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Title: UP TO PAR
Post by: bk on April 23, 2006, 12:35:57 AM
Well, you've read the notes, the notes were up to par, as am I, and now it is time for you to post until the cows come home - they're really starting to get a bad rap, which is, of course, par spelled backwards.
Title: Re:UP TO PAR
Post by: bk on April 23, 2006, 12:37:47 AM
And the word of the day is: CLAPTRAP!
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Post by: George on April 23, 2006, 12:52:48 AM
Great news about the books, BK.  
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Post by: elmore3003 on April 23, 2006, 04:50:57 AM
Good morning,all!  It's early Sunday morning, I'm listening to Haydn's "Theresienmesse" and sipping coffee.  I do feel better than yesterday, although  my allergies are still in high aggravation mode and the day looks as black, rainy  and miserable as yesterday.  I do have to make the trek to Toyland, and I hope to be out of the house in the next hour.

I'm still pondering the ELIZABETH I on HBO last evening.  Did any West Coasters catch it?  DR Matt H's comments were interesting, because I usually form an opinion of a famous person from what biograhical matter I read and not from the numerous film appearances.  For example, if I hadn't read several books, including James Kirkwood's AMERICAN GROTESQUE and a book about Clay Shaw, I wouldn't know that Kevin Costner's heroic character in Oliver Stone's lies-filled JFK was a homophobic, corrupt, pedophile in real life.  All this is leading to a question:  how many films/plays can you think of where a well-known figure is distorted from the facts?



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Post by: S. Woody White on April 23, 2006, 05:29:12 AM
And the word of the day is: CLAPTRAP!
Ah, yes, CLAPTRAP!  An intriguing backstager from 1993, about a libidinous Broadway wannabe who dreams of becoming a star but is brought down by her lack of proper hygene.

Word is that the same writer/director who brought us Claptrap, Nicholas Concupis, is now trying to get another show on the boards, titled The Prurient Chaparone.  Odds are he'll have to re-think the title.
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Post by: elmore3003 on April 23, 2006, 05:56:10 AM
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Title: Re:UP TO PAR
Post by: Jennifer on April 23, 2006, 06:10:51 AM
Good vibes to DR Elmore's father. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Post by: Jennifer on April 23, 2006, 06:13:07 AM
Re: tonight's episode of DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES. I was not planning to watch, since it is not listed as new in my tv guide.  However in my tv it says it is a recap episode. I think I enjoyed last year's recap show (although granted season was much more confusing).  But I think I shall watch it.

Oh and btw, I did watch the last 2 hours last night of CELEBRITY COOKING. Thanks NBC I guess, although i'm sure most viewers did not even know it would be on last night.
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Post by: Jennifer on April 23, 2006, 06:18:43 AM
BK I happened to see Tonya Harding on one of the entertainment shows a few months ago. Yes she definitely looks completely different!
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Post by: Jennifer on April 23, 2006, 06:20:47 AM
Btw, I just realized that I am starving. Is it too early to eat leftover pizza?
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Post by: Matt H. on April 23, 2006, 06:31:08 AM
Good morning!

Earlier forecasts were for rain today, but it gives no sign of it this morning. Bright blue skies and going to be warmer than the previous few days.
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Post by: Jrand73 on April 23, 2006, 06:32:28 AM
Well it sounds like a wonderful day for BK yesterday.  Why - WHY would people who aspire to be professionals make an appointment with the premiere organization of said profession and NOT SHOW UP???
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Post by: Jrand73 on April 23, 2006, 06:33:19 AM
Perhaps if you drop back by the COURTS show, a camera will be in your hands this time, MR BK.  And after all, Miss Cindy did ASK!  I bet you meet someone else who visits this here site, the most popular site on ALL of the world wide web.
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Post by: Jrand73 on April 23, 2006, 06:34:54 AM
DR CILLA LIZ, I am just so excited about the book and the Mary Badham information (that she offered!) - we probably can't afford her, but it is very exciting just to THINK about.

Please email me by clicking below and we can arrange payment and shipping details!  AND THANKS SO MUCH!!!
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Post by: Matt H. on April 23, 2006, 06:35:38 AM
No, I won't be watching that recap episode on DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES (GREY'S ANATOMY is doing one tonight as well, and LOST has one on Wednesday night).

I've seen every episode and have had no trouble discerning what was happening already. There are new shows on at 9 (THE SOPRANOS, LAW & ORDER:CI) that I will spend my time with.

If a show is very dense with plot or if a person has not been able to watch every episode, those recaps can be helpful. (A VERONICA MARS recap show would be invaluable.) But I don't think DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES has been perplexing enough this year (unlike last season's mystery) to warrant a recap show for faithful viewers.
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Post by: Jrand73 on April 23, 2006, 06:36:54 AM
Today is WS's birthday?  Well well well.  Congratulations to MR BK on getting a collection of his works.

I keep hearing about this boy, Willum Shakespurr - and I think from the way people are talking, if he keeps trying, he just might make it!
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Post by: Jrand73 on April 23, 2006, 06:38:32 AM
Books....well GIANT is a good book made into a BIG movie....and Carroll Baker is always around to talk her movies up....

Of course I probably just made that suggestion because I would like to meet her and talk to her....not just for lunch, though.
Title: Re:UP TO PAR
Post by: Jrand73 on April 23, 2006, 06:38:42 AM
DR MBARNUM how is that new doggie doing?
Title: Re:UP TO PAR
Post by: Matt H. on April 23, 2006, 06:40:05 AM
I have been debating with myself all morning about what lengthy miniseries I want to watch this afternoon. I've narrowed it down to three: PRIDE & PREJUDICE (the Colin Firth/Jennifer Ehle version), ANGELS IN AMERICA, and the original TALES IN THE CITY.

I've seen them all already, of course, but I haven't watched any of them on DVD
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Post by: Jrand73 on April 23, 2006, 07:22:08 AM
I vote for P/P DR MATTH!
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Post by: Jrand73 on April 23, 2006, 07:22:21 AM
Running a virus scan.  back in a bit.
Title: Re:UP TO PAR
Post by: Matt H. on April 23, 2006, 07:24:51 AM
I vote for P/P DR MATTH!

Yes, I'm leaning that way, too. I've seen ANGELS the most recently when HBO first broadcast it. The others are older and I haven't seen them as recently.
Title: Re:UP TO PAR
Post by: Jrand73 on April 23, 2006, 08:09:12 AM
Up to Paar....I kid you not!
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Post by: Charles Pogue on April 23, 2006, 08:09:37 AM
To answer elmore's question:  The historical Richard III bears nothing to Birthday Boy Billy Shakespeare's Richard III...even to the real possibility that he did not kill the Princes in the Tower (I think it was Buckingham), but that does discount the fact, that inaccurate an historical portrayal that it is, Bill's RICHARD III, is one of the greatest and most compelling dramas ever written and one of the great, great roles for an actor to play.  In fact, it was the play that led me to become a Richard III fanatic.  I have about two shelves on Dickie III and the War of the Roses.  There is also some evidence that MacBeth may not have been the bastard he is portrayed as in Shakes' play.

And, of course, we all know what an utter fantasy Warners' Cole Porter movie was...as well as most of those film bios of by Warners, M-G-M and others were of various composers and song writers.
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Post by: Jrand73 on April 23, 2006, 08:09:40 AM
Yes, I'm leaning that way, too. I've seen ANGELS the most recently when HBO first broadcast it. The others are older and I haven't seen them as recently.

And after all this IS a democracy.  8)
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Post by: MBarnum on April 23, 2006, 08:10:24 AM
DR MBARNUM how is that new doggie doing?

I am having sooooo much fun with Bosco! He is a delight to have around and is so easy to care for! What a polite, sweet natured animal he is!

Freddy likes him too, and sort of follows him around.

And how is that beautiful canine known as Blue Moon?
Title: Re:UP TO PAR
Post by: Charles Pogue on April 23, 2006, 08:10:42 AM
BK, did you see Mr. Sorbo? Did you talk to Denny? If you go back today takes some pictures.
Title: Re:UP TO PAR
Post by: Jrand73 on April 23, 2006, 08:10:47 AM
To answer elmore's question:  The historical Richard III bears nothing to Birthday Boy Billy Shakespeare's Richard III...even to the real possibility that he did not kill the Princes in the Tower (I think it was Buckingham), but that does discount the fact, that inaccurate an historical portrayal that it is, Bill's RICHARD III, is one of the greatest and most compelling dramas ever written and one of the great, great roles for an actor to play.  In fact, it was the play that led me to become a Richard III fanatic.  I have about two shelves on Dickie III and the War of the Roses.  There is also some evidence that MacBeth may not have been the bastard he is portrayed as in Shakes' play.

And, of course, we all know what an utter fantasy Warners' Cole Porter movie was...as well as most of those film bios of by Warners, M-G-M and others were of various composers and song writers.

And of course we have Richard Dreyfuss' turn as Dick in THE GOODBYE GIRL.  :o
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Post by: Matt H. on April 23, 2006, 08:17:29 AM
Heading down now to get the laundry started.

WBBL.
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Post by: MBarnum on April 23, 2006, 08:18:41 AM
This weekend Salem is having it's first ever Independent Film Festival...quite a big to do for our state capital...things like this usually only take place in Portland...but there has been much publicity and even a few celebs and I think it has really taken off. The films are being shown at 3 different downtown theaters...The Elsinore, The Salem Cinema, and The Grand Theater..all within walking distance of each other.

