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Title: THE DROWSY BK
Post by: bk on November 22, 2005, 12:18:51 AM
Well, you've read the notes, the notes have illuminated you, you have illuminated the notes, and now it is time for you to post until The Drowsy Cows come home.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: bk on November 22, 2005, 12:19:14 AM
And the word of the day is: WISTERIA!
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: George on November 22, 2005, 12:51:01 AM
Topic of the Day:  I have no idea.  I've wondered if the microphone had something to do with it, though.  It's a different technique with the mic than without...for the most part.  Right?
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: bk on November 22, 2005, 12:53:22 AM
It's not just the mic - it's a whole different tone, a whole different style, and a whole different sound.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: S. Woody White on November 22, 2005, 03:48:34 AM
I'm blaming Jose.  Jose and his blankety-blank head mikes.  It's all part of his evil plot for pianos to take over the world.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: S. Woody White on November 22, 2005, 03:53:13 AM
It's raining in Rehoboth Beach.

That's for those of you who care about how wet it is.

I'm blaming Jose for that, too.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ben on November 22, 2005, 04:38:27 AM
Cold rainy morning here in NYC.

I had a great dinner last night with Michael Shayne, Larry Moore and Fred Landau. The time came to talk of many things: Of shoes--and ships--and sealing-wax--Of cabbages--and kings--And why the sea is boiling hot--And whether pigs have wings.

Oh, yes, we also spoke of many Hainsies and Kimlets. Ears must have been burning from the West Coast to the East with stops all over the U.S. I had the Broadway Chicken Sandwich, Michael had Salmon, Larry had a Cheddar Burger and Fred had a cheeseburger but I forget which cheese was melted. Three of us had dessert, Boston Cheesecake (me), New York Cheesecake (Larry) and vanilla ice cream (a She Loves Me reference while speaking of Michael).

I have my performance evaluation tomorrow at 10am and then I leave the office at 11:30am.

We might see a production of Cats on Friday. A friend is doing it on Long Island at the Smithtown Center for the Performing Arts. He's trying to get us into the final dress. It opens on Saturday. If we can't get into the final dress we probably won't go.

There are some good voices on Broadway right now but the sound certainly has changed. No bout adout it (sic). I don't know why it's changed although I do think audiences are different now and they don't know from the old sound. Also, the younger audiences are used to a pop sound and if you're trying to get younger butts on seats, you try to give them what they want.

"There are no Wisteria trees on my block"
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ben on November 22, 2005, 04:40:54 AM
And I am all alone here at 7:40am.

Even when I leave I shall probably be noted at the top of the board as being on-line but I'm not, I'm not. I'm re-writing part of a training manual for our department. It's one of the last things I will be doing this year.

I'm free associating right now. I need to go upstairs to the mail room/supply room and get one of those desk calendars. They didn't deliver mine in the inter-office mail and I need one.

And with that I will move to other spaces, other places.

That's the title of my next novel, Other Spaces, Other Places.

Bye!
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: elmore3003 on November 22, 2005, 05:20:14 AM
Good morning, all!  Today Skip Kennon comes to Toyland to help us with our final proof.  Meeting at 11:00.

Beyond that, I have no thoughtsd for the day beyond dropping off this Mario Frangoulis piece and picking up something else from my producer.

DRSWW, I forgot to answer your question about the HARRY POTTER score, which I loved but found a wholly different aural experience from a John Williams score.  I didn't catch any Samuel Barber reference, but I realize that the score, except in some moments where the music took over, wasn't my primary focus.  If the reference occurs where I believe you meant, the music was truly appropriate or I would have noticed.  The two spots of music I remember are the delightful waltz at the ball and some wonderful bits with lots of celesta.  I want to get the soundtrack to hear it again.

Vocal styles have indeed changed, and I blame HAIR.  and Jose.

What I don't like are revisicals with these pop voices being asked to take on roles they're vocally unsuited for, like Stokes Mitchell in KISS ME, KATE or MAN OF LA MANCHA (or SOUTH PACIFIC).  Stokes Mitchell can be a fine singer, but I don't want to hear him singing material I'd prefer to hear a Bryn Terfel baritone doing.

Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: FJL on November 22, 2005, 05:45:27 AM
It was  a lovely dinner at Barrymore's with Ben, Larry and Michael.  It was truly a joy meeting Michael for the first time, and would have been EVEN more of a joy had Joy stopped by  :) , and wonderful seeing Larry and Ben again.  Thanks so much to Larry for having arranged it.  

Since these notes are here for posterity, I just wanted to add that the cheese on my burger was of the swiss variety.  And while I was not listed as having dessert, I wouldn't want anyone to think I've been dieting;  that was a result of my having had as an appetizer an order of chicken fingers which I had been assured was an appetizer portion but turned out not to be fingers but five actual almost-full-size chicken cutlets.  So calorically, I decided that my appetizer was my dessert, and that somehow made sense for me.

Then of course, I went home and had a Kit Kat bar.  :(
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Matt H. on November 22, 2005, 06:40:15 AM
Good morning!

The rain clouds have cleared away for a couple of days and we have some beautiful fall weather here. Temps will be dropping drastically tonight, but for now, we're loving this very moderate climate.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Matt H. on November 22, 2005, 06:43:59 AM
I guess Broadway singing styles have changed, but I think more of it has to do with the types of music the vocalists are singing. They're going to sing Elton John's AIDA differently than RAGTIME.

But I'm certainly no music expert and wouldn't begin to be able to note when the changes occurred.

I find it very funny that when someone on AMERICAN IDOL sings a song straight without much embellishment or melisma, the judges call that "Broadway" singing. They must not have been to a Broadway theater lately.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Matt H. on November 22, 2005, 06:44:46 AM
My friend and I are going to the noon showing HARRY POTTER today, so I'll be back in the late afternoon with my feelings about the film. I promise - no spoilers.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Matt H. on November 22, 2005, 06:46:12 AM
I didn't get any packages yesterday, and if I don't get any today, I'll find something on the shelf to watch that I haven't already seen on DVD. I was kind of eyeing ABSENCE OF MALICE last night.

I also have CSI: MIAMI from last night to watch.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: td on November 22, 2005, 06:49:17 AM
Hmmm. . .about that TOD. . .
Did Babs bring the bevy of belters with her when she was in FUNNY GIRL?
As for those voices of yore:
Alfred Drake
Richard Kiley
John Raitt
Robert Morse, whose spirit lives on in Norbert Leo Butz
Harold Lang
Barbara Cook
Judy Holliday
Susan Johnson
Jo Sullivan, whose spirit lives on in Emily Loesser
Vivian Segal
Judy Tyler
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Matt H. on November 22, 2005, 06:52:26 AM
Just a note of something ironic I read yesterday in VARIETY.

For those who have been following the move toward high definition DVDs that is coming up in 2006, there are two warring factions who have different formats for high def DVDs. The version that has gotten the most studio and manufacturer support thus far as been Blu-Ray originated by Sony.

At various electronics shows for the last couple of years, Sony has been showing prototypes of the Blu-Ray HD system but they have never had a complete film mastering in high definition to show off their system. They've always used excerpts from various movies.

Well, yesterday, Sony announced their first totally high definition movie on Blu-Ray disc.

And what monumental cinematic masterpiece did they choose to show off the best of picture and sound on Blu-Ray?

A James Bond movie perhaps? Or CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND maybe? Or possibly a musical like FUNNY GIRL or OLIVER!

Nope!

Their premiere Blu-Ray high definition movie choice is:



(wait for it)






(here it comes)







CHARLIE'S ANGELS: FULL THROTTLE.






No wonder the movie business is in such turmoil.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Matt H. on November 22, 2005, 06:57:04 AM
Favorite theater voices from days gone by:

Julie Andrews (first and foremost)

Barbara Cook

Alfred Drake

John Raitt

Mary Martin

John Reardon

Angela Lansbury
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Matt H. on November 22, 2005, 06:57:26 AM
Oops (Spoo), forgot one:

Susan Johnson
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: vixmom on November 22, 2005, 07:20:03 AM
God Morning I have not caught up to last night.  Just wanted to say good morning and thank you,  thank you to MattH for the DVD... getting Medium was nice but the extras were a wonderful suprise!

You have a beautiful voice and I am very pleased to have these little selections. Thank you so much.

The Medium you sent me did indeed have the little grey bars tops & bottom that you mentioned but I found them not a bit distracting and I must say the picture quality was absolutely amazing.  (You would cry if you saw the normal quality on our TV)

Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: vixmom on November 22, 2005, 07:23:18 AM
Speaking of medium... I have another complaint to lay at Jose's door.... as we all know last night was the BIG 3-D EPISODE!!!!  There were little 3_D bits scattered throughout... but there i am watching and the big scene comes  'Here Allison here are all 45  oil paintings" (the only time we really needed the 3D were to look at the oil paintings)


AND THE POWER GOES OUT IN MY WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD!!!

 Oh, it came back on, yes it came back on within moments, within moments of the scene being over!!

Oh that Jose!!!
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: td on November 22, 2005, 07:23:23 AM
Oops (Spoo), forgot one, too (thanks DR Matt H):
Dame Julie, of course!

Which brings me back to:
Robert Goulet! (Robert Goulet! My God! Robert Goulet!)

Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Matt H. on November 22, 2005, 07:24:26 AM
Hey, DR Vixmom, I'm glad you got the disc and enjoyed the selections. I appreciate the kind words.

I admit I am very spoiled now when it comes to TV reception. You get used to a certain level of clarity in the image once you jump to HD, and when you have to endure some channels which come in fuzzy and grainy, even over digital cable, it's pretty unbearable.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Dan (the Man) on November 22, 2005, 07:24:58 AM
TOD:

I'm not completely sure, but I would think that vocal styles first began to change with the development of the concept musical.  While the straightforward musicals of the early part of the century preferred singers who were trained, sang technically well and pleasantly, too, the concept musicals stressed performances in character, which didn't always require a classically trained voice.  For example, I'm thinking of Jill Haworth as Sally Bowles, half the dancers in A CHORUS LINE, Jerry Orbach (normally a fine singer) grating his voice through CHICAGO.  I'm not saying these people sang badly, but that the shows that came along from the late 60s and thru the next 25 years had a more relaxed and naturalistic bent and this is reflected in the vocal performances of the period.  Pretty voices still existed, but the reason behind the prettiness was now a conscious choice and not just the norm.

There was another change in the mid 90s, and I have no idea how it came about.  But suddenly there were Celine Dion-esque howl-a-thons like SIDE SHOW, JEKYLL & HYDE and RENT with vocal pyrotechnics that existed for their own sake.  This was before American Idol, so it can't be blamed on that (though there's been a lot more since the show became so popular.)  Maybe this is some kind of influence from the Andrew Lloyd-Webber days or it's a desire on the part of composers to appeal to the vocal diva fans.  I'm not sure where it came from, but I certainly do not like it.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Matt H. on November 22, 2005, 07:27:33 AM
Yes, Robert Goulet slipped my mind too, DR td, and I'd definitely include him. Seeing him live on stage in THE HAPPY TIME was one of my most memorable theater experiences, and I fell instantly in love with him in that show.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Matt H. on November 22, 2005, 07:29:17 AM
I need to go get ready for my HARRY POTTER outing.

WBBL.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: MBarnum on November 22, 2005, 07:36:26 AM
I don't really know from Broadway singers....but, as DR Elmore3003 knows I am not a big fan of the "Broadway style" of singing. It wouldn't keep me from seeing a show, however...but for instance, for listening to a CD I  much prefer to hear the "soundtrack" from the film version of FLOWER DRUM SONG over the "cast album" of the Broadway version.

