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Title: THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: bk on May 12, 2005, 12:12:56 AM
Well, you've read the notes, you know the dictum, the dictum knows you, and now it is time for you to post until the cows come home and they WILL be coming home because they also have a new dictum and it is to get the HELL home.
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: bk on May 12, 2005, 12:15:31 AM
And the word of the day is: TRUCULENT!

And TRUCULENT is my current mood as regards the errant and truant, so WATCH OUT.  I am feeling quite volatile right now, oh, yes, I am feeling quite volatile, and when I am feeling quite volatile there is no telling what I might or might not do.
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: Tomovoz on May 12, 2005, 12:40:44 AM
Historical novels:  Doctorow's "Ragtime", "Loon Lake", etc. His books about the  mid twentieth century are excellent too. "The Book Of Daniel" and "World's Fair" are wonderful also.
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: Iris* on May 12, 2005, 12:44:30 AM
Well, I have absolutely no desire to visit Palookaville, no, none whatsoever, so here I am to pull my weight, tote that barge, etc. etc.

Yesterday afternoon, I heard very loud rock music across the street. I thought someone had a car stereo at a ridiculously high level, blasting out "Start Me Up" by the Rolling Stones. When I stepped out on my balcony to see who the idiot was, I was amazed to see limos, police, and news crews up and down the street. Turns out, THE ROLLING STONES were actually live and in person, on a balcony above 65th St. at Lincoln Center. They also performed "Brown Sugar" and a new song from their new album. That's how they announced their upcoming world tour!
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: Iris* on May 12, 2005, 12:47:01 AM
Anyone else going to see Drat! the Cat! at Musicals Tonight this evening? Love the BK produced studio cast recording.
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: bk on May 12, 2005, 12:52:25 AM
I have heard tell that it is not done very well (Drat! The Cat!).  It's a star vehicle and for some reason this cast features no one I've ever heard of, and has only piano accompaniment, if I've heard correctly.  This show cannot work well like that - it was not designed to be that.
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: bk on May 12, 2005, 12:52:42 AM
TRUCULENT, baby, TRUCULENT!
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: bk on May 12, 2005, 12:53:03 AM
Has anyone seen the made for TV Harry Palmer movies?  I didn't know they existed.
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: Iris* on May 12, 2005, 01:06:26 AM
Historical novels:

Hawaii by James Michener
Trinity by Leon Uris
Shogun by James Clavell
Gone With The Wind by Margaret Mitchell
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: Iris* on May 12, 2005, 01:09:09 AM
Sorry to hear about Drat! The Cat!
Well, I've got tickets, so I'm going.

TRUCULENT!
And now, Dino on the piano.

Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: bk on May 12, 2005, 01:15:32 AM
Dino ON the piano?  Hmmm.  Who's playing for him?

I suppose I shall now toddle off to the bedroom environment for my beauty sleep.
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: elmore3003 on May 12, 2005, 03:46:18 AM
Good morning, all!  This morning's the final day of the pre-surgical countdown:  meeting with the surgeon at 9:15, then off to Rodgers & Hammerstein to finish up (hopefully) SHOWBOAT.  Yesterday was a good day, once the computer got itself under control.  I spent a pleasant morning at the recording office, then the NYPL Theatre Collection looking at obituary files for information on the original 1903 BABES IN TOYLAND cast, and then a couple of hourse working on liner notes.

TOD:
   Mary Renault's THE KING MUST DIE and THE BULL FROM THE SEA
   Robert Graves' HERCULES, MY SHIPMATE and KING JESUS
   Margaret Mitchell's GONE WITH THE WIND
   Doctorow's RAGTIME
   Caleb Carr's THE ALIENIST
   Alexandre Dumas' THE THREE MUSKETEERS
   
I'm sure I've missed something of major importance to my mental contentment, but this is all I can think of at the present.  
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: elmore3003 on May 12, 2005, 03:48:01 AM
And I did!

Charles Dickens' A TALE OF TWO CITIES.
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: Michael on May 12, 2005, 04:21:16 AM
Fav Historical Novel: The Old Testement

Also liked The Three Musketeers.

Question what exactly is a historical novel?
Are the Benjamin Kritzer novels historical?
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: Michael on May 12, 2005, 04:25:38 AM
Gone with the Wind was published around 1935 70 years or so after the civil war and there were I am sure some people who lived through it were still around. Would they consider it a historical novel?

Why am I asking all these questions so early in the morning?
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: Ginny on May 12, 2005, 04:44:15 AM
Historical novels that I like, that have not already been mentioned:

Gone to Soldiers, by Marge Piercy
High Hearts and Dolly, by Rita Mae Brown
Those Who Love, by Irving Stone
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: bk on May 12, 2005, 05:08:10 AM
After finally falling asleep around three because of the stupid Mormon Tabernacle Bird Choir singing the Carmina Burana, I then had what must have been five nightmares in a row, and brother do I mean nightmares.  I think this stems from the fact that I was thinking about the mayhem in this play I'm doing.  That and too much Chinese food late at night.   Whatever it was, here I am at five in the morning, up and at 'em.  I shall try to go back to sleep in a bit.
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: Ben on May 12, 2005, 05:24:06 AM
Oh, my, the bird chorus may be bitch-slapped because I see Mr. BK is still up at 8:25 NY time which is 5:25 LA time.

I got very caught up in The Alienist and I'm a big fan of Dicken's work as well.

So much to do here at the office today. I will be back.

BK - GO TO BED (I feel like your mother)
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: Dan (the Man) on May 12, 2005, 05:24:44 AM
The truculent me broke down on the road.
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: bk on May 12, 2005, 05:29:54 AM
I'll go back to bed shortly.  I'm trying to shake all these dreams out of my system.  Maybe it was my new dictum that caused the dreams.  Maybe it was my being TRUCULENT!
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: Kerry on May 12, 2005, 05:42:50 AM
Dan (the Man)-- I know groaning is not allowed, but it is most in order.

A TRUCULENT dictum?  Hmmmmm.......

I'm going to have to look through my library and think on this one.  There was a good one about Camille Pissarro and some of the Impressionists a few years ago, and I can't think of the title at the moment.  It was more of a novel than a biography.
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: Dan (the Man) on May 12, 2005, 05:51:58 AM
DR Ben, I was just about to mention Caleb Carr's The Alienist, along with his The Angel of Darkness.

I, Claudius is certainly on the list.  I also enjoyed The Oldest Living Confederate Widow Tells All.  
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: Tomovoz on May 12, 2005, 06:05:16 AM
Just returned home from seeing a performance of "Suessical". A School performance and a great one at that. Why would anyone want to see Lion King when this show has so much heart? Colin and I went to the show with OzDerek.
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: bk on May 12, 2005, 06:08:17 AM
Still not asleep.  And now it's light out.  Oh, well, perhaps later I'll fall asleep on the sofa like so much fish.

I remember being quite fond of Anthony Burgess' Nothing Like the Sun.  I enjoyed Marilyn Todd's historical and amusing mystery, I, Claudia.  
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: Rodzinski on May 12, 2005, 06:13:57 AM
Like the kid asks in NIGHT OF THE HUNTER when Mitchum reappears to menace them anew...

"Don't he ever sleep?"
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: Ben on May 12, 2005, 06:47:24 AM
Well, it looks like our fearless leader has gone back to bed or at least gone off line.

I'm listening to an album from the 60s done by the lovely Leslie Uggams. It was sent to me a couple of years ago by a lovely man in the land of Oz! Thanks Tom. It's so nice to listen to this while I'm working. You're a gentleman and a scholar.
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: elmore3003 on May 12, 2005, 07:13:41 AM
I cannot believe I can toss out two excellent and obscure historical novels by Robert Graves and totally ignore his magna opera, I CLAUDIUS and CLAUDIUS THE GOD! I'm TRUCULENT over my mental lapses.

Back from the surgeon.  Monday and Tuesday promise to be tons of hilarity and mirth, and I cannot tell you all how much I'm dreading them, most likely Wednesday as well.  I decided to forego Roders & Hammerstein today in an effort to finish my cruise ship project.

Back later!
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: vixmom on May 12, 2005, 07:26:10 AM
Sorry about the wodescreen yesterday , I see bk or someone else managed to delete that posting.  I intended to come back and delete it after I was resized by some kind soul (thanks Jack!)

I had to run becuse I had an appointment to donate blood (somthing I have been doing regularly  since I was 18 )  but for some odd reason I became extremely  lightheaded and dizzy this time.   After a while I felt well enough to drive  home, but then it hit me again.  Mr. Vixmom thought it was because I hadn't eaten since lunchtime so he took us out to the IHOP for  dinner.

When we got home around 9:30 I felt totally drained, went rigt to bed and slept until after 7 this morning (I usually wake up before the alarm goes off at 6:30, this time I slept right through it!)

I hope I am not coming down with anything and that I donated "tainted" blood!