Last night I saw NINE GOOD TEETH which was a wonderful documentary about the film makers 104 year old grandmother who lives in New York City (she is now 107). It was funny and sad and it showed the good, bad, and ugly of her life and her family.
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Post by: MBarnum on April 23, 2006, 08:20:05 AM
After the movie was over there was still a bit of daylight out, but the sun was setting so Bosco and I decided to take our walk...but you know, these neighborhoods get a bit scary as the sun goes down...I think for now on we will only walk around when it is completely daylight! LOL!
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Post by: FJL on April 23, 2006, 08:22:27 AM
Elmore - Does June Havoc count as a well-known figure?  Didn't she actually threaten to see over the alleged distortion of facts in GYPSY?
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Post by: MBarnum on April 23, 2006, 08:22:38 AM
Now I must drink coffee and finish my Bollywood movie...SHAADI (1962).

(http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/nehaflix_1893_105968122)
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Post by: Jrand73 on April 23, 2006, 08:33:45 AM
Elmore - Does June Havoc count as a well-known figure?  Didn't she actually threaten to see over the alleged distortion of facts in GYPSY?

Yes she did....

Yes, DR MBARNUM - daytime walking is the safest!  8)
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Post by: Ginny on April 23, 2006, 08:51:24 AM
Sunday morning greetings!  It's a beautiful spring day here in SW Ohio and I have much puttering to do.  

When I leave for work tomorrow, I will have my bags packed for a road trip and won't be home until next Saturday.  From work Monday, I will drive to Columbus to attend 2 one-day seminars Tuesday and Wednesday.  Thursday, it's on to Cleveland, by way of the Longaberger Homestead.  Friday, I attend a meeting at the Foundation Center-Cleveland.
Title: Re:UP TO PAR
Post by: Cillaliz on April 23, 2006, 09:00:37 AM
Today is WS's birthday?  Well well well.  Congratulations to MR BK on getting a collection of his works.

I keep hearing about this boy, Willum Shakespurr - and I think from the way people are talking, if he keeps trying, he just might make it!

Willum Shakespurr... that's the name of my next cat
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Post by: Cillaliz on April 23, 2006, 09:04:31 AM
It's a beautiful day in Sioux City.  
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Post by: PennyO on April 23, 2006, 09:14:22 AM
Great good fortune about the Shakespeare set, Bruce! For my sweet sixteen, my dad bought me a 12-volume set printed some time in the late 1800's - which I still have. It was missing one volume - we got 11 - so the price for the WHOLE SET was $20. The leather bindings are cracked and broken now, for the most part. But there are the lovliest litho-type illustrations. And of course, the sentimental value of the gift... I was a young actor who loved the classics, and instead of a pearl necklace or a watch, my dad - who loved the English language in an uncommon way - gave me something far more valuable.

Happy Birthday to all of us, for the immortal Will.

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Post by: Jane on April 23, 2006, 09:15:08 AM
And of course we have Richard Dreyfuss' turn as Dick in THE GOODBYE GIRL.  :o

 ;D
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Post by: PennyO on April 23, 2006, 09:17:19 AM
Movies that do violence to an historic personage: IMMORTAL BELOVED. I couldn't really find Beethoven anywhere. And where was the actual, factual, greater-than-great death scene??? A crack of lightning, his eyes opening, he rises from his coma, shakes his fist at Heaven, and dies! Why wouldn't they use THAT???

But mostly, what utter crap about the sister-in-law and the nephew!
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Post by: Jennifer on April 23, 2006, 09:21:51 AM
Re: the recap shows, in the past i did not like them. But i've been finding that they've been done better and better recently. In fact some shows (like survivor) even include new footage).

I think i will tape the LOST one, and see if it is interesting. BUt since i don't have anything else on at 9pm tonight, I will see how they do the DH one.
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Post by: PennyO on April 23, 2006, 09:22:43 AM
Today at noon is the bridal shower for my sister Tami's gonna-be daughter-in-law. I had been shopping - which I do HATE - for two weeks... finally, in deperation, I went to a store she had actually registered in - that would be Bloomingdale's... AND they were running a One-Day SALE!!! on many items.

Her list had the whole collection of Calphalon cookware - these items each cost upwards of $100 - it's astonishing. Well, ONE of the pieces - a 12" omelette pan - costs $80. Not one of these items had been checked off as "completed"... But, for ONE DAY ONLY - the $80 pan was $29.99!!!

You see, procrastination WORKS!!! So now I'll look like a real Sport, she'll have one pan, and life is good.
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Post by: PennyO on April 23, 2006, 09:24:51 AM
I also bought her one of the picture frames she had listed - a sterling silver hammered silver 5x7 - very pretty - also on sale. Whatta Sport!! I'll give it to her on the sly, later in the week.
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Post by: Jane on April 23, 2006, 09:25:44 AM
Bruce, very nice purchase/trade at the show yesterday.

I have a small set with print is so little can hardly read it now.  While only published in 1965, I treasure the high school graduation gift from a dear neighbor.

Penny, I got one of those strand of pearls for my sweet sixteen.  ;D I haven’t worn it in years,  just look at it once in awhile (yesterday coincidently) .  The necklace is extra special for two reasons, my parents purchased it in Japan and it was the perfect necklace for my wedding dress.
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Post by: PennyO on April 23, 2006, 09:26:09 AM
And some 600-thread-count California King sheets. I'll give those to her at the shower OUR family is giving next Saturday. Those were on sale, too... Yeah - Jews don't buy retail...
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Post by: PennyO on April 23, 2006, 09:27:32 AM
Jane! Hi! Yes, I remember the lovely pearls... I actually DID get a beautiful pearl necklace from my parents for my 40th birthday...
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Post by: Jane on April 23, 2006, 09:29:25 AM
Penny why give the photo frame to her later, or will it be a gift to them both?
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Post by: Jane on April 23, 2006, 09:38:05 AM
Years ago on one of my yearly trips home my father saw me eyeing a beautiful fresh water pearl necklace with a matching bracelet.  He thought it was beautiful & within minutes it was mine.  I’m deciding between the fresh water pearls & my sweet sixteen one, which to wear to the wedding next Sunday.  Either should look great with the new outfit I found.  I also have a lovely white hat I’ll wear during the outdoor ceremony.  
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Post by: Rodzinski on April 23, 2006, 09:42:26 AM
Yes, elmore, that bit of character assassination by Oliver Stone was and is a real crime. And if you had asked me who the worst person would be to direct a film about September 11, he would have topped my list, but lo and behold, who do they choose?
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Post by: Jrand73 on April 23, 2006, 09:48:36 AM
Yes, elmore, that bit of character assassination by Oliver Stone was and is a real crime. And if you had asked me who the worst person would be to direct a film about September 11, he would have topped my list, but lo and behold, who do they choose?

At least it wasn't Atom Egoyan.  8)

TOD:  Since some DR's have already chimed in, I would like to know about the Shakespeare collections of the other DR's.....

LOL DR CILLALIZ - Shakespurr would be a nice kitty name.   ;D
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Post by: Jane on April 23, 2006, 09:51:13 AM
Cillaliz I enjoyed the photo of you and Mary Badham.  She looks like a fun person to know.  Interesting  background story, do you have any more?  
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Post by: Jane on April 23, 2006, 09:52:52 AM
DakotaCelt, lovely photos-thank you.  It was fun talking to you and hearing your charming accent.
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Post by: Rodzinski on April 23, 2006, 09:55:45 AM
LESTAT last night. The theatre did provide a good place to get in out of the rain, for a rainy gloomy night is as good a night as any to see a vampire musical. And the keyboard playing was exceptional, particularly Keyboard 3.  The guy who played the charcter called "Armond" was quite good. Our seats were excellent. My biggest wish was that the songs were better.

Afterwards we waited outside the stage door. Carolee Carmello came out first, and then, there he was: JoseSKeyboard3 himself. Another friend of his was waiting there as well, and we all headed to O'Lunney's for a post-show drink and snack where we had laughs (and laffs too).

It amazes me to hear how many changes the show has gone through, right up until three nights ago.


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Post by: Rodzinski on April 23, 2006, 09:58:04 AM
I just have a single bound volume of all the plays. And a few individual plays in paperback from college days.

My favorite play is MEASURE FOR MEASURE.
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Post by: Jrand73 on April 23, 2006, 09:59:35 AM
I have a pocket sized  1889 edition of Shakepeare's tragedy of Hamlet with nots and preface by Rev Henry N Hudson L.L. D.

I also have a one volume collection of the Complete Shakespeare from 1879 published by Porter & Coates in Philadelphia.  "A full and comprehensive life, a history of the early dramas, an introduction to each play, the readings of former editions, glossorial and other notes, etc etc etc....

Many b/w rotogravure-type illustrations each preceded by a tissue page bound into the book.
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Post by: Jrand73 on April 23, 2006, 10:01:14 AM
And of course MANY paperback and hardback editions of the plays.....

Also a 19th century edition of MIDSUMMER which is somewhere on the bookshelf!

Book sale - $5 a bag....DR GINNY, do I love THOSE sales!!!
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Post by: Ginny on April 23, 2006, 10:02:16 AM
TOD:  Since some DR's have already chimed in, I would like to know about the Shakespeare collections of the other DR's.....

When I was in junior high or early high school, my dad's boss lost his wife and gave all her books to us.  We spent a glorious rainy Saturday afternoon going through box after box and that's where I found the Shakespeare set that got me through high school and college and still sits on my shelf.  It's a 1944 Random House boxed set of comedies and tragedies - 2 volumes of each - "with notes and glossary, and with illustrations by Fritz Kredel."  The hardcover volumes are 5" x 7" and feel nice in your hands.

