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Title: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: bk on July 14, 2020, 12:07:32 AM
Well, you've read the notes, the notes had music, man, and I, and now it is time for you to post until the musical cows come home.
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: bk on July 14, 2020, 12:08:14 AM
And the word of the day is: TUTELAGE!
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Post by: Jane on July 14, 2020, 12:12:05 AM
The news in Seattle is very sad.
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Post by: Jane on July 14, 2020, 12:16:40 AM
DR George it was nice of Larry to mail the packages and support USPS. I try to do the same.
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Post by: George on July 14, 2020, 12:46:37 AM
DR George it was nice of Larry to mail the packages and support USPS. I try to do the same.

Thanks, Jane.  I haven't had any need to mail any packages before this, but if I do, I'll use USPS, also.
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: George on July 14, 2020, 12:50:51 AM
Off to bed.

Have a good day, all!
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Post by: elmore3003 on July 14, 2020, 04:07:30 AM
Good morning, all!
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Post by: elmore3003 on July 14, 2020, 04:11:26 AM
DR TCB, the gunfire and shootings are absolutely terrible in NYC these days.  I have my theories, mostly involving GOP heads up NRA butts.  Or vice versa.
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: elmore3003 on July 14, 2020, 04:13:20 AM
This morning I have that important phone conversation postponed from yesterday, although I do not look forward to an hour-long conversation.
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Post by: elmore3003 on July 14, 2020, 04:24:23 AM
Annabelle's herpes flare-up is not yielding to the Lysine and it's really upsetting.  I'll spend some time today on the cat health sites.
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Post by: Laura on July 14, 2020, 04:58:42 AM
Good morning.
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: Laura on July 14, 2020, 05:02:58 AM
Continuing from yesterday.  Restaurants are still open. It's bars, gyms, and movie theaters that are closed.
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: Laura on July 14, 2020, 05:03:58 AM
I have tickets for Hamilton in October. I really really hope it is canceled, because there's no way I am going into a huge theater any time soon. I hate to lose that money.
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: ChasSmith on July 14, 2020, 05:23:44 AM
Good morning, all.
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: ChasSmith on July 14, 2020, 05:27:44 AM
Mayor Shinn:

It is if you want to go around in your drawers all day!

I couldn't make myself any plainer if I was a Quaker on his day off!

It's as clear as a buttonhook in the well water!

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Post by: elmore3003 on July 14, 2020, 05:40:25 AM
Kitty cleanup is over.  The cats got a new ball toy and Stella has gone insane over it.
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: ChasSmith on July 14, 2020, 05:41:07 AM
There might be more of that type of Shinn line I'm forgetting. And I believe that not all of these are in the stage play. Speaking of which, I've long thought that every single thing they added for the movie was an improvement. Nothing that they left out or altered comes to mind as anything but.

Including "Being in Love". I admit I first grew up on the movie soundtrack, so there's my handicap. But if nearly six decades haven't warmed me better to the "My White Night" verse, that just might be a lost cause for this Philistine.

In spite of the multitude of times I've seen the film, I'll have to watch with a score to review what they did with the dance music. "76" probably doesn't matter to me much. "Marian the Librarian" does, and I believe it's surprisingly intact, but not all the way (?). Also have to review the "It's You Ballet" because I don't even remember if they used anything of the original. Oh, and "Shipoopi" -- probably cut down some?
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: elmore3003 on July 14, 2020, 05:41:53 AM
I have a ton of things to tote to the basement this morning. I'll do that after I make the bed.
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Post by: ChasSmith on July 14, 2020, 05:44:28 AM
Oh--here's another, and I don't remember the whole line but I think this part is correct?

...or I'll by God horsewhip you till Hell won't have it again!
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: ChasSmith on July 14, 2020, 05:46:05 AM
And doesn't that lead into the Not one poop out of you, Madame! exchange?
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: John G. on July 14, 2020, 05:46:13 AM
Good morning, all.
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: ChasSmith on July 14, 2020, 05:46:48 AM
Okay, enough out of me. That's my dedication to Mayor Shinn and the one and only Paul Ford for the day.
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: John G. on July 14, 2020, 05:47:31 AM
I have tickets for Hamilton in October. I really really hope it is canceled, because there's no way I am going into a huge theater any time soon. I hate to lose that money.

I doubt that if Broadway isn’t reopening until next year that there will be tours happening at least until then.
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Post by: ChasSmith on July 14, 2020, 05:48:37 AM
BK, that's a remarkable picture of the market and five-and-dime. Where did you find it? If only we had pictures that clear of everything from our past.
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: ChasSmith on July 14, 2020, 05:50:57 AM
I have tickets for Hamilton in October. I really really hope it is canceled, because there's no way I am going into a huge theater any time soon. I hate to lose that money.

I doubt that if Broadway isn’t reopening until next year that there will be tours happening at least until then.

Even if it should somehow come to pass, could you sell the tickets once it's a sure thing?
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: elmore3003 on July 14, 2020, 05:51:45 AM
There might be more of that type of Shinn line I'm forgetting. And I believe that not all of these are in the stage play. Speaking of which, I've long thought that every single thing they added for the movie was an improvement. Nothing that they left out or altered comes to mind as anything but.

Including "Being in Love". I admit I first grew up on the movie soundtrack, so there's my handicap. But if nearly six decades haven't warmed me better to the "My White Night" verse, that just might be a lost cause for this Philistine.

In spite of the multitude of times I've seen the film, I'll have to watch with a score to review what they did with the dance music. "76" probably doesn't matter to me much. "Marian the Librarian" does, and I believe it's surprisingly intact, but not all the way (?). Also have to review the "It's You Ballet" because I don't even remember if they used anything of the original. Oh, and "Shipoopi" -- probably cut down some?