I feel well enough , just extremely tired.....
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: George on May 12, 2005, 07:48:20 AM
I went to bed early last night so that I could get to work early and I did!  I've been here since about 7:15.  I just wish that I could do that every day...but I know that I can't.  I've never been a morning person.  Just had to share! ;D

I will have to think about the historical novels that I might have read.  I don't recall reading any in a long time...if at all. :-\
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: vixmom on May 12, 2005, 07:53:19 AM

Back from the surgeon.  Monday and Tuesday promise to be tons of hilarity and mirth, and I cannot tell you all how much I'm dreading them, most likely Wednesday as well.
Back later!

Poor elmore,  at least this will resolve the long term problem.
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: Matt H. on May 12, 2005, 07:55:51 AM
I loved CLAUDIUS THE GOD even more than I CLAUDIUS.

But my favorite would have to be LITTLE WOMEN.

What's odd is that as much as I loved this book (and I read it more than once), I never got around to reading any of Alcott's other novels. I'd like to think one day I'll be able to get to LITTLE MEN or JO'S BOYS, but with so many thing I have to read here piling up (and many more I want to get to that I haven't even bought yet), who knows if there will EVER be enough time for everything.
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: Matt H. on May 12, 2005, 07:56:36 AM
Speaking of SEUSSICAL, the theater where I'm now doing LA CAGE is doing SEUSSICAL next season.
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: Matt H. on May 12, 2005, 08:02:34 AM
RE Jennifer Garner's directorial debut on ALIAS last night.

Well, she did very well. Like many first-time directors, however, she couldn't keep herself from doing some flashy things just for the sake of being flashy - 360 degree pans around two characters talking, shooting up at an actor from below for no good reason.

But it was a fun episode. What I haven't liked in the last few weeks are character strands that start and then get postponed for a week or two. Joel Grey was back last night after two weeks away, and Sonja Bragga, who's been instrumental in the past couple of weeks in what's been going on (and she figures majorly in the season finale as I understand) was missing last night.

One has to be a very loyal viewer to keep these stories in his head from week to week with no follow-up sometimes for several weeks.
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: vixmom on May 12, 2005, 08:10:14 AM
TOD: Gone With The Wind ~ Margaert Mitchell
     
         Sarum  ~ Edward Rutherfurd
         London ~ Edward Rutherfurd
         Russka ~ Edward Rutherfurd

         Fortunes Favorites ~ Colleen McCullough
         The Grass Crown ~ Colleen McCullough
         The First Man in Rome ~ Colleen McCullough
         Caeser's Women ~ Colleen McCullough
         Caeser ~ Colleen McCullough



     
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: JoseSPiano on May 12, 2005, 08:17:06 AM
Good Morning!

I tried to stay up and post last night, but I was basically in a zombie-like, half-asleep mode from midnight to whenever I finally got off the couch and headed upstairs to the bedroom.  It was just recently that I was able to stay up until at least 3:00AM, 4:00AM with no problem, but now...

???

In any case...
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: JoseSPiano on May 12, 2005, 08:18:40 AM
TRUCULENT!

-Didn't we already have this as a Word of the Day?

???

Guess I could search the archives...
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: vixmom on May 12, 2005, 08:27:09 AM
I love every "juveniel" novel I have ever read by Lousia May Alcott  and Laura Ingalls Wilder.   I didn't know if they counted as historical novels becasue they were basically contemporary at the time they were written.... (well maybe 40 - 50 years  out  for the Wilder books)

Matt H if you like Little Women then you would definitely like Little Men, Jo's Boys, Eight Cousins, Rose In Bloom, Under The Lilacs, An Old Fashioned Girl and  Jack & Jill

Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: JoseSPiano on May 12, 2005, 08:28:09 AM
As for Historical Novels...

Ken Follett - PILLARS OF THE EARTH - This book was recommended to me by a 12-year old actor I was working with at the time.  I remember buying the paperback while we were working together, but I did not start reading it until a year later or so.  And... WOW!  I had no idea what to expect - except for a long read (lots o' pages!) - but once the story got going... and going... and going... What a wonderful read.  And since I went through a Medieval, castles, etc., phase when I was in high school...

Joseph Conrad - RED BADGE OF COURAGE

Michael Chabon - THE AMAZING ADVENTURES OF KAVALIER & CLAY  - Yes, it covers more recent history, but it covers history.

David Leavitt - WHILE ENGLAND SLEEPS - I've always meant to follow up on the whole plagiarism scandal regarding this book.  In any case, I still liked it.

And many more I know that are not coming to my mind right now.
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: vixmom on May 12, 2005, 08:34:39 AM
Oh, I almost forgot, the Vixter received her  NYSSMA grade yesterday, she received a 27 out of 28 possible points  putting her in the  "Outstanding" category.  She lost one point oin sight reading in  "dynamics".

She's very excited because the SCEMEA (all county chorus) selections are made on the basis of the previous year's NYSSMA score.  As long as there aren't a bunch of "28" scores (unlikely) she should be in again next year..
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: Ron Pulliam on May 12, 2005, 08:41:13 AM
Favorite "historical" novels:

The Prince and the Pauper -- Mark Twain

Julian -- Gore Vidal

A Nervous Splendor: Vienna, 1888-1889 -- Frederic Morton

Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: S. Woody White on May 12, 2005, 08:46:54 AM
And the word of the day is: TRUCULENT!

And TRUCULENT is my current mood as regards the errant and truant, so WATCH OUT.  I am feeling quite volatile right now, oh, yes, I am feeling quite volatile, and when I am feeling quite volatile there is no telling what I might or might not do.
I announced that I would be e&t a few days ago.  What am I supposed to do, bring a note from the doctor?

Sheesh.  (Spelled backwards, that's "hseehs.")

 :-*
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: S. Woody White on May 12, 2005, 08:50:22 AM
Billion Dollar Brain, directed by Ken Russell.

Not to be confused with The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes, starring Kurt Russell.
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: Ron Pulliam on May 12, 2005, 08:52:37 AM
Is anyone else finding posting here this morning "very slow going"?

I don't normally experience this.  Am not having similar sluggishness with any other internet openings/postings.
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: S. Woody White on May 12, 2005, 08:53:54 AM
I have much to catch up with.  I may pop in from time to time to make snide comments upon what was written in the past few days.  You have all been warned.
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: Ron Pulliam on May 12, 2005, 08:57:19 AM
I can't say I'm feeling truculent at all today.  A bit peevish, perhaps.  
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: JoseSPiano on May 12, 2005, 08:57:45 AM
...And  as the clock strikes 12... well, Noon...

Time to attend to some "stuff"...

Laters...
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: Ron Pulliam on May 12, 2005, 08:59:12 AM
I have much to catch up with.  I may pop in from time to time to make snide comments upon what was written in the past few days.  You have all been warned.

Just the sort of challenge my peevish self will welcome.

I hope you don't mind a few snappy retorts/comebacks????

It's all in good fun...eh, what!
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: S. Woody White on May 12, 2005, 09:02:22 AM
The truculent me broke down on the road.
I was wondering when something like that would happen.
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: JoseSPiano on May 12, 2005, 09:14:45 AM
Well... I was planning on heading back down to Richmond in an hour or so, but after looking at the traffic and construction report on the Noon news... Hmmm...

We shall see...

In the meantime, "stuff" is calling me...

Once again, Laters...
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: vixmom on May 12, 2005, 09:18:28 AM
Is anyone else finding posting here this morning "very slow going"?

I don't normally experience this.  Am not having similar sluggishness with any other internet openings/postings.

Yes!  AND I have been  "kicked off" about three times and lost postinfgs as a result.  Perhaps bk's truculent vibes  have infected the server  
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: vixmom on May 12, 2005, 09:24:24 AM
I have seen  the BBC version  of "I, Claudius" many times, in fact Mr. Vixmom & I bought the video collection after seeing it on  PBS, and then several years later replaced it with the DVD version, but oddly, I never have thought to look for the books it is based on

hmmm I must hie me to a book store AND I have a B & N  gift certificate....

We're going to be in the city Saturday to visit the American Girl Place (so the Vixter can spend her birthday gift certificates) before we meet DR Ben and go to Anthony's play,  should we venture a bit farther uptown  elmore's B &N ?  Will you be ther this Saturday DR elmore or was last Saturday your last day there... I forget....

(I've gotta pick up some of that ginko whateveritis to improve memory only I never remember when I go shopping...)
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: vixmom on May 12, 2005, 09:26:33 AM
I announced that I would be e&t a few days ago.  What am I supposed to do, bring a note from the doctor?