I also found a one-volume Favorite Works of Mark Twain and a Favorite Poems of Henry Wadsworth Longfellow.  

My father found a notebook containing hand-written lesbian love poetry that he whisked out of my sight quite quickly.
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Post by: Rodzinski on April 23, 2006, 10:02:20 AM
And Jane belated Happy Birthdays are STILL pouring in for Keith. Why, we just received one here from...

ME!

 and also...

TPunk!

Happy Birthday to Keith (a little slow) from us!
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Post by: Jrand73 on April 23, 2006, 10:04:07 AM
Thanx for the LESTAT news, DR RODZINSKI....
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Post by: bk on April 23, 2006, 10:08:04 AM
I'm up, I'm up.

Mr. Sorbo seemed to be a no-show, at least for the hours that I was there.  Didn't talk to Denny - I never know if people will remember me or not.
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Post by: Ginny on April 23, 2006, 10:11:45 AM
DR Cillaliz - Thanks for the photo and the report on your To Kill a Mockingbird gala.  Having just been through a community reading program using the same book, it's been interesting to compare events.

My ladies book group, every August, reads a book that has been made into a movie.  We then have a covered dish dinner and watch the movie together.  Here are the titles we've used (not all suitable for a community read, though):

The House of the Spirits
Possession
Like Water for Chocolate
Cold Mountain
Snow Falling on Cedars
A River Runs Through It
The Shipping News
Pay It Forward
Vanity Fair

This summer's selection is Bee Season.
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Post by: PennyO on April 23, 2006, 10:12:57 AM
Maybe I'll mosey over to the Court's show after the partay...
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Post by: Jrand73 on April 23, 2006, 10:14:39 AM
DR DAKOTACELT - I loved the dancing photos!
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Post by: Jrand73 on April 23, 2006, 10:15:11 AM
Maybe I'll mosey over to the Court's show after the partay...

Mosey Over to the Court's Show....that's the name of my new song...  :D
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Post by: Maria on April 23, 2006, 10:20:24 AM
Good morning/afternoon. Happy Birthday, DR William Shakespeare (you never know!).

Had a rather dificult evening last night, so I decided to escape it all by settling in to the entire HBO Elizabeth I. (Received DVDs of Parts 1 and 2 for Emmy consideration). Four hours well spent. For those who saw Part 1 last night, Part 2 is even better. Hugh Dancy is not only beautiful to look at (as ER said) but also holds his own with Ms. Mirren. Terrific script by Nigel Williams (using some of ER's actual speeches - she was, after all, a great orator), stylish production, and incredible acting. Helen Mirren will walk away with every award given this season. And she deserves to. Jeremy Irons was no slouch, either. The entire cast was flawless. Toby Jones as Robert Cecil probably won't get singled out, but deserves to be.

Still remember seeing Helen Mirren and Paxton Whitehead years ago in a little 99-seat theatre in LA in a production of Alan Ayckbourn's WOMAN IN MIND. Why they were doing it in this humble setting, i don't know. But what a treat!


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Post by: Jrand73 on April 23, 2006, 10:26:34 AM
I think enough time has passed....what was the "secret" or the "reason" why Jodie Foster's daughter disappeared on that plane in that dumb movie?

Post with a SPOILER warning if you want to....I don't want to see the movie, but I want to know what hoary old plot device they tried to dress up as a silk purse.....(again).  I noticed the THE LADY VANISHES ripoff in the promos....
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Post by: Jrand73 on April 23, 2006, 10:27:38 AM
Well - two raves.....like DRJANE - it will be the ELIZABETH dvd for me.
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Post by: bk on April 23, 2006, 10:29:24 AM
And now we begin the countdown to our new plateau, and it's a corker let me tell you.  We will have a partay to end all partays, that's all I can say.
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Post by: Maria on April 23, 2006, 10:29:45 AM
Oh - and re JR's interesting question.... For something quite recent, how about CAPOTE? Harper Lee, herself, has written a few letters about the inaccuracies of the film. And William Shawn's colleagues and family say that his involvement with Capote and the writing of the book is totally incorrect. Apparently, on the DVD, the writers and producers address this.
Having written a number of scripts dealing with real people and true events, I'm usually on the side of the film-makers (unless a person is accused of doing something horrific he or she did not do). These are, after all, not documentaries. And, let's face it, even documentaries aren't 100% representations of what really happened.
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Post by: DERBRUCER on April 23, 2006, 10:32:13 AM
..The theatre did provide a good place to get in out of the rain...

Ah, the consummate critic's utimate praise!

der Brucer
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Post by: DERBRUCER on April 23, 2006, 10:45:43 AM
I think enough time has passed....what was the "secret" or the "reason" why Jodie Foster's daughter disappeared on that plane in that dumb movie?


Briefly - the Baddie wanted to smuggle a bomb onto the plane. He put the bomb into Jodi's husband's sturdy metal, combination lock protested coffin. He then snatched the girl in the (correct) expectation that ultimately Jodi would open the coffin in her search - or so I recall.

der Brucer
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Post by: Jrand73 on April 23, 2006, 10:52:28 AM
Oh - and re JR's interesting question.... For something quite recent, how about CAPOTE? Harper Lee, herself, has written a few letters about the inaccuracies of the film. And William Shawn's colleagues and family say that his involvement with Capote and the writing of the book is totally incorrect. Apparently, on the DVD, the writers and producers address this.
Having written a number of scripts dealing with real people and true events, I'm usually on the side of the film-makers (unless a person is accused of doing something horrific he or she did not do). These are, after all, not documentaries. And, let's face it, even documentaries aren't 100% representations of what really happened.

Haven't listened to the CAPOTE commentary yet....

DRMARIA....that is so true.  I think what bothers ME most is the attitude expressed on the FRANCES dvd commentary by director Grame Clifford..."well we didn't want to nickel and dime the audience to death with facts...." :)
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Post by: Jrand73 on April 23, 2006, 10:53:09 AM
Briefly - the Baddie wanted to smuggle a bomb onto the plane. He put the bomb into Jodi's husband's sturdy metal, combination lock protested coffin. He then snatched the girl in the (correct) expectation that ultimately Jodi would open the coffin in her search - or so I recall.

der Brucer

but how did they get EVERYONE on the plane to deny that the little girl existed?
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Post by: DERBRUCER on April 23, 2006, 11:06:03 AM
This seems to be Disney's latest response to a Song of The South DVD (http://www.songofthesouth.net/news/index.html)

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March 11, 2006

Disney CEO Robert Iger: No Song of the South Yet

During the question and answer session at Disney's 2006 Annual Meeting of Shareholders in Anaheim, CA, the question was raised by a Disney shareholder why Song of the South has not been released. Here is a transcript:

"My name is Howard Cromer. I live in Cypress, I'm a Disney shareholder. I'm actually delivering a message from my son, 10. He wants to know in recent years, in the midst of all your re-releases of your videos, why you haven't released Song of the South on your Disney Classics?" [Applause] "And, he wonders why. Frank Wells told me many years ago that it would be coming out. Well obviously Frank Wells isn't around anymore, so we still wonder why. And by the way, Mr. Iger, he thinks it was a very good choice when they made you CEO of Disney." [Applause]


Iger: "Thank you very much. You may change your mind when I answer your question, though. Um... we've discussed this a lot. We believe it's actually an opportunity from a financial perspective to put Song of the South out. I screened it fairly recently because I hadn't seen it since I was a child, and I have to tell you after I watched it, even considering the context that it was made, I had some concerns about it because of what it depicted. And thought it's quite possible that people wouldn't consider it in the context that it was made, and there were some... [long pause] depictions that I mentioned earlier in the film that I think would be bothersome to a lot of people. And so, owing to the sensitivity that exists in our culture, balancing it with the desire to, uh, maybe increase our earnings a bit, but never putting that in front of what we thought were our ethics and our integrity, we made the decision not to re-release it. Not a decision that is made forever, I imagine this is gonna continue to come up, but for now we simply don't have plans to bring it back because of the sensitivities that I mentioned. Sorry."

der Brucer
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Post by: DERBRUCER on April 23, 2006, 11:08:42 AM
but how did they get EVERYONE on the plane to deny that the little girl existed?

Good luck, clever scripting, and the fact that one of the lead Flight Attendants was in cahoots.

der Brucer
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Post by: Jrand73 on April 23, 2006, 11:18:01 AM
Good luck, clever scripting, and the fact that one of the lead Flight Attendants was in cahoots.

der Brucer

Thanks.  Isn't that ALWAYS the way?  8)
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Post by: JoseSPiano on April 23, 2006, 11:18:32 AM
Good Morning!  Good Day!....

...And so on and so forth...

DRs TPunk and Rodzinski came to see Lestat last night... Then we went and enjoyed some appetizers and a few libations together at some Irish pub around the corner...  Fun, fun, fun!

OH! And the BIG news of the weekend....

I am an Uncle - again!  My brother, Michael, and his wife, Veronica, welcomed Emily into the world early Saturday morning.  -And John Michael and Alyssa are already "fighting" over who gets to hold their new baby sister.

:)

-Nothing like a new life to put everything into perspective.

And that's all for now.  I'm about to head out and get a ton of errands done in the drizzle and rain - and forecasted thunderstorms (I hope not)...  I shall check in tonight.  I promise.