I love "My White Knight," but I really love the original version, which went through several revisions before it was cut down to popular song form.  I've heard both Barbara Cook and Rebecca Luker sing the "original version" and they are different!  There's a rumor that Frank Loesser wrote the song, but I believe Loesser, as the publisher of the score, is the person who whittled the number down to what now exists, and I'm not sure Meredith Willson was happy about that.

Here's Barbara Cook:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52HBYXmDIBM
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: ChasSmith on July 14, 2020, 06:07:15 AM
I wanted to report on yesterday morning's (or the night before's) dream, but I knew there was no way this one was leaving me so I procrastinated.

It was on the classic "being unprepared for a musical" theme, but with a twist:  This time I was neither playing piano or keyboards nor music directing. It was another production of A Chorus Line which I played last year, with the same MD (he was shockingly incapable) but with another MD/keyboard friend playing the keys this time, and I had somehow volunteered to play the oboe. Mind you, I've never even held an oboe in real life or even in the dream, and I can only blame Jason Graae's little performance Sunday evening for being the instigator of this abomination. Hell, I was even thinking of that high D at the end of his song right there in the dream, so there's no way he can wiggle out of this.

So that other keyboard friend had brought the oboe for me to use (he doesn't play or have one, either), and while the band was setting up for its first rehearsal (in somewhat the same location as last year's, except that this venue was in more like a covered tent outdoors), I was thinking to myself that I have to (1) somehow put the instrument together, reed and all, and (2) do my best to fake the fingering for today, till I can sit down with a book or something later and properly figure it out. This bravado was based on the fact that in real life, in high school, I taught myself the flute/piccolo notes and fingerings just for fun. But there's no rhyme or reason for this kind of bizarre variation on a typical dream theme, except, for Mr. Graae's audacity.

Finally, as all such dreams must, this one began going downhill fast, culminating with some gal (based on no one that I can recall) taking advantage of something that had distracted me, and stealing the oboe right out from under me. Thinking about it now, of course, I should be thanking her. Oy!
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Post by: ChasSmith on July 14, 2020, 06:12:20 AM
DR Elmore:  WOW!  I'd heard about the song going through changes, but had never heard any of it. That really is interesting, and very beautiful. Damn.

And yes, Frank Music Corp., publisher of those oddly unsatisfying piano reductions. Not that too many others were very much better back in that day.
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: ChasSmith on July 14, 2020, 06:16:33 AM
Saving that to listen to again later.
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: Druxy on July 14, 2020, 06:27:20 AM
"You've got to know the territory."
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: elmore3003 on July 14, 2020, 06:31:45 AM
I took all of what I could to the basement.  The cats had an old ball toy, very much like the new one, that they managed to trash over the past two years.  I couldn't cart that to the basement with everything else, so when I came up from the basement, I put the old ball toy into my recyclable bag to carry down later.  I just looked up to see Stella dragging the bag and toy across the kitchen floor.  Like Jenny, she doesn't know the meaning of the word "no."
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: elmore3003 on July 14, 2020, 06:32:48 AM
Page 2 Dance!
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Post by: Ginny on July 14, 2020, 07:35:57 AM
Tuesday morning greetings!  We have curbside pick-ups to do at the public library and Kroger today and then I have a Zoom event to hear a favorite author talk about her new book.
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: Ginny on July 14, 2020, 07:39:00 AM
TOD - As I've mentioned before, The Music Man was the first professional musical I saw on stage, so there's a very soft spot for it in my heart.  This line gets me every time:

"I always think there's a band, kid."
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Post by: elmore3003 on July 14, 2020, 07:42:08 AM
My phone call, which was about getting a young man or woman volunteer to come by and help me on occasion with household problems, went quite nicely.
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: elmore3003 on July 14, 2020, 07:43:34 AM
My fifth floor neighbor Ann, who was stuck in Boston since late March, is home.  She's stopping by at some point to pick up the mail I collected.  I'm looking forward to seeing her.
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: Jrand74 on July 14, 2020, 07:54:33 AM
I think Jayne Mansfield was most famous for her TUTELAGE.
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Post by: Jrand74 on July 14, 2020, 07:54:48 AM
DR JOHN G when it gets to 110 - SELL!
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Post by: Jrand74 on July 14, 2020, 07:59:27 AM
DR CHAS SMITH took my favorite Music Man lines.  I played Mayor Shinn in 2011 - and I loved every minute of it.

I will just add one more:

"Thanks for the buggy ride, I read that book from one end the other and didn't find a damn thing!"

AND:

"I better hear some by-God tooting out of them horns or I'll see you at the courthouse at the county theat....uh....seat.....yes!"

"The SWORD of retribution has cut down Perfessor Harold Hill!"



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Post by: Jrand74 on July 14, 2020, 07:59:47 AM
Or....more than one.....
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Post by: Jrand74 on July 14, 2020, 08:01:21 AM
"Ethel Toffelmeier....our fine player piano....player....piano.....player...."
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Post by: Jrand74 on July 14, 2020, 08:02:40 AM
"Will you members of the school board quit bickerin' in public."

"The ladies of the local wigwam of the Hee-awatha will present a spectacle my wife.....er.....in which my wife Eulalie McKechnie Shinn will take a leading role....."
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Post by: Jrand74 on July 14, 2020, 08:03:00 AM
I could do it again right now!!!!
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Post by: Jane on July 14, 2020, 08:11:07 AM
DR George it was nice of Larry to mail the packages and support USPS. I try to do the same.

Thanks, Jane.  I haven't had any need to mail any packages before this, but if I do, I'll use USPS, also.

I don't seem to mail package very often anymore.  I admit, if I need the package wrapped for me I go to the mail store and they use UPS.  That also doesn't happen very often.
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: Jane on July 14, 2020, 08:12:11 AM
I have tickets for Hamilton in October. I really really hope it is canceled, because there's no way I am going into a huge theater any time soon. I hate to lose that money.