 :-*


"Dear bk, Please excuse  DR SWW for being  e& t, he had plans..., signed  DR doctor    ;D  
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: S. Woody White on May 12, 2005, 09:28:07 AM
A couple of days ago, DR Jose wrote:
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...closing out the season will be a revival of Shenandoah.  Hoo and Ray!  I've always loved this show.  Yes, it may be a bit old-fashioned and treacly in some places, but I always find myself moved by it.
Shenandoah is a favorite of der Brucer's.  I remember one phase he went through, where I finally had to hide the CD because he was playing it so often.  And yes, it may be "old-fashioned and treacly in some places," but so is he sometimes.
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: S. Woody White on May 12, 2005, 09:29:39 AM
"Dear bk, Please excuse  DR SWW for being  e& t, he had plans..., signed  DR doctor    ;D  
Thank-you!
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: vixmom on May 12, 2005, 09:30:37 AM
I can't say I'm feeling truculent at all today.  A bit peevish, perhaps.  

But are you feeling better?  Have you A/C in your office?

If you are still feeling unwell I can send you some more lovely bunny pictures to cheer you up  :-*
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: Jrand74 on May 12, 2005, 09:34:37 AM
What a great TOD.

At the tippy top of the highest peak of my choices are two books that cannot be mentioned enough:

A TALE OF TWO CITIES by Mr Charles Dickens
GONE WITH THE WIND by Miss Margaret (Peggy) Mitchell

And I will add:

Another vote for THE ALIENIST by Mr Caleb Carr

And add on my own:

THE FOUR HORSEMEN OF THE APOCALYPSE by Vincente Blasco Ibanez

CAPTAIN BLOOD , THE SEA-HAWK, SCARAMOUCHE by Rafael Sabatini (All of them as exciting as the movies that were made from them)
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: vixmom on May 12, 2005, 09:38:11 AM
Thank-you!

No problem, just send me up a portion of your next scrumptious homecooked meal  ;D
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: S. Woody White on May 12, 2005, 09:41:07 AM
A couple of days ago, DR William F. Orr wrote:
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Well, I'm teaching geometry this semester, so how could I pass up the chance to explain the CONICAL Sections:
And if you make the figure using a map of the Golden State, you will have...

...the obvious pun, of course.   ::)
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: S. Woody White on May 12, 2005, 09:48:20 AM
Funny reads:

One of our local writers, Fay Jacobs, has had her collumns collected in book form, titled As I Lay Frying. (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0964664860/qid=1115916412/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/002-2041876-5755222)

If you're feeling cheap (it happens), her writings can be found archived at Letters from Camp Rehoboth. (http://www.camprehoboth.com/index.html)
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: Jennifer on May 12, 2005, 09:49:56 AM
I caught the last few minutes of Idol last night.  I liked Anthony but I don't think he should have won.  I expected him to go.  And I think he should be pleased with finishing fourth.

As for Alias, I enjoyed last night's show.  Perhaps the show is not as exciting and shocking as it was when he started, but I still enjoy it a lot.  I'm just wondering what the heck they will do if Jennifer Garner is pregnant (which seems likely).  She has such a physical role.

Btw, is this the second week in a row where Sydney didn't go out in the field.  What's up with that?  I can't ever remember seeing an episode before these where she stayed in LA.  I guess if she was directing, she needed less screen time.  But it seems weird for the show's flow.
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: Jrand74 on May 12, 2005, 09:59:05 AM
I thought Anthony got sent home.
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Post by: S. Woody White on May 12, 2005, 09:59:18 AM
A couple of days ago, DRRodzinsky wrote"
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Christina Applegate getting nominated for a Tony is kind of silly. I'm sure she worked very hard to come back from her injury, but by all accounts her singing and dancing were subpar, or at least well below the standards of her temp replacement.
This is a case of someone being rewarded for not heeding their own limitations.
Or, as the old dictum goes, "You'll go out there a trooper, but you'll come back a limping trooper."
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: Jrand74 on May 12, 2005, 10:00:49 AM
DtM posted a website yesterday about the technology of using a laser (wolf) to play vinyl albums.  VERY INTERESTING.

Like DR RODZINSKI - I have been reading about this for years, but the cost was astronomical.  Maybe someone is working to bring it into the average home someday (soon).....wouldn't that be great?
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: Jennifer on May 12, 2005, 10:03:02 AM
I thought Anthony got sent home.

He did.  I meant I didn't think he was good enough to win the competition.  He placed fourth. But there are only 3 left.  Hence he went home.

(sorry if I confused anyone).

Btw, I thought 140+ posts was good. I didn't realize we were gonna get spanked for it. :(
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: Charles Pogue on May 12, 2005, 10:04:03 AM
Sorry, I was not here yesterday.  I finally watched the three-hour version-cut-down from-four-hours of my mini series HERCULES that airs Monday night.  My exec had warned me I would be shocked by the severity of the cuts. An understatement.  I needed all yesterday to recuperate

Historical fiction is one of the genres I collect. I've seen many of my favs already here on the rolls.  JULIAN; HERCULES, MY SHIPMATE; The Mary Renault books like THE KING MUST DIE, BULL FROM THE SEA,THE MASK OF APOLLO.  Vixmom, you didn't list the last of the McCullough Rome series...THE OCTOBER HORSE.  Have you read it yet?  The is a terrific series!

I'm quite fond of Rafael Sabatini's historical novels and have one of the best collections I know in America.  A few years ago, I was asked advice on certain editions for FIRSTS magazine.  The dust-jacket that is in the booklet of Rudy Behlmer's notes for THE BLACK SWAN soundtrack is a xerox of mine that I made for Rudy.

My new historical fiction god of the last 10 years is British writer, Henry Treece.  He wrote some excellent novels about ancient Greece: The Amber Princess(about Electra); The Eagle King (Oedipus); and Jason.  He also wrote a series of great books about early Britain...Red Queen, White Queen (about Boudicca); The Great Captains (about a very primtive Arthur & Merlin); The Dark Island (about Caratacus); The Green Man (taking Hamlet back to its origins); and a play about Edward II, The Carnival King.  He also wrote many wonderful historicals for young readers, which I also collect, because Treece does not at all write down to children and his books for them are just as dark and brooding and violent as his more mature work. He loves to deal with "the dying fall". He was also poet; so his prose is quite wonderful.  Great forgotten writer.

I have several historical novels by Edison Marshall...notably The Earth Giant (about Hercules); The Pagan King (Arthur); and The Vikings (on which the Kirk Douglas movies was based).

I have a large selection of purely Arthurian literature which includes much fiction and the same for Richard III, which includes many novels on the subject.

The same is true of my Jack the Ripper collection, many fiction volumes on the subject.

I've lots of Harold Lamb...both fcition and non.  I like his Curved Saber, stories of Khlit the Cossack and his DURANDEL...about Roland's sword and the knight who comes to possess it.

I have a signed 1st edition of SPARTACUS by Howard Fast, but haven't read it yet.

The best historical I've read in the last couple of years is THE EAGLE & THE RAVEN by Pauline Gedge, huge thick saga of the Roman occupation of Britain and the resistance by Caractacus and Boudicca.

Jose, on the recommendation of a friend I bought Pillars of The Earth. I haven't read it yet.

I've also got a few Frank Yerby that I've never read.

I also like historical mysteris...The Roman Blood series by Steven Saylor; the Roman series about Marcus Falco Didius by Lindsay Davis; a series about Nicholas Bracewell, a prompter for an Eliizabethan theatre company, who solves mysteries, the Sir John Fielding mysteries; Bernard Cornwell just wrote a good one called GALLOWS THIEF about a man who solves crimes in Regency England; and T.F. Banks has started a series about a Bow-Street Runner which looks promising, the first book is called THE THIEF-TAKER.
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Post by: Jennifer on May 12, 2005, 10:04:44 AM
Btw, had a very nice dinner last night.   And my aunt and uncle are so kind.  They gave me all their leftover food (delicious pork fried rice, general taos, chicken soo guy).  And I also had much of my tempura.  So basically it will be enough for 3 meals (they give huge portions).
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on May 12, 2005, 10:12:16 AM
I was wondering when something like that would happen.

It was only a matter of time.
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Post by: bk on May 12, 2005, 10:14:01 AM
I'm up, I'm up.  Got back in bed just before seven and within ten seconds of my head hitting the pillow I was out.  Pleasant dreams, too.

MattH: That is exactly my dissatisfaction with this season - they just pull these outrageous things to keep viewers hooked, and then they let them die (in the case of Joel Grey) - then when it looks like it didn't work, they bring him back for some juice.  It's ridiculous and not what they did in the first or even second season.  As to Miss Garner's "direction" - you can be certain that the director of photography was very helpful and that she just did things that she's seen others do - the DGA ought to have a rule about his stuff.

Pogue, hope you've recuperated, but I would bet that what's left onscreen is cherce.  And the uncut version will be shown, so that's good, and that's what they'll release (highly trumpeted) on the DVD.  Now, about the DVD - you ought to have your agent or your exec get you in on the special features, which they'll undoubtedly do.

Were you happy with Mr. Young's work?  The cast's?