As for Broadway singers...Tom Wopat and Keith Andes are two that I enjoy.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ginny on November 22, 2005, 07:52:37 AM
TOD - I agree that material and microphones seem, to a humble ticket-buyer, to have influenced Broadway singing.  Voice choices from the past, in addition to those previously-mentioned:

Male:  Harve Presnell

Female:  Mimi Hines - Fanny in the Broadway Funny Girl I saw in 1967; more recently, I have enjoyed Christine Andreas.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: vixmom on November 22, 2005, 07:54:28 AM
MBarnum I have been remiss in offering my condolences on the loss of your friend.  I am truly sorry.  :-*



I have also been remiss on extending my congratulations on the new addition to your family,  :D Welcome to Hildy!! (Leisel is a nice name too)


Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: vixmom on November 22, 2005, 07:57:07 AM
Special note to all HHWers who have recently lost weight..



DO NOT WORRY!!!!

 I have found it... it is right here in my pants... come and get it!
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: vixmom on November 22, 2005, 07:57:57 AM



My Aunt Teria is going to miss Thanksgiving dinner with us this year.  As we are all sitting around the table  I know what my Mom will say




























" I wis' Teria was here.................."
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Jrand74 on November 22, 2005, 07:58:18 AM
I am stuck at this weight, and so I can't get into a contest....maybe if my will power kicks in....otherwise DRJOSE and DRJOY can duke it out!

DR JANE I have lost a total of 34 pounds, which makes life much easier and the clothes fit much nicer.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Jrand74 on November 22, 2005, 08:00:58 AM
I agree with DR MATTH - Neil Patrick Harris is the best thing on HOW I MET YOUR MOTHER....the other performers are so uninteresting as to be BLAND, but the writing is the real culprit.  I thought it was FINALLY over last night, but it turns out I had only seen 20 minutes of it .... whew!

OUT OF PRACTICE does have some sharp writing and some great pros in Stockard Channing and Henry Winkler - both of whom have such wonderful REACTIONS to things - the three actors playing their children are okay.  The oldest son who is supposed to be a BIG womanizer seems a bit fey to me - but what do I know?
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Jrand74 on November 22, 2005, 08:02:11 AM
I will not discuss Broadway singers.  My feelings are well known and well criticised - but my feelings will not change.

I agree with DR ELMORE that the change seems to have started around the time of HAIR but I will also add DREAMGIRLS.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Jrand74 on November 22, 2005, 08:08:24 AM
Page Two Dreamgirls dance!  8)

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Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 08:11:02 AM
With all the Thanksgiving programming this week, I have been reminiscing wistfully about Thanksgivings past, most notably about those when my mom was preparing dinner for family.  I gues you could say that I am wistful about the states of "wisteria" she would get into trying to make everything perfect.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Jrand74 on November 22, 2005, 08:11:36 AM
I also think the first 3-D effect of the painted falling onto the screen and the kitchen knife dispatch were great on MEDIUM last night.

But I only watched the first half, I was getting a headache.

DRMBARNUM....Thanksgiving comes but once a year.  And you have a new car with a new window.  Make a nice CD of Bollywood music and enjoy the drive!
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 08:15:11 AM
I was So-o-o tired last night that I didn't think I'd last til 9 o'clock, much less "Medium."

Somehow, though, I managed.

Loved the 3-D effects, but I wish the effects had yielded some clues vital to the outcome of the story (which was pretty darned good).

I, too, enjoyed "Out of Practice," but I wish Henry Winkler would stay behind the camera.  No way would Stockard Channing EVER been married to him.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 08:17:27 AM
Boy!  This week is flying by (NOT!).  So, today is officially Wednesday as far as work days go.

Nothing special going on today, so far as I know.  Tomorrow is the birthday lunch for my boss at a nice local Italian restaurant.

Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 08:19:02 AM
Hmmmm....if "Lord of the Rings" had centered more on Samwise Gamgee, gardener, instead of Frodo, would the Oscar-winning song for "Return of the King" been titled "Into the Wisteria"?
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 08:19:43 AM
If I'm sounding a tad wisterical this morning, it's because I'm still sleepy and haven't had more than a few sips of my daily cup of coffee.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 08:27:04 AM
What you see is what you get...when you just sit there looking and don't post.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 08:27:34 AM
I can post till the cows come home...and you can ask BK just how long THAT takes.

Those cows ain't in any hurry to come home.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 08:28:59 AM
Speaking of cows, has Borden's totally folded?  I haven't seen hide ner hair of Elsie or Elmer in ages.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ginny on November 22, 2005, 08:29:22 AM
DR MBarnum - My sister and I have done many of those "meet halfway" routines (between southern Michigan and southern Ohio) to exchange our mom (who lives near me) for holiday visits.  This week, my sister and her husband are coming here, as is their daughter from Illinois.  I keep getting emails from my mother, announcing who's leaving home when, how worried they are about a snow prediction, and who's staying how long.  She doesn't cope well, at almost 87 (her birthday is Sunday), with this kind of uncertainty.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: vixmom on November 22, 2005, 08:30:20 AM
So what are you doing for the big T Day Mr. Ron?
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Jason on November 22, 2005, 08:31:22 AM
Good day, all.

The opening night of SEASCAPE was a disappointment, indeed. No red carpet...no celebs. Just me and a very odd play that made me feel stupid when I left the theatre. I "got it" while I was watching it, but when I left the theatre and had to think about it, I just didn't understand what I'd seen. I doubt that I'm the only who feels that way, but it's never pleasant to feel dumb.

Anywho...I have just been invited to a screening of "Rent" tonight at 7:00. Most of the cast will be there for a Q&A, so that should be interesting.

TOD: I believe vocal styles on Broadway, like vocal styles on the radio, have evolved with the what the general population wants to hear. Broadway is, after all, a form of popular entertainment. I'll agree with DR Elmore and say the "sound" started changing with HAIR, and how.

As a singer, I can speak technically about why the vocal styles have changed - Merman-sized voices aren't required when one has a microphone on one's forehead. "Trained" singers aren't needed for their strong voices anymore - the mic can help you get through eight shows a week, so technique isn't so much of an issue anymore. One can't deny that you must have a strong technique to sing "Defying Gravity" eight times a week, but one can't deny that it'd be difficult for even the best of singers to get through eight performances of it a week without ampilification.

As much as I love some of those old-school Broadway voices and writers, I think Broadway very likely would have ceased to exist by now if all we had were Mermans and Porters and R&Hs. They were the popular artists of their time - not now. I know a lot of people feel that Broadway is a dying art. I say it's an evolving art. If it DIDN'T evolve it'd be completely defunct.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: vixmom on November 22, 2005, 08:35:36 AM
Speaking of cows, has Borden's totally folded?  I haven't seen hide ner hair of Elsie or Elmer in ages.

I think they are called Eagle brand now, but Elsie is still on the label.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ginny on November 22, 2005, 08:36:52 AM
Sort of TOD - One of my pet peeves, which we see a lot in high school musicals around here, is the casting of kids who can sing and dance, but can't act their way out of a paper bag.  Which is why we see Laurie's who just stick out their lower lip and pout (yes, DR elmore, second generation!).
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ginny on November 22, 2005, 08:38:39 AM
Oh, man, I so don't want to be at work today!  DH Richard is home making pumpkin pies.  When I leave here at 6pm, I won't have to come back until Monday - hoo and ray!
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 08:43:22 AM
So what are you doing for the big T Day Mr. Ron?

Doing?  DOING?

Well, a pork loin roast.

The cranberry-pear relish mentioned two days ago.

And something with yams...

Oh, yes...I'm moved to do "The Yam", I think.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 08:45:15 AM
As much as I love some of those old-school Broadway voices and writers, I think Broadway very likely would have ceased to exist by now if all we had were Mermans and Porters and R&Hs. They were the popular artists of their time - not now. I know a lot of people feel that Broadway is a dying art. I say it's an evolving art. If it DIDN'T evolve it'd be completely defunct.

From what I've heard, it's mostly a DEvolving art.

Along with the so-called pop music culture of our present time.

My $.02!
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Michael on November 22, 2005, 08:46:19 AM
Hello from Times Square where it is wet, damp and coldish.

Last night had a wonderful dinner and gabfest with Larry, Ben and Fred. We dished the dirt and when we thought there was no more to be dished we found some more to dish.

We had dinner at Barrymore's. My first and last time as when I come back to NYC the next time it will be gone. SAD

Today I am off to the Museum of Broadcasting meeting a friend from Florida who has moved up here. Dinner and Judy Kaye in Souvenir.

Stop off at the Drama Bookshop where they keep BK's book Writer's Block in the non-fiction writing section.

Well that;s it for now.

Tata
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 08:49:58 AM
I have a theory -- yes, a theory!

It's that there are so many people out there who want to believe that they, too, can have a career in entertainment...that they, too, can sing, or dance...that they're willing to embrace (yes, EMBRACE!) any mediocre form of same as proof that ANYONE can be a star despite a lack of talent.

And I don't mean a singing voice, or the ability to tap or do a little dancing...

And that's why the phenomenon of "American Idol" works so well in the TV ratings.  I haven't heard a single song by Kelly or Clay since the competition that I would want to hear again.  They're being mass-marketed and the target audience is that mass that buy into the "anyone can be a star" theory.  The current state of affairs is being driven by this.

Real talent is RARE and there is not a profusion of it and it is not rife in all the arts....there are few, true, talented artists out there...and they get wasted, for the most part, singing mediocre material and performing mediocre choreography.

Nowhere does it rear its tacky, ugly head more obviously than in Hollywood, but it's on Broadway, too.

(Huge exhalation of breath)!
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Dan (the Man) on November 22, 2005, 08:52:41 AM
From what I've heard, it's mostly a DEvolving art.


Where is the Devo jukebox musical?

When a problem comes along
You must whip it
Before the cream sits out too long
You must whip it
When something's going wrong
You must whip it
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Jennifer on November 22, 2005, 08:52:43 AM
Re: last night's 3D MEDIUM.

Does anyone else here feel like different writers wrote the last 2 episodes?  The first ones in the season, all had many intricate twists and unexpected turns, yet the story was still incomplete at 9:50pm.  Yet the past 2 episodes (including last night's 3D) have been a bit more predictable, and have finished with plenty of time to spare (including many extra cute but unnessary scenes at the end).

I did enjoy last night's 3D show. And I think it was a good mix of 3D and not 3D. Since some people did not have the glasses i don't think it would have been fair to have the whole show 3D. Plus i think it would have hurt my eyes.

I liked how they showed us when to use the glasses (the little eyeball popped up in the left top corner). I think the show was quite good and I may watch those parts again.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 08:54:07 AM
Re: last night's 3D MEDIUM.

Does anyone else here feel like different writers wrote the last 2 episodes?

Not I.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Jrand74 on November 22, 2005, 08:56:38 AM
More coffee for DR RLP!
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: vixmom on November 22, 2005, 08:56:43 AM
Doing?  DOING?

Well, a pork loin roast.

The cranberry-pear relish mentioned two days ago.

And something with yams...

Oh, yes...I'm moved to do "The Yam", I think.

But are you eating this with friends or family or by yourself m'dear?
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Jason on November 22, 2005, 08:58:03 AM
Where is the Devo jukebox musical?

When a problem comes along
You must whip it
Before the cream sits out too long
You must whip it
When something's going wrong
You must whip it


HA!! DtM, you make-a me raff!
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: bk on November 22, 2005, 08:58:40 AM
I'm up, I'm up.  Got up at eight and had nineteen e-mails waiting to be answered.