Laters...
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Post by: PennyO on April 23, 2006, 11:31:13 AM
congrats to Jose on so many wonderful moments this week!!
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Post by: DERBRUCER on April 23, 2006, 11:48:55 AM
The Blonds are upset that Angie has been getting all the good press, so:

Bonnie:
(http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL242/891350/3691292/141566301.jpg)

Buster:
(http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL242/891350/3691292/141566300.jpg)

Here's the pair: (When they were still Bonnie & Clyde)

(http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL242/891350/3691292/141566304.jpg)

der Brucer
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Post by: George on April 23, 2006, 11:54:48 AM
They are so cute!!
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Post by: George on April 23, 2006, 11:55:15 AM
Btw, I just realized that I am starving. Is it too early to eat leftover pizza?

It is NEVER too early, nor too late, to eat leftover pizza! ;D
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Post by: TCB on April 23, 2006, 11:55:41 AM

Oh and btw, I did watch the last 2 hours last night of CELEBRITY COOKING. Thanks NBC I guess, although i'm sure most viewers did not even know it would be on last night.

I was channel surfing last night and came upon the Celebrity Cooking Showdown.  Since my knowledge of food is basically limited to eating it, rather than cooking it or learning how to prepare it; I was wondering who the Asian man was that was hosting the show.  When he fianlly spoke, I realized it was Alan Thicke.  Good Lord!  Do these Hollywood types (especially the men) think that the plastic surgery they have done looks good?  I pick on the men, because, at least, the women can use makeup to cover the worst of the mistakes.  

Alan Thicke used to be a fairly nice looking man, during his GROWING PAINS days and when he was THICKE IN THE NIGHT; but he now looks like he escaped from Madame Tussaud's.  Come to think of it, the wax figures probably look better.
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Post by: George on April 23, 2006, 11:58:25 AM
I must now go to my sister's to help her move the furniture back to the way it was.  The party for my niece yesterday was just family members sitting around and eating and chatting.  A fun time was had by all. :)
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Post by: Charles Pogue on April 23, 2006, 12:05:14 PM
Rodzinski, I'm fond of MEASURE FOR MEASURE too.  I once played Claudio in a production.

Re: the bio inaccuracies of film's about real people.  One must remember: Drama is not history.  Often the facts must give way to what will actually work in a dramatic context.  

I often wondered why some complain about the historical inaccuracy of movies.  While I often expect a drama to serve the essence of some figure or historical event, I do not expect exacting accuracy and sometimes realize that the dramatist is using history as merely a leaping off place to serve a dramatic point-of-view...which is okay by me.  Again, RICHARD III lousy history; great drama.  Who cares?  The great drama is what led me to the actual history.  And if I want history, I'll read history; I won't go to a movie or a play seeking it.
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Post by: TCB on April 23, 2006, 12:05:58 PM
Great good fortune about the Shakespeare set, Bruce! For my sweet sixteen, my dad bought me a 12-volume set printed some time in the late 1800's - which I still have. It was missing one volume - we got 11 - so the price for the WHOLE SET was $20. The leather bindings are cracked and broken now, for the most part. But there are the lovliest litho-type illustrations. And of course, the sentimental value of the gift... I was a young actor who loved the classics, and instead of a pearl necklace or a watch, my dad - who loved the English language in an uncommon way - gave me something far more valuable.

Happy Birthday to all of us, for the immortal Will.



Oh, please!  I went to summer camp with Billy Shakespeare; and, believe me, all tha boy could ever talk about was the size of his Globe.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on April 23, 2006, 12:07:23 PM
Pogue as Claudio in MEASURE FOR MEASURE.  The lovely wife is kneeling behind me.
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Post by: bk on April 23, 2006, 12:07:46 PM
Wrote a page and a half, and am now thinking about going over to the Courts show, although I don't really have a need to do so.
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Post by: DERBRUCER on April 23, 2006, 12:16:06 PM
Wouldn't this go just right with Jewish Thighs?

(http://i.cnn.net/money/popups/2006/fortune/f500_dollars/collier_bra_gal.jpg)

der Brucer (and it's only $528!)
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Post by: DERBRUCER on April 23, 2006, 12:17:49 PM
Pogue as Claudio in MEASURE FOR MEASURE.  

Oh Dear, more Beefcake! 8)

der Brucer
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Post by: Maria on April 23, 2006, 12:24:53 PM
Good luck, clever scripting, and the fact that one of the lead Flight Attendants was in cahoots.

DB - I'll respectfully disagree on the "clever scripting" verdict. Aside from the fact that the FLIGHTPLAN script was pretty bad, the most unforgivable aspect for something of this sort is that they CHEATED. In other words, there was no logic to it. No way, I repeat, no way would everyone have denied the existence of the child. Passengers saw her come onboard. The children sitting near her were staring at her.
So - two bits of HUGE illogic. 1. That they would deny seeing her when the did see her. And 2. That the villains would assume that nobody would see her. Quite the assumption! I get really angry at that kind of sloppy plotting. In the days when I used to write mysteries, we'd spend hours, days, making sure that it all added up when you looked back after the solution. I once did two backdoor mystery pilots (each a TV-movie) with the legendary Fred Silverman. It was a difficult but rewarding process. "And why would she do this when she could do that? But why would he take that car when this one was nearer? How would he figure this out when obviously"....etc. It wasn't enough to answer that the plot needed it! And trust me, by the time we were done there was  not a hole in the plot. It all made perfect sense. Actually, the same thing with Aaron Spelling and his longtime associate, Duke Vincent. In that outing, we plotted about ten episodes of a mystery series we were pitching. Like putting together a puzzle. Hard work, but enormous fun. And what a learning experience!
Anyway, back to FLIGHTPLAN - who knows what happened to the script. Maybe what was originally there made perfect sense. So I won't condemn the writer.
End of rant. And speaking of writing - I must do some. Laters!

Speaking of "Laters!" - DR Uncle Jose - CONGRATULATIONS!!
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Post by: DERBRUCER on April 23, 2006, 12:29:38 PM
DB - I'll respectfully disagree on the "clever scripting" verdict.

I was being facetious!

(Where's a good emoticon when you need one!)

der Brucer
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Post by: Maria on April 23, 2006, 12:32:13 PM
I was being facetious!


In that case, I respectfully agree.
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Post by: Cillaliz on April 23, 2006, 12:34:31 PM
Cillaliz I enjoyed the photo of you and Mary Badham.  She looks like a fun person to know.  Interesting  background story, do you have any more?  

Here's an article from the SC Journal.  This is a lot of what she talked about.

http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/articles/2006/04/21/entertainment/local/b576165f7d8cad798625715700130d55.txt

She also said that Phillip Alford (Jem) retired from acting at about age 21 and went to work with his father's construction firm.   Phillip was in charge of the project to rebuild all the hospitals in Kuwait (sp) after the first Gulf War.  He recently did a big mall in Arkansas and is next going to either rebuild hospitals damaged by Katrina or do a mall somewhere else.  

 
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Post by: Cillaliz on April 23, 2006, 12:36:10 PM
There are more stories and some other great info at this site

http://mockingbird.chebucto.org/index.html
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Post by: Cillaliz on April 23, 2006, 12:37:55 PM
One last story is that just prior to the scene where she rolls down the street in the the tire, she had been fighting with Phillip and John and I guess they were really sick and tired of her, so they decided if they pushed her really hard into a utility truck that was parked off camera they could kill her and then they could go home. So when they gave it a push they REALLY gave it a push.
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Post by: Cillaliz on April 23, 2006, 12:41:14 PM
DR Cillaliz - Thanks for the photo and the report on your To Kill a Mockingbird gala.  Having just been through a community reading program using the same book, it's been interesting to compare events.

My ladies book group, every August, reads a book that has been made into a movie.  We then have a covered dish dinner and watch the movie together.  Here are the titles we've used (not all suitable for a community read, though):

The House of the Spirits
Possession
Like Water for Chocolate
Cold Mountain
Snow Falling on Cedars
A River Runs Through It
The Shipping News
Pay It Forward
Vanity Fair

This summer's selection is Bee Season.

Thanks DR Ginny - That sounds like a great book club!
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Post by: Charles Pogue on April 23, 2006, 12:41:24 PM
Re: the Disney decision about not releasing SONG OF THE SOUTH.  Cowardice, not sensitivity...and don't think for a moment that Iger is being noble when he suggests Disney is sacrificing profits for the greater good.  What he is afraid of is that if they release the DVD of SONG protests and the like will impact their profits negatively.  

It's time to stop giving into the hyper-sensitivity of people trying to make issues out-of-non-issues.   It's not enough they rabidly seek offense in even the most casual remarks (remember the poor guy who used the word, "niggardly" and  suddenly a whole bunch of people who obviously didn't understand the word were shouting for his "racist" blood), they now think that things that happened years ago were done to personally thwart and offend them.

We're currently facing a similar over-reaction at the University of Kentucky, where a coalition of students are demanding that a mural painted in a school building why back in 1934 either be destroyed or covered up, because it depicts scenes of black people working in the fields and playing instruments while a white couple in 1800's garb dances.  The mural depicts the history of the state.  These people would rather censor and re-write history than admit that black people picked crops and played musical instruments, god forbid, for the entertainment of white people.  Mind you, there is no pov from the mural, it merely depicts a certain time in Kentucky's history and the connotation of those events is left to the viewer.  The viewer can either see them through an historical prism or be offended by them (and isn't a lot of art offensive to a lot of people?), but eradicating a work of art cannot eradicate  the facts of history.  Would someone explain to me how this is any different than the Nazi's destroying Art or burning books that depicted things they didn't want the masses exposed to?