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Post by: Jrand74 on May 12, 2005, 10:15:18 AM
Well DR CP -  sorry for your HERCULES....
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Post by: vixmom on May 12, 2005, 10:17:30 AM
Vixmom, you didn't list the last of the McCullough Rome series...THE OCTOBER HORSE.  Have you read it yet?  The is a terrific series!

No, I shall have to get it. I was looking for it for a while and then finally gave up thinking it never got writtten.  I shall go and look for it ASAP

I
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Bernard Cornwell just wrote a good one called GALLOWS THIEF about a man who solves crimes in Regency England

How could I forget Bernard Cornwell?! I love the entire Richard Sharpe series, we first got hooked on these when the  BBC production played on PBS,  (we now own the whole series on DVD)  and then I  read all the books as well.  There was also another Bernard Cornwell novel I read about a British soldier stationed in the US colonies during the revolution , darned if I can remember thename of it at the moment., oh wait, I think its called Redcoat,  it was very good.


There was also a book called the  Autobiography of Cleopatra that was very interesting, I read it right after Caeser by Colleen McCullough and fit right in as if it were part of her series, danged if I can remember who wrote it..  
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Post by: Jennifer on May 12, 2005, 10:17:58 AM
Pretty cool.  Blogs for the new RENT film:

http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/rent/blog/
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Post by: vixmom on May 12, 2005, 10:23:18 AM
Sorry, I was not here yesterday.  I finally watched the three-hour version-cut-down from-four-hours of my mini series HERCULES that airs Monday night.  My exec had warned me I would be shocked by the severity of the cuts. An understatement.  I needed all yesterday to recuperate

Did they leave in the "Hercules"  character at all?

I meant to mention that my cablevision guide came in the mail yesterday and there is a quarter page ad on Monday for the your Hercules.  I was dismayed to see its scheduled against the series finale of  "Everyone Loves Raymond", not because I watch "Raymond", I don't, but I imagine these much heralded  "last in the series" shows are huge ratings draws and may hurt your first night's ratings.

When is the full version being shown on SciFi?

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Post by: vixmom on May 12, 2005, 10:24:32 AM
Btw, I thought 140+ posts was good. I didn't realize we were gonna get spanked for it. :(

He's very strict, bk is.  ;)
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Post by: vixmom on May 12, 2005, 10:29:30 AM
Pretty cool.  Blogs for the new RENT film:

http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/rent/blog/

I didn't even know it was being made into a film

nobody tells me anything
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Post by: bk on May 12, 2005, 10:35:39 AM
I haven't noticed any sluggishness.

Jennifer: No amount of posts is bad - we've just been having many more recently, and I like reading them.

I haven't noticed any sluggishness.

elmore, we are all here for you.
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Post by: Ginny on May 12, 2005, 10:35:49 AM
Since Caleb Carr's books have been mentioned several times, here's a link to a story in today's NY Times about the home he has just built:

www.nytimes.com/2005/05/12/garden/12Carr.html

I also, upon re-reading the specifications for today's TOD, realized that I committed a "rules violation:"  Marge Piercy's Gone to Soldiers, is set during World War II, not pre-1920's as requested by BK.  Mea culpa (it's still a good book by one of my favorite authors).
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Post by: Iris* on May 12, 2005, 10:46:26 AM
Hi  vixmom-
     I was introduced to the American Girl dolls and books last night, as my friends have a daughter who has just turned 8.
We read a bit of Felicity's Surprise before she went to bed, and I was very impressed with how much history these girls learn from reading the AG books.
I must say, I don't like the sound of Felicity's mother's cough. I have a very bad feeling about that........ :-\
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Post by: bk on May 12, 2005, 10:55:24 AM
Flight is booked (and got my bulkhead aisle seat in advance - hoo and ray), but am just missing out on being able to fly out of Burbank rather than Long Beach. Now I must find a hotel.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on May 12, 2005, 10:57:39 AM
But are you feeling better?  Have you A/C in your office?

If you are still feeling unwell I can send you some more lovely bunny pictures to cheer you up  :-*

Am feeling same.  Better sleep last night.  Office hot today, but there is hope as the much-needed, had-to-be-ordered-from-Michigan replacement part arrived late yesterday.  Of course, it has to be successfully installed.  They are claiming we'll have A/C by noon today.

We shall see.

About "I, Claudius" the book.  The BBC series was EXTREMELY faithful to Robert Graves' novel.  It should be a "model" (in fact, it and "Brideshead Revisited") for novel-to-screen adaptations.  Reading the book, you literally can recall the TV series...alll the great dialogue, etc.

As for more bunnies.....

NO-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o!

Why on earth would you do such a thing?
(Do any of our former "Buffy" watchers recall Anya's aversion to bunny rabbits????)
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Post by: Jrand74 on May 12, 2005, 10:57:52 AM
Site is refreshing a bit slowly for me....
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on May 12, 2005, 10:58:34 AM
The delay times I'm experiencing on this site are 10-25 seconds in duration.
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Post by: S. Woody White on May 12, 2005, 11:06:52 AM
As for more bunnies.....

NO-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o!

Why on earth would you do such a thing?
(Do any of our former "Buffy" watchers recall Anya's aversion to bunny rabbits????)
Yes, I recall Anya's aversion.  But maybe Vixmom was referring to Playboy Bunnies.

Not everyone is into beefcake.

 8)
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Post by: Iris* on May 12, 2005, 11:06:58 AM
Casting notices are up, and it looks like the next Disney Broadway musical will be Tarzan, with music and lyrics by Phil Collins. I was kind of hoping it would be The Little Mermaid.
According to Variety, Jamie Foxx, Usher, and Beyonce have been cast in the film version of the Broadway musical
"Dreamgirls", directed by Bill Condon. Foxx will portray Curtis Taylor Jr. and Usher has been cast as C.C. White.
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Post by: vixmom on May 12, 2005, 11:07:10 AM
Hi  vixmom-
     I was introduced to the American Girl dolls and books last night, as my friends have a daughter who has just turned 8.
We read a bit of Felicity's Surprise before she went to bed, and I was very impressed with how much history these girls learn from reading the AG books.
I must say, I don't like the sound of Felicity's mother cough. I have a very bad feeling about that........

I am not very familiar with Felicity (from the Revolutionary War period for those not inthe know)  the Vixter  has Kaya, a Native American from the late 1600's ,  Kirsten,  a Norwegian immigrant to Minnesota in the mid 1800's and  three of the American Girl Today dolls, 2 of which have no stories, and the third one, Marisol, who moves from Chicago to a local suburb

I agree though, any  pre-1960 coughing is a baaaaad sign!  
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Post by: Iris* on May 12, 2005, 11:07:42 AM
Wishing you the best of health, dear elmore.
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Post by: Iris* on May 12, 2005, 11:12:48 AM
BTW, Dino actually was ON the piano last night. The birds had kept him awake the night before, so he was catching up on some much needed sleep. :)
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Post by: Jrand74 on May 12, 2005, 11:13:31 AM
Good vibes to DR ELMORE.

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Post by: MBarnum on May 12, 2005, 11:14:53 AM
I am afraid I don't know from historical novels...my tastes are more mid-20th century, I guess.

The sight has been VERY sluggish for me the last two days accessing it from work...for most of yesterday I could not even get to the posts...just only the home page.
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Post by: MBarnum on May 12, 2005, 11:16:26 AM
Best of health vibes to DR Elmore3003!!

[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]  :)  :)  :)  ;)  ;)  :D  :D  ;D   :o  :o  8)  8)  :-*   :-* [/move]
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Post by: MBarnum on May 12, 2005, 11:17:27 AM
I am listening to some lovely musical CDs courtesy MR DR Tomovoz! Thanks Tom!!!!

Volare!
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Post by: Stuart on May 12, 2005, 11:20:52 AM
Hi folks....Sorry to have been E&T the last couple of days, but trying to tie up some loose ends before people disappear at the end of the semester.

Have not yet read posts, so some of this might seem a bit redundant:
I was thrilled (as I am sure many of our Dear Readers can imagine) that Uchenna and Joyce won TAR.  (I was even happier, if possible, that Romber lost.  Schaudenfreude, I suppose.)

I was sad to see Anthony go home last night.  I expected it, but was still sad.

Add another to the list of people who would endorse THE ALIENIST as a favorite historical novel.  (I was less satisfied with the follow-up.)

I also suppose there is a Mary Renault book in there, but for the life of me, I can't recall what it was.  Perhaps THE CHARIOTEER.
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Post by: vixmom on May 12, 2005, 11:23:20 AM
.

As for more bunnies.....

NO-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o!


perhaps THIS will make you feel better

http://happytreefriends.atomfilms.com/watch_episodes/index.html

I was going to post an image but its all too horrible
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Post by: S. Woody White on May 12, 2005, 11:26:36 AM
Before I get back to catching up with posts past...