If the young John Reardon walked into an audition today and sang the way he sang, he would not get a job.  It's not just Aida - I "get" rock musicals, and no, the singing required there is completely different to "regular" musicals.  However, Liz Callaway does not have a voice like gals of old - she has a completely different tone and style that is very much of today (in fact, she probably helped lead the way).  In other words, Liz Callaway/Barbara Cook - very different tones and styles.  Alice Ripley/Joan Weldon - very different tones and styles.  I know it began changing in the mid-60s, but I'm trying to determine exactly when.   Karen Morrow, who was coming up then, was in the Susan Johnson mold.  Jill O'Hara was definitely a different sound (and not a good one, at least not in Promises).  By A Chorus Line, we had the newer sound, but still had the Richard Kiley/Bob Goulet/John Reardon sound.  By 1985 the latter had all but disappeared.  And then, we began to have the loud belters (not like Ethel Merman - something completely different in tone and style), the Alice Ripley/Emily Skinner/Idina Menzel types, but, if you listen to my albums you will hear a very specific kind of female voice and it is not like female voices of old in any way, save for people like Judy Kaye, who still does the old thing, and Kristin Chenoweth, who CAN do the old thing if she feels like it.  The one gal who can also do it, and does do it, is Audra MacDonald.
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Post by: FJL on November 22, 2005, 09:03:56 AM
Michael - Your description of our dinner last night reminds me of the very old joke about what's the proper place setting for a dinner party in Provincetown:  fork, knife, spoon, dish, dish, dish, dish.
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Post by: Jrand74 on November 22, 2005, 09:05:20 AM
I have a theory -- yes, a theory!

It's that there are so many people out there who want to believe that they, too, can have a career in entertainment...that they, too, can sing, or dance...that they're willing to embrace (yes, EMBRACE!) any mediocre form of same as proof that ANYONE can be a star despite a lack of talent.

And I don't mean a singing voice, or the ability to tap or do a little dancing...

And that's why the phenomenon of "American Idol" works so well in the TV ratings.  I haven't heard a single song by Kelly or Clay since the competition that I would want to hear again.  They're being mass-marketed and the target audience is that mass that buy into the "anyone can be a star" theory.  The current state of affairs is being driven by this.

Real talent is RARE and there is not a profusion of it and it is not rife in all the arts....there are few, true, talented artists out there...and they get wasted, for the most part, singing mediocre material and performing mediocre choreography.

Nowhere does it rear its tacky, ugly head more obviously than in Hollywood, but it's on Broadway, too.

(Huge exhalation of breath)!

That just about says it.

It's NOT an improvement - devolving is a good word.  Changes in the entertainment industry don't HAVE to be embraced by every form of entertainment - and the yowling and growling that goes on in the Broadway theatre today is an irritation to me.  Of course the songs that are being growled and yowled are pretty irritating, too, so it's a small loss.

I hate RENT....I thought TOMMY was okay, but didn't like the changes to the ending of the story....I liked AIDA...I like the SCOUNDRELS score a lot, mostly Butz and not so much Lithgow, don't like him at all in anything... I like THE LIGHT IN THE PIAZZA....stuff like that there.

As for all these stars that never were....parking cars and pumping gas and reality television is in their near futures, I hope!   8)  
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Post by: Jrand74 on November 22, 2005, 09:08:09 AM
Well....Angela Lansbury in MAME and GYPSY (I have only heard the cast albums) was not so hot either...I don't think she can sing much...but there I have to stop discussing my unpopular opinions before a brouhaha breaks out here on Wisteria Lane.

I can't be convinced to change my mind - the opinions were not formed lightly.
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Post by: Jrand74 on November 22, 2005, 09:09:56 AM
Fortuna just emailed me with the subject line:  Get your effective aid for less here.
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Post by: Jrand74 on November 22, 2005, 09:11:05 AM
In my mailbox today:

STATE FAIR 60th ANNVERSARY EDITION
CHARLIE AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY w/s edition
BATMAN BEGINS w/s edition
THE CARDINAL - Criterion Special Edition Mint which I got for 16.60 including s/h
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Post by: Jason on November 22, 2005, 09:11:08 AM
Parking cars and pumping gas as punishment for someone following their dream, even if they may not have what others would consider "the right stuff?" Wow. I guess, then, for all the auditions I've gone to and wasn't cast cause I didn't have "the right stuff," I might as well go grab my overalls and an oil rag now and quit wasting my time... ;)
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Post by: Jrand74 on November 22, 2005, 09:13:05 AM
Parking cars and pumping gas as punishment for someone following their dream, even if they may not have what others would consider "the right stuff?" Wow. I guess, then, for all the auditions I've gone to and wasn't cast cause I didn't have "the right stuff," I might as well go grab my overalls and an oil rag now and quit wasting my time... ;)

I didn't say that.  :P

I hate the internet.  :o
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Post by: Jrand74 on November 22, 2005, 09:13:19 AM
Goodbye.
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Post by: Jason on November 22, 2005, 09:14:35 AM
I was just teasing, Jack.
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Post by: bk on November 22, 2005, 09:18:35 AM
Angela is not a voice you really can "listen" to on a CD, but it's the whole package that works onstage.  Never saw her in Mame, but she was really good in Gypsy and much more than that in Sweeney.

Differences of opinions are fine - especially when accompanied by smilies, so don't anyone go getting red-faced and storming off or I will hunt you down and make you listen to Rent for three days straight.
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Post by: bk on November 22, 2005, 09:21:01 AM
I will HUNT YOU DOWN and make you listen to John Lithgow's Greatest Hits until you want to rip your very eyes from their sockets.

Criterion didn't release The Cardinal - it's a Warners DVD.
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Post by: bk on November 22, 2005, 09:22:23 AM
WISTERIA, baby, WISTERIA!

My meeting place has been changed for the Linda Purl meeting.  I'm just waiting for directions - it will now be at her house, which means I won't be breakfasting, which means I can eat tonight whilst we're editing.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 09:33:08 AM
Parking cars and pumping gas as punishment for someone following their dream, even if they may not have what others would consider "the right stuff?" Wow. I guess, then, for all the auditions I've gone to and wasn't cast cause I didn't have "the right stuff," I might as well go grab my overalls and an oil rag now and quit wasting my time... ;)

DO you know the way to San Jose?

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Post by: Jason on November 22, 2005, 09:33:53 AM
Sad news today...

Sam, the Ugliest Dog in the World, has passed away. He was 14 years old.
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Post by: Jason on November 22, 2005, 09:35:47 AM
DO you know the way to San Jose?

I've got a lot of friends in San Jose

Woh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 09:40:25 AM
I've got a lot of friends in San Jose

Woh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh

Nothing wrong with being rejected at an audition.  But if you aren't going on auditions, you'll never know if you might have been cast.

There are all sorts of dreams, and they often change...or die...

I've had dreams, and I've had reality.  Reality won.  The key has been to channel the dreams into different areas.

If you're not going to audition, you're never going to be cast.

If your "temporary" job won't let you audition, then you've chosen a new career.


Just some ruminations...well intended...truly...
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 09:41:25 AM
Who am I?  Dear Abby?  Ann Landers?  Confidentially Yours?
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Post by: Ginny on November 22, 2005, 09:41:47 AM
bk, the memories you evoked for me by mentioning Joan Weldon and Karen Morrow!  The first professional musical I saw, at age 8, was a touring Music Man at Detroit's Riviera Theatre, with Joan Weldon as Marian and Forrest Tucker as Harold Hill.  The first show I saw in Detroit's "new" Fisher Theatre in the early '60's, was The Unsinkable Molly Brown, with Karen Morrow in the title role.
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Post by: Jason on November 22, 2005, 09:44:15 AM
Nothing wrong with being rejected at an audition.  But if you aren't going on auditions, you'll never know if you might have been cast.

There are all sorts of dreams, and they often change...or die...

I've had dreams, and I've had reality.  Reality won.  The key has been to channel the dreams into different areas.

If you're not going to audition, you're never going to be cast.

If your "temporary" job won't let you audition, then you've chosen a new career.


Just some ruminations...well intended...truly...


Believe me, Ron...I know. I'm doing the best I can to figure out a way to get out of my "temporary" job and get back to where I started. And I know they were well intended ruminations. No worries about that.  :)
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 09:45:37 AM
I will HUNT YOU DOWN and make you listen to John Lithgow's Greatest Hits until you want to rip your very eyes from their sockets.

The threat alone is sufficient.

Those Lithgow soup commercials are among the greatest so-called "entertainment" atrocities ever captured on video.

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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 09:47:32 AM
I've come to the conclusion that we're simply going to have to blame it ALL on JoseSPiano!

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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 09:47:52 AM
Or, we can place the blame on Mame.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on November 22, 2005, 09:49:57 AM
I love KEAN...it's one of my favourite musicals (even though it was not a huge success and apparently the book was not the best).   Alfred Drake to me is the epitome of a great singer/actor.  The greatest!  

What I notice about the older singers especially, besides just the fullness and richness of tone, is the precise clarity of diction.  You hear and understand every word.  Judy Kaye is the prime practitioner of that for me today.

I think as younger singers grew up in the fifties and sixties, rock music and rock singers probably had significant influence on their vocal stylings and then we had the specific rise of the rock musical...HAIR and particularly Lloyd Webber.

But I think there has been a trend in the last 25 years of singers more interested in showing off their instrument than serving the song, so we get all that warbling around notes and gospelly bravado and going up and down octaves to create false drama.  You see it with singers who used to be clean singers like Barbara Streisand.  As Rosemary Clooney once said about a singer doing all kinds of vocal gyrations: "I wish she'd just light somewhere."

I think the strange shift and tone in vocal quality is often very apparent now that we have a lot of rock singers and younger singers coming out with albums of standards and the standards are not well served by these voices.  Carly Simon sounds thin and reedy, Rod Stewart...well...There is no better example than that god awful music from the Cole Porter musical.  If he had had voices like those originally singing his songs, they never would have been classics.

But I'm not sure this all really answers BK's question.  Because there are good singers out there on Broadway where the tone has change. I notice it more in the women vocalists than the males, however.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 10:00:06 AM
...we have a lot of rock singers and younger singers coming out with albums of standards and the standards are not well served by these voices.  Carly Simon sounds thin and reedy, Rod Stewart...well...There is no better example than that god awful music from the Cole Porter musical.  If he had had voices like those originally singing his songs, they never would have been classics.

I pretty much agree with you, even though I am a Carly Simon fan.  That said, I don't find much appealing in her "standards" album, but...there is an exception: I'd rather hear her "In the wee small hours of the morning..." than anyone else's.  It's the perfect song, IMO, for her voice.

I always think of Fred Astaire when people complain about voices...he had a pretty thin singing voice...but it was the way he sold a song...and, I suppose, the imagery his voice invoked, that made folks appreciate him.  He was Porter's "voice of choice" for introducing his songs, if the accounts I've read are accurate.



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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 10:01:54 AM
My favorite singer from the 40s:  Jane Froman.  

I love that husky contralto...and I wish there was one out there who sang in a similar way.

Anyone know of one?
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Post by: vixmom on November 22, 2005, 10:29:39 AM
My favorite singer from the 40s:  Jane Froman.  

I love that husky contralto...and I wish there was one out there who sang in a similar way.

Anyone know of one?

 I know nozzing
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 10:31:59 AM
Then you're not helping, are you!!!

:D  :D
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 10:32:17 AM
What kind of voice does the Vixter have?
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Post by: Jason on November 22, 2005, 10:34:01 AM
?? What is 'nozzing?'
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Post by: Ginny on November 22, 2005, 10:34:24 AM
DR Jason - speaking of singers, I'm seriously looking into tickets for Barbara Cook at the Met, Friday, January 20, 2006, and need some seating advice.  These locations are all the same price, $95.:

Prime Orchestra
Balance Orchestra
Rear Orchestra
Side Parterre
Rear Grand Tier

For $25 less:  Dress Circle

For another $25 less:  Balcony

I'm willing to pay any of these prices, but would like your input as to whether, considering the type of performance, it's worth the $95.  If so, which of those locations would you recommend?  I'm inclining toward the Dress Circle, moderate that I am.  Thoughts?

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Post by: Jason on November 22, 2005, 10:36:28 AM
DR Jason - speaking of singers, I'm seriously looking into tickets for Barbara Cook at the Met, Friday, January 20, 2006, and need some seating advice.  These locations are all the same price, $95.:

Prime Orchestra
Balance Orchestra
Rear Orchestra
Side Parterre
Rear Grand Tier

For $25 less:  Dress Circle

For another $25 less:  Balcony

I'm willing to pay any of these prices, but would like your input as to whether, considering the type of performance, it's worth the $95.  If so, which of those locations would you recommend?  I'm inclining toward the Dress Circle, moderate that I am.  Thoughts?