If you can sell the tickets can you return them for a tax right off?
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: John G. on July 14, 2020, 08:47:43 AM
When you ask Alexa to play music, it’s always songs. I asked to hear some Samuel Barber this morning and it’s, “Now playing songs by Samuel Barber ...”
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: John G. on July 14, 2020, 08:49:14 AM
Wasn’t The Music Man the show that Jack Lemmon gets stood up for in The Apartment?
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Post by: John G. on July 14, 2020, 09:34:48 AM
Any Kaye Ballard fans who may not have seen this elsewhere:

https://www.kayeballardmovie.com/watch/?fbclid=IwAR185DwiRy5Gyu3tu5Ax4zIacIYAxYcjl0SLS7DxG0j3QkYRHYGKpz8JuAM:
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Post by: John G. on July 14, 2020, 09:35:06 AM
Happy Bastille Day!
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Post by: Laura on July 14, 2020, 10:20:31 AM
They canceled Hadestown and rescheduled Mean Girls. Everything else is still on. It's going to be a show by show basis, depending on whether the tour itself is canceled.
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: KevinH on July 14, 2020, 10:45:21 AM
Good afternoon!
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Post by: KevinH on July 14, 2020, 10:47:48 AM
There might be more of that type of Shinn line I'm forgetting. And I believe that not all of these are in the stage play. Speaking of which, I've long thought that every single thing they added for the movie was an improvement. Nothing that they left out or altered comes to mind as anything but.

Including "Being in Love". I admit I first grew up on the movie soundtrack, so there's my handicap. But if nearly six decades haven't warmed me better to the "My White Night" verse, that just might be a lost cause for this Philistine.

In spite of the multitude of times I've seen the film, I'll have to watch with a score to review what they did with the dance music. "76" probably doesn't matter to me much. "Marian the Librarian" does, and I believe it's surprisingly intact, but not all the way (?). Also have to review the "It's You Ballet" because I don't even remember if they used anything of the original. Oh, and "Shipoopi" -- probably cut down some?

I love "My White Knight," but I really love the original version, which went through several revisions before it was cut down to popular song form.  I've heard both Barbara Cook and Rebecca Luker sing the "original version" and they are different!  There's a rumor that Frank Loesser wrote the song, but I believe Loesser, as the publisher of the score, is the person who whittled the number down to what now exists, and I'm not sure Meredith Willson was happy about that.

Here's Barbara Cook:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52HBYXmDIBM




Thanks, DR elmore.  I enjoyed that.  I heard Rebecca Luker sing the long version at 54 Below a few years ago and thought she was wonderful!
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: John G. on July 14, 2020, 11:32:31 AM
They canceled Hadestown and rescheduled Mean Girls. Everything else is still on. It's going to be a show by show basis, depending on whether the tour itself is canceled.

Wow.
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Post by: John G. on July 14, 2020, 11:38:02 AM
There might be more of that type of Shinn line I'm forgetting. And I believe that not all of these are in the stage play. Speaking of which, I've long thought that every single thing they added for the movie was an improvement. Nothing that they left out or altered comes to mind as anything but.

Including "Being in Love". I admit I first grew up on the movie soundtrack, so there's my handicap. But if nearly six decades haven't warmed me better to the "My White Night" verse, that just might be a lost cause for this Philistine.

In spite of the multitude of times I've seen the film, I'll have to watch with a score to review what they did with the dance music. "76" probably doesn't matter to me much. "Marian the Librarian" does, and I believe it's surprisingly intact, but not all the way (?). Also have to review the "It's You Ballet" because I don't even remember if they used anything of the original. Oh, and "Shipoopi" -- probably cut down some?

I love "My White Knight," but I really love the original version, which went through several revisions before it was cut down to popular song form.  I've heard both Barbara Cook and Rebecca Luker sing the "original version" and they are different!  There's a rumor that Frank Loesser wrote the song, but I believe Loesser, as the publisher of the score, is the person who whittled the number down to what now exists, and I'm not sure Meredith Willson was happy about that.

Here's Barbara Cook:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52HBYXmDIBM




Thanks, DR elmore.  I enjoyed that.  I heard Rebecca Luker sing the long version at 54 Below a few years ago and thought she was wonderful!