We had quite a scare a couple of nights ago.  We had been grandlad-sitting, which led to our following along for William's T-ball game and Alex's one-step-above-T-ball game.  The whole thing was a) fun; b) allergy-reactive; and c) long.

The good news was that we got to introduce William to some of the score for A Year With Frog and Toad, which after claiming it "sucked" after the first four seconds he then found quite funny.  But that's another story.

We got home quite late, der B unhappy because House had already started without him.  I've got the kitchen door open, so that I can keep an eye on the dogs while they're outside and cook at the same time.  It wasn't good enough.  Peggy realized I wasn't watching as closely as I should be, and climbed over the fence again.

I shut everything off in the kitchen, grabbed a leash, and went out to hunt for her.  Unfortunately, there wasn't a sign, and it was extremely dark that night.  Der B got in the car, and took a turn himself.  When he got back, he told me that he'd spotted her, but that she'd run away from him...and that's when she showed up at the top of the driveway, watching us.  I called to her, but she wasn't finished having fun yet, so she set off up the road again, with me trying to follow.  Again, it was too dark to see.  I was about ready to give up again when she suddenly ran across the road, heading in my direction...and came up to me, wagging her tail and waiting for me to put the leash on her.

I guess that's a happy ending, but the simple fact is we can not keep Peggy much longer.  Because she love to bolt we have to keep the doggy door closed, which isn't fair to the other dogs, and she's putting herself in danger every time she runs.

We don't know exactly how this is going to end, but it has to end soon.
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Post by: Stuart on May 12, 2005, 11:26:56 AM
It's Page Four!  We Dance!
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Post by: Jrand74 on May 12, 2005, 11:30:08 AM
DR GEORGE...if you do a search for David Amram you will discover that he composed the musical score for a film featuring MR BK's favorite actress.
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Post by: Iris* on May 12, 2005, 11:31:11 AM
Lol, vixmom, I love Happy Tree Friends. Sick, sick humor.
I find them disgustingly hilarious.

Jose, are you planning to see Pacific Overtures at the Signature? Have you heard anything about the cast or the production? I just received an e-mail from them this morning with a ticket offer.
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Post by: vixmom on May 12, 2005, 11:33:35 AM
I have to run to a closing.  laters
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Post by: bk on May 12, 2005, 11:52:18 AM
I will try using Safari, but through AOL it is being a bit sluggish, but nothing major.

David Amram was one of my favorite film composers, and it's just sad he didn't do more than he did.  I got to know him a bit when we did his score to the Broadway version of On the Waterfront - he's a real character, but he was very touched that I knew who he was and that I'd always loved his work.  I included his brilliant theme from Splendor in the Grass on one of the Fred Karlin jazz at the movies albums I did.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on May 12, 2005, 12:08:03 PM
Site has been very sluggish for me when I first get on it from somewhere the last few days.  It will say it's done loading but there'll be nothing on the screen....occasionally for over a minute.  This is just when I go to the posts section, everything else comes up promptly.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on May 12, 2005, 12:09:15 PM
Just posting the above message took three-four times longer than usual...about 30-40 thirty seconds.
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Post by: Matt H. on May 12, 2005, 12:40:27 PM
Because Jennifer Garner directed the show last night, Jennifer, I wasn't at all surprised that she lessened her workload on-camera so she could better handle things behind the camera.
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Post by: Matt H. on May 12, 2005, 12:46:04 PM
In addition to the other DREAMGIRLS cast mentioned in the VARIETY article, Eddie Murphy will be Jimmy Early.
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Post by: Matt H. on May 12, 2005, 12:49:46 PM
Watched a wide range of films/TV on the new DVD player today, just for testing purposes: WILL & GRACE, season 3; GOLDFINGER, BRIGADOON, and one complete episode of ANGEL which I thought looked astonishingly sharp and crisp.
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Post by: ArnoldMBrockman on May 12, 2005, 12:56:09 PM
BK-

Received the Original Broadway Cast recording of DIRTY ROTTEN SCOUNDRELS today and I wonder if this issue bothers a Producer like you as much as it bothers me.

Who makes the decision on what the spine on the Cd looks like?
 You would have to have 20/20 vision to try to make out what the content of the Jewel Case contains. The writing is so dark. Does any one think about what these things look like on a shelf?

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Post by: Jennifer on May 12, 2005, 01:02:04 PM
DR SWW, I don't have any dogs, but would it be possible to keep Peggy in the yard with a very long leash.  That way she wouldn't be able to jump the fence?  I'm sure it wouldn't be ideal, but at least she would be safe.
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Post by: bk on May 12, 2005, 01:09:56 PM
I shouldn't believe anything in that Variety article re Dreamgirls.

I've alerted our site host about the sluggishness.  It seems to have loaded fast this time round so maybe they've caught it.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on May 12, 2005, 01:22:10 PM
Well, frozen poop on a stick!

An entire message I posted pre-lunch is totally NOT here.

I seconded that I loved Mary Renault, but that for me, her two masterworks are "Fire From Heaven" and "The Persian Boy."

She has an incredible gift for establishing an ancient place in an ancient time and making her characters seem alive, in that time, yet contemporary.  I think I've read most of her novels.

I'm also a huge fan of Mary Stewart's "The Crystal Cave" and "The Hollow Hills."  She wrote two other Merlin stories, but I've never read them.  
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Post by: Jrand74 on May 12, 2005, 01:22:56 PM
Loading much faster in these here parts as well.
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Post by: Matt H. on May 12, 2005, 01:32:20 PM
THE PERSIAN BOY, a book a former boy friend gave me for a gift, and I have never gotten around to reading it. Oh, so many books, movies, TV shows, . . .  so little time!
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Post by: Stuart on May 12, 2005, 01:36:28 PM
Well, frozen poop on a stick!

An entire message I posted pre-lunch is totally NOT here.

I seconded that I loved Mary Renault, but that for me, her two masterworks are "Fire From Heaven" and "The Persian Boy."

THAT was it!  "The Persian Boy."  "The Charioteer" was the Renault I couldn't get through, as I now recall. (Only one of two books that I never finished reading, the other one being "Death in Venice.")
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on May 12, 2005, 01:38:39 PM
Had I the "time", I'd choose reading a book over everything all the time.  

Only problem is, I don't want to "have to" put it down for any great period of time when I cannot control things I'm exposed to (like having to go to work and put up with a ton of crap before getting back to the book).  
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Post by: elmore3003 on May 12, 2005, 01:40:34 PM

I also suppose there is a Mary Renault book in there, but for the life of me, I can't recall what it was.  Perhaps THE CHARIOTEER.

I was never a fan of the Mary Renault novels on Alexander the Great, but THE CHARIOTEER is set in World War II, not ancient Greece.
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Post by: elmore3003 on May 12, 2005, 01:41:06 PM
And I wasn't much of a fan of THE CHARIOTEER, either!
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Post by: William F. Orr on May 12, 2005, 01:43:32 PM
Now if Oliver Stone had just filmed Mary Renault's Alexander novels... then the right wing would really have gone berserk.  BTW, did anyone read that Stone is censoring out all those non-heterosexual bits for the DVD release, because they hurt his box office?

But back to TOD, before I leave work in a flurry.

I used to go through reading orgies of a particular author.  One year it was Arthur Koestler, one year Patrick Dennis, another Evelyn Waugh.

Historically speaking, then, I will second all of Mary Renault.   And Nothing Like the Sun , although I can't think I've read any other Burgess except for A Clockwork Orange.  Does Candide count as a historical novel?  Oh yes, and the Claudius novels, which I read alongside of Suetonius--it's all there, just told in a somewhat different narrative style.
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Post by: MBarnum on May 12, 2005, 01:49:34 PM
Loading nice and swiftly here, as well! Hurray!
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Post by: William F. Orr on May 12, 2005, 01:50:13 PM
And just to be ornery, I should add Kiel Akvo de l' Rivero by Raymond Schwartz, since there is no English translation.
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Post by: Stuart on May 12, 2005, 01:52:19 PM
Loading nice and swiftly here, as well! Hurray!