"Balcony" at the Met is the very upper tier - about 5 floors up. "Dress Circle" is the 4th floor. I'd go for the Dress Circle if you can, but if there are seats in the front of the Balcony, those would be good, too.

I wonder if I'll be working by January 20...? If so, be sure to stop by the coat check and say hi!
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Post by: Ben on November 22, 2005, 10:39:01 AM
We need sound clips. I think it's a Sergeant Schultz reference from Hogan's Heros. He would say "I know nozzing, nozzing!" meaning nothing.

Here is a link to a Web site w/sound clips, one of which is Schultz.

Sergeant Schultz (http://www.the-earchives.com/scripts/detail.asp?queryby=list&movie_title=Hogan's+Heroes)
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Post by: Jason on November 22, 2005, 10:40:27 AM
Ohhhh...I get it now!! ;D Sorry...I'm a little slow on the up-take today.

Ben: How was your performance review?
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 10:44:47 AM
?? What is 'nozzing?'

As in, "I Got Plenty of Nozzing..."
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on November 22, 2005, 10:45:59 AM
What kind of voice does the Vixter have?

She got--
Sally Kellerman voice!

...or she did when she was sick...
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 10:47:05 AM
As in "I'm Getting Nozzin' for Christmas"
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Post by: Ben on November 22, 2005, 10:48:24 AM
It was very good. My overall rating is "Consistently Exceeds Expectations" I hope that means I will get a bonus but I won't know that until after I return from Dublin. T'would be a nice homecoming surprise. We don't automatically get bonuses and since we're a nonprofit, it's odd that we even do get bonuses but they want to be competitive with other for-profit companies. I got a bonus last year and I'm elegible this year again. If you get a bonus three years in a row, you can't get one the next year. It's supposed to avoid jealousy from those who did not get a bonus. Since they make the bonus list public every year it doesn't make much difference, IMHO.
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Post by: vixmom on November 22, 2005, 10:48:38 AM
What kind of voice does the Vixter have?

Well she is a high soprano at the moment and she is being "classically trained" by a Viennese singing instructor. (the Vixter is royally annoyed at being "forced" to classics sing in German all of the time when she would much rather be singing showtunes)

To be very honest with you  she has a very pretty voice and she can hit all the high notes but I do not kow if she has that "special something"  that quality, that catches the ear....she is just hitting puberty so I am waiting to see what changes that will cause.....(voice wise I mean)

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Post by: Ginny on November 22, 2005, 10:49:10 AM
One of my favorites from Roar of the Greasepaint...:

"Nozzing Can Stop Me Now"
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on November 22, 2005, 10:49:11 AM
And I said..."Nozzing,
I'm feeling nozzing,"
And he says "Nozzing
Could get a girl transferred."
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Post by: vixmom on November 22, 2005, 10:49:20 AM
Who am I?  Dear Abby?  Ann Landers?  Confidentially Yours?

Dear Uncle Ron.....
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Post by: vixmom on November 22, 2005, 10:50:23 AM
Believe me, Ron...I know. I'm doing the best I can to figure out a way to get out of my "temporary" job and get back to where I started. And I know they were well intended ruminations. No worries about that.  :)

Well if you would just win the damn Lotto already.... I blame Jose HE keeps hitting it!!
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Post by: vixmom on November 22, 2005, 10:51:00 AM
Sad news today...

Sam, the Ugliest Dog in the World, has passed away. He was 14 years old.

A mercy killing I presume
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Post by: vixmom on November 22, 2005, 10:52:02 AM
Then you're not helping, are you!!!

:D  :D

I never do! Just keep stirring the pot.... :-* :D
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Post by: vixmom on November 22, 2005, 10:59:27 AM
?? What is 'nozzing?'

I keep forgetting hew young you are   ;)(and how OLD I am)  :P ..
There used
 to be a show called Hogan's Heroes that showed in repeats about 47 times a week... and the German Sgt (Schultz wasn't it fellas?) would always be saying " I see nozzing  I know nozzing"  ;D
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Post by: MBarnum on November 22, 2005, 10:59:41 AM
So is this Joan Weldon you all have mentioned, the B-movie actress from the 50s Joan Weldon...star of THEM!and GUNSIGHT RIDGE? Wow, I had no idea she had worked on Broadway!
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Post by: Ben on November 22, 2005, 11:02:24 AM
There will be a radio show about Phil Silvers on BBC Radio 2 today at 3:30 (New York time). After airing it will be available to hear for one week (through Tuesday, November 29) at:

Phil Silvers (http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/)

If you don't listen to it at 3:30 click on More Shows under the Listen Again heading to listen to it later.
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Post by: MBarnum on November 22, 2005, 11:02:45 AM
I would imagine that the singing on Broadway would constantly evolve..I am sure it was much different in the 20s and 30s then it was in the 40s and 50s just as it is now different.

What we are all saying about the current style is probably what people said about the previous styles.

And although I don't care much for the current style of singing, I wouldn't call it bad...just not to my liking.

Thankfully there are at least 100 years worth of music for me to choose from, most of which I have not yet heard....so I can always find something I enjoy.
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Post by: FJL on November 22, 2005, 11:04:32 AM
Ginny - Are you even finding tickets in the better sections of the orchestra at this point?  I hate to promote higher spending, but Ms. Cook's facial expressions are part of the joy of seeing her, so if you can get frontish orchestra, I'd recommend the extra $25 splurge.  I saw her ludicrously-priced-but-worth-it-to-me show at the Carlyle last April, and it's so much more than just the voice, IF you have the option of sitting close.  (I'm just hoping the show at the Met is not exactly the same show as at the Carlyle, though, as she does have a tendency to stick with the same song list for a while.)
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Post by: George on November 22, 2005, 11:05:53 AM
The threat alone is sufficient.

Those Lithgow soup commercials are among the greatest so-called "entertainment" atrocities ever captured on video.

I can see it now...blurbs for commercials:

"Greatest...Entertainment...Ever!"
Ron Pulliam, HHW



;)
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Post by: MBarnum on November 22, 2005, 11:05:59 AM
JRand55, you are so right about the drive tonight...I will stock up with Bollywood music and Egyptian pop music for the drive down, and Glenn Miller and Percy Faith once I pick up mom.


But I am still not relishing a 4 hour drive after working all day from 6:30 am to 4pm.
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Post by: Jason on November 22, 2005, 11:06:29 AM
Poor Sam the Ugly Dog. He had to be put down because his heart was giving out. :(
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Post by: Ben on November 22, 2005, 11:08:08 AM
Also Ginny, if you do end up in the higher sections, a pair of opera glasses (two, one for you and one for Richard) might be in order. Fred (FJL) is right. Part of the magic of seeing Miss Cook is seeing how she sells/acts a song. There is no one like her right now (IMHO). I'm a dyed in the wool, absolute gushing fan of Barbara Cook. I would listen to her read the phone book.
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Post by: Jason on November 22, 2005, 11:09:31 AM
DR Vixmom: Believe it or not (I'm walking on air) - I have actually seen "Hogan's Heroes" with my very own eyes! In reruns, of course, but I've seen it! When I first read your "Nozzing" post, I must have been speed reading or something 'cause I thought you'd written,

"I sing nozzing."

Hence the misunderstanding. :P
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Post by: vixmom on November 22, 2005, 11:10:31 AM
I can see it now...blurbs for commercials:

"Greatest...Entertainment...Ever!"
Ron Pulliam, HHW



;)

ROTFLMAO!!
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Post by: vixmom on November 22, 2005, 11:11:45 AM
Poor Sam the Ugly Dog. He had to be put down because his heart was giving out. :(

I'm sorry to have made light of it.... but he sure was UUUUUGLEEE



(I wonder if he could cook?)


 If you want to be happy the rest of your life....
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Post by: Jason on November 22, 2005, 11:13:32 AM
I'm sure Sam wouldn't mind jokes made at his expense. I think even he would acknowledge his homeliness. :)

(Get an ugly puppy to be your...uh...that doesn't work)...
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Post by: vixmom on November 22, 2005, 11:17:14 AM
DR Vixmom: Believe it or not (I'm walking on air) - I have actually seen "Hogan's Heroes" with my very own eyes! In reruns, of course, but I've seen it! When I first read your "Nozzing" post, I must have been speed reading or something 'cause I thought you'd written,

"I sing nozzing."

Hence the misunderstanding. :P


Walking in the Air... do you know where we can sheet music for this?  I've been huntng for this ever since we saw the  Celtic Women special on PBS .  The Vixter fell in love with it and wants to give the music to her teacher so that she can sing it for their next concert


All my interenet searches have come up with arrangements for choruses and she wants the solo piece that was arranged and orchestrated by David Downes
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Post by: vixmom on November 22, 2005, 11:19:17 AM
Has anybody heard from Danise?


I do hope she is feeling better and isn't pushing herself  
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Post by: Ben on November 22, 2005, 11:20:17 AM
So lets move on to Page 5.
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Post by: Ben on November 22, 2005, 11:20:33 AM
There. That's better.
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Post by: vixmom on November 22, 2005, 11:23:28 AM
I wonder if this will work here

http://www.msn.americangreetings.com/display.pd?bfrom=1&prodnum=3067458&path=25203
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Post by: Jason on November 22, 2005, 11:23:45 AM
Walking in the Air... do you know where we can sheet music for this?  I've been huntng for this ever since we saw the  Celtic Women special on PBS .  The Vixter fell in love with it and wants to give the music to her teacher so that she can sing it for their next concert


All my interenet searches have come up with arrangements for choruses and she wants the solo piece that was arranged and orchestrated by David Downes

Sorry...I don't know that song. I just know the theme song from "The Greatest American Hero." :-\
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Post by: Ben on November 22, 2005, 11:24:59 AM
Cute card, Deb. It worked on my computer.
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Post by: vixmom on November 22, 2005, 11:25:44 AM
There. That's better.

Ben, world famous BBC radio Broadway play critic and  official page turned for the HHW! :D
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Post by: vixmom on November 22, 2005, 11:26:14 AM
We shall miss you while you are away , dear Ben!
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Post by: MBarnum on November 22, 2005, 11:28:51 AM
That calls for an Asha Parekh / Shammi Kapoor Bollywood dance!

(http://www.uiowa.edu/~incinema/Teesri%20Manzil%201.jpg)
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Post by: Ginny on November 22, 2005, 11:30:30 AM
Congratulations, Ben, on your glowing performance evaluation!

And thanks to all for the Met ticket advice.  I've been looking online here at work, but prefer to do ordering (credit card numbers, you know) from my home computer.  DR Jason, do you get to peek in on the shows when you're working there?
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Post by: Ginny on November 22, 2005, 11:31:10 AM
We shall miss you while you are away , dear Ben!

That's for sure!  You will be back by January 16, won't you?
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Post by: elmore3003 on November 22, 2005, 11:36:38 AM
Angela is not a voice you really can "listen" to on a CD, but it's the whole package that works onstage.  Never saw her in Mame, but she was really good in Gypsy and much more than that in Sweeney.

Differences of opinions are fine - especially when accompanied by smilies, so don't anyone go getting red-faced and storming off or I will hunt you down and make you listen to Rent for three days straight.

I cannot wait to see the film of RENT; I loved the show, and went into it expecting to loathe it.  However, I'd rather have my ears drilled than listen to a Michael John LaChiusa score.   I'm still in shock over the horrors of THE WILD PARTY.
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Post by: elmore3003 on November 22, 2005, 11:37:58 AM
Who am I?  Dear Abby?  Ann Landers?  Confidentially Yours?

Beatrice Barefacts?
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Post by: Ginny on November 22, 2005, 11:42:06 AM
I cannot wait to see the film of RENT; I loved the show, and went into it expecting to loathe it.  However, I'd rather have my ears drilled than listen to a Michael John LaChiusa score.   I'm still in shock over the horrors of THE WILD PARTY.

