, 2005, 09:08:27 PM
DtM & td on the same page!  Hurray!  Good evening, gentlemen.
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Post by: Jrand74 on April 09, 2005, 09:10:37 PM
Great Noo Yoork pics, DR JOSE and thanks for the MAMMA MIA! updates.  Yes, Clowes Hall is a fine place, and I can hardly wait.  My internet courtesy COMCAST HIGH SPEED has been down for nearly 10 hours....so if you ask me something here or send me an email and I don't respond - blame COMCAST.

A word two girls from Indiana didn't know?  I am excited to meet DR GINNY DH RICHARD AND DR JOEY tomorrow!

I will wear my blue trousers, blue jacket, and maybe a blue shirt, and a baseball cap!  See ya all there!
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Post by: Jrand74 on April 09, 2005, 09:11:23 PM
DRMATTH what a great photo of your TV!  That is something else that is on my "buy" list when I start working again.  Wow!  Are commercials broadcast in HD?
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Post by: Jrand74 on April 09, 2005, 09:11:42 PM
MADTv is on!
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on April 09, 2005, 09:13:03 PM
JRand--your odometer has hit 8001!  I have been away a long time!
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Post by: TCB on April 09, 2005, 09:15:44 PM
JRand--your odometer has hit 8001!  I have been away a long time!


No, D-t-M, he was odd long before that.
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Post by: Jrand74 on April 09, 2005, 09:22:47 PM
Thank you DRTCB!  That is true.

And thanks for noticing DR DtM - I hadn't!
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Post by: Jrand74 on April 09, 2005, 09:24:32 PM
The screen seams in HTWWW and TBG bother me on TV as well.  I think what really freaks me out though is they people walk around and get really BIG and distorted by coming toward the camera.  This is on video, but I think I remember it that way at the movies, too.

And of course THE BROTHERS GRIMM is being remade with Matt Damon as one or the other of the bro's.
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Post by: Jrand74 on April 09, 2005, 09:26:16 PM
The Brothers Grimm directed by Terry Gilliam and starring Matt Damon and Heath Ledger is completed and in post-production.
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Post by: td on April 09, 2005, 09:32:35 PM

I think I would rather pitch it in Pennsylvania!

The Keystone State heartily welcomes anyone who wants to pitch their WOO with td. . .

DR D-T-M, thanks for the good thoughts, and WELCOME BACK, too. . .
DR Francois, ditto.

I'm still siding with Jane Russell and liking big muscles and red corpuscles which make the blood flow to the AORTA.   ;)
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Post by: Jrand74 on April 09, 2005, 09:34:50 PM
Hmmmmmm  Portrait of Jennie is listed as a Vanguard Films Productions movie, Selznick Releasing Organization, with a video release by Fox Video and a DVD release by Anchor Bay - and a new DVD release by MGM.
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Post by: Jrand74 on April 09, 2005, 09:35:26 PM
Aorta - isn't that next to the B-orta?
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Post by: François de Paris on April 09, 2005, 09:36:48 PM
Fine, TCB, just fine.
I also thought the former Ms. Parker-Bowles looked splediferous today.

That's it! That's the adjective I've been looking for!
She sure looked.... splediferous!

Brilliant!! ;)
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Post by: Jrand74 on April 09, 2005, 09:38:45 PM
JOSE is in the house!  Why aren't you out partying with the chorus boys?
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on April 09, 2005, 09:41:00 PM
Aorta Montez--the name of the lead character of my new play The Sanguine Senorita.
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Post by: François de Paris on April 09, 2005, 09:42:16 PM
Aorta - isn't that next to the B-orta?

Which is close to C-orta!!

As for TCB-orta.... I don't have a clue! :)
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Post by: François de Paris on April 09, 2005, 09:44:18 PM
JOSE is in the house!  Why aren't you out partying with the chorus boys?

If he were... they'd all be chorus MEN by now!! :o :D
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Post by: JoseSPiano on April 09, 2005, 09:46:40 PM
JOSE is in the house!  Why aren't you out partying with the chorus boys?

...Well...  I didn't really feel like it.  Two show days really do take it out of me now.  Guess I am getting older.

;)

And with the 1:00 matinee tomorrow - which seemed to catch some people off-guard when they were walking out the stage door tonight...  hopefully, everyone will be there by the downbeat!
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Post by: JoseSPiano on April 09, 2005, 09:47:18 PM
If he were... they'd all be chorus MEN by now!! :o :D

In my dreams.   In my dreams!