I was just catching up with some posts from recent days, and you should know:  you one funny man!
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Post by: Jrand74 on May 12, 2005, 01:55:19 PM
Well...he's no Race Gentry, but he's okay.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on May 12, 2005, 01:57:11 PM
The Lovely Wife & I took a long walk to dinner last night downin the Vermont/Hillhurst corridor and, on the way back, we stopped in a small used CD/DVD/Record shop.  I picked up some Caedmon theatre recordings on record of Cyrano De Bergerac with Ralph Richardson and Anna Massey (the ex-Mrs. Jeremy Brett).  And King Lear starring Paul Scofield, Rachel Roberts, Pamela Brown, Cyril Cusack, Robert Stephens, and John Stride.  Both plays are directed by Howard Sackler.  I also picked up a DVD of Branagh's Much Ado About Nothing and the wonderful 3:10 To Yuma starring Van Heflin & Glenn Ford.
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Post by: S. Woody White on May 12, 2005, 02:08:40 PM
DR SWW, I don't have any dogs, but would it be possible to keep Peggy in the yard with a very long leash.  That way she wouldn't be able to jump the fence?  I'm sure it wouldn't be ideal, but at least she would be safe.
Instead of a leash, she would require a chain.  She chomps through leashes, thinks it's great fun.  And der B and I cringe at the idea of chains.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on May 12, 2005, 02:14:34 PM
You must get "An Apartment for Peggy", then.
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Post by: MBarnum on May 12, 2005, 02:15:35 PM
funny ha, ha...or funny strange?  ::)
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Post by: Jrand74 on May 12, 2005, 02:16:45 PM
DR CP - wasn't Anna Massey in the remarkable PEEPING TOM as well?
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Post by: S. Woody White on May 12, 2005, 02:27:20 PM
Yesterday, DR Matt mentioned:
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However, and I hesitate to mention this as it's been a very sore point with me, but the actor playing my son has quit again (he was cast, quit, changed his mind, and quit again), and we open three weeks from tomorrow.
Maybe what he really wanted was to be a Cagelle!  (Better costumes, y'know!   8))
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Post by: S. Woody White on May 12, 2005, 02:29:12 PM
What Peggy is getting is locked in the basement every time we have to leave for an extended time.  And she don't like it!
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Post by: Jane on May 12, 2005, 02:52:03 PM
Has anyone seen the made for TV Harry Palmer movies?  I didn't know they existed.

Nor did I. And why would we want to watch a Harry Palmer movie without Michael Cain! ;D
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Post by: Tomovoz on May 12, 2005, 03:01:20 PM
Why would anyone want to watch a film WITH Michael Caine? Blame it on Rio - no! Blame it on Caine.
(I liked "Last Orders" but then he was dead in that). Horses and courses.
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Post by: Jrand74 on May 12, 2005, 03:01:39 PM
I used to have the LP of the soundtrack of BILLION DOLLAR BRAIN, but I have never seen the flick.

Was it DRMS who mentioned the strange way TCM seems to be broadcasting Robert Osborne lately?  I noticed it as well.  Since the bumpers are usually taped in Atlanta, maybe they are sending them via satellite from LA for some reason or another....who knows?  But it is very strange, and yes it looks like the news.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on May 12, 2005, 03:02:03 PM
Good Afternoon!

Greetings from Richmond!

I'm ba-ack... Well, not really, but you know what I mean.

I had a surprisingly traffic-free drive down I-95 considering I left at 2:30.  Even the usual trouble spot at the Springfield "Mixing Bowl" was trouble-free - especially considering how bad it looked on the noon news.  The traffic reporters on the radio also seemed surprised that the traffic was so light.  -Well, at least in Virginia, Maryland was having it's share of traffic woes.

But I'm not complaining, just observing.
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Post by: Jane on May 12, 2005, 03:02:53 PM
I forget....

(I've gotta pick up some of that ginko whateveritis to improve memory only I never remember when I go shopping...)

I tried and it didn't help-darn. ;D
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Post by: JoseSPiano on May 12, 2005, 03:03:37 PM
Once back in town, I stopped by CVS to pick up some pictures I had dropped off earlier in the week.  I shall be posting some later.  I believe I had an Elvis sighting or two while I was in Memphis. ;)
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on May 12, 2005, 03:07:40 PM
Why would anyone want to watch a film WITH Michael Caine? Blame it on Rio - no! Blame it on Caine.
(I liked "Last Orders" but then he was dead in that). Horses and courses.

Oh, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

First, it was "Steel Magnolias"

Now it's Michael Caine!!???

"Funeral in Berlin"!

"Hannah and Her Sisters"!

"Educating Rita"

Three examples of some of life's GREATEST pleasures!

Aughghghghghghghghghgh!

:D
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Post by: JoseSPiano on May 12, 2005, 03:11:35 PM
DR Iris - I'm not sure I'll be able to catch Pacific Overtures at Signature Theatre since it will be running at the same time as Mamma Mia!.  However, since my Mamma Mia! schedule may turn out to be lighter than original thought...  but that's another story.

Frankly, I just have no real desire to see the show at Signature.  After that Japanese production a few years ago, I don't think I would be able to truly enjoy - and judge - the production fully and fairly.

*I also find it a little strange that there's been none of the usual pre-opening press and promotion for this show like there usually is for Signature's big musical.  I have no idea who is in the cast - although I'm guessing a good chunk of them were probably imported from NYC since the DC area is not exactly known for their Asian and Asian-American acting and singing pool.   -Now if Mr. Schaeffer went non-traditional, well...  Let's just say I'm not expecting to see Signature stalwart (and co-founder), Donna Migliaccio on the stage for this production.  ;)
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Post by: Jane on May 12, 2005, 03:13:06 PM
Iris how fun to discover the music was live and not from an annoying neighbor.

Vixmom do you have special blood or just donate regularly?  Bryan often donates his universally accepted blood.
Congratulations to the Vixter.

CP I’m very sorry the cuts were so severe.  I will wait to watch the entire series.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on May 12, 2005, 03:15:32 PM
...Oh, and the 10-packs of the mini candy bars - Hershey products - were on sale at CVS...  1/2 price!

;D
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: bk on May 12, 2005, 03:21:16 PM
Yes, Anna Massey is in the brilliant Peeping Tom - I'm almost ready for one of my twice-a-year viewings.

Back from luncheon with Miss Tammy Minoff (and her bro).  Tomorrow we are meeting up with her money person, who will be helping fund  this new play, and perhaps even a bigger venture that I have in mind.  

Beautiful day here in the City of Studio.  I've heard the entire album of mixes and the fixes all sound great (except for one instance where I lowered a vocal, which needs to come back to where it was).  I have little nitpicks on about four of the new mixes we did yesterday, but it's all stuff that's simple and will only take an hour or so.  I'm very pleased.  I even did a potential sequence at Vinnie's, and while I already realize that certain things are not in the right place, it was very close.  I think I only have to switch around three songs for it to be right.
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Post by: bk on May 12, 2005, 03:21:45 PM
Our host said no probs on their end, so whatever was causing the sluggishness now seems to have disappeared.
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Post by: S. Woody White on May 12, 2005, 03:26:24 PM
Let's just say I'm not expecting to see Signature stalwart (and co-founder), Donna Migliaccio on the stage for this production.  ;)
She would make for an interesting Narrator.  (Love her very much!)
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Post by: Jrand74 on May 12, 2005, 03:30:39 PM
Now I think I will watch PEEPING TOM....

I am watching GUESS WHO'S COMING TO DINNER? right now on TCM.  Saw it many times on its original run...seemed to be a ground-breaking movie at the time.  But then as now.....Katharine Houghton seems to be impossibly VAPID.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on May 12, 2005, 03:32:29 PM
She would make for an interesting Narrator.  (Love her very much!)

Although, I'm thinking she would make one helluva a Shogun's Mother.

;)
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Post by: Jrand74 on May 12, 2005, 03:33:30 PM
Uh-oh...I forgot the go-go boy delivering the meat for dinner. :)
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Post by: Tomovoz on May 12, 2005, 03:36:17 PM
Michael Caine playing Michael Caine.. Just not for me RLP.
Don't forget "Beaches".

Caine was oh  so wrong for "The Quiet American" .

Rita - Excellent Julie Walters.

I didn't mind Caine in "Cider House Rules" - Underplayed for a change.

Horse racing!!!
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Post by: Jrand74 on May 12, 2005, 03:39:41 PM
Final examination question:  How would you solve the staging problems for a production of PEER GYNT?

Answer:  Do it on the radio.
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Post by: Jane on May 12, 2005, 03:42:13 PM
SWW FAST VIBES FINDING PEGGY A WONDERFUL HOME![/size]

Jennifer for multiple reasons I don’t believe in leaving dogs tethered.  Safety for one, plus it can make a dog aggressive if left that way too long, which I’m sure you didn’t intend.  
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Post by: JoseSPiano on May 12, 2005, 03:46:41 PM
WOW!

Just read the news reports of the retaining wall collapse onto the Henry Hudson Parkway in NYC - right near DR Rodzinski's neck of the woods.

I truly hope the early reports of no one being hurt or buried remain true.

(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2005/05/12/nyregion/collapse.274.jpg)

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Post by: Rodzinski on May 12, 2005, 03:47:24 PM
I think Michael Caine MAKES the MUPPET CHRISTMAS CAROL.
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Post by: Rodzinski on May 12, 2005, 03:48:07 PM
Gee, Jose. That's the first I've heard of it. Yipes!
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: MBarnum on May 12, 2005, 03:51:06 PM
5 more minutes till time to get off work!  ;D

Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: Dan (the Man) on May 12, 2005, 03:51:39 PM
Today I ordered the DVD sets of Dasterdly and Mutley and their Flying Machines and The Perils of Penelope Pitstop which were released this week.  I know these cartoon were on the cheesy side, but I adored them as a youngen (and I had a lot of fun watching the Wacky Races set.)