...and I have this mint condition Marie Christine...

DR elmore, I want to see Rent this weekend, too.  I was hoping to see it with my niece, but she has to leave right after Thanksgiving dinner.
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Post by: elmore3003 on November 22, 2005, 11:44:42 AM
...and I have this mint condition Marie Christine...

DR elmore, I want to see Rent this weekend, too.  I was hoping to see it with my niece, but she has to leave right after Thanksgiving dinner.

Well, Agravaine, you asked for it and you got it.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ginny on November 22, 2005, 11:47:17 AM
Well, Agravaine, you asked for it and you got it.

Is that like "be careful what you wish for"?
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: vixmom on November 22, 2005, 11:48:21 AM
, I'd rather have my ears drilled than listen to a Michael John LaChiusa score.   I'm still in shock over the horrors of THE WILD PARTY.

Dang and I just ordered the special edition  47 hour compilation of all his works for your Christmas present!





 ;D
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Post by: vixmom on November 22, 2005, 11:50:45 AM
BTW Ginny, I still can't seem to get online from home, if the Vixdad can't get us up and running over the Thanksgiving break I'll just print out the pictures of you and mail them to you!
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Post by: Ginny on November 22, 2005, 11:52:38 AM
BTW Ginny, I still can't seem to get online from home, if the Vixdad can't get us up and running over the Thanksgiving break I'll just print out the pictures of you and mail them to you!

No hurry, vixmom, but we sure miss having you around evenings and weekends!
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Post by: Jason on November 22, 2005, 11:57:50 AM
DR Ginny: I get to go in sometimes. Depends on how busy it is and what my fellow coat checkers are doing during the acts. I got to go in for Pavarotti's final act in his final performance of TOSCA. That was cool... :)
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Post by: vixmom on November 22, 2005, 11:58:24 AM
I just realized today is my one year anniversary of being a member here!  It is also the  14th anniversary of buying my house and 42nd anniversary of the assassisnation of JFK.....
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Post by: Ben on November 22, 2005, 12:03:34 PM
Yes, Ginny, we will be back in mid-afternoon of December 31st. We leave the evening of December 16th and return some 14 days later.

I have you in my calendar!
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Jason on November 22, 2005, 12:09:25 PM
DR Ben and Ant will head directly to Times Square from the airport, I'm sure... ;)
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Post by: Ben on November 22, 2005, 12:14:48 PM
Times Square on New Years Eve after returning from a seven hour international flight?

Wy Soinintly (in my awful Three Stooges takeoff) ;)
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Jason on November 22, 2005, 12:17:29 PM
Times Square on New Years Eve after returning from a seven hour international flight?

Wy Soinintly (in my awful Three Stooges takeoff) ;)

I knew it... You guys are wild and crazy!!  ;D
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Matt H. on November 22, 2005, 12:27:52 PM
My favorite singer from the 40s:  Jane Froman.  

I love that husky contralto...and I wish there was one out there who sang in a similar way.

Anyone know of one?

Gogi Grant particularly singing the vocals for Ann Blyth in THE HELEN MORGAN STORY. Didn't sound a thing like Helen Morgan, of course, but she had that same sort of contralto.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ginny on November 22, 2005, 12:30:10 PM
Back to the Met...Is Row A of the Balcony at $55 a better deal than Row Z of the Orchestra at $95?  DR Ben, we do have 2 pairs of opera glasses!
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Matt H. on November 22, 2005, 12:34:03 PM
Well, I'm back from HARRY POTTER AND THE GOBLET OF FIRE. What a mammoth production this is! Dwarfs the previous three films by a considerable degree in terms of size and seriousness. And as the transition film between the first three when they're really kids and the last three when they're presumably mature-for-their-years teens, it does what it has to do.

Completely and totally enjoyable and I will be seeing it again next week with some other friends who couldn't go today, but I have to say that the emotions in PRISONER OF AZKABAN resonated with me more than they did with this one.

I did jump out of my seat and holler at one point in the film (during the lake sequence). I won't say any more.
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Post by: Matt H. on November 22, 2005, 12:36:38 PM
And I think Angela Lansbury is a marvelous show singer, and her vocals in her first four cast albums (WHISTLE, MAME, DEAR WORLD, GYPSY) are pure pleasure for me.

(I left out PRETTYBELLE because I don't have that on CD and haven't listened to the LP in many, many years, but I liked her work in it, too.
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Post by: Jason on November 22, 2005, 12:37:03 PM
DR Ginny: Go for Row Z in the orchestra if you're willing to pay the extra money. There are no bad seats in the theatre, really, but Row Z is actually pretty decent.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Matt H. on November 22, 2005, 12:37:12 PM
Off to eat my lunch/dinner now and watch last night's CSI: MIAMI.

WBBL./
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Post by: JMK on November 22, 2005, 12:44:26 PM
TOD:  Well maybe it's my composer side coming through, but I think it was the change in pop music styles, which infiltrated the Broadway sound at least by the early 60s (one could make a case for the mid to late 50s), which required a different vocal technique.  I agree that by the time "Hair" came around the "old style" was pretty much on its last legs, but I think the change had happened before that.  Also, not to state the obvious (well, probably to state the obvious), but there was a generational thing happening, too--the Drakes and Raitts were moving on to older character parts, and the younger leading men/women had been raised in the late 40s and 50s and thereby were exposed to the pop music styles of the day, which were obviously less operatic than earlier pop music.

WAKE UP!!!!   ;D
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 12:51:53 PM
On the other side of the spectrum....

"Somezing in the way she moves...."
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on November 22, 2005, 12:52:04 PM
I will be stopping at Target after work this evening and picking up some of today's DVD releases:  WAR OF THE WORLDS, THE POLAR EXPRESS and the 1933 KING KONG.  I ordered the Babs TV Specials set from DeepDiscount but that order hasn't shipped yet.

And if I see an X-Box 360, my sister asked if I could pick one up for her.  Like that's going to happen--people were camped out last night in a nor'easter at stores in the hopes of getting one.  Crazy!
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Post by: Charles Pogue on November 22, 2005, 12:52:47 PM
Ron, I too like Carly Simon, but when she's singing her pop/rock/folky stuff as opposed to the standards which I don't find her voice suited for...unlike I find Astaire's voice, which despite its flaws, knew how to put those songs over...It's why not only Porter loved him, but also Gershwin and Berlin.  The wrote songs specifically for his vocal stylings.

I don't need perfect voices...just voices that know how to serve and sell the song.  Jimmy Durante singing Young At Heart can be incredibly moving.

A modern singer who I think knows how to sing a standard is someone like K.D. Lang.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 12:53:15 PM
Back from lunch.

Went to Shan Dong Restaurant in Chinatown section of Oakland.

Had Sweet/Sour Soup, Shan Dong Chicken, Braised Green Beans, and Pot Stickers.  

A gastronomical delight.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 12:54:46 PM
Ron, I too like Carly Simon, but when she's singing her pop/rock/folky stuff as opposed to the standards which I don't find her voice suited for...unlike I find Astaire's voice, which despite its flaws, knew how to put those songs over...It's why not only Porter loved him, but also Gershwin and Berlin.  The wrote songs specifically for his vocal stylings.

I don't need perfect voices...just voices that know how to serve and sell the song.  Jimmy Durante singing Young At Heart can be incredibly moving.

A modern singer who I think knows how to sing a standard is someone like K.D. Lang.

Dude!  I LOVE Durante.  I indulged in CD buying spree a year ago for Durante titles.

His "Make Someone Happy" is a favorite!

Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 12:56:08 PM
And if I see an X-Box 360, my sister asked if I could pick one up for her.  Like that's going to happen--people were camped out last night in a nor'easter at stores in the hopes of getting one.  Crazy!

A what?
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 12:56:51 PM
It's a whatsit?

A whatsit?

A whosit?

It's the jitterbug!
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Dan (the Man) on November 22, 2005, 12:59:48 PM
A what?

Dude, it's the latest thing!
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: vixmom on November 22, 2005, 01:00:54 PM
It's times like this I'm grateful the Vixter has no interest in video games.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 01:02:41 PM
Dude, it's the latest thing!

I dig whatchyersayin', daddy-o!

But...whatsit?
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 01:03:58 PM
Speaking of daddy-o, how's DD Jennifer, BK?  It's been a while since she posted.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 01:11:14 PM
What say you, man of Oz?

How are things under there?
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Dan (the Man) on November 22, 2005, 01:11:20 PM
I dig whatchyersayin', daddy-o!

But...whatsit?

It's the latest video game gizmo from Microsoft.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 01:11:40 PM
Don't everybody post at one time!
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Post by: Jason on November 22, 2005, 01:12:20 PM
DR Pogue: I agree about K.D. Lang - such a wonderful musician.

The XBox 360 is the newest craze in video game technology that also incorporates digital video, music and a few other bells and whistles. It's selling for roughly $350, though there were reports that they were being sold on Ebay yesterday for over $1000.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 01:12:47 PM
Do YOU want one?
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Post by: Jason on November 22, 2005, 01:15:54 PM
I have no desire to own one, no. Even if I DID desire to own one, I couldn't afford to even look at it, let alone buy it. But I'm perfectly content with playing the two games I own on my PC.
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Post by: td on November 22, 2005, 01:27:20 PM
DR Pogue - I think that you might also fall in love with Alison Moyet's VOICE album.
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Post by: Jennifer on November 22, 2005, 01:36:06 PM
Tonight is my brother-in-law's birthday and we are going for Chinese food. Yeah!  Then we will come home and eat cake (strawberry shortcake).

I asked my sis his favorite kind of cake, and she said he doesn't really like chocolate cake that much, or vanilla/white cake that much.  But he loves cheesecake and he likes strawberry shortcake.

Well the only cheesecakes were frozen. And although i'm sure they would be great, i went to a grocery store with a bakery in it. And they had so many delicious fresh cakes, and one of them was strawberry shortcake. So I happily took that one. I'm sure it will be delicious!

Oh the Chinese restaurant is a Chinese/Japanese which is great. That means I can have tempura in addition to some of my favorite Chinese dishes!
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Post by: George on November 22, 2005, 01:41:09 PM
I cannot wait to see the film of RENT; I loved the show, and went into it expecting to loathe it.  However, I'd rather have my ears drilled than listen to a Michael John LaChiusa score.   I'm still in shock over the horrors of THE WILD PARTY.

Well...speaking of Michael John LaChiusa, I just read this article on Playbill.com:

Rashad, Rubin-Vega, Murphy Cast in LaChiusa's The House of Bernarda Alba (http://www.playbill.com/news/article/96405.html).

Yolande Bavan, Candy Buckley, Nikki M. James, Sally Murphy, Phylicia Rashad, Daphne Rubin-Vega, Saundra Santiago, Laura Shoop and Nancy Ticotin will be in the cast of Lincoln Center's Mitzi E. Newhouse Theatre's production of Michael John LaChiusa's new musical based on Federico Garcia Lorca's famous work, The House of Bernarda Alba.

And in another paragraph:

Bernarda Alba is the story of "a newly-widowed mother (Rashad), who enforces her iron will on her large household, only to have her daughters (to be played by James, Murphy, Rubin-Vega and Santiago) overwhelm her tyranny."

and then this, of special interest (or not) to elmore ;):

The prolific LaChiusa enjoyed some of his best reviews in years for See What I Wanna See, now playing at the Public Theater.
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Post by: Tomovoz on November 22, 2005, 01:44:29 PM
I really like the Carly Simon "standards" albums.. "Torch" would be in my top Albums of all time.
For me her voice is perfect for the songs. On the other hand I prefer Willie Nelson to Rod Stewart with the standards.  Nilsson's were better. Toni Tenille also had a good album of standards out years ago,

Horses for courses:  I do not care for Tony Bennett nor for  k d Lang.


Ella Fitzgerald, Sarah Vaughan and Nat King Cole could sing any of those "standards" with technique and so much feeling.