People can chose to experience Art, if they wish.  They don't  have to go see it.  Depicting our history in our art is not necessarily an endorsement or a condemnation of it (it can be).  Imposing the morals and attitudes on a piece of art done at another time when another attitude and set of moral strictures were in play is absurd.  One has to viewed  it in the historical context of its time.

Both the mural and Song of the South are both cases where the art has, in a way, also become history...because it reflects the mindset and attitudes of a people at a certain point in time when it was done.

If Disney wants to put a disclaimer on SONG OF THE SOUTH that says they don't endorse some of the views in the movie and that some people may be offended by some of the things in the movie, fine.  But put it out and let people decide for themselves.

It is this sort of politically correct smugness of knowing  "what is best for us" that makes the Left just as repressive and frightening as the arrogant Far Right and  the condemning Religious Demagogues...They all want to tell us what and how we must think and how we must act.  They all think they are somehow smarter than us, better than us, holier than us, and that they must protect us from ourselves.

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Post by: MBarnum on April 23, 2006, 12:46:33 PM
VERY well said CP!

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Post by: DakotaCelt on April 23, 2006, 12:47:10 PM
It's a beautiful day in Sioux City.  

Same here Cilla... Went to a powwow last night and that was fun.
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Post by: Cillaliz on April 23, 2006, 12:51:30 PM
Well I'm off. I'm having a huge craving for grilled chicken, as in from the charcoal grill.  So, I'm off to get all the necessary supplies.
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Post by: DakotaCelt on April 23, 2006, 12:52:04 PM
Happy Birthday William Shakespeare!!!

and in honor of the bard's birthday... A bit to be shared from one of my favorite plays....Romeo and Juliet.

Quote
Amen, amen! but come what sorrow can,
It cannot countervail the exchange of joy
That one short minute gives me in her sight:
Do thou but close our hands with holy words,
Then love-devouring death do what he dare;
It is enough I may but call her mine.
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Post by: Cillaliz on April 23, 2006, 12:52:14 PM
CP - I couldn't agree with you more
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Post by: DakotaCelt on April 23, 2006, 12:55:53 PM
DakotaCelt, lovely photos-thank you.  It was fun talking to you and hearing your charming accent.

Taht was fun and you are welcome when it comes to the pictures.

BTW, love your accent also!! :-)

Gee, I have one?
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Post by: DERBRUCER on April 23, 2006, 12:58:06 PM

And in the case of both the mural and Song of the South, they are both cases where the art has, in a way, also become history...because it reflects the mindset and attitudes of a people at a certain point in time.


When I first saw Song of the South I was in elementary school in suburban Philadelphia.

A. The school regularly produced an annual minstrel show (all whites in black face, naturally)

B. The school yard selection poem "eeny, meeny, miney, mo" had a very un-PC ending line.

C. My favorite picture book was "Little Black Sambo".

D. A scant hour south, the Wilmington DE train station had all the facilities, including water fountains" labeled "White" and "Colored".

Even when I got to the Naval Academy, black Midshipmen had to sit in balcony of the town Cinema.

der Brucer - how times change!
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Post by: DakotaCelt on April 23, 2006, 12:58:11 PM
DR Cillaliz - Thanks for the photo and the report on your To Kill a Mockingbird gala.  Having just been through a community reading program using the same book, it's been interesting to compare events.

My ladies book group, every August, reads a book that has been made into a movie.  We then have a covered dish dinner and watch the movie together.  Here are the titles we've used (not all suitable for a community read, though):

The House of the Spirits
Possession
Like Water for Chocolate
Cold Mountain
Snow Falling on Cedars
A River Runs Through It
The Shipping News
Pay It Forward
Vanity Fair

This summer's selection is Bee Season.

Ginny, I loved the book, Like water for Chocolate.

Excellent book and the movie was good also.
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Post by: DERBRUCER on April 23, 2006, 12:59:41 PM
Well I'm off. I'm having a huge craving for grilled chicken, as in from the charcoal grill.  So, I'm off to get all the necessary supplies.

And do you know how to pluck and clean a bird?

der Brucer
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Post by: Rodzinski on April 23, 2006, 01:04:59 PM
Just flipped on the tube to catch the last 10 minutes of a M*A*S*H featuring our own BK as "Private Gilbert."

He got admonished in his hospital bed by Alan Alda and Marcia Strassman. Then he was included as "special guest wounded" at the cease-fire celebration party and is seen in a wheelchair singing a bit of auld lang syne before the news comes in that the cease fire was false. This was during the Wayne Rogers era, so a cease fire was about 10 years away.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on April 23, 2006, 01:05:20 PM
der Brucer, yes indeed times have changed.

And somehow, I think the vast majority of viewers called safely watch The Song of The South with all its flaws and not turn into bigots or use the film as some sort of recruitment for White Supremacists.  After all, what power can a little ole film have when we have vast religious institutions who have turned bigotry, hatred, and intolerance into a Fine Art?
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Post by: DakotaCelt on April 23, 2006, 01:08:35 PM
Pogue as Claudio in MEASURE FOR MEASURE.  The lovely wife is kneeling behind me.

nice...
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Post by: DakotaCelt on April 23, 2006, 01:09:39 PM
The Blonds are upset that Angie has been getting all the good press, so:

Bonnie:
(http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL242/891350/3691292/141566301.jpg)

Buster:
(http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL242/891350/3691292/141566300.jpg)

Here's the pair: (When they were still Bonnie & Clyde)

(http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL242/891350/3691292/141566304.jpg)

der Brucer

Nice pictures derBrucer...

Do you have pics of Fletcher?
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Post by: DakotaCelt on April 23, 2006, 01:11:10 PM
Congratulations DR Jose on becoming an uncle again!
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Post by: Matt H. on April 23, 2006, 01:19:43 PM
Well - two raves.....like DRJANE - it will be the ELIZABETH dvd for me.

Excuse me. Three raves. I crowed about it as well last evening.
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Post by: DERBRUCER on April 23, 2006, 01:22:44 PM


Do you have pics of Fletcher?

Silly question...

Frolicking with Alex

(http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL242/891350/1624689/65416499.jpg)

Posturing

(http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL242/891350/1624689/65416528.jpg)

Fletcher's Avatar

(http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL242/891350/1624689/113897718.jpg)
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Post by: Ginny on April 23, 2006, 01:23:29 PM
Welcome to the world to Emily, the new DN of DR Jose!
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Post by: Matt H. on April 23, 2006, 01:25:59 PM
Iger's "excuse" about SONG OF THE SOUTH is so much vague doubletalk. What SPECIFICALLY do they have problems with that was portrayed in GONE WITH THE WIND, THE LITTLE COLONEL, or other similarly set films that they think folks would go up in arms about? I want to know specifics so folks can address them individually.
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Post by: Matt H. on April 23, 2006, 01:28:36 PM
Oops (Spoo). I wrote my little rant before reading Charles Pogue's. We certainly see eye-to-eye on this.
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Post by: DERBRUCER on April 23, 2006, 01:29:52 PM
 After all, what power can a little ole film have when we have vast religious institutions who have turned bigotry, hatred, and intolerance into a Fine Art?

Maybe these vast bastions of bigotry are envious!

On reflection, Little Black Sambo was a very subversive book:

Features a very well dressed, traditional nuclear family - Dad works, Mom keeps house. They live in a world where hard work is rewarded and miscreants are punished.

The Sambo household was the envy of every white-boy reader I knew.

der Brucer

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Post by: Matt H. on April 23, 2006, 01:31:07 PM
I spent the whole of the afternoon with the exquisite PRIDE & PREJUDICE. I hadn't watched this in six or seven years, and it was like I was lifted back through the decades and spirited away with these wonderful characters. Simply sensational.

Didn't finish it, of course. but I'm hurrying my afternoon internet surf so I can get back down to it and continue to revel in it.
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Post by: Matt H. on April 23, 2006, 01:33:15 PM
I meant to add that I have the recently released Special Edition of PRIDE & PREJUDICE which features an anamorphic transfer (1.85:1, not the wider aspect ratio stated on the box) and Dolby Surround sound.
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Post by: DakotaCelt on April 23, 2006, 01:42:14 PM
Silly question...

Frolicking with Alex

(http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL242/891350/1624689/65416499.jpg)

Posturing

(http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL242/891350/1624689/65416528.jpg)

Fletcher's Avatar

(http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL242/891350/1624689/113897718.jpg)

What a beautiful dog.... I suspect he is a dalmation. His markings are impressive.
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Post by: DERBRUCER on April 23, 2006, 01:43:31 PM
Iger's "excuse" about SONG OF THE SOUTH is so much vague doubletalk. What SPECIFICALLY do they have problems with that was portrayed in GONE WITH THE WIND, THE LITTLE COLONEL, or other similarly set films that they think folks would go up in arms about? I want to know specifics so folks can address them individually.

Actually, there is a very vocal camp in the Black Civil Rights movement that feels that any depiction of the Antebellum South must include the forced separation of Black families, the rape of Black women by white masters, and much lashing of naked black torsos. For reconctruction era films, you must show at least one lynching. It's sort of a Black "Lest We Forget" and "Nevermore" movement.