;D
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Post by: JoseSPiano on April 09, 2005, 09:52:09 PM
Oh, I meant to mention something yesterday...

On the way out the show last night, there was a couple with a beautiful dog standing by the stage door.  The dog was a lab/golden retriever mix - beautiful coat - and he was being trained to be a guide dog for the blind.

They all - the couple and the dog - actually sat through the show - and then they waited by one of the exits to "test" the dog.  People were allowed to pet him, but he was not allowed to lick or move.  And he didn't.  It was very cool, and the couple training the dog have been doing this for years.

They noted the one thing that distracts 99% of the dogs - even after they've been trained - is applause.  They can sit through other loud sounds, but for some reason applause makes them perk up.  -It would be interesting to find out exactly why that would be a trigger for them.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on April 09, 2005, 09:53:11 PM
DR Ginny - You're welcome.
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Post by: Jrand74 on April 09, 2005, 09:54:14 PM
Applause always does it for me, too!
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Post by: Jrand74 on April 09, 2005, 09:54:31 PM
Where are we meeting you tomorrow DRJOSE?
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Post by: TCB on April 09, 2005, 09:58:43 PM
Which is close to C-orta!!

As for TCB-orta.... I don't have a clue! :)

You are just lucky, my dear François, that they do not allow groaning at this here site!


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Post by: Charles Pogue on April 09, 2005, 10:04:20 PM
TCB, no! I wasn't offended at all!  I was AGREEING with you!  These two people have been in love for a long time.  I've always found Charles to be a earnest, funny, and rather delightful fellow.  I think Camilla has been unfairly portrayed as a home-wrecker.  I think Diana was not the pristine, put-upon-thing she pretended to be.

I think it's time folks just let Charles have a little happiness.  I also think he would make a good and responsible king!
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Post by: Joey on April 09, 2005, 10:05:06 PM
Back from a wonderful evening with friends. We had hamburgers, corn on the cob, french fries, pasta salad, and strawberry shortcake for desert. We truly did laugh and laugh and then when we thought we could laugh no longer we laughed some more! :D I am doing some laundry but I will be heading to bed as soon as the next load hits the dryer. I am trying to figure out where exactly my dress shoes have lumbered off to but if push comes to shove I have an old pair at home I can use.
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Post by: Joey on April 09, 2005, 10:07:00 PM
I am slightly burnt from my escapades outside today so I do hope you will forgive my redness tomorrow. ;)
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Post by: Charles Pogue on April 09, 2005, 10:07:29 PM
Jane, RACHEL & THE STRANGER is a great choice, though I suppose it could qualify as early Americana as opposed to a western, but it's a terrific little movie.  Probably my favourite Loretta Young movie.  Of course, both Holden and Mitchum are terrific in it.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on April 09, 2005, 10:07:39 PM
DRs Jed and Ann - May the money keep rolling in!  (ah, an Evita reference - sort of.)
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Post by: JoseSPiano on April 09, 2005, 10:12:26 PM
Where are we meeting you tomorrow DRJOSE?

Well...

I'm hoping to catch the four of you before the show...  All depends upon what the car situation is tomorrow morning.

And then feel free to come down to the pit at intermission or right after the show.

Otherwise, the stage door is off audience right/stage right.

-Oh, and I didn't realize that our Musical Director/Conductor was only on "vacation" for a few days - he came back in today.  So he'll be conducting tomorrow's shows - he sat in the house tonight and listened.  So, if you want to see Chris, you'll have to come down to the Pit Rail.  ;)
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Post by: Charles Pogue on April 09, 2005, 10:12:54 PM
I've always thought Alfred Newman's magnum opus is CAPTAIN FROM CASTILE!
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Post by: Joey on April 09, 2005, 10:13:23 PM
TOD: I haven't seen enough Westerns to be a good judge, though I do enjoy the Harvey Girls. I know the Western was huge for many of you when you were children so I can appreciate how much they mean to people based on my own experience with favorite television programs growing up.
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Post by: Jrand74 on April 09, 2005, 10:14:30 PM
Yes, DRJOSE we can come down to the pit rail at intermission and check out the instruments.
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Post by: Joey on April 09, 2005, 10:14:33 PM
Well...

I'm hoping to catch the four of you before the show...  All depends upon what the car situation is tomorrow morning.