Once again "Horses For Courses". I remember DR George stating his admiration for Cleo Laine. Wonderful technique but I feel nozzing!! Her daugher sings with more feeling.

Barbara Cook:  PERFECTION.  And yes to SEE and hear her  is truly wonderful.

Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ginny on November 22, 2005, 01:45:20 PM
Well, I have to go spend my last hour here being an Information Waitress Hostess - I'll be at the first desk people come to when they enter the building.  Sort of like a receptionist - or a concierge.  It's not a bad thing to do for an hour at the end of the day.

Bye for now.
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Post by: elmore3003 on November 22, 2005, 01:47:23 PM
TOD:  Well maybe it's my composer side coming through, but I think it was the change in pop music styles, which infiltrated the Broadway sound at least by the early 60s (one could make a case for the mid to late 50s), which required a different vocal technique.  I agree that by the time "Hair" came around the "old style" was pretty much on its last legs, but I think the change had happened before that.  Also, not to state the obvious (well, probably to state the obvious), but there was a generational thing happening, too--the Drakes and Raitts were moving on to older character parts, and the younger leading men/women had been raised in the late 40s and 50s and thereby were exposed to the pop music styles of the day, which were obviously less operatic than earlier pop music.

WAKE UP!!!!   ;D

I'm not sure I can totally buy that; compare Ron Husmann on the OBC TENDERLOIN to Patrick Wilson on the Encores! recording.  Husmann may not be the actor that Wilson is, but I prefer his singing.  The DEAR WORLD and FOLLIES recordings show Kurt Peterson's voice is a beautiful instrument, and A LITTLE NIGHT MUSIC's Mark Lambert had a glorious tenor.  Perhaps it's too much listening to pop music and a decline in vocal training for the theatre?  

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Post by: elmore3003 on November 22, 2005, 01:49:18 PM
I was comparing Gogi Grant to Jane Froman, not Helen Morgan.

I realized that, DRMattH, so I deleted my post just now.
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Post by: Matt H. on November 22, 2005, 01:53:52 PM
CSI: MIAMI had an action packed case last night involving a bizarre bank robbery based on video games. The college aged kids in the episode were portrayed as self-involved and totally indifferent to the injuries and deaths of others they might cause. I just can't believe this is anything but hyped-up TV suspense.

Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Matt H. on November 22, 2005, 01:55:14 PM
I realized that, DRMattH, so I deleted my post just now.

Thanks, DR Elmore. I'll delete my response to yours, too.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Matt H. on November 22, 2005, 01:56:53 PM
The thing I liked best about the 3-D last night was the very first 3-D segment with the cigar that came jutting out and the falling paint. Both were super cool to see in 3-D.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Matt H. on November 22, 2005, 01:58:41 PM
And speaking of 3-D, I have a couple of 3-D movies on DVD here that I may take off the shelf now and look at again with the larger sized screen that I have now. I may find, like I did with MEDIUM last night, that the 3-D is more effective now.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Jane on November 22, 2005, 02:08:30 PM
MBarnum, Amtrak goes from Salem to Grants Pass.

Joy, skinny vibes!

Cillaliz, so sorry you are adding pounds. Good non-smoking Thanksgiving vibes, and so glad you are enjoying NetFlix.

Matt H we found “How I Met Your Mother” very funny.  The visit home was hysterical.  

Jose I love the screensavers! ;D
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Post by: vixmom on November 22, 2005, 02:13:22 PM
The time has come to say goodbye to all our company.......










I have a closing out of the office in the morning, so unless a miracle occurs and I can sign on from home this evening  it'll  be tomorrow afternoon before i get to see alll you peopel again....

So for those of you that are off to various Thanksgiving celebrations, my wishes for a safe and wonderful journey

my wishes for wonderful meals, no heartburn and only pleasant conversations!!


Happy Thanksgiving all!!!


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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 02:16:06 PM
DR Elmore:  It's not just singers who are entering the workplace without classical training.

Film composition, these days, requires little more (seemingly) than a knowledge of synth keyboards.  It's more "noise application" than anything, IMO...and taking something someone else has written, changing a note or two, and passing it off as something different enough to escape a lawsuit.  And you get to put your name on it, too!

The trouble with "American Idol" is that they select contestants from among thousands of wannabe singers.  There are no requirements re: training...they just pick people who can put over part of a song on a day when they're hearing thousands.

As soon as the competition is underway, they either chastise someone who has had training (making it sound like a bad thing) or they chastise the contestants for their inabilitiy to put over a song...yet there is no evidence that the show is providing any modicum of training to assist them at all.  

So...whatchagonnado?
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 02:18:11 PM
PAGE SEVEN!

My LUCKY Number.  

Time to go out and buy a California Combo!
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 02:24:15 PM
Four other people are, allegedly, viewing this thread.

But you can't prove it by me.

;)
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 02:24:35 PM
I can't get anyone to say "Hey!" or "Boo!"
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 02:24:59 PM
I have "squat" persuasiveness when it comes to teasing folks into posting.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 02:25:33 PM
All I can do is post these obnoxious little one-liners in hopes others will intervene and say something different.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 02:25:49 PM
I can use the numbers, so I'm not complaining.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 02:26:01 PM
But it DOES get lonesome sometime.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Matt H. on November 22, 2005, 02:27:22 PM
Hello, DR Ron, I am here reading your posts.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 02:27:52 PM
That's good to know.  I've been reading yours.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 02:28:27 PM
Sometimes I get the feeling I have when I dream I'm on a stage or on the street or in a room with others and suddenly realize I'm naked.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 02:28:37 PM
And yet nobody is even looking.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Matt H. on November 22, 2005, 02:29:21 PM
Doesn't look like I'll start any new DVDs tonight. I'll probably start to re-watch something already on the "seen" shelves. Have no clue what that will be at this point.

I'm thinking maybe a Hercule Ppoirot or Jane Marple mystery.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 02:30:28 PM
Doesn't look like I'll start any new DVDs tonight. I'll probably start to re-watch something already on the "seen" shelves. Have no clue what that will be at this point.

I'm thinking maybe a Hercule Ppoirot or Jane Marple mystery.

Did you finally finish watching all your "Angel" boxed sets?  I don't recall your mentioning it if you did.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 02:31:37 PM
I have boxed sets of the Jack Ryan movies and Indiana Jones movies I haven't watched yet.

I have both Marilyn boxes, but have watched only two or three of the films.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 02:34:43 PM
And I've a grunch of musicals I haven't watched, including "My Sister Eileen."
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Matt H. on November 22, 2005, 02:39:43 PM
Did you finally finish watching all your "Angel" boxed sets?  I don't recall your mentioning it if you did.

I have only watched the first two seasons of ANGEL on DVD (and the fifth season "live," of course). But once I start a series, I like to stick with it to the end of that season, and I've got too many DVDs coming in to do that with ANGEL now.

Once TV goes into reruns in December and new DVD releases slow up a bit, ANGEL will be my first priority.

And speaking of David Boreanez, I'm looking forward to seeing BONES tonight.  :D
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Matt H. on November 22, 2005, 02:41:55 PM
I have boxed sets of the Jack Ryan movies and Indiana Jones movies I haven't watched yet.

I have both Marilyn boxes, but have watched only two or three of the films.

I've viewed all the Jack Ryan and Indy films. Of the Marilyn ones, I think only LET'S MAKE LOVE hasn't been watched in the second set. I really can't stand Yves Montand in this or ON A CLEAR DAY.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Matt H. on November 22, 2005, 02:42:42 PM
I guess I need to go clean the living room now and then settle in for some DVD/TV viewing.

I will return later tonight with some TV thoughts.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 02:54:24 PM
I have a few esnipe bids in on some items on Ebay, all of which end in the next three hours.

And what do I find when I check on them?  Endless nonsense by bidders trying to one-up each other...one takes high bid, then 20 minutes later the previous high bidder trumps the high bid, and back and forth, jockeying the price up...and there's THREE HOURS TO GO.

Who the frell cares who holds the highest bid right now?  It's who takes it at the end that matters....and I assure you, I will try my best to take it at the end (cause, for now... they're nowhere near my highest bid).

:D

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Post by: bk on November 22, 2005, 02:57:30 PM
Back for just a second, but must now be on my way to lunch and then to the editing room.  Keep the home fries burning, for I shall most likely be returning quite late.  

Oh, dear, I hope Jrand hasn't gone off in a huff.  That stuff is really disturbing to me - Jason was obviously joking and put in a smiley just to be certain.  Oh, well.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 02:57:56 PM
I guess I need to go clean the living room now and then settle in for some DVD/TV viewing.

I will return later tonight with some TV thoughts.

Inquiring minds want to know...will these be "live" TV thoughts or recorded TV thoughts?
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Tomovoz on November 22, 2005, 03:04:03 PM
DR Ron (and others who watch the Idol jokes), I found "Operatunity" (BBC) to be far more worthwhile - for the viewer and for those involved.  There was serious training given to those who had talent. I'm not  an Opera fan, but I found the programme fascinating.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 03:06:22 PM
I can't get anyone to say "Hey!" or "Boo!"

Yes, it has sunk to this level!

I can't even get someone to say, "Hey, Boo!"







Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Tomovoz on November 22, 2005, 03:08:11 PM
Of course there was no public "Voting" in "Operatunity" and that is the real gimmick that gets people to watch "Idol". - a perceived involvement in a manipulative concept that has conned millions. As of course is "Big Brother". Horses for courses - but then I do not watch much Televison at all these days.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 03:08:20 PM
DR Ron (and others who watch the Idol jokes), I found "Operatunity" (BBC) to be far more worthwhile - for the viewer and for those involved.  There was serious training given to those who had talent. I'm not  an Opera fan, but I found the programme fascinating.


Speaking of operatic voices, have you yet heard the group called "Il Divo"?
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 03:09:32 PM
Of course there was no public "Voting" in "Operatunity" and that is the real gimmick that gets people to watch "Idol". - a perceived involvement in a manipulative concept that has conned millions. As of course is "Big Brother". Horses for courses - but then I do not watch much Televison at all these days.

For the record, we (U.S. viewers) don't get to vote on "Big Brother" evictions.

When the first "Big Brother" tanked in the ratings, they revamped everything to have only the houseguests evict one another.

Not as much fun for us, but American viewers aren't a   sadistic, nihilistic bunch.  We still pull for the good guys.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Tomovoz on November 22, 2005, 03:12:18 PM
I think Big Brother evictions were voted by the public in the original Dutch programme and here in OZ.  It may have changed!
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Tomovoz on November 22, 2005, 03:13:51 PM
And your post is modified!
I'm out  for the day. Please keep the porch light on for me.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 03:19:38 PM
I think Big Brother evictions were voted by the public in the original Dutch programme and here in OZ.  It may have changed!

I'm pretty sure the public votes in all international editions of "Big Brother".  It's just that the program is more popular elsewhere than here...and the public enjoys leaving the bad guys in the houses...the nastier the houseguests are, the better, apparently.

Here, we have to let the houseguests decide their own fate.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 03:21:48 PM
The enigmatic Guest has left the building.

Porch lamps are lit.

Key is under the mat.

Do help yourself to anything in the refrigerator.

Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 03:24:06 PM
And here I am...alone again.  
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 03:24:22 PM
I think George is reviewing the directory, so he's still round and about.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 03:26:11 PM
Does anyone remember what he or she was doing 42 years ago today (assuming you were alive and aware of your surroundings)?

http://www.fiftiesweb.com/kennedy/kennedy-assassination-22.htm (http://www.fiftiesweb.com/kennedy/kennedy-assassination-22.htm)
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: George on November 22, 2005, 03:42:28 PM
I wasn't alive 42 years ago.  Sorry.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: elmore3003 on November 22, 2005, 03:42:44 PM
Does anyone remember what he or she was doing 42 years ago today (assuming you were alive and aware of your surroundings)?

Economics class, before we were dismissed and told to go home.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: George on November 22, 2005, 03:44:51 PM
I think George is reviewing the directory, so he's still round and about.