Two other Hanna-Barbara shows from the 70s I hope eventually get released:  Where's Huddles (about a professional football player's family and friends) and Wait Till Your Father Gets Home (a generation gap comedy.)  It would be fun to see them again.
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: Ron Pulliam on May 12, 2005, 03:52:54 PM
[Jacques:]
Cinderelly, Cinderelly
Night and day it's Cinderelly
Make the fire, fix the breakfast
Wash the dishes, do the mopping

[Girl mice:]
And the sweeping and the dusting
They always keep her hopping

[Jacques:]
She goes around in circles
Till she's very, very dizzy
Still they holler

[Girl mice:]
Keep a-busy Cinderelly!
We can do it, we can do it
We can help our Cinderelly
We can make her dress so pretty
There's nothing to it, really
We'll tie a sash around it
Put a ribbon through it
When dancing at the ball
She'll be more beautiful than all
In the lovely dress we'll make for Cinderelly

Hurry, hurry, hurry, hurry
Gonna help our Cinderelly
Got no time to dilly-dally
We gotta get a-goin'

[Gus-Gus:]
I'll cut with these scissors!

[Jacques:]
And I can do the sewing!

[Girl Mouse:]
Leave the sewing to the women
You go get some trimmin'
And we'll make a lovely dress for
Cinderelly!

[Girl mice and Gus-Gus:]
We'll make a lovely dress for
Cinderelly!
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: Ron Pulliam on May 12, 2005, 03:54:51 PM
The "Work Song" from "Cinderella" has been buzzing through my head all afternoon.

I don't know why...............
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Post by: vixmom on May 12, 2005, 03:56:05 PM
I just get on and the Vixter announces she needs the computer for some school research so off I go again... laters!
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Post by: George on May 12, 2005, 03:56:56 PM
Final examination question:  How would you solve the staging problems for a production of PEER GYNT?

Answer:  Do it on the radio.

I LOVE "Educating Rita!"  I didn't realize that it was written by Willy Russell who wrote "Blood Brothers" and I didn't know that he also wrote "Shirley Valentine!"  I (on an whim) just bought both DVDs ("Rita" and "Shirley") from amazon.co.uk.  Modern technology...ain't it amazing! ;D
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Post by: Jane on May 12, 2005, 04:03:07 PM
Favorites from the ones named so far:
TRINITY
THE THREE MUSKETEERS
A TALE OF TWO CITIES.
LITTLE WOMEN
THE AMAZING ADVENTURES OF KAVALIER & CLAY

More favorites:
CLAN OF THE CAVE BEAR
WAR AND PEACE
KILLER ANGELS
LASTOF THE MOHICANS
THE GOOD EARTH
SPRING MOON
RAMONA Helen Hunt Jackson (not the children’s story)
LES MISERABLES
THE SHAMAN’S DAUGHTER

Just about anything by Irving Stone, favorites are:
THE PRESIDENT’S LADY
LOVE IS ETERNAL
THE ORIGIN
DEPTHS OF GLORY
THE PASSIONS OF THE MIND

Can you tell I’m a fan of historical novels?

I must stop now.  While I’m walking I’m sure I will think of more books to name.

 
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: Jrand74 on May 12, 2005, 04:08:32 PM
The Phantom of the Opera by Gaston Leroux
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: Ron Pulliam on May 12, 2005, 04:13:33 PM
Never heard of it.
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: Jrand74 on May 12, 2005, 04:48:15 PM
I would loan you my copy but I loaned it to Sir Andrew LW....he wanted something to read on vacation.
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Post by: Jrand74 on May 12, 2005, 04:48:39 PM
Mexican Cinema Night on TCM....
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: bk on May 12, 2005, 05:02:05 PM
I cannot speak highly enough of Peeping Tom.  To think that this four-star masterpiece basically ended the brilliant Michael Powell's career is heartbreaking and nauseating.  There were critics in England who actually said things like "this vile film and its creator should be flushed down the loo."  I mean, respected film critics who, of course, have all revised their thoughts and now consider it a masterpiece.  They are not contrite, however, they don't see the harm they did, they just quietly forget their inane rantings and pretend they never thought ill of the film.  The interesting thing is that Psycho, a film released the same year as Peeping Tom, and a film just as dark and disturbing as Peeping Tom, made Hitch even richer and more famous than he'd ever been.  And  Eyes Without a Face, an equally disturbing and poetic film, also made its director even more well thought of - it, too, came out at the same time, in fact, a bit earlier.
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Post by: S. Woody White on May 12, 2005, 05:02:21 PM
The "Work Song" from "Cinderella" has been buzzing through my head all afternoon.

I don't know why...............
So, which mouse do you identify with, Jacques or Gus-Gus?

 8)
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Post by: bk on May 12, 2005, 05:03:26 PM
There are so many interesting things floating around in the ether right now - I'm praying at least a couple of them end up landing successfully, because they're all fascinating and would be much fun.  I'm completely energized right now.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on May 12, 2005, 05:46:48 PM
OK... Time for an e-break...

OH!... And Edy's All Fruit bars were on sale too... Coconut!

:)

Laters...
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Post by: Charles Pogue on May 12, 2005, 05:48:00 PM
I share the high regard for PEEPING TOM and enjoy Anna Massey in almost anything I've ever seen her in...although she is one of the oddest looking women I've ever seen.
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: elmore3003 on May 12, 2005, 05:51:05 PM
Well, my diva whose act I'm working on has pulled again her "I'm too poor to afford all this work," as she did last year, and it pisses the hell out of me.  I think this is the last time I'll do any work for her.

So, while I'm testy, I'll respond by saying LITTLE WOMEN is not a historical novel, in my opinion, since it was an autobiographical novel written in the author's current time frame, just as DAVID COPPERFIELD and OLIVER TWIST are not historical novels.  A TALE OF TWO CITIES is, however, since it takes place about 70 years earlier than the time it was written.



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Post by: Ginny on May 12, 2005, 06:17:38 PM
So, while I'm testy, I'll respond by saying LITTLE WOMEN is not a historical novel, in my opinion, since it was an autobiographical novel written in the author's current time frame, just as DAVID COPPERFIELD and OLIVER TWIST are not historical novels.  A TALE OF TWO CITIES is, however, since it takes place about 70 years earlier than the time it was written.

DR elmore, I'm sorry the work you're pushing to finish is less than  satisfying.  Here's something I found earlier about historical fiction that goes along with your comments:

"To be deemed historical (in our sense), a novel must have been written at least fifty years after the events described, or have been written by someone who was not alive at the time of those events (who therefore approaches them only by research)."

This is from www.historicalnovelsociety.org (http://www.historicalnovelsociety.org), which has lots of information pertaining to the genre.  Jane and others who like such reading will find a lot there of interest.
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: JoseSPiano on May 12, 2005, 06:24:13 PM
Well, my diva whose act I'm working on has pulled again her "I'm too poor to afford all this work," as she did last year, and it pisses the hell out of me.  I think this is the last time I'll do any work for her.

Well, I remember when said diva also happened to "forget" a matinee she had at the Kennedy Center.  Oh... And how she "conveniently" did not sing the high E-flat she was basically hired to sing in said show.  Oh... And then there was the "broken rib" after the car accident...

-I better stop now...

;)
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Post by: JoseSPiano on May 12, 2005, 06:29:37 PM
And now picture time!!

Here's another pic of the gang from the Indy gathering...
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Post by: JoseSPiano on May 12, 2005, 06:30:12 PM
Elvis Sighting #1
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Post by: JoseSPiano on May 12, 2005, 06:31:15 PM
Elvis Sighting #2
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Post by: JoseSPiano on May 12, 2005, 06:36:07 PM
And here I am with my centerpiece from the reception in Memphis.  The Volunteer Staff provided the food as well as the atmosphere.  One of the very kind ladies made centerpieces for each of the tables.  Each table had a different selection of "bridesmaids".  And I should point out that each "bridesmaid" was dressed separately by said kind lady.  None of the dresses were pre-made.  Quite a labor of love.  I named mine "Pia" and "Nia".

:)
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Post by: Ginny on May 12, 2005, 06:36:12 PM
DR Jose - thanks for the Mamma Mia memories!  When do you rejoin them?
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Post by: JoseSPiano on May 12, 2005, 06:37:28 PM
And, finally, here's Mr. Kevin Ashling modeling one of his many t-shirts.  I thought it was very appropriate for at least one DR of this here site.

:)
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Post by: JoseSPiano on May 12, 2005, 06:43:14 PM
DR Jose - thanks for the Mamma Mia memories!  When do you rejoin them?