Ya had me at those three glorious words: Here’s Barbara Cook.
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: George on July 14, 2020, 11:42:47 AM
Annabelle's herpes flare-up is not yielding to the Lysine and it's really upsetting.  I'll spend some time today on the cat health sites.

~~~Get Well Vibes for Annabelle!!~~~
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: George on July 14, 2020, 11:43:05 AM
I have tickets for Hamilton in October. I really really hope it is canceled, because there's no way I am going into a huge theater any time soon. I hate to lose that money.

My friend Margo and I just got tickets for the Hamilton tour, but it's not coming to Seattle until May 2021, so hopefully, it'll all be good by then. :-\
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Post by: George on July 14, 2020, 11:43:32 AM
There might be more of that type of Shinn line I'm forgetting. And I believe that not all of these are in the stage play. Speaking of which, I've long thought that every single thing they added for the movie was an improvement. Nothing that they left out or altered comes to mind as anything but.

Including "Being in Love". I admit I first grew up on the movie soundtrack, so there's my handicap. But if nearly six decades haven't warmed me better to the "My White Night" verse, that just might be a lost cause for this Philistine.

In spite of the multitude of times I've seen the film, I'll have to watch with a score to review what they did with the dance music. "76" probably doesn't matter to me much. "Marian the Librarian" does, and I believe it's surprisingly intact, but not all the way (?). Also have to review the "It's You Ballet" because I don't even remember if they used anything of the original. Oh, and "Shipoopi" -- probably cut down some?

I have this vague memory of reading that one reason that "My White Knight" wasn't in the movie was because Meredith Willson didn't actually write it?  Or was it that "Being In Love" in the movie wasn't written by him.  I don't remember now. ::)
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: bk on July 14, 2020, 11:45:58 AM
I'm up, I'm up - seven hours of sleep or thereabouts.
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Post by: elmore3003 on July 14, 2020, 11:56:48 AM
There might be more of that type of Shinn line I'm forgetting. And I believe that not all of these are in the stage play. Speaking of which, I've long thought that every single thing they added for the movie was an improvement. Nothing that they left out or altered comes to mind as anything but.

Including "Being in Love". I admit I first grew up on the movie soundtrack, so there's my handicap. But if nearly six decades haven't warmed me better to the "My White Night" verse, that just might be a lost cause for this Philistine.

In spite of the multitude of times I've seen the film, I'll have to watch with a score to review what they did with the dance music. "76" probably doesn't matter to me much. "Marian the Librarian" does, and I believe it's surprisingly intact, but not all the way (?). Also have to review the "It's You Ballet" because I don't even remember if they used anything of the original. Oh, and "Shipoopi" -- probably cut down some?

I have this vague memory of reading that one reason that "My White Knight" wasn't in the movie was because Meredith Willson didn't actually write it?  Or was it that "Being In Love" in the movie wasn't written by him.  I don't remember now. ::)

The rumor that Frank Loesser wrote "My White Knight" has been around for years.  When you hear the original version, it's very clear that Meredith Willson wrote it.  In his book about writing The Music Man, But He Doesn't Know the Territory, Willson says he didn't realize until Barbara Cook sang "My White Knight" at the first preview that Marian Paroo was based on his mother.  He also quotes the original version in the book, but he never says a thing about its getting truncated.
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Post by: elmore3003 on July 14, 2020, 11:59:15 AM
Well, let's get to Page 3, shall we?
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Post by: elmore3003 on July 14, 2020, 12:01:10 PM
Page 3 Dance!
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Post by: elmore3003 on July 14, 2020, 12:01:54 PM
No word from my neighbor Ann.  Curiouser and curiouser.
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Post by: bk on July 14, 2020, 12:03:00 PM
All I can say is, in the world in which we live today, just waiting on the cancel culture to make a thing of My White Knight.  Mark my words. 
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Post by: George on July 14, 2020, 12:20:20 PM
There might be more of that type of Shinn line I'm forgetting. And I believe that not all of these are in the stage play. Speaking of which, I've long thought that every single thing they added for the movie was an improvement. Nothing that they left out or altered comes to mind as anything but.

Including "Being in Love". I admit I first grew up on the movie soundtrack, so there's my handicap. But if nearly six decades haven't warmed me better to the "My White Night" verse, that just might be a lost cause for this Philistine.

In spite of the multitude of times I've seen the film, I'll have to watch with a score to review what they did with the dance music. "76" probably doesn't matter to me much. "Marian the Librarian" does, and I believe it's surprisingly intact, but not all the way (?). Also have to review the "It's You Ballet" because I don't even remember if they used anything of the original. Oh, and "Shipoopi" -- probably cut down some?

I have this vague memory of reading that one reason that "My White Knight" wasn't in the movie was because Meredith Willson didn't actually write it?  Or was it that "Being In Love" in the movie wasn't written by him.  I don't remember now. ::)

The rumor that Frank Loesser wrote "My White Knight" has been around for years.  When you hear the original version, it's very clear that Meredith Willson wrote it.  In his book about writing The Music Man, But He Doesn't Know the Territory, Willson says he didn't realize until Barbara Cook sang "My White Knight" at the first preview that Marian Paroo was based on his mother.  He also quotes the original version in the book. but he never says a thing about its getting truncated.

Ahh...thanks for the info, Larry!
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: ChasSmith on July 14, 2020, 12:23:32 PM
I have the Meredith Willson book, but hadn't remembered all of that about "Knight".
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Post by: elmore3003 on July 14, 2020, 12:59:07 PM
There might be more of that type of Shinn line I'm forgetting. And I believe that not all of these are in the stage play. Speaking of which, I've long thought that every single thing they added for the movie was an improvement. Nothing that they left out or altered comes to mind as anything but.

Including "Being in Love". I admit I first grew up on the movie soundtrack, so there's my handicap. But if nearly six decades haven't warmed me better to the "My White Night" verse, that just might be a lost cause for this Philistine.

In spite of the multitude of times I've seen the film, I'll have to watch with a score to review what they did with the dance music. "76" probably doesn't matter to me much. "Marian the Librarian" does, and I believe it's surprisingly intact, but not all the way (?). Also have to review the "It's You Ballet" because I don't even remember if they used anything of the original. Oh, and "Shipoopi" -- probably cut down some?