Listen to this:

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Although some Blacks have always been uneasy about the minstrel tradition of the Uncle Remus stories, the major objections to Song of the South had to do with the live action portions. The film has been criticized both for "making slavery appear pleasant" and "pretending slavery didn't exist", even though the film (like Harris' original collection of stories) is set after the Civil War and the abolition of slavery. Still, as folklorist Patricia A. Turner writes:


Disney's 20th century re-creation of Harris's frame story is much more heinous than the original. The days on the plantation located in "the United States of Georgia" begin and end with unsupervised Blacks singing songs about their wonderful home as they march to and from the fields. Disney and company made no attempt to to render the music in the style of the spirituals and work songs that would have been sung during this era. They provided no indication regarding the status of the Blacks on the plantation. Joel Chandler Harris set his stories in the post-slavery era, but Disney's version seems to take place during a surreal time when Blacks lived on slave quarters on a plantation, worked diligently for no visible reward and considered Atlanta a viable place for an old Black man to set out for.
Kind old Uncle Remus caters to the needs of the young white boy whose father has inexplicably left him and his mother at the plantation. An obviously ill-kept Black child of the same age named Toby is assigned to look after the white boy, Johnny. Although Toby makes one reference to his "ma," his parents are nowhere to be seen. The African-American adults in the film pay attention to him only when he neglects his responsibilities as Johnny's playmate-keeper. He is up before Johnny in the morning in order to bring his white charge water to wash with and keep him entertained.

The boys befriend a little blond girl, Ginny, whose family clearly represents the neighborhood's white trash. Although Johnny coaxes his mother into inviting Ginny to his fancy birthday party at the big house, Toby is curiously absent from the party scenes. Toby is good enough to catch frogs with, but not good enough to have birthday cake with. When Toby and Johnny are with Uncle Remus, the gray-haired Black man directs most of his attention to the white child. Thus Blacks on the plantation are seen as willingly subservient to the whites to the extent that they overlook the needs of their own children. When Johnny's mother threatens to keep her son away from the old gentleman's cabin, Uncle Remus is so hurt that he starts to run away. In the world that Disney made, the Blacks sublimate their own lives in order to be better servants to the white family. If Disney had truly understood the message of the tales he animated so delightfully, he would have realized the extent of distortion of the frame story.


Above extracted from  Urban Legends (http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/sots.htm)

der Brucer
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Post by: Ginny on April 23, 2006, 01:47:22 PM
Ugh, I just watched an awful chick flick called It Had to Be You, which I checked out of the library because Faith Prince is in it.  The writing is terrible, acting not much better.  The best thing is the NYC scenery.  Fortunately, I was multi-tasking - eating lunch and then folding laundry - so didn't totally waste the 98 minutes (not that I was counting or anything...)
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Post by: DERBRUCER on April 23, 2006, 01:48:23 PM
What a beautiful dog.... I suspect he is a dalmation. His markings are impressive.
Yes, he is a Dalmatian (deaf and epileptic). His markings are startling but would be total disqualifiers in a show dog (spots can' touch or over lap).

We adopted him from the local Dalmatian Resucue group, which, by the way, is shunned by the Dalmatian Society of America: they fele all deaf dogs are defective and should be euthanized; any rescue group that seeks to find them homes is anathema. Talk about elitism!

der Brucer
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Post by: Matt H. on April 23, 2006, 01:48:56 PM
Actually, there is a very vocal camp in the Black Civil Rights movement that feels that any depiction of the Antebellum South must include the forced separation of Black families, the rape of Black women by white masters, and much lashing of naked black torsos. For reconctruction era films, you must show at least one lynching. It's sort of a Black "Lest We Forget" and "Nevermore" movement.

Listen to this:Above extracted from  Urban Legends (http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/sots.htm)

der Brucer

That's all well and good, but SONG OF THE SOUTH is hardly the only film to portray slaves/former slaves in this way. It's merely the "whipping boy" of this particular PC movement.
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Post by: DakotaCelt on April 23, 2006, 01:49:01 PM
I spent the whole of the afternoon with the exquisite PRIDE & PREJUDICE. I hadn't watched this in six or seven years, and it was like I was lifted back through the decades and spirited away with these wonderful characters. Simply sensational.

Didn't finish it, of course. but I'm hurrying my afternoon internet surf so I can get back down to it and continue to revel in it.

Are you watching the version wiht Colin Firth?
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Post by: DakotaCelt on April 23, 2006, 01:51:16 PM
Yes, he is a Dalmatian (deaf and epileptic). His markings are startling but would be total disqualifiers in a show dog (spots can' touch or over lap).

We adopted him from the local Dalmatian Resucue group, which, by the way, is shunned by the Dalmatian Society of America: they fele all deaf dogs are defective and should be euthanized; any rescue group that seeks to find them homes is anathema. Talk about elitism!

der Brucer

I am floored. HE IS BEAUTIFUL....

I dont care for some of the show dogs... Too much white...

I am glad you gave him a loving home along with Buster, Blondie, and Angie... They must all keep you on your toes.
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Post by: Matt H. on April 23, 2006, 01:54:27 PM
Are you watching the version wiht Colin Firth?

Yes, I mentioned on page 1 that this was one of the miniseries I was contemplating for today. In fact, I am heading back downstairs now to continue with it.
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Post by: DakotaCelt on April 23, 2006, 01:54:52 PM
My grandfather had a German Shepherd that was blind in one eye. HE was such a loving dog and an excellent watch dog. He could sense things that the other dogs could not. Very intelligent.

I regretfully do not have a picture of Spud but he was impressive. Sadly they had to put him down at 15 years of age for he was very sick and my grandparents could not bare to see him suffer.

I had Schnauzpoo that was the same way. He could always sense things as exceptionally alert when I was home alone.
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Post by: George on April 23, 2006, 01:55:01 PM
Fletch is beautiful.  It stll surprises me, though, when I see a dalmatian that has more black than white.


I just read DerBrucer's last post...now I know why.


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Post by: DakotaCelt on April 23, 2006, 01:55:29 PM
Yes, I mentioned on page 1 that this was one of the miniseries I was contemplating for today. In fact, I am heading back downstairs now to continue with it.

That was an excellent version of the show... I really liked it.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on April 23, 2006, 01:55:54 PM
 All this is leading to a question:  how many films/plays can you think of where a well-known figure is distorted from the facts?

Ummm...almost "most" of them, to one degree or another.

If "warts and all" were the norm, the movies/plays/TV shows wouldn't really draw much of an audience.

All humans have different sides to them...public personae are usually cosmetic enhancements of some good qualities, but other traits/qualities/quirks are very much hidden.

It's only when someone discovers those hidden things about "dead" folks of interest do the expose movies/plays/TV shows find a character interesting enough to feature...even if proof of such things is circumstantial.

Frankly, if the worst thing I know about some folks I consider to be friends was the only thing by which I esteemed them, I'd not have them as friends at all.

Movies, books (even biographies), plays and TV shows often exploit such things and leave the impression that these people should only be defined for that weakness.

I grant you there are some heinous things that should not be forgiven...but mostly, the exploited dark sides of such folks are, IMO,  more often overexaggerated than truthful.
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Post by: DakotaCelt on April 23, 2006, 01:58:09 PM
ONe of my freind Sandy's Irish wolfies would also be disqualified. Cedric was the runt of the litter and he is considerably smaller than her other two but he still a lovely dog but he can be a rascal at times. He is about 6 inches shorter at the shoulder than the other two dogs, Angus and Fintan.


The sad part is that the breeder was going to have Cedric destroyed. Sandy's daughter fell in love with him and the breeder let them have him when he was only a few weeks old.
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Post by: DERBRUCER on April 23, 2006, 02:00:57 PM
Shades of the movie "Paint Your Wagon":

 House Swallows Man (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,192755,00.html)

Quote


Sunday , April 23, 2006
 
ALTA, Ca — It was like a scene from a horror film: A 27-year-old man plummeted into a gaping hole that suddenly opened beneath a house, trapping him beneath foundation rubble and killing him.

Authorities say the home, built in the 1980s, may have been sitting atop a decades-old underground mine. Recent rains could have softened the ground under the home, in an isolated area near Lake Alta.

"It's unbelievable," Placer County Sheriff's Department spokeswoman Dena Erwin said. "From the front of the house, it's absolutely normal. Then, in the middle of the house, is this enormous hole."

The victim was awake and on the ground floor about 9:30 p.m. Friday when the concrete foundation near the kitchen gave way, sending him plunging into to the ground, Erwin said.


der Brucer
Title: Re:UP TO PAR
Post by: DERBRUCER on April 23, 2006, 02:06:08 PM
It stll surprises me, though, when I see a dalmatian that has more black than white.


Actually they come with a variety of colored spots: liver, lemon, orange...

der Brucer
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Post by: Jrand73 on April 23, 2006, 02:06:11 PM
There is a hole....inside a house.....there is a hole in the house.....
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Post by: Jrand73 on April 23, 2006, 02:08:13 PM
Lovely doggie photos.

I also appreciated Miss Angie's reaction to the pee towel.  

Reminds me of an short sidebar in the Reader's Digest (remember when we read that EACH month):

Science students at Yale were putting parachutes on mice and dropping them out a second story window.  They would then bring the mice back inside and give them cheese and take pulse and respiration.

After doing this several times, they set one mouse down on the table and he ran to the edge and jumped out the window.
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Post by: DakotaCelt on April 23, 2006, 02:08:43 PM
Actually they come with a variety of colored spots: liver, lemon, orange...

der Brucer

A lady who used to do volunteer work at the museum I worked at had a liver spotted dalmation however black is hte most common. Her dog was named Spot.
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Post by: DERBRUCER on April 23, 2006, 02:09:15 PM

I am glad you gave him a loving home along with Buster, Blondie, and Angie... They must all keep you on your toes.

Don't forget the eldest two: Marty and Mikey

der Brucer
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Post by: DakotaCelt on April 23, 2006, 02:10:05 PM
You are indeed a protector of animals...
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on April 23, 2006, 02:10:35 PM
Oh, did I forget to say good morning, when I posted this afternoon?