I start back up next Tuesday at 3:00pm.  I'm in for the first week of the show.  During that first week, someone will be shadowing/observing me since he will be taking over my book/keyboard during the second week of the show.  And that's when I go on-call... Of course, the contractor only informed me of this situation on Tuesday, so... And then it looks like the contractor wants to "share the wealth" between me and two other keyboard players...   And once a third keyboard player finishes his current show, the contractor wants to bring him on board too...  So...

:-\

I may end up in NYC sooner rather than later...

We'll see...

*But it's not really win-lose situation. Other irons are in the fire, and the extra time at home will be nice.  And since I'm not paying rent or utilities while at my folks...  ;)

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Post by: S. Woody White on May 12, 2005, 06:47:19 PM
Time to get dinner made.  Nothing fancy, just some ravioli and sausage we got from Trader Joe's, and a salad on the side.

I really shouldn't be hungry.  I've been reading a blog by a waiter, called Waiter Rant (http://waiterrant.blogspot.com/).  Funny, funny stuff, if four-letter foul, but some of it really isn't appetizing.  Bon Appetit.

And, mentioning Bon Appetit, the new issue of that mag has something absolutely obscene smack dab in the middle...a huge ad from McDonald's.  It's not just an ad, it's done "pop-up" style.

McDonald's is evil.
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: bk on May 12, 2005, 07:06:56 PM
I'm trying to figure out what I feel like watching - I think it will be The Burglars with Jean Paul Belmondo, an early seventies caper film from France that I've never seen.  Or, maybe Two for the Seesaw.  Or maybe I'll watch something I've TIVOd.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on May 12, 2005, 07:15:11 PM
OMG!!!!

Steve has been checking out the new On Demand features on/in/with his digital cable service.  He came across something I had heard about a few months ago, but just didn't realize had come to fruition...

Dating On Demand

So now you can bring up Video Personals On Demand from the comfort of your living room or wherever you watch TV.  Are you lonesome tonight?

;)
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Post by: JoseSPiano on May 12, 2005, 07:22:15 PM
OMG!!!

There are now Voice Lessons On Demand - and Guitar and Piano Lessons too!  But the Voice Lessons series is basically comprised of clips from that new DVD that "Randy and Paula" are hawking right now.

We're now previewing Lesson #4... Scary!!!
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: MBarnum on May 12, 2005, 07:24:07 PM
Today I ordered the DVD sets of Dasterdly and Mutley and their Flying Machines and The Perils of Penelope Pitstop which were released this week.  I know these cartoon were on the cheesy side, but I adored them as a youngen (and I had a lot of fun watching the Wacky Races set.)


Oh my gosh Dan, I have very fond memories of all of those cartoons!
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Post by: Jane on May 12, 2005, 07:28:46 PM
Jose, nice photos-thanks.
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Post by: Jane on May 12, 2005, 07:31:41 PM

"To be deemed historical (in our sense), a novel must have been written at least fifty years after the events described, or have been written by someone who was not alive at the time of those events (who therefore approaches them only by research)."

This is from www.historicalnovelsociety.org (http://www.historicalnovelsociety.org), which has lots of information pertaining to the genre.  Jane and others who like such reading will find a lot there of interest.

I passed that site up as, at first glance, I didn’t see a list of historical novels on it.  Initially I didn’t think of LITTLE WOMEN as an historical novel until I found it listed on another site.  I’m surprised THE SECRET GARDEN is listed on their site.  While it is one of my favorite books (I sure have a lot of those) I don’t think of it as an historical novel.

So, LW is off my list but I have come up with four more to add ;D:

AND LADIES OF THE CLUB-Helen Hooven Santmyer
NICHOLIS AND ALEXANDRA-Robert K. Massie
WOMEN OF SILK-Gail Tsukiyama,
DANCING AT THE RASCAL FAIR-Ivan Doig

Bette Bao Lord, the author of SPRING MOON is a fascinating woman. http://www.galegroup.com/free_resources/whm/bio/lord_b.htm  
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Post by: Matt H. on May 12, 2005, 08:04:40 PM
Well, I have a new son in LA CAGE, and he's exactly whom I had envisioned for the part all along. As I mentioned the other night, he played BArrett in TITANIC, and he's the right age and a much better actor and singer than the previous Jean-Michel. I couldn't be happier.

Of course, rehearsals were deadly tonight trying to catch him up, but he's a pro and will get up to speed in no time, I'm guessing.
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Post by: Matt H. on May 12, 2005, 08:09:17 PM
My DVR is so full of stuff to watch, I could EASILY watch just those things over the weekend and give the DVD machine a break, but I want to play more with it and will HAVE to watch some never-viewed-before DVDs this weekend on it. Thniking now what I'll select so I can have it for tomorrow's media check.
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Post by: Matt H. on May 12, 2005, 08:10:53 PM
Horse races is right. I thought Michael Caine was awful in THE CIDER HOUSE RULES; naturally, it won him an Oscar. His accent was not very authentic, and it kept coming and going. I said in my review then, and I still think that Delroy Lindo gave the Oscar-winning performance in that film.
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Post by: Matt H. on May 12, 2005, 08:12:54 PM
As for the historical fiction qualification question, I don't look at it from the perspective of the original writer. You're right, it might NOT have been historical fiction when the book was originally written. But as the historical period is now over a century from when I'm presently living, in my eyes, it IS historical fiction: it's fiction that takes place in a time prior to my own.
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Post by: Matt H. on May 12, 2005, 08:14:16 PM
It almost got to 90 today. We had a nice rainstorm around 9 tonight that cooled everything off. Otherwise, I was thinking I might have to turn on my air conditioning tomorrow. But only supposed to be in the high 70s tomorrow.
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on May 12, 2005, 09:01:33 PM
Two more favorite hysterical historical novels:  Dr. Zhivago and Leon Uris' Trinity.

WHen I checked my e-mail tonight I saw a message from Amazon about a shipment.  I discovered that I had only ordered the Dick Dasterdly DVD set I mentioned earlier.  Now I have to order the Penelope Pitstop set seperately.  Grrrr.

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Post by: bk on May 12, 2005, 09:43:34 PM
9:30 and the jernt is empty.  This is what makes me TRUCULENT.  I thought everyone understood that we had a new dictum.  Perhaps I just need to do a little something to show that dictums are not to be ignored.  We must never ignore our dictums.  I do hope and trust there will be some people here between now and midnight.

I just finished last night's Alias.  Miss Garner's directorial debut took the show to a new low - possibly the nadir of the entire series.  Of course, not a lot of that has to do with her - the show is a well-oiled machine and it doesn't really matter who the director is.  The DP probably called most of the shots except the amateur attempts to be "with it", which were embarrassing.  The writing was horrible (shockingly, the script was by Jon Robin Baitz, who should know better, except he was paid lots of moolah - I gather he has some "connection" to Ron Rifkin, if you get my meaning, since Mr. Baitz wrote the play The Substance of Fire which brought Mr. Rifkin the kind of acclaim he'd never had before), and the bathos that went on made me nauseus.  Of all the people to bring back, did we need Amy Irving?  Joel Grey is always fun to watch.  I've stuck it out this long, so I will watch until the end of the season, which is just a handful of shows, but that will be it for Alias, which has simply worn out its welcome and run out of steam.  The first seasons, while wacky, had such craziness and spirit and wildness, that it was compulsive viewing.  Now it's just relentlessly stupid.  If  the creators can't keep up with the demands that they themselves created, then it is time for the network to pull the plug or the creators to walk away or bring in new blood.
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Post by: bk on May 12, 2005, 10:01:54 PM
Nobody here in over an hour, eh?  I guess no one believes me about the dictum, eh?  O-kay.
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Post by: bk on May 12, 2005, 10:30:19 PM
I'm sort of hungry, but I don't have one edible thing in the house.  Horrible.  Since no one can be bothered to be here after nine any more I think I'll just close her up until the notes.  Ta.
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Post by: bk on May 12, 2005, 11:04:47 PM
Well, a couple of people have arrived, so I've reopened the jernt.  However, if this continues to be the new routine, this complete lack of people from nine on, then I will continue to lock up the jernt until midnight - I have written about this in the notes, along with my reasoning.
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Post by: Tomovoz on May 12, 2005, 11:17:15 PM
I've spent some time (understandably) listening to "Seussical" today.. I really enjoy the work of F & A.

I shall be truant for the whole of next week. I'm hoping OzDerek will say hello for me now and then. I would rather be here than where I'm going.
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Post by: bk on May 12, 2005, 11:37:11 PM
So, let me get this straight - both George and Jed were here.  I reopened the room for them and then they read and LEFT without POSTING???

My path is clear, darlings.

We'll miss you, tomovoz.  Hurry back.
Title: Re:THE NEW DICTUM
Post by: Tomovoz on May 12, 2005, 11:47:16 PM
Thanks BK. I"ll be here over the next two days.