But I am here.  Earlier today, we had a lunch for our Human Resources manager, who's quitting at the end of the month.  She is only 30 years old and is going for her Master's degree and with the structure study and loss of 6 managerial positions and having to create position descriptions for 4 new jobs, it all got to be too much for her.  She needs to concentrate on school, so she will.  We all went out for Mexican food and it was very good and filling. ;D
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 03:44:52 PM
Economics class, before we were dismissed and told to go home.

I was in band, and we were sent directly to our final class of the day (French I) where we sat and did nothing.  They had to get the school buses to the school before discharging the students.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: George on November 22, 2005, 03:45:32 PM
Something just broke....
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 04:25:42 PM
Something just broke....

...yes?

Someone's water?

A piece of glass or china?

A bone?

WIND????

I thought maybe you meant a news story, but I haven't found anything out of the ordinary...


...What???

Tell us, George!  
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 04:50:19 PM
TCB...please post something!
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: George on November 22, 2005, 05:00:56 PM
...yes?

Someone's water?

A piece of glass or china?

A bone?

WIND????

I thought maybe you meant a news story, but I haven't found anything out of the ordinary...


...What???

Tell us, George!  

"Something Just Broke" is the newest song that Sondheim had written for Assassins (actually, he wrote it for the 1992 London production).  If I remember correctly, it's about how people felt and what they were doing when they heard about various presidential assassinations.  It's on the (new) Broadway cast recording.  Click HERE (http://sg1.allmusic.com/cg/smp.dll?link=l7eapy62s5epguukbfxwdd6&r=20.asx) for a short clip.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Charles Pogue on November 22, 2005, 06:08:00 PM
TOD:  I was listening to Ron Raines in the car on the way home from a meeting and thinking he is a singer/actor in the mold of the Drakes, Kileys, and Raitts.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: TCB on November 22, 2005, 06:08:17 PM
TCB...please post something!

Sorry, Ron, I was reading my mail.  Yes, I remember where I was in 1963.  I was in Drama Class doing a read-through of our Chirstmas play.  That is right, children, a Christmas play presented in a public school, while across the hall my Mother (the music teacher) was rehearing her students in the Christmas Carols they would be singing at their Chirstmas concert.

Whew, that felt good.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 06:12:55 PM
DR George:  LOL!  Thanks for that explanation.  I'm not as familiar with the song titles in "Assassins" as I ought to be, I'm afraid.

But...funny.  And sad.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 06:15:19 PM
BK: Joyous News...my CDs finally arrived!  

I have no clue what the USPS has been doing with them all this time, but I have "The Last Starfighter" and Harvey Schmidt's CDs and much is right with the world.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ginny on November 22, 2005, 06:20:15 PM
Does anyone remember what he or she was doing 42 years ago today (assuming you were alive and aware of your surroundings)?

Junior high - we had an odd class called Auditorium, a combination of speech, drama, arts appreciation, etc.  Mrs. Kantor had to disabuse some wise guys of the idea that it was a joke.  

I have more vivid memories of 2 days later when Oswald was shot.  It was my parents' 23rd wedding anniversary and we'd just come from church where my niece (their first grandchild) had just been baptized.  We were having brunch around the dining room table and the TV was on, which rarely happened during meals.  
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: td on November 22, 2005, 06:22:06 PM
Sometimes I get the feeling I have when I dream I'm on a stage or on the street or in a room with others and suddenly realize I'm naked.   And yet nobody is even looking.

Ooooh. . .some of us are looking, Ron.  Some people just can't turn away. . . ;)
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: td on November 22, 2005, 06:25:04 PM
On the day of Kennedy's assassination, I was in the second grade classroom of Miss Mary Lou Kasarda.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ginny on November 22, 2005, 06:34:01 PM
With all the good advice and input from several DR's and consultation with DH Richard, I've ordered the balcony tickets for Barbara Cook at the Met.  We decided we'd rather sit in the front row of any section as opposed to near the back of the orchestra.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: TCB on November 22, 2005, 06:55:07 PM
On the day of Kennedy's assassination, I was in the second grade classroom of Miss Mary Lou Kasarda.

Did mention that I was in a Kindergarten Christmas production?
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: td on November 22, 2005, 06:57:02 PM
Dear TCB - you just keep getting younger with each passing year!  You're already younger than springtime. . .what happens in the fall?   ;)
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ginny on November 22, 2005, 07:00:52 PM
Hi, DR JRand - is it snowing in Indiana yet?
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Jane on November 22, 2005, 07:01:13 PM
JRand, 34 pounds-great work.  Good luck through the holidays.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ginny on November 22, 2005, 07:05:00 PM
Our house is beginning to smell like Thanksgiving.  When I came home from work, DH Richard had just taken 2 pumpkin pies out of the oven.  I just took out a pecan pie.  Mmmm.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: td on November 22, 2005, 07:07:42 PM
Our house is beginning to smell like Thanksgiving.  When I came home from work, DH Richard had just taken 2 pumpkin pies out of the oven.  I just took out a pecan pie.  Mmmm.

Today I made the Cranberry Pear Relish/Salad. . .AND
Two Apple Butter Pumpkin Pies. . .AND
Three Plain Ole Pumpkin Pies. . .

Yep, it's beginning to smell a lot like Thanksgiving.  .  . ;D
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: TCB on November 22, 2005, 07:10:40 PM
Today I made the Cranberry Pear Relish/Salad. . .AND
Two Apple Butter Pumpkin Pies. . .AND
Three Plain Ole Pumpkin Pies. . .

Yep, it's beginning to smell a lot like Thanksgiving.  .  . ;D


Yep, it sure is.  I just opened a can of chili.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Jrand74 on November 22, 2005, 07:13:05 PM
Oh, dear, I hope Jrand hasn't gone off in a huff.  That stuff is really disturbing to me - Jason was obviously joking and put in a smiley just to be certain.  Oh, well.

I always leave in a huff....a black one with big lapels!   ;D

But I ALWAYS come back - you know that MR BK!  To the delight of some and the consternation of others, I am sure...  ;D

Some topics I just let run their courses -

I am sure - as MR BK said - that Angela Lansbury is the total package and that just hearing the CD's/LP's are not giving me the whole performance.   ;D

Not snowing yet, DRGINNY.  But it is perfect timing.  I just got the leaves all raked and stacked at the curb for the leaf truck this afternoon.  So let it snow!!  8)

Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Jrand74 on November 22, 2005, 07:15:45 PM
JRand, 34 pounds-great work.  Good luck through the holidays.

Thanks, DR JANE.  I am keeping my fingers crossed.  I would have better luck keeping my mouth shut, but I have NEVER learned how to do that trick!  :P

Good Amazing Race tonight, although the teams are getting very hateful to each other.

I am watching KING KONG - and looking forward to the documentary on Meriam C. Cooper to follow.

I thought about going to see RENT tomorrow evening - being the OPEN-MINDED person I am....but I am still undecided.  ::)  If Molly and Jason want to go, maybe we will travel over to the NEW Stadium Theatre that just opened two weeks ago.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: JMK on November 22, 2005, 07:17:49 PM
Does anyone remember what he or she was doing 42 years ago today (assuming you were alive and aware of your surroundings)?

http://www.fiftiesweb.com/kennedy/kennedy-assassination-22.htm (http://www.fiftiesweb.com/kennedy/kennedy-assassination-22.htm)

I walked home for lunch that day (do kids still do that?), and my Mom had just heard.  While I was eating lunch, the mailman came with the *first* mail delivery of the day (does anyone else remember there used to be two a day?) and my Mom told him.  She was getting ready to go to a Bridge game, I recall quite clearly.  So I walked back to school and my teacher, Mrs. Valle, was crying at her desk.  They had everyone come back to class after lunch, they made a quick announcement over the PA, then they let everyone out for the day.  No fuss, no bother, no panic about parents--everyone just knew to walk home in those days.  I recall quite clearly a kid named Frank Church running off the playgoround screaming, "Maybe they'll shoot Johnson on Monday and we'll get another day off!"  This is probably the first clear memory from my early childhood.  I still recall the entire weekend being taken up with news reports on tv--there were no cartoons, which was the big tragedy for someone of my age.  
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Jane on November 22, 2005, 07:20:11 PM
I have only read through page two today & its time for me to say goodnight.  

Lucky for everyone I don’t have it in me to post a long rant regarding our kitchen remodel before I leave.  Bruce, if you will do one of your posts regarding the incompetence of people, that will pretty much cover it.     ::)
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ginny on November 22, 2005, 07:22:38 PM
Jane - I'm sorry things aren't going well on the kitchen project.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Jrand74 on November 22, 2005, 07:36:47 PM
Kitchen vibes for DRJANE.....
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Jrand74 on November 22, 2005, 07:40:04 PM
Sandra Shaw aka Rocky - plays the woman that Kong pulls out of a hotel room....then realizing it is NOT Ann Darrow, drops her.

Shaw married Gary Cooper in 1933 and was widowed in 1961 when he died.  She was also the California Women's Skeet Shooting Champion, the niece of Cedric Gibbons, and the daughter of the Governor of the New York Stock Exchange.   But she was dropped by Kong!
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Jrand74 on November 22, 2005, 07:40:23 PM
Still no snow DR GINNY.

Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ginny on November 22, 2005, 07:40:52 PM
Signing off for tonight.  I have one day, tomorrow, to whip our house into shape to host a Thanksgiving celebration for 14.  Yikes.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: JMK on November 22, 2005, 07:42:15 PM
the niece of Cedric Gibbons,

So it was probably she who picked up the empty Vodka bottles thrown over the fence.   ;D
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Jrand74 on November 22, 2005, 07:44:33 PM
I was in the 8th grade in 1963.  After our lunch during history class things were very strange.  Our teacher Mr. Marksbury told us just to read the chapter and kept leaving the room and coming back in.

The next period was my English class, and Mrs. Stuck, who was probably all of 23, was not at her desk when the class started.  She came in a few minutes later and she was crying.  She told us to study and she also went in and out of the room.

The last period was Science with Mr. Alexander.  After the bell rang, Karla Doty who had a transistor radio raised her hand.  She said: "Mr Alexander, somebody said they shot the President.  Is that true?"

Mr Alexander could barely speak, but he said"  "There will be an announcement in a moment."

Our principal came on the intercom and announced that President Kennedy had been shot in Dallas that afternoon and was dead.  School would be dismissed immediately.  We went out and got onto the school bus....no one talked.  And all weekend we watched TV.  

Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Jrand74 on November 22, 2005, 07:45:19 PM
So it was probably she who picked up the empty Vodka bottles thrown over the fence.   ;D

No doubt!  :o

She probably heard a few choice words as well!  ;D
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Jason on November 22, 2005, 08:06:37 PM
Just in from the screening of "Rent." I'll hold off on my review until later - after it has officially opened across the country.

DR Jack: I apologize if I ticked you off today - I really didn't mean to. I normally would do this in a private message, but the offending post was public, so I wanted to apologize publicly. You know I love you more than my luggage... ;)
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Matt H. on November 22, 2005, 08:10:23 PM
I was at home sick the day Kennedy was shot. I had gotten up to get something from the kitchen and heard a lot of commotion from the den where the TV was. My mom asked me to go in the room to see what all the noise was about. I paused at the den door just long enough to hear it was about the President, and I told her the President had been in some kind of accident. Didn't find out until later that day what had actually happened since I went right back to bed.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Matt H. on November 22, 2005, 08:13:20 PM
The DVD I pulled off the already watched shelf was THE EDGE. This was mastered during Fox's early years in DVD production when they weren't doing enhanced transfers for any films, so naturally it is softer and less impressive than it should have been. It looks OK for a transfer this old and non-anamorphic, but it's definitely a movie that could use an updating, one I'm sure it will never get.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Matt H. on November 22, 2005, 08:14:20 PM
An enjoyable episode of BONES tonight with one of those working-against-a-clock scenarios that are always fun. And the show provided a nice twist, too.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Matt H. on November 22, 2005, 08:16:35 PM
My goodness! The writers for HOUSE must comb the world for these rare diseases! And the stories of father and son were naturally interesting since the son was suffering from full blown AIDS though that was NOT the cause of his problems. (All of this infomration given in the first five minutes of the show.) I liked it.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: JMK on November 22, 2005, 08:17:34 PM
No doubt!  :o

She probably heard a few choice words as well!  ;D

"Where's my f***ing money, Harold?. . .Harold?. . ."  [sound of birds twittering and a fence shutting].
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Matt H. on November 22, 2005, 08:18:22 PM
LAW & ORDER: SVU had a disturbing case involving a pregnant teenager beaten severely which, once again for this show, turned out to be only one of the things addressed in the episode.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Matt H. on November 22, 2005, 08:23:38 PM
And over the next day or two, I'll have both SUPERNATURAL and MY NAME IS EARL/THE OFFICE to enjoy.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Matt H. on November 22, 2005, 08:25:26 PM
Well, I'm putting myself to bed a little earlier tonight. I have an 8 a.m. dental check-up and cleaning tomorrow, and that hour will come very fast.