Good morning.

I've been up... at least since 9:25 a.m.

It's been a lazy Sunday....went through the S.F. Chronicle, worked the crossword, read the comics, thumbed through the Sunday Datebook...and then watched a favorite made-for-TV movie with Joanne Kerns and Tim Matheson (Matheson's a for-hire killer who has standards...and lets Kerns know her husband has hired him to kill her...and works with her to get her husband arrested/convicted).  Kerns has never been more beautiful.  And Matheson remains one of the most underrated actors out there!

Right now, "Jaws IV" is playing while I do a little surfing and posting.

I need to work my way into one of the piles of unwatched DVDs.  For some reason, though, every time I select a DVD to watch, it's one I've watched before.
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Post by: Jrand73 on April 23, 2006, 02:10:37 PM
Great TKAM links, DR CILLA LIZ!
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Post by: Jrand73 on April 23, 2006, 02:11:34 PM
DR RLP I just watched an episode of ADAM-12 that featured Mr Matheson...
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on April 23, 2006, 02:12:19 PM
Oh, yeah....I had a plate of spaghetti for lunch.

Made it myself...the sauce, I mean...from scratch.

The spaghetti was Barilla.
Title: Re:UP TO PAR
Post by: DakotaCelt on April 23, 2006, 02:13:26 PM
The end of the semester is coming here...

Lots of students studying and books that were checked out are starting to trickle back in but the biggest rush in return will be after the semester ends in two weeks.  

AT that time I shift to summer hours and man that will be painful af ter working 9 months at night....
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Post by: Jrand73 on April 23, 2006, 02:37:36 PM
What are your summer hours?

Off to watch FOUR FEATHERS on TCM.

I ordered Heath Ledger's CASANOVA and TRISTAN & ISOLDE both of which will be released on Tuesday.
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Post by: DakotaCelt on April 23, 2006, 02:41:58 PM
What are your summer hours?

Off to watch FOUR FEATHERS on TCM.

I ordered Heath Ledger's CASANOVA and TRISTAN & ISOLDE both of which will be released on Tuesday.

During the school year i work Sunday through THursday 330 to Midnight  except during breaks. During the summer I work four days a week at 10:30 to 7 and on Friday I will work 830 to 5.
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Post by: DakotaCelt on April 23, 2006, 02:43:34 PM
JRand, it will be interesting to see this rendition of Tristan and Isolde. I suspect it will be much different from Lovespell. Gorgeous cinematography and music in that film but I did not care for Kate Mulgrew in the part of Isolde.  Interestingly, the writer of that version, Claire Labine, also wrote on several different soaps.
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Post by: DakotaCelt on April 23, 2006, 02:45:19 PM
The Chieftains did the score in Lovespell and it was one of the first movies to use a truly traditional Irish instruments.
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Post by: Ginny on April 23, 2006, 03:03:16 PM
Just listened online to DR Ben's review of Pajama Game.  Ooo, I'd love to see that show!
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Post by: S. Woody White on April 23, 2006, 03:16:19 PM
Briefly - the Baddie wanted to smuggle a bomb onto the plane. He put the bomb into Jodi's husband's sturdy metal, combination lock protested coffin. He then snatched the girl in the (correct) expectation that ultimately Jodi would open the coffin in her search - or so I recall.

der Brucer
A sturdy metal, combination lock protested coffin?  Why does this bring to mind the image of the corpse carrying a picket sign?  "I may be dead, but I still demand my right to be heard!!!"

 ::)
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Post by: Ben on April 23, 2006, 03:16:31 PM
Rodzinski and I were surfing at the same time because I caught the same M*A*S*H episode. There is very little on Sunday afternoon television in the wider NY market but sometimes on Sunday I'll catch MASH. I came in just before the scene in the "hospital" where Gary Burghoff and MacLean Stevenson are talking. There was a rumor that a cease-fire had been signed and the unit was getting ready to go home. Cut to post-op and there is Mr. Kimmel on a cot under an army green blanket looking as young as ever. Then if you looked quickly you saw him sitting in a wheelchair at the big celebration for the cease-fire. After the party starts a man comes in with the news that there is no cease-fire. You don't see Mr. K. any more after that but he did get credit. I can't remember his rank but I think his character name was Gilbert. It was in 1973. Wow! What unexpected fun.
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Post by: DakotaCelt on April 23, 2006, 03:24:47 PM
I bet that was a riot to see....
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Post by: MBarnum on April 23, 2006, 03:51:01 PM
Dog Bosco and I have been out doing yard work all day...it is such a beautiful weekend!! Just returned from the SuperWalmart where I headed in order to buy a bag of potting soil...sometimes shopping in Walmart makes one feel as though they are in the middle of DELIVERANCE.

It was very scary in there!
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Post by: MBarnum on April 23, 2006, 03:52:22 PM
And Rod, the shirtless neighbor man  ;D, came over to meet Bosco. They hit it off nicely.
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Post by: MBarnum on April 23, 2006, 03:52:58 PM
Now to finish my Bollywood movie from last night and then continue yard work.
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Post by: DakotaCelt on April 23, 2006, 03:57:54 PM
Dog Bosco and I have been out doing yard work all day...it is such a beautiful weekend!! Just returned from the SuperWalmart where I headed in order to buy a bag of potting soil...sometimes shopping in Walmart makes one feel as though they are in the middle of DELIVERANCE.

It was very scary in there!

I can believe that...

I refuse to shop walmart/Superwalmart.  
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Post by: elmore3003 on April 23, 2006, 04:25:52 PM
I'm back!  It's been a long day with Toyland and family, and I'm ready to chill out for the remainder of the evening.

The problem with dramatic films about a person's life is that most lives aren't arranged dramatically enough.  June Havoc can certainly be angry about her portrayal in GYPSY but my memory is that it's close to the story Havoc charts in her EARLY HAVOC bio; both books omit Mama Rose's lesbianism as well as June's, although it's my memory June brought the subject up in her later bio (about Mom, not June).  Harper Lee can state that events are fictionalized and that's fine.  what I object to in a film like JFK is making the clear villain in the actual facts of the Clay Shaw trial into the film's moral center.  Oy!
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Post by: Cillaliz on April 23, 2006, 04:28:06 PM
And do you know how to pluck and clean a bird?

der Brucer

Yup, go to the grocery store and pluck up the chicken that looks best to me at the moment!

I am totally stuffed with chicken and home made potato salad.....hmmm
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Post by: Cillaliz on April 23, 2006, 04:38:14 PM
Looking forward to see who wins The Next Food Network Star. They are replaying all the shows and then will lead up to the big finale tonight.
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Post by: DakotaCelt on April 23, 2006, 04:38:55 PM
Yup, go to the grocery store and pluck up the chicken that looks best to me at the moment!

I am totally stuffed with chicken and home made potato salad.....hmmm

I like that plan also Cilla!!

I have done the other way and it is not as appealing....
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Post by: S. Woody White on April 23, 2006, 04:40:27 PM
Planned for dinner tonight:

Venison medalions, with perhaps a splash of pommegranite molasses.

Home fries.

Salad (with avocado, beets, and marinated mushrooms).
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Post by: Cillaliz on April 23, 2006, 04:42:01 PM
Planned for dinner tonight:

Venison medalions, with perhaps a splash of pommegranite molasses.

Home fries.

Salad (with avocado, beets, and marinated mushrooms).

sounds fabulous.  They just used pomegranate molasses in one of the recipes on the show.
Title: Re:UP TO PAR
Post by: TCB on April 23, 2006, 05:17:25 PM
Don't forget the eldest two: Marty and Mikey

der Brucer

I thought Woody and derBrucer were the eldest!
Title: Re:UP TO PAR
Post by: bk on April 23, 2006, 05:26:04 PM
Only eight hundred and fifty posts until we achieve our new and unbelievable plateau.
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Post by: Jane on April 23, 2006, 05:46:13 PM
LOL-enough time has not passed, FLIGHTPLAN is third on our NetFlix queue.  

I should probably read the explanation now, if the film is truly horrendous we might shut it off before the ending.
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Post by: bk on April 23, 2006, 05:51:56 PM
Flightplan was pretty awful in just about every way, save for Jodie Foster's always professional performance.  It's screenwriting 101, and unfortunately it puts actors in a very bad light because they're forced to play the ineptitude of the screenwriting.
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Post by: bk on April 23, 2006, 05:52:19 PM
You know, if we had a quorum, I might have opened the chat room.
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Post by: bk on April 23, 2006, 05:52:52 PM
I'm microwaving a baked potato - how long should it take?  I set the cook time for ten minutes.
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Post by: DakotaCelt on April 23, 2006, 06:00:11 PM
I'm microwaving a baked potato - how long should it take?  I set the cook time for ten minutes.

depends on the size... Usually takes 5 to 8 minutes for me and I have a small microwave.
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Post by: DakotaCelt on April 23, 2006, 06:01:24 PM
I think spring fever is fully entrenched.... Just busted a little while ago an uncomfortable scene...
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Post by: DakotaCelt on April 23, 2006, 06:02:16 PM
Flightplan was pretty awful in just about every way, save for Jodie Foster's always professional performance.  It's screenwriting 101, and unfortunately it puts actors in a very bad light because they're forced to play the ineptitude of the screenwriting.