I have this vague memory of reading that one reason that "My White Knight" wasn't in the movie was because Meredith Willson didn't actually write it?  Or was it that "Being In Love" in the movie wasn't written by him.  I don't remember now. ::)

The rumor that Frank Loesser wrote "My White Knight" has been around for years.  When you hear the original version, it's very clear that Meredith Willson wrote it.  In his book about writing The Music Man, But He Doesn't Know the Territory, Willson says he didn't realize until Barbara Cook sang "My White Knight" at the first preview that Marian Paroo was based on his mother.  He also quotes the original version in the book, but he never says a thing about its getting truncated.

Ahh...thanks for the info, Larry!

You're welcome.  I'm surprised you don't own the book!
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: elmore3003 on July 14, 2020, 01:01:34 PM
It's still in print.
https://www.amazon.com/But-He-Doesnt-Know-Territory/dp/0816667705/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=meredith+willson&qid=1594756821&sr=8-1
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Post by: elmore3003 on July 14, 2020, 01:10:13 PM
I got my copy in a curious way.  I checked the book out of my public library several times when I was in high school and it was first published.  About twenty years ago, when I was visiting family and friends in Ohio, I checked the library shelf, and I was surprised to find it still on the shelf.  I had been the last person to check the book out around 1966!  No one had looked at the book in over 30 years, so I asked my late friend Alan Freeman if he would get the book, report it lost, and I would pay all the fees.  Not long after that the book arrived in Manhattan.  When I tried to reimburse Alan, he wouldn't take my money.
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: George on July 14, 2020, 01:12:54 PM
It's still in print.
https://www.amazon.com/But-He-Doesnt-Know-Territory/dp/0816667705/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=meredith+willson&qid=1594756821&sr=8-1

Fine...I just bought it. ;D
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: George on July 14, 2020, 01:13:15 PM
And just because, I also bought And There I Stood with My Piccolo (https://www.amazon.com/dp/0816667691/).  Both new. :)
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: George on July 14, 2020, 01:13:31 PM
I got my copy in a curious way.  I checked the book out of my public library several times when I was in high school and it was first published.  About twenty years ago, when I was visiting family and friends in Ohio, I checked the library shelf, and I was surprised to find it still on the shelf.  I had been the last person to check the book out around 1966!  No one had looked at the book in over 30 years, so I asked my late friend Alan Freeman if he would get the book, report it lost, and I would pay all the fees.  Not long after that the book arrived in Manhattan.  When I tried to reimburse Alan, he wouldn't take my money.

That's a pretty cool story, Larry!
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Post by: George on July 14, 2020, 01:13:56 PM
There might be more of that type of Shinn line I'm forgetting. And I believe that not all of these are in the stage play. Speaking of which, I've long thought that every single thing they added for the movie was an improvement. Nothing that they left out or altered comes to mind as anything but.

Including "Being in Love". I admit I first grew up on the movie soundtrack, so there's my handicap. But if nearly six decades haven't warmed me better to the "My White Night" verse, that just might be a lost cause for this Philistine.

In spite of the multitude of times I've seen the film, I'll have to watch with a score to review what they did with the dance music. "76" probably doesn't matter to me much. "Marian the Librarian" does, and I believe it's surprisingly intact, but not all the way (?). Also have to review the "It's You Ballet" because I don't even remember if they used anything of the original. Oh, and "Shipoopi" -- probably cut down some?

I love "My White Knight," but I really love the original version, which went through several revisions before it was cut down to popular song form.  I've heard both Barbara Cook and Rebecca Luker sing the "original version" and they are different!  There's a rumor that Frank Loesser wrote the song, but I believe Loesser, as the publisher of the score, is the person who whittled the number down to what now exists, and I'm not sure Meredith Willson was happy about that.

Here's Barbara Cook:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52HBYXmDIBM

I love it!  And here is Barbara Cook singing a medley from "The Music Man" on the Bell Telephone Hour, 1960:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BWLRymSsCU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BWLRymSsCU)
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Post by: George on July 14, 2020, 01:14:29 PM
My phone call, which was about getting a young man or woman volunteer to come by and help me on occasion with household problems, went quite nicely.

Good!
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Post by: ChasSmith on July 14, 2020, 01:34:04 PM
Great story about the book, DR Elmore!
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Post by: John G. on July 14, 2020, 01:52:27 PM
It is a great story, Elmore.
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Post by: elmore3003 on July 14, 2020, 01:55:56 PM
And just because, I also bought And There I Stood with My Piccolo (https://www.amazon.com/dp/0816667691/).  Both new. :)

Well, that'll show me! :)
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Post by: elmore3003 on July 14, 2020, 02:00:22 PM
My neighbor Ann just left.  I am so happy she's back in town.
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Post by: bk on July 14, 2020, 02:15:22 PM
Zoom went well and was fun, picked up a package, and am awaiting lunch.
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Post by: bk on July 14, 2020, 02:16:01 PM
I had to search for a while, but I managed to get a signed first edition of But He Doesn't Know the Territory two decades ago - wonderful book.
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Post by: Jrand74 on July 14, 2020, 02:16:45 PM
Back From Boston.
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Post by: Jrand74 on July 14, 2020, 02:17:18 PM
Yes DR JOHN G  it is The Music Man in The Apartment.

I enjoyed BOTH of the Willson books very much.
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Post by: Jrand74 on July 14, 2020, 02:19:01 PM
Episode 5 of Conversations With Jack is on the website.....I talk to Miss Peggy McClaine who is most entertaining.

If one is interested....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm4tMhzAGSA
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Post by: Ginny on July 14, 2020, 02:38:46 PM
I got my copy in a curious way.  I checked the book out of my public library several times when I was in high school and it was first published.  About twenty years ago, when I was visiting family and friends in Ohio, I checked the library shelf, and I was surprised to find it still on the shelf.  I had been the last person to check the book out around 1966!  No one had looked at the book in over 30 years, so I asked my late friend Alan Freeman if he would get the book, report it lost, and I would pay all the fees.  Not long after that the book arrived in Manhattan.  When I tried to reimburse Alan, he wouldn't take my money.