Good night, all.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Dan (the Man) on November 22, 2005, 08:34:32 PM
Does anyone remember what he or she was doing 42 years ago today (assuming you were alive and aware of your surroundings)?

http://www.fiftiesweb.com/kennedy/kennedy-assassination-22.htm (http://www.fiftiesweb.com/kennedy/kennedy-assassination-22.htm)

I just barely remember that day--I was five years old.  I remember my dad was home from work for some reason.  And I remember him sitting and listening intently to this red table radio we had.  I remember my mom coming down the stairs and my dad telling her that the president had been shot and then they both sat down and listened to the radio and that kind of freaked me out a little because they both never sat down and listened to the radio like that.  And then I remember my one sister coming home from school and wondering why my parents were just listening to the radio instead of watching the TV.  And then once she turned it on, I don't remember it being turned off for the entire following week.  I remember my oldest sister coming home from school crying because the nuns would not let anyone go home and made all the students get on their knees and pray in the classrooms.  I remember my mother crying and my dad holding her.  I remember my aunts and uncles coming over, the women gathering in the kitchen, the men smoking and drinking beer in front of the TV.  I remember a lot of crying in church that Sunday.  

For myself, I think it was the first time that I was aware that there was such a person as the president.  And I quickly learned that there were vice-presidents and widows and children of murdered presidents and even murdered murderers.  New words and new information blurted themselves into my little head and I would from that point understand that there were things--big things!-- going on outside of my little world of family and friends.  

I feel like I've diverted into narrating my own version of THE WONDER YEARS.  Ick...
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Dan (the Man) on November 22, 2005, 08:42:21 PM
Actually, I just realized--I was only four years old.  My fifth birthday wouldn't come until about a month later.  Talk about long term memory...
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Dan (the Man) on November 22, 2005, 08:54:41 PM
Well, I did stop at Target tonight, but I wound up not making any of my expected DVD purchases.  I found out that there were double-disc versions of THE WAR OF THE WORLDS, THE POLAR EXPRESS and KING KONG (the last actually coming in a tin box.)  I suddenly felt overwhelmed and confused and suffered from consumer burnout.  I came straight home and opened up a bottle of George Duboeuf's New Wine for 2005 to calm my nerves.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Jrand74 on November 22, 2005, 09:02:07 PM
Well, I did stop at Target tonight, but I wound up not making any of my expected DVD purchases.  I found out that there were double-disc versions of THE WAR OF THE WORLDS, THE POLAR EXPRESS and KING KONG (the last actually coming in a tin box.)  I suddenly felt overwhelmed and confused and suffered from consumer burnout.  I came straight home and opened up a bottle of George Duboeuf's New Wine for 2005 to calm my nerves.

This will be quite a December for you I fear, young man!  ;D
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Jrand74 on November 22, 2005, 09:02:33 PM
DR JASON - no apology necessary!  :)  
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Jrand74 on November 22, 2005, 09:03:23 PM
Yes THE CARDINAL is a Warner Bros DVD, not a Criterion set.  I don't know why I assumed it was Criterion.....  A bargain for me anyway!

I think I will watch some of STATE FAIR now.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Tomovoz on November 22, 2005, 09:10:58 PM
Speaking of operatic voices, have you yet heard the group called "Il Divo"?
"Il Divo" were "big" here last year - as they were in the UK.
(ie before their American publicity tour).
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Tomovoz on November 22, 2005, 09:12:58 PM
42 years ago I was in a hospital bed having just had my nasal septum straightened. I guess my parents hoped that everything else would follow automatically.  LOL
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: elmore3003 on November 22, 2005, 09:14:40 PM
I'm back from the 9:30 showing of PRIDE & PREJUDICE, which was fine, except my feelings are colored by the worst ever nadir experience at a Loew's complex:  I bought the tickets on Sunday, and the tickets said the showing was in the "Olympia" on the top floor.  Charlotte and I were seated in an empty theatre by 9:15 enjoying our company and snacks.  When we got to the Olympia, the sign above the door did not say PRIDE & PREJUDICE at 9:30, it said something was showing at 12:05 am, so I asked an employee walking by if we were at the right place.  The person said we were at the right theatre so we went in.

At 9:30 the lights dimmed and for 5 minutes I watched "Loew's Cineman" flash on and off the screen.  I went out to the concession stand and inquired about the film.  The clerk said the movie would be starting shortly and my bitchy reply was that it was already late.  So, Charlotte and I watched the flashing Loew's Cinema logo for another couple of minutes and I went back out yelling for a manager.  The concession clerks were angry that I was disturbing their partying, and I finally accosted a young man and insisted on seeing a manager.  He founda lady who took my tickets, went to a computer, told me the theatre had changed, and the film had already started in a theatre in the fucking basement!  

We got to the theatre, which was packed, missed the opening minutes and sat in the damned second row at the side so everything was distorted by the perspective.  Everything about the film was colored by my entire experience under the helpful employees of Loew's.  On the bright side, after the film I asked at the box office for a manager, bitched him out and got four free passes.  I think it might be a good film.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 09:53:53 PM
Dear TCB - you just keep getting younger with each passing year!  You're already younger than springtime. . .what happens in the fall?   ;)

Like many of us, he probably "tries to remember the kind of
September...."
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: MBarnum on November 22, 2005, 09:55:32 PM
42 years ago today I was bumbling around in my mom's tummy trying to figure out if it was time to pop out yet!
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 09:58:52 PM
All right...I'm going to have to 'fess up.

I admit it freely.  I'm totally out on the topic!

I watch NBC's "The Biggest Loser"...and I ENJOY IT!

Some of these people are thoroughly transformed, physically, by their experiences on this show.  It's amazing.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 09:59:33 PM
42 years ago today I was bumbling around in my mom's tummy trying to figure out if it was time to pop out yet!

You describe it so visually, it's almost like we're all there....


:D
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 10:01:06 PM
Well, I'm putting myself to bed a little earlier tonight. I have an 8 a.m. dental check-up and cleaning tomorrow, and that hour will come very fast.

Good night, all.


Ewwww.....I can hear that cleaning tool right now!!!
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 10:01:40 PM
"Il Divo" were "big" here last year - as they were in the UK.
(ie before their American publicity tour).

Do you like them?
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 10:03:01 PM
Well, I did stop at Target tonight, but I wound up not making any of my expected DVD purchases.  I found out that there were double-disc versions of THE WAR OF THE WORLDS, THE POLAR EXPRESS and KING KONG (the last actually coming in a tin box.)  I suddenly felt overwhelmed and confused and suffered from consumer burnout.  I came straight home and opened up a bottle of George Duboeuf's New Wine for 2005 to calm my nerves.

Golly...what do you do when you find a shirt you like and it's available in five different colors?

Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 10:06:28 PM
 I recall quite clearly a kid named Frank Church running off the playgoround screaming, "Maybe they'll shoot Johnson on Monday and we'll get another day off!"  This is probably the first clear memory from my early childhood.  I still recall the entire weekend being taken up with news reports on tv--there were no cartoons, which was the big tragedy for someone of my age.  

I'm glad you said this.  I have a vivid memory of a boy named Mickey Tinsley making a really ugly remark about Jacqueline Kennedy that day while waiting for school to be dismissed.

A year later, he attended a Billy Graham Revival, "accepted Christ as his Saviour", and walked around school carrying a Bible.  I never believed him for a minute, either!
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: td on November 22, 2005, 10:10:10 PM
Like many of us, he probably "tries to remember the kind of
September...."

Does that mean that the "C" in TCB stands for Callow?   ???
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Tomovoz on November 22, 2005, 10:12:29 PM
Do you like them?
Very much so Ron.
I don't care for most opera (as an entertainment to view) but I do like the voices of quite a few opera singers!
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 10:22:10 PM
Very much so Ron.
I don't care for most opera (as an entertainment to view) but I do like the voices of quite a few opera singers!

I like the diversity of their styles and the blend they attain.  
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 10:22:57 PM
In case anyone is craving a recipe for something seasonal:

SWEET POTATO SOUFFLE

3 cups cooked mashed sweet potatoes
1 cup sugar
2 eggs, beaten
1/2 cup milk
1 tsp. salt
1/3 stick margarine or butter
1 tsp. vanilla
"Smidge" of nutmeg, if you have it.

Mix ingredients well, and pour into a greased casserole dish.

TOP WITH THE FOLLOWING:

1 cup brown sugar
1/3 cup plain flour
1 cup chopped nuts
1/3 stick margarine or butter

Mix ingredients and sprinkle on top of sweet potato misture.

Bake at 350 degrees until lightly browned (approx. 30 minutes)

For a 9 X 13 rectangular dish, DOUBLE THE RECIPE and cook for approx. 50 minutes.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 10:23:42 PM
Does that mean that the "C" in TCB stands for Callow?   ???

I always thought it stood for "Charismatic"!
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Tomovoz on November 22, 2005, 10:25:15 PM
I like the diversity of their styles and the blend they attain.  
I could have done without "My Way". The song from "the Mission" is wonderful.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 10:25:15 PM
Very much so Ron.
I don't care for most opera (as an entertainment to view) but I do like the voices of quite a few opera singers!

I have a strong fondness for Luciano Pavarotti....primarily, I suppose, because I'd never heard OF him when I first heard him sing...on the "Turandot" recording with Joan Sutherland.  
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 10:26:55 PM
I could have done without "My Way". The song from "the Mission" is wonderful.

Totally...I love it as "Gabriel's Oboe" from the score, but I don't have a clue what the words mean for "Nella Fantasia".

I'd LOVE to pick a batch of songs for one of their albums.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Tomovoz on November 22, 2005, 10:27:43 PM
Oh! An Oz reference. Our Joan.

I prefer Jose Carrares (to Pavarotti) - something more fragile there to love. I like Domingo least of "The Three Tenors"
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 10:28:28 PM
Oh! An Oz reference. Our Joan.

I prefer Jose Carrares (to Pavarotti) - something more fragile there to love. I like Domingo least of "The Three Tenors"

As you've said..."Horses....courses"....it's ALL good!
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 22, 2005, 10:29:36 PM
Auf wiedersehn, tutti....I can barely keep my eyes open.

Time to welcome the sandman...
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Tomovoz on November 22, 2005, 10:32:52 PM
Ah! a Sandman reference.  DR Kerry (remember him) grew up listening to "Japanese Sandman" played wonderfully by Freddy Gardner.  What a talent.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: bk on November 22, 2005, 10:39:31 PM
On location from the edit bay.  We'll be here till at least midnight, so notes will obviously be up late.

Yay, Jrand is back.
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Jed on November 22, 2005, 10:46:21 PM
Did mention that I was in a Kindergarten Christmas production?

Damn, I didn't realize you were held back that many times!!!
Title: Re:THE DROWSY BK
Post by: Tomovoz on November 22, 2005, 10:49:38 PM
Now that IS humour. (unless it's true)