I saw that movie a few weeks back and was not impressed. Horrible writing.
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Post by: DakotaCelt on April 23, 2006, 06:03:13 PM
Has anyone seen Unter Solen?
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Post by: Cillaliz on April 23, 2006, 06:06:06 PM
We had a fabulous weekend weather-wise, alas, the clouds are rolling in and it's going to get cold and rainy.
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Post by: DakotaCelt on April 23, 2006, 06:23:04 PM
We had a fabulous weekend weather-wise, alas, the clouds are rolling in and it's going to get cold and rainy.

We have had a gorgeous weekend here also... I actually went for a walk yesterday and attended a powwow. Glorious!

Ironic, it was snowing in Northwestern ND today and we have temps in the 70s...
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Post by: Jane on April 23, 2006, 06:50:59 PM

We adopted him from the local Dalmatian Resucue group, which, by the way, is shunned by the Dalmatian Society of America: they fele all deaf dogs are defective and should be euthanized; any rescue group that seeks to find them homes is anathema. Talk about elitism!


I tend to forget how striking his markings are.  It was also fun to see the blonds again.

There is a Bernese Mountain Dog rescue society & they even rescue dogs from Puppy Mills.  Good breeder should find homes for these dogs & make sure they can’t reproduce.  Then they should not breed the dogs that produce “problem” children.
Title: Re:UP TO PAR
Post by: Jane on April 23, 2006, 06:51:43 PM
I miss Little Sambo.
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Post by: Jane on April 23, 2006, 06:56:09 PM
Rodzinski and TPunk-thank you for the belated wishes.

Jose CONGRATULATINS!  When do we get baby photos?  I bet Emily is a doll.
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Post by: Ginny on April 23, 2006, 07:23:53 PM
Whew!  I've packed to the extent that I can until tomorrow morning.  In the process, I've also been switching winter for summer clothes - that's a guarantee that it'll turn cold  ;)
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Post by: Ginny on April 23, 2006, 07:28:24 PM
While I was packing, DS Rob said to me, "Off to New York again, huh?"  HA - don't I wish!  When I get back from this Columbus/Cleveland road trip, I'll buckle down and make some NYC arrangements for October.
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Post by: DakotaCelt on April 23, 2006, 07:28:39 PM
Whew!  I've packed to the extent that I can until tomorrow morning.  In the process, I've also been switching winter for summer clothes - that's a guarantee that it'll turn cold  ;)

Yes Ginny, that always seems to happen!!

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Post by: bk on April 23, 2006, 07:37:16 PM
I may venture out to the Jacuzzi.  Didn't go to the Ray Courts show - drove around instead.  Weird day, really.  I wrote a couple of pages - did about seven all told since Friday - slow going, but that's how it is beginning a new act and all.  Took just as long beginning act one.  I do know the next two things that happen, though, so that should enable me to write four or five pages tomorrow.  If I do that, then I'm just about twenty-five pages from finishing.
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Post by: Rodzinski on April 23, 2006, 07:45:45 PM
I'm having a lazy day.
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Post by: MBarnum on April 23, 2006, 07:49:45 PM
I had a productive day.....but now shall have a lazy evening!

I am pooped and so is Dog Bosco.
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Post by: MBarnum on April 23, 2006, 07:51:03 PM
DR DakotaCelt, I actually really like our SuperWalmart...they have nifty items and good prices...oh, and those $1 DVDs! I bought two today which made the trip worthwhile.
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Post by: Matt H. on April 23, 2006, 08:14:17 PM
I have a 24 year old microwave, so I bake a potato for 12 minutes. The size of the potato certainly matters but so does the "wattage" of the microwaves. They're more powerful now than mine is.
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Post by: Matt H. on April 23, 2006, 08:19:16 PM
Finished PRIDE AND PREJUDICE and also watched the featurette on the making of the miniseries. It only hits the high spots, and only a very three of the actors are interviewed at all, but I'm glad it's in the package.

I think what makes the story and this telling of it so special is that we're appalled by Mr. D'Arcy just as Elizabeth is at the beginning, and as the story unfolds, we fall in love with him as she does, so that by the time she sits at the piano at his estate and sings while he looks at her with love and tenderness in his eyes, we know he's the one.

Amazing that Colin Firth turned down the part when it was first offered. He had to be convinced he was right for it.
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Post by: DakotaCelt on April 23, 2006, 08:19:48 PM
Funny the difference of 250 miles: It is 63 here in Fargo and it is snowing in Minot!
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Post by: Matt H. on April 23, 2006, 08:20:01 PM
I very much enjoyed COLD CASE tonight, a sad story of mother and child abuse and abandonment.
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Post by: DakotaCelt on April 23, 2006, 08:21:16 PM
DR DakotaCelt, I actually really like our SuperWalmart...they have nifty items and good prices...oh, and those $1 DVDs! I bought two today which made the trip worthwhile.

That is nice but due to an incident I experienced I refuse to do business with a firm that treats those with disabilities poorly.
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Post by: Matt H. on April 23, 2006, 08:21:23 PM
LAW & ORDER: CI had a voodoo case tonight, the second or third time this season one of the shows which I watch has used that religion as a jumping off point for a story.

This plot was pretty intricate and engrossing.
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Post by: Matt H. on April 23, 2006, 08:22:56 PM
And CROSSING JORDAN had some monumental events happening with several characters in addition to a couple of crime dramas playing themselves out. These are definitely setting up some fascinating cliffhangers for the season finale in a few weeks.
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Post by: Matt H. on April 23, 2006, 08:23:28 PM
And I'll have tonight's THE SOPRANOS to watch at some point tomorrow.
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Post by: Rodzinski on April 23, 2006, 08:33:01 PM
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Post by: Matt H. on April 23, 2006, 09:14:58 PM
Got less than 7 hours of sleep last night, so I'm off to bed now.

Good night, all!
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Post by: MBarnum on April 23, 2006, 09:31:15 PM
...

Hey, I didn't know they still made that!! Dog Bosco will be mighty pleased!
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Post by: TCB on April 23, 2006, 09:49:27 PM
Well, I had better get to bed.  I see the second surgeon in the morning (for more bad news).
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Post by: DakotaCelt on April 23, 2006, 09:54:17 PM
Well, I had better get to bed.  I see the second surgeon in the morning (for more bad news).

I send good news vibes your way TCB!
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on April 23, 2006, 10:00:47 PM
Hello, fellow Dear Readers. We are home from our whirlwind birthday trip. I will let DR Sandra post about her adventures. They are not your typical Vegas tourist adventures, of course.
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on April 23, 2006, 10:01:20 PM
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Vibes to TCB for good news tomorrow!
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Post by: PennyO on April 23, 2006, 10:18:25 PM
A four and a half hour bridal shower... that's 4 1/2 hours. Forty women - oy the din! Needless to say, I didn't do anything else today - got back to the loft - and silence... read quietly... now I'm gonna go to bed. niteynite.
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Post by: PennyO on April 23, 2006, 10:19:01 PM
Good vibes for tomorrow TCB!
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Post by: FJL on April 23, 2006, 10:26:09 PM
Vibes to TCB!!!!
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Post by: FJL on April 23, 2006, 10:30:47 PM
I'm trying to plan a visit to San Diego/La Jolla in a few weeks, and was wondering if anyone has ever stayed in any of the Marriott Residence Inns, not necessarily the one in La Jolla but any of that chain.  (It's about $50 more a night than the nearby Del-Mar Inn, but I'm wondering if it's worth it.)  
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Post by: FJL on April 23, 2006, 10:34:46 PM
Have I already mentioned the time I was at a table right next to the great actor Philip Bosco's table at the Westway Diner, and (I swear) the waiter brought him a glass of milk with chocolate syrup in it.  The temptation to ask whether it was Bosco chocolate syrup was strong, but I resisted.
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Post by: DakotaCelt on April 23, 2006, 10:44:01 PM
Hello, fellow Dear Readers. We are home from our whirlwind birthday trip. I will let DR Sandra post about her adventures. They are not your typical Vegas tourist adventures, of course.

DR Laura, I am glad you safely returned and you had a fun time. I look forward to reading Sandra's adventures.
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on April 23, 2006, 11:08:46 PM
Has anyone seen Unter Solen?

I have never seen Unter Solen.
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Post by: George on April 23, 2006, 11:20:17 PM
They just reported on the local news that the average price of gas here in Olympia is $2.90!  They say that if you go to www.gasbuddy.com, you might be able to find cheaper gas in your very own neighborhood!
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Post by: DakotaCelt on April 23, 2006, 11:23:04 PM
I have never seen Unter Solen.

It is a movie from Norway. The English titile is "Under the Sun". It is rather interesting.
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Post by: DakotaCelt on April 23, 2006, 11:23:43 PM
They just reported on the local news that the average price of gas here in Olympia is $2.90!  They say that if you go to www.gasbuddy.com, you might be able to find cheaper gas in your very own neighborhood!

 We are sitting at 2.79 here
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Post by: Tomovoz on April 23, 2006, 11:27:08 PM
I seem to have missed a few birthdays and the opportunity to send well wishes.  May all and the sundried who have had birthdays and need healing and good luck vibes be in receipt of the best wishes that OZland can offer.

I have been busy being host to OzDerek's sister Maureen who still has many roads to cross.
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Post by: George on April 23, 2006, 11:29:02 PM
We are sitting at 2.79 here

When I bought gas about a week and a half ago, it was about $2.50! :o What an increase! :P
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Post by: George on April 23, 2006, 11:30:58 PM
Page Eight Vibage Dance:

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~~~Best Vibes to TCB!!~~~
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Post by: DakotaCelt on April 23, 2006, 11:42:01 PM
It has increased nearly 30 cents in the last three weeks.