And then feel free to come down to the pit at intermission or right after the show.

Otherwise, the stage door is off audience right/stage right.

-Oh, and I didn't realize that our Musical Director/Conductor was only

Only what?! The suspense is killing us! ;-)
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Post by: JoseSPiano on April 09, 2005, 10:14:54 PM
I am slightly burnt from my escapades outside today so I do hope you will forgive my redness tomorrow. ;)

I could always check with the makeup department...
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Post by: JoseSPiano on April 09, 2005, 10:17:20 PM
Only what?! The suspense is killing us! ;-)

Oops... I hit "Post" by accident... The "modified" and complete post now appears above.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on April 09, 2005, 10:19:05 PM
Oh, and I have to say that Clowes has quite roomy rows.  Lots of legroom, and just enough room for people to pass without making the people sitting stand up.
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Post by: Jrand74 on April 09, 2005, 10:20:21 PM
Well as Maggie said in 42ND STREET - " That's where they keep the musicians.  There's a reason why they call it a pit."
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Post by: Jrand74 on April 09, 2005, 10:21:03 PM
I LOVE CLOWES.  I hope you have circulated the famous Judy Garland-Frances Farmer story among the cast, DRJOSE.
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Post by: Jrand74 on April 09, 2005, 10:26:59 PM
Oh!  On EBAY there is a souvenir program from DO I HEAR A WALTZ? in 1967.  The John Kenley Players in Ohio featuring Anita Bryant, Bob Wright, and Monique Van Vooren.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on April 09, 2005, 10:30:40 PM
I've also been fond of Alfred Newman's score for the MARK OF ZORRO.
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Post by: Jrand74 on April 09, 2005, 10:31:09 PM
My parents went to see CAPTAIN FROM CASTILLE on their first date.  
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Post by: Jrand74 on April 09, 2005, 10:34:55 PM
Onna White - choreographer from Broadway and movies (The Music Man, Mame, Oliver!) has passed away.  :'(
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Post by: François de Paris on April 09, 2005, 10:35:33 PM
My parents went to see CAPTAIN FROM CASTILLE on their first date.  

What did they see on their second date? :)
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Post by: Jrand74 on April 09, 2005, 10:38:29 PM
LOL....hmmmmmmm Francois - I think it was ABBOTT AND COSTELLO MEET FRANKENSTEIN.

You know how cultured we are here in the MidWest! :)
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Post by: bk on April 09, 2005, 10:40:20 PM
I'm back - I have company for a short time, so notes may be up a bit late.
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Post by: Jrand74 on April 09, 2005, 10:41:50 PM
Phone rings door chimes in comes COMPANY!

Hello DR RODZINSKI!
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Post by: Jrand74 on April 09, 2005, 10:42:09 PM
I need to go to sleep since I am being photographed tomorrow!
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Post by: Jrand74 on April 09, 2005, 10:42:33 PM
Hopefully I will have internet access in the morning!
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Post by: JoseSPiano on April 09, 2005, 10:50:42 PM
Well, I have a matinee in 12 hours, so...

And I also have to get some "party favors" prepared...  ;)

-And, no, DR TCB, that is NOT a euphemism!

;D

Goodnight.
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Post by: TCB on April 09, 2005, 11:00:10 PM
Well, I have a matinee in 12 hours, so...

And I also have to get some "party favors" prepared...  ;)

-And, no, DR TCB, that is NOT a euphemism!

;D

Goodnight.


DAMN!
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Post by: TCB on April 09, 2005, 11:02:55 PM
You know, I couldn't find a copy to rent of the silent version of KING OF KINGS anywhere in Tacoma.  So, I just popped in the Jeffrey Hunter version, and turned the sound off.
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Post by: Rodzinski on April 09, 2005, 11:06:17 PM
Sweet bird o' youth, I am back!

Jose, great pictures last night. The Gal is most pleased. What happened with the shot we did of you up in the tunel at 191st street? Just curious.
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Post by: Rodzinski on April 09, 2005, 11:09:44 PM
Westerns:
THE GOOD THE BAD AND THE UGLY-- Just so over the top.
THE HIRED HAND-- really anything Warren Oates was ever in, as I consider him to be perhaps the greatest actor ever. So this would also include THE WILD BUNCH, the two Monte Hellman films mentioned, and various other Peckinpah films
RANCHO DELUXE-- A modern western to be sure, but really fun
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Post by: Rodzinski on April 09, 2005, 11:16:50 PM
Saw a Broadway show this evening that was quite a treat: DIRTY ROTTEN SCOUNDRELS. I'm not a big Lithgow fan, but he was rendered inoffensive by the overpoweringly hilarious performance of Norbert Leo Butz. Butz nearly brought down the house a couple times. I had seen him as the romantic lead in WICKED and thought very little of him, but tonight he gave a physical tour de force of real what I'd call life-giving comedy.