I’m going to pretend I didn’t hear this  :-*
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Post by: Laura on July 14, 2020, 02:43:16 PM
Good afternoon.
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Post by: ChasSmith on July 14, 2020, 02:44:21 PM
I got my copy in a curious way.  I checked the book out of my public library several times when I was in high school and it was first published.  About twenty years ago, when I was visiting family and friends in Ohio, I checked the library shelf, and I was surprised to find it still on the shelf.  I had been the last person to check the book out around 1966!  No one had looked at the book in over 30 years, so I asked my late friend Alan Freeman if he would get the book, report it lost, and I would pay all the fees.  Not long after that the book arrived in Manhattan.  When I tried to reimburse Alan, he wouldn't take my money.

I’m going to pretend I didn’t hear this  :-*

I’m going to pretend I don’t have anything from my own past to add to this.
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: Laura on July 14, 2020, 02:44:52 PM
Our refrigerator is on the blink.  We called yesterday; the repairman came today. He doesn't have the part, so he will be back on Thursday to fix it.
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Post by: Laura on July 14, 2020, 02:45:37 PM
The freezer is cold, so at least the frozen meat will be ok. The refrigerator part doesn't get cold.
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: ChasSmith on July 14, 2020, 02:49:26 PM
Episode 5 of Conversations With Jack is on the website.....I talk to Miss Peggy McClaine who is most entertaining.

If one is interested....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm4tMhzAGSA

I don’t want to speak prematurely, DR Jrand69, but have there been any hints regarding possible
Tony honors? Perhaps an Emmy mention?
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Post by: ChasSmith on July 14, 2020, 02:51:13 PM
Good luck on the fridge fix, DR Laura. Is it under warranty by any chance?
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Post by: Ginny on July 14, 2020, 03:01:01 PM
I got my copy in a curious way.  I checked the book out of my public library several times when I was in high school and it was first published.  About twenty years ago, when I was visiting family and friends in Ohio, I checked the library shelf, and I was surprised to find it still on the shelf.  I had been the last person to check the book out around 1966!  No one had looked at the book in over 30 years, so I asked my late friend Alan Freeman if he would get the book, report it lost, and I would pay all the fees.  Not long after that the book arrived in Manhattan.  When I tried to reimburse Alan, he wouldn't take my money.

I’m going to pretend I didn’t hear this  :-*

I’m going to pretend I don’t have anything from my own past to add to this.

 :D
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Post by: ChasSmith on July 14, 2020, 03:06:21 PM
I might watch the Met’s Traviata tonight.

It’s Wozzeck on Thursday, for sure.

On Sunday, a Teresa Stratas Boheme will be tempting.
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Post by: Jrand74 on July 14, 2020, 03:06:50 PM
LOL DR CHAS SMITH - I am waiting for the call from CBS Sunday Morning.....

Miss Peggy and I in The Prisoner of Second Avenue in 1990....it was much fun...

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/107665574_10223810759722123_5047327962178014909_o.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_sid=1480c5&_nc_ohc=HRXFFnNbDAAAX91P4Dr&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-1.xx&_nc_tp=7&oh=1fdf91092137decd96dc089b76d8af14&oe=5F327E40)
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: Jane on July 14, 2020, 03:20:28 PM
I have tickets for Hamilton in October. I really really hope it is canceled, because there's no way I am going into a huge theater any time soon. I hate to lose that money.

My friend Margo and I just got tickets for the Hamilton tour, but it's not coming to Seattle until May 2021, so hopefully, it'll all be good by then. :-\

I hope so, fear not but hope so.
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Post by: John G. on July 14, 2020, 03:21:06 PM
Great photo, Jack.
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Post by: Jane on July 14, 2020, 03:22:19 PM
I got my copy in a curious way.  I checked the book out of my public library several times when I was in high school and it was first published.  About twenty years ago, when I was visiting family and friends in Ohio, I checked the library shelf, and I was surprised to find it still on the shelf.  I had been the last person to check the book out around 1966!  No one had looked at the book in over 30 years, so I asked my late friend Alan Freeman if he would get the book, report it lost, and I would pay all the fees.  Not long after that the book arrived in Manhattan.  When I tried to reimburse Alan, he wouldn't take my money.

I’m going to pretend I didn’t hear this  :-*

;D
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: Jane on July 14, 2020, 03:22:39 PM
I got my copy in a curious way.  I checked the book out of my public library several times when I was in high school and it was first published.  About twenty years ago, when I was visiting family and friends in Ohio, I checked the library shelf, and I was surprised to find it still on the shelf.  I had been the last person to check the book out around 1966!  No one had looked at the book in over 30 years, so I asked my late friend Alan Freeman if he would get the book, report it lost, and I would pay all the fees.  Not long after that the book arrived in Manhattan.  When I tried to reimburse Alan, he wouldn't take my money.

I’m going to pretend I didn’t hear this  :-*

I’m going to pretend I don’t have anything from my own past to add to this.

;D
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: Jane on July 14, 2020, 03:23:13 PM
Our refrigerator is on the blink.  We called yesterday; the repairman came today. He doesn't have the part, so he will be back on Thursday to fix it.

Oh no.
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Post by: Jane on July 14, 2020, 03:23:33 PM
The freezer is cold, so at least the frozen meat will be ok. The refrigerator part doesn't get cold.

That's a relief.  Can you eat the rest fast enough ;)
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Post by: Jane on July 14, 2020, 03:24:26 PM
Nice pic DR Jrand.
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Post by: John G. on July 14, 2020, 03:24:48 PM
Getting ready to start Vanessa. It's got, you know, songs by Samuel Barber in it.
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Post by: George on July 14, 2020, 03:52:15 PM
Gratuitous Post #100!
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Post by: George on July 14, 2020, 03:52:29 PM
I got my copy in a curious way.  I checked the book out of my public library several times when I was in high school and it was first published.  About twenty years ago, when I was visiting family and friends in Ohio, I checked the library shelf, and I was surprised to find it still on the shelf.  I had been the last person to check the book out around 1966!  No one had looked at the book in over 30 years, so I asked my late friend Alan Freeman if he would get the book, report it lost, and I would pay all the fees.  Not long after that the book arrived in Manhattan.  When I tried to reimburse Alan, he wouldn't take my money.

I’m going to pretend I didn’t hear this  :-*

When I was going to Western Washington University, the public library had signs saying that doing this was actually a misdemeanor. ::)
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Post by: George on July 14, 2020, 03:52:41 PM
LOL DR CHAS SMITH - I am waiting for the call from CBS Sunday Morning.....

Miss Peggy and I in The Prisoner of Second Avenue in 1990....it was much fun...

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/107665574_10223810759722123_5047327962178014909_o.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_sid=1480c5&_nc_ohc=HRXFFnNbDAAAX91P4Dr&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-1.xx&_nc_tp=7&oh=1fdf91092137decd96dc089b76d8af14&oe=5F327E40)

Great picture, Jrand!
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Post by: Jrand74 on July 14, 2020, 04:06:33 PM
thanks DR GEORGE, DR JOHN G, and DR JANE.....being on the front page of the local paper is always fun.....even back in 1990.
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Post by: Jrand74 on July 14, 2020, 04:08:35 PM
MR BK - I sent the Kritzerland link for the purchase of My World..... to my friend Stephanie Allen to order for her daughter Emery.

They loved the video of Sami singing "Annie" - so if you could autograph it to her with a couple of words, she would be thrilled, I'm sure.....I'm not sure when/if she'll order it, but I would guess soon.....
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Post by: bk on July 14, 2020, 04:10:34 PM
I will for sure.
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Post by: bk on July 14, 2020, 04:12:25 PM
Just had the best food in ages from Daughter's Deli - took an extra hour to arrive but worth it.  The potato pancakes were small, unlike Langer's, but there were three so it was like eating one regular Langer's potato pancake.  They were great.  But it was the sandwich - basically it was the pastrami with cole slaw and Russian dressing but with turkey instead and a slice of Swiss cheese.  It was phenomenal. 
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Post by: ChasSmith on July 14, 2020, 04:14:38 PM
Well damn it to HELL that sounds great.

And I just ate and am stuffed. Couldn’t eat a bite.
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Post by: George on July 14, 2020, 04:59:01 PM
Any Kaye Ballard fans who may not have seen this elsewhere:

https://www.kayeballardmovie.com/watch/?fbclid=IwAR185DwiRy5Gyu3tu5Ax4zIacIYAxYcjl0SLS7DxG0j3QkYRHYGKpz8JuAM:

This is just about to start!  I'll be watching this here at work. :)
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: Jane on July 14, 2020, 05:01:35 PM
I got my copy in a curious way.  I checked the book out of my public library several times when I was in high school and it was first published.  About twenty years ago, when I was visiting family and friends in Ohio, I checked the library shelf, and I was surprised to find it still on the shelf.  I had been the last person to check the book out around 1966!  No one had looked at the book in over 30 years, so I asked my late friend Alan Freeman if he would get the book, report it lost, and I would pay all the fees.  Not long after that the book arrived in Manhattan.  When I tried to reimburse Alan, he wouldn't take my money.

I’m going to pretend I didn’t hear this  :-*

When I was going to Western Washington University, the public library had signs saying that doing this was actually a misdemeanor. ::)

Interesting.
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: Jane on July 14, 2020, 05:04:26 PM
thanks DR GEORGE, DR JOHN G, and DR JANE.....being on the front page of the local paper is always fun.....even back in 1990.

I wouldn't know about that ')

We do have a photo of when Craig was front and center in the local paper.  He was 2 or 3 and the teacher was reading to his class.  Keith found it recently and framed it.
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Post by: Jane on July 14, 2020, 05:05:46 PM
Just had the best food in ages from Daughter's Deli - took an extra hour to arrive but worth it.  The potato pancakes were small, unlike Langer's, but there were three so it was like eating one regular Langer's potato pancake.  They were great.  But it was the sandwich - basically it was the pastrami with cole slaw and Russian dressing but with turkey instead and a slice of Swiss cheese.  It was phenomenal. 

Is this a new deli?  I am glad you enjoyed your meal.
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Post by: Jane on July 14, 2020, 05:07:15 PM
I looked at the menu.  The cheesecake sounds interesting and worth a try.
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Post by: Jane on July 14, 2020, 05:08:40 PM
I like the story of why it is called Daughter's Deli.
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Post by: vixmom on July 14, 2020, 05:29:41 PM
Our local library purges booms every so often if they haven’t been taken out in a long while
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Post by: vixmom on July 14, 2020, 05:31:27 PM
I’m not sure if the exact criteria but once they’ve been marked “discard” they’re put on the for sale cart
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Post by: vixmom on July 14, 2020, 05:31:55 PM
Soft covers are ten cents, hard covers a quarter
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Post by: vixmom on July 14, 2020, 05:32:26 PM
I have a huge number of favorite books I purchased from that cart
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Post by: vixmom on July 14, 2020, 05:32:57 PM
Well it’s after 8:30 time to make dinner
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Post by: vixmom on July 14, 2020, 06:27:48 PM
Well dinners made, and et
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Post by: vixmom on July 14, 2020, 06:28:31 PM
Cheeseburgers and corn on the cob from the farm down the block
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Post by: vixmom on July 14, 2020, 06:32:24 PM
Vixdad had hydroponic baby bib lettuce, onion and tomatoes (from the farm) on his
 and extra sharp NY cheddar on his
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Post by: vixmom on July 14, 2020, 06:32:43 PM
I just had Muenster cheese and some mayo on mine
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Post by: Jane on July 14, 2020, 06:40:04 PM
I have a huge number of favorite books I purchased from that cart

I have seen those carts at various libraries where we have lived.  Only once did I purchase a book so I could read it.
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Post by: John G. on July 14, 2020, 06:42:05 PM
Any Kaye Ballard fans who may not have seen this elsewhere:

https://www.kayeballardmovie.com/watch/?fbclid=IwAR185DwiRy5Gyu3tu5Ax4zIacIYAxYcjl0SLS7DxG0j3QkYRHYGKpz8JuAM:

This is just about to start!  I'll be watching this here at work. :)

I missed the beginning, but I really enjoyed what I saw. I won't call it a great documentary, but I loved Kaye Ballard madly, to quote Bernie Koppell quoting Duke Ellington.
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Post by: bk on July 14, 2020, 06:45:20 PM
Missed the first thirty minutes due to brain not working.
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Post by: bk on July 14, 2020, 06:45:56 PM