Music was not bad, some really sharp lyrics, a couple memorable tunes. Lithgow had a blah ballad that just had to be in there, I guess. Third show in a row that I've actually enjoyed.

After the show, it was donation-seeking time, and Lithgow drew a caricature of himself that he auctioned off right then for $3,100! That was pretty exciting. A guy in the balcony won it, and the actress taking the bids said, "Well, you saved on your seats, so..."
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Post by: Jrand74 on April 09, 2005, 11:18:07 PM
LOL TCB - some movies, well that's the best way to watch.  And then there is the old trick of putting a movie on, and watching it while playing a CD.  Some interesting things sometime happen.
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Post by: Rodzinski on April 09, 2005, 11:18:50 PM
I'll just keep posting! The auction winner also got to drink champagne in Lithgow's dressing room while he then drew a caricature of said winner. A pretty good night for BROADWAY CARES.
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Post by: Rodzinski on April 09, 2005, 11:19:20 PM
Hey  JRand! I finally caught up and started posting.
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Post by: Jrand74 on April 09, 2005, 11:19:26 PM
DR RODZINSKI - my cousin and her husband saw DIRTY ROTTEN SCOUNDRELS a couple of weeks ago and raved about it.
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Post by: Jrand74 on April 09, 2005, 11:20:17 PM
What was second prize?  Two drawings by Lithgow? Hehehehe.

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Post by: Jrand74 on April 09, 2005, 11:20:30 PM
Now I HAVE to go.
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Post by: bk on April 09, 2005, 11:22:21 PM
Out goes Company, and I go to the notes.
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Post by: Joey on April 09, 2005, 11:29:52 PM
Bedtime for me also. Goodnight everyone! Hope you have pleasant dreams involving shiny disco outfits and spandex! ;)
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Post by: Rodzinski on April 09, 2005, 11:32:49 PM
What else? Bk, you will be happy to know I watched the director's cut of THE CREATURE WASN'T NICE. Excellent. To me, it was about getting the extra little moments that are not in SPACESHIP, of which there are plenty. Whether it is John the Trainee getting lost in the halls or Rodzinski making some nutty comment, or the McDonalds thing, there was a lot of added value in this version.

I guess I can see where the SPACESHIP version is tighter at the beginning, but I think one also loses some subtle character development in that version. I definitely don't miss the Japanese movie inserts. One thing I realized is they actually contradict a major plot point, namely, the Doctor repeatedly claims that the creature is the first discovery of life on another planet, but in SPACESHIP, the computer knows the history of the planet, including various "mean dudes" who would qualify as known life forms.

I will say my one SPACESHIP preference is the computer voice, because it seems more substantial and more of a character, if not the grump you intended. While B. Crawford is good, it is hard to hear him at times, and the aloof SPACESHIP vox actually has some funny non-sequitirs not included here.

One question, if you recall: What does John's name tag read?
 
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Post by: Rodzinski on April 09, 2005, 11:34:12 PM
I arrive and everyone goes to sleep. Guess I just have that effect!
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Post by: Rodzinski on April 09, 2005, 11:40:49 PM
During SCOUNDRELS, there was actually an ugly cellphone moment where Butz interrupted some expository dialogue and said something like "Then I went to my hotel... but then I couldn't hear anything because somebody's cellphone was going off!" Loud applause, then it took a moment for him to remember where he was in the script. For a moment, one wondered if it was scripted, but it wasn't worth it as a gag to interrupt the flow. The unfortunate thing is they didn't make an announcement prior to the show, probably assuming people by now get the idea to turn off their phones. Alas, not.
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Post by: Rodzinski on April 09, 2005, 11:45:07 PM
What was second prize?  Two drawings by Lithgow? Hehehehe.



Ha! Really though, once people were bidding over 2 grand for something he just drew right in front of us onstage on a poster-sized canvas, they should have said both of the battling bidders win, and Lithgow could draw another quick caricature and make 4 grand out of it for the charity.