It was enjoyable but not great.  And am I wrong or did it just sort of stop without a real ending?
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Post by: George on July 14, 2020, 06:54:55 PM
I enjoyed it.  I loved just listening to her stories. :)
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Post by: George on July 14, 2020, 07:13:24 PM
And now, it's time for me to leave work and head home. 

Be back later.
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Post by: TCB on July 14, 2020, 07:17:10 PM
Jeely Kly!
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Post by: John G. on July 14, 2020, 07:30:45 PM
It was enjoyable but not great.  And am I wrong or did it just sort of stop without a real ending?

It did just sort of stop.

What I didn't care for was why Hal Prince, who praised her to the skies, never used her in anything. Did he think she'd turn into Zero Mostel or something?
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Post by: John G. on July 14, 2020, 07:32:42 PM
I enjoyed it.  I loved just listening to her stories. :)

And seeing some of the clips from Gary Moore and old shows.

I wish they had shown more of her Broadway Baby, which is incredible. There was such joy on her face as she sang that it seemed a shame we couldn't hear her just because Donna McKechnie was talking.
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Post by: John G. on July 14, 2020, 07:34:43 PM
Watching the second act of Vanessa now. Weird opera. I like the music, but all the alleged incest is rather icky.
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Post by: Jane on July 14, 2020, 07:50:52 PM
We are watching THE ODD COUPLE,  1968 movie.  It has been awhile since we have seen it.  I forgot how much fun it is.
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Post by: John G. on July 14, 2020, 08:05:36 PM
Good night, all.
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Post by: bk on July 14, 2020, 09:38:03 PM
Finished with my viewing.
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Post by: Jane on July 14, 2020, 10:26:34 PM
I have another early morning appointment.
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Post by: Jane on July 14, 2020, 10:27:09 PM
That's 3 days in a row  :o
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Post by: Jane on July 14, 2020, 10:27:26 PM
'night
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Post by: TCB on July 14, 2020, 11:22:04 PM
TOD - As I've mentioned before, The Music Man was the first professional musical I saw on stage, so there's a very soft spot for it in my heart.  This line gets me every time:

"I always think there's a band, kid."


And THE MUSIC MAN was the first musical I ever did onstage.
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Post by: TCB on July 14, 2020, 11:24:38 PM
There might be more of that type of Shinn line I'm forgetting. And I believe that not all of these are in the stage play. Speaking of which, I've long thought that every single thing they added for the movie was an improvement. Nothing that they left out or altered comes to mind as anything but.

Including "Being in Love". I admit I first grew up on the movie soundtrack, so there's my handicap. But if nearly six decades haven't warmed me better to the "My White Night" verse, that just might be a lost cause for this Philistine.

In spite of the multitude of times I've seen the film, I'll have to watch with a score to review what they did with the dance music. "76" probably doesn't matter to me much. "Marian the Librarian" does, and I believe it's surprisingly intact, but not all the way (?). Also have to review the "It's You Ballet" because I don't even remember if they used anything of the original. Oh, and "Shipoopi" -- probably cut down some?


What is the “It’s You ballet”?
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Post by: TCB on July 14, 2020, 11:26:48 PM
I only remember doing three dance numbers in the show:

Trombones in the gym
Marian the Librarian
Shipoopi
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Post by: TCB on July 14, 2020, 11:27:25 PM
Of course that was over 50 years ago, so what do I know?
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: TCB on July 14, 2020, 11:28:56 PM
Of course, at the time I was still pissed that they hadn’t done the show five years earlier, so I could have played Winthrop.
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Post by: TCB on July 14, 2020, 11:32:53 PM
Cheeseburgers and corn on the cob from the farm down the block


They grow cheeseburgers on that farm?
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Post by: George on July 14, 2020, 11:35:53 PM
Hi, Tom.
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Post by: George on July 14, 2020, 11:36:07 PM
Cheeseburgers and corn on the cob from the farm down the block


They grow cheeseburgers on that farm?

:))
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Post by: TCB on July 14, 2020, 11:40:37 PM
I have got to stop watching the local newscasts, or I am going to give myself a stroke.  These effen teenagers going on about how this pandemic is a joke.  How they are not going to pay attention to it, if they decide to backtrack to Phase One!

God!!  How stupid can these people be?
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Post by: TCB on July 14, 2020, 11:41:09 PM
Hello, George.
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Post by: George on July 14, 2020, 11:43:49 PM
I have got to stop watching the local newscasts, or I am going to give myself a stroke.  These effen teenagers going on about how this pandemic is a joke.  How they are not going to pay attention to it, if they decide to backtrack to Phase One!

God!!  How stupid can these people be?

Darwin Award Self-Nominees. ::)
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Post by: George on July 14, 2020, 11:46:55 PM
 
six!!!
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Post by: TCB on July 15, 2020, 12:06:12 AM
I just can’t get over these stupid punks.  There must have been 100 of these yo-yos, keeping possibly six inches between each other.
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Post by: TCB on July 15, 2020, 12:07:01 AM
Well, I am going to go kick the dog, and then go to bed.
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: TCB on July 15, 2020, 12:07:17 AM
Good night, George.
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Post by: Jane on July 15, 2020, 12:11:40 AM
I have got to stop watching the local newscasts, or I am going to give myself a stroke.  These effen teenagers going on about how this pandemic is a joke.  How they are not going to pay attention to it, if they decide to backtrack to Phase One!

God!!  How stupid can these people be?

:(  >:( :(
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: George on July 15, 2020, 12:12:59 AM
Good night, George.

Good night, Tom.
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: George on July 15, 2020, 12:13:14 AM
I have got to stop watching the local newscasts, or I am going to give myself a stroke.  These effen teenagers going on about how this pandemic is a joke.  How they are not going to pay attention to it, if they decide to backtrack to Phase One!

God!!  How stupid can these people be?

:(  >:( :(

Exactly!
Title: Re: THE MUSIC MAN AND I
Post by: bk on July 15, 2020, 12:13:16 AM
What they call the "It's You" ballet is just the bit of dancing that occurs while Harold waits for Marian at the footbridge.